ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[purplehaze]

that board looks like sex..i want one.

[thedan55]

hey lads ive been following the guide here and ive just finished testing my CPU GTLS and everything went fine with the testing and all.

but now when i restart my system it wont post it will just hang, i force switch it off switch on again and post will give me this error

"CPU TO CORE BUS RATIO OR VID CONFIG HAS FAILED"

so i go back into the bios change nothing then posts and gets into windows fine, but when i restart or shut down same thing?!?!??!?!

ive changed the VCC but makes no difference

any help please?

[thedan55]

oh i changed the fsb strap from 333 to auto and worked fine.

any ideas??? should i leave it on auto?while i continue oc'ing

[humeyboy]

The 333 Strap is buggy, notice how it reads 1mhz over for Memory you set to 1:1 with the FSB !

I ain't sure if it really is 1mhz out or just a bad reading.

For me 333 is more stable than 400 which is weird as 333 is tighter.

[In-Fluence]

"CPU TO CORE BUS RATIO OR VID CONFIG HAS FAILED"
any help please?

Not seen that one before. Have you tried removing the CPU, and powering up without it? This gives a hard reset and clear CMOS well. Worked most of the time when I had persistent issues with posting.

[humeyboy]

Pulling all Memory and powering up was way to reset on a NF2, CPU removal is a bit of a choir.

[thedan55]

thing was i was testing all the gtls on 333 then all of a sudden said that. changed to auto and not had an error since but not finished overclocking with that guide yet tho

so just wondering shall i ignore the 333 strap error and carry on overcloking or take the memory out and in then see what happenes?

[thedan55]

hey lads i tested all the gtls and the longest i got on prime without a crash was 1.19. im going to use that as my gtl is that ok??

in the guide it says you would want one that lasts like 5 mins but that was my longest.

oh and i left my fsb strap on auto, took the memory out and still crashed on 333.

the result i got for 1.19 was on ddr2-872mhz i want to change that and test again on 978 or something around that. it will be faster on the latter right?

this board is quite a big challenge lol

[WaterFlex]

Guys. Can you share with your BIOS settings for Dual Cores oc`ed 500x9 ?

[SkOrPn]

Guys. Can you share with your BIOS settings for Dual Cores oc`ed 500x9 ?

These always seem to work great for me

http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showthread.php?p=3469516#post3469516

[DonNiger]

A bit too much to read. Simple question - is it a good board?

[WaterFlex]

DonNiger
Yes, this board is great. But why not to go with i5/i7?

[CryptiK]

A bit too much to read. Simple question - is it a good board?

That depends on what you want to do with it. For a 24/7 board they're great with duals, mine clocked ram quite well, but they can't handle quads like the UD3P/R's.

[STEFANOVASJ]

Hey guys i want to know what is the best bios for ocing a e8XXX.
Because i am with the same bios from almost 2 years.
I want to lower my vcore a little more because now it is 1.24 for 4.1 ghz i want a little lower.
this is where i am at the mo

my fsb is 513 x8

CPU VCORE-1.26( 1.24 real)
PLL V-1.57950
FSB TERMINATION/VTT- 1.33200
DRAM V- 2.19
NBCORE - 1.29
SB CORE 1.5 - 1.55000
SB 1.1 CORE - 1.15000

[SkOrPn]

Hey guys i want to know what is the best bios for ocing a e8XXX.
Because i am with the same bios from almost 2 years.
I want to lower my vcore a little more because now it is 1.24 for 4.1 ghz i want a little lower.
this is where i am at the mo

my fsb is 513 x8

CPU VCORE-1.26( 1.24 real)
PLL V-1.57950
FSB TERMINATION/VTT- 1.33200
DRAM V- 2.19
NBCORE - 1.29
SB CORE 1.5 - 1.55000
SB 1.1 CORE - 1.15000

It seems most agree that 1901 is the best OC'ing bios, at least Ive seen it mentioned quite a few times throughout this thread....

[STEFANOVASJ]

Absolutely no difrene when changing bios.
Today i tried to oc my cpu to 4.8 but it doesent want i keep increasing voltages but it boots up windows and blue screen.
vcore 1.53
north bridge 1.42
cpu pll 1.60
vtt.137
and it didnt want to do anything diffreremt when i keep raising
on 4.7 it boots and goes trough benchamks without problems on 1.48 vcore

[ajdaho]

hello people
I buy this mobo , it is great , my q9550 works with 4,1 ghz /1,336V (vid 1,2875V) , that all , I can not get fsb 495mhz , but I'm happy , for me this is enough , sorry for my bad English , kind regards from Poland

[CryptiK]

Hi ajdaho welcome to XS.

Nice overclock, you've done better than quite a few people in terms of maximum stable FSB with a quad on this board.

[ajdaho]

may be this will be helpful for others :

http://images8.fotosik.pl/191/76e802e62b93fa60m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=76e802e62b93fa60)

http://images8.fotosik.pl/191/a428591e50ed7221m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=a428591e50ed7221)

http://images8.fotosik.pl/191/c6f66335d751e6cem.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=c6f66335d751e6ce)

http://images8.fotosik.pl/191/ea0d7c13be582b76m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=ea0d7c13be582b76)

http://images8.fotosik.pl/191/0e3245f33dbf4d68m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=0e3245f33dbf4d68)


and my "monster":
http://images8.fotosik.pl/191/9978b0b3aed56001m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=9978b0b3aed56001)

[humeyboy]

Hi ajdaho welcome to XS.

Nice overclock, you've done better than quite a few people in terms of maximum stable FSB with a quad on this board.

Is it stable, no mention of Prime/IBT etc.

I got to 495FSB with some stability only due to the , If I was able to set the CPU/NB Skews more precisely.

If the NB was in in 50ps steps instead of 100ps steps I think 495 and 500 would be stable.

[ajdaho]

http://images8.fotosik.pl/186/b95a9edf602aa409m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=b95a9edf602aa409)

[TJ TRICHEESE]

Whatever evga/gigabyte/msi tries to do Asus always stays on top when it comes to mobo's and custom vga's (maybe not msi lightning 260/275)

[humeyboy]

http://images8.fotosik.pl/186/b95a9edf602aa409m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=b95a9edf602aa409)


:)


You would be better of running the newer builds of Prime95 so you can do all 4 Cores in 1 app. ;)

[hallryu]

I'm swapping my X48 board for one of these. Should arrive tomorrow. Looking forward to it!

[jlewis02]

Is there a hacked or modded bios for this board?
I seem to have hit a fsb wall at 495fsb stable will boot at 500 but will not make it into windows.
I have the 2202 bios in it at the moment and the other one is a 13 somthing version.
I have had my q9550 at 495x8.5 and 495x8 and it still stops at the same fsb everytime.

[humeyboy]

The guy who did mod a bios or 2 spat the dummy and went of in a huff.

Your lucky to even get past 475FSB (if that's actually stable in Prime and IBT) on a Quad on this buggy/unsupported Mobo.

[LennyRhys]

Your lucky to even get past 475FSB (if that's actually stable in Prime and IBT) on a Quad on this buggy/unsupported Mobo.

Simply not true - it's common to see 480+ on the MF2 with Q9550/Q9650. I settled for 478 daily because I wanted to keep my CPU at 1.35v, but it was stable over 480 at the same settings.

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm57/LennyRhys/4300mhz1352v.png

[humeyboy]

Simply not true - it's common to see 480+ on the MF2 with Q9550/Q9650. I settled for 478 daily because I wanted to keep my CPU at 1.35v, but it was stable over 480 at the same settings.

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm57/LennyRhys/4300mhz1352v.png

How is it not true ?

How many in this very forum have stated 475FAB is about the Max stable inc myself ?

Just because you say different does not make it an average !

I have gotten 495FSB but it was a PIA to get and not reliable each reboot so 475 is my limit.

I have benched at 500FSB but 1 reboot later it cannot even post Windows.

There is a few peeps with 500FSB but that's rare and does not change the fact I stated above.

The pattern I found was the same as nearly everyone else with similar hardware as myself be it on this forum or another forum.

This Mobo is a POS for Quads and anyone here with half a clue knows this.

I'm sure if you contest this a few others will chime in that dumped this Mobo for the Gigabyte and never looked back.

[jlewis02]

I have ran it at 490x8 for just over a month and it was fine.I guess im expecting too much out of this board.
My nb voltage was at 1.40

[Leeghoofd]

I'm just thinking the bios is too complex for many users... plus with P45 having good rams is a must...

[humeyboy]

I'm just thinking the bios is too complex for many users... plus with P45 having good rams is a must...

Take a look at the QVL, its a total joke the lack of support.

500FSB should be nothing fancy to set as Memory is only 1000mhz @ 1:1 which in my case would be underclocked.

I can say for certain that the peeps here now on Gigabytes were not n00bs and were to blame for not getting 500FSB stable on a Quad on this Mobo.

If someone gets lucky and gets 500FSB at decent voltage then they got lucky with 3 main parts of their rig playing nicely.

Good sample of this Mobo+Memory+good sample of CPU, possibly lowish VID.

[hallryu]

Simply not true - it's common to see 480+ on the MF2 with Q9550/Q9650. I settled for 478 daily because I wanted to keep my CPU at 1.35v, but it was stable over 480 at the same settings.

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm57/LennyRhys/4300mhz1352v.png

Nice results, what is the VID on your CPU?

[ajdaho]

How is it not true ?

How many in this very forum have stated 475FAB is about the Max stable inc myself ?

