G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI Sample testing

[guess2098]

G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI

Just received this sample today

http://www.iax-tech.com/ram/12004gbpi/01.jpg http://www.iax-tech.com/ram/12004gbpi/02.jpg


Testing Hardware Setup

CPU: Intel QX9650 ~ 4G
Motherboard: Asus X48 Rampage Formula
Memory: G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI
Video Card: Diamond HD4870 850/1150 REVIEW (http://www.iax-tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13)
Power: TT 1200W
Hard Drive: G.SKILL SATA2 32GB SSD



Testing Software Setup

Memtest 100%
3Dmark06
Everest memory read and write bandwidth benchmark
Super Pi 32M x 1


-----DEFAULT TESTING-----
memory set to 2.1v, DDR2 1200 5-5-5-15. CPU FSB 400 x 10 with strap 266mhz

http://www.iax-tech.com/ram/12004gbpi/9600cl5_01.PNG

http://www.iax-tech.com/ram/12004gbpi/9600cl5_02.PNG


-----CL4 TESTING-----
memory set to 2.2v, DDR2 1002 4-4-3-15. CPU FSB 420 x 9, strap 266mhz, FSB 1.6v, NB 1.6v
32M PASSED

http://www.iax-tech.com/ram/12004gbpi/9600cl5_10.PNG

PRIME95 QUICK TEST, forget to change QX9650 back to low clock. 4.2G 1.52v prime :eek: stock heatsink

http://www.iax-tech.com/ram/12004gbpi/9600cl5_11.PNG



MAX CL4-4-3-15
memory set to 2.2v, DDR2 1052 4-4-3-15. CPU FSB 420 x 9, strap 266mhz, FSB 1.6v, NB 1.6v

http://www.iax-tech.com/ram/12004gbpi/9600cl5_12.PNG


-----CL5 TESTING-----
memory set to 2.3v, DDR2 1280 5-5-5-15. CPU FSB 400 x 10, strap 333mhz

http://www.iax-tech.com/ram/12004gbpi/9600cl5_03.PNG


MAX CL5-5-5-15 on 1333
memory set to 2.36v, DDR2 1333 5-5-5-15. CPU FSB 416 x 10, strap 333mhz

http://www.iax-tech.com/ram/12004gbpi/9600cl5_04.PNG


BANDWIDTH on DDR2 1340 CL5
memory set to 2.36v, DDR2 1340 5-5-5-15. CPU FSB 418 x 10.5, strap 333mhz

http://www.iax-tech.com/ram/12004gbpi/9600cl5_05.PNG


-----HIGH FSB TEST WITH QX9650-----
memory set to 2.2v, DDR2 1227 5-5-5-15. CPU FSB 460 x 9, strap 266mhz, FSB 1.6v, NB 1.6v

http://www.iax-tech.com/ram/12004gbpi/9600cl5_07.PNG


FSB 480 WITH QX9650
memory set to 2.2v, DDR2 1280 5-5-5-15. CPU FSB 480 x 9, strap 333mhz, FSB 1.6v, NB 1.6v

http://www.iax-tech.com/ram/12004gbpi/9600cl5_08.PNG


FSB480 WITH QX9650 USING 266 DIVIDER
memory set to 2.2v, DDR2 1227 5-5-5-15. CPU FSB 480 x 9, strap 333mhz, FSB 1.6v, NB 1.6v

http://www.iax-tech.com/ram/12004gbpi/9600cl5_09.PNG



-----3DMARK06 FUN TESTING-----
memory set to 2.32v, DDR2 1216 5-5-5-15. CPU FSB 405 x 11, strap 266mhz

http://www.iax-tech.com/ram/12004gbpi/9600cl5_06.PNG

[Leeghoofd]

Finally the sticks I've been waiting for... looking good man, any word on retail price ?

[Omastar]

Wow, 1333 on a 4GB kit? Good stuff.

[CarpeDiem]

Nice review! Any ideas on how much these sticks will cost? :D

[-n7-]

:clap:

Is is really only HCI stable to its rated speed?

Coolaler showed it running DDR2-1200 HCI stable also here. (http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=3499) He showed DDR2-1500 as well, but i assume not stable at all.

Regardless, this is some truely wondrously binned PSC :)

[zsamz_]

had a feelin they be binnin them to 1200+ soon
lookin good little review
but how stable is it

[guess2098]

:clap:

Is is really only HCI stable to its rated speed?

Coolaler showed it running DDR2-1200 HCI stable also here. (http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=3499) He showed DDR2-1500 as well, but i assume not stable at all.

Regardless, this is some truely wondrously binned PSC :)
coolaler's DDR2 1500 is not 1500, CPUz read it wrong, he stated on his thread.
i didn't really do memtest other than 1200 because under 1280, i know it is not stable. don't even bother to run HCI :P

[-n7-]

coolaler's DDR2 1500 is not 1500, CPUz read it wrong, he stated on his thread.
i didn't really do memtest other than 1200 because under 1280, i know it is not stable. don't even bother to run HCI :P

I must be blind...i can't see anywhere in that thread he states it's wrong.

[Cooper]

I must be blind...i can't see anywhere in that thread he states it's wrong.


i think guess is reffering to original thread on coolaler's forum

[Zucker2k]

What about some high fsb testing?

[mad_skills]

What chips are on this PI series? Nice results btw.:up:

[msimax]

excellent review:up: when are these going to be available and for how much?

[EnJoY]

Nice stuff Denny. ;)

[-n7-]

i think guess is reffering to original thread on coolaler's forum
WTF...he posted a ton of results on OCX without a single mention that the screenies were a lie. :down:
And Everest is reading the wrong numbers too?


What chips are on this PI series? Nice results btw.:up:

Powerchips.

[MrHydes]

this mems are amazing...

good job guess2098, 668MHz - 10K read bandwidth - latency 50.8ns :eek:

[sno.lcn]

Great stuff Denny, very impressive.

[Gogeta]

Guawowo :eek:

Here's to hoping the price is right!

[guess2098]

i am testing high FSB right now. QX9650 has hard time to run at 480 tho


also testing 1000 4-4-3-15 now

[guess2098]

UPDATE CL4, high FSB test, please see post #1

[SeLecT]

These chips are really nice!

Thanks for testing!

[crash2k]

when are these going to be officially on sale? i'm looking on many shops on europe and usa but can't find them yet, only 8800-4gbPI

nice stuff anyway :D

[guess2098]

-----HIGH FSB TEST WITH E8400-----
memory set to 2.3v DDR2 1327 5-5-5-15, FSB 553mhz 1.6v, NB 1.6v
Everest Read ~11k, write ~12k

http://www.iax-tech.com/ram/12004gbpi/9600cl5_13.PNG

[Sepander]

Omg, that kit is insane! I'm eager to buy one.:yepp:

[Dr.Leary]

Powerchips.

Are you really sure about that? Seems to be something else imo:confused:

[Rolle2k]

guess2098: heard anything about retail price at launch? and avaliblity, when?

[-n7-]

Are you really sure about that? Seems to be something else imo:confused:

And just what else clocks as well as PSC in the 2 GB DIMM realm?


Coolaler showed it running DDR2-1200 HCI stable also here. (http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/showthread.php?t=3499)

Check the link; he mentions it's PSC there.

[jVIDIA]

Jesus .....

http://www.coolaler.com.tw/coolalercbb/GSKILL_DDR2_1500/DDR2_1516.gif

:shocked:

I think my 8800 PI are going to be replaced :D

[Dr.Leary]

And just what else clocks as well as PSC in the 2 GB DIMM realm?



Check the link; he mentions it's PSC there.

Ok! It seems to be PSC, but it must be some new type of IC by PSC. No other kit has been able to hit DDR2 1200 stable before, and these hit way higher. Just confused how thats possible:confused:

[truehighroller]

I want to know the price of them and when and where they will be becuause I want them now...

[GSKILL TECH]

AGAIN, coolaler's result is CPUZ bug. the actual memory speed is ~DDR2 1350.

[truehighroller]

AGAIN, coolaler's result is CPUZ bug. the actual memory speed is ~DDR2 1350.


LMAO ,,, That's funny. When and where will they be? Please sir?

[truehighroller]

Why don't you just say I can't say that would be more professional.

[Leeghoofd]

Don't act like a 5 year old that can't wait to get his new present...do you think someone will answer to that post ? Patience is a virtue... these posts are teasers, to give you an idea of what they can do... I just hope they deliver more than the 8800kit coz reviews are pretty mixed there

[okorn]

Nice 4Gb :)

Gskill is really doing great stuff :) like with the 4GBPQ.

Are these chips promos?

[-n7-]

Nice 4Gb :)

Are these chips promos?

Reading ftw.

[okorn]

Reading ftw.

Ups! I didn't read your post!

"Powerchips"

[freaksavior]

When are these going to be released? i need to ram to replace my transcend axe 1200mhz ram...it died.

