ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[SiGfever]

I'm willing to go as high as 2.2 actual.
I had to run them on the high side for the Maximus X38 board so I know these CL5D's can do it.
If you have decent air flow and they dont get to hot I'm sure 2.2v is safe.
You could ask the G.SKill rep to be safe but I find him rather useless personally.

:rolleyes: :ROTF:

I have a Corsair Dominator fan on them. Plus the middle push/pull fan on my PA120.3 blows across them in my UFO.

[TouGe]

No, I have seen other people having problems on the p5q thread with the same combo. All my components were working on another motherboard. Everything is at stock, I tried with one dimm, also increased ram voltage. Memory is micron d9gkx.

why do you say p5q-d is a better performer? higher max fsb? higher cpu or ram overclock?
I just found it to be less picky when it comes to vtt/nb voltages than the M2F and memory bandwidth was slightly better with the P5Q-D, IMO. I'm not sure why you or others are having problems since mine was a total joy to work with. Have you tried Ket's BIOS's yet? He has a post in this section.



I have Mushkin XP2-8500 and GSkill 8500 the GSkill actually out perform Mushkin. I find them to be rather poor ram for the money. Alotta hype and no balls, kinda like AMD :rofl:
Really? I loved my 4x1GB Mushkin PC2-8500 sticks. I haven't tried their 2Gig sticks yet but from what I remember Leeg had no complaints.

[nugzo]

I'm stuck at 4365mhz 485FSB. I'm pretty sure its a FSB issue not max CPU OC.
I dropped multi to 8 and left all settings the same and still couldnt get stable at 490.
Windows will freeze a few minutes after booting. I've tried upping vcore, NB, SB, FSBT, and PLL.
Also i tried transaction booster on auto. My NB and SB never go over 55c.
Here are my bios settings and at the end a ss of 8hrs stable at my highest OC.
Thanks in advance for any help.





Extreme Tweaker
AI Overclock Tuner: Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9.0
FSB Frequency: 487
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
DRAM Frequency: Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A1: Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2: Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 B1: Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 B2: Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Auto
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge: 5
RAS# Activate Time: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay: 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 52
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D): 7
Write to Read Delay (S): 3
Write to Read Delay (D): 5
Read to Read Delay (S): 4
Read to Read Delay (D): 6
Write to Write Delay (S): 4
Write to Write Delay (D): 6

Write to Pre Delay: 14
Read to Pre Delay: 5
Pre to Pre Delay: 1
All Pre to ACT Delay: 6
All Pre to REF Delay: 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
DRAM Read Training: Auto
MEM OC Charger: Auto
AI Clock Twister: Strong
Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCI-E Frequency: 101

CPU Voltage: 1.34575V
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55300V
FSBT: 1.35175V
DRAM Voltage: 2.11800V
North Bridge Voltage: 1.57700V
South Bridge Voltage 1.5: 1.55300V
South Bridge Voltage 1.1: Auto

CPU GTL Reference 0: Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1: -50mV
CPU GTL Reference 2: Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3: -50mV
North Bridge GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage: Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCI-E Spread Spectrum: Disabled

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[The Nemesis]

@nugzo

Just to see, raise PLL to or over 1.6v I ran into exact same issue @ 488FSB but If I set PLL to auto or 1.6+ it primed or over 2Hours. Of course I was too scared and stopped it though. :)

[Razor_Blade]

Here is a strange one: every third or forth time I put the computer to sleep, it will not come back from it. When I reboot, it tells me that I need to enter bios and fix things. When I get there, all of my settings are gone. This happens whither I am overclocked or not. Any ideas? Oh yeah, I have a q6600, 2x2 Gb G.skill pc 8000 ram, and a 3870 x2. This is my HTPC.

[elsupremo]

Please help me understand something. I see so many people being able to overclock quite nicely with very low vcore voltages. I even looked back at one of TouGe's posts where he was stable at 3.8Ghz with the same CPU as mine, and I followed it as closely as I was able considering that I have different RAM. I was able to boot into Windows at 3.8ghz with only 1.31v VCore. On my own, I have NEVER been able to actually get into windows at 4 Ghz under 1.5v. I know I'm doing something wrong and I don't understand the voltages.

My only goal is to get 4 ghz stable 24/7. I was close with bios 0802 (using very high vcore (1.525) and PLL (1.69v), but tonight I updated to 1307 and those same settings don't seem close anymore.

My G.Skill RAM are non-MicronD9, so they are not top of the line. I suspect RAM is playing a part in my troubles, and of course, the voltages. If someone could help me understand why if I give it enough vcore, I can make it work, but I'm overvolting like mad while other, more knowledgeable people, are getting the same speeds with WAY less volts -I would be so appreciative.


Ty Grnfinger. I really appreciate your time. I would not have touched 90% of those settings you had me change, as I'm a beginning-level overclocker.

Starting with the settings you gave me, I could not boot into Windows - it would reboot while loading Windows. I am not sure what the relationship is between vcore, PLL, and the GTL volts, so I basically was working a bit blind. I kept the GTL settings you gave me, since I didn't know what else to do with them, and just kept increasing vcore and PLL. I'm having trouble finding a way to boot into Windows and pass a 5 run IntelBurnTest without having high Vcore and PLL. Can you share some strategy about how what to do here, other than just boosting vcore to the stars?

[nugzo]

Please help me understand something. I see so many people being able to overclock quite nicely with very low vcore voltages. I even looked back at one of TouGe's posts where he was stable at 3.8Ghz with the same CPU as mine, and I followed it as closely as I was able considering that I have different RAM. I was able to boot into Windows at 3.8ghz with only 1.31v VCore. On my own, I have NEVER been able to actually get into windows at 4 Ghz under 1.5v. I know I'm doing something wrong and I don't understand the voltages.

My only goal is to get 4 ghz stable 24/7. I was close with bios 0802 (using very high vcore (1.525) and PLL (1.69v), but tonight I updated to 1307 and those same settings don't seem close anymore.

My G.Skill RAM are non-MicronD9, so they are not top of the line. I suspect RAM is playing a part in my troubles, and of course, the voltages. If someone could help me understand why if I give it enough vcore, I can make it work, but I'm overvolting like mad while other, more knowledgeable people, are getting the same speeds with WAY less volts -I would be so appreciative.
What CPU, have u messed with GTL's? post all bios settings like mine above. u can copy it and change values to yours.

[nugzo]

@nugzo

Just to see, raise PLL to or over 1.6v I ran into exact same issue @ 488FSB but If I set PLL to auto or 1.6+ it primed or over 2Hours. Of course I was too scared and stopped it though. :)

Pretty sure i tried 1.6+ but i'll try again now. I just ran 4 passes of memtest all tests at 500x8 so i don't think its my ram. but 500x8 i cant get to desktop. I get windows load screens but right before desktop the screen stays black. Monitor light is on so its still gettin signal just no desktop.

[nugzo]

I tried upping pll to 1.7 and nb to 1.6 and taking out 4gb ram, same thing. Gonna try older bios now.


Edit: tried 0907 no difference. I'm in windows now at 490x8 but as soon i reached desktop the sidebar errored out. so it should freeze any time.

[elsupremo]

What CPU, have u messed with GTL's? post all bios settings like mine above. u can copy it and change values to yours.



I have the QX9650.
2 GB DDR2800 Gskill, NON Micron D9
4870 X2
Areca RAID
Win XP 32bit

My original post:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3311837&postcount=1057

Grnfinger's reply:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3311996&postcount=1059

You can see my results with his settings here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3320635&postcount=1162



Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 450
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: Auto
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto







3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
DRAM Read Training: Auto
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Auto
Ai Transaction Booster: Auto


PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.525
CPU PLL Voltage: Auto (usually goes to 1.69)
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.31
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
North Bridge Voltage: 1.31
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.51325
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.11325

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto









CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[CryptiK]

@ Nugzo, I should have been more specific when I said keep it under 65*C, I meant using Realtemp, which is ~ 8-10*C higher than the temp shown by asus probe.


@cryptik, check this out . all i did was disable LLC and set 1.4vcore in bios,changed fsb from 445 to 456 and its sill priming fine. before i couldnt get prime any higher than 4050.

Nice work, perhaps LLC was contributing to your instability. What vcore were you at under load with LLC enabled?

[nugzo]

@ Nugzo, I should have been more specific when I said keep it under 65*C, I meant using Realtemp, which is ~ 8-10*C higher than the temp shown by asus probe.


I'm using realtemp. When did you say that?

[TouGe]

I have the QX9650.
2 GB DDR2800 Gskill, NON Micron D9
4870 X2
Areca RAID
Win XP 32bit

My original post:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3311837&postcount=1057

Grnfinger's reply:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3311996&postcount=1059

You can see my results with his settings here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3320635&postcount=1162



Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 450
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: Auto
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto







3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
DRAM Read Training: Auto
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Auto
Ai Transaction Booster: Auto


PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.525
CPU PLL Voltage: Auto (usually goes to 1.69)
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.31
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
North Bridge Voltage: 1.31
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.51325
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.11325

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto









CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

First, you need to adjust your GTL's, 1 & 3 for sure and possibly 0 & 2. There is a sticky in this section that explains hows to do this for the M2F. Also your PLL is too high (keep it under 1.60V if possible) and you shouldn't need >1.5V vcore w/ LLC enabled, what are your CPU temps (idle/load)?. Unless you are under some serious water that has to be pretty toasty. You also need to get rid of all those auto settings as well.

The only time I ran a high FSB was when I did 8x450MHz using the 266 strap and a Performance Level 8 w/ Ai clock twister set to Strong but that was using a P5Q-D--I don't remember all the settings.

I'd just work on getting your FSB stable @ 450MHz with a 7 multi (w/ Vcore @ 1.26 LLC enabled, PLL: 1.51325V, FSBT: ?, NBV: ?)and once you get it Prime stable for 2 hours just start bumping the multi up 1/2 steps. You need to learn how your chip reacts to changing PLL, vtt, vcore, and GTL's. Just throwing a bunch of voltage at it will only make your OC frustrating and less satisfying. There's a sweet spot there somewhere just take your time and you will find it.

[radaja]

@cryptik. 1.39 in bios under load was 1.37. now i can run IBT and temps stay around 60 -65c,cause underkoad volts are much lower.

[angkies]

mine :

http://i38.tinypic.com/2qapker.jpg

E8600 Q820A599
Maximus II Formula 0701 bios
Cell Shock PC8000 C4 2gb kit
Olympia 700W
TRUX Black with Zalman 12cm Silent Fan

[CryptiK]

I'm using realtemp. When did you say that?

A couple of pages ago, perhaps it was not directed at you. Everyone's definition of safe temps differs, whatever you're comfortable with really.


@cryptik. 1.39 in bios under load was 1.37. now i can run IBT and temps stay around 60 -65c,cause underkoad volts are much lower.

Nice, so with LLC enabled and 1.37v load you were not stable @ 4050, but now without LLC and 1.34v load you are stable at 4100? Interesting.


mine :


E8600 Q820A599
Maximus II Formula 0701 bios
Cell Shock PC8000 C4 2gb kit
Olympia 700W
TRUX Black with Zalman 12cm Silent Fan

Very nice clock for the voltage, what is the max FSB you can hit with that cpu using 6x multi on air with a safe voltage? I'm curious as to how this board handles higher FSB speeds and I'm unsure if it my CPU or the board that is holding me back as I can't get over 570 FSB.

[angkies]

i can hit FSB600 on air cooling

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=425808

but not stable when i run orthos blend tes :mad:

i will update my result on FSB585 on blend orthos 1h, wish me luck dude ;)

sorry my english not to good :rofl:

[CryptiK]

600 FSB, nice one. Your cpu may need a little more vcore, also maybe a slight bump in vNB, but it should be doable. BTW your english is fine.

[RealTelstar]

Hey folks,
I'm considering this board for my htpc, with a Q9550 (slightly oc).

My questions is:
1) it is stable with this cpu? If so, which bios? I dont want to see a bsod with lenses.
2) The extra sata ports can be used for a dvd and the boot drive? I need all 6 intel ports for my storage.

[nugzo]

I can pass 8+ hours of prime small fft and overnight memtest but cant run blend without errors immediately after starting. Any suggestions? My settings are a few posts up/

[RealTelstar]

2) The extra sata ports can be used for a dvd and the boot drive? I need all 6 intel ports for my storage.

From a review on newegg:
The second SATA controler (two black head) does not support CD drives, only HDD, so to connect a CD you have you use either PATA or one of the 6 Intel SATA ports. Plan was to boot to one of the two, CD drive on the other, and use the 6 for a hardware RAID, but looks like a 3rd party PCI-E controller will be the option.

Looks like I either put the dvd on the one intel port, sacrifying it or I have to opt for another board. Which is a pity, i love my rampage formula and everything here is very similar (but with better quad support).

[nugzo]

This board seems to tax my memory harder than the nforce platform. wanting to go 12:10 multi instead of 1:1. What memory (8gb 2x2x2x2) would you recommend for this board/chipset? I have this now (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166) and was thinking of getting this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231194). Thanks for the help.

[Grnfinger]

Try setting Clock Skew to 300ps it will help to get the ram stable
Also relax the timing a tad and it should settle down.

[d3885u]

@angkies...
Nice result...come on try to push more your FSB...I'm still waiting for your another great result...especially 600+ FSB...

[Hansfragger]

Hello everybody. I finished assembling my rig and am running @4.27Ghz, and am very appreciative of all the time people have spent on this thread. My goal is 5Ghz:rolleyes:but I will settle for the max of this board which will probably be the limiting component.
I did have a question - I haven't found a solution to stopping the clock speed throttling. When I run CPU-Z, it shows my multi at 6 and my Core Speed as 2550, but my multi is set at 10 and my Core Speed is 4250(I can see it flipping back and forth on CPU-Z). I thought it might be ACPI and set it to disabled in Bios, but it wouldn't boot, so I had to re-enable it. I see everyone who posts cpu-z screens has their top cpu speed showing so I must be missing something. Any ideas?

Thanks

[Grnfinger]

Hello everybody. I finished assembling my rig and am running @4.27Ghz, and am very appreciative of all the time people have spent on this thread. My goal is 5Ghz:rolleyes:but I will settle for the max of this board which will probably be the limiting component.
I did have a question - I haven't found a solution to stopping the clock speed throttling. When I run CPU-Z, it shows my multi at 6 and my Core Speed as 2550, but my multi is set at 10 and my Core Speed is 4250(I can see it flipping back and forth on CPU-Z). I thought it might be ACPI and set it to disabled in Bios, but it wouldn't boot, so I had to re-enable it. I see everyone who posts cpu-z screens has their top cpu speed showing so I must be missing something. Any ideas?

Thanks

Disable speed step/c1e in bios

[Hansfragger]

:up:Thanks - Your awesome!

[nugzo]

Try setting Clock Skew to 300ps it will help to get the ram stable
Also relax the timing a tad and it should settle down.

