CSX DDR3 arrived: Diablo 2000MHz & CEC 1333MHz kits first look

[Achill3uS]

so ive got last week some CSX DDR3 memorys for testing, but only for a really fast session after work (1 day), next time i will spent much more time with this babys :)

test setup:

Intel E8500 watercooled
Asus P5E3 Premium (last final bios, black slots)
Zotac 8400GS
WD Raptor 36GB
Ultra X3 1000W

some photos about the memorys only, boxing is not finished yet...

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6986/02gl9.jpg

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4779/01rd3.jpg

and the "stock" clocks 2000MHz 8-8-8-24 1T 1.90v @ 32M
this result was memtest86+ stable of course, and 1800MHz 7-7-7-20 1T 1.90v also :eek:

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3553/2000cl832mkt4.png

and the cheaper CEC 1333MHz blue kit... the big surprise :D

[no photo taken]

2000MHz 9-9-9-24 2.0v @ 32M and max validation at 2.10v around 1090mhz!
my csx contact told me its coming with samsung ic's, for ~100 euro this 2*1GB kit could be amazing entrance for daily users to DDR3 :)

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4014/2000cl932mad0.png

and an other "sorry part" :(
my partition was gone with all of the valids :S so this week was not mine, i will get back the memorys soon and make a normal test not only a pre-view...
regards,
bala

[Kasparz]

Hello!
This is new SPD for this kit you are testing, might be great if you test 1866Mhz and 2GHz 8-7-6 XMP profiles on X48 board.
If people are curious about packaging, there are few pictures.
http://www.bildez.lv/foto/kasparz/d3
CEC 1333MHz kit in picture have Qimonda 10F.

P.S. I realized, you're testing old D9JNL kits. There will be only D9GTR and maybe D9GTS Diablo kits. And you might check, if its old CEC kit, it migth have D9JNL in it too. Heatspreaders for CEC aren't glued on.

[Achill3uS]

Hello!
This is new SPD for this kit you are testing, might be great if you test 1866Mhz and 2GHz 8-7-6 XMP profiles on X48 board.

Thank you, i will if i get back this kits :)

[Miravo]

Very nice results and very good memory ;) Micron D9 DDR3 is pure fun. I have Goodram 2x2 GB "D9 JNM" which do 1000 MHz 8-8-8-24 @ 1.8v spi32m / memtest stable :D Soon in retail kits ;]

[saaya]

the fact that it runs 2ghz cas8 and 1800 cas7 isnt really amazing, come on, show us some real numbers! :D
the value kit sounds very interesting, almost as good as the 2ghz kit and very cheap!

[Kasparz]

2GB D9GTR kit will cost about 100EUR in retail. CEC 1333MHz Qimondas about 70-80. As far as i tested D9GTR 2GB and 4GB kits, they really rock. Other D9JNL kit that reached 2.3GHz CL7 is much, much weaker. Of course for 2GHz+ you really need nF790i or very tweaked X48. For 4GB kit nF790i for 2GHz+ is a must.

[saaya]

2.3ghz cas7? you mean suicide screenshot?
100 euro for 2gb d9gtr kit is awesome!
are they guaranteed d9gtr?

btw bala, on the one pic it looks like there is only one hose connected to the cpu waterblock from the angle you took it hahah :D

[Kasparz]

Yes, suicide.
Yes, guaranteed. You can see what chip is used in Diablo series because its written on sticker, so no secrets hidden there.

[|SiLA|]

where i can get those gtr for 100 euros?
:d

[lior307]

Looks like my next Mems .
Where can i purchase them (i need international shipment) .

[Achill3uS]

the fact that it runs 2ghz cas8 and 1800 cas7 isnt really amazing, come on, show us some real numbers! :D
the value kit sounds very interesting, almost as good as the 2ghz kit and very cheap!

i will test it harder next time, but hey from JNL @ 1800 cl7 1.90v i think its nice (i dont told its amazing), OCZ's and other JNL kits was really far from this wich i had before...

btw bala, on the one pic it looks like there is only one hose connected to the cpu waterblock from the angle you took it hahah :D

LOL, yes this is a new waterblock, its only go in side, and the cpu drinks all of the water so i need to refill it always :lol:

2GB D9GTR kit will cost about 100EUR in retail. CEC 1333MHz Qimondas about 70-80. As far as i tested D9GTR 2GB and 4GB kits, they really rock. Other D9JNL kit that reached 2.3GHz CL7 is much, much weaker. Of course for 2GHz+ you really need nF790i or very tweaked X48. For 4GB kit nF790i for 2GHz+ is a must.

Guys what are you talking about? the Diablo is JNL, there is on the pictures, look at the heatspeader's text, and it dont like high voltage, so its not GTR and not 100 euro :confused: the blue kit is ~100 euro but its samsung...
ohh or the retail will come with GTR?

[Kasparz]

There will be no Diablo with D9JNL. Diablo with GTR will cost about 100EUR. CEC with Qimondas about 70-80EUR.

[Achill3uS]

There will be no Diablo with D9JNL. Diablo with GTR will cost about 100EUR. CEC with Qimondas about 70-80EUR.

wow, than cant wait for that kits coming out :up:
but sadly hungarian prices will be far away from that im pretty sure...

[TheKarmakazi]

lookin good, the value kit certainly held its own

[PPInDaHouse]

D9GTR kits for 100euro? that will be very good

[EnJoY]

Where can you buy these if you're in the states?

[Omastar]

有菠萝的好的工作！

[nFo]

有菠萝的好的工作！

Translation: Chinese (automatically detected) » English
有菠萝的好的工作
The good work of a pineapple :shrug:

Looks good memory, where can I get it ?
Only found one shop in germany: http://geizhals.at/eu/a344942.html

[jugeen]

Hello!
This is new SPD for this kit you are testing, might be great if you test 1866Mhz and 2GHz 8-7-6 XMP profiles on X48 board.
If people are curious about packaging, there are few pictures.
http://www.bildez.lv/foto/kasparz/d3
CEC 1333MHz kit in picture have Qimonda 10F.

P.S. I realized, you're testing old D9JNL kits. There will be only D9GTR and maybe D9GTS Diablo kits. And you might check, if its old CEC kit, it migth have D9JNL in it too. Heatspreaders for CEC aren't glued on.

as I see on the photo you linked http://www.bildez.lv/bildes/kasparz/d3/orig/1213112134.jpg there is a 2GB modul. 1GB stick and 2GB stick will also have GTR or GTS?

[Kasparz]

Yes, 4GB kit. Yes, D9GTR. As i said few times, all Diablo modules have written on sticker what chip it have, so when it will be available in shops, you can ask shop and they can easily tell what chip does it use. But both 2GB and 4GB Diablo kits will use D9GTR. Even if it will use other chips later, it will be written on package, and i will tell as fast as i'll get any information.
As far as i tested 4GB kit on Striker II XTR, this kit is able to go past 2100MHz at 8-7-6 2T keeping Vdimm under warranted 2.1Vdimm without any fan blowing over them. Without any skew tweaking, just little increased Vnb. To be honest, Qimonda kit i have is HOT, you can't really hold your finger on it. Highly overclocked Micron is cooler.

[EnJoY]

Where can you buy these if you're in the states?

Good question EnJoY! :up:

[Cpt.Planet]

Where can I get a kit in the US?

[Pyr0]

Where can I find these in the UK?

[Kasparz]

Good question EnJoY! :up:
:D
When retail kits will be ready i'll ask about it.

[jugeen]

i just picked up a retail Diablo 2GB 2000 kit and it has GTR chips ;)

[lefy]

:D
When retail kits will be ready i'll ask about it.

any rough idea when they might be ready? :)

[Kasparz]

Kits will be retail ready and available in more EU shops next month. If you have some large well known computer shop, you can always help. Some kits are available in local shop where I'm working.

[DMH]

Kits will be retail ready and available in more EU shops next month. If you have some large well known computer shop, you can always help. Some kits are available in local shop where I'm working.

Are you shipping to Portugal?

[F.stop]

are you shipping to UK?

[jugeen]

Are you shipping to Portugal?

are you shipping to UK?

you can order from Com-Discount (http://www.com-discount.de/FMPro?-DB=FFO22_CD.fp5&-LAY=CGI&-FORMAT=index.html&-TOKEN.8=20527848&-MAX=1&-SKIP=ALL&-FINDALL=) if Kasparz can't help you. This shop ships to UK and Portugal.

[F.stop]

you can order from Com-Discount (http://www.com-discount.de/FMPro?-DB=FFO22_CD.fp5&-LAY=CGI&-FORMAT=index.html&-TOKEN.8=20527848&-MAX=1&-SKIP=ALL&-FINDALL=) if Kasparz can't help you. This shop ships to UK and Portugal.

