ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[Kayso]

Here is my Prime95 stable for 8*450. Memory is at 1080 Mhz - Stronger PL8.

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1020/prime95yh0.th.jpg (http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prime95yh0.jpg)

I have to wait one weak for my new 4GB G.SKILL PC8800 Kit, so for now I will stop here. After I install my new memory I will go for 470 and 480 if it is capable to go for 1150 :)

[SiGfever]

Hey guys,
I am still on 1307 bios, is there any need to go to 1901? I was reading Simp's guide and he recommended 1901.
Thanks.

[Grnfinger]

Hey guys,
I am still on 1307 bios, is there any need to go to 1901? I was reading Simp's guide and he recommended 1901.
Thanks.

no I see no benifit from 1307 to 1802 or 1901.
They offer nothing, I tested 2 chips on both boards and niether 1 of them performed any better or required less volts....

[SiGfever]

no I see no benifit from 1307 to 1802 or 1901.
They offer nothing, I tested 2 chips on both boards and niether 1 of them performed any better or required less volts....

Thanks for the reply Grnfinger, I will stay with 1307 then. :up:

[Celcius]

Using +10 on the nb gtl got me stable:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7703/primetb5.th.jpg (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=primetb5.jpg)

I'm also using +20/-20/+20/-20 on the cpu gtls

[Mean Machine]

Haven't read the entire thread (for obvious reasons), but anybody heard anything about a multiplier issue with the mobo and a QX9770? No matter what I do, the multiplier stays at 8x, which kind of sucks when you got a QX. Had "some old" BIOS before, now I'm using 1602 and will try the newest one just for the sake of it.

[Grnfinger]

Haven't read the entire thread (for obvious reasons), but anybody heard anything about a multiplier issue with the mobo and a QX9770? No matter what I do, the multiplier stays at 8x, which kind of sucks when you got a QX. Had "some old" BIOS before, now I'm using 1602 and will try the newest one just for the sake of it.

you see if you botherd to read the thread you would know that 1602 is crap and has the multi bug:rolleyes:

1307 1802 and 1901 are all decent bios releases
For best ram compatibility use 1901

[Mean Machine]

Well, I just don't bother to read 121 pages with stupid questions like my own. :)

The weird thing is that the BIOS before it also had it, but no worries, I'm all fine on 1901 now.

[radaja]

thats exactly why you should read it,otherwise it just starts to repeat the same questions over and over,come on ,you have to put forward a little effort here.

[WhiteFireDragon]

i'm having trouble reaching 500fsb on a q9650. right now i'm at 490 and i can't get the last few mhz in. i suspect that it's my memory not letting me go higher, but is there any way i can find out for sure? i'm using crucial ballistixs (yeah i know, it's crucial :( ) and it won't boot at 5-5-5-18 so i loosened the timing to 6-6-6-20. which memory is 1200mhz stable for 24/7 these days? i'll post a template for all my settings later.

most of the time, the unstability shows when the whole computer freezes instead of certain cores failing when priming. is this memory problem is do i need to tune something else?

[Kayso]

i'm having trouble reaching 500fsb on a q9650. right now i'm at 490 and i can't get the last few mhz in. i suspect that it's my memory not letting me go higher, but is there any way i can find out for sure? i'm using crucial ballistixs (yeah i know, it's crucial :( ) and it won't boot at 5-5-5-18 so i loosened the timing to 6-6-6-20. which memory is 1200mhz stable for 24/7 these days? i'll post a template for all my settings later.

most of the time, the unstability shows when the whole computer freezes instead of certain cores failing when priming. is this memory problem is do i need to tune something else?

I can't reach 500 mhz with my quad too, no matter what I do. It posts but can't load windows.
So don't worry you are not alone :)

[Grnfinger]

i'm having trouble reaching 500fsb on a q9650. right now i'm at 490 and i can't get the last few mhz in. i suspect that it's my memory not letting me go higher, but is there any way i can find out for sure? i'm using crucial ballistixs (yeah i know, it's crucial :( ) and it won't boot at 5-5-5-18 so i loosened the timing to 6-6-6-20. which memory is 1200mhz stable for 24/7 these days? i'll post a template for all my settings later.

most of the time, the unstability shows when the whole computer freezes instead of certain cores failing when priming. is this memory problem is do i need to tune something else?

Run your ram 1:1 PL10 then it should boot.
I need a ton of vNB to get 500FSB 3D stable, up vSB 1.1 to around 1.20 it should help.


http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/500FSB.jpg

[Kayso]

Run your ram 1:1 PL10 then it should boot.
I need a ton of vNB to get 500FSB 3D stable, up vSB 1.1 to around 1.20 it should help.

SB то 1.2
and how much vNB ?? what do you mean by TON of it :)

[WhiteFireDragon]

Run your ram 1:1 PL10 then it should boot.
I need a ton of vNB to get 500FSB 3D stable, up vSB 1.1 to around 1.20 it should help.

nice 500fsb! are you able to go higher?

my mobo is horrible with 1:1. it won't even boot when memory is 1:1 984mhz PL10 moderate. right now i have it at 5:6 1180mhz PL9 stronger. NB is at 1.45v but i'm only running 2x1gb sticks. what is considered a TON of volts? i'll try upping the SB to see if it's stable and report back with results.

[Furiøùs]

Well, after much tweaking and trying many different settings and re-reading Simps guide about 6 times, I've got something im proud of.

485 x 8.5xMulti for 4.14Ghz on my Q9650, with a 400mhz strap 1:1 @ 970mhz on the ram. Yes it's low, but it'll have to do until i have 150 to get 2 sets of OCZ Reaper 1150 ram, which i'll be able to do the 333 strap and get 1177 out of *drool*.

Pretty happy! Thanks to Simps guide, the NB GTL @ +30 made it all work, 490 still crashes after an hour, 500 crashes after 10min. I gave up on those two, i dont think my chip can handle it, and i also had 490 going but when i throw my other 2 sticks in to the equation, it messes with stuff.

Right now im memtesting my ram with 5-5-5-15 (i know it's stable) with DRAM Static Read Control enabled, Mem OC charger enabled, CPL @ 10 (cant go lower or wont post) and STRONG. Stronger errors out in memtest 3% in :(

Pretty happy! I dont really feel any faster but for bragging rights it pwns. my Everest scores are up a bit, i lost like 300 in my Read but i gained a 100 or so in the rest of the benchmarks so i win :ROTF:
What's amazing is the CPU GTL's. +20/-20/+20/-20 fixed everything! Im running 4.14Ghz at the same voltage i did at 4.05. Insane! the GTLs were awesome. Im thinking about trying +30/-10/+30/-10 to see if i can get it lower.. but my Vista has taken alot of blue screens in the last week or so and i dont feel like reinstalling lol.

Thanks guys for all the help! Cant wait till i get my hands on some 1150 - 1200 ram, then im REALLY going to exploit this board. :clap:

[Celcius]

Anyone have a tip for getting the mobo usb headers to work? I never could seem to get them to work with my stacker's front usb connections...

[xoldboyx]

Run your ram 1:1 PL10 then it should boot.
I need a ton of vNB to get 500FSB 3D stable, up vSB 1.1 to around 1.20 it should help.



could you please post the whole setting setup?:shrug:

[folklore11]

the last time i tried esata, it just ruined my windows install.
do you have to plug it all in, then turn the power on?

also, will the speedinghdd ports handle 2 seperate drives not in any raid mode?
i wanna swap back to single drives instead of raid-0, but like the fact that its on a pcie lane rather than the useless pci bottlenecked bus.

Tired that too. Can hear the HD spin up, but windows never "sees" drive.:eek:

[Grnfinger]

nice 500fsb! are you able to go higher?

my mobo is horrible with 1:1. it won't even boot when memory is 1:1 984mhz PL10 moderate. right now i have it at 5:6 1180mhz PL9 stronger. NB is at 1.45v but i'm only running 2x1gb sticks. what is considered a TON of volts? i'll try upping the SB to see if it's stable and report back with results.


506FSB is best I can do 3D stable, I might grab a 9650 and play with that 4.2GHz is my goal for a 24/7 setup
try these for 500FSB

CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60600
FSBT : 1.40475
DRAM Voltage : 1.98
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51075
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.55300
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.20600

Then work them down form there, thats what I did.

My final 500FSB settings that I cant call stable cause 1 core drops after 3 hours of prime and no matter what I try I cant resolve the issue

CPU PLL Voltage : 1.53975
FSBT : 1.378
DRAM Voltage : 1.9
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51075
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.55300
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.20600



Anyone have a tip for getting the mobo usb headers to work? I never could seem to get them to work with my stacker's front usb connections...

Use the little blue quick connect/adapters mine did not work untill I used them.

[Celcius]

Use the little blue quick connect/adapters mine did not work untill I used them.

Didn't work for me, but as long as rear usb works I'm good. :up:

[SiGfever]

Didn't work for me, but as long as rear usb works I'm good. :up:

I hooked my Aquaero's usb cable up to the second MB port and it works fine.

[lha]

Hey guys, i bought M2F few days ago and i am confused.
I dont get even 500 fsb with my E8500 and g.skill. i am running ram only in one channel.
I havent found the "code" for this mobo in setfsb program so does this mobo even work on setfsb.
I am little dissapointed for this mobo cos it didnt show to be so good. So can you help me to get higher fsb and tell me some exiting stuff :D

[radaja]

Iha,dont get discouraged.you have only been at it for a couple of days.i dont know much about setfsb but you should be able to achieve your OC goals within the bios.there are plenty of template's for the E8500'S in this thread to use as a good starting point.just have to be willing to read through it.good luck

[Eeky NoX]

Hello to the assembly ^^ I'll come back in the place in a couple of weeks buizy wit UD3 for now !

@Iha: no don't be so sad you'll have what you want with them ;)
For SetFSB it works and you should raise between 533+ with lot vNB and good ramchips GD_LCK!

BIOS 1307 : Still waitin' for some improvement about ram frequency :D

[ZX672]

This is my first post on this forum, but I have been using this thread to build this machine (thanks Guys, your info helped a lot). Finally got everything running (purchased the mobo some time ago) and wanted to run a couple of my settings by the community and see what you guys think. The last time I overclocked a CPU was back in the slot 1 Celeron days..... My rig specs are below....

CPU-Z photo attached

Thanks,

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066 MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Normal
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal

DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Dram Read Training : disabled
MEM OC Charger : disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level: 10
PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.36250v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.51325v
FSBT : 1.2v
DRAM Voltage : 2.1v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.32525v
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Enable
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[WhiteFireDragon]

the only memory divider that is stable seems to be 5:6, and my cheesy memory can't reach 1200mhz, so i'm not able to reach 500fsb. the 1:1 divider is never stable, even when the memory is underclocked. does anyone else have trouble with this or know how to get 500fsb on 1:1?


This is my first post on this forum, but I have been using this thread to build this machine (thanks Guys, your info helped a lot). Finally got everything running (purchased the mobo some time ago) and wanted to run a couple of my settings by the community and see what you guys think. The last time I overclocked a CPU was back in the slot 1 Celeron days..... My rig specs are below....


ZX672 :welcome:. have you looked at simps guide to tune your mobo? you might be able to reduce your voltages or get higher clocks, although not much tuning is needed for dual cores.

[lha]

Ok the FSB problem solved = you have to give hell of lot vNB to get some fsb.

Another guestion, my mobo is bent pretty much, it was bent when i buyed from the shop so is this normal?

[andressergio]

Ok the FSB problem solved = you have to give hell of lot vNB to get some fsb.

Another guestion, my mobo is bent pretty much, it was bent when i buyed from the shop so is this normal?

I run my 2x2GB Gskill 1240Mhz PL7 on a QUAD an needs

vNB 1,45 ref +40
DRAM ref A/B +12,5
DRAM to NB ref -25

glad you solved
Cheers
Sergio

[radaja]

iha, that seems to be a common problem(bent,warped boards)ive had three now.very bad quality control at asus.two of my warped boards did not perform correctly because of this the other i sent back because the plain fact that is was warped.make sure you check that it works properly.

[IcemaN22]

Hi. I have experienced two times now that the hole computer freeze, and when I boot in bios I get message: Sata device port 3 failed/error, and then I can't enter the OS. To solve it, I have to shut down the system, reconnect the sata cable and then it's fine again. Strange problem, because in the weekend I had no problems in 30 hours straight. On port 3 I have one samsung hdd, somebody know what can be the cause? Im running AHCI mode.

[Starage]

Hello

What is a good voltage for the CPUPLL?
What would be a good FSB voltage that is safe?

I am using a Q6700 water cooler.

[Grnfinger]

1.60 PLL is max safe volts for that chip
1.40 FSBT is pretty safe, I'm unsure what the max value is but I ran a q6600 and a q6700 at 1.40 for 8 months at 450FSB and it did not suffer from the volts.

guys please chime in if I'm wrong on the volts

[ViViD]

Hi
I'm Never Care About Voltage For Example In This CPUZ Shot:

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/498980.png

Valid Iink (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=498980)

PLL On 1.7 Volt:D CPU 1.7 FSBT On 1.6 :D:D:D
I Can't Find Any Extreme Cooling Just With WaterCooling Take This FrQuency

[jason4207]

I realized my ram and possibly NB were giving me errors in linpack (I'm yet to isolate which), so after getting the system stable by bumping them both up 2 notches, I found I was able to lower my vcore to 1.240v @ 4.23GHz. The LCD poster reports the load vcore as 1.237v although cpuz reports 1.240v, I'm not sure which s correct. Although I doubt I'll be able to lower it more, I will do some more testing later.


