ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[Grnfinger]

Could u pls give us any more info?

I tried for starts running CPU and NB Clock Skew on normal, and needed to set vCore at 1.38 for 4.2GHz, so new chip and all I started tweaking ( 500 FSB still evades me ) I set CPU and NB skews to 100ps and lowerd vcore, it passed. set it to 200ps and lowerd, it passed again. 300ps and lowerd it failed, up'd vCore to 1.325 @ 300ps on both skews it passes linpak and prime.

Now on to NB volts, started with NB GTL set to auto, set ram at 1121MHz with vNB set to 1.39

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : Enabled
MEM OC Charger : Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

CPU would pass but once I brought the memory in to play it would fail.
So I upped NB volts to 1.45775 and it would pass anything I tossed at it.
Set NB GTL's to +30 and I could lower vNB to 1.41, anything lower and it fails.
If I run 1:1 PL10 I can drop vNB to 1.30 and pass all day long. I like the improved bandwidth 1121 offers and I'm on water so the extra volts are not an issue.

Will test further this weekend, this time of year my job has me pretty busy so has not been alot of "free" time for me.

[pphx459]

Thanks for the advice, will try that this weekend. :)

[Grnfinger]

Latency is crapola but teh bandwidth is rather decent.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4250_Q9650.png

[JoeBar]

Thanks for sharing your findings Grnfinger! :)

BTW, why do u have mem oc charger set to enabled? Try with it disabled and check your mem scores.

[Grnfinger]

Thanks for sharing your findings Grnfinger! :)

BTW, why do u have mem oc charger set to enabled? Try with it disabled and check your mem scores.

It is actually disabled its a typo from another template I posted.
I will edit the post.

[pphx459]

Thanks for sharing your findings Grnfinger! :)

BTW, why do u have mem oc charger set to enabled? Try with it disabled and check your mem scores.


Why wouldn't you have mem oc charger enabled?

[Grnfinger]

Why wouldn't you have mem oc charger enabled?

Because it limits bandwidth

[Simonix]

sorry, so the last and better mod bios is the 1901.201 ?

[529th]

Well, managed to get into windows a 480fsb & @ 46min into prime blend...

[Nevin]

I want to ask is there someone with 8x560 or 8x570 stable, I need to see some settings.

[Evil_AnAnAs]

I have a huge problem with this board... When I use 1,7vcore it fine but anything above that will make the system failing. It dies when I get the "overvoltage protection bla bla bla" I can get into bios and there when I monitor the voltage it's 1,9xv (when setting 1,74v). I'm using kets modded bios. Would a new bios help me?

[Grnfinger]

I have a huge problem with this board... When I use 1,7vcore it fine but anything above that will make the system failing. It dies when I get the "overvoltage protection bla bla bla" I can get into bios and there when I monitor the voltage it's 1,9xv (when setting 1,74v). I'm using kets modded bios. Would a new bios help me?

A new bios is definately worth a try, I have 1802 on bios1 and 1901 on bios2
Works great, benching setup for 1 and 24/7 setup for the other.

[CryptiK]

I have a huge problem with this board... When I use 1,7vcore it fine but anything above that will make the system failing. It dies when I get the "overvoltage protection bla bla bla" I can get into bios and there when I monitor the voltage it's 1,9xv (when setting 1,74v). I'm using kets modded bios. Would a new bios help me?

Try the latest BIOS, and try disabling Loadline Calibration if you have it enabled.

[edo]

Hi guys, could you tell me some tips&triks to get my 9550 work @ 500 fsb ?

mi result up to now
(RS)


http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1515/4150.th.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4150.jpg)

[GeorgeVasil]

Hello Guyz..

Ia am trying this settings..but i cant play PL8 + Strong or Stronger.:(

This Settings are prime stable for me.

8400+Gskill 8800PI+BIOS 1901.



Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 470
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1130MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto

DRAM Timing Control: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 8
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 101

CPU Voltage: 1.24
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.19
DRAM Voltage: 2.07
North Bridge Voltage: 1.32X
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.55
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.15

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled


Any idea to make it stable @Strong or Stronger?:(

Also,when you flash to 1901 BIOS,RAID ICHx status disappears :(:( ?

[CryptiK]

You will need more vNB to get 470 FSB PL8 stable with strong/stronger.

I run 470 x 9 PL8 moderate 24/7 and it takes ~1.34vNB for total stability - HCI memtest really loads up the NB and at 1.30 - 1.32v I get errors before 1000% coverage.

[jason4207]

Hi guys, could you tell me some tips&triks to get my 9550 work @ 500 fsb ?

mi result up to now
(RS)


http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1515/4150.th.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4150.jpg)

I spent 4 weeks trying to get 490 stable. I can bench at 500, but there is no 24/7 stability. I gave up, and am running it at 471 now. I know I can go higher, but pushing the FSB to the ragged edge doesn't work well on this board. It's flaky and settings that were stable yesterday may not be stable today.

It looks like you're running small-fft. That's good for CPU top speed, but for testing the limits of the FSB I suggest you try large-fft. I think you'll see it fail much sooner and at lower FSB speeds.

[Rocks]

I'm done with this board and it's crappy memory bandwidth/bugs and support. Just bought a Rampage Extreme. In case you are interested they have them here for dirt cheap:

http://www.priceguidenetwork.com/asus-motherboard-rampage-extreme-c2d-intelx48-ddr3-2pcie2.0x16-sata2-audio-rampage-extreme.html

Hope you guys get a good working BIOS. I will be selling my board on ebay within the next few weeks.

--Rocks

[529th]

So I really haven't done too long of stability testing through p95 but I am at 480fsb
1.43v
2.10dram
1.10sb
1.55sb15
1.69pll
1.55nb
1.40vtt

did some np & cpu delay of 100ps and channel A & B 100ps delay; and a few other tweaks but before I get going on my UD3R board. I am wondering if 110f is too hot for my NB - I have active cooling by a 120x38mm fan blowing over the area but it still gets warmer.

[Grnfinger]

110F = 43C
Thats not bad mine hits that after a few hours of benching and stability is there
Intel white paper states it can take alot more, I have found if you keep it under 50c or 122f your good

[529th]

Cool, thanks :)

I have also have another question: what is the Ai Clock Twister? And does the UD3R have something comparable to this? Thanks :)

[edo]

I spent 4 weeks trying to get 490 stable. I can bench at 500, but there is no 24/7 stability. I gave up, and am running it at 471 now. I know I can go higher, but pushing the FSB to the ragged edge doesn't work well on this board. It's flaky and settings that were stable yesterday may not be stable today.

It looks like you're running small-fft. That's good for CPU top speed, but for testing the limits of the FSB I suggest you try large-fft. I think you'll see it fail much sooner and at lower FSB speeds.

i'll try large fft :)

yes it's quite hard to get 500.. probably with nexts bios we could get al least 494x8.5 for 24/7 :)

[529th]

i'll try large fft :)

yes it's quite hard to get 500.. probably with nexts bios we could get al least 494x8.5 for 24/7 :)

I wouldn't count on it

[Grnfinger]

Cool, thanks :)

I have also have another question: what is the Ai Clock Twister? And does the UD3R have something comparable to this? Thanks :)

I'm no engineer so here is my best attempt to explain it.

Ai Clock Twister will tighten your sub timings increasing performance/bandwidth when set to strong or stronger
Moderate will run sub timing at or around stock
Light will relax them a tad allowing for improved overclocking.

Not sure what Gigabyte calls it or if they have it as an option in the bios.

[529th]

I'm no engineer so here is my best attempt to explain it.

Ai Clock Twister will tighten your sub timings increasing performance/bandwidth when set to strong or stronger
Moderate will run sub timing at or around stock
Light will relax them a tad allowing for improved overclocking.

Not sure what Gigabyte calls it or if they have it as an option in the bios.

Interesting! thanks alot Grnfinger

[GeorgeVasil]

You will need more vNB to get 470 FSB PL8 stable with strong/stronger.

I run 470 x 9 PL8 moderate 24/7 and it takes ~1.34vNB for total stability - HCI memtest really loads up the NB and at 1.30 - 1.32v I get errors before 1000% coverage.

Oh Yeah..:p:

More Vnb means More VTT..(>1.20)..

@!#$!@#$!@# ASUS.

[Kayso]

To everybody with watercooled MIIF.

Can you please post some pictures of your system? I need info, how do you connect CPU block with NBMax block. How long is the tubing, what is the bending radius and etc.

Thanks in advance !!

[seba84_2005]

To everybody with watercooled MIIF.

Can you please post some pictures of your system? I need info, how do you connect CPU block with NBMax block. How long is the tubing, what is the bending radius and etc.

Thanks in advance !!

;)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3670539&postcount=3190
(http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3670539&postcount=3190)

[Grnfinger]

To everybody with watercooled MIIF.

Can you please post some pictures of your system? I need info, how do you connect CPU block with NBMax block. How long is the tubing, what is the bending radius and etc.

Thanks in advance !!



I dont use the NBMax I use the MCW30 but the concept is the same.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0035-1.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0037-1.jpg

[JoeBar]

To everybody with watercooled MIIF.

Can you please post some pictures of your system? I need info, how do you connect CPU block with NBMax block. How long is the tubing, what is the bending radius and etc.

Thanks in advance !!

Use the farthest away bards. If your tubing still kinks (which i highly doubt), use smartcoils...

[529th]

Anyone know what advancing the clock skew on the DRAM does? Does increase performance?

I"ve advanced mine to 350ps and am testing Large FFT's on prime with 480fsb & 8.5multi..

why won't this board do over 500fsb :shakes:

[Grnfinger]

Anyone know what advancing the clock skew on the DRAM does? Does increase performance?

I"ve advanced mine to 350ps and am testing Large FFT's on prime with 480fsb & 8.5multi..

why won't this board do over 500fsb :shakes:

It helps in stability, it will do nothing for performance increase.

[WhiteFireDragon]

Grnfinger, what brand tubing is that? i can't get the tubes to not kink when connecting the CPU to the NB block.

[Kayso]

Grnfinger, what brand tubing is that? i can't get the tubes to not kink when connecting the CPU to the NB block.

Mine are Tygon tubing 1/2" ID, and believe me, they don't kink :)

[Simonix]

This is world record Maximus II Formula 610 FSB of air, and this is just the beginning:

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=526302

[CryptiK]

Congrats Simone, nice work. What vNB did you use?

[Simonix]

Congrats Simone, nice work. What vNB did you use?

1.48V

[Nevin]

Yes but with multiplier 6 , why don't you try 8x585 i want to see 20 loops IBT I just can't do it.

[radaja]

very nice Simonix,looking forward to more high fsb runs from you.keep pushing

[WaterFlex]

Simonix
Very nice :up:

[529th]

This is world record Maximus II Formula 610 FSB of air, and this is just the beginning:

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=526302

try that with a quad then i'd be impressed

[529th]

It helps in stability, it will do nothing for performance increase.

I've tried doing 4.4.4.12 @ 450fsb with my DDR2 1000 and it will not run stable. All I got is 480 with 5.5.5.15, CPL 10 and Ai Clock Twister on Stronger. Are there any other memory performance increases I can do? I won't post at 450 & PL 8 even with 5.5.5.15...

[WaterFlex]

529th
MIIF can rock quads as good as duals.

[Simonix]

630 DI FSB

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=526483 :shocked:

[screwtech02]

529th
MIIF can rock quads as good as duals.

Please to show links and proof???? Never seen a quad on this board over 500 before....:rolleyes:

[529th]

529th
MIIF can rock quads as good as duals.

Have you tried that? This machine I am typing on is a Asus P5Q Premium with my 8400 C0 doing 500x8. I currently can't get my Q9650 above 480 on my MIIF. My cpu will do 4Ghz but will not do 8x500 stable & I am not seeing people rock 500fsb with a quad & MIIF

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger, what brand tubing is that? i can't get the tubes to not kink when connecting the CPU to the NB block.

I use Primoflex and the stuff Swiftech sells, I do believe that photo is of the 7/16th Swiftech tubing.

Tygon will not kink nor will the chepo stuff from home depot, my only gripe with home depot tubing is that it gets cloudy after a while, no problems if you use dyes but if your running clear water than its not so nice.


I've tried doing 4.4.4.12 @ 450fsb with my DDR2 1000 and it will not run stable. All I got is 480 with 5.5.5.15, CPL 10 and Ai Clock Twister on Stronger. Are there any other memory performance increases I can do? I won't post at 450 & PL 8 even with 5.5.5.15...

450FSB on the 333 strap should post with ram set to 1081MHz.
See if you can post with that setup, if so I have a few memory tweaks to get you some decent bandwidth,



630 DI FSB

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=526483 :shocked:

VERY VERY NCE!!! :up:
I'm beginning to think that the board runs very well when cold

[529th]

450FSB on the 333 strap should post with ram set to 1081MHz.
See if you can post with that setup, if so I have a few memory tweaks to get you some decent bandwidth,


Was that with 4.4.4.12 or 5.5.5.15?

nm, it's having a hard time at 5.5.5 ... i'm going to see if i can get it stable, but in the meantime, what are your recommendations?

[Grnfinger]

Was that with 4.4.4.12 or 5.5.5.15?

5-5-5-15

[529th]

5-5-5-15

No, it won't post let alone be stable

[Grnfinger]

No, it won't post let alone be stable

What ram are you running?

[529th]

What ram are you running?

Gskill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ
5.5.5.15 2.0-2.1v

[Grnfinger]

Gskill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ
5.5.5.15 2.0-2.1v

There powerchip IC's, they will max out at around 520MHz or so.

I would suggest trying to run 450FSB and run the ram 1:1
you might have better luck on the 333 strap so play with both 400 and 333 straps. After you get 900MHz to boot in to your OS, you can tweak the timing.
GSkill ram is funny on timing so try 5-4-4-12 and set trfc to 50 or 55
you can also try 5-4-3-12 @2.2v with trfc set to 50 or 55.
Play with volts, powerchips dont normally scale much with volts, but I have found GSkills usually require a drop or 2 more in the bucket to keep them stable at there rated speed.
Dram Clock SKew will also help to settle the ram down

[CryptiK]

Managed to push my board a few MHz higher in max everest bench speed to 667.5 MHz

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/CryptiKone/Everest6675MHz.jpg

[Grnfinger]

Managed to push my board a few MHz higher in max everest bench speed to 667.5 MHz



Hey CryptiK I have a question for you.

