Official Nvidia Multi-core Support...

[WFO]

With core 1.07. :yepp: Download in first post of first link.

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=3689

http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=3692

[SparkyJJO]

This will make a lot of people happy!

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

This is great news.

Now I need a 9800gx2. Any one in a giving mood? lol

[coo-coo-clocker]

The egg is in a giving mood - there's a rebate!

BFG Tech BFGE981024GX2E GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143128)

http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-143-128-08.jpg

[Lowrez]

How bout this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133217

[mstp2009]

Just FYI to Vista users out there - due to limitations in the OS itself, you MUST have a 2nd monitor with the OS extended to it to be able to fold on the 2nd GPU.

[SparkyJJO]

Just FYI to Vista users out there - due to limitations in the OS itself, you MUST have a 2nd monitor with the OS extended to it to be able to fold on the 2nd GPU.

Oh that's weird. Only vista, not XP too? Huh....

So what happens if you only have one monitor like probably a good many do? :(

[The_Barnacle]

What is it looking for? I wonder if we can just rig up a termination plug to trick it into thinking a monitor is hooked up...

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

The egg is in a giving mood - there's a rebate!

BFG Tech BFGE981024GX2E GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143128)

http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-143-128-08.jpg

Newegg has a PNY and FAK2 (never heard of that company), both are 390 w/ MIR. The pny is 420 before and the FAK2 is 440 before.

Its not a BFG, but damn the price is a hell of a lot better.

[The_Barnacle]

So these things produce over 10k ppd with one card???

That's just disgusting...

[lowfat]

is this just for 9800GX2's or for all SLI users?

EDIT: i r a dumbass who didn't see the 2nd thread posted :p:

[Marvin_The_Martian]

is this just for 9800GX2's or for all SLI users?

EDIT: i r a dumbass who didn't see the 2nd thread posted :p:

I don't think it's your fault, their more threads which wouldn't mind a merger I think.

Now, who's the first XS's to break 10K from one rig?

[The_Barnacle]

Just FYI to Vista users out there - due to limitations in the OS itself, you MUST have a 2nd monitor with the OS extended to it to be able to fold on the 2nd GPU.

I found this over on hardforums, details how to make a termination plug...
http://soerennielsen.dk/mod/VGAdummy/index_en.php

[angra]

OK, how do I get 1.07? I tried deleting my .exe files, work directory and queue.dat, and it downloaded 1.06 anew.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Then you're probably not using the latest client? Only latest client can use the newest core, you can just download the newest beta and install it over the existing one and it will work ( atleast it should, did for me ).

[angra]

I think I have latest client but I will double check after current WU's finish.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

I had the same issue ;) Dl the core, dl the same one twice couldn't figure it out so I looked around it seems only beta can run the 1.07 core so you need to make sure you're updated.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

When is the WU due Angra?

[WFO]

OK, how do I get 1.07? I tried deleting my .exe files, work directory and queue.dat, and it downloaded 1.06 anew.


http://www.stanford.edu/~friedrim/FahCore_11.exe

[angra]

Thanks - I downloaded the executable and dropped it into my work directories before I left the lab last night...seems to run, but my score returns seem to paint the picture of the WUs not being accepted or scored...I may roll back to 1.06 as everything was running fine then.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Can you post the log files please Angra, or send me in pm. If something is wrong it should be posted at the folding forums asap.

[angra]

I will post logs when I get to the lab this AM :). Pester me if I don't remember.... I didn't see anything horribly wrong, but if you click on me at the stats site, and look at my 3-hour returns, you'll see some big gaps with no scores, and the score/WU ratio seems to be consistent with only my SMP and i386 linux nodes scoring.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

People reported EUE with that core if you have the wrong client version, the log will show if that's true if not then it's something else either way it has to be fixed ( we don't want our top guy loosing production ey :up: ).

You know I often am not really aware off the time diffrences when I'm on a forum ( unless I read a new post with a reference to a time ).

Gues I have to say Goodmorning Angra :)

Maybe FAH could use a Goodmorning thread like WCG has ( as just a contious thread to post lil tidbits in and just have some fun ) :up:

[NaMcO]

Seems to be working well on my 9800GX2, it should submit a result soon. I'll update this post with what happened in a bit. It's doing 2500 or so iter/sec.

[WFO]

I will post logs when I get to the lab this AM :). Pester me if I don't remember.... I didn't see anything horribly wrong, but if you click on me at the stats site, and look at my 3-hour returns, you'll see some big gaps with no scores, and the score/WU ratio seems to be consistent with only my SMP and i386 linux nodes scoring.


There was a glitch last night. Don't know if it was EOC or Stanford. No individual results were scored for a 6 hour period. ;) I posted at EOC at 17:00 last night. Things were normal on the 22:00 update. :)

Edit: Core 1.07 does seem more susceptible to interference from other clients. On my quad with a Linux SMP (vmware) and a standard client, I had to check the box to not lock it to a single core and create the environmental variable allowing it to run correctly. HTH.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Seems to be working well on my 9800GX2, it should submit a result soon. I'll update this post with what happened in a bit. It's doing 2500 or so iter/sec.

You running one or two clients?

:welcome: to team XSfah btw :up:

[NaMcO]

I am running one client, is that the speed it's supposed to attain? I basically got the GPU client and was using that one till now, then replaced the EXE, added the environment variable (NV_FAH_CPU_AFFINITY=3), rebooted and noticed both cores are being used now as both increased in temperature.

Last result was submitted successfully (apparently).