[GSKILL TECH]

got some info today, this model of memory will be availabe next week worldwide. newegg should be the 1st store receive it.

[demonkevy666]

got some info today, this model of memory will be availabe next week worldwide. newegg should be the 1st store receive it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231194

they where a little higher a few days ago.

they're cheaper then my GEIL evo one pair & a bit better... :/ (screwed again >_<)

[jVIDIA]

Those aren't the 9600 !! ;)

[roedzzz]

Its really hotzzz stick..
I'll be waiting for trying this...

[truehighroller]

got some info today, this model of memory will be availabe next week worldwide. newegg should be the 1st store receive it.


Thank you sir.

[OCFX]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231194

they where a little higher a few days ago.

they're cheaper then my GEIL evo one pair & a bit better... :/ (screwed again >_<)

It´s 8800...not 9600

[zsamz_]

i just saw it on ncix i'm guessin they gonna get it soon
304$ did someone drink 1 too many:rofl:

[Eldonko]

Ouch, you can pay 1/3 that and get mem that clocks within 10-15Mhz. Has to be MAX $200, after all it is DDR2..

i just saw it on ncix i'm guessin they gonna get it soon
304$ did someone drink 1 too many:rofl:

[zsamz_]

Ouch, you can pay 1/3 that and get mem that clocks within 10-15Mhz. Has to be MAX $200, after all it is DDR2..

i'd rather buy 2 sets of mushkin 8500@100$ n try to get lucky :rofl:

[truehighroller]

Yah it's at NICX and no I'm not paying that much for a couple extra Mhz. This is DDR2 people, not DDR3. These darn cpu parts places always trying to make a quick buck. I hate that more then any thing.

[RealTelstar]

God how could i have missed this thread???

My kit is on order :D

[RealTelstar]

Ordered... and arrived today!

http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/3/8/8/f_ram1m_f695c08.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/8/f_ram1m_f695c08.jpg&srv=img29)

http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/3/8/8/f_ram2m_35a614f.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/8/f_ram2m_35a614f.jpg&srv=img34)

http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/3/8/8/f_ram3m_adf23bd.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/3/8/8/f_ram3m_adf23bd.jpg&srv=img37)

[Alex-Ro]

And the results ?

[WaterFlex]

Hmm...It seems that RAMs are better than my Red Devil...

[WaterFlex]

-----HIGH FSB TEST WITH E8400-----
memory set to 2.3v DDR2 1327 5-5-5-15, FSB 553mhz 1.6v, NB 1.6v
Everest Read ~11k, write ~12k

http://www.iax-tech.com/ram/12004gbpi/9600cl5_13.PNG

Nice result!!! Very good!!! Is it stable???

[RealTelstar]

And the results ?

after my holidays :D

[MrHydes]

could you set CL4 on default speed 600MHz test please

and run some PI 1M and test with Prime more than 1 hour...

because with my Transcend PC9600 i've never been able to put it stable

at 4-4-4-12 with default speed, no matter what voltage!

cheers

[Oliver]

as said these kits are truly amazing, but thats the style with handpicked PSC ICs...

[ahmad]

I saw 2.36v in one of the tests.. there is no way the ram would be able to survive that kind of voltage for extended periods of time. At 2.28v the chips feel like they want to jump out... that said they do respond to voltage.

[RealTelstar]

could you set CL4 on default speed 600MHz test please

and run some PI 1M and test with Prime more than 1 hour...

because with my Transcend PC9600 i've never been able to put it stable

at 4-4-4-12 with default speed, no matter what voltage!

cheers

I think that's impossible mate. The OP got 1000mhz max at cas4. I'll surely do some tests, aiming for 1100, but no higher than 2.3v sorry.

[roedzzz]

Oughhhh...
Finally coming yesterday this stick..
Its really hotzzz 4GB memori..
N this is my highest result..

PI 1M 1344mhz 5-5-5-15 2.35v..

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/3733/1bbk0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


My suicide clock 1360mhz C5 5-5-5-15 2.35v..

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2605/aaawv2.png (http://imageshack.us)

[zsamz_]

nice stix but price is just ridiculous 300$ in canada

[an0nym0us]

Wow Denny, those look to be great sticks. This is An from Houston-Imports.com.

[m4gg0t]

OMFG!!!! I looking at these pair. I've been haveing very bad luck with my rams. my DOMINATORS PC-8500C5DF wont clock higher then 1080MHz and my OCZ Reaper HPC seem to be in the same boat. So i was thinking about exchanging my OCZ for one of these and changing my DOMINATORS to another set. I like the DOMINATORS.

[wong_ndeso]

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=406380 my last result and still try to 700mhz.. wait for my depth review from this stick...

[roedzzz]

OMFD..
690mhz..:up: :up: :up:
Its a hotzzz shoot from Indonesia..

[CyberDruid]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231201&Tpk=G.Skill%20F2_9600CL5D_4GBPI

Out of stock :eh:

Last Month I paid $130 for a 1GB kit of Team Xtreme DDR2 1333 that is giving me headaches booting. $300 for 4GB of my favorite Brand seems do-able. My E3110 likes fast RAM.

[zsamz_]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231201&Tpk=G.Skill%20F2_9600CL5D_4GBPI

Out of stock :eh:

Last Month I paid $130 for a 1GB kit of Team Xtreme DDR2 1333 that is giving me headaches booting. $300 for 4GB of my favorite Brand seems do-able. My E3110 likes fast RAM.

damn i paid 8$ for a 1 gig set of d9gkx did 1300+
i'll wait till these hit sub 200$
hope you can return em cause looks like team screwin peeps on rma they ignorin lots of people

[wong_ndeso]

see the review in here : http://www.ur-hardware.com/Memory/G.Skill-4GB-PI.html

[deadlock7]

I'll wait to get them from Europe.These sticks is what i've been waiting for..

[Dr.Leary]

I'll wait to get them from Europe.These sticks is what i've been waiting for..

You can: http://www.memoryc.com/products/description/4GB_G_Skill_DDR2_PC2_9600_1200MHz_TT-PI-Series-5_5_5_15-Dual_Channel_kit_w-PI_Heatsinks/index.html

[RealTelstar]

You can: http://www.memoryc.com/products/description/4GB_G_Skill_DDR2_PC2_9600_1200MHz_TT-PI-Series-5_5_5_15-Dual_Channel_kit_w-PI_Heatsinks/index.html

Praise for memoryc. fast and reliable service

[Ronbo56]

Nice result!!! Very good!!! Is it stable???

Just received mine today from newegg.com.........Intial results are ok. These run similar to my patriot 8500's (4GB green heatsinks) but now where near 1200 mhz. I have them running at 5-4-4-15 2T 2.1 volts NB 1.4 on a MSI P7N Plat.:D

[Ronbo56]

Just received mine today from newegg.com.........Intial results are ok. These run similar to my patriot 8500's (4GB green heatsinks) but now where near 1200 mhz. I have them running at 5-4-4-15 2T 2.1 volts NB 1.4 on a MSI P7N Plat.:D

CPU-Z

[Ronbo56]

Just received mine today from newegg.com.........Intial results are ok. These run similar to my patriot 8500's (4GB green heatsinks) but now where near 1200 mhz. I have them running at 5-4-4-15 2T 2.1 volts NB 1.4 on a MSI P7N Plat.:D

With High FSB

[Ronbo56]

With High FSB

I'm able to do cas 3 but haven't gone beyond 800mhz but its stabel at 1T.

[Ronbo56]

I'm able to do cas 3 but haven't gone beyond 800mhz but its stabel at 1T.

CPU-Zhttp://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=409068

[andressergio]

where can I find this amazing memos ??

out of stock everywhere :eek:

[Ronbo56]

where can I find this amazing memos ??

out of stock everywhere :eek:

MemoryC.com has one set left. Newegg.com expects a shipment around 9/8/2008 but it could arrive at anytime.:)

[andressergio]

MemoryC.com has one set left. Newegg.com expects a shipment around 9/8/2008 but it could arrive at anytime.:)

thanks mate :up:

[GSKILL TECH]

newegg should have 3 pairs today

[andressergio]

newegg should have 3 pairs today

Thank you !

[Ronbo56]

Thank you !

As of 9-20-2008 Newegg dosen't even show them on their site. I had to send mine back they were defective andvery unstable......never went above 2.1 volts. system would crash and freeze at default settings???????????:(:confused::mad:

[andressergio]

As of 9-20-2008 Newegg dosen't even show them on their site. I had to send mine back they were defective andvery unstable......never went above 2.1 volts. system would crash and freeze at default settings???????????:(:confused::mad:

Sorry to hear that mate

Think I'll spent my money on the Q9650 and stick with my 2x2 Mushkins are doing great at 1141

Cheers
Sergio

[MrHydes]

newegg should have 3 pairs today

when are PI PC9600 4GB official release?