Just because you say different does not make it an average !

I have gotten 495FSB but it was a PIA to get and not reliable each reboot so 475 is my limit.

I have benched at 500FSB but 1 reboot later it cannot even post Windows.

There is a few peeps with 500FSB but that's rare and does not change the fact I stated above.

The pattern I found was the same as nearly everyone else with similar hardware as myself be it on this forum or another forum.

This Mobo is a POS for Quads and anyone here with half a clue knows this.

I'm sure if you contest this a few others will chime in that dumped this Mobo for the Gigabyte and never looked back.

can you show me your bios settings ?

[LennyRhys]

This Mobo is a POS for Quads and anyone here with half a clue knows this.

I'm sure if you contest this a few others will chime in that dumped this Mobo for the Gigabyte and never looked back.

A few others - you mean the :cheer: UD3P cheerleading squad :cheer: ? The guys who went for Gigabyte did so because they wanted 500FSB, not because the MF2 is a POS. Some guys just want that extreme factor; others, like me, are happy with less than 500MHz on the FSB.

I'm not saying the board is the best (it simply isn't, not even close) but it certainly doesn't deserve to be called a POS, because it's the best P45 board I've ever owned/worked with. :yepp:


Nice results, what is the VID on your CPU?

Cheers :up: It's not mine (any more) but it was a cracker - 1.225 VID, and scaled nicely.

[humeyboy]

can you show me your bios settings ?

If I can be bothered to boot to Bios and write them down but I'm playing Bioshock 2 (PC) for now and watching 24 later. ;)

[In-Fluence]

I have to say as an MIIF owner (and a few Asus products), that it is a good board. It has features you would never see on a Gigabyte like temp sensor connectors and the LCD poster, both of which I found useful, and miss to a certain degree. There is the unfortunate fact that the board really didn't like going anywhere beyond 490 fsb for stability, but on the other hand it remained stable at around 0.05 lower vcore then my UD3P at a slightly lower 484x9. Getting the CPU stable beyond it seemed possible, but only by a few mhz, the NB becomes virtually impossible to stabilise beyond here though.
Since I moved over, the one key thing setting I thought might make a difference on the MIIF (if they ever bothered to update the bios) would be to change the CPU/NB skew step amounts which are 100 compared to the Gigabyte's 50. This made a big difference once going beyond 490 with the same components on the UD3P.
I would still say that given the fact that my Gigabyte is still going strong and I've even managed to get some HWbot points, I will be sticking with it, but only time will tell if those 6 phases are likely to hold out (It likes to have a little squeal when I stress it). I wouldn't blame anyone for sticking with their MIIF, but if you want to move freely whilst squeezing the most out of your RAM & CPU, and even go for some records, then the UD3P is the way to go.

All these opinions are from my own experience and I know that others have done better (and worse) than me when trying to attain that 500FSB stability.

[CL3P20]

I for one am keeping mine for dual benching... if I werent such a noob at figuring out skew settings above 570fsb I would have soo much more fun with this mobo. :D My current fsb limit is ~575 using a e8xxx cpu. I still have some learning to do for nailing tighter PL's above 530fsb..but overall.. dual-core with this mobo is a breeze. Not so lucky with Q4 benching though...as stated above I have found somewhat of a 'hard-limit' for Q4 stability..regardless of 65nm or 45nm, 460-~485 was the highest I could reach...even then things are a little rocky with stability. :(

@ leegoofd - I bench wiff craps RAMz on meh MIIF..:D curious why you say you need 'gooder'?

[LennyRhys]

I think what Leeg means is that the P45 likes the 5:6 ratio for memory so if you're benching above 500 FSB and want to use that ratio, you need 1200+ capable DDR2.

The most popular kit for high-end P45 boards is the GSkill Pi 9600 4GK which costs £200. :eek:

[CL3P20]

Mmm I see.. I have not benched 5:6 above 500fsb..as I dont have any RAM that is 1200+ capable... just spend all my hardware $$ elsewhere before I ever get the chance to buy some real good stix :D

..Dewar in one hand... Gskill in the other... Dewar it is. ...NB pot in one hand.. Gskill in the other... NB pot it is.. etc.etc.

[Leeghoofd]

@ leegoofd - I bench wiff craps RAMz on meh MIIF..:D curious why you say you need 'gooder'?

Lo mister OCN,

Quads OC better with a divider on the Asus range... so for 500FSB and more you need 1200+ rams like Lenny indicated ( this will stabilise things loads )
On the P5Q series I could run a lower PL with rams on another divider than 1:1... I have primed the 9650 at 500FSB with 1200mhz on the rams with ease, 500/1000 needed far too much GTL/Skew tweaking.
Plus like many already mentioned : a very frustrating experience as it was stable one moment, unstable an hour later when doing a retest... but nowhere near as bad as P45 with DDR3 lol...

Dual cores OCing as expected is far easier... hope to see some good scores in the LCC dude... trying to get hold off an I7 mobo...

[humeyboy]

I would buy 1200mhz Memory if I thought :

1) It would run ok as of lack of support in the QVL.

2) It was 2x2GB kits for 8GB (2x kits)total

3 ) getting off the 1:1 Ratio would help the FSB reach 500.

I've had 8GB of Dominator rev 1.1 @1175mhz with 2.1v and no major tweaks while on a Dual Core but on a Quad it acts up about 1135-1150mhz.

Some peeps got 1200mhz on the same rev 1.1 Memory, I cannot even with 1 Module, major tweaks and extra voltage.

[hallryu]

I'm stable at 4.203 GHz at the moment. I think my Memory will possibly restrict me going any higher at the moment. I'm still getting to grips with this BIOS, which has more settings than you can shake a stick at. Happy so far!:D

[eSp!s0]

Is there a hacked or modded bios for this board?
I seem to have hit a fsb wall at 495fsb stable will boot at 500 but will not make it into windows.
I have the 2202 bios in it at the moment and the other one is a 13 somthing version.
I have had my q9550 at 495x8.5 and 495x8 and it still stops at the same fsb everytime.

Yes, take a look at this startpost (from a german forum): http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/showpost.php?p=13963171&postcount=1
But it didn`t change sth. in OC for me, so I am using the - mBIOS.1901.101 with the new ROMs for Marvell/Intel Controller only and without any other tweaks.

[ajdaho]

http://images8.fotosik.pl/210/864570271f672e76.png (http://www.fotosik.pl)


http://images8.fotosik.pl/210/60ac110f43e63d89m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/pokaz_obrazek/60ac110f43e63d89.html)

http://images8.fotosik.pl/210/39d47210eb1aab2em.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=39d47210eb1aab2e)

http://images8.fotosik.pl/210/66e472e9e84d0e99m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=66e472e9e84d0e99)

http://images8.fotosik.pl/210/1407971ca38c496bm.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=1407971ca38c496b)

[CL3P20]

Lo mister OCN,

Quads OC better with a divider on the Asus range... so for 500FSB and more you need 1200+ rams like Lenny indicated ( this will stabilise things loads )
On the P5Q series I could run a lower PL with rams on another divider than 1:1... I have primed the 9650 at 500FSB with 1200mhz on the rams with ease, 500/1000 needed far too much GTL/Skew tweaking.
Plus like many already mentioned : a very frustrating experience as it was stable one moment, unstable an hour later when doing a retest... but nowhere near as bad as P45 with DDR3 lol...

Dual cores OCing as expected is far easier... hope to see some good scores in the LCC dude... trying to get hold off an I7 mobo...

..Noted... :D

..as for the LLC.. heres a peek... Im getting closer :D

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1019761 ..still on PL10 too...got some special Crucial 2x1's coming in this week..good for 1300+mhz... should help quite a bit!!

[Leeghoofd]

Don't overdo it or you will us make to sell them Extreme boards :)

6.5 multi with 615FSB might be a killer setup for the compo...it could be a winner in pi 1M... if it was 32Mb you would be slayed... or at least chopped in half :D

[jlewis02]

http://images8.fotosik.pl/210/864570271f672e76.png (http://www.fotosik.pl)


http://images8.fotosik.pl/210/60ac110f43e63d89m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/pokaz_obrazek/60ac110f43e63d89.html)

http://images8.fotosik.pl/210/39d47210eb1aab2em.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=39d47210eb1aab2e)

http://images8.fotosik.pl/210/66e472e9e84d0e99m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=66e472e9e84d0e99)

http://images8.fotosik.pl/210/1407971ca38c496bm.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=1407971ca38c496b)

Nice
What bios are you using?

[In-Fluence]

Yes, looks very nice to see another 500fsb stability attempt although I would say at just an 8x multi that things would always be easier to stabilise, and 12K fft test is where the CPU strain really begins to max out.

I'm tempted to have another go with my G.Skill PIs on this board, but I'm already aware of how much time I've wasted trying to get 500fsb stable. I'm also keeping an ear out for some feedback about something that may contribute to the MIIF cause for better fsb stability with quads, but I'm kind of going out on a limb... here's to hoping though :)

[ajdaho]

bios is 2202 , i try also do it, in bios 1602 , but in this bios was bug , whatever i put in multiplier (6 or 7 or 8 or 7,5 ) mobo always use 8,5 when fsb exceed 490mhz

[MarcusFoX]

Hey guys some clocks ive been working on over the last week. Ive been able to get 495 working on 500fsb this week.

