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Cibic
02-27-2009, 03:06 PM
That's the point, lol. It doesn't even get that far with any voltage up to 1.5vcore in BIOS, and Loadline Enabled. With that high a voltage my Noctua Uh12p just can't cope and temps soar quickly into the 80s.

Whoa! You are killing your cpu mate. Limit your overclock, or you will limit your cpu usage permanently.

joebloggs
02-27-2009, 03:20 PM
Don't worry i only ran it there for 1 minute, it saved me from resetting it as it restarted itself. I'm happy with 3.2ghz. Just need to get my RAM up to 1600mhz now. Any ideas?

Cibic
02-27-2009, 06:06 PM
Page 20 last post. the rest I dont mention in timings page, set to auto

Cibic
02-27-2009, 06:31 PM
ozgunkara sorry mate, missed it. Try these settings:

Required System Specifications
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = Hiper 780watt
CPU = intel Q6700
RAM = 2x 2gb OCZ Platinum 1333mhz
HDD = 2x Samsung hd250hj 250gb
VGA1 = Zotac GTX 285
VGA2 ( if you have ) = none
VGA3 ( if you have ) = none
SPU ( Sound Card ) = none
NorthBridge Cooling = stock, water
SouthBridge Cooling = stock
CPU Cooling = koolance cpu-340 water
RAM Cooling = koolance ram-35 water
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = 15.23
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = 181.22
Sound Card Drivers Version = none
BIOS version 1202 REQUIRED 1202

BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 10.0 This results in 3.33GHz, 9x results in 2.99GHz and 8x to 2.66GHz.
If you are going for 8x which is at stock frequency, check your VID votlage in coretemp and whatever is there set in CPU Voltage
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Sync Mode
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1333
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = 200
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Auto but once you are stable prime95 blend for 4 hours, try enabling this and blend test for another 8 hours
P2 = Auto but once you are stable prime95 blend for 4 hours, try enabling this and blend test for another 8 hours
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 7
tRCD = 7
tRP = 7
tRAS = 20
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 2T
tRRD = auto 4
tRC = 40
tWR = auto 12
tWTR = auto 16
tFAW = auto 17
tRD = auto 9
tRTP = auto 5
tRFC = 80
tREF = auto 7.8uS

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = Find the voltage you are stable, if you are going for 3.3Ghz you could start at 1.4v actual (in voltage monitor)
Loadline Calibration = disabled
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.54 for 10x multiplier, 1.52 for 9x and 1.5 for 8x
CPU VTT Voltage = 1.4 for 10x, 1.38 for 9x and 1.36 for 8x
Memory Voltage = 1.8 it could average at 1.82, once you are stable you can drop it at 1.78 but check with prime95 blend plus memtest for windows for at least 4 hours
NB Core Voltage = 1.46 for 10x, 1.42 for 9x and it might do 1.38 for 8x
SB Core Voltage = 1.5
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = auto

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = auto
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Enabled
Virtualization Technology = Enabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Enabled for 8x, disabled for 9x or 10x
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 = Enabled
CPU Core 4 = Enabled

Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled

Keep spectrum's disabled for now and once you are stable enable the ones you can and test some more.

Cibic
02-28-2009, 08:28 AM
EDIT2- I am using the latest PC Probe II, and SB voltage, is sometimes dropping to 0.00v and OPT3 fan drops to 0 rpm during stress testing. Should I be worried?

I forgot to tell you that PC Probe conflicts with CPU-Z. Notice that you will not get so many misreadings if you dont launch CPU-Z for a testing session.

joebloggs
02-28-2009, 09:25 AM
Thanks for the info on that mate, I don't opn cpu-z and other monitoring software at the same time. I found that Electromigration was causing it. i.e. when vcore is set above 1.5v it causes PC Probe II to behave wierdly. Since I can't run 3.6 with safe voltages, I'm staying at 3.2ghz. Testing out these ram settings now.

By the way, has anyone else had this issue I had of after a failed overclock, the mobo would "ignore" your OS boot hard drive?

ozgunkara
02-28-2009, 02:46 PM
hallo
thank you for your help. I tried to use the settings you recommended using the 9x settings but i couldn't get past the windows sign it always freezes before i see the desktop. i tried vcore between 1.3 and 1.45. what should i do?

Cibic
02-28-2009, 03:05 PM
Use the most stable settings, as in 8x settings, P1 & P2 auto. It usually crashes if the CPU is unstable, freezing means its either ram or mainboard. Have you ever checked your ram with memtest?
Make sure you got the right settings, start with 1.46 NB for now.

Devour
03-01-2009, 12:24 AM
cibic i think its best if i set the volts back to the older setting which did run blend and gpu stable and from there on try and fix the mem problem

ozgunkara
03-01-2009, 01:43 AM
hello
i tried with the 8x settings too, but i can never boot properly. when i set all the settings to auto it works properly but freezes randomly. when i use the settings you written i can't boot properly. i tried memtest86 using a cd. it starts but reboots the pc after 30seconds. do i have a memory problem?

Cibic
03-01-2009, 04:25 AM
cibic i think its best if i set the volts back to the older setting which did run blend and gpu stable and from there on try and fix the mem problem

You can't achieve stability by going lower. The thing is you shouldn't run prime95 blend and gpu caps viewer together until your cpu, ram, mainboard is stable first or it degrades the torture of memory and cpu. if u get failing cores again, do this:

Increase vCore so on load it drops to 1.225, you can use LoadLine Calibration if you wish (so your voltage won't go over 1.23) and reduce VTT to 1.22.

At this point if you still get failing cores then there's something else that's unstable. Test memory with either memtest86+ for dos or windows (preferred), let it run for 6-8 loops or 200%.

By the way, you could be very close to stable once you eliminate failing core issue.

Cibic
03-01-2009, 04:30 AM
hello
i tried with the 8x settings too, but i can never boot properly. when i set all the settings to auto it works properly but freezes randomly. when i use the settings you written i can't boot properly. i tried memtest86 using a cd. it starts but reboots the pc after 30seconds. do i have a memory problem?

Sounds like it gets less voltage somewhere. Probably vCore.

For starts you can let me know what msg do you see on LCD poster, or where it usually restarts/freezes.

Print or write down the voltages I gave you, then set everything on auto and compare values in voltage monitor and let me know if there's something lower.

Cibic
03-02-2009, 06:26 AM
Note to all people using prime95 blend and gpu caps viewer to find NB voltage: If you found the appropriate voltage and you have P1 & P2 to Enabled then set vNB a notch higher for utmost stability.

ozgunkara
03-02-2009, 09:21 AM
BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 10.0 This results in 3.33GHz, 9x results in 2.99GHz and 8x to 2.66GHz.
If you are going for 8x which is at stock frequency, check your VID votlage in coretemp and whatever is there set in CPU Voltage
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Sync Mode
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1333
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = 200
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Auto but once you are stable prime95 blend for 4 hours, try enabling this and blend test for another 8 hours
P2 = Auto but once you are stable prime95 blend for 4 hours, try enabling this and blend test for another 8 hours
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 7
tRCD = 7
tRP = 7
tRAS = 20
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 2T
tRRD = auto 4
tRC = 40
tWR = auto 12
tWTR = auto 16
tFAW = auto 17
tRD = auto 9
tRTP = auto 5
tRFC = 80
tREF = auto 7.8uS

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = I set 1.3 but read 1.32 in voltage monitor
Loadline Calibration = disabled
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.5 for 8x I set 1.5 but read 1.52 in voltage monitor
CPU VTT Voltage = 1.36 for 8x I set 1.36 but read 1.39 in voltage monitor
Memory Voltage = I set 1.8 but read 1.87 in voltage monitor
NB Core Voltage = 1.38 for 8x I set 1.38 but read 1.42 in voltage monitor
SB Core Voltage = 1.5 I set 1.5 but read 1.48 in voltage monitor
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = auto

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = auto
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Enabled
Virtualization Technology = Enabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Enabled for 8x, disabled for 9x or 10x
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 = Enabled
CPU Core 4 = Enabled

Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled

hi
I set the settings you written for 8x and checked the voltages on voltage monitor in the bios and saw these differences and noted them for you. you asked where it froze. It freezes the moment you see the windows vista sign before you see the desktop. So i can't see the desktop.

ozgunkara
03-02-2009, 09:37 AM
Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = 1.31
Loadline Calibration = disabled
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.52
CPU VTT Voltage = 1.23
Memory Voltage = i set 1.74 to read 1.8
NB Core Voltage = 1.34
SB Core Voltage = 1.48
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = auto

hi
these are the settings for 10x stock settings using all auto voltages. i only set memory manually in order to get 1.8 stable. other settings are set auto and i read them again in voltage monitor in bios.

ozgunkara
03-02-2009, 09:39 AM
i forgot to tell there is no error messege on LCD poster.

Cibic
03-02-2009, 10:35 AM
That's odd. Try my settings again with 1.76 Memory voltage and 1.44 NB, PLL 1.52, VTT 1.28 with Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled this time.
Also check if memory timings are correct.

ozgunkara
03-02-2009, 01:09 PM
hello
i did what you said. Memory timings are just like what you said. I used the settings you told me and tried vcore between 1.3-1.4 but it was never stable enough to see the desktop. it froze just before you see the desktop.

Cibic
03-02-2009, 01:46 PM
It could be something overheating - explains why voltage increment leads to freezing. Check your temps (from temperature monitor in bios) asap after a freezing. While watching NB, SB temps (should be under 60 Celsius) touch with the back of your hand skin your ram sticks and try to keep it there for 8-10 seconds.
You can try every voltage on auto, since it boots, but with 1.76 or 1.78 vDimm and test memory for 10-12 loops (memtest86+) or 200% (memtest for windows, prefered).

owcraftsman
03-06-2009, 06:41 AM
By the way, has anyone else had this issue I had of after a failed overclock, the mobo would "ignore" your OS boot hard drive?

