View Full Version : How much VTT do You push into 45nm....???
camouflage
06-11-2008, 08:18 AM
:D These days VTT becomes an important instrument when it comes to stable OCing.
But this voltage can also kill Your chip very soon if set too hi, INTEL recommends a max. of 1.45 - maybe up to 1.5 for a quick bench session.
So how much VTT do You push into Your 45nm chip ?
Please post only the max. & the duration - not Your safe 24/7 settings.
I.e. --------> 1.48 / 2 hours or 1.55 / 10 min. or 1.40 / always.
:welcome:
gilgamesh1
06-11-2008, 08:20 AM
:D These days VTT becomes an important instrument when it comes to stable OCing.
But this voltage can also kill Your chip very soon if set too hi, INTEL recommends a max. of 1.45 - maybe up to 1.5 for a quick bench session.
So how much VTT do You push into Your 45nm chip ?
Please post only the max. & the duration - not Your safe 24/7 settings.
I.e. --------> 1.48 / 2 hours or 1.55 / 10 min. or 1.40 / always.
:welcome:
as low as 1.3
gilgamesh
Eldonko
06-11-2008, 08:21 AM
1.5v max for benching, 1.2-1.3 24/7.
_Stelios_
06-11-2008, 08:25 AM
Usually i use 1.5 when it comes to benching.. My cpu gives ~10-15 fsb from 1.4 to 1.5V
Chri$ch
06-11-2008, 08:32 AM
on P35 Chipset max 1.30v (1.20v for 24/7). On P45 it need not more than 1.10v :D
BenchZowner
06-11-2008, 08:35 AM
I've tortured my Yorkfields and Wolfdales with voltages up to 1.56V.
Max period with 1.56V was about 2 hours of benching.
Max period with 1.44V was about... days of 24/7 running :D
After I'm done with my current QX ( find a good replacement ) I will try to kill the chip using VTT.
I'll let it run 24/7 loaded with various VTTs ( starting from 1.4V ) and see when and if it'll die.
Gr1mR34p3r
06-11-2008, 09:35 AM
1.20V-1.24V, max FSB with this board is only 480.
Leeghoofd
06-11-2008, 09:39 AM
I've tortured my Yorkfields and Wolfdales with voltages up to 1.56V.
Max period with 1.56V was about 2 hours of benching.
Max period with 1.44V was about... days of 24/7 running :D
After I'm done with my current QX ( find a good replacement ) I will try to kill the chip using VTT.
I'll let it run 24/7 loaded with various VTTs ( starting from 1.4V ) and see when and if it'll die.
At first thought I would have lended you my Qx but on a second thought I rather NOT :rofl:
Max I gave her was 1.6 for some short benchmark runs... run the quad daily at 1.2 and the Wolfies at 1.1...
mcoffey
06-11-2008, 10:43 AM
1.35 24/7 100% Bionic on my QX9770, EVGA 790i Ultra, OC'd 4.2 last 3 month
1.35 " " " " QX9650, EVGA 780i OC'd 4.125 last 8 months
Benching very's, but never over 1.45, but that's subject to change as I get board with things:)
andyc
loonym
06-11-2008, 10:48 AM
Max for my giga x48t is 1.45v and I use it all for some benching with x3360. Max for the msi 780i is a lowly 1.313v and that is maxed all the time with q9550, waiting for either giga or msi 790i for that cpu.
cadaveca
06-11-2008, 10:49 AM
1.4v max for me, did not notice any gains whatsoever, not even 1 mhz FSB. running @ 1.15v 24/7.
prime81
06-11-2008, 11:05 AM
I've been running my E8500 with 1.5 FSB VTT for around 2 months now...no issues thus far.
Buddy of mine has an E8400 he's had around 1.5VTT for around 6 months now at 4ghz with no issues.
Anyway I just lowered it to about 1.3 in BIOS producing 1.23 in windows @ 4ghz, still rock solid stability.
Running my Q9450 @ 3.8ghz with 1.32v VTT on my Ip35 Pro.
Had to run well over 1.4v at a far lower clock speed on the X38 Maximus for the 2 weeks I owned the board.
mrcape
06-11-2008, 11:39 AM
I always run it below 1.2v. Not for safety, but because that's where I get max FSB stability. Manually set GTLs and low VTT is better in my case all the way up to 580fsb.
Razer
06-11-2008, 04:43 PM
I'm runing my E8400 at 1.45v for benching, and around 1.2v for daily use.
jas420221
06-11-2008, 04:46 PM
1.5v max for benching, 1.2-1.3 24/7.:yepp:
After I'm done with my current QX ( find a good replacement ) I will try to kill the chip using VTT.
I'll let it run 24/7 loaded with various VTTs ( starting from 1.4V ) and see when and if it'll die.
What no! Send it to me if you would otherwise kill it! :yepp:
philbrown23
06-11-2008, 05:29 PM
my max is 1.56 for benching sometimes 6 hours at a time usually not more though yeilds about 15-20 fsb gain, not a lot b ut just enough. 1.32 for 24/7 lose that 15-20 though with that low.
I thought the maximum VTT was 1.15v for the 45nm cpu's? I used to run my system at 1.20v, but it is more stable at 1.10v. I run it at 513 x 8 = 4.1 GHz 24/7 with all the sub-voltages at their lowest levels.
BIOS SETTINGS:
cpu = 1.375v (1.35v under load)
ram = 2.0v (5-5-5-15 @ 1026 MHz)
NB = 1.25v
SB = 1.05v
VTT = 1.10v (FSB Term. voltage)
PLL = 1.50v
Performance Level = Enabled 2
Loadline calibration = Enabled (voltage damper)
Overcharge voltage = Disabled
CPU GTL = Auto
NB GTL = .61x
TouGe
06-11-2008, 05:51 PM
Right now I am sitting @ 1.16V vtt and have never gone above 1.24V.
Clint
06-11-2008, 09:03 PM
From what I understand 1.1v is default on my Gigabyte board, so my setting with +0.1v would give 1.2v then. This gives me a stable 467MHz FSB with my Q9300. Adding 0.1v gives another 15MHz. I believe 1.2v is within safe voltage.
BenchZowner
06-11-2008, 09:17 PM
@Clint:
VTT aka FSB Termination Voltage Defaults:
Intel Core 2 65nm Series: 1.2V
Intel Core 2 45nm Series: 1.1V
For the 65nm chips I'd say max safe is 1.55V, and for the 45nm chips 1.4V
DoObs
06-11-2008, 09:26 PM
MY DFI and VTT dont help my E8400 in benching ive seen it just makes in unstable over 1.3v
scooter.jay
06-12-2008, 01:29 AM
I stay below 1.45v if i can as too many stories of wolfies bitting the dust so i have done my best to keep it alive.
Clint
06-12-2008, 01:56 AM
@Clint:
VTT aka FSB Termination Voltage Defaults:
Intel Core 2 65nm Series: 1.2V
Intel Core 2 45nm Series: 1.1V
For the 65nm chips I'd say max safe is 1.55V, and for the 45nm chips 1.4V
Thanks for the input.:up:
That means I can set it to + 0.2v and feel pretty safe then?
I'm not really clear on FSB voltage in my boards bios is the same as FSB Termination Voltage, but it sure helps the OC with a few MHz.
BenchZowner
06-12-2008, 06:09 AM
FSB Voltage = FSB Termination Voltage ;)
Yes, you can set it to +0.2V and not worry about your CPU at all :)
camouflage
06-13-2008, 06:18 AM
:eek: Wow, just got my new E8400 - booting into WINDOWS 8x500 & 9x500 1:2 divider @ only 1.1 VTT.......:clap:
Never had a chip doing this..............;)
Hyperhorn
06-13-2008, 06:35 AM
Had my Q9300(ES) @air just a few hours @1.45 (=max. on P5B), but would not go above 1.3V for daily use.
It's better to have a nice combination of CPU + mainboard/ chipset, than too much VTT. :yepp:
eva2000
06-13-2008, 06:56 AM
since 45nm cpus, i've used between 1.1-1.35v because there hasn't been much noticeable gain past that for me on air/water on various boards
camouflage
06-13-2008, 02:16 PM
:D Here's the screen with 1.1 VTT:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/7082/8x563pi7.th.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=8x563pi7.jpg)
:eek::up::eek:
camouflage
06-16-2008, 08:04 AM
:D And here's another one 1.10 VTT @ 8x580:shocked::
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/3781/8x580pg7.th.jpg (http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=8x580pg7.jpg)
So I think it all depends on the CPU........;)
:welcome:
soapman72
06-16-2008, 08:34 AM
I run my E8400 @ 3.8ghz with VTT set to 1.10v and Vcore @ 1.294v (load). Seems totally stable without bumping VTT. Stable for at least 5 hours on Prime that is.
sirrealist
06-16-2008, 01:27 PM
:D And here's another one 1.10 VTT @ 8x580:shocked::
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/3781/8x580pg7.th.jpg (http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=8x580pg7.jpg)
So I think it all depends on the CPU........;)
:welcome:
:eek:
Wow.. that is ridiculous. Thats not 24/7 stable, is it?
Congrats on that man. Is it the x48 chipset that lets you set memory dividers? I cant push my FSB over 533 since the lowest I can go is 1:1 and thats the most my RAM will take.
HDCHOPPER
06-16-2008, 01:52 PM
well eye have tried up to 1.6.v..just a copula min to try it
but what works best has been default 1.2v 24/7 (lo as my board goes) believe it or not
camouflage
06-18-2008, 03:09 PM
:D My new E8400 is a very strange chip - doing this with only 1.10 VTT:
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/3781/8x580pg7.th.jpg (http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=8x580pg7.jpg)
But @ 1.12 VTT it doesn't even boot..............:eek:
:welcome:
whatever
06-18-2008, 03:20 PM
E8200 550 FSB:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=373214
VID: 1.0625 + 0.150V in BIOS. CPUZ shows me 1.256V.
VTT: 1.1V
camouflage
06-18-2008, 03:34 PM
E8200 550 FSB:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=373214
VID: 1.0625 + 0.150V in BIOS. CPUZ shows me 1.256V.
VTT: 1.1V
:D Nice - so it's a kind of weird, some chips need more than 1.4 VTT to do 500FSB & others run 550 - 580 with only 1.1:rolleyes:.
So I think it becomes more & more important not only to get a low Vcore chip but also a low VTT chip..........;)
:welcome:
giorgos th.
06-18-2008, 03:51 PM
1.54V max for benching sessions..
cadaveca
06-18-2008, 04:12 PM
1.64 for 8 hours yesterday by mistake...no real load though.
BenchZowner
06-18-2008, 05:30 PM
LOL gj cadaveca :D
Next mistake 1.7V please :p:
cadaveca
06-18-2008, 05:35 PM
I've actually got some instability now, I'm hoping it's corrupt OS.:confused:
BenchZowner
06-18-2008, 05:38 PM
Hope it's not a "dead" CPU m8.
Good luck.
HDCHOPPER
06-19-2008, 01:36 AM
is thier any app for reading VTT ?? other than haveing to read bios
camouflage
06-19-2008, 02:08 AM
is thier any app for reading VTT ?? other than haveing to read bios
:D If Your BIOS can read VTT You can use EVEREST in WINDOWS to show VTT.;)
e8400 Q746A616 @ 1.2-1.3v vfsb for benching (can't really go below that for big fsb because of p5k mobo bios)
I thought the maximum VTT was 1.15v for the 45nm cpu's? I used to run my system at 1.20v, but it is more stable at 1.10v. I run it at 513 x 8 = 4.1 GHz 24/7 with all the sub-voltages at their lowest levels.
BIOS SETTINGS:
cpu = 1.375v (1.35v under load)
ram = 2.0v (5-5-5-15 @ 1026 MHz)
NB = 1.25v
SB = 1.05v
VTT = 1.10v (FSB Term. voltage)
PLL = 1.50v
Performance Level = Enabled 2
Loadline calibration = Enabled (voltage damper)
Overcharge voltage = Disabled
CPU GTL = Auto
NB GTL = .61x
at that fsb you are NOT running the lowest voltages with the p5k. take out a multimeter, i'm guessing (;)) you are running vnb @ 1.55v+, vtt @ 1.3v at best, and a pll of 1.7v+ in reality.
asus bios are like that:down:
LOL gj cadaveca :D
Next mistake 1.7V please :p:
Oh lordy. I wasn't going to admit to this but 2 weeks ago I flashed from bios 403 back to 219 on my maximus Rampage. I was consuming adult beverages while re-establishing my previously stable clock on a Friday tequila night. At some point during the session, the vtt got changed to 2.0. It was completely unintentional. :rolleyes: I'm not sure at what point it in the session it was changed but it ran a minimum of 35 minutes at full load and possibly as long as 2 hours. :shocked: I wouldn't have even noticed if I wasn't showing the vtt in the Everest sidebar option. I was double checking voltages because I was satisfied i had a nice stable clock. :eek: Don't drink and OC at the same time! ;) No apparent damage. Chip is doing fine. :)
cadaveca
06-19-2008, 06:54 AM
Same culprit for VTT volts here..damn maximus bios is pretty flakey sometimes. That was on bios 1201...must be an issue with the board itself, rather than specific bios revision.
BenchZowner
06-19-2008, 07:14 AM
Oh lordy. I wasn't going to admit to this but 2 weeks ago I flashed from bios 403 back to 219 on my maximus Rampage. I was consuming adult beverages while re-establishing my previously stable clock on a Friday tequila night. At some point during the session, the vtt got changed to 2.0. It was completely unintentional. :rolleyes: I'm not sure at what point it in the session it was changed but it ran a minimum of 35 minutes at full load and possibly as long as 2 hours. :shocked: I wouldn't have even noticed if I wasn't showing the vtt in the Everest sidebar option. I was double checking voltages because I was satisfied i had a nice stable clock. :eek: Don't drink and OC at the same time! ;) No apparent damage. Chip is doing fine. :)
LOL, nice one :D
Don't drink and OC at the same time! ;)
Doesn't matter to me... I'm feeding my HW with the same crazy voltages totally sober or not :p: ( If I'm not totally sober, I bet I won't be near a computer at the given time :p: )
Dak9767
06-19-2008, 07:18 AM
1.6v @ 4.5Ghz on water for benching only.
camouflage
06-19-2008, 08:16 AM
1.6v @ 4.5Ghz on water for benching only.
:eek: Wow - You really picked up a hungry beast there...............:p:
BenchZowner
06-19-2008, 08:38 AM
1.6v @ 4.5Ghz on water for benching only.
Are you referring to VTT Voltage aka FSB Termination Voltage or CPU Voltage ( Vcore ) ?
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