[zsamz_]

i ordered a set :D i should have her next week
hope they good:ROTF:

[GSKILL TECH]

on egg now
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231201&Tpk=20-231-201

[Jor3lBR]

on egg now
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231201&Tpk=20-231-201

WoW for $300 they ust be very good. Any reviews yet?

[Jor3lBR]

i ordered a set :D i should have her next week
hope they good:ROTF:

Zam, tell me how they clock so far I haven't seen anything better then our Ballistix D9...

[GSKILL TECH]

Zam, tell me how they clock so far I haven't seen anything better then our Ballistix D9...
we love the overclocking result of Micron D9, but we also hates the rma % of micron :P

[zsamz_]

i got em :D

i dont have too much time to test but did some high fsb runs
i gotta say this kit is sweet
this is @2.09v i gotta say its a monster
i'm sure it will go higher @ low fsb
but i dont do no low fsb testing:ROTF:
only had 1 hour to test so better reults later

[Jor3lBR]

Holy cr4p zam! Those worth the buck!

[zsamz_]

we love the overclocking result of Micron D9, but we also hates the rma % of micron :P

:yepp:
i likin these sticks so far
hope i dont ever gotta rma these

[zsamz_]

this is my max 2.09v
anything more gonna need more juice

[CryptiK]

That is absolutely incredible speed considering the voltage. That ram is amazingly good by the looks of it. Really is a pity that it is so expensive for DDR2.

[zsamz_]

That is absolutely incredible speed considering the voltage. That ram is amazingly good by the looks of it. Really is a pity that it is so expensive for DDR2.

yes its really too expensive
mine cost me 250$ n still its too expensive
but they can charge what they want supply is verry limited
i just wanted to make sure i can do 1100+ with 8 gigs
i not goin ddr3 till next year so ... lest have fun

[-n7-]

Sweet lord.

That is some deliciously well binned Powerchips.

Lucky lucky you!

[zsamz_]

Sweet lord.

That is some deliciously well binned Powerchips.

Lucky lucky you!

would you beleive it was a customer return:ROTF:
thats how i got the discount
the idiot that had bought them somehow didnt like em:rofl:

[zsamz_]

did some cas 4 testin :D did 1 full pass on memtest
i need to try on x38;)

[WaterFlex]

Nice clocks, guys;)

[zsamz_]

since i got max clock outa the way i'm lookin for max+stablity
timings 5-5-5-15-5-60 needs extra juice on nb to get stable
did 2 full passes of memtest+ 30 min of prime for now

[-n7-]

Holy...

CAS 4 @ 500 MHz on 2x2 PSC = :eek:

I really want to find out what specific PSC IC in in this kit...& then who else is using it in cheaper ones. ;)

Seems too good to be just higher binned stuff, i mean normally PSC would never get close to tCL 4 500 MHz, & tCL 5 600+ MHz is glorious.

[zsamz_]

Holy...

CAS 4 @ 500 MHz on 2x2 PSC = :eek:

I really want to find out what specific PSC IC in in this kit...& then who else is using it in cheaper ones. ;)

Seems too good to be just higher binned stuff, i mean normally PSC would never get close to tCL 4 500 MHz, & tCL 5 600+ MHz is glorious.

if spreaders come off easy i'll peak under the hood;)
i need 1.55v on nb to keep her stable for 24/7@ 1260mhz
good kits out there but i think they saving rare high binned chips to charge xtra $$$ now as you see not too many of these kits for sale
my redline do 1142 max
my cousins do 1200 1.95v n he paid 100$:rofl: i gonna go see if i can max his out he too chicken to try
payin ddr3 prices for ddr2 :rofl:

[guess2098]

Holy...

CAS 4 @ 500 MHz on 2x2 PSC = :eek:

I really want to find out what specific PSC IC in in this kit...& then who else is using it in cheaper ones. ;)

Seems too good to be just higher binned stuff, i mean normally PSC would never get close to tCL 4 500 MHz, & tCL 5 600+ MHz is glorious.
do you ever read my review?

[GazC]

I'd like to see a SPD dump of this ram, I'd like to compare it to my 8800pi kit.

[zsamz_]

I'd like to see a SPD dump of this ram, I'd like to compare it to my 8800pi kit.

this is in everest

Field Value
Memory Module Properties
Module Name G Skill F2-9600CL5-2GBPI
Serial Number None
Module Size 2 GB (2 ranks, 8 banks)
Module Type Unbuffered DIMM
Memory Type DDR2 SDRAM
Memory Speed DDR2-800 (400 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 1.8
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh

Memory Timings
@ 400 MHz 5-5-5-15 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 24-51-3-6-3-3 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)
@ 266 MHz 4-4-4-10 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 16-34-2-4-2-2 (RC-RFC-RRD-WR-WTR-RTP)

Enhanced Performance Profile
Profile Name High Performance
Optimal Performance Profile Yes
Memory Speed DDR2-1066 (533 MHz)
Voltage 2.1 V
Memory Timings 5-5-5-15 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Row Cycle Time (tRC) 48T
Command Rate (CR) 2T
Write Recovery Time (tWR) 13T

Memory Module Manufacturer
Company Name GSkill International Enterprise
Product Information http://www.gskill.com/indexen.html

[GazC]

Thanks, on the face of it they look similar. I cannot be sure because I'm using the free version of everest which doesn't let me see the SPD. I read mine using SPD tool.

[indeo]

One more complect of this wonderful RAM is delivered to Donetsk (Ukraine) to my friend highgertz
He need some technical time to register on XS. But he ask me present his results now for respected overclockers society ;)

So..
For this time maximum validation friequency in Dual Chanell is 1400MHz 5-5-5-18, Intel® X48 (DFI LanParty LP LT X48-T2R)

http://s48.radikal.ru/i119/0810/7e/a065ab97566c.png

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=425457


Maximum 24/7 friequency make up 1350 MHz
http://radikal.ru/F/i003.radikal.ru/0810/39/d84aefb826f2.jpg.html

Congradulation highgertz! We wait for further results ;)

[Don_Dan]

Nice results, high-binned PSC is really awesome.

I hope he will post more results when his account has been approved!

[zsamz_]

anything over 1300 is not stable;)

[neo mike]

I talked to the g.skill rep today on the phone and said this memory is very hard to come by and refered me to this form, I WANT THIS STUFF REALLY BAD, WHERE IN THE WORLD CAN YOU BUY THIS KIT ?????? ANY G.SKILL REPS ON HERE, I HEARD THE PRICE IS $300 IM READY TO PAY, WHERE DO WE GET THIS STUFF.

[indeo]

anything over 1300 is not stable;)
This mode (1350MHz) was tested by highgertz by MEMTEST and Intel© linpack.
No error was found - results you can see below
http://www.psp-devices.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&a...f2ef178e02bcdcc63
http://forums.overclockers.ru/viewtopic.php?p=5355538#5355538

unfortunately in russian.

[indeo]

I HEARD THE PRICE IS $300 IM READY TO PAY, WHERE DO WE GET THIS STUFF. $300 is something less..
if you really interested by this RAM. May be I can help..

[zsamz_]

This mode (1350MHz) was tested by highgertz by MEMTEST and Intel© linpack.
No error was found - results you can see below
http://www.psp-devices.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&a...f2ef178e02bcdcc63
http://forums.overclockers.ru/viewtopic.php?p=5355538#5355538

unfortunately in russian.

what voltage
i'll test on dfi x38 n see next week
maybe on dfi x38 i can do 1300 but i doubt it will go further 100% stable

anyone want my set i'm open to offers

[indeo]

what voltage? All data on this screen. Now he plane to join to "DDR2-1400" club.. but he haz 2x2 GB...

http://s49.radikal.ru/i123/0810/c6/34a93af29087t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s49.radikal.ru/i123/0810/c6/34a93af29087.png.html)
1300MHz 1.93V 24/7 (memtest)

http://s42.radikal.ru/i097/0810/d4/082132353a89t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s42.radikal.ru/i097/0810/d4/082132353a89.jpg.html)
1350MHz 2.27V SuperPi 32M

http://i058.radikal.ru/0810/67/73eb1b80cdc6t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/i058.radikal.ru/0810/67/73eb1b80cdc6.png.html)
1380MHz 2.4V SuperPi 1M 1380

[-n7-]

All data on this screen. Now he plane to join to "DDR2-1400" club.. but he haz 2x2 GB...

http://s49.radikal.ru/i123/0810/c6/34a93af29087t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s49.radikal.ru/i123/0810/c6/34a93af29087.png.html)
1300MHz 1.93V 24/7 (memtest)

http://s42.radikal.ru/i097/0810/d4/082132353a89t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s42.radikal.ru/i097/0810/d4/082132353a89.jpg.html)
1350MHz 2.27V SuperPi 32M

http://i058.radikal.ru/0810/67/73eb1b80cdc6t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/i058.radikal.ru/0810/67/73eb1b80cdc6.png.html)
1380MHz 2.4V SuperPi 1M 1380
:eek: :clap:

Spectacular.