CPU-Z is not accurate to 0.001v...only to 0.008v. Has to do w/ the number of bits used to represent the number. 1.237v is closer to 1.240 than 1.232, so CPU-Z has to round up.


the last time i tried esata, it just ruined my windows install.
do you have to plug it all in, then turn the power on?

also, will the speedinghdd ports handle 2 seperate drives not in any raid mode?
i wanna swap back to single drives instead of raid-0, but like the fact that its on a pcie lane rather than the useless pci bottlenecked bus.

The 'speedinghdd' is not a fast method to connect. Use Intel's own ICH10R for the best performance. It will also speed up boot process if you can turn off the Marvel controller. The speedinghdd is limited to ~120MB/s. Intel's ICH10R can go up to 750MB/s+. The ICH10R is not on the PCI bus.

Only use the Marvel if you need more ports, need esata, or need IDE. Otherwise its useless and just slows you down.


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I've had my M2F for a couple weeks now. Currently I have the multi at 6 and RAM 1:1 so I can focus on the FSB. Managed to get 490FSB large-fft stable for over an hour on my Q9550. Then I gave up and went back to 485 where I'm over 12hrs large-fft stable. Finally got to the last several pages of this thread and found Simps guide (Man, this is a long thread!!!). With new GTL info in hand and new confidence I'm trying to work on 490 again. I've literally tried almost 100 different CPU GTL setting combinations, but after reading Simps guide it seems a bit clearer to me, and I have a plan of attack now where before everything felt so random despite me trying to adjust things in a logical (what I thought was logical, anyway) manner.

I'll update as more progress is made.

Thanks goes out to all those people that have contributed! This community is what makes this a fun and enjoyable hobby. :up:

[shaffaaf27]

right, i assume this is a MOBO fault.

when i manually OC, my GPU (4870x2) decides to give me 3 red lights, and the system wont post, with nothing on the screen.

BUT when i choose auto OCing, and set it to crazy, the red lights wont come on and everything will be fine.

i have tried both 1802 and 1902 BIOS'

my specs:


Q9950 (E0)
ASUS MAximus II Formula
Powercolor 4870X2
ASUS Xonar DX sound card
Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 650W
2x2GB Geil Black Dragon
640GB Samsung F1
Pioneer DVR-216BK

Swiftech GTZ water block
Thermochill PA120.3 radiator
EK Multioption 150 reservoir
Swiftech D5 Vario Pump

[ChaosWDG]

That sounds like a psu issue there mate

650w is REALLY pushing it with a 4870x2! and then an overclock aswell? your asking for a fail! you need to upgrade that little baby and put in something around 750w+

Its a real effer to do but once its done it should work.

[Grnfinger]

That sounds like a psu issue there mate

650w is REALLY pushing it with a 4870x2! and then an overclock aswell? your asking for a fail! you need to upgrade that little baby and put in something around 750w+

Its a real effer to do but once its done it should work.

650watt should be enough for 1 single 4870X2.

If you can check the SB voltages when you set "crazy" in the bios.
I would suspect you need more SB volts for your manual overclock.

[radaja]

got my RMA board back from asus today,fives the charm.i will be selling it for a very low price.dont want nothing to do with it.pm me if interested.

[Grnfinger]

got my RMA board back from asus today,fives the charm.i will be selling it for a very low price.dont want nothing to do with it.pm me if interested.

did they ship a new retail?

[radaja]

they said they got me a new board but would not send the accessories since i already have them and that they might need them for other customers.but it is a new board,has the plastic protective covers still on the heatsinks and ive inspected the board very closely and it looks brand new,the pcb is shiny and very clean,all the washers under the heatsinks are there and looks like they have never been messed with or taken off.they even have the extra reinforced washer under the nb screws(last two were the first boards released that had the nb overheating issueand were missing the extra washers).

[Grnfinger]

they said they got me a new board but would not send the accessories since i already have them and that they might need them for other customers.but it is a new board,has the plastic protective covers still on the heatsinks and ive inspected the board very closely and it looks brand new,the pcb is shiny and very clean,all the washers under the heatsinks are there and looks like they have never been messed with or taken off.they even have the extra reinforced washer under the nb screws(last two were the first boards released that had the nb overheating issueand were missing the extra washers).

Its been a long road but at least your finally done.
If you plan on parting with the board go spam the Maximus X38 / Rampage conversion thread, there are few there looking for one.

You should at least take the board for a test drive:D

[radaja]

grn,thanks for the info.your right i should try it out,but its just so hard because i really am so burnt out over this that there is absolutely no desire on my part to even be bothered with it.but ill just have to force myself to do this

[GaBBa-Gandalf]

Hi guys,

Im out of the topic right now. ( I was to long not on this board ;) )...

I read that die GTL setting +20/-20/+20/-20 should bring some mhz...
Could u confirm that?



ps i was testing again. here my results for highFSB:
Test 570 MHz (http://xs-base.xail.net/_/Pictures/Mobo/ASUS_Maximus_II_Formula/maxFSB_primestable.JPG)
Test 600 MHz (nonstable) (http://xs-base.xail.net/_/Pictures/Mobo/ASUS_Maximus_II_Formula/maxFSB.JPG)

[CryptiK]

Hi guys,

Im out of the topic right now. ( I was to long not on this board ;) )...

I read that die GTL setting +20/-20/+20/-20 should bring some mhz...
Could u confirm that?



ps i was testing again. here my results for highFSB:
Test 570 MHz (http://xs-base.xail.net/_/Pictures/Mobo/ASUS_Maximus_II_Formula/maxFSB_primestable.JPG)
Test 600 MHz (nonstable) (http://xs-base.xail.net/_/Pictures/Mobo/ASUS_Maximus_II_Formula/maxFSB.JPG)

Nice results. GTL Ref settings are something you need to figure out through trial and error, setting +20/-20/+20/-20 may not be optimal for your CPU. Also the GTL Ref settings need to be altered depending on the Vtt you use, and the FSB and clock you are running.

[WhiteFireDragon]

i finally have all possible settings tuned. i noticed that everyone's BIOS settings are different on this board, even with the same CPU. now my questions is, do these BIOS settings need to change based on variances of the same board or variances in the same CPU? meaning if i need to RMA this board and i get a bran new one back to use on the same exact CPU, do i need to re-tune everything since it's not the exact board? or if i use this same board and get a CPU of different batch, would i still have to find the GTL's and screws again? what about changing the memory?

[Grnfinger]

i finally have all possible settings tuned. i noticed that everyone's BIOS settings are different on this board, even with the same CPU. now my questions is, do these BIOS settings need to change based on variances of the same board or variances in the same CPU? meaning if i need to RMA this board and i get a bran new one back to use on the same exact CPU, do i need to re-tune everything since it's not the exact board? or if i use this same board and get a CPU of different batch, would i still have to find the GTL's and screws again? what about changing the memory?

I have 2 Maximus II Formula's both boards run my Q9550 at exact same settings stable.
Never tried other chips , I might try a few C2D on the weekend.

[CryptiK]

CPU-Z is not accurate to 0.001v...only to 0.008v. Has to do w/ the number of bits used to represent the number. 1.237v is closer to 1.240 than 1.232, so CPU-Z has to round up.

Interesting, I was thinking it must have been rounding up, but it rounds up a lot sometimes. LCD poster reports 1.270v loaded at 4.3 GHz, but cpu-z reports 1.280v, and at idle LCD poster reports 1.31v and cpu-z reports 1.320v.



*******************

A couple of benches with GTX285:

3D Mark 03
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/3DM0343GHz756-1620-1404122v-213vHPL.jpg

3D Mark 06
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/3DM0643GHz756-1620-1404123v-215vHP.jpg

[Grnfinger]

Interesting, I was thinking it must have been rounding up, but it rounds up a lot sometimes. LCD poster reports 1.270v loaded at 4.3 GHz, but cpu-z reports 1.280v, and at idle LCD poster reports 1.31v and cpu-z reports 1.320v.



*******************

A couple of benches with GTX285:

3D Mark 03


3D Mark 06



Nice results, you should have went quad core, that cpu is holding you back :D

How hot does the card run on air?
Still waiting for a X2 waterblock and boy can I tell you this sucker pumps the heat, there should have been a BTU rating on the card:rofl:

[CryptiK]

Thanks. The dual holds back 3D Mark 06, but in 03/01/practically all games except farcry 2 its equivalent to a quad AFAIK. Is that correct or do you get better FPS on the quad? Also on air its unlikely I'd get a quad stable at 4.3 so that's why I went dual, and it was a lot cheaper.

The card runs a bit hot with fan on auto; it self adjusts according to temp and never goes above 72%, max temp gaming is around 83 - 85*C. I have replaced TIM with MX-2 so that may have taken a couple of degrees off stock temps but I did it before I fired it up so I don't know.

[ninjagordy]

hey guys, i need a reference guide for the setup of this board with my e8600,

i was running 4.5ghz 24/7 with 500fsb on a p5k-e.

i really need someone's settings at 4.5ghz with a e8600 as a guide for me.

was at 4.5ghz earlier with 450fsb no problems but my old ide h'd bit the dust and im not sure if it was due to anything i did.

now i cant o.c. any as it refuses to boot.

cheers in advance.

Gordy!

[CryptiK]

This is my template for 4302 MHz stable. 4.5 shouldn't take much tweaking form there. There are a couple of guys running 4500+ hopefully they can provide their settings too. You can just disconnect your HDD and boot into bios, set things up, and run the bootable memtest CD to see if it would be stable enough to boot into windows. When you say your HDD bit the dust do you mean mechanically or you corrupted windows?

EDIT - you run 2 x 2GB sticks so you'll have to back the timings off a little. May I suggest 5-5-5-15-5-60-8-5 / 8-3-5-4-6-4-7 / 16-6-1-6-6 (top to bottom) to begin with.

CPU Clock: 4302 MHz
Processor: E8400 E0
BIOS: 1307 / 1901



Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 478
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1147MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: 3
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 40 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 3

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): 8
Write to Read Delay (S): 3
Write to Read Delay (D): 5
Read to Read Delay (S): 4
Read to Read Delay (D): 6
Write to Write Delay (S): 4
Write to Write Delay (D): 6

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: 14
Read to PRE Delay: 5
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
All PRE to ACT Delay: 5
All PRE to REF Delay: 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: Enabled
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 8
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH4: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH5: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH4: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH5: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: whatever your CPU needs
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50000
FSB Termination Voltage: whatever your CPU needs
DRAM Voltage: whatever your ram needs
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35 (your board may need more or less)
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50000
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.20

CPU GTL Reference (0): +60mv – depends on your CPU & Vtt
CPU GTL Reference (1): +20mv – “”
CPU GTL Reference (2): +60mv – “”
CPU GTL Reference (3): +20mv – “”
NB GTL Reference: -70mv (your board may need more or less)
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Enabled

Load-Line Calibration: Disabled (you can set enabled if you want)
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[jason4207]

Thanks. The dual holds back 3D Mark 06, but in 03/01/practically all games except farcry 2 its equivalent to a quad AFAIK. Is that correct or do you get better FPS on the quad? Also on air its unlikely I'd get a quad stable at 4.3 so that's why I went dual, and it was a lot cheaper.

The card runs a bit hot with fan on auto; it self adjusts according to temp and never goes above 72%, max temp gaming is around 83 - 85*C. I have replaced TIM with MX-2 so that may have taken a couple of degrees off stock temps but I did it before I fired it up so I don't know.

Yeah, the quad will help tremendously in '06. Not so much in most games.

Here's a run I did last year w/ a Q9550, P35, and a volt-modded 8800GTS-512...all on air.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3839/18643wk8.jpg
18,643

You can get a quad stable at or near 4.3GHz on air, though. My E0 Q9550 was super cool under my TRUE at 3.9GHz. I'm still testing my new limits on this board, but it looks like I'll end up in the 4.12-4.25GHz range. Not sure on actual temps yet b/c I'm still testing for max FSB w/ 6x multi. I'll let you know how it turns out, but I don't think temps will be an issue. On a Q9650 4.2-4.4GHz is doable on air.

[Grnfinger]

Thanks. The dual holds back 3D Mark 06, but in 03/01/practically all games except farcry 2 its equivalent to a quad AFAIK. Is that correct or do you get better FPS on the quad? Also on air its unlikely I'd get a quad stable at 4.3 so that's why I went dual, and it was a lot cheaper.

The card runs a bit hot with fan on auto; it self adjusts according to temp and never goes above 72%, max temp gaming is around 83 - 85*C. I have replaced TIM with MX-2 so that may have taken a couple of degrees off stock temps but I did it before I fired it up so I don't know.

Well that makes me feel better mine runs 45c at 60% fan speed but hit 85c when I game, its the damn noise thats getting to me.
I do get better frames on Farcry with my quad than dual, I'll do a couple of 03 and 01 runs to compare, whats was your max FPS in 3D01? I get about 850-860 with no tweaks. Waiting for water b4 I torture the card.

[CryptiK]

At idle mine sits on ~45 - 47*C @ 40% fan. In 3D01 from memory it sits pegged out on 999 for the whole of dragon low and most of lobby low and half of nature. I'd have to re-run and check the individual game tests FPS to give you a definitive answer though. Here's an 01 run at the same settings as the 03 & 06 runs I posted before:

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/3DM0143GHz756-1620-1404122v-213vHPL.jpg

[Leeghoofd]

why don't you run 500FSB 1200mhz ram John and start to bench that CPU at 4.5 and higher !