Now bios 2202 and 1901 seemed to be the same for me for a quad core. The diffrence was id get this bug in 1901 where the system would all of a sudden become super unstable and wont boot windows.. after a bios reset from 2202to 1901 the system would become stable again.

Bios:2202
Vcore: 1.47
vtt:1.7
NB:1.65
memory Read:lighter
TRD:9-11
GTL
0:-10
1:-55
2:-10
3:-55

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c333/AMphoto_1/Q955042stable.jpg


http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c333/AMphoto_1/Q9550SuperPI-2.jpg

[hallryu]

Nice Overclock. Monster VCore, would kill your Quad very quickly.

[MarcusFoX]

if they want the voltage give it...dont be shy. with a ep45-ud3p im sure the voltage on this same chip will be pulled in quite abit but right now stuck with the Maximus and with this board you need volts to push that fsb even with the gtl's tuned.

[jlewis02]

The temps are very high but nice clocks.

Dang man I just seen the NB volts at 1.65v thats way high.And the VTT at 1.7v thats also high.

[ajdaho]

@MarcusFox
yours quad go quick to cpu hell

[Pekalion]

Hey guys, can someone tell me if this mother or Rampage Extreme can be buy new? My Q9550 is asking me to destroy the BlackOps with a hammer, is doing 3.4Ghz without any tweaking and the only one giving me problems is the damn motherboard.

Well, if anyone can give me hand thanks!

[jlewis02]

Newegg has the MIIF but its over $200 for it new.

[MarcusFoX]

Some people believe in the start low and work you way up method... me personallyl I dont have the patience for that I start high and get it stable and then bring the voltages/GTLs down etc to fine tune.

just two different ways of accomplishing the same thing.



The temps are very high but nice clocks.

Dang man I just seen the NB volts at 1.65v thats way high.And the VTT at 1.7v thats also high.

[MarcusFoX]

Hey guys, can someone tell me if this mother or Rampage Extreme can be buy new? My Q9550 is asking me to destroy the BlackOps with a hammer, is doing 3.4Ghz without any tweaking and the only one giving me problems is the damn motherboard.

Well, if anyone can give me hand thanks!



Im gunna be selling mine soon.... :)

[jlewis02]

Here is the best I can do.
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/1025665.png (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1025665)

[hallryu]

This is me at the moment. IBT passed 10 runs on max but Prime95 failed on Core 0 at just over 2 hours. A little bit of tweaking still required me thinks but almost there.

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9969/4203ghzq9650asusmaximus.jpg (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/4203ghzq9650asusmaximus.jpg/)

[MarcusFoX]

Double post sorry

[MarcusFoX]

Hey guys those are 2 nice looking OC's right there... now I wanna see them 24/7 stable chop chop

id be surprised if you could get that 502 fsb OC stable for 4 hours that be sweet.

[CryptiK]

Hey guys good to see the thread still moving along.

I just sold my M2F, it's been fun but it was time for me to move on. Best of luck with your OC's.

[Saturn™]

Hello, people!
two days I can not adjust the FSB 533, Prime95 is not stable.... :shrug: please help me.

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 [E0] ~4264MHz [8x533]
Asus Maximus II Formula P45 rev.A3 [bios 2202]
Geil Ultra Plus [2x2Gb] DDR2-1066Mhz 5-5-5-15
Corsair TX650W
Microsoft Windows® 7 Ultimate x64


Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 533
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
DRAM Frequency: 1066

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS to RAS Delay: AUTO
Row Refresh Recycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D): AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S): AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D): AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S): AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D): AUTO


3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: dis
DRAM Read Training: dis
MEM. OC Charger: enab
Ai Clock Twister: strong
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level:10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.375
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.21
DRAM Voltage: 2,2
North Bridge Voltage: 1.36
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto


CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: enable
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[Marcio]

My 24/7 setup on M2F. I have been using this for more then a year, never had a single crash, or anything. Perfect stable board for me.
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4769/4200a.jpg

[In-Fluence]

Hello, people!
two days I can not adjust the FSB 533, Prime95 is not stable.... :shrug: please help me.

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 [E0] ~4264MHz [8x533]
Asus Maximus II Formula P45 rev.A3 [bios 2202]
Geil Ultra Plus [2x2Gb] DDR2-1066Mhz 5-5-5-15
Corsair TX650W
Microsoft Windows® 7 Ultimate x64


Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 533
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
DRAM Frequency: 1066

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS to RAS Delay: AUTO
Row Refresh Recycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D): AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S): AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D): AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S): AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D): AUTO


3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: dis
DRAM Read Training: dis
MEM. OC Charger: enab
Ai Clock Twister: strong
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level:10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.375
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.21
DRAM Voltage: 2,2
North Bridge Voltage: 1.36
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto


CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: enable
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Try tuning your CPU & NB skews. These can affect stability a lot with high fsb and save you some volts too. Tune your NB GTL too, from my experience, I gained more stability using positive values around +30-+50, but can be different for anyone. CPU GTLs may help more as well, but I doubt it helps as much as with quads. VTT is also rather low, you could try raising that but if you do, wou will need to re-tune any GTLs.
Change one setting at a time, reboot and test. If stability improves, tweak more in that direction. I would start with raising VTT to 1.26 then tuning NB GTL.

Good luck ;)

[CL3P20]

@ Saturn...make sure you are running on the 333FSB strap...400 is not so good :(.


Well guys, im not really one for total stability...but stable enough :p ...heres my newest with this board.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii220/CL3P20/OCN%20post%20pics/746_maxmemm.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/1032235.png
8.64sec 1 mil Pi (http://hwbot.org/community/submission/964177_cl3p20_superpi_core_2_e8400_3.0ghz_8sec_640 ms)
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii220/CL3P20/8640sec_1mil_pi_jr0c_oc.jpg

..quick run with a new 5770 on stock cooling, and nabbed 6th in 3D'01 :D (http://hwbot.org/community/submission/964188_cl3p20_3dmark_2001_radeon_hd_5770_90328_mar ks)

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii220/CL3P20/OCN%20post%20pics/90328_5770_3d01.jpg


settings I use as follows:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 581 for 3D, 587boot+setfsb for 2D
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: 200
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: 1168-1197

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: -200
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: -200
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: -200
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: -200
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge: 14 DRAM Clocks
RAS to RAS Delay: 3
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 50
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): 7
Write to Read Delay (S): 3
Write to Read Delay (D): 4
Read to Read Delay (S): 6
Read to Read Delay (D): 5
Write to Write Delay (S): 4
Write to Write Delay (D): 7


3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: 13
Read to PRE Delay: 5
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
All PRE to ACT Delay: 5
All PRE to REF Delay: 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: Enabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: stronger
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level:10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 103

CPU Voltage: 1.57
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.77
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.40
DRAM Voltage: 2.42
North Bridge Voltage: 1.57
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.55
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.17

CPU GTL Reference (0): +40
CPU GTL Reference (1): +20
CPU GTL Reference (2): +40
CPU GTL Reference (3): +20
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto


CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled

:yepp::yepp:

[Eeky NoX]

Nice chip you gat there ;) ...is it under water or SS ?

Well I don't like to go this low with ram frequ :/ that's why I left it for UD3 ^^ ...but now I battling with DFI T2RS+ urg! seems that the mobo don't like me :(

[CL3P20]

Nice chip you gat there ;) ...is it under water or SS ?

Well I don't like to go this low with ram frequ :/ that's why I left it for UD3 ^^ ...but now I battling with DFI T2RS+ urg! seems that the mobo don't like me :(

CPU is on DICE.. vcore was left high in the 2nd and 3rd pics, as I was moving a lot of FSB ...in effort to bench 3d at higher cpu speed... :shrug: this mobo only wants 3D if its below 583fsb...

*CPU is awsome though..I bench 5.0ghz with only 1.46vcore real :D ...even the 1.54v in the first pic is high for what it really needs. Hoping that better RAM will see me through 600fsb..this cpu has a lot more left in it.

[Saturn™]

what is the best bios for overclocking MAX FSB?

[CL3P20]

Im using 2202...currently limited on fsb by my cheap ram..

[Saturn™]

Does "enable CPU TM Function" for overclocking on the FSB?

[In-Fluence]

TM function turns your PC off when the CPU hits its on board safe temperature. Disable it if your onboard CPU temp goes above 65-70°C then you can go above that.

1901 gave me best FSB results btw. I think I posted a 614fsb screenie with an E8500 somewhere on this thread. I didn't try benching with it though.

[MarcusFoX]

My 24/7 setup on M2F. I have been using this for more then a year, never had a single crash, or anything. Perfect stable board for me.
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4769/4200a.jpg


Im using 2202...currently limited on fsb by my cheap ram..


This is me at the moment. IBT passed 10 runs on max but Prime95 failed on Core 0 at just over 2 hours. A little bit of tweaking still required me thinks but almost there.

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9969/4203ghzq9650asusmaximus.jpg (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/4203ghzq9650asusmaximus.jpg/)


pritty impressive overclocks here guys:up: ... dispite of how horrible this board is with a quad... I got my UD3P in today my first boot was at 4.5 530fsb things a monster. it will go to windows at that speed not stable enough yet to run a Pi test yet tho.

[Musho]

Could a few of you guys be so kind to run this program and take a screenshot of a full graph? I'd like to see how this board performs for you guys in this test.