DDR2-1300 HCI stable = wow

[Jor3lBR]

Hi guys, I'm joining the G. Skill 9600 club and was wondering what are you guys doing to cool these babys? I dunno how I'm going to fit my XTC Cooler with that huge HS profile...

Anyone tried to remove them?

[zsamz_]

Hi guys, I'm joining the G. Skill 9600 club and was wondering what are you guys doing to cool these babys? I dunno how I'm going to fit my XTC Cooler with that huge HS profile...

Anyone tried to remove them?

no need to really cool them as long as you not goin over 2.1v
but need good ventilation in case

[Jor3lBR]

no need to really cool them as long as you not goin over 2.1v
but need good ventilation in case

Thanks for the info sam, yes our Dfi'S will always want less vdimm then other boards, I guess I'll put a cheap Antec SpotCool fan just in case instead of the OCZ XTC...:up:

[high-gertz]

Hello, now I am with you :toast:

[high-gertz]

Ukraine, Donetsk :buddies:
I bought his memory here, three weeks later I received them, one of the first http://www.ncixus.com/products/32241/F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI/Others/ :cheer2:
You see, my best result with a low voltage, fan, I use 80 mm
http://s56.radikal.ru/i153/0810/36/4bb7e7532a73t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s56.radikal.ru/i153/0810/36/4bb7e7532a73.jpg.html)

[high-gertz]

Type of system, the body is opent

http://s58.radikal.ru/i161/0810/19/7a6f8c047b2at.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s58.radikal.ru/i161/0810/19/7a6f8c047b2a.jpg.html)

[Leeghoofd]

High Gertz, this is an american forum , plz all posts in english !!!!

High gertz, diess is eines Amerikanischen forum, bitte NUR in englische sprache posten !!!

[high-gertz]

High Gertz, this is an american forum , plz all posts in english !!!!

High gertz, diess is eines Amerikanischen forum, bitte NUR in englische sprache posten !!!

Sorry, wrong automatically, to correct

[Jor3lBR]

Ukraine, Donetsk :buddies:
I bought his memory here, three weeks later I received them, one of the first http://www.ncixus.com/products/32241/F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI/Others/ :cheer2:
You see, my best result with a low voltage, fan, I use 80 mm
http://s56.radikal.ru/i153/0810/36/4bb7e7532a73t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s56.radikal.ru/i153/0810/36/4bb7e7532a73.jpg.html)

great result with almost none vdimm :clap:

can you also share your memset values?

[high-gertz]

Jor3lBR
I will make pictures BIOS settings, and give more screen modified timing - can not continue to change.

reducing timing for 1300
http://i012.radikal.ru/0810/e5/eb6366dff061t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/i012.radikal.ru/0810/e5/eb6366dff061.jpg.html)

To do this, change the settings in the BIOS, wait photo. Be sure to add fan.

As promised to adjust the BIOS DFI LT x48-T2R


http://www.sharemania.ru/0262010

[WaterFlex]

high-gertz
The fact is that 1.8-1.9V for these chips is the same thing like 2.1-2.2V for microns, especially for d9gkx.

[high-gertz]

WaterFlex
Yes, but not 2х2gg microns, and the PSC is much colder with these chips G. SKILL far ahead.

[Jor3lBR]

WaterFlex
Yes, but not 2х2gg microns, and the PSC is much colder with these chips G. SKILL far ahead.

Yes to run 4gigas of Micro D9 at that speed is much harder and involved lots of time tweaking fine-delays and more vdimm etc to get it right.

That's why I sold them to get these...

[neo mike]

anybody know anywhere else to get this memory besides memoryc.com ? and newegg, seems everybody is sold out, and no idea when they will get more.

[Jor3lBR]

anybody know anywhere else to get this memory besides memoryc.com ? and newegg, seems everybody is sold out, and no idea when they will get more.

I got mine from Canadian's ncix.com they had 2 kits left for USD 280 each on Sunday.

[neo mike]

what would you say is the max you can run this kit 24/7 ? do you guys think this is the best 4gb kit for ddr-2, everybody is out of this stuff, g.skill needs to make this more available.

[Jor3lBR]

what would you say is the max you can run this kit 24/7 ? do you guys think this is the best 4gb kit for ddr-2, everybody is out of this stuff, g.skill needs to make this more available.

Runs 1200Mz stable with 1.75vdimm and 1300Mhz with a little more what else can you ask for (voltages on DFI LP X48)?

Never seen 4Gb kits run like that with so little voltages! These are thabomb and I don't work for G.Skill... :up:

[high-gertz]

Jor3lBR

I have even better, 1272Mz stable with 1.71vdimm :up::up::up:

http://s40.radikal.ru/i087/0810/2e/1fcea0d18022t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s40.radikal.ru/i087/0810/2e/1fcea0d18022.jpg.html)

Neo Mike

Leaf page back, everything is explained.

[Jor3lBR]

Jor3lBR

I have even better, 1272Mz stable with 1.71vdimm :up::up::up:

http://s40.radikal.ru/i087/0810/2e/1fcea0d18022t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s40.radikal.ru/i087/0810/2e/1fcea0d18022.jpg.html)

Neo Mike

Leaf page back, everything is explained.

Yes they can get lower the problem is my build is not mounted yet so I only tested in auto settings and in only 3 runs without any tweaking :up:

Nice results.

[neo mike]

1275 stable is good for me, now if i can just get my hands on a kit i will be set, this stuff isnt easy to get, newegg is exspecting more on 10/17, thanks for the help and information guys.

[zsamz_]

1275 stable is good for me, now if i can just get my hands on a kit i will be set, this stuff isnt easy to get, newegg is exspecting more on 10/17, thanks for the help and information guys.

it also depends on what board you gonna use i doubt p35 gonna get them sticks past 1270 stable

[neo mike]

I have a p45 board.

[zsamz_]

so far i only seen dfi x38-x48 clock these sticks @ high mhz
those boards are tuned to clock 2x2
my ut p35 clocks memory higher than my x38 but only 2x1
4x1 n 2x2 x38-48 does it better

[neo mike]

I tried 4+1 memory in my board wouldnt even post, i will have to give it a shot and see what happens.

[high-gertz]

Guys

Multimeter with a 1272 MHz shows 1.77v, in the BIOS 1.8V; for 1300 1.91v, in the BIOS 1.94v, these results are stable in 24 / 7. DFI LT X48-T2R :up:

[Jor3lBR]

Guys

Multimeter with a 1272 MHz shows 1.77v, in the BIOS 1.8V; for 1300 1.91v, in the BIOS 1.94v, these results are stable in 24 / 7. DFI LT X48-T2R :up:

:up: these sticks are magic! ad a DFI X38/48 to the mixture and you got a winner.

I heard the new beta bios really boosts memory speed have you tried it?

[high-gertz]

Jor3lBR

I was a beta BIOS X48ADA02 very upset, very much cut, compared with X48AD829, dispersing poor, had to go back.
If interested, please see my review G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI

http://people.overclockers.ru/highgertz/record1

[neo mike]

I have been trying for weeks to get this memory, newegg said 10/17/08, they never got it, i have tried memoryc, ncix, nobody has had it for weeks, COME ON G.SKILL GET THE WITH THE PROGRAM AND MAKE SOME MORE OF THIS STUFF, time to look for another memory company.

[zsamz_]

I have been trying for weeks to get this memory, newegg said 10/17/08, they never got it, i have tried memoryc, ncix, nobody has had it for weeks, COME ON G.SKILL GET THE WITH THE PROGRAM AND MAKE SOME MORE OF THIS STUFF, time to look for another memory company.

stop cryin if you want a set i'll sell ya mine
if i take out my x38 i wont sell em:D

[andressergio]

stop cryin if you want a set i'll sell ya mine
if i take out my x38 i wont sell em:D

bad bad zsamz sell them to me :rofl:

[zsamz_]

bad bad zsamz sell them to me :rofl:

newegg price is 300$
gimme 300$ its yours

[-n7-]

Jor3lBR

I was a beta BIOS X48ADA02 very upset, very much cut, compared with X48AD829, dispersing poor, had to go back.
If interested, please see my review G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI

http://people.overclockers.ru/highgertz/record1

Great stuff; thanx for removing the spreaders.

I'm a bit confused though...it's said this stuff is PSC, but it looks like what i've heard is ProMOS?

Here's the same type of IC (look at the pic) is said to be ProMOS.
Chaintech Apogee GT 2x2 GB DDR2-1066
http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showthread.php?p=3170602#post3170602

Here's some Transcend AxeRAM 2x1 GB DDR2-1200
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3223891&postcount=63
Same type of IC design.

So something's not right here.

Either this different looking IC is actually a higher end type of PSC that looks like what some say is ProMOS, or it's actually ProMOS?

Direct pics for comparing.

