ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[screwtech02]

Ahhh, but its all about the 4x2gb sticks here.......:D

[drnick]

Ahhh, but its all about the 4x2gb sticks here.......:D

I suddenly feel inadequate with only 4GB of RAM...

Anyway, my replacement board came with BIOS version 1306, dated 8/20/08. I can't find this anywhere on the ASUS site in the BIOS revision history. Anyone ever used this BIOS?

[CryptiK]

4GB of ram is fine unless you do serious graphics rendering, then 8GB can help. I have not heard of 1306 nor used it, any chance of backing it up and making it available for download by us?

About the very nice ram your defective board killed, you should contact Asus, they should replace it with something equivalent, as their defective board damaged it, and since your board was tested and confirmed to be defective, the responsibility lies squarely with them.

[drnick]

I have not heard of 1306 nor used it, any chance of backing it up and making it available for download by us?

No problem- I backed up the 1306 bios (ROM file) onto a usb drive. What is the easiest way to make it available for download (it is too big to add as an attachment)?

[nugzo]

No problem- I backed up the 1306 bios (ROM file) onto a usb drive. What is the easiest way to make it available for download (it is too big to add as an attachment)?

I pm'd you my email. Could you mail it to me?

[Gambit_2K]

A follow up on my board which rebooted during windows memtest and subsequently got "stuck" at CPU INIT and wouldn't post anymore- I removed the CPU (e8600) and cleared CMOS then popped it back in- still no post with LCD still showing CPU INIT. I even tried a different CPU (an e6850) and still no post. So I brought it back to the store and swapped it for a new one (techs at store did a perfunctory test on the board and declared it defective).

I think the old board had my RAM for breakfast though!:down: I had 4x1GB sticks of ballistix (my cherished vintage double sided memory bank variety) in it when it crapped out, and now when I put them back in another setup (where they were working fine before I pulled them for the MIIF) they immediately throw thousands of errors in memtest at stock speed and voltage.

I do have a general memory question(s): All things equal, will 2x2GB sticks or 4x1GB sticks require more NB voltage on this board, and given the choice between the two, what would most people prefer to use if they wanted 4GB of memory?

Thanks for the advice.

My board ate my memory for breakfast too, although I have Crucial BallistiX Tracers, I had 2x1 GB doublesided and 2x1 GB singelsided. My doublesided is totally scrapped and my singelsided is giving me bluescreens every 2 hours or so. Im going to RMA them and waiting for some 2*2 GB 1175 Mhz Apogee I ordered.

[e.v.o]

Anyway, my replacement board came with BIOS version 1306, dated 8/20/08. I can't find this anywhere on the ASUS site in the BIOS revision history. Anyone ever used this BIOS?

Sounds interesting but nothing serious. The official 1307 is from 8/22/08.
You can upload the BIOS (zipped) to www.megaupload.com or www.rapidshare.com.

[CryptiK]

I pulled my board apart to re-do the paste on the NB and SB. My temps were ok, but I wanted to make sure it was done properly.

Pics

Board with sinks removed:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/boardwithoutsinks2.jpg

Top fets, contact was better than I expected:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/topfets2.jpg

Side fets, contact also good:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/sidefets2.jpg

NB, notice the thick layer of paste:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/nbwithpaste2.jpg

SB, also had very thick paste:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/sbwithpaste2.jpg

NB cleaned:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/nbclean12.jpg

NB Heatsink, notice the foam spacers that can be removed (I did not remove them, I noticed there were traces around the holes and didn't want to damage them):
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/nbhslarge2.jpg

SB Heatsink, also has some foam & plastic spacers that can be removed, but again I left them on,for same reason as the NB, the traces may be damaged if the metal standoffs scratch them):
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/sbhs2.jpg

From re-doing the paste I dropped 5*C off the NB and 6*C off the SB temps. I may do the washer mod to apply a little more pressure on the NB and SB as after replacing the heatsink setup, I noticed the foam pads around the NB were not very compressed around the NB, so some more pressure may allow better contact and drop temps further.

[drnick]

I re-did the TIM on the NB and SB too using MX2. I was going to take the thermal tape off covering the fets too and put some MX2 on them as well, but it looked as though there was enough of a gap between them and the overlying heatsinks that better contact would be achieved just by leaving that thick thermal tape in place. According to asus probe, the power temperature never seems to exceed about 29C, so doesn't seem like it will be an issue.

CriptiK, did you do anything with the fets or just leave that thick thermal tape in place?

[e.v.o]

New BIOS has arrived:
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showpost.php?p=10409049&postcount=1393

[siavashsony]

ASUS Maximus II Formula bios 1403
http://rapidshare.com/files/156535304/ASUS-Maximus-II-Formula-bios-1403.rar

[SiGfever]

ASUS Maximus II Formula bios 1403
http://rapidshare.com/files/156535304/ASUS-Maximus-II-Formula-bios-1403.rar

:welcome:

Have you tried this bios?

[KURTZ]

guys, i'm wondering about the paste, can i use the Zalman STG-01 for the chipset?

edit: another Q: next week i wanna buy the swiftech WB for the NB, so i need to know i must put the paste under the WB cause i'm not sure i f that WB goes exactly over the chip or over the stock 'freezing system' ... :)

[Grnfinger]

Well is anyone going to comment on the new bios or shall I be the first lab rat

[e.v.o]

Already tested the new BIOS. Nothing really new.
Also took a look with MMTool and AMIBCP at it. Only found some minor changes to RAM and SMBus.
Someone at FdL told about some error with the intel ahci mode. the boards hangs at "DET IDE".

@KURTZ
For the NB i would use zalman, cause it has no IHS on it. for the rest i would use AS5.

[genec57]

I had a hang at auto detecting sata port 4 and port 6. It got past it but it took several minutes.
I didn't test extensively but it seemed ok other than the lengthy post. I have reverted back to 1307.

[Grnfinger]

Same here on the SATA port hang, maybe 1 min b4 it booted
Rig seems kinda sluggish with it loaded, maybe its in my head Everest scores are identical.
Thanks for sharing E.V.O. :up:

[oxyyy]

Make sure the maximum difference between the vFSB and vNB is no more than ~0.11v. So if you set 1.2 vFSB, set no more than 1.21v vNB otherwise it will just lock on reboot. This is a very annoying 'feature' of the M2F, and Asus need to fix it (along with a lot of other stuff I keep mentioning) to make this board what I would call decent.

anyone fixed this problem? For me it works with a maximum difference of ~0,15v.
But my CPU do realy well with low VTT, ~450FSB with 1,1v VTT... :)

[CryptiK]

@ drnick - I just left the thermal pad on the fets, the ones in the middle have worse contact the ones at the sides so I was concerned using thermal paste instead of the pad may make the middle fets not even touch.

@ oxyyy - I think this is dependent on your particular board. My board won't let me set the vFSB/vNB more than 0.11v apart until I get to ~1.25v vFSB, where the maximum vdiff I can set is around 0.15v.

*Why didn't Asus actually put into the new bios something decent this board really needs; Command Rate setting for the ram. Some better chipset efficiency would be nice too. From the reported problems I'm not even going to bother flashing to it to test it. Asus bios engineers are so lame, it takes them over a month to release a bios that is actually worse than the previous bios and contains nothing new.

[nugzo]

i'm on new bios now. Same SATA hang when booting. Takes minutes to just detect. Also it wont boot from old oc profile, if i set defaults and enter manually it'll boot. If i then save those settings i entered manually and try to load from them it wont post. I'm reverting back as well. I may try drnicks 1306.

[Grnfinger]

I am disapointed with the latest release, I wonder if anyone actualy tests them, clearly not.
Not even a tref change for improved bandwidth seems Asus are dragging there heels on this board's support.

[nugzo]

I am disapointed with the latest release, I wonder if anyone actualy tests them, clearly not.
Not even a tref change for improved bandwidth seems Asus are dragging there heels on this board's support.

I bet they're doin a lot of work on the x58's. Such an anticipated and new chipset right around the corner. Or maybe they are so busy with the 5000 P5Q Models.

[Funky]

AHCI is confirmed broken on the 1403 bios.

My first guess is that this is work under progress bios. Something as basic as AHCI is broken :P

Tested on 2 boards. Same results. Even ports do not work ( SATA 2, 4 and 6 dont work ) in AHCI mode. It takes long time to detect IDE drives as well.

Back to 1307.

[bonzo_catalin]

What is the top FSB reached by this mobo ?

[KURTZ]

Already tested the new BIOS. Nothing really new.
Also took a look with MMTool and AMIBCP at it. Only found some minor changes to RAM and SMBus.
Someone at FdL told about some error with the intel ahci mode. the boards hangs at "DET IDE".

@KURTZ
For the NB i would use zalman, cause it has no IHS on it. for the rest i would use AS5.

thx Evo :)

and what about the swiftech WB? someone has tried this?

[CryptiK]

Max FSB Ive seen is 607 on air, 670 with CPU on LN2 (or DICE, can't remember now).

The MCW30 will fit, but fits better if you mod it slightly. Theres pics in the thread somewhere. The MCW-NBMAX is made for this board (and the rampage extreme) so it will fit perfectly onto the existing heatpipe setup (not directly onto the nb chip) - look at the pics for an idea of the options you have.

Links to pics here:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=205323

[Grnfinger]

thx Evo :)

and what about the swiftech WB? someone has tried this?

MCW30 fits just fine, there was NO modding required

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0035-1.jpg

[CryptiK]

So it sits perfectly and the mounting posts are straight without modding?

[zoob]

For my board at least, I had to flip the mounting arms upsidedown. In addition to that the mounting posts were slightly crooked.
If this makes any sense:
Heatpipe/sink <---screw---(washer - spring+stopper - thumb screw)---screwhead.

[screwtech02]

Probably a dumb question, anyone using sata optical drives on the "speeding" sata headers, or is it not possible??

[Grnfinger]

So it sits perfectly and the mounting posts are straight without modding?

Posts are perfectly straight, yes the mounting arm had to be reversed but if thats considered modding:rofl:
The new NB block from Swiftech looks nice but dont see a need for it if you have the MCW30

[s@ber]

Does this board have compatibility problems with some mems? Meaning like Transend axeram or A-Data? I just cant get even 450FSB stable with any of setting wich have been posted here : / Even with solarfalls posted settings arent stable (this is his old mobo). Eventhought that ppl voltage is too low (1,51 is nearly the standart).

PPL 1,51
FSB ter. vol. 1,33
NB 1,43

One thing i havent tried yet is older bios with those setting.

CPU cant be the problem, cause this e8600 goes just fine with biostar Tpower. Mems are A-Data Vitesta Extreme PC2-6400+ and transend axerams with micron D9GMH chips.


Now i cant have even biostar working.. Well earlier I managed to run few tests with HD 2400 XT atleast:

http://hwbot.org/user.do?userId=10270

I already orderes new PSU if my old is the problem for all. Tomorrow I see what happens.

[GeorgeVasil]

Posts are perfectly straight, yes the mounting arm had to be reversed but if thats considered modding:rofl:
The new NB block from Swiftech looks nice but dont see a need for it if you have the MCW30

Can you post your NB&SB temps with this block please?(in order to make a comparison with the MCW-NBMAX i recenlty owned).

I run 8*500 and my temps are ΝΒ:46 Idle - 50 Load SB:40 Idle - 47 Load.

My W/C consists of ''Eleven's'' CPU Block [~33 Idle - 61 Load (Linpack) cooling a E8400 1.33v]/ MCW60-R that cools a 9800GTX 840 Core [32 idle - 40 load - Testing with Furmark] /Triple Radiator/Tank/MCP655.

It seems to me that something rong with my SB/NB Temps.Maybe Probe reports wrong temps.:mad:

[SiGfever]

If Asus doesn't start taking care of the people buying their high end boards "ROG" will change to "ROC" (Republic of Crap). :shakes:

Oh wait, I did get a flashy little ROG light. :ROTF:

[Grnfinger]

Can you post your NB&SB temps with this block please?(in order to make a comparison with the MCW-NBMAX i recenlty owned).

I run 8*500 and my temps are ΝΒ:46 Idle - 50 Load SB:40 Idle - 47 Load.

My W/C consists of ''Eleven's'' CPU Block [~33 Idle - 61 Load (Linpack) cooling a E8400 1.33v]/ MCW60-R that cools a 9800GTX 840 Core [32 idle - 40 load - Testing with Furmark] /Triple Radiator/Tank/MCP655.

It seems to me that something rong with my SB/NB Temps.Maybe Probe reports wrong temps.:mad:

My NB temp 39c idle 45-47 load running linpak
SB 40c idle 47c load

Running 471x8.5 @ 1.40vCore and 1.39150 vNB 1.1/1.5 vSB
PA120.3, Apogee GT, EK full coverage 3870X3, MCW30, MCP655 single bay res
Using Everest 4.60.1500

[Grnfinger]

If Asus doesn't start taking care of the people buying their high end boards "ROG" will change to "ROC" (Republic of Crap). :shakes:

Oh wait, I did get a flashy little ROG light. :ROTF:

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/Spit_on_Moniter.jpg

[GeorgeVasil]

If Asus doesn't start taking care of the people buying their high end boards "ROG" will change to "ROC" (Republic of Crap). :shakes:

Oh wait, I did get a flashy little ROG light. :ROTF:

Xexe..:rofl:


My NB temp 39c idle 45-47 load running linpak
SB 40c idle 47c load

Running 471x8.5 @ 1.40vCore and 1.39150 vNB 1.1/1.5 vSB
PA120.3, Apogee GT, EK full coverage 3870X3, MCW30, MCP655 single bay res
Using Everest 4.60.1500

Thanks for the info!

Did you mentioned any SB temp drop (aprox. 9-10C) after putting the block to the northy?

So there is a problem with my NB temps..(vnb=1.29)..

I will re-check my block/heatpipes contact..and i will mod my block..because it has a lite (inside) surface.:up:

[Grnfinger]

Xexe..:rofl:



Thanks for the info!

Did you mentioned any SB temp drop (aprox. 9-10C) after putting the block to the northy?