Yes I have with an unstable OC. Nvidia Sata Controller is prone to data corruption with improper setting. Normally resetting to stable clocks in bios will resolve the issue but I have completely hosed the windows installation when overclocking and testing in windows. An alternative to avoid data corruption is to test not in windows. Try UBCD v5.0b12 iso (http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1814) boot to it and run Prime95 and memtest from it. Once stable then boot to windows and test again beware slight voltage increases may be needed for windows depending on how you tweaked your voltages. If you are an "Auto" man get away from it and hard set things in bios.
If you really want help with this post up your bios settings using one of the templates below and your system specs.

ozgunkara
03-07-2009, 03:28 PM
hi cibic
i tried memtest86+ few times but it always froze during the 50% of the first loop. i checked the temperatures and they were below 60. (i watercool the northbridge,cpu and RAM) i could not check the RAM temperature because of the water block. it is a Koolance block so i don't think the Ram are overheating. If you think i have a problem with the RAM i am thinking of buying OCZ3N1800SR4GK . they are 150$ in Amazon and they are SLI Ready. do you think they would work stable on this board?

owcraftsman
03-07-2009, 07:56 PM
You have some bad settings somewhere change the setting below and put your setting in:

PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = Corsair HX1000 ( 1000W )
CPU = Intel QX9650
RAM = OCZ DDR3-1600 Platinum Edition 4GB Kit ( OCZ3P20004GK )
HDD = Western Digital Raptor ( 300GB x2 Raid 0)
VGA1 = PNY GeForce 280GTX 1GB
VGA2 = none
VGA3 = none
SPU ( Sound Card ) = AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude
NorthBridge Cooling = Bitpower water block
SouthBridge Cooling = Bitpower water block
CPU Cooling = custom water cooled with Swiftech water block
RAM Cooling = OCZ Memory Cooler
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = nVIDIA nFORCE Drivers v15.23
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = nVIDIA ForceWare v177.83
Sound Card Drivers Version = X-Fi Prelude RC7
BIOS version 0901

BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 9.0
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Synch
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1800
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1800
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 125
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = 200
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Enabled
P2 = Enabled
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 7
tRCD = 7
tRP = 7
tRAS = 18
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 2T
tRRD = 1
tRC = 28(25)
tWR = 10
tWTR = auto 27
tFAW = auto 29
tRD = auto 9
tRTP = auto 7
tRFC = 72)
tREF = 7.8us

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = 1.36250V (actual 1.41)
Loadline Calibration = Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.60V
CPU VTT voltage =1.4V
Memory Voltage = 1.86V (actual 1.9)
NB Core Voltage = 1.54 SB Core Voltage = 1.55V
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = -36mv
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = -40mv
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = -40mv
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = -36mv
NB GTL REF Ratio = auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = auto

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Enabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 = Enabled
CPU Core 4 = Enabled

Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled

Problem Description
Stable

Cibic
03-08-2009, 08:04 AM
hi cibic
i tried memtest86+ few times but it always froze during the 50% of the first loop. i checked the temperatures and they were below 60. (i watercool the northbridge,cpu and RAM) i could not check the RAM temperature because of the water block. it is a Koolance block so i don't think the Ram are overheating. If you think i have a problem with the RAM i am thinking of buying OCZ3N1800SR4GK . they are 150$ in Amazon and they are SLI Ready. do you think they would work stable on this board?

Not sure mate, freezing in memtest means they need more voltage. Try running them at 1.8v and see if that freezes. It could be that you CPU doesn't like 8x multi. To be certain try single stick and use white slots on motherboard.

Cibic
03-08-2009, 08:10 AM
owcraftsman are those your settings, or a suggestion to someone? Bit confusing I might say, I guess its running OCZ DDR3 2000? Anyhow, I have some improvements in mind if you want to hear them.

owcraftsman
03-08-2009, 11:29 AM
They are settings I've used but I'm more interested in what ozgunkara is using in order to assist.

Oh and suggest away TY

Cibic
03-08-2009, 06:07 PM
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = Corsair HX1000 ( 1000W )
CPU = Intel QX9650
RAM = OCZ DDR3-16000 Platinum Edition 4GB Kit ( OCZ3P20004GK )
HDD = Western Digital Raptor ( 300GB x2 Raid 0)
VGA1 = PNY GeForce 280GTX 1GB
VGA2 = none
VGA3 = none
SPU ( Sound Card ) = AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude
NorthBridge Cooling = Bitpower water block
SouthBridge Cooling = Bitpower water block
CPU Cooling = custom water cooled with Swiftech water block
RAM Cooling = OCZ Memory Cooler
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = nVIDIA nFORCE Drivers v15.23
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = nVIDIA ForceWare v177.83
Sound Card Drivers Version = X-Fi Prelude RC7
BIOS version 0901

BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 9.0
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Synch
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1800
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1800
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 125 There's a minor performance gain but so not worth it, will need more NB,SB voltage thus gets your mainboard hot.
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = 200
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Disabled
P2 = Disabled

I have the same ram at 1800MHz also. This option is vicious, at 1800MHz of ram you might have corruptions which windows corrects for you. The erros are detectable in memtest86+ (10+ loops), note that it needs more vNB rather than vDimm.

tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 8
tRCD = 8
tRP = 8
tRAS = 28
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 2T
tRRD = Auto
tRC = 46
tWR = Auto
tWTR = Auto
tFAW = Auto
tRD = Auto
tRTP = Auto
tRFC = 102
tREF = 7.8us

I know these settings are quite relaxed for your taste (from what I can tell) but if you want 100% stability, the settings above are tested for 22 loops memtest86+ and 24h prime95 blend. Been playing lots of games, much encoding for a month now and no corruptions whatsoever.

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = 1.36250V (actual 1.41)
Loadline Calibration = Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.60V
CPU VTT voltage =1.4V
Memory Voltage = 1.88 averaging actual should be 1.9
NB Core Voltage = 1.56 with 1800FSB
SB Core Voltage = You can safely run this at 1.5v if you revert PCIE Bus Slots to 100, SPP<->MCP Ref Clock to 200. Note that I am running raid 0 stripe at 1800FSB and I don't need more than that.
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = -36mv
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = -40mv
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = -40mv
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = -36mv

I'm curious, do you get load drop while 100% load on prime95 blend with these cpu gtl refs?

NB GTL REF Ratio = auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF

You don't have to change these, but auto stands for that.

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Enabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 = Enabled
CPU Core 4 = Enabled

Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled

If your cpu temps are fine then you can run 2000FSB with ram at 9-9-9-30-2T, tRC 50, tRFC 110 and voltage at 1.9,1.92 (actual 1.92,1.95), vNB 1.6 (actual 1.62)

Other than that, you can say hello to utmost stability.

neo mike
03-08-2009, 10:44 PM
Your on the max vtt 1.4 anymore you risk frying you cpu, and why do u disable p1 p2 that totally kills the performance, bandwidth.

Do you really need a 50 trc for 2000, im running a 40 trc, at 2040mgz linked n synced, no p1 p2 high trc, kiss performance goodbye, just my opinion. I can pass memtest 1000 times with trc of 40, p1 p2 enabled, no data corruption at all.

Cibic
03-09-2009, 04:24 AM
Your on the max vtt 1.4 anymore you risk frying you cpu, and why do u disable p1 p2 that totally kills the performance, bandwidth.

Do you really need a 50 trc for 2000, im running a 40 trc, at 2040mgz linked n synced, no p1 p2 high trc, kiss performance goodbye, just my opinion. I can pass memtest 1000 times with trc of 40, p1 p2 enabled, no data corruption at all.

VTT can go higher without any issues, oc 45nm cpus quite some times. Overclocked a qx9650 with 1.44vCore and VTT, lapped at 4.5GHz and he's been running it for a year now, no issues, yet.

Yeah but you are running 2x1GB dimms, 2x2GB is another story. More density = much harder to stable. Besides, i would say quality weights to crucial compared to ocz, they clock a bit better.
These timings are loosened for 2GB (2x1GB) I know. But trust me they are ok for 4GB. P1 and P2 disabled for the same reason, though if I had 2x1GB dimms I would enable them, tight timigs more along with 1T command rate.

neo mike
03-09-2009, 10:23 AM
Just from what i have read higher than 1.4 vtt not good. Plenty of people with this board with 4 gigs of ram linked n synced with p1 p2 enabled, check your everest bandwidth with p1 p2 on auto, no bandwidth at all, have to have p1 p2 enabled. Yes 4 gigs 2x2 is harder, guys here have 8 gigs linked n synced at 1800mgz with p1 p2 enabled, so no problem to do.

Cibic
03-09-2009, 03:06 PM
Just from what i have read higher than 1.4 vtt not good. Plenty of people with this board with 4 gigs of ram linked n synced with p1 p2 enabled, check your everest bandwidth with p1 p2 on auto, no bandwidth at all, have to have p1 p2 enabled. Yes 4 gigs 2x2 is harder, guys here have 8 gigs linked n synced at 1800mgz with p1 p2 enabled, so no problem to do.

With proper cooling I might add. I must agree you get performance but does it worth corruption?

I can run 2080MHz with 9-9-9-30-2T tRC: 50, tRFC: 110 with 1.95v auto P1 & P2. I even get corruption at 1600 MHz with P1 and P2. Once a week I got game crash, or corrupted file on a flash memory etc. Small things, nothing major but still unstable in my opinion.

You see, those settings I gave that guy is for him only, he can follow them or ignore them. I know this, they should be disabled while overclocking, once you find a stable clock you can enable them unless corruption is present.

neo mike
03-09-2009, 03:18 PM
Ok, i never get corruption, data corruption only comes from trying to overclock your memory to far, i have no corruption at all, i can run 2090mgz 8-7-6-21 1t, with 0 corruption. To me you have to enable p1 p2, you just lose way to much performance when is on auto, your a smart guy, im sure you can get p1 p2 to work, your the only one i know having corruption, and what bios you running ?

Cibic
03-10-2009, 06:22 AM
1104, you really think its because of the bios?

neo mike
03-10-2009, 08:37 AM
well not sure, but i went from 1104 to 1202, not sure if thats it, but you could try 1202.

Cibic
03-10-2009, 09:32 AM
I'm quite hesitant to update to beta bios, I struggled to get as I am now. Did you use adwflash, or ezflash?

ozgunkara
03-10-2009, 10:06 AM
Hi cibic
i tried to increase memory voltage and i am stable with prime95 and memtest when i set 1.76 memory and everything on auto at stock 10x multiplier. However when i try to set 1333 fsb with 8x i can't get stable. Maybe it's the CPU's problem, that it doesn't overclock but windows doesn't seem to freezze anymore when i am at stock settings. I ordered the OCZ3N1800SR4GK RAM i mentioned, i will get them in 3-5 days. i want to use 1600 fsb. Which CPU would you recommend for 1600 fsb and do you think it would be possible to use the new RAM with my current Q6700?

neo mike
03-10-2009, 10:09 AM
i used ezflash, who said its a beta bios ? its not even on asus website, i like 1202.

Cibic
03-10-2009, 12:59 PM
Precisely its not on their website. Tried enabling them anyway, now I get failing cores everytime on cores 2 and 4 at 49 minutes with 1.58 to 1.64vNB and adequate vDimm that can run 2080 MHz (1.95v), since system passed 24h blend the only change I did is P1 and P2, motherboard liquid cooled, NB at 55 degrees Celsius on load (1.64v), Corsair dominator on top of ram. Proves once more that they are unstable with my system, anyhow got a list of settings I tried before and these are marked as a failure. But I pass if I disable 2 cores :shrug:

One important thing I forgot to mention, OCZ forums say that its because of quad core systems; they tend to strain the system more.

Do you get undetectable ram on CAS 9 when you link and sync your ram, or is it just 1104?

neo mike
03-10-2009, 01:34 PM
1202 runs fine in everyway, no issues that i can see. Well your first problem is your using OCZ memory, it has know issues with all 790i boards. Your stable, but enable p1 p2 and fail on certain cores, then its your OCZ bro, read the early part of striker thread, read the evga forums, OCZ major known issues with 790i, i wouldnt run it on this board. Trigger just got his overclock stable 4.0 ghz q9650, 8 gigs of ram 1800mgz linked n synced stable, but its patriot memory, with p1 p2 enabled.

