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MusicIsMyLife
07-18-2008, 02:33 AM
After a disappointing session last Friday with 2x 4850 we (Hoschi and me from BenchBrothers) had another try last evening. This time we changed nearly the whole setup: motherboard, cpu, psu and graphic cards. We took 2x 4870 from PowerColor. The cards were watercooled (only gpu) and vgpu-modded. Unfortunately they didnīt switch voltage into 3d-mode and so we had to deal with that.

Our setup:

qx9650 @ 1.82 volt ultramarine blau cascade built by piotres (-100 degrees) ASUS Maximus Extreme (unmodded) 2x 1024 mb Cellshock pc14400 es (thanks to saaya :up:) 2x hd 4870 by PowerColor (watercooled gpu, 1.28x volt) OCZ EliteXStream 1000

OCZ sent us a new psu for our benching-rig which had the first use yesterday. Thank you guys for sending this psu – it did a very good job. :up:

By the way: Every picture and screenshot can be clicked to open a larger version. :)

Preparing the motherboard:

http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/01_s.jpg (http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/01_l.jpg)

Setup-pic:

http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/02_s.jpg (http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/02_l.jpg)

During our initial testings with watercooled cpu we got 25.7k 3d06 with just 4.4 ghz. Raising clockspeed by another 1 ghz+ we should get a respectable performance boost, shouldnīt we? And yes, we got it:

3DMark06

Benching without ln2 is kinda boring…. ;)

http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/03_s.jpg (http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/03_l.jpg)

And our final score:

http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/31220_s.jpg (http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/31220_l.JPG)

compare-url (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=7499550)

After our initial testings during this week we wanted to reach 30k. But that barrier we smashed with our first run at safe 5.4 ghz (30.3k). After raising clockspeed to 5.6 ghz (keep in mind: 1.82 volts and only cascade-cooled!!) we got another ~900 points. This should be one of the fastest 2-gpu-scores on the orb.

Cheers (Hoschi on the right side and guess what - me on the left side:D ):

http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/04_s.jpg (http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/04_l.JPG)

And guess what: This cpu isnīt maxed out yet. Because we could benchmark all other benchmarks at much higher clocks:

3DMark05

http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/38400_s.jpg (http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/38400_l.JPG)

compare-url (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=4379802)

2k5 at 5.7 ghz isnīt to shabby. :) And what about 2k3 at this clock? :D

3DMark03

http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/112241_s.jpg (http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/112241_l.JPG)

compare-url (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=5890152)

112k with 2 watercooled gpus – not too bad. Peak in gt1 was 6,910 fps. ;)

3DMark01

http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/106209_s.jpg (http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/106209_l.JPG)

2k1 was a "must have". Lod +3 and no special benching order gave us this score. After another run of car low we got 107,280 points. Unfortunately our rig crashed after this run so that we couldnīt capture a screenshot. But here is the orb-link:

compare-url (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9397106)

And what do you say about am3 at 5.85 ghz?

Aquamark

http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/337634_s.jpg (http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/337634_l.JPG)

Performance is poor at this clock. Something eats up performance and we donīt know what it is. In our opinion the score should be 5k to 10k higher at this speed. But today we donīt care about – we are happy that we could complete that benchmark at 5.85 ghz with 1.82 volt. :D :D :D

Thatīs all for now. Maybe we can run singlecard-benchmarks today. And if we have enough time we will put the cards under mach2-units. With this cooling and about 5.650 mhz cpu-clock we should be able to break into the 32k-zone. :)

Thanks for reading. :)

fubarswe
07-18-2008, 02:43 AM
Congrats to very nice scores.., and a sweeeeet chip.., looks really nice and U both deserve the beer.., 2 beers.. :-)

[XC] gomeler
07-18-2008, 02:56 AM
Impressive! Those GPUs are just crying out for a little more voltage, 950MHz should be easily do-able on water ;)

George_o/c
07-18-2008, 03:52 AM
Congratulations guys, absolutely amazing scores ! :up: Especially 06 and 05 are sick ! :eek:
What a great cpu you have :) Have you tried raising the Vcore more ?
CPU @ cascade, 4870CF @ Mach2, and 7-6-5-15 (although the last one, won't improve the score as much as the first 2 :p:) and you will easily get 32k :up:

Keep up the good work guys ! :)

Nosfer@tu
07-18-2008, 04:38 AM
GREAT work :D

And nice with the story

thebanik
07-18-2008, 04:45 AM
great cpu u got, amazing clocks for such measly volts, :), and impressive scores too, congrats....

Szlobi
07-18-2008, 07:34 AM
Very Nice Work! Grats clocks and result.:)

systemviper
07-18-2008, 07:41 AM
Love the benches, that was a great run, good job keepin on it!