G.Skill 2x2 GB DDR2-1000 = PSC (thanx to Miravo)
http://ense7en.com/pics/ram/G.Skill%20F2-8000CL5D-4GBPI%20by%20Miravo/IMG_2740.JPG

Mushkin 2x2 GB DDR2-800 = PSC (thanx to t-break)
http://ense7en.com/pics/ram/Mushkin%20XP2-6400%20996580/imageview.php.jpg

Transcend 2x2 GB DDR2-1066 = PSC (thanx to s e t h)
http://ense7en.com/pics/ram/Transcend%20aXeRam%202x2%20GB%20DDr2-1066/icdimms.jpg

I have a ton of other pics of PSC on different kits; we all know what PSC looks like.

Chaintech Apogee GT 2x2 GB DDR2-1066 = ProMOS? (thanx to Miravo)
http://ense7en.com/pics/ram/Chaintech%20Apogee%20GT%20PC8500%202x2%20GB/resized.jpg

Transcend 2x1 GB DDR2-1200 = ? (thanx to nicepun)
http://ense7en.com/pics/ram/Transcend%20AxeRam%202x1%20GB%20DDR2-1200/resized.jpg

G.Skill 2x2 GB DDR2-1200 = PSC? (thanx to high-gertz)
http://ense7en.com/pics/ram/G.Skill%202x2%20GB%20DDR2-1200/d4aba0b65a84.jpg

This "PSC" is a different IC layout than i am used to seeing in PSC...

Anyone know what the real deal is?

Because if this is PSC, then that Chaintech Miravo said was ProMOS is PSC, as is the Transcend @ DDR2-1200, which would indicate this is a significantly higher rated PSC IC than the normal ones.

[Miravo]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showthread.php?p=3170602#post3170602

ProMOS

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3223891&postcount=63

ProMOS


http://ense7en.com/pics/ram/G.Skill%20F2-8000CL5D-4GBPI%20by%20Miravo/IMG_2740.JPG

PowerChip

http://ense7en.com/pics/ram/Mushkin%20XP2-6400%20996580/imageview.php.jpg

PowerChip


http://ense7en.com/pics/ram/Transcend%20aXeRam%202x2%20GB%20DDr2-1066/icdimms.jpg

PowerChip

http://ense7en.com/pics/ram/Chaintech%20Apogee%20GT%20PC8500%202x2%20GB/resized.jpg

ProMOS

Transcend 2x1 GB DDR2-1200 = ? (thanx to nicepun)
http://ense7en.com/pics/ram/Transcend%20AxeRam%202x1%20GB%20DDR2-1200/resized.jpg

ProMOS

http://ense7en.com/pics/ram/G.Skill%202x2%20GB%20DDR2-1200/d4aba0b65a84.jpg

ProMOS

I had two PC9600 G.skill PI (only 2 as I can't buy more in Europe at that moment, I am waiting for 3 sets about one month...) The first retail supply was PowerChip (the same as in PC8800 PI) and now is ProMOS in PC8800 and PC9600. This ProMOS is also awesome and can do about 1200 - 1300 what of I have seen till now. It's used in Mushkin XP2 PC8800 2x2 Kit ( my set does 1230 MHz stable if I remember correctly) and G.skill PI 8800 does about 1150 - 1190 (I tested 7 kits two weeks ago).

[neo mike]

$300 for your used memory you been overclocking and pumping high voltage into, no thanks:D will wait for new stuff for that price, thanks anyways.

[-n7-]

http://ense7en.com/pics/ram/G.Skill%202x2%20GB%20DDR2-1200/d4aba0b65a84.jpg

ProMOS

I had two PC9600 G.skill PI (only 2 as I can't buy more in Europe at that moment, I am waiting for 3 sets about one month...) The first retail supply was PowerChip (the same as in PC8800 PI) and now is ProMOS in PC8800 and PC9600. This ProMOS is also awesome and can do about 1200 - 1300 what of I have seen till now. It's used in Mushkin XP2 PC8800 2x2 Kit ( my set does 1230 MHz stable if I remember correctly) and G.skill PI 8800 does about 1150 - 1190 (I tested 7 kits two weeks ago).

Thanx very much for the info.

I kinda was wondering why this stuff was doing so much better than the normal PSC was.

So we have a new 2 GB DIMM champion, ProMOS :eek::D

You wouldn't happen to have any pics of your findings with those other kits now would you? ;)

[zsamz_]

$300 for your used memory you been overclocking and pumping high voltage into, no thanks:D will wait for new stuff for that price, thanks anyways.

i never went past 2.09v n they running only 1230mhz 2.06v@ 515fsb 24/7 24c
and they will be in the for sale section soon and cheap
i gettin a nahaleem itch:eek:
too bad you dont have 100+ posts:rofl:

[neo mike]

Why do i need 100 post ? im interested in them, but not for $300, im tired of waiting for these things looking for other 4gb kits, but right price, i paypal you right now.

[Jor3lBR]

I don't think G. Skill is going to make more of these! They are still out of stock almost everywhere and I don't see anymore coming back to stock.

[zsamz_]

I don't think G. Skill is going to make more of these! They are still out of stock almost everywhere and I don't see anymore coming back to stock.

its weird i only seen a few kits n they went fast i was lucky to get mine @ a good price
i was gonna buy it from memoryc but woulda cost 400$+ ridiculous

[neo mike]

everywhere has been out of stock for weeks, newegg said 10/17 and they never got them, so im about to just forget about getting these. Problems is finding a 4gb kit that will do 1200 plus, i dont know of any besides these:(.

[Jor3lBR]

everywhere has been out of stock for weeks, newegg said 10/17 and they never got them, so im about to just forget about getting these. Problems is finding a 4gb kit that will do 1200 plus, i dont know of any besides these:(.

Indeed if your looking for 2 x 2gb but I sold 4 x 1gb of my Ballistix Tracer (D9) and they could hit 1200 easily with less then 2vdimm...

I think I told you that last month.

Sold.

[zsamz_]

Indeed if your looking for 2 x 2gb but I sold 4 x 1gb of my Ballistix Tracer (D9) and they could hit 1200 easily with less then 2vdimm...

I think I told you that last month.

Sold.

i still got 20+gigs of d9:rofl:

[neo mike]

I tried running 4=1gb sticks on my board it wouldnt even post. Dont know why, but 2=2gb works great. I would like to know if i can take the 4+1gb route.

[zsamz_]

I tried running 4=1gb sticks on my board it wouldnt even post. Dont know why, but 2=2gb works great. I would like to know if i can take the 4+1gb route.

what is your board
btw not many boards gonna do 1200 4x1
so far only dfi x38-x48 is a 4x1 and 2x2clocking monster

[neo mike]

I have the gigabyte ep45-ds3r. Yeah 2+2gb is the way to go. Im thinking of going with the ocz flex2 9200 and overclocking them to 1200 or a little above that should work its a 4gb kit, talked with ocz said they will run on my board.

[zsamz_]

I have the gigabyte ep45-ds3r. Yeah 2+2gb is the way to go. Im thinking of going with the ocz flex2 9200 and overclocking them to 1200 or a little above that should work its a 4gb kit, talked with ocz said they will run on my board.

i doubt you gonna hit 1200 with the ocz gl

[zsamz_]

i took out my x38 for a quick memtest run
sticks are crazy full pass @ 1300mhz with 2.1v
memtest bandwidth was 7100mbs:eek:

[neo mike]

whats sticks are you talking about the g.skill 9600

[zsamz_]

whats sticks are you talking about the g.skill 9600

duh this is the gskills pc2-9600 thread lol
i only did 2 passes 1 @ low fsb 1 @ high fsb 1300mhz

[zsamz_]

did a cas 4 run 100% stable 2.08v
soon i gonna run my x38 these sticks love x38

[zsamz_]

did a full pass of memtest 2.1v
need a new bios for dfi x38 it really dont like my e8600:mad:
memory clocked higher with e6400 and e6850:shrug:

[Jor3lBR]

did a full pass of memtest 2.1v
need a new bios for dfi x38 it really dont like my e8600:mad:
memory clocked higher with e6400 and e6850:shrug:

I like the scores sam keep pushing!

Do you leave T2 Dispatch Enabled or Disabled? PL=?

I also would like a bios optimized for Quads... Can't get near 500fsb on a Quad / X48. Shame :down:

Did some runs with GTL @ 67% but after 485Mhz x 9 is a no go.

[zsamz_]

I like the scores sam keep pushing!

Do you leave T2 Dispatch Enabled or Disabled? PL=?

I also would like a bios optimized for Quads... Can't get near 500fsb on a Quad / X48. Shame :down:

Did some runs with GTL @ 67% but after 485Mhz x 9 is a no go.

those scores suk in my view it should be 11k all around
i might try goin 1t :cool:
the real shame i cant get my e8600 to play nice with x38
i wasted 6+ hours with x38 n all bioses
i'll be doin more testing next week before i dump x38 again
and if x38 dont play nice with e8600 soon i will sell both my x38 n gskills
the big reason i got this set was for x38 + e8600 and i need to run 515fsb+

[Jor3lBR]

:shrug:gertz,

Can you post your BIOS rev? I tried A02, 602 etc and none can boot windows using the 400/1066 strap like yours!