[Grnfinger]

I would but it seems the board cant handle it, it crashes out at 4.4 - 4.5GHz. No idea exactly why as yet, it seems to be data strobe skew related, using 300ps cpu clock skew and 200ps NB clock slew with 100ps delay on all ram channels helps but I cant get it stable. It's not the cpu, its 30 pass linpack stable and 12 hours orthos stable at 4.5GHz @ 1.336v load. Just hates 3D apps at that speed. Ive tried everything and nothing works.

Tried it just now out of sheer frustration on my P5Q-D and it's even worse. I am considering grabbing an X48 board to try it out but it's a fair bit to spend to bench.

Never benched it but this what I could do on X38
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/stable_4400.jpg


http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4500_keep.jpg

[CryptiK]

Nice work there. Somehow I can manage the same stability test stability, just 3D apps, esp Crysis, crash out. I had to reduce NB GTL Ref to -70mv to get stability at 4.23GHz in 3D apps, but over that seems almost impossible. At 4.3 sometimes it plays for a couple of hours without issue, other times it doesnt last 5 mins.

Im considering a DFI-T2RSB Plus, or maybe even a RF. Then I think perhaps I should give up benching, deal with it at 4.23GHz, and just put that cash I would have spent on an X48 towards an i7 rig in 6 -12 months.

[ninjagordy]

hey dude...thanks for the help.... ill try a bit later...seems the hd bit the dust mechanicaly as my sata's are a.ok

ill keep you informed...ferkin lost 140gb of hd tv etc

[Grnfinger]

Nice work there. Somehow I can manage the same stability test stability, just 3D apps, esp Crysis, crash out. I had to reduce NB GTL Ref to -70mv to get stability at 4.23GHz in 3D apps, but over that seems almost impossible. At 4.3 sometimes it plays for a couple of hours without issue, other times it doesnt last 5 mins.

Im considering a DFI-T2RSB Plus, or maybe even a RF. Then I think perhaps I should give up benching, deal with it at 4.23GHz, and just put that cash I would have spent on an X48 towards an i7 rig in 6 -12 months.

4.2GHz is a nice clock, I ran mine on the X38 4.3GHz 24/7 for months and it was solid the entire time....I'm on the fence with i7 myself , I have a i920 and a sweet tri channel kit of Dominators, just need the $$$ for a board, PSU and water gear....and a case of course, or I could sell the i920 and ram then have lots of play money. I'd really like to take a Q9650 for a test run....

[JoeBar]

I would but it seems the board cant handle it, it crashes out at 4.4 - 4.5GHz. No idea exactly why as yet, it seems to be data strobe skew related, using 300ps cpu clock skew and 200ps NB clock slew with 100ps delay on all ram channels helps but I cant get it stable. It's not the cpu, its 30 pass linpack stable and 12 hours orthos stable at 4.5GHz @ 1.336v load. Just hates 3D apps at that speed. Ive tried everything and nothing works.

Tried it just now out of sheer frustration on my P5Q-D and it's even worse. I am considering grabbing an X48 board to try it out but it's a fair bit to spend to bench.
I can't believe that your board can't handle it. I'm running @4.5ghz (530mhz fsb) 24/7 for the past months without a single prob...

[ViViD]

Hi All
Please Help Me
I Never Can OC On My M2F In High FSB :(
Can I Go For Change Board To DFI P45 For Best OC??? DFI Is The Better Than M2F For Get High FSB Over 500.....?
Is That Think Better Or Stay With M2F Then In Future Go For Corei7 Or Phenom 2
Tanx For Sugestion
Sorry For My Bad English:D

[radaja]

well i fired up the new max today,and gave it one quick OC and i got to say that im impressed.this e8400 on the previous two boards needed at least 1.36-1.39 to be able to do this sort of clocks.thanks to cryptik ,grnfinger,simps and altny for posting thier settings so i could quickly canibalize each of them and put this together.i quit orthos cause stock cpu cooler wasnt quite cutting it,by the way i am still selling this board plus the e8400.board and cpu together will be 290$.http://i39.tinypic.com/2igja0l.jpghttp://i41.tinypic.com/n21f6q.jpghttp://i41.tinypic.com/mab5hz.jpghttp://i43.tinypic.com/23pum0.jpg

[Grnfinger]

well i fired up the new max today,and gave it one quick OC and i got to say that im impressed.this e8400 on the previous two boards needed at least 1.36-1.39 to be able to do this sort of clocks.thanks to cryptik ,grnfinger,simps and altany for posting thier settings so i could quickly canibalize each of them and put this together.i quit orthos cause stock cpu cooler wasnt quite cutting it,by the way i am still selling this board plus the e8400.board and cpu together will be 290$.

Congrats on teh decent board ...finally:) Glad you atleast put power to it
Sorry that your experience has soured you cause I would have bought your UD3P:D
I might have a buyer for your MIIF, I'll pm the info later tonight when I talk to him.

[radaja]

grnfinger thanks

[CryptiK]

I can't believe that your board can't handle it. I'm running @4.5ghz (530mhz fsb) 24/7 for the past months without a single prob...

I'm at a loss to explain it. It's rock stable in everything, but crashes out of 3D apps at 4.3GHz+. I have tried 2 different video cards and its the same. The cards are fine they work perfectly at lower cpu clocks.

I had to set the NB GTL Ref to -70mv or it would crash out in 3D at 4.0GHz, but now with that set up, it does 4.23GHz fine. Dropping to 1:1 ram at a little over 900MHz does nothing, changing NB GTL Ref just makes it worse, changing vNB makes no difference, changing PCI-E freq does nothing, changing clock skews/ram skews seems to help a little but only delays the inevitable. I even changed PSU, and flashed to the latest BIOS, but the same thing happens. I know this board well and I cannot 'adjust out' this issue.


Hi All
Please Help Me
I Never Can OC On My M2F In High FSB :(
Can I Go For Change Board To DFI P45 For Best OC??? DFI Is The Better Than M2F For Get High FSB Over 500.....?
Is That Think Better Or Stay With M2F Then In Future Go For Corei7 Or Phenom 2
Tanx For Sugestion
Sorry For My Bad English:D

To get over 500FSB on a 9550 you will need to give it a lot of vcore. Depends on the stepping, if its an E0 it will do it more easily but regardless its not going to do it at a 'normal' vcore, and it's almost certain it will not be anywhere near stable. DFI P45's are not very good overclocking quads from what I've read but give one a go if you think its your board.


well i fired up the new max today,and gave it one quick OC and i got to say that im impressed.this e8400 on the previous two boards needed at least 1.36-1.39 to be able to do this sort of clocks.thanks to cryptik ,grnfinger,simps and altany for posting thier settings so i could quickly canibalize each of them and put this together.i quit orthos cause stock cpu cooler wasnt quite cutting it,by the way i am still selling this board plus the e8400.board and cpu together will be 290$.

Well at least finally you got a decent board. Such a shame Asus dropped the ball on the QC on these mobos, but as a result in the meantime you found a way better mobo for less money, so that's something. Good luck with the sale.

[radaja]

SO again for the maxII and the E8400 together its 290$or better offer just give me a PM.cryptik your right about that.i should thank Asus for helping me pick the UD3P.cause at the time it was all about money,cause i was still thinking i had the best p45, just got a bad one.and i needed something to hold me over and the ud3p was just released(they didnt even have a review on newegg at the time of purchase)i debated over the biostar I45 and the ud3p.so yes in the end i really did win this one.

[dctokyo]

Well, need some advise.

The price of the ASUS Rampage Extreme has really dropped here and it was the board I wanted to get but because of the price before, it put me off.

But now, I can get it for around $280 US.

Would it be worth it? Any speed increase for gaming? Or go over to the Core i7?

[ninjagordy]

guys....this is a ferkin nightmare board for me....

im struggling with the settings on the board...did the gtl ref calc which im not sure about and got -40mv ( 1.4vc , 1.25 vtt )

i cant get it anywhere near stable at 4.5ghz and its closer at 4.4 but still no cigar... also...if i re-boot the board after running it at these speeds it refuses to post and i have to do a full bios reset...is this normal??

its driving me nuts now as my p5k-e was a no frills board and it was a damn site easier to get stable at these speeds.

if anyone can help let me know or if you want anymore info i can post it here.

running the rig in my sig.

cpu was 100% stable at 1.4vcore (cpu-z) at 4.5ghz with 9x500 on p5k-e with gtl set to 0.61 and 0.61. (1.1vtt)

i dont understand the equation but im sure someone can help. i also dont understand what to do with the xl calculator spread sheet.

gong nuts... i know once this boards set up right its gonna be ace but its a killer trying to get there...for now back to stock speeds....

cheers again

Gordy!:confused:

[ViViD]

To get over 500FSB on a 9550 you will need to give it a lot of vcore. Depends on the stepping, if its an E0 it will do it more easily but regardless its not going to do it at a 'normal' vcore, and it's almost certain it will not be anywhere near stable. DFI P45's are not very good overclocking quads from what I've read but give one a go if you think its your board.


Tanx But For 4246Mhz OC My Vcore Is 1.65:mad: It's Too High
But In Gigabyte UD3 Board I Can 1.5 For 4.3Ghz In This CPU:shrug:

[seba84_2005]

Hey ;) My overclock on this motherboard :)

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/seba84_2005/test.jpg

Processor: Q9550 E0

DDR2 Crucial Balistix 2x2GB 800MHz 4-4-4-12 2.0v

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8.5
FSB Frequency: 475
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1141MHz

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: 3
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 52 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 3

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.3250
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.60
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.36
DRAM Voltage: 2.11
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto -------or +10
CPU GTL Reference (1): -40mv -----or -30
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto -------or +10
CPU GTL Reference (3): -40mv -----or -30
NB GTL Reference: +30mv
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

GTL CPU przy VTT 1.36v = -43.519981mv

VTT * 0.667 + Y = VTT * 0.635

Such small help, calculator GTL REF for 45nm and 65nm CPU.

http://rapidshare.com/files/195363939/GTL_REF_CALC.rar

[Eeky NoX]

Hye guys,

I gat a bad new Cryptik : following the majority, i'm thinking about sell it , cus' an EP45T UD3P is commin' to my lab

May be I'll never see the real potential of my Crucials (D9gmh DL) and the others ...I think I've wasted to much time for now :D

You were both (Crytik & Grnfinger) very pleasant to read...see you next & congrates m8tes ;)

[Grnfinger]

guys....this is a ferkin nightmare board for me....

im struggling with the settings on the board...did the gtl ref calc which im not sure about and got -40mv ( 1.4vc , 1.25 vtt )

i cant get it anywhere near stable at 4.5ghz and its closer at 4.4 but still no cigar... also...if i re-boot the board after running it at these speeds it refuses to post and i have to do a full bios reset...is this normal??

its driving me nuts now as my p5k-e was a no frills board and it was a damn site easier to get stable at these speeds.

if anyone can help let me know or if you want anymore info i can post it here.

running the rig in my sig.

cpu was 100% stable at 1.4vcore (cpu-z) at 4.5ghz with 9x500 on p5k-e with gtl set to 0.61 and 0.61. (1.1vtt)

i dont understand the equation but im sure someone can help. i also dont understand what to do with the xl calculator spread sheet.

gong nuts... i know once this boards set up right its gonna be ace but its a killer trying to get there...for now back to stock speeds....

cheers again

Gordy!:confused:

What bios are you on? Asus has releases some major crapola, I would recommend 1307, 1802 or 1901 there all very decent bios

Post your max stable OC settings, suggestions can be made from there.



Hye guys,

I gat a bad new Cryptik : following the majority, i'm thinking about sell it , cus' an EP45T UD3P is commin' to my lab

May be I'll never see the real potential of my Crucials (D9gmh DL) and the others ...I think I've wasted to much time for now :D

You were both (Crytik & Grnfinger) very pleasant to read...see you next & congrates m8tes ;)


Good luck with UD3P :up:
I hope you come back and share your results, I too regret this board sometimes. I keep waiting for teh bios that will unleash this boards true potential.

[ninjagordy]

hey dudes, max stable o.c has not been achieved yet...im on bios 1901

max stable on the p5k-e was 4.5ghz

[CryptiK]

Hey ;) My overclock on this motherboard :)

Good work thats a nice clock.


Hye guys,

I gat a bad new Cryptik : following the majority, i'm thinking about sell it , cus' an EP45T UD3P is commin' to my lab

May be I'll never see the real potential of my Crucials (D9gmh DL) and the others ...I think I've wasted to much time for now :D

You were both (Crytik & Grnfinger) very pleasant to read...see you next & congrates m8tes ;)

I wish you all the best with the new board, hope it goes well. You've been running some pretty extreme 24/7 clocks don't feel too bad, your crucials have certainly served you well.

Let us know how it all goes mate.

[ninjagordy]

well..... lol..... im currently at 4.5ghz with 1.4vcore, 1.6 pll , 1.45 vtt, 2.1 vddr and everthing else on auto. currently orthos stable for 30 mins

weird i know but i wish i could suss this as im sure itll go higher...:confused:

[Nevin]

This is my E8600. I finally managed to stabilize 8x533 and after 10 days (I will have new ram) I will try 8x575.
http://hosting03.imagecross.com/image-hosting-th-04/54291.jpg (http://www.imagecross.com/03/image-hosting-view-04.php?id=54291.jpg) Click Image to Enlarge Image Hosting (http://www.imagecross.com/)

[ViViD]

Hey seba84_2005 Tanx For Info About Your Setting It's Been Working Great For Me
Tanx Man

[Leeghoofd]

Hye guys,

I gat a bad new Cryptik : following the majority, i'm thinking about sell it , cus' an EP45T UD3P is commin' to my lab

Flash directly to F5 bios and take into account that Vdimm undervolts by about 0.06 here... with the F5 bios the board starts to work in a decent manner, before it was a complete pos...