So there is a problem with my NB temps..(vnb=1.29)..

I will re-check my block/heatpipes contact..and i will mod my block..because it has a lite (inside) surface.:up:

Its been on water out of the box so I cant say what kinda temp drop the block made

[CryptiK]

Posts are perfectly straight, yes the mounting arm had to be reversed but if thats considered modding:rofl:
The new NB block from Swiftech looks nice but dont see a need for it if you have the MCW30

Nice, and no I definitely don't consider reversing the mounting arm to be modding :ROTF:

[drnick]

Hey, I was wondering if I could get some advice on what to tweak to get a stable 4+ GHz with this board and an e8600- I've looked through the thread and tried setups posted by cstkl1, BuGjAE, radaja, CryptiK, and others that have posted 4+ GHz dual core bios settings, and with all of them orthos invariably craps out with a rounding error within minutes (no pattern in which core fails that i could detect.).

Specs: MIIF 1306 bios w/ e8600 VID 1.25 watercooled
GSkill 2x2gb pc8800
pcp&c 750w
winxp64

I can get pretty decent memory bandwidth with the following settings (and I ran memtest for 5 complete rounds and 30 rounds of test 5 without errors), but again it fails orthos within minutes (usually seconds):

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 7
FSB Frequency: 572
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1142Mhz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto (also tried advancing all these 250 to 300)
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 65 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 101

CPU Voltage: tried 1.35 all the way up to 1.43
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56625
FSB Termination Voltage: tried 1.22 to 1.27
DRAM Voltage: 2.00
North Bridge Voltage: tried 1.27 to 1.37
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Tried auto and -40 to +40
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Tried auto and -40 to +40
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 7
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Thanks for any suggestions. I was wondering if I just needed to bludgeon it with more vcore, or if it simply won't fly with this lofty of a fsb goal (but many of the other setups I've emulated employ a lower fsb in the upper 400's to lower 500's range, and I still can't get stability with them).:shrug: I did set everything to stock timings and volts and i ran an error free orthos session for 8hrs (I was hoping this would throw errors too so i could blame the equipment!!!)

EDIT: I just got home to see my system at 4.05 GHz (450x9) is still priming error free at 10 hrs! I know I've tried 450x9 before and failed; I did however flash to the 1307 bios, disable loadline calibration, and bump up vcore a bit (I think I'm at 1.42 in bios and 1.36 according to everest under load) this time compared with previous failures at this speed.

[genec57]

I see a new bios for the M2F - 0803. It has a much smaller file size besides being out of numerical order. It is on the Asus web site but I think I will let someone else be the guinea pig on this one. Sounds a bit strange to me.

[Ender3rd]

I see a new bios for the M2F - 0803. It has a much smaller file size besides being out of numerical order. It is on the Asus web site but I think I will let someone else be the guinea pig on this one. Sounds a bit strange to me.

Yah, that one is an error. It is for the P5Q-SE series. Someone at ASUS dumped it into the wrong motherboard archive. Seriously, would you trust a bios that was released on a Friday afternoon???

:)

[CryptiK]

@ drnick - you have 2 possible approaches. You can use the 10x multi and keep the ram 1:1 with the FSB, keep the timings loose, set PL10, give the cpu ~1.2v vFSB and the NB ~1.30v and find the max cpu clock for the vcore you are comfortable with. Then bring everything else up and find the best ram settings for whatever FSB you have settled on. Finally adjust the voltages so you are giving the bare minimum for everything to be stable.

or

Keep the multi low (eg 6x) and push the FSB to the level you're aiming for keeping the ram initially at 1:1, PL10, and when you have the FSB and ram stable at the given speed, bump up the multi until you find the max the cpu can handle for the vcore you're comfortable with. Then adjust the other voltages so your giving everything the bare minimum required for stability.

[Codeman05]

Guys...need some help.

Recently replaced my dying 780i with this Maxumus II Formula, but I'm running into some problems.
This cpu did 4.5GHz with ease on the 780, however right now I'm struggling with 4.1 GHz.

The problem seems to be that the only way I can get past 400FSB is with the 400MHz Strap and the 4:3 divisor.
The only problem with that is I am then limited to ~430 FSB (DDR 1146).

I would like to use the 1:1 divisor and drop my multi, but if the FSB is at all over 400, with the 1:1 divisor the MB will not post.
The LCD freezes at "DET DRAM".

Any suggestions?

Here is my working config...changing the divisor to 1:1 again results in no post.


Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9.5
FSB Frequency: 430
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1146Mhz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: 5
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 60
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 5

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): 10
Write to Read Delay (S): 4
Write to Read Delay (D): 5
Read to Read Delay (S): 6
Read to Read Delay (D): 6
Write to Write Delay (S): 5
Write to Write Delay (D): 6

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: 16
Read to PRE Delay: 6
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
All PRE to ACT Delay: 6
All PRE to REF Delay: 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 8
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: tried 1.40
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.4
DRAM Voltage: 2.2
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): +20
CPU GTL Reference (1): +20
CPU GTL Reference (2): +20
CPU GTL Reference (3): +20
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9.5
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled


Thanks for the help

[nugzo]

Guys...need some help.

Recently replaced my dying 780i with this Maxumus II Formula, but I'm running into some problems.
This cpu did 4.5GHz with ease on the 780, however right now I'm struggling with 4.1 GHz.

The problem seems to be that the only way I can get past 400FSB is with the 400MHz Strap and the 4:3 divisor.
The only problem with that is I am then limited to ~430 FSB (DDR 1146).

I would like to use the 1:1 divisor and drop my multi, but if the FSB is at all over 400, with the 1:1 divisor the MB will not post.
The LCD freezes at "DET DRAM".

Any suggestions?

Here is my working config...changing the divisor to 1:1 again results in no post.


Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9.5
FSB Frequency: 430
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1146Mhz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: 5
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 60
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 5

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): 10
Write to Read Delay (S): 4
Write to Read Delay (D): 5
Read to Read Delay (S): 6
Read to Read Delay (D): 6
Write to Write Delay (S): 5
Write to Write Delay (D): 6

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: 16
Read to PRE Delay: 6
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
All PRE to ACT Delay: 6
All PRE to REF Delay: 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 8
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: tried 1.40
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.4
DRAM Voltage: 2.2
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): +20
CPU GTL Reference (1): +20
CPU GTL Reference (2): +20
CPU GTL Reference (3): +20
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9.5
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled


Thanks for the help

Up PL to 10 for now. 10 is lowest you can go 1:1. Maybe some more vNB will help. Also set DRAM CLK Skew to advance 250

[e.v.o]

If Asus doesn't start taking care of the people buying their high end boards "ROG" will change to "ROC" (Republic of Crap). :shakes:

I can't lough about that anymore. The board, for its price tag.. is simply just crap at all. DFI boards do better FSBs, cost less and also have a better soundcard. it is frustrating to see that asus doesn't take care about their RoG line...

[CryptiK]

I too am a little disappointed with the board's performance. For the price, it's very disappointing. I think with the ROG line, Asus have tried to entice fanboy gamers rather than legitimate, skilled overclockers. Take a look at the 'Level up' promo video on the drivers DVD that came with the mobo, and I believe the demographic Asus have aimed the board at becomes clear. I saw it weeks after I bought the board when I installed asus probe, and thought "oh no". I honestly believed it when Asus said RoG was for serious overclockers, but sadly it seems like it surely is not. Perhaps the Rampage Extreme is good though, but this board is weak, and there are many other P45 boards that can do as well as it, and cost less.

However there is no P45 or X48 board currently out I'd spend any money on. The Rampage Formula doesn't do it for me, it struggles to get a quad over 495 FSB, and seems flimsy in construction with poorly designed heatsinks sporting plastic pushpin retainers, and a bios lacking the depth of control I'd like to see. The UD3P looks like the cherry picked boards one or two reviewers got are ok, but the retail ones are nothing special, and the recent failures of a few boards taking the cpu's with them is very disconcerting. The Biostar boards are too lacking in features and have too coarse voltage adjustments to use 24/7, and the P5Q range have poor quality control and exhibit erratic behaviour. DFI's latest X48 or P45 offerings have not turned out to be impressive either (all the DFI P45 does well is SPI 1M,a nd the X48 is just bad.

If Asus made a board that was identical to the Rampage Extreme in hardware and bios options but had DDR2 instead, I'd probably go for it, but sadly they don't. Trying to choose a good board these days is pretty much impossible.

The MIIF is ok for a 24/7 system, but it's nothing special like it was cracked up to be.

EDIT - if I were to buy another board, I'd probably get the Rampage Formula, as it comes the closest to what I want in a board. I probably wouldn't be 'happy' with it though.

[TonyL222]

Need Advice on getting past 3720MHz with my Q6700. BIOS is 1307, memory is G.Skill PC28800 (2x2GB). System is water cooled so keeping the heat in accpetable ranges is not an issue. 3720Mhz (8x465) is rock solid at current settings. I haven't been able to get stable at any settings that result in a cpu speed greater than that. Ultimately, I'd like to hit 4MHz or a little higher maybe 9x445. The only seetings I have adjusted beyond those below is the vcore, and I've had it up to 1.5v with no stable success. Any help/ideas would be appreciated.



Processor: Q6700
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 465
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1119MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Dram Read Training : Auto
MEM OC Charger : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto
Performance Level =

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5265
FSBT : Auto
DRAM Voltage : 1.9
North Bridge Voltage : 1.1265
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1265

CPU GTL Reference 0 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 2 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference : Auto

Load Line Calabration : Auto
CPU Sread Spectrum : Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Auto

[CryptiK]

You're already pretty much at the max acceptable vcore for 24/7 and you said you hadnt gained anything by increasing it to 1.5v. Your vNB is very low though I'm actually surprised your stable at those settings now. First we can eliminate the ram and leave it 1:1 and find max cpu speed.

Try these settings, Ive made changes in bold:


Processor: Q6700
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 470
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-940MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Dram Read Training : disabled
MEM OC Charger : disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual
Performance Level = 10

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5265
FSBT : 1.25v
DRAM Voltage : 1.9
North Bridge Voltage : 1.3v
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1265

CPU GTL Reference 0 : +50mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +10mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : +50mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +10mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference : Auto

Load Line Calabration : enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : disabled

If your cpu has a 9x multiplier you could try this for 3.8GHz


Processor: Q6700
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 423
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-846MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Dram Read Training : disabled
MEM OC Charger : disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual
Performance Level = 10

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5265
FSBT : 1.25v
DRAM Voltage : 1.9
North Bridge Voltage : 1.3v
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1265

CPU GTL Reference 0 : +50mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +10mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : +50mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +10mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference : Auto

Load Line Calabration : enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : disabled

[SiGfever]

cryptik,

What do you think of these settings for him?


Processor: Q6700
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-900 range (for testing)
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : 300ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 :300ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : 300ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : 300ps


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled (then try Disabled)
Dram Read Training : Auto
MEM OC Charger : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual
Performance Level 10

PCIE Frequency : 101

CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
FSBT : 1.33850
DRAM Voltage : 1.95 (or close)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.37825
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.10

CPU GTL Reference 0 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 2 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference : Auto

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[CryptiK]

Your settings would definitely give him more headroom, but he is already stable at 465 x 8 so I reckon trying to get him onto the 9x multi and lowering the ram to 1:1 and boosting a couple of voltages will show what his cpu's limit is.

[SiGfever]

Your settings would definitely give him more headroom, but he is already stable at 465 x 8 so I reckon trying to get him onto the 9x multi and lowering the ram to 1:1 and boosting a couple of voltages will show what his cpu's limit is.

I edited the numbers some.

[CryptiK]

Looks fine, I'd add my GTL Ref settings to that though as they do help, and your voltages are a little more aggressive, but the cpu can handle it, he just has to try it out. Not many Q66's or 67's do 3.8GHz+ without getting insane on the voltages so it might be at its limit.

[SiGfever]

Looks fine, I'd add my GTL Ref settings to that though as they do help, and your voltages are a little more aggressive, but the cpu can handle it, he just has to try it out. Not many Q66's or 67's do 3.8GHz+ without getting insane on the voltages so it might be at its limit.

I do use your GTL settings and they helped me lower my vcore and FSB. :up:

[Darknezz]

Hello what's the highest Fsb anyone has run with 2x2Gb Bloks???

[Codeman05]

Up PL to 10 for now. 10 is lowest you can go 1:1. Maybe some more vNB will help. Also set DRAM CLK Skew to advance 250

Thanks, that was it, I'm now able to use the 1:1.
I'm booting a 1:1 with 453x9.5 = 4.3GHZ & 906DDR2 as I know this was stable on my prior board.

I can boot but I now fail Prime blend in under 5 minutes on one thread, 10ish on the second.
Looks like I'm hitting another FSB wall. 477x9 w/ 1:1 fails in about 3 seconds.

Bios Settings (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3381567&postcount=1547)

How high can I go "safely" on the FSB Term & vNB?
Or do I need to loosen up the memory even though it is running slower?

Thanks guys, sorry for the questions, my first Intel chipset since the NF2 :ROTF:

[CryptiK]

Thanks, that was it, I'm now able to use the 1:1.
I'm booting a 1:1 with 453x9.5 = 4.3GHZ & 906DDR2

I know these settings were easily stable on the 780i, but I now fail Prime blend in under 5 minutes on one thread, 10ish on the second.
Looks like I'm hitting another FSB wall.

Bios Settings (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3381567&postcount=1547)

How high can I go "safely" on the FSB Term & vNB?
Or do I need to loosen up the memory even though it is running slower?

Thanks guys, sorry for the questions, my first Intel chipset since the NF2 :ROTF:

Your ram should be ok as it is, and your vNB shouldnt need to go higher for chipset stability.

Try +60/+10/+60/+10 on the GTL refs, and enable load line calibration. I'd also drop that vFSB to ~1.3v you shouldnt need 1.4v.


Hello what's the highest Fsb anyone has run with 2x2Gb Bloks???

FSB is not really relevant regarding memory module size, if your 2 x 2GB ram does 550 MHz, your could run 550 FSB.

