GPU questions

[The_Barnacle]

As some of you know I've been taking a break for a little while, but I'm back...

I installed the GPU client and it seems to be running fine on a 8800GTS-512. The CPU is a Q6600 @ 3.6Ghz, should I also be running an SMP client or two?

I'm looking at getting graphics cards for the other 3 rigs as well, probably an 8800GT for each. Is there any peformance difference in folding between the 256MB and 512Mb versions?

[The_Barnacle]

I went ahead an ordered an 8800GT 256MB because newegg had it for only $70 ($99 plus a $30 rebate)... If it performs on par with the 512MB version it seems like the cheapest 4000ppd out there at the moment.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

Let us know what ppd you get. I'd be interested to know how well it works. I'd consider buying one for my rig for another 2 monitors, especially for that price.

[MikeB12]

wow, that's a steal!

yeah, run smp's on your quad with it... just check off the setting the the gpu client "slightly higher core priority" so the smp's don't hog the cpu away from the little bit the gpu client needs to turn good ppd.

[The_Barnacle]

Ok I fired up the 2 SMP clients as well and set the GPU client to "slightly higher core priority". The GPU is runnign at the same speed as before so it's all looking good, I'll have to wait a little while to see what kind of progress the SMP clients are making.

[MikeB12]

I predict 8000ppd total machine tally.. :sonic: gpu and 2 smp's...

[The_Barnacle]

Right now my GPU has default clocks as follows...

Geometric Domain - 675Mhz
Shader Domain - 1675Mhz

It's under a water block and reads a constant 45C in Everest under FaH load. Will it get a significant increase in points from overclocking or should I jsut leave it where it is?

[MikeB12]

the shader gives the biggest oc ppd boost... from what I've read... I'm not on any gpu2's atm... I'm still a quad smp'er...

[SparkyJJO]

Oh I see what kind of fire you got cookin' to grill me over :p: :D

Yes like others said do run SMP client with the GPU client.

I must say the nvidia client is really putting out... lol it would be so ironic if this AMD/ATI diehard guy ended up with intel/nvidia :eek: Already gone halfway, to intel/ATI lol

[The_Barnacle]

lol, I saw that you got yourself an Intel rig in the other thread :D

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/7729/putoutbd6.jpg

[SparkyJJO]

ack, close to 8500 PPD.... Heh I guess I won't stay ahead too long then! At least I moved up to 14th place so when you do pass me I'll be back in 15th and it'll look like nothing happened.... :wasntme: http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g270/SparkyJJO/smileys/secret.gif http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g270/SparkyJJO/smileys/silly.gif

[The_Barnacle]

You could always just pick up that $70 8800gt from newegg... :wasntme:

link (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125089)

[SparkyJJO]

gahh don't tempt me! http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g270/SparkyJJO/smileys/willy_nilly.gif

[MikeB12]

that is tempting, I wish my hobby budget wasn't revoked for the next couple months...

[Sir_Loin]

Ah, the only prob with that card is it isn't dual slot. So, the heat must be evacuated from the case by other means. Otherwise, for the price, you can't beat it. :up:

[MikeB12]

I'd probably leave the side off and use a walmart fan. LOL! that's how my folding farm runs all the time anyway.. redneck air...

[xVeinx]

LOL, I picked up a 3870 not too long ago so I'd have something to fold on. Now with the client, I could have stuck with my 8500GT :). Seriously though, I finally pulled the trigger and have an order into Petras, so we'll see how long my card stays at stock:wasntme:...

[SparkyJJO]

stock? what's stock? :shrug: :D

[Polizei]

How are you getting 5100ppd on an 8800gt? I'm getting ~3300 with mine overclocked to 700/1750/2000 core/shader/mem. I'm on the newest beta, priority set to "slightly higher" with that slider bar under it maxxed, and then in Task Manager, I've set the affinity to "Normal" instead of low.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

So the best bang for the buck is the 100 dollar 8800gt on newegg? If I can sell my old folding system (3800+ amd POS), I will fold w/ an 8800gt and 8800gts for epic WUs and ppd!