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

I might be getting an 8800gt 256 mb or two (the 70 dollar one from the egg) as payment for moving some furniture. I have an 8800gts in my system right now and its not an nvidia board. Any issues? I tried DLing the multicore release and it wouldn't install. Couldn't find a specific dll file.

Anyone have any experience w/ separate video cards, non-sli?

[NaMcO]

You need to install the regular release and only replace the .EXE inside the F@H folder. Then setup the required environment variable, reboot, and you're all set :up:

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

Thanks! :up:

Now I am just considering what I should get, two 8800gt's or one better card. I'm thinking for the cash, the two cards will produce the most PPD. I'd have one running 24/7 and another running w/ my current card about 12 hours a day. I'd be producing about 7k or 8k ppd w/ that set up.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

I am running one client, is that the speed it's supposed to attain? I basically got the GPU client and was using that one till now, then replaced the EXE, added the environment variable (NV_FAH_CPU_AFFINITY=3), rebooted and noticed both cores are being used now as both increased in temperature.

Last result was submitted successfully (apparently).

Install FAHMON (http://fahmon.net/), it's a nice tool which keeps records to ;)


Now I am just considering what I should get, two 8800gt's or one better card. I'm thinking for the cash, the two cards will produce the most PPD. I'd have one running 24/7 and another running w/ my current card about 12 hours a day. I'd be producing about 7k or 8k ppd w/ that set up.


How long will they have to last? How long will Nvidia keep their point lead this significantly? Both questions I do not know ;)

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

Marvin, I must ask, I can get both cards for 170 bucks. Anything better for PPD? I can always run a nice card on my slow computer and a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty card on my current computer (I NEED 4 monitors, yes, need, its required!) that I can also fold on.

I won't get these cards anytime soon (not for another month), but hey, I want to plan it out and the beer is compelling me to ask!

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Let's just talk hw here. How many sp's does the Ati have? What clocks do they run? Now for Nvidia? See the diffrence? Now take into consideration, nvidia been folding SMALL wu's, which it seems to do exceptionally well. The beta wu's which are double the size, cause a 10% hit on a 112sp 8800gt presently, and a 30+% hit on my 64sp 9600gt. Btw, even this double size wu only takes ~70mb off your cards ram, so I think we're fine for the comming time with 256mb cards. But on the core issues. Ati is known to do well with larger wu's, they need the extra load to have maximum efficiency. Basicly, I'm not sure myself but I'm betting on Nvidia still for the short to mid term, coming months still maybe but if you buy gpu's once a couple off years, I'd wait. You'll loose a :banana::banana::banana::banana:load off point now, but what if Mike Houston does get the Ati side tweaked to perfection, with it's architecture and programming both working together in tandem I think you'll be able to make up for it in time.

I'm going to be honest to, I do not know one way or the other for certain, if I did, wouldn't you tink I'd be a much richer man right now ;)

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

I will wait till everything is finalized. I can always buy a 4850 (assuming it will beat my 8800gts @ 1920x1200) and a cheap ATI card that'll do video full screen, fold on those two and retire my current card to my amd computer to fold on that 24/7.

I want answers and I want them now! lol

BTW, want a beer? Oh wait, I only have one left. Hey, I have a little vodka.

Back to the topic, is there any time line for a final version or at least some release that'll give us a general idea of which card is better for ppd in general? Like you said, EVERY WU counts, so it doesn't matter the size although we need people doing all times of crunching.

Thanks :up:

[Marvin_The_Martian]

I wonder the same things as you killer, and rest assured they know we worry about it. They can't really afford to come out now and say things, as their not even sure themselfs. Their doing in lab testing no one but them knows about, if you get one off those people drunk, you might get somewhere quicker then with me lol ( btw, thanks I don't really drink but I'll take a shot now thank you! )

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

I wonder the same things as you killer, and rest assured they know we worry about it. They can't really afford to come out now and say things, as their not even sure themselfs. Their doing in lab testing no one but them knows about, if you get one off those people drunk, you might get somewhere quicker then with me lol ( btw, thanks I don't really drink but I'll take a shot now thank you! )

This'll be HUGE news when someone finally figures out what is the best card to buy for folding.

Can't beat some form of alcohol now and again. I rarely get to drink (training prohibits me since it impairs my recovery time tremendously), so last night was probably the 2nd time this year I've had alcohol. I'd rather spend money on video cards. 30 USD for good vodka gets expensive quick. Three bottles and I'm already at another card to fold on.

If I had cash (who hasn't said that before :yepp:?) I'd probably dump four 9800gx2's on an AMD board w/ a quad and run that 24/7.

Btw, whats the max ppd you're getting from any one machine?

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Single smp and 9600gt on one machine net's up between 4K and 6K depending on which projects I'm running. I only have two running rigs atm, my main one and the one I built for the missus which is a E6600 which is doing smp. Problem is it's an Asrock board whith I945 chipset doesn't do a mhz more then 299fsb. Gpu does 4K normally, but some larger wu's cause slowdown in production, like I said I made a mistake with this card. It games almost as good as a 8800gt but it doesn't keep up with folding if the number of atoms goes up.

The last time I had a shot was with a bud who I had to share some Krupnic with ;) You're finish I think so you don't know, but ask a polisch person and they'll know.. Since I rarely consume alchohol, the one time I do even a single shot glass has effect on me, but even then I only do it because it's the best damn vodka I know.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

Did you try to OC your 9600gt?

Right now, I might consider still getting the 8800gt or 8800gs (65 USD is a great price) since I need another video card anyways and its cheap. I'll hold off on any big purchases after that.