Cibic
03-10-2009, 02:43 PM
There was an issue with OCZ and s2e but with earlier bios. I believe it was fixed, I was surfing OCZ's forums and people managed P1 and P2 with dual cores. I just might try bios 1202 but the problem is I haven't got a floppy drive or a floppy. The thing is I used to have OCZ DDR3 1600 but turned out they were defective so I RMA'ed them then exchanged them with OCZ DDR3 2000 with 50 pounds more. I thought of getting crucial or patriot but the difference was quite bigger so I skipped.

neo mike
03-10-2009, 02:53 PM
You can flash the bios on a usb flash driver also, i dont use floppys.

Cibic
03-10-2009, 03:00 PM
Ok, I'll do it then and I will post my results

ozgunkara
03-11-2009, 07:45 AM
Hi cibic
i tried to increase memory voltage and i am stable with prime95 and memtest when i set 1.76 memory and everything on auto at stock 10x multiplier. However when i try to set 1333 fsb with 8x i can't get stable. Maybe it's the CPU's problem, that it doesn't overclock but windows doesn't seem to freezze anymore when i am at stock settings. I ordered the OCZ3N1800SR4GK RAM i mentioned, i will get them in 3-5 days. i want to use 1600 fsb. Which CPU would you recommend for 1600 fsb and do you think it would be possible to use the new RAM with my current Q6700?

Cibic
03-11-2009, 01:14 PM
Of course mate, OCZ DDR3-1800 will do 1600 with tight timings at stock voltage. If you have proper cooling on cpu and fan flow on top of ram you should be okay. I can help you even with your new ram. Now, you need to decide what cpu speed you want to achieve, with 1600 FSB and 10x multi results to 4GHz, 9x 3.6GHz and 8x 3.2GHz. But from what I understand your CPU doesn't like 8x isn't that right? My cpu goes up to 9x but hates 7x.

Cibic
03-11-2009, 04:43 PM
neo mike bios 1202 rock. P1 & P2 Enabled, 8-8-8-28-2T, tRC:38, tWR:10, tRFC: 80, 1900MHz at just 1.94v and stable; I've seen a kick in performance too.
ozgunkara with your new OCZ memory it might be best to flash your board to version 1202.

owcraftsman
03-13-2009, 05:44 AM
Precisely its not on their website. Tried enabling them anyway, now I get failing cores everytime on cores 2 and 4 at 49 minutes with 1.58 to 1.64vNB and adequate vDimm that can run 2080 MHz (1.95v), since system passed 24h blend the only change I did is P1 and P2, motherboard liquid cooled, NB at 55 degrees Celsius on load (1.64v), Corsair dominator on top of ram. Proves once more that they are unstable with my system, anyhow got a list of settings I tried before and these are marked as a failure. But I pass if I disable 2 cores :shrug:

One important thing I forgot to mention, OCZ forums say that its because of quad core systems; they tend to strain the system more.

Do you get undetectable ram on CAS 9 when you link and sync your ram, or is it just 1104?

First it took 1202 for me to get QX9650 stable and I might add proper GTLREF voltage adjustments.
If core 1 and 3 ("cores 2 and 4") are failing at 49 min it could be heat related though.
IF not heat you may need to dial in a better GTLREF voltage not sure where you are at in this regard but the rule is if Core 0 or 1 fail increase GTLREF lanes 0 and 2 or if cores 2 or 3 fail raise GTLREF lanes 1 and 3 seeing your issue I'd say all your GTLREF voltages are set wrong. You need to find the high and the low that it will boot to then average them rounding up for a starting point for testing without changing your NB voltage if you change your NB voltages so changes your GTLREF voltage adjustment. So you'll need to test with a static NB voltage and resist bumping it + or - until you find the right GTL setting.

Cibic
03-13-2009, 06:29 AM
First it took 1202 for me to get QX9650 stable and I might add proper GTLREF voltage adjustments.
If core 1 and 3 ("cores 2 and 4") are failing at 49 min it could be heat related though.
IF not heat you may need to dial in a better GTLREF voltage not sure where you are at in this regard but the rule is if Core 0 or 1 fail increase GTLREF lanes 0 and 2 or if cores 2 or 3 fail raise GTLREF lanes 1 and 3 seeing your issue I'd say all your GTLREF voltages are set wrong. You need to find the high and the low that it will boot to then average them rounding up for a starting point for testing without changing your NB voltage if you change your NB voltages so changes your GTLREF voltage adjustment. So you'll need to test with a static NB voltage and resist bumping it + or - until you find the right GTL setting.

Good luck tweaking your gtl refs.
My cpu gtl ref's are fine. From 1.36 to 1.6 VTT it should be +56 +52 +52 +56 for 65nm with this board. They don't work the way you say nor you "find" them, its more like calculate and round them, as simple as that.

On my case though, after upgrading to bios 1202, all I needed was more vNB (1.62v) to run 1900FSB then I passed the 4 hour barrier. After I tighten the timings abit and got failing core again, increased vDimm and tested for 12h, guess what, rock solid stable without even touching gtl refs. With my system, if anything is unstable it crashes/core fails within 49 minutes to 1 hour and 10 mins.

Cibic
03-14-2009, 03:17 PM
... i can run 2090mgz 8-7-6-21 1t, with 0 corruption. To me you have to enable p1 p2, you just lose way to much performance when is on auto ...

I was wondering, what does everest memory benchmark report on yours? I am curious, well more like comparative if that's alright with you.

neo mike
03-15-2009, 03:08 PM
You mean the score at 2090mgz ? i get 13,750.

ozgunkara
03-16-2009, 10:07 AM
hi cibic
i got the ocz RAM i mentioned and everything is running on stock settings right now. which settings would you recommend for RAM and CPU for 1600 mhz fsb? I updated the list for you. I look forward for your help.
P.S. i also want to ask if the cooling would be a problem. i used to water cool my ram,cpu,nb, hard discs. Right now i water cool cpu,nb,hard discs. I left the original heatsinks on the RAM for cooling. Do you think that my ram would overheat as i use them at 1600mhz?

PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = Hiper 780watt
CPU =intel Q6700
RAM = 2x 2gb OCZ Sli Ready 1800mhz RAM
HDD ( the one where you have your windows installation on ) = 2x Samsung hd250hj 250gb
VGA1 = Zotac GTX 285
VGA2 ( if you have ) = none
VGA3 ( if you have ) = none
SPU ( Sound Card ) = none
NorthBridge Cooling = stock, water
SouthBridge Cooling = stock
CPU Cooling = koolance cpu-340 water
RAM Cooling = none
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = 15.23
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = 182.04
Sound Card Drivers Version = none
BIOS version 1202 REQUIRED 1202

BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = auto
CPU Multiplier = 10.0
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = auto
FSB - Memory Ratio = auto
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1066.7
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1777.8
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = auto
SLI-Ready Memory = CpuOC 0%

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = auto
P2 = auto
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = auto 8
tRCD = auto 8
tRP = auto 8
tRAS = auto 27
Command Per Clock (CMD) = auto 2T
tRRD = auto 7
tRC = auto 32
tWR = auto 12
tWTR = auto 19
tFAW = auto 33
tRD = auto 10
tRTP = auto 7
tRFC = auto 98
tREF = auto 7.8uS

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = auto 1.31
Loadline Calibration = disabled
CPU PLL Voltage = auto 1.52
CPU VTT Voltage = auto 1.23
Memory Voltage = auto 1.88
NB Core Voltage = auto 1.45
SB Core Voltage = auto 1.48
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = auto

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = auto
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Enabled
Execute Disable Bit = Enabled
Virtualization Technology = Enabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Enabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled
CPU Core 4 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled

Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled

Cibic
03-17-2009, 06:17 PM
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = Hiper 780watt
CPU = Intel Q6700
RAM = 2x 2gb OCZ Sli Ready 1800mhz RAM
HDD = 2x Samsung hd250hj 250gb
VGA1 = Zotac GTX 285
SPU ( Sound Card ) = none
NorthBridge Cooling = stock, water
SouthBridge Cooling = stock
CPU Cooling = koolance cpu-340 water
RAM Cooling = none
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = 15.23
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = 182.04
Sound Card Drivers Version = none
BIOS version 1202 REQUIRED 1202

BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 9
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Sync Mode
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1600
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1600
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = 200
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Enabled
P2 = Enabled
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 7
tRCD = 7
tRP = 7
tRAS = 24
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 2T
tRRD = auto
tRC = auto
tWR = auto
tWTR = auto
tFAW = auto
tRD = auto
tRTP = auto
tRFC = auto
tREF = auto

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = Actual 1.42 (in hardware monitor)
Loadline Calibration = Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.54
CPU VTT Voltage = 1.4
Memory Voltage = 1.88
NB Core Voltage = 1.48
SB Core Voltage = 1.5
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = +56
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = +52
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = +52
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = +56
NB GTL REF Ratio = auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = auto
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Enabled
Virtualization Technology = Enabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 = Enabled
CPU Core 4 = Enabled

Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled

The ram will be fine, but if you decide to overclock it some airflow would do the trick. I have some settings in mind that require better ram cooling, you will still run it at 1800MHz but with tighter timings. With 1800FSB and 9x multi that means that your cpu will be running at 4GHz which will require 1.55v at least.
These settings are quite relaxed and should be stable. Make sure you pass at least 4h prime95 blend then post your results.

EDIT: Would really help if you told me your VID in coretemp, without running any other monitoring/overclocking programs in the background.

Cibic
03-17-2009, 08:33 PM
You mean the score at 2090mgz ? i get 13,750.

Wow, I never thought 1T would make such a difference. With 8-8-8-28-2T, tRC: 38, tWR:10, tRFC:80 can do 2045MHz at 1.98v which is quite high for my taste. I got more write performance at 11,857 MB/s than read.

ozgunkara
03-18-2009, 01:05 PM
hi cibic
when I tried to set the settings you told me I could not post. i tried to clear cmos but i still can't post. the lcd poster says cpu init all the time.

ozgunkara
03-18-2009, 01:34 PM
hi
I managed to clear cmos in the end it boots with the auto settings right now but it can't post with your settings. What do you think is the problem that the cpu does not accept overclocking?
I also don't understand what VID is, as you mentioned last time :D

Cibic
03-18-2009, 04:37 PM
CPU init means it needs more voltage. VID is the minimum voltage your cpu needs to run at stock frequencies but most of the times it can go lower than that. VID is reported in the program I mentioned a few posts ago. I am guessing that your cpu is 1.3v VID. My q6600 can do 3.6GHz at 1.42v but its VID is 1.26. Increase cpu voltage along with vVTT (they should be about the same) until you can boot, it will need a bit more than that to pass prime95 small fft's though.

neo mike
03-18-2009, 09:17 PM
Wow, I never thought 1T would make such a difference. With 8-8-8-28-2T, tRC: 38, tWR:10, tRFC:80 can do 2045MHz at 1.98v which is quite high for my taste. I got more write performance at 11,857 MB/s than read.