Some more info on the EP45T UD3P here : EP45T UD3P short review (http://i4memory.com/f90/gigabyte-ep45t-ud3p-review-12477/)

[Eeky NoX]

Thx for the link, I'll be there as soon as possible ;)

For the MaximusII I'll check for some possible improvement before sell it of course...see you next ^^

[e.v.o]

So, finally it is done :)

I made a thread at the ASUS Forums (http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20090209184234112&SLanguage=en-us&board_id=1&model=Maximus%20II%20Formula) with much much help from Cryptik. Thank you mate!
This thread is also linked at FdL, and if you also knew other forums, then please post it over there. This thread should canalize our needs and critique directly at Asus. There are still some things that should be corrected...

[radaja]

e.v.o,very nice.lets just pray that asus will read it and try to resolve these issues.cause its such a shame that this board,because of these issues cant really compete with these lesser priced boards.good job.

[CryptiK]

Thanks e.v.o, it would be nice if they fixed it. However as I mentioned earlier I'm now having some serious issues with stability over 4.23GHz and I'm thinking of selling off the board and trying something new, this just isn't good enough anymore, and I can't keep making excuses for it.

Today I tried my cpu, ram and video card & PSU with my mates EP45 - Extreme, and I had no trouble playing crysis and running 3D benches all the way to 4500 MHz (didn't try higher) using the same voltages (sometimes less) than I need in the M2F, so I can now say for certain it's the board causing my instability trouble.

I just have to now choose a board if I can somehow justify spending more money on s775 gear.

[radaja]

cryptik if you sell you maxII and then buy the UD3P there wont be much justifying to do cause you will have money leftover. good luck on your next board

[e.v.o]

Thank you all. Hope we're getting something done with this thread :)

As CryptiK also stated, the board is simply just a joke... you pay a lot of money and don't get real performance. those little extra gimmicks isn't worth the money :(
But for me there is no alternative out there... so i will stay with it.

I think no one would raise his voice if the MIIF would not be that expensive and won't be advertised as overclocking board (Republic of Crap < hey wtf is going on with that homepage? i paid for some f**king xtra content.. and it says "check back later" since 1 year? ^^). They made some real hardware mistakes and Asus just bought a huge amount of P45 rev. A2 :banana::banana::banana::banana: and produced many many MIIF .. so no going "back" for a new board revision.

Another thing is: I bought a P5Q Premium and the extra PCIe switch chip is simply just as hot as hell @ idle. So i downloaded the spec sheet to have a look at the maximum temp this chip can handle. should i tell you what? the temp is now @ about 55°C up to 60°C and this one can only handle up to 70°C, so there is no really room to deal with. just thinking about getting a P5Q dlx or some other board.

[Grnfinger]

P45 was a huge risk, in all honestly what did it fill? What market was it aimed for?
X38/X48 is far superior in bandwidth/FSB, Asus filled a small void with eye candy and it worked, toss a few free boards out and let the forums market our board for us.
I am dissapointed with the price/performance from this board, there are other boards out there performing on par or better for way less money. Spending money has never been a issue for me, I just like to get what I pay for, :banana::banana::banana::banana: I can spay paint some heat sink.....
Investing in 775 no matter how small seems rather pointless...i7 is here and really not any more costly than 775/DDR3
I do feel that if Asus was to actually put some effort into coding a WORKING bios it would unleash the boards full potential, maybe the Gigabyte UD3 team could have a go at it.
Untill that bios arrives I doubt we will ever know what it can really do.
My :2cents:

[radaja]

+1.i think you right on that.i still think im going to wait until they have all the kinks ironed out and maybe a newer revision with the I7 setup.although they seem to be pretty good right now.but ill wait til there is one board that stands out amongst the rest(proven winner where if you ask you get 90% of the people voting for it)

[CryptiK]

Trouble is I don't quite trust the UD3P. DFI's build quality may not be up to quality standards set by other manufacturers, as there has been a few odd failures when really pushed hard, not that the tier 1 manufacturers are setting a very good example anyway. Add to that I don't really like any DDR2 X48 boards; there are a couple but each has negatives that make them not worth the expense IMO, the 2 X48's I really like, the Rampage Extreme and P5E3-Premium, are DDR3 and would require a ram upgrade, and the only DDR3 ram I want is double the price of the boards in question. I am between a rock and a hard place.

The things that make i7 not very practical right now, is decent DDR3 ram (2000MHz+ CL7 @ <1.65v) is ridiculously expensive (ordinary DDR3 is weak, if it clocks well it's barely any better than DDR2 at 600MHz CL5), and the board I like most (EVGA Classified) is not out yet, plus the platform/cpu's are so new it may be markedly improved by hardware updates. I want my i7 build to be a really good improvement, not mildly better than my current setup. I will definitely wait before upgrading platforms.

**All that said though, I'm tempted by the DFI UT P45-T2RS. It looks to be a pretty solid board, better than the M2F, and with a stronger PWM than the UD3P. I just wish DFI would get with the program and put a BIOS update feature in the BIOS, flashing with DOS is arcane. I also worry about BIOS updates.

[radaja]

cryptik,i think your right about the UT-P45-T2RS.i was just looking at the everest scores that C-N posted on the first page of his thread and the are very impressive.he is getting some very low latencies compared to my 520fsb and 540 fsb runs on my UD3P.also higher read write and copy scores too.here is my run at 544fsb and then go look at his 540fsb run on the first page of his thread.i dont understand how his scores beat mine by so much?http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3507503&postcount=973http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3388790&postcount=1

[e.v.o]

**All that said though, I'm tempted by the DFI UT P45-T2RS. It looks to be a pretty solid board, better than the M2F, and with a stronger PWM than the UD3P. I just wish DFI would get with the program and put a BIOS update feature in the BIOS, flashing with DOS is arcane. I also worry about BIOS updates.

Thats the point. This is the difference between a big manufactuer and DFi and why i stay with my MIIF. All benchmarks i've seen are showing that the DFi P45 boards are going extremly well. I don't want to push everything to the max, but it'll be nice to have 500+ FSB with 24/7 settings...

[CryptiK]

Yeah I'm really liking that board, it has 8 phase digital PWM and appears to be quite solid. I think DFI have really tweaked the BIOS and chipset timings to give the best performance out of the P45, clock for clock I have not seen another P45 board come close to it bandwidth/latency wise. Also the it comes with the A3 revision chipset. Theres a q9650 clocked at 4.35GHz 9HRs+ stable, so it can clock quads well it seems too. i have also seen everest benches at DDR2-1350 and no way can my M2F even load windows at DDR2-1333, I can pass 32M at DDR2-1302 at only 2.24 vdimm, then nothing over that can be stabilized, and its not my ram obviously, I just run into a wall and it has to be the board.

The thing about the BIOS updates doesnt concern me if the latest BIOS actually works as it should, which it seems to.

[radaja]

thanks for the info,thats awesome they have the A3revision,thats going to be a very lethal combo digital pwm and the A3 and great memory performance. going to see if i can find one.

[e.v.o]

Also i don't know why Asus isn't switching to PWM.
I don't think it is only the BIOS that Asus messed up. There must be a hardware issue why the MIIF isn't running that good against other boards in that class. The BIOS is like the ones from the P5Q Series and the P5Q Dlx runs even better than the MIIF.

[Gunnz Akimbo]

ICH10 IS on the PCI bus, along with :banana::banana::banana::banana:loads of other devices (not all as is displayed, but enough to clog it up)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6325/ich10pcibusfp6.th.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ich10pcibusfp6.jpg)

Everest 5.00

[Grnfinger]

Trouble is I don't quite trust the UD3P. DFI's build quality may not be up to quality standards set by other manufacturers, as there has been a few odd failures when really pushed hard, not that the tier 1 manufacturers are setting a very good example anyway. Add to that I don't really like any DDR2 X48 boards; there are a couple but each has negatives that make them not worth the expense IMO, the 2 X48's I really like, the Rampage Extreme and P5E3-Premium, are DDR3 and would require a ram upgrade, and the only DDR3 ram I want is double the price of the boards in question. I am between a rock and a hard place.

The things that make i7 not very practical right now, is decent DDR3 ram (2000MHz+ CL7 @ <1.65v) is ridiculously expensive (ordinary DDR3 is weak, if it clocks well it's barely any better than DDR2 at 600MHz CL5), and the board I like most (EVGA Classified) is not out yet, plus the platform/cpu's are so new it may be markedly improved by hardware updates. I want my i7 build to be a really good improvement, not mildly better than my current setup. I will definitely wait before upgrading platforms.

**All that said though, I'm tempted by the DFI UT P45-T2RS PLUS. It looks to be a pretty solid board, better than the M2F, and with a stronger PWM than the UD3P. I just wish DFI would get with the program and put a BIOS update feature in the BIOS, flashing with DOS is arcane. I also worry about BIOS updates.

Actually flashing through DOS is the safest method, Making a bootable USB stick takes about 3 seconds and with a ES version of AFUDOS you should NEVER have a single issue unless you have a power failure.
Flashing with AFUDOS is the only way I update any bios, it has never let me down


Now how come all you MIIF fanbois are changing tune late in the game:D
I tried to tell you the Rampage was a superior board:yepp:
Seriously are you going to jump ship?

[jason4207]

ICH10 IS on the PCI bus, along with :banana::banana::banana::banana:loads of other devices (not all as is displayed, but enough to clog it up)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6325/ich10pcibusfp6.th.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ich10pcibusfp6.jpg)

Everest 5.00

Take your 2 raptors and put them on the 'speeding HDD' in RAID0. Wait...you already did:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3402786&postcount=1672


OK, now take those same 2 raptors and put them on the ICH10R, and see what happens...


The 'speeding hdd' is capping you at about 120MB/s. That is not much faster than a single raptor. W/ 2 raptors you should be getting something closer to 180MB/s. If you really believe the 'speeding hdd' is faster then that is your call, but the numbers speak for themselves IMO. Best thing to do is disable the Marvel altogether unless you need extra ports. All it does is give mediocre results and slow down your boot process.



Here is a thread (http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17958445) I just found where a couple 150-raptors were tested alone, and then in various RAID0 configs using ICH10. See for yourself which looks faster.

[humeyboy]

ICH10 IS on the PCI bus, along with :banana::banana::banana::banana:loads of other devices (not all as is displayed, but enough to clog it up)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6325/ich10pcibusfp6.th.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ich10pcibusfp6.jpg)

Everest 5.00


I don't know what you are smoking but the ICH10 IS NOT on the PCI BUS, if it was it would be limited to 133MB/Sec shared with all other devices. :rolleyes:

IT IS on the PCI-E 2.0 BUS and has plenty of Bandwidth. ;)

[radaja]

i think gunns is refering to this thread.maybe?does make you wonder whats going on
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=217135

[jason4207]

i think gunns is refering to this thread.maybe?does make you wonder whats going on
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=217135

That is interesting, but even if ICH10 is somehow restricted on X58, it is still a heck of a lot faster than any secondary on-board RAID controller I've ever seen.

[CryptiK]

Actually flashing through DOS is the safest method, Making a bootable USB stick takes about 3 seconds and with a ES version of AFUDOS you should NEVER have a single issue unless you have a power failure.
Flashing with AFUDOS is the only way I update any bios, it has never let me down


Now how come all you MIIF fanbois are changing tune late in the game:D
I tried to tell you the Rampage was a superior board:yepp:
Seriously are you going to jump ship?

Yeah I know its safer, and my flashdrive is set up as bootable anyway as I was using it for videocards. I just find it a little arcane, although of course it works fine.

I was 'ok' with this board until I got my new 8400 and stated hitting my boards limit much earlier than I would have liked. It has some kind of issue with FSB between 470 and 499, 500 FSB/DDR2-1200 is way more stable (but not totally) than 478 FSB/DDR2-1147 at exactly the same settings, and 478 FSB/DDR2-1195 is terribly unstable.

The weird thing is, the higher the FSB I use, the more negative I have to set the NB GTL Ref, and if using a high clock, it is terribly unstable in 3D apps although it can pass linpack, orthos, memtest etc.

I can be stable at 478 x 8/DDR2-1147, but as soon as I use 9x MP, it falls apart. Skewing helps but cannot stabilize it.

I just want a stable 24/7 board at either 4.25GHz, 500 FSB/DDR2-1200, 4.3GHz, 506 FSB/DDR2-1214 or 4.3GHz, 478FSB/DDR2-1195.

I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet. I cant get a DFI UT P45, so I'm strongly considering the DK X48-T2RSB Plus.

[529th]

I bought this board MIIF in hopes for a new home for my Q9650. Reading this thread sorta depresses me. I've not pushed my Q9650 beyond 3.6Ghz on this board but I do know its better than my old Asus P5Q3 Del which required 1.345vcore to hit 4ghz; with this it comes across at 3.6Ghz with 1.20v which at the same speed required 1.2500+v on the P5Q3 (running 1901 bios too btw)

[CryptiK]

P45's and DDR3 don't seem to produce very good results, so this board should definitely be better than your P5Q3. If you are going to stay around 3.6GHz - 4.0GHz, this board should be fine for you. However if you want to clock higher go grab the UD3P, that clocks quads like nothing else.

Some people got good samples of the M2F, so you might be lucky, others have got average boards and some were just hopeless, warped etc. Radaja went through 5 boards until he got one that was up to standard regarding build quality. Asus really messed up the quality control on the Max 2 Formula.

[bito]

I bought this board MIIF in hopes for a new home for my Q9650. Reading this thread sorta depresses me. I've not pushed my Q9650 beyond 3.6Ghz on this board but I do know its better than my old Asus P5Q3 Del which required 1.345vcore to hit 4ghz; with this it comes across at 3.6Ghz with 1.20v which at the same speed required 1.2500+v on the P5Q3 (running 1901 bios too btw)

Don't be too down beat with your purchase.....i'm running my Q9650 at 4.275Ghz on this 'board, with 1.328v under load, so its not all bad. Higher FSB may be possible on the UD3 series Gigabyte's (and i may yet test drive one) but this is a solid, if not outstanding, offering.

[529th]

I'm not even sure what revision board I have... although I do know that I have this on custom H20 with some help from an Anandtech member that I am hoping to reach 500fsb with 2 Gskill 1000 2x2 kits (F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ) = not even sure which IC's are on those either. But I appreciate E.V.O. for posting in the Asus vip forums about the things that need be changed...

Which Rampage board is Grnfinger talking about? And what about the UD3P series?

[CryptiK]

Well the rampage extreme (X48, DDR3) is obviously way better than this board, but Grnfinger was referring to the rampage formula (X48, DDR2).

[Celcius]

<<+1 for the people that like their board :D

Just a question, what voltage are you guys giving the northbridge to run 450fsb 24/7? Also, are you running the vtt at that same voltage?

[seba84_2005]

Hey ;) I have the small problem. I can not get stability on mine Q9550 E0 :(

My settings:

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8.5
FSB Frequency: 480
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1152MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 300ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: 3
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 3

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto


3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
DRAM Read Training: Auto
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.3500
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.338
DRAM Voltage: 2.19
North Bridge Voltage: 1.4
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.51
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.11

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration

Ratio CMOS Setting: 8.5
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

What I have adjust CPU GTL voltage ? I try set up: -40mv 1/3 and -45mv 1/3
but this did not give anything :down:

[jason4207]

Hey ;) I have the small problem. I can not get stability on mine Q9550 E0 :(

My settings:

...

What I have adjust CPU GTL voltage ? I try set up: -40mv 1/3 and -45mv 1/3
but this did not give anything :down:

Try Simps guide a few pages back. If you have only tried 2 GTL combos you have barely scratched the surface. I've been testing for about 3 weeks now, and have tried at least 150 different combinations on just the CPU GTL's alone.

I'm pretty sure I have 485 locked down (over 12hrs large-fft before 1 core fails), but I'm working on going higher now...it's tedious to say the least.

Try playing w/ NB GTL. It helped me immensely.

[Tergon]

Bito, could you please post the BIOS settings you are using to get that Overclock?


Don't be too down beat with your purchase.....i'm running my Q9650 at 4.275Ghz on this 'board, with 1.328v under load, so its not all bad. Higher FSB may be possible on the UD3 series Gigabyte's (and i may yet test drive one) but this is a solid, if not outstanding, offering.

[CryptiK]

<<+1 for the people that like their board :D

Just a question, what voltage are you guys giving the northbridge to run 450fsb 24/7? Also, are you running the vtt at that same voltage?

Depends on divider and tRD, but around 1.25v for 450 FSB/DDR2-1200 PL8. Need around 1.30 vNB for PL7. I run Vtt @ 1.25v regardless of anything else.

[bito]

Bito, could you please post the BIOS settings you are using to get that Overclock?

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/v5-aps/Q96504_275ghz.jpg



Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 475
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1141MHz

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: 3
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 3

PCIE Frequency: 101

CPU Voltage: 1.3250
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.57
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.36
DRAM Voltage: 2.10
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): -40mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): -40mv
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[Tergon]

Thanks I will give it a try later tonight and let you know how it goes, I have been unable to get stable above 4050MHz and 450 FSB. Thanks again



http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/v5-aps/Q96504_275ghz.jpg



Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 475
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1141MHz

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: 3
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 3

PCIE Frequency: 101

CPU Voltage: 1.3250
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.57
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.36
DRAM Voltage: 2.10
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): -40mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): -40mv
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[Tergon]

If you could post your FPO/Batch number as well, thanks?

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 475
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1141MHz

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: 3
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 3

PCIE Frequency: 101

CPU Voltage: 1.3250
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.57
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.36
DRAM Voltage: 2.10
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): -40mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): -40mv
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled[/QUOTE]

[Celcius]

@bito: Is that on water? Also, do you remember how much vcore you needed for 4Ghz?

[529th]

So, i've finally tried finding the max my components will go.
custom H20 btw

Q9650 - FPO/Batch# L820B033
MIIF
DDR2 1000 2* 2x2 kit
Enermax Revolution 950

tries:
1 I've ran memtest86+ 2.11 1 pass at 500fsb 7 multi and it passed but would not boot
2 Leaving everything on auto except the fsb to 450 boots fine passes both small and large FFT's in prime 95, IBT running ATI tool (Scanning for artifacts) - vcore read 1.344 ~ 1.352
I've heard small FFTs are for CPU stability and large are more for subsystem & RAM testing more than cpu testings - is that correct?

I'm not sure about how to set my bios for 4.5Ghz - I've actually ordered another Q9650 thinking it maybe the weak link

Can I get a few suggestions from the experienced people here? Thanks

[bito]

@bito: Is that on water? Also, do you remember how much vcore you needed for 4Ghz?

It is indeed on water....4.0Ghz requires 1.232v........

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=3403091#post3403091

Batch/FPO: L822B344
Here's a 3dmark06 run with a GTX260 (216SP) :- 21563

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9977212

[ViViD]

Maybe For 500 FSB On Quad I Need WaterCooling Both CPU & NB???

[pphx459]

Nice Bito, you have one of those magical 1.225 vid chips :)

Well, after tinkering with a ton of settings here's where I'm at prime 95 blend 17 hours stable, IBT stable

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/pphx459/updated%20pc/image.jpg

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 456
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: 1095 DDR2-MHz
Performance Level: 8
Clock Twister: Strong

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: 3
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 3

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.3685 (1.376 actual)
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.3125
DRAM Voltage: 2.10
North Bridge Voltage: 1.45
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): -40mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): -40mv
NB GTL Reference: -20
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Will try to lower NB volts now and attempt to lower the TRD.

[ViViD]

Hi

Could Any1 Give Me Bios Setting For E4600(C2D 65nm) For Find Max FSB In 6X Ration CMOS Multiplier
About Voltage,GTL Anything For Find Max FSB
I Use Water Cooling On CPU But Stock Cooling For NB & Other
I Realy Need It
Tanx

[CryptiK]

Couple of benches with the 285.

3D Mark 03: 4.4 GHz/ DDR2-1222 / PL8, 285 @ 756/1656/1458

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/CryptiKone/3d0368149.jpg

Aquamark: 4.5 GHz/ DDR2-1250 / PL8, 285 @ 756/1656/1507

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/CryptiKone/aqm45ghz278181.jpg

3D Mark 01: 4.4 GHz/ DDR2-1222 / PL8, 285 @ 756/1656/1458

Grnfinger - you can see the individual game test fps in this one

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/CryptiKone/3d0186475.jpg

[seba84_2005]

Try Simps guide a few pages back. If you have only tried 2 GTL combos you have barely scratched the surface. I've been testing for about 3 weeks now, and have tried at least 150 different combinations on just the CPU GTL's alone.

I'm pretty sure I have 485 locked down (over 12hrs large-fft before 1 core fails), but I'm working on going higher now...it's tedious to say the least.

Try playing w/ NB GTL. It helped me immensely.


My best stable GTL = +20mv all ref CPU and +60mv to NB ;)

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/seba84_2005/sebatest.jpg

[Tergon]

Thanks for the reply, your config just didn't seem to work for me, I am on Air only with a lapped TRUE. Try 470 and 460, these both booted into windows but were unstable to say the least. Looks like 4050 will be it for me. I have an "A" revision chip and this might be why. Batch/FPO: L828A446.


It is indeed on water....4.0Ghz requires 1.232v........

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=3403091#post3403091

Batch/FPO: L822B344
Here's a 3dmark06 run with a GTX260 (216SP) :- 21563

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9977212

[jason4207]

So, i've finally tried finding the max my components will go.
custom H20 btw

Q9650 - FPO/Batch# L820B033
MIIF
DDR2 1000 2* 2x2 kit
Enermax Revolution 950

tries:
1 I've ran memtest86+ 2.11 1 pass at 500fsb 7 multi and it passed but would not boot
2 Leaving everything on auto except the fsb to 450 boots fine passes both small and large FFT's in prime 95, IBT running ATI tool (Scanning for artifacts) - vcore read 1.344 ~ 1.352
I've heard small FFTs are for CPU stability and large are more for subsystem & RAM testing more than cpu testings - is that correct?

I'm not sure about how to set my bios for 4.5Ghz - I've actually ordered another Q9650 thinking it maybe the weak link

Can I get a few suggestions from the experienced people here? Thanks


You aren't going to get far at all w/ everything on auto. Go back a few pages and look for a guide by Simps. It should help you get started.

450 is easy. 470-480 stable will take a little bit of work, but shouldn't be too much of a problem. 480+ is going to take a lot more effort to get completely stable if its even possible w/ one's particular hardware.

Your new chip might be easier to OC or more difficult. Each is different.

[Tergon]

So does anybody think that Asus will update firmware to enable some SLI love on this board, with Nvidia's new annoucements any thoughts?

[Grnfinger]

Couple of benches with the 285.



3D Mark 01: 4.4 GHz/ DDR2-1222 / PL8, 285 @ 756/1656/1458

Grnfinger - you can see the individual game test fps in this one



VERY NICE! :up:

I'll never get the 4870X2 ram up that high but I should be able to get the cores to 825MHz, I'll run some comparisons once the block arrives, hope to have it this weekend, its finally in the mail!

[jason4207]

So does anybody think that Asus will update firmware to enable some SLI love on this board, with Nvidia's new annoucements any thoughts?

:eek:


Do you have a link? That would be awesome!

[529th]

You aren't going to get far at all w/ everything on auto. Go back a few pages and look for a guide by Simps. It should help you get started.

450 is easy. 470-480 stable will take a little bit of work, but shouldn't be too much of a problem. 480+ is going to take a lot more effort to get completely stable if its even possible w/ one's particular hardware.

Your new chip might be easier to OC or more difficult. Each is different.

Could you tell me what post numbers they are. I have my max post settings to 60 in my control panel. I've looked but don't know how many pages back; also tried doing a search. Thanks in advance!

[Grnfinger]

Could you tell me what post numbers they are. I have my max post settings to 60 in my control panel. I've looked but don't know how many pages back; also tried doing a search. Thanks in advance!

What seems to be the problem??

[Tergon]

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-Intel-SLI-X58,7012.html
Last line of the main Paragraph.


:eek:


Do you have a link? That would be awesome!

[529th]

To: Grnfinger


So, i've finally tried finding the max my components will go.
custom H20 btw

Q9650 - FPO/Batch# L820B033
MIIF
DDR2 1000 2* 2x2 kit
Enermax Revolution 950

tries:
1 I've ran memtest86+ 2.11 1 pass at 500fsb 7 multi and it passed but would not boot
2 Leaving everything on auto except the fsb to 450 boots fine passes both small and large FFT's in prime 95, IBT running ATI tool (Scanning for artifacts) - vcore read 1.344 ~ 1.352
I've heard small FFTs are for CPU stability and large are more for subsystem & RAM testing more than cpu testings - is that correct?

I'm not sure about how to set my bios for 4.5Ghz - I've actually ordered another Q9650 thinking it maybe the weak link

Can I get a few suggestions from the experienced people here? Thanks

Then this:


You aren't going to get far at all w/ everything on auto. Go back a few pages and look for a guide by Simps. It should help you get started.

450 is easy. 470-480 stable will take a little bit of work, but shouldn't be too much of a problem. 480+ is going to take a lot more effort to get completely stable if its even possible w/ one's particular hardware.

Your new chip might be easier to OC or more difficult. Each is different.

[radaja]

529th,here you go.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3572470&postcount=2718

[529th]

529th,here you go.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3572470&postcount=2718

OMG, wow, thanks! :up:

[e.v.o]

So does anybody think that Asus will update firmware to enable some SLI love on this board, with Nvidia's new annoucements any thoughts?

You won't see SLI on any P45 Board. It's just as simple as it is.

[GeorgeVasil]

Hello @All:p:

CPU Clock Skew 500ps.
NB Clock Skew 600ps.

Custom W/C @ CPU/VGA/NB

~40min Dual Prime Blend..:up:

Still Testing..:D:D:D

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3666/85533th5.th.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=85533th5.jpg)

[humeyboy]

You won't see SLI on any P45 Board. It's just as simple as it is.

Say's who ?

The link seems to hint different and don't come out with this 2x8x (or 1x16x) nonsense as its PCI-E 2.0 bandwidth not PCI-E 1.0/1.1

[Grnfinger]

Say's who ?

The link seems to hint different and don't come out with this 2x8x (or 1x16x) nonsense as its PCI-E 2.0 bandwidth not PCI-E 1.0/1.1

Oh come on now, this is Toms Hardware he is quoting.
You might as well quote the Inquirer:rofl:

[humeyboy]

And ?

You think a users input here has more clout than a quote elsewhere ?

I ain't saying its happening but I will not be going by above users input anyhow.

If they can do Software SLI on other Chipsets I see no reason they cannot do it on P45.

[Grnfinger]

can and will are two very different things.....

You put your faith in Toms, I'll look elsewhere

[bito]

Something to get us back on topic Gents.....First try at 4.3Ghz :

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/v5-aps/Q96504_3ghz-1.jpg

[radaja]

"ugh oh"

[CryptiK]

Hello @All:p:

CPU Clock Skew 500ps.
NB Clock Skew 600ps.

Custom W/C @ CPU/VGA/NB

~40min Dual Prime Blend..:up:

Still Testing..:D:D:D

http://img8.imageshack.us/my.php?image=85533th5.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3666/85533th5.th.jpg

Impressive, really good work :up:


Something to get us back on topic Gents.....First try at 4.3Ghz :

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/v5-aps/Q96504_3ghz.jpg

Very nice work, looks like you're on your way to stability there :up:

[dawdaw]

Hello guys i've got an answer from the Asus french tech dept and i think i've found someone kind to deal with, my request was about pull-ins, vnb-vtt bug and some of the points listed in the thread of E.V.O, now that person is asking me to type my request in french and explain some stuff so briefly what do u wanna have in the "upcoming BIOS"?

[CryptiK]

I also have spoken to Asus Taiwan, and the person I spoke with had no idea what pull-ins even were, so you are making good progress.

Ok, what we need is:

Working phase pull-ins
Correct vNB/Vtt problem (if possible this may be a hardware level problem)
tREF setting - for better control over memory
DRAM Clock & Data drive strength settings - for better control over memory
CPU, NB and DRAM clock skew in 25ps increments (50ps if 25ps is too fine/difficult for them, but 100ps is way too coarse)


That's just to start with I could suggest a lot more options but I doubt they'd include them.

[radaja]

cryptik,always start high(more things to fix)that way after they haggle it down,you get a little more than you were expecting.hopefully.so lets get everything(all problems)in there.

[dawdaw]

Thank you CryptiK, I will try to do my best to convince that person, hope this works in the end, and if they don't care, i'm free to harass them with my requests till i become either the greatest shareholder of ASUS or the worst spammer :D

[CryptiK]

@ radaja - Yeah I agree with that, just trying to find the line between them saying "ok well do a few of those" and "they're crazy they don't need all that we wont do anything". I'm also expecting other guys to make some suggestions so I don't want to take up the whole list with only my suggestions.

I'll see what ideas other people suggest and go from there.

@dawdaw - thanks for doing this any contact with them is a positive step forward. Give it a day or so and check back to give other guys a chance to make suggestions.

Before you send the list to your contact, please PM me the list you have at that time and I may add some more to it.

[e.v.o]

If they can do Software SLI on other Chipsets I see no reason they cannot do it on P45.

I think you really don't know how this "Software SLI" works.
X58 != P45 and this also belongs on a hardware basis, because the cards "can talk over PCIe BUS" which the P45 doesn't support that way.

[529th]

So I've managed to reach 480fsb with some minor stability testing like Small & Large FFT's each 20 min and here are my settings:

400 FSB strap
1.36875 vcore
1.60600 PLL
1.36500 FSB termination
1.51075 NB

the rest like GTL etc have not been fooled with. testing IBT now, will post results (only 5 passes)

Q9650
MIIF 1901

EDIT: Failed OCCT 46 min into it

[GeorgeVasil]

I think you really don't know how this "Software SLI" works.
X58 != P45 and this also belongs on a hardware basis, because the cards "can talk over PCIe BUS" which the P45 doesn't support that way.

SLI Works on Intel Chipsets (with Nvidia 6-7 Series) with modded Drivers.

Who tells me that nvidia will not release some nice stuff, in order to make SLI work with the latest series..(8-9-GTX2XX)..on Intel Chipsets.

[Grnfinger]

I also have spoken to Asus Taiwan, and the person I spoke with had no idea what pull-ins even were, so you are making good progress.

Ok, what we need is:

Working phase pull-ins
Correct vNB/Vtt problem (if possible this may be a hardware level problem)
tREF setting - for better control over memory
DRAM Clock & Data drive strength settings - for better control over memory
CPU, NB and DRAM clock skew in 25ps increments (50ps if 25ps is too fine/difficult for them, but 100ps is way too coarse)


That's just to start with I could suggest a lot more options but I doubt they'd include them.


I salute your efforts, I gave up long ago with Asus, you might as well talk to a wall.
I doubt you'll get the tref adjustment, speaking to ket might be a better option
I'd just be happy with the pull ins working....

[CryptiK]

Well I have to try, the person I spoke to said she would pass on my request for functioning pull-ins to the relevant department, whatever that means.

I'd like the tREF setting as the Asus BIOS does not correctly set it, DFI is the only manufacturer I know who's BIOS correctly sets tREF at various ram speeds. All we can do is ask. Finer control of skews would be great for fine tuning and stepwise (example 8 steps) clock/data drive strength settings would be a great addition.

However, as you said, functioning pull-ins is the main priority; it's just ridiculous that a BIOS option like that can be broken and not function on every single BIOS ever released for the board, especially considering it's a R0G board.

[CryptiK]

Thank you CryptiK, I will try to do my best to convince that person, hope this works in the end, and if they don't care, i'm free to harass them with my requests till i become either the greatest shareholder of ASUS or the worst spammer :D

Also, it would be great if they reduced the PL you can set at every divider by 2. This would mean for example we can set PL8 using 1:1 divider, and PL6 at 5:6 divider.

Other P45 boards allow you to do this, Asus should follow suit.

[Eeky NoX]

So you had improvement for increasing memory ?? so sad to leave DDR2 like that :(

Guess I could do anynting better before I sell it :D (still prayin' xD)

[Grnfinger]

Got a nice package today.......

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0020.jpg

[529th]

Nice Grnfnger!!!

Still having trouble reaching 500fsb with 6multi with my MIIF. My Asus P5Q Premium is running 500fsb as I type this; and about an hour into Prime95 blend testing!

[Grnfinger]

Nice Grnfnger!!!

Still having trouble reaching 500fsb with 6multi with my MIIF. My Asus P5Q Premium is running 500fsb as I type this; and about an hour into Prime95 blend testing!

It is frustrating when lower priced boards are beating the MIIF.
These got me 500FSB

CPU Clock Skew : Delay 100
North Bridge Clock Skew : Delay 100

CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60600
FSBT : 1.40475
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51075
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.55300
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.20600

You will be able to lower them , I find its a great starting point and then dial down from there.
Bios 1901 or 1802 would help if your not already running it.

[529th]

It is frustrating when lower priced boards are beating the MIIF.
These got me 500FSB

CPU Clock Skew : Delay 100
North Bridge Clock Skew : Delay 100

CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60600
FSBT : 1.40475
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51075
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.55300
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.20600

You will be able to lower them , I find its a great starting point and then dial down from there.
Bios 1901 or 1802 would help if your not already running it.

Almost, hangs in windows boot

EDIT: btw, the other board is running a dual core 8400 if that makes any difference..

[jason4207]

It makes a huge difference. 500FSB w/ a duallie is easy on almost any board. 500FSB on a quad is a completely different beast.

[529th]

So we need to make sure our suggestions to the Asus Bios team include improving quad core stability over 500fsb

[GFORCE100]

So we need to make sure our suggestions to the Asus Bios team include improving quad core stability over 500fsb

I've given up dreaming on and instead take on the prudent view of how this world works, including business of which Asus is part of.

BIOS engineers are like ants in a forest, they serve their queen(s) and carry out work that she requires. In terms of Asus, unless the managers who control the BIOS teams state you should fix X, Y and Z nothing will be done by the engineers themselves as they are paid to do what they are told. It's like this in any non-flat company hierarchy.

Unfortunately, as is life, Asus is a very big player and is in fact number one when it comes to motherboard shipments. Don't forget they make boards for the OEM's as well as have different brands like Asrock. In other words, Asus ships millions of boards and the percentage of enthusiast boards is rather slim. Add to this the fact that of those who buy enthusiast boards, a small percentage too are those who are keen overclockers who really care about (and understand) the various BIOS settings, and can tell if some don't work etc.

In business, mass production, business follows the crowd. If there isn't a big enough reason to warrant investing (time is money is cost is profit/no profit) effort into task X (i.e. MFII BIOS fixes) then nothing will be done. Why spend effort X (which is cost) to only get a marginal ROI from the very few overall who are the real overclockers and thus care etc? These folks will buy the next Asus enthusiast board anyway. How Asus knows this? Business results speak for themselves, add to this that their only threat is Gigabyte, few overclockers really go for MSI. The likes of DFI is "small fish".

Of course this mindset is cruel but demand dictates supply. Small demand, no or little supply. It would take something like Intel really going for gold with its enthusiast boards and winning ground to shake the likes of Asus. Intel is fantastic for BIOS support but its boards aren't as good as Asus, and vice versa.

To put it bluntly, unfortunately Asus doesn't care what 0.25% of its enthusiast board users think or desire. In business there is a saying, only spend when necessary, and only then spend as much as necessary.

Oh and don't get me wrong, I would love for the Asus BIOS to amend its style yet in my opinion, without radical stimulation (i.e. from Intel or elsewhere - read "competition") it won't happen. Gigabyte is the same with BIOS updates so why change?

[CryptiK]

These folks will buy the next Asus enthusiast board anyway.

That's just it, there's no way I will buy another Asus board after experiencing the way they treat those who buy a 'top of the line' RoG model.

I will definitely buy either EVGA, DFI or Gigabyte. New X58 Asus boards are no good by comparison to the ones I just mentioned anyway. The company has been superseded in performance, build quality, BIOS features & support.

The P6T, P6T-D & R2E and some of the worst X58 boards available at the moment. Look at the results/features they have compared to other companies offerings.

[e.v.o]

Want some new infos on those :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up BIOSs from ASUS?

I just took a look at the ROM Modules in all new Motherboard from ASUS with ICH10(R) (X58/P45) and ALL of those BIOSs had version 8.0 (ca. 03/2008). Foxconn implements 8.5. Intel uses their newest version: 8.7. ECS is using 8.6. So what the :banana::banana::banana::banana: is wrong with those freaks at ASUS? They sell that much mainboards and aren't able to bring out some updated BIOS versions? this is the last time i bought a asus board and i will tell everyone i know not to buy their crappy hardware until they fix such little things. it's not that hard to update a PCI ROM Module inside a bios!

i updated the SATA RAID AHCI feature set in the bios: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OFJ3WHS8
maybe someone could test this one... i'm going to bed now. i don't know if it works... but i hope it will :)
maybe ket will have a look at it?

asus: SHAME ON YOU!
if you look at the boot agent you will read something like this in the code: "DEVELOPMENT BUILD - NOT FOR PRODUCTION USE!!!"

[GFORCE100]

Want some new infos on those :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up BIOSs from ASUS?

i updated the SATA RAID AHCI feature set in the bios: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OFJ3WHS8
maybe someone could test this one... i'm going to bed now. i don't know if it works... but i hope it will :)
maybe ket will have a look at it?

asus: SHAME ON YOU!
if you look at the boot agent you will read something like this in the code: "DEVELOPMENT BUILD - NOT FOR PRODUCTION USE!!!"

I tried your BIOS and all works fine - you can wake up with a smile of a job well done :) The ICH10R firmware now reports 8.5.0.1023 if I remember correctly. It also has a green line at the right when initialising with the words "* data encryption" or there abouts.

Somebody somewhere bought 4x new Seagate 7200.12 500GB drives for a speedy RAID0 but said it resulted in strange problems. Perhaps the ICH10R firmware was to blame or the drives themselves, who knows. Either way a newer firmware can't be a bad thing and since Asus couldn't do it, you had to :)

Brings back the memories of when I used to do such things back in 2000 when I had Gigabyte 6BXD and Tyan 100 motherboards. Remember how I updated the CPU microcode back then and enabled some hidden BIOS options.

[zoob]

Dunno what happened but my M2F started freaking out on me this weekend.

Played some L4D, and it started stuttering... the display driver kept failling but it'd recover. So I decided to stress test and my OC was unstable it seemed.
Then I pulled my PC out and opened it up, and it started freezing in the BIOS! I noticed the NB temps were rather high so I figured maybe my MCW60 was pulling it away from the board.

Today I rebuilt the thing, added washers to the NB, meanwhile I noticed the heat pads were leaking some kind of grease/oil all over (it looked wet). Cleaned it all up...
Seemed to work fine again, until I run a stress test for 15 min -- all temps normal but it freezes.

I pull out my LCD poster and it gets stuck on VGA BIOS. Try a PCI video card it works fine.
Move my 8800GTS into the second PCI-E slot and it works fine. Move it back to the first slot and it fails every time.

Looks like it's time for RMA :(

EDIT: It occured to me that the GPU might be half fried working only in 8X mode, so I'm gonna get another video card to test with tomorrow. :|

[xoldboyx]

It is frustrating when lower priced boards are beating the MIIF.
These got me 500FSB

CPU Clock Skew : Delay 100
North Bridge Clock Skew : Delay 100

CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60600
FSBT : 1.40475
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51075
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.55300
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.20600

You will be able to lower them , I find its a great starting point and then dial down from there.
Bios 1901 or 1802 would help if your not already running it.
How about a post with full settings :D
Anyway,this thread is really priceless to us "no-pro-o/c kers"
Currently running at 4GHZ ,about 2 months,and still no problem thanks to this thread!


also quick question,will I lose my 2 OC profiles if I updgrade to the latest BIOS?

[ViViD]

My Profile For Q9550 @ 4004Mhz 24/7 :
Just Frquence In 471Mhz And Everything Auto.....It's Stable As Rock

[jason4207]

also quick question,will I lose my 2 OC profiles if I updgrade to the latest BIOS?

No, but you don't want to use them anymore. Write down your settings, and after you change the BIOS do a clear CMOS and then re-enter all your settings manually. Then save over your old profile(s).

[e.v.o]

I tried your BIOS and all works fine - you can wake up with a smile of a job well done :) The ICH10R firmware now reports 8.5.0.1023 if I remember correctly. It also has a green line at the right when initialising with the words "* data encryption" or there abouts.

Somebody somewhere bought 4x new Seagate 7200.12 500GB drives for a speedy RAID0 but said it resulted in strange problems. Perhaps the ICH10R firmware was to blame or the drives themselves, who knows. Either way a newer firmware can't be a bad thing and since Asus couldn't do it, you had to :)

Brings back the memories of when I used to do such things back in 2000 when I had Gigabyte 6BXD and Tyan 100 motherboards. Remember how I updated the CPU microcode back then and enabled some hidden BIOS options.

YEAH! Thats great! Feels reeeeeeeeeal good to hear that! Now i need to have some newer versions of the AHCI code and some other stuff. Maybe Ket could help me a bit since the 1901 MIIF BIOS is the source for his P5Q mBIOS.

A benchmark would be nice ;)

[GFORCE100]

YEAH! Thats great! Feels reeeeeeeeeal good to hear that! Now i need to have some newer versions of the AHCI code and some other stuff. Maybe Ket could help me a bit since the 1901 MIIF BIOS is the source for his P5Q mBIOS.

A benchmark would be nice ;)

Which benchmark would this be? You want me to run HDTach again? 2x 7200.10's score about 138MB/s average read from what I remember Vs about 200-210MB/s from the newer 7200.12's.

[e.v.o]

I just made a new version with updated PXE GE (for booting from lan.. does anybody need that? :D) and v8.6.0.1007 of the ICH10R.
But this time i'm really not quite sure if it works! But thanks to the MIIFs 2 BIOSes you could test it without any trouble (i hope so :D)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YCU1B46K

[GFORCE100]

I just made a new version with updated PXE GE (for booting from lan.. does anybody need that? :D) and v8.6.0.1007 of the ICH10R.
But this time i'm really not quite sure if it works! But thanks to the MIIFs 2 BIOSes you could test it without any trouble (i hope so :D)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YCU1B46K

Another job well done it seems.

I can't test the boot from LAN since I don't use it. The latest BIOS works though, the ICH10R firmware is updated to the version stated above. No more green line pertaining to data encryption to the right anymore as in version 8.5.0.xxxxx though.

Update:
Just noticed that with the BIOS bootstrapping and thus displaying the RAID setup screen, it reports ICH9R instead of ICH10R. The system as noted above works fine though. Either a typo or you extracted the ICH9R ROM from another BIOS rather than the ICH10R ROM. I believe Intel compiled at least two versions with the correct message showing yet identical code. I doubt it's reading the name string from the south bridge.

[Simonix]

AIR:

http://forum.hwproject.net/imagehosting/thum_21544995d98a663ab.jpg ('http://forum.hwproject.net/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=6976')

[Simonix]

where are mod bios for this motherboard?

[e.v.o]

Thanks! Interesting! I will have a look at it!
Does it also display 8.5 with the other bios?

[GFORCE100]

Thanks! Interesting! I will have a look at it!
Does it also display 8.5 with the other bios?

Your original BIOS displayed ICH10R firmware version 8.5.0.xxxx
Your second BIOS displayed ICH10R firmware version 8.6.0.xxxx

xxxx is a minor revision number I can't remember off the top of my head.

Your original BIOS displayed ICH10R/DO during BIOS bootstrap. The second BIOS however as noted above, displays ICH9R.

[529th]

I hope their next bios will help stabilize my Q9650 above 500fsb

[e.v.o]

Which next BIOS? :D

--- EDIT

oh well.. wait.. "haha! got a another one" (damn,.. playing half-life since the beginng,.. i love that SP/MP)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YLN84FXP

Intel ICH10R: v8.5.0.1030 vs. v8.0.0.1038
Intel Boot Agent GE: v1.3.24 vs. v0.0.19
Marvell 88SE6121 (88SE61xx): 1.1.0.L72a vs. 1.1.0.L70d

--- EDIT 2

If you also want to update the Silicon Image SiI5723 (http://www.siliconimage.com/products/product.aspx?pid=103) on your mainboard, go to page 86 in the SiI57xx SteelVine Manager User's Guide (http://www.siliconimage.com/docs/Altair_57XX_Users_Guide_Rev_1.1.pdf).
> SiI57x3 Firmware for Upgrade by GUI 1.1576 (http://www.siliconimage.com/docs/SiI57x3_11576_forUpgradeByGUI.zip)
> SiI57xx SteelVine Manager for Windows 5.1.24B (http://www.siliconimage.com/docs/57xxSteelVine_V5.1.24B.zip)

[529th]

I can't believe you are writing Asus's Maximus II Formula bios when they should be. Monster props man!!!:up:

[GFORCE100]

Which next BIOS? :D

oh well.. wait.. "haha! got a another one" (damn,.. playing half-life since the beginng,.. i love that SP/MP)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YLN84FXP


How does this differ from the last version I tried? Looks the same except now you're going backwards with the ICH10R firmware i.e. 8.5.0.xxxx Vs 8.6.0.xxxx. Perhaps start a version numbering system to keep it obvious what's what.

[e.v.o]

jap. then call this version:
MIIF-1901-ICH10R_v8.5-PxE_v1.3.24-88SE6121_v1.1.0.L72a

i will think about it or do you have any idea? :)

[GFORCE100]

jap. then call this version:
MIIF-1901-ICH10R_v8.5-PxE_v1.3.24-88SE6121_v1.1.0.L72a

i will think about it or do you have any idea? :)

Well if you want to make a habit of modifying the BIOS then I would:

1) Make a new thread specifically devoted to MIIF Modded BIOS's
2) List the BIOS's you have made
3) Use the Asus BIOS version followed by your own revision i.e. 1901.002
4) Below every BIOS make a description of the changes made
5) Provide download link below each of your BIOS versions
6) Once done, post the link to that thread in this thread too

[radaja]

+1 on what GFORCE100 said.and only if you plan on doing this on a regular basis.that would make things simple and clean and easier to understand.

[vab206]

been awhile since ive been on xs and checked this thread, seems ive missed the coming of the savior of the m2f community!

and ya, start a thread, or even a dedicated site, this makes me happy deep deep down

[Grnfinger]

Ahh its like polishing a turd...no matter what you do to it, its still a pos

[Celcius]

Some 4Ghz action:

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1385/06rrrrr.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=06rrrrr.jpg)
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7200/32mrrrrr.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32mrrrrr.jpg)
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8017/1mrrrr.th.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1mrrrr.jpg)
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2914/am3rrrrr.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=am3rrrrr.jpg)

failed prime95 after 11.5hrs though:mad:
For 24/7 I'm still at 3.906Ghz...

[radaja]

check this out,ive got a 9650/8500 quad core processor.
http://i44.tinypic.com/66jdb4.jpg

[seba84_2005]

radaja click right mouse button on E8500 and choose uninstall, reset Your PC ;)

[radaja]

thanks already taken care of.agains thanks though.by the way,my MIIF is still for sale in the FS section its now 185$+shipping.this is a brand new board with all accessories and original packaging.PM me if interested

[e.v.o]

Well if you want to make a habit of modifying the BIOS then I would:

1) Make a new thread specifically devoted to MIIF Modded BIOS's
2) List the BIOS's you have made
3) Use the Asus BIOS version followed by your own revision i.e. 1901.002
4) Below every BIOS make a description of the changes made
5) Provide download link below each of your BIOS versions
6) Once done, post the link to that thread in this thread too

New thread is a bit over the top, don't you think?
But i like the idea, cause when there are new BIOSes, someone should test those things ...

But i think you are right,.. that this has to be done seperate... maybe this evening i will make a thread with all informations, etc.

[seba84_2005]

M2F - LC setup solution ;) Swiftech GTZ/NBMAX/ EK-Mosfet ASUS 3a.

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/seba84_2005/S5000372-1.jpg

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/seba84_2005/S5000363.jpg

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/seba84_2005/S5000367-1.jpg

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/seba84_2005/S5000366.jpg

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/seba84_2005/S5000374-2.jpg

[Grnfinger]

New thread is a bit over the top, don't you think?
But i like the idea, cause when there are new BIOSes, someone should test those things ...

But i think you are right,.. that this has to be done seperate... maybe this evening i will make a thread with all informations, etc.

Why not have the info added to the Problem/Fixes thread
3 MIIF threads is a tad much imo...
I'm sure if you ask/involve Zoob he will update the thread as needed.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=205323&highlight=Maximus+Formula

[lha]

M2F - LC setup solution ;) Swiftech GTZ/NBMAX/ EK-Mosfet ASUS 3a.

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/seba84_2005/S5000372-1.jpg

OH SHI- you sir have excellent configuration!

[bito]

Are all chipsets on MFII's still Rev.A2 ??
Don't recall seeing an A3 revision chipset yet.

[radaja]

seems to be.i have yet to see any A3.asus must have bought a butt load of these chips.

[e.v.o]

Asus bought a lot A2 but also A3. It is a mystery to my why they put A3 on P5Q boards but not on MIIF.
Only explanation to me is that they manufactured maaaaaaany MIIF.
Boards confirmed A3:
P5Q DELUXE / P5QL-E / P5Q-E / P5QL / P5Q3 DELUXE / P5Q-PRO / P5QL PRO / P5Q-EM / P5Q SE / ...
Just do a google search: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&q=site:valid.canardpc.com+asus+p45+a3&start=20&sa=N

[screwtech02]

Yeah, most of those other boards clock better, and have a better bios also...:shakes: Are CHEAPER to boot...... Go figure....:shakes:

[Simonix]

sorry, but there aren't modified bios for this motherboard?

[529th]

Yeah, my P5Q Premium will do 500fsb with a wolfie - not sure if it in my MIIF board will reach 500fsb, but will try just out of curiosity. Will post results later

[seba84_2005]

500FSB on Q9550 ;)

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/seba84_2005/score.jpg

[Simonix]

I 581.5 with the E8600 and Maximus II formula

[CryptiK]

M2F - LC setup solution ;) Swiftech GTZ/NBMAX/ EK-Mosfet ASUS 3a.

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/seba84_2005/S5000372-1.jpg

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/seba84_2005/S5000363.jpg

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/seba84_2005/S5000367-1.jpg

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/seba84_2005/S5000366.jpg

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/seba84_2005/S5000374-2.jpg

Looks good, I'd like to see what your temps look like. Not sure but it looks like you have 2 GTX280's on the board? I assume you know this and did it for photo purposes but its a crossfire board it wont run SLi.

What Ballsitix 2 x 2GB kit do you have, the tracers or tracer reds? 1130 MHz 5-4-4-12 @ 2.1v is pretty nice. What can they do at 5-5-5-15 @ 2.1v?

On a lighter note, it looks like your lounge is made by nvidia ;)


I 581.5 with the E8600 and Maximus II formula

Nice is that stable? I'd like to see what kind of FSB you can get stable with your chip, I remember its a great batch (Q822A435).

[jason4207]

Yeah, my P5Q Premium will do 500fsb with a wolfie - not sure if it in my MIIF board will reach 500fsb, but will try just out of curiosity. Will post results later

With all mobos getting high FSB is much easier w/ dual-cores. MIIF will easily get 500FSB w/ a wolfie.

Getting 500FSB w/ a quad is what is difficult on any mobo.


You cannot compare FSB results b/n duallies and quads...they are apples and oranges.

[seba84_2005]

CryptiK I have Crucial Ballistix 4GB kit BL2KIT25664AA80A

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/seba84_2005/ram.jpg

[andressergio]

Guys

A quick question, i have a raid 0 made on the MF2, i will go for the Giga P45 UD3P, do i have to build the raid again ?

Thank you :up:
Sergio

[e.v.o]

If it is on the ICH10R, then i think you don't have to do that.

[GFORCE100]

Guys

A quick question, i have a raid 0 made on the MF2, i will go for the Giga P45 UD3P, do i have to build the raid again ?

Thank you :up:
Sergio

No you won't. I've done this since the ICH5R days (2003) and you just install the new motherboard then remember to set the RAID option in your BIOS (known by different names unfortunately, but you'll find it for sure). You can always make a backup to be on the safe side. Windows will even load without re-installation unless there's a new driver issue that crops up related to other components on the new motherboard. All in all I wouldn't worry too much about this, just remember if one hard drive fails (i.e. you knock it real hard when rebuilding your PC) then all your data goes flop.

[andressergio]

Thank you e.v.o and GFORCE100 !!!

Cheers
Sergio

[SiGfever]

Hey guys,
Where is the overclocking guide by Simps on reaching 500FSB? I can't seem to find it.
Thanks.

[CryptiK]

Hey guys,
Where is the overclocking guide by Simps on reaching 500FSB? I can't seem to find it.
Thanks.

Page 109 mate.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3572470&postcount=2718

[Grnfinger]

New toy came today, first run no tweaks yet.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/FirstrunQ9650.png
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/FirstrunQ9650_3d06.jpg

[SiGfever]

Page 109 mate.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3572470&postcount=2718

Thanks Pal. :up:

[adrenaline7879]

Now that I got bored and decided to take off the heatsink from my formula to put some different paste on, and took the northbridge chip slightly off with it :( rma is otw, didnt have any trouble get that done, and finally have a reason to get me a MF2 which will be here monday. Cant wait for my MF2 to get here. Just hoped to get it under different circumstances.

[Grnfinger]

Q9650 @ 4.2GHz

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 467
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1121
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Normal
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 103

CPU Voltage : 1.3625
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56625
FSBT : 1.37825
DRAM Voltage : 1.9
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45775
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : -45mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : -45mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/Q9650_4200GHZ_prime_Stable.jpg

[radaja]

very nice grnfinger.so how are you liking it so far?

[Grnfinger]

very nice grnfinger.so how are you liking it so far?

Still tweaking, 4.2GHz was a easy goal, still testing max GHz and FSB.
Very pleased so far with the investment, grabed a Cosmos S case while I was there, it has been a fun weekend. Finally got my rad mounted inside a case!!!!

[JoeBar]

Nice clocks Grnfinger! Is it stable @ 500mhz fsb?

[xoldboyx]

500FSB on Q9550 ;)

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss89/seba84_2005/score.jpg
full setup?

I finally found some time and made the washer mod,and the temps got a lot better!
Still at max 480 FSB with ok temps (for me atleast)

[Grnfinger]

Nice clocks Grnfinger! Is it stable @ 500mhz fsb?

going to work on that today, I hope to run 500FSB 24/7

[xoldboyx]

going to work on that today, I hope to run 500FSB 24/7
keep them coming.you never fail us!
:)

[Grnfinger]

Managed to reduce my vCore for 467x9 4.2GHz

Now to work on 500FSB

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/IBT_4200_10loop.jpg

[GeorgeVasil]

@Grnfinger:Nice Work!

2 Months ++ without a new bios...Nice work ASUS.

[bito]

My last play with this 'board series....Now moved to i7 920 on REII

Q9650 @ 4.3GHz

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/v5-aps/Q96504_3ghz-1.jpg

[Grnfinger]

@Grnfinger:Nice Work!

2 Months ++ without a new bios...Nice work ASUS.

Asus is trying to fix the bugs with i7, altho the P5 just got a new bios
Last 2 emails from Asus have all been P6T and P5Q bios updates.
I hope to see a working bios to unleash the potential of this board but I'm not holding my breath.
One thing is for sure atleast Asus has been consistant on this board.

[GeorgeVasil]

Asus is trying to fix the bugs with i7, altho the P5 just got a new bios
Last 2 emails from Asus have all been P6T and P5Q bios updates.

Sounds like M2F users haven't payed for BIOS support.:p: Although ASUS pays back with 2-3 crapy bioses on a row.:D


I hope to see a working bios to unleash the potential of this board but I'm not holding my breath.
One thing is for sure atleast Asus has been consistant on this board.

Consistent ??:rofl::D

It's the first...and the last ASUS mobo i paid for.:up:

[SkOrPn]

Consistent ??:rofl::D

It's the first...and the last ASUS mobo i payed for.:up:

I think he meant Consistent, as in consistently NOT providing descent bios's, and consistently taking to long to finally provide a crappy bios. lol

[e.v.o]

For me it'll also be the last mainboard from Asus i paid for. (omg,.. is this some correct sentence? ^^)

Well,.. i just put up a new mBIOS but this one really isn't the big hit.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NYYM2S9T

I have for now two versions:
1901.1xx - only updated ROMs/µCode Updates, this is intended for stability
1901.2xx - based on 1901.1xx, tweaked a bit here and there...


=--------------------=
[ mBIOS.1901.1xx ]
=--------------------=

[ mBIOS.1901.1xx ]
------------------
No link for .1xx package


[ mBIOS.1901.101 ]
------------------
http://megaupload.com/?d=WE10MKNR

Base: mBIOS.1901.100

Updated:Intel(R) RAID for SATA: v8.6.0.1007 from v8.5.0.1030


[ mBIOS.1901.100 ]
------------------
megaupload.com/?d=16JCVX3W

Updated:Intel(R) RAID for SATA: v8.5.0.1030 from v8.0.0.1038
Intel Boot Agent GE: v1.3.24 from v0.0.19
Marvell 88SE6121 RAID: 1.1.0.L72a from 1.1.0.L70d



=--------------------=
[ mBIOS.1901.2xx ]
=--------------------=

[ mBIOS.1901.2xx ]
------------------
http://megaupload.com/?d=NYYM2S9T


[ mBIOS.1901.201 ]
------------------

Base: mBIOS.1901.200

Updated:Intel(R) RAID for SATA: v8.6.0.1007 from v8.0.0.1038
Intel Boot Agent GE: v1.3.24 from v0.0.19
Marvell 88SE6121 RAID: 1.1.0.L72a from 1.1.0.L70d


[ mBIOS.1901.200 ]
------------------

Base: Orginal Maximus II Formula BIOS: 1901

Updated:3 CPU µCodes

Changed:Some minor changes to SMBIOS
Bootlogo

Added: 2 CPU µCodes

[Kayso]

I have two HDD's on RAID0, so when I flash up to mBIOS.1901.201, will everything will working fine ?



M2F - LC setup solution ;) Swiftech GTZ/NBMAX/ EK-Mosfet ASUS 3a.

Can you please tell me, from where have you bought those parts ? And what is your complete WC setup ?

[e.v.o]

Well... i dunno xD

It's all up to you! Test it or leave it. I can't give you any guarantee it would work.

[andressergio]

Bye Asus !! I went to Gigabyte UD3P no more unstability issues...

[GFORCE100]

Well... i dunno xD

It's all up to you! Test it or leave it. I can't give you any guarantee it would work.

What's the 3x micro code update do exactly? Which CPU's does it concern?

I assume version 201 has all the benefits of 200 as this isn't clear from the above (unless my eyes are playing funny).

[Grnfinger]

500 FSB is a tough nut to crack with this new chip....

45nm quad users running FSB of 465 or higher, whats your vNB set at?

[bito]

500 FSB is a tough nut to crack with this new chip....

45nm quad users running FSB of 465 or higher, whats your vNB set at?

I only tried up 'till 478 FSB....vNB - 1.33850, with +60mV NB GTL.
Hope that helps :up:

[WhiteFireDragon]

500 FSB is a tough nut to crack with this new chip....

45nm quad users running FSB of 465 or higher, whats your vNB set at?

mine's set at 1.55v. i have not optimized or tried to find the lowest voltages yet so it probably could pass at 1.50v.

[Grnfinger]

Thanks guys, I'm running 1.45 for 500FSB so I guess more juice might be needed for a Vista boot.
My Q9550 boot'd 500FSB first try, A little frustrating but I'll get it, just hope I dont hose my OS in the process

[Robilar]

I have a gigabyte UD3P currently running my Q9650 at 9x445. It only needs 1.216 vcore under load for stability. I have a chance to get the MIIF very very cheap (basically the same as what I can sell the UD3P for).

I noticed there are number of Q9650 owners in this thread. Are there any challenges I should be aware of getting 9x445 with a quad on this board? with the UD3P, literally the only thing I had to do was change vcore and ram voltage and away it went.

I have no complaints about the UD3P but I am a bit bored and it would be nice to have actual voltage and temp sensors in NB and SB (something the UD3P lacks).

thanks

[529th]

I have a gigabyte UD3P currently running my Q9650 at 9x445. It only needs 1.216 vcore under load for stability. I have a chance to get the MIIF very very cheap (basically the same as what I can sell the UD3P for).

I noticed there are number of Q9650 owners in this thread. Are there any challenges I should be aware of getting 9x445 with a quad on this board? with the UD3P, literally the only thing I had to do was change vcore and ram voltage and away it went.

I have no complaints about the UD3P but I am a bit bored and it would be nice to have actual voltage and temp sensors in NB and SB (something the UD3P lacks).

thanks

Your Board!?!?!?! try running it at 500fsb & an 8 multi - currently as I write this reply, i am testing my Q9650 @ 1.45vcore with only 475fsb on my MIIF 1901 bios, miif sucks in comparison

[Grnfinger]

I have a gigabyte UD3P currently running my Q9650 at 9x445. It only needs 1.216 vcore under load for stability. I have a chance to get the MIIF very very cheap (basically the same as what I can sell the UD3P for).

I noticed there are number of Q9650 owners in this thread. Are there any challenges I should be aware of getting 9x445 with a quad on this board? with the UD3P, literally the only thing I had to do was change vcore and ram voltage and away it went.

I have no complaints about the UD3P but I am a bit bored and it would be nice to have actual voltage and temp sensors in NB and SB (something the UD3P lacks).

thanks


I wont tell you what I think, but 9x445 on a MIIF would be a walk in the park.
Many MIIF users have jump'd ship and went with a Rampage or a UD3P.
The MIIF is a decent board but many lesser models are beating it in terms of FSB and bandwidth.
It runs fairly cool and has superior power mangement, nice dual bios, and some great skews for high FSB stability.
What is lacks is a decent bios to unleash its full potential.
Research and ask many questions, perhaps if its a friend maybe he would let you "borrow" it for testing b4 you made the decision.

I have the same chip as you , if you would like I can run a few comparisions for you to help decide.

[humeyboy]

We know Intel is making the 775 have a bit more life due to recession and slow uptake on I7 and I5 being late but why do we get a boot to the balls and lesser models get upgraded ?


QUOTED :

" Asus presents the P5Q PRO Turbo and P5Q Turbo motherboards "



http://www.tcmagazine.info/comments.php?shownews=24958&catid=2

[e.v.o]

What's the 3x micro code update do exactly? Which CPU's does it concern?

I assume version 201 has all the benefits of 200 as this isn't clear from the above (unless my eyes are playing funny).

I don't know what they do. You will have to ask Intel or read their documents about the µCode updates they provide. I can tell you the CPUID if you want. Maybe i should put this into the "readme"?


Base: mBIOS.1901.200
yap, 201 is based on 200 with updated roms.

by the mid of the next week i will put up a complete new set of mBIOSs. maybe those will help a bit more than these did...

[GFORCE100]

I don't know what they do. You will have to ask Intel or read their documents about the µCode updates they provide. I can tell you the CPUID if you want. Maybe i should put this into the "readme"?


yap, 201 is based on 200 with updated roms.

by the mid of the next week i will put up a complete new set of mBIOSs. maybe those will help a bit more than these did...

Flashed the 201 version and it works fine.

Now, if you could only get that 8.7xxx.xxxx ICH10R/D0 firmware...

[Kayso]

500 FSB is a tough nut to crack with this new chip....

45nm quad users running FSB of 465 or higher, whats your vNB set at?

My final settings, rock stable at 8*475. I don't have time now, to play more. But this FSB, as you can see, is really easy to achieve !

My settings:


Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 475
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1140MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto

DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: Auto
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto


3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: Enabled
MEM. OC Charger: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Stronger
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 8
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.275
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.55
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.325
DRAM Voltage: 1.9375
North Bridge Voltage: 1.45
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.55
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.15

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration

Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled


I will try with e.v.o's BIOS this weekend to see, what will happen :)

[jason4207]

500 FSB is a tough nut to crack with this new chip....

45nm quad users running FSB of 465 or higher, whats your vNB set at?

I'm running 1.256v on the NB. This was almost good at 480FSB at this voltage (went over 12hrs large-fft, but then got an error), but I've since dialed it down to 471 b/c I was tired of messing w/ it (over 4 weeks). 4GHz on a quad is good enough for 24/7. Also, it was hard to get my RAM where I wanted it w/ the FSB on the ragged edge.

I can bench at 500FSB w/ 1.45vNB.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9761/x6176.jpg

[jason4207]

My final settings, rock stable at 8*475. I don't have time now, to play more. But this FSB, as you can see, is really easy to achieve !


I will try with e.v.o's BIOS this weekend to see, what will happen :)

Is that P95 large-fft stable? I had to play w/ NB GTL to get any kind of stability in large-fft above 465FSB.

[Kayso]

Is that P95 large-fft stable? I had to play w/ NB GTL to get any kind of stability in large-fft above 465FSB.

Dunno for large-fft stable, but Blend was stable for over 13 hours, so was with 20 loops of IBT and I think it is more than enough :) I want to lower my NB voltage in the future.

Here is mine 3D Mark 2006 score:
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4052/futuremark2.th.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=futuremark2.jpg)

[pphx459]

Managed to reduce my vCore for 467x9 4.2GHz

Now to work on 500FSB

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/IBT_4200_10loop.jpg

What settings did you change to lower your vcore?

[Simonix]

Be better in oc with these mBIOS ? What changes? sorry for my English ...:D

[Grnfinger]

Thanks for all the responses guys, much appreciated.



What settings did you change to lower your vcore?

NB GTL and CPU Clock Skew and NB Clock Skew allowed the volts to come down quite a bit.

[JoeBar]

NB GTL and CPU Clock Skew and NB Clock Skew allowed the volts to come down quite a bit.
Could u pls give us any more info?

[529th]

Thanks for the info Grnfinger - booted into windows but not Prime95 stable - core #1 fails within 5 seconds
MIIF 1901
2x2gb

500fsb
8 multi
cpu skew Delay 200ps
NB skew Delay 200ps
Strap 333
Dram skew ChA1 Delay 200ps
Dram skew ChA2 Delay 200ps

vcore 1.45
pll 1.6
vtt 1.33
Dram 2.1
NB 1.55

trying 1.5vcore

this is on h20 so thats why i am trying 1.5v otherwise, this is too much for 24/7 use on air...

EDIT: worker thread #2 still fails @ 1.5v

[Holy-Fire]

Not sure if I'm supposed to ask this here or on a separate thread but... I've heard about problems with the NB temperatures on this board, which can be fixed by remounting the Heatpipe assembly. Does this happen on all samples or only some? Has ASUS fixed this in newer revisions? For best overclocking results, is it recommended to remount with a better TIM even if there is no significant problem? Thanks.

[humeyboy]

The NB/SB Temps should be fine on newer samples, I have no issues and Mobo is a good few months old now.

Someone here knew the serial numbers to look for but by now you should get a good one.