Here's the link to the test: http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml
Here's a link to the thread where they are testing the program: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=246459

Thanks! :up:

[CL3P20]

no SS for you.. but on P5B-DLX+E6300/2x2Kingston/5770 Im getting avg- 91 and max of 111 in my desktop.. *using 10.2drivers btw

new 32mil for me last night on my MIIF... with better RAM, Im sure I can make sub-9min :up: tweaking timings provides a small improvement in latency but worse for Read speeds..

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii220/CL3P20/OCN%20post%20pics/9m18797sec_32mil_e8400.jpg

[Sushi Warrior]

Do you guys figure this board is a worthy upgrade from a 680i LT for $150 CAD? I can't afford to go i5 but I would love a new mobo, and looks are very important for me.

[Starage]

This would be the only P45 board to get, hands down.

[Musho]

Do you guys figure this board is a worthy upgrade from a 680i LT for $150 CAD? I can't afford to go i5 but I would love a new mobo, and looks are very important for me.

Go with the EP45-UD3P from gigabyte instead. It overclocks far better and is getting way better bios support. The MIIF is an overpriced board with good looks, basicly :shrug:

[CL3P20]

I must have bad luck with the UD3's.. I have yet to get 1x that will run +570FSB..Could just be I dont have the right RAM for the job, but I have no issue benching much higher on my MIIF... Just my experience with them though. The Giga is much much cheaper though.. and might handle +1200mhz RAM better than the MIIF.

[Sushi Warrior]

lol Gigabyte is never happening. They are some UGLY boards. I want something with black PCB at least.

My options are this for $150, a P5Q SE Turbo for $130, or a 750i for ~$120.

[humeyboy]

Do not buy a NForce.

The MFII is probably better for Duals but its a POS for Quads (OK a very few got 500FSB).

Added to fact its picky for Memory to reach 1200mhz when its lesser brothers can run it no problems (lower end Asus P45's).

[CryptiK]

Do you guys figure this board is a worthy upgrade from a 680i LT for $150 CAD? I can't afford to go i5 but I would love a new mobo, and looks are very important for me.

Why not find a second hand Rampage Extreme X48 - it looks basically the same as the Maximus II Formula, but it clocks dual cores way better (I actually got higher FSB stable on my quad too) and it's DDR3.

[Sushi Warrior]

Maybe I should make a new topic for this..... but one last thing, I have an E6850 and want to stick DDR2 as the upgrade to DDR3 is pretty expensive (for that price I could almost get a full CPU loop).

EDIT: Pulled the trigger on it, as I sold my 680i.

[al-]

lol Gigabyte is never happening. They are some UGLY boards. I want something with black PCB at least.

My options are this for $150, a P5Q SE Turbo for $130, or a 750i for ~$120.

I currently own both the Gigabyte EP45-UD3P and the Asus MIIF.

I like the looks of both boards, the UD3P is half the price of the MIIF->

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/bubba9191/ud3p_k62-1.jpg

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/bubba9191/P1010468-1.jpg

[In-Fluence]

I'll would say both boards are good, but I wouldn't say the UD3P is nice-looking at all! The colour scheme is abysmal! Still, it's an ugly beast and manages to push chips further with it's measly 6 phase pwm, while the MIIF has trouble with quads near 500fsb with more than twice as many.
For your needs the MIIF should be more than enough and it's a nice comfortable board to work with with lots of fan headers, voltage and temp monitoring options, and once you get to know it and can be tweaked a fair bit to run nice low voltages.
I still have my MIIF and I loved the features and the look which is what sold it to me. Unfortunately I felt limited by the board in terms of getting the most out of my Q9650 (read way back in this thread), so I felt my only option was to try the UD3P which loves high fsb and DDR1200+ speeds. Might give the MIIF another try now I have my GSkill PI9600 but I probably wouldn't benefit a great deal. I'm kind of holding onto it as a backup, and I wouldn't be too disappointed if I had to go back, it's a good, nice looking board which should perform well.

[al-]

@In-Fluence

Well said...

I wasn't impressed by the UD3P color-scheme at first, but it's grown on me :D

al- (noob oc'r)

[CL3P20]

Why not find a second hand Rampage Extreme X48 - it looks basically the same as the Maximus II Formula, but it clocks dual cores way better (I actually got higher FSB stable on my quad too) and it's DDR3.

In your opinion, between the MIIF and the UD3, which are prone to better run 600+ ...? I ask, because.. I am 3D limited to 583fsb with my current bench setup due to RAM..and am wondering if investing in RAM to push 600+ will be a waster venture with this mobo. I have validation with 605fsb so far..just looking for more opinions/input..specifically related to 3D benching +600fsb. :up:

[In-Fluence]

I got an old E8500 up to 614fsb on my MIIF ages ago but not tried on the UD3P, and I won't doubt that it could also do 600+FSB. I'm sure others in the UD3P thread have benches with one, and I know Jor3lbr holds a record tor two with one.

[humeyboy]

DDR3 is now cheaper than DDR2.

DDR2 prices are rising every week and 1200mhz kits are hard to find and very expensive.

You could buy a cheaper set 1333mhz or 1600mhz DDR3 and underclock it to run 1:1 with your FSB and tighten the timings really well like a review site showed about a year ago.

Could end up with 600FSB+1200mhz Memory (1:1) at 4/4/4/12 (pure example).

[SkOrPn]

Although Im from the US, I must disagree with this statement. A good DDR2 kit at 4GB is roughly around the $50 to $60 range, but in order to get a good DDR3 kit you have to pay around $100 plus here. If it is the other way around in Scotland than I apologize and wish it was that way here, lol...

[humeyboy]

Although Im from the US, I must disagree with this statement. A good DDR2 kit at 4GB is roughly around the $50 to $60 range, but in order to get a good DDR3 kit you have to pay around $100 plus here. If it is the other way around in Scotland than I apologize and wish it was that way here, lol...

DDR2 kits are going up and up, the 4GB Corsair Dominator are now £40+ more than a few months ago.

You do not really need a high end DDR3 kit to run 1:1 on C2D or CDQ, your MAX FSB will be about 500FSB-600FSB so 1000mhz-1200mhz Memory.

It was in the news other day, DDR and DDR2 will rise in cost and DDR3 will fall.

[SkOrPn]

DDR2 kits are going up and up, the 4GB Corsair Dominator are now £40+ more than a few months ago.

You do not really need a high end DDR3 kit to run 1:1 on C2D or CDQ, your MAX FSB will be about 500FSB-600FSB so 1000mhz-1200mhz Memory.

It was in the news other day, DDR and DDR2 will rise in cost and DDR3 will fall.

Yeah I know, but I still cant help remember I paid nearly $150 not too long ago for my G.Skill DDR2 and now the same exact kit is $99. That sure seems lower to me. Plus I would really like some good CORSAIR DOMINATOR DDR3 tripple channel kit so I can move on to i7 but I need to pay $230 in order to get it.

Im just saying I have to pay more for DDR3 no matter what I do, 4GB kit or a 6GB tripple channel kit, it costs more here still. Im not willing to own second rate memory, its the absolute best or nothing at all. But before long, maybe later this year the tables will finally be turned, lets hope...

[kagula323]

In your opinion, between the MIIF and the UD3, which are prone to better run 600+ ...? I ask, because.. I am 3D limited to 583fsb with my current bench setup due to RAM..and am wondering if investing in RAM to push 600+ will be a waster venture with this mobo. I have validation with 605fsb so far..just looking for more opinions/input..specifically related to 3D benching +600fsb. :up:

between the MIIF and the UD3, prone to better run 600+ are the DFI LP DK P45T2RS Plus or Elite :D and they are also optimized for 2x2GB DDR2 kit's like G.SKILL PI 2x2GB DDR2 1200 ... only weakness of dfi p45 is overclocking with 4 memorii sticks

EDIT: other high fsb mobos for dual cores are BIOSTAR TPOWER I45 but i don't like about it the fact that after 1.3vcpu the increases in voltage are in 0.05 steps (like 1.35-1.4v) ... and ASUS Commando great one also.
My vote goes for 1.DFI and 2.Commando

[SkOrPn]

Hello again OC gurus. Just wondering if anyone has an idea why my MIIF passes Prime95 blend but fails IBT 2.4 standard? (Read Edit Below) Windows 7 runs great and games seem to be flawless. Below are my bios settings...


Maximus II Formula Bios 2202
Processor: E8600 E0
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 500
CPU Clock Skew: Delay 300ps
NB Clock Skew: Delay 400ps
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: Auto
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH4: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH5: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH4: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH5: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.344
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.16625
DRAM Voltage: 1.9
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.54
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.12 (I have Raid)

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1):-30mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3):-30mv
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Thanks in advance for any settings you think I should play with.

EDIT: Prime95 did fail worker thread #2 but it took over 2 hours to do it. I was sure it was going to pass Prime that I created this post before allowing prime to finish. IBT failed in under 30 seconds but prime took something like 2 hours and 33 minutes to fail. Going to look for other settings to try....

[SkOrPn]

Well back to a simple oc 8x500 for 24/7 use. Read somewhere that CPU PLL can kill a 45nm C2D, so Im not messing with that option. Anyone know if 41-42c is ok at idle for 4ghz? For having a good water cooling kit it sure seems high to me.

[Musho]

Well back to a simple oc 8x500 for 24/7 use. Read somewhere that CPU PLL can kill a 45nm C2D, so Im not messing with that option. Anyone know if 41-42c is ok at idle for 4ghz? For having a good water cooling kit it sure seems high to me.

Idle temps don't really matter all that much. What are your load temps running prime95 or linpack?

