ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[Legacy]

These temps seems pretty high.. Everything in the bios was left on Auto except for Ram and I set the FSB to 450x8

What do you guys think

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb122/5wisha/prime1.gif

[crazyea]

Atuo is killer. It's sets things way too high. You're gonna have to set the volts manually.

Also, what is your ambient temp?

[Legacy]

68 F is my room temp. I wouldn't know where to start with lowereing volts.

Here is a screen shot with all my curent voltages

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb122/5wisha/Capture.gif

[Scinner]

Do i see 1.78 for cpupll?Put that at lower volts fast m8 i dont think its good for your cpu.I am newbie overclocker myself but i don think this will be good for cpu.I also see 10C diffrence in your core's?

[Legacy]

Do i see 1.78 for cpupll?Put that at lower volts fast m8 i dont think its good for your cpu.I am newbie overclocker myself but i don think this will be good for cpu.I also see 10C diffrence in your core's?

I lowered the pll to 1.62 and ran prime95 stable for 8 hrs I also lowered NB 1.27 and the FSB/Vtt 1.28..

I Prime tested this Cpu almost immidiately after installing the CPU, so maybe that's why my temps are so high?

even after letting the computer idle, core 1&3 are 40-43C core 2&4 are 33-35C. I put a very very thin layer of thermal paste on the cpu
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb122/5wisha/Capture1.jpg

[crazyea]

Run the realtemp core/sensor test. You may have a couple stuck.

[Legacy]

ran sensor test

Core0= 10 Core1= 9 Core2= 11 Core3= 13

I might need to lap the CPU, I already lapped the HS and there was no differnece in temps

[crazyea]

Case type?

[chiman2]

i might be buying a mf2 and i have a question will this northbridge heatsink/fan work on the mf2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103155

or could i just put a 40mm fan on top of the asus heatsink.

o yea i also notice that the motherboard comes with this like pci slot fan but i dont know where it goes.

[xzulu]

Finally got my board! Changed the thermalpaste of the NB and SB and also the removable heatsink on top of the NB after taking it out the box. Applied AS5, booted up withouts problems. Checked the Bios temps of the NB. 39C Idle. Now time to play with it :)

[xzulu]

i might be buying a mf2 and i have a question will this northbridge heatsink/fan work on the mf2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103155

or could i just put a 40mm fan on top of the asus heatsink.

o yea i also notice that the motherboard comes with this like pci slot fan but i dont know where it goes.

you could just mount a 40mm fan on the NB with double sided tape. :up:

[chiman2]

so 40mm is the right size and i just put a fan on top of the normal heat sink right?

any ideas on that heatsink/fan thing by cooler master?

[xzulu]

so 40mm is the right size and i just put a fan on top of the normal heat sink right?

any ideas on that heatsink/fan thing by cooler master?

=================

Well, I tried putting a 40mm 5,000rpm fan on top of the stock heatsink. Temps went down about 2C. As for the Coolermaster chipset cooler I dont think it would make a difference. It's just like putting a fan on top of the normal one.

I want to try the Thermalright HR-05 chipset cooler. I bet temps will be lower.

[dctokyo]

http://www.evga.com/support/faq/files/p4300029.jpg
I keep getting this picture over and over as the USB floppy drive is not read
did it like the manual in the bios set it to raid then the Ctrl+I and made a partition(also tried two partitions) made a floppy with the raid drivers and then when I try to install XP and try to press F6 it doesn't open the USB A: drive ......... it keeps asking me to put in a floppy disk


for some reason it will not load the RAID drivers from my USB floppy drive during the windows setup......... I had to use a internal one to do this.

The floppy drive and floppy works OK on another machine during the windows setup for some reason

Anyone has this problem?

[xzulu]

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b272/xavizulu/OCCT4.jpg

Funny, how come CPU-Z Detected my Ram as DDR3??? That's weird!!

[dctokyo]

[QUOTE=xzulu;3223373
Funny, how come CPU-Z Detected my Ram as DDR3??? That's weird!![/QUOTE]

The same here, maybe CPU-Z is outdated?

[sunny7day]

I've both 604 and 901 bios in my board. The 604 is way better than 901 in terms of fsb overclocking. No problem at all using E8600 with 604 bios.

[xzulu]

I found a way to lower my SB and NB temps! I already replaced the paste on the SB and NB to AS5 and tightened the screws.

before: 40mm 5,000rpm fan on NB
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b272/xavizulu/IMG_3488.jpg

now: 60mm ADDA 11.5cfm 3,500rpm fan on the NB and placed the Antec Spot Cool over the SB
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b272/xavizulu/IMG_3529.jpg

Temps went down 4C for both the SB and NB :up:

I figured out my G.Skill 2x2GB F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ @ 1066Mhz 1.9v runs cool on idle and on load cause of the low voltage, so it doesn't need the Antec Spot Cool. I used 3M Heavy Duty Double Sided Industrial tape to secure the 60mm fan on the NB fan :up:

Has anyone tried using a Thermalright HR-05 or the Sli version? I was at my friends place a while ago, we tried the HR-05 Sli and it can be mounted, problem was we needed longer screws just like the one used on the stock chipset heatsink.

[Lloyd]

can anyone tell me what Asus have used under the nb? Normal paste or that bloody cement? IE will i need to heat up the nb before removal?
Thanks in advance for ur help
Regards
Lloyd

[dingdong555]

Hi guys,

I just got this mobo and I must say... it ROCKS.

Now I have a Q6600 and I am looking to OC it to 3.8ghz, what should i change to make it stable?

If I just change the CPU voltage to 1.43, it fails, any ideas would be appreciated.

This is my CURRENT OC


http://i33.tinypic.com/29mkfuc.jpg

[xzulu]

can anyone tell me what Asus have used under the nb? Normal paste or that bloody cement? IE will i need to heat up the nb before removal?
Thanks in advance for ur help
Regards
Lloyd

Well, Asus used some gray looking thermal paste, looks better than the regular white stuff they use

[Solarfall]

had some fun with this board during the weekend:

first some superPi

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t307/Solarfall_photos/8093s.jpg

ran some benchmarks with the old 3dmark01 :D God i love it LOL

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t307/Solarfall_photos/99188.jpg

[mr-rob]

The Vcore is... High ^^
Nice the 607 FSB :D

Is it possible to have some tests with wPrime 32M & 1024M? I would like to see what a 45nm Dual Core is capable.
Thx

[Legacy]

The Vcore is... High ^^
Nice the 607 FSB :D

Is it possible to have some tests with wPrime 32M & 1024M? I would like to see what a 45nm Dual Core is capable.
Thx


First run on a Q9450.. I know you asked for dual core, but I decided to post it anyways :D


http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb122/5wisha/wprime.jpg

[Solarfall]

The Vcore is... High ^^
Nice the 607 FSB :D

Is it possible to have some tests with wPrime 32M & 1024M? I would like to see what a 45nm Dual Core is capable.
Thx

mmm yeah maybe i could crunch some numbers tomorrow

[mr-rob]

First run on a Q9450.. I know you asked for dual core, but I decided to post it anyways :D
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb122/5wisha/wprime.jpg
:up: Thx
Nice score :D
X3350 is +/- like a Q9450:
http://images4.hiboox.com/vignettes/3008/45af93610288e479dd8bc0fc0a5a9496.jpg (http://www.hiboox.com/go/pictures/miscellaneous/x3350-mf2-4,45af93610288e479dd8bc0fc0a5a9496.jpg.html)
:p:

mmm yeah maybe i could crunch some numbers tomorrow
Yes!!! Thx
I just would like to know how efficient is a C2D 45nm with higher than 4.5Ghz.
Here is a personal test:
http://images1.hiboox.com/vignettes/2608/2300ad61958020b462e25698a4b9f6ce.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/divers/bench-x3350-q6600-e8200,2300ad61958020b462e25698a4b9f6ce.jpg.html)
:)

[Solarfall]

wanna watercool the NB but dont wanna rip off that sexy heatpipe contraption that this asus board has ?? well you could do this !!:D

i installed my swiftect NB block straight to the heatpipes like so.. you need to swich the mounting finns on the block the otherway arround !!! if you dont do it the block wont alling with the holes on the heatpipe cooler ;)

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t307/Solarfall_photos/DSCN1275.jpg

i used the block screws that come with it the other way arround like you can see from the pic.. then just tightened until the springs went no further.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t307/Solarfall_photos/DSCN1276.jpg

READY TO ROCK :yepp:

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t307/Solarfall_photos/DSCN1278.jpg

[mr-rob]

->Solarfall: I needed to cut a little the WB because contact between WB/NB is not enought ;) That's allow me to "screw it well"(sorry, don't really know how to tell this).
BTW, it seems that Swiftech is about to produce a sexy MF2 WB for NB:
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/179/mcwnbm2fx450qf7.gif
Your CPU isn't WCed???

[Solarfall]

->Solarfall: I needed to cut a little the WB because contact between WB/NB is not enought ;) That's allow me to "screw it well"(sorry, don't really know how to tell this).
BTW, it seems that Swiftech is about to produce a sexy MF2 WB for NB:
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/179/mcwnbm2fx450qf7.gif
Your CPU isn't WCed???

mr-rob you dont have to cut anything if your using the same block as i am.. you will just have to swich the metal mounting finns (the shiny ones) other way arround.. the swiftech mwc-30 will fit then !! you'll just have to swich the mounting finns easy as that :up:
nope i usually dont watercool my cpu.. cos i basically use this board just to do benching :D

[mr-rob]

mr-rob you dont have to cut anything if your using the same block as i am.. you will just have to swich the metal mounting finns (the shiny ones) other way arround.. the swiftech mwc-30 will fit then !! you'll just have to swich the mounting finns easy as that :up:
nope i usually dont watercool my cpu.. cos i basically use this board just to do benching :D
I use the same as yours: Swiftech MCW-30, isn't it?
I don't really understand what you meant by "switch the mounting...".
Not a big deal :p:

:clap: I do the same!!! This board is for benching!!! :up:
Here is my bench'rig:
http://images4.hiboox.com/vignettes/3208/dbff3b18f7a7b0c40b0f73959ce6f7cf.jpg (http://www.hiboox.com/go/pictures/miscellaneous/p1000436,dbff3b18f7a7b0c40b0f73959ce6f7cf.jpg.html )
:D:D:D

[Grnfinger]

wanna watercool the NB but dont wanna rip off that sexy heatpipe contraption that this asus board has ?? well you could do this !!:D

i installed my swiftect NB block straight to the heatpipes like so.. you need to swich the mounting finns on the block the otherway arround !!! if you dont do it the block wont alling with the holes on the heatpipe cooler ;)

Thank you!:up:

I just had my Maximus Formula SE die a painfull death and was thinking on getting this board while waiting for Asus RMA.
The only thing holding me back was the NB cooling, I have a MCW30 and your idea is brilliant.

[Gunnz Akimbo]

before you think that big OC is stable, run IntelBurnTest on Max memory usage.

it might scare the :banana::banana::banana::banana: outta ya.

[Tech Niques]

So i'm leaning towards the Asus P5Q Deluxe because of the cooling for the Mosfets/NB/SB.

How's the motherboard chipset cooling for the Maximus? And is there really any big difference between the Deluxe and Max other than sound card?

[Grnfinger]

My board just arrived
Are the chipset drivers on the CD upto date?

[tjelaw]

->Solarfall: I needed to cut a little the WB because contact between WB/NB is not enought ;) That's allow me to "screw it well"(sorry, don't really know how to tell this).
BTW, it seems that Swiftech is about to produce a sexy MF2 WB for NB:
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/179/mcwnbm2fx450qf7.gif
Your CPU isn't WCed???

that is really sexy, u have more info on that block mr-rob? :rolleyes:

[xzulu]

Damn, the 0901 Bios is giving me lots of problems. Crash codes in OCCT and Errors in Orthos. Im going to try the 0802 Bios....

[Grnfinger]

My board just arrived
Are the chipset drivers on the CD upto date?

:shrug: anyone?

Whats the best bios todate guys, I'm going to run a Q9550 first

[Solarfall]

:shrug: anyone?

Whats the best bios todate guys, I'm going to run a Q9550 first

i've been very happy with the latest bios ( 0901) ;)

[mr-rob]

that is really sexy, u have more info on that block mr-rob? :rolleyes:
It seems to come out in about 3 weeks.
:D Yeah, it's really sexy :p:.
I'll see if I'll change my MCW-30 by this one later :cool:

:shrug: anyone?
Whats the best bios todate guys, I'm going to run a Q9550 first
I don't know for the drivers. I used to DL directly from ASUS & BTW I never used CDs provided with the boards.

