iPHONE 3G = disappointment

[Senater_Cache]

iPHONE 3G = disappointment
Im sorry, it just is.
I held of of the first iPhone for its utter lack of features, and wanted to give it a try the second time around.
well, guess what, I aint.

Apple has turned to Crapple officially now whit this brick of crap.

lets see, features that any "best-phone-in-the-world" should have and the iphones Do Not:

camera:
-better than 2mp camera
-Autofocus
-Quality optics (Carl Zeiss etc)
-Flash (even a LED one!)
-Focus Light
-FRONT FACING CAMERA <- are you kidding me? every mac now has this for iChat conference goodness. Now that its on 3G the iPhone MUST HAVE THIS...WTF STEVE JOBS!!??)
-NO VIDEO RECORDING WTF??

External
-Removable Battery
-SD EXPANSION SLOT (ever hear of PC Card-Reader + Office Documents on a smartphone Apple?)
-Media keys (is this really even close to being an iPod?)

Telephony
-MMS !!!!!??
-Songs as Ringtones (can this be done now?)
-THEMES !!!

Awesomeness
-Assited GPS (navigation like on a TomTom or Garmin)
-RADIO !!!???
-Internet Radio (you are on 3G dammit !)

feel free to add, counter and discuss.:ROTF::ROTF::rofl::rofl::yepp::yepp:

[SoulsCollective]

Anyone who buys an iPhone isn't interested in features. They're interested in the fact that it's been released by the Borg Queen and they must assimilate it.

[Senater_Cache]

lol. you bad

[zanzabar]

since they use iTunes that makes it illegal to use songs for ring tones since that breaks to TOC, the hardware changes wont happen that would increase the price and would require them to actually make something and not get generic HTC hardware with a different os

for the software u can jailbrake, and most of those require software that they cant use since they are non open source linux and thats a hard thing to use standardized code for since they cant use the open source code

[metro.cl]

cant record videos?

[XS Janus]

I think you should update your first post regularly, with the info users report here and around the web so we can get a full picture of the situation at one glance.
-Copy paste function? is that added?
-A2DP Bluetooth for stereo streaming

I read that the new firmware for 1st gen phone adds ability to save images from emails(wtf? how could they forget this in the first place)

http://gizmodo.com/5014705/iphone-3g-the-stuff-that-didnt-get-upgraded

I really wanted to go for it. But I just cant see myself settling for less features than my n95 has. Right now I just miss the cool touch interface.
I might try the new Samsung i900 Omnia (http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i900_omnia_announced_live_pics_inside-news-519.php)as that one has all the features and looks pretty damn great.

[YMAA]

camera:
-better than 2mp camera


I agree, I'd like a better quality camera, but for a phone, the quality is pretty decent. (Yes, I do own an EDGE iPhone)


-Autofocus


Agreed, clearer is always better. But considering it's a phone and not meant for high-end photography it doesn't matter too much, my pictures come out clear enough considering it's primarily a phone.


-Quality optics (Carl Zeiss etc)


Can't argue with that, clearer is always better.


-Flash (even a LED one!)


Sure, it'd be a nice feature, but I can't say I've ever found it necessary.


-FRONT FACING CAMERA <- are you kidding me? every mac now has this for iChat conference goodness. Now that its on 3G the iPhone MUST HAVE THIS...WTF STEVE JOBS!!??)


Is 3G really fast enough for video conferencing? I can say EDGE is barely fast enough for web browsing let alone anything involving video...YouTube slows to a crawl. Even if it was fast enough, I can't see myself using it. I'd rather keep the camera on the back of the case and keep the device slim.


-Removable Battery


I guess. But the battery should last for the whole two years, at which point the contract expires and someone who can afford a <$200 phone should be able to replace it in two years. And we should be used to it after how many years of iPods that didn't have user-serviceable batteries? But yes, it would be nice to have the flexibility.


-SD EXPANSION SLOT (ever hear of PC Card-Reader + Office Documents on a smartphone Apple?)


I've also heard of USB, and I'm sure more computers have USB ports than SD card readers. Just need a cable, which I believe is included with the phone.


-Media keys (is this really even close to being an iPod?)


Explain this one please?


-MMS !!!!!??


I agree, this should have been part of v1, or at least included in a firmware update. That being said, I'm sure Apple would have included it had it been available...there may be a restriction put on them by AT+T.


-Songs as Ringtones (can this be done now?)