My Corsair Dominators vers 1.1 Micron D9GMH that did 1200+MHz on my X38 board will not even post at 1150 on this board. Is there something I'm over looking or is it all part of the Maximus experience.
I see others getting 1200 on this board with lesser ram so I nkow its posible

Nice results btw :up:

[Leeghoofd]

Managed to push my board a few MHz higher in max everest bench speed to 667.5 MHz

Nice ram speed there, I was already happy with my Gskills at 1280mhz lol :up:

[gravimag]

Hi all, i have a problem with RAM. Currently I have installed OCZ 2x2 reaper 1066, which is totally unstable with high FSB. I want to get new RAM but this time I need something what is fully compatible with M2F motherboard. What would you recommend? I’m looking for 2x2GB 1066MHz stable with high FSB. thanks :)

[Grnfinger]

Hi all, i have a problem with RAM. Currently I have installed OCZ 2x2 reaper 1066, which is totally unstable with high FSB. I want to get new RAM but this time I need something what is fully compatible with M2F motherboard. What would you recommend? I’m looking for 2x2GB 1066MHz stable with high FSB. thanks :)

Mushkin XP2 996599 2x2GB

GSkill F2-8500CL5D 2x2GB

GSkill F2-8800CL5D 2x2GB

Corsair Dominator 8500 2x2GB

I own them all and have tested these kits on 2 MIIF boards with great results

[JoeBar]

Mushkin runs on my system perfectly @ 530mhz sync.

Also the other options, Grnfinger suggested, are nice kits.

[gravimag]

Mushkin XP2 996599 2x2GB

GSkill F2-8500CL5D 2x2GB

GSkill F2-8800CL5D 2x2GB

Corsair Dominator 8500 2x2GB

I own them all and have tested these kits on 2 MIIF boards with great results

all of them run with 550+ FSB? i'll try:
F2-8500CL5D-4GBPI or TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF

[humeyboy]

Hey CryptiK I have a question for you.

My Corsair Dominators vers 1.1 Micron D9GMH that did 1200+MHz on my X38 board will not even post at 1150 on this board. Is there something I'm over looking or is it all part of the Maximus experience.
I see others getting 1200 on this board with lesser ram so I nkow its posible

Nice results btw :up:


Same here, cannot even save then boot out of Bios without lock up when I approach about 1175mhz on the same Ram as you no matter what settings or how much voltage I try.

[Grnfinger]

Same here, cannot even save then boot out of Bios without lock up when I approach about 1175mhz on the same Ram as you no matter what settings or how much voltage I try.

Its frustrating for sure, my best kit of ram will do nothing on this board.
Hard to bench without a stellar kit of ram

[Simonix]

635 FSB :eek: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=527270

[CryptiK]

Hey CryptiK I have a question for you.

My Corsair Dominators vers 1.1 Micron D9GMH that did 1200+MHz on my X38 board will not even post at 1150 on this board. Is there something I'm over looking or is it all part of the Maximus experience.
I see others getting 1200 on this board with lesser ram so I nkow its posible

Nice results btw :up:

Not sure if all D9 can do those speeds, the older stuff generally needed more voltage for higher speeds, and the v1.x Corsairs are 2005/2006 models.

The M2F seems to have quite low drive strength compared to other boards, and as such doesn't clock ram so well.

For 667.5 MHz I used:

2:3 divider
vdimm: ~2.40v
vNB: ~1.40
PL: 8
Mem OC Charger: Enabled (this is critical for 600MHz + ram speeds as as far as I can tell it increases drive strength)
Dram read training: Enabled
Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate


Nice ram speed there, I was already happy with my Gskills at 1280mhz lol :up:

Thanks. I can bench SPI32M at 640 MHz (DDR2-1280) @ 2.24v on this board but that is sadly the upper limit for 32M stability. My P5Q-D can pass SPI32M at 651 MHz (DDR2-1302) @ 2.24v which isn't bad but isn't great either.


Same here, cannot even save then boot out of Bios without lock up when I approach about 1175mhz on the same Ram as you no matter what settings or how much voltage I try.

Give the settings I stated above a go. It may be a few things holding you back, however a lot of people are having trouble with higher ram clocks on this board. I'd like to try my ram kits on a better board as they seem to be doing ok on this one compared to others.


635 FSB :eek: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=527270

Nicely done :up: Do you have the NB on DICE or air? Your cpu is the best batch of 8600 available, you should be very happy with it.

[humeyboy]

@ CryptiK, I basically had used them same settings and printed your out and retried.

There is no way I can get it to even save and exit bios and not freeze up (even using 1 Module).

I know its the Mobo and not the Memory as above peep has same Memory and can do 1200mhz easy in other Mobo's.

I will just put it down to another Asus ballsup and many here claimed to have RMA'd this Mobo as it does not run the 1200mhz Memory it claims to supports, I would if they made this Mobo with a Rev A3 NB instead of only the lower models now having A3 NB's which now also have Turbo versions for sale (or soon to be for sale) supporting 1333mnhz DDR2. :(


http://www.tcmagazine.info/comments.php?shownews=24958&catid=2

[SiGfever]

These are my 24/7 settings. I know this board has more in it for my setup just haven't had the time to tweak it.

[seba84_2005]

635 FSB :eek: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=527270

;)

670 FSB http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=376603

[humeyboy]

Ok DDR3 part is bug but what's the point in 1 stick of Memory in Single Channel Mode. ;)

[radaja]

its so he can go for the highest fsb possible

[JoeBar]

These are my 24/7 settings. I know this board has more in it for my setup just haven't had the time to tweak it.
Nice SiG. Is this the top fsb u can achieve?

[humeyboy]

its so he can go for the highest fsb possible

OBV but its pointless and not as good as the other peeps lower FSB with Multiple Sticks in DCM. ;)

[radaja]

humeyboy,why must you crap on peoples achievements?do you even understand how amazing 670fsb is?

[Grnfinger]

;)

670 FSB http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=376603

Very :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing nice!!!!!!!

I am simply amazed, I would never think this board was capable

[humeyboy]

@ radaja, Lets get something completely crystal clear right now.

When have I ever crapped anyone achievments here PERIOD in all my years here ?

Back up your claims with quotes to my posts or stop talking TOSH !

He was quoting another peeps high FSB post and hinting his was better which is fine by me (friendly rivalry/competition is good) but the other peeps FSB is far harder to attain as it uses more than 1 Memory Module and is in Dual Channel Mode.

[Simonix]

boy, you do not know that with only one slot of ram go up more? I am with air;)


640 FSB AIR WITH TWO RAM:eek: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=528182

[SiGfever]

Nice SiG. Is this the top fsb u can achieve?

Thanks Pal, No I have had it higher but not 24/7 tested. I redid my GTL's and I can do this with 1.36v on this "C0". Some further tweaking should give me more, I just need to find the time. This is WCG "BOINC" 24/7 stable. :up:

I bumped it up a little...

[jesperme]

Nice Fsb some people got here:) to bad my board will not even post at 440fsb:shrug::down:

[humeyboy]

boy, you do not know that with only one slot of ram go up more? I am with air;)


640 FSB AIR WITH TWO RAM:eek: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=528182

Well done :up:, lets leave the old Single Module in Single Channel Mode trick to get higher FSB for the old NF2 days. :p:

[screwtech02]

I aggree with Humeyboy... When i see some benchmarks with a 24/7 rig, fully loaded, quad, 8gb, 2 vid cards, 4 or more harddrives, ect, that can do anywhere near or above 500fsb without sub-zero, nuclear powered cooling... Then i will say "good job", "i'm impressed"...

Most of the "extreme bench's" are done with stuff the average guy, doesnt have, nor has the "license" for...

Not bashing anyone, just my :2cents:......

Need to see some more PCI vid cards too.... Those are "hella bad" in a "top end", "not enclosed in a case" rig....:up:

[edo]

I aggree with Humeyboy... When i see some benchmarks with a 24/7 rig, fully loaded, quad, 8gb, 2 vid cards, 4 or more harddrives, ect, that can do anywhere near or above 500fsb without sub-zero, nuclear powered cooling... Then i will say "good job", "i'm impressed"...

Most of the "extreme bench's" are done with stuff the average guy, doesnt have, nor has the "license" for...

Not bashing anyone, just my :2cents:......

Need to see some more PCI vid cards too.... Those are "hella bad" in a "top end", "not enclosed in a case" rig....:up:

here we go : 500 fsb on pc in sign

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=528628

[screwtech02]

here we go : 500 fsb on pc in sign

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=528628

Dude, thats what i've been talkin about.....:cool:

ALOT more realistic.... Good job man....:up:

[humeyboy]

here we go : 500 fsb on pc in sign

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=528628

:up:

[CryptiK]

boy, you do not know that with only one slot of ram go up more? I am with air;)


640 FSB AIR WITH TWO RAM:eek: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=528182

Brilliant, you are going very well indeed.


******************

I got a response from a helpful person at Asus who chased up the Phase-pull in issue for me.

" I checked the Pull-in issue with relative department for you.

The option Pull-In of CHA PH1~4(Pull-In the first data phase of Channel A) is used to decide at which phase the FSB aligns with the memory.

Because there is a ratio problem between FSB and RAM(memory).

Usually, after enabling Pull-In of CHA/B PH1, there will be a 0.3 percent increase in Everest read performance test.

And the Sandra memory bandwidth will have about 0.38 percent increase."

Not exactly what I wanted to hear, but I guess that's all it is, a very sight increase, almost immeasurable and well within repeat run variance. I have tried countless times with everest and more accurately SPI32M, and never found any increase at all from the phase pull-ins.

[Grnfinger]

Phase Pull-Ins on the X38 Maximus lowerd PL one level and would increase bandwidth buy a noticable amount
looks to me Asus is trying to avoid the issue altogether. This unfortunately will be my last Asus product for along time

[Simonix]

People write to asus for a program to oc from windows as i7 for this motherboard?

[CryptiK]

New PB ram clock done. I managed 672 MHz CL5.

Settings:

vNB = 1.35v
vdimm = 2.40v
PL = 10
NB DDR2 Ref = +37.5mv
DDR2 CH A/B Ref = +12.5mv

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/CryptiKone/672MHz240v.jpg

[Celcius]

Nice FSB's :up:

[529th]

Phase Pull-Ins on the X38 Maximus lowerd PL one level and would increase bandwidth buy a noticable amount
looks to me Asus is trying to avoid the issue altogether. This unfortunately will be my last Asus product for along time

+1

I'm done with their shat. I feel like I've been AIG'd by buying their products the past 5 out of the last 8-9 yrs.

AIG'd = AIG is asking for money bailouts (e.g. 33 billion bail-out) from the US government and giving it to their top executives as bonuses.... well i'm not that mad at asus but that's the last i'll buy their product until I see atleast 5 5-star ratings from their boards from respectable review sights.

RUN AND HIDE AIG

[GFORCE100]

Phase Pull-Ins on the X38 Maximus lowerd PL one level and would increase bandwidth buy a noticable amount
looks to me Asus is trying to avoid the issue altogether. This unfortunately will be my last Asus product for along time

Like I stated above somewhere, it's about the little people and the big people.

Surface to say, if we were CEO's of an Asus big OEM who buys thousands if not millions of boards from them to build our PC's, notebooks, servers etc. and if we said hey we want these pull-ins working then you can be sure their reaction would be oh so different.

There are little fish and there are big fish. The only way for Asus to really pay attention is a) spread the word for folks to stop buying Asus boards, this would have to be large-scale, b) get the media involved to write a nice article/or do a video review on how Asus releases half-baked products.

If a company is small it usually listens to the tune of buyers making sure it delivers on what's expected. Large companies are rather only concerned with their pay checks, share options, retirement funds, keeping that nice office leather chair profoundly heated, buying yachts, checking out concierge services and so forth. Money gets to people's heads a lot of the time, once it does they feel to be kings and queens of this world, untouchable.

Do you really think Asus's CEO even knows they have a product called Maximus Formula II? :) You'd be surprised, though if you asked him about Sushi, he could tell you all the great places in Tapei.

Agreed though, it is pathetic how they treat enthusiasts.

[lha]

You guys know if this mobo supports setfsb program fully?

This far i have used ICS9LPRS918BKL

[529th]

Like I stated above somewhere, it's about the little people and the big people.

Surface to say, if we were CEO's of an Asus big OEM who buys thousands if not millions of boards from them to build our PC's, notebooks, servers etc. and if we said hey we want these pull-ins working then you can be sure their reaction would be oh so different.

There are little fish and there are big fish. The only way for Asus to really pay attention is a) spread the word for folks to stop buying Asus boards, this would have to be large-scale, b) get the media involved to write a nice article/or do a video review on how Asus releases half-baked products.

If a company is small it usually listens to the tune of buyers making sure it delivers on what's expected. Large companies are rather only concerned with their pay checks, share options, retirement funds, keeping that nice office leather chair profoundly heated, buying yachts, checking out concierge services and so forth. Money gets to people's heads a lot of the time, once it does they feel to be kings and queens of this world, untouchable.

Do you really think Asus's CEO even knows they have a product called Maximus Formula II? :) You'd be surprised, though if you asked him about Sushi, he could tell you all the great places in Tapei.

Agreed though, it is pathetic how they treat enthusiasts.

I'll tell you one place they'd listen NEW EGG 'customer reviews'

[okorop]

People write to asus for a program to oc from windows as i7 for this motherboard?

learn how to write in english before posting in this forum....what do you mean by the frase you wrote? ;)

[529th]

People write to asus for a program to oc from windows as i7 for this motherboard?

rearrange these words please so that we may understand your question or statement and respond appropriately .

[Grnfinger]

Maybe we all could use normal font size, and there is no reason to insult anyone for there english

[SiGfever]

People write to asus for a program to oc from windows as i7 for this motherboard?

I think that this gentleman is asking for a Windows 7 based program for overclocking the board like Abit had for the IP35 Pro MB "uGuru".