[Codeman05]

Your ram should be ok as it is, and your vNB shouldnt need to go higher for chipset stability.

Try +60/+10/+60/+10 on the GTL refs, and enable load line calibration. I'd also drop that vFSB to ~1.3v you shouldnt need 1.4v.

Well that helped slightly, but still the first thread fails within 6 minutes.
Think I just got a bad draw on this board? I know the cpu & ddr are good for these speeds, just seems like the mobo isn't keeping up.

Here are the current settings after your recommendations:



Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9.5
FSB Frequency: 453
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-906Mhz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advance 250
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 250
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advance 250
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 250
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: 5
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 60
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 5

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): 10
Write to Read Delay (S): 4
Write to Read Delay (D): 5
Read to Read Delay (S): 6
Read to Read Delay (D): 6
Write to Write Delay (S): 5
Write to Write Delay (D): 6

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: 16
Read to PRE Delay: 6
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
All PRE to ACT Delay: 6
All PRE to REF Delay: 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.325
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.45
DRAM Voltage: 2.2
North Bridge Voltage: 1.30
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): +60
CPU GTL Reference (1): +10
CPU GTL Reference (2): +60
CPU GTL Reference (3): +10
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9.5
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled


Thanks again

[Codeman05]

Well I raising my CPL from 10 to 12...now Priming for 20 mins....certainly not long enough to say its rock stable, but that does appear to have taken me past this little FSB wall that failed in under 5.

Will keep you posted, going to start trying for 4.5GHz now

[CryptiK]

OK, give it more vNB - try 1.4 vNB and PL10 again. Also increase you vcore to ~1.35v in bios.

[Darknezz]

My probelem is that my computer freezes up en windows when i Have the Fsb at 530 and the ram are running at 1066mhz but run Prime95 for 6 hours no freeze op just when i use explorer..?? Need some settings. Ram are 2x2Gb PC2-8500 Vitesta Extreme Edition

CPU Voltage:
CPU PLL Voltage:
FSB Termination Voltage:
DRAM Voltage:
North Bridge Voltage:
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage:
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage:

Or what ever need tunning..

[psygnosi]

Hi Cryptik,

I have these settings currently on my system and IBT gets 10 passes and prime95quad passes for 12 Hours. I need help tweaking the GTLs. I'm not sure I if I did the calculations correctly. Thanks in advance.

Psygnosi

4.0Ghz (8.5 x 470)
Processor: Q9550 E0 FPO/Batch L827A932 S-Spec SLB8V

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 470
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-940MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Enabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.39
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
FSBT : 1.25
DRAM Voltage : 1.9
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.10

CPU GTL Reference 0 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : -40mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : -40mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference : Auto

Load Line Calibration : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[CryptiK]

My probelem is that my computer freezes up en windows when i Have the Fsb at 530 and the ram are running at 1066mhz but run Prime95 for 6 hours no freeze op just when i use explorer..?? Need some settings. Ram are 2x2Gb PC2-8500 Vitesta Extreme Edition

CPU Voltage:
CPU PLL Voltage:
FSB Termination Voltage:
DRAM Voltage:
North Bridge Voltage:
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage:
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage:

Or what ever need tunning..

What vdimm are you currently running? Can you pass Prime95 large FFT and 5 - 10 passes of linpack? Is the ram memtest stable? You should be at about 1.3 - 1.35 vNB for 530 FSB stable.


Hi Cryptik,

I have these settings currently on my system and IBT gets 10 passes and prime95quad passes for 12 Hours. I need help tweaking the GTLs. I'm not sure I if I did the calculations correctly. Thanks in advance.

Psygnosi

4.0Ghz (8.5 x 470)
Processor: Q9550 E0 FPO/Batch L827A932 S-Spec SLB8V

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 470
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-940MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Enabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.39
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
FSBT : 1.25
DRAM Voltage : 1.9
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.10

CPU GTL Reference 0 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : -40mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : -40mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference : Auto

Load Line Calibration : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Looks fine, you did it correctly. You could try all positive values too, it may even help drop your vcore a notch, or it may not be stable, just depends on your cpu. Try:

CPU GTL Reference 0 : +50mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +10mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : +50mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +10mv

[psygnosi]

Thanks Cryptik,

I'll try out the values now.

Psygnosi:)

[CryptiK]

OK anyone struggling on the 266 strap, consider this. I was at:
1112 MHz ram
5-5-5-12-3-30-6-3 @ 2.00v
PL8
266 strap
static read and dram read training disabled
Clock twister on moderate
vNB 1.27

I was pulling ~9500MB/s & 54.5ns in everest

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/1113266strap.jpg

I now have changed this to:

1069MHz ram (1068 real)
5-5-4-12-2-25-4-2 @ 1.94v
PL8
333 strap
static read and dram read training enabled
Clock twister on stronger
vNB 1.27 **EDIT - after testing, this setting needs 1.30 vNB due to aggressive chipset timings, I stopped dual windows memtest at 1500% coverage, which I consider to be stable.

and I get 60mb/s lower read bandwidth, the same write & higher copy bandwidth and 53.9 ns latency.

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/1068333strap.jpg

[Grnfinger]

My new GSkills should be here tomorrow, will allow me to get rid of this mushkin ram and run more aggresive timing @1140MHz
should get very close to 10k r/w/c if not slightly above it

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/40_gskill.png

[CryptiK]

I have been doing some testing with Static Read Control & Dram Read Training enabled, and Clock Twister on Strong or Stronger. With Clock Twister set to strong/stronger it takes quite a bit of vNB to stabilize it, I was around 1.37 - 1.45 vNB for the various tests.

The use of SRC & DRT and setting strong or stronger gives a definite boost to bandwidth across the board and reduces latency significantly. At 534 FSB 5:6 Divider I had to drop CT to Strong, as even with 1.49 vNB I could not get into windows. Also notice the latency is almost identical between 500 FSB 5:6 CT Stronger and 534 FSB 5:6 CT Strong.

It appears that Clock Twister lowers latency significantly and has a noticeable but not large effect on bandwidth, and tRD (PL) has a great effect on bandwidth and a moderate effect on latency.

450 FSB 3:4 Divider, PL8, SRC & DRT Enabled, CT Stronger:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/450FSB3-4dividerPL8SRCDRTenabledCTS.jpg

450 FSB 3:4 Divider, PL7, SRC & DRT Enabled, CT Stronger:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/450FSB3-4dividerPL7SRCDRTenabledCTS.jpg

500 FSB 5:6 Divider, PL8, SRC & DRT Enabled, CT Stronger:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/500-600PL8SRCDRTenabledCTstronger14.jpg

534 FSB 5:6 Divider, PL8, SRC & DRT Enabled, CT Strong:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/534-6405-6PL8SRCDRTenabledCTstrong1.jpg

[Lusken]

Have someone Tried to change the Goop on this motherboard? Someone with Picz? :)

I want to change this, because my NB and SB temp's are a little hig (I think).

[SiGfever]

My new GSkills should be here tomorrow, will allow me to get rid of this mushkin ram and run more aggresive timing @1140MHz
should get very close to 10k r/w/c if not slightly above it


I too have the same set do in about mid-week. :up:

Edit:

I just changed my settings from "Auto" Dram Read Timing to "Enabled" and Ai Clock Twister from "Moderate" to "Strong" and here are my benches. I did not adjust any timings yet.

[CryptiK]

Have someone Tried to change the Goop on this motherboard? Someone with Picz? :)

I want to change this, because my NB and SB temp's are a little hig (I think).

Yes I did it and posted pics of the process 2 pages ago.

Here:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3374541&postcount=1511

[GeorgeVasil]

My new GSkills should be here tomorrow, will allow me to get rid of this mushkin ram and run more aggresive timing @1140MHz
should get very close to 10k r/w/c if not slightly above it
[/IMG]


I too have the same set do in about mid-week. :up:


That's why memoryc run out of stock last week??:rofl::rofl:

Me the third byer..:D

[CryptiK]

I too have the same set do in about mid-week. :up:

Edit:

I just changed my settings from "Auto" Dram Read Timing to "Enabled" and Ai Clock Twister from "Moderate" to "Strong" and here are my benches. I did not adjust any timings yet.

Do you have Static Read control enabled too? You may have to raise vNB to keep it stable after you make changes to SRC, DRT and Clock twister. Clock twister on strong or stronger uses very aggressive MCH timings
.

[Grnfinger]

1.39vNB should be good up to 475-480FSB

Now if Asus could fix the pull-ins and actually make them work that would be special

[SiGfever]

Do you have Static Read control enabled too? You may have to raise vNB to keep it stable after you make changes to SRC, DRT and Clock twister. Clock twister on strong or stronger uses very aggressive MCH timings
.

Yes it is enabled, here is my complete settings ATM.



Processor: QX9770
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 467
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1122MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 300ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

[B]1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: Enabled
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Strong
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 8
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 101

CPU Voltage: 1.41250
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.35175
DRAM Voltage: 2.15775
North Bridge Voltage: 1.39150
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1):-40mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3):-40mv
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[CryptiK]

1.39vNB should be good up to 475-480FSB

Now if Asus could fix the pull-ins and actually make them work that would be special

Yes, I needed 1.42v for 500 FSB for CT on stronger with SRC & DRT enabled.

And if Asus could make the pullins work it would be awesome. I want the most aggresive chipset timings possible, its the only way to get good clock for clock performance out of the P45. Compared to eva200's gigabyte P45 board the M2F holds its own, I just beat his bandwidth and latency. They should make the timings tighter for each tRD (PL) setting, I don't care if I'd have to run higher vNB to get it stable.


Yes it is enabled, here is my complete settings ATM.



Processor: QX9770
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 467
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1122MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 300ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: Enabled
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Strong
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 8
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 101

CPU Voltage: 1.41250
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.35175
DRAM Voltage: 2.15775
North Bridge Voltage: 1.39150
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1):-40mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3):-40mv
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled



Not bad at all, can you run CT = Stronger? Should drop the latency a bit more and give you a little more bandwidth.

[Teppo]

Hi, I was wanting to overclock my system a bit, I was looking for 3.6ghz 24/7 and was not quite sure what settings to change in bios, can someone please help me out with the Extreme Tweaker settings to achieve this? Thank you...

System
Vista Ultimate 64
Antec Twelve Hundred Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000GLFS 300GB 10000 RPM SATA
ASUS Maximus II Formula
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz co
ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED
DIAMOND Radeon HD 4870 1GB
CORSAIR Dominator 4GB (4 x 1GB) DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro Series
Logitech G9 Laser Gaming Mouse
Razer Lycosa Gaming Keyboard
SAMSUNG T240 24" 5ms HDMI Widescreen

[nugzo]

Hi, I was wanting to overclock my system a bit, I was looking for 3.6ghz 24/7 and was not quite sure what settings to change in bios, can someone please help me out with the Extreme Tweaker settings to achieve this? Thank you...

System
Vista Ultimate 64
Antec Twelve Hundred Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000GLFS 300GB 10000 RPM SATA
ASUS Maximus II Formula
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz co
ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED
DIAMOND Radeon HD 4870 1GB
CORSAIR Dominator 4GB (4 x 1GB) DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro Series
Logitech G9 Laser Gaming Mouse
Razer Lycosa Gaming Keyboard
SAMSUNG T240 24" 5ms HDMI Widescreen



Welcome to XS. I suggest read through this thread as well as this condensed version. (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=205323)
Get familiar with the board some, i'm sure there are plenty of templates as well for your particular hardware in this thread and the other MIIF thread.

[nugzo]

Hi, I was wanting to overclock my system a bit, I was looking for 3.6ghz 24/7 and was not quite sure what settings to change in bios, can someone please help me out with the Extreme Tweaker settings to achieve this? Thank you...

System
Vista Ultimate 64
Antec Twelve Hundred Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000GLFS 300GB 10000 RPM SATA
ASUS Maximus II Formula
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz co
ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED
DIAMOND Radeon HD 4870 1GB
CORSAIR Dominator 4GB (4 x 1GB) DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro Series
Logitech G9 Laser Gaming Mouse
Razer Lycosa Gaming Keyboard
SAMSUNG T240 24" 5ms HDMI Widescreen



Welcome to XS. I suggest read through this thread some as well as this Asus Maximus II Formula - Problems & Fixes thread. (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=205323)
Get familiar with the board some, i'm sure there are plenty of templates as well for your particular hardware in this thread and the other MIIF thread.

[SiGfever]

Yes, I needed 1.42v for 500 FSB for CT on stronger with SRC & DRT enabled.

And if Asus could make the pullins work it would be awesome. I want the most aggresive chipset timings possible, its the only way to get good clock for clock performance out of the P45. Compared to eva200's gigabyte P45 board the M2F holds its own, I just beat his bandwidth and latency. They should make the timings tighter for each tRD (PL) setting, I don't care if I'd have to run higher vNB to get it stable.



Not bad at all, can you run CT = Stronger? Should drop the latency a bit more and give you a little more bandwidth.

Thanks, I will give it a try. I have the G.Skill DDR2-8800 2x2GB due in mid week which should help some.

Edit:

Here is "Stronger".

[drnick]

Thank you for the info!

CryptiK, I apologize if you stated this and I missed it, but what memory were you using when you posted your findings with Static Read Control & Dram Read Training, and Clock Twister?

[Teppo]

Welcome to XS. I suggest read through this thread some as well as this Asus Maximus II Formula - Problems & Fixes thread. (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=205323)
Get familiar with the board some, i'm sure there are plenty of templates as well for your particular hardware in this thread and the other MIIF thread.

Thanks for the welcome and reply, I have looked over those threads and have found some close to my setup, but not quite the same, so I am not sure if I can set my settings to those, I figured 3.6ghz would be a safe overclock without having to worry to much about heat and so forth. I was thinking about following CryptiK settings which are at 4.0ghz I believe, but he is using 2GB of ram where I have 4 so I didnt try it and wasnt wanting to overclock quite that high.

[CryptiK]

Thank you for the info!