Thanks for advice. I'm assuming the DRAM clock skew right? change all channels to delay 300ps or advance 300ps?

[Grnfinger]

Thanks for advice. I'm assuming the DRAM clock skew right? change all channels to delay 300ps or advance 300ps?

Sorry I should have been more clear.
Set Dram Clock Skew to advanced 300ps what ever channels your running ram in.

[Grnfinger]

Double post alert......

Not killer bandwidth but I'm happy with the final results....

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/40_1130_stable.jpg

[zlojack]

Nice work Grn.

[SiGfever]

I am still working on my overclock but here is where I am with the memory so far, I know it ain't much but it is a work in progress.

[Grnfinger]

Nice work Grn.

Thanks my friend:D

[kwalker]

Hey folks,
I'm considering this board for my htpc, with a Q9550 (slightly oc).

My questions is:
1) it is stable with this cpu? If so, which bios? I dont want to see a bsod with lenses.
2) The extra sata ports can be used for a dvd and the boot drive? I need all 6 intel ports for my storage.

This board works very well with the Q9550 and you can OC the 9550 easily to around 3.7GHz with everything pretty much stock 3.8 if your chip is decent.(of course 4GHz is doable 24/7 also but voltages get a tad high)
The only thing I noticed is some ram modules cant handle all the dividers available on this board.
Bios 1307 seems very stable
I'm not sure about the Sata ports

[angkies]

update result ::p:

http://i36.tinypic.com/11ael8n.jpg

[angkies]

Try setting Clock Skew to 300ps it will help to get the ram stable
Also relax the timing a tad and it should settle down.

CPU Clock skew or NB clock skew?

[Earzz]

I am still working on my overclock but here is where I am with the memory so far, I know it ain't much but it is a work in progress.

Well, bit of a stupid question but is that really a C0 what you have there?
Im running the same clock with the same ram speed and timings and i got lot slower L2 cache results.
Dont know that got to do with the motherboard or the cpu differnce.

[Grnfinger]

CPU Clock skew or NB clock skew?

Dram Clock Skew

[SiGfever]

Well, bit of a stupid question but is that really a C0 what you have there?
Im running the same clock with the same ram speed and timings and i got lot slower L2 cache results.
Dont know that got to do with the motherboard or the cpu differnce.

Yes.

[Grnfinger]

After some fine tuning this is what I'm settling on

Seems the G.Skils are not up to the task of 1132MHz so running Mushkins XP-2's

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/10loop_40_stable_1130.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/bench_40.jpg

[radaja]

this is the best ican do with my memory. iwas able to get 4100 w/memory running 1/1divider,but when itry 5/6 i have to back down fsb.my mem is rated at 1100, i just cant seem to get it to run past 1090.any help would be greatly appreciated. ive tried raising myvfsb 1 notch, myvnb 1 notch, my vcore and still not ablr to get it prime stable. here are my settingshttp://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq87/radajarocs/Capture42.jpghttp://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq87/radajarocs/Capture43.jpg

[nugzo]

I'm still having blend issues. Lowered mem to 930, removed 2 sticks, up voltages, lowered voltages, ran many memtest runs with no errors, changed dram skew as advised, loosened all timings..... primary timings relaxed to 6-6-6-15, lowered all subtimings by 1 number, still failing blend. not instantly now like before but within 10 minutes. And the memory benchies ar horrible compared to my 780i. My read scores were almost double with the 780i.... Makes me want to order another Striker II Formula. Oh well i'll keep trying whats advised and keep playing and reading. I have soo many settings on auto that i'm sure i'm missing something. Is there an OC handbook per say like i had with the nforce chipsets? where each individual bios setting is explained in detail with positive and negative effects towards your OC and system stabilty? If so please link me!!!!

[CryptiK]

@ Grnfinger - nice work, that is quite respectable for 24/7 setting :up:

@ Nugzo - What vNB are you using? Do you have static read control or read training enabled? 1.28v vNB should be fine for DDR2-1100, and disable the two options I mentioned if you have them enabled.

[Grnfinger]

this is the best ican do with my memory. iwas able to get 4100 w/memory running 1/1divider,but when itry 5/6 i have to back down fsb.my mem is rated at 1100, i just cant seem to get it to run past 1090.any help would be greatly appreciated. ive tried raising myvfsb 1 notch, myvnb 1 notch, my vcore and still not ablr to get it prime stable. here are my settings

I would suggest this for 1100MHz

DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A1: advanced 300ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2: advanced 300ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 B1: advanced 300ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 B2: advanced 300ps

DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15-18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55-65
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 10
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 16
Read to PRE Delay : 6
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

And add a few drops of dram juice

Those work for my CL5D's upto 1120 MHz with 2.1 volts
Also your NB volts look really low imo for what your trying to accomplish


@ Grnfinger - nice work, that is quite respectable for 24/7 setting :up:



Thanks :up:

[radaja]

@grnfinger,this new setup i have is real picky about what volt i can give it. for instance it seem i dont have any headroom where volts(vfsb&vnb) are concerned the only stable setting seems to be vfsb 1.14- 1.16, vnb1.16-1.20 any deviation results in prime failing within the first 2 minutes or bsod or windows lockup. i just trid 9x439 w/ mem 1101 and no boot, ive also been trying 6x485-500 w/vfsb 1.14-1.16 and vnb 1.16- 1.30 no luck. its really depressing to be so limited (9x449 w/ mem at 1080 5/6). my previous g.skill 8500 out performed this new 8800 set.

[CryptiK]

Can you run 1.20 vFSB & 1.25v vNB together? Your voltage limitation is a strange issue. Do you have any other ram you can use to try things out?

[radaja]

@cryptik ill give it a try. no to the ram , im going to get a new set any suggestions ,also would 2x1 kit be better for over clocking.UPDATE just tried 1.2 and 1.25 failed prime within 1 second tried 1.24 vfsb 1.25 vnb failed after 45 seconds

[CryptiK]

Yeah a 2 x 1GB micron D9 based ram kit would be better for overclocking but not so good for longevity. My CellShock PC8000 CL4 GKX kits are nice though. The best 2 x 2GB ram kit available today is the G.Skill 9600 PI kit, they do 650+ MHz.

[radaja]

where can i find those team extreme or cellshocks that you have there

[dawdaw]

Hi everyone, Thanks for all the feedbacks and advices you provide in this thread, really great job guys especially CryptiK:up: . well i'm interested in getting the M2F and i dunno whether i should get it now or wait till it hits the shelves with the P45 Rev A3 in? and is it that reliable or it does suffer from the same P5Q D problems, if i get it now what Bios do u suggest, Thanks again !

[CryptiK]

where can i find those team extreme or cellshocks that you have there

I got my Team Xtreem from an Australian etailer, but I got my CellShock here:

http://www.memoryc.com/computermemory/ddr2ram.html?Brands=CellShock


Hi everyone, Thanks for all the feedbacks and advices you provide in this thread, really great job guys especially CryptiK:up: . well i'm interested in getting the M2F and i dunno whether i should get it now or wait till it hits the shelves with the P45 Rev A3 in? and is it that reliable or it does suffer from the same P5Q D problems, if i get it now what Bios do u suggest, Thanks again !

A3 revision seems to clock a bit better, but the A2 rev is fine, I have seen it do 670 FSB and can do 600 FSB on air pretty easily if your cpu can do it. No harm in waiting though if you don't need a board soon but I'm not sure when/if the A3 M2F's will be out.

The board has been great, and has no issues like the P5Q-Deluxe. There is some ram incompatibility (some OCZ models IIRC) but most popular brands/models of ram seems to work fine.

BIOS 1307 (the latest one) has been the best for me. It's stable, and has the most ram compatibility.

[dawdaw]

Thanks Cryptik for the flash answer !

[radaja]

@cryptik, thanks for the link. ill be buying these tomorrow.

[Shiranui Gen-An]

Yeah a 2 x 1GB micron D9 based ram kit would be better for overclocking but not so good for longevity. My CellShock PC8000 CL4 GKX kits are nice though. The best 2 x 2GB ram kit available today is the G.Skill 9600 PI kit, they do 650+ MHz.

Speaking of CellShock GKX, it looks like my Maximus II likes them fairly well, as it can clock them to 600MHz CAS5 without giving errors in Memtest, my only Intel-based board that can do so. BTW, does anyone know the VDIMM voltage read point(s) on this board?

[screwtech02]

Anybody else getting random reboots, with all your bios settings lost??? I ended up having to reformat due to a unknown "uncorrectible hardware error" on my box that has been "stable" for more than 2 weeks now... Took me over a hour to get the vid cards to be recognized, i was runnin kets mod bios, but have since reverted back to the ASUS 1307. If this keeps up, im gonna slam my P5E back in and RMA the damn thing.... Ugh.....:shakes:

[SiGfever]

I have been playing a little more with my settings and here is where I am at with the memory, still a long way to go but mid week I should have a couple new chips to play with.

[radaja]

this is with all volts set to auto except, vdimm set manually to 1.90 and cpupll set manually to 1.50(auto set 1.69). is this normal?also i have this wierd problem of my ch-5 pull ins disappearing and reappearing on every other boot, anyone else seeing this?http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq87/radajarocs/Captureauto.jpg

[CryptiK]

@cryptik ill give it a try. no to the ram , im going to get a new set any suggestions ,also would 2x1 kit be better for over clocking.UPDATE just tried 1.2 and 1.25 failed prime within 1 second tried 1.24 vfsb 1.25 vnb failed after 45 seconds

That certainly is strange. What are your NB temps like?


Speaking of CellShock GKX, it looks like my Maximus II likes them fairly well, as it can clock them to 600MHz CAS5 without giving errors in Memtest, my only Intel-based board that can do so. BTW, does anyone know the VDIMM voltage read point(s) on this board?

Yeah it seems to go well with GMH/GKX, I can get 1200 stable, and can bench @ 1320 CL5. I'm sure it could go higher if I got aggressive with the vdimm.

You can measure vdimm from the 2 mosfets above the dimm slots, but the voltage at each fet may differ, as the mem VRM is 2 phase.


Anybody else getting random reboots, with all your bios settings lost??? I ended up having to reformat due to a unknown "uncorrectible hardware error" on my box that has been "stable" for more than 2 weeks now... Took me over a hour to get the vid cards to be recognized, i was runnin kets mod bios, but have since reverted back to the ASUS 1307. If this keeps up, im gonna slam my P5E back in and RMA the damn thing.... Ugh.....:shakes:

No such issues here. Have you tried setting your vFSB & vNB no furhter apart than 0.11v? (eg: if vFSB = 1.2v, set your vNB no higher than 1.31v)


I have been playing a little more with my settings and here is where I am at with the memory, still a long way to go but mid week I should have a couple new chips to play with.

Not bad :up:


this is with all volts set to auto except, vdimm set manually to 1.90 and cpupll set manually to 1.50(auto set 1.69). is this normal?also i have this wierd problem of my ch-5 pull ins disappearing and reappearing on every other boot, anyone else seeing this?

At stock FSB, auto settings should give low/normal voltages, it's only when you start raising the FSB that the auto settings start to overvolt a lot.

[radaja]

@cryptik ive never seen the nb temps go above 35c.also do you think any of my issues could have to do with my power supply? its an antec basiq 550W w/ three 12v rails two are 22a and one is 25a.

[screwtech02]

I forgot about that issue CryptiK, i will check out my settings, i have been bumping different volts, so that is probably exactly what the issue is....:cool:

[screwtech02]

Oops, double post.....

[unex|st]

Anyone noticed multiplier issues when powering on from power off state? My board keeps starting up with 9x multiplier even if it is set at 8x. After applying a reboot the multiplier is set correctly (1307 bios and E6600 conroe)

[Grnfinger]

Anyone noticed multiplier issues when powering on from power off state? My board keeps starting up with 9x multiplier even if it is set at 8x. After applying a reboot the multiplier is set correctly (1307 bios and E6600 conroe)

no have yet to see that one. But then again I have yet to experience any of these anomalies

[radaja]

check this out, i lowered vtt to 1.12 vnb to 1.16 and was able to go even higher with my fsb. im going to see how much farther i can push with these volts.http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq87/radajarocs/Capture88.jpg

[BuGjAE]

check this out, i lowered vtt to 1.12 vnb to 1.16 and was able to go even higher with my fsb. im going to see how much farther i can push with these volts.http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq87/radajarocs/Capture88.jpg

Radaja ,So Can you get pass Prime95 over 35 minutes with your setting?
For me I can't get pass above 35 minutes and constant FATAL ERROR around 31 minutes of "Blend" both Prime 95 and ORTHOS:confused:
but I'm pretty sure my Vcore is enough.

anyone have a suggestion? ThanX in advance.:yepp:

[WaterFlex]

BuGjAE
OOwwweeee. You will kill your chip with that CPUPLL! 1.50 is quite enough for your clock!

[radaja]

@buGjae, yea on that run it ran for an hour before i stopped it to try and go higher .

[CryptiK]

@cryptik ive never seen the nb temps go above 35c.also do you think any of my issues could have to do with my power supply? its an antec basiq 550W w/ three 12v rails two are 22a and one is 25a.

That PSU should have enough power for your system, unless it's getting old and/or failing. Your 12v rail is low however, at 11.82v. If you can borrow one from a mate to test with it wouldn't hurt to rule it out. Upping the vNB though isn't going to really pull much more power, it's more the cpu pulling the most power. At a low cpu clock, can you run higher vNB without problems?


Anyone noticed multiplier issues when powering on from power off state? My board keeps starting up with 9x multiplier even if it is set at 8x. After applying a reboot the multiplier is set correctly (1307 bios and E6600 conroe)

Do you mean being unplugged from the power point or just a normal cold boot? I haven't noticed this from either situation but I use the 9x multi 24/7.


Radaja ,So Can you get pass Prime95 over 35 minutes with your setting?
For me I can't get pass above 35 minutes and constant FATAL ERROR around 31 minutes of "Blend" both Prime 95 and ORTHOS:confused:
but I'm pretty sure my Vcore is enough.

anyone have a suggestion? ThanX in advance.:yepp:

Definitely lower you vPLL to 1.50v to start with, and try to stay below 1.6v no matter what. Also you may either need more vdimm (depends on your ram) or more vcore and vNB.

[unex|st]

Do you mean being unplugged from the power point or just a normal cold boot? I haven't noticed this from either situation but I use the 9x multi 24/7.


It is happening on both plugged and unplugged power boots. I'm running a very standard 400*8 config with relatively low voltages, during every cold boot I get 400*9 and sometimes system is unable to boot (due to cpu instability I suppose). If I press ctrl alt canc during bios screens I get the correct 400*8 at next boot.

At the moment I think this board is really not worth the money it costs, nice performance when using conservative OCs along with low voltages, but going for a more aggressive oc is a no go.
At the end of the day an x48 board would have probably been a better choice...