For now, my favourite bios is still the 604.

[Grnfinger]

Thanks guys for the info.
I'll try 604 first and move up from there.

[DARLINGTON]

Someone has the measures, of bridge NB???To do a domestic block, for my.

Regards

[genec57]

I have noticed that the 0901 bios has been removed and replaced several times on the Asus website. as of now it is posted - anyone know what is up with that?

[WaterFlex]

Guys, please help me! I`ve bought M2F today. Before that i had MF.
My rig is in signature.
I reached very good result with MF. But i can`t reach the same with M2F (maybe coz of different bios which i need to learn?)
Can someone write bios config,please?

[Solarfall]

Guys, please help me! I`ve bought M2F today. Before that i had MF.
My rig is in signature.
I reached very good result with M2F. But i can`t to reach the same with M2F (maybe coz of different bios which i need to learn?)
Can someone write bios config,please?

mmm try these settings:

cpuv:1.3v
ppl 1.51v
fsb termination voltage 1.33v
NBv: 1.37
all gtls on auto

im able to reach to 500fsb with my QX9650 (witch i see that you've been running with your xeon)

[Grnfinger]

Guys, please help me! I`ve bought M2F today. Before that i had MF.
My rig is in signature.
I reached very good result with MF. But i can`t reach the same with M2F (maybe coz of different bios which i need to learn?)
Can someone write bios config,please?

I'm priming 1.5 hours right now at 475x8.5 on a q9550

I'll post my bios setup shortly

[chiman2]

hey everyone i just got the maximus 2 formula and love it. im having one problem though. im trying to install a 64 bit os and it doesnt work. all my 32 bit os's work. is there something i have to change in the bios? thanks

[crazyea]

It doesn't work is really vague. What problems are you encountering?

[chiman2]

lol sorry. well i make it boot from the cd drive and whenever i put in a 64 bit os it says "reboot and select boot device or put in boot media and press a key"

[Grnfinger]

lol sorry. well i make it boot from the cd drive and whenever i put in a 64 bit os it says "reboot and select boot device or put in boot media and press a key"

I would say your disk is faulty.:shrug:

[chiman2]

does 64 bit work for you? did you have to chagne any settings.

[Grnfinger]

does 64 bit work for you? did you have to chagne any settings.

nope, just pop the disk in and sit back let her install.

[chiman2]

hmmm. k thanks. i guess i will find a new disc. also im planning on "burning" in my cpu. and i need a program that would let me change cpu voltage in the os. i know i could use the bios but it would be more time consuming. the asus suite doesnt seem to let you do that.

[ChaosAD]

I am thinking of getting this board along with 2x2Gb Dominators PC8500 and a 45nm quad. Anyone have any experience/issues with this setup? I have seem that many of you run very high PL in memory settings. Is this a board standard? In MF1 common PL was 6 or 7. Does the EK NB-Smax fit on the NB?

Grnfinger show me some good results of O/C cause i still cant make my mind over MF2 or RE :(

[Legacy]

hey everyone i just got the maximus 2 formula and love it. im having one problem though. im trying to install a 64 bit os and it doesnt work. all my 32 bit os's work. is there something i have to change in the bios? thanks

I had the same problem, I just popped the cd out a few times and it finally worked :up:

[psychopath]

I
I have:

FSB: 400
FSB Termination vontage: 1.25v
PLL: 1.51
NB: 1.20
SV: 1.10

and my NB have 90º... what is the problem?

[andressergio]

Hey guys

How's this board with the Q6600's I'm on the settings of my signature on a P5K deluxe...

Do you think it's a good board to go for ?
I was lookin' at the rampage and the P5Q deluxe but this one seems very good

Cheers
Sergio

[Scinner]

Wel i could not get much higher then 3.6Ghz stable.But on this bord it did need less voltage like less vtt less nb and less vcore.On my mf1 it was 1.42 vtt , 1.51 Nb , and 1.41vcore.With mf2 it was vtt 1.34 Nb 1.41 and vcore 1.38.Now i use E8600 8.5x 500 with very low voltage.So for me this bord was a good buy.

[dctokyo]

lol sorry. well i make it boot from the cd drive and whenever i put in a 64 bit os it says "reboot and select boot device or put in boot media and press a key"

What type of DVD drive are you using?
some people have problems with the IED drives, are you using a SATA DVD drive? If so then I would agree with the other guys, your CD is bad.

[Nasgul]

so........................

For those running a FULL system with this board...........

Is it worth adding the X-Fi sound card included in the bundle or would I be better off with a stand alone (retail version) X-Fi card?

I keep hearing about the card included in the bundle not being as good or still using CPU cycles and not having its own cpu to do the job for it.

[chiman2]

What type of DVD drive are you using?
some people have problems with the IED drives, are you using a SATA DVD drive? If so then I would agree with the other guys, your CD is bad.

sadly im using an ide drive :( so what should i do now.

on another note i decided to do some overclocking and im at 415 fsb. e8500 3.9ghz. around 64 or a little less on load and 46 47 idle. are these temps ok?

[crazyea]

so........................

For those running a FULL system with this board...........

Is it worth adding the X-Fi sound card included in the bundle or would I be better off with a stand alone (retail version) X-Fi card?

I keep hearing about the card included in the bundle not being as good or still using CPU cycles and not having its own cpu to do the job for it.

I found it to be junk, so I went a picked up a Xonar D2X.

[GaBBa-Gandalf]

hi guys, i tested the high fsb again and with 4 x 1 gb ram....
its pretty good @ 505 MHz .... but i dont come higher, i think there is a cpu-fsbwall... (dont look for the cpu voltage... usually the cpu need just 1,25V for this mhz...

http://www.abload.de/thumb/ram_505_mhzkopieii0.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=ram_505_mhzkopieii0.jpg)

[dctokyo]

sadly im using an ide drive :( so what should i do now.

on another note i decided to do some overclocking and im at 415 fsb. e8500 3.9ghz. around 64 or a little less on load and 46 47 idle. are these temps ok?
Have you enable the J-Micron controller? You will need this set to enable to run PATA drives.

Well it depends on your room temps, I have mine running at 3.8 at it runs around 42 to 44 as reported by HW-monitor but PC probe 2 reports it around 30 to 32. But I have a very air-flow case in the CM Cosmos-S

[dctokyo]

so........................

For those running a FULL system with this board...........

Is it worth adding the X-Fi sound card included in the bundle or would I be better off with a stand alone (retail version) X-Fi card?

I keep hearing about the card included in the bundle not being as good or still using CPU cycles and not having its own cpu to do the job for it.



The card that comes wiht the board is not a true x-fi, it depends on software support.
Not sure about the card included in the bundle as I have not used it as I am running a PCI-e Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty .......... and that card sounds great.

[Leeghoofd]

I
I have:

FSB: 400
FSB Termination vontage: 1.25v
PLL: 1.51
NB: 1.20
SV: 1.10

and my NB have 90º... what is the problem?

get the heatsink off , reapply paste (arctic ceramique) and put a washer to put more pressure on the springs so the NB is really tied down... it has bad contact mate at the moment and is not good to continue to use the board under these conditions... you will smoke it

[WaterFlex]

Hello guys. I tested my M2F and i want to say: M2F <<< MF. I can`t make PL=8 as i could reach with MF with full stable!

[Solarfall]

I
I have:

FSB: 400
FSB Termination vontage: 1.25v
PLL: 1.51
NB: 1.20
SV: 1.10

and my NB have 90º... what is the problem?

your NB block has a bad contact with the nb chip.. i had the same problem. you can fix this by taking off the whole nb heatsink, then clean off the thermal paste and put new layer of it to the heatsink.. then when you put your heatsink back to your board, put 2 washers where the 2 heatsink holes are located, fasten all the screws and your ready to rock :up:

[Leeghoofd]

Hello guys. I tested my M2F and i want to say: M2F <<< MF. I can`t make PL=8 as i could reach with MF with full stable!

There's more to life then PL8... P45 is known to have a slightly higher PL value but it's performance is comparable, do you notice the difference in day to day apps ? in Superpi yep... try static read control enable pull in etc...

[ChaosAD]

WaterFlex do u have any everest mem benchmarks to compare? Is PL8 really give lower performance in M2F? Maybe P45 chipset is supposed to work this way, i dodnt know though.

[ChaosAD]

The card that comes wiht the board is not a true x-fi, it depends on software support.
Not sure about the card included in the bundle as I have not used it as I am running a PCI-e Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty .......... and that card sounds great.

Dctokyo how do u like your titanium fatality? Did u have any driver issues since i see in your sig you run 64bit windows. I cant make my mind between X-Fi titanium fatality or Asus Xonar D2X.

[WaterFlex]

This is Maximus Formula with PL=8:
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9463/motherboarddu3.png

And this is Maximus II Formula with PL=9:
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/6660/p45pl9ab1.png

and it is very very stable http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/5748/screenshotdu6.th.jpg (http://img76.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotdu6.jpg)

[WaterFlex]

Btw, are my volts and temps OK ?

[dctokyo]

Dctokyo how do u like your titanium fatality? Did u have any driver issues since i see in your sig you run 64bit windows. I cant make my mind between X-Fi titanium fatality or Asus Xonar D2X.

Hi ChaosAD, I really like my titanium fatality and I have no drivers problems running xp/64 with the lastest drivers.

I mostly play BF2 and the sounds really jump out in that game with the titanium fatality.

I got the titanium fatality because it came with the front IO console.

On this board I use the first PCI-e 1 slot which is the black one so it sits above my video card.

[ChaosAD]

WaterFlex thanx for the screenshots. It seems to have a liittle drop, but there may be a bios setting to overcome this difference.
Dctokyo thanx for the reply. It seems that i ll also go for the X-Fi titanium fatality.

Do u guyz think that if i choose this mobo the best combination would me a E8600 or a Q9550?

[Grnfinger]

WaterFlex thanx for the screenshots. It seems to have a liittle drop, but there may be a bios setting to overcome this difference.
Dctokyo thanx for the reply. It seems that i ll also go for the X-Fi titanium fatality.

Do u guyz think that if i choose this mobo the best combination would me a E8600 or a Q9550?

I have both chips and I'm trying to make that decsion right now.
I like the power of a quad but the higher c2d clocks will be nice.
I should have some benches and screenies today.
The bios has alot more options than MFI/Rampage so its a learning day today.
Took maybe 1/2 hour to get my 9550 stable at 450x8.5 where on the MF board I could not get it above 425! Still have to lower a few volts but for the most part I'm happy with 3825MHz

[ChaosAD]

I have both chips and I'm trying to make that decsion right now.
I like the power of a quad but the higher c2d clocks will be nice.
I should have some benches and screenies today.
The bios has alot more options than MFI/Rampage so its a learning day today.
Took maybe 1/2 hour to get my 9550 stable at 450x8.5 where on the MF board I could not get it above 425! Still have to lower a few volts but for the most part I'm happy with 3825MHz

Even running a Q9550@3800, if i m lucky on the chip ofc, i guess its much faster that a q6600@3600. I wouldnt really like to downgrade from 4 cores down to 2 tbh although 4+Ghz sounds sweet :) Plz post benchmarks with Q6600+q9550+e8600 both at same clock speeds+at max clock speeds. I know its time consuming but c'mon u have all day for it :p:

Do u also experience the PL issue? Can u run it as low as the MF1 board? Can u run 400 strap?

[Grnfinger]

Even running a Q9550@3800, if i m lucky on the chip ofc, i guess its much faster that a q6600@3600. I wouldnt really like to downgrade from 4 cores down to 2 tbh although 4+Ghz sounds sweet :) Plz post benchmarks with Q6600+q9550+e8600 both at same clock speeds+at max clock speeds. I know its time consuming but c'mon u have all day for it :p:

Do u also experience the PL issue? Can u run it as low as the MF1 board? Can u run 400 strap?

I honestly dont know what PL setting I'm running.
My everest is version 4.50.1330 and its reports "unkown motherboard"
So I'm currently sniffing for a release that supports this board.
I'm sure with pull ins enabled I can get to PL 7 or atleast 8.

