Diamond HD4870 3Dmark06 Default and OC tests

[guess2098]

Diamond HD4870 3Dmark06 tests


Diamond HD4870 Retail Card, Nice black packaging
http://www.iax-tech.com/video/4870/01.jpg


Front and Back of the Card. only one side have GDDR5 which mean 1GB version will have GDDR5 in BOTH side
http://www.iax-tech.com/video/4870/02.jpg http://www.iax-tech.com/video/4870/03.jpg


2 slots means 2 6pin LOL
http://www.iax-tech.com/video/4870/04.jpg http://www.iax-tech.com/video/4870/05.jpg


55nm RV770 and Qimonda GDDR5
http://www.iax-tech.com/video/4870/06.jpg http://www.iax-tech.com/video/4870/07.jpg



3Dmark06 Default
QX9650 4G, Asus P5Q Deluxe, GSKILL DDR2 1200 4GBPI
Diamond HD4870 750/900
http://www.iax-tech.com/video/4870/4870_06.png


3Dmark06 Tweaked
QX9650 4G, Asus P5Q Deluxe, GSKILL DDR2 1200 4GBPI
Diamond HD4870 750/900
http://www.iax-tech.com/video/4870/4870_06_t.png


3Dmark06 Tweaked + 4870 OC
QX9650 4G, Asus P5Q Deluxe, GSKILL DDR2 1200 4GBPI
Diamond HD4870 790/1100
http://www.iax-tech.com/video/4870/4870_06_t_oc.png




Flash to my home made custom bios
enable to 1000/1200 overclock
running at 850MHz Core, 1100MHz Memory
3DMARK2001
http://www.iax-tech.com/video/4870/diamond4870_oc_01.PNG






3DMark03
http://www.iax-tech.com/video/4870/diamond4870_oc_03.PNG







3Dmark05
http://www.iax-tech.com/video/4870/diamond4870_oc_05.PNG






3Dmark06
http://www.iax-tech.com/video/4870/diamond4870_oc_06.PNG

[emoners]

makes me wanna do the bios thing, but i don't wanna risk killing my card.

nice results! :up:

[guess2098]

makes me wanna do the bios thing, but i don't wanna risk killing my card.

nice results! :up:
that bios thing enable CCC oc to 900mhz for core and 1400mhz for mem...

[boblemagnifique]

that bios thing enable CCC oc to 900mhz for core and 1400mhz for mem...

what is the bios use please ? are you a link at give ? thank :)

[quake6]

What did you tweak in 3D Mark 06? 1400 more points? :) That is awsome,I got max 200 points from tweaking

[a1k]

What did you tweak in 3D Mark 06? 1400 more points? :) That is awsome,I got max 200 points from tweaking

Same question :)
pretty gfx, nice results!

[hecktic]

can you run CF with HD4870 or even Quad CF ??

[CraptacularOne]

can you run CF with HD4870 or even Quad CF ??

Why wouldn't he be able to run CF? All he or anyone needs is multiple HD4870's and it will work fine.


Nice scores Denny :up: It's too bad you killed your new toy so soon, as I would have loved to see what you were getting in 05 and 03 at those speeds :(

[keninishna]

damn I didn't even think you could kill a card from just clocking the memory too high. No voltmod?

[BooStFeD]

that bios thing enable CCC oc to 900mhz for core and 1400mhz for mem...


Nice scores and results. Sorry about the card.

