Mushkin Ascent 2x2GB 8500's @ 1150Mhz 5-5-5-15 2.08v

[MGreg]

Only overclock to warrantied range. Once I don't need the kit anymore I'll see what they can kit with 2.3v

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/3663/982c023416ad14cb753710bfh5.th.jpg (http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=982c023416ad14cb753710bfh5.jpg)http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/2917/11e1d363973c943e120a167ms4.th.jpg (http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11e1d363973c943e120a167ms4.jpg)http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2825/9e28c213a76d12d8881d14avy3.th.jpg (http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=9e28c213a76d12d8881d14avy3.jpg)http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/2439/7700a333101592055b5d161hr1.th.jpg (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=7700a333101592055b5d161hr1.jpg)http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/3269/14f2df705a16719fc056fdcwp8.th.jpg (http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14f2df705a16719fc056fdcwp8.jpg)

This was a random kit from ncix, not a review sample.
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9351/scanux7.th.jpg (http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scanux7.jpg)

[Miravo]

Nice memory, maybe I will get one :)

[zanzabar]

what kind of ICs dose it have that it can get gains at 2.3, thats not powerchips

[zsamz_]

was hopin to see em go higher greg
i gave my redline to my son

zanzabar i bought some teamgroup ram to play with:D addicted to d9 :rofl:
pc2-5300 c3
pc2-6400 c3
pc2-8000 c5

[MGreg]

what kind of ICs dose it have that it can get gains at 2.3, thats not powerchips

Not sure on the IC's(Also policy prevents me from discussing) . But 2.2v bios, i almost had 1171Mhz stable, 1169Mhz was max I got though before giving up, due to cpu speeds being too low to be worth it(over 460fsb , my q6600 dies out).
Never got warm to the touch though, prob room temp would be best to describe it. Even with those voltages.

[MGreg]

was hopin to see em go higher greg
i gave my redline to my son


This is likely due to my motherboard. With how fast you got your redlines, these will likely do that much better.

[zsamz_]

This is likely due to my motherboard. With how fast you got your redlines, these will likely do that much better.

ya they went fast maxxed out @ 1142mhz @ 2.05v but runnin 1200+ 2.02v on d9:)
maximus is fine greg dfi might get 5-10mhz more

[MGreg]

I bet I could push them more, because they did keep scaling with voltage, but even being not warm at all to the touch (120MM fan over them too though) I need my ram to last me a bit, will see what they do one day though.
I've seen #'s like that from a few using our 2x1GB hp2-8500 2.2-2.35, 1200Mhz cas 5, higher 1100's with cas 4. edit, link http://forums.mushkin.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10510 , more, diff board same kit http://forums.mushkin.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11731

[-n7-]

Saw this on NCIX.

Nice results.

As for IC, i'd bet heavily on it being PSC under there, like everything else in the high end 2x2 GB arena.

[zanzabar]

are all of those kits like yours or is there multiple ic types (i dont want to know what so long as they are all like that one)

[MGreg]

All our 996619 will be using the same chips. If/when we no longer use the same chips, we change model #'s so there is no confusion about what your getting.
Being a kit right out of ncix's stock, my results would be a good indication of what to expect from recent batches.

[zsamz_]

All our 996619 will be using the same chips. If/when we no longer use the same chips, we change model #'s so there is no confusion about what your getting.
Being a kit right out of ncix's stock, my results would be a good indication of what to expect from recent batches.

i expected em to hit 1100+ easy
the few that require 1.9v for 1160-1200mhz are the real gems;)
they were on sale for 120$ man the prices commin down again please tell them to stop lowering prices cause i gettin tempted

[zfactor]

wow nice looks like they will def do better than the corsair i got.. hmm the prices just keep fallin...

[zanzabar]

not to be a pain, but is there any numbers on cas3 or 4

[zsamz_]

not to be a pain, but is there any numbers on cas3 or 4

no way they do cas3 cas4 800-900

[ripken204]

i should have some results of my own on these in the next couple of weeks.
Greg pushed me into buying them :)
i will be testing on a P5Q Deluxe and Q6700, should do very well.

[clee]

no way they do cas3 cas4 800-900

Yeah they can do cas4 without a sweat @ ddr800, 1.8v on both my DFI X38 and Maximus 2 Formula.

I could run mine @ ddr1140-ish for hours in Memtest86+ yet the best I can do up to now is ddr1100 to be OCCT stable, which imho is by far more stressful than memtest86.