I cant show you benches of a 6600, sold it long ago, BUT I can show 6700:D
It should be close enough.
Gotta cut the grass:shakes: then I'll start swapping cpus and run some tests

[mr-rob]

Even running a Q9550@3800, if i m lucky on the chip ofc, i guess its much faster that a q6600@3600. I wouldnt really like to downgrade from 4 cores down to 2 tbh although 4+Ghz sounds sweet :) Plz post benchmarks with Q6600+q9550+e8600 both at same clock speeds+at max clock speeds. I know its time consuming but c'mon u have all day for it :p:

Do u also experience the PL issue? Can u run it as low as the MF1 board? Can u run 400 strap?
:D It's quite sure that running at 3800 is better than 3600 :ROTF:
There's no big deal running a lower PL, unless you absolutly want to SuperPI.
Clock2Clock Q45nm Vs Q65nm is a little better and run colder. But cost a lot more.

e8xxx with 4ghz and more is just for fun... If you just play and to basic stuffs it's nice. Just try to encode video @ 4Ghz with a C2D...-> a "poor" Q6600@3.6Ghz will perform better.

:D

[ChaosAD]

Gotta cut the grass:shakes: then I'll start swapping cpus and run some tests

Oh, you dont have kids to do the job for you? U must be more strict i think ;)
Yep 6700 will also do the job np.

[Grnfinger]

Oh, you dont have kids to do the job for you? U must be more strict i think ;)
Yep 6700 will also do the job np.

My kids are 3 and 9, not to much help there:rofl:

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/3825.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/pl8MFII.png

Working on tighter timing and lower PL.
Very pleased so far, couldnt get my Quad to post past 425FSB on the Maximus. Have not tried anything higher yet, will try 500x8 shortly.

[chiman2]

Have you enable the J-Micron controller? You will need this set to enable to run PATA drives.

Well it depends on your room temps, I have mine running at 3.8 at it runs around 42 to 44 as reported by HW-monitor but PC probe 2 reports it around 30 to 32. But I have a very air-flow case in the CM Cosmos-S


where do i go to enable the J-Micron controller? i mean the drive will play anything else. just wont use 64 bit discs.

i also notice you have the zalman 9700. is it suppose to be able to twist around?

[ChaosAD]

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/pl8MFII.png

Working on tighter timing and lower PL.
Very pleased so far, couldnt get my Quad to post past 425FSB on the Maximus. Have not tried anything higher yet, will try 500x8 shortly.

I dont really like the ram performance on everest. Latency seems to high :shrug:
Waiting for 8x500 stability/bench:up:

I aslo see u run a C1 stepping chip. Anyone know if the newer E0 will be better performers?

[Grnfinger]

I dont really like the ram performance on everest. Latency seems to high :shrug:
Waiting for 8x500 stability/bench:up:

I aslo see u run a C1 stepping chip. Anyone know if the newer E0 will be better performers?

The E0 is better, for sure.
Like I said I have yet to tweak the ram.
Heres a bios setup

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 250ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Advanced 250ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 250ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Advanced 250ps


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : AUTO
MEM OC Charger : AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 110

CPU Voltage : 1.35
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
FSBT : 1.33850
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
North Bridge Voltage : 1.39150
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +10mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : +10mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +20mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[WaterFlex]

Grnfinger, mate, I think it would be better for u to make 500x8 with syncro 1:1. Look my results on the previous page ;)

[ChaosAD]

The only thing for sure is that the required Voltages needed for all components are much lower compared to MF1 for the same amount of OC :)

[WaterFlex]

ChaosAD, I`m agree ;)

[Grnfinger]

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/3dmark-1.jpg

[Grnfinger]

Some ram sub timing tweaks

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/new.png

[WaterFlex]

Grnfinger , do u see my msg above ? :)

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger , do u see my msg above ? :)

yes I will try your suggestion shortly.
Trying to compare old MF settings to new board
My GSkills are limited tho, I might have to grab a new kit on Monday
Wonder if the Mushkin Xtremes work well with this board

[chiman2]

where do i go to enable the J-Micron controller? i mean the drive will play anything else. just wont use 64 bit discs.

i also notice you have the zalman 9700. is it suppose to be able to twist around?

any one i need help badly.:mad:

[Grnfinger]

any one i need help badly.:mad:

whats your troubles?

[chiman2]

ok im trying to instal a 64 bit os and it wont let me. i set the boot priority to the cd drive. put my disc in and it wont work it says "reboot and select correct boot device or put in boot media in selected device and press a key" my 32 bit os disks work though? do i have to change a setting? im stuck. i really need to get a 64 bit os on.

[Grnfinger]

ok im trying to instal a 64 bit os and it wont let me. i set the boot priority to the cd drive. put my disc in and it wont work it says "reboot and select correct boot device or put in boot media in selected device and press a key" my 32 bit os disks work though? do i have to change a setting? im stuck. i really need to get a 64 bit os on.

The only time I had this issue is when I left a USB stick in the rig.
I installed Vista 64bit without changing ANY bios setting, I set my drives to raid and everything installed correctly.

Can the disk be read on another pc?

another thing you can try is... pop the cd inthe tray and while the pc is posting press F8 key till you get the boot options and select your cd rom to boot from.

[kup]

any one i need help badly.:mad:

Chi, you gotta read the manual!!! Everything you're getting stuck on is in there...

At a guess, not owning the board myself (yet :D, Grnfinger I'm coming out to play!!!) you want the Onboard Device Configuration menu, it's in there.

[chiman2]

The only time I had this issue is when I left a USB stick in the rig.
I installed Vista 64bit without changing ANY bios setting, I set my drives to raid and everything installed correctly.

Can the disk be read on another pc?

another thing you can try is... pop the cd inthe tray and while the pc is posting press F8 key till you get the boot options and select your cd rom to boot from.

this is my only computer capable of 64 bit. maybe i should try reseting cmos?

i was checking the manual looking for a phone number to call and i found this.

intel em64t


o yea what bios are you running?
the motherboard comes with a bios file that supports em64t. you can download the latest bios file from the asus website (www.asus.com/support/download/) but that url doesnt work.

i will try f8 and onboard device config. thanks

will report back in 5 mins so stay tuned.:)

[chiman2]

:confused:pressed f8 didnt work. reset bios didnt work. checked on board devices ide thing was enabled the whole time so that didnt work.

should i call asus tech support?

[Grnfinger]

:confused:pressed f8 didnt work. reset bios didnt work. checked on board devices ide thing was enabled the whole time so that didnt work.

should i call asus tech support?

What bios version are you running?
A call to Asus would not hurt but I find it strange that it wont boot that disk but it will boot 32bit disk.
I'm still leaning towards the media being corrupt, but without another pc to check it:shrug:

USA ASUS phone number is 510.739.3777 option 2
Good luck!

[chiman2]

im on 802 bios. they dont have a toll free number? is there any chance where something was wrong to the point i would have to rma it or is that not applicable here? i would rather not rma it

[Grnfinger]

im on 802 bios. they dont have a toll free number? is there any chance where something was wrong to the point i would have to rma it or is that not applicable here? i would rather not rma it

Asus wont be opend till Monday now, I'm not sure about a toll free number.
If the mobo will install a 32bit OS then I highly doubt its a faulty board but I could be wrong on this.

You could start a thread in hopes someone has encounterd this problem b4 and can point you to the soloution, it wouldnt hurt any. I honestly dont have any suggestions

[genec57]

It is pretty clear that your 64bit os cd disk is not booting. I can't thinks of any way that this could be a mobo issue. If another os cd will boot and this one wont it is pretty clear to me. If you want a definitive test try to start the cd on another computer. It it starts there is a problem with your pc - if not . . . .

[chiman2]

so if it boots on another pc then what could be wrong with this pc?

[genec57]

cd/dvd drive?

[chiman2]

.....a cd drive would install a 32 bit os but not a 64 bit os? how would it know the difference. a disc is a disc?

[genec57]

Likewise, how would the mother board know the difference. You asked, I answered.

[chiman2]

Likewise, how would the mother board know the difference. You asked, I answered.

um.....what was the point of this. im asking for help and your trying to prove me wrong?:confused: im just trying to find out why i cant install a 64 bit os. your smart *** attitude doesnt really help my situation. ive tried multiple 64 bit os discs none of them worked. and i just confirmed right now that one of the 64 bit vista discs i had worked.

[Grnfinger]

It is pretty clear that your 64bit os cd disk is not booting. I can't thinks of any way that this could be a mobo issue. If another os cd will boot and this one wont it is pretty clear to me. If you want a definitive test try to start the cd on another computer. It it starts there is a problem with your pc - if not . . . .

OT
How do you like bios 901?
I'm running 701 and was going to work my way up 802 then 901.
I have heard mixed reviews with 901, did you encounter any issues?

[genec57]

OT
How do you like bios 901?
I'm running 701 and was going to work my way up 802 then 901.
I have heard mixed reviews with 901, did you encounter any issues?

I have had no problems with it but it has been on and off the asus site for the past week which concerns me. If 802 works well for you it is probably best to stay with it. I had problems with resuming from sleep with the older bioses that 901 resolved for me.

[crazyea]

um.....what was the point of this. im asking for help and your trying to prove me wrong?:confused: im just trying to find out why i cant install a 64 bit os. your smart *** attitude doesnt really help my situation. ive tried multiple 64 bit os discs none of them worked. and i just confirmed right now that one of the 64 bit vista discs i had worked.

So you had access to multiple 64bit discs? Are you downloading them from the net? Maybe that is your problem right there. Also you say none of them worked, but now one worked? Whats up with that????? How can we help when you are not clear?

[Lloyd]

so if it boots on another pc then what could be wrong with this pc?

On my Maximus Extreme i had a similar issue - and that was RAM related

[chiman2]

So you had access to multiple 64bit discs? Are you downloading them from the net? Maybe that is your problem right there. Also you say none of them worked, but now one worked? Whats up with that????? How can we help when you are not clear?

ok sorry. ill try to clear this up about. i have 2 64 bit os. vista and xp. they wouldnt work on my computer. but i decided to let my friend try one of them and it worked on his. and im sorry. im just frustrated and angry.


i am running corsair dominator ddr2 1066 4gb 2x2. should i take out one stick and try it?

thanks for all you guys help. again sorry for getting angry.

[xzulu]

Question regarding the bolt mod....I noticed that the M2F that I got had a thicker plastic washer for the NB. Do I still have to add another one? Well, my tempsare around 40-44C Idle depends on my room temp, and on load is around 54-58C depends also on my room temp. I already changed the paste on the NB and SB chipsets. And I also noticed that there are long screws and short screws. My board had 5 long screws and 7 short screws.

My friend also has the board, both of us got our boards the same time and the same store, but he had only 3 long screws and 9 short screws. Really weird....

Im also changing my TR Ultima90 to a TR SI-128 SE. The Ultima90 just doesn't leave enough air for the components around the CPU. At least the SI-128 SE would cool the cpu at the same time the NB and PWM mosfets...

Thanks in advance

[Gambit_2K]

ok im trying to instal a 64 bit os and it wont let me. i set the boot priority to the cd drive. put my disc in and it wont work it says "reboot and select correct boot device or put in boot media in selected device and press a key" my 32 bit os disks work though? do i have to change a setting? im stuck. i really need to get a 64 bit os on.

Im having problems too but my problem is that the installation stops and gives me an error saying that my CPU dosen't support 64 bit instructions and im trying to install a 64 bit version of Windows (not the actual error message but similar).

I've tried both Vista64 Ultimate and Business. Both discs work on my other computer.

Any one heard of this problem?

[mr-rob]

Question regarding the bolt mod....I noticed that the M2F that I got had a thicker plastic washer for the NB. Do I still have to add another one? Well, my tempsare around 40-44C Idle depends on my room temp, and on load is around 54-58C depends also on my room temp.
Just try to push on lightly with your finger your NB's coolong block-> If the temp' drops, you may need to add another washer in order to have a better contact on it.
:)

[xzulu]

Just try to push on lightly with your finger your NB's coolong block-> If the temp' drops, you may need to add another washer in order to have a better contact on it.
:)

Alright, I'll try that out. Thanks Rob!:)

[Grnfinger]

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/9550_4000.jpg

:bounces:

[genec57]

OT
How do you like bios 901?
I'm running 701 and was going to work my way up 802 then 901.
I have heard mixed reviews with 901, did you encounter any issues?