There are ways to do it through iTunes:

A) Make them through the Music Store, for $.99 for the song and another $1.99 for the tone

B) Shorten an MP3 to the length of the ringtone with Audacity, convert the MP3 to an unprotected AAC through iTunes, remove both short songs from the library, change the file extension of the AAC file from .m4a to .m4r, then add it to your iTunes library and it will show up as a ringtone.


-THEMES !!!


Meh, stock UI is pretty enough. Can't see a wallpaper on the home screen with all the icons anyway, and the title bars are thin enough that I don't think it would make that big a difference. I'd rather they put more time and effort towards them getting AT+T to let them do MMS messages.


-Assited GPS (navigation like on a TomTom or Garmin)


Agreed, I'd like to see this, but the additional circuitry for satelite communication would add bulk, which Apple isn't willing to do. We do have Google Maps on the phone, that'll do until they can find a way to add it without adding bulk.


-RADIO !!!???


I have a Sansa with an FM radio and I've never felt an inclination to listen to it. Someone else may, but meh. And I only listen to the radio if I'm in someone else's car and they don't have CDs.


-Internet Radio (you are on 3G dammit !)


iTunes on the PC can do it, the iPhone should be able to. Though I can see why they wouldn't add it, it'd probably compete with satelite radio companies like Sirius and XM. Not like it's a hardware only feature though, so they should be able to add it.

Most of them are good points. I wonder if Apple will ever do some kind of trade-in program for previous-gen iPhone owners, I'd very much like 3G access. Wouldn't mind getting credit towards a new one. :up:

[XS Janus]

So what happens if the phone locks up and you can't remove the battery to reset it?
Visit to the iStore?

[p0tter]

I love my iphone. The fact that its slim full touch screen, doesnt need a stupid SD card (16GB internal), Wifi (edge does suck) and a very usable ipod, did I mention its slim with a full touch screen?

Had a meeting out of state yesterday (no need for excel or office apps) and it was nice to go with only my phone and still be able to get on the web and actually surf, unlike most phone web apps.

So what happens if the phone locks up and you can't remove the battery to reset it?
Visit to the iStore?

Hard reset. Hold the Home key and the Lock Key for 10 secs. Ive had the phone lock up once in 6 months :(

[Senater_Cache]

I hate when people dissect posts like this. lol.
I agree, I'd like a better quality camera, but for a phone, the quality is pretty decent. (Yes, I do own an EDGE iPhone)



Agreed, clearer is always better. But considering it's a phone and not meant for high-end photography it doesn't matter too much, my pictures come out clear enough considering it's primarily a phone.



Can't argue with that, clearer is always better.


* regarding a Flash
Sure, it'd be a nice feature, but I can't say I've ever found it necessary.

-- ever been in a nightclub / darkened room and tried to take a picture of your friends?



Is 3G really fast enough for video conferencing? I can say EDGE is barely fast enough for web browsing let alone anything involving video...YouTube slows to a crawl. Even if it was fast enough, I can't see myself using it. I'd rather keep the camera on the back of the case and keep the device slim.
--in europe everyone is video-conferencing on 3G ...its fast enough.



I guess. But the battery should last for the whole two years, at which point the contract expires and someone who can afford a <$200 phone should be able to replace it in two years. And we should be used to it after how many years of iPods that didn't have user-serviceable batteries? But yes, it would be nice to have the flexibility.


* regarding missing expansion slot (SD)
I've also heard of USB, and I'm sure more computers have USB ports than SD card readers. Just need a cable, which I believe is included with the phone.
--one of th epoints of REMOVABLE media is to have multiple discs and swap them out.


* regarding media keys
Explain this one please?
-dedicated play/pause/next/etc buttons on the body of the phone so that one can skip a song without pulling the "ipod" out of the pocket and turning on the screen

* regarding MMS
I agree, this should have been part of v1, or at least included in a firmware update. That being said, I'm sure Apple would have included it had it been available...there may be a restriction put on them by AT+T.
--hmmm

* regarding songs as ringtones
There are ways to do it through iTunes:

A) Make them through the Music Store, for $.99 for the song and another $1.99 for the tone

B) Shorten an MP3 to the length of the ringtone with Audacity, convert the MP3 to an unprotected AAC through iTunes, remove both short songs from the library, change the file extension of the AAC file from .m4a to .m4r, then add it to your iTunes library and it will show up as a ringtone.
--how does this tie in with apple's "user-friendlyness"? It sure ties in well with Apple's exuberant wallet emptying techniques.