Gautam
07-18-2008, 07:45 AM
These cards are extremely powerful. O.o Very nice job guys. :clap:

andre X_X
07-18-2008, 01:21 PM
those are very nice results guys :up:
cant wait to see how 4870X2 on CFX :D

K404
07-18-2008, 01:26 PM
Nicely done guys!! :D

Beers were well-earned ;)

I bet you know how crazy the scores would be if the cards were frozen too ;)

nachthymnen
07-18-2008, 01:56 PM
Congratz guys!!
Really nice setup and results!:clap::up:

Oliver
07-18-2008, 02:05 PM
Good work looks good...

These cards will really shine with cold and more juice, with a 5.8g+ quad...

Keep pushing it...

HousERaT
07-18-2008, 02:08 PM
I like what I'm seeing here. My vote for more voltage to the GPUs also. :up:

Teedeck
07-18-2008, 07:21 PM
I feel small

MusicIsMyLife
07-19-2008, 01:59 AM
Congrats to very nice scores.., and a sweeeeet chip..,

Thank you. :)


looks really nice and U both deserve the beer.., 2 beers.. :-)

:D


gomeler;3148101']Impressive! Those GPUs are just crying out for a little more voltage, 950MHz should be easily do-able on water ;)

Yes, this setup cries for ln2 on cpu and mach 2 on gpus - and for more voltage. :D

For the moment itīs a matter of time. But maybe we can have a killer-setup in a few days. ;)


Congratulations guys, absolutely amazing scores ! :up: Especially 06 and 05 are sick ! :eek:

Thank you. And yes, 05 and 06 are really nice. :yepp:




What a great cpu you have :) Have you tried raising the Vcore more ?


When we tried higher vcore the last time on our Maximus we couldnīt get better results. 1.82 volt seems to be either the sweetspot of our cascade or of our Maximus. Maybe we need to mod this board.... :shrug:




great cpu u got, amazing clocks for such measly volts, :), and impressive scores too, congrats....

Yes, I love this cpu. Funny thing is that this is our replacement-cpu. :D The first one we tried did also 5.6 ghz under cascade and 1.82 volt through 3d06. This chip had no problems booting at -100 degrees while the one we used for these 4870-benchies did have a problem once. So we made our decision to put this golden chip in a daily rig and keep it as replacement.

In the last few weeks we got problems with our setup and so we tried this replacement-chip. And as you can see it was the right decision to keep it. :yepp:




These cards are extremely powerful. O.o Very nice job guys. :clap:

Thanks Gautam. Itīs a pleasure to read these words from you. :yepp:




Love the benches, that was a great run, good job keepin on it!

Thank you. And yes, we will continue....




Very Nice Work! Grats clocks and result.:)


GREAT work :D

And nice with the story

Thank you. :)




those are very nice results guys :up:
cant wait to see how 4870X2 on CFX :D

I think with our cpu 2x 4870X2 would fly. :eek:




Nicely done guys!! :D

Beers were well-earned ;)

I bet you know how crazy the scores would be if the cards were frozen too ;)

Thank you.
Like I said: Maybe we can do this in a few days. :)




Congratz guys!!
Really nice setup and results!:clap::up:

Results arenīt that high like yours (congrats for your cfx-benchies :yepp:) but we work on that. :D




Good work looks good...

These cards will really shine with cold and more juice, with a 5.8g+ quad...

Keep pushing it...

I hope that the cards work well under cold. We will see.




I like what I'm seeing here. My vote for more voltage to the GPUs also. :up:

OK, we will do it next time. :)




I feel small

No need to feel small. I think itīs 90 % luck that we found this cpu.



Yesterday I had a little time and I did some singlecard-benchmarks with nearly the same cpu-clocks. And here they are:

Als screens can be clicked to open a larger version.

3DMark01

http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/100191_s.jpg (http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/100191_l.JPG)

compare-url (http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?compareResultId=9397245&compareResultType=6)

LOD +3, high priority and nothing else - thatīs it.

3DMark03

http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/63087_s.jpg (http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/63087_l.JPG)

compare-url (http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?compareResultId=5890528&compareResultType=10)

For 2k3 the result is ok but we need more gfx-power.

3DMark05

http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/32358_s.jpg (http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/32358_l.JPG)

compare-url (http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?compareResultId=4380725&compareResultType=12)

32k with watercooled single-gpu is ok too.

3DMark06

http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/21743_s.jpg (http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/21743_l.JPG)

compare-url (http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?compareResultId=7504838&compareResultType=14)

21.7k singlecard isnīt too shabby. :D

Aquamark

http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/319800_s.jpg (http://www.benchbrothers.de/bilder/scores/2008/4870/319800_l.JPG)

Unfortunately I couldnīt break into the 320kīs but we will work on that.