Btw, I get 5592ppd on my 8800gts thats OC'd. I'd how you get 5100, but that's me.

[The_Barnacle]

How are you getting 5100ppd on an 8800gt? I'm getting ~3300 with mine overclocked to 700/1750/2000 core/shader/mem. I'm on the newest beta, priority set to "slightly higher" with that slider bar under it maxxed, and then in Task Manager, I've set the affinity to "Normal" instead of low.

I'm running an 8800GTS(G92) on my main rig. I ordered the GT today but it hasn't arrived yet...

[The_Barnacle]

So the best bang for the buck is the 100 dollar 8800gt on newegg? If I can sell my old folding system (3800+ amd POS), I will fold w/ an 8800gt and 8800gts for epic WUs and ppd!

Btw, I get 5592ppd on my 8800gts thats OC'd. I'd how you get 5100, but that's me.

I'm not sure, I'll post results when I get it. I haven't been able to find too many benchmarks, but this one says an 8800gt should produce around 4300ppd...

http://www.pcghx.com/?menu=browser&article_id=648270&image_id=841300

[Kingcarcas]

that is tempting, I wish my hobby budget wasn't revoked for the next couple months...
Play the lottery? Go on a Japanese game show? :shrug:

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Courtesy of LegoMan666 from the folding forum.

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/4506/nvidiabycardthenppdyg9.th.gif (http://img354.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nvidiabycardthenppdyg9.gif)
(click thumbnail to get a ppd/gpu overview)

[DAK1640]

I have found that drivers 177.35 yield highest results, although can be a PITA to install depending upon rig. Screeny of my 8800GT's at 680 / 1674

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Yup very true, the newer drivers seem to be more stable though and give less problems on the desktop.

But I'm on the 35's still and I can play Crysis without issues. Desktop lag is sometimes there, video I thought was wurse due to the client but turned out the quality of that flick just sucked.

[DAK1640]

I've never experienced stability probs, and I can play CSS, life is good :up:

[MikeB12]

yeah Barnacle, post some numbers on this card when you get it sorted... I may have to get the secret credit card out if it does good... budget be dammed...

[coo-coo-clocker]

Courtesy of LegoMan666 from the folding forum.

(click thumbnail to get a ppd/gpu overview)
Thanks Marvin, very useful.
I've tried a couple of times to run the GPU2 on the 8600 GT on my folding rig (Q6600 dual SMP) but not seeing the numbers pan out - it was slowing up my SMPs an I was netting a loss. That was with the earlier betas though so let me try this again...

As you've pointed out before, it looks like the Vista boxes are doing considerably better...

[DAK1640]

Don't pass up the Gigabyte 8800GT / 256 at NE for only $99 before MIR...

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Thanks Marvin, very useful.
I've tried a couple of times to run the GPU2 on the 8600 GT on my folding rig (Q6600 dual SMP) but not seeing the numbers pan out - it was slowing up my SMPs an I was netting a loss. That was with the earlier betas though so let me try this again...

As you've pointed out before, it looks like the Vista boxes are doing considerably better...

Well Vista does have another driver model designed to offload the cpu more then the kernel in xp does no matter how many sp you throw at it. Seems this is maybe the first real example of this playing out?

Also, affinities are handeld better on Vista I think. Though it can do allot of good as I just got reminded on the folding forums, got an extra 400ppd by chanching the affinities on those 2665 wu's.

I posted some screens here idk exactly where though :shrug:

I have a net los of about 3% on the smp, and tada... my fahcore_11 takes 3%. 3% of let's make it 2K is peanuts compared to the 4K the gpu can do. Had some time off yesterday, I got to get some better cooling to ease my mind. Though XFX in the eu isn't really moder friendly iirc from reading the recent threads in their support section here. Ashame..

I'm thinking about putting this card in my gf's rig and getting a 120e 8800gt for myself. Though I'm a litle out off budget right now.