And everyone lets all please remember that this is a worldwide forum and not everyone in this world speaks English and nor should they have to. :up:

[edo]

Dude, thats what i've been talkin about.....:cool:

ALOT more realistic.... Good job man....:up:


:up:

thank you guys :up:

anyway more than 500x8 i prefer this :cool:

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=529175

[humeyboy]

Funny I am from Scotland so we speak and write in real proper English unlike other countries but I can still fully understand the above peeps question with no difficulty what soever. ;)

[GFORCE100]

I'll tell you one place they'd listen NEW EGG 'customer reviews'

Newegg is just a large retailer, of which there are many. Even if Newegg stopped selling Asus boards, Asus would just beef up contracts with the other players without so much as a slight hiccup. Just because lots of people buy the MIIF doesn't mean they all know what pull-ins are and even after finding it out and the fact they don't work be bothered to post a review about it.

Companies thrive on the disinformation of a vast chunk of potential buyers. You don't need an excellent product to sell, you just need an OK product and great marketing.

You can make a good product for the mainstream that's 80% fine with only 20% effort. If you want it to be 100% fine then to get that extra missing 20% you'll need to spend 80% more effort. Asus doesn't want to spend more money than necessary, no way, unless it's to pay bonuses to their top management.

[okorop]

I think that this gentleman is asking for a Windows 7 based program for overclocking the board like Abit had for the IP35 Pro MB "uGuru".

And everyone lets all please remember that this is a worldwide forum and not everyone in this world speaks English and nor should they have to. :up:

now I understand
He is asking for a program like asus turbo v for this mobo....I don't think asus released something like turbo v for the previous mobo p45 and so on :) is not it?

[CryptiK]

I swapped to other BIOS chip using BIOS 1901 and 1:2 divider is working now. I took the cpuz SS then tried to run everest and it crashed unfortunately.

678 MHz CL5 @ 2.45v
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/CryptiKone/678mhz245v.jpg

[Leeghoofd]

Stop teasing us with ya mad rams ! but really Everest shows awesome bandwith etc but this is hardly reflected in eg Superpi32... I take everest with a BIG grain of salt !

[CryptiK]

Hehe sorry about that!

Yes Everest is just synthetic, it's nice for a quick demo but I also prefer something real like 32M to show performance. In my experience the M2F just can't pass SPI32M over 534 FSB / 640 MHz PL8. I have a feeling the MCH is at it's limit around there.

[Leeghoofd]

I'm fighting the P45 UD3P at the moment mate, stuck there at 570FSB Hyperpi 32Mb stable, 575 always gives me one error after each pass, tried zillions of combinations (volts, GTL's, PL's, timings,... ), other rams etc... think it's the limit of my board's chipset... it has to end somewhere lol

[CryptiK]

Yeah its tricky sometimes to make it pass, I assume that's on 1:1? I can get 550 FSB 1:1 PL 10 to pass but over that it falls part rapidly, same on my P5Q-Deluxe. Skews really helped me with stability, delay 150ps on each channel was the optimal setting at 534 - 542 FSB & 640 - 651 MHz ram with PL 8.

[529th]

Ok, so Quad cores and the MIIF board don't mix. What CPU are you using to achieve these high FSB's??? 8600??? I figure if I'm going to keep this board I might as well, get a CPU that I can have fun with. 480fsb with a quad is nice but 600+++ would be like heaven!

[CryptiK]

Simonix is usiing an 8600 see his valid link: Here (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=528182)

[jason4207]

Phase Pull-Ins on the X38 Maximus lowerd PL one level and would increase bandwidth buy a noticable amount
looks to me Asus is trying to avoid the issue altogether. This unfortunately will be my last Asus product for along time

Can't you just lower the PL on MIIF directly? I would assume that having the options separate would be more advantageous.

Or is it that the Phase Pull-Ins on the X38 allowed you to run a lower PL that would not run otherwise?

[jason4207]

Ok, so Quad cores and the MIIF board don't mix. What CPU are you using to achieve these high FSB's??? 8600??? I figure if I'm going to keep this board I might as well, get a CPU that I can have fun with. 480fsb with a quad is nice but 600+++ would be like heaven!

The MIIF does fine w/ quads, and for 24/7 you aren't going to get much higher clocks from a dual than a quad (4.2-4.4GHz vs 4.0-4.2GHz). So, ~200Mhz higher w/ the duals, but half the cores.

If you're just talking about benching then yes, the duals can be a lot more fun. You can get near the same results w/ an E8400 E0 as you can w/ the E8600, though, unless you get some extreme cooling. The E8400 has a 9x multi, and if you can get 600FSB then that puts you at 5.4GHz. You're well into extreme cooling at that speed, and the extra multi wouldn't be any good for anything else.

The main thing you want to do if you're shopping for a good dual to play w/ is to try and get a really good batch from somebody. A used chip that is a proven good OCer, or perhaps go to a store that lets you sift through the boxes to find a good batch. It doesn't matter if it's an E0 E8400, E8500, or E8600 as long as you get a really good batch.

[529th]

The MIIF does fine w/ quads, and for 24/7 you aren't going to get much higher clocks from a dual than a quad (4.2-4.4GHz vs 4.0-4.2GHz). So, ~200Mhz higher w/ the duals, but half the cores.

If you're just talking about benching then yes, the duals can be a lot more fun. You can get near the same results w/ an E8400 E0 as you can w/ the E8600, though, unless you get some extreme cooling. The E8400 has a 9x multi, and if you can get 600FSB then that puts you at 5.4GHz. You're well into extreme cooling at that speed, and the extra multi wouldn't be any good for anything else.

The main thing you want to do if you're shopping for a good dual to play w/ is to try and get a really good batch from somebody. A used chip that is a proven good OCer, or perhaps go to a store that lets you sift through the boxes to find a good batch. It doesn't matter if it's an E0 E8400, E8500, or E8600 as long as you get a really good batch.

The board is under a EK Supreme, 320, 355, 1/2id... will water be enough for 5.4Ghz 24/7 stable?

[Grnfinger]

Can't you just lower the PL on MIIF directly? I would assume that having the options separate would be more advantageous.

Or is it that the Phase Pull-Ins on the X38 allowed you to run a lower PL that would not run otherwise?

Correct

[jason4207]

The board is under a EK Supreme, 320, 355, 1/2id... will water be enough for 5.4Ghz 24/7 stable?

I think you'll need DI or LN2 for that speed, and it wouldn't be 24/7 in any case. All these high FSB speeds you're seeing are not 24/7 stable. I haven't done a lot of duallie super-high FSB 24/7 testing, but I'd say 533 would be getting near the limit for 24/7 stability. Maybe 550-575 if you're lucky. But then you can't run anything but a 1:1 divider, and have to settle for a looser PL.

9x500 w/ 5:6 divider and PL=8 Stronger is a good goal to reach for.


Correct

Gotcha. Makes a lot more sense now.

Someone mentioned how the PL levels on the P45 were 1 number higher for the same value on P35/X38/X48. So, PL=7 on X38 is the same as PL=8 on P45. That being said, I was able to hit PL=6 at similar RAM speeds on my P35 P5K-Premium, and have to use PL=8 on my MIIF. Didn't need pull-ins to do it, but the 90nm chipset boards definitely had an advantage w/ bandwidth.

[edo]

guys i need to change dissipation system on my M2F..ni got really nice results but NB temp are too high..i could even go on in OC if i reduce my temps..

what aftermarket cooler could i use for SB and NB ?

noctua NC U6 fit into NB without hurts ram slots ? no problem for Sb i think, even blue ice cooler is sufficient for SB.

i have even seen extreme sprit 2 by thermaltake that is smaller but i don't know if it's able to dissipate well.. i want to replace all pipes on my board ..i'm 55 °C on NB in idle :down:

[Grnfinger]

guys i need to change dissipation system on my M2F..ni got really nice results but NB temp are too high..i could even go on in OC if i reduce my temps..

what aftermarket cooler could i use for SB and NB ?

noctua NC U6 fit into NB without hurts ram slots ? no problem for Sb i think, even blue ice cooler is sufficient for SB.

i have even seen extreme sprit 2 by thermaltake that is smaller but i don't know if it's able to dissipate well.. i want to replace all pipes on my board ..i'm 55 °C on NB in idle :down:

Exteme spirit works well and is a cost effective soloution alittle noisey tho if you dont run it on a fan controller.
Vantec icberq copper cooler works very well with slight mod to mounting holes and looks nice
Cannot comment on the noctua, but I do recall someone posting that it works but not sure if it was this board or not..

[529th]

I think you'll need DI or LN2 for that speed, and it wouldn't be 24/7 in any case. All these high FSB speeds you're seeing are not 24/7 stable. I haven't done a lot of duallie super-high FSB 24/7 testing, but I'd say 533 would be getting near the limit for 24/7 stability. Maybe 550-575 if you're lucky. But then you can't run anything but a 1:1 divider, and have to settle for a looser PL.

9x500 w/ 5:6 divider and PL=8 Stronger is a good goal to reach for.

So, I've been running stability tests on my MIIF, Q9650, & DDR2 1000 - I was having trouble completing SuperPI and HyperPI but it was stable for 12hrs blend on Prime95 @ 480fsb ... I thought it was ok. I recently tried IBT & it failed. I reset my bios and all settings go default and it still fails IBT I am currently running HCI memtest to recheck ram. I was running 1.43v on the core to run the 480fsb (8.5multi) - could the CPU be failing or the mobo?

EDIT: How about an E8600 for this board? I've decided to run my other quad with my UD3R board. What fsb could I expect with an E8600 in a 24/7 scenario? Also heard there is an E8700 coming out, any idea when or is it bs?

[Grnfinger]

So, I've been running stability tests on my MIIF, Q9650, & DDR2 1000 - I was having trouble completing SuperPI and HyperPI but it was stable for 12hrs blend on Prime95 @ 480fsb ... I thought it was ok. I recently tried IBT & it failed. I reset my bios and all settings go default and it still fails IBT I am currently running HCI memtest to recheck ram. I was running 1.43v on the core to run the 480fsb (8.5multi) - could the CPU be failing or the mobo?

EDIT: How about an E8600 for this board? I've decided to run my other quad with my UD3R board. What fsb could I expect with an E8600 in a 24/7 scenario? Also heard there is an E8700 coming out, any idea when or is it bs?

8700 is due out soon I think..

To switch from a quad to a dualie I think you will regret it.
I have a 8400 on my second MIIF and its a dog compared to the 4.2GHz Q9650.

480fsb is very doable on this board, It took me 20 mins maybe to dial in my 4.2GHz settings, all my chips will do 500FSB on this board.
I would recheck your settings

This is my 4200MHz setup

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/IBT_4200_10loop.jpg

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 467
CPU Clock Skew : Advanced 100ps
North Bridge Clock Skew : Advanced 100ps
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1121
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Normal
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 103

CPU Voltage : 1.325
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.59275
FSBT : 1.37825
DRAM Voltage : 1.9
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45775
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.55300
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.20600

CPU GTL Reference 0 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : -45mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : -45mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[529th]

That all seems to be working except for my memory sub timings are on auto and I have to use PL 10 with the DDR2 1000 I am running 1:1 btw

I am testing currently using Prime95 blend, then I'm going to test with IBT - I've never seen what you have for results with your IBT screenie, what did you do? btw, my system will not pass the "max stress" test under IBT

EDIT: ah poop, failed both Prime blend & OCCT - upping vcore to 1.38 vtt to 1.37

[dctokyo]

8700 is due out soon I think..


Eh, the E8600 will not be the highest clocking Wolfdale ever binned? :eek:

heard the E8600 was the last

[WaterFlex]

Thats mine :

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/327/e8400h.th.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=e8400h.jpg)

[529th]

Eh, the E8600 will not be the highest clocking Wolfdale ever binned? :eek:

heard the E8600 was the last

When they read this Intel sees $$$

So hence the 8700

[KURTZ]

8700? i know that Fugger has told that isn't confirmed ...

[WaterFlex]

8700, wow! Didn`t know !

[Eeky NoX]

Is that a joke ? So take a look at this mates :D

http://www.hwbot.org/quickSearch.do?hardwareId=CPU_1818&name=Core+2+E8700+(3.50Ghz)+(0)

This page is mine :rofl:

[edo]

Exteme spirit works well and is a cost effective soloution alittle noisey tho if you dont run it on a fan controller.
Vantec icberq copper cooler works very well with slight mod to mounting holes and looks nice
Cannot comment on the noctua, but I do recall someone posting that it works but not sure if it was this board or not..

thank you for reply, i probably go for extreme spitir so it's compatible without mods..i think oi can set 60% of speed from bios if it will be noisy, it's active dissipation so it's sufficent :) i'll post the mod as soon as i do :) the shop near home sells extreme spirit so it's easyer than ever :D

[Grnfinger]

Eh, the E8600 will not be the highest clocking Wolfdale ever binned? :eek:

heard the E8600 was the last

Shops in Europe are taking orders for E8700 now.
As far as I know there going to be released as Intel has not stated when 775 will be EOL
i7 is still in its infancy and i5 has not seen retail yet, so I cant see Intel dropping 775 yet.



That all seems to be working except for my memory sub timings are on auto and I have to use PL 10 with the DDR2 1000 I am running 1:1 btw

I am testing currently using Prime95 blend, then I'm going to test with IBT - I've never seen what you have for results with your IBT screenie, what did you do? btw, my system will not pass the "max stress" test under IBT

EDIT: ah poop, failed both Prime blend & OCCT - upping vcore to 1.38 vtt to 1.37

select no to "turn on error dection" and you will get the same output

What test are you failing in Prime?


thank you for reply, i probably go for extreme spitir so it's compatible without mods..i think oi can set 60% of speed from bios if it will be noisy, it's active dissipation so it's sufficent :) i'll post the mod as soon as i do :) the shop near home sells extreme spirit so it's easyer than ever :D

Please post back with your results

[humeyboy]

Eh, the E8600 will not be the highest clocking Wolfdale ever binned? :eek:

heard the E8600 was the last

That's old news m8.

The I7 is not selling as well as they would like and I5 is belated and the World Wide Recession does not help.

Even before this they said I7 would not be mainstream even for high end segment till late 2009/early 2010.

There is a E8700 due and their is a few new socket 775 Mobos with DDR2 1333mhz support out/due out soon.