Jor3lBR
I will make pictures BIOS settings, and give more screen modified timing - can not continue to change.

reducing timing for 1300
http://i012.radikal.ru/0810/e5/eb6366dff061t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/i012.radikal.ru/0810/e5/eb6366dff061.jpg.html)

To do this, change the settings in the BIOS, wait photo. Be sure to add fan.

As promised to adjust the BIOS DFI LT x48-T2R


http://www.sharemania.ru/0262010

[bigslappy]

sub'd

[zsamz_]

:shrug:gertz,

Can you post your BIOS rev? I tried A02, 602 etc and none can boot windows using the 400/1066 strap like yours!

i can but only with me e6400 bios 602
but with my e8600 it causes its a pain

[RobinL]

I have orderd few days this memory to, but it isn`t avaible for now. And i think it won`t be avaible anymore. So now i want looking for some other ram.
Which rams will do the same, or a little bit slower? Iam looking for an 2x2GB DDR2 kit. I have de maximus formula @ rampage for now. But also thinking to sell it and go for the gigabyte EP45-UD3P. All i want is doing 630mhz on the rams..

[18 is # 1]

Sorry if this was already posted, Indonesian review with spreaders off, says it's Powerchips:http://www.ur-hardware.com/Memory/G.Skill-4GB-PI.html

[OdinEidolon]

why only gskill has these awesome chips, anyone knows?

[zsamz_]

why only gskill has these awesome chips, anyone knows?

even gskills cant get enough of these chips so i doubt anyone else can

[Roger_D25]

UPDATE: Newegg currenlty has one kit available for sale for $299 but I don't think its going to last long! [/B]HERE (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231201) is the link guys, good luck!


[B]UPDATE #2: Scratch that, the kit is no longer available because I just bought it! They will be delivered on Friday morning so I'll hopefully have some results up Friday night (thankfully got the day off)!

Opps, just double checked and there is actually more kits available (not sure how many because newegg has limited purchasing to one per customer). When they do that its hard to check their inventory, all I can say is that there are more kits of this RAM available at the moment. Sorry about the misunderstanding guys.

[bigslappy]

I got a pair !!!

[RobinL]

I am not, i have changed my order to mushkins 4GB 8500 Black ascent.:rofl::down:

[Roger_D25]

bigslappy - Did you get your kit from newegg after reading my post or did you find them available somewhere else? I just recently made the switch back to DDR2 from DDR3 so I'm glad to have been able to get this kit so soon after making the switch (especialy since it seems like this kit has been very hard to comeby)!

RobinL - Just curious, why did you change your order and get the Mushkins instead (personal choice, finacial reasons, etc..)? Granted this is an awesome 4GB kit of DDR2 (probably one of the best 4GB kits) but given there is much cheaper RAM with somewhat similar performance it can be hard to justify the cost. However I was happy to pay $299 for a kit and I'm looking forward to testing them soon!

[Jsunn]

At new egg now!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231201

[Roger_D25]

Yeah I posted them last night but their sold out again now, hopefully a few of you guys got a kit while they were available!

[-n7-]

Sorry if this was already posted, Indonesian review with spreaders off, says it's Powerchips:http://www.ur-hardware.com/Memory/G.Skill-4GB-PI.html

Those have gotta be the worst pictures of ICs ever.

Anyway, in spite of the horrible focus & distance of the pictures, one can still see the layout of the markings on the IC, & they aren't PSC markings, they are ProMOS ones.

See my previous post: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3368868&postcount=145

Top three pictures in that post are PSC.

Notice how the dot is perfectly centered to match the bottom line of text, & notice the font style/size.

Bottom three are ProMOS.

Notice how the dot is slightly lower than the text, & the font is smaller & different than the PSC's.

Then compare to the Indonesian Hardware reviews pics...
It'd be nice to have a decent pic, but i can already tell it's ProMOS, even from the blurry pics.

[WaterFlex]

$300...too much, but It is worth it.

[bigslappy]

[QUOTE=Roger_D25;3410724]bigslappy - Did you get your kit from newegg after reading my post or did you find them available somewhere else? I just recently made the switch back to DDR2 from DDR3 so I'm glad to have been able to get this kit so soon after making the switch (especialy since it seems like this kit has been very hard to comeby)!

Yeah I got an auto notifiy notice at tyhe same time u posted & i got a pair & they would not sell 2 pairs get them monday OR tuesday
G.Skill only NewEgg would get them 1St ....YAHOO FTW

[Roger_D25]

Thanks bigslappy, much appreciated! Unfortunately I haven't had enough time to actually push them or do much testing but they did boot right up at 1200Mhz @ 5-5-5-15 on 2.02v (Rampage Formula overvolts a bit on the vDIMM). I ran a few regular benchies just to test for basic stability (SuperPI 32M, Windows MemTest, Primed for 1.5hrs on blend-test, and gamed last night for 2.5hrs with zero problems), this stuff is amazing to say the least! I'm very happy to have made the investment and I assume it will have some clocking headroom with both clockspeeds and latencies! By the way I spent a few minutes right when I first opened the package trying to pull the heat spreader (to verify IC's) but wimped out after a few minutes!

UPDATE: I've been doing some various testing tonight with this new RAM trying to get decent Read/Write/Latancy numbers while still being somewhat stable and I just got the best I've been able to do so far. Keep in mind this isn't impressive compared to what most of you guys do but for me this is great! This RAM is very impressive I think and I've loving this new Rampage Formula of mine! Besides the high clockspeed run below I did alot of testing at lower clocks and tighter latencies but so far this yeilded the best numbers. Plus as I'm sure most of you guys know already the most important setting so far seems to be "Common Performance Level" or "Performance Level", it easily has the biggest impact on memory performance. If I was watercooling my NB I'd would have tried lowering the PL from 7 (which is what I used for below) to 6 but to get any stability I needed to use more NB voltage than I felt comfortable with.

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/7294/performance2aw2.jpg

Thumbnail below has higher resolution than image above.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1193/performance2wi9.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=performance2wi9.jpg)

[LuckySevn]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231194

they where a little higher a few days ago.

they're cheaper then my GEIL evo one pair & a bit better... :/ (screwed again >_<)

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c85/Crimsonite/cachemem.png

EVO ONE 4x2GB DDR2-1060 @ 2.00v

PowerChips. No matter how high they're binned they only take as high as 2.1v, any higher they refuse to boot. The highest binned PowerChips only need 1.9v to run DDR2-1066 CL5. I've tried 5 different batches of PowerChips none of them take higher than 2.1v...unless PSC (Li-Jing) secretly released a new chip...:shrug:

Anyhow, those PI's are crazy, the high clocks can allow me to push the Wolfdales further! but $299.99 is too steep...:(

[Jor3lBR]

Anyhow, those PI's are crazy, the high clocks can allow me to push the Wolfdales further! but $299.99 is too steep...:(

Yeap you're right you have o decide, CoreI7 or G.Skills9600 Pi:shrug:

[LuckySevn]

Thanks bigslappy, much appreciated! Unfortunately I haven't had enough time to actually push them or do much testing but they did boot right up at 1200Mhz @ 5-5-5-15 on 2.02v (Rampage Formula overvolts a bit on the vDIMM)....

My EVO ONE's boot DDR2-1200 CL5 @ 2.00v too but can't get in Vista no matter what. I was told by some folks on Coolaler that I should use XP 'cuz Vista addresses the memory way different than XP. Haven't tried XP with these so not sure. I'd like to see if those PI's can run Vista x64 100% stable @ DDR2-1200!!! Anyone here can share that particular experience? Thank you thank you~~


Yeap you're right you have o decide, CoreI7 or G.Skills9600 Pi...

I know man...I wanna get an i7 and a Deneb when it launches....but not having crazy arse memory too push them is a pain....I can't even sleep on it... T_T

[LuckySevn]

And here's my EVO ONE's:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c85/Crimsonite/GeIL_PSC_EVO1.jpg

I'd like to see clearly what's under the hood of these Pi's~~!!

[Roger_D25]

LuckySevn - Those GEIL Evo One modules are very decent and I almost got them instead of these GSkill 4GBI's (plus their much cheaper)! $300 is indeed very expensive for a 4GB kit of DDR2 but after having them for a week or so I'm very happy I bought them and will definately keep them for a while (at least until I make the switch to i7).

In regards to the IC's used on these modules I'm not 100% sure because the heatspreader is difficult to remove (much harder than my last kit of GSKill RAM that had the clips instead of the adhesive thermal pad used now). However I was able to carefully pull-up one side of one of the modules and they look just like this I think (but its hard to say without fully removing the heatspreader)

http://ense7en.com/pics/ram/G.Skill%202x2%20GB%20DDR2-1200/d4aba0b65a84.jpg

If I am able to safely remove the heatspreader I will take a few high-resolution photos and post them ASAP! I can also say that this kit scales pretty well with increased voltage (just like Denny's results show at the beginning of this thead). I didn't go past 2.10v in BIOS (which overvolts to about 2.18v-2.21v) but I feel confident that it would have continued scalling for a bit.

