ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[seban]

Today I sent back my first Mobo - I paid 36e for shipping to UK.... from Ireland. This country is unbelievable and it take more then 5 days to show up like 500km away. I would faster walk with it.

When UK is sending it to me I pay around 12e for next day courier delivery. If I would like to send it via courier I would have to pay 66e and no guarantee it will get there by tomorrow.

:rofl: I can only laugh about it, because other wise I would have to cry my eyes out ;)

[radaja]

i hear you the first board i sent,i spent 39 $ for overnight shipping to speed up the proccess. the second 10 $ ground. then when i purchased it i was so exited i paid for overnight shipping which was 38$.so all in all ive spent about 357$ for this board and ive havent really got to use it properlly.its upsetting to say the least.

[seban]

i hear you the first board i sent,i spent 39 $ for overnight shipping to speed up the proccess. the second 10 $ ground. then when i purchased it i was so exited i paid for overnight shipping which was 38$.so all in all ive spent about 357$ for this board and ive havent really got to use it properlly.its upsetting to say the least.

I prefer not to count how much I spent on it all together - I like to stay in good mood for rest of the day :)

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EDIT:

Because I am still not sure if I understand GTL correctly I took a different road for figuring out what is wrong with my 4ghz 2h small ftt stable but craping out after 2min of blend.

I started on same settings as for 4ghz but on 450 so 3.8 and GTLs on Auto and uppin by 5 and testing blend and linx so 450->455->460 and so on.

Now question is - is 5 passes of linpack ok for assuming it is stable enough to go further?

[Rocks]

I would say no to that seban. I have done 5 passes and passed then failed 10. Also make sure it is on maximum stress. I think 20 passes should be good. It tests it enough times so that it will increase the chance of a number being different. The fewer times you test the lower chance you have of any numbers being different and it can give you a false positive.

[SkOrPn]

Thanks for the reply George, I will give that a try. Im also going to try these settings as well.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showpost.php?p=3469516&postcount=2112

Posted early on but I missed it....

[seban]

I would say no to that seban. I have done 5 passes and passed then failed 10. Also make sure it is on maximum stress. I think 20 passes should be good. It tests it enough times so that it will increase the chance of a number being different. The fewer times you test the lower chance you have of any numbers being different and it can give you a false positive.

YEah you r right. 5 linpack is too little as I just discovered. 450 which passed 5 linpacks now is giving me errors.

[cstkl1]

I prefer not to count how much I spent on it all together - I like to stay in good mood for rest of the day :)

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EDIT:

Because I am still not sure if I understand GTL correctly I took a different road for figuring out what is wrong with my 4ghz 2h small ftt stable but craping out after 2min of blend.

I started on same settings as for 4ghz but on 450 so 3.8 and GTLs on Auto and uppin by 5 and testing blend and linx so 450->455->460 and so on.

Now question is - is 5 passes of linpack ok for assuming it is stable enough to go further?

4gb min 15passes
2gb min 50 pases
basically complete atleast an hour

[Grnfinger]

50 passes of linpak is unnecessary , the only thing you will accomplish is killing your hardware.

[radaja]

even though my temps are good im still nervous running linpack more than ten passes,the most ive run orthos was three hrs and then i stopped it.i dont know how people are able to run it overnight.while mine is running,im always keeping a close eye on it.maybe i just dont have guts to push it to hard.

[GeorgeVasil]

50 passes of linpak is unnecessary , the only thing you will accomplish is killing your hardware.

+1

Personally i use linpack for a quick CPU stability only,Because with linpack rams are not used @100% especially if u use 4GB or a non 64bit OS.

4-6h 2ple prime blend is more accurate than >all.

My 2 cent.

[JoeBar]

Personally i use linpack for a quick CPU stability only.
I too agree on that. Running 50 passes is a total wasted of power...

[seban]

EDIT - not important any more.

[SiGfever]

I do two hours Prime95 blend and if it passes I run WCG "Boinc" overnight to finish testing.

[seban]

I know about and also I experienced it myself that vNB-Vtt>1.xx V depending on FSB.

But did any of you noticed what is happening to me right now. So the higher I go with FSB the bigger and almost maximum difference must be between vNB and Vtt. Otherwise my Vist will tear when moving windows around and fore example in core temp FSB field will flicker.

So windows tearing is happening. To prevent it I have to pump vNB almost to its maximum allowed by current Vtt.

It is early observation as I am running v high voltage ATM I will tweak them down once I achieve stability - maybe lowering voltages will have influence on this strange behaviour.

Anybody with same experience?
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EDIT - day after ;): so quiet here today nobody is writing anything, I start to feel lonely with my problems :D

[ViViD]

Hi
1 Question:
Why I Don't Get Over 490 FSB With My Q9550
Any Voltage Any Disable/Enabled I Can't Get 500*6 For Example
Any 1 Could Get Me Current Setting For Find Max FSB On This Board?
Sorry For My Broken ENG

[seban]

hmm I was playing recently with GTL witch made me stable 10pases of Linpack and around 1h of Blend on 3.97ghz and I stopped because it was late but it looked like 4ghz is just there after another 5mins of tweaking.

Yesterday with same same settings I was not stable at 3.97 :O hmm crashing after 2-3mins of blend :confused:.

Anybody had issues like this? One day stable other not? All temps were in acceptable range around 50 for NB and SB and 47 for Power so I would not say they are the factor here - but I might be mistaken.

If in your case dear reader ;) you never had situation like this on MF2 (one day stable other not) then also pls write as it is same importance info to me as if some one had same funny acting from Mobo.

Any input is welcome.

[The Water Dog]

Hi
1 Question:
Why I Don't Get Over 490 FSB With My Q9550
Any Voltage Any Disable/Enabled I Can't Get 500*6 For Example
Any 1 Could Get Me Current Setting For Find Max FSB On This Board?
Sorry For My Broken ENG

Becouse 490 is good when you use a quad, my max is 485 with Q6600( not much tweaking )

[GeorgeVasil]

Guyz should i put washers everywhere or only to the NB area?:D:p:

[seban]

Guyz should i put washers everywhere or only to the NB area?:D:p:

I have better resolute with washers under every screw - but effects may differ depending on craftsmanship of your cooling. Mine is obviously crapy so when I was putting washers only under NB it was warping my Mobo even more then it is warped now (with washer under all screws) - and it is warped pretty badly.

Also because of less warping done the temps are better on some sensors (in compare to only NB washer mod). And way better then without any washers.

So in conclusion if your Mobo is straight as arrow without washers you can go for only NB washer mod and see what happens. If it is already warped in Power section around CPU socket then I would start from washer under all screws.

But best way is to try both ways IMHO :) and see what works best for you.

Hope it helps :D

[GeorgeVasil]

I have better resolute with washers under every screw - but effects may differ depending on craftsmanship of your cooling. Mine is obviously crapy so when I was putting washers only under NB it was warping my Mobo even more then it is warped now (with washer under all screws) - and it is warped pretty badly.

Also because of less warping done the temps are better on some sensors (in compare to only NB washer mod). And way better then without any washers.

OK M8 thanks for the answer.

I will try to put everywhere.;)

[seban]

OK M8 thanks for the answer.

I will try to put everywhere.;)

One more thing I was also experimenting with 1mm steel washers for all screws and 2mm silicon for NB ones :) but still best results for my Mobo gave me same washer for each screw out there (in my case 2mm silicon ones).

[ViViD]

Hi Thanx M8
Could U Get Me Current Setting About X6 Multiplier CPU(Ratio CMOS Setting) With Max FSB On Q9550
Maybe I Cant Find Max FSB On MF2 With Quad??
I Cant Get Over 490 Too!!!

[bito]

Has anyone tried 1802 bios ?

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/asus/mb/socket775/Maximus_II_Formula/Maximus-II-ASUS-Formula-1802.zip

[NazGulPRB]

Yes. Fixes Multiplier bug (on my Q6600)

[seban]

Yes. Fixes Multiplier bug (on my Q6600)

And pull ins ? are they working?

[Deboyzfun]

i think 1307, still the best, 1802 is better than others, multi switched twice on me when i overclocked at high rates, i also think a little better band with, seems to boot faster.

[CryptiK]

i think 1302, still the best, 1802 is better than others, multi switched twice on me when i overclocked at high rates, i also think a little better band with, seems to boot faster.

Do you mean the multiplier changed itself when you were overclocked in windows, or it did not boot at what you set it to in BIOS?

Anyone done an everest bandwidth/latency comparison at the same settings with 1307 vs 1802?

[Ourasi]

hmm I was playing recently with GTL witch made me stable 10pases of Linpack and around 1h of Blend on 3.97ghz and I stopped because it was late but it looked like 4ghz is just there after another 5mins of tweaking.

Yesterday with same same settings I was not stable at 3.97 :O hmm crashing after 2-3mins of blend :confused:.

Anybody had issues like this? One day stable other not? All temps were in acceptable range around 50 for NB and SB and 47 for Power so I would not say they are the factor here - but I might be mistaken.

If in your case dear reader ;) you never had situation like this on MF2 (one day stable other not) then also pls write as it is same importance info to me as if some one had same funny acting from Mobo.

Any input is welcome.

Have experienced this issue, and found out after alot of testing that the CPU just is on the border of what it can take. My Q9550 was seemingly stable at 3.83ghz at 1,375v even 10runs of Linpack64 with 8gb ram, next reboot and it would not even be stable in ventrilo or general low power usage.
Backing it down to 3.7ghz fixed it permanently, and adding volt to the CPU@3.83ghz did not fix it, neither did adding NB/FSB volts to the m/b. My M2F seems to show the same instability on all quads at or around 450fsb, so I have given up on high FSB for 24/7 usage..

If adding volt to the CPU still produces instability, you could be seeing the end of the line for this chip, and if it's the FSB that causes the problems there is still possible tweaking left, but it might be a loong road ahead. I would suggest that you back off 100mhz or so, since trying to get it stable above the FSB/Mhz wall you are hitting might not be worth the hassle... Mine seemed better on 1:1 setting, but not not quite perfect there either....

I got hold of a very good QX9650@Q9550 price, and are now easily doing 4.0ghz 24/7 with 1.320v load with silent aircooling, I might go for more speed later if I can get hold of a "Ultra Kaze" at 1000-3000rpm, since this chip can reach 4.5-4.6ghz on air (allthough hotter then hell @ these clocks).
4.2ghz is the 24/7 target, as it needs around 1.40v for linpack stability, but for now 4.0ghz at very nice temps and silence, will do me just fine...

[GeorgeVasil]

Washers Mode ON..

:gay:

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg170/GeorgeVasil/no_washers.jpghttp://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg170/GeorgeVasil/washers.jpg

[CryptiK]

Much better George, good work. Made a big difference to my board too.

[GeorgeVasil]

Thanks Cryptik..:cool:

I forgot to mention that i use a BTX case...!

[Eeky NoX]

Yeah quiet better like that m8...+1 for the WasherMod \o/

But don't care about that honnestly : what's up wit this MF bios men ?? Are we arrived at the end of the tunnel or what Cryptic ?

Gat my 12gb of DDR2 tomorow, so if it works for the bw : I'm buyin' :D

[Grnfinger]

BIOS 1802

Lock'd multi ---FIXED
tREF --- 4174 :down:
Pull Ins --- still not working
Bandwidth --- unchanged altho my copy speed is up about 300mb/s

Seems Asus is making very very slow progress, new bios is stable and is supposed to offer us quad owners alittle more stability, so for those with troubles trying to get a chip stable try this bios.
Pull-Ins still do not work, tREF is unlikely to change for ram compatibility, seems to boot faster altho I did not time it, I have 1307 on bios 1 and 1802 on bios 2 so maybe later I will measure boot time. Going to try and lower volts now will edit and update this post if I can run lower on any setting.

1307

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/bios1307.png

1802

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/bios1802.png

[ThugsRook]

Washers Mode ON...
thx for the washer mod results :yepp:

my stupid P5Q doesnt report temps so its interesting for me to finally see them :shakes:

[N3it1]

I should be getting this mobo tomorrow,whats the best bios for my Q9300?Im running 4x1gb corsair 800mhz DDR2 (maybe this effects the bios choice?)
I have read that the latest ones aint too shabby but cant find the one you guys preferred.

[JoeBar]

Washers Mode ON..

:gay:

Very nice George! Seems that washers did the job. :)
Seems like my board should also benefit from them but there's no way i'm unistalling it... :p:


BIOS 1802

Lock'd multi ---FIXED
tREF --- 4174 :down:
Pull Ins --- still not working
Bandwidth --- unchanged altho my copy speed is up about 300mb/s

Seems Asus is making very very slow progress, new bios is stable and is supposed to offer us quad owners alittle more stability, so for those with troubles trying to get a chip stable try this bios.
Pull-Ins still do not work, tREF is unlikely to change for ram compatibility, seems to boot faster altho I did not time it, I have 1307 on bios 1 and 1802 on bios 2 so maybe later I will measure boot time. Going to try and lower volts now will edit and update this post if I can run lower on any setting.
Thanks for sharing your findings m8! :)
I believe that the major bugs like vtt/vnb and pcie are still there...?

[Grnfinger]

Thanks for sharing your findings m8! :)
I believe that the major bugs like vtt/vnb and pcie are still there...?

I will try to confirm this shortly

[JoeBar]

I will try to confirm this shortly
Thanks m8! Waiting for your findings...

[dawdaw]

Hi all, just got my M2F a week ago and it's running fine till now, i wanted a A3 revision but couldn't resist, so now i'm a happy camper with A2, temps are correct and the Leds remind me of carnavals. once again Thanks CryptiK and all members in here for this great thread. :)

[seban]

Have experienced this issue, and found out after alot of testing that the CPU just is on the border of what it can take. My Q9550 was seemingly stable at 3.83ghz at 1,375v even 10runs of Linpack64 with 8gb ram, next reboot and it would not even be stable in ventrilo or general low power usage....