I thought I was having no issues but I have started getting really wacked out temp and voltage reports on PC Probe - I mean really insane like Vcore of 95 and sudden CPU temp over a hundred. Not a problem with PC Probe because Everest reports the same nutty temps/volts. It can be vcore, then cpupll, then vdimm, etc.
Anybody else seen this.
I hate to go back to earlier bios because then sleep resumption gets buggered.

[Grnfinger]

I thought I was having no issues but I have started getting really wacked out temp and voltage reports on PC Probe - I mean really insane like Vcore of 95 and sudden CPU temp over a hundred. Not a problem with PC Probe because Everest reports the same nutty temps/volts. It can be vcore, then cpupll, then vdimm, etc.
Anybody else seen this.
I hate to go back to earlier bios because then sleep resumption gets buggered.

hmmm, I'm running 701 ( shipping version ) and have had no issues with it so far, S3 works for me, so maybe I wont fix whats not broken and stay on 701 till a newer bios is released.

[chiman2]

Im having problems too but my problem is that the installation stops and gives me an error saying that my CPU dosen't support 64 bit instructions and im trying to install a 64 bit version of Windows (not the actual error message but similar).

I've tried both Vista64 Ultimate and Business. Both discs work on my other computer.

Any one heard of this problem?


i have tried one ram stick in each slot and it still didnt work. ive changed the dvd drive. no go. i dont know what else to think. im starting to think its bios related. what bios are you running? im runningn 802 which is what it shipped with for me

[Grnfinger]

Im having problems too but my problem is that the installation stops and gives me an error saying that my CPU dosen't support 64 bit instructions and im trying to install a 64 bit version of Windows (not the actual error message but similar).

I've tried both Vista64 Ultimate and Business. Both discs work on my other computer.

Any one heard of this problem?



i have tried one ram stick in each slot and it still didnt work. ive changed the dvd drive. no go. i dont know what else to think. im starting to think its bios related. what bios are you running? im runningn 802 which is what it shipped with for me

What cpu's are you guys running.
If its the new E0 stepping upgrading to bios 901 might solve your problem.
I installed using a 9550 no problems, but I just toss'd in my 8600 and now its :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ing at me about "unsupported cpu" perhaps this is your problem?

I see Gambit has an E8500 is it the new E0 stepping?

[crazyea]

What cpu's are you guys running.
If its the new E0 stepping upgrading to bios 901 might solve your problem.
I installed using a 9550 no problems, but I just toss'd in my 8600 and now its :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ing at me about "unsupported cpu" perhaps this is your problem?

I see Gambit has an E8500 is it the new E0 stepping?

They both seem to be running e8500's. The 901 bios "Supports New CPU". Maybe you are right.

[chiman2]

i also have an e8500 with the C0 stepping. so its not the new processor. should i still try to update the bios?

also where does it say unsupported processor? whenever i try to install a 64 bit os. i make it so it can only boot from the cd drive. so when it tries to boot and it doest it says "please reboot and select correct boot device or insert boot media in the selected boot device and press a key"

[Grnfinger]

ahh it was a shot in the dark

[dctokyo]

The 802 BIOS added support to the E8600 and other E0 stepping CPU`s.
Also I started getting really wacked out temp and voltage reports on PC Probe as some other guy`s reported here. I my voltage never changes, it always show 3.1444

[dctokyo]

where do i go to enable the J-Micron controller? i mean the drive will play anything else. just wont use 64 bit discs.

i also notice you have the zalman 9700. is it suppose to be able to twist around?
You can use the Zalman 9700 with the fan blowing to the rear or up, it depends on your case. I am using a Comos-S with 3 top fans so my cooler is facing down to push the air to the top of the case.

[dctokyo]

any one i need help badly.:mad:
Are you using Vista and not Vista/SP1, because Vista has problems if you use more than 3 GB of RAM.

If your using more than 3 GB`s then Remove 2 GB of RAM, and then restart the installation process. After Windows Vista is installed, reinstall the RAM.

Link
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929777

[chiman2]

i jsut thought of something. lets say your on a 32 bit os. if you put in a 64 bit disc will it run the setup menu? like autostart?

[chiman2]

i have tried vista and xp though. they both dont work? ive tried all the ram configurations possible. still nothing

[dctokyo]

i have tried vista and xp though. they both dont work? ive tried all the ram configurations possible. still nothing

Hi chiman2, please provide a signature listing your hardware, this helps us too help you with problems/solutions.

[chiman2]

updated hope it helps

[dctokyo]

updated hope it helps


I see your using more than 3 GB`s of ram.
Are you using Vista and not Vista/SP1, because Vista has problems if you use more than 3 GB of RAM.
Please remove 2GB`s of ram and use only one HDD to see if you can load the OS, then after you can add the extra HDD and ram.

[chiman2]

i have tried vista and xp though. they both dont work? ive tried all the ram configurations possible. still nothing

ive tried one ram stick which would be 2gb still didnt work. ive also tried the one hdd thing. still didnt work.

[Ellipsys]

Hello all. I was wondering if someone could give me a hand in OCing on my new Maximus II Formula - I know the basics of overclocking, but Asus uses different "Asus-ese" names for basic things like the divider and whatnot, that I'm afraid to mess with a setting, unsure that it really does what I think it does. Here is my basic hardware setup.

CPU - Q6600 currently at stock, cooled by a TRUE Black w/ Scythe S-Flex. I know I've been able to take the proc to 3.0ghz in the past, with 9x333 and underclocking my RAM through a divider. I think I was at about 1.3v on previous board voltage.
Mobo - Maximus II Formula, 0802 BIOS. Just about everything is "stock" or "auto" so far.
RAM - Gskill 2x 2GB DDR2800 (CAS5). I think I was at 1.9v, on previous board, or "auto".

I'd like to take my proc to 3.0, or perhaps 3.2. I'm worried my RAM will limit me, beyond that.

Could anyone be kind enough to paste a complete starting point for the proper settings, as has been done before in this thread? Is there any other information that I can offer? I appreciate your time.

[chiman2]

hmmm. i noticed something. it says x86 family? could this mean anything?

[dctokyo]

hmmm. i noticed something. it says x86 family? could this mean anything?

Nope, that is ok, the cpu is a x86 base but it will run 64 bits OS`s.

Have you tried a SATA DVD drive instead of the IED one?
Also what SATA ports are you using.

SATA 1 to 6 and you have 2 speeding SATA ports
PS/ SpeedEnhancement HDD should be set to disabled

Make sure that the copy of the CD with Vista on it has no bad sector errors , try to re-burn Vista x64 disc again using another PC at 1x speed, and then verify that the DVD did burn successfully, just because the copy worked on your friends pc does not mean it will work on your DVD

[chiman2]

im using a xp 64 bit to eliminate ram errors. im on the first sata ports. speeding hdd is off. i dont have access to a sata dvd drive though.

[xzulu]

Hello all. I was wondering if someone could give me a hand in OCing on my new Maximus II Formula - I know the basics of overclocking, but Asus uses different "Asus-ese" names for basic things like the divider and whatnot, that I'm afraid to mess with a setting, unsure that it really does what I think it does. Here is my basic hardware setup.

CPU - Q6600 currently at stock, cooled by a TRUE Black w/ Scythe S-Flex. I know I've been able to take the proc to 3.0ghz in the past, with 9x333 and underclocking my RAM through a divider. I think I was at about 1.3v on previous board voltage.
Mobo - Maximus II Formula, 0802 BIOS. Just about everything is "stock" or "auto" so far.
RAM - Gskill 2x 2GB DDR2800 (CAS5). I think I was at 1.9v, on previous board, or "auto".

I'd like to take my proc to 3.0, or perhaps 3.2. I'm worried my RAM will limit me, beyond that.

Could anyone be kind enough to paste a complete starting point for the proper settings, as has been done before in this thread? Is there any other information that I can offer? I appreciate your time.

Hey dude! Well, with my previous board the Asus P5K-E Wifi/AP I ran my G.Skill DDR2-1000 2x2GB 2.1v rating at 1066 1.9v. I tried running the same voltages but had problems with OCCT and Orthos. and when playing games I crash to desktop after a few minutes into the game. Now I run them at 2.0v and I dont get crashes anymore.

[dctokyo]

im using a xp 64 bit to eliminate ram errors. im on the first sata ports. speeding hdd is off. i dont have access to a sata dvd drive though.
Sorry I was taking about your Vista CD, if you made a copy then the CD could have errors, that is why I would re-burn it.

Also place the HDD that will hold your OS on SATA 1 and update your BIOS to 0901 if you have not to see if this is the problem also.

I am running XP/64 with no problems.

You never said if you are using just Vista without SP1 or not, If only Vista, then you should slipstream SP1 into a new CD or DVD

[Gambit_2K]

What cpu's are you guys running.
If its the new E0 stepping upgrading to bios 901 might solve your problem.
I installed using a 9550 no problems, but I just toss'd in my 8600 and now its :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ing at me about "unsupported cpu" perhaps this is your problem?

I see Gambit has an E8500 is it the new E0 stepping?

Nope it's a C0 according to CPU-Z, but im gonna try the 902 bios. Btw when I run VirtualPC and try to install my Vista DVD or image I get the same error. Im using Sp1. With my old RD600 board and this exact CPU I hade no problems so it's something new with the maximus 2 board.

[chiman2]

Sorry I was taking about your Vista CD, if you made a copy then the CD could have errors, that is why I would re-burn it.

Also place the HDD that will hold your OS on SATA 1 and update your BIOS to 0901 if you have not to see if this is the problem also.

I am running XP/64 with no problems.

You never said if you are using just Vista without SP1 or not, If only Vista, then you should slipstream SP1 into a new CD or DVD

i have decided that im just gonna get xp 64 bit to work instead of vista so i dont have problems with the ram and can elminate that. but i verified the cd works. right now i am on xp 32 bit. i am also on 901 bios. and it still doesnt work.

[Grnfinger]

i have decided that im just gonna get xp 64 bit to work instead of vista so i dont have problems with the ram and can elminate that. but i verified the cd works. right now i am on xp 32 bit. i am also on 901 bios. and it still doesnt work.

What do you mean "still dosent work"

So if I understand you correctly, you've installed a 32bit os and then check'd the 64bit os cd in this rig and the disk dosent work??

[chiman2]

What do you mean "still dosent work"

So if I understand you correctly, you've installed a 32bit os and then check'd the 64bit os cd in this rig and the disk dosent work??

it "still doesnt work" the 64 bit disc works. the computer wont boot from it though.......... im on a 32 bit operating system right now....

[Grnfinger]

What did Asus have to say?

[malik22]

Hi guys I might get this mobo and wanted to know if it had vdroop and will it have any issues with the 4870X2 cause I heard some mobos give no signal with this card.

[chiman2]

What did Asus have to say?

since they dont have a toll free number.....i called with my cell phone. first time......all technicians busy. second time i get through. guy is helpful decides he will think of everything. but my phoen freaking dies......lose connection. call again. this guy...hes like nope theres nothing wrong with the motherboard. and he doesnt even help to think of a reason why this might be happening.....i hope i will get lucky the next time i call and get a good helpful techinician

[Grnfinger]

Hi guys I might get this mobo and wanted to know if it had vdroop and will it have any issues with the 4870X2 cause I heard some mobos give no signal with this card.

vdroop is non existant with LLC enabled, I dont have a 4870X2 but the 3870X2 works just fine.


since they dont have a toll free number.....i called with my cell phone. first time......all technicians busy. second time i get through. guy is helpful decides he will think of everything. but my phoen freaking dies......lose connection. call again. this guy...hes like nope theres nothing wrong with the motherboard. and he doesnt even help to think of a reason why this might be happening.....i hope i will get lucky the next time i call and get a good helpful techinician

Please post the EXACT error msg

[chiman2]

.....i have to have said this like 20 times in this topic. seroiusly. the EXACT message it says when i try to boot from a 64 bit disc is. "Reboot and select proper boot media or insert boot media in the selected boot device and press a key" that isnt really an error message as a message saying that it doesnt see the 64 bit disc as bootable.

[motopen1s]

Hey guys, I need your recommendation please.

I am building couple of rigs for friends now and one is having a rather budget system. I though of a build with e8400 on a budget p45 board but then... My mind crossed the idea that I could just as well pass him my q9450 and get myself either q9550 E0 or q9650. Well, now I am also thinking if I should just give him my mobo+cpu+RAM (I bought 8gb, so 4 are just dusting at the moment).