* regarding a Themes
Meh, stock UI is pretty enough. Can't see a wallpaper on the home screen with all the icons anyway, and the title bars are thin enough that I don't think it would make that big a difference. I'd rather they put more time and effort towards them getting AT+T to let them do MMS messages.
--I hope you are joking. My grandmother's phone from 1999 does themes. At least give us ONE extra color.


* regarding Navigation via A-GPS
Agreed, I'd like to see this, but the additional circuitry for satelite communication would add bulk, which Apple isn't willing to do. We do have Google Maps on the phone, that'll do until they can find a way to add it without adding bulk.
-Google maps? it isnt iPhoen specific I have the same google maps as iPhone has on my Symbian OS phone (NOKIA) the stupid pins even drop all animated-like just like on the iPhone, its a google product. Adding A-GPS would add zero circuitry, it is simply an application that accesses a map-database and the GPS unit (which is already in the iPhone 3G)

* regarding no Radio
I have a Sansa with an FM radio and I've never felt an inclination to listen to it. Someone else may, but meh. And I only listen to the radio if I'm in someone else's car and they don't have CDs.
--Inclination is no reason for omission now, is it? If you think it is, dont call it the "best phone in the world". Did you ever just want to hear the local news? to this day I do not understand how this iPods dont have this.


* regarding internet radio missing
iTunes on the PC can do it, the iPhone should be able to. Though I can see why they wouldn't add it, it'd probably compete with satelite radio companies like Sirius and XM. Not like it's a hardware only feature though, so they should be able to add it.--You misread my post this is a list of features not available on the new iPhone that ARE AVAILABLE on many other phones. I have internet radio (incl. shoutcast) on my S60 NOKIA, and it came like that from nokia. Plus, I dont see apple giving a rats a** about SIRIUS or XM or anybody really.

Most of them are good points. I wonder if Apple will ever do some kind of trade-in program for previous-gen iPhone owners, I'd very much like 3G access. Wouldn't mind getting credit towards a new one. :up:

[ugp]

So most of your wants on the camera... well if you don't like it then don't get it plan and simple, no need to complain about it. As for me I am getting it July 11th! I think it is bad ass and the price too... selling my current iPhone at $100 that was just replaced and I am looking forward to mostly the GPS and the 2.0 Firmware which of course will be available on both iPhone.

As for expansion slots they have to watch for privacy and others things with offloading files and further hacking. Of course that will never be stopped but it limits it.

Personally I think the added features are awesome and yes they could have added more like Video Recording but leave that to App makers. Remember the current average price of Apps is $3 due to most of the Apps being free and people have already made Video recording Apps.

[furrylemmings]

ok, its easy to rip into a new product because we all expect apple to somehow always produce something perfect and flawless, but lets not forget the features it does have:

IPOD
Gps (which is an achievement in a phone that thin)
A usable internet browser
Huge internal storage
the whole multi-touch thing going on
an awesome ui
pretty damn huge screen for a phone too
and now a more reasonable price

@ Senater_Cache
yes the features you listed are missing, but:
the camera ones aren't necessary, and although you say a lot of other phones do have them, is there anything that has the features youve listed AND the ones of the iphone?

[Shaz]

So HTC can make phones with all those features (although the cameras need some work, but they're business phones so yeah) yet Apple can make it shiny and it sells on that?

[dinos22]

you forgot to add another feature

give a blowjob every morning :ROTF::p:


and on that note lol i think you're being a tad harsh
i would love to have tomtom based functionality and would definitely buy one if it had it

FUGGER uses first gen ones.....i used his a little last year...pretty sweet phones

[Envydia007]

iphone is the best phone ever, im getting the new one as well on July 11th.

[Zytek_Fan]

I might get one if my family switches over to AT&T for our wireless plan, which I doubt will happen...

[Bandwidth]

I agree the new IPhone is disappointing, same crapy camera, same one year old look :down:

How hard is it to add MMS and Copy&Paste functions? This is a joke.

I was planning on getting one, but after seeing how lacking in features it is when compared to newer phones, I won't get it anymore.

I'll wait a few months and get the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1, it has way better features and the screen resolution is 800x480 compared to IPhones 320x480 :yepp:

Check out a comparison between the two phones here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=2424&idPhone1=2246

[Buckeye]

Ha, @Bandwidth !

Amiga Workbench V1.3 I love that and I still use Amiga Forever :)


Back to the iPhone, I have gotten very used to it but some things do bug me.