My friend thats because you dont have P1 P2 enabled, it makes a huge difference.

Cibic
03-19-2009, 03:52 AM
I mentioned they are enabled after bios upgrade to 1202, i think.

neo mike
03-19-2009, 05:37 PM
I mentioned they are enabled after bios upgrade to 1202, i think.

You should check, cause thats a low score for that speed, i get 12,940 with 2000mgz cas 8, processor at 4.0

Cibic
03-19-2009, 06:54 PM
I mean they are enabled. It has got to be 1T, what tRC and tWR are you running? I would appreciate if you could set Command Rate at 2T and post your result.

neo mike
03-19-2009, 08:00 PM
I mean they are enabled. It has got to be 1T, what tRC and tWR are you running? I would appreciate if you could set Command Rate at 2T and post your result.

Im running 39 trc, 1t only gives you about 200-300 points more. Twr 10, trfc 78. Your not running you processor at 4.0 ? that could be the difference.

Cibic
03-20-2009, 06:15 AM
I'm running it at 4050 and ram at 2025 at the moment. Can't go more because I'm already at 1.6vCore. Besides, mine's quad with 8mb cache, it should do better though its an early quad model.

EDIT: I tried 1T, got loads of corruptions but I actually made it through the benchmark before it BSOD on me. Seems like OCZ or 2GB modules are more sensitive to 1T, I managed to do 13,210 MB/s write and 13,002 read.

ozgunkara
03-22-2009, 12:09 PM
Hi Cibic
i tried what you recommended and it mostly got stuck at "en setup". I tried to increase voltage like you mentioned and was able to see the boot screen of windows but i never managed to see my desktop. I guess my Cpu is not good at overclock or I am just bad at it :D.

Cibic
03-22-2009, 04:45 PM
Freezing or crashing? VID would still be helpful on this stage, can show us what we are up against.
Starts, set vNB to 1.54, PLL at 1.56, memory at 1.9 and let me know whats your top vCore and vVTT so far. You can try raising vCore and vVTT even more if your temps are fine.

Skanderbeg68
07-03-2009, 02:11 AM
Hi All! I can finally post my problem on this super help page! Here is my template...

Required System Specifications
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = Epsilon FX700-GLN 700watt
CPU = Intel Core2Quad CPU Q9550 2.83ghz
RAM = 2Gb Corsair XMS3 CM3X2G1333C9 DDR3 SDRAM 1333 Mhz
HDD ( the one where you have your windows installation on ) = Seagate Barracuda 500Gb 7200.11
VGA1 = Asus ENGTX260 896Mb DDR3
VGA2 ( if you have ) = no
VGA3 ( if you have ) = no
SPU ( Sound Card ) = Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2 Value
NorthBridge Cooling = none
SouthBridge Cooling = none
CPU Cooling = none (I have Enermax Chakra Case with 24cm Cooling Fan)
RAM Cooling = none
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = 15.25
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = 186.18
Sound Card Drivers Version = 6.0.1.1370
BIOS version 0801 REQUIRED (I have 1104 version)

BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Auto
CPU Multiplier = 8.5
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Auto
FSB - Memory Ratio = Auto
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333
MEM (DDR) MHz = Auto (1333.3)
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = Auto
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Auto
P2 = Auto
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = Auto (9)
tRCD = Auto (9)
tRP = Auto (9)
tRAS = Auto (24)
Command Per Clock (CMD) = (Auto) 1T
tRRD = Auto (5)
tRC = Auto (34)
tWR = Auto (12)
tWTR = Auto (16)
tFAW = Auto (26)
tRD = Auto (11)
tRTP = Auto (5)
tRFC = Auto (74)
tREF = Auto (7.8uS)

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = Auto
Loadline Calibration = Disabled
CPU PLL Voltage = Auto
CPU VTT Voltage = Auto
Memory Voltage = Auto
NB Core Voltage = Auto
SB Core Voltage = Auto
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = Auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = Auto

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Auto
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Enabled
Virtualization Technology = Enabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Enabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled
CPU Core 4 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled

Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Auto
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Auto
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Auto

Problem Description
I have a random freeze problem Just when I play games with high-end graphics ( Crysis, ARMA II, etc.).
Sometimes it happens after 10 min of play, other times it happens after 2-3h of play. I also tried to play with low details-medium details but nothing has changed. I've noticed that sometimes after freezing it's possible to hear a continuous sound from speakers. It's not important for me to overclock. So we can try to solve the problem without overclocking. Thanks all for the help! Bye!

hitrateOC
07-03-2009, 11:34 AM
Required System Specifications
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = ABS TAGAN BZSeries (1300W)
CPU = Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650
RAM = Corsair Twin3X2048-1333C9 (9-9-9-24 1.6v ver 1.1)
HDD= WD Raptor 10krpm( 150GB, SATA II )
VGA1 = BFG GeForce 9800GX2 1024MB
VGA2 ( if you have ) =
VGA3 ( if you have ) =
SPU ( Sound Card ) = Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Extreme Gamer
NorthBridge Cooling = Water Cooled (2 fans on copper shrouds)
SouthBridge Cooling = Stock cooler with a fan above it blowing towards the SB
CPU Cooling = Water Cooled
RAM Cooling = High cmf fan blowing right on the ram
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = nVIDIA nFORCE Drivers v15.25
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = nVIDIA ForceWare v186
Sound Card Drivers Version = Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Drivers WebUpdate
BIOS version 0801 REQUIRED, Actual 1104

BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 9
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Synch
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1333
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = 200.0MHz
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Auto
P2 = Auto
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 99
tRCD = 9
tRP = 9
tRAS = 24
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 1T
tRRD = 5
tRC = 34
tWR = 12
tWTR = 16
tFAW = 26
tRD = 11
tRTP = 5
tRFC = 60
tREF = 7.8us

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = 1.21250V (1.24v actual)
Loadline Calibration = Disabled
CPU PLL Voltage = Auto
CPU VTT Voltage = Auto
Memory Voltage = 1.54V (1.60v actual)
NB Core Voltage = Auto
SB Core Voltage = Auto
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = Auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = Auto

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Auto
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Enabled
CPU C State Capability = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Enabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 = Enabled
CPU Core 4 = Enabled

Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled


Issues:
Freezing video and looping audio when playing games, and sometimes while surfing the web. I am just trying to get this thing stable at stock, no over clocking and cannot.. I get maybe an hour if lucky of playing before a freeze up. Even just setting the memory timings, bus, and voltage and leaving all else auto still causes it. no issues posting or in memtest..

Please help:)

Cibic
07-03-2009, 05:41 PM
Hi there, you can start by making sure your NB and ram are not overheating, the NB can still get hot if you don't change its paste to ceramic at least.
Follow these steps:
Increase mem voltage to 1.56v and NB to 1.48v. If that doesn't work then try increasing them even more but but i don't recommend exceeding 1.62v on mem and 1.54v on vNB for 1333 FSB and no OC.
If the problem persists then set P1 & P2 to disabled and Command Rate (CMD) to 2T, at this point you can decrease mem and NB voltages.

hitrateOC
07-03-2009, 07:40 PM
NB only appears to be running at max 60c (that is the MCP reading?) as for ram, it is rated at 1333 and i have a high cmf fan right on it. Also the sticker does say 1.6v and I am running it at bios setting 1.54, or 1.6v actual from the hardware monitor.

How can i see the ram tempeture? as well, the spd on the ram has all 1.5v settings, but even setting the bios to 1.5, the actual is like 1.58v minimum....

Thanks

Cibic
07-04-2009, 03:54 AM
NB only appears to be running at max 60c (that is the MCP reading?) as for ram, it is rated at 1333 and i have a high cmf fan right on it. Also the sticker does say 1.6v and I am running it at bios setting 1.54, or 1.6v actual from the hardware monitor.

How can i see the ram tempeture? as well, the spd on the ram has all 1.5v settings, but even setting the bios to 1.5, the actual is like 1.58v minimum....

Thanks
Your ram temp should be fine with airflow but if you want to check anyway, use your finger but with the back skin (near your nail which is more sensitive to temperature) and if you can hold it there for 10 seconds while on load then it should be fine.

Isn't that the max your mem voltage goes? We need the average values which in my experience is -/+ 0.02v-0.03v from what your set in bios. The problem with the ram is that you need to compensate for voltage loss that happens no matter what and on load it decreases even more.

hitrateOC
07-05-2009, 12:57 PM
Your ram temp should be fine with airflow but if you want to check anyway, use your finger but with the back skin (near your nail which is more sensitive to temperature) and if you can hold it there for 10 seconds while on load then it should be fine.

Isn't that the max your mem voltage goes? We need the average values which in my experience is -/+ 0.02v-0.03v from what your set in bios. The problem with the ram is that you need to compensate for voltage loss that happens no matter what and on load it decreases even more.

I think i just need a new board, this one is just highly unstable.. Just changing the few settings that I showed in my bios, it still locks. I have now set the cpu on auto, hovering around 1.32v in the voltage monitor. Some people said that they set the same memory i have at 9-9-9-27 at 1.8v and that fixed there issue. I ran it at that and the thing ran for 2 hours before crash, and now it is back to 10 to 35 mins max before freez.

I ran memtest for 6 hours no issue with the NB setting you gave me and the above mem settings. I looped 3dmark06 advanced for 4 hours just on vid and cpu tests and no crashes. I then play a game and bam, it will crash consistently. I have never had this problem before. First system ever that has done this to me.

Any suggestions on a nice board to replace this one?

Cibic
07-06-2009, 07:08 AM
It could still be setting related or perhaps you need a newer bios version or both. You could tell me the exact settings you tried stating which are auto. But if you still want to get rid of this board I would go for msi x48 or p45 ddr3 mb.

hitrateOC
07-06-2009, 01:34 PM
It could still be setting related or perhaps you need a newer bios version or both. You could tell me the exact settings you tried stating which are auto. But if you still want to get rid of this board I would go for msi x48 or p45 ddr3 mb.

Well in my post above i did show all the auto settings. I made some more changes. Here is my new settings.