Cheers :up:

[Kasparz]

Hello!
This shop (http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_info.php?info=p8950_CSX-2GB-Kit-DDR3-2000-DIABLO.html) have both DDR3 Diablo's available. Note that specification isn't updated, there (http://www.csx-memory.com/datasheets/DIABLO3-2GB.pdf) you can see right specification for Diablo DDR3.

[Red Evil]

Can someone run Everest and post a screen of results?

[F.stop]

Hello!
This shop (http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_info.php?info=p8950_CSX-2GB-Kit-DDR3-2000-DIABLO.html) have both DDR3 Diablo's available. Note that specification isn't updated, there (http://www.csx-memory.com/datasheets/DIABLO3-2GB.pdf) you can see right specification for Diablo DDR3.


thanks Kasparz good prices on this site :)
any knowledge of the eXceleram parts- ddr3 1600 blue modules? cheap price

[Kasparz]

Exceleram have D9JNL or D9JNM. They are definitely cheaper than D9GTR/GTS, but lots of boards don't love JNL/JNM, and they won't work with tight timings.
I will test Samsung modules asap. Samsungs are also ones that can hit 2Ghz, and price is cheaper than D9GTR. But really, if you want maximum performance out of DDR3, D9GTR/GTS is one to get.

[F.stop]

Exceleram have D9JNL or D9JNM. They are definitely cheaper than D9GTR/GTS, but lots of boards don't love JNL/JNM, and they won't work with tight timings.
I will test Samsung modules asap. Samsungs are also ones that can hit 2Ghz, and price is cheaper than D9GTR. But really, if you want maximum performance out of DDR3, D9GTR/GTS is one to get.

I see, in that case i wont buy them.. i have a question for you, i am wondering which rams to use with asus evolution board running 4.0 - 4.2 qx9770, my thoughts atm are either gskill 2x2gb 1600 hz (gts chips) then oclock them or the 2x2gb csx 2000. price is not too different. not sure, g skill is good quality part and works well with this board.
what do you think :shrug:

[F.stop]

which companies are using samsung ic in their high end parts actually

[Kasparz]

Afaik OCZ, Corsair use samsungs in their high end parts. Don't know about others yet.
If you use Intel chipset board, you won't get 2GHz with 2GBx2 combination. CSX is rated higher, it have tight timings, it is guaranteed to run even at 2.1Vdimm. CSX have actually highest rated DDR3 speed/timing combination for 4GB kit. Choice is yours, i have used few G.Skill memory myself, and it's great too.

[jugeen]

I see, in that case i wont buy them.. i have a question for you, i am wondering which rams to use with asus evolution board running 4.0 - 4.2 qx9770, my thoughts atm are either gskill 2x2gb 1600 hz (gts chips) then oclock them or the 2x2gb csx 2000. price is not too different. not sure, g skill is good quality part and works well with this board.
what do you think :shrug:

there is no gskill 2x2gb 1600 hz with gts chips afaik. if i am wrong i am sorry.

[F.stop]

your right, csx 2000 is good value and timings are top aswell compared to expensive corsair ram.
I think the gskill is the one for me then with the gts microns should fly, hope to get to 1800

[kiwi]

Hello!
This shop (http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_info.php?info=p8950_CSX-2GB-Kit-DDR3-2000-DIABLO.html) have both DDR3 Diablo's available. Note that specification isn't updated, there (http://www.csx-memory.com/datasheets/DIABLO3-2GB.pdf) you can see right specification for Diablo DDR3.

So max. voltage covered by warranty is 2.125V?

[Kasparz]

Yes.

[F.stop]

there is no gskill 2x2gb 1600 hz with gts chips afaik. if i am wrong i am sorry.

this one, F3-12800CL7D-4GBHZ is the one thats on gts i believe jugeen

[SmokeyTheBandit]

this one, F3-12800CL7D-4GBHZ is the one thats on gts i believe jugeen

I ordered the 4GB CSX kit, id rather pay a bit more to sure to have D9GTR than gamble on another set wich could be GTS :yepp:
Its to expensive to gamble on this :D

[F.stop]

good point but im pretty sure gskill kit is gts, however they will be moving to jn on kits for cost savings...

[SmokeyTheBandit]

good point but im pretty sure gskill kit is gts, however they will be moving to jnm on kits for cost savings...

I won't take anything less than the best after my ocz debacle.
They sucked ass on my dfi x48 and gave me 2 weeks of hell :shakes: no more d9jnl based sticks for me :rofl:

[lefy]

Hello!
This shop (http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_info.php?info=p8950_CSX-2GB-Kit-DDR3-2000-DIABLO.html) have both DDR3 Diablo's available. Note that specification isn't updated, there (http://www.csx-memory.com/datasheets/DIABLO3-2GB.pdf) you can see right specification for Diablo DDR3.

no shipping to USA :(

the 2000MHz 4gb kit looks like a winner

[F.stop]

I won't take anything less than the best after my ocz debacle.
They sucked ass on my dfi x48 and gave me 2 weeks of hell :shakes: no more d9jnl based sticks for me :rofl:


i like gskill but i might still get this kit.
post back with your results if you get csx

[Achill3uS]

ive got today 1pcs of retail 2GB CSX 2000 kit (GTR), will see some results soon...

[F.stop]

good stuff, are you benching this kit on 790i and x48

[Achill3uS]

P45 (P5Q3 Deluxe) and X48 (Rampage Extreme) ;)

[jcool]

Rams that say what chips are under the hood? I love it. Gonna use the 2x2GB DDR3-2000 kit for all highend builds now, price tag is really ok for what they can do.
One question, do you think 4x2GB would work on a Striker 2 Extreme? Provided pimped-up cooling and lots of vNB of course :D

[F.stop]

P45 (P5Q3 Deluxe) and X48 (Rampage Extreme) ;)

:D:D:D

[LivingL@rGe81]

Are there any retailers in the UK that will be stocking this?

[Kasparz]

Rams that say what chips are under the hood? I love it. Gonna use the 2x2GB DDR3-2000 kit for all highend builds now, price tag is really ok for what they can do.
One question, do you think 4x2GB would work on a Striker 2 Extreme? Provided pimped-up cooling and lots of vNB of course :D
4x2GB works, but needs high Vnb. I received Samsungs too. Might compare D9GTR vs Samsung IC's this weekend. Yes, exactly, what you see is what you get. Most manufacturers use various IC's for same kit, so customer can ce upset when reading one review with old IC's, and receiving kit with other IC's that won't clock that good. What comes to cooling, even with 2.1Vdimm heatspreaders stay very cool.

[Ic3man]

Are there any retailers in the UK that will be stocking this?


Specialtech will recieve stock soon.

[LivingL@rGe81]

Specialtech will recieve stock soon.

Nice, I like specialtech :D

[Achill3uS]

guys i dont like to tell some bad things, this memory is cheap for GTR, but sadly clocks quite poor... cant even hit 1800mhz stable at cas7 or cas8 in P45 in the 1.90v-2.10v range...
it seems the ES kit with JNL was much better... but its only my first impressions, and only one kit...

[Kasparz]

Thats P45, not memory.

[Achill3uS]

will see in X48, but you must know i have other kits at home with GTS, and in this P45 could do 1900 cas7 memtest stable results, so im not sure in it mate :(

[Kasparz]

I have tested a lot retail D9GTR kits, and every one of them clocked very high. If it can't clock at 2GHz 8-7-6-19 with ~2.0-2.05Vdimm, then there's definitely something wrong with other hardware. On P5Q3 you might want to play more carefully with skews and all these settings that improve DRAM overclocking. Also newest BIOS is a must. I tested P5Q3 Deluxe some time ago, and hit 2GHz stable with some tweaking. Without tweaking it can barely do 2GHz suicide. What i really want to test tomorrow is Samsung vs D9GTR and voltage scaling on Samsung.

[jcool]

What comes to cooling, even with 2.1Vdimm heatspreaders stay very cool.

Ya I was talking about mobo NB cooling ;)
Anyway, thanks for letting me know 4x2GB works.
Just updated our HighEnd (http://www.highend-computer.de/epages/61252479.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61252479/Products/SYS027/SubProducts/SYS027-0001) and Super HighEnd (http://www.highend-computer.de/epages/61252479.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61252479/Products/SYS022/SubProducts/SYS022-0001) systems to use CSX Diablos :up:

[DJSUB]

@ kasparz

are you shipping to Manila Philippines?

thanks :D

[Kasparz]

No, unfortunately our shop is local yet.