I use Maps a lot. But after I get it all setup and zoomed in to where I want it if I let it sit for any length of time while driving it will reset to full zoomed out and I have to rezoom back in, real pain while driving.

Another thing is when using Safari while out and about it can really suck down battery life very fast. So in that respect I cannot see any internet related material very usefull when away from a charger.

A much better camera would be really nice to so I don't have to carry around another camera.

The GPS sounds very nice to me but not for any extra cost.

I will pass on the new phones.

[ugp]

I don't know but hands down I think the iPhone is still the best phone I have ever used. The software by far makes it the best phone out there. It is reliable and runs fast. I have used several Smartphones and none compare to the iPhone. The others ran slow, lack the beautiful screen, etc...

Although this is what we call an opinion and everyone is entitled to their own.

[AnXioZ]

The iPhone 3G is made to be sold to the masses. Apple is trying to get as much as market share and iPhone user base as possible. Which means that they will have to settle for less quality and more quantity.
Probably when they settle with 20+ mill. users they will finally introduce an iPhone with better design and maybe a 2.5MPx camera, but don't expect it to be 199$ :)

[Reznik Akime]

I really still have yet to get on this Apple bandwagon. I toyed with an Iphone for a bit and it just didn't do much for me. And 3G? It would be more relevant if ATT had 3G deployed out as widespread as Edge before releasing this phone. I know they are expanding, but they are taking their sweet time. Hell, some places already have the 3G antennas up for a year already but still have yet to turn it on.

I like my Pantech Duo well enough. :shrug:

My only complaint is storage and Wifi, but if I really cared for that I would have gone with an HTC.

Please, Why IPhone?

[ugp]

I really still have yet to get on this Apple bandwagon. I toyed with an Iphone for a bit and it just didn't do much for me. And 3G? It would be more relevant if ATT had 3G deployed out as widespread as Edge before releasing this phone. I know they are expanding, but they are taking their sweet time. Hell, some places already have the 3G antennas up for a year already but still have yet to turn it on.

I like my Pantech Duo well enough. :shrug:

My only complaint is storage and Wifi, but if I really cared for that I would have gone with an HTC.

Please, Why IPhone?

It cost money to turn them on. AT&T is spending a lot of money this year to turn them all on and get 3G up and running just about everywhere they have coverage. My area I live in is going to be turned on for 3G on August 30th and my county isn't that big. We also have an additional 10 towers going up. If you all want to know a date when you will have 3G give me the City and State and I can tell you. I sell AT&T products and have access to this info. AT&T is spending 220 Million alone on Florida this year for tower placement.

[vptcr]

I am going to get a 3G one asap. The limitations are ok for me. I am a fan of Steve Jobs. He is the greatest computer guy ever. He cannot make mistakes.

[Empty_Quarter]

If they missed features, they missed it purposely. I mean, they can't put everything into one iphone, they gotta leave some ideas out for the next one!

I think the most important feature in this new iphone, above all 3G and GPS and all other goodies, is the price, I think we can all agree.

[yankee]

Abso-lutely, quarter! @ 299 you can't beat it. I'll be in line the morning of Jul 11.

This thread title = epic fail.

[YMAA]

I found new respect for Apple yesterday while typing in a text message. The iPhone knew it should capitalize the letters Chuck and Norris, meaning they were in the predictive keypad's dictionary.

[ugp]

I found new respect for Apple yesterday while typing in a text message. The iPhone knew it should capitalize the letters Chuck and Norris, meaning they were in the predictive keypad's dictionary.

LMAO!

[Celeron Gamer]

Yea! I agree! What about launching nukes? And creating world peace?

Not offense or anything, but that is kinda blind hate there.

You know that you're expect too much right? With those arguments, I could go

Battery life??? Less than 10 hours talktime???
628MHz proc???
Multi-touch glass top display???
Ultra-bright backlight???
Slim???

on the rest of the phones on the market.

Personally, I had an iphone before I sold it, and it was pretty well made. This is coming from someone who used PDA phones as a TV remote, flash disk, adv. calc, 16bit console emus, office docs, emails and all that crap.

I didn't find the iTunes annoying, infact it worked better than that MS ActiveSync, Palm HotSync, Moto Phone Tools, SE software crap.

Also I don't get what you mean by no themes, as when I had mine, I put a lot of themes onto it.

[ugp]

I have already put my current iPhone on eBay. Now is the time to sell them. They are going for $350-$500+ easy right now. So if you have one get rid of it now if your buying the new one.