I think I just been had btw thought not sure. I was walking home with my son and a guy in a car is driving back and forth, his wife I guess next to him and a kid in the back. Pretty nice car, the expensive type. Anyway, the third time he drives by he notices me looking at him and he pulls over. I walk up to him and ask him if I can help him. At first I think he is looking for a pizzeria, then I think I get something like 'the atm just eat my creditcard and my kid is hungry' and I think about it, could be a scam or could be a hungry kid. He holds out a golden ring and says, I need some money for food so I'll sell you my ring. Now I'm probably to good for this world and tell him to keep the ring and follow me down to road to an atm machine.

Maybe I got to add, once I was backpacking in Spain near La Jonquera and didn't make it to my destination in time so I choose to spend the night out in the open. I think I got lucky, according to the police atleast. If you're a truck driver in europe doing international rides to spain you'll know exactly what I mean. They just stole the one bag which wasn't secured to my body, the bad side was that it held my money, cell phone, my atm cards and most importantly my passport.

Because the local police seemed to think I needed to speak atleast Spanish and preferably Catalan, and at first didn't even believe I was dutch. I did speak a couple of words Spanish but obviously not enough it seemed.

Anyway, making it short, I got the report I needed after 5 days of waiting for them to tell me to go to Girona. And after that, since I was backpacking without an official travel plan, my ambassy told me they could not arrange a trip home for me, but I did need to go to the city I was registerd in to get a new passport :confused: Which in short, ment it was due to the tremendous kindness of some people that I got home.

Not only then, but even before when I was just backpacking and hitching, I seen to much kindness in people to be able to just walk away. Maybe I even have seen to much off the other side in people, and that also drives one to not be the same, idk.

So I take a 20 from my account and give it to him thinking he would be happy. But he then takes his necklace off, gives me a buisiness card with a car dealership on it and a phone number, and asks for a 100 bucks for gasoline so he can drive home, saying the necklace is worth allot more and he will pay me back. I tell him he betting on the wrong horse, I'm a low income guy even those 20 bucks mean allot to me. I'm also getting worried, though it makes sence, German plates german adress german accent ect. But as I'm trying to explain it's allot of money, and it's a risk I can't take with a women and a son, maybe my son would understand but... you know what I mean.

He does act offended because I tell him the chain might be fake, the card might be fake,and I can't take the risk. I try to explain him, that if he had a problem with an atm machine which took their card he can go to the police which was just 300 meters away and they will make some calls aranging it to be possible to make a withdrawl without the card but he either doesn't understand or doesn't want to and I just told em to be glad with the 20 I gave him and take my advice and go to the police if he needed more help. At that time the conversation ends, he thanks me and goes back to his family.

The more I think about it, the more I want to :brick::brick:

On the other hand, there was a language barrier and maybe I misunderstood and he was going to the police. Maybe I should have offerd to go with him, and maybe he drove away laughing about a quick 20 bucks. The car was what made me think it couldn't be a scam, the rest only made it look bad. All the signs, problems communicating to obscure their forcing the conversation a certain way, expensive car to make the right impression, the wife and kid with him. The buisiness card which looked like it's been in a backpocket for a year or to. Trying to up the amount of money and the retreat when the words police are mentioned.

Yeah... :brick:



Sorry for the WALLOFTEXT

Don't pass up the Gigabyte 8800GT / 256 at NE for only $99 before MIR...

Send me one for the money ok? Cheapest here is 120e :(

[MikeB12]

not sure about how gpu affects vista/xp.

but smp: Vista is a little bit slower than xp.. just a tad...


these are the 3 pc's in my sig. running dual smp's all 2665's right now.
the labels are the os's

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Did you try having the 8500gt folding? Think it will do 1k if pushed abit, might take a loss on the smp but I doubt it will be more then you gain. And you could try swapping it with the 8400gs to compare xp vs vista yourself :up: I think you'll see the same as I'm seeing, but who knows it might be not the case.

I also noticed smp is just a tad slower on vista but it's always been more stable for me to.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

Marvin the Martian,

Thanks for posting the list of vid cards. If I sell my current AM2 cruncher, I'll get an 8800gt from newegg, oc it of course, and crunch w/ it, plus have 4 monitors and my WUs & ppd will increase substantially. :D

Its a win win for everyone.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Here is the new list http://rs203.rapidshare.com/files/126783954/scores_nvidia.xls

It's being kept updated at the folding forums by Legoman666, also the clocks in the new lists have been fixed ( some were ddr some true speed ect ).