[electricl]

Hello everybody

I just got a 2X2gb kit of corsair dominators 1066MHz and now my system feels flaky. Right now Im running them at 950MHz because the other speed I can choose with 333 strap is 1140MHz. Ill get the board to boot with mem@1140MHz but it will fail prime within seconds, intelburn test will also fail. Any ideas of how to get everything stable? Should I give up on 4GHz? stable? Thank you all for a very good forum. :up:


Heres my current settings



CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to NB: 333
FSB Freq: 475
PCIE Freq: 105
DRAM Freq: 951
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Dram Read Training : Auto
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Lighter
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled


CPU volt:1.32500
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52650
NB Voltage: 1.35175
DRAM Voltage: 2.17100
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.31200
SB Voltage: 1.1
SB 1.5 Voltage: 1.5

CPU GTL Reference 0 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +20mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[Grnfinger]

Hello everybody

I just got a 2X2gb kit of corsair dominators 1066MHz and now my system feels flaky. Right now Im running them at 950MHz because the other speed I can choose with 333 strap is 1140MHz. Ill get the board to boot with mem@1140MHz but it will fail prime within seconds, intelburn test will also fail. Any ideas of how to get everything stable? Should I give up on 4GHz? stable? Thank you all for a very good forum. :up:


Heres my current settings






Try this

Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 350ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 350ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 65
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 10
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 16
Read to PRE Delay : 6
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

[electricl]

Thanks Grin for the fast answer, Ill try these settings right away.










Try this

Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 350ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 350ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 65
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 10
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 16
Read to PRE Delay : 6
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

[screwtech02]

Man, it would appear that the bios needs a bit of work in the memory bandwidth dept... Can only get 9523 read, 8497 write, and 9334 copy in Everest. Latency is 54.2. That is running with the modded bios posted previously in the thread. I would like to hope that ASUS will work on it.... They certainly cant tout a board to support 16gb, and not have individuals try and push the envelope with lotsa memory....:shakes:

[SiGfever]

Man, it would appear that the bios needs a bit of work in the memory bandwidth dept... Can only get 9523 read, 8497 write, and 9334 copy in Everest. Latency is 54.2. That is running with the modded bios posted previously in the thread. I would like to hope that ASUS will work on it.... They certainly cant tout a board to support 16gb, and not have individuals try and push the envelope with lotsa memory....:shakes:

If Asus doesn't step up to the plate this being an ROG board, they will lose a lot of customers. Why pay top dollar if lower boards seem to receive more attention?

[CryptiK]

Yes it really needs some increased efficiency and bandwidth with lower latency at a given PL, FSB and ram speed.

Also, when are they going to release the next BIOS? The P5Q-Deluxe (and other P5Q series boards) has had 1402, 1403 and now 1406 but they seem to have just forgotten about the Maximus II Formula. Very poor effort by Asus indeed.

EDIT - sure there aren't any glaring issues they need to address, other than increasing memory compatibility with more ram types, but it would certainly be nice to see further optimization and increased efficiency with new BIOS revisions.

[Harsha]

Hi Cryptik,
Sorry for the long delay....got the new MOBO but still didn't post,replaced the PSU for an Enermax Infiniti 720 (thought there might be a dead rail not supplying enough Amps to the system) still no luck....assuming its the CPU so will replace that this week and see. Man this is annoying and expensive...will finally get back to you once this thing actually posts.

Any suggestions on a Quad that will be stable @4GHz with the RAM I have (assuming that's not blown... :bsod: :brick: )

[CryptiK]

Hi Cryptik,
Sorry for the long delay....got the new MOBO but still didn't post,replaced the PSU for an Enermax Infiniti 720 (thought there might be a dead rail not supplying enough Amps to the system) still no luck....assuming its the CPU so will replace that this week and see. Man this is annoying and expensive...will finally get back to you once this thing actually posts.

Any suggestions on a Quad that will be stable @4GHz with the RAM I have (assuming that's not blown... :bsod: :brick: )

No problem that's really not good mate. Have you tried using just one stick of ram to see if it will post or trying to use any other ram in it? Perhaps it's a memory incompatibility issue? Can you test the CPU in another board?

[Harsha]

Hi Cryptik,
I tried another GPU but that doesn't seem to be the problem and 1 stick at a time....still no post. if its the CPU as it seems to be now I'll just bite the bullet and get a Q9550 tomorrow for around $350 USD. Worst case scenario is I have my P5K deluxe and my Antec 550 as the starting point for a HTPC so it
wont go to waste.
If I remember correctly the 8GB of Muskin DDR2-800 I have was clocked @ 475 on the P5K deluxe with the Q6600, if I can achieve the 475 clock on RAM with the Maximus II Formula and have it stable I'll be more than happy. :party:

[CryptiK]

If the CPU works on your P5K, it should work on your Maximus II Formula. It's not the PSU, and not the video card.....is there any other ram you have that you can try? Perhaps the board is not compatible with that mushkin?

The 9550 would be a very nice cpu, try and find an E0 stepping if you can, it should clock a little better and require less voltage for a given speed compared to a C1.

[Harsha]

Sorry, Thought I mentioned before in my first post. After trying to wake up from sleep on the P5K Deluxe, I got power going through to the board,HDD's and KB and mouse(LED's) but no screen. After hard reboot no post beep or screen. Thats why i thought it might be either the MB or PSU.

[CryptiK]

Ah that's right I got it mixed up with another person's issue. It does appear that you have eliminated everything else. You would expect ram beep code if the ram was faulty. Either way, a 9550 should do you well, and new ram is cheap now comparatively anyhow.

[radaja]

@Cryptik or @dee i just got my cell shock today and im having a hell of a time running them anything but ddr-800 5-5-5-15 any help would be appreciated, thanks

[CryptiK]

Post your ram related settings in a template so we can have a look at them. I can direct you once I know what you have set :up:

[SiGfever]

Hey guys, here is where I am right now and have reached a stumbling block on moving forward. Any suggestions? I fail Prime95 "Blend" after several minutes beyond these settings. This is stable.




Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 460
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1105MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 300ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto







3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: Auto
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Stronger
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 8
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 101

CPU Voltage: 1.4250
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.33850
DRAM Voltage: 2.14450
North Bridge Voltage: 1.39150
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): +20mv
CPU GTL Reference (1):-15mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): +20mv
CPU GTL Reference (3): -15mv
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto









CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[CryptiK]

Try:

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 475
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-950MHz (lowest choice)

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 300ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.4250
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.33850
DRAM Voltage: 2.14450
North Bridge Voltage: 1.39150
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): +20mv
CPU GTL Reference (1):-15mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): +20mv
CPU GTL Reference (3): -15mv
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

It may be your CPU limiting you through, that is a fairly high vcore you have for 3.7GHz already, if going any lower on the vcore makes you unstable at 3.7GHz, I'd say you are actually CPU limited.

[SiGfever]

It may be your CPU limiting you through, that is a fairly high vcore you have for 3.7GHz already, if going any lower on the vcore makes you unstable at 3.7GHz, I'd say you are actually CPU limited.
Yeah, that is why I named the cpu "Fido", it is a real dog. :D

I will try the settings tomorrow and let you know, thanks.
John

[radaja]

@cryptik heres my settings. mem timings are all auto. i did an os switch from vista64 to 32-xp,check out my +12v now they never were that high before. whats the best volts for this speed(ram).thankyouhttp://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq87/radajarocs/newone2.jpg

[gotsoul]

....

[BuGjAE]

Try:

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 475
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-950MHz (lowest choice)

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 300ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.4250
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.33850
DRAM Voltage: 2.14450
North Bridge Voltage: 1.39150
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): +20mv
CPU GTL Reference (1):-15mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): +20mv
CPU GTL Reference (3): -15mv
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

It may be your CPU limiting you through, that is a fairly high vcore you have for 3.7GHz already, if going any lower on the vcore makes you unstable at 3.7GHz, I'd say you are actually CPU limited.

Thanks for your suggestion CryptiK.That's interesting I'll try to test it.... and for right now I still can't get pass with "Blend" over 35 minutes...

and RADAJA that's great!! I'll try to follow your setting too.
I think may I'm stuck with my RAM (D9GMH 2x2 GB)

[GAR]

anyone get 500fsb with a Q9450, if so can you post your settings, thanks.

[RandomSuffix]

Can anyone say whether or not SpeedFan can control fans plugged in to the fan connectors on this board?

[Grnfinger]

Hey guys, here is where I am right now and have reached a stumbling block on moving forward. Any suggestions? I fail Prime95 "Blend" after several minutes beyond these settings. This is stable.


Those GSkills should do 1105MHz easy.
I'll post my GSKill timing for you.
Cryptik is right tho your cpu does seem to be at the end of its leash.
Try running small fft's with the ram dialed back to see if its the chip or not.

[DukeDaal]

Speaking of G skill, Will the maximus II formula support 8gb of gskill 1066 memory? Thats 2 4 GB (2 x 2GB) kits. 4 dimms

Just running them at 1066?

[gotsoul]

Hi guys! Just needed some help on how to OC my rig. Can you guys show me some templates of how I should set my bios to OC? I have a bios 0901 version. Will it be better to update it to the latest bios 1307? I was also planning on doing that before I set my bios settings. I am planning to put another set of 4Gb (2Gbx2) RAM (Total of 8GB RAM). Will this be an issue or will it better to OC it on 4GB RAM total? Thanks for your patience guys! :D

[bito]

What sort of VTT and VNB should these boards need with a Q6600 @ 333 FSB?
Thanks

[Nunzi]

8 gigs works fine 450 -475 fsb is what im able to hit. you could probable do better with 4gigs

[KURTZ]

hi folks! i'm interested in this mobo, but i wanna know only few things, what's the max fsb that this mobo allows under air cooling? the strap 266 runs correctly?, someone had tested it with the Cell's PC8000 cl.4?

TIA and bye!

[CryptiK]

@cryptik heres my settings. mem timings are all auto. i did an os switch from vista64 to 32-xp,check out my +12v now they never were that high before. whats the best volts for this speed(ram).thankyou

That does look better, what does bios say your 12v line is at? I think no more than 2.1v for those G.Skills, Grnfinger would probably be the best to answer that, however 2.0v is fine 24/7 for where you're at now, you may even be able to go a little higher. Try setting at least the first set of ram timings manually - try 5-5-5-15-5-55-8-5. Advancing the ram skews to around 250ps can also help get stability at higher speeds.


Thanks for your suggestion CryptiK.That's interesting I'll try to test it.... and for right now I still can't get pass with "Blend" over 35 minutes...

and RADAJA that's great!! I'll try to follow your setting too.
I think may I'm stuck with my RAM (D9GMH 2x2 GB)

If your ram is 2 x 2GB, they won't be D9 GMH, they will be 128M x 16 per ram module to give 2GB, micron D9 is 64M x 16 giving 1GB per module.


Can anyone say whether or not SpeedFan can control fans plugged in to the fan connectors on this board?

No idea, if you need to have some control, try the fan speed control in bios if you haven't already, it is reasonably flexible.


anyone get 500fsb with a Q9450, if so can you post your settings, thanks.

If your CPU will do it, it will take perhaps ~1.40 - 1.45v vNB to get 500 FSB stable. Depends somewhat on how much ram you will be running, more ram needs higher vNB.


Speaking of G skill, Will the maximus II formula support 8gb of gskill 1066 memory? Thats 2 4 GB (2 x 2GB) kits. 4 dimms

Just running them at 1066?

The P45 series is supposed to support 16GB, so 8GB should be fine, you will need a higher vNB (~1.4v) perhaps more to get it stable. Also a tRFC of 55 or 60 will be required as they are 2GB modules.


Hi guys! Just needed some help on how to OC my rig. Can you guys show me some templates of how I should set my bios to OC? I have a bios 0901 version. Will it be better to update it to the latest bios 1307? I was also planning on doing that before I set my bios settings. I am planning to put another set of 4Gb (2Gbx2) RAM (Total of 8GB RAM). Will this be an issue or will it better to OC it on 4GB RAM total? Thanks for your patience guys! :D

Try my template I gave you but since you have a 9550, try first 424 FSB, 8.5x MP and use 1.35 vNB, 1.25 vFSB :up: The template I sent you is for an e8400. 4GB ram will be easier to overclock, but to compensate with 8GB, increase the vNB a few notches. I would recommend upgrading to 1307 BIOS, it has been the best one for me.


What sort of VTT and VNB should these boards need with a Q6600 @ 333 FSB?
Thanks

Start with 1.25v vFSB, 1.35v vNB that should be fine.


hi folks! i'm interested in this mobo, but i wanna know only few things, what's the max fsb that this mobo allows under air cooling? the strap 266 runs correctly?, someone had tested it with the Cell's PC8000 cl.4?

TIA and bye!

Max totally stable FSB I can hit is 534 FSB, but up to ~555 FSB stable should be doable if you CPU can be stable at that FSB. When I say stable I mean Orthos, Linpack gaming etc stable ie: totally rock stable.

My CellShock 8000 CL4 kits (GKX) and my TeamGroup 8500's (GMH) go very well on this board.

[radaja]

@cryptik these are the new cellshock that you linked me to that im using

[CryptiK]

Ah ok, well 1.96v is enough for mine to do 1113 MHz 5-5-5-12-3-30-6-3 and the rest on auto. I can get 1200 stable on 2.1v load. Try to not exceed 2.1v for 24/7 use and cool them with a fan too.

[radaja]

@cryptik, thanks ill give it a try

[KURTZ]

thx Cryptik, i've also saw an interesting result by angkies ... 580fsb and also 600fsb on air cooling ... really impressive!

what are the angkies' settings?

[CryptiK]

Not sure TBH, but Solarfall hit 607 FSB bench stable, and was using ~ 1.3v vFSB and ~1.38v vNB. For total stability though I'd say closer to 1.5v vNB would be needed for 600 FSB. I have seen a M2F hit 670 FSB with the CPU on LN2 or DICE.

[radaja]

@cryptik, tried your settings and it failed to load windows.but any way heres mem settings on auto,i just upped fsb mem-5/6 pl8.icouldnt get it to boot with same fsb 5/6 w/g.skills.are ozc gold pc-8800 any good?http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq87/radajarocs/newone3.jpg

[RandomSuffix]

Thanks for the reply CryptiK, I've not actually got the board yet or I'd test myself. I'm just wondering if I'm going to have a decent amount of control over them from the board itself, or if I'm going to have to splash out on a controller.

[KURTZ]

Not sure TBH, but Solarfall hit 607 FSB bench stable, and was using ~ 1.3v vFSB and ~1.38v vNB. For total stability though I'd say closer to 1.5v vNB would be needed for 600 FSB. I have seen a M2F hit 670 FSB with the CPU on LN2 or DICE.

thx mate :) however i'm wondering about the voltages: 1.5 over the NB isn't too much? also what about the vFSB and PLL?