[SkOrPn]

Idle temps don't really matter all that much. What are your load temps running prime95 or linpack?

60-65'ish for Prime and 70-77'ish for linpack. I also read somewhere 77 was considered to be max acceptable. But I seen a quick 78 just for a split second but never saw it again. I wonder if its time to clean the loop now? Same loop and coolant for over a year now, lol...

EDIT: Just dawned on me that I have my coolant pump on the lowest setting it has. Been like that ever since I installed it as to keep noise down.

[Musho]

60-65'ish for Prime and 70-77'ish for linpack. I also read somewhere 77 was considered to be max acceptable. But I seen a quick 78 just for a split second but never saw it again. I wonder if its time to clean the loop now? Same loop and coolant for over a year now, lol...

EDIT: Just dawned on me that I have my coolant pump on the lowest setting it has. Been like that ever since I installed it as to keep noise down.

4ghz with a dual core running 77 degrees under load is quite hot for watercooling. Cleaning the loop might be a good idea indeed. If it's stable, and you don't want to push higher, it's perfectly safe though :) So nothing to worry about, really

[SkOrPn]

4ghz with a dual core running 77 degrees under load is quite hot for watercooling. Cleaning the loop might be a good idea indeed. If it's stable, and you don't want to push higher, it's perfectly safe though :) So nothing to worry about, really

Yeah its stable at 4ghz and nothing I do in real world ever pushes the temps that high. But still I think I will prepare to clean the loop next weekend and increase the pump speed to see what happens. Thanks...

[kwalker]

Well back to a simple oc 8x500 for 24/7 use. Read somewhere that CPU PLL can kill a 45nm C2D, so Im not messing with that option. Anyone know if 41-42c is ok at idle for 4ghz? For having a good water cooling kit it sure seems high to me.


60-65'ish for Prime and 70-77'ish for linpack. I also read somewhere 77 was considered to be max acceptable. But I seen a quick 78 just for a split second but never saw it again. I wonder if its time to clean the loop now? Same loop and coolant for over a year now, lol...

EDIT: Just dawned on me that I have my coolant pump on the lowest setting it has. Been like that ever since I installed it as to keep noise down.

I've been running my PLL at 1.63 volts for nearly two years now with a q9550 at 3.8 Ghz ,8 gigs of Gskills over 1100 MHz and 2 hd4870's in Xfire.
there are a lot of voltages elevated to what has been muttered as unsafe here and there around the web and I never shut er down.
It folds 24 hours a day except for time out to play a game or two.
There seems to be a misunderstanding of what is safe and what is not.
Rule # 1 if you think its unsafe then it is.
Every system responds differently to voltage tweaks and you have to live on the edge a little if you want that extra 50 mhz of raw power.
My northbridge runs a tad over 1.4 volts and VTT 1.37 v ..cpu is 1.39 to 1.40
I'm more concerned with stability and registry integrity than where My volts are :D
your dual core will run all day over 500 FSB on this board if you'll just step on it a little and rework that water cooling.
I have chipset, gpu water blocks, and the CPU on the same loop and it hovers around 61C... all four cores 100% CPU utilization in the summer time and 50 deg in the cooler months .
I idle at or near ambients (27 at the moment) and its about 26C in my apartment.
and yea.
Turn that pump up.
If it dosent sound like a low flying airplane next to your computer then your not overclocked enough :cool:

[CL3P20]

FYI- I run 1.78PLLv and 1.57v NB benching on my MIIF... :D

[SkOrPn]

OK so CPU PLL of 1.54 sounds like it is ok then?

@kwalker, I read that the PLL was bad for Core 2 Duo's but not Core 2 Quads. Thats just what I read from someone in another site that seemed to know what he was talking about. The thread and posts were dated though, back about a year ago or more I think. This machine was stable one year ago with the same exact settings as I posted above, but now it is not. Oh, I just remembered I had to RMA my last MIIF, my bad, so this is a different MIIF, (I ran this MIIF stock since November and just now trying the first overclocks on it) and seems to be a newer serial#, but the same settings are not working. Same CPU and Memory though, as is everything else. Weird

Im sure the extra 500mhz wont yield me any worth while results and since it seems to love 4000 mhz I think I should just be happy with that. The only thing I don't like about this board is that when I reboot, in order to actually boot back up I have to fully remove power from the board between each reboot, other wise she gets stuck in a blank screen not posting. Upon replying power she boots just fine. This is repeatable 100% of the time, its not an intermittent thing.

[kwalker]

The E7xxx and 8xxx series processor specs for PLL are 1.5 volts +5% or 1.575 volts and vtt 1.14 to 1.26 volts. The Qxxxx series processor specs are the same but the package design is more complicated with regards to reference voltages and GTL tweaks being that the incremental increases or decreases in gtl ref are directly proportional to Vcc and Vtt voltage adjustments..
that’s why a few key posters in this thread went to great lengths to explain this.
Yes the quad core is sensitive and the guides should be followed unless your not concerned like myself.
Now my QX9650 gets a little different treatment than the inexpensive Qxxx series.
:D

[NoGuru]

How does this board compare the the Gigabyte EP45?

[kwalker]

The issue with the Maximus II and just about every other Asus ROG is the north ,south bridge heating up along with the mofets and power circuits.
most of the time you need to remove the heatpipe and use a better TIM or go for broke and water cool the board which makes the Asus the better board if you can control the temps.
I am more comfortable with Asus and never had good results from Gigabyte.
I guess I just like drama :cool:

[In-Fluence]

How does this board compare the the Gigabyte EP45?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4290719&postcount=4337

IMHO:)

[NoGuru]

The issue with the Maximus II and just about every other Asus ROG is the north ,south bridge heating up along with the mofets and power circuits.
most of the time you need to remove the heatpipe and use a better TIM or go for broke and water cool the board which makes the Asus the better board if you can control the temps.
I am more comfortable with Asus and never had good results from Gigabyte.
I guess I just like drama :cool:


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4290719&postcount=4337

IMHO:)
Thanks for the opinions! If I can get one on the cheap, might be fun to play with.

[humeyboy]

F.A.O SkOrPn :

Quoted : " DDR2 spot prices climb back above DDR3 "


http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/18677

[SkOrPn]

F.A.O SkOrPn :

Quoted : " DDR2 spot prices climb back above DDR3 "


http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/18677

And the last paragraph says...


What about retail? Newegg's cheapest 4GB DDR2-800 desktop memory kit starts at $81.99 before mail-in rebates and shipping, while similar kits of DDR3-1333 RAM start at $94.99. Presumably, it'll take a little while for changes in chip pricing to impact branded modules listed online. Still, DDR3 looks unambiguously pricier right now for consumers.

Thanks for the info. Im waiting just a tad longer for DDR3 prices to fall as low as the price I paid for my G.Skill per GB, the kit I want needs to drop another $30-$50 just to match the price mb for mb. Hopefully this happens by May though... My GSkill is $25 per GB and the Dominators I want are $38 per GB. My G.Skill was the #1 best rated ddr2 memory at Newegg the day I purchased it and today the ddr3 Dominators are rated #1. If Im lucky maybe these will drop to $30 range soon, at least that will be close enough for me. On a side note, I do remember spending as much as $500 for mem kits before tho, lol.

[al-]

Does anyone have a Bios Template or settings for a Q6600/B3...

I didn't have any problems with the E8400 installed, but this quad only wants to run stock or on auto.....

I'm trying to get at least 3.0GHz/prime95 stable, thanks-


EDIT: I managed to get it to 3.0, do these numbers look ok? Thanks-



Processor: Q6600
BIOS 2202
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.0
FSB Frequency : 380
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266 MHz
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1143MHz
DRAM CLK Skew On Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew On Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew On Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew On Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# Activate to Precha : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO

Write to Pre Delay : Auto
Read to Pre Delay : Auto
Pre to Pre Delay : Auto
All Pre to act Delay : Auto
All Pre to Ref Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
Mem. OC Charger : Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster : AUTO

PCIE Freguency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.206
DRAM Voltage : 2.21075
North Bridge Voltage : 1.33850
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage : 1.5
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference (0) : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference (1) : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference (2) : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference (3) : AUTO
NB GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

CPU Configuration
Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
C1E Suppport : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Intel (R) Virtualization Tech. :Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled

Load-Line Calibration : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[kwalker]

That q6600 B3 will do 3.6 on air but needs more voltage than the G0.
you don't have to worry so much about the termination voltage or north bridge as you would the 45nm quads so you can push that higher if you like the 8X multiplier and higher FSB , otherwise I would use that 9X and go for 400 FSB ,leave the ram at 1066 pushing the nothbridge to 1.4 - 1.45 and FSB as high as 1.36(or a little higher )
your pll can come up a little more also.
as long as your cooler can remove the heat from the CPU you can push the cpu to 1.45 - 1.48 and drop it down until you loose stability ..raising it up small increments at a time until you regain stability.
you can go after the ram later

[al-]

That q6600 B3 will do 3.6 on air but needs more voltage than the G0.
you don't have to worry so much about the termination voltage or north bridge as you would the 45nm quads so you can push that higher if you like the 8X multiplier and higher FSB , otherwise I would use that 9X and go for 400 FSB ,leave the ram at 1066 pushing the nothbridge to 1.4 - 1.45 and FSB as high as 1.36(or a little higher )
your pll can come up a little more also.
as long as your cooler can remove the heat from the CPU you can push the cpu to 1.45 - 1.48 and drop it down until you loose stability ..raising it up small increments at a time until you regain stability.
you can go after the ram later

Awesome, thanks kwalker :up:

[kwalker]

Awesome, thanks kwalker :up:

no problem
hope it works out. :cool:

[evo3rs]

Please accept my apology if I posted on the wrong forum. My newly finished MIIF is driving me crazy. I would appreciate if someone could give me any idea on how to resolve my problem.