Required System Specifications
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = ABS TAGAN BZSeries (1300W)
CPU = Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650
RAM = Corsair Twin3X2048-1333C9 (9-9-9-24 1.6v ver 1.1)
HDD= WD Raptor 10krpm( 150GB, SATA II )
VGA1 = BFG GeForce 9800GX2 1024MB
VGA2 ( if you have ) =
VGA3 ( if you have ) =
SPU ( Sound Card ) = Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Extreme Gamer
NorthBridge Cooling = Water Cooled (2 fans on copper shrouds)
SouthBridge Cooling = Stock cooler with a fan above it blowing towards the SB
CPU Cooling = Water Cooled
RAM Cooling = High cmf fan blowing right on the ram
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = nVIDIA nFORCE Drivers v15.25
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = nVIDIA ForceWare v186
Sound Card Drivers Version = Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Drivers WebUpdate
BIOS version 0801 REQUIRED, Actual 1104

BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 9
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Synched
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1333
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = Auto
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Enabled (the 1104 bios only has auto and enabled)
P2 = Enabled (the 1104 bios only has auto and enabled)
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 9
tRCD = 9
tRP = 9
tRAS = 24
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 1T
tRRD = (Auto) 5
tRC = (Auto) 34
tWR = (Auto) 12
tWTR = (Auto) 16
tFAW = (Auto) 26
tRD = (Auto) 11
tRTP = (Auto) 5
tRFC = (Auto) 60
tREF = (Auto) 7.8us

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = Auto (1.32v actual)
Loadline Calibration = Disabled
CPU PLL Voltage = Auto
CPU VTT Voltage = Auto
Memory Voltage = 1.7v (1.78v actual)
NB Core Voltage = 1.40
SB Core Voltage = 1.50
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = Auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Auto
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
CPU C State Capability = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Enabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 = Enabled
CPU Core 4 = Enabled

Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Auto
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Auto
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled


I did not get a single crash with theses settings during the 2 hours or so i played WoW and Counter Strike. However I am getting weird popping on my sound card Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Extreme Gamer, especially when using voice chat. I am also seeing stages in the game where is wants to freeze, like momentary suturing here and there but it kept recovering. I am also occasionaly seeing a usb error that blue screens some times, or say when i go into the bios the keyboard won't work.

So I am still not sure..

and Thanks for your input Cibic, i appreciate it...

Cibic
07-06-2009, 02:01 PM
Hm, you are either closer to stable or lucky. Try to lower mem voltage to 1.65v actual average and vNB to 1.5v actual.
DDR3 is quite sensitive to voltage. Even with adequate cooling, modules can still get damaged.

Memtest is not enough, once you can prime95 blend for 8 hours then you can say that you are stable.

Also set all your Spread Spectrums to disabled; it might help. Note that you can enable Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech since you are on stock cpu frequency.

Sorry I forgot that on P1&P2 the only options available are those.

Glad that I can help :up:

hitrateOC
07-06-2009, 03:46 PM
I will try your suggestions and see what happens. However I initially have the mem set at 1.6v (1.68 measured) with NB set on auto and the thing still got the crashes every 35 minutes..

The thing for me is that I was just trying to get this thing running stock for a few weeks before i started over clocking. I assumed that out of the box with just setting the mem frequency and the 9-9-9-24 at 1.6v (sticker), that the box would do this, so all the rest of this stuff is new to me. On all my other Asus boards, i was able to run stock out of the box no issues, then play from their by reading boards. The thing that is really getting to me is the soundblaster issues, which in my mind is some kind of board issue, but maybe its my NB or SB voltage?

So needless to say i am a bit confused.. I am thinking about going and picking up a set of crucial balisiex 1333 or 1600 memory and seeing if my memory is just already blown. Any suggestions on setting for clearing the cmos and adding this new memory as a start? any recommendations on which mem to get? Also is there a way to find the default recommended vcore for a cpu? my Q9660 is default auto to 1.32v average, but i see people clocking Q9770 to 4Ghz with a vcore of 1.29V... I am wondering if the system is just pumping to much voltage for the stock settings..

I eventually want to run my Q9650 at 3.6Ghz to maybe 3.8 or 4GHz...

Thanks..

Cibic
07-07-2009, 04:27 AM
The thing that is really getting to me is the soundblaster issues, which in my mind is some kind of board issue, but maybe its my NB or SB voltage

Are you having issues with Supreme FX too? The popping could be from improper grounding, power surges etc. It can be fixed with power surge protector i'm guessing.



So needless to say i am a bit confused.. I am thinking about going and picking up a set of crucial balisiex 1333 or 1600 memory and seeing if my memory is just already blown.

You could try another set of sticks at 1333 or more (but keeping speed at 1333 with your FSB), everything at stock and more than stock voltage then prime95 blending again.



Any suggestions on setting for clearing the cmos and adding this new memory as a start?

There's a button on AS2E which resets CMOS, it works better than taking the small battery out. To reset cmos there's instructions on the MB manual.



any recommendations on which mem to get?

I had in mind that corsair works better with this board, I experienced similar issues with OCZ. You should decide first whats your overclocking goal, in my opinion you need more memory speed than your FSB (1:2). For instance, if your goal is 4GHz with 9x multi which is 1777FSB then you need your ram to run at least 1800MHz which I think will need more than stock voltage to run (with a quad core, with this board, with OCZ and with 2x2GB modules).



Also is there a way to find the default recommended vcore for a cpu? my Q9660 is default auto to 1.32v average, but i see people clocking Q9770 to 4Ghz with a vcore of 1.29V... I am wondering if the system is just pumping to much voltage for the stock settings..


You can find what is your cpu's VID from CoreTemp. VID is the voltage your CPU needs at full load to operate, theoretically that is; but I have seen cpus running at VID then dropping even more on load, sustaining operation. To be sure you won't have any problems set your vCore to whatever your cpu's VID (actual) + 0.04v-0.05v which this board drops on full load without LLC (=Loadline Calibration).
By the way, there is no Q9770 there's only qx9770 that has unlocked multiplier which is a different story, it is better if you get your examples from cpu's of the same model and even better with the same stepping and VID.

hitrateOC
07-07-2009, 01:27 PM
Thanks once again.. After days of reading, and your advice I am starting to get a good feel for what i need to do to get this board stable. I have downloaded prime95 and will make the changes and test with my current configuration. I see from alot of boards that Vtt has a major affect on this board. i will start base, test and make one change at a time.

The grounding issue you mention is something i am going to look at, and might be the base of the whole issue, thanks for that tip. My ABS 1300w actually has a grounding cable, it would not even turn on until it screwed it to my case. But my case is all aluminum and i wonder if that is causing grounding issues. The plate that my mobo sits on is actually metal and I think i will ground the power supply to the plate bracket instead of the chassis. I actually screwed it to the chasis with a screw that holds my cdrom in place, maybe this is not right.

Thanks for all your help... I will not start the proper build and testing.

Cibic
07-07-2009, 04:24 PM
If your tower turns on then its properly grounded, your problem is probably power surges. A friend of mine had popping sounds issue every day from the his on-board sound card which I found 2 solutions for it. The one I mentioned before which can easily be fixed with the surge protector (I noticed that the popping sound came when the air condition unit changed modes/fan speeds) and the other by getting an amplifier (i actually got that by installing my logitech z-5300 sound system that has an amplifier on its sub woofer which eliminated the problem without the power surge protector).
Sorry to disappoint you but I found no instabilities with my friend's pc at the time he had the issue.

hitrateOC
07-10-2009, 10:22 AM
Hey,

So I checked the ground and it was not making great contact, i moved it to the plate, played some CSS and alot of the background hum and pop was gone, but not perfect... I then went to play some WoW, got in our 25 man ulduar raid and with in 3 minutes when the action started, bam.. Major crash. I wanted to break the thing.

I went back into the bios and made some changes:

Vdimm=1.54 volts (1.6 measured, this was my orignal setting, memtest pass, but still had crashes)
Vcore=1.35 volts (1.36 measured, intel says this is max for this chip?)
Vtt=1.30 volts (1.32 measured, was auto at 1.12v)
NB=1.40
SB=1.50

disabled the spread spectrum. One thing to note, is before i changed the ground, Vcore at 1.24 volts (bois setting) actually measured 1.32Volts actual. This time the bios setting actually measured super close. I ran prime95 11+ hours not a single crash.. Ran a 25 man raid last night and not a single crash..

I suspect like many others have noted ,is that Vtt is extremly important on this board, especially for quad cores and the auto setting is just not right at all, at least for my board. My guess at this point is that I could drop the Vcore a bit lower to get the temps down, so going to test that. At 1.36Volts, the temps never got above 55c and pretty much just hovered around 50c on all 4 cores, MCP at around 58c average.

Cibic
07-11-2009, 08:06 AM
Try following my previous posts, I only mention changing vCore because this board overvolts the cpu even on stock (follow VID hint). You can leave vtt on auto if you pass small fft's for at least 4h.
If you are having trouble with vcore just leave it to auto for the time being. Remember to increase your NB votlage to 1.48 (1.5v actual) for now then try prime95 blend, if it crashes then increase vdimm until you pass 8h.

Meezus
07-13-2009, 04:26 AM
Hello Guys,

I've had this board and my machinef or 7 months so far, you can imagine how frustrated I am to get it stable. I have been looking online non stop and finally found this forum - I hope not too late though.

My specs:


Required System Specifications
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = Epsilon 1010W
CPU = Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 @ 2,83 GHZ (Stepping A rev E0)
RAM = 4 x 1GB TWINMOS DDR3 1333 PC10600
HDD ( the one where you have your windows installation on ) = Maxtor 500GB 7200 RPM (x 2 on a RAID configuration)
VGA1 = MSO GeForce 280 GTX 1GB
VGA2 ( if you have ) = n/a
VGA3 ( if you have ) =n/a
SPU ( Sound Card ) = Built in
NorthBridge Cooling = stock
SouthBridge Cooling = stock
CPU Cooling = stock
RAM Cooling = stock
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = 15.25
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = 185.85
BIOS version 0801 REQUIRED = (I have 1104)

BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 8.5
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = auto
FSB - Memory Ratio = auto
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333
MEM (DDR) MHz = auto
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = auto
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Auto
P2 = Auto
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 8
tRCD = 9
tRP = 9
tRAS = 25
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 2T
tRRD = 4
tRC = 33
tWR = 12
tWTR = 16
tFAW = 21
tRD = 10
tRTP = 5
tRFC = 60
tREF = 7.8us

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = auto
Loadline Calibration = Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage = auto
CPU VTT Voltage = auto
Memory Voltage = 1.5v
NB Core Voltage = 1.5v
SB Core Voltage = 1.6v
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = auto

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Enabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled
CPU Core 4 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled

Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled
Problem Description

The usual lockups and freezes. It does not happen at a consistent rate, someties I run the machine for days with no trouble, other times it freezes / autoreboots 5 times a day. I browse the web most of the time and thats when it hits me. For games they do lockup / freeze as well but depends on the game. Because i have been reading a lot you can see that I have already upped my NB and SB voltages. I have also used CPU-Z to get readings for my RAM memory tables (the damn thing does not have anything online) and I have set those manual accordingly (1.5v, then speeds as shown above).

Recently I have changed CMD to 2T instead of 1T and that seemed to have stabilized the machine a bit more. I've been using it for a couple of days now with only 1 autoreboot incident (while browsing).

Please Help guys. I have gone through the 24 pages of this forum hoping to find a similar setup but with no luck. Apparently I made a wrong choice of RAM (recommended to me by the dumbass who sold me the board - compatibility claim).

Cheers.

Cibic
07-15-2009, 03:20 AM
Hi Meezus and welcome to XSF.