CryptiK, I apologize if you stated this and I missed it, but what memory were you using when you posted your findings with Static Read Control & Dram Read Training, and Clock Twister?

I actually neglected to state that, I used my Team PC-8500 2 x 1GB kit.


Thanks for the welcome and reply, I have looked over those threads and have found some close to my setup, but not quite the same, so I am not sure if I can set my settings to those, I figured 3.6ghz would be a safe overclock without having to worry to much about heat and so forth. I was thinking about following CryptiK settings which are at 4.0ghz I believe, but he is using 2GB of ram where I have 4 so I didnt try it and wasnt wanting to overclock quite that high.

Well if you want 3.8GHz which should be easy, bump the FSB up to 423 using the 9x divider. You may need a little more vcore but I don't know what you're using now. Also use the 4:5 divider, which should put your ram ~1050 MHz and close to its rated speed so if you set the vdimm to the rated vdimm it should be fine. Also with vNB, you will need a little more than me as you have 4GB but just test it find what's stable.

Fill out a template showing your current settings and we can make you an approximate template for 3.8 GHz or whatever you want to have a go at if you need some assistance.

*EDIT - SiGfever - well you gained a bit of bandwidth and lowered the latency going from strong to stronger. It may as I said take a little more vNB for stability now, but you will definitely have better performance.

I really wish the pull-ins worked, enabled they should give about 150 MB/s increase across the board in everest and ~ 1.5ns latency decrease.

**EDIT 2 - I really have to work out a better cooling solution for the NB, benching SPI32M at 533 FSB / DDR 1280 with 1.49 vNB the NB was idling at 54*C, although it is a warm day ~26*C ambient

[Darknezz]

Well i got passed 10 test on LinX now but the memory is only running at 904mhz but well try too push it up later today. But the memory likes too run in the blue slot i can't get them too do it in the white slots


Ratio CMOS Setting: 9.5
FSB Frequency: 453
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-Mhz 906
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advance 300
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 300
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advance 300
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 300
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay:
Row Refresh Recycle Time:
Write Recovery Time:
Read to Precharge Time:

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D):
Write to Read Delay (S):
Write to Read Delay (D):
Read to Read Delay (S):
Read to Read Delay (D):
Write to Write Delay (S):
Write to Write Delay (D):

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay:
Read to PRE Delay:
PRE to PRE Delay:
All PRE to ACT Delay:
All PRE to REF Delay:
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.38
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.45
DRAM Voltage: 2.19
North Bridge Voltage: 1.37
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): +50
CPU GTL Reference (1): +10
CPU GTL Reference (2): +50
CPU GTL Reference (3): +10
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9.5
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[Darknezz]

Q: Memory Remap feature should it be Enable or Disabled ???

[IlludiumQ36]

Q: Memory Remap feature should it be Enable or Disabled ???
It should be enabled if you are using a 64-bit OS and you have more than 3GB RAM.

[CryptiK]

Ok, more benches. Just compared the P45 to a DFI X48 board in memory bandwidth and latency in everest. The X48 board bench was done by eva2000.

The general settings were 533 FSB, Ram @ 639.6 MHz, CPU @ 3997 MHz

My boards additional settings were:

Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training: Enabled
Clock Twister: Stronger
vNB: 1.45v
vdimm: 2.25v

The X48 had ram set to 5-5-5-9, my p45 had ram set to 5-5-5-15

X48 bench:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/X48Everest533FSB6396MHz.png

P45 Bench:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/533-63965-6PL8SRCDRTenabledCTstrong.jpg

Comparison Table:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/X48vsP45at533FSB6396MHz3997MHz.jpg

Here is SPI32M at my 24/7 settings. Not bad efficiency for a P45 and conservative ram speed and timings:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/SPI32M445FSB534MHzSRCDRTenabledDTSt.jpg

[Darknezz]

It should be enabled if you are using a 64-bit OS and you have more than 3GB RAM.



Thanks for the info :)

[Ender3rd]

Looks like the P45 more than held its own in the memory performance comparison with the X48. Interesting results, and not what I would have expected given what people have previously reported.

Nice!


Ok, more benches. Just compared the P45 to a DFI X48 board in memory bandwidth and latency in everest. The X48 board bench was done by eva2000.

The general settings were 533 FSB, Ram @ 639.6 MHz, CPU @ 3997 MHz

My boards additional settings were:

Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training: Enabled
Clock Twister: Stronger
vNB: 1.45v
vdimm: 2.25v

The X48 had ram set to 5-5-5-9, my p45 had ram set to 5-5-5-15

[e.v.o]

The general settings were 533 FSB, Ram @ 639.6 MHz, CPU @ 3997 MHz

My boards additional settings were:

Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training: Enabled
Clock Twister: Stronger
vNB: 1.45v
vdimm: 2.25v

The X48 had ram set to 5-5-5-9, my p45 had ram set to 5-5-5-15

Comparison Table:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/X48vsP45at533FSB6396MHz3997MHz.jpg

now thats impressive! :shocked: .. thanks for all your testing and information about that!
... but 1.45vNB isn't that good :eek:
Big differences when SRC/DRT is disabled?

[bito]

Have any of you guys played with the NB GTL Ref ??
I added +20mV to mine today and it has allowed me to lower my VFSB and VNB by a HUGE amount, with a Q9650.
If i put it back to Auto, with lower values for those two settings, the machine will BSOD.
Give it a try and post results here :)

[Grnfinger]

New G.Skills are in :D
Running memtest now, crossing fingers they dont fail.
Have some benches shortly after memtest

[nugzo]

New G.Skills are in :D
Running memtest now, crossing fingers they dont fail.
Have some benches shortly after memtest

Which gskills? I ordered these (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231216) last week. should be here tomorrow

[nugzo]

Ok, more benches. Just compared the P45 to a DFI X48 board in memory bandwidth and latency in everest. The X48 board bench was done by eva2000.

The general settings were 533 FSB, Ram @ 639.6 MHz, CPU @ 3997 MHz

My boards additional settings were:

Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training: Enabled
Clock Twister: Stronger
vNB: 1.45v
vdimm: 2.25v

The X48 had ram set to 5-5-5-9, my p45 had ram set to 5-5-5-15

X48 bench:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/X48Everest533FSB6396MHz.png

P45 Bench:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/533-63965-6PL8SRCDRTenabledCTstrong.jpg

Comparison Table:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/X48vsP45at533FSB6396MHz3997MHz.jpg

Here is SPI32M at my 24/7 settings. Not bad efficiency for a P45 and conservative ram speed and timings:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/SPI32M445FSB534MHzSRCDRTenabledDTSt.jpg

Nice work. Its crazy though having to push our memory so hard (600+Mhz) to break 10k on theses intel chipsets. I miss hitting 11k+ with nforce @ 400-450mhz. I never even tried anything any higher than link sync. I wonder what 600+mhz would have done. I think i'll order another SIIF and see. I miss SLI and playing everest.

[Codeman05]

Well guys, I've just about had it with this board...

I cannot prime blend for more than 30 minutes without an error.

I have tried 2 different sets of G.Skill 2x2GB F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK PC8500
As well as a set of 2x1 GB A-Data PC6400 that I know performs at 1066.
All 3 sets passed memtest but all fail at the 30-35 minute mark on prime blend.

Even stock clocks, cpu and ddr2....same story. This exact rig was 24hr prime stable on a 780i board @ 474x9.5 & 1:1

Current settings are as follows:


Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9.5
FSB Frequency: 453
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-906Mhz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advance 250
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 250
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advance 250
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 250
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: 5
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 60
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 5

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): 10
Write to Read Delay (S): 4
Write to Read Delay (D): 5
Read to Read Delay (S): 6
Read to Read Delay (D): 6
Write to Write Delay (S): 5
Write to Write Delay (D): 6

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: 16
Read to PRE Delay: 6
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
All PRE to ACT Delay: 6
All PRE to REF Delay: 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.350
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.45
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): +60
CPU GTL Reference (1): +10
CPU GTL Reference (2): +60
CPU GTL Reference (3): +10
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9.5
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled


Any help would be appreciated it. I've got some good advice here on the forum tweaking the board, but so far not much success =/
Starting to think it's faulty...or I'm insane.

Thanks! :)

[Teppo]

I actually neglected to state that, I used my Team PC-8500 2 x 1GB kit.



Well if you want 3.8GHz which should be easy, bump the FSB up to 423 using the 9x divider. You may need a little more vcore but I don't know what you're using now. Also use the 4:5 divider, which should put your ram ~1050 MHz and close to its rated speed so if you set the vdimm to the rated vdimm it should be fine. Also with vNB, you will need a little more than me as you have 4GB but just test it find what's stable.

Fill out a template showing your current settings and we can make you an approximate template for 3.8 GHz or whatever you want to have a go at if you need some assistance.


Well the only thing I have changed in the bios is the ram to 1066 (4GB pc8500) othe than that everything is set at auto, I am looking to go from stock 3.0ghz to 3.6ghz, so I was going to do the template, but it would just show auto on everything. thanks for your help....

[nugzo]

Well guys, I've just about had it with this board...

I cannot prime blend for more than 30 minutes without an error.

I have tried 2 different sets of G.Skill 2x2GB F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK PC8500
As well as a set of 2x1 GB A-Data PC6400 that I know performs at 1066.
All 3 sets passed memtest but all fail at the 30-35 minute mark on prime blend.

Even stock clocks, cpu and ddr2....same story. This exact rig was 24hr prime stable on a 780i board @ 474x9.5 & 1:1

Current settings are as follows:


Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9.5
FSB Frequency: 453
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-906Mhz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advance 250
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 250
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advance 250
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 250
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: 5
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 60
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 5

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): 10
Write to Read Delay (S): 4
Write to Read Delay (D): 5
Read to Read Delay (S): 6
Read to Read Delay (D): 6
Write to Write Delay (S): 5
Write to Write Delay (D): 6

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: 16
Read to PRE Delay: 6
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
All PRE to ACT Delay: 6
All PRE to REF Delay: 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.350
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.45
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): +60
CPU GTL Reference (1): +10
CPU GTL Reference (2): +60
CPU GTL Reference (3): +10
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9.5
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled


Any help would be appreciated it. I've got some good advice here on the forum tweaking the board, but so far not much success =/
Starting to think it's faulty...or I'm insane.

Thanks! :)

Most 45nm seem to like negative #'s for GTL. Try:
CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1):-40mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3):-40mv

I know some have good results with your current settings but i mostly see -'s for 45nm and +'s for 65nm.

[Codeman05]

thanks Nugzo I'll get that a shot.

[nugzo]

thanks Nugzo I'll get that a shot.

If that doesnt work for you, try adjusting 1 and 3 in 10mv increments. I know its time consuming but thats what you gotta do. My sweet spot for this 9650 is +10 -45 +10 -45.

[SiGfever]

Which gskills? I ordered these (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231216) last week. should be here tomorrow

I think that he got these...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231194

[CryptiK]

Nice work. Its crazy though having to push our memory so hard (600+Mhz) to break 10k on theses intel chipsets. I miss hitting 11k+ with nforce @ 400-450mhz. I never even tried anything any higher than link sync. I wonder what 600+mhz would have done. I think i'll order another SIIF and see. I miss SLI and playing everest.

Thanks. Yes, the P45 doesn't produce as high a numbers in everest as chipsets like the 680i, but the superior Everest read & latency performance of the nvidia chipsets does not translate to faster SPI32M times. Clock for clock in SPI32M, the P45 is faster, so is the P35/X38/X48.


Looks like the P45 more than held its own in the memory performance comparison with the X48. Interesting results, and not what I would have expected given what people have previously reported.

Nice!

Thanks mate, I had to really push the board hard to do that, the boards MCH was as tight as it could go, the only way I could get better performance is to increase vdimm and tighten the ram timings, oh and if Asus had made pull-ins that actually work instead of being useless, perhaps I could improve on it a little.

However the X48 was doing that with relative ease, and had more in it for sure, eva just didn't have the time to fully optimize.


now thats impressive! :shocked: .. thanks for all your testing and information about that!
... but 1.45vNB isn't that good :eek:
Big differences when SRC/DRT is disabled?

Thanks. Yes, SRC/DRT makes a very noticeable improvement, I would really recommend enabling them. Also Clock Twister on 'stronger' drops the latency significantly and gives a small bandwidth boost. 1.45vNB is pushing hard, I had it up to 1.49v with other testing and the NB was getting really hot.


Have any of you guys played with the NB GTL Ref ??
I added +20mV to mine today and it has allowed me to lower my VFSB and VNB by a HUGE amount, with a Q9650.
If i put it back to Auto, with lower values for those two settings, the machine will BSOD.
Give it a try and post results here :)

I have had a brief play with it, and got the best results leaving it on auto, much to my displeasure. However now I using different ram/chipset settings I will have another go.


Well guys, I've just about had it with this board...

I cannot prime blend for more than 30 minutes without an error.

I have tried 2 different sets of G.Skill 2x2GB F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK PC8500
As well as a set of 2x1 GB A-Data PC6400 that I know performs at 1066.
All 3 sets passed memtest but all fail at the 30-35 minute mark on prime blend.

Even stock clocks, cpu and ddr2....same story. This exact rig was 24hr prime stable on a 780i board @ 474x9.5 & 1:1


Unless you have a dodgey board, perhaps your rams are having compatibility problems. Do you have any others, or can you even borrow a kit from a mate and try them? It should not be unstable at 453 FSB 1:1, I can get my board stable at 534 FSB 1:1 and higher, so the 'average board' can do that no problem.

Try different ram, if still a no go, perhaps swap the board.

[nugzo]

I think that he got these...http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231194

I picked those up last week. I couldn't get them stable higher than 1100ish. i didn't try long. Maybe cryptik can share some timings and voltages if he gets his running any better.

[Codeman05]

Unless you have a dodgey board, perhaps your rams are having compatibility problems. Do you have any others, or can you even borrow a kit from a mate and try them? It should not be unstable at 453 FSB 1:1, I can get my board stable at 534 FSB 1:1 and higher, so the 'average board' can do that no problem.