Thanks for info. I bumped volts and it is stable again at 3.97ghz. Degradation or lucky 10 linpacks and 1h Prime Blend on lower voltage day before?

Anyway can't get it stable at 4ghz so far. Will test today 1802 bios maybe it will change something.

Also what voltage is considered safe for 24/7 q9550 in stress on Air? I read something about 1.365 which I am currently on :D

[Grnfinger]

Thanks m8! Waiting for your findings...

I cant get the vtt nb hang to happen...could someone else test this

PCIE will boot till 106 then no post @ 475FSB ... could others test this as well

[seban]

I cant get the vtt nb hang to happen...could someone else test this

PCIE will boot till 106 then no post @ 475FSB ... could others test this as well

That sounds v nice. I will test vtt vNB gap and also PCIe once I get home.

[ViViD]

Hi

http://i33.tinypic.com/vdjrc.jpg

But Is Not Stable

[TouGe]

BIOS 1802

Lock'd multi ---FIXED
tREF --- 4174 :down:
Pull Ins --- still not working
Bandwidth --- unchanged altho my copy speed is up about 300mb/s

Seems Asus is making very very slow progress, new bios is stable and is supposed to offer us quad owners alittle more stability, so for those with troubles trying to get a chip stable try this bios.
Pull-Ins still do not work, tREF is unlikely to change for ram compatibility, seems to boot faster altho I did not time it, I have 1307 on bios 1 and 1802 on bios 2 so maybe later I will measure boot time. Going to try and lower volts now will edit and update this post if I can run lower on any setting.


Thanks for the info. This will be the first new BIOS I've tried since 1307, looking forward to giving it a whirl.

[radaja]

does any one know if there is any maxII rev A3 yet? just noticed that there sending out A3 P5Q-deluxes.

[Grnfinger]

Changelog 1802

1. Add "Intel(R) C-STATE tech" item
2. Revise CPU Speed when "Ai Overclock Tuner" is "Auto"
3. Fix MultiBug
4. Fix CoreCountNumber
5. Fix Intel 45nm Quad Core CPU ustability issue
6. Fix show wrong Vcore in AI Suite
7. Fix it take too many time to detect SATA Device under AHCI Mode

[andressergio]

Changelog 1802

1. Add "Intel(R) C-STATE tech" item
2. Revise CPU Speed when "Ai Overclock Tuner" is "Auto"
3. Fix MultiBug
4. Fix CoreCountNumber
5. Fix Intel 45nm Quad Core CPU ustability issue
6. Fix show wrong Vcore in AI Suite
7. Fix it take too many time to detect SATA Device under AHCI Mode

what was this issue ?
5. Fix Intel 45nm Quad Core CPU ustability issue

[JoeBar]

Changelog 1802

1. Add "Intel(R) C-STATE tech" item
2. Revise CPU Speed when "Ai Overclock Tuner" is "Auto"
3. Fix MultiBug
4. Fix CoreCountNumber
5. Fix Intel 45nm Quad Core CPU ustability issue
6. Fix show wrong Vcore in AI Suite
7. Fix it take too many time to detect SATA Device under AHCI Mode

Items 1 and 2 are included in the changelog of 1702 bios.

Items 5,6 and 7 are included in the changelog of 1602 bios.


Is this the true changelog of 1802 bios or asus is playing with us...? :D

[Grnfinger]

this is quoted from Asus forums

[unex|st]

I've just flashed the new 1802 bios and I can confirm it is booting much faster now.
Memory performance is exactly the same as 1307 and wrong multiplier issue at power on is still present (resetting the system will apply the correct multiplier).
All SATA ports seem to be working correctly (using 1x raid0 array and 2x raid1 arrays)

1307
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6268/1307du1.th.png (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1307du1.png)

1802
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7541/1802kj2.th.png (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1802kj2.png)

BIOS settings


Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.0
FSB Frequency : 400 MHz
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
North Bridge Clock Skew : Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400 MHz
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066 MHz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Delay 100pS
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Auto
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advance 100pS
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 7
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 5
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : Auto
MEM OC Charger : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Lighter
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled


PCIE Frequency : 100

CPU Voltage : 1.375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
FSBT : 1.10
DRAM Voltage : 1.97
North Bridge Voltage : 1.139
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.50
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.10

CPU GTL Reference 0 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 2 : Auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference : Auto

Load Line Calibration : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[andressergio]

Guys i flashed to 1802 bios and i want to go back to 1307 but none of my pen drives can bee ssen now, i formated them again on both vista and xp and bios 1802 says "unable to load ...."

how to go back ?

Cheers
Sergio

[SiGfever]

Yep, three hundred dollar board and a five dollar bios. :shakes:

New motto..."Sucky Bios * Heart Cringing"

[kwalker]

Guys i flashed to 1802 bios and i want to go back to 1307 but none of my pen drives can bee ssen now, i formated them again on both vista and xp and bios 1802 says "unable to load ...."

how to go back ?

Cheers
Sergio
did you try to burn the rom file to a cd?
Maybe that will work

[kwalker]

Yep, three hundred dollar board and a five dollar bios. :shakes:

New motto..."Sucky Bios * Heart Cringing"

I don't recall Asus having so many bad Bois's until lately and now they cant get any of them right on this board :D

[SiGfever]

I don't recall Asus having so many bad Bois's until lately and now they cant get any of them right on this board :D

I have been a long time loyal Asus person. But this board has left me feeling less than impressed. I know next time if a new platform is just around the corner I will not invest in a high end board when a $130.00 board can outperform this one.

[radaja]

doesnt asus have some kind of forum? if so maybe we could all go there and post post post about getting the bios for the maximusII right

[SiGfever]

doesnt asus have some kind of forum? if so maybe we could all go there and post post post about getting the bios for the maximusII right

http://support.asus.com/default.aspx?SLanguage=en-us

[kwalker]

I have been a long time loyal Asus person. But this board has left me feeling less than impressed. I know next time if a new platform is just around the corner I will not invest in a high end board when a $130.00 board can outperform this one.

The only reason I purchased this board is because my Q9550 wouldn't budge on the Maximus Formula but flys on the Maximus II.
I miss cross firing on dual 16X lanes.
Your right about the lack of effort or misguided effort in the support department.
I don't think I'm ready for the 135.00 board though. :D
Maybe I'm just stubborn but this board has enough to hold its own with the quads if Asus would just wake up and smell the coffee.:mad:

[radaja]

well i started a new thread over in the asus forums in the maximus II section titled bios support,feel free to add some your own thoughts in there.

[screwtech02]

Not like ANYONE from Asus actually pays attention to their own forums Radaja, but there is always hope......:up:

[radaja]

i know. but like you said we can hope.

[philbrown23]

what is the best bios to use on this board?? 1606 will not finish post when in raid mode it hangs on sata detection

[SkOrPn]

I'm thinking the best bios hasn't been created yet... lol

[philbrown23]

ok lemme re-word that, what bios works with raid enabled? 1606 does not.

[SkOrPn]

ok lemme re-word that, what bios works with raid enabled? 1606 does not.
I'm on 1307 with raid 0 on the ich. I think most here will agree 1307 is best so far... But only flash after you have set everything to default in the bios.

[CryptiK]

Guys i flashed to 1802 bios and i want to go back to 1307 but none of my pen drives can bee ssen now, i formated them again on both vista and xp and bios 1802 says "unable to load ...."

how to go back ?

Cheers
Sergio

Try a CD and try your C:/ drive. If that doesn't work I'll talk to you on msn mate.


what is the best bios to use on this board?? 1606 will not finish post when in raid mode it hangs on sata detection

1307 is the best BIOS so far based on everyone's reported experiences. I'm not going to upgrade from 1307 unless they bring out a BIOS that addresses the current issues at hand.

[Kayso]

I have flashed to the last one 1802. Until now, no problems. Everything run perfect at 7*500 with my CPU and my system. Most interesting is, that i didn't have any problems with my mobo until now. Very nice speeds, very nice overclock, very stable :shrug:

Here is an old shot with BIOS 0701:
http://kayso.hit.bg/7_500.jpg

I will make some new tonight and post them.

I managed to do almost 1200 Mhz with my DDR2 set and it was stable over 3 hours of testing, but I don't like such high Mhz for 24/7.

I want to ask, about this new sound driver ? Somebody know anything about it ? The Creative one is not on the asus site any more.

[Grnfinger]

Can someone actually post a reason for issue with bios 1802.
I have ran it for 2 days with NO issues, prime, IBT and gaming are all smooth.
Just watch'd a blue ray movie last night , play'd flawless

I find it a decent bios, so far the best since 1307


Guys i flashed to 1802 bios and i want to go back to 1307 but none of my pen drives can bee ssen now, i formated them again on both vista and xp and bios 1802 says "unable to load ...."

how to go back ?

Cheers
Sergio

Make your usb drive bootable and load AFUDOS use the /pbnc /n switches and it will flash

[N3it1]

Processor: E8400 E0
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 500
CPU Clock Skew: Delay 300ps (This Gave me more stability at the same vCore - - Thanks CryptiK)
NB Clock Skew: Delay 400ps (This Gave me more stability at the same vNB - Thanks CryptiK)
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto (For Now)

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: Auto (For now)
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.341 (Droops to 1.336 under Load)
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.16625
DRAM Voltage: 1.9
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.54
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.12 (Those because i have Raid)

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1):-30mv (This means 0.64x anything else at tha 0.61x - 0.67x Range cause prime to stop)
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3):-30mv
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto


CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

I tried those settings with multiplier 7.5 with FSB 440 for my Q9300,ended up getting bad vista installment + no hope to login in windows.Is my Q9300 Really this bad that it wont go anywhere without settings being auto or over 3.3?
I tried those settings with bumbed values,no go. This really is disturbing me.
I got 280GTX,4x1gb DDR2 800Mhz corsair,750W P&C Silencer Quad,Q9300,M2F mobo with bios 1802 and Vista ultimate.
Any help would be appreciated.

[philbrown23]

k will try 1306

[CryptiK]

Processor: E8400 E0



Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 500
CPU Clock Skew: Delay 300ps (This Gave me more stability at the same vCore - - Thanks CryptiK)
NB Clock Skew: Delay 400ps (This Gave me more stability at the same vNB - Thanks CryptiK)
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto (For Now)

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: Auto (For now)
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.341 (Droops to 1.336 under Load)
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.16625
DRAM Voltage: 1.9
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.54
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.12 (Those because i have Raid)

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1):-30mv (This means 0.64x anything else at tha 0.61x - 0.67x Range cause prime to stop)
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3):-30mv
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto


CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

I tried those settings with multiplier 7.5 with FSB 440 for my Q9300,ended up getting bad vista installment + no hope to login in windows.Is my Q9300 Really this bad that it wont go anywhere without settings being auto or over 3.3?
I tried those settings with bumbed values,no go. This really is disturbing me.
I got 280GTX,4x1gb DDR2 800Mhz corsair,750W P&C Silencer Quad,Q9300,M2F mobo with bios 1802 and Vista ultimate.
Any help would be appreciated.

Maybe try and increase your vdimm to 2.0 - 2.1v (whats your ram rated at?) that may help. Corsair ram is usually binned pretty tightly so they may not overclock very far, but I don't have any experience with them so I can't say for sure.

[N3it1]

Here is screenshot of my settings now. Everything else is auto from bios except FSB and multiplier which are 440x7.5

http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=3228270.jpg

http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00920/3228270.jpg (http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=3228270.jpg)

[CryptiK]

N3it1 - try this:

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 7.5x
FSB Frequency: 440
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-880MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 16
Read to PRE Delay : 6
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.34375
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.25
DRAM Voltage: 2.0 - 2.1v (what is you ram rated at?)
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): +50mv
CPU GTL Reference (1): +10mv
CPU GTL Reference (2): +50mv
CPU GTL Reference (3): +10mv

NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto


CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 7.5
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[N3it1]

Ok thanks im gonna try that since it threw bluescreen at my even with auto settings :/

[CryptiK]

Can anyone confirm/deny that EZ-Flash is broken in the 1802 BIOS?

[powellandy]

Processor: E8400 E0
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 500
CPU Clock Skew: Delay 300ps (This Gave me more stability at the same vCore - - Thanks CryptiK)
NB Clock Skew: Delay 400ps (This Gave me more stability at the same vNB - Thanks CryptiK)
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto (For Now)

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: Auto (For now)
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 10
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.341 (Droops to 1.336 under Load)
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.16625
DRAM Voltage: 1.9
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.54
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.12 (Those because i have Raid)

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1):-30mv (This means 0.64x anything else at tha 0.61x - 0.67x Range cause prime to stop)
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3):-30mv
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto


CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

I tried those settings with multiplier 7.5 with FSB 440 for my Q9300,ended up getting bad vista installment + no hope to login in windows.Is my Q9300 Really this bad that it wont go anywhere without settings being auto or over 3.3?
I tried those settings with bumbed values,no go. This really is disturbing me.
I got 280GTX,4x1gb DDR2 800Mhz corsair,750W P&C Silencer Quad,Q9300,M2F mobo with bios 1802 and Vista ultimate.
Any help would be appreciated.

I would try with FSB term voltage around 1.25. I am currently running 450MHz Q9300 with specs below (I also have NB skew on delay 100ps, my CPU GTLs are Auto/-40/Auto/-40 and NB GTL is +50 and performance level is 8). It is stable for Linpack (x64) 20 times and OCCT for 8h+.