From cold boot the system will turn-on for about 2 seconds then power-off for 3-5 second then it will properly turn-on as normal. Please note the problem only happens when the system is overclocked, also when mildly overclocked.

I am not sure if it was board itself or something else was wrong. I have tried 3diffferent PSUs, first one was Antec Neo 550, then Antec Earhwatts 650 and finally Topower 950w.

Here's the system specs:

Maximus II Formula bios 2202
Q9550
ATI4870
2x2GB Corsair Dominator
2x30GB OCZ Vertex in RAID 0
Topower 950W PSU
Swiftech MCP655 pump and swiftechs blocks.(Works perfectly on my R2E).
Window 7 HP x64

Thanks in advance!!!:)

[Musho]

Please accept my apology if I posted on the wrong forum. My newly finished MIIF is driving me crazy. I would appreciate if someone could give me any idea on how to resolve my problem.

From cold boot the system will turn-on for about 2 seconds then power-off for 3-5 second then it will properly turn-on as normal. Please note the problem only happens when the system is overclocked, also when mildly overclocked.

I am not sure if it was board itself or something else was wrong. I have tried 3diffferent PSUs, first one was Antec Neo 550, then Antec Earhwatts 650 and finally Topower 950w.

Here's the system specs:

Maximus II Formula bios 2202
Q9550
ATI4870
2x2GB Corsair Dominator
2x30GB OCZ Vertex in RAID 0
Topower 950W PSU
Swiftech MCP655 pump and swiftechs blocks.(Works perfectly on my R2E).
Window 7 HP x64

Thanks in advance!!!:)

Not doing that for me with my Q9650 @ 4050mhz. Only does that if my overclock failed, to load the bios' defaults. I would try a CMOS clear (the button at the back of your case, on the I/O plate and manually re-enter your overclock settings. Try with a mild overclock first (100mhz or so).

[CL3P20]

Please accept my apology if I posted on the wrong forum. My newly finished MIIF is driving me crazy. I would appreciate if someone could give me any idea on how to resolve my problem.

From cold boot the system will turn-on for about 2 seconds then power-off for 3-5 second then it will properly turn-on as normal. Please note the problem only happens when the system is overclocked, also when mildly overclocked.

I am not sure if it was board itself or something else was wrong. I have tried 3diffferent PSUs, first one was Antec Neo 550, then Antec Earhwatts 650 and finally Topower 950w.

Here's the system specs:

Maximus II Formula bios 2202
Q9550
ATI4870
2x2GB Corsair Dominator
2x30GB OCZ Vertex in RAID 0
Topower 950W PSU
Swiftech MCP655 pump and swiftechs blocks.(Works perfectly on my R2E).
Window 7 HP x64

Thanks in advance!!!:)


Sounds like some bad OC settings... try leaving GTL's on auto, and only adding MCHv and vcore...

*btw- what FSB you attempting here..?

[CryptiK]

Please accept my apology if I posted on the wrong forum. My newly finished MIIF is driving me crazy. I would appreciate if someone could give me any idea on how to resolve my problem.

From cold boot the system will turn-on for about 2 seconds then power-off for 3-5 second then it will properly turn-on as normal. Please note the problem only happens when the system is overclocked, also when mildly overclocked.

I am not sure if it was board itself or something else was wrong. I have tried 3diffferent PSUs, first one was Antec Neo 550, then Antec Earhwatts 650 and finally Topower 950w.

Here's the system specs:

Maximus II Formula bios 2202
Q9550
ATI4870
2x2GB Corsair Dominator
2x30GB OCZ Vertex in RAID 0
Topower 950W PSU
Swiftech MCP655 pump and swiftechs blocks.(Works perfectly on my R2E).
Window 7 HP x64

Thanks in advance!!!:)

Hi and welcome. Cold boot - you mean power off at the wall or PSU right? My board did that too, if it turns on, then off, then back on and boots with the desired overclock, its normal IMO. If you leave power on at the wall/PSU then just turn on the PC it should just boot with out the on/off/on cycle.

[evo3rs]

Thanks Musho,CL3P20 and Cryptik for the help!!!.

Cryptik, exactly as you've described, on-off-on from cold boot and boots fine when psu is on all the time, if that's normal I will leave it alone. :):):)

[Musho]

Thanks Musho,CL3P20 and Cryptik for the help!!!.

Cryptik, exactly as you've described, on-off-on from cold boot and boots fine when psu is on all the time, if that's normal I will leave it alone. :):):)

Ahhhh, I misinterpreted your question! Yeah, mine does the same thing if I turn off the PSU or disconnect it from the wall. I thought you meant it did it as well when booting normally (without shutting down your PSU). Glad all is well though :)

[evo3rs]

Ahhhh, I misinterpreted your question! Yeah, mine does the same thing if I turn off the PSU or disconnect it from the wall. I thought you meant it did it as well when booting normally (without shutting down your PSU). Glad all is well though :)

Thanks again!. I'm glad it's not an isolated problem. All I need now is to re-install the original psu back. It's been rock solid at 3.8 Ghz:)

[al-]

It looks like this thread has s-l-o-w-e-d way down...maybe people have moved onto other boards, or just lost interest in the MIIF-

Are there any active MIIF threads?

[SkOrPn]

Yeah I think most have moved on to i7. Which I am finally doing myself this week. I cant believe I will have this ROG mobo sitting in a closet though. lol

EDIT: Stupid me I forgot a friend is getting this system the moment I have my i7 up and running, so at least she will continue to be used for many years to come....

[al-]

Yeah I think most have moved on to i7. Which I am finally doing myself this week. I cant believe I will have this ROG mobo sitting in a closet though. lol

EDIT: Stupid me I forgot a friend is getting this system the moment I have my i7 up and running, so at least she will continue to be used for many years to come....

I'll be using it for awhile...there's still a lot of life left in it... :cool:

[CL3P20]

i still bench mine..just looking for some high Q ram to get me over this 610mhz FSB zone.. using crap IC's for waaaaaay to long atm. :o

[al-]

i still bench mine..just looking for some high Q ram to get me over this 610mhz FSB zone.. using crap IC's for waaaaaay to long atm. :o

Have a look at the GSkill 9600 PI-kit --> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231201

Hey, I noticed that if I unplug the power supply from the wall, I'm prompted 'F1" for SETUP every time I plug it back-in, but not if I leave it plugged-in...is this normal behavior for the MIIF?

[Leeghoofd]

i still bench mine..just looking for some high Q ram to get me over this 610mhz FSB zone.. using crap IC's for waaaaaay to long atm. :o

I think this is user related and not the board nor the rams :rofl: move on CL3P20 , buy either a REX and some real DDR3 , don't waste cash on DDR2 mate...

[CL3P20]

@ lee- :D Aww..teasing me on my RAMs mate! I finaggled a top spot in ocn's memory madness comp, with my geil..and they wont even post at 1200mhz with slop timings and 2.5+v.. but yeah, Im with you. No way Im dropping 120+ $ on ddr2 at this point.. its not worth the 'boints' at all. Besides, Ive been pricing some 1156 setups against some am3's.. might be time to finally step into some AMD benching for a bit ;)

keeping this as my 775 setup though.. insta-boints for any GPU + 3D'01 :up:

[al-]

@Lee and CL3P20-

Do either of you know if something is wrong with my MIIF, if I leave the psu plugged into the wall, it'll always boots fine, but if I remove the psu power cord from the wall AC, I always get prompted 'F1' for setup (and the year after it boots is 2002) after it's plugged back in....

Not that I'm in the habit of unplugging it when I'm done, but desk real estate is minimal, and even tho it's my favorite backup pc, it's in my main rigs parking spot... thanks-

[JoeBar]

I used to have the same prob back in my MIIF days...

[al-]

I used to have the same prob back in my MIIF days...

I'll take that as it's 'just a MIIF thing'.....thanks Joebar-

[CL3P20]

its not a problem..im pretty sure every Asus mobo Iver ever owned [even P4c800] does that..totally normal.

[al-]

its not a problem..im pretty sure every Asus mobo Iver ever owned [even P4c800] does that..totally normal.

Thanks- :up:

[DaLiu]

Try to change the battery on the mobo.

[CL3P20]

new Pi best for me..first runs tonight though, still a lot of improvement to make... sub-8 as the goal.

621FSB.. 1.65vcore
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii220/CL3P20/OCN%20post%20pics/8312sec_1milPi.jpg

managed a nice 7min 1024mil wprime as well.. ;)

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii220/CL3P20/OCN%20post%20pics/450sec_1024mil_wprime.jpg

[Cleatus]

impressive :up:

now do it with a quad :D

[kwalker]

impressive :up:

now do it with a quad :D

:yepp:
were waiting :D

[CL3P20]

New runs from last night..made some improvements...

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii220/CL3P20/OCN%20post%20pics/cpu-5720.jpg

98.6k 3d'01
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii220/CL3P20/OCN%20post%20pics/986k_3d01.jpg

8.2s 1mil
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii220/CL3P20/OCN%20post%20pics/822sec_1milPi.jpg

[NoGuru]

Keep it up CL3P and I may have to Dice on one of these boards.

[CL3P20]

..been thinking of LN and a E8600 next... go 6ghz+

[Leeghoofd]

Never think , just do it :)

Have you checked CPU-Z only reads out 1024 mb in dual channel ? 2 x 512 ?

[CL3P20]

Never think , just do it :)

Have you checked CPU-Z only reads out 1024 mb in dual channel ? 2 x 512 ?

Yes.. got some "good" IC's from a friend across the pond :D These MIIF's are funny with the RAM they like at times.. Im just glad it decided to play nice with these Kingston's..already been through 4x other sets trying to find something more suitable for higher FSB use. :yepp:

*tuning up for Forum Wars comp..hoping to run this little 8400 at 5.7-5.8ghz for the comp..should net 1x heck of an OC bonus score.:up:


-spent hours playing with my 3870 the other night..temp limit at 970mhz core though :( @ -60c ... core starts to arti with more volts, and just grey screen with more core speeds.. = poooo

[WaterFlex]

Great work is here :) Keep pushing it man :up:

[jspuds]

Has anybody tried the new 2302 BIOS?

BIOS 2302 released June 25, 2010
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_II_Formula/Maximus-II-ASUS-Formula-2302.zip

[CL3P20]

thanks..will try :D

[In-Fluence]

Just a heads up that I have my MIIF along with 2 other Giga ep45 boards & ocz 2x1gb mems, 2x 2gb G.Skill Pi's, (both of which are capable way beyond 1250 MHz), and h20 bits for sale in my Ebay uk account (search my username). Items are also mentioned in the for sale section and have an asking price, or they can all go on reserve-free auction! (the MIIF is a rev A2 northbridge btw :))

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=255084

Would like to know if the new bios did anything for the board...pullins working yet?

[WaterFlex]

Guys, can you share your E8400 or E8500 500x9, PL=8, BIOS settings?
Thanks in advance ;)

[eSp!s0]

I only have this (500x8, PL=10) settings for you and because it`s a older post the GTLs are at "Auto", but you have to find your right GTLs by yourself anyway: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=3847409&highlight=333#post3847409

[al-]

OK, so I'm thinking my Q6600 (B3) temps are way high, and on my second call to Intel, they issue me an RMA-

--FAST FORWARD--

UPS delivers a new Q6600 (G0) from Intel, (I'm d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y NOT complaining)-

But now it looks like my Northbridge and Southbridge are running hotter than ever-

I suppose I could do 'the washer mod', but when I re-applied TIM to the Northbridge a couple of months ago, it seemed snug-enough

Any thoughts on these PROBE 2 temps? Thanks-

Q6600 @3014.4MHz

CPU Voltage =1.3125v
CPU PLL =1.5v
FSB Term =1.206v
DRAM =2.1v
Northbridge =1.33850v
Southbridge/1.5 =1.5v
Southbridge/1.1 = 1.1v

PRIME95

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/bubba9191/maximus_probe2.jpg

OCCT

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/bubba9191/occt_m2f.jpg

[al-]

bump

[al-]

bump-bump

[Saturn™]

Hello to everyone,
I can not achieve stability in Prime95 in any way... Increase of Vtt/NB voltage gives nothing... Subject matter about GTL read, but it does not help.

Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 533
CPU Clock Skew: 200
NB Clock Skew: 200
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: 1068

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS to CAS Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS to RAS Delay: AUTO
Row Refresh Recycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D): AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S): AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D): AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S): AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D): AUTO


3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: dis
DRAM Read Training: dis
MEM. OC Charger: dis
Ai Clock Twister: moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level:10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.375
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.32
DRAM Voltage: 1,9
North Bridge Voltage: 1.32
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.51
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.11

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: -80
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto


CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: enable
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[humeyboy]

You do not even list your CPU !

If that is a Quad (even if 45nm) you have no chance of that FSB even to boot to windows.

If its a Dual (esp if 45nm) you could get it stable at that FSB easily with some tweaks.

[Saturn™]

I am sorry,

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 [E0]
Asus Maximus II Formula [bios 2302, Intel P45 rev.A3]
Geil Ultra Plus 2x2Gb DDRII 1066Mhz 5-5-5-15
Microsoft Windows® 7 Ultimate x64

[humeyboy]

Ok a Dual 45nm CPU good !

A good sample of this Mobo could hit 600FSB (not all) but it depends on your Memory also.

Your also lucky you have a newer Rev A3 Northbridge.

[Saturn™]

This all is clear, but as to me stably to adjust FSB=533, Prime95 strews mistakes... Nothing helps.

[WaterFlex]

Guys, can you share you 500x8, 500x9 bios setting for q9650 please :)

[humeyboy]

Guys, can you share you 500x8, 500x9 bios setting for q9650 please :)

You have little to no change m8.

This POS of a Mobo cannot do that in 99% of samples including later A3 Northbridge infact I have not seen 1 proven to be 100% stable at 500FSB with a Quad.

Someone somewhere may have got lucky and have 500FSB 100% stable though.

Most top out about 475FSB and any more takes lot of tweaking and extra voltage.

I got to 485-490FSB but it was not worth the extra time and voltages, it was stable 1 day and not the next, that's Asus for you.

[WaterFlex]

I got to 485-490FSB but it was not worth the extra time and voltages, it was stable 1 day and not the next, that's Asus for you.

Iam agree with you... My next board choice goes not for ASUS

[temporarychicke]

Saturn, 533 FSB is a big ask, but hey, why not try.

If you fail, just set 444fsb (easy on low volts) and use the 9 multi for the CPU and use the 5:6 divider on the 333 strap to get your ram at 533.

This should be a super 24/7 overclock.

If you are still serious about 533, then I would suggest using uneven clock skews, perhaps increase cpu to 300ps and leave NB at 200ps. This might dial your fsb back into trim - it worked for me albeit on a quad.

[Saturn™]

If you are still serious about 533, then I would suggest using uneven clock skews, perhaps increase cpu to 300ps and leave NB at 200ps. This might dial your fsb back into trim - it worked for me albeit on a quad.
Does not help... :down::(

[humeyboy]

You should not need touch Skews for a Dual Core infact even GTL's can be left on Auto for 500FSB (not sure on higher) but you can tune lower votlages with proper GTL's.

I was only limited by my Memory not hitting 1200MHZ when I tried to get 600FSB on my old E8600.

I only really had to mess with GTL's and Skews with the Quad.

[al-]

@Saturn™

This post might be helpful--> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3572470&postcount=2718

[eSp!s0]

There is a new Bios out at the Asus Support page. Supports the new C2D series as I know so far.
:wave:

[pawelzolo]

Hi
This my settings on the M2F, may be useful to someone.

http://www.geting.se/image.php/240693-IMG_1567.JPG (http://www.geting.se/viewimage/image/240693-IMG_1567.JPG) http://www.geting.se/image.php/240696-IMG_1568.JPG (http://www.geting.se/viewimage/image/240696-IMG_1568.JPG) http://www.geting.se/image.php/240694-IMG_1569.JPG (http://www.geting.se/viewimage/image/240694-IMG_1569.JPG) http://www.geting.se/image.php/240695-IMG_1570.JPG (http://www.geting.se/viewimage/image/240695-IMG_1570.JPG) http://www.geting.se/image.php/240697-IMG_1571.JPG (http://www.geting.se/viewimage/image/240697-IMG_1571.JPG)

[WaterFlex]

it seems i made my chip working at 500x9 :) some pics soon

[junior-21-]

Hi
This my settings on the M2F, may be useful to someone.

http://www.geting.se/image.php/240693-IMG_1567.JPG (http://www.geting.se/viewimage/image/240693-IMG_1567.JPG) http://www.geting.se/image.php/240696-IMG_1568.JPG (http://www.geting.se/viewimage/image/240696-IMG_1568.JPG) http://www.geting.se/image.php/240694-IMG_1569.JPG (http://www.geting.se/viewimage/image/240694-IMG_1569.JPG) http://www.geting.se/image.php/240695-IMG_1570.JPG (http://www.geting.se/viewimage/image/240695-IMG_1570.JPG) http://www.geting.se/image.php/240697-IMG_1571.JPG (http://www.geting.se/viewimage/image/240697-IMG_1571.JPG)


thanx for sharing!

what r your temps there?

[pawelzolo]

http://www.geting.se/image.php/261507-Untitled.jpg (http://www.geting.se/viewimage/image/261507-Untitled.jpg)

[humeyboy]

it seems i made my chip working at 500x9 :) some pics soon

Well hurry it up already LOL

Every time I see one of these posts it give me hope !

I am not on newest Bios as it supposedly is only to add a few newer Dual Core CPU's.

I gave up messing as above 475FSB too too much time and voltage/tweaks and was not stable from 1 day to the next or infact 1 boot to next reboot.

I tied mines down to needing the 50ps instead of 100ps increments for Skews on CPU and NB but Asus never did add this.

There was no point in me having 475FSB with low voltages and no major tweaks and then having to pump to far higher (still safe) voltages and tweak like mad for days to get 480-490FSB to find it was stable 1 boot and not the next boot.

[junior-21-]

http://www.geting.se/image.php/261507-Untitled.jpg (http://www.geting.se/viewimage/image/261507-Untitled.jpg)

nice one

your temps under 100% load? :)

[Saturn™]

I can not come on Ket's page, how me to download Modbioses for M2F?

[CryptiK]

it seems i made my chip working at 500x9 :) some pics soon

Pics or it didn't happen :D

[humeyboy]

I can get 500FSB right now but it will not Stress for any length of time.

I have seen it and heard it all and have yet to see a MFII pass Prime etc at 500FSB on a Quad.

I know there must be a few lucky ones with good sample Mobos out there though and it does not matter if A2 or A3 NB.

[radaja]

I can not come on Ket's page, how me to download Modbioses for M2F?

@Saturn,you can try the DL Linky at the bottom of the page.the first one dont work.
use at your own risk:rolleyes:
Kets ultimate mainboard BIOS mods (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4429387&postcount=10)

or try this
Maximus 2 Formula mBIOS.rar 2302 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=91P76E7U)

[Saturn™]

Thanks, but it has not helped me... mother does not wish 533Мhz to hold... I haven't already force and patience. :wth:
Maybe is the processor unsuccessful or memory?

[k0rnh0li0]

this or rampage extreme. extreme is more rare'r that runs @ 16x but this board can run sli @ only 8x... correct me if i'm wrong

[WaterFlex]

Pics or it didn't happen :D

just wait a bit :rolleyes:

[humeyboy]

M8, that has been OVER 1 month since you psoted that claim !

If you have by some miracle found some magic setting please FGS share them !

[WaterFlex]

humeyboy
sorry mate, i was busy at work a lot. Will post pics on Sunday ;)

[radaja]

its monday where are the pics:shrug:

[humeyboy]

:horse:

[CL3P20]

Thanks, but it has not helped me... mother does not wish 533Мhz to hold... I haven't already force and patience. :wth:
Maybe is the processor unsuccessful or memory?

You are running a dual-core on your MIIF correct? Other than memory or NB ..you should not have any 'wall' at such low fsb. I do not know any E8xxx that has fsb wall below 600mhz or at all for that matter... :shrug: ..I was running ~1.48v MCHv for 533-570mhz fsb.. so long as mem latency was kept above 50-52ns.. [using 2x1's of course].

[WaterFlex]

Guys, I can`t make my board work at FSB 500:shrug:

[radaja]

it seems i made my chip working at 500x9 :) some pics soon

just wait a bit :rolleyes:

humeyboy
sorry mate, i was busy at work a lot. Will post pics on Sunday ;)

then what was all this about?:shrug:

[WaterFlex]

then what was all this about?:shrug:

I have errors when running the test after 20-30 mins :(

[MrDucky]

So post your settings maybe some people still can help you to finetune?

[BailA]

Hi hello, you know where I can find the bios mBIOS 2302 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4429387&postcount=10)?
Thanks

[eSp!s0]

Here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?253583-Kets-ultimate-mainboard-BIOS-mods&p=4429387&viewfull=1#post4429387

[ricardomollik]

Hello, I need help 4.0 Ghz, so I'm getting 3.80 GHz

Processor: q9550 e0 (vid 1.25v)
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8.5
FSB Frequency: 450
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: Auto
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Auto
Ai Transaction Booster: Auto

Common Performance Level: Auto
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 101

CPU Voltage: 1.32500
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56625
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.35175
DRAM Voltage: 2.30350
North Bridge Voltage: 1.33850
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: Auto
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: Auto

CPU GTL Reference (0): 70
CPU GTL Reference (1): 70
CPU GTL Reference (2): 70
CPU GTL Reference (3): 70
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 8.5
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled


my configuration:

Core 2 Quad Q9550 @4.0GHZ|Cooler CPU Corsair Hydro H70|Asus Maximus II Formula (P45)|GeIL PC 8500 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR2 1066Mhz|1 CRUCIAL M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA III SSD com SO|1 OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD2-2VTXE120G 2.5" 120GB SSD FSX|2x1TB(RAID0) WD Caviar Black(WD1002FAEX) SATA 6Gb/s 7200RPM 64MB|HighPoint RocketRAID 2710 PCI-Express 2.0 x8 SAS/SATA 6Gb/s|EVGA GeForce GTX 460 FTW 1024MB GDDR5 EE(External Exhaust)|Fonte CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W SLI/CrossFire Active Power|Gabinete Cooler Master HAF 922|LG 37LH55 37-Inch 1080p 240MHZ LCD HDTV|Windows 7 Ultimate Final 64 bits

[humeyboy]

Some of those settings at high for 450FSB, even if it was set to more stressful 1:1 Ratio!

You need to find a good NB GTL setting not leave at auto and CPU GTL's should not really be +or - 70 if you worked out the calculations!

I had issues over 425FSB till I set NB to +40, then its a brick wall at 475FSB same as most users find with a Quad and very hard to get past it unless your lucky with a good sample Mobo!

I got some 1200mhz Memory the other day to see if its really easier to do 5:6 over 1:1 and even though it runs them at 1200mhz I still cannot get any higher FSB that is 100% stable, 500FSB for me is not going to happen on a Quad only my older Dual.

Mobo lacks any real support and Bioses were crap!

[ricardomollik]

Some of those settings at high for 450FSB, even if it was set to more stressful 1:1 Ratio!

You need to find a good NB GTL setting not leave at auto and CPU GTL's should not really be +or - 70 if you worked out the calculations!

I had issues over 425FSB till I set NB to +40, then its a brick wall at 475FSB same as most users find with a Quad and very hard to get past it unless your lucky with a good sample Mobo!

I got some 1200mhz Memory the other day to see if its really easier to do 5:6 over 1:1 and even though it runs them at 1200mhz I still cannot get any higher FSB that is 100% stable, 500FSB for me is not going to happen on a Quad only my older Dual.

Mobo lacks any real support and Bioses were crap!

It's difficult to get a set, you can pass me your configuration because it should serve as a sample

thanks

[ricardomollik]

with VTT ​​1.32500, which the values ​​of GTL's? how to calculate
0/2 (ref. VTT x 0.635) =
1/2 (ref. VTT x 0.667) =

NB GTL (ref. VTT x 0.64) =

thank you

[humeyboy]

1st post shows GLT's in layman's terms, remember you have a 45nm CPU not 65nm.



http://forums.pureoverclock.com/showthread.php?4932-Maximus-II-Formula-Club

[ricardomollik]

1st post shows GLT's in layman's terms, remember you have a 45nm CPU not 65nm.



http://forums.pureoverclock.com/showthread.php?4932-Maximus-II-Formula-Club

thanks for the help, very good site:up:

[ricardomollik]

Hello,
according to my calculations GTLs is;

CPU Voltage: 1.32500
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56625
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.35175
DRAM Voltage: 2.30
North Bridge Voltage: 1.33850
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: Auto
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: Auto

CPU GTL Reference (0): 30
CPU GTL Reference (1): -10
CPU GTL Reference (2): 30
CPU GTL Reference (3): -10
NB GTL Reference: ?

how to calculate the value NB GTL Reference: ?

[humeyboy]

NB is not as clearly stated anywhere!

I think I Googled links and ended up using same calc as CPU's but for whatever nm (size) the NB is (cannot remember right now but it may be 80-90nm).

[CryptiK]

I set NB GTL by testing. It varies from board to board, just have to find the sweet spot. With mine, it'd be stable in Prime/LinX and mem tests, then it'd crash out of games (crysis I think i was playing a lot at that time). By dropping the NB GTL to -30mv or so it fixed it right up. For others they needed to do for ex +30mv.......just depends.

[TonyL222]

Need some advice. I "upgraded" my VGA card from an ATI Radeon HD 4870 to a 4870x2. After the install of the new card, I cannot get the system to power on. When I turn on the PSU, the "Republic of Gammers" light, power on and reset lights on the mobo, and the CMOS reste light/button on the IO panel flash repeatedly. The BIOs LED also flashes. So , why don't I go back to the old 4870 to rule out the card? My card is water cooled, and I want to avoid disconnecting the plumbing if I can.

I have verified that it's not the PSU by hooking it to a tester. Thoughts? Is there a particular BOIs level needed to support the x2 card?

Thanks for any feedback.

***UPDATE*** - Never mind. Bad USB2 card in the PCI slot. Replaced and all is well.

[humeyboy]

Should make zero difference, its SLI/Crossfire on a stick for dual GPU cards so its seen as a single GPU until you install drivers in Windows!

[Ender3rd]

Unfortunately, I've misplaced my Maximus II Formula's installation disk which had all the device drivers for XP. I've searched the ASUS site for an ISO but don't see anything there. So... I'm curious how a Windows 7 installation would go with this board with whatever drivers it may have. Has ASUS released Win7 drivers for this board or has it fallen into the "no longer supported" category? It still runs great but has been relegated to more mundane chores as a P8Z68 Deluxe now sits on the gaming bench.

Thanks,

Ender

[humeyboy]

The drivers are all there on the Asus site or better still get latest from the actual vendors : i.e. Intel Chipset+Storage drivers from Intel and Marvel NIC drivers from Marvel as they are normally newer!


The CD's are out of date by time you buy the Mobo!


Win 7 : http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=Maximus%20II%20Formula&p=1&s=22&os=30&hashedid=hOVim24yGru3f3g6

[Ender3rd]

Thanks very much for the link! You know, I used the search function at the ASUS site to look for Maximus II Formula drivers and it kept returning "0 items found". My attempts to navigate to specific drivers was also a trip down an endless rabbit hole. Then again, my wife can find anything I'm looking for in my own closet when I can't. Thanks again for the help!

Ender