Try different ram, if still a no go, perhaps swap the board.

Actually tried 2 other sets. One was the same brand and model, just a seperate pair. The other set I tried was a different manufacture all together.

I will play more with the GTL's and see if I can find a sweet spot.
Otherwise I'll see if I can borrow a bud's 780i and try it out again.
Gonna be a long night :o

[SiGfever]

I picked those up last week. I couldn't get them stable higher than 1100ish. i didn't try long. Maybe cryptik can share some timings and voltages if he gets his running any better.

I have these running at 1122Mhz now, hoping for better out of the 8800's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166

[Robilar]

Quick question then regarding this board.

I currently have a P5E Deluxe (X48) a set of 2x2 GB OCZ reapers (pc2-8500) and just ordered a Q9650.

Would the maximus II formula provide higher stable overclocks than the Asus X48 board (on air)?

[CryptiK]

That'd be Grnfinger with thoe G.Skill PI ram, I run Team & CellShock kits. However it seems ~1150 is the average max of those sticks, they are binning the PSC IC's very carefully so you really get what you pay for with very little overclocking headroom, the 9600's are the way to go if you want 1200+ out of the G.Skill PI series.

[Codeman05]

Most 45nm seem to like negative #'s for GTL. Try:
CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1):-40mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3):-40mv

I know some have good results with your current settings but i mostly see -'s for 45nm and +'s for 65nm.

Da** that might have been it, 2 hours blend so far at 463x9.5 1:1 and running...beats my previous best by 1.5hrs and that was with lower clocks :up:
I'll let it wrap up over night and see what happens :D If all is well I can drop the multi and start to have some fun.

Thanks again for the advice all.

[nugzo]

Da** that might have been it, 2 hours blend so far at 463x9.5 1:1 and running...beats my previous best by 1.5hrs and that was with lower clocks :up:
I'll let it wrap up over night and see what happens :D If all is well I can drop the multi and start to have some fun.

Thanks again for the advice all.

Great! Lets go for 475!! 4512mhz is next for you! If you stay where you are, You may be able to drop your vcore and or vFSB some now that GTL's are a little more in line.

[CryptiK]

Every CPU behaves differently, and the GTL Refs required also change when you change FSB and vFSB. You do run really high vFSB so it would be a fair guess that is why you require negative GTL Refs. Glad to hear you are making progress.


New PB bandwidth and latency for 540 FSB:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/540FSB648MHz.jpg

[nugzo]

New PB bandwidth and latency for 540 FSB:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/540FSB648MHz.jpg

Awesome. Any 4gb (2x2) that you know of that'll clock that high?

[CryptiK]

Yep, G.Skill PC-9600 PI will do it, and higher. They are the best kit on the market at the moment IMO.

[bito]

If that doesnt work for you, try adjusting 1 and 3 in 10mv increments. I know its time consuming but thats what you gotta do. My sweet spot for this 9650 is +10 -45 +10 -45.

nugzo,
Thanks for sharing your GTL's :)
Do you have a complete template to share ?

[Grnfinger]

Which gskills? I ordered these (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231216) last week. should be here tomorrow

I have the 8800's.
Seems there not a stellar kit, even running at stock I cant get them to pass memtest. Take it up to 2.0 volts and most of the errors are gone.
Was hoping to get a decent kit, guess not. Going Dominators I think if this kit needs to be rma'd

[RobinL]

I have the 8800's.
Seems there not a stellar kit, even running at stock I cant get them to pass memtest. Take it up to 2.0 volts and most of the errors are gone.
Was hoping to get a decent kit, guess not. Going Dominators I think if this kit needs to be rma'd

And i have the G.skill 9600`s :rolleyes:

[CryptiK]

Post some overclocks if you get the chance, I have seen the 9600 kit do 675 MHz+ at almost stock volts. The IC's that dont make the grade for use in the 9600 sticks are used for the 8800 sticks, so the chance the 8800's will overclock much is slim to none, there is a thread about them here and no one really got anything special out of them, as many had trouble even running them at stock speeds. The 9600's are definitely the way to go, they far outclass the Dominators or any other 2 x 2GB kit for that matter.

[Grnfinger]

Post some overclocks if you get the chance, I have seen the 9600 kit do 675 MHz+ at almost stock volts. The IC's that dont make the grade for use in the 9600 sticks are used for the 8800 sticks, so the chance the 8800's will overclock much is slim to none, there is a thread about them here and no one really got anything special out of them, as many had trouble even running them at stock speeds. The 9600's are definitely the way to go, they far outclass the Dominators or any other 2 x 2GB kit for that matter.

That would explain my issues, cant run them at stock even.
I'd love to grab a set of 9600's but damn there 375 plus tax/shipping in Canada 400+ is a little much for ram imo.

Going to try to rma them in hopes of a better kit.

[e.v.o]

How about your "Part Number" and "Made in"-tag and CPU-Z screen?
On mine i read:
"PCB made in China" (on the upper left of the board) and Part No.: "90-MIB530-G0EAY00Z" (on the package). There is also a "90-MIB530-G0UAY00Z"
It's a Intel NB Rev. A2 and 1.02G Revision from Asus

[grifonemoloch]

Yep, G.Skill PC-9600 PI will do it, and higher. They are the best kit on the market at the moment IMO.

And a kit of them is on the road toward my home together with an E8600 ;)
I'm too impatient to get them!

[cokebeast]

Nice mobo, my next purchase.

offtopic: OP never updated his post as he said he would =)

[Armored_Kech1]

I nearly purchased this board but where I live it was the same price as the Rampage Formula so I naturally went for the X48 board. My friend got the M2F and to my surprise it behaves/performs extremely similar (kickass).

[WhiteFireDragon]

i posted this on another M2F thread but was unanswered, so i figured this thread is bigger and is more apporpriate. i read a few posts on this mobo's cooling, but i still need some clarifications

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/heatsinks.jpg

1) these circular foam pads (circled in green) next to the NB screw post can be taken off to lower the heatpipe assemble in order for the NB to fit more secure? can the circular foam pads on the mosfet sinks also be taken off also?
2) can the 4 squared rubber pads (boxed in blue) on the NB's sink be taken off to also lower the whole assembly closer to the NB chip?
3) the screw posts circled in red are missing the circular foam posts that the NB and SB post has. is anyone else missing these too or is it just my board? would i need them?
4) at area 4, should there be a big thermal pad similar to the right of the NB or am i missing it?
5) in addition to all this, add some washers to the bottom of the board for the NB screws right? i don't get how adding these washers would tighten up NB contact if the screws can still be screwed in all the way with these washers.

[Grnfinger]

i posted this on another M2F thread but was unanswered, so i figured this thread is bigger and is more apporpriate. i read a few posts on this mobo's cooling, but i still need some clarifications


1) these circular foam pads (circled in green) next to the NB screw post can be taken off to lower the heatpipe assemble in order for the NB to fit more secure? can the circular foam pads on the mosfet sinks also be taken off also?
2) can the 4 squared rubber pads (boxed in blue) on the NB's sink be taken off to also lower the whole assembly closer to the NB chip?
3) the screw posts circled in red are missing the circular foam posts that the NB and SB post has. is anyone else missing these too or is it just my board? would i need them?
4) at area 4, should there be a big thermal pad similar to the right of the NB or am i missing it?
5) in addition to all this, add some washers to the bottom of the board for the NB screws right? i don't get how adding these washers would tighten up NB contact if the screws can still be screwed in all the way with these washers.

I dont visit the other thread, running 2 threads imo is a bad idea as information gets lost as in your case.


Question 1,
I would leave them on, I left mine on to avoid creating a short on the mobo.

2.. Yes

3.. My board was missing them I used some nylon washers to avoid a short, paranoid perhaps but better safe than RMA.

4.. Excellent question I was "missing" one as well so cannot say for sure if one is required

5.. I did not add any washers to the back but I'm running a MCW30 on the NB so my temps are excellent, I would think the reason behind this is to create increased pressure for better contact, maybe reseat the block and then check for good contact. If your sastified then I would not bother with them

[humeyboy]

Hi, 1st ever Intel based Mobo for myself (I have recently used P45's for customers but not high end and no OC)

Im not a n00b but was always AMD then Intel on Nvidia Mobo's but the 680I and 780I are crap (owned both).

I was reading this thread for months and was aware I would need remount the Heatpipes (something I always do anyhow).

I read in the OCUK Stores Comment Section that the newer MFII Mobos were running cooler as if Asus has revised their mounting/fitting method.

I got my new Mobo, it runs so cool, the NB and SB are cooler than any Mobo I have owned and thats now at 1600FSB (400), cant remember what it was at stock 1333SFSB (333)


http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/1524/captureky5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



All I did was tighten the screws really tight with a small driver when it was out the box new (not a big driver that I could tighten too much due to grip/leverage) but they moved a good few half turn each time I went round in sequence.

I obv have a well contacting Heatpipe but will redo it myself in week(s) to come.

[nugzo]

i posted this on another M2F thread but was unanswered, so i figured this thread is bigger and is more apporpriate. i read a few posts on this mobo's cooling, but i still need some clarifications

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/heatsinks.jpg

1) these circular foam pads (circled in green) next to the NB screw post can be taken off to lower the heatpipe assemble in order for the NB to fit more secure? can the circular foam pads on the mosfet sinks also be taken off also?
2) can the 4 squared rubber pads (boxed in blue) on the NB's sink be taken off to also lower the whole assembly closer to the NB chip?
3) the screw posts circled in red are missing the circular foam posts that the NB and SB post has. is anyone else missing these too or is it just my board? would i need them?
4) at area 4, should there be a big thermal pad similar to the right of the NB or am i missing it?
5) in addition to all this, add some washers to the bottom of the board for the NB screws right? i don't get how adding these washers would tighten up NB contact if the screws can still be screwed in all the way with these washers.

If you were using nForce i would defiantly be as worried as you are about contact and temps. Intel chipsets do not produce a whole lot of heat. normally just replacing the stock NB and SB TIM with Arctic Silver Ceramic is all you need. I would leave the mosfet thermal pads as they are as long as you can see good indention for each contact point. Unlike nForce most intel chips do not even have a fan. All nvidias do/should, and they still run 60-80c. Just make sure the pipes are straight, good TIM, tighten the screws well and you should be just fine.

[cokebeast]

I don't know if I should buy this board or Rampage.

[SiGfever]

I don't know if I should buy this board or Rampage.

What processor will you be using?

[Leeghoofd]

Think he got an e8300 so even P5Q Dlx or GB 45 UD3P will be more than sufficient for 4ghz ops, no need to cash out in my opinion...

[SiGfever]

Think he got an e8300 so even P5Q Dlx or GB 45 UD3P will be more than sufficient for 4ghz ops, no need to cash out in my opinion...
I agree, that board seems to do very well.

[cokebeast]

Sorry,

I didn't specify :) I have a P5N-D on my E8300 right now, but I would like to purchase a board that could O.C. a beast like the QX9650.

So yeah, Rampage a go go, or anything better?

[Starage]

I would wait for the new intel chip to come out and ddr3 kits with 3 sticks, rather than getting the rampage. I like my board very much and find the price of ddr2 way better than ddr3 is. Also the rampage is way more money and nothing really better on the rampage as to the maximus II formula.

[cokebeast]

I would wait for the new intel chip to come out and ddr3 kits with 3 sticks, rather than getting the rampage. I like my board very much and find the price of ddr2 way better than ddr3 is. Also the rampage is way more money and nothing really better on the rampage as to the maximus II formula.
Great info, thanks bro :up:

[psygnosi]

I also had a rampage formula and it was great when I had it. I have no complaints with that board but for some reason I seem to be much happier with my Maximus II Formula. Running at 4.0Ghz(with 8 Gig of ram) probably has something to do with it as well. My 2 cents.

:D

[WhiteFireDragon]

for dual channel memory OC'ing on this M2F, does it matter if they are placed in either the blue or white slots? the manual says the it's probably better to OC in the white slots, but i don't get how it would matter

[Darknezz]

Well today i got my EK - NB ASUS HP - Acetal for the M2F I will be put it on some time next week. I have Attach some pics of it.. :)

[Grnfinger]

for dual channel memory OC'ing on this M2F, does it matter if they are placed in either the blue or white slots? the manual says the it's probably better to OC in the white slots, but i don't get how it would matter

White or blue I find there is no difference.
I have 4 kits of 8500 and they dont perform any better in the white

[screwtech02]

Forgot to ask, has Asus sorted out the PCI-E deal??? Or should i say setting it over 101 it still will boot/post???

[airpress]

Hi all.

I have a question.
Can anyone help me finding the cpu vcore measure point on the maximus II formula?

Thx.

[WhiteFireDragon]

Well today i got my EK - NB ASUS HP - Acetal for the M2F I will be put it on some time next week. I have Attach some pics of it.. :)

please also post pics of how it looks like on you M2F, thanks!

[seban]

Hi,

Will Thermalright Extreme fit without any bending, disassembling on M2F.

And same question about SunBeam / Tuniq Core Contact Freezer.

If you had another chance which board you would choose for q9550 M2F or Rampage?

Thanks for all input I have hard choice to make here.

[Grnfinger]

Hi,

Will Thermalright Extreme fit without any bending, disassembling on M2F.

And same question about SunBeam / Tuniq Core Contact Freezer.

If you had another chance which board you would choose for q9550 M2F or Rampage?

Thanks for all input I have hard choice to make here.

Cryptix proved a few pages back that Rampage offers little if anything at all.
P45 will run cooler than X48 and comparing the 2 bios MIIF offers more fine tuning.
I water cool so cannot comment on air coolers, I'm sure someone will be along shortly to answer your cooling questions.

[al-]

Hi,

Will Thermalright Extreme fit without any bending, disassembling on M2F.

And same question about SunBeam / Tuniq Core Contact Freezer.

If you had another chance which board you would choose for q9550 M2F or Rampage?

Thanks for all input I have hard choice to make here.

The Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme fits, but depending on the RAM, you may not be able to utilize all 4 slots (if installed horozontally)-


http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/bubba9191/asus1f.jpg

[CryptiK]

TRUE fits fine mounted vertically, and does not obstruct any ram slots if vertical either. I cant answer about the other coolers you mentioned.

[Darknezz]

please also post pics of how it looks like on you M2F, thanks!



I will be sure too do that..

[nugzo]

The Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme fits, but depending on the RAM, you may not be able to utilize all 4 slots (if installed horozontally)-


http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/bubba9191/asus1f.jpg

Do not mount this way if all possible. Weight pulls the true down some when mounted like that. I always noticed 2 cores sometimes 10c+ hotter than the other 2 during load. If i lift up on it a little temps even out. Tried this on 2 lapped cpus and the regular true and black true. Like cryp says it will work vertical. I used it vertical with 120x38mm fans and ram still fits. When i mount vertical all cores are within 3c loaded.

[al-]

Do not mount this way if all possible. Weight pulls the true down some when mounted like that. I always noticed 2 cores sometimes 10c+ hotter than the other 2 during load. If i lift up on it a little temps even out. Tried this on 2 lapped cpus and the regular true and black true. Like cryp says it will work vertical. I used it vertical with 120x38mm fans and ram still fits. When i mount vertical all cores are within 3c loaded.

--My temps run fine...both cores are identical temperatures, an Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale only has 2 cores dude--

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/bubba9191/temps.jpg

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/bubba9191/asus1f.jpg

[seban]

Thank you all guys for input.

I know now that TRUE will fit any direction - one more thing in thread DFI P45 DK Plus there is photo of True mounted on 45` degree angle to board - is it possible on every board?

http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/_200806/th_20080624235952_dfi0039y9.jpg (http://www.pctunerup.com/up/image.php?src=_200806/20080624235952_dfi0039y9.jpg)
(photo taken from DK thread on XS hope no body do not mind)

I also know that I want p45 board now decision is between M2F or Gigabyte EP45-UD3P - any comments on this?

My goal is to reach 4ghz on q9550 E0 for 24/7.

Cheers

[64dragon]

Thank you all guys for input.

I know now that TRUE will fit any direction - one more thing in thread DFI P45 DK Plus there is photo of True mounted on 45` degree angle to board - is it possible on every board?

http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/_200806/th_20080624235952_dfi0039y9.jpg (http://www.pctunerup.com/up/image.php?src=_200806/20080624235952_dfi0039y9.jpg)
(photo taken from DK thread on XS hope no body do not mind)

I also know that I want p45 board now decision is between M2F or Gigabyte EP45-UD3P - any comments on this?

My goal is to reach 4ghz on q9550 E0 for 24/7.

Cheers

thats not a TRUE, i think is a Xigmatek (however its spelled) but it could just be the fan that is.

[seban]

thats not a TRUE, i think is a Xigmatek (however its spelled) but it could just be the fan that is.

LOL that is true now when I took a closer look - you are right it is not TRUE at all...

[Teppo]

Hi, I am looking to get this overclocked to 3.6ghz, could some body give me some bios settings to achieve this please, my current settings are pretty much al Auto.

Thank you,

System
System
Vista Ultimate 64
Antec Twelve Hundred Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000GLFS 300GB 10000 RPM SATA
ASUS Maximus II Formula
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz co
ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED
DIAMOND Radeon HD 4870 1GB
CORSAIR Dominator 4GB (4 x 1GB) DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro Series
Logitech G9 Laser Gaming Mouse
Razer Lycosa Gaming Keyboard
SAMSUNG T240 24" 5ms HDMI Widescreen
-------------------------------------------------------
Extreme Tweaker
AI Overclock Tuner: Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting: Auto
FSB Frequency: 333
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-Mhz 1066

DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
DRAM Read Training: Auto
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Auto
Ai Transaction Booster: Auto


PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: Auto
FSB Termination Voltage: Auto
DRAM Voltage: 2.19
North Bridge Voltage: Auto
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: Auto
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: Auto

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto



Load-Line Calibration: Auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Auto

[Grnfinger]

Hi, I am looking to get this overclocked to 3.6ghz, could some body give me some bios settings to achieve this please, my current settings are pretty much al Auto.

Thank you,



What have you tried so far?
There are many templates in this thread, you should be able to adapt one for your setup.
Please take the time to read the thread you will benifit from the investment

[Teppo]

What have you tried so far?
There are many templates in this thread, you should be able to adapt one for your setup.
Please take the time to read the thread you will benifit from the investment

Ok I found this template from ATLNY, his specs are similiar to mine, except he has 4gb of pc6400 and I have 4gb of pc 8500, I set everything according to his and I could not boot. I know before I started changing the settings I had my DRAM Freq set at 1066 and when I made some changes it went to 1357, I can only assume this is my problem, I should have had the DRAM Freq set to auto before I started? Also I may need to adjust the DRAM Voltage different than his? I am really only looking to go 3.6ghz if that helps at all?

His specs
Spec:
E8400 @ 4005 MHz @ 1.34v
Maximus II , P45 chipset
GeForce 9600GT
Corsair XMS2 DHX DDR2PC6400 (4 GB)
(2) Seagate 320 RAID 0
PS. Corsair VX550W
LIAN LI PC-60BPLUSII
Windows Vista Ultimate x64
Cooling: Swiftech H20-220 Apex Ultra

His template

Asus Maximus Formula II Bios 0901
Corsair XMS2 DHX DDR2PC6400 (4 GB)
Corsair VX550W 550W
Cpu E84000

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 424
CPU Clock Skew: auto
NB Clock Skew: auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Freq: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto

Write to PRE Delay : auto
Read to PRE Delay : auto
PRE to PRE Delay : auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Dram Read Training : Auto
MEM OC Charger : auto
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : auto
PCIE Freq: 100

CPU volt:1.32500
CPU PLL Voltage: auto
NB Voltage: auto
DRAM Voltage: 2.10475v
FSB Termination Voltage: auto
SB Voltage: auto
SB 1.5 Voltage: auto

CPU GTL Reference 0 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 2 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

Load-Line Calibration: enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
__________________

My specs
System
Vista Ultimate 64
Antec Twelve Hundred Black ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000GLFS 300GB 10000 RPM SATA
ASUS Maximus II Formula
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz co
ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED
DIAMOND Radeon HD 4870 1GB
CORSAIR Dominator 4GB (4 x 1GB) DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro Series
Logitech G9 Laser Gaming Mouse
Razer Lycosa Gaming Keyboard
SAMSUNG T240 24" 5ms HDMI Widescreen


Mine after settings

Asus Maximus Formula II Bios 0901

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 424
CPU Clock Skew: auto
NB Clock Skew: auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Freq: DDR2 1357mhz
DRAM Timing Control:
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto

Write to PRE Delay : auto
Read to PRE Delay : auto
PRE to PRE Delay : auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Dram Read Training : Auto
MEM OC Charger : auto
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : auto
PCIE Freq: 100

CPU volt:1.32500
CPU PLL Voltage: auto
NB Voltage: auto
DRAM Voltage: 2.10475v
FSB Termination Voltage: auto
SB Voltage: auto
SB 1.5 Voltage: auto

CPU GTL Reference 0 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 2 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

Load-Line Calibration: enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
__________________

[Grnfinger]

The dram freq is to high, use the up down arrows to adjust, you can use the 333 strap or 400 to see whats available for you. 848MHz or 1020MHz should be ok for you.
1020 will allow for better PL but running 1:1 4-4-4-12 PL10 if your ram will do cas4 would give just about = performance otherwise run 1020MHz PL8

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1021
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Normal
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : Enabled
MEM OC Charger : Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 101

And set what ever volts your cpu needs after this
4x1GB sticks will be harder on the NB than 2x2GBs so you might have to up the NB a few notches to get everything stable

[Teppo]

@Grnfinger

Ok I set everything that you suggested, I set the Dram freq at 1020, I set the vcore at 1.312 and the dram voltage is at 1.9000 (could be off a little, but its 1.9 something). I think something is off, I have not run any stress tests yet, but it booted and seems ok, but if you look at the cpuz image it shows the core speed at 2550mhz and it jumps up to 3825 every once in a while, I assume that is not correct?

http://teppoonline.net/images/cpuz.png http://teppoonline.net/images/temps.png



here is what my settings look like,

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1021
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Normal
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : Enabled
MEM OC Charger : Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 101

CPU volt:1.32500
CPU PLL Voltage: auto
NB Voltage: auto
DRAM Voltage: 1.90600v
FSB Termination Voltage: auto
SB Voltage: auto
SB 1.5 Voltage: auto

CPU GTL Reference 0 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 2 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

Load-Line Calibration: enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[skate2snow]

Disable intel speed step. Thats a way to save power.. it downgrades the CPU when not in use... goes back up when you use it..

[Teppo]

Disable intel speed step. Thats a way to save power.. it downgrades the CPU when not in use... goes back up when you use it..


Ok thanks, I was looking in bios and it said it was at 3.8ghz, so this makes sense now. It reads correct now.

http://teppoonline.net/images/cpuz1.jpg

[Teppo]

I am running Prime95 now, its has been going for about 30 minutes, my NB temps are anywhere from 48-52 C. is this ok and how long do I need to run Prime 95 to consider it stable?

[nugzo]

I am running Prime95 now, its has been going for about 30 minutes, my NB temps are anywhere from 48-52 C. is this ok and how long do I need to run Prime 95 to consider it stable?

Those temps are fine. Most people run prime for 8hrs blend and 8hrs Small fft. Thats what i do. I also loop 3dmark06 about 10 times at highest res and AA and AF on.

[lha]

I might buy this mobo, but im not sure if the Tuniq Tower 120 mm will fit to the mobo?
Those passive "coolers" look pretty big.

E: can this board eat DDR2 and DDR3 ?

[Grnfinger]

I am running Prime95 now, its has been going for about 30 minutes, my NB temps are anywhere from 48-52 C. is this ok and how long do I need to run Prime 95 to consider it stable?

looks good, keep us posted on your progress

[hoskic]

Hi guys, Can somebody advise me with bios settings for q6600 on this board, memory is 2x2GB OCZ DDR2 PC2-8000 ReaperX HP.

thnx

[Teppo]

@ Grnfinger

Ok I ran Prime95 for a total of 14hrs, 8hrs on blend and 6hrs Small fft and every test passed, was that long enough to run? I also ran 3dmark 06 on high resolution and with AA on high looped to run each test 8 times without any problems, does this mean it is a stable overclock? or do I need to do some more testing? Is my dram freq (510mhz) seem to be running at the proper speed?

http://teppoonline.net/images/stats.jpg

[Grnfinger]

I would say your stable :bounces:

Nice job :up:

[KURTZ]

hi guys, just a little shot for me ... completely on air w/stock cooler ... 8600 batched 435 @ VID ...

http://www.pctunerup.com/up/results/_200811/th_20081102204727_4giga.JPG (http://www.pctunerup.com/up/image.php?src=_200811/20081102204727_4giga.JPG)

soon i'll return with some other (and better) tests ... i made this only cause i'm curious about my cpu ...

[Teppo]

I would say your stable :bounces:

Nice job :up:

I want to say than you for your help, I obviously am new to this and you helped out a great deal.

The dramfreq in cpuz is 510mhz, that is ok? Will the overclock hurt my cpu in any way?

Again thanks....

[EaglePC]

:welcome:Hi ma all confiused a newbie wants at least 3.8 on his new system can anyone help on oc this thing with your bios setting,and out of topic the video card thank you i like this forum

ASUS Maximus II Formula LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

EVGA 896-P3-1267-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 Superclocked Edition 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80569Q9550 - Retail

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM

ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - Retail

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF - Retail

[Grnfinger]

:welcome:Hi ma all confiused a newbie wants at least 3.8 on his new system can anyone help on oc this thing with your bios setting,and out of topic the video card thank you i like this forum

ASUS Maximus II Formula LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

EVGA 896-P3-1267-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 Superclocked Edition 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Yorkfield 2.83GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80569Q9550 - Retail

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM

ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - Retail

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF - Retail

If you take the time to look up a few post, you will find what you need.

[KURTZ]

guys, just a question: how i can copy my bios settings like the other users? thx

[SiGfever]

guys, just a question: how i can copy my bios settings like the other users? thx

Use this template, just replace my numbers with yours.

[screwtech02]

Here is the lame a$$ reply i recieved from Asus "non" tech support reguarding the Pci-E frequency settings.....

"Unfortunately we here at asus tech support can not support Overclocking due to warranty issues. If you need advice or resolutions with problems while ovclocking the system you will need to check with the various overclocking web sites and forums as your best resource.

Asus Support Team"


This is a known issue.....

Weak......:shakes:

[Sem]

i am thinking of getting this board but i have a question

does the Marvell controller for the eSATA and PATA add its own boot screen when enabled like the Jmicron controller

[humeyboy]

i am thinking of getting this board but i have a question

does the Marvell controller for the eSATA and PATA add its own boot screen when enabled like the Jmicron controller

Yes and you can enable it or disable it AFAIK.

[Gunnz Akimbo]

This is the most ive had so far using the SpeedingHDD with 2x 150GB Velociraptors.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4797/myraid0bestresultshdtuncu4.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=myraid0bestresultshdtuncu4.jpg)http://img87.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/3254/myraid0bestresultshdtacnf1.th.jpg (http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=myraid0bestresultshdtacnf1.jpg)http://img362.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

[bito]

A few pics. of my MFII.....

First with my E8600.....
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/v5-aps/E86004500.jpg

Then Q9650.....
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/v5-aps/Q96504ghz.jpg

[DSL_PWR]

I have this board and it is awesome..

Maximus II Formula
SupremeFX X-Fi Audio Card
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650
Antec TPQ-850W
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) 4-4-4-12
BFG Nvidia 7950 GT Video Card (soon to upgrade to 9800 GTX SSC)
7 Drives total = 4.5TB's of storage space
Twin Dell 24's..
Thermaltake case and a few other goodies

Just upgraded from P5N E SLI board and Pentium Extreme 3.46Ghz and I am very happy that I did..

Found some excellent info on here and I just wanted to say thanks...