My 2x1Gb Ballistix run fine @ ddr1175 @ 2.2v but the Mushkins ( "The ones that I have " ) don't seem to scale well with voltage at all. :(

[MGreg]

I didn't get to test it long enough, but will try to sometime before the weekend.
I was able to get 880 4-4-4-12 2.0v bios, to do a whole pass of memtest86+, along with 10 passes of test 5.

[zsamz_]

Yeah they can do cas4 without a sweat @ ddr800, 1.8v on both my DFI X38 and Maximus 2 Formula.

I could run mine @ ddr1140-ish for hours in Memtest86+ yet the best I can do up to now is ddr1100 to be OCCT stable, which imho is by far more stressful than memtest86.

My 2x1Gb Ballistix run fine @ ddr1175 @ 2.2v but the Mushkins ( "The ones that I have " ) don't seem to scale well with voltage at all. :(

we got new bios i bet we can make em screem now :D

[MGreg]

I could run mine @ ddr1140-ish for hours in Memtest86+ yet the best I can do up to now is ddr1100 to be OCCT stable, which imho is by far more stressful than memtest86.


Being as you were memtest86+ stable many passes, the issue was likely a north bridge / memory controller one that could of been solved.

Prime95 25.6 , for cpu test, or nb / fsb.
Memtest86+ or hci memtest. for a memory test

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

this stuff is rocking my world atm, best ram I've ever had for my DFI x38 LT

[MGreg]

Very nice.

Also , for those who got the 3DMark Vantage Promo with their kits, from newegg or our canadian resellers and don't have vista (or want to use it) We can trade for a 3dmark06 key.
See here (http://forums.mushkin.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12060)

[ioGLNX]

Could you please so kind to tell me why the europeans won't get 3D Mark 06/Vantage?
Why to hell you discriminate euorpeans? Is a kick in our ass I would say.:down::mad:

I recently bought one kit of the Mushkin Black Ascent DDR2-8500 4GB Kit.

[WaterFlex]

SNiiPE_DoGG :eek2: PL=6 ??? OMG, give me please everest cash&mem test, please!!! It`s unbelievable!

[zsamz_]

snipe you should be able to go higher just loossen up trfc

[ioGLNX]

I don't get this Mushkin KIT to operate @ 1142MHz.

I have a Maximus II Formula with Bios 0802/0901 and a Q9450 (which easily reach 4GHz).
I've tired to get the Mushkin Black-Ascent DDR2-1066 4GB Kit (996619) to 1142 MHz with no luck.
I also tried the same setting which are postet here - also with more Vdimm (2.15V)
still no luck.

Can anyone give me a hint or advise?

[zanzabar]

use pl8, and use a trfc of 55 and 1.3V NB

[zsamz_]

I don't get this Mushkin KIT to operate @ 1142MHz.

I have a Maximus II Formula with Bios 0802/0901 and a Q9450 (which easily reach 4GHz).
I've tired to get the Mushkin Black-Ascent DDR2-1066 4GB Kit (996619) to 1142 MHz with no luck.
I also tried the same setting which are postet here - also with more Vdimm (2.15V)
still no luck.

Can anyone give me a hint or advise?

dont push vdimm too high aim for 2.08 max
you might need to loosen pl by 1

[ioGLNX]

Thanks for the advises but I tried them already..is the first to check if the PL may cause it.

I used PL10 and TRFC 60 and higher ..still no luck.
Also wondering why my RAM was chip in a DVd Cady without a DVD?
Shoud there be a DVD or CD in it as i look like?

I'm from Germany.

[ahmad]

I don't get this Mushkin KIT to operate @ 1142MHz.

I have a Maximus II Formula with Bios 0802/0901 and a Q9450 (which easily reach 4GHz).
I've tired to get the Mushkin Black-Ascent DDR2-1066 4GB Kit (996619) to 1142 MHz with no luck.
I also tried the same setting which are postet here - also with more Vdimm (2.15V)
still no luck.

Can anyone give me a hint or advise?

Asus boards don't always like 996619 sticks. Maybe they need a magic bios or you could trade them for 996599.

[theELVISCERATOR]

Nice results now that I have grudgingly installed vista I need to upgrade my ballistix to a 4gb kit..

These play ok on a IP35 pro?

[MGreg]

I don't get this Mushkin KIT to operate @ 1142MHz.

I have a Maximus II Formula with Bios 0802/0901 and a Q9450 (which easily reach 4GHz).
I've tired to get the Mushkin Black-Ascent DDR2-1066 4GB Kit (996619) to 1142 MHz with no luck.
I also tried the same setting which are postet here - also with more Vdimm (2.15V)
still no luck.

Can anyone give me a hint or advise?