You had also asked about Vista and if these modules run on it, well my kit is running very strong on both WinXP SP2 and Vista 64-bit SP1. I haven't had a single issues with either OS and I've done lots of benchmaking and gaming on both OS's. I'm surprised your not having any luck with Vista using those Evo One modules but its clear from your picture above that the 4GBPI's are using different IC's (at least from what I saw and what I think they are). I'm even more interested in pulling this darn heatspreader off but like everyone else I also don't want to kill my very expensive RAM! Let me know if you want any specific Vista/XP results or tests and I'll do the best I can.

[-n7-]

And here's my EVO ONE's:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c85/Crimsonite/GeIL_PSC_EVO1.jpg

I'd like to see clearly what's under the hood of these Pi's~~!!

Thanx for the pic confirming your kit is PSC; i'll add it to my collection ;)

We figured out the ICs of these G.Skills a few pages back
See Miravo confirm they are ProMOS here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3371269&postcount=146
(This was the post containing the review link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3358965&postcount=140)

Another review linked here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3414956&postcount=180
In spite of the bad pics, also shows they are ProMOS.

[LuckySevn]

LuckySevn - Those GEIL Evo One modules are very decent and I almost got them instead of these GSkill 4GBI's (plus their much cheaper)! $300 is indeed very expensive for a 4GB kit of DDR2 but after having them for a week or so I'm very happy I bought them and will definately keep them for a while (at least until I make the switch to i7).

In regards to the IC's used on these modules I'm not 100% sure because the heatspreader is difficult to remove (much harder than my last kit of GSKill RAM that had the clips instead of the adhesive thermal pad used now). However I was able to carefully pull-up one side of one of the modules and they look just like this I think (but its hard to say without fully removing the heatspreader)

If I am able to safely remove the heatspreader I will take a few high-resolution photos and post them ASAP! I can also say that this kit scales pretty well with increased voltage (just like Denny's results show at the beginning of this thead). I didn't go past 2.10v in BIOS (which overvolts to about 2.18v-2.21v) but I feel confident that it would have continued scalling for a bit.

You had also asked about Vista and if these modules run on it, well my kit is running very strong on both WinXP SP2 and Vista 64-bit SP1. I haven't had a single issues with either OS and I've done lots of benchmaking and gaming on both OS's. I'm surprised your not having any luck with Vista using those Evo One modules but its clear from your picture above that the 4GBPI's are using different IC's (at least from what I saw and what I think they are). I'm even more interested in pulling this darn heatspreader off but like everyone else I also don't want to kill my very expensive RAM! Let me know if you want any specific Vista/XP results or tests and I'll do the best I can.

No need to pull your spreaders -n7 linked me already, they're ProMOS. Plus I wouldn't want you to risk $300 lol! There was another guy in Taiwan with these EVO's and he got 'em running DDR2-1200 @ 2.0v in XP 64 just fine, but he's on DFI. He said he couldn't boot into Vista at that speed. So I really don't know...it's probably just the chips, not binned high enough or they're just not 100% stable for Vista. After seeing the results on those PI's, I'm getting crazily anxious about grabbing a set.....that's how I went broke....but just can't resist it...

If you could show me some Everest and game benchies with those in Vista I'd really appreciate it! Thanks man~:up:

[Roger_D25]

Guys - You probably read through my post but just incase you didn't I want to be clear. The picture I posted above is not an actual picture of my modules, I just copied that picture from earier in the thread because it was almost exactly the same from what I viewed of my own modules. With that said however its very clear their ProMOS without a doubt, definatly not PSC.

LuckySevn - I've only had my Rampage Formula for about a week now so I'm not sure about this but maybe you could try using "SetFSB" to raise the RAM speed once your booted into Vista (not sure if there is a SetFSB for our board though)? Its been a while since I used that program so I kinda forget if it would even be possible to do that? I'm just about to start watching a movie with the girlfriend (don't have a TV so we use my computer) so I'll have to post some benchies tomorrow afternoon. Fortunatly once I'm done with work I've got the night off for testing and tuning!

-n7- Thanks for confirming my thoughts about the 4GBPI IC's, much apprecaited! I tried searching for more detailed information about the IC's (like you can for Micron chips by going to Micron's website) but didn't have much luck). Not much to learn, I was just curious about the tech information on the chips themselves.

EDIT: I just noticed LuckySevn that your running 8GB of RAM (4 x 2GB), no wonder your having some difficulties booting into Vista at 1200Mhz! Having 4 2GB high-density modules puts alot more stress on the memory controller, I bet you wouldn't have much trouble doing it with only 4GB (that is all I'm running, just a 2x 2GB setup).

[LuckySevn]

Thanx for the pic confirming your kit is PSC; i'll add it to my collection ;)

We figured out the ICs of these G.Skills a few pages back
See Miravo confirm they are ProMOS here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3371269&postcount=146
(This was the post containing the review link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3358965&postcount=140)

Another review linked here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3414956&postcount=180
In spite of the bad pics, also shows they are ProMOS.

Thanks for the linkies n7! I'm definitely getting a set now! Forget i7! :up:

[Roger_D25]

Good choice, i7 will be around a while and will most likely get better with time. So by the time your ready to upgrade it will be cheaper, better developed, and there will be more community support here for it (at least that is how I justified paying this much for that RAM), lol! Now the only problem you'll have LuckySevn is finding a kit in stock somewhere (I lucked out by finding a few kits at newegg but its real hit or miss). Make sure you keep us updated as soon as you get a kit!

[LuckySevn]

I like your justification on that. lol!

Yea I suppose I shouldn't get i7 when it just barely launched anyways. But dude those Pi's are nowhere to be found lol...Well, setup Egg Auto-Notify...hopefully it hits Egg's dock soon and I be the 1st to be notified. About their Auto-Notify thing though...very unreliable. Happened to me with HD3870 and HD4870. Both times Egg notified me last min, when I get on the very same day I received the notice, all outta stock again. -_-

[bigslappy]

auto notify worked for me , that's how i got mine .

[Highgertz]

-n7-
I bought the GA-EP45-DS5, it works a little worse with Perfomanc Level compared to the DFI LT X48-T2R, the rest as well overklok improved Xeon 3360 C1 - 4.42Mhz FSB 520Mhz
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=445916

http://i048.radikal.ru/0811/0b/beb3a3353e26t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/i048.radikal.ru/0811/0b/beb3a3353e26.jpg.html)

Photo my G. SKILL F2-9600

http://s48.radikal.ru/i122/0811/a6/61bc4e57b6b1t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s48.radikal.ru/i122/0811/a6/61bc4e57b6b1.jpg.html)

I doubt the origin of these chips but in any case, they are the best :clap:

[geok1ng]

excellent memories, great review, but at best very promising numbers: it is amazing how every single post of memory(criminal/yoko aside, of course- yoko is one of the best memory tweakers in the net) in Xtremsystems focus on E-penis numbers instead of real life best performance setups.
on jan/2008 Anandtech published a seminal article on Intel memory timings and options:http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=9 with the exception of one high FSB/low multiplier screenshot, 10 months later, using a very top of line/US$300 memory kit noone has beated the Everest numbers running 4(FOUR!!!) 1GB sticks!?
Why my fellow Xtrems? Why? Because instead of focusing on tRD (AKA performance level) people are going for raw Mhz and lesser important subtimings, even 10 months after the receipt for maximum memory performance on the C2D plataform was published. Allow me to quote AT:

[When viewed together the task of picking out a couple of the best choices becomes rather simple. A+ ratings, of course, go to the two configurations colored in light green (5:4 for DDR2-1000 CAS4 and 3:2 for DDR2-1200 CAS 5). You may be surprised, as we mentioned earlier, that they both use a humble 400MHz bus speed. If forced to choose another option, close second place awards might go to 450Mhz FSB - 1:1 and DDR2-900 CAS 4, or 4:3 DDR2-1200 CAS 5 (assuming your motherboard is capable of stable operation with the sometimes poorly implemented 4:3 divider). Just do not forget - whatever memory option you choose, be sure to remember the importance of tRD./I]

[I]In the end we decided to run our Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 at a final FSB of 400MHz with a multiplier of 10.0x at an even 4GHz. Our 4x1GB of OCZ DDR2 PC2-8000 Platinum Extreme Edition memory was set to run at DDR2-1000 (5:4) CAS 4 with a tRD of 5. Ultimately, the ASUS Rampage Formula provided us the ability to build a well-tuned system. Without question, ASUS' addition of BIOS options for direct tRD manipulation was instrumental to our successful overclock. When paired with top-end GPUs from either ATI or NVIDIA, our rig becomes a formidable gaming platform for enjoying today's titles and beyond.

the lower the TRD, the higher the memory read performance and vice versa. This change in TRD also drives vMCH, with lower values requiring substantially more voltage than the more "relaxed" (higher) values. We were able to push our ASUS Rampage Formula to a very impressive 450MHz FSB using a tRD of 5, which correlates to a TRD of about 11.1 ns. Because this required about 1.60V vMCH, for all intents and purposes we would consider this to be the practical limit of scaling, at least with conventional cooling. Above this voltage, we find that the X48 quickly turns into a little furnace during periods of prolonged load. Our recommendation is the liberal use of extra cooling capacity if you feel the need to push any further. DESTROYING THE MYTH THAT WATERCOOLING THE NB IS USELESS!