Also agree with CryptiK about the RAM - I had some 800MHz RAM before that would never really pass 850 so 1000 is perhaps optimistic.

Andy

[SiGfever]

The only reason I purchased this board is because my Q9550 wouldn't budge on the Maximus Formula but flys on the Maximus II.
I miss cross firing on dual 16X lanes.
Your right about the lack of effort or misguided effort in the support department.
I don't think I'm ready for the 135.00 board though. :D
Maybe I'm just stubborn but this board has enough to hold its own with the quads if Asus would just wake up and smell the coffee.:mad:
I too think that this board could really shine if the engineers would only make the bios options (all of them) work. My biggest fear as stated is that we were too close to i7 and that is where their brightest engineers are.

With companies trying to get leaner and cross-train their people I fear that Asus assigned us the janitorial squad. :D

[Nunzi]

The only reason I purchased this board is because my Q9550 wouldn't budge on the Maximus Formula but flys on the Maximus II.
I miss cross firing on dual 16X lanes.
Your right about the lack of effort or misguided effort in the support department.
I don't think I'm ready for the 135.00 board though. :D
Maybe I'm just stubborn but this board has enough to hold its own with the quads if Asus would just wake up and smell the coffee.:mad:

What he said but with a q9650

[philbrown23]

no matter what bios i use 1606, 1307, 1307 ket modded, or the 1802's it still hangs if I set it to raid, WTF that means my raid setup is gone, man this board is a heap.

[Grnfinger]

no matter what bios i use 1606, 1307, 1307 ket modded, or the 1802's it still hangs if I set it to raid, WTF that means my raid setup is gone, man this board is a heap.

Thats strange, I run raid0 and dont have issues on 1307 or new 1802.
I find 1802 rather decent so far, cant get volts lower but its a solid stable bios for me and my hardware. Others are complaining but dont provide any info about there problems:rolleyes:

[seban]

Hi,

Few days ago I had my 9550 on 465 (3.95ghz) 45min blend and 10 linpacks (2.5gb) stable on 1.35 vcore.

Then I had one day break of OC and after that not even close to stable at same settings. After fiddling with settings (mostly GTLs) for last 3 days I gave up stabling 465.

I know too little about correct order of increasing various Voltages. I went back today to 460mhz and made it stable on those settings (2h blend + 10 linpack):

Ai Overclock Tuner m
OC fom CPU lvl up a
Ratio CMOS setting 8.5
FSB Frequency 460
CPU Clock Skew normal
NB Clock Skew normal
FSB Strap to NB 333
DRAM Frequency 921
DRAM CLK Skew to Channel A1 a
DRAM CLK Skew to Channel A2 a
DRAM CLK Skew to Channel B1 a
DRAM CLK Skew to Channel B2 a
Dram Timing Control m

1st inforamtion m 5-5-5-15-5-55-8-5

2nd information a

3rd information a

Dram Static Read Control d
Dram Static Training d
Mem. OC Charger e
Ai Clock Twist Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster m

PCIe frequency 102

Cpu Voltage 1.36875
CPU PPL Voltage 1.53975
FSB Termination Voltage 1.3385
DRAM Voltage 2.10475
NB V 1.40475
SB 1.5 V 1.5
SB 1.1 V 1.1
GTL REF 0.9/0.9+
CPU GTL Reference 0 50
CPU GTL Reference 1 10
CPU GTL Reference 2 50
CPU GTL Reference 3 10
NB GTKL a
DDR2 ChA a
DDR2 ChB a
NB DDR Reference a

CPU Config
Ratio Cmos Setting 8.5x
C1E Support d
Max CPUID Value Limit d
Intel ® Virtualization Tec d
CPU TM Function d
Execute Disable Bit d

Load Line Calibration e
CPU Spread Spectrum d
PCIE Spread Spectrum d

I tested virtually every setting for GTLref and 465mhz. I tested all options from voltages bracket 0.8v to 0.85v and 0.9v to 0.99v (the snapiest system I got from around 0.95 to 0.99) so I am pretty sure GTLrefs are not the problem but some voltages or combination of voltages. Also when GTLrefs are around 0.95 - 0.99 on 465 it would pass 1h blend but will crap out at linpack at around 4 pass (too little vcore or vtt?)

Also my CPU with GTLrefs set to auto is dropping Blend after 30sec starting from 440 mhz+.

So which voltage would you up first in my case to get it stable on 465? and which next after first one I need some pattern to fallow as I am to chaotic :D

oh yes I almost forgot mostly core 0 and 1 are dropping all the time ...

PS. my voltages are no were near to optimum as did not yet optimized them I just wanted to stabilize it somewhere.
PS2. On same settings (gtls changed to 70 30 70 30) but 465 will pass 10 linpacks but will fail core 0 after 12min and core 1 after 2 :D

[philbrown23]

when I set it to raid it just hangs on "detecting sata port 1" thats it.

[andressergio]

Hi,

Few days ago I had my 9550 on 465 (3.95ghz) 45min blend and 10 linpacks (2.5gb) stable on 1.35 vcore.

Then I had one day break of OC and after that not even close to stable at same settings. After fiddling with settings (mostly GTLs) for last 3 days I gave up stabling 465.

I know too little about correct order of increasing various Voltages. I went back today to 460mhz and made it stable on those settings (2h blend + 10 linpack):



Same here mate...I had 3 stables OC, then one day i benched with safe voltages and now won't pass any of them...start messing with gtls and get again stable on the 445x9...today again won't pass...

[kwalker]

With companies trying to get leaner and cross-train their people I fear that Asus assigned us the janitorial squad. :D

:rofl:
I'll take that janitorial job :D
I could probably do a better job and I know absolutely squat about bios code :ROTF:

[SkOrPn]

Thats strange, I run raid0 and dont have issues on 1307 or new 1802.
I find 1802 rather decent so far, cant get volts lower but its a solid stable bios for me and my hardware. Others are complaining but dont provide any info about there problems :rolleyes:

Grnfinger, can you verify EZ Flash is working on 1802 please? I don't want to burn a disk or go digging in the closet for a floppy if I need to flash back to 1307.

Thanks

[64dragon]

i'm still running bios 802 that my board shipped with and not had any problems, is there reason for me to move up to 1307 or 1802?



I tested virtually every setting for GTLref and 465mhz. I tested all options from voltages bracket 0.8v to 0.85v and 0.9v to 0.99v (the snapiest system I got from around 0.95 to 0.99) so I am pretty sure GTLrefs are not the problem but some voltages or combination of voltages. Also when GTLrefs are around 0.95 - 0.99 on 465 it would pass 1h blend but will crap out at linpack at around 4 pass (too little vcore or vtt?)

Also my CPU with GTLrefs set to auto is dropping Blend after 30sec starting from 440 mhz+.

So which voltage would you up first in my case to get it stable on 465? and which next after first one I need some pattern to fallow as I am to chaotic :D

oh yes I almost forgot mostly core 0 and 1 are dropping all the time ...

PS. my voltages are no were near to optimum as did not yet optimized them I just wanted to stabilize it somewhere.
PS2. On same settings (gtls changed to 70 30 70 30) but 465 will pass 10 linpacks but will fail core 0 after 12min and core 1 after 2 :D

with Orthos or prime95, run small FFT's to see if the cpu can handle that speed/vcore. then go to large FFT's, depending on what test fails you can find out what voltage to raise

1024 - increase VTT or vNB
896 or 448 - vNB
768, 512, 332 - VTT


Grnfinger, can you verify EZ Flash is working on 1802 please? I don't want to burn a disk or go digging in the closet for a floppy if I need to flash back to 1307.

Thanks

the board does have 2 bios chips and a switch allowing you to choose what one to boot from. keep one chip with your current settings on 1307 and flash the other to 1802, if 1802 is bad flip the bios switch and you can run off 1307 again.

[SkOrPn]

True, but I was using bios 2 as the default bios the board came with and flashing bios 1 with all these newer versions. But you made a good point I could just easily boot to bios 2 if needed and re-flash what ever bios I want back to bios 1. Thanks for reminding me.

Oh and I went a head and flashed 1802 and its true the EZ Flash and OC Profile pages do not see my usb flash drives... weird... BUT, the bios is MUCH faster booting up. Have not tried any oc's yet...

[dctokyo]

Oh and I went a head and flashed 1802 and its true the EZ Flash and OC Profile pages do not see my usb flash drives... weird... BUT, the bios is MUCH faster booting up. Have not tried any oc's yet...

Hi guys.... what you need to do is to make sure that you do a full CMOS clear before you flash with 1802. After you do a full CMOS clear it will see your USB drives.

I had the same problem with EZ Flash it did not see my usb flash drives but after a full CMOS clear it work great.

[dctokyo]

Grnfinger, can you verify EZ Flash is working on 1802 please? I don't want to burn a disk or go digging in the closet for a floppy if I need to flash back to 1307.

Thanks

It works :up: but what you need to do is to make sure that you do a full CMOS clear before you flash with 1802. After you do a full CMOS clear it will see your USB drives.

[grifonemoloch]

It works :up: but what you need to do is to make sure that you do a full CMOS clear before you flash with 1802. After you do a full CMOS clear it will see your USB drives.

Clear cmos with the button in the I/O shield or with jumper and battery?

[dctokyo]

Clear cmos with the button in the I/O shield or with jumper and battery?

Well I unpug the power cord and Cleared the CMOS with the button on the I/O shield in the back and waited 5 minutes and it was good to go for the flash with 1802.

If that does not work then pull the battery at the same time as you unplug the Power cord and hold down the CMOS button.

[powellandy]

Can anyone confirm/deny that EZ-Flash is broken in the 1802 BIOS?

I have just upgraded from 1501 to 1802 using Ezflash. I then went back into Ezflash after upgrading to 1802 and USB drive was still seen. So it works here....

Cheers,
Andy

[Grnfinger]

Same here there is no need to clear the cmos EZFlash works just fine.
Altho AFUDOS is the better method

[seban]

with Orthos or prime95, run small FFT's to see if the cpu can handle that speed/vcore. then go to large FFT's, depending on what test fails you can find out what voltage to raise

1024 - increase VTT or vNB
896 or 448 - vNB
768, 512, 332 - VTT

Thanks m8 this is exactly kind of info I was looking for.

Alto that makes me wonder because I had my 9550 4ghz stable 3h small ftp on all GTL set to Auto and vcore 1.34 - but it failed blend test after 2 minutes at maximum (blend starts with 1024).

So according to your tips I am over volting my CPU atm with 1.368. I will check this.


Same here mate...I had 3 stables OC, then one day i benched with safe voltages and now won't pass any of them...start messing with gtls and get again stable on the 445x9...today again won't pass...

Yeah this is really not nice when it happens...

[64dragon]

i just flashed to 1802 from 802 and notice my temps for NB, SB and PWM are a lil lower under 100% WCG load. boot time is definatly faster too, i dont even see POST. my monitor is an lcd tv/monitor.

[SkOrPn]

Thanks for the input on flashing 1802. I will make my usb drive bootable and use AFUDOS. Where can one get the latest afudos?

EDIT: nvm, found the utility > tools section at asus downloads and it has afudos 2.38.

[N3it1]

Can anyone confirm/deny that EZ-Flash is broken in the 1802 BIOS?

I flashed to 1802 with EZ flash but havent downgraded so dont know how that works.

[SkOrPn]

Well this board is a real pain to clear cmos. Holding down the clear cmos button for even 30 seconds does nothing, and yes clrtc_sw is in enabled position. I had to remove the battery for 5 minutes in order to get a clear cmos, after that, it finally needed to have the time and date re-entered (an indication of a truly cleared cmos). No amount of pushing the button or flashing the bios would allow it to see my usb flash drive, but now it does after removing the battery. Life was easier with my P5B Dlx, lol...

[andressergio]

Hey guys

I flashed again to 1802 just to try some things...

I achieved this, just stable for SPI 1M have to tweak mems and some others it was on my 5th attempt and on GTLS -10/-50/-10/-50

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/9601/4000500x8v13875pll155vtrx1.jpg

[CryptiK]

Excellent work mi amigo, muy bien hecho! :D

That is a nice cpu you have, and I'm somewhat surprised it only too 1.34vNB too.

[seban]

Hey guys

I flashed again to 1802 just to try some things...

I achieved this, just stable for SPI 1M have to tweak mems and some others it was on my 5th attempt and on GTLS -10/-50/-10/-50

!! - CUT ;) by cenzor ;) - !!

Hey m8,

Just in case those volts are supposed to be your 24/7.

Recently guys from Anandtech killed their 45nm quad with Vtt >= 1.4v, and they did it very fast.

[powellandy]

then go to large FFT's, depending on what test fails you can find out what voltage to raise

1024 - increase VTT or vNB
896 or 448 - vNB
768, 512, 332 - VTT


Out of interest - How are these derived. Is it personal experience or is there a scientific reason 448 and 896 are good for vNB and 332,512 and 768 are good for vTT?

Cheers,
Andy

[andressergio]

Hey m8,

Just in case those volts are supposed to be your 24/7.

Recently guys from Anandtech killed their 45nm quad with Vtt >= 1.4v, and they did it very fast.

No it was just a try i'm on 4005 on 1,28 vcore and vtt 1,25 for 24/7

Cheers
Sergio

[64dragon]

Out of interest - How are these derived. Is it personal experience or is there a scientific reason 448 and 896 are good for vNB and 332,512 and 768 are good for vTT?

Cheers,
Andy

another member here (jcool) posted that info and more here on XS and it worked perfectly for me.

[N3it1]

Thanks Cryptik,it posted nicely to desktop with your settings and now im running quadprime to check whats up.
Ill post my progress here later,so far so good!*knocks the wood*Again, big thanks to you Cryptik!