[Harsha]

Hi Cryptik,
Well this is the point I ask for help. I got a Q9550 E0 step (1.18xx VID), put it into the M2F and put in all 8GB (2GB x 4) Mushkin RAM (996580) onto the board with a vanilla 8800GT 512MB...powered up...and NO BOOT. Pulled out 2 sticks of RAM from the white sockets and it POSTED... :hitself:

I swapped the 2 sticks I pulled out into the blue sockets and posted again, so I guess all 4 sticks are alive... :rotf:

Vista 64 SP1 loaded onto the 300GB Velociraptor in less than 20 mins :shocked:

Now could you point me in the direction to my settings; I know you probably have given them before to someone else to get up and running with 8GB of DDR2 but I've started to trawl through from page 1. I'm not sure if I should be trying to get my OC up before getting the 8Gb stable or try to get the CPU up to speed and then add the other 4GB. Any advice at all would be welcome :bows:

[Guacamole]

Okay Cryptik I have spent the last 3 hours reading all of the posts and I was just wondering if you can post some 24/7 settings of your rock solid E8400 OC??

I mean with the best acceptable bandwith and processor OC around 4.0...

I am running E8400 CO with (4X1GB) Crucial 1066 D9 and I am plugging in all these settings I can make it into the OS prime for awhile but when I reboot my computer shuts down and hangs....

I was just thinking you have some settings I could plugin and give it a run I saw the posts from earlier page 43 and I can run that set up fine but as soon as I introduce any memory performance I hang or have to reset the CMOS...

Thanks or any settings you might have.....

P.S. Forget my signature this is my back up rig I am referring to Asus Maximus II Formula, E8400, D9 Crucial 1066

[Guacamole]

Hey guys, here is where I am right now and have reached a stumbling block on moving forward. Any suggestions? I fail Prime95 "Blend" after several minutes beyond these settings. This is stable.




Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 460
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1105MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 300ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto







3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: Auto
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Stronger
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 8
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 101

CPU Voltage: 1.4250
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.33850
DRAM Voltage: 2.14450
North Bridge Voltage: 1.39150
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): +20mv
CPU GTL Reference (1):-15mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): +20mv
CPU GTL Reference (3): -15mv
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto









CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled





Thanks alot these settings have helped me a bunch I really appreciate all the input...:up::up:

[KURTZ]

@ Cryptik (and others) just few questions:

1) what's the max voltage that i can give to the NB without any trouble for the mobo?
2) same question for the PLL

thx

[Grnfinger]

Hey guys, here is where I am right now and have reached a stumbling block on moving forward. Any suggestions? I fail Prime95 "Blend" after several minutes beyond these settings. This is stable.



This should get those G.Skills beyond 1105MHz with decent bandwidth.
Dont be affraid to take them to 2.20 volts, they can handle it with decent cooling.
Almost have 1200MHz stable, will post my final settings for that once it settles down


Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 350ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 350ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 65
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 10
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 16
Read to PRE Delay : 6
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

[electricl]

Thanks Grin for the suggestions, my system is now stable and Ive got some decent bandwidth.
Do you think its possible to do 4GHz? Everyting Ive tried so far failed prime/intelburn within seconds.

[Grnfinger]

Thanks Grin for the suggestions, my system is now stable and Ive got some decent bandwidth.
Do you think its possible to do 4GHz? Everyting Ive tried so far failed prime/intelburn within seconds.

4.0GHz is doable if your cooling is decent, hang on and I'll dig up and post my 4.0GHz settings.

[SiGfever]

Thanks alot these settings have helped me a bunch I really appreciate all the input...:up::up:

Thanks should go to Grnfinger, Cryptik, and Nemesis for those settings. :up:

[Grnfinger]

Thanks Grin for the suggestions, my system is now stable and Ive got some decent bandwidth.
Do you think its possible to do 4GHz? Everyting Ive tried so far failed prime/intelburn within seconds.

here try this for a start.

3.9GHz

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 459
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1103
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 300ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Advanced 300ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 300ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Advanced 300ps


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : AUTO
MEM OC Charger : AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 101

CPU Voltage : 1.3875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.53975
FSBT : 1.33850
DRAM Voltage : 2.1
North Bridge Voltage : 1.39150
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : +30mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +30mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/3900_MIIF.jpg

4.0GHz

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1132
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 350ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 350ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 65
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 10
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 16
Read to PRE Delay : 6
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 101

CPU Voltage : 1.4375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.57950
FSBT : 1.36500
DRAM Voltage : 2.19750
North Bridge Voltage : 1.43125
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 2 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/MII_4GHZ.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/10loop_40_stable_1130.jpg

[CryptiK]

@cryptik, tried your settings and it failed to load windows.but any way heres mem settings on auto,i just upped fsb mem-5/6 pl8.icouldnt get it to boot with same fsb 5/6 w/g.skills.are ozc gold pc-8800 any good?

Perhaps you need more vNB to get my timings stable, the tighter the ram timings the harder it is for the MCH and the more vNB you need. Try 5-5-5-15-3-45-6-3 @ 2.01XXX vDimm. Personally I don't like OCZ memory, there's always a better option, like G.Skill, Mushkin, even Corsair.


Thanks for the reply CryptiK, I've not actually got the board yet or I'd test myself. I'm just wondering if I'm going to have a decent amount of control over them from the board itself, or if I'm going to have to splash out on a controller.

Try first before you buy a controller, I don't have a need for one, I just use BIOS to control chassis and ram fans, and I use an Antec TriCool 140mm blowhole and 120mm CPU fan.


thx mate :) however i'm wondering about the voltages: 1.5 over the NB isn't too much? also what about the vFSB and PLL?

I used to be very gentle with motherboards until I had my P5B vanilla, I vMCH modded it and ran 1.45v 24/7 through it for 1 year+ and it was fine. Personally I wouldn't hesitate to use 1.4v 24/7 on a P45, 1.5v is about the highest I'd go with vNB on stock cooling. vFSB max is 1.26v, vPLL max is 1.575v, above that is beyond Intel spec and it becomes a guessing game of balancing risk with performance.


Hi Cryptik,
Well this is the point I ask for help. I got a Q9550 E0 step (1.18xx VID), put it into the M2F and put in all 8GB (2GB x 4) Mushkin RAM (996580) onto the board with a vanilla 8800GT 512MB...powered up...and NO BOOT. Pulled out 2 sticks of RAM from the white sockets and it POSTED... :hitself:

I swapped the 2 sticks I pulled out into the blue sockets and posted again, so I guess all 4 sticks are alive... :rotf:

Vista 64 SP1 loaded onto the 300GB Velociraptor in less than 20 mins :shocked:

Now could you point me in the direction to my settings; I know you probably have given them before to someone else to get up and running with 8GB of DDR2 but I've started to trawl through from page 1. I'm not sure if I should be trying to get my OC up before getting the 8Gb stable or try to get the CPU up to speed and then add the other 4GB. Any advice at all would be welcome :bows:

Have a look at Grnfingers settings for 4GB, then increase vNB about 0.06v and try again, you may need about 1.4v vNB to get 8GB stable. You may also need to loosen up a lot of your secondary timings to get stability.


Okay Cryptik I have spent the last 3 hours reading all of the posts and I was just wondering if you can post some 24/7 settings of your rock solid E8400 OC??

I mean with the best acceptable bandwith and processor OC around 4.0...

I am running E8400 CO with (4X1GB) Crucial 1066 D9 and I am plugging in all these settings I can make it into the OS prime for awhile but when I reboot my computer shuts down and hangs....

I was just thinking you have some settings I could plugin and give it a run I saw the posts from earlier page 43 and I can run that set up fine but as soon as I introduce any memory performance I hang or have to reset the CMOS...

Thanks or any settings you might have.....

P.S. Forget my signature this is my back up rig I am referring to Asus Maximus II Formula, E8400, D9 Crucial 1066

Here is my totally stable 4 GHz overclock using C0 e8400 with ram/NB settings yielding highest bandwidth & lowest latency. Also make sure to never have a larger gap than 0.11v between vFSB and vNB, or it will hang on reboot with a cleared CMOS, so if you set 1.2v vFSB do not set more than 1.31v vNB.



Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 445
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1116
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.34375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5000
FSBT : 1.16XXX
DRAM Voltage : 2.01XXX
North Bridge Voltage : 1.27XXX
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : +30mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : -10mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : +30mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : -10mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled




@ Cryptik (and others) just few questions:

1) what's the max voltage that i can give to the NB without any trouble for the mobo?
2) same question for the PLL

thx

I think 1.40v vNB should be fine 24/7 just watch your NB temps.

vPLL should be fine up to 1.8v or more without damaging the mobo, however that is not good for the CPU, keep it under 1.6v at all times.

[Guacamole]

Thanks Guys this is an awesome thread everyone is very very helpful...:clap::clap:

[radaja]

@cryptik, i finally got the timings you gave to work for me. this is the best ive been able to get so far.now that im on xp notice im able to up vnb more, thanks for all your help. much appreciated. http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq87/radajarocs/34.jpg http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq87/radajarocs/best.png

[radaja]

sorry for the double post,but here are my bios settingsAi Overclock Tuner: Manual

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 458
CPU Clock Skew: normal
NB Clock Skew: normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1100
DRAM Timing Control: manual
5-5-5-12-3-30-6-3 rest auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disable
MEM. OC Charger: enabled
Ai Clock Twister: moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: manual

PCIE Frequency: 100
CPU Voltage: 1.425
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.5
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.16625
DRAM Voltage: 2.01200
North Bridge Voltage: 1.25900
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.5
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.1
CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

Load-Line Calibration: disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
___

[CryptiK]

@cryptik, i finally got the timings you gave to work for me. this is the best ive been able to get so far.now that im on xp notice im able to up vnb more, thanks for all your help. much appreciated.

Good work mate, and no problem at all I'm happy to give my humble opinion, looks like you have a nice cpu there too, I only have a C0 and it's no fun by comparison.

[KURTZ]

I used to be very gentle with motherboards until I had my P5B vanilla, I vMCH modded it and ran 1.45v 24/7 through it for 1 year+ and it was fine. Personally I wouldn't hesitate to use 1.4v 24/7 on a P45, 1.5v is about the highest I'd go with vNB on stock cooling. vFSB max is 1.26v, vPLL max is 1.575v, above that is beyond Intel spec and it becomes a guessing game of balancing risk with performance.


I think 1.40v vNB should be fine 24/7 just watch your NB temps.

vPLL should be fine up to 1.8v or more without damaging the mobo, however that is not good for the CPU, keep it under 1.6v at all times.

thx mate :)

[Harsha]

Hi all,
I seem to have come upon an anomaly; just trying to get my 8GB recognized I noticed in the BIOS my NB temps were going into the +70C region
which scared me. I was getting into the BIOS or Vista and then the keyboard or mouse would just freeze. To try and help the temps on the NB I lowered my voltages downward in incremental stages till I hit 1.1V(the lowest it can go). The machine now boots up with no freezes and I'm running a test on idle to check baseline stability @ 2.83GHz. Everest Ultimate is reporting 51C NB and 43C SB on idle, are the temps good or bad for Air and more importantly how long to check stability @ 2.83 before trying to bump up the speed. My worry is that running 8GB of DDR2 6400, I might need to be weary of the slower RAM. Any help with getting the slower RAM timings would be appreciated.

[CryptiK]

You most likely have a badly seated northbridge heatsink - it is a common problem with these boards. You can try pulling out the board and tightening the screws that hold the NB heatsink on (right behind the NB) and if they are loose, that may take care of it. However if they are quite tight, you may need to remove the whole heatpipe setup, remove the 2 little washers that stop the NB heatsink sitting up hard against the NB IHS, and re-do the TIM and put it all back together. Google search it, there's some images I found that show the washers to remove.

I'm thinking of doing it just in case I can improve on my NB temps through doing so. I max out at 51*C on the NB with 1.27v using 2 instances of windows memtest each running 890MB of ram. This app gets the NB hotter than orthos, linpack or gaming.

[64dragon]

Hi all,
I seem to have come upon an anomaly; just trying to get my 8GB recognized I noticed in the BIOS my NB temps were going into the +70C region
which scared me. I was getting into the BIOS or Vista and then the keyboard or mouse would just freeze. To try and help the temps on the NB I lowered my voltages downward in incremental stages till I hit 1.1V(the lowest it can go). The machine now boots up with no freezes and I'm running a test on idle to check baseline stability @ 2.83GHz. Everest Ultimate is reporting 51C NB and 43C SB on idle, are the temps good or bad for Air and more importantly how long to check stability @ 2.83 before trying to bump up the speed. My worry is that running 8GB of DDR2 6400, I might need to be weary of the slower RAM. Any help with getting the slower RAM timings would be appreciated.

pull off the heatpipe assembly and redo the thermal paste with something non-conductive. also, add a washer to the back side of the board on the 2 screws for the nb. a fair amount of these boards have this issue.

edit: i'm too slow, cryptik beat me to it

[Harsha]

@Cryptik & 64DRAGON,
Sounds like a plan...thanks guys, I'll pick up some AS-Ceramique or Shin Etsu tomorrow and re-seat the NB heatsink and see if the temps get better.

Any ideas on the OC potential of my RAM (8GB Mushkin DDR2 800 6400)..? At the moment I've got it running at 5.5.5.15 2T @400.8 MHz on 5:6, The timings seem to be twitchy and having tried some of the timings I've seen other people use I don't get a boot.

[gotsoul]

Try my template I gave you but since you have a 9550, try first 424 FSB, 8.5x MP and use 1.35 vNB, 1.25 vFSB The template I sent you is for an e8400. 4GB ram will be easier to overclock, but to compensate with 8GB, increase the vNB a few notches. I would recommend upgrading to 1307 BIOS, it has been the best one for me.

@CryptiK

I will try those settings you gave me. I just don't exactly where to start. Hehe! Wish me luck! Thanks again for you help! :D :up:

[Ender3rd]

@Cryptik & 64DRAGON,
Sounds like a plan...thanks guys, I'll pick up some AS-Ceramique or Shin Etsu tomorrow and re-seat the NB heatsink and see if the temps get better.


Harsha,

I think you will find the NB heatsink advice here is right on target. You have to remove the whole heatsink/heatpipe assembly to resolve the problem. Not a big deal, just remove all the spring-loaded screws (12 of them I believe) on the underside of the MB.

I would second Cryptik's advice :up: regarding the two little fiber washers that are glued to the bottom of the screw posts on the heatsink/heatpipe assembly. These are the posts that straddle the NB chipset. In many cases, the little washers prevent the heatsink from making physical contact with the chipset no matter how much you tighten the spring-loaded screws under the MB. In my case, the only contact was through a blob of dubious looking thermal paste even with additional washers added under the spring-loaded screws underneath the board.

Removing those washers on the heatsink posts, cleaning off the factory applied goop, and using a thin layer of Ceramique, then tightening down the whole heatsink/heatpipe assembly adequately, dropped my NB temps from the 60c idle 77c load temp range to a much healthier 32c idle and 44c load range.