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=3193&p=36140#p36140

That's the original thread about it, I was thinking about making a mirror thread here but it's not really needed if we keep the links updated I guess.

Looks like I'm still the fastest 9600gt out there, and I'm faster then a 8800gtx ( which is impossible, they must have had driver issues or something ).

But notice again how Vista seems to do better with the gpu2 cuda client?

@Synthetic killer

Yeah indeed, though I hope they will have enough wu's for the onslaught of people wanting to fold on the nvidia cards. They also might drop the ppd when the client comes out off beta, but I'm not sure. Vijah always said the points should represent scientific value, and going from that, quick turnarounds due to the calculations being done a multitude quicker should always mean high points. So gpu folding will stay being more points then cpu. But one should also consider the limited nature of the gpu compared to the cpu, which is why we got the smp and single core clients, to do the work they've always done and which is not able to be ported to any gpu.

Points you ask, get a cheap board and 4 8800gt's, doesn't matter if it's pcie x4 at all so any board will do which has for pcie slots, and looking at the charts again I stay with the vista x64 recommodation since you might get away with a less powerfull cpu because the requirements seem to be lower.

Science you ask? Idk really... I don't want everyone to give up cpu folding, though on the other hand, I was thinking about something like it. Hard choiche.

On a personal not, for me I don't care how many ppd you produce either way. There is more to a project then points being awarded, and someone who's in this for the right reason will know what I mean.

[[XC] riptide]

Nice Excel sheet. At least my card is in the same ballpark as the same models listed. :)

[SparkyJJO]

I believe there was something a little bit ago that they were going to adjust points to align with the science, so the more points you do will always correlate to more science being done. This I think will be a good thing once they implement it, as it will help them out and make more people happy :)

BTW, I remember hearing something about the intel quads and affinity adjustment and boosting performance. I can't remember what it was all about. Seeing as I'm on a Q6600 now, this might be helpful. I'm looking for it but does anyone have any info about it? http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g270/SparkyJJO/smileys/myhijacked2.gif

[MikeB12]

I'm a weak weak man! :slapass:

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7923/86722120gm9.jpg


problem is, I need 2 more to go in the other 2 pc's..

[SparkyJJO]

so barnacle's temptation to me ended up sweeping you in instead huh? :rofl:

[The_Barnacle]

:D

[jedi hand wave]Sparky, your resistance is failing...[/jedi hand wave]

[The_Barnacle]

problem is, I need 2 more to go in the other 2 pc's..

Yup I need 2 more as well. I would have picked up 3 but the rebate's only good for one.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

Exactly. For my situation, I need another card (well, i want one, 2 monitors is NOT ENOUGH!) and I need to pay off a tv I bought (silly me 40" lcds ain't cheap), so if I can sell my old set up for 300, I can pay 200 on the tv and 70 on the card (30 in limbo since there's a rebate, but who knows with that). GPUv2 better fits my lifestyle if that makes any sense. If this computer was in another room, i'd let it run smp & GPUv2 constantly, but thats not an option right now. Plus I use it for school and work and also entertainment, so I can't keep the CPU chocked all the time.

This quad will eventually do SMP later on in its life, but not now.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Damn you guys I'm not able to upgrade for a long time I think, so my current ppd is about as good as it will get from me. Up till now only lowrez is appearing on the wrong side of my overtake list, and it will take em 9 months, but I'm looking forward into seeing allot off you pop up there pretty soon. And some off the guys who I had above me and who looked like easy prey, suddenly are pulling away again. Can't say I really doslike it though :wtf:

Sparky they single key to manual setting affinity is gving the thread with the largest memory load the highest priority, eg it needs a dedicated core. All other ( intensive ) processes have to set a mask to ignore that core, depending on if you got a gpu client just bind each thread to a single core, the largest not taking core 0 as I think that's where the scheduler put's thread on default so it's the on getting taxed doing the browing ect on the desktop.