[hoskic]

Anybody with BIOS settings for q6600?

[KURTZ]

Use this template, just replace my numbers with yours.

thx mate, anyway, i've troubles with the strap 200 .. i can't boot with this strap ... i've tested my PC8000 Cells onto the 266 @ 1200 tRD8 (2.45 vDIMM & 1.45 vNB) and 400 @ 1300 (same voltages) but over the 200 strap nothing to do ... any tip?

[The Water Dog]

Hi everybody=) Got a little problem, i use Ocz Flex 9600 on M2F but they dont wont be stabil(boot) on 1200
with 5-5-5-15-45, 2,15v. Someone got some tips? I use server 2008, but in Xp i could boot with 1.9v

[BiTsCrEaM]

So the problem is only in Vista? I'd loosen those timings a bit, till it will boot, then drop the voltage as far as you can. Then start tightening things up again.

[The Water Dog]

i wonder if it is something with nb-volt :hm:
Thanks=)

[GeorgeVasil]

Some Results with the Gskill 8800PI.

The rams are prime stable 11h at 570Mhz..

I boot windows with errors at 580..

590 boot..but no windows.

I will burn in the memory for some days.I want to see if they will have better results.

btw nice numbers at everest for every day (2x2Gb perf)

(twister here is on auto) ..At 560 and moderate the read is ~9450mb/s

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5029/570qz2.th.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=570qz2.jpg)http://img408.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8851/570primemf0.th.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=570primemf0.jpg)http://img88.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

[Grnfinger]

Some Results with the Gskill 8800PI.

The rams are prime stable 11h at 570Mhz..

I boot windows with errors at 580..

590 boot..but no windows.

I will burn in the memory for some days.I want to see if they will have better results.

btw nice numbers at everest for every day (2x2Gb perf)

(twister here is on auto) ..At 560 and moderate the read is ~9450mb/s

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5029/570qz2.th.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=570qz2.jpg)http://img408.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8851/570primemf0.th.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=570primemf0.jpg)http://img88.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

mine were crap when I got them had to rma.
They wouldnt do 1066 at 2.2 volts without errors.
I hope I have better luck with new kit next week.


i wonder if it is something with nb-volt :hm:
Thanks=)

NB volts will need to be adjusted most likely.
You can also set your dram skew to advanced 350ps it will help to settle the ram down.
FYI OCZ and Asus dont really play nice

[GeorgeVasil]

mine were crap when I got them had to rma.
They wouldnt do 1066 at 2.2 volts without errors.
I hope I have better luck with new kit next week.


I cant say that i am not satisfied with 8800Pi.

I hoped that they will play 1200.

RMA is quite difficult for me..because it has a lot of cost to send them back to Dublin..(+ need a lot of time)..

I lost ~500Mb/s at R/W/C compared to my old D9's (running 1200)..so what??:p::D

[The Water Dog]

Grnfinger: thanks alot=) Is just try and failing....and suddenly it works....i hope:P
And one more thing...its good to have this forum when you are stuck with something=)

[BiTsCrEaM]

Yup, there's not a better knowledge base available than XS.

[SiGfever]

mine were crap when I got them had to rma.
They wouldnt do 1066 at 2.2 volts without errors.
I hope I have better luck with new kit next week.



NB volts will need to be adjusted most likely.
You can also set your dram skew to advanced 350ps it will help to settle the ram down.
FYI OCZ and Asus dont really play nice

Have you tried the 1403 bios that you linked to?

I have my new set of G.Skill 8800 2x2Gb but have not tried them in my rig yet. Here is my 8500 Everest, I think they still have more to give but I have not had time to work with them.

[Grnfinger]

Have you tried the 1403 bios that you linked to?

I have my new set of G.Skill 8800 2x2Gb but have not tried them in my rig yet. Here is my 8500 Everest, I think they still have more to give but I have not had time to work with them.

1403 bios is total crap
I tested the ram in 3 rigs and it failed on all of them so bios was not the culprit.
I like having a different platforms to test on P35, P45 and X38, I'm now torn between grabbing a Rampage wich is now in stock finally ( last one arrived doa) or the Gigabyte UD3 looks like alot of fun. I have to decide soon or they will ship out a Rampage....This will be my last purchase untill december then I will jump on the i7 wagon, I have been good all year and Santa owes me a favour :ROTF:

[SiGfever]

1403 bios is total crap
I tested the ram in 3 rigs and it failed on all of them so bios was not the culprit.
I like having a different platforms to test on P35, P45 and X38, I'm now torn between grabbing a Rampage wich is now in stock finally ( last one arrived doa) or the Gigabyte UD3 looks like alot of fun. I have to decide soon or they will ship out a Rampage....This will be my last purchase untill december then I will jump on the i7 wagon, I have been good all year and Santa owes me a favour :ROTF:

You might want to remove the link to it. I have been torn about getting a Rampage but think I will hold out for i7 after the prices drop. I also need another pump and two more Micro-Res so we will see how long I can be good. :shrug: :D

[Etihtsarom]

Hello,
My setup has been working fine but lately has become a slight bit unstable ( sudden reboot when doing some firefox functions). So I adjusted a bit and ran orthos stability test (small) and it only lasted about 4 hours. I included my settings, please let me know what I should adjust to attain stability again. Thanks for your inputs.

Clock 4420.3
Temp Idle 38
Temp Load 55
Orthos Stable 3 hr 40 min

Ai Overclock Tuner Manual
OC From CPU Level Up Auto
CPU Ratio Control Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting 8.5
FSB Frequency 520
CPU Clock Skew Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge 333
DRAM Frequency DDR2-1042MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 Auto

DRAM Timing Control Manual
1st Information 5-5-5-15-3-52-6-3
CAS# Latency 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time Auto
Write Recovery Time Auto
Read to Precharge Time Auto

2nd Information 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read to Write Delay (S/D) Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) Auto

3rd Information 14-5-1-6-6
Write to PRE Delay Auto
Read to PRE Delay Auto
PRE to PRE Delay Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay Auto

DRAM Static Read Control Disabled
Dram Read Training Disabled
MEM OC Charger Enabled
Ai Clock Twister Auto
Transaction Booster Manual

Common Performance Level 11

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Enabled

PCIE Frequency 100

CPU Voltage 1.41875
CPU-Z Core Voltage 1.408
CPU PLL Voltage 1.59275
FSB Termination Voltage 1.27225
DRAM Voltage 2.15775
North Bridge Voltage 1.48425
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 -40mV
CPU GTL Reference 2 Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 -40mV
North Bridge GTL Reference Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference Auto

CPU Configuration
C1E Support Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech Enabled
CPU TM Function Disabled
Execute Disable Bit Disabled

Load Line Calibration Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum Disabled

[Sem]

got my board today and its great
ive got my cpu stable but i seem to be having problems with my memory

my ideal set up will be

Q6600 @ 3.6 400x9 with ram at 1066MHz 5-5-5-15 with a PL of 7

everything is stable @ 400x9 with my ram at 800Mhz 1:1
but if i try 1066 it fails linpack x64 and i get random blue screens with "Bad_Pool_Caller" being the main culprit and that indicates a memory problem

my ram is 2GB Corsair Dominator 8500 5-5-5-15

tried my NB volts up to 1.55 with my FSB Termination Voltage @ 1.36

think i need to up my NB volts? i hope not as im already not comfortable with 1.55 or maybe drop PL down to 8 or 9? but then i lose alot of performance

or could it be my ram and not the NB?

personally i dont think it is as it worked fine at 1066 on my DFI but im not going to rule it out yet

[Darknezz]

Well i got the EK - NB ASUS HP mounted and fits get keeps the nb nice and cool fulload the nb gets about 42c defualt its about 33c..

[KURTZ]

@Dark: 42° full load but how many volts?

[Darknezz]

@Dark: 42° full load but how many volts?


At 1.37 volt but i am running with 2x2Gb and 2x1Gb so 6Gb i can't get the mobo run with freezeing if i lower the nb volt..

[CryptiK]

Hello,
My setup has been working fine but lately has become a slight bit unstable ( sudden reboot when doing some firefox functions). So I adjusted a bit and ran orthos stability test (small) and it only lasted about 4 hours. I included my settings, please let me know what I should adjust to attain stability again. Thanks for your inputs.

Clock 4420.3
Temp Idle 38
Temp Load 55
Orthos Stable 3 hr 40 min

Ai Overclock Tuner Manual
OC From CPU Level Up Auto
CPU Ratio Control Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting 8.5
FSB Frequency 520
CPU Clock Skew Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge 333
DRAM Frequency DDR2-1042MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 Auto

DRAM Timing Control Manual
1st Information 5-5-5-15-3-52-6-3
CAS# Latency 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time Auto
Write Recovery Time Auto
Read to Precharge Time Auto

2nd Information 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read to Write Delay (S/D) Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) Auto

3rd Information 14-5-1-6-6
Write to PRE Delay Auto
Read to PRE Delay Auto
PRE to PRE Delay Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay Auto

DRAM Static Read Control Disabled
Dram Read Training Disabled
MEM OC Charger Enabled
Ai Clock Twister Auto
Transaction Booster Manual

Common Performance Level 11

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Enabled

PCIE Frequency 100

CPU Voltage 1.41875
CPU-Z Core Voltage 1.408
CPU PLL Voltage 1.59275
FSB Termination Voltage 1.27225
DRAM Voltage 2.15775
North Bridge Voltage 1.48425
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 -40mV
CPU GTL Reference 2 Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 -40mV
North Bridge GTL Reference Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference Auto

CPU Configuration
C1E Support Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech Enabled
CPU TM Function Disabled
Execute Disable Bit Disabled

Load Line Calibration Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum Disabled

Sounds like perhaps your cpu is through its burn in phase, bump up vcore a notch or two.


got my board today and its great
ive got my cpu stable but i seem to be having problems with my memory

my ideal set up will be

Q6600 @ 3.6 400x9 with ram at 1066MHz 5-5-5-15 with a PL of 7

everything is stable @ 400x9 with my ram at 800Mhz 1:1
but if i try 1066 it fails linpack x64 and i get random blue screens with "Bad_Pool_Caller" being the main culprit and that indicates a memory problem

my ram is 2GB Corsair Dominator 8500 5-5-5-15

tried my NB volts up to 1.55 with my FSB Termination Voltage @ 1.36

think i need to up my NB volts? i hope not as im already not comfortable with 1.55 or maybe drop PL down to 8 or 9? but then i lose alot of performance

or could it be my ram and not the NB?

personally i dont think it is as it worked fine at 1066 on my DFI but im not going to rule it out yet

You may need to increase vdimm to get stable. 1.55 vNB should be more than enough, in fact I'd say it's excessive, try 1.40 vNB in conjunction with raising vdimm.

[GaBBa-Gandalf]

Hi guys,

the bios is offical out now: http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

I got my new CPU E8600 - Stepping Q820A598:

my 24/7 Setting:

http://xs-base.xail.net/Pictures/CPU/Intel/E8600/klein/4000MHz_prime_117V.JPG (http://xs-base.xail.net/Pictures/CPU/Intel/E8600/4000MHz_prime_117V.JPG)


best tested superpi yet:
*push* (http://pic.sysprofile.de/images/m8v58511.jpg)

BIOS:

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting: 10
FSB Frequency: 400
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 266 MHz
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1003MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: auto
DRAM Timing Control: auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
DRAM Read Training: Disable
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 9
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.1225
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.1000
DRAM Voltage: 1,95900
North Bridge Voltage: 1.11325
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1):-30mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3):-30mv
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto


CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 10
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

But i dont understand one thing:
At 500MHz FSB the CPU / System isnt stable. Also with my old E8500...And it needs extreme high vNB.

BUT my old E6600 was running over 500 MHz FSB with less vNB !

Maybe the board doesnt like the new CPUs (45nm)?!
The 65nm CPU goes higher with the FSB...

@ CryptiK / all

which VTT / vNB do u need to run over 500MHz FSB?

[humeyboy]

What bios ?

Its still 1307 I thought you were meaning a new bios that aint Nuked like 1403 was up. :confused:

[GaBBa-Gandalf]

i mean the bios 1403

ps new run:


http://xs-base.xail.net/Pictures/CPU/Intel/E8600/klein/4500MHz_prime_135V.JPG (http://xs-base.xail.net/Pictures/CPU/Intel/E8600/4500MHz_prime_135V.JPG)

[humeyboy]

I cant see the bios on the Asus site, I only get to the Drop down Menu from your link.

[genec57]

The most recent bios I see on the Asus site is 1307.

[Grnfinger]

1307 is the most recent stable bios
1403 is crap and was removed from Asus site...I have it linked in my sig for thoes who wish to try it ( I have had some requests so thats why its there )
I personally would would use 1307 its seems to be the best to date...1403 offerd nothing, pull-ins still do not work, same crappy tref value, and a nice port hang on boot up :up:
One would think that a company like Asus could put alittle more effort in bios support for the ROG line of boards

[humeyboy]

Yes, know all that about 1403, but peep above seems to claim its new up on the Asus site today lol.

[SiGfever]

1307 is the most recent stable bios
1403 is crap and was removed from Asus site...I have it linked in my sig for thoes who wish to try it ( I have had some requests so thats why its there )
I personally would would use 1307 its seems to be the best to date...1403 offerd nothing, pull-ins still do not work, same crappy tref value, and a nice port hang on boot up :up:
One would think that a company like Asus could put alittle more effort in bios support for the ROG line of boards
They had better start listening before a lot of people jump ship.

[Grnfinger]

They had better start listening before a lot of people jump ship.

I agree, currently looking at the Giga UD3, not sure yet. Dont want to grab the flavour of the week board if you know what I mean.
Been a loyal Asus customer since my Nforce4/FX-60 days, would recommend Asus to anyone, they offer high end mid priced and budget all back'd buy a solid reputation. Lately however it seems there dragging there arse on support.

[Etihtsarom]

I agree, currently looking at the Giga UD3, not sure yet. Dont want to grab the flavour of the week board if you know what I mean.
Been a loyal Asus customer since my Nforce4/FX-60 days, would recommend Asus to anyone, they offer high end mid priced and budget all back'd buy a solid reputation. Lately however it seems there dragging there arse on support.