It will behave much better for you then!

Ender

[Devious]

quick question without reading all of the thread. I have a Q9650 and need stable FSB, is this better than the P5Q delux ?

[BuGjAE]

Thanks for every useful answer for this thread especially CryptiK .I just have got a stable point for 4335 mhz:) and I 'll testing to reduce some vNB and vFSB

[CryptiK]

@CryptiK

I will try those settings you gave me. I just don't exactly where to start. Hehe! Wish me luck! Thanks again for you help! :D :up:

Just start by choosing the lowest possible ram speed as I suggested, set everything as I gave in the template except for these settings: 424 FSB, 8.5x MP, 1.35 vNB, 1.25 vFSB and go from there :up: If you have more questions don't hesitate to ask.


quick question without reading all of the thread. I have a Q9650 and need stable FSB, is this better than the P5Q delux ?

Another guy got 475 FSB stable, but I think there is more in this board than that. If the CPU can do it, 500 - 520 FSB should be doable on this board IMO.


Thanks for every useful answer for this thread especially CryptiK .I just have got a stable point for 4335 mhz:) and I 'll testing to reduce some vNB and vFSB

Nice clock, good work there :up: You should be able to pull vFSB down to about 1.25v, not sure how much lower on vNB you could go, depends on your particular board and your ram configuration, you're probably about spot on with it actually for 4GB 1:1 at 510 MHz and 510 FSB. Are you running PL 10?

[radaja]

well it looks like all my tweaking is starting to pay off. do you think its safe to run it like this 24/7?http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq87/radajarocs/superstable1.jpg

[BuGjAE]

@radaja. OH I think your clock setting ,temp, voltage is very well fine.
And I try to follow you ,radaja. Reduce vNB and vFSB from auto setting
and here is my result.:up:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 510
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1022
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advance 300 ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advance 300 ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Lighter
Transaction Booster : Auto


PCIE Frequency : 104

CPU Voltage : 1.33125
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5000
FSBT : 1.15300
DRAM Voltage : 2.2240
North Bridge Voltage : 1.20xxx
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference 1 : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference 2 : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference 3 : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[radaja]

@bugjae, that looks great.your clocks keep getting better and better. i wish i could get my cpu up to 4300. highest ive gotten is 4221 and very unstable. fails prime within 1 minute.for some reason im stuck having to use these low volts. my setup is very very very picky. i cant raise vfsb higher than 1.2,vnb 1.24 or no boot /prime fails within 1 second. its frustrating seeing everyone post with high clocks and high volts to get ther (vnb 1.26-1.36.so im kind of limited. im going to give your settings a try (seeing that your volts are within my boards range) ive had no luck with 500 fsb.wish me luck

[moogle]

Hi all,

I've just got my 4GHz test stable, only problem now is my ram doesn't seem to want to overclock at all. I've got 8GB of Mushkin Ascent 1066 and at my chosen FSB's 475 or 471 (1153 and 1133 respsectively) the ram just doesn't want to budge. Now this is the first time I've had Mushkin ram and I'm thinking it's just the ram that doesn't want to budge. Before with 4 x 1GB sticks if I couldn't go up in speed I'd accept the lower speed BUT have it at 4-4-4-12 but this ram doesn't seem to want to do that either (presumably because it's 2GB sticks). I've been told by Greg at Mushkin that it could be the bios that is not incompatible but makes the ram a real :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: to work with. Can a bios really affect that? I've got the latest bios for this board (1307) but what versions have you guys got and if anyone has the same ram or same amount with this board what bios version have you got?

Thanks

PS - Weird things I've noticed about the board. Won't do 500FSB but will do 499 but still unstable though. Could be my bios and possibly CPU though.

[CryptiK]

well it looks like all my tweaking is starting to pay off. do you think its safe to run it like this 24/7?

Looks great for 24/7, nice work. Please test large FFT and use Windows memtest to test for ram/NB errors to make sure it's stable. You should be able to set Clock Twister to 'moderate' if it's not already, although since you can't raise vNB without issues maybe it won't be stable.


@radaja. OH I think your clock setting ,temp, voltage is very well fine.
And I try to follow you ,radaja. Reduce vNB and vFSB from auto setting
and here is my result.:up:

Looks good too, nice work. You also need to use Orthos blend and Windows Memtest to look for errors.

Also try setting transaction booster to manual and choosing PL 10, and setting Clock twister to 'moderate' it should give you a bandwidth boost. This will most likely require more vNB.


Hi all,

I've just got my 4GHz test stable, only problem now is my ram doesn't seem to want to overclock at all. I've got 8GB of Mushkin Ascent 1066 and at my chosen FSB's 475 or 471 (1153 and 1133 respsectively) the ram just doesn't want to budge. Now this is the first time I've had Mushkin ram and I'm thinking it's just the ram that doesn't want to budge. Before with 4 x 1GB sticks if I couldn't go up in speed I'd accept the lower speed BUT have it at 4-4-4-12 but this ram doesn't seem to want to do that either (presumably because it's 2GB sticks). I've been told by Greg at Mushkin that it could be the bios that is not incompatible but makes the ram a real :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: to work with. Can a bios really affect that? I've got the latest bios for this board (1307) but what versions have you guys got and if anyone has the same ram or same amount with this board what bios version have you got?

Thanks

PS - Weird things I've noticed about the board. Won't do 500FSB but will do 499 but still unstable though. Could be my bios and possibly CPU though.

From what Ive read, those sticks tend to top out around 1140, so your getting toward their max if you're not already there. What vNB does it take to get the 8GB stable at ~1133? What PL are you using? I'd recommend using BIOS 1307 it has the most memory compatibility and is stable.

[Harsha]

Hi guys,
Well I got some Shin-Etsu X23 and did the complete clean-up and removal of TIM on the heat pipe assembly. Just because I was playing with the MB out of the case I re-applied TIM to the CPU as well.

WOW....talk about a temp drop. :eek2: The NB has gone from 52*C idle to 35*C.

The SB is at 43*C so I'm assuming that I need to take it out again and be more careful with the TIM on the SB this time as well. Just to show you my ignorance (...not too hard really :D ), I used silicone washers for the NB instead of metal ones. Will that be a problem because of heat transference from the NB when I start OC this machine..?

[CryptiK]

Good work, I'm glad that was the problem. That temp is much better, and better than mine, my board idles at 38*C and typical max load temp (orthos/gaming) is ~47*C and my ambients are around 20*C.

The washers you used will be fine, don't worry.

[moogle]

From what Ive read, those sticks tend to top out around 1140, so your getting toward their max if you're not already there. What vNB does it take to get the 8GB stable at ~1133? What PL are you using? I'd recommend using BIOS 1307 it has the most memory compatibility and is stable.

It doesn't even go stable at 1133 :(
I've tried up to PL 14 and 1.55NB 1.38VTT. I see everyone easily reaching the 1133 speed and up but they only have 2 x 2GB so I'm thinking it's because I got 4 sticks it's the problem.

I'm currently at 951 5-5-5-15 PL10. I can't have the ram performance setting on Light it must be on Lighter to pass memtest.

Do you think I should stick my Crucial Ballistix 8500's in here and try for higher speeds? They could do 1066 4-4-4-12.

[SiGfever]

Question for you guys. If you were getting a chip with a very high multi do you think the Rampage Formula would be a better choice than my Maximus II Formula?

[radaja]

@cryptik, ive only used memtest a couple of times so i have a few questions. first do i run while overclocked w/ these setting? second, do i just let it run after booting from cd or do i pick specific test to be run? thanks again for your help.

[64dragon]

Hi guys,
Well I got some Shin-Etsu X23 and did the complete clean-up and removal of TIM on the heat pipe assembly. Just because I was playing with the MB out of the case I re-applied TIM to the CPU as well.

WOW....talk about a temp drop. :eek2: The NB has gone from 52*C idle to 35*C.

The SB is at 43*C so I'm assuming that I need to take it out again and be more careful with the TIM on the SB this time as well. Just to show you my ignorance (...not too hard really :D ), I used silicone washers for the NB instead of metal ones. Will that be a problem because of heat transference from the NB when I start OC this machine..?

good to hear about the nb temp drop. i wouldn't worry about the sb, mines the same way, currently nb is 38C and sb 42C. i think its just the nature of the chip, (all voltages listed at stock) the sb is getting 2 voltages, 1.1v and 1.5v where as the nb only has the 1.1v

[CryptiK]

It doesn't even go stable at 1133 :(
I've tried up to PL 14 and 1.55NB 1.38VTT. I see everyone easily reaching the 1133 speed and up but they only have 2 x 2GB so I'm thinking it's because I got 4 sticks it's the problem.

I'm currently at 951 5-5-5-15 PL10. I can't have the ram performance setting on Light it must be on Lighter to pass memtest.

Do you think I should stick my Crucial Ballistix 8500's in here and try for higher speeds? They could do 1066 4-4-4-12.

Every set will be different, however as you said it can't be set to light it seems to be you NB at it's limit. 4 2GB sticks would really be loading it up. If you need 8GB, use it, but if 4 GB is enough you may be better off using it at a higher speed (1100 - 1150) if the sticks will do it. What speeds can you get with only 4 GB installed?


Question for you guys. If you were getting a chip with a very high multi do you think the Rampage Formula would be a better choice than my Maximus II Formula?

Yes and no. It is a different chipset and is more efficient than a P45 but the board is apparently less conducive to overclocking especially quads (which I assume is why you specifically said a high MP cpu). I don't know a lot about the rampage formula specifically though. The real world gains of the X48's efficiency are IMO minor compared to a P45. The only real thing the X48 is much better for is DDR3 overclocking and crossfire setups, from what I have seen the P45 is just too weak to clock DDR3 very well, although I must say the Gigabyte P45 DDR3 board is pretty damn impressive.


@cryptik, ive only used memtest a couple of times so i have a few questions. first do i run while overclocked w/ these setting? second, do i just let it run after booting from cd or do i pick specific test to be run? thanks again for your help.

Yes run it overclocked, I like to let it run through a few loops of all the tests, then I select test 5 and let it do perhaps 30 loops.

I recently found out though that the memtest application that you run in windows is actually harder on the ram & NB than DOS memtest, orthos or linpack. Memtest 3.2 I think it's called.

[Shiranui Gen-An]

Bah, I'm beginning to think my E6300 just can't do 500FSB after trying on three different platforms (Asus 965P, DFI P35, Asus P45 Maximus II Formula). But hey, at least I can run my Dominator 10000 kit on my M2F at DDR2-1200 with only 2.05V. Not much consolation...I think I'll grab an E8400.

[Grnfinger]

Yes and no. It is a different chipset and is more efficient than a P45 but the board is apparently less conducive to overclocking especially quads (which I assume is why you specifically said a high MP cpu). I don't know a lot about the rampage formula specifically though. The real world gains of the X48's efficiency are IMO minor compared to a P45. The only real thing the X48 is much better for is DDR3 overclocking and crossfire setups, from what I have seen the P45 is just too weak to clock DDR3 very well, although I must say the Gigabyte P45 DDR3 board is pretty damn impressive.





Ummm no.

Rampage will out perform the MIIF hands down, It overclocks quads just fine
Not many boards will run 500FSB on a 65nm quad, Rampage will.
Rampage offers better bandwidth and is a superior platform.
High FSB is not an issue on X48
I have a Rampage comming to play with , my first one arrived DOA and the online stock is zero. Once my board is sent out I can confirm all this.
My MIIF is gone to ebay once the X48 arrives.
And Rampage Formula is DDR2 not DDR3, Rampage Xtreme is DDR3


Question for you guys. If you were getting a chip with a very high multi do you think the Rampage Formula would be a better choice than my Maximus II Formula?

Definately

[Hazzan]

I trying this board on weekend....some problem on HOT Chipset Temperatur....I replace with MX2 thermalpasta...so I can reach FSB 615 but not stable yet !!

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2148/60969205pl9.jpg

[CryptiK]

Ummm no.

Rampage will out perform the MIIF hands down, It overclocks quads just fine
Not many boards will run 500FSB on a 65nm quad, Rampage will.
Rampage offers better bandwidth and is a superior platform.
High FSB is not an issue on X48
I have a Rampage comming to play with , my first one arrived DOA and the online stock is zero. Once my board is sent out I can confirm all this.
My MIIF is gone to ebay once the X48 arrives.
And Rampage Formula is DDR2 not DDR3, Rampage Xtreme is DDR3

Really, they are that good? Thanks for the insight, I have not used one, but wasn't convinced that the real world performance would be noticeably better than a P45 at exactly the same settings. I know the Formula is the DDR2 version, and that they have very similar efficiency to the X38, I'd just heard they weren't so good for high FSB and quads, unlike the Rampage Extreme, which is very good for high FSB and quads.

I'd like to see a side by side X48 vs P45 comparison when you get your board if that is possible.

[radaja]

well, i decided to see how low i could lower all my voltages and see iff i could drop my temps. this is what i got so farhttp://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq87/radajarocs/lowvolts3.jpghttp://i436.photobucket.com/albums/qq87/radajarocs/cachemem3.png

[Gunnz Akimbo]

Whats the Raid controller like.

Im thinking of getting 2 150GB V-Raptors and using the Speeding HDD controller.

[genec57]

The ICH10 controller is a bit faster and, unlike the Speeding HD, will be upgraded from time to time.

[ATLNY]

It only works in 2:1 mode
I can't get it to work with my 5:1 set up

[screwtech02]

You using the latest drivers??? Runnin 5.1 fine here.....:cool:

[ATLNY]

You using the latest drivers??? Runnin 5.1 fine here.....:cool:

using drivers that came with MB

[GAR]

anyone have any good settings for memory performance for the g.skill 4gb 1066 memory??? im running 1037 bios, cpu at 3.8ghz, memory at 475 (5-5-5-15) timings. FSB is at 475, system is nice and stable, if anyone has good settings fot this set of memory please post, thanks.

[cstkl1]

Proc : E8600 @ 4.264ghz 533x8
Mobo : Asus Maximus 2 Formula
Ram : Team Xtreem PC2-6400 CL3's 2x1gb : 5-5-5-15 tRD 10 2.2v
PSU : Silverstone OP1000
OS :Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit


(Setting works for 4x1gb also.. didnt post cause rmaed one stick after running 1066 CL4 tRD 9 2.35v for nearly 2-3 months)


http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/cstkl1/Untitled2-1.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/cstkl1/Untitled-21.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll142/cstkl1/Untitled3-1.jpg

Always test in diagnostic mode on vista 64 and u will be able to use all the free rams as much as u want and disable prefetch also..



Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 533
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1068
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 25
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : Enabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual
Performance Level = 10

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.325
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5000
FSBT : 1.16300
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
North Bridge Voltage : 1.32
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference 1 : - 35mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference 3 : - 35mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[KURTZ]

I trying this board on weekend....some problem on HOT Chipset Temperatur....I replace with MX2 thermalpasta...so I can reach FSB 615 but not stable yet !!