[yankee]

As the 1st gen iphone is eol, I think they're going to go up in price until someone figures out how to jailbreak the new ones.

[ugp]

As the 1st gen iphone is eol, I think they're going to go up in price until someone figures out how to jailbreak the new ones.

Well the new ones have to be attached to your account in store so it will cut down on that a lot and requires a higher monthly fee so some people aren't too happy about that and would rather stick with the 1st gen without the 3G and GPS. Really the only differences.

My iPhone sold within hours for $300.

[LaMpiR]

I am thinking of buying new Iphone 3G. I just have to wait for the cracked version. I was thinking about getting a new Nokia N95 8GB but it's expensive($650) in comparison to Iphone. Aldo, it has a lot more to offer. I'm bored with Nokia interface and I would like some change :)

Will new 3G iPhones be available on ebay?

[LaMpiR]

I was just looking and there are a lot of apps for iPhone. I will definatelly get one!

[furrylemmings]

My mam has the iphone, and my dad has the n95, both have their advantages, the iphone is much slimmer, the os is a lot slicker, but the n95 has a normal keypad, great quality camera and (if it ever happens) ngage

[LaMpiR]

Well camera quality is no something that is most defining factor for me. I need camera but I could use phone without it. I need smartphone with many programs on it for everyday use. N95 is complicated there because there are many bugs etc... I'm not saying that there are no bugs with iPhone but I will definately try it.

[Chruschef]

So HTC can make phones with all those features (although the cameras need some work, but they're business phones so yeah) yet Apple can make it shiny and it sells on that?

Okay, lets be a little bit more honest about how we look at this.

I used to own an HTC cellphone, it was nice, relatively fast, but always very annoying to use. Having large fingers, I couldn't use the touch screen and was forced to use those annoying stylus. Not to mention they're quite slow, the interface is not very nice, and is usually quite ugly. The HTC mobiles are often reguarded as the best "windows based" cellular option.

The HTC mobiles are usually a pain in the arse to use, and the touch screens are terrible, it seems everyone consistently under mind the innovation of using heat-sensitive glass instead of the LCD panels in the iPhone. The iPhone simply put, is quite nice to use. It's very intuitive, an uneducated idiot could figure it out, in a pretty shiny box you can brag to your friends about. A little bit of bragging rights never hurt anyone, why else buy a fancy computer and overclock it to the max, even though you don't need that much power? Whether or not you like the features of the iPhone they're easier to access, and much easier to use. The features of an iPhone aren't quite bad considering they're easy to use. I mean what more do you need than internet, email, notes, music, SMS chat(like AIM), an "okay" camera and YouTube integrated into your cellular device? Apple isn't cramming features into a little contraption like a couple of the other companies, I just recently found out that I could use the internet on my old HTC mobile, because it was hidden away in an obscure file. Apple eliminates this, and replaces it with a simple dashboard of options, and one button to return you to this screen. A little side note, 3G networking! That's 750mb download rate.

Simply put, the iPhone is fun to use, HTC(and other iPhone competitors aren't).

I may seem extremely biased, because I am. I love my iPhone compared to its competitors, which I have tried. It's simply, pretty, and fast.

[LaMpiR]

Does anyone know what would be the price of new 3G iPhone? Both 8GB and 16GB version without contract?

[Chruschef]

A LOT. 500-600 USD for the 16 gig, 400-500USD for 8gig.

have no fear, if you already have an AT&T, you can resign the contract for another year? it might be two.. and have the phone subsidized by the plan.:yepp:

[LaMpiR]

I don't even live in US so I so I don't have the contract...

[Chruschef]

same thing, everywhere you can use an iPhone.. Keeping in mind that the iPhone simcards are locked. The iPhone 3G also runs on the O 2 network?

[Tulatin]

I am going to get a 3G one asap. The limitations are ok for me. I am a fan of Steve Jobs. He is the greatest computer guy ever. He cannot make mistakes.

I rather like how this subtle troll has recieved no attention.

[Aberration]

Until you mentioned it. Dont feed the trolls.

[Chruschef]

iphone 3g still kicks butt :P

[kLeos]

just get a nokia e66 or n95/96 (96 is hella expensive though)
problem solved ;)
better camera, sd slot compatibility, tom tom, and a lot more ;)

[LaMpiR]

Or if you don't preffer slider, just get N82...

[Shaz]

Okay, lets be a little bit more honest about how we look at this.