I also say there will be a new 45nm Quad out faster than the Q6950 but that's IMO.

I did foresee the new "S Model" 65watt 45nm Quads.

[529th]

Thanks Grnfinger.

Core #0 failed, i've heard that's a sign of needing more vcore - did 3hrs of OCCT @ 1.38v~1.39v

[Grnfinger]

Well I have decided to go back on my word, and buy yet another Asus product.
I have a kit of Corsair Dominators Vers 1.1 Micron D9GMH (B6-3) Handpicked and wont do 1200MHz on the MIIF but will do 1225MHz on the Maximus X38, so I finally have had enough of "what if I had bought a Rampage" and bought one.

[WaterFlex]

Guys, who knows, where motherboard sensor is placed on ASUS mobos?

[Eeky NoX]

Check wit an hair dryer over the mobo WaterFlex ;)

Bout yur tests on the ram Cryptik : I gat a Spi8M @666 but nothing else with 2,6v :( ...@600 the Crucials are rockstable with 2,3v)

@Leeghoofd : Still waiting for my mobo, that's why you can see "???" in the signature ^^
If you're Belgian : do you speek french m8 ? ( I can't subscribe on I4) so we could meet here on XS but maybe on Syndrome-O/C in a review which is commin soon ???

[529th]

Well I have decided to go back on my word, and buy yet another Asus product.
I have a kit of Corsair Dominators Vers 1.1 Micron D9GMH (B6-3) Handpicked and wont do 1200MHz on the MIIF but will do 1225MHz on the Maximus X38, so I finally have had enough of "what if I had bought a Rampage" and bought one.

Good for you man!

[SiGfever]

Well I have decided to go back on my word, and buy yet another Asus product.
I have a kit of Corsair Dominators Vers 1.1 Micron D9GMH (B6-3) Handpicked and wont do 1200MHz on the MIIF but will do 1225MHz on the Maximus X38, so I finally have had enough of "what if I had bought a Rampage" and bought one.

I am anxious to see the results. I wish that when I was choosing between the two I had gone with the Rampage.

[GFORCE100]

Well I have decided to go back on my word, and buy yet another Asus product.
I have a kit of Corsair Dominators Vers 1.1 Micron D9GMH (B6-3) Handpicked and wont do 1200MHz on the MIIF but will do 1225MHz on the Maximus X38, so I finally have had enough of "what if I had bought a Rampage" and bought one.

I've noted you stating the same a few times about how the MIIF and your RAM don't want to play ball and I'm baffled since as you know from my sig (which has been present for a year now or so), the MIIF is just fine with Micron RAM at 1200MHz effective. Also bare in mind I'm running 4 sticks of it.

I've done 50x of Linx (IBT) on it with all the RAM options checked and it's fine. It's passed MS memory check for ages (over 50 passes) and that also proved it was OK. All this at 2.15V and the timings in my sig - all other RAM options are on auto or disabled except for performance level, transaction booster etc.

The MIIF is definitely sensitive to the RAM BIOS settings, it's very easy to break stability. In fact the BIOS is buggy since if it wasn't for the cold boot problem (black screen), I could run my RAM at 5-4-5-18-30 at 1200MHz which gets the latency down to about 50.5ns in Everest.

[GFORCE100]

Hmmm

Is it just me or has the recent XS Forums downtime caused a loss of some of this thread? Before it got taken down "for testing apparently" two days ago I remember evo posting about how he modded the MIIF 1901 BIOS and inserted the SLI string into it - these posts now seem gone entirely and the latest posts (other than my last one) date back to March 25th.

Either my eyes are playing up or something is going wrong here. Anyone else notice the step back in time?

[humeyboy]

Yip the forum has been down more than a hookers pants in recent weeks and posts are gone due to this (not sure if perm).

I have same Mobo and Ram as you 2 and I cannot even save and exit bios at 1200mhz or about above 1175mhz.

No amount of voltage or settings change it.

Hope the newer Rev A3 is better but the lesser models now have Turbo models with DDR21333 support. :mad:

[KURTZ]

how about the SLI modded bios?

[e.v.o]

just wait guys.. i will bring you a new bios with all those goodies included in the newer boards. things i'm planning to change:
update all roms to their newest version
patch the memory table (ddr2-1300 support)
get sli working
maybe qfan plus (very nice.. it controls the opt_fan through opt_temp! great improvement! )

also i'm planning to patch the audio drivers to a newer version and get the turboV software from the rampage II/p5q turbo running on our MIIF

[KURTZ]

just wait guys.. i will bring you a new bios with all those goodies included in the newer boards. things i'm planning to change:
update all roms to their newest version
patch the memory table (ddr2-1300 support)
get sli working
maybe qfan plus (very nice.. it controls the opt_fan through opt_temp! great improvement! )

also i'm planning to patch the audio drivers to a newer version and get the turboV software from the rampage II/p5q turbo running on our MIIF

wow EVO you rock mate ... keep in touch! :up:

[Grnfinger]

I've noted you stating the same a few times about how the MIIF and your RAM don't want to play ball and I'm baffled since as you know from my sig (which has been present for a year now or so), the MIIF is just fine with Micron RAM at 1200MHz effective. Also bare in mind I'm running 4 sticks of it.

I've done 50x of Linx (IBT) on it with all the RAM options checked and it's fine. It's passed MS memory check for ages (over 50 passes) and that also proved it was OK. All this at 2.15V and the timings in my sig - all other RAM options are on auto or disabled except for performance level, transaction booster etc.

The MIIF is definitely sensitive to the RAM BIOS settings, it's very easy to break stability. In fact the BIOS is buggy since if it wasn't for the cold boot problem (black screen), I could run my RAM at 5-4-5-18-30 at 1200MHz which gets the latency down to about 50.5ns in Everest.

I have 2 MIIF boards, highest I can clock my Micron D9GMH sticks is around 1175MHz or so, regardless of timing or strap I cannot post above that.
Hoped this board would be a great performer, but sadly its not.

Just waiting on my mosfet block for the Rampage board, when they arrive I will do a head to head, clock for clock, quad and dualie comparison.
But I already know who the winner will be:D


just wait guys.. i will bring you a new bios with all those goodies included in the newer boards. things i'm planning to change:
update all roms to their newest version
patch the memory table (ddr2-1300 support)
get sli working
maybe qfan plus (very nice.. it controls the opt_fan through opt_temp! great improvement! )

also i'm planning to patch the audio drivers to a newer version and get the turboV software from the rampage II/p5q turbo running on our MIIF

It's like polishing a turd, no matter what you do to it, its still a pos

[humeyboy]

At least the guy is trying. :rolleyes:

This is the MFII thread not any other Mobo and I'm kind of glad all the posts are lost that were totally of topic and pic's of Rampage Mobos. :cool:

[GFORCE100]

I have 2 MIIF boards, highest I can clock my Micron D9GMH sticks is around 1175MHz or so, regardless of timing or strap I cannot post above that.
Hoped this board would be a great performer, but sadly its not.


Even if you try the below settings?

CPU Ratio - 9
FSB Freq - 450

Effective CPU clock speed = 4.05GHz.

RAM/MCH related settings (RAM timings as 5-5-5-18):

AI Overclock Tuner - Manual
FSB Strap to NB - Auto
DRAM Freq - 1199MHz
DRAM CLK Skew A1 - -50ns
DRAM CLK Skew A2 - -50ns
DRAM CLK Skew B1 - -50ns
DRAM CLK Skew B2 - -50ns
DRAM Timing Control - Manual
Performance Level - 7
DRAM Static Read Control - Disabled
DRAM Read Training - Disabled
MEM OC Charger - Enabled
Ai Clock Twister - Strong
NB Voltage - 1.35175
CPU Clock Skew - 200ns
NB Clock Skew - 100ns

[humeyboy]

I will print out your settings above and try them later but ideally I want 1200mhz Ram for 600FSB 1:1.

[Grnfinger]

Even if you try the below settings?

CPU Ratio - 9
FSB Freq - 450

Effective CPU clock speed = 4.05GHz.

RAM/MCH related settings (RAM timings as 5-5-5-18):

AI Overclock Tuner - Manual
FSB Strap to NB - Auto
DRAM Freq - 1199MHz
DRAM CLK Skew A1 - -50ns
DRAM CLK Skew A2 - -50ns
DRAM CLK Skew B1 - -50ns
DRAM CLK Skew B2 - -50ns
DRAM Timing Control - Manual
Performance Level - 7
DRAM Static Read Control - Disabled
DRAM Read Training - Disabled
MEM OC Charger - Enabled
Ai Clock Twister - Strong
NB Voltage - 1.35175
CPU Clock Skew - 200ns
NB Clock Skew - 100ns

I will try them and report back shortly

[529th]

I'd like to post for sale my MIIF board here. Asking 180$ where is the FS section!?!?!

Thanks,

529th

[screwtech02]

I'd like to post for sale my MIIF board here. Asking 180$ where is the FS section!?!?!

Thanks,

529th

You dont have enough posts to view/post sale.....:rolleyes:

[Grnfinger]

I'd like to post for sale my MIIF board here. Asking 180$ where is the FS section!?!?!

Thanks,

529th

pm fordf250, he was looking for 1 last week.

[529th]

You dont have enough posts to view/post sale.....:rolleyes:

I have over some 3000 posts on Anandtech

[screwtech02]

Yeah, but that doesnt matter to "managment" here man....

[Kayso]

Here some shots with my new Q9650 :)

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2093/9475.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/my.php?image=9475.jpg)

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2925/linkpak.th.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=linkpak.jpg)

He is a good overclocker :) I will go for 9*500 these days, but don't have time to play right now.

Again all settings on Auto, I changed only vcore and everything goes just fine.

I'm working now to make 9*490 stable. This FSB want's a little tweaking :)

[e.v.o]

It's a hell of a shame what ASUS is doing with the MIIF BIOS:
- no backport of those nice functions found in MIIG BIOS like QFan Plus, new BIOS Options, 8 OC Profiles, aso.
- eSATA at the Marvell Chip is not working but ASUS does advertise this option in their manual
- Pull-Ins are not working and many other things
- crappy old PCI ROMs

I really hate them now! They :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing sell the most expensive P45 board on the market and don't give a damn about it!
You simply just have to look at their FTP and how messy it is their: 10 same software packs with the version in it and 10 different names. WTF? Don't you have standards at your crappy offices?

If anyone from ASUS reads this: Go, get yourself some process management steps and someone who watches the development! And :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing get us a new and working BIOS with all those nice things.. it is a big :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing shame that ASUS isn't able to do such simply things that companys like ASRock, MSI, Gigabyte, aso. can do! Your the biggest :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing producer for retail boards and simply just don't give a god damn :banana::banana::banana::banana: about your customers!

The working methods and handling of the customers has to be a topic on all big hardware pages all around the internet to pressure ASUS .. but i think that no big page will do such a thing, cause ASUS needs them and they need ASUS.

[IcemaN22]

Hi guys, I got a problem with the board.
Everything is stable the first hours after I turned it on, can play games 5 hours without problems etc.. all stability tests are OK. But after some hours the picture is freezing, and I never get BSOD.
The music is playing in background and nothing works, have to restart the whole PC. This happens in games and in windows, for example while surfing on the net with music in background.
Have tried to increase CPU voltage but it doesn't help, please what can be the problem here?

[Evil_AnAnAs]

To me it sounds like a problem with windows. Everything updated and so on?

[e.v.o]

ATK Driver installed?
Search for it from asus .. this solved the problem for me :)

[humeyboy]

ESATA works without issue on this Mobo.

[GFORCE100]

ESATA works without issue on this Mobo.

The only thing that really gets to me about this board is that the pull-ins don't work. I know from experience from the X38 that if you couldn't run a lower performance level (say 6 instead of 7) then you could still get the same performance result by enabling the pull-ins which do increase memory performance each and every time - guaranteed.

Everything else I can digest without getting overly irritated :)

If this was a cheap board I would say "oh well" but when you pay top dollar you expect an upper class product with attention to detail.

Bottom line, nice board, average BIOS and I bet you it's the better BIOS in the Gigabyte UDP3 that sets the difference in overclocking. It's like designing a wonderful car to drive but without the right engine, perfect handling yet underpowered.

The difference between cars and motherboards is that if say Honda put the same engine from their Accord model (2.0/2.4 VTEC 150-200BHP) in their Legend model, it would most surely get outspoken by car editors the world over so much so that Honda would have to fix it instantly. In fact all they would have to do is state the same sentence over and over (i.e. the naturally aspirated 2.0/2.4 Honda VTEC engine is very keen on high revs thus develops at best average pull (torque) at low revs making it a somewhat dull drive for such a heavy car, as is the Legend). Do you see anyone wiping the floor in similar light with Asus's lack of pull-ins? Nah, I think not.

[screwtech02]

ASUS just has a lack of decent bios support period, its not just with this chipset either.... Not like they give a frak anyways.....

[IcemaN22]

ATK Driver installed?
Search for it from asus .. this solved the problem for me :)

I didn't find any atk driver, but I found PC probe that says it's the same?
I installed it at least, but what will this help, it only are monitoring temperatures and fan speed? Yes I have the latest drivers.

[529th]

Here some shots with my new Q9650 :)

He is a good overclocker :) I will go for 9*500 these days, but don't have time to play right now.

I'm working now to make 9*490 stable. This FSB want's a little tweaking :)

lol, good luck making it stable

my UD3R is running 500*8 all day long on my Q9650

Also did a 8.5*500 9hr Prime95 but on blend...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88/529th/UD3R.jpg

[Grnfinger]

It's a hell of a shame what ASUS is doing with the MIIF BIOS:
- no backport of those nice functions found in MIIG BIOS like QFan Plus, new BIOS Options, 8 OC Profiles, aso.
- eSATA at the Marvell Chip is not working but ASUS does advertise this option in their manual
- Pull-Ins are not working and many other things
- crappy old PCI ROMs

I really hate them now! They :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing sell the most expensive P45 board on the market and don't give a damn about it!
You simply just have to look at their FTP and how messy it is their: 10 same software packs with the version in it and 10 different names. WTF? Don't you have standards at your crappy offices?

If anyone from ASUS reads this: Go, get yourself some process management steps and someone who watches the development! And :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing get us a new and working BIOS with all those nice things.. it is a big :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing shame that ASUS isn't able to do such simply things that companys like ASRock, MSI, Gigabyte, aso. can do! Your the biggest :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing producer for retail boards and simply just don't give a god damn :banana::banana::banana::banana: about your customers!

The working methods and handling of the customers has to be a topic on all big hardware pages all around the internet to pressure ASUS .. but i think that no big page will do such a thing, cause ASUS needs them and they need ASUS.

I share your frustrations, I bought this board looking to run a nice high FSB for 24/7 setup, sadly this is never going to happen with this board.
Time for banging the head against a wall is passed, I'm moving to i7 once I do my Rampage comparison, EVGA will be my motherboard of choice from now on, they actually care and LISTEN to there customers.
If Asus continues this trend tey will lose the enthusiast market, a small market but a valuable one. I for one am tierd of marketing Asus products they can go :banana::banana::banana::banana: themselves.



I didn't find any atk driver, but I found PC probe that says it's the same?
I installed it at least, but what will this help, it only are monitoring temperatures and fan speed? Yes I have the latest drivers.

set pcie frequency to 101 or 102, bump NB and SB volts a notch or 2, it should settle it down

[humeyboy]

Even if you try the below settings?

CPU Ratio - 9
FSB Freq - 450

Effective CPU clock speed = 4.05GHz.

RAM/MCH related settings (RAM timings as 5-5-5-18):

AI Overclock Tuner - Manual
FSB Strap to NB - Auto
DRAM Freq - 1199MHz
DRAM CLK Skew A1 - -50ns
DRAM CLK Skew A2 - -50ns
DRAM CLK Skew B1 - -50ns
DRAM CLK Skew B2 - -50ns
DRAM Timing Control - Manual
Performance Level - 7
DRAM Static Read Control - Disabled
DRAM Read Training - Disabled
MEM OC Charger - Enabled
Ai Clock Twister - Strong
NB Voltage - 1.35175
CPU Clock Skew - 200ns
NB Clock Skew - 100ns

As promised I tried your settings and I knew before I even tried it would be a total waste of time for me (thanks for info though).

It cant even Post the Bios no matter how much voltage add.

There is no way getting to 1175mhz needs next to no fancy adjustments then above that it needs major adjustments.

Asus simply have made a boob of the Bios and support for certain Memory IMO.

[GFORCE100]

As promised I tried your settings and I knew before I even tried it would be a total waste of time for me (thanks for info though).

It cant even Post the Bios no matter how much voltage add.

There is no way getting to 1175mhz needs next to no fancy adjustments then above that it needs major adjustments.

Asus simply have made a boob of the Bios and support for certain Memory IMO.

Well this proves any of the below:
1) Not all MIIF boards are equal
2) Your RAM simply does not want to play ball (compatibility issue).

It's a pity you don't have access to the Kingston I use as that would prove whether it's your RAM or board. I tend to side with 2 above.

[Grnfinger]

Well this proves any of the below:
1) Not all MIIF boards are equal
2) Your RAM simply does not want to play ball (compatibility issue).

It's a pity you don't have access to the Kingston I use as that would prove whether it's your RAM or board. I tend to side with 2 above.

Well unless his Dominators are vers 1.1 and he pulled 2 stick, 1200MHz will never happen.
Been very busy last few days, will try out your settings today when I get home from work. I know my ram does 1200+MHz so it will be interesting.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/TEST4_505.png

[GFORCE100]

I've just been into my BIOS and noticed the above BIOS settings I provided to be slightly erroneous.

Here's them again with the slight fix included:

CPU Ratio - 9
FSB Freq - 450

Effective CPU clock speed = 4.05GHz.

RAM/MCH related settings (RAM timings as 5-5-5-18):

AI Overclock Tuner - Manual
FSB Strap to NB - Auto
DRAM Freq - 1199MHz
DRAM CLK Skew A1 - Delay 50ns
DRAM CLK Skew A2 - Delay 50ns
DRAM CLK Skew B1 - Delay 50ns
DRAM CLK Skew B2 - Delay 50ns
DRAM Timing Control - Manual
Performance Level - 7
DRAM Static Read Control - Disabled
DRAM Read Training - Disabled
MEM OC Charger - Enabled
Ai Clock Twister - Strong
NB Voltage - 1.35175V
CPU Clock Skew - 100ns
NB Clock Skew - 100ns

[humeyboy]

Dominator's are Rev 1.1 as stated many times in last few posts here.

Cannot even boot with 1 stick at over 1175mhz.

Can boot with no fancy settings with all 4 sticks (8GB) at 1175mhz and Prime/Memtest all day long.

My Mobo can also do 500FSB (2000QP) on 1.2v NB with 8GB 1:1, so Mobo ain't weak.

[GFORCE100]

My Mobo can also do 500FSB (2000QP) on 1.2v NB with 8GB 1:1, so Mobo ain't weak.

At what PL is this? 8, 9, 10? If you can do PL=8 at 500FSB at only 1.2VNB with that 8GB all running at 1175MHz then that proves your MCH is of a good yield (certainly above average).

[humeyboy]

I left all settings slack for 1175mhz as I was trying to see what was causing the Brick Wall I hit.

I either run PC at 1600QP or 2000QP do not see any point in odd numbers and as I ain't gamed in months I'm currently at 4GHZ 1600QP for now (all voltages as LOW as they go in bios), obv CPU is not lowest it can go its 1.064V on Load with LCC (tad higher than on my NF680I).

Both above settings are 1:1 so PL is 10 (I'm 99% sure that's what peeps claim is the Lowest it can go for 1:1 going by this thread, correct this if its wrong).

I know my Mobo seems above AVG going by how little voltage it need in each setting for 1600QP and 2000QP going by others on same hardware here.

Weird as Asus claim 1200mhz support, lets hope we see a Turbo version with 1333mhz support like the 2 lower Mobos now have.

[TouGe]

It's a hell of a shame what ASUS is doing with the MIIF BIOS:
- no backport of those nice functions found in MIIG BIOS like QFan Plus, new BIOS Options, 8 OC Profiles, aso.
- eSATA at the Marvell Chip is not working but ASUS does advertise this option in their manual
- Pull-Ins are not working and many other things
- crappy old PCI ROMs


So is this why I kept losing my connection to my external hard drive? If I do not access my external drive frequently enough I can no longer access it from "My Computer" even though it is still listed on the menu. I have to reboot my computer in order to gain access to the drive again. Also, I get a lot of pauses while watching movies from my external drive. I ended up just running an extension through the back panel and pluging it into one of the MB SATA connectors. Now I have no more issues. Interesting......

On a side note, I did decide to pick up a set of G Skill 2x2GB PC2-8800 RAM. I'm hoping these will net me a little more speed then I am currently getting with my current 4x1GB sticks w/o excess NB/DIMM voltage. Anything over 1080MHz just isn't stable with my current set. I really wanted the PC-2 9600 but the price......ouch!

[e.v.o]

Yeah, this is a problem that ALL P5Q and MIIF motherboards have.
Also ASUS is putting real low end chips on their boards and selling this big time:
most realtek onboard devices are way much better then this :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty pseudo X-FI AD2000b chip from soundmax, which simply is crap all the way. also realtek provides driver updates .. our soundmax driver is still version 1.0 and dates back to 02/2008. take off the cover from that "soundcard" and you won't find any big capacitors...

and yeah, Grnfinger is right. i'm simply just frustated that ASUS doesn't care about their customers...
all i can say is that some big "news" sites should make this one a topic on their pages and kick ASUS in the nuts..

[TouGe]

+1 on the nut kicking.

I too am growing really tired of Asus. I keep telling myself this is my last Asus board but then I find myself giving them one more chance lol. I think I'm just going to sit on this MB until the 32nm parts come out and then run as fast as I can to either Gigabyte or DFI. I'm tired of spending money on the 775 family. I can't even count on both hands how many motherboards I have gone through since Conroe was released and I don't even want to think about how many of those were ASUS boards.

[MikeRoz]

I have one of these boards, and I have a question.

Why is the CPU temperature frozen at a particular value when I cool the CPU to below 0 C?

[GFORCE100]

E.V.O.

Just a thought, is there no way to extract the ROM containing the code that controls the pull-ins from say a X38/X48 or different P45 BIOS and insert it into the MIIF 1901 BIOS?

I bet the X38/X48/P45 are almost identical when it comes to the pull-ins which would mean the code should work when pulled from one BIOS to the next (X38/X48 ---> P45). Since the MIIF has a dual-bios design it would even be non-risky to try it out.

The other option would be to convince some Asus engineer so he/she can earn a little on the side should they choose to fix the MIIF BIOS in their spare time - especially as they have access to all the tools and resources at Asus making it a lot easier for them than going the reverse-engineering route as depicted above. He/she would actually be doing Asus a favour even if he/she was found out at Asus so it's not as if he would be risking his job - and consequently it's not out of the blue to think such an approach to getting the MIIF BIOS fixed is out of the question.

[529th]

multiple kicks in the nuts and cooch while they hand me all my money back from over the years of buying exclusively ass-sus mo-boards

this has been a learning lesson for me, thanks

[Grnfinger]

multiple kicks in the nuts and cooch while they hand me all my money back from over the years of buying exclusively ass-sus mo-boards

this has been a learning lesson for me, thanks

:rofl::rofl:

I think I need to photoshop me a new avatar, thats priceless

[Grnfinger]

I've just been into my BIOS and noticed the above BIOS settings I provided to be slightly erroneous.

Here's them again with the slight fix included:

CPU Ratio - 9
FSB Freq - 450

Effective CPU clock speed = 4.05GHz.

RAM/MCH related settings (RAM timings as 5-5-5-18):

AI Overclock Tuner - Manual
FSB Strap to NB - Auto
DRAM Freq - 1199MHz
DRAM CLK Skew A1 - Delay 50ns
DRAM CLK Skew A2 - Delay 50ns
DRAM CLK Skew B1 - Delay 50ns
DRAM CLK Skew B2 - Delay 50ns
DRAM Timing Control - Manual
Performance Level - 7
DRAM Static Read Control - Disabled
DRAM Read Training - Disabled
MEM OC Charger - Enabled
Ai Clock Twister - Strong
NB Voltage - 1.35175V
CPU Clock Skew - 100ns
NB Clock Skew - 100ns


After checking my settings with yours the only difference is FSB Strap, I dial mine in a 333 and you use auto....I thank you for the information :up: I might have another go with this board b4 I shelf it as my backup


http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/1200ram.png

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/1210ram.png

[529th]

multiple kicks in the nuts and cooch while they hand me all my money back from over the years of buying exclusively ass-sus mo-boards

this has been a learning lesson for me, thanks


:rofl::rofl:

I think I need to photoshop me a new avatar, thats priceless

heheheh

[Etihtsarom]

I recently had a tech support call to them when my board stopped posting, a god awful experience. I simply told them exactly how :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty their support and unwillingness to help was. It's not hard to force them to take their board back, provided you have a local retailer that sells the board. But more importantly, if they act like they don't need me, then I'll just prove them right.

[GFORCE100]

After checking my settings with yours the only difference is FSB Strap, I dial mine in a 333 and you use auto....I thank you for the information :up: I might have another go with this board b4 I shelf it as my backup


Set your tRFC setting to 30 clocks instead of auto or 42-55 clocks as you probably have now and you'll get your latency down another 0.3ns to 51.2ns like mine since at the moment you're a little higher at 51.5ns. My memory doesn't need more voltage to do this so your's shouldn't too (given it's the name Micron chips under the heat spreader no doubt).

[Grnfinger]

Set your tRFC setting to 30 clocks instead of auto or 42-55 clocks as you probably how now and you'll get your latency down another 0.3ns to 51.2ns like mine since at the moment you're a little higher at 51.5ns. My memory doesn't need more voltage to do this so yours shouldn't too (given it's the name Micron chips under the heat spreader no doubt).

Will play around tonight after work, never thought I would get the ram over 1200

[karamell]

Hi guru's of the e8400 C2D OC ....

Can't figure out why it wont boot anymore. This settings worked for me like 2 days, and now it's just DET DRAM :mad:
It's working on 3.6Ghz (24/7), but i want to reach min 4Ghz or more....


Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : 7.5
FSB Frequency : 533
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333mhz
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Auto
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto

DRAM Timing Control: Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [11] Tried with 10, DET DRAM....

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : Auto
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
FSB Term : Auto
DRAM Voltage : 2.2
North Bridge Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : Auto
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : Auto

Load Line Calibration : Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[Kayso]

Hi guru's of the e8400 C2D OC ....
Can't figure out why it wont boot anymore. This settings worked for me like 2 days, and now it's just DET DRAM :mad:
It's working on 3.6Ghz (24/7), but i want to reach min 4Ghz or more....


What I see is, that all you voltages are on AUTO :confused:
You will never overclock your PC with voltages on auto.

Try this one:

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 533
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333MHz
DRAM Frequency: 1066

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: Enabled
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 101

CPU Voltage: I don't know what vcore will need your CPU, but try with 1.4 as a start, if that doesn't work, bump three steps up
CPU PLL Voltage:1.55
FSB Termination Voltage:1.325
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
North Bridge Voltage:1.4
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.55
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.15

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[Grnfinger]

460FSB PL7 nothing tweaked

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/1227ram.png

[Grnfinger]

465FSB PL7 :D

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/1240ram_2.png

[screwtech02]

Nice Grn!!!

[GFORCE100]

465FSB PL7 :D


Grnfinger, when you finish playing around with my BIOS settings let us know if you made any changes or found out anything better.

So what's the verdict? First agnostic about the MFII supporting 1200+ DDR2 and now an avid advocate I see...happy too!! :)

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger, when you finish playing around with my BIOS settings let us know if you made any changes or found out anything better.

So what's the verdict? First agnostic about the MFII supporting 1200+ DDR2 and now an avid advocate I see...happy too!! :)

idk, after playing with your settings it has opend this board up alot more, Im actually having fun instead of banging my head.
I'm still going to do a head to head against the Rampage ( still waiting on mosfet blocks) b4 I decide, but I suddenly have a new respect for this board:yepp:

Wife is :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:ing about the yard needs raking, so I have to get that done then I'll be back to try and squeeze 1250MHz out of these sticks, once I see how far I can push the ram I will try to find a max stable setting.


Some Corsair goodness

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/IMG00015-20090425-1029.jpg

[Etihtsarom]

Sorry but I've not really followed your problems with this board Grnfinger. Your sig indicates the board seems to do well for you aside from hitting 600FSB? On this note, what is the BIOS version that allows you to change the RAM ratio? I want to move out of the 1:1 to take advantage of my RAM's speed since it is only running at 1040 or so. Im on 1307 BIOS.

[Grnfinger]

Sorry but I've not really followed your problems with this board Grnfinger. Your sig indicates the board seems to do well for you aside from hitting 600FSB? On this note, what is the BIOS version that allows you to change the RAM ratio? I want to move out of the 1:1 to take advantage of my RAM's speed since it is only running at 1040 or so. Im on 1307 BIOS.

I use bios 1901, to change any ram dividers/MHz you want to select these 2 options

FSB Strap to North Bridge :
DRAM Frequency:

I havent had any real problems, just I was dissapointed with this board ALOT..
GFORCE100 was kind enough to offer some advice on breaking 1200MHz with my ram something I could do on other boards but not this one..after following his advice I have broke 1200MHz and have a little more respect for the board than I previously had..

[karamell]

What I see is, that all you voltages are on AUTO :confused:
You will never overclock your PC with voltages on auto.

Try this one:

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 533
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333MHz
DRAM Frequency: 1066

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: Enabled
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 101

CPU Voltage: I don't know what vcore will need your CPU, but try with 1.4 as a start, if that doesn't work, bump three steps up
CPU PLL Voltage:1.55
FSB Termination Voltage:1.325
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
North Bridge Voltage:1.4
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.55
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.15

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled


Tried to play with these settings with NO success. Can't go further then 3.6Ghz at 9x400 :mad:

[Grnfinger]

Tried to play with these settings with NO success. Can't go further then 3.6Ghz at 9x400 :mad:

Post your current stable setup, E8400 should do 4.0GHz easy
We can make suggestion from there, I have the chip I can run a few setups for you if you like...

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger, when you finish playing around with my BIOS settings let us know if you made any changes or found out anything better.
So what's the verdict? First agnostic about the MFII supporting 1200+ DDR2 and now an avid advocate I see...happy too!! :)

After playing and tweaking I have found my ram tops out at 1240MHz, I suppose if I cranked the volts I could get a few more drops...
5-5-5-15 offers little gains in terms of bandwidth or latancy, and using 5-5-5-18 got me a few more MHz
PL7 works all the way up to 470FSB, could not test higher cause my ram couldnt do it..AI Clock Twister set to stronger required 1.50 vNB for it to boot in to vista way too much volts for 24/7...strong required 1.40 @ 465FSB.450FSB your settings of 1.35vNB were more than enough.
Would have been nice to have had Phase Pullin's working to reduce Latancy and improve bandwidth but this is not meant to be on this board...
I thank you again GFORCE100 :toast: for sharing your settings, this will make the rampage comparison alot more interesting

1240MHz was the max on this board, I booted 1250 but it crashed 3 times when trying to start everest bench :shrug:...

[screwtech02]

Man, were did you get your mosfet blocks from, i thought you ordered em last week or so???

[Grnfinger]

I did, I got them from an XS member I think he sent them via pony express :rofl:

[karamell]

Post your current stable setup, E8400 should do 4.0GHz easy
We can make suggestion from there, I have the chip I can run a few setups for you if you like...

Here are my 24/7 3.6Ghz settings.


Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 400
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400MHz
DRAM Frequency: 800

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
1st Info: 5-5-5-16-3-42-6-3
2nd Info: 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
3rd Info: 14-5-1-5-5

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage: 1.375
CPU PLL Voltage:1.56
FSB Termination Voltage:1.35
DRAM Voltage: 1.9
North Bridge Voltage:1.39
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.5
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.1

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[Grnfinger]

500X8 1200MHz Ram PL8

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/500x8_1200ram.jpg

[Furiøùs]

I haven't bothered to mess with my rig anymore.

450x9 with 1088 on the ram 5-5-5-15.

NB atm idles at 50c, damn summer. waiting on an antec spotcool so I can put a fan on the NB. Damn GPU (GTX295) is hitting 90c in CoD WaW with fan speed manually at 80%..

Was not prepared for summer at all :p:

I gave up on 485fsb, I had it for a while.. my Vista got corrupted or something while I was under that OC, and when I used to boot in sometimes Vista would schedule manual disk-checks and find errors and delete and restore files..
It was a mess to say the least. Haven't bothered to try messing with it after that..

It's too hot now anyway, I'm at 1.31v on the NB, I needed 1.36v for 485fsb, so i'd hit over 60c on the NB while gaming.. It's already hitting 59c in GTA4.

:(:(

[screwtech02]

Grn, your makin me want to re-install my MIIF, why is it that you can get better bandwidth with the P45 over the X38/48... My Rampage is a good solid board, but it seems that my MIIF, performed better... Maybe its just me....

[Grnfinger]

I haven't bothered to mess with my rig anymore.

450x9 with 1088 on the ram 5-5-5-15.

NB atm idles at 50c, damn summer. waiting on an antec spotcool so I can put a fan on the NB. Damn GPU (GTX295) is hitting 90c in CoD WaW with fan speed manually at 80%..

Was not prepared for summer at all :p:

I gave up on 485fsb, I had it for a while.. my Vista got corrupted or something while I was under that OC, and when I used to boot in sometimes Vista would schedule manual disk-checks and find errors and delete and restore files..
It was a mess to say the least. Haven't bothered to try messing with it after that..




It's too hot now anyway, I'm at 1.31v on the NB, I needed 1.36v for 485fsb, so i'd hit over 60c on the NB while gaming.. It's already hitting 59c in GTA4.

:(:(

You should look at water cooling, My 4870X2 idles at a cool 35c load never sees above 50-55c. MY NB idles at 28-35 depending on volts and load is 45 tops, once I add the second rad I hope to reduce temps a few more degrees.
450x9 is a decnt clock, nothing to be upset over, but if heat is holding you back, I would look at the investment it is well worth it.


Grn, your makin me want to re-install my MIIF, why is it that you can get better bandwidth with the P45 over the X38/48... My Rampage is a good solid board, but it seems that my MIIF, performed better... Maybe its just me....

I know are chips are different but run a 450x8 1081, no pullins enabled...
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

And we can compare the bandwidth at a modest overclock...
In all honesty, last week I wouldnt piss on this board if were on fire, now suddenly I get a warm fuzzy feeling when I walk past him, maybe its the beer and morphine ( hurt my back last week and my Dr. is a pill pusher), idk but I'm liking the board once again

[GFORCE100]

Why are you guys overly sensitive about the NB temps? They're designed to cope with way more than 60C, that's a walk in the park on a summer day for a NB. If it was 100C then yes you should be concerned but it will never top that even now as summer approaches.

Somehow you don't seem to notice how hot your GPU's are running at idle let alone in GTA4 or other games. It's 50-60C at idle and 70-80C (sometimes more) under load.

C2D/C2Q's won't throttle unless they are run at 90C or more (their core temps) for a longer period of time (can't remember how many minutes it is). If you want overclocks at say around 4.2GHz then sure, you need water or very loud 3000rpm 120mm fans on a TRUE/IFX-14/12UP cooler. At anything lower you don't really need water unless you have a low VID C2Q which are renown to be hotter than their higher VID rivals as the resistors get hotter (higher resistance needed to set lower VID).

A human being would get a heart attack if put in a room at 60-70C, sure, but this is different, electronics spend most of their lives staying hot. There are PC's out there that date 20 years or more that have been turned on ever since new, and still work. Yup 386 DX's and early 486SX/DX's, and those didn't need a fan on the 4x4cm socket 2/3 heatsink either.

I say no need to be concerned with the temps, 60-70-80 is OK under load - sure lower is better but don't loose sleep over it. Instead enjoy GTA4 and your youth at college/university because let me tell you, the older you get the less time you get for such pleasant things in life - so enjoy, the processor/north bridge/GPU will last longer that the duration of a journey on foot from NYC to Sacramento (over and over). :) ......providing you don't put 1.8V in say a 45nm IC (like for like as trying to breathe with a hairdryer blowing in your face in human terms - even from a distance).

[Aavikkokettu]

Hello.
I have Asus Maximus II Formula and i get this week my QX9650 and i wonder should i put the latest BIOS 1901 or 1802 for overclocking? I try to find if i can rise cpu voltage little bit small steps than this 1307 BIOS can do.

[ndGreg]

Been busy and now ready to get back to work on this overclocking.
E8400 running stable 24/7 @ 3.6ghz, but still need to tune some others off of auto.
Heres my current settings and temps:

Ai Overclock Tuner Manual
OC From CPU Level Up Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting 9.0
FSB Frequency 400
CPU Clock Skew Normal
NB Clock Skew Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge 333
DRAM Frequency DDR2-961MHz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1 Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2 Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1 Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2 Auto
DRAM Timing Control Manual

CAS# Latency 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge 5
DRAM RAS# Active to Precha 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time 55
Write Recovery Time 6
Read to Precharge Time 3

READ to WRITE Delay(S/D) 8
Write to Read Delay(S) 3
WRITE to READ Delay(D) 5
READ to READ Delay(S) 4
READ to READ Delay(D) 6
WRITE to WRITE Delay(S) 4
WRITE to WRITE Delay(D) 6

WRITE to PRE Delay 14
READ to PRE Delay 5
PRE to PRE Delay 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay 5

DRAM Static Read Control Enabled
DRAM Read Training Disabled
MEM. OC Charger Manual
Ai Clock Twister Stronger
Ai Transaction Booster Manual

Pull-in of CHA 1 Disabled
Pull-in of CHA 2 Disabled
Pull-in of CHA 3 Disabled
Pull-in of CHA 4 Disabled
Pull-in of CHB 1 Disabled
Pull-in of CHB 2 Disabled
Pull-in of CHB 3 Disabled
Pull-in of CHB 4 Disabled

Common Performance 8

PCIE Frequency 101

CPU Voltage 1.275
CPU PLL Voltage 1.553
FSB Termination Voltage 1.312
DRAM Voltage 2.10475
North Bridge Voltage 1.45775
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage 1.5
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage 1.1

CPU GTL Reference(0) Auto
CPU GTL Reference(1) -40mv
CPU GTL Reference(2) Auto
CPU GTL Reference(3) -40mv

NB GTL Reference -60mv
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference Auto

Load-Line Calibration Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum Disabled

Tempertures: Idle/ Load
Motherboard: 38/44
CPU: 27/51
CPU Core 1: 32/56
CPU Core 2: 32/56
Northbridge: 49/56
Southbridge: 44/48
GPU: 38/38

Hope to get this board running even better. As this summer I will be moving on to the i7.
Do you have any suggestions on a Mobo for the i7?

[unclewebb]

I gave up on 485fsb, I had it for a while.. my Vista got corrupted or something while I was under that OC, and when I used to boot in sometimes Vista would schedule manual disk-checks and find errors and delete and restore files..

I had Vista bite me in the ass once or twice because of an automatic check disk. In my case, I had XP on a separate drive so Vista decided it would be a good idea to take ownership of every file on the XP disk and completely borked XP so I couldn't boot up any more. Trying to recover XP after this nightmare was worse than any virus you can imagine.

Here's a good solution:

http://www.windowsreference.com/windows-vista/how-to-disable-check-disk-chkdsk-at-startup-in-vista/

It's easy to disable chkdsk so you don't have to worry about it fixing things for you.

[noobzed]

is 1901 bios better than 1307 ? i own an A2 M2F

[screwtech02]

Seems to be a tad bit better, offers dual/quad vid card support..

[xoldboyx]

500X8 1200MHz Ram PL8

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/500x8_1200ram.jpg

Great news Grnfinger.
When you you finish testing,could upload a seting pattern for quads@500fsb+1200 ram?:)

thanks in advance!


and keep this thread alive.(you too ASUS:down:)

[529th]

Thats Great Grnfinger, nice overclocks on this board. The first thing I notice is it isn't running 1:1 - if there are more 12:10 results with prime95 9+hr pics with those settings I think I would change my opinion about the board.

[noobzed]

wooot nice bandwith :D

@evo: did you made a real killer bios with sli ?

[jason4207]

Thats Great Grnfinger, nice overclocks on this board. The first thing I notice is it isn't running 1:1 - if there are more 12:10 results with prime95 9+hr pics with those settings I think I would change my opinion about the board.

1:1 isn't a good ratio on P45. PL has to be set too high.

[Musho]

Ok guys, I've grown sick and tired of waiting for Asus to release a decent bios for this board, so I've started making my own Bios.....1910
Mind you, I've never done such a thing before, and I started "simple" by using the memory table and the p6 micro code table from the P5Q PRO TURBO bios. That board officially supports DDR2-1300 vs DDR2-1200 on the MIIF. Hopefully by doing so, higher memory clocks will be possible and _MAYBE_ pull-ins will be fixed. I'm really enjoying this mini-project though, so I'll look into more modding options for this board, so that we can finally use it's full power. I've just finished making it, and flashing it onto my own board, but I haven't got time to test it right now. Hopefully I'll have some time to test it tomorrow.

For those interested, I'll upload the bios file for you guys to beta-test it. HOWEVER, I AM NOT HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY POTENTIAL DAMAGE CAUSED TO YOUR BOARD BY FLASHING IT WITH THIS COSTUM BIOS. The risks of trying this shouldn't be very high, though, since this board has 2 different bios chips. :D

Please report back with the following information:
Compared to Vanilla 1901 Bios, does
1) Your Ram clock higher/lower/same?
2) Your CPU clock higher/lower/same?
3) Do Pull-ins work?

Thank you very much for providing me with this data.

And here's the link. Remember: I am not held responsible for ANY damage caused by using this costum bios.

http://rapidshare.com/files/227276368/MIIF-1910.zip

[Grnfinger]

Been busy and now ready to get back to work on this overclocking.
E8400 running stable 24/7 @ 3.6ghz, but still need to tune some others off of auto.
Heres my current settings and temps:

Ai Overclock Tuner Manual
OC From CPU Level Up Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting 9.0
FSB Frequency 400
CPU Clock Skew Normal
NB Clock Skew Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge 333
DRAM Frequency DDR2-961MHz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1 Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2 Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1 Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2 Auto
DRAM Timing Control Manual

CAS# Latency 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge 5
DRAM RAS# Active to Precha 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time 55
Write Recovery Time 6
Read to Precharge Time 3

READ to WRITE Delay(S/D) 8
Write to Read Delay(S) 3
WRITE to READ Delay(D) 5
READ to READ Delay(S) 4
READ to READ Delay(D) 6
WRITE to WRITE Delay(S) 4
WRITE to WRITE Delay(D) 6

WRITE to PRE Delay 14
READ to PRE Delay 5
PRE to PRE Delay 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay 5

DRAM Static Read Control Enabled
DRAM Read Training Disabled
MEM. OC Charger Manual
Ai Clock Twister Stronger
Ai Transaction Booster Manual

Pull-in of CHA 1 Disabled
Pull-in of CHA 2 Disabled
Pull-in of CHA 3 Disabled
Pull-in of CHA 4 Disabled
Pull-in of CHB 1 Disabled
Pull-in of CHB 2 Disabled
Pull-in of CHB 3 Disabled
Pull-in of CHB 4 Disabled

Common Performance 8

PCIE Frequency 101

CPU Voltage 1.275
CPU PLL Voltage 1.553
FSB Termination Voltage 1.312
DRAM Voltage 2.10475
North Bridge Voltage 1.45775
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage 1.5
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage 1.1

CPU GTL Reference(0) Auto
CPU GTL Reference(1) -40mv
CPU GTL Reference(2) Auto
CPU GTL Reference(3) -40mv

NB GTL Reference -60mv
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference Auto

Load-Line Calibration Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum Disabled

Tempertures: Idle/ Load
Motherboard: 38/44
CPU: 27/51
CPU Core 1: 32/56
CPU Core 2: 32/56
Northbridge: 49/56
Southbridge: 44/48
GPU: 38/38

Hope to get this board running even better. As this summer I will be moving on to the i7.
Do you have any suggestions on a Mobo for the i7?

Hey Greg sorry I miss'd your post...nice to see you around.

I gotta pile of paper work on my desk, let me clear a few things and I'll load your profile on my wifes rig and see what I can tweak.
What brand of ram are you running, link would be handy...
And whats your budget for i7, lots of boards some will cost you your first born child but are worth it, EVGA Classified is what I'm going to grab. got my 2 kids on craigslist now:rofl:

[GFORCE100]

Ok guys, I've grown sick and tired of waiting for Asus to release a decent bios for this board, so I've started making my own Bios.....1910
Mind you, I've never done such a thing before, and I started "simple" by using the memory table and the p6 micro code table from the P5Q PRO TURBO bios. That board officially supports DDR2-1300 vs DDR2-1200 on the MIIF. Hopefully by doing so, higher memory clocks will be possible and _MAYBE_ pull-ins will be fixed. I'm really enjoying this mini-project though, so I'll look into more modding options for this board, so that we can finally use it's full power. I've just finished making it, and flashing it onto my own board, but I haven't got time to test it right now. Hopefully I'll have some time to test it tomorrow.

For those interested, I'll upload the bios file for you guys to beta-test it. HOWEVER, I AM NOT HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY POTENTIAL DAMAGE CAUSED TO YOUR BOARD BY FLASHING IT WITH THIS COSTUM BIOS. The risks of trying this shouldn't be very high, though, since this board has 2 different bios chips. :D

Please report back with the following information:
Compared to Vanilla 1901 Bios, does
1) Your Ram clock higher/lower/same?
2) Your CPU clock higher/lower/same?
3) Do Pull-ins work?

Thank you very much for providing me with this data.

And here's the link. Remember: I am not held responsible for ANY damage caused by using this costum bios.

http://rapidshare.com/files/227276368/MIIF-1910.zip

Musho,

I tested your BIOS, all seems OK but the pull-ins don't work. I doubt it's as simple as that, must be part of the BIOS code itself, not the add-ons/ROMs. In fact perhaps the pull-ins work but the GUI in the MIIF BIOS is just not setup to save their values. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm right.

Can I suggest if/when you make BIOS changes you use the latest modded BIOS as your base. In the BIOS you provided you haven't changed the ROM's for ICHR10R, network boot, CPU microcode etc.

As this moment in time the latest modded BIOS (with the updated ROMs) is by E.V.O. version 201, see http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L0SV3IN8

Also, one other thing, you forgot to update the date of the BIOS build. Your build dates back to December 2008. Purely cosmetic but for someone from the outside it would act as an aid to determining older/newer BIOS versions. As it stands he/she would get confused by the newer BIOS version 1910 yet older build date.

[Musho]

I was in a rush yesterday, since I was going out with some friends :) I'll redo the mod on EVO's modded bios today or tomorrow. I will fix the date then as well. How does the bios perform with the new tables, though? Are you able to achieve higher RAM/CPU clocks? If it's not improving anything, I'll have to take a look at different tables from other mobos. Thanks for the info.

Edit: Ket has done a lot of modding on the P5Q-series mobos, on which the pull-ins didn't work either. He accidentally fixed the pull-ins before by importing memory tables from other mobos, so if the problem with pull-ins on the MIIF is the same problem as on the P5Q-series mobos, there was a slight chance of this fixing them. Guess we're out of luck though :( I'm still interested if there's an improvement in clocking, though!

Edit2: Where can I find a list of E.V.O.'s modded bioses? I'd like to take a look at them, purely for learning purposes :)

[GFORCE100]

I was in a rush yesterday, since I was going out with some friends :) I'll redo the mod on EVO's modded bios today or tomorrow. I will fix the date then as well. How does the bios perform with the new tables, though? Are you able to achieve higher RAM/CPU clocks? If it's not improving anything, I'll have to take a look at different tables from other mobos. Thanks for the info.

Edit: Ket has done a lot of modding on the P5Q-series mobos, on which the pull-ins didn't work either. He accidentally fixed the pull-ins before by importing memory tables from other mobos, so if the problem with pull-ins on the MIIF is the same problem as on the P5Q-series mobos, there was a slight chance of this fixing them. Guess we're out of luck though :( I'm still interested if there's an improvement in clocking, though!

Edit2: Where can I find a list of E.V.O.'s modded bioses? I'd like to take a look at them, purely for learning purposes :)

EVO's BIOS's are somewhere in this thread, currently three versions (perhaps around page 125-135 if not lost when these forums suffered endless downtime). You can also find them on his German website but I forgot the link. Forumdeluxx I think, somewhere on there, he has a whole thread on the MIIF if I remember correctly - all in German naturally.

Well if such attempts fixed the pull-ins on the P5Q then don't give up so soon, try various memory tables, who knows, perhaps success is within reach after all. It would seem bizarre that the issue of it not working on the P5Q is different to the MIIF, after all both are P45 boards and developed at the same time. Of course my logical thinking might be completely absurd.

I wonder, what does it take to be a BIOS team manger at Asus, what are Asus's requirements during the interview because somehow I don't think they check the integrity of such individuals almost at all. Either that or they hire wonderful managers that don't get to have their say because for example the marketing manager gets to tell the BIOS manager what he/she must do - the latter is no more than a human robot fed input. Sad but possibly true, hence our suffering.

I'll see if it clocks better later today.

[TouGe]

Here's a link to evo's latest BIOS. I just uploaded it to my rapidshare account since I don't remember where in this thread it was posted.

http://rapidshare.com/files/227506620/MIIF-1901.201.rom

[screwtech02]

Asus+Logic-working pull in's=standard Asus P45 operation.....

[Eeky NoX]

Grnfinger I think you're really Xtrem to waste such time on this mobo with those poor bios ^^

The MIIF is still my LANrig and don't makes me laugh with that max 666 ram or lil better :/

But I wanna know if someone has checked that moded bios which gives the support of the SLI

...is it a fake or what ? It works ? It rocks ?? Just seen it appears thanks to SimoniX (by PM)

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger I think you're really Xtrem to waste such time on this mobo with those poor bios ^^

The MIIF is still my LANrig and don't makes me laugh with that max 666 ram or lil better :/

But I wanna know if someone has checked that moded bios which gives the support of the SLI

...is it a fake or what ? It works ? It rocks ?? Just seen it appears thanks to SimoniX (by PM)

Well I wouldnt call it a waste of time, I actually enjoy myself, as for teh bios's if your referring to the "modded" bios I dont touch them, maybe if they would actually test them first and report/post there own findings I would try them out but why the hell would I load there bios if they wont even try it themselves...
I would have a great deal more respect if they were tested by the modder and the results were posted. As I have yet to see a single result from a modded bios.
As for SLI??? if I wanted it I wouldnt have bought a P45 board :rofl:

[Rosti]

Hello. Im new here and i need some help with my pc. I have a new pc build with Q9650 Maximus II Formula EVGA GTX 285 and Corsair Dominator 2x2GB 1066MHz. When i turn on ram test on everest i have this : :(

http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/3536/everestcorsair.jpg

Here are my bios settings. Im using 1901

http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0226b.jpg

http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0227r.jpg

http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0228n.jpg

http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0229p.jpg

Sorry for my bad English. And Please Help Me.

[GFORCE100]

Hello. Im new here and i need some help with my pc. I have a new pc build with Q9650 Maximus II Formula EVGA GTX 285 and Corsair Dominator 2x2GB 1066MHz. When i turn on ram test on everest i have this : :(

Sorry for my bad English. And Please Help Me.

Try the settings I posted at http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3749459&postcount=3413

You will need to find the right VCore/PLL/VTT/NB for your CPU/Motherboard to be stable at 4.05GHz but this will no doubt not prove a problem, you just need to experiment.

The only problem might be your RAM, whether it can do 1200MHz, it's worth a shot. Up your DRAM voltage to higher than mine if need be.

Don't be annoyed if you can't get stability straight away, simply experiment with the voltages and use Linx and Prine95 and MS Memory Diagnostics Test (if you have Vista installed just press F8). It's best to not boot-up into Windows if you're unsure whether your PC is stable, henceforth do testing in this order 1) Microsoft Diagnosics Tool, 2) LinX (I do 50 loops all RAM) and 3) Prime95 SmallFFT/LargeFFT.

If you get the above stable and fall back to your desktop when playing a game then simply up the NB voltage a little more - it happened to me in AOEIII.

Some guidelines for the voltages:
VCore: 1.3V
PLL: 1.55V
VTT: 1.35V
NB: 1.35V
DRAM: 2.15-2.35V

Keep a check at your CPU temps using CoreTemp (Google for it). Also not sure what CPU cooling you have, the standard Intel cooler won't work at 4.05GHz.

[Rosti]

Try the settings I posted at http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3749459&postcount=3413

You will need to find the right VCore/PLL/VTT/NB for your CPU/Motherboard to be stable at 4.05GHz but this will no doubt not prove a problem, you just need to experiment.

The only problem might be your RAM, whether it can do 1200MHz, it's worth a shot. Up your DRAM voltage to higher than mine if need be.

Don't be annoyed if you can't get stability straight away, simply experiment with the voltages and use Linx and Prine95 and MS Memory Diagnostics Test (if you have Vista installed just press F8). It's best to not boot-up into Windows if you're unsure whether your PC is stable, henceforth do testing in this order 1) Microsoft Diagnosics Tool, 2) LinX (I do 50 loops all RAM) and 3) Prime95 SmallFFT/LargeFFT.

If you get the above stable and fall back to your desktop when playing a game then simply up the NB voltage a little more - it happened to me in AOEIII.

Some guidelines for the voltages:
VCore: 1.3V
PLL: 1.55V
VTT: 1.35V
NB: 1.35V
DRAM: 2.15-2.35V

Keep a check at your CPU temps using CoreTemp (Google for it). Also not sure what CPU cooling you have, the standard Intel cooler won't work at 4.05GHz.

Im using Intel Box Cooler and i dont want to overclock it. I Just want to have about 8500mb/s read.

[GFORCE100]

Im using Intel Box Cooler and i dont want to overclock it. I Just want to have about 8500mb/s read.

This isn't going to happen without overclocking. You can probably lower your performance level to 5 but don't count on that making up for the extra 700MB/s you need to get you to 8.5GB/s.

[Rosti]

This isn't going to happen without overclocking. You can probably lower your performance level to 5 but don't count on that making up for the extra 700MB/s you need to get you to 8.5GB/s.

I don't understand that corsair says this is PC8500 so why i must overclock something to have that ?

My friend from steam is using Maximus II Formula and Corsair Dominator but 2x1GB and he have good readings

http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=corsyfriend.jpg

I also have some problems with turning my pc ON in morning. When i press power button i only see DET DRAM on lcd poster and i must remove one memory and turn it on and off and place it back.

[GFORCE100]

I don't understand that corsair says this is PC8500 so why i must overclock something to have that ?

My friend from steam is using Maximus II Formula and Corsair Dominator but 2x1GB and he have good readings

http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=corsyfriend.jpg

I also have some problems with turning my pc ON in morning. When i press power button i only see DET DRAM on lcd poster and i must remove one memory and turn it on and off and place it back.

Your friend's using a 400MHz FSB Vs 333MHz which you're using. He's also on a different memory divider. He's overclocked his system to put it short.

PC2-8500 refers to the number of MB/s in theory that the memory is designed to transfer (its read bandwidth capability). In other words 8.5GB/s when run at 1066MHz effective or 533MHz true speed. You'll never get that when paired with an also 1066MHz effective FSB as there's a lot of other traffic that gets sent over the FSB (such as control data) which consumes some of the bandwidth but also delays data transfers from the memory to the CPU. One must also account for the latency to access the MCH by the CPU before the latter starts the data transfer (or completes the write request). This is hence the same for memory write and copy performance.

So to put this into some easy to grasp perspective, your friend's 1600MHz effective FSB supports up to 12.8GB/s bandwidth hence why his RAM at 1066MHz releases its full potential being clocked at 1066MHz effective. If you were to run your CPU also at a 400MHz FSB (1600MHz effective) (perhaps using his settings as a starting point - if he's stable) and a 7.5 multiplier then you could keep your 3GHz processor speed yet get the extra memory bandwidth from the boosted FSB. On a 333MHz FSB your theoretical maximum memory throughput is 10.6GB/s minus all the overhead. It may seem to you that hey, so that means if I'm only getting about 7700MB/s read out of a maximum of 10600MB/s that suggests the overhead is a massive 2900MB/s. The answer is yes but your BIOS isn't even tuned, go and play with your AI Twister settings from weak to stronger and you'll see what I mean for example. Of course, it would be advisable to test stability but as you're not overclocking you should be good to go.

As for your power on problem, you shouldn't really leave every single BIOS setting on auto as nothing yet beats the human brain. I would increase your DRAM/NB voltage slightly and see if that helps to start off with.

P.S Don't assume your friend's BIOS is tuned either, he's got the opposite situation to what you have, his FSB is overload for his RAM setting, if he only increased his RAM speed he would observe instant visible gains in read/write/copy memory performance. Consequently, if he ran his RAM at say 1200MHz (possible) on a 400MHz FSB he would be getting read performance (assuming AI Twister set to strong) of about 9100MB/s and latency of about 53.5ns.

[Rosti]

OK i now understand ;) But i wounder why i can't turn my pc ON when im not usning it for about 10 hours. I only See DET DRAM on lcd poster and i must remove one ram.(1x2GB) and next turn it off and add ram (2x2GB). And what cooler will be good for Q9650 for overclocking to ~ 3.6GHz . Thx for help and sorry for my bad english im still learning.

[GFORCE100]

OK i now understand ;) But i wounder why i can't turn my pc ON when im not usning it for about 10 hours. I only See DET DRAM on lcd poster and i must remove one ram.(1x2GB) and next turn it off and add ram (2x2GB). And what cooler will be good for Q9650 for overclocking to ~ 3.6GHz . Thx for help and sorry for my bad english im still learning.

Use the template below to fill in your settings, it's easier this way for others to view rather than clicking numerous photos.

Re-read my above post slower, I make reference there about what I would do firsthand with the DET RAM error.

In regards to the cooler, many people are in love with the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme but I myself hate how it's attached to the motherboard hence recommend the Noctua NH-U12P. The latter cooler can be removed without taking the motherboard out of your case each time. Either of these coolers need a 2000rpm or higher speed 120mm fan for best performance. You'll need to remove your motherboard upfront to install their CPU socket bracket, thankfully in the case of the Noctua as noted above, this only needs to be performed once.

1st Information:
CAS# Latency: Auto
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: Auto
DRAM RAS# Precharge: Auto
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: Auto
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: Auto
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:
Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information:
Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
DRAM Read Training: Auto
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Auto
Ai Transaction Booster: Auto
Common Performance Level: Auto
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Enabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Enabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Enabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Enabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Enabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Enabled
PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: Auto
FSB Termination Voltage: Auto
DRAM Voltage: Auto
North Bridge Voltage: Auto
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: Auto
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: Auto

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Enabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Enabled

[karamell]

Hi guru's of OC...

Linpack: Failed 8 out of 10. Temps are fine. With linpack didn't go above 50C.
Core 1 and Core 2 where 61C max.
http://troll-net.hu/Temps.png
Tried to play with the voltages.. but no luck.
Can't figure out whats wrong...

Thanks in advance.

These are my settings for e8400.

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 500
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333MHz
DRAM Frequency: 1002Mhz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Info: 5-5-5-15-3-40-6-3
2nd Info: 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
3rd Info: 14-5-1-5-5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: Enabled
MEM. OC Charger: disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage: 1.3875
CPU PLL Voltage:1.51325
FSB Termination Voltage:1.31200
DRAM Voltage: 2.22400
North Bridge Voltage:1.36500
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.5
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.1

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

Load-Line Calibration: Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[Grnfinger]

try this....
First enable Enable load line calibration and retest, vdroop could be your problem...if it still fails then try the following

CPU Clock Skew : Delay 100ps

CPU GTL Reference 0 : -40mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 2 : -40mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : Auto

If its still crapping out you will need more PLL or vcore

[screwtech02]

Grn, you do a comparison with your Rampage Formula yet?? I hate to say it, but the MFII looks to have a better/more settings bios than the Rampage, and am thinking i may reinstall my MFII....

[Grnfinger]

Grn, you do a comparison with your Rampage Formula yet?? I hate to say it, but the MFII looks to have a better/more settings bios than the Rampage, and am thinking i may reinstall my MFII....

No I havent done it yet, still waiting for mosfet blocks, if there not here by Wednesday I'm going to file a charge back with paypal and buy the blocks from Gary at sidewinder, then argue with the XS member who sold them to me. been waiting since 13th of April...its not like I live in a igloo that requires a dog sled team to reach me:shrug:

I will admit the MIIF has a better bios, but I thought the latest Rampage bios now offers CPU and NB clock skew, if there working the bios's should be about identical now minus Mem OC Charger and Read Training

[n3xT]

hello,

I am new on Xs and I say well I'll post a small summary of our "Bench' Day" with a friend :)

The Config Rig was :

Asus MAximus II Formula
Intel Q9650 - HK 2.5
ATI 4870x2 - Koolance VID-487X2
Crucial Ballistix PC5300 Cas3
OCZ Vertex 2*30Go

So Here's the screeny :p

The Crucial Ballistix whith my crappy Dominator
http://images0.hiboox.com/vignettes/1809/02d7b27fd745c527d86167a941f18af6.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/informatique/img-0780,02d7b27fd745c527d86167a941f18af6.jpg.html)

and The score !

http://images1.hiboox.com/vignettes/1809/710e1640a5028ad5d4c07930d88cec55.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/informatique/9x490-desynchcrucru-rob,710e1640a5028ad5d4c07930d88cec55.jpg.html) http://images1.hiboox.com/vignettes/1809/5d90095d86940171a38022c549817386.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/informatique/9x500-desynchcrucru-rob,5d90095d86940171a38022c549817386.jpg.html)

And the nice bandwith for Grnfinger en His Dominator :up:

9x495 - 595Mhz whit Subtimings!
http://images1.hiboox.com/vignettes/1809/dd0d379cf4bc8fd8e2528f925b0c1f30.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/informatique/screen-grnfinger4,dd0d379cf4bc8fd8e2528f925b0c1f30.jpg.ht ml)

9x500 - 600 Mhz :up:

http://images1.hiboox.com/vignettes/1809/e0c2fcf073466457a0006eca7a9e02a4.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/informatique/screen-grnfinger5,e0c2fcf073466457a0006eca7a9e02a4.jpg.ht ml)

Voilà :D

[screwtech02]

No I havent done it yet, still waiting for mosfet blocks, if there not here by Wednesday I'm going to file a charge back with paypal and buy the blocks from Gary at sidewinder, then argue with the XS member who sold them to me. been waiting since 13th of April...its not like I live in a igloo that requires a dog sled team to reach me:shrug:

I will admit the MIIF has a better bios, but I thought the latest Rampage bios now offers CPU and NB clock skew, if there working the bios's should be about identical now minus Mem OC Charger and Read Training

Persoanlly i think the MFII bios is just a bit better, they added cpu/nb clock skews, but the MFII has better GTL adjustments, and seems to run a bit better than the Formula. Too bad about your blocks, that just sucks....:shakes:

[Grnfinger]

hello,

I am new on Xs and I say well I'll post a small summary of our "Bench' Day" with a friend :)

The Config Rig was :

Asus MAximus II Formula
Intel Q9650 - HK 2.5
ATI 4870x2 - Koolance VID-487X2
Crucial Ballistix PC5300 Cas3
OCZ Vertex 2*30Go

So Here's the screeny :p

The Crucial Ballistix whith my crappy Dominator
http://images0.hiboox.com/vignettes/1809/02d7b27fd745c527d86167a941f18af6.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/informatique/img-0780,02d7b27fd745c527d86167a941f18af6.jpg.html)

and The score !

http://images1.hiboox.com/vignettes/1809/710e1640a5028ad5d4c07930d88cec55.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/informatique/9x490-desynchcrucru-rob,710e1640a5028ad5d4c07930d88cec55.jpg.html) http://images1.hiboox.com/vignettes/1809/5d90095d86940171a38022c549817386.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/informatique/9x500-desynchcrucru-rob,5d90095d86940171a38022c549817386.jpg.html)

And the nice bandwith for Grnfinger en His Dominator :up:

9x495 - 595Mhz whit Subtimings!
http://images1.hiboox.com/vignettes/1809/dd0d379cf4bc8fd8e2528f925b0c1f30.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/informatique/screen-grnfinger4,dd0d379cf4bc8fd8e2528f925b0c1f30.jpg.ht ml)

9x500 - 600 Mhz :up:

http://images1.hiboox.com/vignettes/1809/e0c2fcf073466457a0006eca7a9e02a4.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/informatique/screen-grnfinger5,e0c2fcf073466457a0006eca7a9e02a4.jpg.ht ml)

Voilà :D

:welcome:
and nice results

[n3xT]

héhé Thx:toast:

[karamell]

Thanks for your advice. Linpack passed 10 out of 10. Now running OCCT just to make sure :D. My temps are a bit high with linpack:
http://troll-net.hu/Temps2.png
but i think thats ok. With anything else dosen't go above 55C/Core


try this....
First enable Enable load line calibration and retest, vdroop could be your problem...if it still fails then try the following

CPU Clock Skew : Delay 100ps

CPU GTL Reference 0 : -40mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 2 : -40mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : Auto

If its still crapping out you will need more PLL or vcore

[Grnfinger]

Thanks for your advice. Linpack passed 10 out of 10. Now running OCCT just to make sure :D. My temps are a bit high with linpack:

but i think thats ok. With anything else dosen't go above 55C/Core


Looking good, your temps are fine imo, Linpack is a real heat generator, nothing will stress your system harder, my system runs 10-12c hotter with linpack

[mr-rob]

hello,

I am new on Xs and I say well I'll post a small summary of our "Bench' Day" with a friend :)

:D Now, you just have to find some nice memory kits :p:
:welcome:;)

[Kayso]

hello,

I am new on Xs and I say well I'll post a small summary of our "Bench' Day" with a friend :)

The Config Rig was :

Asus MAximus II Formula
Intel Q9650 - HK 2.5
ATI 4870x2 - Koolance VID-487X2
Crucial Ballistix PC5300 Cas3
OCZ Vertex 2*30Go

So Here's the screeny :p

The Crucial Ballistix whith my crappy Dominator
...
and The score !
...
And the nice bandwith for Grnfinger en His Dominator :up:

9x495 - 595Mhz whit Subtimings!
...
9x500 - 600 Mhz :up:
...
Voilà :D

Great results !

Can you post your BIOS settings please? It will be very interesting to compare :)

Thanks

[e.v.o]

sry boys no time for a new bios right now cause i'm writing on my diploma thesis.

[Eeky NoX]

Next week I'll try my "BronzAir" E7500 on it, with that 1901 bios ...but I still think it's not a board for high end dualies and ramship :/

Maybe it'll give me a 500FSB (guess but don't think so...) and than I'll check with 2gb modules ;)

[ViViD]

but I still think it's not a board for high end dualies and ramship

Yep I Hate This Board And Decide To Change With DFI DK P45-T2RS+ :mad:

[screwtech02]

You get anywere with your "comparison" yet Grn?? I'm waitin on a couple waterblocks for my 4850x2's, then im gonna put my MFII back in, and see if I can achieve better clocks over the Rampage....

[Eeky NoX]

Update :D After all I'll try this one instead of the 1901 ^^

http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showthread.php?p=3773795#post3773795

But not a lot of time to waste with that h0w, my princess is the EP45T UD3P :p

[GFORCE100]

Update :D After all I'll try this one instead of the 1901 ^^

http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showthread.php?p=3773795#post3773795

But not a lot of time to waste with that h0w, my princess is the EP45T UD3P :p

Why oh why oh why oh why can't Asus release notes on what's changed in each new BIOS version like Intel does nicely in a PDF.

Oh well, I'll try it too, hopefully it's not just a new number. Here goes...

UPDATE: So far I see they've added the C-STATE option in the BIOS and also that the memory latency in Everest seems to be higher by 0.2ns.

[Grnfinger]

Why oh why oh why oh why can't Asus release notes on what's changed in each new BIOS version like Intel does nicely in a PDF.

Oh well, I'll try it too, hopefully it's not just a new number. Here goes...

UPDATE: So far I see they've added the C-STATE option in the BIOS and also that the memory latency in Everest seems to be higher by 0.2ns.

Do you not subscribe to Asus ePaper, it gives all the bios information they even have a rss feed...
1901 has been out for along time now

[humeyboy]

Hmm that Bios ain't for a MFII, You had me thinking there was a 1902.

I checked the Asus FTP and the MFII has a new bios dated 5th May build 2104. :cool:

[Eeky NoX]

Humm we're just talkin bout this one m8te U know ;) ...I'll check it tomorrow so.

[GFORCE100]

Do you not subscribe to Asus ePaper, it gives all the bios information they even have a rss feed...
1901 has been out for along time now

No, where is it? I can only find html pages on the Asus server that date back to 2006. Thanks in advance.

[Kayso]

New BIOS is online !

Maximus II Formula 2104 BIOS
Improve Memory compatibility

http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

[ViViD]

Finally Change Mobo With DFI DK P45-T2RS Turbo
GoodByE M2F :D

[TAX]

New BIOS is online !

Maximus II Formula 2104 BIOS
Improve Memory compatibility

http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

hopefully this might fix the damn cold boot det dram problem with my cellshocks :brick:

[KURTZ]

New BIOS is online !

Maximus II Formula 2104 BIOS
Improve Memory compatibility

http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

anyone has tried this BIOS? also have you checked the changelog into the asus web site? there is a 2101 BIOS that i never seen before ... :S

[Kayso]

WTF ?!?!?!?!
The new version isn't on ASUS site any more!


anyone has tried this BIOS? also have you checked the changelog into the asus web site? there is a 2101 BIOS that i never seen before ... :S

I really don't know, what is going on ...


P.S. Hehe, the new BIOS is back online. I really hope, this time, we will have an improvement.