Try different clock skews, it could just be too high for your kit, future bios' may also improve things, but not likely.

[MGreg]

Nice results now that I have grudgingly installed vista I need to upgrade my ballistix to a 4gb kit..

These play ok on a IP35 pro?

I have found our 2x2GB kits do best when using 1:1.2 memory divider on your board, other dividers can limit your memory speed while at high fsb.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

I have found our 2x2GB kits do best when using 1:1.2 memory divider on your board, other dividers can limit your memory speed while at high fsb.

this is concurrent with my findings as well :up:

[WaterFlex]

SNiiPE_DoGG.
Read my previous msg. Show me please some everest.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

SNiiPE_DoGG.
Read my previous msg. Show me please some everest.

ah, sorry I missed that bud, here's my best everest score so far. This x38 board doesnt score so well with everest as a UT p35, but this is a good score considering

[zsamz_]

SNiiPE_DoGG.
Read my previous msg. Show me please some everest.

this is my redline 2.05v
the accent are about the same if verry lucky they better

[WaterFlex]

This is mine
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9463/motherboarddu3.th.png (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=motherboarddu3.png)

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

this is my redline 2.05v
the accent are about the same if verry lucky they better

This is mine
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both of you are at significantly higher FSB than mine tho, so you can really see where the PL6 pays off

we'll see where my ram goes tomorrow when my q9650 comes...

EDIT: and by tomorrow i mean in less than 12 hours, damn I gotta go to sleep hahah :rofl:

[WaterFlex]

i`m looking forward your bench results, mate ;)

[SuporterPoli]

Any news on the US vs european package content? Do we europeans not get Vantage?

[zsamz_]

This is mine
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9463/motherboarddu3.th.png (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=motherboarddu3.png)

btw thats not 8500 accents :rofl::rofl:

[MGreg]

Any news on the US vs european package content? Do we europeans not get Vantage?

Depends on place of purchase, not all places are doing the vantage promo.

[ahmad]

Depends on place of purchase, not all places are doing the vantage promo.

Hey greg I am trying to get my 996599 stable at 570Mhz, could you give me some tips? I tried all the way to 2.04v but for some reason its just not going.

I have the P5Q-E, 1.26v on NB, 1:1 divider, 5-5-5-18-5-55-auto for everything else.

Tried CPu/nb skew 400/100, tried pll 1.52, 1.54, vtt 1.1-1.26 and I just can't do it. It could be my combination is wrong, I'll have more time tomorrow to tweak. Maybe some advice would make my task less painful.

[zsamz_]

Hey greg I am trying to get my 996599 stable at 570Mhz, could you give me some tips? I tried all the way to 2.04v but for some reason its just not going.

I have the P5Q-E, 1.26v on NB, 1:1 divider, 5-5-5-18-5-55-auto for everything else.

Tried CPu/nb skew 400/100, tried pll 1.52, 1.54, vtt 1.1-1.26 and I just can't do it. It could be my combination is wrong, I'll have more time tomorrow to tweak. Maybe some advice would make my task less painful.

i think you @ the top end of your sticks just start tightening now;)
1142mhz is my max on redline 2.06v real 5-5-5-15-4-52

[MGreg]

Hey greg I am trying to get my 996599 stable at 570Mhz, could you give me some tips? I tried all the way to 2.04v but for some reason its just not going.

I have the P5Q-E, 1.26v on NB, 1:1 divider, 5-5-5-18-5-55-auto for everything else.

Tried CPu/nb skew 400/100, tried pll 1.52, 1.54, vtt 1.1-1.26 and I just can't do it. It could be my combination is wrong, I'll have more time tomorrow to tweak. Maybe some advice would make my task less painful.


Try adjusting more sub timings, like the this bios template below. It may provide further gains. But I found mainly dram clk skews to help over 1100Mhz

AI Overclock tuner: Manual

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advance 50 to advance 300
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 50 to advance 300
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advance 50 to advance 300
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 50 to advance 300
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4-5
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55-60
Write Recovery Time: 5-6
Read to Precharge Time: 3-5

2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): 9-10
Write to Read Delay (S): 3-4
WRITE to READ Delay (D): 5-6
READ to READ Delay (S): 5-6
READ to READ Delay (D): 6
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): 4-5
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): 5-6

3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: 13-14
READ to PRE Delay: 5-6
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: 5-6
ALL PRE to REF Delay: 5-6

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
AI Clock Twister: Lighest - Light
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level: Try 1 higher then current value
All Pull-Ins: Disabled

Use highest values first, as they should provide gains.
Try all the options for dram clk skew, this may help