I used to own an HTC cellphone, it was nice, relatively fast, but always very annoying to use. Having large fingers, I couldn't use the touch screen and was forced to use those annoying stylus. Not to mention they're quite slow, the interface is not very nice, and is usually quite ugly. The HTC mobiles are often reguarded as the best "windows based" cellular option.

The HTC mobiles are usually a pain in the arse to use, and the touch screens are terrible, it seems everyone consistently under mind the innovation of using heat-sensitive glass instead of the LCD panels in the iPhone. The iPhone simply put, is quite nice to use. It's very intuitive, an uneducated idiot could figure it out, in a pretty shiny box you can brag to your friends about. A little bit of bragging rights never hurt anyone, why else buy a fancy computer and overclock it to the max, even though you don't need that much power? Whether or not you like the features of the iPhone they're easier to access, and much easier to use. The features of an iPhone aren't quite bad considering they're easy to use. I mean what more do you need than internet, email, notes, music, SMS chat(like AIM), an "okay" camera and YouTube integrated into your cellular device? Apple isn't cramming features into a little contraption like a couple of the other companies, I just recently found out that I could use the internet on my old HTC mobile, because it was hidden away in an obscure file. Apple eliminates this, and replaces it with a simple dashboard of options, and one button to return you to this screen. A little side note, 3G networking! That's 750mb download rate.

Simply put, the iPhone is fun to use, HTC(and other iPhone competitors aren't).

I may seem extremely biased, because I am. I love my iPhone compared to its competitors, which I have tried. It's simply, pretty, and fast.

My HTC hasn't really been a problem for me at all. Couple of third party apps like a new keyboard and it's not an issue at all, and I have big fingers.

[Ghigo]

If you buyed a new iphone G3 , do a restore on it, will download a new final firmware , all the shipped phones got an older installed.

[YMAA]

BTW..."rickroll" is in the iPhone dictionary as well.

[nosboost300]

meh, Iphone is okay in my book.. sure looks pretty and runs smooth... but if i was to choose any touchscreen phone... it'd be a htc xv 6900 or a samsung sch-i760... i like my copy and paste functions and tend to use it alot... and flash player on the phone is nice to you know.. another thing the iphone doesnt have...

does iphone have microsoft word and xcel yet?

i myself am a fan of full on keyboards on the phone... so i can't stand that retarded minibutton screen text stuff.... i'm on a xv6700 right now.. i loved it when it was in its prime.. but not its just kinda old.. and i've dropped it a number of times... so its not running on par.. lol... but thankfully i bought a spare xv6700... and i'm getting the samsung sch i760 for free in a week or 2


anyway... long story short.... iphones are incredibly nice.. and i find people just like to pick on it... its not a bad phone.. and i don't think you can compare it to pda's and what not.. as that is not the market its after

and to Chruschef...
its a damn phone.... i don't really think it needs to be fun to me... as long as it gets what i want done... who cares if its fun... if i wanted fun i'd buy a psp or a gameboy or something...

[LaMpiR]

On ebay, new iPhone 3G can't be found under $700. That is waaaay to expensive...

[Newblar]

On ebay, new iPhone 3G can't be found under $700. That is waaaay to expensive...

jeez
couldnt even imagine how much the 6G iphones cost

[Justintoxicated]

I think I'll keep my vx8700 a while longer. I can use teathering for the laptop to get wireless intnernet anywhere. And stream music via A2DP to my car stereo. I can also send contracts via bluetooth to the car stereo bluetooth. It also has a built in GPS through verizon that I never use due to having a real GPS. I rarely use the camera. I hate touch screen as I can't operate the phone without looking at it.... My phone is old but seems more capable than the Iphone other than in storage.

[ugp]

I saw a 16GB iPhone sell for $2550 the first night. That is a hell of a profit. Considering the guy added a line to his account and only paid $299 and then just replaced the iPhone with a regular phone and removed the iPhone data plan. As long as you keep the contract there is no penalties.

[Andrew LB]

I just had the chance to check out my friends new G3 iPhone and I thought it was excellent. You can actually use the internet with good speed instead of the original model which was like having dial up internet. The menus were super quick and the GPS was very nice. I also liked how you can use it with WiFi to get additional speed.

I think I'll keep my vx8700 a while longer. I can use teathering for the laptop to get wireless intnernet anywhere. And stream music via A2DP to my car stereo. I can also send contracts via bluetooth to the car stereo bluetooth. It also has a built in GPS through verizon that I never use due to having a real GPS. I rarely use the camera. I hate touch screen as I can't operate the phone without looking at it.... My phone is old but seems more capable than the Iphone other than in storage.