Question: do you think it make sense to get Maximus II Formula over the Rampage that I have now? I am not going to run more then one gpu in the future. All I care is max overclock of the cpu. I was thinking about remounting the heatsink on my Rampage (to lower NB and work on overclock) and that is something that I will be doing in case if I do get Maximus II.

That cooler(?) P45 chipset, some more bios options (and seems like better overclocks for quad) as well as (just have to mention it) the super sexy look of the board - makes me want to have it my hands. :)


Most likely I will be getting q9550 E0 if I will be able to find one. If not, will "have to" spend a little on q9650. Still have some time to think everything over (till next week).

Also, price wise - it will cost me nothing if I get q9550 and Maximus II Formula; ~60 Euro if I live Rampage and get q9650; ~150 Euro if I get both Maximus II Formula and q9650.

My logic tells me that ~475FSB on Maximus II Formula with a q9550 E0 should be achievable (to get to 4GHz). The other force that makes you spend money while going out without really realizing what for - tells me I should spend that 150 Euro. :)

What kind of xtreme should I go for? :p:

[Scinner]

Maybe some stupid remark from me but did you select that HD @ first boot device?

[Grnfinger]

Hey guys, I need your recommendation please.

I am building couple of rigs for friends now and one is having a rather budget system. I though of a build with e8400 on a budget p45 board but then... My mind crossed the idea that I could just as well pass him my q9450 and get myself either q9550 E0 or q9650. Well, now I am also thinking if I should just give him my mobo+cpu+RAM (I bought 8gb, so 4 are just dusting at the moment).

Question: do you think it make sense to get Maximus II Formula over the Rampage that I have now? I am not going to run more then one gpu in the future. All I care is max overclock of the cpu. I was thinking about remounting the heatsink on my Rampage (to lower NB and work on overclock) and that is something that I will be doing in case if I do get Maximus II.

That cooler(?) P45 chipset, some more bios options (and seems like better overclocks for quad) as well as (just have to mention it) the super sexy look of the board - makes me want to have it my hands. :)


Most likely I will be getting q9550 E0 if I will be able to find one. If not, will "have to" spend a little on q9650. Still have some time to think everything over (till next week).

Also, price wise - it will cost me nothing if I get q9550 and Maximus II Formula; ~60 Euro if I live Rampage and get q9650; ~150 Euro if I get both Maximus II Formula and q9650.

My logic tells me that ~475FSB on Maximus II Formula with a q9550 E0 should be achievable (to get to 4GHz). The other force that makes you spend money while going out without really realizing what for - tells me I should spend that 150 Euro. :)

What kind of xtreme should I go for? :p:

Well this is Xtreme Systems not mediocre systems.
I was right where you are last week. Now I have a Maximus II Formula and a Q9550 @ 4.0GHz:D


.....i have to have said this like 20 times in this topic. seroiusly. the EXACT message it says when i try to boot from a 64 bit disc is. "Reboot and select proper boot media or insert boot media in the selected boot device and press a key" that isnt really an error message as a message saying that it doesnt see the 64 bit disc as bootable.

We are trying to help you perhaps leave your attitude for you mom.
So seriously I actually feel bad for you and I honestly want to help so I called Asus myself.
This what they suggest
1. Insert your motherboard cd and boot from it. If it boots there is NOTHING wrong with your motherboard.
2. If you have both IDE HDD and a IDE CD/DVD Rom on the same ribbon put them on seperate ribbons and retry.
3. If the pc will boot from any other cd then your 64bit disk is not being read as "bootable" and you need a NEW source to boot from.

So there is really not much more that can be done, your going to have to live with 32bit or grab a new 64bit Vista someplace, cause as we all said from the start its really looking like a faulty Vista disk.

[VoRtAn_MaDgE]

quick test, daily 24/7 config&speed

4x1gb:D

cpu-z reports ddr3 but ddr2 (known bug)

timmings not to tight

http://i35.tinypic.com/wjugap.jpg

How much fsb are you guys reaching using the 4 memory banks?
565fsb so far, got to try max fsb on this mobo!

Really lovin' it :)

i guess it would smoke my last dfi p35 dk-t2rs (602fsb)

[dctokyo]

.....i have to have said this like 20 times in this topic. seroiusly. the EXACT message it says when i try to boot from a 64 bit disc is. "Reboot and select proper boot media or insert boot media in the selected boot device and press a key" that isnt really an error message as a message saying that it doesnt see the 64 bit disc as bootable.


chiman2, it that a orginal Vista disk or a copy? I mention before if it is a copy then I think the copy has errors on it and I mention you should re-burn a new copy. At this point it really sounds like the Vista DVD is bad.

[dctokyo]

motopen1s, if your not going to go crossfire then get the ASUS Maximus II Formula. I went with the ASUS Maximus II Formula over the Rampage because of the dual BIOS and and other small points.

[WaterFlex]

motopen1s, if your not going to go crossfire then get the ASUS Maximus II Formula. I went with the ASUS Maximus II Formula over the Rampage because of the dual BIOS and and other small points.

:up:the same for me

[motopen1s]

Thanks for the advice guys. Maximus II - here I come. :)

[chiman2]

Well this is Xtreme Systems not mediocre systems.
I was right where you are last week. Now I have a Maximus II Formula and a Q9550 @ 4.0GHz:D



We are trying to help you perhaps leave your attitude for you mom.
So seriously I actually feel bad for you and I honestly want to help so I called Asus myself.
This what they suggest
1. Insert your motherboard cd and boot from it. If it boots there is NOTHING wrong with your motherboard.
2. If you have both IDE HDD and a IDE CD/DVD Rom on the same ribbon put them on seperate ribbons and retry.
3. If the pc will boot from any other cd then your 64bit disk is not being read as "bootable" and you need a NEW source to boot from.

So there is really not much more that can be done, your going to have to live with 32bit or grab a new 64bit Vista someplace, cause as we all said from the start its really looking like a faulty Vista disk.


chiman2, it that a orginal Vista disk or a copy? I mention before if it is a copy then I think the copy has errors on it and I mention you should re-burn a new copy. At this point it really sounds like the Vista DVD is bad.


i actually called them too. the first time i called the guy was helpful tried to help me think of things. like maybe ram or something. then my phone died. called again this time the guy gave me the answer that you got.

my hard drives are all sata. the os drive is in sata 1. i have one ide device it is the dvd drive. i am using a 64 bit windows xp disc. that has been confirmed to work on another computer. sorry for my attituded. im just frustrated... so i think i might call again today and hope i get someone who is willing to go farther to help me..

could there be a jumper of some sort that i have to change on the board?

edit: even though there might be "nothign" wrong with the motherboard there could be some setting that i need to change or soemthing i need to do to run a 64 bit os. there are some motherboards where you have to activate em64t.

[radaja]

chapter three-page 26 in manual says memory remap feature to enabled only when installing 64 bit os.could this maybe be the problem?

[chiman2]

awww. i thought you were right tooo.... it was already enabled. thanks though. ill keep looking

[radaja]

sorry, good luck

[crazyea]

awww. i thought you were right tooo.... it was already enabled. thanks though. ill keep looking

Do you by any chance have, or had a usb drive or memory stick attached? I went to do a fresh install today on my board, 32 bit though, and I had all kinds of trouble getting it to boot the os install disc. The same error you are experiencing was happening to me. No matter how many times I went into the bios (802 btw) and arranged the boot order it would fail. The only thing that helped was to remove the usb drive, power down and start up again. Then after that the os install disc booted, and I could install. Obviously there is a problem with the maximus II formula itself or the bios. My guess is this bios as I never had any trouble like this before. Obviously what is happening to you is not restricted to you, as I have now experienced the phenomenon for myself.

[Legacy]

I need some help with my Overclock ! I wanna Try and get this chip to 3.8 or even 4 GHz

Currently running a Q9450 470x7.5 Stable using these voltages

NB 1.37
FSB 1.33
CPU 1.31
PPL 1.51

GTL's on Auto

If I use the x8 Multiplier using the current voltages I get a Blue Screen.
Any Help would be greatly Appreciated

[Grnfinger]

I need some help with my Overclock ! I wanna Try and get this chip to 3.8 or even 4 GHz

Currently running a Q9450 470x7.5 Stable using these voltages

NB 1.37
FSB 1.33
CPU 1.31
PPL 1.51

GTL's on Auto

If I use the x8 Multiplier using the current voltages I get a Blue Screen.
Any Help would be greatly Appreciated

Try this for starts, it should give you decent bandwidth.
If your going to run 333/941MHz set timing a tad tighter 5-4-4-12 or 4-4-4-12 if you ram can do it. Set PL to 9 if you get a det dram hang and it should boot.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 475
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1141 or run 941 if you ram cant handle 1141 ( set clock skew to auto if you running 941MHz )
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 250ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Advanced 250ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 250ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Advanced 250ps


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : AUTO
MEM OC Charger : AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : Set what you need.
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
FSBT : 1.33850
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
North Bridge Voltage : 1.39150
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +10mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : +10mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +20mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[chiman2]

Do you by any chance have, or had a usb drive or memory stick attached? I went to do a fresh install today on my board, 32 bit though, and I had all kinds of trouble getting it to boot the os install disc. The same error you are experiencing was happening to me. No matter how many times I went into the bios (802 btw) and arranged the boot order it would fail. The only thing that helped was to remove the usb drive, power down and start up again. Then after that the os install disc booted, and I could install. Obviously there is a problem with the maximus II formula itself or the bios. My guess is this bios as I never had any trouble like this before. Obviously what is happening to you is not restricted to you, as I have now experienced the phenomenon for myself.


well my mouse is usb. ill unplug it and try. hopefully it will work. thanks for the suggestion

[electricl]

Hello everybody. This is my first post here but I have been reading for a while. I just got the Maxformula ll and so far its looking good with my Q9450. It will post at 510MHz fsb and I can get into windows with 500MHz fsb, that might not be that extreme around here but my old maximus wouldnt even post at 450Mhz! Now to get it stable:D


Thanks for a nice forum!

[dctokyo]

i am using a 64 bit windows xp disc. that has been confirmed to work on another computer. sorry for my attituded. im just frustrated... so i think i might call again today and hope i get someone who is willing to go farther to help me..


Sorry you still have not answered us is that a original DVD or copy?You do understand that all DVD drives are not the same, even thought it worked in another PC drive it does not mean it will work in yours if it is a copy and not original. Try to use your friends DVD drive that worked........ you should really get rid of that IED drive and go with SATA,

Many people are running 64/bits on this board, It booted right-up out of the box with my XP/SP2 64 bit................and are you trying to install Vista/SP1 or just plain Vista? At least slipstream it to SP1 and give it a shot.

Many people here are telling you to look at your DVD copy, that really sounds like the problem............. If it is a copy and not original then try to find a original copy before saying it is the board and not the DVD.

[Legacy]

Try this for starts, it should give you decent bandwidth.
If your going to run 333/941MHz set timing a tad tighter 5-4-4-12 or 4-4-4-12 if you ram can do it. Set PL to 9 if you get a det dram hang and it should boot.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 475
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1141 or run 941 if you ram cant handle 1141 ( set clock skew to auto if you running 941MHz )
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 250ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Advanced 250ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 250ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Advanced 250ps


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : AUTO
MEM OC Charger : AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : Set what you need.
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
FSBT : 1.33850
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
North Bridge Voltage : 1.39150
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +10mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : +10mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +20mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled


Thanks for the fast response !

I tried those setting and the computer freezes after 2 min running Intel Burn Test.. Ram is running at 1141 2.12V - CPU 1.36V

Any suggestions?

[Grnfinger]

Thanks for the fast response !

I tried those setting and the computer freezes after 2 min running Intel Burn Test.. Ram is running at 1141 2.12V - CPU 1.36V

Any suggestions?

try more vcore, 2 notches at a time.


Hello everybody. This is my first post here but I have been reading for a while. I just got the Maxformula ll and so far its looking good with my Q9450. It will post at 510MHz fsb and I can get into windows with 500MHz fsb, that might not be that extreme around here but my old maximus wouldnt even post at 450Mhz! Now to get it stable:D


Thanks for a nice forum!

:welcome:

[electricl]

Here are my settings Grnfinger.




Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 500
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2 1002MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : A
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : A
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : A
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : A


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : a
Write Recovery Time : a
Read to Precharge Time : a

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : a
Write to Read Delay (S) : a
Write to Read Delay (D) : a
Read to Read Delay (S) : a
Read to Read Delay (D) : a
Write to Write Delay (S) : a
Write to Write Delay (D) : a

Write to PRE Delay : a
Read to PRE Delay : a
PRE to PRE Delay : a
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : a
ALL PRE to REF Delay : a

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : AUTO
MEM OC Charger : AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Auto


PCIE Frequency : 105

CPU Voltage : 1.40000
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.51325
FSBT : 1.40475
DRAM Voltage : 2.13
North Bridge Voltage : 1.56375
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +10mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : +10mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +20mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[Grnfinger]

Here are my settings Grnfinger.


I'll do up a 500X8 template shortly, your current volts seem kinda high tho.
Do you really need all that NB volts ?

[VoRtAn_MaDgE]

Little update...forget pl7 with this fsb

What bios are you guys using? Running 0503 (one that came with mobo)

http://i38.tinypic.com/wirnzm.jpg

[electricl]

I'll do up a 500X8 template shortly, your current volts seem kinda high tho.
Do you really need all that NB volts ?




I have lowered the volts now and it seems fine. :)
Hopefully with your help I'll get it stable att 4GHz.

[WaterFlex]

VoRtAn_MaDgE
Very nice oc ! Great job. Is it stable?

[Ellipsys]

Grnfinger - Do you think you (or anyone else) could help me in OCing my Q6600 G0 as well? My weakest link is some Gskill DDR2-800 (1.8-1.9 rated). I know the proc will do at least 3.0 (probably 3.2 or 3.4), but its the RAM I'm worried about. Perhaps you could tell me how to alter one of your templates? I should probably stick with 9x on a Q6600, right? I see a lot of people using 8x for other procs?

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger - Do you think you (or anyone else) could help me in OCing my Q6600 G0 as well? My weakest link is some Gskill DDR2-800 (1.8-1.9 rated). I know the proc will do at least 3.0 (probably 3.2 or 3.4), but its the RAM I'm worried about. Perhaps you could tell me how to alter one of your templates? I should probably stick with 9x on a Q6600, right? I see a lot of people using 8x for other procs?

9x400 would keep you ram safe, 450x8 would give you better bandwidth and at 1:1 those GSkills should do 900MHz with a little tweaking.

Copy a template and fill in your current stable settings, adjustments can be made from there.

[VoRtAn_MaDgE]

VoRtAn_MaDgE
Very nice oc ! Great job. Is it stable?

http://i37.tinypic.com/2ryozkn.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/33w642s.jpg


In terms of cpu speed perfectly, that's my 24/7 system speed
In terms of mem speed too, i use 1200mhz 24/7
For that timmings 24/7 just have to raise a little bit volts to make it 24/7

i use 5-5-5-15 daily to use less volts.

btw 4x1gb ;)

[Grnfinger]

I have lowered the volts now and it seems fine. :)
Hopefully with your help I'll get it stable att 4GHz.

Tested this last night it passed linpack 10 loop test

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 500
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : AUTO
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : Whatever you think maybe 1.375 to start.
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.55
FSBT : 1.33850
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
North Bridge Voltage : 1.39150
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +20mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[chiman2]

i am using a 64 bit windows xp disc. that has been confirmed to work on another computer. sorry for my attituded. im just frustrated... so i think i might call again today and hope i get someone who is willing to go farther to help me..

Sorry you still have not answered us is that a original DVD or copy?You do understand that all DVD drives are not the same, even thought it worked in another PC drive it does not mean it will work in yours if it is a copy and not original. Try to use your friends DVD drive that worked........ you should really get rid of that IED drive and go with SATA,

Many people are running 64/bits on this board, It booted right-up out of the box with my XP/SP2 64 bit................and are you trying to install Vista/SP1 or just plain Vista? At least slipstream it to SP1 and give it a shot.

Many people here are telling you to look at your DVD copy, that really sounds like the problem............. If it is a copy and not original then try to find a original copy before saying it is the board and not the DVD.

im pretty sure xtreme systems forums has a strict rule about copies of copyrighted material. and also that is the first time ive heard of a disc drive knowing the difference between a copy and a "original". a dvd drive shouldnt be able to know anything about the disc. it just spins it. the information goes the motherboard where it reads it.. the disc works on another computer and i moved the drive from that computer to this one. "and are you trying to install Vista/SP1 or just plain Vista? At least slipstream it to SP1 and give it a shot." you quoted me where i said.. i am using a 64 bit windows xp disc. so why are you still asking me about vista? i said im going to use xp so i dont run into problems with it being vista. im not saying its the board. but im not saying it isnt either. im just saying there could be some bios setting or something im missing. the disc is VERIFIED to work. telling me its the disc having errors. when ive repeatedly said it worked and when i already tried it on another computer and it worked doesnt make it the disc that doesnt work.

cpu cant stop it.
ram cant stop it. i tried all the one stick configurations.
tried taking usb devices out
flashing bios has been done.
using sata drives.
os drive is in sata 1
ide drive that can read the disc

so it goes to the motherboard, it should be letting the 64 bit os boot but it wont. the motherboard is the only hardware that has its own like settings/software which is the bios....

im not saying the motherboard is broken or its not good. i just would like a 64 bit operating system to work. is that so much to ask...

sorry for the long post.
sorry for getting on the wrong sides of people.

[Grnfinger]

im pretty sure xtreme systems forums has a strict rule about copies of copyrighted material. and also that is the first time ive heard of a disc drive knowing the difference between a copy and a "original". a dvd drive shouldnt be able to know anything about the disc. it just spins it. the information goes the motherboard where it reads it.. the disc works on another computer and i moved the drive from that computer to this one. "and are you trying to install Vista/SP1 or just plain Vista? At least slipstream it to SP1 and give it a shot." you quoted me where i said.. i am using a 64 bit windows xp disc. so why are you still asking me about vista? i said im going to use xp so i dont run into problems with it being vista. im not saying its the board. but im not saying it isnt either. im just saying there could be some bios setting or something im missing. the disc is VERIFIED to work. telling me its the disc having errors. when ive repeatedly said it worked and when i already tried it on another computer and it worked doesnt make it the disc that doesnt work.

cpu cant stop it.
ram cant stop it. i tried all the one stick configurations.
tried taking usb devices out
flashing bios has been done.
using sata drives.
os drive is in sata 1
ide drive that can read the disc

so it goes to the motherboard, it should be letting the 64 bit os boot but it wont. the motherboard is the only hardware that has its own like settings/software which is the bios....

im not saying the motherboard is broken or its not good. i just would like a 64 bit operating system to work. is that so much to ask...

sorry for the long post.
sorry for getting on the wrong sides of people.

If the MOTHERBOARD DISK BOOTS THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BOARD!!!!!! PERIOD so let not discuss this anymore shall we.:brick:
There is NO BIOS OPTION to enable, ASUS comfirmed this as you know.
Unless you did not call, but then again I did so yes Asus has confirmed this.
Your problem is your CD, so beg borrow steal or buy yourself a new copy of XP64 and move on.

[electricl]

Thanks for the settings. It will boot into windows sometimes and other times it will stop at the vista boot screen. Im running at 3920MHz now but the comp wont pass linpack, not even 2 loops. I cant run pl 8 so its on 10 now I think. Maybe if I get better RAM. Any more suggestions? :)















Tested this last night it passed linpack 10 loop test

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 500
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : AUTO
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : Whatever you think maybe 1.375 to start.
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.55
FSBT : 1.33850
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
North Bridge Voltage : 1.39150
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +20mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[Ket]

Youknow, I always said I would never spend insane amounts of money on a mobo when I could get one equally as good for half the price or less, especially mobos that will cost me £160 :shocked:

............

......but...

I do love the look of the Maximus 2.... and it has my beloved ADI CODEC by the looks of it :D does the board have pretty LED lights too? if it does I might not be able to resist....

[chiman2]

and the problems keep coming. forget about the 64 thing ok....so earlier today i take my computer to the ktichen to take pictures where there is lighting. and when i come back to plug the computer back in. i cant change a thing in the bios or else the computer wont work.

normally when i boot up the lcd poster says alot of things. like voltages. vga bios..etc

when i changed something in bios and save settings it does its automatic reboot. but the lcd poster just says. "en_setup" and i get nothing on my screen. so i have to reset cmos.

ive had the same results on 3 bios's 901, 802, 701 all with the same results.:( i really dont want to rma it

[VoRtAn_MaDgE]

and the problems keep coming. forget about the 64 thing ok....so earlier today i take my computer to the ktichen to take pictures where there is lighting. and when i come back to plug the computer back in. i cant change a thing in the bios or else the computer wont work.

normally when i boot up the lcd poster says alot of things. like voltages. vga bios..etc

when i changed something in bios and save settings it does its automatic reboot. but the lcd poster just says. "en_setup" and i get nothing on my screen. so i have to reset cmos.

ive had the same results on 3 bios's 901, 802, 701 all with the same results.:( i really dont want to rma it

Boot from the 2nd bios chip.
See what happens!

[chiman2]

so asus comes through i jsut read this on thier site.

3. If any hardware has just been added, remove it.
This includes internal device such as memory or modem as well as external device such as printer or USB device. If the system works after the device is removed, the issue may be compatibility with the new hardware.

i had just plugged in a usb mouse in addition to the one i already had plugged in. unplugged it. AND THAT WAS IT MOBO BACK TO LIFE. YAY

here is the link to the page

http://support.asus.com/troubleshooting/troubleshooting.aspx?no=743&SLanguage=en-us

[screwtech02]

Not meaning to be outa line here, but are you usin one for each hand or what??

BTW, glad you got it figured out.....:cool:

[crazyea]

My results with this setup:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showpost.php?p=3254393&postcount=1070

[Grnfinger]

Youknow, I always said I would never spend insane amounts of money on a mobo when I could get one equally as good for half the price or less, especially mobos that will cost me £160 :shocked:

............

......but...

I do love the look of the Maximus 2.... and it has my beloved ADI CODEC by the looks of it :D does the board have pretty LED lights too? if it does I might not be able to resist....

It does have the led's and a very sexy ROG illuminated badge.

Perhaps you can do bios mods for MFII?:D



Thanks for the settings. It will boot into windows sometimes and other times it will stop at the vista boot screen. Im running at 3920MHz now but the comp wont pass linpack, not even 2 loops. I cant run pl 8 so its on 10 now I think. Maybe if I get better RAM. Any more suggestions? :)

If she makes it in to Windows your volts need tweaking, I'll make some suggestions later today

[electricl]

Yeah, it makes it into windows but transaction booster is set to auto otherwise it wont boot. I need to get some better RAM. Clock twister is set to moderate and static read control is set to disable. Its promising though, on the old board it was impossible with this chip. :up:








If she makes it in to Windows your volts need tweaking, I'll make some suggestions later today

[screwtech02]

This board have any issues runnin X-2's in quad?

[xdrift0rx]

If the MOTHERBOARD DISK BOOTS THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BOARD!!!!!! PERIOD so let not discuss this anymore shall we.:brick:
There is NO BIOS OPTION to enable, ASUS comfirmed this as you know.
Unless you did not call, but then again I did so yes Asus has confirmed this.
Your problem is your CD, so beg borrow steal or buy yourself a new copy of XP64 and move on.

then what is the problem? im his friend and ive been trying to help him through this. i have sent him my XP64bit disk. (i have found another one and verified that it works also check my sig for my pc specs...) what else could be causing this to not work? the only thing i can think of is a jumper on the board that might have been put in the wrong place.

and what does the "motherboard disk" have to do with anything?

also to clear this up here is the error he gets when he pops in a XP64bit disk:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/xninjararacerx/xperror.jpg

this is vista.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/xninjararacerx/vistaerror.jpg


when i pop in the same disk, i get a welcome screen from the disk after it spins up.

so what could it be?

[dctokyo]

then what is the problem? im his friend and ive been trying to help him through this. i have sent him my XP64bit disk. (i have found another one and verified that it works also check my sig for my pc specs...) what else could be causing this to not work? the only thing i can think of is a jumper on the board that might have been put in the wrong place.

and what does the "motherboard disk" have to do with anything?

also to clear this up here is the error he gets when he pops in a XP64bit disk:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/xninjararacerx/xperror.jpg

this is vista.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/xninjararacerx/vistaerror.jpg


when i pop in the same disk, i get a welcome screen from the disk after it spins up.

so what could it be?


It looks like you loaded the CD while your already running XP/32 bit, that is why your getting the error message. Am I right?