Tell us more about this bios plz :D

[guess2098]

for 3Dmark06 tweak, you need to change the setting of CCC and also the LOD

i hope i have 2 cards so i can do CF.. now i don't even have 1 lol

no vmod, it just died, 1200 x4 = 4800. maybe i really overclock too high.. becareful on those GDDR5


for bios question, i am sorry i can talk about any detail of that in here

[boblemagnifique]

for 3Dmark06 tweak, you need to change the setting of CCC and also the LOD

i hope i have 2 cards so i can do CF.. now i don't even have 1 lol

no vmod, it just died, 1200 x4 = 4800. maybe i really overclock too high.. becareful on those GDDR5


for bios question, i am sorry i can talk about any detail of that in here

And the P.M , it's possible ? :rolleyes:

[quake6]

for 3Dmark06 tweak, you need to change the setting of CCC and also the LOD

Can you be more precise,~2k points is a lot :)

[overcrash]

Can you be more precise,~2k points is a lot :)

I would like to know the tweaks as well :)

[guess2098]

no problem. show you guys later tonight

[keiths]

Thought I'd ask; Looking for those with 4870s to bench something at 625 GPU and stock memory for 4850/4870 GPU vs memory comparison: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=192690 Been using games and settings used by the 4870 reviews in order to compare.

[Sav]

guess2098, the 4870 is very nice;)
What's your fsb on cpu?

[Mad Maverick]

Hey Guys,

My good friend will get a pair of cards on Tuesday. So don't feel too bad. For all you curious guys out there that have a burning sensation to push your HD 4870 cards just a little faster, here is a custom bios from my engineering team.

COPY THIS URL TO WEB BROWSER

http://www.letbuyonline.com/HD4870512MBOC765-915MhzBootableCD.iso

to download bootable ISO file…



1) Burn the ISO "HD4870512MBOC765-915MhzBootableCD.iso” with your favorite burner software

2) Restart your PC and make sure the “boot sequence” for the bios setting set correctly in order for CD-Rom to boot

3) After booted to MS-DOS mode at command prompt change directory to your CD-Rom Letter Drive “cd d:”

4) Type flash

1) Wait for a confirmation message then restart your PC but don’t forget to send us an e-mail for the result. Thanks!

[gurusan]

3dmark tweaks? wtf?

[dragonavenger]

4800Mhz :confused::confused::confused:

http://www.fpslabs.com/news/latest/gddr5-to-show-up-in-next-graphics-refresh%3Cbr




;)

[George_o/c]

Wow, great card :), although I wanted to see more benchmarks :(
I'm sorry about your 4870 m8, but don't worry, I'm sure that next one is going to be even better ;) :)


3dmark tweaks? wtf?

Don't tell me you didn't know they existed ... :D Every 3D Mark has some tweaks, that's about drivers, specific LOD values, windows tweaking etc, etc ;)

[dinos22]

wow 2000 points by tweaking '06
what did you do lol :)

[Lightman]

wow 2000 points by tweaking '06
what did you do lol :)

He sign a pact with DEVIL :devil:

Back on topic:

I'm getting HD4870 but I'm waiting for 1GB version this round :)
Looking at 4850 volt-mod results it looks like >1GHz core on 4870 with Air/Water should be easy and hopefully 1.2-1.4GHz on something colder in proper hands :D.

@guess2098: When you're getting next cards?? Can't wait to see some more action!! :up:

[Lu(ky]

Press Release Diamond Releases Radeon HD 4870 XOC Unlocked Black Edition
Diamond Multimedia (www.diamondmm.com), a leading manufacturer of PC graphics cards, sound cards and communications products, launched today along with boutique system builder Smoothcreations, and Water cooling mavens, Danger Den the ATI Radeon™ HD 4870 XOC Black Edition graphics card. This card offers exquisite gaming capabilities combined with state of the art efficiency.

The HD 4870 is a smoking gun dual slot card, PCIE 2.0, with 512MB of DDR5 memory and a clock speed of 800 MHz. The memory speed is 1100 MHz and is designed with 800 stream processors. The HD 4870 provides plug-and-play ATI CrossFireX™ upgradeability with up to quad-GPU support. Continuing with ATI’s Power Play and 55nm processing technology, this card is the fastest and efficient. “The Diamond Radeon HD 4870 XOC Black Edition was clocked to kick some ass”. We didn’t just want a fast card out in the market, we wanted the fastest card that could kick the living daylights and bust some performance records, say Mario Gastelum, Director of Product Development & Engineering. “we wanted a card that kicked the competitions teeth into the curb”, and that’s exactly what our engineers accomplished”. “The firmware was custom designed to enable end users to go beyond the normal over clocked speeds and allow them to push their cards for higher performance via the catalyst control center.” The GPU’s custom firmware has been unlocked to push cards to GPU settings of up to 950 MHz and Memory of up 1200 MHz.

Diamond Teamed up with Premier Boutique system builder, SmoothCreations, to offer these powerful graphics cards to Smoothcreations legendary beauty and performance pc system platforms. “We wanted to complement beauty, artisan craftsmanship, and performance power to a gaming system, and Diamond helped us accomplish that”, says Jim Saling, CEO of SmoothCreations. In collaboration with Danger Den, Smoothcreations will be offering a water cooled edition as well.

All Diamond video cards carry the Diamond guarantee of quality assurance. Unlike many cards that are simply first to market, Diamond carefully tests and retests every new model for its ratio of performance to reliability. Diamond is legendary in the PC video card business for its less than 1 percent return rate. Diamond cards use superior connectors, cables and components, as well as undergo more thorough testing for heat susceptibility and durability.

Availability
Diamond Multimedia’s ATI Radeon HD 4870 XOC Black Edition will be available for purchase starting July 01, 2008 and will be available Exclusively at Premier Boutique System Builder Smoothcreations.

S O U R C E (http://www.techpowerup.com/64301/Diamond_Releases_Radeon_HD_4870_XOC_Unlocked_Black _Edition.html?64301)

[XCheater]

Press Release Diamond Releases Radeon HD 4870 XOC Unlocked Black Edition
Diamond Multimedia (www.diamondmm.com), a leading manufacturer of PC graphics cards, sound cards and communications products, launched today along with boutique system builder Smoothcreations, and Water cooling mavens, Danger Den the ATI Radeon™ HD 4870 XOC Black Edition graphics card. This card offers exquisite gaming capabilities combined with state of the art efficiency.

The HD 4870 is a smoking gun dual slot card, PCIE 2.0, with 512MB of DDR5 memory and a clock speed of 800 MHz. The memory speed is 1100 MHz and is designed with 800 stream processors. The HD 4870 provides plug-and-play ATI CrossFireX™ upgradeability with up to quad-GPU support. Continuing with ATI’s Power Play and 55nm processing technology, this card is the fastest and efficient. “The Diamond Radeon HD 4870 XOC Black Edition was clocked to kick some ass”. We didn’t just want a fast card out in the market, we wanted the fastest card that could kick the living daylights and bust some performance records, say Mario Gastelum, Director of Product Development & Engineering. “we wanted a card that kicked the competitions teeth into the curb”, and that’s exactly what our engineers accomplished”. “The firmware was custom designed to enable end users to go beyond the normal over clocked speeds and allow them to push their cards for higher performance via the catalyst control center.” The GPU’s custom firmware has been unlocked to push cards to GPU settings of up to 950 MHz and Memory of up 1200 MHz.

Diamond Teamed up with Premier Boutique system builder, SmoothCreations, to offer these powerful graphics cards to Smoothcreations legendary beauty and performance pc system platforms. “We wanted to complement beauty, artisan craftsmanship, and performance power to a gaming system, and Diamond helped us accomplish that”, says Jim Saling, CEO of SmoothCreations. In collaboration with Danger Den, Smoothcreations will be offering a water cooled edition as well.

All Diamond video cards carry the Diamond guarantee of quality assurance. Unlike many cards that are simply first to market, Diamond carefully tests and retests every new model for its ratio of performance to reliability. Diamond is legendary in the PC video card business for its less than 1 percent return rate. Diamond cards use superior connectors, cables and components, as well as undergo more thorough testing for heat susceptibility and durability.

Availability
Diamond Multimedia’s ATI Radeon HD 4870 XOC Black Edition will be available for purchase starting July 01, 2008 and will be available Exclusively at Premier Boutique System Builder Smoothcreations.

S O U R C E (http://www.techpowerup.com/64301/Diamond_Releases_Radeon_HD_4870_XOC_Unlocked_Black _Edition.html?64301)

this one will definitely kick 280GTX out from the top :yepp:

[M3kk]

no problem. show you guys later tonight

When? :)

[jVIDIA]

guess2098, are you using the new GSkill 8800PI 2x2GB ? ;)

Does babes hit 1200MHz easy and stable ?

[STEvil]

Guess2098 there's some new info out about flashing 4870's. Might want to flash your card using a new bios (Wizzard probably has it uploaded on his site) and see if it un-bricks.

EDIT

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/152

There's the info

[joshua7]

He didn't talk about the 'tweaks' after all...

[Lu(ky]

He didn't talk about the 'tweaks' after all...


I assume he has a GPU’s custom firmware has been unlocked to push cards to GPU settings of up to 950 MHz and Memory of up 1200 MHz. I could be wrong I am sure he will be back to tell his little secret to us... :cool:

[jVIDIA]

That bios could have something to do with this ? http://www.techpowerup.com/64301/Diamond_Releases_Radeon_HD_4870_XOC_Unlocked_Black _Edition.html

[joshua7]

I assume he has a GPU’s custom firmware has been unlocked to push cards to GPU settings of up to 950 MHz and Memory of up 1200 MHz. I could be wrong I am sure he will be back to tell his little secret to us... :cool:

That would be a cheat, wouldn't it? :)
I just can't imagine, how to gain 1000-2000 points with the help of 'tweaks'. But I'll gladly listen to the explanation. :)

[Miwo]

I assume he has a GPU’s custom firmware has been unlocked to push cards to GPU settings of up to 950 MHz and Memory of up 1200 MHz. I could be wrong I am sure he will be back to tell his little secret to us... :cool:

It seems to be custom bios by Diamond. They are dubbing it "Black Edition" because its unlocked to 950/1200 :)

linky:
Diamond Releases Radeon HD 4870 XOC Unlocked Black Edition
http://www.techpowerup.com/64301/Diamond_Releases_Radeon_HD_4870_XOC_Unlocked_Black _Edition.html

@guess - It sounds like you never flashed your bios and it died from RAM abuse , but have you tried the 4870 Flash Fix @ TPU?

[Lu(ky]

I am sure one of you guys on here will make a special FIRMWARE for the 4870's. Please hurry I get my new HIS 4870 and G Skill on Tuesday..

[Me1tDown]

Seeing as he has one run labeled "3Dmark06 Tweaked" and another labeled "3Dmark06 Tweaked + 4870 OC", I would assume that the tweaks are not simply overclocking the card. Maybe some LOD trick?

[quake6]

Yeah,but even with LOD it seems too much

[intel101]

any updates on your 3D mark progress, any 3D vantage scores on single card would be appreciated.

[guess2098]

my 4870 not yet return, i need to wait til it return to post more. sorry guys

[Lu(ky]

my 4870 not yet return, i need to wait til it return to post more. sorry guys

I think they are interested in your 2000 point secret with 3MARK06???

[guess2098]

I think they are interested in your 2000 point secret with 3MARK06???
not able to show without a card

[haya_gann]

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7166/3dm06dq0.jpg

M2F＋HD4870CF

[JamesBong420]

:eek: 19k 06....... :up::D


is there any real way to do LOD for ati and 3dm06? atitool works for them all BUT 3dm06.. :p:

[TheKarmakazi]

Yeah most Ive gotten from tweaking 06 with LOD and windows tweaks was MAYBE 800-1k points. I would love to see your methods :D

[JamesBong420]

what i mean is atitool LOD does nothing for 3dmark 06 for ati cards... if you use an nvidia card and use rivatuner and mess with LOD, you actually notice it change the LOD(3dm06).

could help me/everyone gain a few extra hundred points with ati cards..

[jVIDIA]

What is LOD ? :p:

[quake6]

Level of Detail
You can use ATI Tool and Riva Tuner for adjusting LODs

[jVIDIA]

Thanks :up:

[mr2sw21]

hey guys somehow mine is a lot worse than I expected. What's wrong?

[sunken123]

hey guys somehow mine is a lot worse than I expected. What's wrong?

i think your getting bottleneck by your low cpu speed but i could be wroung..

[quake6]

Probably you are CPU bounded...Try again with 3ghz cpu

[Mad Maverick]

let us know how you do in crossfire....I hope you like our new cards.

[Earzz]

Yeah get your CPU speed up, im getting 14689 in 3DMARK06 all on stock speeds.
If i have the time this weekend i will give it a run on 4 Ghz.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=7325414

[vengance_01]

I am thinking of getting a 4870 and do some testing. I can get one for under 300$ if bestbuy has them in stock.

[mr2sw21]

I am thinking of getting a 4870 and do some testing. I can get one for under 300$ if bestbuy has them in stock.

they are selling at fry's for 249.99 combo with a esc mobo(but you can throw that away though)

[mr2sw21]

Yeah get your CPU speed up, im getting 14689 in 3DMARK06 all on stock speeds.
If i have the time this weekend i will give it a run on 4 Ghz.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=7325414

what is the stable voltage for the cpu, nb and sb for 3.2? and should I enable the "always max out the cpu box"?

[mr2sw21]

for 3Dmark06 tweak, you need to change the setting of CCC and also the LOD

i hope i have 2 cards so i can do CF.. now i don't even have 1 lol

no vmod, it just died, 1200 x4 = 4800. maybe i really overclock too high.. becareful on those GDDR5


for bios question, i am sorry i can talk about any detail of that in here

can you please P.M. me what u did in ccc and LOD casue your stock tweak (the card itself) alot faster than mine already. What is LOD by the way?

[v0dka]

A LOD value would be very appreciated. Everything else would be welcomed as well ofcourse. :D

[iTravis]

I would like to know this tweak as well, 2k gain is pretty impressive. Somebody PM me pls. :D

[aldamon]

Marked for later.

[ymer]

This thing is a beast for the price

[TheKarmakazi]

I assume the CCC tweaks he speaking of is setting mipmap to performance, and theres a couple other settings your can set to performace also that will give small boosts.

[ymer]

I assume the CCC tweaks he speaking of is setting mipmap to performance, and theres a couple other settings your can set to performace also that will give small boosts.

Such as..?

[v0dka]

Such as..?

Just look at your control panel you will see. Only one not so obvious maybe is the disable catalyst AI.

[intel101]

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7166/3dm06dq0.jpg

M2F＋HD4870CF

Your score would be even higher using X48 as pci-express link is
16/16x when crossfire enabled.

Maximus II Formula is 8/8x link.

[biohead]

Your score would be even higher using X48

not true. sigh, it why does it always take so long for bad info to have really disappeared.

[intel101]

not true. sigh, it why does it always take so long for bad info to have really disappeared.

I bet it is true compare 4870s in crossfire 3d mk 06.

26100K P45 at 790/1100 qx9650 @ 5ghz ddr2 1200 CL4 - Asus Max II Formula
27200K X48 at 790/1100 qx9650 @ 5ghz ddr3 1800 CL7 - Asus P5E64 EVO

Estimated about 1000 points loss right there and about 8-9K in 03.
Already did compares so please dont say not true.

P45 8/8x link in crossfire
X48 16/16x link in crossfire

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1472/intel_p45_vs_x48_crossfire_performance/index.html

[biohead]

I bet it is true compare 4870s in crossfire 3d mk 06.

26100K P45 at 790/1100 qx9650 @ 5ghz ddr2 1200 CL4 - Asus Max II Formula
27200K X48 at 790/1100 qx9650 @ 5ghz ddr3 1800 CL7 - Asus P5E64 EVO

Estimated about 1000 points loss right there and about 8-9K in 03.
Already did compares so please dont say not true.

P45 8/8x link in crossfire
X48 16/16x link in crossfire

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1472/intel_p45_vs_x48_crossfire_performance/index.html

the tweaktown review is erroneous. look at the crysis numbers. this was discussed a while back, i know what you're talking about. ask hardwarecanucks review editor SKYMTL.


This in itself is very hard to do. Let me explain.

Due to the different natures of the P45 and boards with X38 / X48 chipsets it is almost impossible to have a completely even playing field. Heck even when testing boards WITH THE SAME CHIPSET there will be differences in gaming performance. I will draw your attention to a few articles:

Techreport's X48 Showdown (See ET: EQ benches) (http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/14598/7)

Bit Tech's Multi GPU benches with the Gigabyte P45 DQ6 (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/06/18/gigabyte-ga-ep45-dq6/12)

OC3D's P45 Showdown (http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?/cpu_mainboard/p45_showdown_-_asus_p5q_deluxe_vs_msi_p45_diamond/12)

Not only are there performance differences between X48 and X38 (basically the same chipset) when equipped with similar hardware but there are even VERY large differences between P45 boards when it comes to performance. We aren't talking about 1-2%, more like 10-20% difference in some cases.

So, the question begs to be asked: in a Crossfire vs Crossfire review between the X38 / X48 and the P45, how do we know that the performance (or lack thereof) of the motherboard itself and NOT the PCI-E bandwidth is being brought to the forefront? The simple answer is that there is really no way to know unless there are MASSIVE differences in performance.

Writing a review of Crossfire performance between two motherboards with different chipsets, getting results that are within 5-10% difference between the two products and then saying that there is a bottleneck is a stretch at best. That is why I look at some preformance results and take them with a grain of salt.

Will a P45 bottleneck a pair of HD4870 cards? Heck no.

[intel101]

ok, i understand.
But what about the point loss in 3D 03 and 06.
Losing almost 1K in 06 and over 8K in 03 is substantial loss m8. ;)

[biohead]

ok, i understand.
But what about the point loss in 3D 03 and 06.
Losing almost 1K in 06 and over 8K in 03 is substantial loss m8. ;)

i know. different platforms, not due to pcie bandwidth. some mainboards just suck compared to others =)

[XCheater]

So after just about 3 weeks getting Q6600, I need to upgrade to Q9450 and OCing it to 3.6GHz to get a proper power to feed those new ATI cards?
Oh it really sucks

[Brick]

Awesome, ,aybe I should get one of those instead of a standard..?

[Szlobi]

Lol Nice Tweaking.:D My 3DMark 06 record:http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu/view/080712/3DMark06_4.4GHz_GPU_790__RAM_1100_www.kepfeltoltes .hu_.jpg The gpu does only 790MHz maximally.:(

[Benji Tshi]

Wow, what about theses tweaks ? i know lod, but even at +15, i can't believe it will increase fot 1-1.5k pts !

How do you do this ? :clap:

[M3kk]

no problem. show you guys later tonight

WHEN?!?!

[sea_man]

Yes.. also i´m waiting for the LOD tutorial...!!!

Thanks.

[Tjalve]

Wow, what about theses tweaks ? i know lod, but even at +15, i can't believe it will increase fot 1-1.5k pts !

How do you do this ? :clap:

I dont know any way to get +15 on ATI cards. The most is +10 and thats with ATI Tray Tools. I would like to see thees tweaks aswell.

[joshua7]

He never came up with anything after all..lol..cheater...:down: