ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[Simps]

This is the best board arround!

[WhiteFireDragon]

which new BIOS are you guys trying out? should i try out 1501 or 1403?

[Nunzi]

1501

[WhiteFireDragon]

i just flashed to 1501, but it seems every time i change some kind of setting from default, the new setting would not save to the BIOS and i would get an error saying to press F1 for setup or F2 to load defaults. anyone else having this problem?

i can't flash back to any previous version BIOS either. i'll probably just switch back to the other ROM until there's a solution for this

[Grnfinger]

i just flashed to 1501, but it seems every time i change some kind of setting from default, the new setting would not save to the BIOS and i would get an error saying to press F1 for setup or F2 to load defaults. anyone else having this problem?

i can't flash back to any previous version BIOS either. i'll probably just switch back to the other ROM until there's a solution for this

I flash with AFUDOS version 229ES and have no problems.
I would recommend making a bootable USB stick and tossing AFUDOS on it

[Guacamole]

Is anybody running this board with a quad and 8gigs of memory could you please post your settings??

[clip]

So, whats all this rack mounted stuff all about then : )

[psygnosi]

Is anybody running this board with a quad and 8gigs of memory could you please post your settings??


I'm running 8 gigs of Kingston HyperX without any problems. Running 4.0 Ghz as well. Set 1, 3, 5 on SATA ACHI ports and running bios 1501. I have my settings listed here in a previous post. Cryptik helped me get my system stable.

:D

[Nunzi]

Her's what I use, nothing special Hope it helps:)

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1088
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : normal
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : normal

DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time :auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) :auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
Write to PRE Delay : auto
Read to PRE Delay : auto
PRE to PRE Delay : auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : AUTO
MEM OC Charger : enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
FSBT : 1.3285
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
North Bridge Voltage : 1.312
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 2 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[Teppo]

Sorry to get a little off topic here, but maybe I am just being anal about this, but does anyone notice when booting up after bios screen then screen goes black it seems to take a while to actually get to windows log on and this is where I am being anal, awhile being 15 seconds or so, or is this just normal? Would there be any setting on the mobo that could speed this up?

[Grnfinger]

Sorry to get a little off topic here, but maybe I am just being anal about this, but does anyone notice when booting up after bios screen then screen goes black it seems to take a while to actually get to windows log on and this is where I am being anal, awhile being 15 seconds or so, or is this just normal? Would there be any setting on the mobo that could speed this up?

Its all part of the Maximus experience :rofl:

[Teppo]

Its all part of the Maximus experience :rofl:

I take that as a NO :)

[Sem]

Sorry to get a little off topic here, but maybe I am just being anal about this, but does anyone notice when booting up after bios screen then screen goes black it seems to take a while to actually get to windows log on and this is where I am being anal, awhile being 15 seconds or so, or is this just normal? Would there be any setting on the mobo that could speed this up?

that used to annoy me as well
what i do is change the boot device priority to Hard disk as the first one with everything else disabled

that should speed it up

if you need to boot from a cd just press F8 at start up

[DSL_PWR]

Is anyone having sound card issues with this board? I seem to be getting a constant lag and ticking in music and when playing games. What would cause this? I am at a loss to figure it out.. Been doing some searching but not coming up with much...

[ATLNY]

I am currently runing this setup on my E8400 (stable)
how much changes I have to make to get this to run on the Q9550 cpu when I get
I know the multiplier is 8.5

[QUOTE=CryptiK;3289895]This is an adapted version of my setting for 4GHz with an 8400 for you to try.



Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 445
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-892 MHz (ie: 1:1 ratio)
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Normal
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Dram Read Training : disabled
MEM OC Charger : disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level: 10 (lowest you can set is 10 on 1:1 ratio)

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.3500v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.51325v
FSBT : 1.2v
DRAM Voltage : 2.1v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.32v
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 2 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[Sem]

seem to be having stability problems in XP

my system is rock stable in vista 64
it passed 20 hours prime blend and 20 passes of linpack 64

but when ever i try to run prime on XP 32 the system hard locks within 1-2 hours

is it because its not a fresh install?

i installed it originally with a DFI x48 then installed a striker ii extreme then the maximus ii formula

i plan to do a clean install i just want to get the system stable first

:confused::(

[Guacamole]

Her's what I use, nothing special Hope it helps:)

Thanks Nunzi I appreciate it, tried it but no go with 8 gigs but I have figured out with the Q9550 and 8gigs that to get 4.0 I have to run on the 1:1 divider I am testing right now but seems to be doing well..

[Nunzi]

Guacomole, try 445fsb with the same settings

[Vega]

ATM I use this settings but I plan to increase the multiple to hit 4.5GHz. If this is stable I only have to increase Vcore when I change to mult. x8.5 and x9, right?




Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 500
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000 MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Normal
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Dram Read Training : disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enable
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level: Auto

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.2500v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50v
FSBT : 1.30v
DRAM Voltage : 2.18v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.34v
South Bridge Voltage 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 2 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
[/QUOTE]

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[Grnfinger]

ATM I use this settings but I plan to increase the multiple to hit 4.5GHz. If this is stable I only have to increase Vcore when I change to mult. x8.5 and x9, right?


NB volts might have to be increased.
FSBT looks ok and PLL should work.

You should take the time to to get the other values off auto, you might be surprised at what you hardware can do.

[humeyboy]

I'm at 400FSB with lowest possible Chipset Voltages etc but cannot get 500FSB stable (for any length of time) no matter what I try.

Again I know its some setting I'm missing.

I do not understand why I do not have this line bellow :


Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO <<<<< THIS is missing.

Is it because I have changed another setting or on newer bios ?.

[vab206]

i need some help getting my cpu and ram to work @ 1:1... i know that may be pushing what i have on air, but if someone has a spec (lol) for this mobo that is working on a 1:1 CPU:RAM ratio could you please either post it or pm me to see. im in the midst of converting to 24/7 phase, which im dreading considering how tight everything is packed around the socket on this mobo, if someone knows of someone who is running phase on the m2f then please point me in their direction as well, specs are as follows

e8400
4x1gb corsair dominator ddr21066 5-5-5-15
m2f
hd4870

i also am having a pretty big issue with the sound on this mobo, everything works fine until i install the creative suite... then it fubars it all. anyone had this problem?

[Vega]

NB volts might have to be increased.
FSBT looks ok and PLL should work.

You should take the time to to get the other values off auto, you might be surprised at what you hardware can do.

Yes you are right there. I installed this mobo just some days ago so I have very much to learn. I was a DFI fan before so this bios it new for me you see.... :)
If you want to help so please enlighten me!! :yepp:

[GeorgeVasil]

Preparation for a Phase..

http://www.outofspecs.gr/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4668&d=1226322164

http://www.outofspecs.gr/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4669&d=1226322164

http://www.outofspecs.gr/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4670&d=1226322164

http://www.outofspecs.gr/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4673&d=1226322164

After 12h of playing with this mobo...

32m >530 FSB was impossible..

1Μ>584 was impossible

600*8 1M PL 13 was possible..

1 have tested 2 8400's 746A..both of them stopped FSB 585 1M and FSB 530 32M. Maybe i run out of cpu fsb or this mobo is chiquita aprroved..and it not worth's to take place at the 200$ budjet range.I tried several settings..several voltages ...several GTL settings..32M>530=no go.

Next week i will try with other Cpu's..

For the history..:p:

http://www.outofspecs.gr/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4674&d=1226322759

[sladden]

Hi all!:confused:
Saw a strange thing today thayt i had no noticed before.One memory is marked as a PC-8500 and the other one is PC-6400...it is bought as Corsair Dominator TWIN2X8500C5DF 4096MB, DDR2, 2x2GB(KIT), DHX, E.P.P, with FAN,is it motherboard that is f***** up or is there a chance that the PC-6400 modul is mismarked as a PC-8500?Have some other computer i could chek it in but it is a bad time for that now because i had a broken right arm...:(..just wanted to hear what you are thinking..Lars

Have it checked by everest,cpu-id,and mem set 3,5...they all say 1 pc-8500,1 pc-6400

[Copenhagen69]

whats the label say on both sticks?

ram can be installed with 1 hand :)

its probably just a glitch but i would install in another computer just to check

[sladden]

Label says PC-8500...but there is this shield on...dominator you know...changed bios to 1501.....no difference...maybe thats why i cant get stable at 8,5x471...will test soon in my q6600....Lars

[sladden]

sh** out of luck....it says same thing in other rig (q6600,Asus P5K)..had those dominators earlier in a my third comp.(E8400@4.05....+Gigabyte EP-35 DS4..thats why i havent noticed it earlier...i run that cpu 9*450)..thought that it was strange,couldnt get stable at 4+ Ghz with my Q9550 ...only at 3,8..its a E0 and its stable at 8,5*450 50 times in Intel Burn Test with vCore 1,3 V.Coretemp is then 72,64,64,64...think i can run this cpu at at least 8,5*500....if the formula ll rampageboard will pass 500...just have to go to store and change the dominators...hope i can find my receipt
(Must been some big misses in factory....CORSAIR...labeling pc-6400 to pc-8500...then sell them in pair like 2*8500...Twinx)

[Grnfinger]

sh** out of luck....it says same thing in other rig (q6600,Asus P5K)..had those dominators earlier in a my third comp.(E8400@4.05....+Gigabyte EP-35 DS4..thats why i havent noticed it earlier...i run that cpu 9*450)..thought that it was strange,couldnt get stable at 4+ Ghz with my Q9550 ...only at 3,8..its a E0 and its stable at 8,5*450 50 times in Intel Burn Test with vCore 1,3 V.Coretemp is then 72,64,64,64...think i can run this cpu at at least 8,5*500....if the formula ll rampageboard will pass 500...just have to go to store and change the dominators...hope i can find my receipt
(Must been some big misses in factory....CORSAIR...labeling pc-6400 to pc-8500...then sell them in pair like 2*8500...Twinx)

CPUZ ( depending on what version ) has a bug and shows 8500 ram as 6400
If your really concerned talk to yellowbeard or ramguy in the Corsair forums
www.houseofhelp.com, they lurk on the XS corsair thread but not sure how often they respond there.

[zlojack]

That's strange Sladden.

1066 MHz RAM is just 800MHz RAM that's rated to run higher. So the programs often read it at 800 MHz RAM.

However, if it's not labelled the same, I'd take some photos and show them to Yellowbeard or the Ramguy, for sure.

[sladden]

Yes...but everest and mem set showed one pc-6400 and one pc-8500...then i find some old crucial ballistiX pc-8500...ran 5 times intel burn test at 8,5X471....just fine...cant imagine the dominators are worse..must be like i suspect..1 is a 6400 and the other 8500...both marked pc-8500 and sold as twinx..well im happy for the 4GHz+ anyway i am at 1.3750 vCore,1,63 pll,1,37825 fsb TermVolt,1,51 NBvoltage Mem oc charger enabled ..all other disabled or auto,will have too see how long im prime95 stable...hope for 24 hours

[Vega]

My Dominators also identified as PC6400 so dont care about it.

[sladden]

Ok...but i do...especially when they cant do 471 Mhz....thats crap...thought they would at least do 500Mhz...have my old crucial ballistiX up in 490x8,5 atm...only 1.3750vCore and 2.2 dram voltage..not bad for a Quad 9550 and 3 years old memorymoduls....sad that they only are 1Gb-modules

[zlojack]

471 FSB with a quad puts a lot of stress on your NB.

I wouldn't be so quick to condemn the RAM. What other settings are you running? But I would definitely check out the fact that the sticker says 6400 with Yellowbeard (He has an account here too, so you could PM him)

[Grnfinger]

My Dominators will do 1225MHz all damn day long @ 2.2 volts
You should look at NB volts higher FSB as Jack said will tax the NB harder, depending on what trd setting you have and clock twister you might just need a NB volt increase.

Not a good idea to PM corsair reps, its kinda against the rules.

[WhiteFireDragon]

i currently have my CPU fan connected to a fan controller instead of the mobo, so every time i boot, it says "CPU fan error" which adds an extra 4 sec to booting. is there any way i can disable this detection in the BIOS? if not, is there any way i can put a jumper to connect any of the CPU fan pins on the mobo to trick it into thinking there's a fan there?

[nettwerk2006]

i currently have my CPU fan connected to a fan controller instead of the mobo, so every time i boot, it says "CPU fan error" which adds an extra 4 sec to booting. is there any way i can disable this detection in the BIOS? if not, is there any way i can put a jumper to connect any of the CPU fan pins on the mobo to trick it into thinking there's a fan there?

you'll need to go into the hardware monitoring section in the bios, and just change the cpu fan to ignore.

[Vega]

My Dominators will do 1225MHz all damn day long @ 2.2 volts
You should look at NB volts higher FSB as Jack said will tax the NB harder, depending on what trd setting you have and clock twister you might just need a NB volt increase.

Not a good idea to PM corsair reps, its kinda against the rules.

Can you share your mem.settings please? I have everything on auto exept for 5-5-5-15-3-50 so give me something to start with. I will use 1:1, 533fsb.

[sladden]

heres some link about memory...http://www.corsair.com/_datasheets/TWIN2X2048-8500C5D.pdf
notice this lines..in data sheet
Two matched CM2X1024-8500C5D modules
100% tested at 1066MHz in high performance
DDR2 motherboards.....
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[CryptiK]

Preparation for a Phase..


After 12h of playing with this mobo...

32m >530 FSB was impossible..

1Μ>584 was impossible

600*8 1M PL 13 was possible..

1 have tested 2 8400's 746A..both of them stopped FSB 585 1M and FSB 530 32M. Maybe i run out of cpu fsb or this mobo is chiquita aprroved..and it not worth's to take place at the 200$ budjet range.I tried several settings..several voltages ...several GTL settings..32M>530=no go.

Next week i will try with other Cpu's..

For the history..:p:


I can do 534 FSB dual SPI 32M stable, I can also run orthos at that speed.


http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/534FSB4GHzDualSPI32M5-5-5-12PL10.jpg

Perhaps it is your cpu's?

[Kayso]

:confused:
My Dominators will do 1225MHz all damn day long @ 2.2 volts
You should look at NB volts higher FSB as Jack said will tax the NB harder, depending on what trd setting you have and clock twister you might just need a NB volt increase.

Not a good idea to PM corsair reps, its kinda against the rules.

First I want to say, hi to everybody, because I'm a newbie here :) I have read XSForums from long time, but this is my first post here. I will try to do my best to help members and be good member too :)

I need now some help. I have Maximus 2 Formula (my system is in my signature) and I want to overclock my memory a little bit.

I have TWIN2X2048-8500C5D, what timings and voltage will u suggest for better preformance ? Because this motherboard have a lot of options :confused:

Thanks in advance !!

P.S. This Motherboard ROCKS !!!! My CPU is rock stable at 7*500 FSB ! Awesome ! But I think is too much FSB for 24/7 work :)

[GeorgeVasil]

I can do 534 FSB dual SPI 32M stable, I can also run orthos at that speed.


http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/534FSB4GHzDualSPI32M5-5-5-12PL10.jpg

Perhaps it is your cpu's?

I dont know my friend..

! have tried several ranges of voltages..

Cpu : max 1.84
Pll :1.53-1.65
VTT: 1.34-1.45
nb: 1.35-1.65

So i did for the CPU gtls..

1 thing i should Mention i that the mobo cant post with the Pcie ex >100 (105-108 for ex) >500 FSB.

Also i had better results with low vtt and gtl on auto.

[Grnfinger]

IMO the bios is in its infancy stages, once Asus gets there act together this board should do rather well.

Dram clock skew doesnt work as well as it should, pull-ins do not work, so in all honesty can you say for sure that GTL's are working correctly?
I tried for days to get 4.0GHz stable with no luck, setting GTL's with positive values and negative values still didnt help, if anything it made matter worse.
GTL's on auto and I had the chip stable in 20 mins. Now the rumor is the next bios release will include further overclocking options...more that wont work I assume
Asus has done a stellar job with the eye candy on this board, now if the could do the same with bios support I think we would have a winner here.

[screwtech02]

Man, you said "Asus" and "support"..... :ROTF::ROTF::ROTF::ROTF:

[Vega]

What is a safe 24/7 voltage for NB on this board.
I use 1.41V (in bios) and quess that is ok. On my old chipset (x48) up to 1.6V was safe.

ATM this is my settings..

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[sladden]

Thank you Grnfinger and zlojack for the tip about houseoffhelp.....got an RMA from Ramguy..np there.....Lars

[Vega]

Ok...but i do...especially when they cant do 471 Mhz....thats crap...thought they would at least do 500Mhz...have my old crucial ballistiX up in 490x8,5 atm...only 1.3750vCore and 2.2 dram voltage..not bad for a Quad 9550 and 3 years old memorymoduls....sad that they only are 1Gb-modules

Have you tryed both the blue and white mem. slots?

[sladden]

Yes...did that today...tried Memtest aswell....70 errors in test 7 at only 943MHz(2x471 MHz)....they are suppose to be tested at 1066MHz(2x533)so after that test i got my RMA

[e.v.o]

http://www.asktheramguy.com/v3/showthread.php?t=57334

Here is a list of ICs used on corsair modules, maybe it's helpful to determine the oc potential of your chips...

Can someone list all bugs and things that are not working properly on the board and can be refered as bios related problems?

[GeorgeVasil]

http://www.asktheramguy.com/v3/showthread.php?t=57334
Can someone list all bugs and things that are not working properly on the board and can be refered as bios related problems?

Sata Ports Hungs @ Last Bioses

The vNB - vFSB >= 0.11-0.15.Other wise Mobo Hungs on restart

Pull-ins not working..

With LoadLine Calibration enabled the Mobo if u give 1.7v to cpu mobo overvoltage's to 1.84v.

Pcie>100Mhz >500FSB --> No post..

thats for me..

[JoeBar]

Pcie>100Mhz >500FSB --> No post..
I can confirm it also and it's pretty annoying... :mad:

[SiGfever]

I can confirm it also and it's pretty annoying... :mad:

Hello Joe, long time no see. Glad to see you posting again my friend.

[e.v.o]

Why would you increase PCIe? Normally you set it to 100 and leave it that way (for a good reason..). So i don't think thats an issue of the board.

Also, normally you will disable LLC if you do really extrem OC where you need such high vCores. But, is this confirmed? Do you have some Screens or anything like that?

[Grnfinger]

Why would you increase PCIe? Normally you set it to 100 and leave it that way (for a good reason..). So i don't think thats an issue of the board.

Also, normally you will disable LLC if you do really extrem OC where you need such high vCores. But, is this confirmed? Do you have some Screens or anything like that?

I have yet to see this over volt issue, but I have only been as high as 1.60 vCore.
I can confirm Pull-ins are not working and it would be very nice if they started to work:D
I can boot with PCI-E set to 103 up till 495 fsb after that it wont post unless its set to 100.
Have never had the FSBT, NB volt hang issue that others speak of, but thats not to say is not present. Cryptik has tested this issue and I would take his word as truth.
The port hang from the last 2 bios release was a major dissapointment to us Raid users so it would be nice if that could be corrected for the next release unless this is Asus way of forcing the Speeding HDD option on us:rofl:

Bios is maturing but the options that make this board a ROG line are not function properly and this need to be address'd accordingly.
Would hate to have to jump ship and fly the Gigabyte flag :ROTF:

[SiGfever]

IMO the bios is in its infancy stages, once Asus gets there act together this board should do rather well.

Dram clock skew doesnt work as well as it should, pull-ins do not work, so in all honesty can you say for sure that GTL's are working correctly?
I tried for days to get 4.0GHz stable with no luck, setting GTL's with positive values and negative values still didnt help, if anything it made matter worse.
GTL's on auto and I had the chip stable in 20 mins. Now the rumor is the next bios release will include further overclocking options...more that wont work I assume
Asus has done a stellar job with the eye candy on this board, now if the could do the same with bios support I think we would have a winner here.
So you run them on Auto now?

[screwtech02]

Why would you increase PCIe? Normally you set it to 100 and leave it that way (for a good reason..). So i don't think thats an issue of the board.

Also, normally you will disable LLC if you do really extrem OC where you need such high vCores. But, is this confirmed? Do you have some Screens or anything like that?

Setting it higher will gain you greater bandwidth on the pci-e i do believe. It certainly incresed my 03/06 scores on my X38 chipset, most ive been able to bet outa this MFII is 105.....:shakes:

And Asus says that they dont support "overclocking", maybe they need to work on "bios engeineering".....:ROTF:

[EaglePC]

Hi gays,

I have just put in this baby in my rig and have some questions. I went from DFI X48 T2R.

ATM I use the white slots for Dimm, is that ok?
What I can see people recommend bios 1307, right?
Does Asus prope and bios read right temps on this board, my cpu temps is way higher than with DFI?
Does this board like NB voltage? I will go for ~4.4-4.5Ghz for 24/7 use....

Of course I come back later with full bios settings when its starting... :)
FORGET IT SATA 2 HANG just like 1403:rofl:

[vab206]

w00t finally got my rig stable @ 1:1 ratio, running 533FSB w/ 7.5 multi, (dosent like 8) only changed the bare minimums from auto like dram timings, pl, fsb, cpu ratio. voltages are:

CPU Voltage: 1.35000
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.60600
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.25900
DRAM Voltage: 2.10475 (as listed on my ram)
NorthBridge Voltage: 1.35175
CPU GTL Refrence (1): +40mV (left this setting from previous OC, could probably set it to auto as well)

Dram Static Read, Dram Read Training, Load Line Calibration, CPU Spread Spectrum, PCI-e Spread Spectrum all set to disable.

PL is set to 10 (lowest i can get it /sadface)
Mem OC Charger is Enabled

Clock twister is set to moderate, ive never been able to boot with anything over that, anyone have a suggestion on what i can change to get to to strong or stronger, every other setting is set to auto.

May try 1.4 or 1.45 vcore tomorrow to see if i can get it 533x8 stable, temps are @ 66C under full load, 50C idle... if it raises too much w/ that vcore i may just wait til i get my SS running.

man its gonna be a pita to insulate this board... /facepalm

[e.v.o]

Do other Boards make higher PCIe Frequencies?
There are many devices connected to the PCIe bus and if you overclock them, they could become instable.
So if you put your System back to 333/400 FSB and test this behavior again, i would think it would also drop out at ~105MHz. Can you confirm that?

[Vega]

FORGET IT SATA 2 HANG just like 1403:rofl:

I have no problem at all with bios 1307...so far! :yepp:

[humeyboy]

I used to run 101 or 105 or 110 PCI-E on my Striker Extreme (680I), it was not to get more out GPU but it seems to help stabilise high FSB OC's (pure example, you crash at 450FSB but set PCI-E to above 100 and its now stable).

115 is about the Max Safe level most peep will sue going by reading over the eyars.

[CryptiK]

w00t finally got my rig stable @ 1:1 ratio, running 533FSB w/ 7.5 multi, (dosent like 8) only changed the bare minimums from auto like dram timings, pl, fsb, cpu ratio. voltages are:

CPU Voltage: 1.35000
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.60600
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.25900
DRAM Voltage: 2.10475 (as listed on my ram)
NorthBridge Voltage: 1.35175
CPU GTL Refrence (1): +40mV (left this setting from previous OC, could probably set it to auto as well)

Dram Static Read, Dram Read Training, Load Line Calibration, CPU Spread Spectrum, PCI-e Spread Spectrum all set to disable.

PL is set to 10 (lowest i can get it /sadface)
Mem OC Charger is Enabled

Clock twister is set to moderate, ive never been able to boot with anything over that, anyone have a suggestion on what i can change to get to to strong or stronger, every other setting is set to auto.

May try 1.4 or 1.45 vcore tomorrow to see if i can get it 533x8 stable, temps are @ 66C under full load, 50C idle... if it raises too much w/ that vcore i may just wait til i get my SS running.

man its gonna be a pita to insulate this board... /facepalm

I have run 533FSB PL8 and Ram @ 639.6 MHz, Clock Twister = Stronger, Static read enabled, dram read training enabled. Don't be afraid of vNB if you want to stabilize it.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3385999&postcount=1589

[WaterFlex]

CryptiK
Mega 24/7 setup. GJ !

[JoeBar]

Hello Joe, long time no see. Glad to see you posting again my friend.
Hi m8! :toast:
Nice seeing familiar faces... :D


Why would you increase PCIe? Normally you set it to 100 and leave it that way (for a good reason..). So i don't think thats an issue of the board.

Do other Boards make higher PCIe Frequencies?
There are many devices connected to the PCIe bus and if you overclock them, they could become instable.
U get a performance boost in vga an hd. No it is an issue, cause u aren't limited by the connected devices but from the mb itself...
Yes, every board that i had for the last 3 years run @ 110mhz pcie.

[JoeBar]

BTW this is my stable settings, till now... :)


http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/5791/orthos45ghzrbu5.jpg (http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=orthos45ghzrbu5.jpg)
http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/orthos45ghzrbu5.jpg/1/w1280.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img389/orthos45ghzrbu5.jpg/1/)

[WaterFlex]

JoeBar
Wow. Nice one. Can you share your Bios settings of this, please?

[JoeBar]

JoeBar
Wow. Nice one. Can you share your Bios settings of this, please?
The most important ones.

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]
PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.375v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50v
Vtt : 1.4180v
DRAM Voltage : 2.10v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.52v
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.12v

All other on auto and timings are 5-5-5-15

[WaterFlex]

Thank you. Will try it soon.

[JoeBar]

U're welcome. :)

Here's everest mem bench run

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/8383/everestog3.jpg (http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=everestog3.jpg)
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/everestog3.jpg/1/w541.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img519/everestog3.jpg/1/)

[WaterFlex]

If I were you, I`d go to 600 Mhz memory. If you do it, you can advance you PL from 10 to 9, because NB blocks low PL on ratio 1:1. You will have something like my 10500 Read

[JoeBar]

Thanks for the advice. :)
I haven't yet fully tuned my system. I was planning on testing 1200mhz mem but i don't think that my 2x2gb pc8500 mushkins will be stable...
I'll give it a shot though...

[Grnfinger]

Thanks for the advice. :)
I haven't yet fully tuned my system. I was planning on testing 1200mhz mem but i don't think that my 2x2gb pc8500 mushkins will be stable...
I'll give it a shot though...

You can get those Mushkin's to 1200MHz with this

Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 350ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 350ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 65
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 10
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 16
Read to PRE Delay : 6
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

I have 2x2 Mushkin XP2-8500 and they hit 1200MHZ stable with that setup @ 2.2 volts. You take a slight read bandwidth hit but nothing serious

[JoeBar]

I should cut the scotch... :p:

Just realized that i'm @ 530mhz fsb (not 500x9), which gives me 1280mhz as the next available option and no go for my mushkins.

I will take the time and test 500x9 with 1200mhz mem and see the performance diffs, although i prefer 530mhz for now... :)

[WaterFlex]

500x9 with 1200mhz mem would be the best for 24/7, mate :)

[WaterFlex]

You can get those Mushkin's to 1200MHz with this

Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 350ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 350ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 65
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 10
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 16
Read to PRE Delay : 6
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

I have 2x2 Mushkin XP2-8500 and they hit 1200MHZ stable with that setup @ 2.2 volts. You take a slight read bandwidth hit but nothing serious

Marked 2nd info will decrease READ to 9700-9800. Better to use AUTO.

[JoeBar]

500x9 with 1200mhz mem would be the best for 24/7, mate :)

Will surely test it... :)

[Grnfinger]

Marked 2nd info will decrease READ to 9700-9800. Better to use AUTO.

Umm relaxing the timing is how they get stable, hence my comment on the slight read bandwidth hit.:rolleyes:

[seban]

Hi,

It is my first post I believe so hello everybody :D (ups it is not my first post obviously).

I assembled yesterday MF2 with rest of stuff - no HDD yet :D - and in bios I can see that all voltages are quiet fluctuating, constantly changing. Do you also have like this. Do the bios readings are like this on this MB or is it my new Elitextreme 800w not as good as advertised.

My old Topower P6 520W single 12v rail was keeping rock solid voltages on DFI NF4 (both bios and software readings).

Cheers

[CryptiK]

Mine fluctuate a little, flick back and forth but not large changes. If yours is having large changes it is an issue, but if its just very small changes don't worry it's normal.

[seban]

Hi CryptiK,

Will check how big fluctuations are, but I remember one of values (i think it was Cpu PPL) was going from 1.xx to -1.xx sometimes for fracture of second :eek:.

Cheers

[humeyboy]

Bios 1602 is up on the Asus FTP dated 13th. :)

[genec57]

1602 is good so far - RAID 0 is fine.

[e.v.o]

[ 1602 ]
----------------------
1. Fix Intel 45nm Quad Core CPU ustability issue
2. Fix show wrong Vcore in AI Suite
3. Fix it take too many time to detect SATA Device under AHCI Mode

Maximus_II_Formula/Maximus-II-ASUS-Formula-1602.zip (http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_II_Formula/Maximus-II-ASUS-Formula-1602.zip)

[humeyboy]

Ok I ain't pulled the Batt and reset Cmos fully yet (too busy) but 1602 sticks my Multi to 10x for any settings I change it to.

I cant boot up with 500FSB and say 7 Multi cause it will actually be 5.0GHZ as its 10x Multi.

EDIT: Damn Asus N00bs, they have broken the Multi, I cannot change it to anything, it sticks at 10x.:down:

[radaja]

I GOT MY REPLACEMENT BOARD TODAY. saturday is going to be a great day for sure!(although i have been having fun with my EP45-UD3P!)also got my pc-8000 mushkin2x1 REDLINES.

[Simps]

BIOS 1602 is good.
So far the best bios for MIIF.

I think the 1602 cpu temps (on the bios screen at least) are a bit low to be real temps. That might be bugged, I don't know.

It didn't fix some bugs from 1307 bios, but it didn't add any more bugs, as far as I know.

Very stable.

[powellandy]

Hi

New here. Thought I would share my experience with the M2F. System - M2F BIOS 1501, Q9300, Freezer 7 Pro cooler, 2x2GB Corsair Dominator 8500, BFG 8800GTS (G92), Hiper PSU, Antec P182 Case.

Process
Needed NB 1.15 and vCore 1.2 to boot. Worked at getting Linpak x10 stable. Required vCore 1.3375 and vNB 1.32. However by putting the 1/3 GTLs onto -35 (aiming for about 0.635) and vTT up to 1.20600 I was able to get the vCore down to 1.26875.

Then tinkered vNB down to 1.28 to get OCCT RAM 8h stable however by putting NB GTL to +30 (aiming for .67) I was able to drop this one notch.

It seems vTT and the GTLs are key as I was able to drop the vCore 1.3375 to 1.26875 and vNB from 1.32 to 1.27.

The things that didn't help
DRAM Clock Skew - made more unstable with progressive increments.
NB/CPU Clock Skew - made no difference (delay 100/300 respectively)

Final settings.

Note: Not stable with 1602 so back to 1501.



Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 7.5
FSB Frequency : 425
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : normal
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : normal

DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time :auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) :auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
Write to PRE Delay : auto
Read to PRE Delay : auto
PRE to PRE Delay : auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 101

CPU Voltage : 1.26875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
FSBT : 1.20600
DRAM Voltage : 2.19750
North Bridge Voltage : 1.27225
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : -35
CPU GTL Reference 2 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : -35
North Bridge GTL Reference : +30
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Disabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[powellandy]

Any body else have these problems with 1602

- SoundMax appears greyed out in device manager under 'Sound, video and game controllers' as is UAA Bus Driver in 'System devices'. Present and correct (and active in 1501 and 0701). Greyed in 1307 and 1602.

- LCD thingy does not display CPU temp (cycles 3 opts, Power, MB, NB, SB). All BIOSes tested.

Cheers,
Andy

[Grnfinger]

Maximus_II_Formula/Maximus-II-ASUS-Formula-1602.zip (http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_II_Formula/Maximus-II-ASUS-Formula-1602.zip)

Thanks for the link
What exactly is "Fix Intel 45nm Quad Core CPU ustability issue"

[Killdozer]

First, this is a great source of info on the M2F - probably the best anywhere!
Thanks for all the hard work and endless hours of research that you put at our fingertips.


Maximus_II_Formula/Maximus-II-ASUS-Formula-1602.zip (http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_II_Formula/Maximus-II-ASUS-Formula-1602.zip)

Yeah, mine took too many time to detect the even SATA ports...
Funny, I spoke to ASUS about it just the other day and it was "Huh? What SATA port problem?"

[e.v.o]

Many people over at FdL reporting the "Fixed CPU Multi Bug".
But i think the new BIOS is a great step forward!


I GOT MY REPLACEMENT BOARD TODAY. saturday is going to be a great day for sure!(although i have been having fun with my EP45-UD3P!)also got my pc-8000 mushkin2x1 REDLINES.Can you make a CPU-Z screen or even better: pull that cooling stuff off and tell us which NB revision is mounted?


I think the 1602 cpu temps (on the bios screen at least) are a bit low to be real temps. That might be bugged, I don't know.Which CPU do you use? What are your BIOS temps compared to RealTemp and CoreTemp?


Thanks for the link
What exactly is "Fix Intel 45nm Quad Core CPU ustability issue"np man but i really dunno what that means. there is no new uCode in the new BIOS, so maybe it is a new feature, called "unstability" xD


Any body else have these problems with 1602

- SoundMax appears greyed out in device manager under 'Sound, video and game controllers' as is UAA Bus Driver in 'System devices'. Present and correct (and active in 1501 and 0701). Greyed in 1307 and 1602.

- LCD thingy does not display CPU temp (cycles 3 opts, Power, MB, NB, SB). All BIOSes tested.

Cheers,
AndyI think you have some serious problems with your board and/or windows, cause with BIOS version 1307 everything runs fine here and on 99% of the other boards ;)


Hi

New here. Thought I would share my experience with the M2F. System - M2F BIOS 1501, Q9300, Freezer 7 Pro cooler, 2x2GB Corsair Dominator 8500, BFG 8800GTS (G92), Hiper PSU, Antec P182 Case.Nice one! I will try something similiar with my Q9400! Now i have something to start with. Hopefully i also will have the time :D

[Simps]

OMG, I was using only the 10x multipl. till now with the bios 1602.
Now that I tryed to change it, I see that this bios has this bug.

It will lock your multiplier. Mine is locked on 10x. You can actually change it on bios, but it will still boot with a 10x multiplier. And I have a QX cpu.

Anyone found a work arround for this issue with bios 1602?
Apart from that, I think this is the best bios so far.

[Grnfinger]

Anyone using Intel Matrix Storage Manager version 8.6.0.1007
And what version chipset is everyone using?

[The Mamal]

Im am well happy with this board!! :up:

I got a q9650 (e0) and was stuck at a 455 wall - untill I messed with the north bridge gtl - Im now at 480x9 = 4.3ghz prime and intelburntest stable :up:

Only thing I got left to do is see how much I can lower my voltages

Running bios 1602 and got the locked multiplyer problem too. :down:

CPU V Core 1.40
NB V 1.45
CPU FSB V 1.49
CPU PLL 1.60
DIMM V 2.09
DDR2 960 5-5-5-15

Setup
GSKILL 2x2GB PC8500CL5
Thermochill 120.3
Swiftech GTZ
Coolermaster Stacker 830
Max 2 Form
Nvidia 8800GTX

[screwtech02]

1602+Q6600=NO JOY..... Started with same bios settings as with 1307, NO POST.....:shakes:

Try, Try, Try again Asus....:shakes:

[CryptiK]

That's appalling results guys, FFS ASUS get with the program will you. That's 3 shocking bioses in a row, how bad is this company going to get? Any more of this and my M2F gets sold and I'm going to another brand.

[screwtech02]

I concur.....:shakes:

[Eeky NoX]

Gat this sort of bad bioses wit da 680i too...THX Asuxx, we love your engeneers !!!

Keep on goin' like dat and we'll all leave your buggy stuffs out !!!


Please stop the mascarade ! My P5N is over a 1year old bios to get what I need (FSB for my x8 multi) !

So what's the pb with all this new versions which give issues instead of fixin' them ?

Desparatin'...I'll think twice before buying the M2E !!

[Vega]

Running bios 1602 and got the locked multiplyer problem too. :down:



Is this a problem with dual cores as well?

[The Mamal]

Is this a problem with dual cores as well?

Not Sure about the duals - Only got a quad. Im Back on 1307

[Grnfinger]

New kit is working rather well, just got tweak the timing to get my read score up a bit
Runs really cool compared to the CL5D's

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/1140.png

[SiGfever]

New kit is working rather well, just got tweak the timing to get my read score up a bit
Runs really cool compared to the CL5D's

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/1140.png

Man we are right there together on our scores, same ram. :up:

[WhiteFireDragon]

does anyone know if RAID-0 will run faster under ICH10R or the speeding HD connected to the two black ports? since i couldn't set up the RAID0 correctly on ICH10R, i used the speeding HD with two velociraptors, and it seems a bit slow. i'm only getting about 131mb/s average transfer rate.

and second, how do i set up a RAID on the ICH10R? when i set the SATA to RAID in the BIOS, it seems like the boot up gets frozen during the POST. i tried putting the RAID drivers from the CD on a flash drive also and it won't work. i formatted the flash drive to FAT format. tried this on BIOS 1501 and ket's modded 1307. does anyone else have this problem or know how to fix it?

[Grnfinger]

Man we are right there together on our scores, same ram. :up:

:D

Have you max'd your kit out yet? If so what was max MHz

[SiGfever]

:D

Have you max'd your kit out yet? If so what was max MHz

No I am still playing when I have time. This is my 24/7 rig and it runs WCG at night so between being on the forum and crunching I don't get much play time.

[Grnfinger]

does anyone know if RAID-0 will run faster under ICH10R or the speeding HD connected to the two black ports? since i couldn't set up the RAID0 correctly on ICH10R, i used the speeding HD with two velociraptors, and it seems a bit slow. i'm only getting about 131mb/s average transfer rate.

and second, how do i set up a RAID on the ICH10R? when i set the SATA to RAID in the BIOS, it seems like the boot up gets frozen during the POST. i tried putting the RAID drivers from the CD on a flash drive also and it won't work. i formatted the flash drive to FAT format. tried this on BIOS 1501 and ket's modded 1307. does anyone else have this problem or know how to fix it?

I run Raid0 and I'm getting about 125MB/S on my WD 7200PRM drives so I would say your raptor scores are low.
I use Vista and required NO raid drivers to install.
If your using XP try getting teh updated chipsets drivers from Intel they might help.
If you have a spare drive about you could alwayd install the OS on it then creat the raid in XP and migrate the OS drive to the raid and it should be good. A few extra steps but it will work. Or you could send me those raptors and I can test them to make sure there not faulty :D:D:D:D

Here are the links to the UPDATED raid drivers

32bit ALL OS (http://cid-988b91f35a949678.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/STOR%7C_all32%7C_f6flpy32%7C_8.6.0.1007%7C_PV.zip)
64bit ALL OS (http://cid-988b91f35a949678.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/STOR%7C_all64%7C_f6flpy64%7C_8.6.0.1007%7C_PV.zip)

[GeorgeVasil]

@Grnfinger

Can u post your voltages settings??

My Gskill PI run Prime blend 11h at 570 mhz...but i need 1.4+ @NB so there is a problem with..--> (f@cking vNB-VTT=0.15 bug :D).

i have booted at 580,590 but the system is very unstable.

At 600 mhz the mobo posts !! but freezes when loading win..;) :up:

[WhiteFireDragon]

If you have a spare drive about you could alwayd install the OS on it then creat the raid in XP and migrate the OS drive to the raid and it should be good.


how do i migrate the OS the drives in RAID? do i need to make an image of the orginal drive first?

[WhiteFireDragon]

just tried BIOS 1602 in hopes of fixing my RAID problem, but after a reboot after the BIOS flash, it can't even get past the POST

[Vega]

My Dominators will do 1225MHz all damn day long @ 2.2 volts
You should look at NB volts higher FSB as Jack said will tax the NB harder, depending on what trd setting you have and clock twister you might just need a NB volt increase.

Not a good idea to PM corsair reps, its kinda against the rules.

I am very eager to know how you can manage to run 1200+MHz with only 2.2V. I have tryed several times now but no success. What timings and subtimings do you use....nb voltage?

Thanks in advance.

[Simps]

This is a fantastic board, I am loving it.
It runs so cool... Check out NB / SB / MOSFET temps during 2h of prime95...
Air cooled system. Ambient temps arround 27-28C.

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2604/temps1gi4.jpg

[570091D]

hey all, just got this beast on thursday, but haven't had the time to play until last night... here's where i'm at now.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i125/whistlepunk666/FSB425.jpg

this is the first time i've ever tried overclocking with an intel chipset, always used nvidia before, so a lot of these options are new. :confused:

does anyone know if asus' pc probe is accurate for voltages?

i want to say thanks to everyone posting problems/solutions because they have been VERY helpful! every time occt wouldn't pass i was digging through this thread looking for answers!;)

[WhiteFireDragon]

the voltages are pretty accurate to -/+ 0.01v. you could use a digital mulitmeter to measure the actual voltages.

your e8500 is an E0, so you wont need 1.3X vcore for just 4ghz unless it's a really bad chip. you can either lower the vcore or raise your clocks

[vab206]

hmmm i seem to be having a problem dropping my FSB to 500 w/ 8.5 multi and then using 5:6 ratio, i can get bench stable w/ 2.35 vdimm but im getting frequent crashes while gaming. so atm im back on 533x8 1:1.

should i try relaxing the timings? or should i adjust something else. messing with any of the GTL's bluescreens me when loading windows.

[CryptiK]

Unless your dominators are D9 based its very unlikely you'll be running 1200MHz on a reasonable voltage.

[KURTZ]

guys just a question: is it true that the white slots (DIMM) are better than the blue?

[GeorgeVasil]

guys just a question: is it true that the white slots (DIMM) are better than the blue?

I think that the mobo's manual says to use the blue ones (recommended).

I am not sure..just check the manual.

[Simps]

Yes, on the manual, they recommend the blue ones. They don't say why...

[radaja]

@EVO, they sent revision A2.

[KURTZ]

I think that the mobo's manual says to use the blue ones (recommended).

I am not sure..just check the manual.


Yes, on the manual, they recommend the blue ones. They don't say why...


"It is recommended to install the memory modules from the yellow slots for better overclock capability".

yellow slots? :shakes:

[Simps]

LOL yellow slots! =D
On my printed manual, it says blue slots.

Looks like you have some funny manual there hum? Are you sure it is a MIIF manual? Maybe a DFI manual? =/

[Vega]

ATM I use the white slots!
Can any one confirm that the blue slots do any improvement?? :)

[Grnfinger]

ppl see what they want....my 4 kits of ram perform the same in the blue or white there is no diffrence in performance or clocks

[Simps]

I haven't seen any difference too. I tryed the blue and white also.
But I am no board engineer, and if asus's board engineers wrote that on the manual, there should be a reason for it. So, I say using the blue slots, is probably the smartest choice. Trying to out-smart the asus board engineers is probably the "not so smart" choice.

[seban]

Hi,

Does any body know where the MB temp sensor is located? I got around 51C (all on auto and stock) read from it when rest is in mid 30 and I have got quite good airflow.

Another question - is it safe to leave options on auto in bios and OC as far as it will go and tweak things when it stops to go further or is it not a good idea ? "D

If not, than what start options r good?

(I am in process of reading thread but it takes time...)

Cheers

[radaja]

my manual says yellow slot as well. and no it not a dfi manual

[grifonemoloch]

does anyone know if RAID-0 will run faster under ICH10R or the speeding HD connected to the two black ports? since i couldn't set up the RAID0 correctly on ICH10R, i used the speeding HD with two velociraptors, and it seems a bit slow. i'm only getting about 131mb/s average transfer rate.

and second, how do i set up a RAID on the ICH10R? when i set the SATA to RAID in the BIOS, it seems like the boot up gets frozen during the POST. i tried putting the RAID drivers from the CD on a flash drive also and it won't work. i formatted the flash drive to FAT format. tried this on BIOS 1501 and ket's modded 1307. does anyone else have this problem or know how to fix it?

Some time ago i did a test, installing a new OS on a raptor 74 gb raid 0 first on speeding HDD port and after on ICH10 controlled port: on ICH10 they were faster :)

[Gambit_2K]

Some time ago i did a test, installing a new OS on a raptor 74 gb raid 0 first on speeding HDD port and after on ICH10 controlled port: on ICH10 they were faster :)

Every review I've seen were they've tested the kontrollers the ICH10 has been fster, but the CPU utilization has been the same on both.

How does speeding HD work with linux since no drivers are installed? Is it just to plug it in and i works?

[WhiteFireDragon]

ah thank you, i'll go with the ICH10R then. can i still use the black slots to raid the two drives with the ICH10R or just connect the optical drives for normal use without any performance penalties, or are the black slots only dedicated for the speeding HDD function?

last quick question concerning RAID, is there some other way to install the RAID drivers with a flash drive instead of a floppy on XP? i know with vista this is no problem at all. booting with XP and pressing F6 to load additional drivers will require drive a:/ and there's no way to change to another drive. is there some way around this?

EDIT: found the answer in THIS (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=190550) thread. basically ICH10R wins. lol and i realized i responded in that thread too...

[Vega]

Can any one show with a picture where I can measure Vcore, Vdimm and NB please?
I want to be sure what voltage I use... :)

Another question:

I dont understand the link between PLL, FSB(Vtt) and Vcore but I do know that higt Vtt,PLL & Vcore can kill my cpu immediately. What I undestand you recommend for 24/7 use:
Vcore ~1.4V
Vtt ~1.35V
PLL ~1.55V

If I use higher PLL, does it mean I can lower my Vcore for same clock? ...or if I want to lower my Vcore I have to play with GLT´s?
To run 4.5GHz stable I have to use around 1.42-1.43 Vcore but it feels little to high for me, right?

[Eeky NoX]

Same as you Vega ;)

@Seban : you have to check the passiv rad of the board, so change thermal past
and add some plastic stuffs behind the screws and PCB

You'll loose 10° after all mate (dat's not even so much :D)

[Gambit_2K]

Well no problems when it comes to RAID with the 1602 bios for me but the multi is stuck at 9.5 :down:

Asus should shape up!

[seban]

@Seban : you have to check the passiv rad of the board, so change thermal past
and add some plastic stuffs behind the screws and PCB

You'll loose 10° after all mate (dat's not even so much :D)

My NB SB and rest are ok only MB is acting on me... so it does not look like bad contact too me, rather stuck sensor - this is why I was asking if anybody knew where it is located.

Still looking for answers :confused:

Thx Eeky

[CryptiK]

No idea where the MB sensor is located, perhaps get a hairdryer and point it at different parts of the board and try to get it to increase? Sounds odd though, I haven't heard of a stuck mobo sensor reported for these boards before.

EDIT - be careful when doing this, dont point it at anything for too long or it can get too hot.

[seban]

That sounds like and idea... but I will not hide I was counting for some easier answer - like mb is no important do not worry about it :D... well I guess I have to fire up my gf 2500w hair dryer.

Thanks Cryptik

[KURTZ]

my manual says yellow slot as well. and no it not a dfi manual

so we are two ... :)

[zuess]

I'am a noob overclocker and am having lots of problems getting my Xeon E3110 over 3.6ghz.

currently using Bios 1307, at 425 FSB Orthos crashes after 10 seconds,it seems that anything over 400 FSB isn't stable.

Can someone please help me, I water cool and want to get to 4 ghz.

I can't get the bios template into my post, how do you guys do it.

Specs are in my Signature.

[seban]

... does any body else had problems with Hiren's Boot on MF2 and booting from it?

I can not boot from Hiren's cd.

My problem:

On my old rig I had dual boot Vista 64 + Xp 32. My DFI died. On new rig I installed new Vista 64 on old Xp partition (just for now) it was working fine but after few restarts old Vista Boot Menu came up where all options lead to no where :clap: :ROTF:.

I assume active partition is one with old Vista and this must be the reason for old boot menu to come up (but why the hell it did come up after 4th or 5th restart...).

Hiren will not boot for some strange reasons - any alternatives for Hiren to maniupulate partition tables? or solutions how to get rid of this nasty old boot screen?

PS>Fixmbr is of course no go as it can damage more the repair.

[The Mamal]

Spent a whole week tuneing my settings for this board with a Q9650.

Now at 4410Mhz 24/7 - Sweet! :up:

Details here;

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3435614&postcount=678

[seban]

Very nice result.

Some tips for clocking q9550 e0?

[The Water Dog]

I wonder if someone with a q6600 can post a template?
if you have template for 3,6-4Ghz , you save my day=)
Thanks anyway;)

The Mamal: Nice:D

[JoeBar]

so we are two ... :)
Make it three... :D

[The Water Dog]

nope, 4:P I checked now and it say the same "it is recomenned to install the memory modules in the yellow slots for better overclocing capability"

[hoskic]

I wonder if someone with a q6600 can post a template?
if you have template for 3,6-4Ghz , you save my day=)
Thanks anyway;)

The Mamal: Nice:D

Make it two ....

[Jamesrt2004]

Make it two ....

make it three :) buying this board within a couple weeks :D

[Ourasi]

I'm really hoping the 1602 bios have cured the odd issues I had on 1307 @3.83ghz on my Q9550, where it on random reboots would go from Linpack stable to not even be able to start ventrilo without freezing/BSOD...
So far it's stable after a couple of reboots, after the last one I did 10 tests on maximum stress in Linpack with 8gb Mushkin XP2-8500@1081mhz and passed with flying colors... "Knock on wood":shocked:

[WhiteFireDragon]

Here are the links to the UPDATED raid drivers

32bit ALL OS (http://cid-988b91f35a949678.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/STOR%7C_all32%7C_f6flpy32%7C_8.6.0.1007%7C_PV.zip)
64bit ALL OS (http://cid-988b91f35a949678.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/STOR%7C_all64%7C_f6flpy64%7C_8.6.0.1007%7C_PV.zip)

aren't all processors 64bit these days? so just for clarification, i should still DL the "64bit ALL OS" even though i'm running XP 32bit right?

[Gambit_2K]

aren't all processors 64bit these days? so just for clarification, i should still DL the "64bit ALL OS" even though i'm running XP 32bit right?

Nope 32 bit drivers for 32 bit OS.

[Copenhagen69]

how do you get a 1:1 ratio on this board ... i have tried and i get 5:6 is the closet i got ...

im at 9x445 24/7 stable ... but was curious if anyone is running at 1:1 right now and what your settings were

[WhiteFireDragon]

maybe it's your memory. what memory do you have? the most stable for me is 1:1. if i try 5:6, it crashes orthos in a few minutes. i used OCZ gold and crucial memories

[CryptiK]

1:1 ration = the lowest ram speed setting you have. It is 2 x the FSB.

[WhiteFireDragon]

1:1 ration = the lowest ram speed setting you have. It is 2 x the FSB.

yes, it's the lowest memory speed, which brings up a question i had. i thought in general, p45's were not that great at 1:1, but it seems mine is the most stable at this divider. i can run them at fsb 333mhz or 400mhz on 1:1 just fine, but when i run at fsb 333 with the divider 5:6, i get instability in orthos really quick. what settings do i need to change?

[Shocker003]

Are you guys using the included creativ sound card and how good is the audio for music and video playback?

[WhiteFireDragon]

i am, and it's paired with z-5500 speakers. it sounds better than any older sound card i've bought. but then again, i don't have any other x-fi to compare with, and these speakers are the only ones that i've hooked up to this card. sounds good for "onboard" sound

[e.v.o]

Compared to onboard realtek chips, the soundcard is a real mess. there is a test on the internet with graphics showing the noise ratio level and other stuff..
i simply just can't understand why asus uses this mess on one of there "best" boards. the realtek drivers are also much better than those from this soundmax :banana::banana::banana::banana:...

oder, um es auf deutsch zu sagen: die soundkarte taugt einfach absolut nicht. wenn du was richtiges willst, greif zu einem anderen board (es gibt ernsthaft bessere die vor allem billiger sind) oder einer extra soundkarte die ihr geld und ihre leistung wert ist. kommt natürlich immer darauf an was man damit machen will..

[Eeky NoX]

You're meaning that's not an improvement of the bundle so ?

I can't give some more détails about it : cus' I haven't plugged it yet :D ...since august xD (don't need sound for benchin' at all)

[Copenhagen69]

maybe it's your memory. what memory do you have? the most stable for me is 1:1. if i try 5:6, it crashes orthos in a few minutes. i used OCZ gold and crucial memories

i am using corsair dominators 1066


1:1 ration = the lowest ram speed setting you have. It is 2 x the FSB.

wouldnt the lowest ram speed lower my OC?

and are you talkin about the strap? ... like doubling that would give me a 1:1

[WaterFlex]

This is my new achievement with 2 sticks of "Red Devils" on MIIF (only 1,98Vdimm under load ;)):

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/9316/1200of2.jpg

[Grnfinger]

This is my new achievement with 2 sticks of "Red Devils" on MIIF:



nice!

I can do that on my MF X38, but sadly my quad wont boot past 480FSB

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/TEST3_500.png

[CryptiK]

i am using corsair dominators 1066



wouldnt the lowest ram speed lower my OC?

and are you talkin about the strap? ... like doubling that would give me a 1:1

It will lower your ram overclock if you are using a higher divider like 4:5 now.

I'm not talking about the strap, i said the ram speed is 2x the FSB when on 1:1 divider, meaning if you are on 445 FSB, 1:1 will set your ram to DDR2 - 890 MHz, i you're on 500 FSB, the ram would be on DDR2 - 1000 MHz.

[Vega]

Nice result there gays! :)
I have played with my Dominator V1.1 and tryed to hit 600MHz but that is impossible. I also tryed to do 4-4-4-12 at 500MHz but no success there too. Are there any key because I have read a number of reviews regarding these memorys and all of them could do 500MHz, 4-4-4-12 2,1-2,2V. I use 1.4V on NB.
I have a nice 500x9 24/7 clock but I am not happy over my memory speed so far!
Any advice?

[CryptiK]

Nice result there gays! :)
I have played with my Dominator V1.1 and tryed to hit 600MHz but that is impossible. I also tryed to do 4-4-4-12 at 500MHz but no success there too. Are there any key because I have read a number of reviews regarding these memorys and all of them could do 500MHz, 4-4-4-12 2,1-2,2V. I use 1.4V on NB.
I have a nice 500x9 24/7 clock but I am not happy over my memory speed so far!
Any advice?

Sounds like your ram can't do it. What speed can you do 4-4-4-12 at?

Oh and "Gays" are homosexuals, I think you mean to say "guys" which is a group of people ;)

[N3it1]

Maybe gay is synonym for a guy in sweden? So i have heard.

[vab206]

its wierd that you cant do 1200mhz with your dominators, mine do it @ 2.3v pretty easily, although my system is pretty unstable as a whole when i run a 5:6 divider so i like to keep mine 1:1... theres really not that big of a performance difference... pics

1:1 ratio @ 533x8
http://phase-changin.com/shoottothrill-images/1to1.JPG

and now the 5:6 @ 500x8
http://phase-changin.com/shoottothrill-images/5to6.JPG

as you can see i get better write/copy speeds @ 1:1 with only a 300mb difference from running @ 1200mhz, timings on both are 5-5-5-15-2T as you can see, so im stickin with 1:1 until the stability fairy comes and taps my comp with his wand.

[CryptiK]

If you can, run a SPI 32M run at each setting and you will see the difference. 533 is a very high FSB for 24/7 use though. Very nice clocking e8400 too.

[Vega]

Ok, guys! ;)
I have not tryed higher voltage than 2.21V (in bios) so maybe I can bump up little more even if that are risky for 24/7! I will also give the blue slots a chance...
Maybe my trfc and performance lever was to tight as well...
It is not possible to change tref in bios, right?

[GeorgeVasil]

Testing with my new CPU..

Still on crapy box cooling..:p:

http://www.outofspecs.gr/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4762&d=1227050579

CPU ~1.24
PLL ~1.55
NB~1.44
VTT~1.25
SB~1.56
-35mV GTL..

[EaglePC]

I get reboots ever so often :( do i need more settings ?

FSB frequency: 450
Cpu ratio setting: 08.5
Dram frequency: 901
Dram commamd rate: 2T
Dram timing control: 5-5-5-15

Cpu voltage: 1.28
Loadline calibration: enabled
Cpu PLL voltage: auto
FSB termination voltage: 1.4
Cpu gtlref: +30mv
NB gtlref: +40mv
NB voltage: 1.4
Dram voltage: auto
NB ddrvref: +50mv
DDR3 channelA vref: auto
DDR3 channelB vref: auto
SB voltage: auto

Cpu spread spection: disabled
PCIE spread spection: disabled

C1E support: disabled
CPU TM function: disabled
Max cpuid value limit: disabled
Vanderpool technology: disabled
Execute disabled bit: disabled
Core Muti processing: enabled


WANT TO TRY SOMETHING LIKE THIS

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-943Mhz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Enabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.40000v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56625v
FSBT : 1.27225v
DRAM Voltage : 1.90600v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25900v
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.50000v
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.10000v

CPU GTL Reference 0 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : -40mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : -40mv




North Bridge GTL Reference : +10mv
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calibration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled


"ASUS Maximus II Formula LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
EVGA 896-P3-1267-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 Superclocked Edition 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80569Q9550 - Retail
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - Retail
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF - Retail"

[powellandy]

Now stable at 450MHz with Q9300. Getting there slowly! :)

Edit: By increasing NB GTL to +40mV and enabling mem oc charger able to drop vNB one notch to 1.28v

Andy



Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 7.5
FSB Frequency : 450
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : normal
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : normal

DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time :auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) :auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
Write to PRE Delay : auto
Read to PRE Delay : auto
PRE to PRE Delay : auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 101

CPU Voltage : 1.33750
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
FSBT : 1.32525
DRAM Voltage : 2.19750
North Bridge Voltage : 1.29875
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : -40
CPU GTL Reference 2 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : -40
North Bridge GTL Reference : +30
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Disabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[Gambit_2K]

Maybe gay is synonym for a guy in sweden? So i have heard.

Haha it's not. Gay is just plain old Gay haha.

[CryptiK]

Hehe, I thought so :p:

[GeorgeVasil]

Testing..:p:

Still Stock cooling..

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/8316/4gich7.th.jpg (http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4gich7.jpg)http://img353.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

[powellandy]

BIOS settings above - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3439684&postcount=1922

Any advice for getting better RAM speeds

Currently FSB 450MHz, Strap 333MHz, DDR2-1081.

Tried increasing to strap 266MHz, DDR2-1128 - failed OCCT in seconds
Tried changing DRAM skew to advance 150ps - as above
Tried changing DRAM skew to advance 300ps - didn't even boot into windows.

Back on DDR2-1081 tried to inc twister from mod to strong - again OCCT failed in seconds.
If on moderate then OCCT RAM goes for 15hours.

Any advice?
Thanks,
Andy

[EaglePC]

UNSTABLE HERE HELP ???

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-943Mhz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Enabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.40000v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56625v
FSBT : 1.27225v
DRAM Voltage : 1.90600v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25900v
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.50000v
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.10000v

CPU GTL Reference 0 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : -40mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : -40mv




North Bridge GTL Reference : +10mv
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calibration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled


"ASUS Maximus II Formula LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
EVGA 896-P3-1267-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 Superclocked Edition 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80569Q9550 - Retail
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - Retail
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF - Retail"

[Grnfinger]

BIOS settings above - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3439684&postcount=1922

Any advice for getting better RAM speeds

Currently FSB 450MHz, Strap 333MHz, DDR2-1081.

Tried increasing to strap 266MHz, DDR2-1128 - failed OCCT in seconds
Tried changing DRAM skew to advance 150ps - as above
Tried changing DRAM skew to advance 300ps - didn't even boot into windows.

Back on DDR2-1081 tried to inc twister from mod to strong - again OCCT failed in seconds.
If on moderate then OCCT RAM goes for 15hours.

Any advice?
Thanks,
Andy

To run twister on strong or higher you will require alittle more NB juice then your 1.29volts
If your booting on the 266 strap try upping your NB volts to around 1.35 or slightly higher.

I require 1.39vNB for 1130MHz running 471x8.5 on 333 strap

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : Enabled
MEM OC Charger : Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

[JoeBar]

533 is a very high FSB for 24/7 use though.
Why is that?

[psygnosi]

EaglePC,

Increase Ram voltage to 2.0v for the Corsair Dominators. Run Memtest to make sure your ram is ok with that voltage.

[vservera]

it's a great board, I love it!

[CryptiK]

Why is that?

It doesn't leave you much room for selection of an appropriate ram speed, for most people, you're stuck with 1:1.

For example I can run fine at 534 x 7.5 on the same vcore as 445 x 9, but the latter gives me a wider selection of ram speeds.

[vab206]

eh, 1:1 is really all i need... i really only play warhammer. but now when i get my SS fired up and ready to rock im definetally going to be switching it up some.

[CryptiK]

I can't game on this board with 500+ FSB, as it makes the games play in fast forward, even the menus etc run at super speed and its ridiculously unplayable. For example if I play a Need for Speed title, the cars take off at what looks like 600 KM/H and you crash almost immediately. it does not matter what multiplier or divider i choose, and changing every setting does not prevent it from happening. At 499 FSB or less its ok. That is also one of my reasons for using a sub 500 FSB setting. BTW my P5Q-Deluxe did the same thing, i think it may be a P45 'feature' lol.

[WaterFlex]

I can't game on this board with 500+ FSB, as it makes the games play in fast forward, even the menus etc run at super speed and its ridiculously unplayable. For example if I play a Need for Speed title, the cars take off at what looks like 600 KM/H and you crash almost immediately. it does not matter what multiplier or divider i choose, and changing every setting does not prevent it from happening. At 499 FSB or less its ok. That is also one of my reasons for using a sub 500 FSB setting. BTW my P5Q-Deluxe did the same thing, i think it may be a P45 'feature' lol.

Wow. Would never have thought that it makes such huge differences.

[vab206]

wow lol thats wierd... maybe overclocking that high unlocks super-duper-hyper-speedoflight mode

[WaterFlex]

wow lol thats wierd... maybe overclocking that high unlocks super-duper-hyper-speedoflight mode

:rofl::up:

[CryptiK]

lol yeah, well I am at a loss to explain it. It's very odd behaviour. Perhaps it is an interaction between my graphics card and the board at 500+ FSB, perhaps it affects the PCI-E frequency such that its affects the data transmission between the board and card. My P5Q-Deluxe did it too.

Seriously if i made a video of the games when it does it you'd laugh your ass off its so fast. Not 'awesome you have high frame rates' fast, but 'stupidly ridiculous unplayable something is definitely wrong' fast.

[CryptiK]

Sorry for the double post, but could someone with a quad (9650 or 9770) please do a max stable FSB test on this mobo using a lower multiplier? I'm very curious to know what it can achieve.

EDIT - I mean stable as in preferably SPI32M stable, but 3D stable, 1M stable, whatever, just post it up.

[JoeBar]

It doesn't leave you much room for selection of an appropriate ram speed, for most people, you're stuck with 1:1.

For example I can run fine at 534 x 7.5 on the same vcore as 445 x 9, but the latter gives me a wider selection of ram speeds.
It all depends on your ram and specific oc. Mine can't do 1200mhz, in conjunction with my oc, i'm stuck @ 1:1.

However a fsb over 500mhz, increases your mem scores also, so it's not a major loss.

[Grnfinger]

It all depends on your ram and specific oc. Mine can't do 1200mhz, in conjunction with my oc, i'm stuck @ 1:1.

However a fsb over 500mhz, increases your mem scores also, so it's not a major loss.

What sticks do you have XP2-8500 ?

[JoeBar]

What sticks do you have XP2-8500 ?
Yes. 2x2gb. I've already tried 1200mhz but they refuse to boot windows regardless vmem and timings.

[Grnfinger]

Yes. 2x2gb. I've already tried 1200mhz but they refuse to boot windows regardless vmem and timings.

I have the same kit best they can do is about 1150 or so.
I guess the redlines will do 1200 tho or so they say.
My Dominators will do 1225MHz @ 2.2volts but sadly there only a 2x1GB kit.

[JoeBar]

I have the same kit best they can do is about 1150 or so.
I guess the redlines will do 1200 tho or so they say.
My Dominators will do 1225MHz @ 2.2volts but sadly there only a 2x1GB kit.
2x2gb redlines reaching 1200mhz? :confused:

Have u seen any proof?

If i was to go with 2x1gb, i would stick with my Cellshock pc8000 which could do 1260, but vista and 2gb is a no go... :p:

[Grnfinger]

2x2gb redlines reaching 1200mhz? :confused:

Have u seen any proof?

If i was to go with 2x1gb, i would stick with my Cellshock pc8000 which could do 1260, but vista and 2gb is a no go... :p:

I havent seen any hard proof and cant recall what forum the claim was made on .
I'll see if I can hunt down a screen shot or similar.

[WhiteFireDragon]

currently my desktop is running fine in RAID-0. do i still need to install the "chipset update program" or "Matrix storage Manager driver"? what utilizes these two things? from my understanding, it's just for RAID and AHCI right?

[CryptiK]

Can anyone get the 1:2 divider working? I cannot get it to even boot using 1:2 divider no matter what voltages/PL etc I set. I think the divider is broken. I'm using BIOS 1307, I've tried the older BIOSES and the 1:2 divider is broken on those too.

I can boot at 650 - 700+ MHz on the ram on the 2:3 divider.

[Eeky NoX]

Here we are friends of mercy :D Tha same as you Cryptic : gat a lot of DDR2 to test on this board and nothin' over 650 at this time !! Yuc!!

Some GEIL PC8500 are comin', so I'll try to push them up over 700, even with the Commando which is with them ;)


A question about Crossfire please :

Gat a 4870 and a 4850, so want to test Crossfire, but nothing happen when I enable it in the CCC

Is it real that I should put the 4870 on the second slot, plug the screen there and put the second GPU on the first slot ??

Something to change in the bios too : PEG/PCI or PCI/PEG ??

Don't know how to do and even thought gat to change the way of installing my rads to one or other configuration...

That's why I'm asking cus' I don't want to waste any time whith this rads installation :D

EDIT : So it was that :D to get the CrossX I must put the 4870 in the second slot and the 4850 in the first (we should know that ;))

That's nice !!! Tryin' to bench 3D harder now !! @3,6 2k more for 3DM05 & even better at 06 ^^

[CryptiK]

Sorry I can't help you with the crossfire issue.

About the divider problem, have you ever got the board to boot/run with the 1:2 divider?

I have got 666 MHz on the 2:3 divider, but nothing I do will get the board to boot with 1:2.

[KURTZ]

Can anyone get the 1:2 divider working? I cannot get it to even boot using 1:2 divider no matter what voltages/PL etc I set. I think the divider is broken. I'm using BIOS 1307, I've tried the older BIOSES and the 1:2 divider is broken on those too.

I can boot at 650 - 700+ MHz on the ram on the 2:3 divider.

What the hell is the problem with Asus. This is very poor, especially for a 'ROG' board.

this is really annoying ...

[CryptiK]

Well I can boot on the 200 strap @ 391 FSB, Ram @ 666 MHz using 2.29 vdimm, it's not stable enough to run any benches, and getting into windows at anything higher is difficult. Even if I increase vdimm to 2.33v, it does nothing for stability at 666 MHz. I have tried altering NB DDR Ref voltage & DDR2 Channel A/B Ref Voltage up to +150mv & -100mv with no differences observed in stability at max bootable speed (666 MHz) and no increase in max bootable speed.

I think there should be a ram driving strength setting to assist stabilize high ram clocks. I think the option 'ram OC charger' is a drive strength setting (but it can only be enabled or disabled, which is too coarse & perhaps enabled is not strong enough), as I cannot load windows at more than 605 MHz with it disabled. This has never been confirmed by anyone though, it's just my personal speculation.

[Rocks]

I have finally gotten my rig stable @ 4ghz! Vcore @1.352 mem 400mhz strap @ 942 mghz.

Q9550 2.83 ghz @ 4.02 ghz
4 x 1GB Patriot DDR2 1200

All voltages on auto except Vcore and mem. meme is set to 2.0 volts. Loadline enabled and all spread spectrums disabled. Speed stepping enabled. 18888 marks on 3dmark 2006 and 12999 GPU score on 3D mark vantage. Intel burn test stable with 100 passes. Prime 95 stable 8 hours. I think its good to go.

Throwing all the games I have at it now it now to make sure it is reliable.

--Rocks

[seban]

Just quick question - what are acceptable temperatures for SB NB and Power. In stress I am heating around 46 on all (all VOLT settings on lowest possible in bios ATM)- and I got this damn MB sensor which shows 55 - 60 for most of time even in BIOS right after the start first boot of PC. I wrote to ASUS support but they do not know where MB is ... but they are checking it for me with engineers. I got few days left to return MF2 and get refund hope that ASUS will make it before that day because otherwise I will return in just in case.

And also what are acceptable temperatures for q9550 (e0) in stress for 24/7.

I am currently at 3.8 but hitting 61C in P95 at 1.21vcore ... it looks to me like there is something wrong with my temps :down:.

I lapped CPU and HSF and no changes. I will reseat HSF today but it does not look good.

[Rocks]

Just quick question - what are acceptable temperatures for SB NB and Power. In stress I am heating around 46 on all (all VOLT settings on lowest possible in bios ATM)- and I got this damn MB sensor which shows 55 - 60 for most of time even in BIOS right after the start first boot of PC. I wrote to ASUS support but they do not know where MB is ... but they are checking it for me with engineers. I got few days left to return MF2 and get refund hope that ASUS will make it before that day because otherwise I will return in just in case.

And also what are acceptable temperatures for q9550 (e0) in stress for 24/7.

I am currently at 3.8 but hitting 61C in P95 at 1.21vcore ... it looks to me like there is something wrong with my temps :down:.

I lapped CPU and HSF and no changes. I will reseat HSF today but it does not look good.


Your temps are great man. Mine are about the same running prime 95 with a Vcore of 1.35. I dont think anything is wrong, it seems to me that anything above 3 ghz is going to give rise to 60-70 c on the CPU. I have tried many vcores and with this cpu it seems that the temperature doesn't increase as much from the voltage as 65nm CPUs.

Also we have to remember there is no way we are going to run our computer with 100% stress all the time. So doing that just tells us that chances are if it is under heavy load for a long time, it will be fine.

I encode video play games download and listen to music at the same time and my temp never breaks 50 c.

--Rocks

[seban]

Hey Rocks,

What is your CPU ViD?

Well I would not mind 60 - 70'C with 1.35v and 4ghz but from 1.2v and 3.8ghz to 4ghz it is still long way to go :) and I am already on 60 in P95 stress.

on 2.8ghz I hit 60 with IBT - today will come MX2 so I will reseat TRUE with MX2 instead AS5 and will see - maybe contact is bad.

I can always lap this CPU to death :D

Cheers

[Rocks]

According to core temp my CPU VID is 1.175v. I think I got a nice chip. It is the E0 revision. Yeah it seems that the voltage must increase quite a bit to get 4 ghz stable but I cant tell you this I have only seen 60 c when stress testing. The max temp I see when running full load games and music and encoding...etc is 50. No kidding.

--Rocks

[powellandy]

Just quick question - what are acceptable temperatures for SB NB and Power. In stress I am heating around 46 on all (all VOLT settings on lowest possible in bios ATM)- and I got this damn MB sensor which shows 55 - 60 for most of time even in BIOS right after the start first boot of PC. I wrote to ASUS support but they do not know where MB is ... but they are checking it for me with engineers. I got few days left to return MF2 and get refund hope that ASUS will make it before that day because otherwise I will return in just in case.

And also what are acceptable temperatures for q9550 (e0) in stress for 24/7.

I am currently at 3.8 but hitting 61C in P95 at 1.21vcore ... it looks to me like there is something wrong with my temps :down:.

I lapped CPU and HSF and no changes. I will reseat HSF today but it does not look good.

Hi

My temps are a bit hotter. With volts/specs as below - CPU temp 68oC (assuming tjmax 100), NB temp 61oC, SB temp 58oC, Power temp 54oC, case 41oC.

Am playing around with a 60mm fan and bracket for the NB. I tried the washer trick for the NB but it made 1-2oC difference at best.

Andy

[KURTZ]

guys, i'm looking for a 'skew guide' someone can help me to understand this values/settings? any link?

TIA :)

[Grnfinger]

You guys aware that BFG is offering FREE thats right FREE upgrades on older gpus.
I just upgraded my sons old AGP 6800 256mb to a PCI-E 9600 OC 512 card

Here is the link for anyone who is interested in getting an upgrade, the only catch is it must be AGP card to qualify
http://www.bfgtech.com/freeupgrade.aspx

Congrats! You have chosen to upgrade your current AGP card to a 9600 GT OC 512MB PCIe card for free. Please verify your email address below and click submit. We will be sending you an email shortly with instructions on how to send your AGP card in for your upgrade. Please note that this process may take 24-48 hours.

[radaja]

well finally got my maximus II setup here's what i got so far.this is with src/dt enabled ct/stonger pl8.http://i33.tinypic.com/idf19y.jpghttp://i38.tinypic.com/34ruhs5.jpg

[Grnfinger]

very nice :up:

[seban]

well finally got my maximus II setup here's what i got so far.this is with src/dt enabled ct/stonger pl8.

Which bios ver. are you using?

With 1307 and 1602 on CPU I got 20 degrees difference between reading from BIOS / Probe (ie 20) and real temp/core temp (ie 40) - and it looks like yours match each other.

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Does anybody of ppl who reseated motherboard cooling have screens of temp readings before and after? I am interested mostly if MB temp was affected by reseating.

Cheers

[radaja]

mine was about 31-32c nb before,after reseating it stays about 30c.im on 1307 its the one they shipped it with. really hard to get 500 fsb, i can run orthos for about 1 hr @499fsb but as soon as i try 500,it gets stuck at det ram during boot. same with 510 or 533.ive tried raising all the various volts but no go .im thinking it the ram vdimm.ive gone all the way up to 2.4 in bios but that seems excessive.any help would be appreciated.thanks

[CryptiK]

Nice work Radaja. Are you setting the correct PL eg: 10 then trying to get 500+ FSB? Your ram should easily do 650 MHz stable, and your board should do up to 534 FSB stable at ~1.37 vNB with ram 1:1. Try using PL10 and setting ram 1:1 then trying to get over 500 FSB.

[Shiranui Gen-An]

I've noticed my GKX kits don't like a lot of voltage when used with my Maximus II Formula which seems to be limiting my ability to clock them higher than 625MHz.

[Rocks]

Here are my results so far. I would still like to decrease my CPU voltage but it seems that if I do it becomes unstable. Any advice would be great.

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/1263/scoresgb5.jpg

[CryptiK]

I've noticed my GKX kits don't like a lot of voltage when used with my Maximus II Formula which seems to be limiting my ability to clock them higher than 625MHz.

Odd, my CS GKX kits do 660 MHz on <2.3v. Perhaps its another setting not quite right, or maybe your kits clock differently.


Here are my results so far. I would still like to decrease my CPU voltage but it seems that if I do it becomes unstable. Any advice would be great.


Very nice results. With a 9550 I doubt you'll be going any lower on the vcore at that speed.

However you can experiment with GTL adjustment and vFSB.

[radaja]

@cryptik, i tried 1/1pl10 it would boot into windows but then it crashes, but i wanna get 1200 5/6 .are you setting 2.3 in bios?i cant remember but didnt this board overvolt ram like the p5q deluxe (0.8)?at 5/6 i tried pl9 but no go. its wierd cause i can boot at 498 fsb1196 pl8 src/dt enabled ct stronger at 2.18vdimm but as soon as i try 1200/500fsb no boot.

[CryptiK]

I have no problem setting 500 FSB & Ram 600MHz (5:6), took 2.17 vdimm to stabilize the ram with my TeamGroups haven't tested what my CellShocks need. I think this board is pretty much spot on with the vdimm, I measure within 0.01v from what software reads with a DMM.

You may need ~1.35 - 1.40 vNB to get it totally stable at 500FSB with the 5:6 divider, I was totally stable at 534 FSB 1:1 with 1.37 vNB and I could possibly have reduced it a little more but I didn't test.

[radaja]

thanks cryptik ill keep trying,soon im gonna give the muskin 2x1 pc 8000redlines a go.

[Rocks]

Odd, my CS GKX kits do 660 MHz on <2.3v. Perhaps its another setting not quite right, or maybe your kits clock differently.



Very nice results. With a 9550 I doubt you'll be going any lower on the vcore at that speed.

However you can experiment with GTL adjustment and vFSB.

Ok I've gotten the Vcore down to 1.35 at boot (1.36 under full load) by setting the GTL volts, but I still have CPU PLL at 1.667. What is a standard max for the PLL? Is this safe?

Thanks.

--Rocks

[CryptiK]

Standard max for vPLL is 1.575v, if you can reduce it to that or lower it would be better.

[seban]

Anybody who did reseted cooling on MF2 and notice any changes for MB temperature sensor?

[CryptiK]

I have, and I noticed no difference at all concerning the motherboard temperature. Did asus ever get back to you concerning the MB temp sensor location?

[Rocks]

Standard max for vPLL is 1.575v, if you can reduce it to that or lower it would be better.

Awesome man, I took it down to 1.575 and still stable...this board rocks. I had it on auto before. For some reason the BIOS loves to set the PLL high.

Lowered my CPU voltage to 1.352 and tweaked the GTL a little more. I am rock stable here and here I will stay.

Idle temps @ 36 C on all 4 cores...fully stressed in prime 95 60-65 c. I think I found my sweet spot finally...

Thanks man,

--Rocks

[seban]

I have, and I noticed no difference at all concerning the motherboard temperature. Did asus ever get back to you concerning the MB temp sensor location?

They did get back to me and guy said he would need to contact engineer and will let me know when he will know more :) - yesterday after 4 or 5 days of waiting I wrote him a reminder - so far no answer.

But what you said about MB temp, that it is not changing (in your case at least) after reseating cooling makes me even more confident that this sensor is somewhere on "open" PCB and is just stuck, because I see no reason why should it be 70C while exhaust air is rather cool.

I got still few day left with full refund without giving a reason :) so I am giving chance asus support.

-----------------

Any body with A3 rev. of P45 on MF2?

[humeyboy]

Bios 1702 is on the FTP.

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_II_Formula/

[Nunzi]

Thanks....... humeyboy

[humeyboy]

I'm mid test so cannot flash and see if Multi is again fixed over 1602 POS.

It will be Friday before I can Flash to this.

[siavashsony]

ASUS Maximus II Formula Formula BIOS 1702
http://rapidshare.com/files/167702972/Maximus-II-ASUS-Formula-1702.rar

[GeorgeVasil]

Pleaze God..

Make this BIOS BUG FREE..

[KURTZ]

Pleaze God..

Make this BIOS BUG FREE..

:clap::clap:

anyway, guys this is my latest shot with my E8600 undervolted (VID 1.1250) ...

all setting on default, but obviously not the vCC ...

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/9086/screenhunter01nov262312km8.th.jpg (http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/9086/screenhunter01nov262312km8.jpg)

[humeyboy]

:clap::clap:

anyway, guys this is my latest shot with my E8600 undervolted (VID 1.1250) ...

all setting on default, but obviously not the vCC ...

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/9086/screenhunter01nov262312km8.th.jpg (http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/9086/screenhunter01nov262312km8.jpg)

My week 22 does 4GHZ @ 1.054v on a Striker Extreme but this Mobo needs more voltage, not found MIN yet as I'm still testing FSB but it will be higher than 1.054v.

[Grnfinger]

Pleaze God..

Make this BIOS BUG FREE..

Dont hold your breath, I've been testing it since yesterday and its not good.
I'm scoring about 5000 points less in 3Dmark:shocked:
Thats a hell of a diffrence.

Pull-ins are still NOT WORKING, maybe Asus you could remove the option if your not going to make it function.

[humeyboy]

Asus are IDIOTS, the Multi is still Stuck. :mad:

[Grnfinger]

Perhaps Asus has let first year Engineering students take a wack at bios coding....nah even a first year student could do better.
Must be the tech support guy's coding bios

[screwtech02]

Well yeah Grn, you've never heard "For the runaround, please hold" on the tech support recording???

I guess its all about I7 then??? Typical ASUS "lack of" support.....:shakes:

[Grnfinger]

Well yeah Grn, you've never heard "For the runaround, please hold" on the tech support recording???

I guess its all about I7 then??? Typical ASUS "lack of" support.....:shakes:

Oh hell yes I have, I'm playing the RMA game now with my Maximus X38 for the second time around.
My only positive is Asus pay'd for OVERNIGHT shipping.:D

[SiGfever]

Perhaps Asus has let first year Engineering students take a wack at bios coding....nah even a first year student could do better.
Must be the tech support guy's coding bios

It is very disturbing that after three tries they still can't get it right. :shakes:

I guess since i7 is out now we have been handed down to the janitorial staff for bios enhancements. :shrug:

[EaglePC]

is this fine ? ooops that should I add ,I get a prime95 fails after 45 minutes


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 470
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-940MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Enabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.31
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
FSBT : 1.25
DRAM Voltage : 2.1
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.10

CPU GTL Reference 0 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +20mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference : Auto

Load Line Calibration : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

MY SYSTEM:
"ASUS Maximus II Formula LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
EVGA 896-P3-1267-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 Superclocked Edition 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80569Q9550 - Retail
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - Retail
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF - Retail
HT OMEGA CLARO Plus+ 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail
Thermaltake W0116RU 750W Complies with ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V version SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
Seagate Barracuda ES ST3250620NS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
COOLER MASTER Stacker 830 RC-830-SSN3-GP Silver Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail"

[Rocks]

is this fine ?


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 470
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-940MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Enabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.31
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
FSBT : 1.25
DRAM Voltage : 2.1
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.10

CPU GTL Reference 0 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +20mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference : Auto

Load Line Calibration : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

MY SYSTEM:
"ASUS Maximus II Formula LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
EVGA 896-P3-1267-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 Superclocked Edition 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80569Q9550 - Retail
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - Retail
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF - Retail
HT OMEGA CLARO Plus+ 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail
Thermaltake W0116RU 750W Complies with ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V version SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
Seagate Barracuda ES ST3250620NS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
COOLER MASTER Stacker 830 RC-830-SSN3-GP Silver Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail"


You haven't tested it yourself?

[Eeky NoX]

Gad !! How can't I bear this way of postin' :D

So we have to stay wit this 1307 ? aint' it ?Twice ? Unbearable for such high end mobo I think...Fù£µ them all !!

For the moment I hit 24k & 17k respectively on 3DM05 & 06 : just in TurboMode (@3,6) with a CF 4870 512mb +4850 1gb (@stock)

Now let's see what it gives @4,5 with GPU frequencies increased ;)

[CryptiK]

**EDIT - lol sorry about that rant after I was explaining some issues I left myself logged in at my mates place and he decided to write a whinge for me using my account :slap:

I have not tested 1702 yet but if it still has unresolved issues I wont bother. I look forward to a BIOS that has a working multiplier and working pull-ins, along with a couple of extra options ;)

[e.v.o]

Got word that the new 1801 BIOS doesn't have that "multi bug" anymore!
1702 is still beta, so stay at 1307 guys.


[ 1702 ]
----------------------
1. Add "Intel(R) C-STATE tech" item
2. Revise CPU Speed when "Ai Overclock Tuner" is "Auto"


Dont hold your breath, I've been testing it since yesterday and its not good.
I'm scoring about 5000 points less in 3Dmark:shocked:
Thats a hell of a diffrence.

Pull-ins are still NOT WORKING, maybe Asus you could remove the option if your not going to make it function.
Could you provide us with more information about that? Only in 3DMark? Only in cverclocked mode? A test at stock/oc settings (but manually set, no auto crap) with both bios version would be great!

[WaterFlex]

Who knows what is POWER in PC Probe? Where is this part placed on MB ?

[CryptiK]

power = mosfet temp which is the CPU VRM. They are around the CPU socket.

[WaterFlex]

I installed my LCS. Now without CPU Cooler my POWER reaches 45-46 degrees under Linpack, coz nothing blow that around CPU socket area. Is this temp dangerous?

[SiGfever]

I installed my LCS. Now without CPU Cooler my POWER reaches 45-46 degrees under Linpack, coz nothing blow that around CPU socket area. Is this temp dangerous?

I use one of the little Asus fans on the left Mosfet block along with my watercooling. I also use the Swiftech MCW-NBMAX WB for the heatpipe assy.

[EaglePC]

You haven't tested it yourself?

ooops that should I add ,I get a prime95 fails after 45 minutes



http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3456975&postcount=1990

[WaterFlex]

I have the problem. Before LCS I had TT Big Typhun which blew that around CPU socket area. I had the folowing max temps: SB 45, NB 50, POWER 36.
After installing LCS I became totally unstable: Linpack, MemTest 3,8, Prime95 gave me errors. Max temps are: SB 51, NB 56, POWER 45. I don`t think +6 degrees to SB and NB make my system unstable. But what about +9 degrees of POWER ? Even IntelBurnTest gives me errors.
To check this, I put fan over motherboard. And now i`m stable. But i don`t want to use additional fan .

So, what do I need? Swiftech MCW-NBMAX or waterblock on top mosfet? or both?

[WaterFlex]

It seems if you have the temperature of POWER 44-45 degrees or more, then you become unstable.

[CryptiK]

EAGLE PC - Try this:




Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 470
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-940MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : MODERATE
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Enabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.35
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
FSBT : 1.25
DRAM Voltage : 2.1
North Bridge Voltage : 1.35
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.10

CPU GTL Reference 0 : +50mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +10mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : +50mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +10mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference : Auto

Load Line Calibration : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled


I have the problem. Before LCS I had TT Big Typhun which blew that around CPU socket area. I had the folowing max temps: SB 45, NB 50, POWER 36.
After installing LCS I became totally unstable: Linpack, MemTest 3,8, Prime95 gave me errors. Max temps are: SB 51, NB 56, POWER 45. I don`t think +6 degrees to SB and NB make my system unstable. But what about +9 degrees of POWER ? Even IntelBurnTest gives me errors.
To check this, I put fan over motherboard. And now i`m stable. But i don`t want to use additional fan .

So, what do I need? Swiftech MCW-NBMAX or waterblock on top mosfet? or both?

It could be the NB temps, apparently P45's begin to act weird over around 50*C, but I have not confirmed this. I have been benching at ~1.49 vNB with NB temps of around 56*C, but the overclock was only bench stable anyway. I have hit 53*C on a hot day running memtest and it was fine.

Try to use the small fan asus supply for the mosfets and see if it helps. If mosfet temps fall and you're still unstable, try a small fan directly on the NB or use a NB block in your loop if you have one to try.

[radaja]

well, i given up on 500fsb 5/6 ddr2-1200. now trying max cpu OC,so far 4427.http://i36.tinypic.com/2sao6qg.jpg