[kiwi]

will see in X48, but you must know i have other kits at home with GTS, and in this P45 could do 1900 cas7 memtest stable results, so im not sure in it mate :(

Yes, please try x48

[Kasparz]

GTR kit on Striker II XTR 2GHz 8-7-6-19 stable at minimum voltage of 1.90(BIOS set).
OCZ ReaperX kit with GTN needs 2.0-2.02Vdimm at same settings stable.
Will update with results.
813 HCH9 samsungs can do 2GHz, but not stable yet. Will keep testing.

[Chri$ch]

got today my P5Q3 Deluxe and 2GB CSX Diablo DDR3-2000 (D9GTR)...

max clocks for now, will try later more ;)

SuperPi 1M (600x7 / 1000Mhz 8-7-6-19)
http://www.abload.de/thumb/600fsb-03w0c.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=600fsb-03w0c.png)

Everest Mem. & Cache Bench. (610x7 / 1016Mhz 8-7-6-19)
http://www.abload.de/thumb/everest2w0r.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=everest2w0r.png)

Max FSB
http://www.abload.de/thumb/615fsb1et.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=615fsb1et.png)

[F.stop]

nice start

[Chri$ch]

http://www.abload.de/img/4.5ghzsuperpi-32-02d6y.png

cant change the command rate :(

[Kasparz]

Glad you worked things out with this board. :up:
And I'm afraid to say this is first 32M pass at P5Q3 at 2GHz memfrequency in public. :clap:
Keep pushing it!

[Achill3uS]

finally i have some good news too, on X48 this kit begins to fly really nice, so all of my bad feelings was gone, but my P5Q3 results are still really weird with them...

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5998/2000cl8rampagekm0.png

btw 1800 7-6-5-18 also 32M and memtest stable at 2.00v :)

Chri$ch could you share your GTL settings for 500 fsb 1:2 32M pls?

Kasparz you are talking about your Striker II XTR results, but 790i runs cant compare to another intel chipsets my opinion...

[Kasparz]

Well mate, glad to see you get these stable at 2GHz too. Can you flash SPD with XMP and test if both 1866MHz/2GHz XMP profiles works stable on Rampage Extreme without messing with any settings in bios?
GTL settings are not universal, they depends on what PSU you use, even what revision board/what fab(for asus ch/tw) it is manufactured. So this is trial and error process. I have P5E3 Deluxe to test later on.

[TheKarmakazi]

Any more updates about U.S. availability? I am eager for these sticks? What will U.S. price be like?

[slim142]

Here is another one like Karmakazi, is there any store that will sell it in the US soon?

[SmokeyTheBandit]

A brief test of the 4GB kit

This is a very nice kit ..... the blackops will not let me go to 2t but for the 3 hours i have been testing this isn't that bad :D

http://xs229.xs.to/xs229/08290/blkps_ddr1720300.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs229&d=08290&f=blkps_ddr1720300.jpg)

[Chri$ch]

Chri$ch could you share your GTL settings for 500 fsb 1:2 32M pls?
There is nothing to share, i had them @ auto ;)

for 500FSB 1:2 you need to set all the performance settings (Static read control, mem OC charge etc) @ auto,
otherwise it wont boot (or i get a bluescreen)

[over@locker886]

finally i have some good news too, on X48 this kit begins to fly really nice, so all of my bad feelings was gone, but my P5Q3 results are still really weird with them...

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5998/2000cl8rampagekm0.png

btw 1800 7-6-5-18 also 32M and memtest stable at 2.00v :)


ohh, bro, please update your bios to 0301 or 0401 on Rampage Extreme! Maybe you will help more for memories;)

[Achill3uS]

Well mate, glad to see you get these stable at 2GHz too. Can you flash SPD with XMP and test if both 1866MHz/2GHz XMP profiles works stable on Rampage Extreme without messing with any settings in bios?
GTL settings are not universal, they depends on what PSU you use, even what revision board/what fab(for asus ch/tw) it is manufactured. So this is trial and error process. I have P5E3 Deluxe to test later on.

i will flash your SPD in it today and test it again, but i dont prefer this profile oc stuffs, like XMP, i like more to set the timings and ect manual.
yes BUT, on most mobos like the Rampage, dont need to play with them to get high clocks on fsb/ram, but the 3 phase P45 mobos like the P5Q3, are really sensitive for this settings, you need to play with the vtt/gtl rate for fsb/ram stability much earlyer than in other chipsets ever needed as my experience... (Maximus 2 Formula was not stable at only 500fsb without good GTL settings, and its only DDR2 mobo)
good luck with the P5E3 Deluxe m8 :)

A brief test of the 4GB kit

This is a very nice kit ..... the blackops will not let me go to 2t but for the 3 hours i have been testing this isn't that bad :D

http://xs229.xs.to/xs229/08290/blkps_ddr1720300.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs229&d=08290&f=blkps_ddr1720300.jpg)

nice result with 4GB kit, try to lower the timings to 7-6-6 or 7-6-5, 7-7-7 is for JNL :D

[Achill3uS]

There is nothing to share, i had them @ auto ;)

for 500FSB 1:2 you need to set all the performance settings (Static read control, mem OC charge etc) @ auto,
otherwise it wont boot (or i get a bluescreen)

hmm, this sounds interesting, i will check it asap, thanks!

ohh, bro, please update your bios to 0301 or 0401 on Rampage Extreme! Maybe you will help more for memories;)

i will, but smbody dont pass me them :rolleyes::D

[Achill3uS]

heh, tryd Chri$ch's settings, but still the same results with the CSX on my P5Q3, 1800 8-7-6 2.0v and still a ton of errors :rolleyes: (this vdimm was enough for memtest stability at even cas7 in X48) weird

[SmokeyTheBandit]

nice result with 4GB kit, try to lower the timings to 7-6-6 or 7-6-5, 7-7-7 is for JNL :D

Wouldn't boot Vista already tried it ;)
This board and these extremely good ram sticks are one hell of a combination !

If been through 5 different boards with 2x 4gb kits the last 5 weeks and this is by far the best board and result i got...... most boards realy realy hate 4GB kits especially if you through a high clocked quad in the mix (chipset ?!?!).

The Blackops is performing like you expect and finally stability .... :clap:

[Chri$ch]

i dont know why, but sometimes i have the problem that i can only use a res. of 800x600 if i boot 500FSB 1:2 :(

but its Dual 32M stable

http://www.abload.de/img/dual-32ms1n.png

max. 1M

http://www.abload.de/img/520fsb6tr.png

[SmokeyTheBandit]

Well got a bit further.
These sticks love voltage this is at 2.0V

http://xs229.xs.to/xs229/08290/blkps_ddr1760705.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs229&d=08290&f=blkps_ddr1760705.jpg)

Don't mind the pi time and score's.
I'm rebuilding my raid5 array wich take's 20 hours ......

[slim142]

Smokey
Maybe you can try this kit with a Quad-Core 45nm? I really want to know if a quad would make a huge impact...

[SmokeyTheBandit]

Smokey
Maybe you can try this kit with a Quad-Core 45nm? I really want to know if a quad would make a huge impact...

Im on a QX9770 wich as far as i know is a 45nm quad core :D

[jugeen]

i dont know why, but sometimes i have the problem that i can only use a res. of 800x600 if i boot 500FSB 1:2 :(

but its Dual 32M stable
max. 1M


increase your sb voltages.

[slim142]

Im on a QX9770 wich as far as i know is a 45nm quad core :D

Oh sorry, didnt notice that! :p: I thought you were one of the guys with E8400, E8500.

So thats the max you can get it up to? ~880Mhz? What vdimm?
Cant you improve your reading on X48 boards like 790is? With P1 & P2 disabled I get 9200 but when enabled I get 11200. (Using F3-12800CL7D-2GBHZ @ Stock)

[SmokeyTheBandit]

Oh sorry, didnt notice that! :p: I thought you were one of the guys with E8400, E8500.

So thats the max you can get it up to? ~880Mhz? What vdimm?
Cant you improve your reading on X48 boards like 790is? With P1 & P2 disabled I get 9200 but when enabled I get 11200. (Using F3-12800CL7D-2GBHZ @ Stock)

I have tested several boards (dfi t3rs and a few more) but non could get to these speeds.
The boards are having a real hard time with 4Gb with a high clocked quad.

Believe me if i tell you i tested these boards in the last 5 weeks and none could even come close to what the blackops is producing :cool:
This was a 1.66V @ NB and 2.0V @ Vdimm.

[slim142]

Im on a QX9770 wich as far as i know is a 45nm quad core :D

I have tested several boards (dfi t3rs and a few more) but non could get to these speeds.
The boards are having a real hard time with 4Gb with a high clocked quad.

Believe me if i tell you i tested these boards in the last 5 weeks and none could even come close to what the blackops is producing :cool:
This was a 1.66V @ NB and 2.0V @ Vdimm.

Well 4Gbs with OC Quad means limited overclock for sure thats why I would like to see more testing from people but using quads instead of duals to see how high can they get the RAM.

Thats a lot of NB voltage for that speed, I guess 1600-1700Mhz for the RAM is the spot if you want to have your Quad overclocked.
Maybe the reason why I was suffering overclocking my D9JNL while my Quad was already in 450Mhz FSB.:shrug:

[SmokeyTheBandit]

Well 4Gbs with OC Quad means limited overclock for sure thats why I would like to see more testing from people but using quads instead of duals to see how high can they get the RAM.

Thats a lot of NB voltage for that speed, I guess 1600-1700Mhz for the RAM is the spot if you want to have your Quad overclocked.
Maybe the reason why I was suffering overclocking my D9JNL while my Quad was already in 450Mhz FSB.:shrug:

I think i can lower the nb voltage a bit, this was just a quick test.
You put a hell of allot more pressure on the chipset with 4Gb and a 4Ghz+ quad ;)

[slim142]

I think i can lower the nb voltage a bit, this was just a quick test.
You put a hell of allot more pressure on the chipset with 4Gb and a 4Ghz+ quad ;)

Well yeah, thats why you want the best ICs you can get on the market so squeeze all those Mhz :p:

Anyways, Im glad Im going to watercool my NB so I can push it a little higher once I get my G.SKill RMAed.

[SmokeyTheBandit]

Well got a bit further with the memory can boot right up at 1800 cas 8 (quad @ 450) ..... this ram is realy realy nice :D

[Kasparz]

SmokeyTheBandit, maybe you can try this SPD i attached with BlackOps and quadcore with XMP enabled? This have 1866Mhz XMP profile, not sure your quad can handle 466FSB stable, but nonetleless this is final SPD for 4GB Diablo kit.

[slim142]

Wow that would be the best and highest speed. OC Quad+4Gbs @ 1866Mhz = Killer

[SmokeyTheBandit]

Thanks for the new spd Kasparz :)
Tried it but for now couldn't achieve any higher speeds.

From the testing i done i will keep it at 1760 cl 7 wich gives me a nice 10700 mb/s in everest.
The chipset is having a mayor hard time with anything higher than this for now this will be my 24/7 speed but will be testing with future blackops biosses when they arrive.
They are tweaking the newer biosses to have more/better support for 4gb kits ... more to come :)

[slim142]

Smokey, dont you have any 790i chipset that you can try?

[SmokeyTheBandit]

Smokey, dont you have any 790i chipset that you can try?

Nope but i have no doubt it they will run 2000+ Mhz on the 790i :D
1740 .. 7-7-7-20 1T = 32M Pi stable ..... :)

[slim142]

I wish you had one so you could show us some bandwidth scores with P1 & P2 Enabled.

[shinchan03]

which samsungs are you going to test? I'm very curious how they put up to the d9's.

[Kasparz]

HC9 Samsungs. These are most likely going for sale as 1600MHz 7-7-8 2GB/4GB CEC kits. D9GTR is a lot better than Samsungs, thats for sure. But Samsungs are a lot better than Qimonda. So if you want cheap but fast DDR3 for your P35/P45, get Samsungs. For X38/X48 and nF790i D9GTR is better.

[Kasparz]

I wish you had one so you could show us some bandwidth scores with P1 & P2 Enabled.
4GHz wolfdale with D9GTR 1:2 P1/P2 enabled gets you about 12.9k-13.3k in last everest version.

[shinchan03]

there are OCZ PC3-16000 Flex II XLC coming to me, r00ns ramlist can tell me that are Samsung HCF0 chips. But i haven't seen any results yet.

[slim142]

4GHz wolfdale with D9GTR 1:2 P1/P2 enabled gets you about 12.9k-13.3k in last everest version.

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

CSX Diablo FTW :clap:

Some numbers with a Quad-Core would be really appreciated too! :D

[Kasparz]

there are OCZ PC3-16000 Flex II XLC coming to me, r00ns ramlist can tell me that are Samsung HCF0 chips. But i haven't seen any results yet.
HCF0? Huh?
Samsungs in CSX are K4B1G0846D-HCH9
There's the full list of Samsung production DDR3 IC's
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productListNonflexTable.do?fmly_id=103&sht_id=1

[shinchan03]

Hmm strange, r00ns ramlist is giving me the wrong information?

http://ramlist.infinityx.nl/ddr3/

Look at the OCZ FlexxII 2000MHz's sticks.
I was talking about OCZ memory did you notice that? I want to know what kind of IC's they have.

[MnM]

Is a pitty that all the shops listed here are EU shipping shops only.

Anyone knows of a shop that stocks this ram and has international shipping?

[jugeen]

HCF0? Huh?
Samsungs in CSX are K4B1G0846D-HCH9
There's the full list of Samsung production DDR3 IC's
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/productListNonflexTable.do?fmly_id=103&sht_id=1

you can also have a look at HCF0 here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3174348&postcount=1)

[Kasparz]

Yes, i saw these, but they're not at Samsungs list. But price for OCZ/Corsair or A-Data Samsung HCF0 still is a lot higher that tends to think chips are more expensive too. And HCH9 isn't capable of 2GHz 8-8-8.

[rabor]

Hmm strange, r00ns ramlist is giving me the wrong information?

http://ramlist.infinityx.nl/ddr3/

Look at the OCZ FlexxII 2000MHz's sticks.
I was talking about OCZ memory did you notice that? I want to know what kind of IC's they have.Hope you're not using a Striker II Extreme.. I received my 2nd set of (790iUltra-pretested) OCZ Flex II DDR2000's yesterday & they crapped out aswell.

So I've given up & ordered these babies too..

[shinchan03]

How did they run at the striker II Extreme? I'm going to run on a Asus P5Q3 Deluxe, so i don't hope thats also going to be a big disaster. If the OCZ memory crap out as you say i sell them and i'm going to look for something else. Maybe the CSX.

The CSX memory isn't for sale in the Netherlands is it?

[rabor]

I ordered a 2GB kit this morning at com-discount.de for € 117,- (+ € 20,- shipping via DHL-Premium).

The OCZ Flex II 2000's won't even run Memtest68 error-free at DDR1600 9-9-9-3X - on a Striker2Extreme that is with a stock E8500.. However the first kit worked fine before on a P5E3 Premium @ DDR2000+ but that board's a goner now, so I can't test if my OCZ's are actually faulty, or just being rejected by my S2E..

[shinchan03]

Hmm i'm going to try it and i will see if it works, I'm also going to think about the CSX's, thanks four your info

[SmokeyTheBandit]

Hmm i'm going to try it and i will see if it works, I'm also going to think about the CSX's, thanks four your info

I bought them at ww.hpm-computer.de and they ship to NL for +/- €9,- with GLS :cool:

[shinchan03]

I checked the site but the 2gb version is more expensive then at comdiscount, I will check both of the sites at that time. First i'm going to try the ocz memory

[rabor]

I bought them at ww.hpm-computer.de and they ship to NL for +/- €9,- with GLS :cool:

Hmm.. € 139,90 + 9,- GLS - No Stock, or € 117,- + 20,41 DHL-Premium (< 36 hours) - Stock.. :slap:

;)

[slim142]

I ordered a 2GB kit this morning at com-discount.de for € 117,- (+ € 20,- shipping via DHL-Premium).

The OCZ Flex II 2000's won't even run Memtest68 error-free at DDR1600 9-9-9-3X - on a Striker2Extreme that is with a stock E8500.. However the first kit worked fine before on a P5E3 Premium @ DDR2000+ but that board's a goner now, so I can't test if my OCZ's are actually faulty, or just being rejected by my S2E..

Could you please post some Everest memory benchmarks and overclock results once you get this memory?

[Kasparz]

Hope you're not using a Striker II Extreme.. I received my 2nd set of (790iUltra-pretested) OCZ Flex II DDR2000's yesterday & they crapped out aswell.

So I've given up & ordered these babies too..
Not to blame anyone, but OCZ recommends 2GHz kits with nF790i, and that's pretty normal. But if it can't work with best board in market, that isn't sign of quality. And if memory costs that much for 2GHz kit, it should be working proper. Same goes for other OCZ kits, as i'm working in big company as a service head, large numbers of OCZ memory have compatibility issues. They have excellent R&D people, so they should improve their products.
If anyone will do trip to Latvia, i can make discount for CSX kits from our shop. :D

[M@G!C]

I received my CSX DIABLO 4GB kit today... :clap::clap::clap:
I will start testing with my QX9650 and S2E when i get home.

[Kasparz]

Finally ended testing for Samsung kits. They'll be rated at 1600MHz 7-8-8 1T 1.85Vdimm with XMP of course. I'll test later at lower speeds, and maybe include 1333MHz XMP profile too, because there are still few boards that won't work at 1600MHz stable.