[SparkyJJO]

If you're worried about slowdowns on the SMP, I don't notice any, even on my old socket 939 opteron there wasn't one to really speak of.

Barnacle... :p:
I'm on a budget, I really shouldn't buy any more... school bill is coming due in a month and is going to run me a few $K :(

Marvin, thanks for the info. I stuck the largest mem usage one on core 2, and the others randomly on 0, 1, and 3, with the least usage one (which is only by a couple MB really) on core 0. We'll see what that gets me.

[The_Barnacle]

Yeah, keep your priorities in line. :up: It's all fun and games until someone loses an education...

[SparkyJJO]

Yeah, keep your priorities in line. :up: It's all fun and games until someone loses an education...

Next year though, next may I'm done with school :D Although after that, then I'm still going to be paying for an apartment (later house I'm sure but start small), utilities, internet, and school loan payments, so I have this feeling I really won't have that much more dough to play with, heh. Always works that way, income level goes up and the bills go up to match it http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g270/SparkyJJO/smileys/icon_neutral.gif

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Sparky most off the time the increased bills are a sign of an increased spending pattern. That does not allways apply to a folding addict, who rather buys moar hardware then turn up the heat in the winter and then when summer comes and most people got their fridges cooling beer, got his wide open trying to help the ac keeps the ambient just low enough that it doesn't mess up his oc.

Allright that didn't come out exactly how I wanted but you get the picture :up:

Sometimes I whish I could go back and fall in love... which led the house and the kid.. still a tough choiche, bunch off quad gpu folding rigs or the kiddo.

Think I'm lucky to have the kid, so I'll keep em ( unless someone proposes a trade? Blue eyes blond hair, worth a pretty penny I'm sure ) :D

Btw, every time I look at that team graph it seems it's getting steeper and steeper :shock:

Way to fold entire team! :wtf:

[The_Barnacle]

I downloaded rivatuner and started messing around with overclocking a little bit.

domain default OC
Core 675 760
Shader 1675 1884

Time per frame dropped from 1:23 to 1:14 but GPU temps didn't change at all (it's under a water block). How far can these GPUs be pushed?

[Marvin_The_Martian]

I think core is already looking pretty nice, but he shaders ( unlinked ) can be pushed higher. Thing is, don't run it to much oc'd as the stability needed for fah and what we percieve as stability is something diffrent. Also, the client should report issues but this is all beta remember so it might not work 100% and by pushing things to far you can do more damage then good. What mem on your card btw?

And no I don't mean you should run stock ( though VP might disagree ) but be abit conservative. I'm running about C50/S125/M200mhz below what I can loop Vantage with ( advanced edition came with the card ) so something I would normally consider rock solid.

Edit: and what project is that frame time for ( as reference ).

[The_Barnacle]

I left the mem at default as I'm pretty sure that won't effect FaH at all. The increase in PPD was exactly porportional to my OC, supporting the theory that memory clock is not a bottle neck. I'm actually kinda tempted to under clock the memory...

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Ram clocks don't matter I asked what mem meaning what ic's ;) Though those old quimonda batches are gone now right ;)

And if you unlink core and shader clocks, it's the shaders which matter the most ( though this is primeraly an observation made by looking at the spreadsheet from legoman, seeing only one guy with close to my ppd on certain projects, and he runs allot lower core but much higher shaders. I didn't test ppd that much, I just looked for max core speed first, then unlinked the shaders to see if they could go up ( or where the limiting factor ) and they did. Haven't done more then 1900 on my ram while I seen much higher clocks on benches here on xs, I don't think they will last long as they did not like 2ghz at all ( artifacting in seconds ).

[SparkyJJO]

Sparky most off the time the increased bills are a sign of an increased spending pattern. That does not allways apply to a folding addict, who rather buys moar hardware then turn up the heat in the winter and then when summer comes and most people got their fridges cooling beer, got his wide open trying to help the ac keeps the ambient just low enough that it doesn't mess up his oc.