Your ram timings seem a bit off and some voltages need adjustment. Your ram is CL9 by the way, I don't think there's a problem with your ram, this board doesn't like a lot of ram dimms. Try these changes then prime95 blend for 8 hours:

BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 8.5
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Sync mode
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1333
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = 200.0
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Enabled
P2 = Enabled
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 9
tRCD = 9
tRP = 9
tRAS = 27
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 1T
Rest auto on this page

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = auto
Loadline Calibration = Disabled (you don't need this if you are not clocking)
CPU PLL Voltage = auto
CPU VTT Voltage = auto
Memory Voltage = 1.6v actual in hardware monitor/voltage monitor
NB Core Voltage = 1.5v
SB Core Voltage = 1.5v
Rest auto on this page

Good luck :up:

Meezus
07-15-2009, 04:36 AM
Good luck :up:

Hi Cibic,

Thanks a lot for the response mate. I will try these as soon as I go back home in about 4 hours. For my RAM settings, when its in auto mode on BIOS it picks up 8-8-8-24, you sure it is CL9?

I know they seem a bit off, but thats the timings table readings I got from CPU-Z, I was desperate you know and hence tried them. Funny enough is yesterday I installed Everest Ultimate; it detected my RAM as Eudra and not TWINMOS, and gave me complete different timings (again 8-8-8-24). All them software read my memory as 5, 6, 7 and 8 none listed 9.

Anyway if this works tonight, I am so buying you a gift :) Will update you.

Cheers.

Cibic
07-15-2009, 06:41 AM
This is your ram's web page:
http://www.twinmos.com/dram/dram_p_dt_ddr3_1333.html
One more thing, if it crashes/freezes again then check your NB temp asap then run memtest86+ for 10-12 loops.

Meezus
07-15-2009, 07:47 AM
This is your ram's web page:
http://www.twinmos.com/dram/dram_p_dt_ddr3_1333.html
One more thing, if it crashes/freezes again then check your NB temp asap then run memtest86+ for 10-12 loops.

Thanks Cibic, I did check that page but thought since the board is autodetecting at 8 then I should keep it so - dumb I know.

Anyway I've done the changes, machine looks fine so far, prime98 has been running for 1h15m so far and I am doing other things in the background. Will let you know in 7 hours ;)

Btw, I am on Vista64, Prime95 (64bit) has differnet testing modes, could not find "blend" so I ran the option which seemed would test everything with 4 workers of course.

Cheers.

Meezus
07-15-2009, 08:04 AM
This is your ram's web page:
http://www.twinmos.com/dram/dram_p_dt_ddr3_1333.html
One more thing, if it crashes/freezes again then check your NB temp asap then run memtest86+ for 10-12 loops.

Hi Cibic,

I have jinxed it :( after 1.5 hours i got the usual auto-reboot. My machine just auto rebooted on its own.

NB temp was 68.

I ran memtest already no errors at all.

:(

Cibic
07-15-2009, 12:01 PM
Your NB temp is quite high. Try to keep it under 65, bare in mind that it gets even hotter on full load and by the time it takes to get into bios and monitor the voltage it cools down a bit. Lower NB voltage to 1.44 and monitor temp in windows while on blend with HWMonitor http://www.cpuid.com/download/hwmonitor/HWMonitor64_114.zip

Meezus
07-18-2009, 08:19 PM
Your NB temp is quite high. Try to keep it under 65, bare in mind that it gets even hotter on full load and by the time it takes to get into bios and monitor the voltage it cools down a bit. Lower NB voltage to 1.44 and monitor temp in windows while on blend with HWMonitor http://www.cpuid.com/download/hwmonitor/HWMonitor64_114.zip

Hi Cibic,

Done that, I am still getting random auto-reboots.

It might be worth mentioning that I no longer have freezes though, only auto-reboots.

I am dying to find out what is causing these. I read some extreme articles on the web which suggests that i could be a wireless keyboard/mouse combo or even the "enable write behind caching" option for the RAID. It seemed a bit wierd though.

Any thoughts?

Cheers.

joebloggs
07-19-2009, 05:36 AM
@Meezus.

Try disabling Loadline Calibration. I had random restarts with Loadline Calibration Enabled. You might have to increase some voltages to compensate though, but you should be fine.

Meezus
07-19-2009, 07:45 AM
Try disabling Loadline Calibration.

Hi Joe,

Thanks for that. I've already done that (Cibic advised it too).

Can you be more specific about the voltages I need to increase please? Maybe that would solve the problem.

The machine is much more stable now with Cibic's guidance (thanks mate), but the auto restarts problem still bugs me like hell.

I am afraid to play games man...imagine all this trouble with just browsing.

Cheers.

Cibic
07-19-2009, 11:49 AM
Try setting P1 & P2 to auto also Command Rate (CMD) to auto as well. Are the auto reboots random?

Meezus
07-19-2009, 01:44 PM
Try setting P1 & P2 to auto also Command Rate (CMD) to auto as well. Are the auto reboots random?

Hi Cibic. Done both.

Yep random. Happens mostly while I am browsing. I have all different browsers and it happens with all: IE8, Chrome, FF3 and Safari3. So it is not browser related.

For example, it is almost guaranteed to reboot if i keep scrolling up and down for a while on this page:
http://www.instantshift.com/2009/02/22/140-brilliant-free-wordpress-themes-around/

I know coz today i was considering updating my blog theme and the machine auto rebooted on me 3 times.

Do you guys need me to give you any other BIOS settings? Can the issue be RAID / harddrives related?

Really thanks a lot for all your help.

Cheers.

Cibic
07-19-2009, 02:08 PM
Disable automatic restart on system failure and let me know the error code when it occurs again. With your current settings, what kind of torture testing have you done so far and for how long?

I doubt its raid/harddrive related issue.

slim142
07-19-2009, 02:39 PM
Meezus
Try leaving your Command Rate at 2T, SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = AUTO , FSB - Memory Clock Mode = unLinked, FSB - Memory Ratio = manual, SB voltage on 1.50.

Meezus
07-20-2009, 08:46 AM
Disable automatic restart on system failure and let me know the error code when it occurs again.


Meezus
Try leaving your Command Rate at 2T, SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = AUTO , FSB - Memory Clock Mode = unLinked, FSB - Memory Ratio = manual, SB voltage on 1.50.

@cibic: done. will let you know when it happens.

@Slim142: done the advised settings. will let you know the outcome.

Thanks again guys.

Meezus
07-20-2009, 09:10 AM
Hey Guys (Cibic & Slim):

Machine just auto-rebooted again, no error messages or blue screen despite that the auto reboot on failure option is disabled.

One more insight I have noticed: I leave my machine on 24/7. Not a single once in the 7 months I had it it rebooted or froze while I was away. It only happens while I am using it. Even when I stream content (I have divx connected, the device just streams but it uses the machine's CPU and VGA card to process the media) it never happened. It has to be me physically using it.

:(:confused:

slim142
07-20-2009, 09:32 AM
Hey Guys (Cibic & Slim):

Machine just auto-rebooted again, no error messages or blue screen despite that the auto reboot on failure option is disabled.

One more insight I have noticed: I leave my machine on 24/7. Not a single once in the 7 months I had it it rebooted or froze while I was away. It only happens while I am using it. Even when I stream content (I have divx connected, the device just streams but it uses the machine's CPU and VGA card to process the media) it never happened. It has to be me physically using it.

:(:confused:

That sounds like CPU inestability. Disable Loadline calibration and if it still reboots, put your CPU voltage to what your CPU BOX VID says (ex 1.16v, 1.25v etc)

Meezus
07-20-2009, 10:02 AM
That sounds like CPU inestability. Disable Loadline calibration and if it still reboots, put your CPU voltage to what your CPU BOX VID says (ex 1.16v, 1.25v etc)

It has a range: 9550 e0 specs are 0.85V – 1.3625V

CPU-Z reads it swinging between 1.280v and 1.296v

When I followed CIBIC's settings it was at around 1.25

It is set to Auto on BIOS btw.

I have most of the CPU stuff disabled following Benchwarmer settings. These specifically: (internal thermal control, limit CPUID maxval, C1E, speedstep).

What do you think?

slim142
07-20-2009, 11:03 AM
It has a range: 9550 e0 specs are 0.85V – 1.3625V

CPU-Z reads it swinging between 1.280v and 1.296v

When I followed CIBIC's settings it was at around 1.25

It is set to Auto on BIOS btw.

I have most of the CPU stuff disabled following Benchwarmer settings. These specifically: (internal thermal control, limit CPUID maxval, C1E, speedstep).

What do you think?

Maybe is spiking. The anandtech article about loadline calibration explained that even when loadline calibration gives more voltage than usual, it also spikes (down) for short periods of time. That was the cause of my problems some time ago.

Leave it on auto as it might work as necessary there.

Have you tried LinX?

Meezus
07-20-2009, 11:41 AM
Maybe is spiking. The anandtech article about loadline calibration explained that even when loadline calibration gives more voltage than usual, it also spikes (down) for short periods of time. That was the cause of my problems some time ago.

Leave it on auto as it might work as necessary there.

Have you tried LinX?

You mean leave the CPU at auto in BIOS? Loadline Calibration is disabled in the BIOS.

ummm..what is LinX? :shrug:

slim142
07-20-2009, 11:59 AM
You mean leave the CPU at auto in BIOS? Loadline Calibration is disabled in the BIOS.

ummm..what is LinX? :shrug:

Yes leave CPU voltage on AUTO

About LinX
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=201670&highlight=linx

Meezus
07-20-2009, 12:43 PM
Hi Guys,

Are these normal / do they shed any light?

http://www.mazenville.com/images/HWMON.jpg

HT 1.2V as at 1.5V ... isnt that a bit strange?

btw I've enabled loadline calibration again.

Cheers.

Meezus
07-21-2009, 10:02 AM
Hey Guys,

Here it is with Loadline Calibration disabled, SB and NB on auto.

http://www.mazenville.com/images/hwmon2.jpg

Hope this helps too.

Cheers.

Meezus
07-23-2009, 11:55 AM
Hey Guys,

I have reverted to CIBIC's settings with only one change: I left the ram timings at auto (which assigns them at 8). I only set the CMD to 2T.

Machine has been stable for a couple of day - no incidents yet.

Cheers.

dalejr
08-07-2009, 08:51 PM
Hi, Newby here.

I installed this Mobo and it constantly locks up when I try to play a video. I looked through this thread and decided to re-install my old Mobo. I would think that as much as this board costs, it should run correctly out of the box.

Does the Striker 2 extreme have an issue when running everything in auto/default settings? I paid good money for this board and if it requires tweeking just to run then I don't need the hassles.

I tried just about everything to get the system stable, I bought a new video card, new memory, new PSU, and a new quad core CPU. I will reinstall it one of these days and list the bios settings as specified in the thread.

My question is, is it going to require constant tweeking?

Thanks for any help or suggestions.

slim142
08-07-2009, 08:53 PM
If its a divx or avi or anything that requires codecs, then you need to make sure your system is 100% estable first or else it could be anything from the RAM to the drivers.

Cibic
08-08-2009, 08:14 AM
Hi, Newby here.

