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Bobly
06-25-2008, 04:20 PM
Hey guys,

I've been looking around for a new case to go with my new system which I'll probably buy in September and came across the Thermaltake Armor+. I've read loads of reviews and I really like it. Nice big side fan (230mm), front intake, dual bottom intake, rear exhaust, top exhaust, one VGA fan, loads of space and all fan slots are either 120mm or 140mm.

(Review with loads of pics here: http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1209&pageID=4292)

Anyway, I took at look at the Thermaltake website and saw they're planning on releasing the same box with an inbuilt liquid cooling system. Having never modified my hardware before and thinking of going with liquid cooling it seemed quite interesting to get a case that was designed with that in mind and already comes with the pump, reservoir ect.

The main reason I'm thinking of going with water-cooling is to cut out the GPU fan which according to most reviewers in the new GPUs is similar to a jet engine. Eyes currently on the BFG or EVGA water-cooled cards which should come out in a couple of weeks.

My only worry is whether or not I will be able to add a component to the loop as the LCS is pre-integrated. Does that simply mean that the LCS components are fixed inside the case or that the tubing ect. is fixed and cannot be modified to include another component? (Also, will the stock cooling system be able to also pump water through the GPU? I wouldn't see one extra component as a problem but I thought I'd ask :))

Info about the case here: http://thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?S=1248&ID=1480



Edit: Ignore all my questions, just downloaded the user manual and it's quite obvious it's simply the case that comes with the LCS system.
Any thoughts on whether this could be a viable option compared to building one separately?

jdrom
06-25-2008, 05:07 PM
I think I speak for everyone on here when I saw Thermaltake watercooling is crap.

There's no point in buying a pre-made setup like that. It's much, much better to piece it all out yourself (or with the help of the users on here). That way you'll get high quality components along with lower temperatures.

zanzabar
06-25-2008, 05:17 PM
if u want a basicly intergraded system look at a swift tech 2 fan and a cm690 and yate slim 120mm fans

just never buy koolance or TT they are bad and made of aluminum in most applications


and look here to price and look at the parts, petras has most things and good pics
http://www.petrastechshop.com/

WoZZeR999
06-25-2008, 05:35 PM
Koolance is getting better, most of their products are good design, but they use ALU. Once they have everything converted to brass, they should be considered as a viable product again.

Waterlogged
06-25-2008, 08:06 PM
Looks like I'm going to have to bring back an old sig of mine. Maybe I have to permasig it. :shrug:

Friends don't let friends use Thermaltake.

skinnee
06-25-2008, 08:23 PM
I will say that the front panel (door thing) holds an MCR320 perfectly with Yates. You'll have to replace all the tubing, pump and blocks. I found a Kandalf LCS front panel on ebay for cheap. Went on my secondary (Original TT Armor) machine and works just fine holding a Swifty.

Pellepel
06-25-2008, 08:59 PM
I have the TT Armor case. Its pretty nice I like it! its cheap, exceptional room if your going with 1 GPU. It actually was an upgrade to my MM. I'm thinking of building it with new parts. I don't really want it to sit there and collect dust :p: I'll probably put a single loop with CPU+GPU. Thinking of maybe mid range system?:shrug:.

But yea I would avoid kits, do some research, because there are some individual cooling parts out there that performs way better than kits. Most have been tested, critiques, and should allow you to give a better judgment on your decisions. You won't regret it :up:.

septim
06-25-2008, 09:25 PM
that is avoid Thermaltake and Koolance kits...

Swiftec Kits are generally approved of, and is the base line of most approved kits we recommend...
Just tweak a few options: (highest to lowest priority)
1. CPU block to any Favorites as of now,
2. mcr220 to a bigger mcr320 for some OC and heat headroom,
3. and then tubing to whichever brand you'd prefer,
4. and those shiny High Flow barbs of whichever brand you'd prefer...
5. mcres-micro is a good reservoir, you may opt to use other brands or a T-line
6. pump mcp655 vario is a good performer, you may also change to mcp355 with after market top to be more efficient and use 1/2 barbs...

Bobly
06-26-2008, 02:01 AM
Hehe it looks like assembling it myself is going to be the way to go then ;)

I'll stay still with the Armor+ case though simply because I've looked around for ages and it simply fits everything I was trying to incorporate in a case but I'll get the other components myself :) Thanks for the feedback guys ^^

Okies that's the end of this thread, lock/let it die please :)