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2148/60969205pl9.jpg

what are your settings? :p

[radaja]

has anyone experenced there pullins channels A-4/A-5-B-4/B-5 disappearing after changing settings in bios? sometimes after reboot they reappear,but most of the time need to reset cmos.

[Grnfinger]

has anyone experenced there pullins channels A-4/A-5-B-4/B-5 disappearing after changing settings in bios? sometimes after reboot they reappear,but most of the time need to reset cmos.

not for me, but I dont use them.
I'll try them enabled and see whats happens on a few reboots.

I found running them enabled did not benifit my setup

[radaja]

i always try to enable them cause it seems like increases my bandwidth as if i lowering about a half of a pl.(7.5) instead of 8.im starting the rma proccess,so i need to get a new board any recommendations? also thanks for your help w/this issue GrnFinger

[Grnfinger]

i always try to enable them cause it seems like increases my bandwidth as if i lowering about a half of a pl.(7.5) instead of 8.im starting the rma proccess,so i need to get a new board any recommendations? also thanks for your help w/this issue GrnFinger

I enabled all pull-ins
rebooted 15 times, they were there everytime.

Pull-ins disabled

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/test2_pullins.png


Pull-ins enabled

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/test3_pullins.png


As for motherboards if price is not a factor then Rampage X48 is what I would suggest.
But if you cross ship your RMA you will have a MIIF is under a week


anyone have any good settings for memory performance for the g.skill 4gb 1066 memory??? im running 1037 bios, cpu at 3.8ghz, memory at 475 (5-5-5-15) timings. FSB is at 475, system is nice and stable, if anyone has good settings fot this set of memory please post, thanks.

What kinda bandwidth are you getting now?
I have a decent setup for F2-8500CL5D

[GAR]

@ Grnfinger , IM getting 8700 read 10067 write and 9500 copy at 475fsb PL10, timings 5-5-5-15, everything else set to auto, thanks.

[Grnfinger]

@ Grnfinger , IM getting 8700 read 10067 write and 9500 copy at 475fsb PL10, timings 5-5-5-15, everything else set to auto, thanks.

Thats about the best I can do @ 1132MHz
have you tried a lower PL?
I'm running PL8 but my timings are rather relaxed to get them stable

FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1132
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 350ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 350ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 65
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 10
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 16
Read to PRE Delay : 6
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

I do get better bandwidth at 1100 but there is a difference in timing

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/3900_everst.png

FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1103
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 300ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 300ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : AUTO
MEM OC Charger : AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

[GAR]

Thanks bro, i appreciate it, ill try those settings when i get home. I have tried a lower PL, but it wont boot. The lowest i can go on 475fsb seems to be PL 10.

[WaterFlex]

Nice setup, Grnfinger

[radaja]

@GrnFinger are you talking about the rampage extreme or the regular rampage?

[Grnfinger]

@GrnFinger are you talking about the rampage extreme or the regular rampage?

Regular DDR2 X48 board
extreme would be nice but I'm not prepared to sell my kidney just yet:ROTF:

[e.v.o]

Hi,
really nice thread. Looks good :up:

Anyone has a MIIF with P45 rev. A3?

[WhiteFireDragon]

does anyone know if a Sunbeam core-contact freezer HSF will fit this? the black retension brackets looks like it would hit the left and top mosfet sinks.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/sunbeamCCF_all.jpg

[al-]

Has anyone pushed Corsair PC2-8500C5DF past 2.1v?

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/bubba9191/cachemem.png

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/bubba9191/asus1f.jpg

Maximus II Formula | XPPro/32 | Antec900 | Yate Loon 120mm/2200RPM X3 (2 Front Fans & 1 Exhaust Fan) | E8400 | Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme/Scythe S-Flex SFF21F | Corsair Dominator 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-8500C5DF | WD RaptorX 150GB | Visiontek HD4870 | Lite-On 20X DVD+/-R | Scythe Kaze Master | Sytrin SHF1 Ultra HDD Cooler | Corsair TX750 Watts

[Grnfinger]

Has anyone pushed Corsair PC2-8500C5DF past 2.1v?



I have run my ver 1.2 Dominators at 2.2 volts for months with no problems

[64dragon]

does anyone know if a Sunbeam core-contact freezer HSF will fit this? the black retension brackets looks like it would hit the left and top mosfet sinks.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/WhiteFireDragon/sunbeamCCF_all.jpg

i dont know, dont have one but the bracket on my Ultima 90 hit the top sink so i couldn't mount horizontally but was able to mount vertical. so, it seems the top sink is a lil closer than the left one.

[hkrack]

Hi Guys,

I need help!!

My system not stable, after a while appears blue screen in the windows.

Do you have any clue about it? My computer is the signature. This configuration is stable's signature 24 / 7. Thank you in advance.
My configuration:



Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 475
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1141

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advance 250ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 250ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advance 250ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 250ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 9
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 101

CPU Voltage: 1.41 :(
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.33850
DRAM Voltage: 2.31
North Bridge Voltage: 1.33
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[TonyL222]

Based on info I gathered from following this thread, I have my Q6700 rock solid at 3720MHz (465x8). During 4 hours of OCCT and 2 hrs of Prime 95, max load temp on any core was 54c. However, I just feel I can go higher. I'm not even taking advantage of that x10 multiplier. 400x10 would seem like a natural. I've tried vcore at 1.5v and the memory at 1.9v (G.Skill stated max), but can't get stable beyond 3720MHz. I've been able to boot into windows Vista 64, but it quickly bombs out to a black screen and reboot. What other settings do I need to tinker with? what setting do I need to post for you to have a look at? 4000MHz would be nice. Thanks!!!

[Grnfinger]

Based on info I gathered from following this thread, I have my Q6700 rock solid at 3720MHz (465x8). During 4 hours of OCCT and 2 hrs of Prime 95, max load temp on any core ws 54c. However, I jest feel I can go higher. I'm not even taking advantage of that x10 multiplier. 400x10 would seem like a natural. I've tried vcore at 1.5v and the memory at 1.9v (G.Skill stated max), but can't get stable. Ive been able to boot into windows Vist 64, but it quickly bombs out to a black screen and reboot. What other settings do I need to tincekr with? what setting do I need to post for you to have a look at? 400MHz would be nice. Thanks!!!

higher FSB is faster I wouldnt use the 10 multi
9x450 would be a better setup imo and should be obtainable if your chip scales well.

[Lusken]

Hey! I'v just got my new Asus Maximus II Formula, Can som Post (Or Re-post) some picz of their Bios-settings?

I've got an E1200 celeron CPU (yeah, i know - it sucks :P). I have reaced 3.45 ghz (1.425 volt) already, but i want to get longer, and since i haven't change anything besides volt-settings, frequency, and disabled all that Eist-function :banana::banana::banana::banana:.

Someone?

[Lusken]

"Off course" am running my systems on Air, one Scythe Zipang, hopefully i will get True :)

So is it anyone that has dual-core CPU running on air.

[GAR]

anyone with a q9450 get above 488fsb???

[moogle]

If you guys don't know (I'm sure you do though :) ) there's a GTL thread on how to set them http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=3359012

What about the NB GTL refs and the DDR ChA and ChB and NB DDR refs? How do we set those. Why the hell is it so hard to find info on these things? I hate how the motherboard manual only states what options the setting can go to and not what the thing actually does.

[mikeyakame]

ddr refs are 0.5x Vdimm, offsetting those references is mainly useful to squeeze the last bit out of the sticks, or clean up a dirty signal at high frequencies. nb gtlref works the same way as cpu gtlref, it is based off Vtt but normally needs a smaller multiplier than its cpu counterpart.

[moogle]

Well I need to squeeze the last bit out of my sticks even though they aren't on their last bits. I've got a problem with 8GB of 2GB sticks where they won't overclock to 1130 even. Maybe a bad one out of the bunch or maybe together as 8GB they just are too much. Thanks again for the useful piece of info.

[CryptiK]

Allow the NB DDR ref and the DDR Ref ChA/B to simply scale up and down with vdimm (ie: leave them on auto), but you can increase them slightly to help clean up a dirty signal and as Mike said, squeeze the last out of them.

Have you tried using the ram skews and advancing the channels by 200 - 350ps? That should aid the ram stability and overclocking.

[moogle]

Have you tried using the ram skews and advancing the channels by 200 - 350ps? That should aid the ram stability and overclocking.

Alright I'll leave them on auto. I've tried ram skews but it still didn't help my stability with anything over 1066mhz
EDIT - I give up with these rams. Either one of them are busted or don't want to oc one bit or the board can't handle 8GB over 1066 even though it supports DDR2 1200 or just that these rams I have are crap.

[carepolice]

Alright I'll leave them on auto. I've tried ram skews but it still didn't help my stability with anything over 1066mhz
EDIT - I give up with these rams. Either one of them are busted or don't want to oc one bit or the board can't handle 8GB over 1066 even though it supports DDR2 1200 or just that these rams I have are crap.

I bet you have already tried higher NB values? :shrug:

[moogle]

I bet you have already tried higher NB values? :shrug:

Yeah....

Oh well I'm glad it performs over DDR 950 even though it's at that speed and PL10.

[CryptiK]

What do you mean by that exactly? if it's at 950, that's 950 performance you're seeing. Are you saying due to the higher FSB & 950 ram you get better performance than when running lower FSB and faster ram? If so that's to be expected, FSB has a large effect on bandwidth & latency.

[moogle]

What do you mean by that exactly? if it's at 950, that's 950 performance you're seeing. Are you saying due to the higher FSB & 950 ram you get better performance than when running lower FSB and faster ram? If so that's to be expected, FSB has a large effect on bandwidth & latency.

Yeap I'm seeing 8600 Read, 10000 Write and 9900 Copy in Everest. If I run it at 1140 unstable it doesn't give that much more performance.

[Guacamole]

A little off topic but is it true that this board only supports 8X8 PCIE 2.0 for crossfire??

Isn't that a severe limitation for a supposed ROG board I mean doesn't that severely limit the performance of the video cards?? Any one have any insight about this???

I am gravely concerned that when I plug another 4870 into the second slot I am going to get 8X8 which from my understanding is NOT GOOD???

[screwtech02]

Dude, your not gonna see the difference with your eyes, only in bench's, and then its slight....:cool:

[Guacamole]

Dude, your not gonna see the difference with your eyes, only in bench's, and then its slight....:cool:

Yeah I am just about to buy another card but I wanted to follow up I see that your running 2X3870's and are you happy with your performance from the crossfire???

[moogle]

Dude, your not gonna see the difference with your eyes, only in bench's, and then its slight....:cool:

Well you know everyone wants the best for what they pay for. Do we really know if it affects performance at higher res's or on more demanding games?

[BailA]

Hi,i use this settings for my Q9650.



Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 422
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1014Mhz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 300ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Auto
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 8
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Enabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Enabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Enabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Enabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Enabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Enabled

PCIE Frequency: 101

CPU Voltage: 1.25
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56625
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.1000
DRAM Voltage: 2.05
North Bridge Voltage: 1.1
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

What'is the optimal settings for the GTL?
Thank's :)

[Guacamole]

Well you know everyone wants the best for what they pay for. Do we really know if it affects performance at higher res's or on more demanding games?

Yeah I wonder how it affects things in real world performance I am currently reading some reviews and it seems that this is a benefit over the P35 but not full 16X PciE capabilities like an X38 and X48 board, which for the money we paid for this board seems kind of disheartening...

[screwtech02]

I actually got higher scores in 03mark with the P45 chipset, over the x38 with dual x16. Runnin a 26" Soyo monitor to game on, the 3870's are workin hard to push that res with all the eye candy turned on, but i play BF2 with everything maxed in CCC, with no issues....

Really happy with the board, just wish it had some better bandwidth with more than 2gb of memory....



http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=5951366

[Shiranui Gen-An]

This board seems to have great RAM clocking ability, I managed to get my Dominator 1250 kit to run 1200 4-4-4-12 with only 2.4V BIOS set. Another thing I like is that it doesn't overvolt VDDR by much, only about 0.01V checked with DMM.

[mcp]

Hello,

I've a problem. When I start my system it restarts three times and then after a short time it begins to boot. Then comes the post "A boot failure event happend on BIOS2". Does anyone know how I can solve the problem. It's very annoying to wait so long till the system is in Winodws. I hope you can help me.

[sunny7day]

I'm having problem booting P4 651 on this board, but no problem on Commando. Anyone can solve this problem?

[Gambit_2K]

I need som help, I've found that my tracers (new singlesided version 4*1 GB) won't do anything on my board. So wanna get some new ram preferable 2x2 GB that will do 1066 or even 1200. I can't even get my tracers stable at 1000.

Any recommendations? I don't wanna spend 1 week tweaking them just to get them stable. I just wanna put them in there and run them 1:1 with my FSB of 533 MHz. Cellshock? G. Skill? Apogee?

Oh my rig is a gamerig not much for benching.

I was thinking about:

http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_info.php?info=p8836_Apogee-4GB-Kit-DDR2-1150-GT-Serie.html

http://www.norskit.com/norskit/default.asp?PageNo=DEFAULT&DeepLink=%2CPA10000D%2C110063745%2C%2C

http://www.bestseller-computer.de/?ID=19125

http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a217247.html

[Leeghoofd]

Gambit even these cheapo Gskills do 1130mhz on the E and Dlx mobo's (450FSB - 266 strap and 1130 on the ram) - 1066 is no problem on them
I see no reason to cash out here mate

Link here : Gskill PC8000PQ HPM-Computer (http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_info.php?info=p7999_G-Skill-4GB-Kit-F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ.html)

[ztop]

hello i'm having some problems with mi asus maximus 2 formula and mi new gtx 260.. when i shut down the pc from windows the gtx 260 fan doesn'stop!and i have to push the start button from the main to stop the vga fan ...
someone can help me?
thanks...

[moogle]

hello i'm having some problems with mi asus maximus 2 formula and mi new gtx 260.. when i shut down the pc from windows the gtx 260 fan doesn'stop!and i have to push the start button from the main to stop the vga fan ...
someone can help me?
thanks...

What OS are you running? Bit version too.

[ztop]

xp pro sp2 32 bit

[drnick]

Has anyone had the "CPU INIT" error with this board? From what I've read it is not too infrequent of an occurrence with the Striker boards. Had just assembled a rig consisting of (CPU and mobo brand new):

MIIF mobo
e8600 with TRUE 120 push/pull fans
4x1gb crucial ballistix 1066 (the oldies-double sided memory banks)
evga 9800gtx
wd raptor
pcp&c 750 watt psu
antec 1200 case
winxp64

I had loaded the OS without issue and had already run (DOS based) memtest for several rounds without errors. Then a few minutes into running two instances of windows memtest, the computer powered down. I tried powering back on the system numerous times which only resulted in the system fans and led's coming on for a few seconds or flickering on and off repeatedly for a few seconds, but it wouldn't post and LCD monitor displayed "CPU INIT". I tried resetting CMOS (pulled battery), tried BIOS 2 jumper, tried a different pcp&c psu from another computer, tried booting with only cpu, graphics card, and only one stick of RAM, but no love.