I'm currently sticking with my current phone as well. It's a 3G V3xx Razr that works perfectly with the bluetooth integrated audio system in my Audi A4 so I can dial calls through my steering wheel controls. Plus, my car has navigation.... so no need for a phone with it. Regardless, if a cop is California sees you holding up your iPhone to check out your navigation.... they'll pull you over and give you a ticket. (law began July 1st)

I also like how my Razr V3xx is super easy to use, the Opera Mini browser gets me what I need to know when I don't have my Dell M1530 notebook with me, and when I do, I can either use my V3xx via a USB cable to give the notebook 3G wireless broadband anywhere I am. I can also put my SIM card into the back of the notebook as well for mobile broadband anywhere I want.



For the longest time, I thought the 3G iPhone would have had a video camera on the front of it so you can use it as a video-phone... but i guess that was dropped. Just goes to show that it was worth it to wait for the 3rd generation iPhone. Because i'm sure you remembered the original iPods right? It wasn't until the 3rd generation that they finally refined the product enough for me to buy it.

And as for the camera.... I've got a 12.2mp Canon Digital Rebel XSi for REAL photography.

[TSFroggy]

As a person who doesn't have any camera skills, and loves fast internet, and has an aircard for internet usage, I love my iPhone 3G for productivity on the go. I love it, and I'm a hardcore PC user. I get into arguments with my friends all the time, but the idea is clear. The iPhone got so many things right, and then they added 3G and made it even near perfect.

It's just an amazing device, and definitely is not a disappointment to me.

[Ghost742]

my friend got the 3g and all i can say is that the battery life is terrible. it doesnt have features that every phone should have, how do you forward a txt on there any way.
for a 400 dollar phone your not getting much, my xv6700 beats it in features and expandability any day, my touch screen may not be as big and my phone isn't as slim but im happy knowing i can easily customize my phones os

[Circaflex]

The fact you cannot do MMS or record video makes me wonder why people are so obsessed with this phone. Paying close to 70 dollars for the base option is just stupid, you only get 200 texts with that. For 30 bucks a month i get 500 minutes, ulimited texts/email/internet/photosharing/movie sending on a phone that might not look as cool as the iphone but has many more features.

[vaio]

Much prefer my lil LG Viewty :)

[sky]

um, as a non americano.. is there any company selling the 3g iphones without a contract attached to them yet? i do remember some talk of at&t thinking of going down that road eventually, as it would make for faster profit for them compared to say the slow but steady revenue coming in via contracts..

[DMH]

um, as a non americano.. is there any company selling the 3g iphones without a contract attached to them yet? i do remember some talk of at&t thinking of going down that road eventually, as it would make for faster profit for them compared to say the slow but steady revenue coming in via contracts..

In here(Portugal) they're selling it without a contract attached for 499€ the 8G and 599€(with a 10€ refund from your old cell phone)

[Jake_1]

I think the iPhone is quite good considering Apple havent made a phone or similiar device before.

I have my Sony Ericsson P1i, I love it. Only on O2 as far as i know, but still, its competition for the iPhone imo.

[pwolfe]

internet radio can be had on the 3g via the appstore. The app is called "tuner" It costs 5.99 and absolutely f*ck*ng rocks! I'm listening to bassdrive on it as we speak.

[Malcontent]

I can also send contracts via bluetooth to the car stereo bluetooth.
^ thats awesome and every thing but why would your car want ur contracts?:rofl:
I was thinking about buying the 3g but the battery life (or lack there of) and cost of the plans talked me out of it.

[yankee]

internet radio can be had on the 3g via the appstore. The app is called "tuner" It costs 5.99 and absolutely f*ck*ng rocks! I'm listening to bassdrive on it as we speak.

Not to mention last.fm and pandora both have free apps.