What you need to do is boot from the XP64bit disk and not try to run it from 32 bit Windows if this is the case.

As I mention before, I am using XP/64 with no problems,

[xdrift0rx]

It looks like you loaded the CD while your already running XP/32 bit, that is why your getting the error message. Am I right?

What you need to do is boot from the XP64bit disk and not try to run it from 32 bit Windows if this is the case.

As I mention before, I am using XP/64 with no problems,

HE has run it from 32bit. I have run it from 64bit xp..i am currently running it.
when he tries to boot the disk it wont even boot, but the 32 bit disks do.

[kup]

Is the DVD drive compatible? I've known of several drives and/or cables that just outright refuse to work but replace one or the other and all is good? Just a thought?

[MaxT]

I don't have time to read the last messages, but i've loaded vista 64 bit sp1 just fine on this board, just fyi. So 64bit installs definitely work.

[chiman2]

yea it works. i know it does. but it just wont freaking work for me. its depressing. my first real comptuer.....and i get this probelm. how fun

[Grnfinger]

These screen shots say it all boys, there is no need to argue this anymore.
Perhaps learn how to install a OS??


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/xninjararacerx/xperror.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/xninjararacerx/vistaerror.jpg

[crazyea]

Maybe, but he is saying it wont boot.........

[xdrift0rx]

These screen shots say it all boys, there is no need to argue this anymore.
Perhaps learn how to install a OS??


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/xninjararacerx/xperror.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/xninjararacerx/vistaerror.jpg

i realize my error there but we have tested two different CD drives (well he has...supposedly)

we called asus and they were being kind of rude and said ITS NOT THE BOARD ITS NOT THE BOARD. so we tried a diff CD drive and still having the problem..am i missing somewhere in between?

[Grnfinger]

i realize my error there but we have tested two different CD drives (well he has...supposedly)

we called asus and they were being kind of rude and said ITS NOT THE BOARD ITS NOT THE BOARD. so we tried a diff CD drive and still having the problem..am i missing somewhere in between?

Ok you seem rather intelligent, so this is what I suggest to be the issue.
The reason I say if the mobo disk boots there is nothing wrong with the board is because the motherboard cd is bootable. It contains both 64bit and 32bit drivers. So your 64bit therory dosent hold water.
Now as I have said from the begining, your 64bit disk is not being read as BOOTABLE media, or the disk is corrupt.
So....you need to try a new source, think about it a 32bit disk will install your mobo cd will boot. I presume you have flashed the bios via USB stick?.
There is nothing wrong with the board, you can post as many times as you want it still wont change the facts.
In the beginning I felt bad for the guy and called Asus myself to try and help him, now because you guys dont get the answers you want your attitudes change, not the best method to get help but hey to each there own.
I even suggested to start a new thread so maybe someone who has had this problem b4 could help, but I see the problem is not to important that he could not take the time and do so.
Anyways I have wasted enough time on the matter, I wish you luck problems like this can be very frustrating especially when the answer is right in front of you.

[Solarfall]

hey guys i was wondering how many of you have been able to get your boards/cpus over 600fsb...seems like im hitting the wall little bit over 600fsb.??? does anyone have a trick that could help me to get littlebit more out from the p45 chipset ..it feels like I've tried everything already..its damn frustrating LOL

like here with an E8600.. i have the same broblem with the E8500 (3 already) that has topped at lil over 600fsb
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t307/Solarfall_photos/superpi7781.jpg

[Legacy]

hey guys i was wondering how many of you have been able to get your boards/cpus over 600fsb...seems like im hitting the wall little bit over 600fsb.??? does anyone have a trick that could help me to get littlebit more out from the p45 chipset ..it feels like I've tried everything already..its damn frustrating LOL

like here with an E8600.. i have the same broblem with the E8500 (3 already) that has topped at lil over 600fsb
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t307/Solarfall_photos/superpi7781.jpg

Sorry no heelp here, but maybe you could help me get my Overclock Stable?
VCore=1.36
PLL=1.5
NB=1.37
FSB=1.33

Passed 4 out of 6 test using LinPack ,but only using Half stress because for some reason IntelTestBurn will Not run using maximum Stress on 32bit Vista



http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb122/5wisha/Capture-1.jpg

[Grnfinger]

Sorry no heelp here, but maybe you could help me get my Overclock Stable?
VCore=1.36
PLL=1.5
NB=1.37
FSB=1.33

Passed 4 out of 6 test using LinPack ,but only using Half stress because for some reason IntelTestBurn will Not run using maximum Stress on 32bit Vista



http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb122/5wisha/Capture-1.jpg

set trfc to 55 and retest, your current value is 2 low for 4GB's

[Legacy]

This is what I get when I change tRFC to 55, everything else is left on auto..

PL 13? Should this be lower? I tried 10-12 and got the same result with Linpack.

Also is there a better way to upload Pictures, I am just using the snipping tool in Vista and uploading them to Photobucket



http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb122/5wisha/Capture1-1.jpg

[Grnfinger]

This is what I get when I change tRFC to 55, everything else is left on auto..

PL 13? Should this be lower? I tried 10-12 and got the same result with Linpack.

Also is there a better way to upload Pictures, I am just using the snipping tool in Vista and uploading them to Photobucket


posting pics that way is fine,

leave trfc set to 55 and try setting this in bios and retest linpack

Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 300ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Advanced 300ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 300ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Advanced 300ps

you may need to adjust your timing to 5-5-5-18 but try the skew first

[electricl]

Hey Grnfinger how much do I dare raise the voltages with this 45nm chip? Maybe 4GHz is out of reach, Id settle for 3.8/3.9 but it would be sweet to have a 4GHz quad! :D

[colt1911]

I was wondering if anyone would recommend me the Maximus Formula II for my Q9450? I'm looking to upgrade to a P45 chipset and change my memory from PC6400 to PC8500 . The best OC that I can get with current setup is 3.5 stable and I'd like to get at least to 3.8. If someone has the time would you please advise on this board and some good PC8500 memory? Thanks for your time and help.

[Legacy]

leave trfc set to 55 and try setting this in bios and retest linpack

Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 300ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Advanced 300ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 300ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Advanced 300ps

you may need to adjust your timing to 5-5-5-18 but try the skew first

Ok i tried that with the same result , 1 out of the 3 test passed..

I do have a 400 Strap on the FSB(Don't know what that does)
CPU Scew Normal
NB Skew Normal

Under CPU Config Everything is disabled..

Should I change any of those settings ?

Thanks for your Quick replies !

[electricl]

Can I consider my oc stable if it passes linpack 10 loops? Im just glad it passed at 3800MHz and hopefully after getting better RAM Ill hit 4GHz with the help of this forum:up:

[TouGe]

First time messing with this board and currently using shipping BIOS version 0701. I tried to achieve the lowest voltages possible while still maintaining 3.6GHz with as tight as possible RAM timmings and 15 pass Linpack + 150% memTestPro stability.

There's nothing pretty here as my chip isn't anything special but I thought it might help someone someday.



Extreme Tweaker
AI Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 400
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A1: Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2: Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 B1: Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 B2: Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge: 4
RAS# Activate Time: 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay: 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 35
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D): 7
Write to Read Delay (S): 3
Write to Read Delay (D): 5
Read to Read Delay (S): 4
Read to Read Delay (D): 6
Write to Write Delay (S): 4
Write to Write Delay (D): 6

Write to Pre Delay: 14
Read to Pre Delay: 5
Pre to Pre Delay: 1
All Pre to ACT Delay: 5
All Pre to REF Delay: 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM OC Charger: Disabled
AI Clock Twister: Strong
Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCI-E Frequency: 101

CPU Voltage: 1.34375V (1.31-1.32V Idle, 1.28V load, 1.26V LinPack)
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51325V
FSBT: 1.15300V (1.14V Idle/Load)
DRAM Voltage: 2.21075V (2.20 Idle, 2.18V load)
North Bridge Voltage: 1.19275V
South Bridge Voltage 1.5: 1.50000V
South Bridge Voltage 1.1: 1.10000V

CPU GTL Reference 0: Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1: -45mV
CPU GTL Reference 2: Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3: -45mV
North Bridge GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage: Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

Load Line Calibration: Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCI-E Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[SiGfever]

Just ordered this board to replace my RMA'd P5Q Deluxe. I hope to have it by the end of next week. What bios is the most stable?

[Grnfinger]

Just ordered this board to replace my RMA'd P5Q Deluxe. I hope to have it by the end of next week. What bios is the most stable?

if you dont need E0 support I find 701 to be very stable.
802 is good and supports E0 901 dosent play well with my hardware

[TouGe]

if you dont need E0 support I find 701 to be very stable.
802 is good and supports E0 901 dosent play well with my hardware

I can second that on the 0901. I tried 0901 initially and had stability issues w/ anything above stock but I've had nothing but happiness w/ 0701. The only problem that I am having with the 0701 version is that I can't lower my multiplier in order to run 8x450. Everytime I try it resets to 9x450.

[Gunnz Akimbo]

im using 901.

8x multi
400FSB

ALL voltages set to auto and, they have adjusted themselves too the overclocked FSB levels.

Q6600 does not have a default of 1.4v, when i set the multi to 6x yet that is what was set at, so i changed it to 8 for a cpu overclock.

[Dr@gonXP]

Can I consider my oc stable if it passes linpack 10 loops? Im just glad it passed at 3800MHz and hopefully after getting better RAM Ill hit 4GHz with the help of this forum:up:

By far not:rolleyes: You can talk about stable by passing 100 runs (I am always going with 300 runs over night).

Cheers

[TouGe]

By far not:rolleyes: You can talk about stable by passing 100 runs (I am always going with 300 runs over night).

Cheers

How long do you sleep?

[Dr@gonXP]

It's an approx. 8 hours test;)

Starting at 10.00pm till 6.00 to 6.30 in the morning.

[Legacy]

Not a Huge OC, but I think it's Stable!
Ran Linpack Test#2 on Vista 32bit for 100 Passes with no errors.

I would love to get this Chip to 3.8 or hopefully 4GHz but everything I have tried has been unsuccesful.

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb122/5wisha/Capture2.jpg

[Grnfinger]

By far not:rolleyes: You can talk about stable by passing 100 runs (I am always going with 300 runs over night).

Cheers

not planning on keeping your hardware very long?

there is no reason to run 300 loop test let alone 100 loops:rofl:
run 10 loops if it passes then toss it on prime or OCCT for 6-8 hours and its done.
And the plus side you wont kill your hardware

[Leeghoofd]

I can second that on the 0901. I tried 0901 initially and had stability issues w/ anything above stock but I've had nothing but happiness w/ 0701. The only problem that I am having with the 0701 version is that I can't lower my multiplier in order to run 8x450. Everytime I try it resets to 9x450.

How do you like the MFII over the P5Q dlx mate ? Is it worth the step up ?


By far not:rolleyes: You can talk about stable by passing 100 runs (I am always going with 300 runs over night).

Worst tip you could ever give to users here... totally hardware kill and way over the top... but if you want to go and waste ya hardware and cycles on a stability test, be my guest...


not planning on keeping your hardware very long? There is no reason to run 300 loop test let alone 100 loops:rofl:
run 10 loops if it passes then toss it on prime or OCCT for 6-8 hours and its done. And the plus side you wont kill your hardware

And then you get the suggestion of a wise man : 10 loops is more than enough, add some other tests and you are ready... users are really exagerating with all of this...


Not a Huge OC, but I think it's Stable!
Ran Linpack Test#2 on Vista 32bit for 100 Passes with no errors.

I would love to get this Chip to 3.8 or hopefully 4GHz but everything I have tried has been unsuccesful.

Stop doing that lol... why do I see 6gb of ram... do you run 2 x 2 Gb and 2 x 1gb sticks ? Have you tried dropping multi to eg 7 with 475FSB ?

[TouGe]

How do you like the MFII over the P5Q dlx mate ? Is it worth the step up ?