[xzulu]

Q9650 500x8 bios 1802

Nice andressergio!

[JoeBar]

this is quoted from Asus forums

Here's the actual changelog

Maximus II Formula 1802 Bios

-Fixed use 2 pieces of ATI4870X2 VGA Card can't display from Primary slot display monitor

[CryptiK]

Just a quick 32M run with my P5Q-Deluxe. Sadly, the deluxe seems to clock FSB & ram better than the M2F. I could not get these settings to pass 32M on the M2F no matter what I did, didnt even have to tweak the ram skews on the deluxe. The NB temp topped out at 47*C too, from my testing the deluxe cooling is better than the M2F too.

**EDIT - the M2F is better than the deluxe at PL8, it can do 534 FSB, 640 MHz PL8 32M stable and the deluxe cannot, but the deluxe can do 541 FSB, 650 MHz PL10 32M stable, which the M2F cannot. Quite strange behaviour. I also found the deluxe does not need any ram channel delay to run my GKX sticks over 2.2v whereas I need 150ps delay on the M2F or it will lock up if 2.2v+ is used.

541 FSB, 650 MHz, PL 10, 1.44 vNB, 2.24 vDimm

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/SPI32M541FSB-650MHz.jpg

[carepolice]

Just a quick 32M run with my P5Q-Deluxe. Sadly, the deluxe seems to clock FSB & ram better than the M2F. I could not get these settings to pass 32M on the M2F no matter what I did, didnt even have to tweak the ram skews on the deluxe. The NB temp topped out at 47*C too, from my testing the deluxe cooling is better than the M2F too.

541 FSB, 650 MHz, PL 10, 1.44 vNB, 2.24 vDimm

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/SPI32M541FSB-650MHz.jpg

How do you know exactly that NB topped 47*C ?

Did you use Thermometer or what ?

[CryptiK]

Yeah I borrowed my mates IR thermometer and aimed it at the base of the NB heatsink during the bench.

[andressergio]

Just a quick 32M run with my P5Q-Deluxe. Sadly, the deluxe seems to clock FSB & ram better than the M2F. I could not get these settings to pass 32M on the M2F no matter what I did, didnt even have to tweak the ram skews on the deluxe. The NB temp topped out at 47*C too, from my testing the deluxe cooling is better than the M2F too.

541 FSB, 650 MHz, PL 10, 1.44 vNB, 2.24 vDimm

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/SPI32M541FSB-650MHz.jpg

Oh man that's great !!

Muy bien hecho mi amigo escondido :up:

[andressergio]

Nice andressergio!

Thanxs xzuku, it's not stable at that settings just a quick run

Did you try what i sent you ?

Cheers mate :up:

[Nunzi]

Does enyone now what my CPU GTL ref's would be cpu 1.3875 vtt 1.351 NB 1.351

THANKS

[CryptiK]

Depends what your cpu needs.

You could try anything from
GTL Ref 0 -10
GTL Ref 1 -50
GTL Ref 2 -10
GTL Ref 3 -50

to

GTL Ref 0 +70
GTL Ref 1 +30
GTL Ref 2 +70
GTL Ref 3 +30

[Grnfinger]

Here's the actual changelog

Maximus II Formula 1802 Bios

-Fixed use 2 pieces of ATI4870X2 VGA Card can't display from Primary slot display monitor

From Asus Forums

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20081210225925659&board_id=1&model=Maximus+II+Formula&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

[GeorgeVasil]

So i tried tha new BIOS..:)

The good ones..;)

1)PCIE Set to 105 / FSB=500 = Boots OK
2)Raid Works Fine /No HDD hungs
3)Improved L2 Copy & Latency (Before=33766 MB/s & 4.5ns - After=~34334 MB/s & 3.6-3.9ns)
4)Stable With my previous settings

The bad news..:down:

1)VTT-vNB bug is still here..:mad:
2)Hungs on some Restarts and the LCD poster reports to me ''DET RAM''
3)Pull-ins Not Working..:mad:
4)Speed Step & C-state Options Disappear when applying O/C.

-----------------------

We sould Write a letter to Sanda...all of us.

Dear Santa,

We want a new NO BUGGY BIOS for our M2F.

----------------------

[andressergio]

So i tried tha new BIOS..:)

The good ones..;)

1)PCIE Set to 105 / FSB=500 = Boots OK
2)Raid Works Fine /No HDD hungs
3)Improved L2 Copy & Latency (Before=33766 MB/s & 4.5ns - After=~34334 MB/s & 3.6-3.9ns)
4)Stable With my previous settings

The bad news..:down:

1)VTT-vNB bug is still here..:mad:
2)Hungs on some Restarts and the LCD poster reports to me ''DET RAM''
3)Pull-ins Not Working..:mad:
4)Speed Step & C-state Options Disappear when applying O/C.

-----------------------

We sould Write a letter to Sanda...all of us.

Dear Santa,

We want a new NO BUGGY BIOS for our M2F.

----------------------

:rofl:

I'm testing it i will post my results soon

What settings George to boot on 500FSB, stable ? i posted mine not stable just SPI 1M, way too much VTT will try to tweak things and get it at least 32M SPI stable

Cheers
Sergio

[andressergio]

Well guys

Today I started testing with this method:

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=476249

In the part "Here is a method any one can do...."

Tough is not for this mobo GTLS are so close so i decided to give a shot...

I started on smallFFT's MEMS at 1:1 2x2GB PL10


CPU Speed VcoreSet PLL VTT NB CPU GTLS

4050 (450x9) 1,30600 1,50000 1,20600 1,25600 -5/-35/-5/-35 bsod after test 2
4050 (450x9) 1,31250 1,50000 1,20600 1,25600 -5/-35/-5/-35 core 4 fails after test 2
4050 (450x9) 1,31250 1,50000 1,20600 1,25600 -5/-30/-5/-30 +5mv increment on lanes 1 and 3 passed an hour...

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/3233/4050450x913125v120600vthr0.jpg

[Codeman05]

Guys, need some help with an e8400 (my e8500 killed itself this weekend).
I can't even get this guy stable at 4.0GHz, and I'm pretty sure its not the CPU as I could get 3.8GHz w/ 1.325 volts and I also had hell getting this board over 450 with the e8500.

Prime Blend fails in less than 15 mins...or the O/S freezes up.
Temps as follows: Cpu= 56/57 | Power=41 | NB=46 | SB=42 | MB=37

Any suggestions?



BIOS 1307

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9.0
FSB Frequency: 444
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-888Mhz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto (tried adv. 250 & 300)
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto (tried adv. 250 & 300)
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto (tried adv. 250 & 300)
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto (tried adv. 250 & 300)
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: 5
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 60
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 5

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): 10
Write to Read Delay (S): 4
Write to Read Delay (D): 5
Read to Read Delay (S): 6
Read to Read Delay (D): 6
Write to Write Delay (S): 5
Write to Write Delay (D): 6

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: 16
Read to PRE Delay: 6
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
All PRE to ACT Delay: 6
All PRE to REF Delay: 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Disabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 12 (tried 10 as well)
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.35 (tired up to 1.45v)
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50 (tried up to 1.6v)
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.325
DRAM Voltage: 2.1
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): -40
CPU GTL Reference (2): auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): -40
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9.0
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[seban]

Quick question guys about CPU PLL.

When and how to adjust it? What are the indications of too low or too high CPU PLL? What is it exactly for? (well i read technical docs about Intel core 2 family and I know what is it for but how does this voltage influence CPU and rest of the system in real life?)

Any tips are more then welcome :)


Guys, need some help with an e8400 (my e8500 killed itself this weekend).
I can't even get this guy stable at 4.0GHz, and I'm pretty sure its not the CPU as I could get 3.8GHz w/ 1.325 volts and I also had hell getting this board over 450 with the e8500.

Prime Blend fails in less than 15 mins...or the O/S freezes up.
Temps as follows: Cpu= 56/57 | Power=41 | NB=46 | SB=42 | MB=37

Any suggestions?

Well I am not an expert but my CPU and MB likes much higher GTLrefs than you have set.

You could try GTL ref

60
20
60
20

Which gives around 0.9v GTLref at yours vTT (also in my case keeping vTT little more higher than vCPU helped me a lot - but keep in mind that you should not go higher or even equal 1.4v on vTT to be on safe side with your CPU).

Your Vcore does not look to healthy for 45nm. To find you lowest vcore you can use smallFTP in P95.

Some posts ago there was info about what errors in P95 indicates what voltages should be adjusted - so far the schema work for me prety well.

Hope it helps.

BTW if it fails bland still on 1024 it is either vNB or vTT which need to be adjusted (thanks for info Dragon!) - that is ofcourse if your vcore is ok and mems are stable in the first place.

[Codeman05]

thanks, ill try more gtl tonight. the vcore may be a tad high, but if this chip lasts 3 months im happy :) ill back it down i just wanted to take Vcore out of the equation.

[xzulu]

Well, back to playing around with my Q9650. Been busy with work and gaming. LOL!

450x9....this was done about a month or 2 months ago....Just wanted to see it run stable at 450x9
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b272/xavizulu/450x91-1.jpg

Just today, did some testing for my new 24/7 settings. 425x9....GTL Ref all Auto
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b272/xavizulu/Q9650425x91.jpg

Rock stable. Played Farcry for more than 2 hours, no hangs at all...

Thanks to CryptiK and andressergio:up::up:

Im testing it now @ 425x9 but with lower vcore and vNB voltages....

[Codeman05]

thanks, ill try more gtl tonight. the vcore may be a tad high, but if this chip lasts 3 months im happy :) ill back it down i just wanted to take Vcore out of the equation.

No go on the -60 GTLs :mad:
Max I can get is 433FSB for 3.9GHz. Anything else freezes the O/S after ~10 mins of P95 Blend. Dropping the multi, still top out at 433 :confused:

[seban]

Three questions:

1. Does any body know of negative impact/consequences of running high vTT in compare to vCPU. I am currently at 1.30 vCPU in compare to 1.365 vTT and I wonder if this is safe 24/7? Please let me know as I do not know if proceed with extensive testing :D

2. I had stability issues running 1:1 mem on 460 and when switched on same settings to 4:5 all problems seems to be gone. Was not 1:1 supposed to be more stable/less problematic?

3. I got this problem which no body seems to have. It is random. I have some settings in BIOS I boot to windows and when I grab any window and I move it around it is choppy - in very distinct way. So kind of fast choppiness.

Then I do restart boot again to Vista and it is smooth as silk when moving windows around. Another boot or two and again same thing... it is driving me nuts.

Anybody?

Cheers


No go on the -60 GTLs :mad:
Max I can get is 433FSB for 3.9GHz. Anything else freezes the O/S after ~10 mins of P95 Blend. Dropping the multi, still top out at 433 :confused:

There should be +60/+20/+60/+20 not "-".

[Nunzi]

Depends what your cpu needs.

You could try anything from
GTL Ref 0 -10
GTL Ref 1 -50
GTL Ref 2 -10
GTL Ref 3 -50

to

GTL Ref 0 +70
GTL Ref 1 +30
GTL Ref 2 +70
GTL Ref 3 +30

Thanks for the info played around with vtt & gtl's got my vtt down from 1.351 to 1.3 volts +30 +10 +30 + 10 9 hours prime small ftt occt blend :up:

[Codeman05]

There should be +60/+20/+60/+20 not "-".

I do not have a quad, therefore GTLs 0,2 do nothing if I'm not mistaken.

[seban]

I do not have a quad, therefore GTLs 0,2 do nothing if I'm not mistaken.

You are mistaken my friend :p:

[andressergio]

Well, back to playing around with my Q9650. Been busy with work and gaming. LOL!

450x9....this was done about a month or 2 months ago....Just wanted to see it run stable at 450x9

Just today, did some testing for my new 24/7 settings. 425x9....GTL Ref all Auto

Rock stable. Played Farcry for more than 2 hours, no hangs at all...

Thanks to CryptiK and andressergio:up::up:

Im testing it now @ 425x9 but with lower vcore and vNB voltages....

good job xzulu :up: my masters where Cryptik, Leeghofd, Jor3BR and NapalmV5

Cheers all keep testing !

[CryptiK]

Guys, need some help with an e8400 (my e8500 killed itself this weekend).
I can't even get this guy stable at 4.0GHz, and I'm pretty sure its not the CPU as I could get 3.8GHz w/ 1.325 volts and I also had hell getting this board over 450 with the e8500.

Prime Blend fails in less than 15 mins...or the O/S freezes up.
Temps as follows: Cpu= 56/57 | Power=41 | NB=46 | SB=42 | MB=37

Any suggestions?

How did your e8500 kill itself exactly? What happened? What voltages were you giving it?

[Kayso]

Hi guys,
I managed to find a pretty good Q9300, that is in my signature now (rock stable at 1.34 vcore).
Do you have any settings for 7.5*500. With vcore 1.375 PC get in windows and I managed to make about 10minutes testing with Orthos but then PC freezes. So if you have some settings to stabilize it, i will be very greatfull.

Best reagards

[CryptiK]

What settings did you use to get into windows at 500 FSB? If you can fill out a template we can go from there and see what it can do.

Depends a bit on how much you want to thrash it, and how it responds, some Quads will not do 500 FSB but I have not got any experience with them - some guys here do though, hopefully they can give you some advice. It will probably take 1.3 - 1.4 vFSB, 1.55 - 1.60 vPLL and 1.37 - 1.45 vcore, but you should be able to get a little more out of it without pushing it that hard.

[Kayso]

What settings did you use to get into windows at 500 FSB? If you can fill out a template we can go from there and see what it can do.

Depends a bit on how much you want to thrash it, and how it responds, some Quads will not do 500 FSB but I have not got any experience with them - some guys here do though, hopefully they can give you some advice. It will probably take 1.3 - 1.4 vFSB, 1.55 - 1.60 vPLL and 1.37 - 1.45 vcore, but you should be able to get a little more out of it without pushing it that hard.

Almost everything is on Auto, because I really don't understand why I need so much things to twaek. On my older motherboards it was just vcore and everything goest fine :) Now there are so much settings and almost no explanations about what to do exactly, so I prefer to put everything on Auto and try that way.

So here it goes:


BIOS 1802

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 7.5
FSB Frequency: 500
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000Mhz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: Auto
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
DRAM Read Training: Auto
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Auto
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 9
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Auto
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Auto
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Auto
Pull-in of CHA PH4: Auto
Pull-in of CHA PH5: Auto
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Auto
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Auto
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Auto
Pull-in of CHB PH4: Auto
Pull-in of CHB PH5: Auto

PCIE Frequency: 101

CPU Voltage: 1.365
CPU PLL Voltage: Auto (it is about 1.55 in Hardware monitor, I don't know what is this PLL for)
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.325
DRAM Voltage: 2.19
North Bridge Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 7.5
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[Shiranui Gen-An]

Auto settings often give components way more voltage than they need; it's best to set them manually. Even on older boards you had to set more than just vcore: vMCH/NB voltage, VTT/FSB Termination voltage and vDIMM/memory voltage were very important to set manually.

[radaja]

well ive had it with asus.i got my rma back for the second time,and this board is warped worse than the previous two.it was sent in an inside out, P5Q3 box.most likely used and repaired,or someone else replacement. this is total BS. im going to call them just to give them exactly what i think of this company right now.total crap

[Grnfinger]

well ive had it with asus.i got my rma back for the second time,and this board is warped worse than the previous two.it was sent in an inside out, P5Q3 box.most likely used and repaired,or someone else replacement. this is total BS. im going to call them just to give them exactly what i think of this company right now.total crap

Here is alittle info for you.
Your going to have to argue this point with a supervisor not a phone drone, so insist on a supervisor or your wasting your time.

Asus has a policy called "Non-Repair Grounds" if you send a board in with any of these issues they can refuse to repair it, guess what one of the non repair items are???
Thats right "Board Deformed" so using there own policy ask them how on gods green earth can they send you something that they can refuse to repair themselves. If they can refuse it so can you. Also refuse to send it to the Indiana facility, Send it to Fremont California, that is a much better facility.

http://support.asus.com/service/service_right.aspx?SLanguage=EN-US&no=213

I wish you luck:up:

[seban]

3. I got this problem which no body seems to have. It is random. I have some settings in BIOS I boot to windows and when I grab any window and I move it around it is choppy - in very distinct way. So kind of fast choppiness.

Then I do restart boot again to Vista and it is smooth as silk when moving windows around. Another boot or two and again same thing... it is driving me nuts.

Any ideas what may be causing this? Any body did see something like this on his machine>? Please do not tell me I am alone with this crap :shocked:.

Also starting from 1802 I got this really annoying 'PLEASE HIT ESCAPE' during boot and counting down seconds till automated boot. Where can I turn it off I can not find option in BIOS.

Thanks

[Grnfinger]

Any ideas what may be causing this? Any body did see something like this on his machine>? Please do not tell me I am alone with this crap :shocked:.

Also starting from 1802 I got this really annoying 'PLEASE HIT ESCAPE' during boot and counting down seconds till automated boot. Where can I turn it off I can not find option in BIOS.

Thanks

What version chipset drivers are you using?

[Codeman05]

How did your e8500 kill itself exactly? What happened? What voltages were you giving it?

Not entirely sure. Just rebooted the PC Saturday night, standard procedure...and it never POSTed again. Vcore was 1.425 since day 1, never saw temps over 55c (when priming) on water. Thought it was the mobo at first, but turned out to be the CPU. It never acted odd or showed any signs of degradation prior to this. I didn't think it'd last forever at that voltage, but I figured the "death" would atleast be more exciting.

So, I'm now using an e8400 out of my HMPC until I decide on i7 or C2Q, but currently this E8400 or mobo...are clocking pretty craptacular at the moment (see post 2372). Somewhat noticeable difference from 4.5GHz back down to 3.8GHz =/


But I'll fiddle with it more tonight.

[andressergio]

Any ideas what may be causing this? Any body did see something like this on his machine>? Please do not tell me I am alone with this crap :shocked:.

Also starting from 1802 I got this really annoying 'PLEASE HIT ESCAPE' during boot and counting down seconds till automated boot. Where can I turn it off I can not find option in BIOS.

Thanks

Seban i had once on vista when i had my VGA OC'd, this was happening on my P5K deluxe, so i came to a solution puting PCIE = 103+, later i added 2x2sticks of RAM and if using 1,25NB same problem, then upped to 1,4 and problem gone...But it was some bandwith problem or bottleneck somewhere, with the MF2 this problems are gone and my VGA OC it's impressive on lower volts also...

I will try to find out what's causing that on BIOS 1802 wich is i'm runing

Cheers
Sergio

[radaja]

@grnfinger,thanks again for your help and advice i'm going to try getting ahold of someone in charge. hopefully they can help.

[screwtech02]

Dude, you said "someone in charge"........:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Good luck with THAT.....:up:

[philbrown23]

im starting to like this board but the NB gets REAL HOT!
and raid is a tad messed up

[loonym]

I just picked one up on a 'too good to pass' deal. still trying to decide whether to keep it or resell. Phil, is that the quad I sent you? I always knew that chip had potential if it was in something other than that crap ds3l I was crunching it in :D

[seban]

What version chipset drivers are you using?

I am using newest ones from ASUS web page at least I think so.

I still did not get my head around INTEL drivers web page it is little confusing :D.

Which should I use? Can you give me number, link or download location.

Thanks

[Grnfinger]

I am using newest ones from ASUS web page at least I think so.

I still did not get my head around INTEL drivers web page it is little confusing :D.

Which should I use? Can you give me number, link or download location.

Thanks

Chipset --> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=816

Matrix Storage Manager --> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=2101

[seban]

Chipset --> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=816

Matrix Storage Manager --> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=2101

Thank you. I will reinstall Vista today just to rule it out from equation.

[ViViD]

Hi All

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/464065.png

Valid Link (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=464065)

[Kayso]

Hi All

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/464065.png

Valid Link (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=464065)

Can you post your bios settings please ?

[Musho]

Hello guys,

I'm currently tweaking my GTL reference voltages to try and get 8,5 x 475 stable with my q9550 C1. Core 0 and Core 1 are rocksolid at the moment, and Core 2 and 3 crashed instantly before I started tweaking, and now can run roughly 10 minutes of prime95 small FFTs using 1,4vCore, 1,38VTT and 1,34 NB. These are nowhere near the lowest possible to get this stable, but I'm overvolting a bit to rule out voltage problems. Now sometimes when I'm tweaking GTL reference voltages, cores I did not expect to be affected by not tinkering with their GTL reference voltages, become totally unstable (3 instant crashed in a row with prime95 small FFTs, which could run 10 minutes+ before just fine). This makes me believe I don't have the right idea of which reference voltages are used for which cores. I've seen 4 different versions:

GTL0: Core 0,1 Data Bus
GTL1: Core 2,3 Data Bus
GTL2: Core 0,1 Address Bus
GTL3: Core 2,3 Address Bus

GTL0: Core 0,2 Data Bus
GTL1: Core 1,3 Data Bus
GTL2: Core 0,2 Address Bus
GTL3: Core 1,3 Address Bus

GTL0: Core 0,1 Data Bus
GTL1: Core 2,3 Address Bus
GTL2: Core 0,1 Data Bus
GTL3: Core 2,3 Address Bus

GTL0: Core 0,2 Data Bus
GTL1: Core 1,3 Address Bus
GTL2: Core 0,2 Data Bus
GTL3: Core 1,3 Address Bus

So which one is the real explanation on what the GTL reference voltages do for quad core CPUs on the Maximus II formula? This is very important to know, since sometimes it just feels I'm changing those settings completely in the dark, without knowing what core's stability the changes are going to affect. I would be very grateful, and I think many more people will be, if someone could tell which is the correct version.

Musho

[Eeky NoX]

So excuse me cus' I messed an ep : is the 1804 available for duals or what ?

Any answers for tha ram frequency Cryptic (all my modules are right there \o/)

http://soj.mesdiscussions.net/soj/Memoires/gallerie-corsair-crucial-sujet_2355_1.htm

[seban]

Hi All

**** CUT *****

Valid Link (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=464065)

What is your vcore and why it is not in cpu-z ;> ?

[ViViD]

Can you post your bios settings please ?

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
FSB Frequency: 480
PCI-E Frequency: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-971 MHz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information: 5-5-5-15
CPU Voltage: 1.56
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.4
NB Voltage: 1.5
DRAM Voltage: Auto
SBridge Voltage: Auto
All Other EveryThing: Auto


What is your vcore and why it is not in cpu-z ;> ?

:confused: I don't Know Maybe It's Bug On CPUZ:confused:

Gonna To 1.625 CPU Voltage Tommorow And Over 500FSB:shocked:

[seban]

Gonna To 1.625 CPU Voltage Tommorow And Over 500FSB:shocked:

This is hardcore :D. You dont like your CPU :D

[radaja]

hey seban have you got your board back from rma yet?

[ViViD]

This is hardcore :D. You dont like your CPU :D

No I Like It But I Like OC More Than :up::D

[seban]

hey seban have you got your board back from rma yet?

Hi m8,

Sorry to hear about your new/old mobo.

Probably I was not clear enough about my situation. I bought a mobo and because of problems with sensor during first 7 days I just informed shop that I am returning it (during first 7 days when buying from e-tailer I can just send back item without giving any reason and get my cash back - but probably you have same rules in US?).

But shop I was buying from has this additional rule that after they accept my request to return goods I have 28 days for item to be in their mailbox. So altogether I had it for about 30days to do some testing with it and make sure that I can not help anything about damaged sensor.

Despite the fact I had problems with MB sensor which yet alone was more then enough to send it back - the mobo was used before. All plastics were crushed and so on.

Any way to make sure I get my money back and wont be left with 2 MF2 in the hand I packed the old Mobo which came with used parts with brand new parts and plastics from new one (I am currently using) from other etailer... so as you can see it is quit long story (I am waiting for my money at this stage).

So answering your question I did not RMA it to ASUS so I want be able to share experience.

In the end I must say I like the mobo very much but I am still working on it. It's stability during OC is much better then DFI board I had before (which was NF4 chipset :D). Alto craftsmanship for this kind of price tag is just unbelievable joke.

[Grnfinger]

Hi m8,

Sorry to hear about your new/old mobo.

Probably I was not clear enough about my situation. I bought a mobo and because of problems with sensor during first 7 days I just informed shop that I am returning it (during first 7 days when buying from e-tailer I can just send back item without giving any reason and get my cash back - but probably you have same rules in US?).

But shop I was buying from has this additional rule that after they accept my request to return goods I have 28 days for item to be in their mailbox. So altogether I had it for about 30days to do some testing with it and make sure that I can not help anything about damaged sensor.

Despite the fact I had problems with MB sensor which yet alone was more then enough to send it back - the mobo was used before. All plastics were crushed and so on.

Any way to make sure I get my money back and wont be left with 2 MF2 in the hand I packed the old Mobo which came with used parts with brand new parts and plastics from new one (I am currently using) from other etailer... so as you can see it is quit long story (I am waiting for my money at this stage).

So answering your question I did not RMA it to ASUS so I want be able to share experience.

In the end I must say I like the mobo very much but I am still working on it. It's stability during OC is much better then DFI board I had before (which was NF4 chipset :D). Alto craftsmanship for this kind of price tag is just unbelievable joke.

It is hard to believe that Asus can consistantly produce this level of quality,
Someone needs to be fired there not doing there job, QA is a very vital part and someone has dropped the ball or simply doesnt give a damn

[radaja]

heres some pictures of the board they sent.clearly this is a used board.http://i41.tinypic.com/xkvonn.jpghttp://i39.tinypic.com/280mkj5.jpghttp://i40.tinypic.com/24177ut.jpghttp://i41.tinypic.com/sw8sn4.jpghttp://i41.tinypic.com/2upwbvd.jpg

[seban]

heres some pictures of the board they sent.clearly this is a used board.

**** CUT! ****



That is indeed badly warped MF2... are you planing to send it back again?

------------------------------------------------

About my problem with choppines when moving windows in Vista :) - It looks like the problem is to tight memory timings, but it is not fully confirmed yet (thanks andressergio and Grnfinger).

[Eeky NoX]

I agree wit you Grnfinger : wtf with this QA the board lost 100€ on it or what ?? Angry ?? the word would be too small !!
One more time asus lost a costumer : I can't trust anymore when I see what's happenin' on these threads mate :/

Sorry but could someone reply to what I asked please ? Does this bios increase memory BW with C2D or not ?

[Musho]

Hello guys,

I have a question about GTL reference voltage on this board. What does the auto setting do? Is it +0mV? If not, what is it? How can I find out what voltage auto is setting? And if it's not, how can I set +0mV?

Thank you very much in advance
Musho

[philbrown23]

the auto setting does just that, it sets it to where it needs to be depending on where your overclock is. theres no way to tell except to experiment with it, as far as 1802 increasing bandwith with c2d, I doubt it it doesnt change bandwidth with c2Q so it prolly wont with duals. all it did for me was make boot a bit quicker, and raid works now.

[Grnfinger]

I agree wit you Grnfinger : wtf with this QA the board lost 100€ on it or what ?? Angry ?? the word would be too small !!
One more time asus lost a costumer : I can't trust anymore when I see what's happenin' on these threads mate :/

Sorry but could someone reply to what I asked please ? Does this bios increase memory BW with C2D or not ?

There is no bandwidth increase for bios 1802, tref value is the same as 1307 so bandwidth is unchanged.


the auto setting does just that, it sets it to where it needs to be depending on where your overclock is. theres no way to tell except to experiment with it, as far as 1802 increasing bandwith with c2d, I doubt it it doesnt change bandwidth with c2Q so it prolly wont with duals. all it did for me was make boot a bit quicker, and raid works now.

Never had an issue with Raid0 on MIIF with any bios, clean installed OS 5 or 6 times now. What problem where you having with raid?

[seban]

Does any body know what is it and how to turn it off? I cant find any option for it - but maybe I am blind (wait time and esc key)

http://images39.fotosik.pl/41/4cff9799fa4a14f6.jpg (www.fotosik.pl)

[Grnfinger]

Under the Advanced tab scroll down to LCD Poster and LCD control
Enable the ROG Logo
Not sure if that will work , its a shot in the dark.

[al-]

Try enabling 'QUICK BOOT' under the BIOS 'BOOT' Tab, it's a 'POST' message...

[Musho]

Hey guys,

Have any of you experienced any positive Vdroop with the 1802 bios? I haven't tried earlier bioses, since I recently bought this mobo and flashed it to 1802 right away. What I mean is, that when my CPU gets loaded with prime95, the Vcore increases according to Everest and CPU-Z. This could give me a hard time trying to get my CPU stable in idle too, since it will drop the Vcore down :(
This is with loadline calibration enable by the way. Without it enabled, getting my quad stable when fully loaded will be impossible except with crazy high idle voltages. I hope this is a bios issue and will be resolved, rather than an issue with my board :(
Thanks for the help guys, my quad's almost stable ;)

Musho

[bito]

Got another MFII for a build here and it is behaving completely different to the first .....The CPU GTL's required to even boot the same Q9650 at 4.0Ghz are completely different:

Board 1: +10/-40/+10/-40, with NB GTL at +20

Board 2: +40/-10/+40/-10 .......NB GTL at Auto
It also requires slightly more VNB and VFSB.

Very odd.....both are A2's and running 1307 bios.

[al-]

I have no problems with my m2f, except when I play certain games, it'll lock-up and sometimes the sound will stutter or loop. Troubleshooting this problem, I've backed-off my overclock from 4.5GHz to 3.6GHz, I've swapped my XtremGamer Soundcard for an ASUS Xonar 'Card, & discontinued using my UPS (overload alarm triggered). 'GRID' which locked-up before, now plays ok, but 'GTA San Andreas' locks-up constantly. All that seems left is to start bumping-up some voltages. I bumped the Vcore from 1.3v to 1.38v, and the NB from 1.2v to 1.25v, but GTA still locks-up. Manufacturers suggested voltage for this RAM is 2.1v--using BIOS 1307. Any suggestions or recommendations will be appreciated

[Grnfinger]

I have no problems with my m2f, except when I play certain games, it'll lock-up and sometimes the sound will stutter or loop. Troubleshooting this problem, I've backed-off my overclock from 4.5GHz to 3.6GHz, I've swapped my XtremGamer Soundcard for an ASUS Xonar 'Card, & discontinued using my UPS (overload alarm triggered). 'GRID' which locked-up before, now plays ok, but 'GTA San Andreas' locks-up constantly. All that seems left is to start bumping-up some voltages. I bumped the Vcore from 1.3v to 1.38v, and the NB from 1.2v to 1.25v, but GTA still locks-up. Manufacturers suggested voltage for this RAM is 2.1v--using BIOS 1307. Any suggestions or recommendations will be appreciated :shrug:

Have you tested the ram with memtest?
If not test the dimms at stock speed/volts using memtest

[al-]

Have you tested the ram with memtest?
If not test the dimms at stock speed/volts using memtest

I ran Memtest86+ for 2 passes without errors, and Orthos for an hour without any errors, but I read just because a pc is prime or orthos stable doesn't mean it is game stable....

[CryptiK]

I have been trying repeatedly but I cannot get my M2F to do 542 FSB / 650 MHz SPI32M stable. It locks up or errors out before it's even completed the initial value. My P5Q-Deluxe has no problem at all doing this. The P5Q-D also needs no ram channel delay to stay stable at for example 534 FSB / 640 MHz, whereas the M2F needs 150ps delay on the channels or it will hard lock with over 2.2 vdimm. What I find a bit odd is the fact the M2F is stable at 534 FSB / 650 MHz at reasonable voltages, then is completely unstable only a little higher regardless of the voltages I give it.

I don't know if it's bios differences that are responsible for the different behaviour between the 2 boards as hardware wise they are very similar, they both run the same vNB/vdimm/timings/PL etc up to 534 FSB / 640 MHz (except the M2F needing the ram delay) but after that the M2F stops and the P5Q-D keeps going. The M2F is however slightly faster than the P5Q-D clock for clock at any given setting.

[loften]

al- i think if you are using the hd48xx card in your sig that you might be having problems with it. drivers looping like blink- black screen and sound continues to play. vpu revovery error that thousands of hd users are experiencing.. i have that problem with mine. i can pass every test for days and can't play games..

[andressergio]

Hey guys yesterday i started testings this amazing mems on the MF2

Just booted them at 1,9v at 1200 PL10, they booted on less but i decided to give a try on this that seem so low volts, and put a little NB = 1,3, later i will be testing on lower PL that it'll need more NB and perhaps more vdimm

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/413/p10106311yb3zz6.jpg

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3037/40501200pl104xspi32mzp3at4.jpg

[seban]

Under the Advanced tab scroll down to LCD Poster and LCD control
Enable the ROG Logo
Not sure if that will work , its a shot in the dark.


Try enabling 'QUICK BOOT' under the BIOS 'BOOT' Tab, it's a 'POST' message...

Hi guys unfortunately both tips did not help with my strange boot issue. Logo option suggested by Grnfinger does light up the Logo on motherboard (we do not want that ;) ) and quick boot does not affect this strange thing with "esc" key.

I will try 1602 from other bios - but I remember I was able to turn it off somehow in 1602. Maybe I got bed flash of 1802.


Hey guys yesterday i started testings this amazing mems on the MF2

Just booted them at 1,9v at 1200 PL10, they booted on less but i decided to give a try on this that seem so low volts, and put a little NB = 1,3, later i will be testing on lower PL that it'll need more NB and perhaps more vdimm

*** CUT! ***

That is very nice RAM you got there. Sergio can you post everest test for your settings.

Thanks

[WaterFlex]

andressergio
Yeah, some everest please

[CryptiK]

No point in everest just yet till he gets the PL down to 8 and tightens up the chipset settings. He'll be pulling low to mid 9K with those settings at the moment.

[andressergio]

andressergio
Yeah, some everest please

Hey waterflex I'm getting my way to get PL8, I need more NB and maybe some more vdimm but impressed they passed that 4x SPI 32M on such low volts :D

Will post soon i'm enjoying them by now :D

Cheers
Sergio

[andressergio]

No point in everest just yet till he gets the PL down to 8 and tightens up the chipset settings. He'll be pulling low to mid 9K with those settings at the moment.

Yes mate at PL10 it's no big deal, also a x9 multi for 4050 it has less bandwith to push...but very good mems as i told y ou they booted perfect on less than 1,9 wich impressed me, just a little bit of NB and i get them stable fast.

Cheers
Sergio :up:

[depex]

Kinda stuck here. so any help would be greatly appreciated. This is what I've got so far.



Processor: E8500 E0
Asus Maximus II Formula
2x (8gb) OCZ TECH OCZ Gold XTC 4096MB DDR2 PC6400 KIT (OCZ2G8004GK)
Velociraptor 300g + 2x Samsung SpinPoint 750gb raid0
Antec Sonata III 500w psu door off
XIGMATEK HDT-S1283
Roomtemp 23C

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9.5x
FSB Frequency: 430 (bluescreens on 440)
CPU Clock Skew: Auto
NB Clock Skew: Auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-861MHz

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto


DRAM Timing Control: Manual 6-6-6-18

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [11] (Tried 10 but I got DET DRAM all the time if I went from 420 to 425fsb)

Pull-in of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Disabled

PCIE Frequency: 100

CPU Voltage: 1.35 (unstable at 1.32)
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.54
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.245
DRAM Voltage: 2.0
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.54
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.113

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): -30mv (probably wrong, just copied something)
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): +30mv

NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto


CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9.5
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[Eeky NoX]

Increase the vNB ;) mwarf I guess you're so far from my settings wit this shubby 1,35v :D

[ViViD]

Hi All Friends

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/465508.png

Valid Link (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=465508)

With 1.65 Volt On CPU

[al-]

al- i think if you are using the hd48xx card in your sig that you might be having problems with it. drivers looping like blink- black screen and sound continues to play. vpu revovery error that thousands of hd users are experiencing.. i have that problem with mine. i can pass every test for days and can't play games..


Thanks, I'll take a look at that--

[seban]

BTW is there a way to make Prime stop all cores when any of cores fails?

[al-]

al- i think if you are using the hd48xx card in your sig that you might be having problems with it. drivers looping like blink- black screen and sound continues to play. vpu revovery error that thousands of hd users are experiencing.. i have that problem with mine. i can pass every test for days and can't play games..

loften, I looked (googled) at numerous posts and although the 'vpu recovery error' has definite similarities to my video issue(s), it does not seem to quite fit, and it looks like the 4870 card has 'crash' problems, with different sets of symptoms, that are resolved in different ways. And also, just because one persons' 4870 has the same symptoms as anothers' 4870, doesn't mean that it can be 'fixed' the same way. I think, after trying many things, that I may have it resolved...I deleted everything ATI/CCC, booted into 'Safe-Mode', used 'Driver Sweeper', and re-installed CCC Suite v8.12 from the desktop (along with bumping-up my NB and Vcore). I noticed that prior to using 'Driver Sweeper', my default clock/memory and gpu clock/memory (GPU-Z) was 500/900:750/900, but now its 750/900:750/900, and GTA runs smooth as silk, not choppy like it was before...maybe ATI will pick-up the ball and straighten-out all the problems users are having with HD48XX's-I seriously thought this was just an issue for the maximus2formula bios (voltages), but it looks like it was 'drivers' too (keeping my fingers crossed)...

[seban]

BTW maybe somebody in the future will find it useful - my problems with random choppiness when moving windows around the desktop was resolved by adjusting NBGTL in my case to +60.

Also the same option gave me stability on my Dominators at 1130 5-5-5-15.

And just upping vNB did not helped even to vhigh values.

[CryptiK]

Hi All Friends



Valid Link (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=465508)

With 1.65 Volt On CPU

Nice work, whats the max FSB you can hit on that chip?


BTW maybe somebody in the future will find it useful - my problems with random choppiness when moving windows around the desktop was resolved by adjusting NBGTL in my case to +60.

Also the same option gave me stability on my Dominators at 1130 5-5-5-15.

And just upping vNB did not helped even to vhigh values.

Yes I used to experience the same thing back in the day on my P965 system if i didnt have enough vNB. Weird that your board like positive GTL Ref on the NB, my board hates anything other than auto (0.64x), if I'm pushing the board a little, say 550FSB, setting -5mv or more gives me no boot, and +10mv or more gives me no boot.

Good to hear you sorted it out.

[bito]

I think every board is different, as evidenced by my earlier post here :

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3507917&postcount=2421

The same exact components were used across the two MFII's for testing.

[cstkl1]

Hey waterflex I'm getting my way to get PL8, I need more NB and maybe some more vdimm but impressed they passed that 4x SPI 32M on such low volts :D

Will post soon i'm enjoying them by now :D

Cheers
Sergio

hmm whats the point of doing so high mhz on the ram when ure taking a hit on the performance levels?? willing to bet 1:1 with lower tRD will preform better with lower latencies

500fsb 1200mhz CL5 - tRD 8 for 4x1gb
400fsb 1200mhz CL5 - tRD 5 for 4x1gb

[seban]

...
Yes I used to experience the same thing back in the day on my P965 system if i didnt have enough vNB. Weird that your board like positive GTL Ref on the NB, my board hates anything other than auto (0.64x), if I'm pushing the board a little, say 550FSB, setting -5mv or more gives me no boot, and +10mv or more gives me no boot.

Good to hear you sorted it out.

Yes my mobo really like high volts. Actually I have a problem with this, because I am ATM stabilizing it at 471 fsb and it needs more than unfamous 1.4v value which I do not want to cross for 24/7.

Are there any other ways to lower hunger for Vtt than tuning CPU GTLref? Does increasing vcore might help in lowering vtt?

I need more vtt power but cant go higher with volts on it :D. Does actually anybody run here >1.4v Vtt for 24/7?

Cheers

[Shiranui Gen-An]

hmm whats the point of doing so high mhz on the ram when ure taking a hit on the performance levels?? willing to bet 1:1 with lower tRD will preform better with lower latencies

500fsb 1200mhz CL5 - tRD 8 for 4x1gb
400fsb 1200mhz CL5 - tRD 5 for 4x1gb

I'm willing to bet otherwise :) Aside from nVidia chipsets I've never seen where 1:1 did better than a divider with Core 2...

[seban]

I'm willing to bet otherwise :) Aside from nVidia chipsets I've never seen where 1:1 did better than a divider with Core 2...

Once I got home I will post screenies where 942 1:1 on loose timings does marginal better than 1130 on 5:4.

It might be coincidence tho.

[andressergio]

hmm whats the point of doing so high mhz on the ram when ure taking a hit on the performance levels?? willing to bet 1:1 with lower tRD will preform better with lower latencies

500fsb 1200mhz CL5 - tRD 8 for 4x1gb
400fsb 1200mhz CL5 - tRD 5 for 4x1gb

mate i put this ram 2 days ago...I just started testing them, i posted that as pointless...I know what you meant of course i will find a better bandwith for 24/7...

Cheers
Sergio

[radaja]

what do you think this?i was packing the board up to send it and just noticed this under the light.i cant believe they can send this stuff out.http://i42.tinypic.com/24omwe1.jpghttp://i40.tinypic.com/2l896qg.jpg

[Grnfinger]

what do you think this?i was packing the board up to send it and just noticed this under the light.i cant believe they can send this stuff out

Hard to tell from teh pics. looks like some sort of insulating spray they use for preventing moisture when cooling with dice but not 100% sure.

How are you making out, did the supervisor call you? I will know today what what mobo I'm getting as a replacement. I tried to squeeze a P6T Deluxe out of them but I was denied:D

[radaja]

i know its hard to tell from the picture but it definitely looks like maybe some spilled (maybe coolant from a WC setup).

[screwtech02]

Good luck getting a "upgrade" guys.... They beleive in giving you what you paid for, nothing more, EVER......:shakes:

[radaja]

all i want is a new unwarped,no spilled stuff, fully functioning maximusII formula. so i can enjoy it as much as every one else does.

[Grnfinger]

Good luck getting a "upgrade" guys.... They beleive in giving you what you paid for, nothing more, EVER......:shakes:

Well then you'd be wrong, got my email and I am offerd.....
1.Maximus II Formula
2.Striker II Formula
3.Rampage Formula
4.P5Q Premium

Oh and I'm getting a token Asus T-Shirt as a sorry for the hassles.

So as you can clearly see (altho it took 4ever) the squeaky wheel gets the greese.

[radaja]

thats great news!so which one are you going to pick?if it was me i would go #3

[SiGfever]

thats great news!so which one are you going to pick?if it was me i would go #3

:up:

I wish I had of made that choice. Don't get me wrong, this board has a lot to offer if Asus would only provide us with a Bios worthy of the board's price tag.

[CryptiK]

all i want is a new unwarped,no spilled stuff, fully functioning maximusII formula. so i can enjoy it as much as every one else does.

I have seen that stuff on a couple of brand new boards. I'm not sure what is it but I don' think it's insulating spray or coolant residue, I think it's something during the manufacturing process. I could be wrong though of course.


Well then you'd be wrong, got my email and I am offerd.....
1.Maximus II Formula
2.Striker II Formula
3.Rampage Formula
4.P5Q Premium

Oh and I'm getting a token Asus T-Shirt as a sorry for the hassles.

So as you can clearly see (altho it took 4ever) the squeaky wheel gets the greese.

That's good to hear, I hope whatever you choose is a solid board. You have certainly been stuffed around.

[radaja]

cryptik, its definitely something spilled,after closer inspection of the top side you can see this stuff leaked down through the gaps of the memory slots.

[screwtech02]

Well then you'd be wrong, got my email and I am offerd.....
1.Maximus II Formula
2.Striker II Formula
3.Rampage Formula
4.P5Q Premium

Oh and I'm getting a token Asus T-Shirt as a sorry for the hassles.

So as you can clearly see (altho it took 4ever) the squeaky wheel gets the greese.

Wow, i am simply amazed that they are doing that for you.... I tried to get a 975X board after RMA'ing my P5N32-SLI 7 times, and was told "we dont offer upgrades"... Good for you man, what ya gonna get?? :cool:

[CryptiK]

cryptik, its definitely something spilled,after closer inspection of the top side you can see this stuff leaked down through the gaps of the memory slots.

That's really bad. I've seen light residue before, but if it's leaked down through the ram slots your lucky the board didn't fry you gear.

How could they send you something like that? I would have though they would not even accept something in that condition back let alone send it out.

[Beleno]

hi guys this is my result in testing max fsb on my mobo

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=466061

setup:
cpu@phase ss 1.2hp
nb@liquid cooling ybris k5

here some photo of my rig

http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc356/beleno81/Maximus%20II%20formula/th_IMG_2149.jpg (http://s527.photobucket.com/albums/cc356/beleno81/Maximus%20II%20formula/?action=view&current=IMG_2149.jpg)http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc356/beleno81/Maximus%20II%20formula/th_IMG_2152.jpg (http://s527.photobucket.com/albums/cc356/beleno81/Maximus%20II%20formula/?action=view&current=IMG_2152.jpg)
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc356/beleno81/Maximus%20II%20formula/th_IMG_2152.jpg (http://s527.photobucket.com/albums/cc356/beleno81/Maximus%20II%20formula/?action=view&current=IMG_2152.jpg)http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc356/beleno81/Maximus%20II%20formula/th_IMG_2152.jpg (http://s527.photobucket.com/albums/cc356/beleno81/Maximus%20II%20formula/?action=view&current=IMG_2152.jpg)
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc356/beleno81/Maximus%20II%20formula/th_IMG_2159.jpg (http://s527.photobucket.com/albums/cc356/beleno81/Maximus%20II%20formula/?action=view&current=IMG_2159.jpg)http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc356/beleno81/Maximus%20II%20formula/th_IMG_2168.jpg (http://s527.photobucket.com/albums/cc356/beleno81/Maximus%20II%20formula/?action=view&current=IMG_2168.jpg)
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc356/beleno81/Maximus%20II%20formula/th_IMG_2169.jpg (http://s527.photobucket.com/albums/cc356/beleno81
/Maximus%20II%20formula/?action=view&current=IMG_2169.jpg)http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc356/beleno81/Maximus%20II%20formula/th_IMG_2171.jpg (http://s527.photobucket.com/albums/cc356/beleno81/Maximus%20II%20formula/?action=view&current=IMG_2171.jpg)

here (http://forum.hwproject.net/showthread.php?t=2002&page=9) more photo of my setup

[seban]

I did not use SuperPi before on this rig.

I am getting thus each time at loop 5 - on stock settings and also on 21h P95 blend and 10 IBT stable.

Any body can tell me about this

http://images50.fotosik.pl/41/9e080f4378783940.jpg (www.fotosik.pl)

[loften]

loften, I looked (googled) at numerous posts and although the 'vpu recovery error' has definite similarities to my video issue(s), it does not seem to quite fit, and it looks like the 4870 card has 'crash' problems, with different sets of symptoms, that are resolved in different ways. And also, just because one persons' 4870 has the same symptoms as anothers' 4870, doesn't mean that it can be 'fixed' the same way. I think, after trying many things, that I may have it resolved...I deleted everything ATI/CCC, booted into 'Safe-Mode', used 'Driver Sweeper', and re-installed CCC Suite v8.12 from the desktop (along with bumping-up my NB and Vcore). I noticed that prior to using 'Driver Sweeper', my default clock/memory and gpu clock/memory (GPU-Z) was 500/900:750/900, but now its 750/900:750/900, and GTA runs smooth as silk, not choppy like it was before...maybe ATI will pick-up the ball and straighten-out all the problems users are having with HD48XX's-I seriously thought this was just an issue for the maximus2formula bios (voltages), but it looks like it was 'drivers' too (keeping my fingers crossed)...
didn't want to hijack but yeah keep a eye on it.. i thought it was suspisious as it sounded like the problems i was having with mine.. i have the older maximus and 3870 cards and for months i wondered why my board wasn't stable at any oc or even stock. first raid many hard drives later i put in a single without raid which allowed me to stay stable long enough to start testing things, then ram, then psu, after many days/ months of testing things i finally figured out that i was having vpu errors as the older drivers i was using wouldn't show vpu errors it would just bsod only gaming. the later drivers started showing the vpu errors and also the sound looped and i could see the errors instead of bsod.. i removed the card and borrowed a 8800gts from my bro to test and it wouldn't crash anymore. passed every test no problems at 3.6+ and played games without crashing.. i am still waiting on the ati drivers and or bios that will work with my 2 cards.. i have tried them all even modded ones, different power ram and oses.. still waiting for my fix. have to save up and get a different card to replace these 2 i guess.

[loften]

do they use flux for soldering? could be dried up or burnt on flux..

[CryptiK]

hi guys this is my result in testing max fsb on my mobo

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=466061

setup:
cpu@phase ss 1.2hp
nb@liquid cooling ybris k5

here some photo of my rig

here (http://forum.hwproject.net/showthread.php?t=2002&page=9) more photo of my setup

Nice work! What was the vNB and any other critical settings for that?


I did not use SuperPi before on this rig.

I am getting thus each time at loop 5 - on stock settings and also on 21h P95 blend and 10 IBT stable.

Any body can tell me about this

http://images50.fotosik.pl/41/9e080f4378783940.jpg (www.fotosik.pl)

Probably due to SPI not liking vista, try hyperpi and check the 'audio, solve incompatibility with vista' checkbox.

[radaja]

@cryptik, i never even tried this board.after i opened it and saw that it was warped and clearly used, i just started making calls to asus to rectify the problem.

[Grnfinger]

I did not use SuperPi before on this rig.

I am getting thus each time at loop 5 - on stock settings and also on 21h P95 blend and 10 IBT stable.

Any body can tell me about this

http://images50.fotosik.pl/41/9e080f4378783940.jpg (www.fotosik.pl)

Right click select properties and run in XP compat and admin mode.

[mrb_no1]

hi guys n gals.

my question isnt for the ocing on this board, i have an ample oc from 2.4 to 3.6 on my q6600(air) and am slowly working on the memory as we speak. my problem is sound, where do we get drivers, the ones asus provide say my hardware isnt supported by the software and ends the install, i tried creative but cant find the card and googling doesnt seem to get me anywhere, just wondering if anyone has the same problems and may know of a solution...thanks in advance

peace

fatman

[Musho]

I'm almost there guys! Unfortunally, an C1 stepping plus a fairly high VID isn't a very good combination...:mad::down:The fact I'm all on air doesn't help either :(
I'll get it stable, though! Wish me luck ^^:D

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/Musho-az/bad_CPU.jpg

[Grnfinger]

Guys I need help!

Can anyone give me a reason NOT to get the Striker II Formula?
I havent had a NForce chipset since my A8N SLI Deluxe/FX-60 and would like to give it a go, unless there are issues with the board otherwise I'm getting a Rampage.
Anyone know of issue wich would make this a no go???

Would either run a Q6700 or a E8400, both are collecting dust on my desk.

Thanks

[Musho]

Is anyone else experiencing higher load Vcore than idle Vcore when Load Line Calibration is enabled? Or is this an specific issue with my board? :shrug:

[Grnfinger]

Is anyone else experiencing higher load Vcore than idle Vcore when Load Line Calibration is enabled? Or is this an specific issue with my board? :shrug:

No it's a common thing, mine will overvolt as well

[Musho]

Okay, I couldn't get my CPU stable at the previous Vcore, so I decided to up the Vcore one more notch :p: It looks like I've got a new 24/7 setup! I'll switch to Watercooling in a few days, to make sure my chip won't die anytime soon :rolleyes::D

:up::yepp::clap:
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/Musho-az/notch.jpg

[seban]

Right click select properties and run in XP compat and admin mode.

It is hyperPi and I cant run it in compatibility mode - it will not start at all. As admin did not help.



Probably due to SPI not liking vista, try hyperpi and check the 'audio, solve incompatibility with vista' checkbox.

It is hyper PI I am affriad and option for sound is checked.

But basically if PI does not pass test the error message does not look like this?


Okay, I couldn't get my CPU stable at the previous Vcore, so I decided to up the Vcore one more notch :p: It looks like I've got a new 24/7 setup! I'll switch to Watercooling in a few days, to make sure my chip won't die anytime soon :rolleyes::D


Let it run for 12h Blend and for real stability 24h :) (and it still can be unstable in 3d)

[Musho]

Let it run for 12h Blend and or real stability 24h :) (and it still can be unstable in 3d)

I'll let it run blend tomorrow. It's still priming away small FFTs at the moment, and going strong ;)

[seban]

So I run 4 instances of Super PI and they passed no problem - so It looks like HyperPI does not want to cooperate with my sys - which is kind of crap as it is lot of hassle to run 4 instances and set affinities for each.


I'll let it run blend tomorrow. It's still priming away small FFTs at the moment, and going strong ;)

3h of small FTT should be more then enough. Go for blend it will tell you is your vtt and vnb stable.

This is decryption of errors - which I can confirm is working for me like a charm.

1024 - increase VTT or vNB
896 or 448 - vNB
768, 512, 332 - VTT

[Musho]

So I run 4 instances of Super PI and they passed no problem - so It looks like HyperPI does not want to cooperate with my sys - which is kind of crap as it is lot of hassle to run 4 instances and set affinities for each.



3h of small FTT should be more then enough. Go for blend it will tell you is your vtt and vnb stable.

This is decryption of errors - which I can confirm is working for me like a charm.

1024 - increase VTT or vNB
896 or 448 - vNB
768, 512, 332 - VTT

Thanks, that sounds really helpfull to try and pin down any stability issues that might arrive when I try blend. Is it possible to tell when the ram is the link causing the problems, though? Or should I run memtest first? I'm pushing my ram quite a bit too, it's running at 1140mhz, at PL8 at stronger, with static read control enabled ;)

Anyway, here's the result of the small FFT test :yepp: I'm off to try the stability with some games, as I'm dieing to play now :D I'll run blend soon. I'll keep you guys updated.

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/Musho-az/stable.jpg

[shaffaaf27]

need help OCing my new rig (Q9550)

got an E0 Q9550 from ebuyer, and a maximus II formula, and watercooeld it.

under OCCT my max FSB i can get to pass is 467, but game crash within seconds....

these are my voltages:

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk50/shaffaaf27/Capture-18.png

(btw temps under laod never go above 50 on any core)

[JoeBar]

Guys I need help!

Can anyone give me a reason NOT to get the Striker II Formula?
I havent had a NForce chipset since my A8N SLI Deluxe/FX-60 and would like to give it a go, unless there are issues with the board otherwise I'm getting a Rampage.
Anyone know of issue wich would make this a no go???

Would either run a Q6700 or a E8400, both are collecting dust on my desk.

Thanks
I wouldn't bother with Striker. Rampage is a better option.

[Musho]

need help OCing my new rig (Q9550)

got an E0 Q9550 from ebuyer, and a maximus II formula, and watercooeld it.

under OCCT my max FSB i can get to pass is 467, but game crash within seconds....

these are my voltages:

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk50/shaffaaf27/Capture-18.png

(btw temps under laod never go above 50 on any core)

Get those voltages off of auto! The maximum safe CPU PLL voltage is considered 1.6V. 1.7V is already quite extreme. Yours is at almost 1,8V :eek: Also, I wouldn't go over 1,45 VTT. You're getting close to this value, as you're already at 1,44v. I am using just 1,3v at 8,5x475fsb. Put your CPU and NB clock skews on normal (not auto!) and test if you gain any stability. Also try out (100ps delay on CPU with normal on NB) and (normal on CPU with 100ps delay on NB). Out of these 3 possible combinations, pick the most stable. Set your VTT to 1,4ish. You can back this voltage off later. vNB at 1,45 is indeed a good start, but you should try to get that one down later one, once you get your setup stable. Now you should SLOWLY increase your FSB. You shouldn't have to increase any voltages to get it stable. (you might need up to 1,45v Vcore to get 4ghz stable, though)

Set your NB GTL reference voltage on auto and set CPU GTL reference voltage on auto on all 4 options. While you're working up on the FSB you'll notice cores failing in prime95. Take note of which cores are failing. If core 0 or 1 fail, you'll have to play with CPU GTL reference 0 and CPU GTL reference 2. If core 2 or 3 fail, you'll have to play with CPU GTL reference 1 and 3. Note: GTL reference numbers do NOT represent cores. 2 cores on the same die use the same GTL voltage. Both dies have 2 different GTL voltages. One for the address bus, and one for the data bus. For now, always keep GTL 0 and 2 the same. And keep GTL 1 and 3 the same value too. So you'll have to figure out 2 values. 1 value for both GTL 0 and 2. And one value for both GTL 1 and 3. You can finetune them seperately later. Getting cores stable with GTL is purely trial and error. Every single CPU responds differently to different GTLs, and even different boards have different amounts of vDrop on the GTL lanes. Just trying anything ranging from -70 to +70 till you get all cores stable again, and start moving up again on the FSB, till cores start to fail again. Then you have to tune GTLs again, etc etc

Edit: Use small FFTs to test GTL reference stability in prime95.

[seban]

When to adjust CPU PLL and what is ts influence on other voltages if there is any?


...Is it possible to tell when the ram is the link causing the problems, though? Or should I run memtest first? I'm pushing my ram quite a bit too, it's running at 1140mhz, at PL8 at stronger, with static read control enabled ;)...


If ram passes 3+ of MemTest 86 2.1 then it should not be a problem.

My CPU was stable small FTP at 4ghz at 1.3 but was failing Blend instantly :). Anyway u will get there sooner or later.

[N3it1]

Guys I need help!

Can anyone give me a reason NOT to get the Striker II Formula?



How many reasons do you want? Its nvidia chipset,that alone is enough.

[CryptiK]

Guys I need help!

Can anyone give me a reason NOT to get the Striker II Formula?
I havent had a NForce chipset since my A8N SLI Deluxe/FX-60 and would like to give it a go, unless there are issues with the board otherwise I'm getting a Rampage.
Anyone know of issue wich would make this a no go???

Would either run a Q6700 or a E8400, both are collecting dust on my desk.

Thanks

It's an older outdated chipset to my knowledge, a 790i would be a better choice if you wanted an nvidia chipset as from what I have read it appears to do good FSB and has digital PWM. A Rampage Formula would IMO (based on what I have read) be the best choice from that list of possibilities you have. Have a read through Striker II threads and RF threads and just see what appeals to you most. I've never used either board so I can't give you any direct reasons to go with one over the other.


Is anyone else experiencing higher load Vcore than idle Vcore when Load Line Calibration is enabled? Or is this an specific issue with my board? :shrug:

Yes, as Grnfinger said this is normal behaviour for my board too.


It is hyperPi and I cant run it in compatibility mode - it will not start at all. As admin did not help.



It is hyper PI I am affriad and option for sound is checked.

But basically if PI does not pass test the error message does not look like this?


I have never seen that error message come up, I usually get a hard lock or 'not exact in round' error, but that's not to say it's not a normal message, I just have not personally seen it before. If superpi runs and hyperpi doesn't just go with what works, although somewhat odd - I use XP but I've read in multiple places that SPI doesnt often play nice with vista and hyperpi (and checking the sound box) was the solution to that, your situation is the opposite.

[andressergio]

[QUOTE=CryptiK;3515451I have never seen that error message come up, I usually get a hard lock or 'not exact in round' error, but that's not to say it's not a normal message, I just have not personally seen it before. If superpi runs and hyperpi doesn't just go with what works, although somewhat odd - I use XP but I've read in multiple places that SPI doesnt often play nice with vista and hyperpi (and checking the sound box) was the solution to that, your situation is the opposite.[/QUOTE]


Hey CryptiK :up:

Hyperpi 0.99 is the one that doesn't start at all...0.98 runs fine on VISTA 64 disabling audio...I tried all to make 0.99 but doesn't

Cheers
Sergio

[andressergio]

Hey guys

I'm running this mems fine on 1,9vdimm and 1200Mhz but PL10, i was trying to get them lower but i'm getting all kinds of bios blocks...No post and most times i have to turn of the PSU switch and back...

I tried more NB (till 1,45-1,5) and more vdimm till 2,05 but seems so unstable...

Anyone here that's using that volts on the NB ? or experiencing this ?

I'm lowering Mhz now to 1125 on PL8 and seems much better, will keep testing but i'm kinda shocked as more NB and vdimm seems to be worst...this gskill boot at 1,8 on 1200 on PL10, not stable tough

I tried NB GTL refs and skews but no luck just keep that bios block

Cheers any help i appreciatte

Muchas Felicidades Para Todos en estas Fiestas :up: (Merry Xmas to all !!)
Sergio

[seban]

Hey Tim :up:

Hyperpi 0.99 is the one that doesn't start at all...0.98 runs fine on VISTA 64 disabling audio...I tried all to make 0.99 but doesn't

Cheers
Sergio

Hey thanks for the tip will check 0.98 !

Mary Xmass 2 u2 ;)

[Musho]

When to adjust CPU PLL and what is ts influence on other voltages if there is any?



If ram passes 3+ of MemTest 86 2.1 then it should not be a problem.

My CPU was stable small FTP at 4ghz at 1.3 but was failing Blend instantly :). Anyway u will get there sooner or later.

Damn, very low Vcore you used there! Give me an E0 :p:
I played GTA IV for 30 minutes and then it BSOD'd. I tried blend and it failed instantly :D Turned out 1,32 vNB wasn't quite up the job at running a quad at 475 FSB, with all 4 ram slots occupied, running at 1140mhz, PL8, stronger, static read control enabled. 1,41 vNB is looking good so far, although NB temps are reaching over 50 degrees on stock cooling now. I guess I'll just order Swiftechs NB-max waterblock too, together with my CPU cooling parts.
Thanks for your help mate :up:

[Grnfinger]

I wouldn't bother with Striker. Rampage is a better option.


How many reasons do you want? Its nvidia chipset,that alone is enough.


It's an older outdated chipset to my knowledge, a 790i would be a better choice if you wanted an nvidia chipset as from what I have read it appears to do good FSB and has digital PWM. A Rampage Formula would IMO (based on what I have read) be the best choice from that list of possibilities you have. Have a read through Striker II threads and RF threads and just see what appeals to you most. I've never used either board so I can't give you any direct reasons to go with one over the other.



Thanks for teh input:up:, after spending the day researching Striker II I agree the Rampage is a solid choice.....

[andressergio]

Hey thanks for the tip will check 0.98 !

Mary Xmass 2 u2 ;)

It will work mate :up:

Saludos !
Sergio

[GFORCE100]

It seems many of you guys have been claiming perfect stability with Prime95 Small FFT with the Q9650 however I don't see anyone here noticing that this stability test is pale in the wake of Linx/IntelBurnTest (same thing - Linpack libraries, different GUI). Try running the latter for say 50 loops and I bet some of these overclocks will fall over with either an error or BSOD.

The MF2 is a very picky board to setup at 450MHz FSB and 1200MHz DDR2 I find, especially as I don't consider the PC stable unless it passes Linx. Getting it to pass others (i.e. such as Prime95 FFT) is easy in comparison.

Would be nice to see others confirm this as right now I'm thinking the P45 chipset timings/clock phases must be to blame.

BIOS 1802 here.

[Grnfinger]

50 loops of IBT is crazy. Your only going to kill hardware doing that.
10 loops 20 tops, then a nice prime run will more than suffice anyone.

BTW I have passed 15 loops of IBT and failed Prime in under a hour so to say IBT is the great and all powerfull stress test is rather bold.
PPl's version of stable vary, 10 loops IBT and 8-12 hours Prime and its rock solid imo
This board is easy once you learn how YOUR hardware behaves with the bios tweaks

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/MII_4GHZ.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/10loop_40_stable_1130.jpg

[ViViD]

Hi My Friends
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/466748.png

Valid Link (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=466748)

But Dont Try To Find Max FSB It's Hard To OC Quad On This Board More Than AMD :D

[carepolice]

Hi My Friends
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/466748.png

Valid Link (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=466748)

But Dont Try To Find Max FSB It's Hard To OC Quad On This Board More Than AMD :D

How much vcore that needed ?
Great clock :up:

[SiGfever]

50 loops of IBT is crazy. Your only going to kill hardware doing that.
10 loops 20 tops, then a nice prime run will more than suffice anyone.

BTW I have passed 15 loops of IBT and failed Prime in under a hour so to say IBT is the great and all powerfull stress test is rather bold.
PPl's version of stable vary, 10 loops IBT and 8-12 hours Prime and its rock solid imo
This board is easy once you learn how YOUR hardware behaves with the bios tweaks
QFT! :up:

When you get your Rampage we will surely miss your input and help here my friend. :clap: :clap:

[Grnfinger]

QFT! :up:

When you get your Rampage we will surely miss your input and help here my friend. :clap: :clap:

Oh I'm still keeping the MIIF, it will be nice to finally compare the 2 chipsets myself.
You wont get rid of me that easy:D

[SiGfever]

Oh I'm still keeping the MIIF, it will be nice to finally compare the 2 chipsets myself.
You wont get rid of me that easy:D

:ROTF: :ROTF: :ROTF: :ROTF:

[JoeBar]

Oh I'm still keeping the MIIF, it will be nice to finally compare the 2 chipsets myself.
You wont get rid of me that easy:D
That's good to hear... :)

[seban]

That's good to hear... :)

+1 :)

[Grnfinger]

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/3Dmark06_best.jpg

[seban]

Can any body give me a quick tour on how and when to adjust CPU PLL? are there any symptoms that tell when to do it? Or can it help in not increasing vtt ? :D

PS Probably as most of the time I will discover it myself but maybe some body will point me right direction?

PS2. Christmas is almost here and I am still 4ghz not stable.

[CryptiK]

Grnfinger, very nice 06 score there, those 3870's in crossfire pack a punch.


***********************

I managed to do a couple more runs, and got a bit more efficiency out of it.

SPI32M @ 500 FSB, 600 MHz, PL8

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/SPI32M500FSB600MHz205vdimmLSCenable.jpg

Everest @ 500 FSB, 600 MHz, PL8 (same settings as SPI32M run)

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/everest500FSB600MHz205vdimmLSCenabl.jpg

SPI32M @ 534 FSB, 640 MHz, PL8

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/SPI32M534FSB640MHz228vdimmLSCenable.jpg

Everest @ 534 FSB, 640 MHz, PL8 (same settings as SPI32M run)

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii265/timbosan/everest534FSB640MHz228vdimmLSCenabl.jpg

[seban]

...I managed to do a couple more runs, and got a bit more efficiency out of it....

Very impressive scores CryptiK :up:

[ViViD]

How much vcore that needed ?
Great clock :up:

Use 1.645V On Cpu Voltage It's Too :shocked: :D
Tanx M8

[andressergio]

I managed to do a couple more runs, and got a bit more efficiency out of it.

SPI32M @ 500 FSB, 600 MHz, PL8
Everest @ 500 FSB, 600 MHz, PL8 (same settings as SPI32M run)
SPI32M @ 534 FSB, 640 MHz, PL8
Everest @ 534 FSB, 640 MHz, PL8 (same settings as SPI32M run)



jeje nice results my friend !!! :up:

Saludos Amigo !
Sergio

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger, very nice 06 score there, those 3870's in crossfire pack a punch.


***********************

I managed to do a couple more runs, and got a bit more efficiency out of it.

SPI32M @ 500 FSB, 600 MHz, PL8



Everest @ 500 FSB, 600 MHz, PL8 (same settings as SPI32M run)



SPI32M @ 534 FSB, 640 MHz, PL8



Everest @ 534 FSB, 640 MHz, PL8 (same settings as SPI32M run)



Impressive:up:

I'm tempted to toss a 8400 in today and play around