At the time of the crash I was running 8x450fsb, vcore 1.26, CPU PLL 1.5, vdimm 2.1, vFSB 1.25, vNB 1.29, mem at 5-5-5-15 with 333 strap, all else pretty much on auto. Temps before crash looked ok according asus probe- cpu low 40's and NB 47C.

RMA time for the mobo? The board was purchased from local retailer and still within return period...I was going to swap it for a new one.

[ecpowers]

Hey there,

I've been following this thread for a while now, since I too got an M2F. Ever since I got it,
it has been nothing but trouble and frustration. When I first recieved the board only changing
the AI overclock tuner option to manual would made it fail to post, after getting some help
from another forum we fixed the problem. On my former XFX nForce 780i board I was able to run
my lapped Xeon 3110 at 4.2Ghz @ 1.37v and ram set to 1171mhz. Now even 3.6 isn't getting stable.
I'll post my specs and make a small list of what strange problems I'm experiencing.

My Specs;

Intel Xeon 3110 Lapped
Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme Lapped
Asus Maximus 2 Formula bios 1307 & Ket's 1307
Corsair Dominator Pc8500-C5D 2x2Gb
Corsair Dominator Airflow Fan
Gainward Radeon HD4870 875/4800
Thermalright HR-03GT
Level-One WBR-0601 W-NIC
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 2x750Gb RAID 0
Antec Truepower Quattro 850w

My Problems;

PC fails to post when changing PCIE frequency and hangs at "DET_RAM"
PC fails to post when changing GTL voltages
PC fails to start windows when overclocked even a little bit (like 400x9 @ 1.4v)
PC fails to post when USB devices are attached when overclocked.
PC needs alot of voltages when attempting an overclock (1.8v CPU PLL 1.5V Vcore 1.4 vFSB)
If the system does post it hangs with BSOD "IRQ not less or equal" error.
and it's overall very unstable.

I did try changing some components (CPU, RAM, VGA) to see if it would solve the problems but
unfortunately after 2 months I hardly have had any fun with it and seeing as some of you get
4Ghz out of a Q9550 ;) I really hope you guys can help me out a little.

By the way I've been into overclocking for a long long time now.

Greetings,
ECPowers

[Grnfinger]

Has anyone had the "CPU INIT" error with this board? From what I've read it is not too infrequent of an occurrence with the Striker boards. Had just assembled a rig consisting of (CPU and mobo brand new):

MIIF mobo
e8600 with TRUE 120 push/pull fans
4x1gb crucial ballistix 1066 (the oldies-double sided memory banks)
evga 9800gtx
wd raptor
pcp&c 750 watt psu
antec 1200 case
winxp64

I had loaded the OS without issue and had already run (DOS based) memtest for several rounds without errors. Then a few minutes into running two instances of windows memtest, the computer powered down. I tried powering back on the system numerous times which only resulted in the system fans and led's coming on for a few seconds or flickering on and off repeatedly for a few seconds, but it wouldn't post and LCD monitor displayed "CPU INIT". I tried resetting CMOS (pulled battery), tried BIOS 2 jumper, tried a different pcp&c psu from another computer, tried booting with only cpu, graphics card, and only one stick of RAM, but no love.

At the time of the crash I was running 8x450fsb, vcore 1.26, CPU PLL 1.5, vdimm 2.1, vFSB 1.25, vNB 1.29, mem at 5-5-5-15 with 333 strap, all else pretty much on auto. Temps before crash looked ok according asus probe- cpu low 40's and NB 47C.

RMA time for the mobo? The board was purchased from local retailer and still within return period...I was going to swap it for a new one.

Pop the chip and clear the cmos, put the chip back in and see how it goes.
I know its a bit of a hassle but it will take less time than an RMA.


Hey there,

I've been following this thread for a while now, since I too got an M2F. Ever since I got it,
it has been nothing but trouble and frustration. When I first recieved the board only changing
the AI overclock tuner option to manual would made it fail to post, after getting some help
from another forum we fixed the problem. On my former XFX nForce 780i board I was able to run
my lapped Xeon 3110 at 4.2Ghz @ 1.37v and ram set to 1171mhz. Now even 3.6 isn't getting stable.
I'll post my specs and make a small list of what strange problems I'm experiencing.

My Specs;

Intel Xeon 3110 Lapped
Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme Lapped
Asus Maximus 2 Formula bios 1307 & Ket's 1307
Corsair Dominator Pc8500-C5D 2x2Gb
Corsair Dominator Airflow Fan
Gainward Radeon HD4870 875/4800
Thermalright HR-03GT
Level-One WBR-0601 W-NIC
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 2x750Gb RAID 0
Antec Truepower Quattro 850w

My Problems;

PC fails to post when changing PCIE frequency and hangs at "DET_RAM"
PC fails to post when changing GTL voltages
PC fails to start windows when overclocked even a little bit (like 400x9 @ 1.4v)
PC fails to post when USB devices are attached when overclocked.
PC needs alot of voltages when attempting an overclock (1.8v CPU PLL 1.5V Vcore 1.4 vFSB)
If the system does post it hangs with BSOD "IRQ not less or equal" error.
and it's overall very unstable.

I did try changing some components (CPU, RAM, VGA) to see if it would solve the problems but
unfortunately after 2 months I hardly have had any fun with it and seeing as some of you get
4Ghz out of a Q9550 ;) I really hope you guys can help me out a little.

By the way I've been into overclocking for a long long time now.

Greetings,
ECPowers

For now get rid of Ket's bios and flash back to an Asus bios.
IRQ not less or equal to is a ram error, so start there.
You want to manually enter each value and set everything to stock speed, then test stability.
Once you have stock running stable you can move up.
Start by clocking the chip first and testing the CHIP ONLY, once its stable you can bring the ram into play.
Trying to do it all at once makes it very hard to pinpoint the problem.

[SiGfever]

Pop the chip and clear the cmos, put the chip back in and see how it goes.
I know its a bit of a hassle but it will take less time than an RMA.



For now get rid of Ket's bios and flash back to an Asus bios.
IRQ not less or equal to is a ram error, so start there.
You want to manually enter each value and set everything to stock speed, then test stability.
Once you have stock running stable you can move up.
Start by clocking the chip first and testing the CHIP ONLY, once its stable you can bring the ram into play.
Trying to do it all at once makes it very hard to pinpoint the problem.

QFT! :up:

[drnick]

Pop the chip and clear the cmos, put the chip back in and see how it goes.
I know its a bit of a hassle but it will take less time than an RMA.

Thanks for the quick reply Grnfinger!

I'll give that a try. I'm curious though...could a CPU INIT error like the one I've described by an indicator of a faulty board (or CPU)? Or have you seen this error message before on this board when your OC settings caused a reboot?

[CryptiK]

Yes it could be caused by a faulty board, and no I have never seen it hand on CPU INIT when overclocking.

The board sounds like it has issues, but as Grnfinger said, try the Asus 1307 BIOS and the oter suggestion first. I have used Kets bios for the board with no issues so I know the BIOS works, but its worth a try. The fact it needed excessive voltages to overclock may indicate something wrong with the VRM.

[Deboyzfun]

are these good over clock speeds?



Temperatures

CPU 26 °C
CPU #1 / Core #1 52 °C
CPU #1 / Core #2 51 °C
CPU #1 / Core #3 57 °C
CPU #1 / Core #4 57 °C
North Bridge 48 °C
South Bridge 51 °C



Voltage Values

CPU Core 1.36 V
CPU VTT 1.36 V
CPU PLL 1.59 V
North Bridge 1.36 V
South Bridge 1.12 V
South Bridge 1.50 V
DIMM 2.20

[nugzo]

For the past week i've been playing with EVGA 780i FTW, MSI p&N Diamond, Rampage Formula and a MIIF. The Maximus i am the most pleased with so far.
I've ran a couple of 1 hour Blend/Small FFT with no errors. Definatley more to Stability tests to come.
Memory is on auto, i'll tweak that after i find my max fsb. Needless to say I'm pleased with this 9650 and Maximus II Formula.

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/4461/62753409ma5.jpg

[Grnfinger]

Thanks for the quick reply Grnfinger!

I'll give that a try. I'm curious though...could a CPU INIT error like the one I've described by an indicator of a faulty board (or CPU)? Or have you seen this error message before on this board when your OC settings caused a reboot?

I had the error once when swapping cpu's, I pop'd the Q6700 and got a CPU INIT error, cleard cmos ect and still would not post.
After reseating the cpu it never happended again. If it happens frequently then I would suggest RMA'ing the board.


For the past week i've been playing with EVGA 780i FTW, MSI p&N Diamond, Rampage Formula and a MIIF. The Maximus i am the most pleased with so far.
I've ran a couple of 1 hour Blend/Small FFT with no errors. Definatley more to Stability tests to come.
Memory is on auto, i'll tweak that after i find my max fsb. Needless to say I'm pleased with this 9650 and Maximus II Formula.



Thats a nice chip you have there :up:


Yes it could be caused by a faulty board, and no I have never seen it hand on CPU INIT when overclocking.

The board sounds like it has issues, but as Grnfinger said, try the Asus 1307 BIOS and the oter suggestion first. I have used Kets bios for the board with no issues so I know the BIOS works, but its worth a try. The fact it needed excessive voltages to overclock may indicate something wrong with the VRM.

I askd to flash back to a Asus bios to help eliminate a ram issue, ruling out hacks and mods would be the first logical step imo. Seeing as Ket just copies memory tables and calls it something special (plagiarism comes to mind) when he is clearly having a ram related issue I thought it would be a good idea, I have tried Kets bios and see zero improvement with my hardware so I see no reason to run something when I have no idea what was modded if anything at all. I think its more a education/learning thing but yes his board could be bork'd,

[CryptiK]

I askd to flash back to a Asus bios to help eliminate a ram issue, ruling out hacks and mods would be the first logical step imo. Seeing as Ket just copies memory tables and calls it something special (plagiarism comes to mind) when he is clearly having a ram related issue I thought it would be a good idea, I have tried Kets bios and see zero improvement with my hardware so I see no reason to run something when I have no idea what was modded if anything at all. I think its more a education/learning thing but yes his board could be bork'd,

I totally agree with the suggestion and the reasoning behind it, that's why I backed it up. I actually run Asus BIOS now as Ket's gives no improvement for me. I just said that I'd run Ket's BIOS without issues to assuage any fears that he had flashed a dodgey BIOS to his board.

[Guacamole]

For the past week i've been playing with EVGA 780i FTW, MSI p&N Diamond, Rampage Formula and a MIIF. The Maximus i am the most pleased with so far.
I've ran a couple of 1 hour Blend/Small FFT with no errors. Definatley more to Stability tests to come.
Memory is on auto, i'll tweak that after i find my max fsb. Needless to say I'm pleased with this 9650 and Maximus II Formula.


That's a sweet OC for that Quad do you think you could please post your exact bios settings I see most of your voltages there on the side but the GTL and the finalized memory settings would be awesome once you dial it in... Thanks....

[SkOrPn]

Hello,

anyone figure out how to run the bottom PCI-E slot at x16 with one video card? I know Asus claims both slots are x16 with one video card, and auto-switch to x8 mode with two video cards. But with my 4870x2 it shows in the CCC as x8 when in the bottom slot, but x16 when in the top slot. Both CPU-Z and GPU-Z shows x16 no matter which slot I have it in.

Any ideas?

[GeorgeVasil]

Hello,

anyone figure out how to run the bottom PCI-E slot at x16 with one video card? I know Asus claims both slots are x16 with one video card, and auto-switch to x8 mode with two video cards. But with my 4870x2 it shows in the CCC as x8 when in the bottom slot, but x16 when in the top slot. Both CPU-Z and GPU-Z shows x16 no matter which slot I have it in.

Any ideas?

Have you mentioned any performance difference??

Maybe it's a CCC bug.

offtopic question: How your Gkskill PI perform on M2F?Can you run them 1200Mhz stable?

[SkOrPn]

Yes I did see a slight perf diference but only had time to check in cod4. Never went over 150fps on the bottom slot but seem to stay around 110 or so, but did manage to see a few 300+ fps moments on the top slot, but over all seems about the same really between 130-150 on the top slot. Did not do any synthetic benchies as I just got the card installed a few hours ago and have to remove it yet again to install the EK fc water block (Currently making sure the card works before going thru the trouble). REALLY wanted to run the card in the bottom slot for tidyness and to keep the extra heat as far away from the NB, memory and cpu as possible. Besides, it just looks better that way. Any way to know for sure if its a bug in ccc or really at x8 on the bottom slot?

The G.Skill runs fine at 1200, but I keep it at 1100 because I like the stock 1.8v better than 1.9... I love this memory tho.... seems to play nice both on my P5B Dlx and this MaxIIForm.

[Gunnz Akimbo]

it is possible to boot from SpeedingHDD as a raid-0 config in bios yes?
And use it as the C: for windows install.:shrug:

Seen some info that it can't boot from speeding HDD as a main drive.

[CryptiK]

For the past week i've been playing with EVGA 780i FTW, MSI p&N Diamond, Rampage Formula and a MIIF. The Maximus i am the most pleased with so far.
I've ran a couple of 1 hour Blend/Small FFT with no errors. Definatley more to Stability tests to come.
Memory is on auto, i'll tweak that after i find my max fsb. Needless to say I'm pleased with this 9650 and Maximus II Formula.


Could you please find what the max FSB the M2F will run the 9650 at? 3D stable is fine.

[Grnfinger]

Anyone running on the 266 strap with FSB above 450?
If so can you provide some voltage's, been trying to run 459 FSB on the 266 strap 1147MHz ram will post but wont boot into vista.
Running out of ideas here and open to suggestions

[GeorgeVasil]

Yes I did see a slight perf diference but only had time to check in cod4. Never went over 150fps on the bottom slot but seem to stay around 110 or so, but did manage to see a few 300+ fps moments on the top slot, but over all seems about the same really between 130-150 on the top slot. Did not do any synthetic benchies as I just got the card installed a few hours ago and have to remove it yet again to install the EK fc water block (Currently making sure the card works before going thru the trouble). REALLY wanted to run the card in the bottom slot for tidyness and to keep the extra heat as far away from the NB, memory and cpu as possible. Besides, it just looks better that way. Any way to know for sure if its a bug in ccc or really at x8 on the bottom slot?


The G.Skill runs fine at 1200, but I keep it at 1100 because I like the stock 1.8v better than 1.9... I love this memory tho.... seems to play nice both on my P5B Dlx and this MaxIIForm.