G H Z
07-19-2008, 03:37 AM
Nice job dudes :toast:


These cards are extremely powerful. O.o Very nice job guys. :clap:

Yes they are, it's fun to bench again :D

Brandybuck
07-21-2008, 01:42 AM
Great cpu:eek: Congratz :up:

saaya
07-21-2008, 02:10 AM
congrats! :toast:
nice cpu! nice 2k1! nice Aq3! :toast:
so did you use both cards under mach2 for this?
what gpu temps did you get with the cards under load?

you guys def need to dig out that "Wandfluter" again for the nice light effects, with the light like this it looks quite crappy :P
with the light from an angle elike the last time the walls looked really cool and stylish ^^

MusicIsMyLife
07-21-2008, 03:04 AM
Nice job dudes :toast:



Great cpu:eek: Congratz :up:


congrats! :toast:
nice cpu! nice 2k1! nice Aq3! :toast:

Thank you very much. :toast:




so did you use both cards under mach2 for this?
what gpu temps did you get with the cards under load?

Both cards had watercooling on the gpu. Mach 2-units werenīt used.




you guys def need to dig out that "Wandfluter" again for the nice light effects, with the light like this it looks quite crappy :P
with the light from an angle elike the last time the walls looked really cool and stylish ^^

Yes, youīre right. Last time it looked a bit better. Letīs see what we can do the next time. :D

saaya
07-21-2008, 08:20 PM
so this was with water only? nice!!!
so when are you going for the mach2 units? :D
4870s are burning up around 170W at stock already iirc... so those mach2 units will be quite busy removing all the heat, especially when oced!
but im curious how well the rv770 responds to low temps, maybe its mostly heat limited and doesnt need that much extra vgpu... but im affraid it wants volts... lots of volts :D

and then the gt units are too weak and water might get you better results at high vgpu than mach2 units LOL :D

G H Z
07-21-2008, 08:33 PM
so this was with water only? nice!!!

Check thread title saaya :D :toast:

3BABY
07-26-2008, 12:42 PM
Very nice results guys!!

have you managed to get 900+ GPU Mhz at that Vgpu? also did you try 1200Mhz mem speed? cant wait to see some vmoded 4870's i think their begging for it !! :D

MusicIsMyLife
07-29-2008, 02:56 AM
Sorry for the delay guys. Iīve been busy for a few days. :)




so this was with water only? nice!!!

Yes, water only.




4870s are burning up around 170W at stock already iirc... so those mach2 units will be quite busy removing all the heat, especially when oced!
but im curious how well the rv770 responds to low temps, maybe its mostly heat limited and doesnt need that much extra vgpu... but im affraid it wants volts... lots of volts :D

and then the gt units are too weak and water might get you better results at high vgpu than mach2 units LOL :D

Our mach2-units had their first use with our 2900xtīs. With 1.40 vgpu we had ~0 degrees under load with these cards.

I donīt know if the 4870s produce more heat or not. But I think that shouldnīt be a major problem.




Very nice results guys!!

have you managed to get 900+ GPU Mhz at that Vgpu? also did you try 1200Mhz mem speed? cant wait to see some vmoded 4870's i think their begging for it !! :D


so when are you going for the mach2 units? :D

We tried them under cold a few days before. Unfortunately we hadnīt luck. :down:

We flashed 950/1100 and started 3d06. In gt1 we got a nice increase in fps but during gt2 the system freezed. Since then, both cards never booted up again. :(

No condensation, no damage - something went wrong but we currently donīt know what. :shrug:



Next step is to unsolder vgpu-mod, put them under stock cooler and try to boot up - letīs see what happens. :)

drizzt5
07-29-2008, 09:42 AM
Nice scores!! I love these new cards :o

Stumbo
07-30-2008, 01:11 PM
Sweet dungeon lol.

MusicIsMyLife
08-05-2008, 01:24 PM
Good news: both cards are alive again. :)

We plugged them into BlackOPS and both cards stayed at 2b - invoke vga BIOS. We put them as second vga in a pc, re-flashed vga bios and they were up again.

They crashed during gt2 in 2k6 and had a corrupted bios. We donīt know why but we can use them again. :D

:toast:

vanovich
08-05-2008, 01:37 PM
some nice results there .what software did you use to get lod to work in 01 ? we benched a while back ,and couldnt get it to work .

DFI pit bull
08-05-2008, 04:30 PM
Great scores, also I think 21.7k for 06 single gpu is great. Congrats guy's.

MusicIsMyLife
08-05-2008, 10:59 PM
some nice results there .what software did you use to get lod to work in 01 ? we benched a while back ,and couldnt get it to work .

Thanks. :)

Lod is set with atitool, iirc it is 27 beta 4. That worked in cf too.




Great scores, also I think 21.7k for 06 single gpu is great. Congrats guy's.

Thank you very much. :yepp:

And yes, 21.7k single gpu isnīt to shabby. :D But we will try to improve this one - like always. :yepp: