View Full Version : Q9650 ES First look
NaeKuh
06-26-2008, 12:07 PM
I dont know if anyone has posted a Q9650.
I got the chip today on loan. :up:
Right i just dropped it in for a DOA test.
I'll do the torture test this weekend.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/Capture.jpg
Sorry EIST and Speedstep is on. :\
Leeghoofd
06-26-2008, 12:12 PM
so is it Q9650 now or Q9645 ?
NaeKuh
06-26-2008, 12:13 PM
so is it Q9650 now or Q9645 ?
its the Q9650
Thats what the person who gave me chip to me said. :T
But its a yorkie with a 9x multi, thats suposed to be right below the QX processor.
bonku
06-26-2008, 12:29 PM
i want it to be in the 250 USD price range
FUGGER
06-26-2008, 12:32 PM
Stepping A
Thats an old chip, nice find.
Leeghoofd
06-26-2008, 12:34 PM
i want it to be in the 250 USD price range
Lol dream on , maybe mid 2009 somewhere, realistically more 500 region when released
NaeKuh
06-26-2008, 01:02 PM
Lol dream on , maybe mid 2009 somewhere, realistically more 500 region when released
i believe the lot1k said somewhere around 550 dollars.
Heh.. weekend looking to be fun. :up:
Stepping A
Thats an old chip, nice find.
:D
im trying to get victor DDTung one on "loan" as well. :T
systemviper
06-26-2008, 01:05 PM
Stepping A
Thats an old chip, nice find.
Are the older chips the better ones?
Thanks for posting your results, love to see what it can do!
NaeKuh
06-26-2008, 01:22 PM
Are the older chips the better ones?
Thanks for posting your results, love to see what it can do!
this i would love to know.
But i will find out this weekend. :rofl:
EDIT:
I threw it on this bench.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/IMG_1123.jpg
I think the 780i will hold me back. I might need to bring my spare dfi x38 out of its box. I dont have much faith in the 780i.
But right now she's holding 3.6ghz @ 1.2Vcore. I'll go for a min 4.0ghz windows boot test, and then take a snap shot.
But this is all inital tinkering. I'll do the whole synthetic test this weekend on stock and 4.0ghz.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/Capture2.jpg
Heres hoping she scores near my QX.
NaeKuh
06-26-2008, 03:40 PM
Heres some more playing with. She's on OCCT now at this setting:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/Capture3.jpg
systemviper
06-26-2008, 03:42 PM
i LOVE THE dd TORTURE RACK, SO EASY TO PLUG AND PLAY,
SWEEt SETUP NaeKuh
crazy1323
06-26-2008, 04:14 PM
Wow, Is it stable at 4 Ghz and 1.328v. If so I am saying screw the QX9650 and go with this for $500 less. I seems like the QX 9650 really hits a wall at about 4 Ghz unless on sub-zero cooling.
What are your temps like?
NaeKuh
06-26-2008, 04:21 PM
I seems like the QX 9650 really hits a wall at about 4 Ghz unless on sub-zero cooling.
What are your temps like?
nah, you just got a bad chip :P
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/Wprime.jpg
I dont know whose better tho. Still more testing is needed. :T
Anyhow update:
she failed occt. The 780i has a bad vdroop. im looking at 1.4V bios, and its loading at 1.32Vcore.
i think i'll do a pencil mod this weekend and see if i can mirror my QX clock per voltage. :T
crazy1323
06-26-2008, 04:23 PM
nah, you just got a bad chip :P
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/Wprime.jpg
I dont know whose better tho. Still more testing is needed. :T
Granted there will be some who get chips that OC better. I have seen a Q6600 stable at 4Ghz and 1.4 volts.
However it seems on average, most people are able to push the QX yorkies to about 4 Ghz.
jcool
06-26-2008, 04:24 PM
Care to sell me that QX, since you now got the extra special? I guess my SS unit would love it :D
road-runner
06-26-2008, 04:29 PM
This is what mine takes for prime OCCT Stable
crazy1323
06-26-2008, 04:36 PM
Just be careful with that many volts on a 45nm chip.
crazy, what's the VID on each of those chips ?
Darkatom
06-26-2008, 05:00 PM
I really hope these chips reach higher average overclocks comapred to the q9450 and q9550.
road-runner
06-26-2008, 05:10 PM
Just be careful with that many volts on a 45nm chip.
Its degrading and has been, I just had to reduce it to 4Ghz to be stable a minute ago. I am about ready to set it on 2v and be done with it...
NaeKuh
06-26-2008, 05:38 PM
i dont push any yorkie past 1.4Vcore. :T
road-runner
06-26-2008, 05:39 PM
i dont push any yorkie past 1.4Vcore. :T
If I dont my Q6600s OC better than the york fields. Makes me feel cheated...
crazy1323
06-26-2008, 06:21 PM
crazy, what's the VID on each of those chips ?
I dont have a QX9650. I am thinking about getting one but I am now thinking about just getting a Q9650.
I have a Q6600 GO which was a crappy overclocker with a 1.325 VID. It is at 3.8 Ghz with 1.55V (1.42 in CPU-Z).
ah i thought that screenie of the qx9650 doing 4.2ghz @ 1.39 was yours... bummer, looks like a nice one :)
you can see the vid of the ES q9650 though, right?
Shadowthor
06-26-2008, 08:24 PM
nice overclock, probably be more than $500.
NaeKuh
06-27-2008, 07:58 AM
ah i thought that screenie of the qx9650 doing 4.2ghz @ 1.39 was yours... bummer, looks like a nice one :)
you can see the vid of the ES q9650 though, right?
Vid on realtemp reports it as a crappy vid.
1.250V :P
Funny cuz my Q6600 ES has a vid of 1.275
My QX has a vid of 1.025 :X
Anyhow this weekend, i'll edit the first post and add all the synthetics.
im gonna bench this chip at
3.0 (stock)
3.6
4.0
:T
crazy1323
06-27-2008, 02:50 PM
If this chip can get to 4.0 Ghz stable on a 45nm Yorkie for $550 it might be the greatest CPU (bang for the buck) since the Q6600 G0
If this chip can get to 4.0 Ghz stable on a 45nm Yorkie for $550 it might be the greatest CPU (bang for the buck) since the Q6600 G0
:ROTF:
There's no bang for buck @ $550.
Maybe if you're regularly spending 1K on a CPU ;)
Nice results though aigomorla...err NaeKuh.
crazy1323
06-27-2008, 03:35 PM
:ROTF:
There's no bang for buck @ $550.
Maybe if you're regularly spending 1K on a CPU ;)
Nice results though aigomorla...err NaeKuh.
I would say it is for sure better than $1100 for a QX9650. Remember that that Q6600 was about $550-$600 when it first came out.
NaeKuh
06-28-2008, 09:55 AM
:ROTF:
There's no bang for buck @ $550.
Maybe if you're regularly spending 1K on a CPU ;)
Nice results though aigomorla...err NaeKuh.
:rofl:
ima have to sig this. :rofl:
guys im benching her @ stock right now. Be back with results.
Also i hope 1 hour OCCT is enough. I really dont have time to do 7h+ primes at those three clocks. And im taking ambients at sink intake with ifx using a yate low speed fan.
Just finished the first stress test:
Stock settings: Ambients taken at 28.7C
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/Capture-Stock.jpg
got impatient, waited for temp max to hit.
Anyhow going to 3dmark.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/3dmark06.jpg
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Now i need to do the x264 benchmark. :T
Results for x264.exe v0.58.747
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encoded 1442 frames, 17.99 fps, 3952.85 kb/s
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Results for x264.exe v0.59.819M
encoded 1442 frames, 64.96 fps, 3891.55 kb/s
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encoded 1442 frames, 64.55 fps, 3891.55 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 65.23 fps, 3891.55 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 20.05 fps, 3963.43 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 20.10 fps, 3963.44 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 20.08 fps, 3963.43 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 20.12 fps, 3963.43 kb/s
System Details
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Name Intel Core 2 Quad
Codename Yorkfield
Specification (Engineering Sample)
Core Stepping
Technology 45 nm
Stock frequency 3000 MHz
Core Speed 3000.0 MHz (9.0 x 333.3 MHz)
FID range 6.0x - 9.0x
Northbridge NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI SPP rev. A2
Southbridge NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI MCP rev. A3
CAS# 4.0
RAS# to CAS# 4
RAS# Precharge 4
Cycle Time (tRAS) 8
Command Rate 1T
Memory Frequency 333.3 MHz (1:1)
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 2046 MBytes
Channels Dual
Windows Version Microsoft Windows Vista (6.0) Ultimate Edition Service Pack 1
max VID 1.250 V
Voltage sensor 0 1.14 Volts [0x8E] (CPU VCORE)
Number of processors 1
Number of threads 4
Number of threads 4 (max 4)
L2 cache 2 x 6144 KBytes, 24-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, EM64T
Package Socket 775 LGA (platform ID = 4h)
Temperature sensor 0 44°C (111°F) [0x2C] (SYSTIN)
Temperature sensor 1 51°C (123°F) [0x66] (CPUTIN)
Temperature sensor 2 37°C (98°F) [0x4A] (AUXTIN)
Temperature sensor 0 50°C (121°F) [0x37] (core #0)
Temperature sensor 1 50°C (121°F) [0x37] (core #1)
Temperature sensor 2 48°C (118°F) [0x39] (core #2)
Temperature sensor 3 49°C (120°F) [0x38] (core #3)
Temperature sensor 0 43°C (109°F) [0x2B] (GPU Core)
Temperature sensor 0 48°C (118°F) [0x30] (GPU Core)
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Doing SuperPI now: 32m is a PITA.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/SuperPI.jpg
wPrime to come:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/wPrime-1.jpg
That finishes stock. I'll do Max FSB and 3.6 after a little break.
NaeKuh
06-29-2008, 09:56 AM
3.6 benches coming out.
Stability and Max Temp, also 3dMark: Ambients recorded at 27.3C
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/36benches.jpg
Edit: uhh unclewebb why does realtemp report the wrong mhz?!?!?
Starting on x264 and Super Pi
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Results for x264.exe v0.58.747
encoded 1442 frames, 69.08 fps, 3904.67 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 69.34 fps, 3904.67 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 61.91 fps, 3904.67 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 69.60 fps, 3904.67 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.48 fps, 3952.97 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 20.94 fps, 3952.97 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.48 fps, 3952.97 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 21.39 fps, 3952.97 kb/s
Results for x264.exe v0.59.819M
encoded 1442 frames, 72.67 fps, 3891.55 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 72.84 fps, 3891.55 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 72.50 fps, 3891.55 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 72.55 fps, 3891.55 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 23.93 fps, 3963.43 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 23.98 fps, 3963.43 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 24.03 fps, 3963.43 kb/s
encoded 1442 frames, 23.95 fps, 3963.42 kb/s
System Details
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Name Intel Core 2 Quad
Codename Yorkfield
Specification (Engineering Sample)
Core Stepping
Technology 45 nm
Stock frequency 3000 MHz
Core Speed 3600.1 MHz (9.0 x 400.0 MHz)
FID range 6.0x - 9.0x
Northbridge NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI SPP rev. A2
Southbridge NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI MCP rev. A3
CAS# 4.0
RAS# to CAS# 4
RAS# Precharge 4
Cycle Time (tRAS) 8
Command Rate 2T
Memory Frequency 400.0 MHz (1:1)
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 2046 MBytes
Channels Dual
Windows Version Microsoft Windows Vista (6.0) Ultimate Edition Service Pack 1
max VID 1.250 V
Voltage sensor 0 1.22 Volts [0x99] (CPU VCORE)
Number of processors 1
Number of threads 4
Number of threads 4 (max 4)
L2 cache 2 x 6144 KBytes, 24-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, EM64T
Package Socket 775 LGA (platform ID = 4h)
Temperature sensor 0 54°C (129°F) [0x36] (SYSTIN)
Temperature sensor 1 58°C (135°F) [0x73] (CPUTIN)
Temperature sensor 2 38°C (100°F) [0x4C] (AUXTIN)
Temperature sensor 0 57°C (134°F) [0x30] (core #0)
Temperature sensor 1 57°C (134°F) [0x30] (core #1)
Temperature sensor 2 56°C (132°F) [0x31] (core #2)
Temperature sensor 3 58°C (136°F) [0x2F] (core #3)
Temperature sensor 0 45°C (112°F) [0x2D] (GPU Core)
Temperature sensor 0 46°C (114°F) [0x2E] (GPU Core)
^^^^^^^^^^^
SuperPI to come.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/superpi36.jpg
Finishes 3.6, going to 4.0
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