[Achill3uS]

interesting results, 1600 cas7 1.85v is nice but what about high clocks at cas8-9, don't you checked it?

[Kasparz]

Id does 32M stable at 2GHz 8-8-8, but the reason is that at memtest it throws few errors at that speed, in windows its completely stable through dual 32M.
At 1333MHz it will be rated at 6-6-7 1.75v.

[Achill3uS]

2000 cas8 32m hmmm sounds nice for the cec 1333 kits, i don't have much time to play with (but okay you are testing with 790i, not X48), but will get them back soon, and will check it asap :)

[Kasparz]

CEC 1333MHz kits are Qimonda, Samsung will be 1600MHz. I have all chipsets available to test on, even X48.

[Achill3uS]

so you told me i've found of cec 1333 a 2000mhz cl9 32M stable quimonda? :D
try to get one mate, its better for compare ddr3 than 790i or else...

[Kasparz]

Retail 1333MHz kits will have Qimondas, retail 1600MHz kits will have Samsungs.
I don't need to try, because i have everything available on my desk.

[Achill3uS]

ah i see. than maybe early 1333 cec comes with samsung coz ive seen some with it on a store here in hungary.
than use it, don't just see them, jk :D

[jugeen]

share some photos Kasparz pls. i am really interesting CSX modules.

[Kasparz]

Photos of memory or screenshots?

[jugeen]

photos of memory. thx! :up:

[hecktic]

add me to the list for USA buyers :)

[Felipe]

nice results is a d9gtr?

[M@G!C]

The 2x2GB kit that i have received have diferent SPD setings programmed in each module.... :confused: i dont think this is normal....
Can you help me on this Kasparz?

Thanks

[jcool]

Magic how do they run on the S2E? I just had a nice chat with the EU sales rep from CSX, getting a 4GB kit Diablo 2000 myself for testing on a S2E.

[SmokeyTheBandit]

The 2x2GB kit that i have received have diferent SPD setings programmed in each module.... :confused: i dont think this is normal....
Can you help me on this Kasparz?

Thanks

You could give the final spd Kasparz posted a go.
I programmed them and can confirm they work :)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3156453&postcount=93

[Kasparz]

Magic how do they run on the S2E? I just had a nice chat with the EU sales rep from CSX, getting a 4GB kit Diablo 2000 myself for testing on a S2E.
They run extremely well on S2XTR, as we speak, on this is board i achieved max stable speed with Diablo kits.
Different SPD's might be becasue at very first batch there was 2Ghz Diablo's without XMP, then they had. It might happen, but both modules are the same, and i have uploaded final spd if something.

[slim142]

Oh man, I wish they had this available on US or at least shipping to US available. I WANT THIS SOOOOOOOOOOO BAD!

[M@G!C]

Well i dont know why but this kit is not perfoming well with my S2E.
First i was unable to run them at 2000Mhz always BSOD when loading windows, and second i cannot run them at 8-7-6 timings even at 1800Mhz it will give errors on Memtest and BSOD if i try to load Windows.
Another thing i noticed is, i have run Memtest at 1800Mhz with timimgs 8-8-8-21 and 1.95V and it hangs! No errors it just hangs and i have to do a reset. I lowered the voltage to 1.90V and they pass memtest OK.
Any help is welcome at this point .... :(

[Kasparz]

You have to increase chipset voltage for about 1.55-1.65v.

[M@G!C]

You have to increase chipset voltage for about 1.55-1.65v.

I´ve increased the NB voltage to 1,6v since for now i´m only trying to run at 1800 8-7-6-15 and i stil get errors on Memtest ... :(
I also changed from the blue slots to the white slots and i had the same result..
I will not give up yet... :bsod: But really need your help... :rolleyes:
Thanks.

[M@G!C]

Magic how do they run on the S2E? I just had a nice chat with the EU sales rep from CSX, getting a 4GB kit Diablo 2000 myself for testing on a S2E.

Right now i´m having some problems running this memory on my S2E as you can read from my posts. :( But i have :rolleyes: hope that i will sort the problem and have this memory working at 100%
I will have to do more tests.

[hecktic]

maybe you can sell them to USA buyers here on XS only??

how about a special arrangement with one of the mods for XS in europe ... you could sell them to one person there who can be an agent for us here in USA... ofcourse that would mean all US buyers need to trust this person, but I think I have seen this done before on XS on other items....

[slim142]

I´ve increased the NB voltage to 1,6v since for now i´m only trying to run at 1800 8-7-6-15 and i stil get errors on Memtest ... :(
I also changed from the blue slots to the white slots and i had the same result..
I will not give up yet... :bsod: But really need your help... :rolleyes:
Thanks.

M@G!C

I dont know if this affects all board, but mines sometimes will fail stability tests when the NB has too much voltage. However, you should keep in mind your NB should be between 1.54-1.60.

I would recommend you keep testing using Memtest86+ with a floppy. If it passes, run Prime95 and see if everything goes fine.

[M@G!C]

The errors in Memtest i´m having are always in the same test:

TEST 6 moving inversions 32Bit random pattern

[LivingL@rGe81]

The errors in Memtest i´m having are always in the same test:

TEST 6 moving inversions 32Bit random pattern

Try adjusting FSB voltage I get errors in test 6 when set to high with high clocks on memory!

[Kasparz]

maybe you can sell them to USA buyers here on XS only??
Is that a question for me? I can do it, but under different brand.

[hecktic]

Is that a question for me? I can do it, but under different brand.

yes.... you could also sell them to us here in USA via a purchasing agent in Europe (preferably a very trusted XS member) who can then redistribute them to USA buyers.

Ive dealt with some awsome guys in the past with successful trades and sales to some European XS members.... maybe someone would be interested in doing this?

otherwise, how else can USA XS members get a hold of this ram?

[M@G!C]

Maybe if a European XS member with a good positive feedback on Ebay, can sell them there...

[jcool]

Maybe if a European XS member with a good positive feedback on Ebay, can sell them there...

Hi Magic, just received mine today, testing on S2E right now. Had problems at first, but now I got it to work using less Vdimm and less vnb.
Mem at 2000 8-7-6-19 2T, vNB 1,54V (~1,58V real, over 1,6 real gave errors) Vdimm 1,94V (1,97V real, around 1,95V is what the CSX rep told me, I had used 2,0V bios before which was too high?)
Apparently my set uses new chips, D9GTS instead of GTR, seems like they don't need/want as much voltage.
Check what yours say, if it's GTS try my suggestions.

Oh yeah, use the white slots.

Edit: Ok, didn't work that well. 1,9V bios suddenly failed at test 3, 1,94V too. Grml back to trying...

[Achill3uS]

is that 2x2GB kit jcool? and its on the sticker "GTS" or just the CSX guy told you it is. sounds weird to me, that GTS don't like 2.0v or more... my GTS kit (not CSX) is memtest stable with even 2.2v... okay it could be, but its JNx ic's speciality...

[Kasparz]

4gb - Gts
2gb - Gtr

The question is, XS guys wants kits with expensive heatspreader including heatpipes, standard low profile heatspreader, or memory without heatspreader?

[M@G!C]

Hi Magic, just received mine today, testing on S2E right now. Had problems at first, but now I got it to work using less Vdimm and less vnb.
Mem at 2000 8-7-6-19 2T, vNB 1,54V (~1,58V real, over 1,6 real gave errors) Vdimm 1,94V (1,97V real, around 1,95V is what the CSX rep told me, I had used 2,0V bios before which was too high?)
Apparently my set uses new chips, D9GTS instead of GTR, seems like they don't need/want as much voltage.
Check what yours say, if it's GTS try my suggestions.

Oh yeah, use the white slots.

Edit: Ok, didn't work that well. 1,9V bios suddenly failed at test 3, 1,94V too. Grml back to trying...

My kit as GTR chips, and i´m currently testing in white slots...
I´ve tried a combination of different voltages in NB and Vdimm but till now i was not sucessfull running my kit at 2000Mhz or 1800Mhz 8-7-6-15 .... :(
All my test are donne LINKED and SINKED. And dont even try to run them at 1T.... :mad: It gives errors right away in the first test...

[Achill3uS]

4gb - Gts
2gb - Gtr

The question is, XS guys wants kits with expensive heatspreader including heatpipes, standard low profile heatspreader, or memory without heatspreader?

thanks for clearing as far as i know 2x2 is also GTR. than retail is not, or just not anymore. than some double sided modules don't like that higher voltages even it's GTS.

btw what do you think about the heatspreader question? to sale memorys without (like TG before)?
my opinion is a strong hs wich don't need to replaced or extra cooled (except when you pushing them over the limits)

[M@G!C]

4gb - Gts
2gb - Gtr

The question is, XS guys wants kits with expensive heatspreader including heatpipes, standard low profile heatspreader, or memory without heatspreader?

My kit it´s 4GB and it´s GTR.....

[Kasparz]

Yes, old stock in shops are, but i'm talking about what comes out of csx at the moment, not shops.
Big heatspreader with heatpipes would;d be 40-50$ more than without heatspreaders, thats why i'm asking.

[M@G!C]

Well i will do some more tests, if i continue to receive errors on Memtest at rated speed and timmings for this memory i will hane no other choice then return this kit... :(

[jcool]

My kit as GTR chips, and i´m currently testing in white slots...
I´ve tried a combination of different voltages in NB and Vdimm but till now i was not sucessfull running my kit at 2000Mhz or 1800Mhz 8-7-6-15 .... :(
All my test are donne LINKED and SINKED. And dont even try to run them at 1T.... :mad: It gives errors right away in the first test...

Lol you won't believe what did the trick for me.. I got memtest interrupt error or something at 1800, so I lowered the vNB to 1,48V bios.. and memtest passed without a hiccup at 1800 8-7-6-19 with 1,9V Vdimm.
Priming now...

[M@G!C]

Lol you won't believe what did the trick for me.. I got memtest interrupt error or something at 1800, so I lowered the vNB to 1,48V bios.. and memtest passed without a hiccup at 1800 8-7-6-19 with 1,9V Vdimm.
Priming now...

1,48 NB and 1,9V Vdimm are real voltage values or the values set on BIOS?

[jcool]

Values set in bios.

[M@G!C]

OK thanks :up:
I will give a try later and see if i have any luck.... :rolleyes:
Which BIOS do you have?

[jcool]

0901 currently.

[rabor]

Well, received mine today (2x 1GB - D9GTR),

& after some fiddling I got them Memtest-'stable' (4 passes) @ stock DDR2000 8-7-6-19-T1:

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/118/csxdiabloddr32000hh4.jpg

Bios settings (Striker2X): VDimm -1.98V / NB 1.48V / SB auto / PLL auto / VTT 1.26V
In Everest these are: VDimm - 2.00V / NB 1.49V / SB 1.50V / PLL 1.52V / VTT 1.26V

Tried OC-ing them a little, & DDR2050 is how far I got them 1 pass Memtest-stable at 8-7-6-19-1T (2.08V BIOS - 2.13V Everest):

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7144/csxdiabloddr32050dw9.jpg

I think I like these.. :up:

[day187]

Mine are on the way :) cant wait, keep pushing

[slim142]

Man I wouldnt go higher than 2.02 voltage (real). Even though they have a nice metal heatspreader, killing D9GTR is just.....

[Tyke]

Received my kit this morning, 2 X 2GB with GTS chips! Gonna have a play about over the weekend.

[rabor]

I didn't want to push them past 2.125V, but I didn't know how my S2X' vDimm settings would translate to Everest.. Though at 2.13V (according to Everest..) the heatspreaders hardly warm up, even if you touch them where the chips are located they are lukewarm at best..

They're just great that's what they are.. 'specially after my OCZ-debacle.

:cheer:

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5255/csxdiabloddr3d9gtrtechnlt5.jpg

[stealth]

Hi,

Has anyone test this kit what is the highest speed can reach and with how much voltage?

http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_info.php?info=p8950_CSX-2GB-Kit-DDR3-2000-DIABLO.html

I hope they come soon here in Greece.

stealth

[M@G!C]

Hi,

Has anyone test this kit what is the highest speed can reach and with how much voltage?

http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_info.php?info=p8950_CSX-2GB-Kit-DDR3-2000-DIABLO.html

I hope they come soon here in Greece.

stealth

Link is broken...

[stealth]

Link is broken...

Works fine for me.

Here it is again:

http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_info.php?info=p8950_CSX-2GB-Kit-DDR3-2000-DIABLO.html

This is the Ram "CSX 2GB Kit DDR3-2000 DIABLO".

stealth

[rabor]

Link works fine with me.. but they're cheaper over here (http://com-discount.de/) + they got superfast shipping (DHL-Premium).

[slim142]

Does anybody know of a site that will ship this to US?

Also, M@G!C, how is that memory on the striker so far?

[lolhalol]

Does anyone know teh home page for CSX?

[jugeen]

http://www.csx-memory.com/?language=en

[M@G!C]

:woot::woot: Finally i found stability with this board!!! :yepp:

Running my 4GB CSX Diablo DDR3 at 1800FSB 8-8-8-19 linked and sinked P1 and P2 enable!!! My QX9650 is running at 3825 Mhz with only 1,3250v Vcore set on BIOS... not bad i think...
Memtest stable and Prime stable for 5 hours :rocker::rocker:
Also runned 3 loops of 3Dmark 2006 and played Crysis for 1 hour and.... ROCK STABLE! :wiggle::wiggle:
Will post some Everest bandwidth tests later... ( still priming as i post this) ... :D
I really tried tight timimgs 8-7-6 and 8-7-7 but gave me errors in Memtest and Prime 95 but i have not give up...:up:

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8769/32415446uq2.jpgD

[hecktic]

so is jcool going to be the buying agent for XS members in USA & CAN ???/

[Achill3uS]

im also testing my kits (2*1 GTR) on 790i (S2E) now, and its much more easy to make it stable than on intel P45 or X48, i can use less voltage for stability... that's what i've talked about upper, nforce is nforce :)
1800 7-6-5-18 1T P1&P2:enabled memtest stable @ 1.94v, 2000 7-6-6-18 1T boot & 1M 2M pass @ 2.24v
screens later... need to tweak them more...

[BulldogPO]

Kasparz, how easy are heatspreaders to remove?

[Achill3uS]

Kasparz, how easy are heatspreaders to remove?

its really hard to remove the thermal tape wich CSX use on the Diablo, its really stable and the other side has some glue on 3 points if you have single sided module...

[slim142]

im also testing my kits (2*1 GTR) on 790i (S2E) now, and its much more easy to make it stable than on intel P45 or X48, i can use less voltage for stability... that's what i've talked about upper, nforce is nforce :)
1800 7-6-5-18 1T P1&P2:enabled memtest stable @ 1.94v, 2000 7-6-6-18 1T boot & 1M 2M pass @ 2.24v
screens later... need to tweak them more...

Is that the highest you can get it stable on the S2E?

[Achill3uS]

Is that the highest you can get it stable on the S2E?

no, 2000 8-7-6 also rock stable around 2.0v, and i could bench @ 2100 8-7-6

btw, yesterday i've get off the hs of the diablos, baah its really needed to warm up till your fingers burn :D

[hecktic]

so is jcool going to be the buying agent for XS members in USA & CAN ???/

:rolleyes:

[jcool]

so is jcool going to be the buying agent for XS members in USA & CAN ???/

Actually I have no idea how shipment to the US works with customs and all.
But I do know someone who could be able to help, gotta ask him first though ;)

Also I'm not sure pricing is that attractive, given the current euro/dollar relation.
Anyone who's interested in getting these mems (and can't get it any other way) may contact me by PM, I guess...

[Achill3uS]

its nice move from you jcool, but afaik there will be also available CSX soon. ;)

[slim142]

no, 2000 8-7-6 also rock stable around 2.0v, and i could bench @ 2100 8-7-6

btw, yesterday i've get off the hs of the diablos, baah its really needed to warm up till your fingers burn :D

Thats great to know :)
Btw, is there any small chance anybody could be able to try this in a 8Gb configuration with a Quad-Core on a S2E? That would really stress the NB and I would love to see how the S2E reacts to this.

Actually I have no idea how shipment to the US works with customs and all.
But I do know someone who could be able to help, gotta ask him first though ;)

Also I'm not sure pricing is that attractive, given the current euro/dollar relation.
Anyone who's interested in getting these mems (and can't get it any other way) may contact me by PM, I guess...

jcool
I want this memory so bad, but Im looking for GTR kits only. If you can give US people some help, it would be great ;)

its nice move from you jcool, but afaik there will be also available CSX soon. ;)

Did they announce they coming to US?

[Achill3uS]

if i will got some 4GB kits for testing i will do it :)

and no, they didnt announce it, ive just get you know about it, its in the plan to make CSX available in the US also.

[Kasparz]

Kasparz, how easy are heatspreaders to remove?
On Diablo you have to heat them up, on CEC it is very easy to remove.

[slim142]

if i will got some 4GB kits for testing i will do it :)

and no, they didnt announce it, ive just get you know about it, its in the plan to make CSX available in the US also.

Will look forward for that 8gb testing :D
Btw, if you get any ETA for the CSX in US, please let us know :)

[jcool]

Current 4GB Diablo Kits carry D9GTS by the way.. just so you know.
At least that's what I got and what the German CSX rep told me.