Moving on to the analysis at 450Mhz FSB, although we are able to show impressive memory read speeds at this same bus frequency using a 3:2 divider for DDR2-1350 CAS 5 at a tRD of 5, this configuration was far from stable on stock cooling alone - as was the memory speed. Most likely, the need to loosen tRD to 6 will be inevitable at this bus speed. Right from the start, we can see that TRD takes a hit as our minimum values thus far came at the lower 400Mhz FSB. What's more, possible memory configurations at this FSB do not seem to offer any real improvement over those at 400MHz. The first option worth considering, DDR2-900 at CAS 4, can be a little slow, especially considering that a tRD of 6 is not allowed. The DDR2-1200 choice will provide (at best) only miniscule gains over the same memory speed at 400MHz FSB because of the additional throughput efficiency made possible by the higher bus speed. Then again, the increase in TRD to 13.3ns, up from the minimum value of 12.5ns at 400MHz FSB, may completely negate any chance of a performance gain. Our last contender, DDR2-1080 at CAS 4, might be another neutral choice - on one hand there could be a small gain in performance over DDR2-1000 (CAS 4) seen at 400MHz FSB, but again the higher TRD may be this configuration's undoing. THATS THE REALM OF MOST GOOD SCREENSHOTS HERE-tRD of 6 and 1200Mhz speeds CAS5- whats the point in paying US$300 in a 2x2Gb kit if a 10 months old 4x1gb kit can do the same or better?

this last quote shows what i am expecting from Xtrem users: to make a DDR2 system stable 24x7 with the dream setup: 3:2 divider for DDR2-1350 CAS 5 at a tRD of 5- go for it boys!

So it has been possible to run 4GBs (4x1gb) at 1000Mhz AND keep the CPU at 10x400Mhz for over 10 months, the real challenge for new 2x2gb memory sticks is to keep tRD at 5 with the new CPUs that can do 10x450Mhz on air. On the article AT points out that the system can not run 3:2 divider for DDR2-1350 CAS 5 at a tRD of 5 STABLE- new memory chips and top P45 mobos should try to break this barrier, not reinvent the wheel with tRD 6 CAS 5 1200Mhz+ numbers. The 1.60V vMCH is a nice starting point for (ab)users of these amazing memory modules!

[Roger_D25]

I've been doing some various testing tonight with this new RAM trying to get decent Read/Write/Latancy numbers while still being somewhat stable and I just got the best I've been able to do so far. Keep in mind this isn't impressive compared to what most of you guys do but for me this is great! This RAM is very impressive I think and I've loving this new Rampage Formula of mine! Besides the high clockspeed run below I did alot of testing at lower clocks and tighter latencies but so far this yeilded the best numbers. Plus as I'm sure most of you guys know already the most important setting so far seems to be "Common Performance Level" or "Performance Level", it easily has the biggest impact on memory performance. If I was watercooling my NB I'd would have tried lowering the PL from 7 (which is what I used for below) to 6 but to get any stability I needed to use more NB voltage than I felt comfortable with.

Yeah read the sam article and that is why I posted this with my above results. As you mentioned its great to have screenshots showing uber high FSB, RAM clocks, etc.. but in my own testing (as you mentioned) I've found the best "actual" performance when running at 400FSB along with lots of tweaking! Granted this may not yeild the highest benchmark numbers it does yeild the best overall performance/reliability/low voltages. You make a great point man and one that I wish I realized a long time ago! I am by no means an expert when it comes to this stuff but I'm quickly finding that using the methodology you mentioned in your post above really does net the best performance (even though I havne't been able to get the settings you mentioned stable yet). Thanks for posting that information, its something I wanted to post but couldn't quite articulate what I was trying to say (but you did)!

[Roger_D25]

UPDATE: Just wanted to let you guys know that newegg currently has a few kits of GSkill's PC2-9600CL5D-4GBPI modules available, get em while they last!

[ChaosAD]

Does anyone know if its possible to find this kit in Europe?

[Sepander]

Does anyone know if its possible to find this kit in Europe?Yep. http://www.preiscompany.de/ddr2-4096mb-gskill-f29600cl5d4gbpi-p-21749.html

[ChaosAD]

Thanks a lot Sepander, i ll have a look at the site. I hope they will be able to send in Greece.

Btw i cant understand a thing on the site, and the price of 290 euro is more than crazy tbh.

[WaterFlex]

ROFL. 300 Euro is too much for DDR2.

[Sepander]

Btw i cant understand a thing on the site, and the price of 290 euro is more than crazy tbh.I know man. They are very expensive but this kit usually is.

[ChaosAD]

I agree its an expensive kit. But 300 dollars in US does not translate in 300 euros. I was expecting to be in the range of 180-200 euros.

[Commander_HK47]

I like this memory a lot, i have replaced my transcend 1200 4x1 sticks with a set of theses. So far i have them running @ 1200 default speed with a performance level of 5. They run intel burn test stable kick ass!!!

[zsamz_]

I agree its an expensive kit. But 300 dollars in US does not translate in 300 euros. I was expecting to be in the range of 180-200 euros.

yes 300 euros is ridiculous
already 300$us is expensive

[WaterFlex]

I like this memory a lot, i have replaced my transcend 1200 4x1 sticks with a set of theses. So far i have them running @ 1200 default speed with a performance level of 5. They run intel burn test stable kick ass!!!

IntelBurnTest doesn`t stress RAM very much
You should use MemTest 3.8 to check the NB<-->RAM stability.

[zsamz_]

lossened up subtimings n set memory to nominal to see if p35 can pull these babies 1300mhz
did a full pass + 1 pass of test 5 in memtest

[Roger_D25]

Nice work above zsamz, do you remember what PL (performance level) you used and what voltage you were running, thanks?

[zsamz_]

Nice work above zsamz, do you remember what PL (performance level) you used and what voltage you were running, thanks?

i used pl9 2.06v didnt tweak they can do pl8
dfi board got so many settings i had forgotten i had everything on verry aggressive lol
1250mhz is enough for me i only need 11k bandwidth for my 24/7
but runnin em 1300mhz you feel the speed;)

[Commander_HK47]

i used pl9 2.06v didnt tweak they can do pl8
dfi board got so many settings i had forgotten i had everything on verry aggressive lol
1250mhz is enough for me i only need 11k bandwidth for my 24/7
but runnin em 1300mhz you feel the speed;)

if its not to much trouble i would like to know your sub timings and the values you used to get to that speed - thanks

[zsamz_]

if its not to much trouble i would like to know your sub timings and the values you used to get to that speed - thanks

1300mhz
in memset 5-5-5-15-56-9-14-11-3-8-5-6
memory pull is enabled so pl is like 8.2
that was just a test not tweaked bandwith suked

[Highgertz]

G.SKILL F2-9600 plus GA-EP45-DS5, 80-mm fan - 1534Mhz 5-9-9-25 2х2gb 2.6v
http://s55.radikal.ru/i150/0811/a8/a6fd958cfb9et.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s55.radikal.ru/i150/0811/a8/a6fd958cfb9e.jpg.html)

[neo mike]

Nice highgertz, lets see some everest scores on the run ??

[Highgertz]

neo mike
Only validation, recently checked GA-EP45-UD3.

[neo mike]

Your able to run these sticks at PL 5 ? i would like to see that, i find that hard to believe

[Commander_HK47]

i can get them to run at 1300(1299) with pl5 default timings at 2.133 volts

[neo mike]

wow very nice results, i cant get my xtreem teams to run a 5 at 1000mgz, impressive, that asus maxus board , what chipset is that ?

[Commander_HK47]

maximus formula converted to rampage formula with bios 410(have not updated to the newer 6xx bios yet). I also cleaned/remounted my north and south bridge coolers

[neo mike]

thats impressive board and memory, i know the g.skill 9600 rocks, had no idea could run that low pl, probaly has something to with your board to. The best i can get with my board and memory is pl 7.

[zsamz_]

thats impressive board and memory, i know the g.skill 9600 rocks, had no idea could run that low pl, probaly has something to with your board to. The best i can get with my board and memory is pl 7.

its the chips promos likin low pl
powerchips need higher pl