I'm not quite sure yet. The one downside of this board seems to be that there aren't too many users compared to the P5Q-D and the BIOS updates seems to reflect this fact.
I did not see any gains over the P5Q-D in regards to Everest bandwidth @ 9x400MHz (4:3 divider) 5-5-4-12-3-35 timmings and I was not able to achieve my normal 3.6GHz OC w/ any less voltages. I was finally able to get 8x450MHz to work but it meant me running PL 8 with AI Clock Twister set to Moderate whereas 8x450MHz was stable on my P5Q-D at PL 8 w/ AI Clock Twister set to Strong, not a big deal.
Don't get me wrong, MIIF is a nice board. I think it is just as stable as the P5Q-D. You are able to change GTL's per core if you are in to that and you are also able to see all the temp sensors as well as voltage read-outs which seem to report reasonable values--haven't tested yet.
I can't see any reason to recommned the MIIF over the P5Q-D, especially if you already own a P5Q-D. Maybe if Asus would pay just as much attention to BIOS updates for the MIIF as they do for the P5Q-D it would be a better board but.....
You do a lot more tweaking than I do so maybe you might be able gleem a difference between the two boards but for a casual tweaker I'd say they were identical in every way.

[TouGe]

As for stability I run 10 passes of Linpack for initial testing and 20-30 passes of Linpack and 3 hours of Prime95 blend for final testing then its back to crunching. If I don't get any errors reported over the next few days or none of my games freeze while playing then I am stable enough. I've got about 8 months of down time from crunching to catch up on. I've got no time to waste on excessive stability testing:up:.

[Rattle]

does this mobo have the retarded overvolting like the p5q deluxe? in other words if i set vtt to 1.1 and pll to 1.5 and NB to 1.1 will it actually give me those volts when i am overclocked ?

[TouGe]

does this mobo have the retarded overvolting like the p5q deluxe? in other words if i set vtt to 1.1 and pll to 1.5 and NB to 1.1 will it actually give me those volts when i am overclocked ?

As for DIMM voltages, which have consistantly varied on other Asus boards, not that I have noticed. My DIMMs require ~2.22V to run @ 1066MHz & 5-5-4-12-3-35 timmings on the 4:3 divider. When using both the Maximus X38 and the P5Q-D that meant setting the voltage in the BIOS to 2.12V because they would always overvolt by 0.08-0.1V. If I were to lower DIMM voltage any lower I would start to see errors in memTestPro.
On the MIIF my DIMM voltage is set to 2.21075V (~2.19V under load) if I lower it one step more I would start to see errors in memTestPro. So I would say that the DIMM voltages (what you set compared to what you get) are pretty accurate.
I can only speak for my board and since I have not yet physically tested each read-out, and really don't plan to since I am not seeing any strange behavior, I can only go by past Asus behavior and what I am seeing now. In my opinion I think there is very little overvolting in regards to NBv, CPU Vtt, and a slight drop in DIMM voltages. I do not know about PLL since I've always left it at 1.51V.

[Rattle]

anyone measured these 3 voltages off the mobo? the p5q deluxe overvolts unless you set pll to 1.52 and vtt to 1.22 and nb to 1.16, this is the closest the mobo gets to real min voltages and it overvolts still, especially having to have the VTT at 1.22 and have no other choice is rediculous. I want a different mobo but not sure if i should go back to a maximus formula which i loved or try this maximus 2

[Legacy]

Stop doing that lol... why do I see 6gb of ram... do you run 2 x 2 Gb and 2 x 1gb sticks ? Have you tried dropping multi to eg 7 with 475FSB ?

I only Have 4GB installed
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145197

I never even noticed that Memset read my Ram as 6144MB:D Must be a Bug.

CPU-Z , thinks I have 8GB installed :D

I tried to Run at 475x7 and got errors as well as 475x8
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb122/5wisha/Capture4.jpg

[yobi]

new bios coming
http://i38.tinypic.com/i71rew.jpg

[genec57]

From 0901 to 1307 - that's odd.

[dctokyo]

I wonder if any other changes

[barong]

hi guys
i really2 need help for guide to oc this mobo , this is my first time using asus mobo, i cannot reach fsb 530 stable its always crash in orthos blend not in small ftt also crash in dual super pi 32mb 9no exact in round)
anyone can guide me waht to do in bios? like which one should i disable also the setting , please need guide

[chiman2]

hey, everyone i got a 64 bit disk to work:yepp::yepp: i guess the computer just couldnt "recongize" that specific disk but i decided to try one more vista 64 bit ultimate and guess what it worked... so yea. i also did some over clocking. here are some screenshots

im not sure if were suppose to resize images so

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/470/408fp9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/470/408fp9.d80cd3b828.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=168&i=408fp9.jpg)

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2586/occcyv4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2586/occcyv4.0ee3c3b6bf.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=178&i=occcyv4.jpg)


btw what is the tj max of an e8500

i here some people say that it use to be 95 but went up and then people say intel is just wrong.:confused:

[genec57]

tjmax for the 45nm chips is 100c but whether it is 95 or 100 is a bit irrelevant- You certainly don't want to ever get there :).

[chiman2]

true. but when my tj max is 100 or 105. my temps go "up". like real temp and core temp say then are ten degres higher than if my tj max was 95

[dctokyo]

hey, everyone i got a 64 bit disk to work:yepp::yepp: i guess the computer just couldnt "recongize" that specific disk but i decided to try one more vista 64 bit ultimate and guess what it worked... so yea.

Mmmmmmmm so I was right about your disk being bad?;)

Ahyway happy to hear that you got it up and running :up:

[Grnfinger]

Mmmmmmmm so I was right about your disk being bad?;)

Ahyway happy to hear that you got it up and running :up:

Yes as we all new it was a bad disk.
And then the screen shots ......:rofl:

[chiman2]

screenshots funny? and the disk wasnt bad it just wouldnt work on my computer. but thats besides the fact. im just happy i got it to work.

[Grnfinger]

screenshots funny? and the disk wasnt bad it just wouldnt work on my computer. but thats besides the fact. im just happy i got it to work.

But if you acutally took the advice you were asking for you would have saved ppl alot of hassles and time.
Next time maybe dont ask for help if you wont follow the advice your looking for:up:

[Eniqmah]

Hello,
Wanna see if any one is experiencing a similar problem as I am. I can OC fine to 4.2Ghz and run orthos stable, but when I reboot or shutdown, I get no video feed from the comp and have to reset CMOS in order to redo the OC and get back in. If this is common, please let me know any fix. If you need my settings, let me know also. Thanks.

[electricl]

Im pretty happy with this motherboard. I have 3.8GHz stable and its all good so far. Im sure that if I get some better memory Ill reach 4GHz :up: I think it is possible to lower the volts a little bit more but for now Ill leave it as it is. Thanks to Grnfinger for helping me out with the settings and getting me closer to stability:)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3115/2833002559_3002309fd8_o.jpg

[vab206]

I just ordered one of these with a e8400, ill be letting you all know how i do OC wise :D

[SiGfever]

Got my board Thursday and am in the process of bleeding my loops now. I used my MCW30 temporally until Swiftech comes out with their NB cooler for this board's heatpipe system next week. Eddy @ EK Waterblocks told me the he will have a block in production soon also. My NB heatsink was only making partial contact to the copper core. The NB had "two" washers on the back of the board where as all other screws had one washer each. I replaced their TIM with MX-2 on the NB and SB. Righ now my NB temp is 32c @3.2Ghz 1.29v. Ambient is 22.4c. This is one damn fine looking board, now if it only overclocks as well as it looks. :up:

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2893/img1378largemd4.th.jpg (http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1378largemd4.jpg)

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8017/img1379largejx7.th.jpg (http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1379largejx7.jpg)

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9073/img1382largesk0.th.jpg (http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1382largesk0.jpg)


One thing that I do not understand is why they supplied backplates for the Mosfet blocks on the Deluxe but not this board? :shrug:

[electricl]

Id have to say this is one sexy board :D http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3206/2833132005_9fb51008dc_b.jpg

[TouGe]

Got my board Thursday and am in the process of bleeding my loops now. I used my MCW30 temporally until Swiftech comes out with their NB cooler for this board's heatpipe system next week. Eddy @ EK Waterblocks told me the he will have a block in production soon also. My NB heatsink was only making partial contact to the copper core. The NB had "two" washers on the back of the board where as all other screws had one washer each. I replaced their TIM with MX-2 on the NB and SB. Righ now my NB temp is 32c @3.2Ghz 1.29v. Ambient is 22.4c. This is one damn fine looking board, now if it only overclocks as well as it looks. :up:

One thing that I do not understand is why they supplied backplates for the Mosfet blocks on the Deluxe but not this board? :shrug:

Yeah, I didn't understand the lack of mosfet backplates either. I just transfered the back plates from my P5Q-D onto this board. You could always just pick up two from Performance-PC's, the EK mosfet backplates for the 3a's should work, right?

Now start turning in some numbers!

[SiGfever]

Yeah, I didn't understand the lack of mosfet backplates either. I just transfered the back plates from my P5Q-D onto this board. You could always just pick up two from Performance-PC's, the EK mosfet backplates for the 3a's should work, right?

Now start turning in some numbers!

:D

Yes I have two EK Asus 3a blocks and I am waiting on some TIM pads from JabTech. Also my DVD was BLANK! Not a damn thing burned on it! :shakes: Now I need to get a DVD mailed to me from Newegg. Luckily the P5Q Deluxe is the same basic board and it used all of its drivers. I downloaded some stuff but want the DVD that I paid for.

When I get the time I will create a template and an Excel spreadsheet for this MB.

[Grnfinger]

Im pretty happy with this motherboard. I have 3.8GHz stable and its all good so far. Im sure that if I get some better memory Ill reach 4GHz :up: I think it is possible to lower the volts a little bit more but for now Ill leave it as it is. Thanks to Grnfinger for helping me out with the settings and getting me closer to stability:)




Good job:up:

Post your current settings if you like, maybe 4.0GHz is just around the corner with a little tweaking.

[kup]

:D

Yes I have two EK Asus 3a blocks and I am waiting on some TIM pads from JabTech. Also my DVD was BLANK! Not a damn thing burned on it! :shakes: Now I need to get a DVD mailed to me from Newegg. Luckily the P5Q Deluxe is the same basic board and it used all of its drivers. I downloaded some stuff but want the DVD that I paid for.

When I get the time I will create a template and an Excel spreadsheet for this MB.

I've had 3 Asus DVDs that were blank or could only be read maybe 1 out of every 50 tries... :down: :rofl:

[electricl]

Good job:up:

Post your current settings if you like, maybe 4.0GHz is just around the corner with a little tweaking.

Heres my current settings



CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to NB: 333
FSB Freq: 475
PCIE Freq: 105
DRAM Freq: 951
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Dram Read Training : Auto
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Lighter
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled


CPU volt:1.32500
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52650
NB Voltage: 1.35175
DRAM Voltage: 2.17100
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.31200
SB Voltage: 1.1
SB 1.5 Voltage: 1.5

CPU GTL Reference 0 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +20mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[ChaosAD]

If i m gonna use this board with Q9550 E0 do u think i ll need more than a Cpu and NB water block cooling? I aim for 4Ghz hopefully so is mosfet cooling recommended. I ask cause i cant find any mosfet air cooling at all here in Greece.

[SiGfever]

If i m gonna use this board with Q9550 E0 do u think i ll need more than a Cpu and NB water block cooling? I aim for 4Ghz hopefully so is mosfet cooling recommended. I ask cause i cant find any mosfet air cooling at all here in Greece.

If you cool the NB with a waterblock the SB and the Mosfets will receive some cooling from it. You can also use the one Asus fan for the left Mosfet heatsink. Swiftech is due out next week with a NB block for this heatpipe assy.

[Grnfinger]

If i m gonna use this board with Q9550 E0 do u think i ll need more than a Cpu and NB water block cooling? I aim for 4Ghz hopefully so is mosfet cooling recommended. I ask cause i cant find any mosfet air cooling at all here in Greece.

I run the little Asus fan works fine and is quiet.
My Q9550 runs at 4.0GHz very well, I really doubt you will need extra cooling for the mosfet

[ChaosAD]

If you cool the NB with a waterblock the SB and the Mosfets will receive some cooling from it. You can also use the one Asus fan for the left Mosfet heatsink. Swiftech is due out next week with a NB block for this heatpipe assy.

I think i ll still on my EK S-Max. Reason 1: Dont want to spend more money, i dont think there will be much difference in performance. Reason 2: If the Swiftech block is going to be released in US next week, then it will reach greek market probably, lets say, next year maybe :ROTF:

[ChaosAD]

I run the little Asus fan works fine and is quiet.
My Q9550 runs at 4.0GHz very well, I really doubt you will need extra cooling for the mosfet

Thanx a lot Grn. Helpfull as always. U just use additional NB cooling? Rest heatpipe is stock?