[sky]

yea, so i'm basically back to square one here..
my options are somewhat limited - me want touchscreen and looks.

apple iphone 3g
lg ku990 (viewty)
samsung i900 omnia

nokia n96 (no touchy bah)

but it's just retarded. the pricing scheme of the contracts available here (.de) for the iphone are so g4y, you wouldn't believe. the most basic contract runs 24mo and sets you back about 1 grand. one with some kind of net flatrate (that still is going to be limited to about 64kbit/s after you managed to transfer 5gb/mo) sets you back some 2.2 grand!! so it's not even a real flat. 5gig is the limit - wtf? i'm better of with other tariffs - that, oh the irony - of course aren't available for the iphone. and this is all contracts of the one and only telco company that sells them around here.
if it weren't for all that, i'd probably have one now. but no way in hell am i paying 2 grand for something that doesn't even offer me unlimited service, has no video camera, no mms option, and a crap camera. although i do see the point being made above - i, too, have a real 8mp camera, my trusty olde sony f828 - and wouldn't actually need another one, but my current (3yr old) phone (k750i se) does better pics than an iphone and can do video as well. besides i could swap my battery if needed. but there is times where you do not want to lug around your big clunky brick of a camera and just take a few quick snaps with your phone (ever been in a restaurant whipping your big camera out? funny looks is what you get, among other things...).
i just wish for them to sell it free and unlocked to whoever fancies it. besides it's price being somewhat to high anyway. it's the new apple cashcow, i'm thinking. bah.

oh and is anyone else thinking that the next ipod touch is gonna be 64gb or more and that just about then a new iphone with a magical 32gb will pop up? i'd love to have an iphone with more than just 16gb storage space - like real usable combination of ipod and phone. the phone doesn't need much space, agreed, but the ipod does - and 30gb doesn't even fit all my music...

/end rant ;)

[EvlUndrWareNome]

android.

open platform with multiple touch screens coming. im waiting.

[Chruschef]

I love my iphone 3 G.. Kicks some hardcore ass. Super fast 3G networking, and coverage almost everywhere.
Great phone.

[Janno]

HTC touch cruise or diamond anyone? :D
i'm gettin' one, forgetz the iphone!

[Ghost742]

ya i have a apache(verizon xv6700) flashed to htc os with new windows mobile 6.
works like a charm.

and there is a chip coming out for the iphone that will unlock it, just a heads up.

[Chruschef]

double post read the next one.

[Chruschef]

i think the choice of the iphone comes down to the platform of music you use.. The people who use itunes will usually choose an iPhone for the ability to put all of their music on the iphone, or create a playlist in a mintue with the music, movies, and tv shows they want.

For a macintosh user, its also a no brainer. Plug it in, hook it up to your itunes account and it streams all of your contacts, your email account, your music, and if you choose to a folder to stream onto all of your computers using the same iTunes account, including windows.

[CandymanCan]

Yay for my PSP and Razor 2. :)


Internet on the psp, internet radio, my phonme has a better camera, psp can play movies, games, photo's, music, Iphone is just overkill. I get free music on my PSP also..

[MaxxxRacer]

I got my 3G iPhone on July 11th and am not regretting it one bit. Its by far the coolest piece of tech I have ever seen. And now with the 2.1 Firmware update, most of the sofware issues I had with it are fixed.

As of now there are only really 3 things I want from it. To play video from the web (avi, wmv, mpeg, etc), have flash via Safari and MMS. But to be hoenst, I rarely have a use for MMS anyway, so that isnt such a big deal.

[crackhead2k]

If the Camera was 5.2MP/480X720 Pix i would buy it..maybe....

[MaxxxRacer]

If the Camera was 5.2MP/480X720 Pix i would buy it..maybe....

So you are basing your phone purchase based on the megapixel resolution of the onboard camera. If you want such great photos from it, cary around a pocket camera. They have ones that are smaller than the iPhone and take good pictures.

[Pressure]

Absolutely the best phone I have ever had. Makes my old Sony Ericsson W880i feel barbaric.

[ugp]

I agree with the best phone I have ever owned. And with the 2.1 firmware I am completely happy with mine now.

[Celeron Gamer]

I got the iPhone 3G, and in terms of sleekness, it's awesome. I can just slide it into my jeans pocket, unlike the brick PDA phones which makes you look like you got a carton of cigs on you.

[RealRedRaider]

My 3G iPhone, allows me to satisfy my XS addiction in daily doses...:up:

[Janno]

well... i must say that the htc diamond + opera 9.5 is the best web browsing experience i've ever had :p:

[MaxxxRacer]

well... i must say that the htc diamond + opera 9.5 is the best web browsing experience i've ever had :p:

I had opera on my HTC mogul and it wasnt anywhere near as nice as Safari. The only big problem I have with the iphone is that you cannot download data from the net directly to the phone other than photos. I want to download music and videos. And I want to be able to play videos other than MOV and mp4.