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[XC] Synthetickiller
06-28-2008, 04:48 PM
For those of us (mainly me) too timid to build a chiller from an AC unit, what about this:
http://i27.tinypic.com/1zsl54.jpg
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3578+4900+13130&pcatid=13130
Is this a good idea or just better to get an in line chiller instead? After reading camouflage's thread about his chiller, I found this type and thought it was worth asking about.
I don't know much about chiller liquid cooling and I've only done a simple H2O loop, so please don't flame.
philbrown23
06-28-2008, 05:12 PM
thats kinda cool looking! I didnt know there was a place that made them, I thought you had to custom build.
Movieman
06-28-2008, 05:31 PM
These have been around for a long time.
I remember in the mid 90's I had a salt water tank and we got a heat spell that would kill the fish. I looked into these but they were huge money back then. Sealed bags of ice bailed me out..:D
[XC] Synthetickiller
06-28-2008, 05:54 PM
I know that it says 60 - 80 degrees, but is there any way to drop the temps a bit more or if I'm only chilling 8 gallons, will the temp drop into the 50s or even 40s F?
Edit:
This thing is a beast. the 1/4 hp model elminates 3926 BTUs of heat. That equates to 1150 watts! You could cool multiple loops w/ this bad boy!
teyber
06-28-2008, 08:48 PM
or you could buy one from a builder that would far exceed that performance...
karl_eller
06-29-2008, 04:56 AM
or you could buy one from a builder that would far exceed that performance...
The problem is that not everybody has a friendly builder nearby who can make one for you, and getting one shipped in from overseas can be a huge pain in the ass. Where as buying one of these locally could be a much more viable option.
Eller
[XC] mysticmerlin
06-29-2008, 06:15 AM
I know that it says 60 - 80 degrees, but is there any way to drop the temps a bit more or if I'm only chilling 8 gallons, will the temp drop into the 50s or even 40s F?
You can track down the temp probe and put it behind the condencer or the hot side of the compressor to trick it into running the compressor all the time thus making it go colder.
KaptCrunch
06-29-2008, 07:40 AM
Synthetickiller, the inline 1/10 is the best for hassles and wallet, but 1,485 btu's is to small for 8 gals would only keep room temp after time. 3500 btu's need to insulate for condensation, 6000btu's need to use anti-freeze or denatual alchol
[XC] Synthetickiller
06-29-2008, 08:30 AM
or you could buy one from a builder that would far exceed that performance...
Like karl_eller said, I don't know how to build one and honestly, I don't have the time to figure that out. A pre-built chiller is the way to go for me until I hae more free time.
mysticmerlin;3100760']You can track down the temp probe and put it behind the condencer or the hot side of the compressor to trick it into running the compressor all the time thus making it go colder.
This is another good idea, although I was going for what camouflage did: run the chiller then shut it off.
Synthetickiller, the inline 1/10 is the best for hassles and wallet, but 1,485 btu's is to small for 8 gals would only keep room temp after time. 3500 btu's need to insulate for condensation, 6000btu's need to use anti-freeze or denatual alchol
Like I mentioned to mysticmerlin, check out camouflage's thread. Thats my idea. I am not looking for any insane cooling where I need to insulate the entire loop. I just want to drop the temps enough that I can use a fan to flow air on the heatblocks to avoid condensation.
There's a 200 dollar difference, but if the drop in chiller is that much more efficient and sturdier, I'd spend that much. I'd end up adding denaturued alcohol if needed as well, but that might be TOO cold.
I'm trying to get ideas now for when I build a nehalem system in a few years to replace my q6600. I want to run the cpu, nb, & gpu in a single loop and this seems to be the best way since I would not have to run the chiller 24/7, plus I could turn it off when the system is idle.
Removing 1150 watts of heat is overkill, but the chiller would run much less time. A 1485 but chiller would removed 435 watts which is probably more than enough for those three components. I'm looking for something extreme without an extreme electrical bill. :p: Thats why I want a set up where the chiller turns off once a certain temp has been met. 10 C would be FINE considering the ambient is about 22-24C and any colder might produce condensation that would collect even w/ good circulation in the case.
[XC] Synthetickiller
06-29-2008, 08:37 AM
So this would be more ideal, KaptCrunch?
http://i25.tinypic.com/efqe80.jpg
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3578+4900+13113&pcatid=13113
Its $355 vs $590 and I know 235 can go a long ways towards a CPU, ram, or video card.
teyber
06-29-2008, 10:36 AM
are you looking for sub zero temps or just an improvement over regular air?
im saying if you got a chiller from, say, jinu, dimas, et cetera, you could get sub-zero temps with good capacity...
[XC] Synthetickiller
06-29-2008, 11:21 AM
Just looking for below ambient, nothing that requires an additive so that freezing won't occur. Keeping the CPU 60 - 80F would be ideal.
I guess just the 1485btu chiller is ideal?
KaptCrunch
06-29-2008, 01:11 PM
that would put you in the ball park for what you want, need a good pump for the inline setup don't have a pump, thats why the power outlet on rear of unit
1 WATT = 3.413 BTU/Hr so figure your Q6600 = 95watts heat load then multiply by 3.413 = 324 btu's
plus the 8 gal of fluid to cool also
[XC] Synthetickiller
06-29-2008, 02:44 PM
My current quad is around 200 watts, so that's about 682.5 BTUs, that leaves about 800 BTUs to cool the NB and GPU. Looking at how much heat a GPU drops, I might want to consider a slightly larger chiller.
[ShowMe!]
07-20-2008, 02:50 AM
For those of us (mainly me) too timid to build a chiller from an AC unit, what about this:
http://i27.tinypic.com/1zsl54.jpg
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3578+4900+13130&pcatid=13130
Is this a good idea or just better to get an in line chiller instead? After reading camouflage's thread about his chiller, I found this type and thought it was worth asking about.
I don't know much about chiller liquid cooling and I've only done a simple H2O loop, so please don't flame.
EPIC FAIL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dont do the same mistake I made, dont get a 1/3 hp chiller!!!
Its way to weak.
1HP min...
[XC] MarioMaster
07-20-2008, 09:15 AM
1HP? are you nuts? not only is that a huge power drain but 5200 btu can cool my entire room and that only has a 1/2hp compressor
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