[Kasparz]

Current 4GB Diablo Kits carry D9GTS by the way.. just so you know.
At least that's what I got and what the German CSX rep told me.
You probably didn't read previous posts.

[slim142]

Current 4GB Diablo Kits carry D9GTS by the way.. just so you know.
At least that's what I got and what the German CSX rep told me.

Yeah thats what I also heard from them. I can wait for GTR kits though.

[slim142]

You probably didn't read previous posts.

So kits on stores are most probably GTR ICs. Kits from CSX website are most probably GTS right?

Im interested on GTR, nothing else. :D

[Kasparz]

Why are you interested in GTR? Chips are both the same. GTR is like E8400, GTS is E8500. Both are same, you just get higher IC mfg bin in this case.

[slim142]

Why are you interested in GTR? Chips are both the same. GTR is like E8400, GTS is E8500. Both are same, you just get higher IC mfg bin in this case.

So wait, GTS is actually better than GTR? I thought GTR was the (better)highed binned (1.33Ghz on GTR vs 1.06Ghz on GTS)

confused :confused:

[Kasparz]

GTN is 800, GTR 1066, GTS 1333.
http://download.micron.com/pdf/datasheets/dram/ddr3/1Gb%20DDR3%20SDRAM.pdf

[slim142]

GTN is 800, GTR 1066, GTS 1333.
http://download.micron.com/pdf/datasheets/dram/ddr3/1Gb%20DDR3%20SDRAM.pdf

Where in that huge document explains the GTN 800, GTR 1066 and GTS 1333? I couldnt find it anywhere...

Im confused since this is what the CSX Rep told me in the email I sent

S and R are from the same chip family. The Base speed from Micron on S = 1066MHz. R Base speed is 1.33GHz

Oh well, jcool just told me GTS is more expensive so I think Kasparz you are right after all. GTN<GTR<GTS

[Kasparz]

Where in that huge document explains the GTN 800, GTR 1066 and GTS 1333? I couldnt find it anywhere...

First page.
If you need FBGA decoder, there it is
http://www.micron.com/support/part_info/fbga/decoder.aspx#
People felt in mass fault syndrome, information is available, so there is no need to ask anyone in forums. Google search takes few seconds, answer to anyone(me including) takes more than minute to write.

[rabor]

Well,

my frakkin' %#@*^&&^$$##!! Striker 2 Extreme has done it again.. byebye my sweet Diablo's... :(

They ran about a week at stockspeeds & today they crapped out exactly the same way as 2 sets of OCZ Flex 2 DDR2000 & 1 set of Corsair XMS3-2000..

Man I hate this mainboard - it's 680i-mayhem all over again.. :cussing:

[slim142]

I see... so I was wrong all this time thinking D9GTR was better. Well now that everything is clear, I think there is no problem getting GTS now :D

Thx Kasparz

[slim142]

Well,

my frakkin' %#@*^&&^$$##!! Striker 2 Extreme has done it again.. byebye my sweet Diablo's... :(

They ran about a week at stockspeeds & today they crapped out exactly the same way as 2 sets of OCZ Flex 2 DDR2000 & 1 set of Corsair XMS3-2000..

Man I hate this mainboard - it's 680i-mayhem all over again.. :cussing:

Are you serious?
What voltage did you have your Diablos?

[M@G!C]

Well,

my frakkin' %#@*^&&^$$##!! Striker 2 Extreme has done it again.. byebye my sweet Diablo's... :(

They ran about a week at stockspeeds & today they crapped out exactly the same way as 2 sets of OCZ Flex 2 DDR2000 & 1 set of Corsair XMS3-2000..

Man I hate this mainboard - it's 680i-mayhem all over again.. :cussing:

How do you know is the Board killing your memory?
Wich voltage where you running the sticks?

[Kasparz]

Board is first what can kill memory, second is heat, third is voltage. Of course if voltage is within warranty limit.

[rabor]

I ran these at 2GHz (8-7-6-19-T1) with 1.96 in BIOS, and tested them for 20- maybe 30 minutes at 2,06V in BIOS to see how high they would run at stock-latencies. That's it. Also, they weren't even getting warm, but still I had a fan over them.

How do I know it's the mainboard? Except that it's obvious, it's also a know issue with NVIDIA-chipsets.. Before it became news one or two weeks ago I was told by someone from OCZ that Asus was going to take the 790i Ultra out of production soon - supposedly for these kinds of issues.

Any problems with these Diablo's on a Rampage Extreme?

[Kasparz]

nVidia chipsets are bad, that has been known for years. If you get working sample, you're lucky. After 3 samples i get one that actually works and i use it for testing sometimes. Haven't killed anything, no data corruption, works like charm. Intel chipsets are a lot better, but takes skill, knowledge and time to tweak it.

[slim142]

Can things like going from 1.90 to 1.94 then 1.92 and so kill the memory? Cause thats what is happening to most boards, but this is the second or third time I hear a pair of memory died, specially Diablo, with so many reviews and people saying that even at 2.1 the heatspreaders were not even close to warm.

[Kasparz]

rma?

[rabor]

Anyone got an address where I can contact CSX? Their site seems to be down for a couple of days already..

[Achill3uS]

yes they know about it, and working on it don't worry :) its some server issue...

[rabor]

Thanks, & yes for RMA.

[Achill3uS]

drop me a PM.

[BulldogPO]

Diablo DDR3 kit just arrived, UPS dude dropped it in :)
Seems to have Micron D9GTS chips.

[slim142]

I ran these at 2GHz (8-7-6-19-T1) with 1.96 in BIOS, and tested them for 20- maybe 30 minutes at 2,06V in BIOS to see how high they would run at stock-latencies. That's it. Also, they weren't even getting warm, but still I had a fan over them.

How do I know it's the mainboard? Except that it's obvious, it's also a know issue with NVIDIA-chipsets.. Before it became news one or two weeks ago I was told by someone from OCZ that Asus was going to take the 790i Ultra out of production soon - supposedly for these kinds of issues.

Any problems with these Diablo's on a Rampage Extreme?

Ok, first 1.96 would really be 2.08 and 2.04 at load (considering your striker also overvolts), it is still under the 2.1 mark, but Im pretty sure people here would agree more than 2.0 is taking a risk (I wouldnt run my RAM higher than 1.95 anyways).

Thats the main reason why I want this kit, I should be able to run it at 1.86 BIOS (1.94 real, 1.90 in load) at 1800Mhz 8-7-6-18 with no problems while keeping the memory safe on the voltage. Just in case, Im planning on putting a OCZ Memory fan on top of them.

[rabor]

Ok, first 1.96 would really be 2.08 and 2.04 at load (considering your striker also overvolts), it is still under the 2.1 mark, but Im pretty sure people here would agree more than 2.0 is taking a risk (I wouldnt run my RAM higher than 1.95 anyways).

Thats the main reason why I want this kit, I should be able to run it at 1.86 BIOS (1.94 real, 1.90 in load) at 1800Mhz 8-7-6-18 with no problems while keeping the memory safe on the voltage. Just in case, Im planning on putting a OCZ Memory fan on top of them.According to the BIOS & Everest my S2E's vDimm of 1.96V was exactly 2V, so as far as I know I always ran 'em at factory specs. Besides that they (or mine) really needed a minimum of 'real' 1.98V to run at 2GHz 8-7-6-19 T1. Though I set them to 2V 'real' just for that little bit of extra security/stability.

On the up, my problems are being solved atm; I can swap my faulty S2E for a RE at my shop, & CSX will RMA my Diablo's.. :up:

So all in all just another experience to add to the heap..

[slim142]

According to the BIOS & Everest my S2E's vDimm of 1.96V was exactly 2V, so as far as I know I always ran 'em at factory specs. Besides that they (or mine) really needed a minimum of 'real' 1.98V to run at 2GHz 8-7-6-19 T1. Though I set them to 2V 'real' just for that little bit of extra security/stability.

On the up, my problems are being solved atm; I can swap my faulty S2E for a RE at my shop, & CSX will RMA my Diablo's.. :up:

So all in all just another experience to add to the heap..

Well, I dont want to make a deal out of this, but IMO 2.00 shouldnt be a 24/7 on DDR3, specially if you have Micron inside your memory. Thats my opinion.

If I had to run more than 1.90, 1.95 would be my deadline, of course with fans on top.

Of course, I do this to avoid RMAs. Since you guys live in Europe and CSX is located there, your worries about RMAing are less than people like me who live in US and RMAing CSX would take longer than if CSX was in US.

[canna1988]

guys today i have order 4 Gbs (2GB X 2) kit for my EVGA 790 FTW, and after i will post the test....

[slim142]

Thats great canna
waiting for your results!