Well increased spending pattern is true, gas prices are higher, college bills are higher, have a car payment now, have had to put money into repairing said car, food bills, then like I said, on my own I'm going to be paying rent and utilities... heh looks bright for my upgrade future :lol2:

Not worried about it really, the job that it looks like I have a very very good chance of having when I graduate pays decently enough so I should do OK :)

But what's this about turning up the heat? Turn the central heat off, build more PCs! :D:D

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Are you kidding it's summer here livingroom reached 30c today :/ I need to put my ac on but the misus won't let me due to the bill..

And because I don't need need to, but I do want to...

[SparkyJJO]

Are you kidding it's summer here livingroom reached 30c today :/ I need to put my ac on but the misus won't let me due to the bill..

And because I don't need need to, but I do want to...

Well I meant in the winter. In the winter in the dorm room at school I'll have my window open an inch or so all the time otherwise the room gets really hot really fast lol.

[[XC] riptide]

Sparky... you need to live with me for a while. 4 quads, and 2 dual cores, with X1900 + 8800 GTX running... . When outside is 14C like now, inside is 28C. Heat hasn't been on in about 6 months, and the window is permanently open. All day. Big window, about 2x5 ft. open. Thigs get rather crazy on a good day when the summer temps hit 22C ... then its Crematoria

[SparkyJJO]

riptide;3116996']Sparky... you need to live with me for a while. 4 quads, and 2 dual cores, with X1900 + 8800 GTX running... . When outside is 14C like now, inside is 28C. Heat hasn't been on in about 6 months, and the window is permanently open. All day. Big window, about 2x5 ft. open. Thigs get rather crazy on a good day when the summer temps hit 22C ... then its Crematoria

I know about heat, in the dorms they don't turn the AC on until the beginning of May but typically in April the temperature is up 40s and 50s F (between 5 and 10 C for you :p:) sometimes hitting 60 even (~15C) it gets really warm. I don't have a thermometer in the room but I'm sure that one day I was sweating just sitting in the room it had to be upper 80's F at least (close to 30C). It's warm, but I put up with it, and so do the crunchers! Ultimate stability test to see if they can stand the heat :D

[[XC] riptide]

Well.. you're from Ohio... so you should be used to the suffereing.

Thats a cool Motto. "Burning Up for Team XS and Science.":up:

[MikalCarbine]

Sorry to jack the thread, but I am running the GPU client on my 3870 on the rig in my sig, is it possible to run an smp client on one of the cores and let the other core do the GPU client along with the 3870?

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Yeah should be possible but you will have to balance affinity yourself ( or use some off the tools for it, Set Affinity is one I heard about recently which is reported to work well http://www.geocities.com/edgemeal_software/SetAffinity/index.htm ).

FYI you don't run the smp on one core though, you'll probably want to run the gpu and the least memory using smp thread on one and the other 3 smp threads on the other ( though I might be wrong, idk exactly how your cpu usage from the gpu client is ).

You need to have the most memory consuming smp thread preferably not on the same core on the gpu client ( as I heard the Ati client is a cpu hogger.

[The_Barnacle]

I'm not sure about ATI but my setup hardly uses any CPU power, so yeah I would go ahead and run an SMP core. No need to confine it to one core, just set the priority on the GPU client to a little bit higher and it will take what it needs from the SMP client.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Barnacle the Ati client is a whole diffrent beast ( as it is a real cpu hog atm, inheritance from CAL/Brook being cpu intensive compared to CUDA ).

[MikalCarbine]

I only have a dual core, so should I not even be running an SMP with this setup? Just GPU and a single CPU but set the affinity?

[coo-coo-clocker]

I'm not sure about ATI but my setup hardly uses any CPU power, so yeah I would go ahead and run an SMP core. No need to confine it to one core, just set the priority on the GPU client to a little bit higher and it will take what it needs from the SMP client.

yeah, but which O/S you running? GPU2 on my 32-bit XP Pro uses 50% of my dual core CPU. Ouch.

[The_Barnacle]

Wow, I'm using Vista64, I had no idea the variance was so large between Operating Systems.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

I only have a dual core, so should I not even be running an SMP with this setup? Just GPU and a single CPU but set the affinity?