I installed this Mobo and it constantly locks up when I try to play a video. I looked through this thread and decided to re-install my old Mobo. I would think that as much as this board costs, it should run correctly out of the box.

Does the Striker 2 extreme have an issue when running everything in auto/default settings? I paid good money for this board and if it requires tweeking just to run then I don't need the hassles.

I tried just about everything to get the system stable, I bought a new video card, new memory, new PSU, and a new quad core CPU. I will reinstall it one of these days and list the bios settings as specified in the thread.

My question is, is it going to require constant tweeking?

Thanks for any help or suggestions.

If you are not planning on overclocking then it should be fairly easy to find stability. This board sucks on auto thus "out of the box". It might take a while but you will get there :up:

dalejr
08-09-2009, 09:51 PM
Thanks. I might install it again this week and give it another try. I really want to use the stuff, I just don't like having it lock up or re-boot on me.

It actually does those things whenever it seems that the video card is being taxed, tht's why i bought a newer card, but that didn't make any difference.

Oh well, thanks and I hope to get back here, if it lets me.

Cibic
08-14-2009, 08:43 AM
To ALL: New bios is out that improves stability of certain memory v1203 direct link from asus http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Striker_II_Extreme/1203.zip

eXecelo
08-14-2009, 12:48 PM
Required System Specifications
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = Thermaltake 750w Sli Improved PSU
CPU = Intel q6600 (trying to stable it @ 3.6 ghz)
RAM = Ocz Platinum 1600 mhz 7-7-7-24 (1.9v- says in the bx ^^) by the way 2g 2x1gb.
HDD ( the one where you have your windows installation on ) = 2x250 western digital in raid 0
VGA1 = xfx 9800 gx2 black edition
SPU ( Sound Card ) = supreme fx ( comes with the mobo as you all know )
NorthBridge Cooling = Massive 25cm fan on the side of the case and one 25 cm fan on the front, the two of them in taking.
SouthBridge Cooling = Massive 25cm fan on the side of the case and one 25 cm fan on the front, the two of them in taking.
CPU Cooling = Zalman 9700
RAM Cooling = Massive 25cm fan on the side of the case and one 25 cm fan on the front, the two of them in taking.
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = Dunno :S
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = 190.38
Sound Card Drivers Version = soundmax black hawk
BIOS version 1104 REQUIRED

BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 9x
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Sync mode
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1600 mhz
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1600 mhz
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = 200
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = enabled
P2 = enabled
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 7
tRCD = 7
tRP = 7
tRAS = 24
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 2t
tRRD = auto
tRC = auto
tWR = auto
tWTR = auto
tFAW = auto
tRD = auto
tRTP = auto
tRFC = auto
tREF = auto

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = 1.5v for a real 1.54v F*** over voltage
Loadline Calibration = Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.66
CPU VTT Voltage = 1.58
Memory Voltage = 1.9
NB Core Voltage = 1.66
SB Core Voltage = 1.50
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio =auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio =auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio =auto
NB GTL REF Ratio =auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt =auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt =auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt =auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt =auto

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = enabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled
CPU Core 4 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled

Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled

Problem Description
Lockup and freeze during games. Take a look at the rig the description is not well done so dont mind it says q6600 @ 3.8 ghz my mistake ^^ www.youtube.com/mrkakashii


Regards


P.S: Cibic in what page are your settings?

Cibic
08-14-2009, 11:55 PM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3488757&postcount=280
Here it its, here are some settings for you:

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = enabled
P2 = enabled
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 7
tRCD = 7
tRP = 7
tRAS = 24
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 1T but if you have any sort of visual corruption or windows doesn't boot, set it back on 2T. if it works fine on boot then stress test blend prime95 for an hour and it should be ok
tRRD = auto
tRC = auto
tWR = auto
tWTR = auto
tFAW = auto
tRD = auto
tRTP = auto
tRFC = auto
tREF = auto

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = If your q6600 is G0 stepping and VID 1.26 (coretemp) then you should only need 1.45v (actual in hardware monitor), if its a B3 then you could need 1.5 actual
Loadline Calibration = Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.58
CPU VTT Voltage = 1.44 (keep this the same as vcore)
Memory Voltage = start with 1.95 (actual, increase if you still have freezing issues)
NB Core Voltage = 1.54
SB Core Voltage = 1.50
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = +56
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = +52
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = +52
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = +56
NB GTL REF Ratio =auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt =auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt =auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt =auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt =auto

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Enabled

Good luck!

eXecelo
08-15-2009, 12:23 PM
Cibic windows loads but then it shows me the blue screen of death
machine_check_exception
Page_fault_in_none_paged_area

Regards

j_azonic69
08-16-2009, 03:10 AM
Hey guys, hope I haven't come too late to get some help.

I got this mobo in Dec 2008 and had the usual freeze/crash problems.

Mostly while watching something, but sometimes while playing games. Anyway, after messing about in Bios a bit, I got lucky.

All I changed was:

Mem voltage: 1.86v
NB Voltage: 1.40v
SB Core Vol: 1.55v

The rest, except stuff like disabling onboard sound and the like, was completely default.

Just like that it went on to be perfectly stable for about 6 months.

Then in the last few weeks it's started doing it all over again, despite nothing being changed in bios.

My specs:

Nvidia 896MB XFX GTX 260, PCI-E 2.0, 2000M,
Asus Striker II Extreme, NF790i,
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550, Yorkfield
(2x2GB) CorsairTwinX XMS3, DDR3 1
99850W NorthQ Black Magic Flex

Help :(

edited to say, I don't bother with overclocking anymore, i'm just looking for stability at default speeds.

BenchZowner
08-16-2009, 08:56 AM
Can't believe you guys are still using this... let me phrase this politely... crop!

Teslawave
08-16-2009, 01:19 PM
Hi great thread, here are my specs:

Some settings as you can see are displayed in red color, YOU NEED to SET those values EXACTLY like I have


Required System Specifications
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = PC Power & Colling Silencer 750W
CPU = Intel Core 2 Extreme Quad QX9650
RAM = Corsair DDr3 DHX - 1600 4GB Kit X 2 (TW3X4G1600C9DHX)
HDD ( the one where you have your windows installation on ) = Seagate Barracuda ES.2 1000GB (ST31000340NS)
VGA1 = BFG GeForce 9800GTX+
VGA2 ( if you have ) = BFG GeForce 9800GTX+
VGA3 ( if you have ) =
SPU ( Sound Card ) = Stock SupremeFX II
NorthBridge Cooling = Default
SouthBridge Cooling = Default
CPU Cooling = Stock CPU Fan
RAM Cooling = None
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = v15.25
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = v190.38
Sound Card Drivers Version =
BIOS version 0801 REQUIRED

BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 9.5
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Unlinked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Auto
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1600
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = Auto
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Auto
P2 = Auto
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = Auto (9)
tRCD = Auto (9)
tRP = Auto (9)
tRAS = Auto (24)
Command Per Clock (CMD) = Auto (1T)
tRRD = Auto (5)
tRC = Auto (34)
tWR = Auto (12)
tWTR = Auto (16)
tFAW = Auto (26)
tRD = Auto (11)
tRTP = Auto (5)
tRFC = Auto (74)
tREF = Auto (7.8 uS)

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = Auto (1.26V)
Loadline Calibration = Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage = Auto (1.50V)
CPU VTT Voltage = Auto (1.10V)
Memory Voltage = 1.80V
NB Core Voltage = Auto (1.29V)
SB Core Voltage = Auto (1.45V)
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = Auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = Auto

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Enabled
Execute Disable Bit =
Virtualization Technology = Enabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Enabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled
CPU Core 4 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled

Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Auto
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Auto
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Auto

Problem Description
My computer stalls when streaming videos, playing online games, or when i use uTorrent. sometimes it
will stall for no reason at all, when im not even doing anything. If there is sound playing when it stalls
I get this continuos repetitition of whatever the last noise was. Also every so often when i restart the
pc, it will stop when the LCD poster shows "Det DRAM" and i'll have to restart for it to work. I've run
memtest and it always shows no problems, getting very frustrated.
note: I've set the memory voltage to 1.80V, and also saw that the memory clock mode was on auto,
and i set it to unlinked and set the memory frequency to 1600mhz as this is the factory default, and
have seen a major decrease in stalling, but it still does stall often enough for it to be a nuisance.

slim142
08-16-2009, 04:50 PM
Can't believe you guys are still using this... let me phrase this politely... crop!

Did you even bother to tell everyone that you are not helping anybody at all anymore? Maybe you will have enough time to edit your first post now that you dont help anybody.

Guess its time to change display picture too...

Cibic
08-16-2009, 06:50 PM
Cibic windows loads but then it shows me the blue screen of death
machine_check_exception
Page_fault_in_none_paged_area

Regards

Follow my instructions, something's wrong with ur ram settings. Set CMD to 2T and increase ram voltage if needed.

Cibic
08-16-2009, 06:54 PM
Hi great thread, here are my specs:

Some settings as you can see are displayed in red color, YOU NEED to SET those values EXACTLY like I have


Required System Specifications
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = PC Power & Colling Silencer 750W
CPU = Intel Core 2 Extreme Quad QX9650
RAM = Corsair DDr3 DHX - 1600 4GB Kit X 2 (TW3X4G1600C9DHX)
HDD ( the one where you have your windows installation on ) = Seagate Barracuda ES.2 1000GB (ST31000340NS)
VGA1 = BFG GeForce 9800GTX+
VGA2 ( if you have ) = BFG GeForce 9800GTX+
VGA3 ( if you have ) =
SPU ( Sound Card ) = Stock SupremeFX II
NorthBridge Cooling = Default
SouthBridge Cooling = Default
CPU Cooling = Stock CPU Fan
RAM Cooling = None
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = v15.25
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = v190.38
Sound Card Drivers Version =
BIOS version 0801 REQUIRED

BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 9.5
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Unlinked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Auto
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1600
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = Auto
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Auto
P2 = Auto
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = Auto (9)
tRCD = Auto (9)
tRP = Auto (9)
tRAS = Auto (24)
Command Per Clock (CMD) = Auto (1T)
tRRD = Auto (5)
tRC = Auto (34)
tWR = Auto (12)
tWTR = Auto (16)
tFAW = Auto (26)
tRD = Auto (11)
tRTP = Auto (5)
tRFC = Auto (74)
tREF = Auto (7.8 uS)

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = Auto (1.26V)
Loadline Calibration = Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage = Auto (1.50V)
CPU VTT Voltage = Auto (1.10V)
Memory Voltage = 1.80V
NB Core Voltage = Auto (1.29V)
SB Core Voltage = Auto (1.45V)
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = Auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = Auto

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Enabled
Execute Disable Bit =
Virtualization Technology = Enabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Enabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled
CPU Core 4 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled

Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Auto
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Auto
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Auto

Problem Description
My computer stalls when streaming videos, playing online games, or when i use uTorrent. sometimes it
will stall for no reason at all, when im not even doing anything. If there is sound playing when it stalls
I get this continuos repetitition of whatever the last noise was. Also every so often when i restart the
pc, it will stop when the LCD poster shows "Det DRAM" and i'll have to restart for it to work. I've run
memtest and it always shows no problems, getting very frustrated.
note: I've set the memory voltage to 1.80V, and also saw that the memory clock mode was on auto,
and i set it to unlinked and set the memory frequency to 1600mhz as this is the factory default, and
have seen a major decrease in stalling, but it still does stall often enough for it to be a nuisance.