Have you installed the Latest catalyst??

----------------------------------------
1200Mhz with 1.9v??:eek::eek:

WoW..

very good news for me..:D:D

[SkOrPn]

Have you installed the Latest catalyst??

Yes, I tried the hotfix ones, newer than the official 8.10's. But I doubt this is the problem. Wish I could find someone on the internet who can confirm there card runs at x16 in the bottom slot.

Going to install fresh copy of Vista 64 to see if that changes anything on the CCC info page. Also will try official 8.10 release... May also move card back to bottom slot and see what Everest says, but so far GPU-Z and CPU-Z says bottom slot is working at x16 but CCC says x8. Maybe I should try testing with 3Dmark or Crysis bench at highest possible settings to see what happens in both slots.

I need to know for sure. Thanks

[Guacamole]

Yes, I tried the hotfix ones, newer than the official 8.10's. But I doubt this is the problem.

Where do you get those hotfix drivers???

I am having trouble running CF with 2 4870/512 cards I went to play Crysis and my FPS dropped about 15 to 20FPS lower than just 1 card am I missing something here????

[Grnfinger]

Where do you get those hotfix drivers???

I am having trouble running CF with 2 4870/512 cards I went to play Crysis and my FPS dropped about 15 to 20FPS lower than just 1 card am I missing something here????

Have you tried 8.11 beta? supposed to get 20% more FPS in Crysis
I have it but have yet to test it out.

[elsupremo]

Guys, looking for advice on a problem and hoping you can help. The reason I got this board is that my DFI P35 died on me eventually. Slowly, it became harder and harder to get it to boot. At first, it took a couple of tries before it booted, then 3-5, then quickly it escalated to the point where I could not get it to boot anymore. I am seeing the same problem starting on my M2F. It's not taking me 1-3 tries to get it to boot, even at just stock settings. Something is putting a lot of pressure on the motherboard, it feels like, and is causing it to degrade until it won't start anymore. The components I have that were on the DFI P35 are these: CPU (QX9650) and RAM (2 GB G.Skill DDR2 800 non-MicronD9). I am suspecting that the RAM may be killing my motherboards. Does anyone else have any feelings about this?

My other components: Radeon 4870 X2 (bought after the M2F)
Areca 8 port RAID card PCIE
Tbalancer fan controller
Auzentech sound card (same from DFI)
Corsair 1Kw PSU (bought after M2F)

[Guacamole]

Have you tried 8.11 beta? supposed to get 20% more FPS in Crysis
I have it but have yet to test it out.

I am not an ATI guy for sure I can mod an Nvidia driver in my sleep but I can't even find 8.11 beta anywhere on the ATI site where might it be???

Nevermind I found them....

[SkOrPn]

@ elsupremo, are you on the 1307 bios? Improve compatibility with some PCI-E Raid Cards. But not sure which ones.

Well, even Everest shows the bottom slot to be running at x16 as does GPU-Z and CPU-Z. But I get slight fps increases going to the top slot. Results below.

Run #1- DX10 1900x1200 AA=16xQ, 32 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh ~~ Overall Average FPS: 28.6375 (bottom slot) 5 Runs

Run #1- DX10 1900x1200 AA=16xQ, 64 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh ~~ Overall Average FPS: 27.96 (bottom slot) 5 Runs

Run #1- DX10 1900x1200 AA=16xQ, 32 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh ~~ Overall Average FPS: 31.2525 (Top slot) 5 Runs

Run #1- DX10 1900x1200 AA=16xQ, 64 bit test, Quality: VeryHigh ~~ Overall Average FPS: 29.1025 (Top slot) 5 Runs

One things for sure not much difference from top slot to bottom slot, or 64bit to 32bit. But there is clear enough evidence that the bottom slot is in fact x8. Anyone agree?

I have not tried the beta 8.11's yet.

[SiGfever]

I still have a ways to go but here is where I am with this board.

[Grnfinger]

I still have a ways to go but here is where I am with this board.

Very nice work :up:

[Guacamole]

Grnfinger is there anyway my crossfire problems could be related to the autoed 8X8 Pcie lanes?? Will that affect performance that noticeably?? Also I updated to the new drivers and now I seem to be back to about the same performance as I am with one card.. It hurts to say that out loud... My GTX SLI murders CF performance not even close....

[CryptiK]

Anyone running on the 266 strap with FSB above 450?
If so can you provide some voltage's, been trying to run 459 FSB on the 266 strap 1147MHz ram will post but wont boot into vista.
Running out of ideas here and open to suggestions

I run 445 FSB 24/7 on the 266 strap and PL8 totally stable. Not sure if you can do that too but above 450 you have problems, but let me know if you want my settings.

[Guacamole]

Dude, your not gonna see the difference with your eyes, only in bench's, and then its slight....:cool:

Dude you were wrong the 2 8X8 Pcie lanes ruins CF performance for the new video cards and limits the bandwith which essentially cuts your FPS in half totally sucks this is not a good board for CF...

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger is there anyway my crossfire problems could be related to the autoed 8X8 Pcie lanes?? Will that affect performance that noticeably?? Also I updated to the new drivers and now I seem to be back to about the same performance as I am with one card.. It hurts to say that out loud... My GTX SLI murders CF performance not even close....

They say there is little to no noticable loss. I cannot confirm this for I only have a 3870X2. Altho it was a pain in the a$$ I moved my card from the top to bottom slot.
No difference in performance, 3DMark and Vantage scored about the same.
Everest shows it at 16x top or bottom.



I run 445 FSB 24/7 on the 266 strap and PL8 totally stable. Not sure if you can do that too but above 450 you have problems, but let me know if you want my settings.

I would be interested in that....I have been having issues with my rig all weekend. My once stable 4.0GHz is failing every test will pass linpak 10 loops one time then fail the next. run 3-4 hours prime no problems then the next run fail in 19 mins.
So I dialed back to my 12 hour prime stable 3.9GHz setting same freaking problem, not stable! Getting frustrated at this

[carepolice]

So I dialed back to my 12 hour prime stable 3.9GHz setting same freaking problem, not stable! Getting frustrated at this

Could it be degrading, No offense but i have seen few of your bios setting page and some volts are pretty high for 45nm

:eek:

[bito]

Any of these with the A3 revision chipset yet ??
Seems the Gigabyte EP45-UDP's are using this latest revision to good effect !

[TonyL222]

New NB water block from Swiftech compatible with the M2F (and Rampage):

https://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCW-NBMAX-North-Bridge-Cooler-pr-4272.html

Good thing is that it comes with 1/2" chrome barbs, and should be compatible with future ROG boards.

[CryptiK]

I would be interested in that....I have been having issues with my rig all weekend. My once stable 4.0GHz is failing every test will pass linpak 10 loops one time then fail the next. run 3-4 hours prime no problems then the next run fail in 19 mins.
So I dialed back to my 12 hour prime stable 3.9GHz setting same freaking problem, not stable! Getting frustrated at this

Ok well for 445 FSB PL8 on the 266 strap I run my vNB at 1.27225v, NB GTL Ref on auto. However because you have a quad obviously you'll need more voltage for stability. I know you know what you're doing but what have you tried to regain stability other than down clocking to 3.9GHz?

I have had similar instability over the past few days, and actually needed to increase my GTL's a little to regain stability.

[screwtech02]

Dude you were wrong the 2 8X8 Pcie lanes ruins CF performance for the new video cards and limits the bandwith which essentially cuts your FPS in half totally sucks this is not a good board for CF...

The only thing i have to go on is personal experiance with this board, i stuck the same 3870's in that i ran in my P5E, and was able to clock the proc to 3.75, (which the P5E wouldnt do stable). This x8 setup instantly got me over 4000 points more in 03 mark....

I dont call this a "sucky" board for crossfire....


I assume you have done a comparison????

[TonyL222]

higher FSB is faster I wouldnt use the 10 multi
9x450 would be a better setup imo and should be obtainable if your chip scales well.

9x450, even with vcore upped to 1.5v, doesn't give me a stable OC. I probably need to list my Bios settings in order for anyone to advise. Is there a good (i.e., easier) way to capture that for posting - is is it just a matter of copying it donw and typing it into a post here?

[CryptiK]

Just write your settings into the template we have been using to post settings in this thread and embed it using PHP code so it doesn't take up too much room.

[s@ber]

Does this board have compatibility problems with some mems? Meaning like Transend axeram or A-Data? I just cant get even 450FSB stable with any of setting wich have been posted here : / Even with solarfalls posted settings arent stable (this is his old mobo). Eventhought that ppl voltage is too low (1,51 is nearly the standart).

PPL 1,51
FSB ter. vol. 1,33
NB 1,43

One thing i havent tried yet is older bios with those setting.

CPU cant be the problem, cause this e8600 goes just fine with biostar Tpower. Mems are A-Data Vitesta Extreme PC2-6400+ and transend axerams with micron D9GMH chips.

[Grnfinger]

Ok well for 445 FSB PL8 on the 266 strap I run my vNB at 1.27225v, NB GTL Ref on auto. However because you have a quad obviously you'll need more voltage for stability. I know you know what you're doing but what have you tried to regain stability other than down clocking to 3.9GHz?

I have had similar instability over the past few days, and actually needed to increase my GTL's a little to regain stability.

I have upped VTT PLL GTL's same damn thing core 4 fails at the 1 hour 19-22 min mark in prime BUT will pass 10 loops of linpak but run it twice and it fails 1out of 10 loops :shrug:
I suppose it could be burn in, ran the chip hard since it was new just didnt want to up vCore any more.


Could it be degrading, No offense but i have seen few of your bios setting page and some volts are pretty high for 45nm

:eek:

This is not Grandma's house if your affraid to push you chip then I think your in the wrong forum:rofl:

And you really think I post my final settings?

[SiGfever]

@Grnfinger,
Just wanted to say thanks for all the help you have given me. The DVD download was way beyond the call of duty and I really appreciate it. :up:

[Grnfinger]

@Grnfinger,
Just wanted to say thanks for all the help you have given me. The DVD download was way beyond the call of duty and I really appreciate it. :up:

Anytime, Glad I could help you :toast:

[Guacamole]

The only thing i have to go on is personal experiance with this board, i stuck the same 3870's in that i ran in my P5E, and was able to clock the proc to 3.75, (which the P5E wouldnt do stable). This x8 setup instantly got me over 4000 points more in 03 mark....

I dont call this a "sucky" board for crossfire....


I assume you have done a comparison????

Sorry I wasn't trying to be a jerk it's just that I spent a bunch of time in the ATi threads asking questions and these new cards get bottlenecked if they don't have the bandwith I guess it's a problem with the 4000 series cards more than anything else the whole 10.1 and Pcie 2.0 with GDDR5 needs the maximum through-put or you experience this sort of loss of FPS.. At least I know I am not crazy I just spent sooo much time trying to dial in the settings to no avail... I meant no disrespect I think I was tired and frustrasted when I posted that I am sorry...

[CryptiK]

I have upped VTT PLL GTL's same damn thing core 4 fails at the 1 hour 19-22 min mark in prime BUT will pass 10 loops of linpak but run it twice and it fails 1out of 10 loops :shrug:
I suppose it could be burn in, ran the chip hard since it was new just didnt want to up vCore any more.


Almost sounds heat related, what temp does it get to in Linpack and does it get hotter when running it for the second time when it fails 1/10 tests? Have you tried increasing vNB a couple of notches and re-testing?

Also have you tried increasing vcore a notch or two? It could be through its burn in phase.

[Grnfinger]

Almost sounds heat related, what temp does it get to in Linpack and does it get hotter when running it for the second time when it fails 1/10 tests? Have you tried increasing vNB a couple of notches and re-testing?

Also have you tried increasing vcore a notch or two? It could be through its burn in phase.

Chip is stable again.
Temps are stellar low to mid 60's when running linpak, low 50's when running prime.
All it needed was 2 bumps of vCore.

[CryptiK]

Glad you sorted it out. That's what happened to mine, I've had to increase the vcore 32mv from what used to be stable, and now I think it is through the burn in phase (hopefully). When it first happened it really confused me, I looked at everything else first then finally gave in and increased vcore; problem solved.

[Gunnz Akimbo]

i got the speeding hdd controller too boot, but i thinks its because the first drive on the intel port is a bootable vista drive.

Still not sure if its able to boot from the speeding hdd alone.

[screwtech02]

Sorry I wasn't trying to be a jerk it's just that I spent a bunch of time in the ATi threads asking questions and these new cards get bottlenecked if they don't have the bandwith I guess it's a problem with the 4000 series cards more than anything else the whole 10.1 and Pcie 2.0 with GDDR5 needs the maximum through-put or you experience this sort of loss of FPS.. At least I know I am not crazy I just spent sooo much time trying to dial in the settings to no avail... I meant no disrespect I think I was tired and frustrasted when I posted that I am sorry...

NP man, no offnese taken.....:cool:

[screwtech02]

You ought to be able to boot from the speeding setup, you just have to install the os on the speeding controler to do it....

[drnick]

A follow up on my board which rebooted during windows memtest and subsequently got "stuck" at CPU INIT and wouldn't post anymore- I removed the CPU (e8600) and cleared CMOS then popped it back in- still no post with LCD still showing CPU INIT. I even tried a different CPU (an e6850) and still no post. So I brought it back to the store and swapped it for a new one (techs at store did a perfunctory test on the board and declared it defective).

I think the old board had my RAM for breakfast though!:down: I had 4x1GB sticks of ballistix (my cherished vintage double sided memory bank variety) in it when it crapped out, and now when I put them back in another setup (where they were working fine before I pulled them for the MIIF) they immediately throw thousands of errors in memtest at stock speed and voltage.

I do have a general memory question(s): All things equal, will 2x2GB sticks or 4x1GB sticks require more NB voltage on this board, and given the choice between the two, what would most people prefer to use if they wanted 4GB of memory?

Thanks for the advice.

[Grnfinger]

A follow up on my board which rebooted during windows memtest and subsequently got "stuck" at CPU INIT and wouldn't post anymore- I removed the CPU (e8600) and cleared CMOS then popped it back in- still no post with LCD still showing CPU INIT. I even tried a different CPU (an e6850) and still no post. So I brought it back to the store and swapped it for a new one (techs at store did a perfunctory test on the board and declared it defective).

I think the old board had my RAM for breakfast though!:down: I had 4x1GB sticks of ballistix (my cherished vintage double sided memory bank variety) in it when it crapped out, and now when I put them back in another setup (where they were working fine before I pulled them for the MIIF) they immediately throw thousands of errors in memtest at stock speed and voltage.

I do have a general memory question(s): All things equal, will 2x2GB sticks or 4x1GB sticks require more NB voltage on this board, and given the choice between the two, what would most people prefer to use if they wanted 4GB of memory?

Thanks for the advice.

4x1GB sticks will tax the NB harder than 2x2GBs
2x2 is the better choice imo