[ahmad]

i think you @ the top end of your sticks just start tightening now;)
1142mhz is my max on redline 2.06v real 5-5-5-15-4-52

I thought these had different chips? I'll let you know the max soon :)

Try adjusting more sub timings, like the this bios template below. It may provide further gains. But I found mainly dram clk skews to help over 1100Mhz

AI Overclock tuner: Manual

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advance 50 to advance 300
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 50 to advance 300
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advance 50 to advance 300
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 50 to advance 300
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4-5
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 55-60
Write Recovery Time: 5-6
Read to Precharge Time: 3-5

2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): 9-10
Write to Read Delay (S): 3-4
WRITE to READ Delay (D): 5-6
READ to READ Delay (S): 5-6
READ to READ Delay (D): 6
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): 4-5
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): 5-6

3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: 13-14
READ to PRE Delay: 5-6
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: 5-6
ALL PRE to REF Delay: 5-6

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
AI Clock Twister: Lighest - Light
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level: Try 1 higher then current value
All Pull-Ins: Disabled

Use highest values first, as they should provide gains.
Try all the options for dram clk skew, this may help

Right forgot to mention pl, 10 works good, anything higher doesn't seem to improve stability.

[zsamz_]

I thought these had different chips? I'll let you know the max soon :)



Right forgot to mention pl, 10 works good, anything higher doesn't seem to improve stability.

same chips;) just better cooling but a waste cause it dont need them

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

you guys are running PL10 with this ram ???? mine does 1140 PL6 24/7 ... 2.09v

[ahmad]

you guys are running PL10 with this ram ???? mine does 1140 PL6 24/7 ... 2.09v

1:1 is not the same ;)

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

1:1 is not the same ;)

ah i see, well i didnt know that ;)

[zsamz_]

you guys are running PL10 with this ram ???? mine does 1140 PL6 24/7 ... 2.09v

pl8-9 is for 500fsb++

[moogle]

sorry for bumping, but is this good for mushkin ascents running at 950?

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i165/m00gs/bf0f062a.jpg

[18 is # 1]

sorry for bumping, but is this good for mushkin ascents running at 950?


Yeah. But you badly need to raise the divider to 5:6 or 4:5 and OC those puppies.

[moogle]

Yeah. But you badly need to raise the divider to 5:6 or 4:5 and OC those puppies.

They don't OC.. period. I'm on 8GB and these things are the most mean sticks. I'm running PL10 at 950Mhz...

Anything lower and it'll fail to boot. I've tried. Spent a whole day changing settings. I wan't to keep my 4GHz overclock so 950 is what I'll run it at. It's still giving better speeds than 950 so I'm happy. I really shouldn't have gone for these because of the rebate.. :shakes:

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

once you raise the divider you can lower the PL.... I run mine at 4:5 @ 1140 PL6 easily.

try raising your NB volts and set ram volts to 2.14ish then set the PL to 8 and divider to 5:6. this should allow you to boot and the ram will definitely do 1140 mhz stable.

[moogle]

once you raise the divider you can lower the PL.... I run mine at 4:5 @ 1140 PL6 easily.

try raising your NB volts and set ram volts to 2.14ish then set the PL to 8 and divider to 5:6. this should allow you to boot and the ram will definitely do 1140 mhz stable.

NB volts to what? I've gone to 1.55. I'll try but watch me fail to boot :)
You all don't have 8GB so that's why I'm thinking you guys are getting these nice speeds. Until I see someone on 8G with those speeds I don't think I'll be able to do it. Anyway here goes.

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

NB volts to what? I've gone to 1.55. I'll try but watch me fail to boot :)
You all don't have 8GB so that's why I'm thinking you guys are getting these nice speeds. Until I see someone on 8G with those speeds I don't think I'll be able to do it. Anyway here goes.

sorry I don't know what voltages p45 likes, haven't worked with those boards yet :\

[moogle]

sorry I don't know what voltages p45 likes, haven't worked with those boards yet :\

No probs. Well your faith in these sticks have caused them to work, for now. 1128 2.14v, Nb at 1.65v still PL10 though. Seems to be passing HCI Memtest.

Scratch that, as soon as I type seems to be passing, it fails... :rofl:

Life's a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: eh :D

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

No probs. Well your faith in these sticks have caused them to work, for now. 1128 2.14v, Nb at 1.65v still PL10 though. Seems to be passing HCI Memtest.

Scratch that, as soon as I type seems to be passing, it fails... :rofl:

Life's a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: eh :D

well keep playing with it, a lot of times 4 sticks likes to have more ram voltage. (just dont tell mushkin ;))