Agreed here. I can comprehend that their support lags because their product lines are so extensive and thus expenses are high, but really, it's not an excuse.

[SiGfever]

Agreed here. I can comprehend that their support lags because their product lines are so extensive and thus expenses are high, but really, it's not an excuse.

Very true, if it takes limiting the number of boards to offer better support then so be it.

Edit:

Still inching it up...

[Guacamole]

Hey guys I just got an E0 Q9550 and I used the settings that SIGfever posted in the other MFII thread and they work for 4.0 but I am trying to get my CPU up to 4.1 maybe 4.2 but I am having a bunch of trouble once I hit about 482 or so no stability does anyone have settings for a Q9550 OC around 4.1 or 4.2?? Any help would be greatly appreciated... I was thinking maybe 522 FSB but I can't seem to get the memory to cooperate...

[humeyboy]

Hey guys I just got an E0 Q9550 and I used the settings that SIGfever posted in the other MFII thread and they work for 4.0 but I am trying to get my CPU up to 4.1 maybe 4.2 but I am having a bunch of trouble once I hit about 482 or so no stability does anyone have settings for a Q9550 OC around 4.1 or 4.2?? Any help would be greatly appreciated... I was thinking maybe 522 FSB but I can't seem to get the memory to cooperate...


Bios 1403 has just been re added to Asus site.

I do not have the SATA hang issue that caused it to be pulled before (but not all peeps got this issue).


Quoted :

Description Maximus II Formula 1403 Bios
Fix Intel 45nm Quad Core CPU ustability issue


File Size 889.74 (KBytes) 2008/11/03 update

[GeorgeVasil]

If they haven't fix the vNB-Vtt=0.11v-0.15v thing...the bios is still a crap.:down:

I have to Cmos my pc every time i open it.:mad:

[CryptiK]

Well given the last asus bios fiasco, and the fact I dont run a quad, and the added fact i have no idea what "ustability" is coupled with the fact I cant get into the asus download section, I'm not going to guinea pig this bios.

[humeyboy]

LOL, that's what you have 2 Bioses and 2 profiles in each for. ;)

Both of you wont know till you try, correct ?

[CryptiK]

I see no need to try it really. Plus I can't get in to download section for some reason.

[GeorgeVasil]

LOL, that's what you have 2 Bioses and 2 profiles in each for. ;)

Both of you wont know till you try, correct ?

That's why i used the word '' If ''.

I dont really have a problem to test it...but as Cryptik said.. this bios hasen't got the best reputation..:up:

[humeyboy]

That's your choice man, but I can host it directly from my PC if you like :


http://82.40.108.246/Maximus-II-ASUS-Formula-1403.zip

Some peep on the pulled 1403 got higher FSB on his Quad than with any other previous bios so I hope for same on a Dual 45nm but only bad thing I read about it was that some (not all) peeps got SATA Hang on Certain Ports.

[Nunzi]

Just tried bios 1403..... getting the hangup on serial port-4 back to 1307

3 drives 1 on port 0 2in raid on port 3&4

[humeyboy]

I only use SATA1 and when Raid is back up SATA2.

[CryptiK]

Sounds like that latest bios is still flawed then. They apparently fix one problem, but make a problem at the same time. What is going on with Asus bios engineers at the moment. Don't they even test before release?

[Guacamole]

I am trying right now but I am not getting any hang ups so far but I just can't get my Q9550 stable to save my life very frustrating!! Bios seems okay but just in the initial stages of testing.....

Okay update I am definitely more stable on the Quad with this bios I am priming right now with lower voltages and a lot of auto settings (PLL) and I have made it much further than 1307 I will post settings in a bit but I haven't checked bandwith so that will be interesting...

[genec57]

The hangup occurs when IDE is set to RAID.
Apparently Asus at least has a clue. 1501 bios is available on the ftp site. I haven't tried it yet so who knows what they will visit upon us this time :).

[humeyboy]

Gee, cool, before today it was all 900 builds or lower on the FTP for me anyhow.

11/06/2008 01:58PM 889,613 Maximus-II-ASUS-Formula-1501.zip

[Guacamole]

Gee, cool, before today it was all 900 builds or lower on the FTP for me anyhow.

11/06/2008 01:58PM 889,613 Maximus-II-ASUS-Formula-1501.zip

I can't find this on the ftp link please.... I only get like 501, 604, 117 and some manuals am I looking in the wrong place??

ftp://ftp.asus.com is where I am looking then I go to mb and then Maximus FII but I don't see it...???? Hmmmm

[humeyboy]

I can't find this on the ftp link please....


http://82.40.108.246/Maximus-II-ASUS-Formula-1501.zip

[genec57]

Here it is: ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_II_Formula/
I tried it - same crap - back to 1307.
If Asus can't do better than this level to complete slop I will look elsewhere for my next board. Shame, they used to be so consistently good.

[Guacamole]

http://82.40.108.246/Maximus-II-ASUS-Formula-1501.zip

You rock thanks man appreciate it...

[Nunzi]

Here it is: ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_II_Formula/
I tried it - same crap - back to 1307.
If Asus can't do better than this level to complete slop I will look elsewhere for my next board. Shame, they used to be so consistently good.


Yup!

[Guacamole]

Okay here are my results First off here is my machine since I don't have it in my sig.. I have Asus MFII 4Gb OCZReaper1066, Q9550, VT4870, bios 1403

88552

My settings are identical to SIGfever at 468 except GTL's are on auto and I am running 471 instead of 468 and my Vcore is set to 1.4 but I can do better just a trial run..

My bandwith:

88553

Bandwith is booo

[humeyboy]

You would get on better running a Asus Mobo with non OCZ Memory.

[Darknezz]

there is a 1501bois out there as well...


ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_II_Formula/

[Grnfinger]

ooOOoo new bios, I'm like a fat chick on chocolate...all over it.
Wonder whats in store for this one?

none of the links provided are working.....


That's your choice man, but I can host it directly from my PC if you like :


http://82.40.108.246/Maximus-II-ASUS-Formula-1403.zip

Some peep on the pulled 1403 got higher FSB on his Quad than with any other previous bios so I hope for same on a Dual 45nm but only bad thing I read about it was that some (not all) peeps got SATA Hang on Certain Ports.

Can you provide more information on this, I tried my drives on all ports and it still did the port hang on boot up, I also increase FSB on every new bios leaving all volts untouched and did not experience higher FSB or was able to lower a single volt setting.

[humeyboy]

I don't understand your question lol.

I was reading this thread (AGAIN) last night looking for hints to OC'ing (as I'm normally non Intel Chipsets) and I seen a peep mention he got a higher FSB on his Quad (think it was 65nm) on 1403 than any other Bios, I cant remember the figure but it was 30mhz Higher (Pure Example 430FSB to 460FSB).

I think he did get the long delay for SATA but many peeps did not get it and only on Port 4 (I read this all here).

I have 1 HDD fitted for now, its on SATA1 and in AHCI Mode and I do not get any delay/hang at boot up, I never tried the pulled 1403 though and i still have to try 1501.

[Grnfinger]

you have 1501? can you up it to rapid share or something... the links provided are not working for me.

[SiGfever]

you have 1501? can you up it to rapid share or something... the links provided are not working for me.

Here ya go pal...

http://rapidshare.com/files/161330620/Maximus-II-ASUS-Formula-1501.zip.html

[humeyboy]

http://82.40.108.246/Maximus-II-ASUS-Formula-1501.zip

[Grnfinger]

Here ya go pal...

http://rapidshare.com/files/161330620/Maximus-II-ASUS-Formula-1501.zip.html

Thank you :up:

[humeyboy]

Are you the one I seen pics of with mad high FSB on next to no voltage on Air ?.

Edit :

http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=4ghzprime-01jyo.png

&

http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=4ghzprime-029cr.png

[Grnfinger]

1501 Bios

Port hang is still present..
change drives over to 1/2..3/4..5/6 all hang.
Bandwidth is still the same altho the rig feels snapier/more responsive, altho the doctor has me on some sweet little pills for my back so it could be them :up:
about to test FSB/volts to see if there is any benifit to waiting 2 mins to boot the pc.

No higher FSB or lower volts possible with 1501 and my hardware
Pull ins are still NOT WORKING!!!!
Come on Asus I know you can do it so lets get it done.

[Sem]

well i got the memtest errors sorted now i have another problem

random hard locks mostly when idle

using 400FSB with ram at 1066 using x6 multiplier so its not my CPU

vNB @ 1.41
vFSB @ 1.3
RAM @ 2.1
PL @ 7 & 8


:(:mad:

[humeyboy]

I'm @ 1600FSB QP (400) x 10 = 4GHZ

Memory is 1000mhz (4:4:4:12-2T) 1:1

All Voltages at lowest they go (manually set but same as Auto apart from PLL which is high on Auto and NB @ 1.2v), CPU @ 1.1v (only needed 1.054v on my NF680I).

Pasted all Orthos and MemTest runs (running all day) but now I need try 1501 lol (this was 1403 out today again).

[e.v.o]

vr6freunde @ FdL managed this:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/52009dzh.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=52009dzh.jpg)

E8600 @ 1.5vcore @ 520 FSB (CPU PLL: 1.50 // vFSB: 1.12 // vNB: 1.14 // vSB: Stock) on water cooling

Impressive..

[humeyboy]

Nice, wish I could get a Template for a starting point for 500FSB, I crash after a while with what I have tried so far.

I know there is a lot of settings I ain't changed as I don't understand them all yet (coming from AMD then Intel on NF Chipsets).

Any help would be welcome. :)

[Grnfinger]

Nice, wish I could get a Template for a starting point for 500FSB, I crash after a while with what I have tried so far.

I know there is a lot of settings I ain't changed as I don't understand them all yet (coming from AMD then Intel on NF Chipsets).

Any help would be welcome. :)

PLL and NB volts will be key to higher FSB
I have an 8600 @ 555FSB someplace, let me look for it and I'll post it up shortly

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 555
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1112MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 300ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 300ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal

DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : Enabled
MEM OC Charger : Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 101

CPU Voltage: 1.41875
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.61925 ( yes I know it high but its what got the chip stable)
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.24575
DRAM Voltage: 1.93250
North Bridge Voltage: 1.28550
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: Auto
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: Auto

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): +40mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): +40mv
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

[screwtech02]

OMFG, what is up with Asus, and their shoddy bios dept??? It takes a good 3-4 min to detect 6 harddrives.... Wow, back to 1307......:shakes:

[SiGfever]

OMFG, what is up with Asus, and their shoddy bios dept??? It takes a good 3-4 min to detect 6 harddrives.... Wow, back to 1307......:shakes:

It would seem that hey have moved their better engineers over to the X58 platform for the upcoming boards. :shrug:

[WhiteFireDragon]

aww another bad BIOS? Grnfinger, did you have a change to mess around with this one yet? i'm currently on Ket's modded BIOS, let me know if i should switch over

changing topics here. i noticed that the OCZ XTC memory cooler can't be used on this mobo because the bottom thumb screw sticks out too much and will interfere with the video card. does anyone else have this problem or know a way around this besides chopping the screw off or moving the video card to the bottom slot?

[Grnfinger]

aww another bad BIOS? Grnfinger, did you have a change to mess around with this one yet? i'm currently on Ket's modded BIOS, let me know if i should switch over

changing topics here. i noticed that the OCZ XTC memory cooler can't be used on this mobo because the bottom thumb screw sticks out too much and will interfere with the video card. does anyone else have this problem or know a way around this besides chopping the screw off or moving the video card to the bottom slot?

1307 is still best to date
new bios is very stable but offers nothing accept longer boot up time
port hang is still present, pull ins are still broken.

Hopefully Asus is listening

[WhiteFireDragon]

1307 is still best to date
new bios is very stable but offers nothing accept longer boot up time
port hang is still present, pull ins are still broken.


is this why the pull-in of every channal in every template i see are all disabled? enabling them would do nothing?

[e.v.o]

Hi Guys,
if you wanna use the new BIOS but got that AHCI Problem, here is a work around:
You have to use SATA Ports 1,3,5 or 2,4,6.
Thats it.. or you simply just use the black ports...

would be nice if you can tell us if it works for you :)

[screwtech02]

aww another bad BIOS? Grnfinger, did you have a change to mess around with this one yet? i'm currently on Ket's modded BIOS, let me know if i should switch over

changing topics here. i noticed that the OCZ XTC memory cooler can't be used on this mobo because the bottom thumb screw sticks out too much and will interfere with the video card. does anyone else have this problem or know a way around this besides chopping the screw off or moving the video card to the bottom slot?

Use the Corsair cooler!!! :cool:

[cstkl1]

1307 is still best to date
new bios is very stable but offers nothing accept longer boot up time
port hang is still present, pull ins are still broken.

Hopefully Asus is listening

not really 1407 solved one issue that i was having on at 4.5ghz
it was the clock skews on the rams...

finally can pass linpack.

[Vega]

Hi gays,

I have just put in this baby in my rig and have some questions. I went from DFI X48 T2R.

ATM I use the white slots for Dimm, is that ok?
What I can see people recommend bios 1307, right?
Does Asus prope and bios read right temps on this board, my cpu temps is way higher than with DFI?
Does this board like NB voltage? I will go for ~4.4-4.5Ghz for 24/7 use....

Of course I come back later with full bios settings when its starting... :)

[Grnfinger]

Hi Guys,
if you wanna use the new BIOS but got that AHCI Problem, here is a work around:
You have to use SATA Ports 1,3,5 or 2,4,6.
Thats it.. or you simply just use the black ports...

would be nice if you can tell us if it works for you :)

This dosent work for me, if anyting its increasing boot time,
Will try the black ports when I get home from work

[Nunzi]

I moved my raid to the speeding HD ports, works now!


Do I need to install software for the speding HD ports ? did the setup in the bios
THANKS

[screwtech02]

Quick question, can this board do Quadfire, or does it need to be dual true x16 slots for that to work???