You could run smp and gpu2 client ( nvidia atleast ati idk lol ). Just like I said, the smp doesn't handle affinities that well on it's own and without user intervention running smp and gpu2 will run into issues I guess. I you're not able or willing to constantly monitor and correct when needed, like you said the gpu and single cpu client is the way to go.

yeah, but which O/S you running? GPU2 on my 32-bit XP Pro uses 50% of my dual core CPU. Ouch.

Wow, I'm using Vista64, I had no idea the variance was so large between Operating Systems.

:welcome: seems you just found out :D

Been saying this for ages :up:

[MikalCarbine]

I'm on XP so I have that 50% usage also, I figured it was normal, weird that vista doesn't experience that.

Currently I am running the GPU client and the v6 beta CPU client (non smp). I have the GPU client set to affinity 0 with high priority in the options and the CPU client to affinity 1 with low priority. FahMon reports my gpu client with a 2272ppd but my cpu client has 212, that doesn't seem right ?? :down:

[ThunderDuck]

I'm running a 3850 with SMP on an E8400 @ 3.6. I lost about 700ppd on the 3850 but gained 1200ppd with the smp. OS is XP32 bit

[Marvin_The_Martian]

I'm on XP so I have that 50% usage also, I figured it was normal, weird that vista doesn't experience that.

Currently I am running the GPU client and the v6 beta CPU client (non smp). I have the GPU client set to affinity 0 with high priority in the options and the CPU client to affinity 1 with low priority. FahMon reports my gpu client with a 2272ppd but my cpu client has 212, that doesn't seem right ?? :down:

Single cpu client get's nothing compared to the smp and gpu clients, don't worry. Your still doing valuable work for the project and team. Like I said I don't have an ati so I can't try, but if you indeed have just one core to spare you can't run anything else then single cpu client so why worry if you're doing everything you can :up:

I'm running a 3850 with SMP on an E8400 @ 3.6. I lost about 700ppd on the 3850 but gained 1200ppd with the smp. OS is XP32 bit

According to thunderduck you could run both though :confused:

Thunderduck can you post a ss with taskman showing the diffrent cpu usages for the fah processes and maybe fahmon ect in the image? I'm curieus in how it's balanced, and in how much user intervention is needed ( or if you're letting a 3rd party tool set affinities )? You're the first on my Radar, in going to over run me I mean :wtf: :up:

[DAK1640]

I can run 8800GT & SMP on same quad cores without issues...Confirmed on 4 rigs:up:

[coo-coo-clocker]

Which O/S DAK?

[DAK1640]

XP32...sorry, forgot to mention that, I also have 15 instances of Dimes on each rig (VMware). I am using 177.35 drivers :up:

[ThunderDuck]

@MtM
I'll try and post some ss at lunch if not it wont be till I get home tonight.

[ThunderDuck]

X3350 w/88gts(G90)
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk78/xThunderDuckx/3350gts.jpg
E6850 w/88gtx
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk78/xThunderDuckx/6850gtx.jpg
E8400 w/3850
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk78/xThunderDuckx/E84003850.jpg
Totals
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk78/xThunderDuckx/FHMaster.jpg

[Marvin_The_Martian]

1st shot taskman is to small can't see cpu usage and memory usage just as on the second. On the Ati one I can read and see something which would run better if you correct it. The fahcore_a1.exe with the largest memory usage is also the 'heaviest' thread and you should try and have it run more then the other 3 threads ( give it a higher priority. ) Think your ppd on the smp will change for the better.

And WOW, that ati card really hogs your whole cpu... :( Even if Ati's ppd compared to Nvidia goes up, I don't think I like the cpu overhead since I could put together a dedicated cruncher for less money if I don't have to worry that much about cpu power.

[Kingcarcas]

Looks like i'll be getting a GTX260 for my b-day :D Kudos to ATI for bringing the competition :up: The 260 consumes about 40W less than the 4870, yet yields 5000 more PPD. :shrug: 896mb to 512mb, slower in games but it's faster than my 3870 (16*10). You guys have shown Nvidia cards aren't as CPU dependent. :yepp: