Abit IP45 Pro image, spec and feedback of course !

[AbitUK]

What do you think?
It should be available by the 1st week of July.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1057/p45proimagetopgb3.jpg

[AbitUK]

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8133/p45proimageanglewq6.jpg

[MomijiTMO]

Looks good :up:

Hopefully this board will preform close to, if not better than the rest.

[AbitUK]

IP45 Pro
Intel P45 Based LGA775 ATX Mainboard, FSB1600
Dual DDR2 1200, Dual X8 CrossFire, SATA RAID, IEEE1394, HD 7.1,
Silent OTES & μGuruTM Tech, Vista Premium HW Ready
Specification:
CPU
�� Designed for Intel® latest 45nm processors with
1600MHz FSB
�� Support Intel Core 2 Extreme & Core 2 Quad &
Core 2 Duo & Pentium® Dual Core & Celeron
Dual Core
Chipset
�� Intel® P45 / ICH10R Chipset
Memory
�� 4 X 240-pin DIMM sockets support max. memory
capacity 8GB
�� Supports Dual channel DDR2 1200/1066
Un-buffered Non-ECC memory
LAN
�� On board PCI-E Gigabit LAN controller supports
10/100/1000M Ethernet
Audio
�� On board 7.1 CH HD Audio CODEC
�� Optical S/P DIF Out, RCA Out
�� HDMI Audio ready header
Expansion Slots
�� 2 x PCIE X16 (Support DualX8 CrossFire), 2 x
PCIE X1, 2 x PCI
Internal I/O
�� 1 x Floppy Port supports up to 2.88 MB
�� 1 x ATA 133 IDE connector , 1 x FP-Audio
�� 6 x SATA 3Gb/s connector
�� 2 x IEEE1394, 2 x USB header (support 4 ports)
Back Panel I/O
�� 1 x PS/2 Keyboard
�� abit OTESTM
�� 1 x S/P DIF Out, 1 x RCA Out, 2 x eSATA
�� 7.1 CH Audio connector (Front, Line-in, MIC-in,
Center/Subwoofer, Surround, Rear Surround)
�� 8 x USB 2.0, 1 x RJ-45 LAN connectors
�� 1 x IEEE1394
�� EZ CCMOS Button
Serial ATA
�� 6 x SATA 3Gb/s offer by Intel® ICH10R support
Intel® Matrix Storage Tech(AHCI & RAID0/1/5/10)
�� 2 x SATA 3Gb/s offer by JMicron® JMB363
support up to 0,1,JBOD RAID function
IEEE1394
�� Supports 2 Ports IEEE 1394a at 400Mb/s
abit Engineered
�� abit μGuruTM Technology
�� abit Silent OTESTM
�� 100% Low ESR solid capacitor
�� Quick Power/Reset button
�� EZ for CCMOS button
�� Right angle SATA connector
Form Factor
�� ATX form factor 305 x 245mm
�� PCB Color: Blue
RoHS
�� 100% lead-free process and RoHS Compliant
Accessory
�� 1 x Driver CD, 1 x English Manual
�� 1 x Jumper Setting Label
�� 1 x IDE cable, 1 x FDD cable, 6 x SATA cable

[RobPuba]

Looks AweSome........:up::up::up:

[scooter.jay]

Looks like a good board.:up:

[fluke420]

It's about time they put some decent cooling on the pwm's. The p35 pro with a q6600 is terrible.

[[XC] DragonOrta]

From working with both the Abit and Gigabyte P35 series, I definitely prefer Abit. And the ASUS boards I've tried really weren't all they were cracked up to be.

[Corsa]

DFI DK series isn't available here in Aus, so best bang for buck is the IP PRO.... and the 45 looks impressive Mr.Nathan :up:

ps. can it update bios safely thru windows yet :rolleyes:

[rusty]

what happened to IP45 Max ?

[WrigleyVillain]

It's about time they put some decent cooling on the pwm's. The p35 pro with a q6600 is terrible.

+1. Only complaint about my IP35 Pro.


ps. can it update bios safely thru windows yet :rolleyes:

That's a contradiction in terms.

[chatmaster]

Yes this board looks good. Tell me about the power circutry for the CPU is that an 8 phase PWM circuts?

Any idea of the price point?

[gilgamesh1]

Yes this board looks good. Tell me about the power circutry for the CPU is that an 8 phase PWM circuts?

Any idea of the price point?

Yes mate it is eight phase

gilgamesh

[Woland]

+1. Only complaint about my IP35 Pro.



That's a contradiction in terms.
That´s funny ;)

[RealTelstar]

What do you think?
It should be available by the 1st week of July.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1057/p45proimagetopgb3.jpg

Seems good but the chipset cooler is a bit too bulky for my tastes.
My vote goes for the dfi

[Bobsama]

The thing I most dislike about heatsinks these days--they all have a "top" cover. I think it looks stupid and it interferes with airflow directly on the board. I have a heatsink tower, meaning that on my IP35-E, the northbridge has less airflow. I have a 36cm side fan on my case--meaning that all air flows directly down to the board. I would personally prefer if those "top covers" were removable, since not many enthusiasts seem to be using after-market heatsinks that have air flowing down.

[AbitUK]

Yes this board looks good. Tell me about the power circutry for the CPU is that an 8 phase PWM circuts?

Any idea of the price point?



Not 100% on price point yet, so would rather not say, I am sure it will be online by the end of the month.

[RealTelstar]

The thing I most dislike about heatsinks these days--they all have a "top" cover.

Yeah, one of the reasons I bought the rampage.

[zanzabar]

is there any chance of abit going digital pwm and multi phase ram (i cant load the top image all the way so i cant tell on the ram)

[boblemagnifique]

sexy :D

[Glow9]

wheres the cmos reset switch? I like it, if I had money to throw around or needed one I'd pick it up. But why are the heat sinks covered with logo things? Can you pop them off easy I rather have some airflow hot them

[chatmaster]

Not 100% on price point yet, so would rather not say, I am sure it will be online by the end of the month.

is there any chance of abit going digital pwm and multi phase ram (i cant load the top image all the way so i cant tell on the ram)

I thought this board was digital PWM, just like the IP35 series.

What is the difference between digital PWM and non digital PWM?

[lefy]

It's about time they put some decent cooling on the pwm's. The p35 pro with a q6600 is terrible.

+1 again

can this board concurrently run a vga card at x16 and a RAID controller at x8?

[metro.cl]

pci-expres 1x has a terrible layout.

[Movieman]

The thing I most dislike about heatsinks these days--they all have a "top" cover. I think it looks stupid and it interferes with airflow directly on the board. I have a heatsink tower, meaning that on my IP35-E, the northbridge has less airflow. I have a 36cm side fan on my case--meaning that all air flows directly down to the board. I would personally prefer if those "top covers" were removable, since not many enthusiasts seem to be using after-market heatsinks that have air flowing down.

^^:up:
Agreed, why can't companies stop looking at pretty and start looking at function. Use an old fashioned cooler that we can screw a fan into or God forbid, have the company do it that way and not a wimpy fan but something of substance.
All my boards have fans on both NB and SB and no heat issues.
If you want tgo have that plate for the masses that use the board stock then fine but attach it in a way where it can be removed.
Maybe some nylon hold downs that can be cut and tossed..
Other than that nice looking board..

[Corsa]

I think u will find that the top covers on heatsinks are there for legal reasons...

[irev210]

If it OC's anything like the IP35 PRO did, this will be a winner.

Hopefully this improves on the IP35 PRO and can yield some high FSB on Yorkies.

IP35 PRO never scored top marks for OC, but man it a breeze to use and abit uGURU was awesome. One of the best values was the fact that you could adjust the PWM fans to your liking, something only ABIT lets you do :)

Fingers cross for a great board so ABIT stays around.

[BenchZowner]

If it's better in terms of FSB overclocking with the 45nm CPUs, has more options available in BIOS, and better voltage regulation, then it'll be another success story, even bigger than the IP35 Pro's.

[AbitUK]

wheres the cmos reset switch? I like it, if I had money to throw around or needed one I'd pick it up. But why are the heat sinks covered with logo things? Can you pop them off easy I rather have some airflow hot them


Check out the (angled) picture you will see it there.

Sorry, I have no idea but i reckon the answer will be no.

[gilgamesh1]

DFI DK series isn't available here in Aus, so best bang for buck is the IP PRO.... and the 45 looks impressive Mr.Nathan :up:

ps. can it update bios safely thru windows yet :rolleyes:


People have been know nto update safely though windows. However I never recommend it, always update through msdos its safer and you have a better degree of control.

No matter how good a windows flash utility is, it will always be more safe to flash using msdos. The reason for this is that there are thousands of variables to that could mess up the flash in Windows.


gilgamesh

[gilgamesh1]

what happened to IP45 Max ?

IP45 MAX is the ddr3 version that will be coming out at around the same time i belieive

gilgamesh

[chatmaster]

Is this board digital PWM or not digital? (IP35 uses digital PWM)

[Heidfirst]

IP35 is analogue PWM, IX38/48 is digital.
Looks like IP45 is analogue.

[Ace-a-Rue]

IP45 MAX is the ddr3 version that will be coming out at around the same time i belieive

gilgamesh

i don't think that is correct...the last i saw it is going to be IP45 GT3 as the ddr3 version...and...the ddr2 version will be the IP45 Pro...the MAX stays with X48 chipset unless they abandon making an X48 board.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3024294&postcount=6430

[jcool]

IP35 is analogue PWM, IX38/48 is digital.
Looks like IP45 is analogue.

That's right. Wonder why so many people believe the IP35 Pro has digital PWMs?! I mean it's very easy to spot... boards that use digital PWM have one (Abit) or two (DFI) phase/pulse chips and not those square blocks (one per phase).

IP35 - 4 phase analog
AB9 QuadGT/IN9-32X max/IX38 - all 5 phase digital pwm
IP45 Pro - 8 phase analog

Beware of the IX38 though, my Q6600 killed two of them within a month because they can't hold the current, an Abit rep. inofficially told me at Cebit that the board was designed for a max of ~80A drawn. Of course, my Q6600 was way above that (as is any overclocked 65nm quad, for that matter), I think it drained 126A according to the µguru reading which is actually quite accurate.

About the IP45 Pro, I think it's perfect. If they took the IP35 pro, made only small adjustments to bios and pimped the power circuitery and cooling, then this mobo is gonna rock.
The IP35 pro is one of the very few mobos out there that really work flawlessly, something that is hard to find in today's market.

[Sleepyzone]

[QUOTE=Movieman;3056206]^^:up:
Agreed, why can't companies stop looking at pretty and start looking at function. Use an old fashioned cooler that we can screw a fan into or God forbid, have the company do it that way and not a wimpy fan but something of substance.

My abit pro is still going strong after a year, but I got to say I still take the cover off my backup computer and look at it http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?Image=13-128-046-02.jpg%2c13-128-046-03.jpg%2c13-128-046-04.jpg%2c13-128-046-05.jpg%2c13-128-046-06.jpg%2c13-128-046-07.jpg%2c13-128-046-08.jpg&S7ImageFlag=0&WaterMark=1&Item=N82E16813128046&Depa=1&Description=GIGABYTE+GA-P35-DQ6+ATX+Intel+Motherboard it just looks so cool. :) But the new Abit looks kinda cool :)

[Ace-a-Rue]

Beware of the IX38 though, my Q6600 killed two of them within a month because they can't hold the current, an Abit rep. inofficially told me at Cebit that the board was designed for a max of ~80A drawn. Of course, my Q6600 was way above that (as is any overclocked 65nm quad, for that matter), I think it drained 126A according to the µguru reading which is actually quite accurate.

the reason for your two boards dying is that you maintained a 100% on all four cores with a very high overclock...and that my friend, wasn't the design of any board, at least not with the IX38.

[jcool]

Damn Ace, you must be the most hardcore Abit fan I know :D
Like I said, I spoke with the Abit rep at Cebit and he kinda admitted the PWMs were underpowered. Come on, 80A is nothing and will be reached with almost any 65nm CPU as soon as you go over 3Ghz. And I say it again, 3,6Ghz isn't a "very high overclock", at least not here at XS. So if it holds 2 weeks at 3,6Ghz, it holds 2 month at 3Ghz, nothing more. What do you think your QX eats at 4Ghz? Less than 80A? I don't think so ;)
And yet the IP35 Pro holds... it might squeal a bit and Vdroop but it holds, even though its PWM circuitery is weaker then that of the IX38... in theory.
I do love Abit, but the IX38 just isn't a good board for overclocking. Sorry but that's the way it is... I'm not all happy with my DFI, but at least it keeps holding at 4Ghz 24/7...

[silverphoenix]

My IP35Pro's been running my Q6600 at 3.6ghz for a long while now, and I fold so it is constantly loaded. I love my abit, I have only 2 complaints, 1 is that the esata is really finicky and 2nd is I had an older P965 quad gt, when I RMA'ed it took 1 month to approve RMA then another close to 2 months to get it back after I sent it out.

[zanzabar]

I thought this board was digital PWM, just like the IP35 series.

What is the difference between digital PWM and non digital PWM?

the digital pwms turn on and off in a square wave so with 4 or more u can tune it so that its constantly at a solid voltage, but analogue it makes a wave sign, so its harder to properly tune so its got more fluctuation

[Ace-a-Rue]

Damn Ace, you must be the most hardcore Abit fan I know :D
Like I said, I spoke with the Abit rep at Cebit and he kinda admitted the PWMs were underpowered. Come on, 80A is nothing and will be reached with almost any 65nm CPU as soon as you go over 3Ghz. And I say it again, 3,6Ghz isn't a "very high overclock", at least not here at XS. So if it holds 2 weeks at 3,6Ghz, it holds 2 month at 3Ghz, nothing more. What do you think your QX eats at 4Ghz? Less than 80A? I don't think so ;)
And yet the IP35 Pro holds... it might squeal a bit and Vdroop but it holds, even though its PWM circuitery is weaker then that of the IX38... in theory.
I do love Abit, but the IX38 just isn't a good board for overclocking. Sorry but that's the way it is... I'm not all happy with my DFI, but at least it keeps holding at 4Ghz 24/7...

ok...i might of been a little hard on you:D;)

but...holding four cores at 100% core load, 24/7 at 3.6 ghz overclock, is very tough on the board...did i remember incorrectly your posting that you were doing a 24/7, 100% core load at 3.6 ghz overclock?

i like abit very much...i just wish they would speed up their marketing process for all their upcoming boards.

[Nomadsoul]

Awesome, GO Abit GO. :up:

[davewolfs]

I recently read that Abit will be getting out of the motherboard business depending on the sales of the P-45 boards. Is there any truth to this?

[alpha0ne]

I really hope they fix the Vdroop problem that the IP35 Pro suffered soooo badly from :shakes:

[hokiealumnus]

I recently read that Abit will be getting out of the motherboard business depending on the sales of the P-45 boards. Is there any truth to this?

There was a whole thread on this nonsense. Anyway, here's the copy/paste for you:
This rumor has been denounced by abit. (Source (http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=431742#post431742).)
Univeral abit denies quitting motherboard business after intel P45

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

We managed to catch our PR contacts before they are off for the day. Their immediate reactions is that we should not believe in such rumours.

Thore Welling, Universal ABIT Global Marketing Director points out: “ abit is a well established and strong brand within the enthusiast and high-end motherboard and components industry. In fact, particularly over the past 12 months we have been able to considerably increase market share not only in traditional markets such as Western Europe, but even stronger so in emerging markets such as East Asia as well as in the Middle East. Therefore, the broadening of our product lines into the Consumer Electronics (digital photo frames with integrated photo printer {FunFab} and MIDs) segment represents a stronger commitment to the overall brand and the continuation of our motherboard concept into other products. abit stays committed to motherboards and has a broad lineup of motherboards ready, as you will see in during Computex.”
Thanks to Nelly for posting this @ the abit forums. Move along...nothing to see here. :horse:

[NinjaZX6R]

Guys call me crazy, but it looks like the actual CPU socket itself is copper. Am I just seeing things? Is my monitor adjusted wrong?

-Collin-

[strange|ife]

good news on 8 phase analog!

hope this board performs, and is priced under 200..might just upgrade before end of year for the heck of it, have this CC laying around..need to use it!

[strange|ife]

Damn Ace, you must be the most hardcore Abit fan I know :D
Like I said, I spoke with the Abit rep at Cebit and he kinda admitted the PWMs were underpowered. Come on, 80A is nothing and will be reached with almost any 65nm CPU as soon as you go over 3Ghz. And I say it again, 3,6Ghz isn't a "very high overclock", at least not here at XS. So if it holds 2 weeks at 3,6Ghz, it holds 2 month at 3Ghz, nothing more. What do you think your QX eats at 4Ghz? Less than 80A? I don't think so ;)
And yet the IP35 Pro holds... it might squeal a bit and Vdroop but it holds, even though its PWM circuitery is weaker then that of the IX38... in theory.
I do love Abit, but the IX38 just isn't a good board for overclocking. Sorry but that's the way it is... I'm not all happy with my DFI, but at least it keeps holding at 4Ghz 24/7...


my ip35 pro has been at 3.6 for a year now?

or are you talking about other boards

[jcool]

ok...i might of been a little hard on you:D;)

but...holding four cores at 100% core load, 24/7 at 3.6 ghz overclock, is very tough on the board...did i remember incorrectly your posting that you were doing a 24/7, 100% core load at 3.6 ghz overclock?

i like abit very much...i just wish they would speed up their marketing process for all their upcoming boards.

No, you were correct, it was 3,6Ghz with the IX38. I run boinc on any and all rigs 24/7 if possible. Now running the same CPU at 4Ghz under SS on the DFI... it eats 250W under prime and ~220W with boinc (CPU alone, lol). But the DFI holds, thank god :rolleyes:

@strangelife: Read again - I'm talking about the IX38 dying ;)

[Ace-a-Rue]

I really hope they fix the Vdroop problem that the IP35 Pro suffered soooo badly from :shakes:

well...your "soooo badly" assesment of the vdroop is overblowned for the IP35 Pro...just to explain this again...you DO NOT measure Vdroop by figuring the difference between bios set vcore and full load vcore...the difference should be measured from Idle Vcore in windows and then full load Vcore in windows...that said, i had a maximum of 0.04 Vdroop under full load at 3.8 ghz when i was doing a P95 event..RESPECTABLE vdroop in my mind!

[Ace-a-Rue]

I recently read that Abit will be getting out of the motherboard business depending on the sales of the P-45 boards. Is there any truth to this?

There was a whole thread on this nonsense. Anyway, here's the copy/paste for you:
This rumor has been denounced by abit. (Source (http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=431742#post431742).)

Thanks to Nelly for posting this @ the abit forums. Move along...nothing to see here. :horse:

it is amazing how this crap starts...if i were to venture a guess, it was proably a competitor trying to shake confidence in Abit's tenacity to compete...if you start hearing that they might get out of the board making business most likely people would possibly not buy the last board.

obviously Abit is putting the 'hurts' on one of its competitior especially after the success of the IP35 Pro...IMHO, it is the best P35 board out there!

[WrigleyVillain]

Abit should hire you Ace. :up:

[Ace-a-Rue]

grin:D

[Nelly]

I wish Abit would actually post details on their website of the P45 motherboard range at least. How are they supposed to gouge interest in their products if their isnt any official details on their website. :confused:

Hell they havent even published on their website details for the Abit X48-Max yet, their marketing dept need replacing. :down:

We dont even know exactly when any of the new products are going to be released, when is the X48-MAX, IP45-PRO, IP45-MAX etc going to be released?

I dont honestly know if I can be prepared to wait another month, two months, three months when other manufacturers are already releasing their motherboards.

[berk]

I'm not gonna change my mind on the current heat-pipe solutions.Under-performing, cosmetic crap springs to mind.
Hope the board overclocks quads well though,thats my next upgrade....:)

[Ace-a-Rue]

What do you think?
It should be available by the 1st week of July.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1057/p45proimagetopgb3.jpg

I wish Abit would actually post details on their website of the P45 motherboard range at least. How are they supposed to gouge interest in their products if their isnt any official details on their website. :confused:

Hell they havent even published on their website details for the Abit X48-Max yet, their marketing dept need replacing. :down:

We dont even know exactly when any of the new products are going to be released, when is the X48-MAX, IP45-PRO, IP45-MAX etc going to be released?

I dont honestly know if I can be prepared to wait another month, two months, three months when other manufacturers are already releasing their motherboards.

i am hoping AbitUK is in the KNOW!;)

[Ace-a-Rue]

i just emailed Taiwan sales and marketing...asked them to come to this thread and give us some info.

here is my email:


SUBJECT: IP45 PRO AND IP45 GT3

over here in the USA and UK, many of us are getting impatient about the release dragging on with the two subject boards...please be more pro-active in getting out release dates to the USA.

if you can come over to FUGGER's forum website and post the expecting release dates for the UK and USA, i am sure that it would help with your sales and image.

here is the link to the IP45 Pro thread at Xtremesystems.org forum: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=3069076&posted=1#post3069076

sincerely yours,

[Ace-a-Rue]

will Abit answer us?...that is the question of the day!

[SiGfever]

I look forward to the reviews on the IP45 Pro. But please, uncover the NB & SB so we can get some decent airflow on them.

My IP35 Pro runs 24/7 @3.51Ghz with all four cores fully loaded (WCG). This is one sweet board and my thanks to Ace for helping so many people get the most out of the Pro. :clap:

[alpha0ne]

well...your "soooo badly" assesment of the vdroop is overblowned for the IP35 Pro

Stop playing the Abit SHILL Ace and remember, your not the only one to have owned the IP35 Pro so enough of the condescending replies :rolleyes:

[Leeghoofd]

Maybe Alpha one refers to Vdrop...

Vdrop: When you select a Voltage setting from the BIOS, and the real voltage applied is less than the selected voltage

Vdroop: If the voltage flunctuates from idle to load, then the difference between the idle & load voltage value is named after Vdroop

[chatmaster]

Really hanging out for the release of this board, Why are Abit the ones who are so poor with their marketing?

DFI have a x48 DK model that is supposed to be digital PWM and from the photos I cant see the controller chips like you see with the lanparty UT.

[AbitUK]

Man, you lot are vultures :eek:

I have been on the road for a couple of days and look what I come back to :shrug:

I will read it properly tonight once I have finsihsed the day I am paid for :D

The general sensus I got was you want to know where our P45 range is.

Well, It is due to be released next week

I will be working on getting everyone up and running with images,specs and prices this week.

I have just chased our web team to find out why and when.

Speak later

Regards
Nathan

[tarantul]

Ok.i am waitng for info from Nathan. hurry up Abit!! we want this mobo in our hands. lol

[rusty]

need info on gt3 version and the price hopefully.

[shoman24v]

They really didn't need to make the SATA connectors parallel to the motherboard. They took a terrible design and carried over to the next model.

[Philly_Boy]

i don't think that is correct...the last i saw it is going to be IP45 GT3 as the ddr3 version...and...the ddr2 version will be the IP45 Pro...the MAX stays with X48 chipset unless they abandon making an X48 board.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3024294&postcount=6430

Man, you lot are vultures :eek:

I have been on the road for a couple of days and look what I come back to :shrug:

I will read it properly tonight once I have finsihsed the day I am paid for :D

The general sensus I got was you want to know where our P45 range is.

Well, It is due to be released next week

I will be working on getting everyone up and running with images,specs and prices this week.

I have just chased our web team to find out why and when.

Speak later

Regards
Nathan
Yes, I am also waiting on info for this. I didn't realize the PRO version worked with DDR2. This will replace my IP-35 PRO in my long term crunching #2 rig. I will ask June the Taiwan marketing rep tonight for info on release dates as well.

Ace - Did you hear back from your contact yet?

[Ace-a-Rue]

i am not on the inner circle of abit...in fact, not even in the "circle"...LOL:D

to answer your question, no reply on my email to sales and marketing in Taiwan...i see that AbitUK is going to give us some difinitive input very shortly after he gets over his surprise on how an angry group of hardware buffs can be!:D

[Ace-a-Rue]

Stop playing the Abit SHILL Ace and remember, your not the only one to have owned the IP35 Pro so enough of the condescending replies :rolleyes:

man...a bit sensitive about my comment when you or whoever used the "soooo badly" phrase...don't you think that is a bit hypocritical!:down:

[Philly_Boy]

i am not on the inner circle of abit...in fact, not even in the "circle"...LOL:D

to answer your question, no reply on my email to sales and marketing in Taiwan...i see that AbitUK is going to give us some difinitive input very shortly after he gets over his surprise on how an angry group of hardware buffs can be!:D
Dude...you are tops in my book for all you did to promote the IP 35 PRO....I actually got in trouble recently when I RMA'd a board and forgot to remove the bolt mod....had it there so long I thought that's the way they came...:rolleyes:

[Heidfirst]

They really didn't need to make the SATA connectors parallel to the motherboard. They took a terrible design and carried over to the next model.
imo most people prefer it that way & certainly other companies seem to be doing it more too.

of course if you have a case that has little room & the HDDs are hard up against the connectors then yes, it's a pain but so is not being able to use ports because a gfx card covers them up ...

[Ace-a-Rue]

Dude...you are tops in my book for all you did to promote the IP 35 PRO

many thanks for the very positive words.:up:

....I actually got in trouble recently when I RMA'd a board and forgot to remove the bolt mod....had it there so long I thought that's the way they came...:rolleyes:

that is funny...but hey, abit finally figured out that you had your heart in the right place; you were just trying to maker the board better.;)

[tarantul]

any news about the release date?? i want this mb asap :cool:

[Philly_Boy]

any news about the release date?? i want this mb asap :cool:
My ABIT contact is saying 2 weeks...

[chatmaster]

All models released at the same time or 1 by 1.

I'm really hoping this will be able to handle the extra power of OC cpu's unlike the IX38.

[Nelly]

Any news yet, IX48-Max still not in shops anywhere.

I'm interested in the Abit IP45-MAX, but if the Abit IP45 Pro is released sooner, I'll stick with DDR2 besides DDR3 is pretty much a waste of money.

Ace. . . did you get a reply from Abit, I bet you didnt they never reply when I've e-mailed them in the past.

Keep this up Abit & most people will get fedup & buy alternative motherboards. :down:

[Nelly]

Just got this bit of info, not sure if its accurate.
Nelly, here is the answer that I got form the UK Abit Rep.

Hi Doc_D,

I have only been with Abit for 5 weeks now so my knowledge is limited.

As I see it, we had many issues with the BIOS of X48 and whilst we continued to work on it, P45 became our focus and we had to put X48 to the back of the queue.

I am sure you can appreciate that P45 will outsell X48 many times over and so this decision had to be made.

I still believe we will endeavour to release X48

Clunk is very lucky to have people from as far away as Japan attending the forum.

Regards

@@@@@
source
http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/rants/6470-abit-give-us-update-abit-ix48-max.html

[Ace-a-Rue]

Any news yet, IX48-Max still not in shops anywhere.

I'm interested in the Abit IP45-MAX, but if the Abit IP45 Pro is released sooner, I'll stick with DDR2 besides DDR3 is pretty much a waste of money.

eeeeh, i think DDR3 is faster; maybe slightly, but faster.

Ace. . . did you get a reply from Abit, I bet you didnt they never reply when I've e-mailed them in the past.

Keep this up Abit & most people will get fedup & buy alternative motherboards. :down:

NO!..no reply...typical i guess.:down:

[gilgamesh1]

Just got this bit of info, not sure if its accurate.

I have official word.
release date of ip35 pro (ddr2) has been put back to week 26 (2nd week in July) max version one month after:D

Ehup Nelly!

gilgamesh

[Heidfirst]

Ace. . . did you get a reply from Abit, I bet you didnt they never reply when I've e-mailed them in the past.

Keep this up Abit & most people will get fedup & buy alternative motherboards. :down:

No company is going to tell an individual consumer things that they aren't willing to release more publically as well.

[Nelly]

Just noticed this, I'm guessing this is Pre-Order:-

http://www.advancetec.co.uk/acatalog/ABIT_775.html

Abit IP45 Pro 775 FSB1600 DDR2 Dual X8 CrossFire SATA RAID IEEE1394 7.1 Snd Motherboard
Manufacturer Code: IP45 Pro
Price: £91.00 (£106.93 Inc VAT)

eeeeh, i think DDR3 is faster; maybe slightly, but faster.Yeah your right, about 2-3 fps in games & thats if your using 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) anything less is a waste of money, as a comparison - Here in UK:

1066MHz PC2-8500 (DDR2) - £74.73 Inc VAT ($148.52) :up:
1600MHz PC3-12800 (DDR3) - £182.07 Inc VAT ($361.86) :down:

2.1 volts vs. 1.8 volts, around 10 Watts difference, no big deal there either.

To put things in context, I could sell my 8800GTX & buy an ATI HD 4870 for the above price difference & gain between 10 - 40 FPS in games at 1920x1200 resolution.

No company is going to tell an individual consumer things that they aren't willing to release more publically as well.
It's not that, they could have acknowledged Ace's e-mail with a reply even to say they don’t have the info yet out of pure curtsey.

I have official word.
release date of ip35 pro (ddr2) has been put back to week 26 (2nd week in July) max version one month after:D

Ehup Nelly!

gilgamesh
lol, I'll believe it when I see it *waits impatiently* :)

I wasnt waiting for the Abit IX48-MAX but it's been a total shambles in terms of them releasing this.

[chatmaster]

2nd week in july... whats the hold up?

[AbitUK]

Hi all,

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

It looks like you have the answers now from Gilgamesh,,,,thanks mate.


Not a moan...

For those of you that think contacting HQ will get you anything but frustrated, take a word of advise from someone who has been working for Chinese and Taiwanese companies for around 7 years now.

DON'T DO IT!

If you haven't got a working relationship with us, it's not happening, if you have got a working relationship with us, your under NDA!

Like heidfirst said, no-one is ever going to tell someone outside of our company on a whim, what our strategy is.
You could be anyone. We may have an issue. There are many more reasons but I best stop there.

Next time try saying your Bill Gates, that might work!!

Anyway, I understand your frustration, please be patient, I am sure most of you are waiting on the reviews to come out and I can assure you that reviews will be posted here within days of their arrival.

Sorry for the delay

regards

Nathan

[Ace-a-Rue]

Hi all,

For those of you that think contacting HQ will get you anything but frustrated, take a word of advise from someone who has been working for Chinese and Taiwanese companies for around 7 years now.

DON'T DO IT!

If you haven't got a working relationship with us, it's not happening, if you have got a working relationship with us, your under NDA!

Like heidfirst said, no-one is ever going to tell someone outside of our company on a whim, what our strategy is.
You could be anyone. We may have an issue. There are many more reasons but I best stop there.

i am sorry mate but that is weak tit excuse for a piss poor company strategy for lack of communication and marketing!...i appreciate your trying to make us understand but it falls on MANY deaf ears here in XS!

[krille]

The thing I most dislike about heatsinks these days--they all have a "top" cover. I think it looks stupid and it interferes with airflow directly on the board. /.../ I would personally prefer if those "top covers" were removableMy first thoughts as well.

^^:up:
Agreed, why can't companies stop looking at pretty and start looking at function. Use an old fashioned cooler that we can screw a fan into or God forbid, have the company do it that way and not a wimpy fan but something of substance.
/.../If you want to have that plate for the masses that use the board stock then fine but attach it in a way where it can be removed.
Maybe some nylon hold downs that can be cut and tossed..NOISE ≠ FUNCTIONALITY
Try to look beyond yourself and XS. You should take a walk over to SilentPCReview.com forums to get some perspective.

Abit has the best BIOS fan controller for a reason.

I agree completely with the non-bold parts however.

[ChuckM]

This is now on abit's site, glad I couldn't get the Ip35 Pro yet.
http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=IP45+Pro&fMTYPE=LGA775

[Ace-a-Rue]

glad they finally got the message from their customer base.

[Pntgrd]

I can see this is going to be an expensive year for 'puter parts. !st had to ditch the Tracers after 4 rma's. Then I just had to get 2 wd6400AAKS's to do the Matrix thing. And then ATI just had to release the 4870. And now I read this. Oh well, you gotta spend your $$ somewhere :shrug:

[Ace-a-Rue]

perfect way to spend your stimulus check:D

[Pntgrd]

perfect way to spend your stimulus check:DThat would be great except my Wife already spent Her's and Mine :shrug:. Only thing about this board I question is that the pciE slots only do 8x in Xfire. Is that the same on the X48's? I ask since maybe one 4870 can lead to another down the road. It seems to some that the 8x will bottleneck the 4870's.

[mop231]

can I get one for tests ? :D can I ? say I can :D gimme gimme :ROTF:

[Glow9]

Why aren't they releasing a x48 board?

[LogAn'sRun]

if it's on ABIT's website, does that mean retailers have gotten stock, or is it just a teaser and won't be released fro a couple more weeks?

[mop231]

I've seen it in one shop ;) was cheap like p35 but now its @ "normal" price :(

[JuliM]

That would be great except my Wife already spent Her's and Mine :shrug:. Only thing about this board I question is that the pciE slots only do 8x in Xfire. Is that the same on the X48's? I ask since maybe one 4870 can lead to another down the road. It seems to some that the 8x will bottleneck the 4870's.

PCIe 2.0 has double bandwidth as PCIe 1.1, so dual PCIe 8x is quite the same as dual PCIe1.1 16x. There won´t be a bottleneck.

[Pntgrd]

PCIe 2.0 has double bandwidth as PCIe 1.1, so dual PCIe 8x is quite the same as dual PCIe1.1 16x. There won´t be a bottleneck.
That is really too bad ;) I am trying to find some reason to not HAVE TO get one of these. :yepp:

[Ace-a-Rue]

Lol:D

[Bobsama]

I think u will find that the top covers on heatsinks are there for legal reasons...
What legal reasons? :shrug:

My first thoughts as well.

NOISE ≠ FUNCTIONALITY
Try to look beyond yourself and XS. You should take a walk over to SilentPCReview.com forums to get some perspective.

Abit has the best BIOS fan controller for a reason.

I agree completely with the non-bold parts however.
I just dislike it--and open-top heatsinks allow for both top-down heatsinks and larger fans to be used. I would rather not have to pop 40mm fans into my case just to get better airflow over the Northbridge. Seriously--how hard is it to use simple heatsinks that go with both airflows of top-down coolers and tower coolers?

By the way--Movieman is a cruncher--basically every computer he has is running 24/7/365 doing WCG. HE has different needs. If I was in his position, I'd still want all open-top designs! They're simply more functional for all types of systems.

^^:up:
Agreed, why can't companies stop looking at pretty and start looking at function. Use an old fashioned cooler that we can screw a fan into or God forbid, have the company do it that way and not a wimpy fan but something of substance.
All my boards have fans on both NB and SB and no heat issues.
If you want tgo have that plate for the masses that use the board stock then fine but attach it in a way where it can be removed.
Maybe some nylon hold downs that can be cut and tossed..
Other than that nice looking board..
Yep--I dislike boards that come with a fan at stock (remember initial nForce i780 boards? Ref designs had active NB cooling). I wouldn't have such a problem if you have a choice and it works pretty well either way.


Anyways--I've never bought replacement cooling for anything but processors--and when I did it was something good.

[hokiealumnus]

It's alive...It's ALIVE (http://www.alternate.de/html/product/Mainboards_Sockel_775/Abit/IP45_Pro/276229/?articleId=276229&tn=HARDWARE&l1=Mainboards&l2=Intel&l3=Sockel+775)! :)

[Ace-a-Rue]

so far, no show in the USA...i checked newegg, motherboardpro, clubit and ZZF.

[tarantul]

why the abit is to sloOoOoOowly... i am so tired to waiting ip45 pro. what the stupid marketing strategy to wait more than 1 month since the new P45 chipset was released.
all major competitors already have In stock their line-up.. and abit like always waiting for something. but i am waiting with abit. LOL

[hokiealumnus]

Saving the best for last? ;)

[dctokyo]

What do you think?
It should be available by the 1st week of July.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1057/p45proimagetopgb3.jpg

Well the first week of July is just about over and no word, vaporware???? as with the IX48-Max???:down:

[LogAn'sRun]

my local store has posted on their site that it should be available (in stock) 01-07-08, and you can pre book it now. What's today's date again??

edit: LOL, I just checked the site now, and it's been changed to 01-08-08 (http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=354781)

[Heidfirst]

Well the first week of July is just about over and no word, vaporware???? as with the IX48-Max???:down:
that was the estimate in early June & as always subject to change, afaik the latest estimate that Nathan has mentioned recently is mid-July.

[mop231]

cant wait for retail tests :)

[tarantul]

ffs... i've destroed my abit :mad:
i've tried to deinstall backplate from Tuniq Tower to install Waterblock and damaged the PCB paths around socket..what a noob i am :rolleyes::rolleyes:
now i need new mobo.. what shell i do?? wait for abit (but how long) ot buy something another? i need an advise..:confused:
abit please.. hurry up. i so much need ip45pro..

[chatmaster]

ffs... i've destroed my abit :mad:
i've tried to deinstall backplate from Tuniq Tower to install Waterblock and damaged the PCB paths around socket..what a noob i am :rolleyes::rolleyes:
now i need new mobo.. what shell i do?? wait for abit (but how long) ot buy something another? i need an advise..:confused:
abit please.. hurry up. i so much need ip45pro..

Just RMA it, had a similar problem with an old 478 board. Abit kicked up a stink but I didnt back down and they RMA'd it for free. If they want to be cheap skates and put a ton of traces right behind the CPU socket not my problem. (or yours in this case)

[tarantul]

Just RMA it, had a similar problem with an old 478 board. Abit kicked up a stink but I didnt back down and they RMA'd it for free. If they want to be cheap skates and put a ton of traces right behind the CPU socket not my problem. (or yours in this case)
anyway tomorrow i will try to repair it. i hope the "workshop will help me.
otherwise i will look for smth from asus.. and i don't wanna do this. but i don't have a choice.

[ChuckM]

Just a heads up..... the Ip35 Pro is getting harder to find in the U.S. Newegg lists only the XE unless you want an open box. MWave still has them, but the rebate has expired. Anyone heard anything about the price of the 45 Pro?
abit sure isn't making it easy for a poor man to build a computer.

[Heidfirst]

Just a heads up..... the Ip35 Pro is getting harder to find in the U.S. Newegg lists only the XE unless you want an open box. MWave still has them, but the rebate has expired. the XE is just the latest version of the Pro, I'm sure that they are no longer making the Pro V1.1.

It's been suggested to me (subject to confirmation) that IP45 may appear as soon as this week & IP45 Pro next week.
Preorder prices here have the IP45 Pro only 1 or 2% dearer than the IP35 Pro XE is currently selling at.

[Ace-a-Rue]

ffs... i've destroed my abit :mad:
i've tried to deinstall backplate from Tuniq Tower to install Waterblock and damaged the PCB paths around socket..

that is why i NEVER remove the protective film covering the sticky tape on those 3rd party backplates so you can easily remove them if you want to change cooling solutions.

[tarantul]

that is why i NEVER remove the protective film covering the sticky tape on those 3rd party backplates so you can easily remove them if you want to change cooling solutions.

in the future i will never do this. thx for the advise. :)

[Ace-a-Rue]

i remebered one time that i almost did it thinking that i would not try to change out..but..that ugly thought popped into my mind on what you experienced...i was like this close to removing the film covering the sticky tape to attach the back plate...shew!;)

[chatmaster]

Whats with this board, first they post the new board on their website then they pull it. Are you trying to go out of business?

Sick of this on again off again attitude, probably get something else in the next fortnight.

[Glow9]

If this thing doesn't live up to the IP35 pro and surpass or at least match Biostars I'm gonna be a saaad Panda. Is there any new news?

[Heidfirst]

Whats with this board, first they post the new board on their website then they pull it. Are you trying to go out of business?

Sick of this on again off again attitude, probably get something else in the next fortnight.
still there as far as I can see? http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=IP45+Pro&fMTYPE=LGA775

also at http://www.uabit.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=32&Itemid=48&page=1&model=428

[Ace-a-Rue]

any USA leads for the IP45 Pro board?

[bingo13]

any USA leads for the IP45 Pro board?

I hear August for us.. :(

[Ace-a-Rue]

gary, oh man, that is horrible news...i was hoping in another week!:eek:

thanks for the info...i know i can take that to the bank!;)

[dannyuk32]

Massive Abit fan and I see this as encouraging in the industry. The board obviously has problems so they won't release it. The way it should be.
And anyone would be brave to buy this thing when it gets released.
Asus and Gigabyte etc. would have had the 3 months of beta testing from hundreds, thousands of geeks. This Abit thing .. a few. :(
I'll buy the board next year when everyone's beta tested it.

[Ace-a-Rue]

i can't see it having problems unless the way abit wants to lock the MCHBAR which could cause problems with manipulating the bios...i've seen other P45 boards using PL11 thru 15 to get a workable overclock...normally, abit does not let you have access to that setting...so...that might be part of the problem.

[tarantul]

seems to be really some problems with this mobo..:(:confused:
anyway where is AbitUK?? say something m8! we are waiting for this mobo.. please, provide us with some offcial information.

[Ace-a-Rue]

forget it!..he is new...he is not going to stick his neck out any further...to do that might jeopdarize his job.

[tarantul]

forget it!..he is new...he is not going to stick his neck out any further...to do that might jeopdarize his job.
maybe you right.. anyway i've got at this moment ip35-e, replaced my broken pro version. i am still happy with p35 family .:yepp:

[Ace-a-Rue]

the ip35-e is a good board.

[Heidfirst]

Massive Abit fan and I see this as encouraging in the industry. The board obviously has problems so they won't release it. The way it should be.
I don't see why or how you & tarantul jump to concluding that the board has problems?
I know of no evidence for that.

[Glow9]

Maybe they realized that fans suck and they are going to scrap them ha

[Ace-a-Rue]

if a delay has been built in i tell you right now it has to do with the bios and abit's obsession with locking the MCHBAR; that has implications of freezing certain settings like Performance level...the typical P35, X38/X48 boards dealt with PL of 6, 7, 8 or 9...now...i am seeing 11, 12, 13, 14 and 15 for overclocking success....my gut tells me it has to do with this as a minimum...i presume there is more.

[fatguy1992]

The board looks good, but i'm happy with my P5E :D

[Nelly]

I'll wait till the Intel Price drops come into effect i.e. July 20th >, I'll need a motherboard so I'm hoping it's released by then.

[Heidfirst]

Maybe they realized that fans suck and they are going to scrap them ha
IP45 Pro doesn't have any fans ...? :confused:

[Ace-a-Rue]

I'll wait till the Intel Price drops come into effect i.e. July 20th >, I'll need a motherboard so I'm hoping it's released by then.

hmmmm..do you think abit might be trying to coincide the release with the intel price drop?

[ChuckM]

hmmmm..do you think abit might be trying to coincide the release with the intel price drop?

Could be, but I believe they would still be better off getting the board out so you guys can start tweakin' on it first.:up:

[Pntgrd]

I just wish, when it does finally come out, that it would have an Optical/In and an onboard Dolby Decoder. Then I could lose my X-Fi which I use for audio for my Xbox 360. One less PCI card.

[Nelly]

hmmmm..do you think abit might be trying to coincide the release with the intel price drop?Well thats all I'm waiting for now, when I buy my Q9450/Q9550 I will have a new P45 motherboard one way or another Abit or no Abit.

And it just so happens Asus are not using soldered on bios chips with the Asus P5Q Deluxe, also it has two bios chips so if the first bios fails on an update it reverts to the backup so you can reflash, can even swap them both over to update both bios chips.

So cutting the Bulls***! first week in July? Week 26 which was 2nd week in July & well it's the 4th week in July next week which should be the imminent price drop of the Intel CPU's.

Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, Jetway, ECS, Foxxconn, DFI, Biostar spoilt for P45 chipset choice, where is Abit? yes thats right no where to be seen.

The rumors about Abit ceasing motherboard production not true, they havent even started yet I bet. :rofl:

Anyone got any good jokes, apart from Abit?

[Ace-a-Rue]

i heard via some scuttle bud at another website that abit went from 4 bios engineers down to 2...sounds like they are in to austere times and therefore, board production dates are taking a hit.

you know china is hoarding all the oil and diesel for the olympics...prices will drop right after the olympics is over.

[dctokyo]

you know china is hoarding all the oil and diesel for the olympics...prices will drop right after the olympics is over.

I think you could be on to something, but I think that China is hoarding all the Abit motherboards, that`s why we are not seeing anything from them here :rofl:

[Ace-a-Rue]

I think you could be on to something, but I think that China is hoarding all the Abit motherboards, that`s why we are not seeing anything from them here :rofl:

i heard the hoarding rumor on the foxnews business channel...makes sense since they do not want anything to go wrong when they premiere their country as the host of the summer olympics....this is a big thing for them...monumental, in fact!

[Devastation]

[QUOTE=Ace-a-Rue;3147702]i heard via some scuttle bud at another website that abit went from 4 bios engineers down to 2...sounds like they are in to austere times and therefore, board production dates are taking a hit.



just like to say hi first ace i heard via abit tec that they got help outside abit with an independent with the bios as abit engineers could not fix the bios on two boards IX48-MAX and the IP45-Pro. if you want news on abit boards on their bios site two new bios is on their uk site IX38-GT3, IX48-GT3 and no bios for the IP45-pro or IX48-Max if they are going to release p45 the bios whould be on the site as first release. and hi to all on xtreme

[fireice2]

When is this comming out? I'm really disappointed with the local distributor of Abit. :( It used to be a best seller here but due to some bad business decisions its presence is hardly felt. :(

[Red Evil]

This takes far too long, sadly.

[Ace-a-Rue]

i heard via some scuttle bud at another website that abit went from 4 bios engineers down to 2...sounds like they are in to austere times and therefore, board production dates are taking a hit.



just like to say hi first ace i heard via abit tec that they got help outside abit with an independent with the bios as abit engineers could not fix the bios on two boards IX48-MAX and the IP45-Pro. if you want news on abit boards on their bios site two new bios is on their uk site IX38-GT3, IX48-GT3 and no bios for the IP45-pro or IX48-Max if they are going to release p45 the bios whould be on the site as first release. and hi to all on xtreme


thank you for the update...lets hope the outside bios engineer contractor can solve the IP45 Pro and IX48 Max problems.

any idea on when the IX48 GT3 (DDR3) will come out?

[Supershanks]

i heard via abit tec that they got help outside abit with an independent with the bios as abit engineers could not fix the bios on two boards IX48-MAX and the IP45-Pro. if you want news on abit boards on their bios site two new bios is on their uk site IX38-GT3, IX48-GT3 and no bios for the IP45-pro or IX48-Max if they are going to release p45 the bios whould be on the site as first release. and hi to all on xtreme

That ties in with Buff's reply here (http://forums.hexus.net/1474598-post48.html) Buff is Moderator over on Universal abit USA Forums (http://forum.abit-usa.com/index.php) I wondered how he could be so upbeat about boards which frankly I thought were scrapped.

It does leave me with a nagging doubt about ongoing Abit Bios support.

Edit:
Abit IX38-GT3 (http://www.hpm-computer.de/index.php?cat=c1487_Intel-Sockel-775--X38-.html) In stock

[Ace-a-Rue]

you know, i am having a problem here!...i am trying to find the reason why abit is releasing an X38 chipset board even though it is DDR3

[Supershanks]

Well that one i would have thought is too late :) X48 still makes sense, better late than never , but the X38 is what about 8months behind original date.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Exactly!:shrug:

[loonym]

Have to wonder what's really going on with abit. It's the nvidia chipset boards that are absent too. The IN9 32x max all but disappeared so I have to assume they're just getting rid of whatever existing stock there may be. And nothing around 780i or 790i. Then there's the intel line-up which of course should be the bread and butter. The models to choose from are getting less as existing stocks of those disappear too. They gave us the regurgitated p35 pro XE and there's really nothing else out there any more. If it's financial, not producing boards isn't the solution. :D

[Ace-a-Rue]

i guess that we wait and see what they do.

[Devastation]

you know, i am having a problem here!...i am trying to find the reason why abit is releasing an X38 chipset board even though it is DDR3

the two motherboards IX38-GT3 & IX48-GT3 are DDR3 up to 1333mhz and i have found out that the IP45 is out in the eu one or two weeks :up: and the IX48-Max more like october :down: thay are still having probs with the bios :mad: and IX38-GT3 & IX48-GT3 two to three weeks

[Hazzan]

I have freind in ABIT.....this board soon launching.....all FAE engeneering ABIT still work tweak some bios because now ABIT IP 45 series use AMI BIOS...not PHONIX again :):)

[Zehnsucht]

That is good news!

My order of the IP35 Pro was cancelled due to it went out of stock; it seems that the IP45 Pro have a nice price here in Norway, 200$ incl. VAT.
Hopefully the reviews will be swarming the net just a day or so after release.

[Supershanks]

just heard back from HPM
Abit IP45 Pro (http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_info.php?info=p8984_Abit-IP45-Pro.html)
&
Abit IX48-MAX (http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_info.php?info=p7925_Abit-IX48-MAX.html)
are expected end of july/beginning of august

[Ace-a-Rue]

I have freind in ABIT.....this board soon launching.....all FAE engeneering ABIT still work tweak some bios because now ABIT IP 45 series use AMI BIOS...not PHONIX again :):)

this makes sense about the outside bios engineer consultant..AMI, to me, has a tendency to be a bit more complicated to use from an end user stand point; at least when i enter my Asus P5B setup

[Ace-a-Rue]

just heard back from HPM
Abit IP45 Pro (http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_info.php?info=p8984_Abit-IP45-Pro.html)
&
Abit IX48-MAX (http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_info.php?info=p7925_Abit-IX48-MAX.html)
are expected end of july/beginning of august

ALL-RIGHTY-THEN!...role them OUT!:rofl::ROTF:

[Heidfirst]

you know, i am having a problem here!...i am trying to find the reason why abit is releasing an X38 chipset board even though it is DDR3
I suspect that they already had or were contracted to have the chipsets in a certain quantity & no doubt most of the engineering had been done already.

Have to wonder what's really going on with abit. It's the nvidia chipset boards that are absent too. The IN9 32x max all but disappeared so I have to assume they're just getting rid of whatever existing stock there may be. And nothing around 780i or 790i.
to be fair lots of mobo mfrs skipped 780i & there still aren't many 790is (other than reference).

[Ace-a-Rue]

I suspect that they already had or were contracted to have the chipsets in a certain quantity & no doubt most of the engineering had been done already.

maybe it would be better to take a lost on the chipsets and move on...why sink more money into building a board...kind of hard to come to a rational thought pattern on that one.:shrug:

[Heidfirst]

maybe it would be better to take a lost on the chipsets and move on...why sink more money into building a board...kind of hard to come to a rational thought pattern on that one.:shrug:
who knows but with margins so thin in mobo market & assuming that they were committed/contracted to purchase I doubt that writing off $x00,000s if not $x,000,000s would be an option - better at least to make & sell the boards at cost than lose that kind of money.
& given that X38 chipset is significantly cheaper than X48 to buy from Intel that should translate into a handy price differential at retail for people who may want dual x16 PCI-E 2.0 but don't need/want the extra overclocking ability of X48.

[Ace-a-Rue]

well...i am not on your wave length of thought pattern...i think it is a lose, lose situation.

[Heidfirst]

well...i am not on your wave length of thought pattern...i think it is a lose, lose situation.
how can at least recovering your money rather than taking a hit for probably millions of $ be a lose?

[Ace-a-Rue]

how can at least recovering your money rather than taking a hit for probably millions of $ be a lose?

how do you know it will be millions????

if they go forward with manufacturing the board and associated accessories coming with it in a box; shipped to distributors..then according to your millions estimate...it will be tens of millions lost if the board is a bust!

[Pntgrd]

Well, I have to admit that no matter how much I loverd my IP35-Pro, I clicked the BUY button and have a P5q-Deluxe on the way. I really wanted the Abit but I went with what looks like an extreemly good board for this round. If it holds up as well as my A8n-SLI premium I will be a happy o/c'r.

See ya all in the P5Q thread :beer/:

[Ace-a-Rue]

well...i read through the P5Q3 thread and i due believe you are in for a ride of frustrations...i hope it treats you well.

[Nelly]

well...i read through the P5Q3 thread and i due believe you are in for a ride of frustrations...i hope it treats you well.The DDR3 board seems to have issues with Ram (P5Q3 Deluxe) I woudnt be surprised if its fixed in a revision as they dont seem to be having any luck with bios updates - Asus have a habit of doing revisions anyone remember the A8V Deluxe Revision 1 & 2? AGP/PCI locks Fix :)

The DDR2 board (P5Q Deluxe) is the one he seems to have bought looks to be a great motherboard, still mulling over buying one myself - do I wait for the Abit IP45 Pro for the sake of Abit uguru or get the Asus P5Q Deluxe with 2 replaceable bios chips (1 backup) & loadline calibration feature with a more mature bios. :shrug:

[Heidfirst]

how do you know it will be millions????

if they go forward with manufacturing the board and associated accessories coming with it in a box; shipped to distributors..then according to your millions estimate...it will be tens of millions lost if the board is a bust!
I don't but I'm just surmising.
Iirc X38 costs ~$80 from Intel & I can't imagine them making less than 10,000 mobos so that's $800,000 straight off.

I would also expect that other than the actual nb, the external packaging, the manual & a sticker over the printing on the PCB on 1 or the other of the IX38/IX48 QuadGT3s that the BOM is absolutely identical.
If that's the case then making the IX38 QuadGT3 should also actually lower the cost of production for the IX48 QuadGT3 (or vice versa).

If they price it right it will sell, after all P45 & X48 don't really bring much to the vast majority of people over an X38 & it would be cheaper than some P45s & equivalent X48s.

[Ace-a-Rue]

The DDR3 board seems to have issues with Ram (P5Q3 Deluxe) I woudnt be surprised if its fixed in a revision as they dont seem to be having any luck with bios updates - Asus have a habit of doing revisions anyone remember the A8V Deluxe Revision 1 & 2? AGP/PCI locks Fix :)

that's the point...how do you know what revision you will get unless you have a store to buy it from or online retailer who can give you that information.:shrug:

The DDR2 board (P5Q Deluxe) is the one he seems to have bought looks to be a great motherboard, still mulling over buying one myself - do I wait for the Abit IP45 Pro for the sake of Abit uguru or get the Asus P5Q Deluxe with 2 replaceable bios chips (1 backup) & loadline calibration feature with a more mature bios. :shrug:

as to 2 bios chips...the gigabyte X48(T)-DQ6 (both DDR versions) have 2 bios chips and the 2nd one is suppose to take over if the first one fails to do its job...well...good old gigabyte bios engineers released a BAD bios and the people who flashed it had failures...the 2nd bios never took over until one user found a bios recovery procedure by googling it...it required shorting out two pins to force the 2nd bios to come on-line....SO...my point: make sure the asus board bios has a manual jumper method to select the 2nd bios...a strict "Auto" method, that denies the user any manual intervention, is not a fool proof system!

[Pntgrd]

Ace, I actually have read the P5Q-Deluxe thread, well at least half of it. I am not getting the DDR3 version and like Nelly said, the DDR2 board is working fine. The loss of OC Guru is fine as I didn't use it much any way and there are other ways to do basically the same things anyway. I just picked up an early model 8400 and this looks like the board to put it in. There may be better but not in this price range. And if I want to use my Quad it will handle the power way better than my IP35-Pro has. Nothing against Abit, I love my Pro board. And lets face it, as most others around here do, if it doesn't work out, buy another. :up:

[Ace-a-Rue]

right...just thought to bring some attention to the board since the board is basically the same except for memory type...good luck...i understand you are tired waiting on Abit to produce the IP45 or the IX48...it's kind of pathetic about abit's lackluster approach to marketing their boards.

[ChuckM]

...i understand you are tired waiting on Abit to produce the IP45 or the IX48...it's kind of pathetic about abit's lackluster approach to marketing their boards.

It's too bad abit doesn't seem to realize or care that they're losing followers everyday. The 35XE is down to $150 at Newegg.

[Ace-a-Rue]

a mistake in my mind to come out with it...when you have a good thing (IP35 Pro), keep doing it until it doesn't sell anymore.

[Devastation]

this will put a spanner in the works the X58 chipset to be released early sept boards to be released in oct that is what i herd from abit tec Netherlands
new LGA 1366 socket and sli and crossfire X16 X2 have a look at the links i hope thay work. may be abit are gearing up fore the X58 boards !!!

http://www.custompc.co.uk/news/604443/intel_x58_chipset_to_support_sli_and_crossfire.htm l

http://www.overclock3d.net/news.php?/cpu_mainboard/intel_bloomfield_cpu_pricing/1

[LogAn'sRun]

well if that's the case, then why post p45 pro and the x48 max on their website?

Does anyone believe that p45 pro is coming out soon, and does anyone care?

[dctokyo]

this will put a spanner in the works the X58 chipset to be released early sept boards to be released in oct that is what i herd from abit tec Netherlands
new LGA 1366 socket and sli and crossfire X16 X2 have a look at the links i hope thay work. may be abit are gearing up fore the X58 boards !!!


Sorry to give you bad news, but abit is going out of business

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/9878/universal_abit_lays_off_more_staff/index.html

Universal abit lays-off more staff
Published: 30th July 2008 @ 11:20 AM
Author: John Freeman


According to several sources both inside and outside Universal abit Motherboard Company; abit has laid off many staff from various departments within its HQ based in Taiwan. This follows a move from the previous HQ address in Nei-Hu to new premises in Nan-Gang to reduce expenses just last month.

Universal abit lays-off more staff

The beleaguered company has been down on its luck ever since the then CEO fiddled with the public companies stock prospects according to allegations. The subsequent investigation and resulting court cases have not yet been finalized, however, the abit brand was sold to Universal Scientific Industrial and the proceeds were used to level off some of the debt the public company had incurred.

Universal Scientific Industrial Co., Ltd. is a DMS/ODM/OEM manufacturer in 4C (Computing, Communications, Consumer Electronics and Car Electronics) industries, which means other companies employ them to design (in some cases) and manufacture for them. Brands they have dealings with include HP, Dell and ASUS, Since USI is part of ASE, one of the largest Semiconductor manufacturers in the world today, which was purported to be under consideration for a partnership with the Carlisle group not too long ago. One has to question what the purpose to buy abit was. However since they bought abit in a bid battle between several big players, rumoured to be ECS, Foxconn and Asus, most of the original abit support and admin staff were laid off. The marketing team remained, as did the PM team with all the key engineers needed to continue making high-end to mainstream motherboards. That was in early 2006.

As of the end of July 2008, most of the Research and Development team have been laid off, and between 3-4 people from almost every engineering department from Quality Control to Field Application Engineers too. Everyone from the previous PM team who designed the likes of the MAX and Fatal1ty series that many enthusiasts grew to love have all moved on over the last year. There doesn’t seem to be much left of what was once a prosperous and productive team well worth recognition. Some of those PM members went to Biostar, and others went to Foxconn. Both companies have seen a marked improvement in enthusiast level products recently, with abit’s offerings becoming more and more mediocre. The irony was that many times abit could not use USI resources as they charged too much, or did not have the Quality Control in place for the enthusiast sector. Pretty strange considering that USI is supposed to own abit and ideally help it’s underling to achieve better products with better results. The bottom line is that USI never understood the brand and never leveraged it as it could have. The abit GM who had stood firm and resolutely as he handed over control to the new masters eventually left for personal reasons, leaving a new person in charge who had no experience in the enthusiast sector. That person hailed from another semi-conductor firm, and has been applying those threadbare methods of lower margins, but higher volumes. While some would say these methods are slowly crippling the enthusiast aspect of the abit brand, the subsequent loss of faith in the abit brand by the public at large has resulted in warehouses being full and few if any buyers lining up.

Looking deeper at the USI acquisition of abit, one has to question in which direction are they headed? Recent shows and events such as CeBIT and Computex suggest the motherboard line-up was still pretty strong. I’m guessing the resulting orders have not been what were required and as such the lay-off stands to reason. Does this mean an end to abit? Or simply an end to the motherboard segment, while the company does a subtle shift to align itself more closely with what USI can make easily, namely: notebooks, UMPC’s and photo frames. Dare I ask if the photo frame can be overclocked?

[Ace-a-Rue]

i remember back in 1999 that i had a connection to IWill board maker out in the LAX area...he told me then that Abit was financially in trouble back then and could possibly end "belly up!"...abit was taken over but it has been struggling to find the right niche...i thought their IP35 Pro was a "SUPER" good board...i was a bit taken back when they tried putting out the IP35 Pro XE model...idiotic move in my mind...when you win accolades and awards, you keep that board coming until they stop selling...why try to re-invent the wheel just for the 1600 system bus!:shrug:

[davemuk]

Sorry to give you bad news, but abit is going out of business

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/9878/universal_abit_lays_off_more_staff/index.html


Please don't add any more fuel to the fire, they could be down sizing to keep costs down during this difficult economic time. If they were going out of business, why even move to new premisise and the shutdown?. I think we'll see the ip45 boards but after that who knows.

Dave

[Ace-a-Rue]

aaah, moves are made for cost cutting but the ink could be drying as we speak...my company moved to a smaller building while in financial difficulties and it was like six to twelve months later, the company was declaring bankruptcy.

[Retro]

The DDR3 board seems to have issues with Ram (P5Q3 Deluxe) I woudnt be surprised if its fixed in a revision as they dont seem to be having any luck with bios updates - Asus have a habit of doing revisions anyone remember the A8V Deluxe Revision 1 & 2? AGP/PCI locks Fix :)

The DDR2 board (P5Q Deluxe) is the one he seems to have bought looks to be a great motherboard, still mulling over buying one myself - do I wait for the Abit IP45 Pro for the sake of Abit uguru or get the Asus P5Q Deluxe with 2 replaceable bios chips (1 backup) & loadline calibration feature with a more mature bios. :shrug:
I picked one up myself, a P5Q Deluxe (DDR2) last week. I am going to get a few Thermalright goodies for it before I replace my trusty IP-35 Pro. Good that their HR-09's fit on the Asus. I was also attracted to the socketed bios chips, a feature that the Abit had with it's one chip. It will be fun to give loadline calibration a shot, a lot of vdroop on my Abit so that may help the overclocking stability somewhat.
Let us know if you go the same route, Nelly:)

[Retro]

Ace, I actually have read the P5Q-Deluxe thread, well at least half of it. I am not getting the DDR3 version and like Nelly said, the DDR2 board is working fine. The loss of OC Guru is fine as I didn't use it much any way and there are other ways to do basically the same things anyway. I just picked up an early model 8400 and this looks like the board to put it in. There may be better but not in this price range. And if I want to use my Quad it will handle the power way better than my IP35-Pro has. Nothing against Abit, I love my Pro board. And lets face it, as most others around here do, if it doesn't work out, buy another. :up:
Well said:up:

[Devastation]

[QUOTE=dctokyo;3187599]Sorry to give you bad news, but abit is going out of business

i spoke to abit tec in the Netherlands thay said thay are not going out of business it is just another rumour.the IP45 is out with in the next two weeks IX48-MAX may be canned because of the IX58-MAX he said that head office as not confirmed it yet we will see what goes on that is his words ? also i have found on the IP45-PRO on advanctec.co.uk i don't know if it is instock

http://www.advancetec.co.uk/acatalog/ABIT_775.html

[loonym]

[QUOTE]

i spoke to abit tec in the Netherlands thay said thay are not going out of business it is just another rumour.the IP45 is out with in the next two weeks IX48-MAX may be canned because of the IX58-MAX he said that head office as not confirmed it yet we will see what goes on that is his wordsYeah ok :rolleyes: This has all been heard before. The first post in this thread said first week of July. That came and went and we got a third party excuse that pushed it to mid-July.
Then various people stating end of July-beginning of August. :rofl::ROTF::rofl:
Any statements made by anyone at this point about when or if this comes to market should be greeted with 'show me'. :shakes:

[chatmaster]

This board is taking so long. Not going to happen.

So long Abit, its been nice.

[philbrown23]

yeah it's just one delay after another at this point, looks like I am no longer waiting, you dropped the ball big time on this one abit!

[Ace-a-Rue]

Yeah ok :rolleyes: This has all been heard before. The first post in this thread said first week of July. That came and went and we got a third party excuse that pushed it to
Then various people stating end of July-beginning of August. :rofl::ROTF::rofl:
Any statements made by anyone at this point about when or if this comes to market should be greeted with 'show me'. :shakes:

no kidding:D:yepp:

i couldn't wait any longer...i decided to go over to the Biostar TPower I45 board...it has a record for the highest FSB; probably on DICE or LN2

i give it a work over to see, and by the time i'm finished with it, the IP45 Pro will possibly make it to the street!:rofl::ROTF:...i love to dream!;)

[ThugsRook]

i hope Abit comes thru with something, anything at this point.

:shakes:

[Ace-a-Rue]

actually, i want to see them survive also...the IP35 Pro has been a "Stud" among the P35 boards!

[chatmaster]

I want them to survive and bring back their vintage best!

I'm also a realist, if they cant come to market with these its good night. shame.

[dctokyo]

[QUOTE]

i spoke to abit tec in the Netherlands thay said thay are not going out of business it is just another rumour.the IP45 is out with in the next two weeks IX48-MAX may be canned because of the IX58-MAX he said that head office as not confirmed it yet we will see what goes on that is his words ? also i have found on the IP45-PRO on advanctec.co.uk i don't know if it is instock

http://www.advancetec.co.uk/acatalog/ABIT_775.html

Have you been keeping up with the news of abit boards???? :rofl:

The IX38-Max was canned because of the IX48-MAX coming out, so now you tell me that the IX48-MAX is being canned because of the IX58-MAX coming out :confused: Well I have news for you, the IX58-MAX will be canned because of the IX68-MAX coming out and then the IX68-MAX will be canned because of the IX78-MAX coming out and so-on and so-on...... all I am hearing from the abit marketing department is BS:rofl:
and now before someone from the abit forums chimes in here and says that I sound like a broken-record. all I am doing is stating the facts that I have heard here in Japan....... and don"t worry, will not be posting on the abit forums anymore, I have move over to Asus, really got tried of vapor-motherboards that never or will come out from abit :down:

[tarantul]

[QUOTE=Devastation;3189556]
Well I have news for you, the IX58-MAX will be canned because of the IX68-MAX coming out and then the IX68-MAX will be canned because of the IX78-MAX coming out and so-on and so-on...... all I am hearing from the abit marketing department is BS:rofl:

:rofl: LOL :D

[Lvcoyote]

[QUOTE=Devastation;3189556]
and now before someone from the abit forums chimes in here and says that I sound like a broken-record.

Sorry I'm late..... but you do sound like a broken record.....:rolleyes:

[LogAn'sRun]

[QUOTE]
i spoke to abit tec in the Netherlands thay said thay are not going out of business it is just another rumour.the IP45 is out with in the next two weeks IX48-MAX may be canned because of the IX58-MAX he said that head office as not confirmed it yet we will see what goes on that is his words ? also i have found on the IP45-PRO on advanctec.co.uk i don't know if it is instock

http://www.advancetec.co.uk/acatalog/ABIT_775.html

mm, here (http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=354784) they said available back in july, and then it was changed to end of july, then shifted into august and now it says the 15th with approximately 20 boards on the way in. . .

Sure.

After reading about all the layoff's, I'm guessing that they just move whatever stock they have left, and then quietly slip outta the mobo market.

[Ace-a-Rue]

it is a no win situation for abit...once they start laying off across the board, the writing is literally on the walls in regards to them extracting themselves out of the enthusiasts mobo market....they might do generic mobo's for system makers...that coud be a possibility!

[Nelly]

Not exactly the same but I worked for a company that reduced the workforce as part of restructuring also selling a branch that wasnt doing much business.

When a company goes into administrative recievership even the directors will basically lie to your bare face, as they are told by administrators not to say anything till an announcement is actually made even on the actual day itself, they carry on as if everything is normal.

All I'm saying is with this speculation, it woudnt surprised if within a year or two time that Abit will be nothing more than what was in terms of being a motherboard manufacturer.

Look at Soyo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soyo_Group_Inc) moved into other areas & ceased motherboard manufacture, also Soltek just disapeared without trace & Epox ceased trading but formed a new company Supox.

I hope it doesnt happen, but I've had the experiance of this happening twice to me before as an employee for two companys.

Also in light of the lack of motherboards being released it does look like the workforce as been reduced, I don't really buy the reduction in bios engineers as the sole reason.

Plus all the Bull**** of motherboards being released on dates - yeah right! :censored:

Looking forward to the next few weeks, Intel price drops meaning I buy my new rig & P45 motherboard, too bad Abit have left it way too late even for me so I'll have to purchase from another manufacturer. :(

[Ace-a-Rue]

you want a good motherboard for the PRICE and PERFORMANCE?...buy a Biostar TPower I45..i have one right now and it is GREAT!...supposedly, it was reported that some of Abit's engineers went over to Biostar....

My Biostar thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=196973

[Nelly]

you want a good motherboard for the PRICE and PERFORMANCE?...buy a Biostar TPower I45..i have one right now and it is GREAT!...supposedly, it was reported that some of Abit's engineers went over to Biostar....

My Biostar thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=196973I wish I could as I've been struggling to find an e-tailor in the UK that sells it over the last few weeks :shrug: not keen on the idea of purchasing the motherboard from Europe. Would rather be protected by UK Consumer Laws, if anything goes wrong.

[Ace-a-Rue]

do you want me to see how much it would cost to send you one from here?

[Nelly]

do you want me to see how much it would cost to send you one from here?Would be interested to see cost, works out around £122 ($237) inc shipping from Belgium.

[Ace-a-Rue]

@Nelly..check your PM inbox;)

[Devastation]

[QUOTE=dctokyo;3191774]

Sorry I'm late..... but you do sound like a broken record.....:rolleyes:

don't shoot the messenger i just give the info that abit tec tells me anyway i have got feed up with waiting for abit so i have gone for an Asus Rampage Extreme Intel X48 the link is in Chinese but good pics of the board on nordichardware.com ASUS R.O.G. Rampage Extreme reaches 710MHz FSB and 2516MHz memory frequency


http://www.xfastest.com/viewthread.php?tid=11417#zoom

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7931.html

[NKD]

Honestly, I fricking loved my ip-35 pro, probably the best board I ever tried, and I really mean when I say that, it was stable as a rock, and overclocked like hell, I would grab the ip-45 in a heart beat, actually abit made a future customer out of me, but one can only wait so long, I really don't get why they would just exit out, I thought they sold quite a few ip-35 and ix-38 mobos, I actually seriously think that they might just be done and stepping out.

[Red Evil]

I heard it will come this week, maybe someone can confirm or deny :P

[davemuk]

I heard it will come this week, maybe someone can confirm or deny :P

I found this (http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12237104&postcount=41) post which suggests the same.

[krille]

Does anyone know if the IP43 Pro will overclock well? The only difference seems to be the lack of CF (which I don't need).

It's for an E8400. Should it reliably let the E8400 hit ~4 Ghz / ~450 Mhz FSB?

[Nelly]

do you want me to see how much it would cost to send you one from here?

Would be interested to see cost, works out around £122 ($237) inc shipping from Belgium.

@Nelly..check your PM inbox;)

Checked your mail & would just like to say thanks for looking into this for me, appreciate your time & effort. I've managed to source a UK distributor as well as contacts of a supplier.

£92.81 inc delivery, very good price as the saying goes "seek & you shall find" ;)

[dctokyo]

Abit reportedly leaving motherboard business

Now, according to CustomPC, the company will cease all motherboard production. Most of the Fatal1ty team has apparently transferred to either Foxconn or Biostar.

Abit may intend to focus its manufacturing efforts on products that synchronize more easily with USI's product lines, including notebooks, UMPCs, and photo frames, but the company's time as a motherboard competitor has come to an end. :(

http://arstechnica.com/journals/hardware.ars/2008/08/11/abit-reportedly-leaving-motherboard-business

[davemuk]

Abit reportedly leaving motherboard business

Now, according to CustomPC, the company will cease all motherboard production. Most of the Fatal1ty team has apparently transferred to either Foxconn or Biostar.

From CustomPC

Interestingly, our source also suggested that this could signal Abit’s exit from the motherboard market in general

Anyone else want to play Chinese whispers ? ;)

[Nelly]

Well if the statements are not true, theirs nothing stopping Universal Abit suing these companys for posting false infomation which could damage sales etc, who really knows . . . ?

I like Abit but I'll say this they have taken far to long releasing the latest batch of motherboards hence why these statements are coming out more often than not whether the info is true or false.

I really dont see the point in being loyal to one brand because of the Abit name or any other company & I've waited far too long for the Abit IP45 Pro to be released, I'll be buying a Biostar motherboard for the very first time, they are doing everything right at the moment.

My personal thoughts are Abit wont be in the motherboard market within the next 12-18 month, that puts me off buying because of the support, like I've mentioned I've had experiance as an employee in similar circumstances at companys where rumors where rife etc no offical news to say otherwise & bang! unemployed.

If Abit are going to be doing anything in the next 12-18 months they need to look at marketing the brand more better in terms of advertising as well as publishing a set release date for their products, I dont care what other opinions are but all these published articles have done the damage already.

[Ace-a-Rue]

yeah, good old abit has suffered significant image damage due to their lethargy in getting the correct word out on their status and upcoming mobo products.

[vengance_01]

Could explain why there has been such a large delay in seeing there P45 and X48 boards. It will be a sad day if this is indeed true.

[Nelly]

Not sure but Abit's parent company Universal Scientific Industrial Co Ltd has 13,311 employee's. :eek:

Source (http://finance.google.com/finance?q=TPE:2350)

I dont think they are really interested in the motherboard market anymore, otherwise they would put more effort into bringing the products out on time in the first place.

Considering DFI (511) & Biostar (856) employee's respectively do bring out products relatively on time now.

[hokiealumnus]

Posted this in the IP35 thread, but since they seem to be going in both: That's just a re-write of an article from last Thursday that people harped on last week. No new information there. Heck, they even linked to the article. Lazy "reporting". I still think they are simply tightening the reigns because of the economic situation. Until the fat lady sings (as in abit confirms this), don't count them out yet. Would hate for these rumors to become self-fulfilling prophesy.

EDIT - I should point out I completely agree it's ridiculous that they haven't released their P45 / P43 chipset boards to the mass market. I'm just not ready to give up on them.

[Ace-a-Rue]

if they are tightening the reins then support, especially bios support will be poor.

[GAR]

No way, ABIT wont be making boards, ive had some good Abit boards in the past, sucks!!!

[Nelly]

if they are tightening the reins then support, especially bios support will be poor.Not wanting to slag Abit off but Bios updates hasn't been exactly amazing over the past few years with reocurring bugs that were previously fixed in previous bios etc but Abit do come good in the end.

If they have reduced their number of bios engineers, like you said Ace-a-Rue, bios support is bound to be poor, we was told that the reason why the IP45 Pro & X48-Max wasnt released because they had to bring in external bios engineers to sort out their problems & move over from the Pheonix Bios to AMI.

Not exactly the sort of info you want when purchasing a new motherboard, hence why I'll be buying elsewhere for my P45 motherboard. :(

Just been looking at the bios releases for the BIOSTAR TPower I45, 3 bios releases + 2 beta within 5 weeks to fix all the bugs associated with the motherboard, thats how it should be done. :yepp:

[hokiealumnus]

No way, ABIT wont be making boards, ive had some good Abit boards in the past, sucks!!!

Can't argue that point. However, you and I both know the IP35 Pro had one of the best release BIOSes of any with a P35 chipset, which is partly why it won such accolades. I'd rather have two or three solid, useful BIOS fixes that address major compatibility issues (i.e. new CPU die size, which admittedly took a while) rather than ten or fifteen piddly BIOS updates to fix things that shouldn't have been broken in the first place. ;)

[WSX]

@ Nelly, can you PM me who sells the Biostar board in the UK ... thanks

[Jamesrt2004]

@ Nelly, can you PM me who sells the Biostar board in the UK ... thanks

_1 please

and sucks was looking into getting this mobo obv now looking into biostar

[jcool]

Why on earth would they move to an AMI bios? They suck, it's what I hate most about Asus boards.

[Ace-a-Rue]

trying to figure that one out myself!

[Amigan]

they probably swapped due to costs would be my first thought.

Amigan.

[illidan]

No way, ABIT wont be making boards, ive had some good Abit boards in the past, sucks!!!
loved my IC7 (the best board ever) still alive and my current one IP35 Pro great board!

sad... very sad

[Ace-a-Rue]

they probably swapped due to costs would be my first thought.

Amigan.

my guess would be that they let go their best bios engineers when they did that across the board staff cut!

[Bhairav]

The IX48 is available in India.
14500 rupees, which is ~340 USD. Oh well, we get gypped anyway!

[Supershanks]

The IX48 is available in India. Nothing in europe this place has it listed
HPM DE (http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_info.php?info=p7925_Abit-IX48-MAX.html) but you can see the status. Their generally amongst the 1st to get new boards, especially rare ones :lol:

[Ace-a-Rue]

1st to get new boards, especially rare ones :lol:
:rofl::ROTF:

[SP1]

The Abit IX48-GT3 is available at OcUK.

[BulldogPO]

My source at Abit have told like this regarding latest rumours of engineers and stuff:

You already know that USI is the mother company of Abit. And USI also has a very good development department for mainboards. And two departments make no sense. So they closed the Abit department. And every engineer could change to USI. Most of them done this but some have changed to other companies. USI seems to do a very good job. Since the both departments joined together we got many good BIOS-updates for our boards.

But as I know USI build the boards for IBM since a long time. So they already know what they do. And also the most of our engineers still working for us with the only difference that they now will get