[Dsjjang]

My Diablo PC3-16000 1x2 Set.. :D


Bios set

vnb 1.45v
vFsb 1.36v
vdimm 1.94v

http://cfs8.blog.daum.net/original/7/blog/2008/08/20/08/56/48ab5d9002061&filename=4800_32M.jpg


Bios set

vnb 1.57v
vFsb 1.3v
vdimm 1.94v

http://cfs12.blog.daum.net/original/5/blog/2008/08/20/22/29/48ac1c1f12079&filename=DDR320008-7-6-181T.jpg

Bios set

vnb 1.55v
vFsb 1.3v
vdimm 2.1v

http://cfs12.blog.daum.net/original/18/blog/2008/08/20/22/31/48ac1c9830463&filename=DDR319287-6-6-181T.jpg

[BulldogPO]

I did also a littlebit of testing with CSX Diablos.

http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00941/2583993.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2583993.jpg)

Tests just started.

[Computerville]

950MHz 7-7-7 ^_^ :clap:

[BulldogPO]

These are absolute value for money!
Now dudes at Compustox, you have to get these selling everywhere :)

[BulldogPO]

Hah!
I did Even get to tweak a little more those timings:
http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=2591432.jpg

[Computerville]

Hah!
I did Even get to tweak a little more those timings:950MHz 7-6-6-15! :up:

[Dsjjang]

Some more test CL7~
Change some sub timing~

DDR3 1960 7-6-6-18 1T

Bios set

vnb 1.57v
vfsb 1.3v
vdimm 2.12v

http://cfs8.blog.daum.net/original/24/blog/2008/08/24/23/36/48b171e5d9f80&filename=DDR319607-6-6-181T32M.jpg

DDR3 1988 7-6-6-18 1T

bios set

vnb 1.61v
vfsb 1.3v
vdimm 2.18v

http://cfs8.blog.daum.net/original/12/blog/2008/08/24/23/36/48b171ea0fc08&filename=DDR319887-6-6-181T32M.jpg

DDR3 2000 7-6-6-18 1T so hard~
I have not succed yet~ :D

[BulldogPO]

Yet again tighter latencies:

http://bulldogpo.wippiespace.com/FoxconnKisa_woohoo_73458.jpg

[Expat GriZ]

guys today i have order 4 Gbs (2GB X 2) kit for my EVGA 790 FTW, and after i will post the test....
@canna;

Dude, just loading 2 X 2 Diablo's 2000 mhz in a Rampage Extreme. Had a heck of a time getting them to boot and allow me to load Vista 64. Finally went with mem at 1600 mhz, used memory feature. stock loose timings (9's, Perf Level 8). It put the E8600 @ 4.00 ghz. Temp 34 & 37 C Just going to put in the second stick now as trying to get it going with both in wasn't working. All the best with your sticks.

GriZ

[slim142]

Man I want this so bad!

[maxine]

Can this kits do CAS 5/6?....try it please....:D

[Computerville]

Can this kits do CAS 5/6?....try it please....:D- Nah, tCL5 is the working title for DDR2. ^_^

[Achill3uS]

I've got some 2x1GB Diablo kit with GTS, and some of the new CEC 1600 kits with somekind of Samsung (HF9H if i remember)
so i will write some oc reports asap :)

[Computerville]

D9GTS?

Yeaa for sure,

[slim142]

Does anybody know if this Diablo will do 1800Mhz 6-6-6-18 2T with 1.90vdimm on a 790i?

If not, whats the best that it would be able to run with 1.90v?

[tomati]

I've got some 2x1GB Diablo kit with GTS, and some of the new CEC 1600 kits with somekind of Samsung (HF9H if i remember)
so i will write some oc reports asap :)

:shocked: GTS on 2 x 1GB kit , damned , did CSX changed their chips on retail kit too or is it just a sample one ?

[Achill3uS]

Does anybody know if this Diablo will do 1800Mhz 6-6-6-18 2T with 1.90vdimm on a 790i?

If not, whats the best that it would be able to run with 1.90v?

18000 6-6-6 @ 1.90v haha if you will find a kit wich could do this tell me :D
1.9v in cas6? around 1600 i think, but only 2x1GB GTR or GTS from Diablos...

[Achill3uS]

:shocked: GTS on 2 x 1GB kit , damned , did CSX changed their chips on retail kit too or is it just a sample one ?

no its retail, GTR is out of, so new 2x1 kits has GTS now :)
yesterday tested a bit with it on P45 (P5Q3) and it goes really well...
1800 7-6-5-18 1.96v memtest stable

[tomati]

no its retail, GTR is out of, so new 2x1 kits has GTS now :)
yesterday tested a bit with it on P45 (P5Q3) and it goes really well...
1800 7-6-5-18 1.96v memtest stable

Great news,

you have a MP

[Oliver]

Sounds interesting about the gts kit Bala, will look forward to see more numbers

Keep pushing it

[BulldogPO]

Yes, my kit is also equiped with GTS chips.

[slim142]

18000 6-6-6 @ 1.90v haha if you will find a kit wich could do this tell me :D
1.9v in cas6? around 1600 i think, but only 2x1GB GTR or GTS from Diablos...

What was I thinking? :rolleyes:

As long as I get more than 12k on Everest Reading with no more than 1.90 I would be happy.

Does anybody know if this are coming any time to US? I had a phone number but the person does not answer :confused:

[Zeus]

Ordered 2x1GB kit, i hope they will be good with this Rampage Extreme, the results i see here make me drool. :)

[rabor]

Mine are dying on a Rampage Extreme. They did 2000+ MemTest86+ 10 passes when I got them, now they hardly hold up at 1800..

2nd pair for RMA..

[Zeus]

Mine are dying on a Rampage Extreme. They did 2000+ MemTest86+ 10 passes when I got them, now they hardly hold up at 1800..

2nd pair for RMA..

Uh? :(

At what voltage?

[slim142]

Well all the ROG Motherboards are known to be overvolting the RAM, so if u put in 1.90 in BIOS, it really is 1.96. Just imagine if you think you are running your RAM at 2.00....

[rabor]

I ran 'em under factory-specs (2.125V) at 1.98V max 24/7.

The Striker II Extreme overvolted .04 to .05V, the Rampage X doesn't.., it's spot on.

[Zeus]

That's what i thought, both the LCD poster and Asus Probe show about the same what i set in bios.

Didn't measure with DMM though,maybe someone can point me to the measure point for Vdimm?

Rabor, did you have active cooling over them?

[slim142]

Well, I know for sure I will put fans on top of them (OCZ RAM Fan)
Also, I will run them no higher than 1.90 (1.84 in BIOS)

This pair is expensive, and we all hate RMAs

[over@locker886]

I got new, 2GB Diablo3-2000Mhz kit (Micron D9GTS) from CSX.

Thank you Compustocx!;)

This new kit very powerful..:up:

2100Mhz 7-6-6-18 1T 2,262v , screenshot.

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/2077/2100766181t2262vzg3.jpg

2000Mhz 7-6-6-18 1T 2,183-2,196v, SPi 8M

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9366/2000766181t2183v2196v8mgr1.jpg

[Zeus]

Fantastic result man, can you do 32M 2000 7-6-6 too?

Rampage Extreme and this mem seems 2B the perfect combo! :up:

[tomati]

Hi,

OMG these D9GTS kit are awesome, they seems to be the only one that can bench at 2000 cas7 :slobber:


Tried first some stability on my D9GTR kit

My best so far: 1828 @ 2.1v 7-6-6-18-1T

http://pix.nofrag.com/7/a/1/1bdf51202608c4a0c5dfdd1b2e938tt.jpg (http://pix.nofrag.com/7/a/1/1bdf51202608c4a0c5dfdd1b2e938.html)

Stability at spec settings was fine too

1828 @ 1.9v 8-7-6-15-1T

http://pix.nofrag.com/b/3/b/6a4e7157ae97e74bd2805e4721b8att.jpg (http://pix.nofrag.com/b/3/b/6a4e7157ae97e74bd2805e4721b8a.html)

2000 @ 2.1v 8-7-6-19-1T worked too

But max cas 7 was a bit disappointed, only 1010 for my best stick ( 1003 for the other one) [7-6-6-15-1T with 2.2v] and not benchable :(

Tested on P5E3 Premium.

[Oliver]

its also depending on your board tomati, you need a good board to bench 1g+ cl7

but ya the sticks are amazing

[M3kk]

I got my 2 x 1G kit today too ( Diablo 2000 ), but they are with D9GTR :(.

Will test them later.

[Oliver]

doesn't mean they are bad m3kk ;)

[Kasparz]

Try 7-6-5-18 not 7-6-5-15 at 2GHz+. These IC's doesn't like very low TRAS at high speeds. And yes, good board and lots of voltage for MCH is a must for 2GHz cl7.