Ur system's unstable, if not now then later.

BenchZowner
08-17-2009, 01:46 AM
Did you even bother to tell everyone that you are not helping anybody at all anymore?

I did some pages ago...


Maybe you will have enough time to edit your first post now that you dont help anybody.

Although I don't get the way you expressed it, I did.


Guess its time to change display picture too...

Why, what's wrong with it ?

slim142
08-17-2009, 09:08 AM
I did some pages ago...

Although I don't get the way you expressed it, I did.

Why, what's wrong with it ?

I still think you need to do so in the first page. Have you seen how many people with 0 posts come here with hopes of getting working system? (check above)

About the pic, there is nothing wrong with it, but with your expression on #611, it seems that you dont really want to know anything about this board anymore. Why not change it?

Dont get me wrong, but your post also made the board sound really old.

BenchZowner
08-17-2009, 10:25 AM
I still think you need to do so in the first page. Have you seen how many people with 0 posts come here with hopes of getting working system? (check above)

About the pic, there is nothing wrong with it, but with your expression on #611, it seems that you dont really want to know anything about this board anymore. Why not change it?

Dont get me wrong, but your post also made the board sound really old.

1) First post edited... already.

2) The avatar is about overclocking not board specific ( lol you're paying too much attention to the avatar :p: )

3) The board ( Striker II Extreme ) is old and well... not a good board.

slim142
08-17-2009, 12:21 PM
1) First post edited... already.

2) The avatar is about overclocking not board specific ( lol you're paying too much attention to the avatar :p: )

3) The board ( Striker II Extreme ) is old and well... not a good board.

You are the only person with a S2E board on his display picture on the forums :rolleyes:

Old? The board is not even 2 years old S2E Announcement (http://usa.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=10586)

And yes, well even with all those problems, it has been working for me :cool:

BenchZowner
08-17-2009, 02:07 PM
You are the only person with a S2E board on his display picture on the forums :rolleyes:

Don't give me the rolleyes... :rolleyes:

New avatar, satisfied now ?
At least that's a decent board ( user points if you find out which one it is )


Old? The board is not even 2 years old S2E Announcement (http://usa.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=10586)

1 1/2 year is more than enough to consider a motherboard old.
Especially when we're 2 sockets ahead now, and moving on to the 3rd CPU gen since its launch.


And yes, well even with all those problems, it has been working for me :cool:

Yes, it can work good, sometimes that's not possible without changing a hardware ( RAM most of the times, or VGA ), very few times hassle-free, but the working fine / not working fine ratio is... very very bad for this board.

Proof ? Check out how many people posted in this thread.

Leeghoofd
08-17-2009, 02:14 PM
Peee fiiiivvveeee keeeeeeeeee thrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee deluxe aka Bill's destroys a QX9650 board

slim142
08-17-2009, 02:29 PM
Don't give me the rolleyes... :rolleyes:

New avatar, satisfied now ?
At least that's a decent board ( user points if you find out which one it is )

1 1/2 year is more than enough to consider a motherboard old.
Especially when we're 2 sockets ahead now, and moving on to the 3rd CPU gen since its launch.

Yes, it can work good, sometimes that's not possible without changing a hardware ( RAM most of the times, or VGA ), very few times hassle-free, but the working fine / not working fine ratio is... very very bad for this board.

Proof ? Check out how many people posted in this thread.

You changed your avatar, +1 for the change

About the motherboard time, is that a new standard I didnt hear about?
On a side note, true we are in XS. Its not extreme, but still has potential. Worth changing to i7? Hmmmm...
I would consider this board more like "Limited" since these i7s cant work on the board, not really "old".

Oh yeah, trust me I know the good/bad ratio. No need to mention or talk about it.


Peee fiiiivvveeee keeeeeeeeee thrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee deluxe aka Bill's destroys a QX9650 board

Why Leeghoofd? Why? :ROTF:

Meezus
08-30-2009, 12:00 PM
Hi Guys, Cibic,

Some updates on my end :)

I upgraded the bios to 1203. It was a nightmare to be honest. The flashing worked fine, however as soon as I restarted the machine it wouldn't start. Stops with LCD posted message: "Det Dram" or "Det Dmem" can't remember one of the two.

I tried everything possible and nothing worked, until I removed the board battery for 10 minutes. Then...magic! The machine started, and the bios was updated.

The machine is a bit more stable now on automatic, but I still get the freeze / sudden auto reboot issues.

One more new phenomenon now is that the machine sometimes halts at the republic of gamers screen at the initial start with LCD poster stuck on message: "MSINSTALL"

Cibic, I reapplied the settings you initially sent me, the difference now is that the CPU multiplier is automatically set to 6 instead of 8.5 in the older bios.

Any ideas or light on what the source of the problem might be?

Cheers.

Cibic
08-30-2009, 12:45 PM
BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 8.5
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Sync Mode
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1333

And let me know.

Cibic
10-03-2009, 09:35 AM
hi guys, new bios from asus website version 1301 - support for newer cpus
Link http://rapidshare.com/files/288223141/1301.zip.html

owcraftsman
10-03-2009, 09:40 PM
The 1301 bios was reported available awhile back but I've been waiting to here if it's any better. Not to much feedback so far. ??

Cibic
10-04-2009, 02:18 AM
Well 1203 seemed OC limiting to me, i think this version is better.

owcraftsman
10-04-2009, 01:03 PM
Maybe it's just my QX9650 but I've always felt I could get more out of it. I can run the multi up and get 4.0 but that's with a lower FSB. Right now I'm rock solid and she takes anything I throw at her so I'm wondering if it would be worth the effort. If this is the bomb it was an awful long time coming. I suspect there's not much in it for me.

RyNemesis
11-14-2009, 08:22 AM
Actually this thread is the reason I joined these forums, and Its sad the OP isn't supporting it anymore, but we can always help each other!

At his point I don't have any problems and hopefully this will be a thread to learn what has and hasn't worked for all of us.

The ASUS Striker II Extreme is one serious OC capable M/B that takes patient tweaking to get anywhere with it, I was so frustrated with it in the beginning I wondered what I was thinking when I bought it.

My present specs;
ASUS Striker II Extreme bios 1203
Q9550 stepping C1 heatspreader lapped on Air Cooling w Xigmatek S-1283 modded to a dual 120mm push - Pull, w heatsink base lapped.
4G 2 x 2G Patriot Viper DDR3 16000/ 2000Mhz memory
2 MSI 260GTX 216sp in SLI
2 500G Seagate SATA2 1 running WinXP32bit, the other running WinVista Home Premium 64bit, HDDs are switch isolated.
Creative X-FI Extreme Gamer Fatal1ty Pro Soundcard
Powered by a Silverstone OP-1000w 82a single 12v rail P/S

The rest is not really important.

I run Vista mainly for DX10 gaming, the 2 HDDs are switch isolated meaning only one HDD is powered to boot the machine, because WinXP is a lot more forgiving when OCing than Vista is, I only go into Vista when I'm 100% positive my OC is rock solid in WinXP.

I'm OCd to 3.83G 24/7 Stable, highest P95 temps 62c, working on fine tuning 4,038G, P95 blend crash after 30min at 66c, so I'm getting close but as we all know it takes time to fine tune any OC with this M/B.

So hello everyone this is my first post here, and I hope for many more. RyNemesis:)

Cibic
11-14-2009, 08:30 AM
Hi RyNemesis, I can help you get stable if you want just post your settings using the template.

RyNemesis
11-14-2009, 08:57 AM
Hi RyNemesis, I can help you get stable if you want just post your settings using the template.

I can do that, thats a lot of information but;

If you don't mind me asking?

I'm interested in your results with the 1301 bios, ASUS didn't give much detail on it, other than supporting new CPUs?, so does it actually help your Q6600 OC?

The results I presently have with the 1203 bios, will they change with the 1301 bios?

Cibic
11-14-2009, 09:17 AM
1203 felt more OC limiting than 1301 and 1201. I guess that's because I have different hardware.

Orion24
01-02-2010, 07:08 AM
Finally switched to Nehalem system and I've seen the last of my full of problems S2E, C1 YORKFIELD, CORSAIR 4GB 1600C7 system. After 1,5 years of troubles these are my points of view:

1) C1 Yorkfield sucks. I ended up running my Q9550 below the 4 GHz mark because it couldn't do it with a proper VCORE. It's wasn't a board limitation.

2) Overclocked system behaviour:

- PRIME95 passes OK
- Memtest passes OK
- Temps OK
- PSU voltage readings OK, and:
- Random BSODs, mainly when accessing the hard drives. Biggest stress seems to be full formatting a hard drive.

The solution that worked for me: Unlinked the FSB from the memory and set the timings slightly below its rated specs at DDR3 1600 C7.
I never suspected that with PRIME95 and MEMTEST givving me no errors, my problems would be memory related, but they were.
Even the simplest overclock of setting FSB to 400 and the memory linked at 1600 was givving me BSODs. Only unlinked was trouble free for me.

Cibic
01-02-2010, 07:12 AM
Finally switched to Nehalem system and I've seen the last of my full of problems S2E, C1 YORKFIELD, CORSAIR 4GB 1600C7 system. After 1,5 years of troubles these are my points of view:

1) C1 Yorkfield sucks. I ended up running my Q9550 below the 4 GHz mark because it couldn't do it with a proper VCORE. It's wasn't a board limitation.

2) Overclocked system behaviour:

- PRIME95 passes OK
- Memtest passes OK
- Temps OK
- PSU voltage readings OK, and:
- Random BSODs, mainly when accessing the hard drives. Biggest stress seems to be full formatting a hard drive.

The solution that worked for me: Unlinked the FSB from the memory and set the timings slightly below its rated specs at DDR3 1600 C7.
I never suspected that with PRIME95 and MEMTEST givving me no errors, my problems would be memory related, but they were.
Even the simplest overclock of setting FSB to 400 and the memory linked at 1600 was givving me BSODs. Only unlinked was trouble free for me.

If ur CPU was unstable it would crash on prime, unstable ram can get no errors. All you really needed was more vNB and vSB and for good measure 1 to 2 notches more vDIMM and link back FSB with RAM.

owcraftsman
01-14-2010, 09:50 AM
The 1301 bios turns out adequate with my setup at least albeit more difficult to get stable than 1202beta was.
I'm not sure where this bios can take me yet all I know for sure is how long it took me to get back to 4.0 stable.
In fairness this may be more a product of switching OS rather than Bios.
However I was finally able to get my 790i ultra system stable which required a bump in vcore, vdimm and memory timing adjustments.
An unexpected plus is lower PLL and VTT setting in bios but +/- .01 to .03 volts difference over all as reported in windows.
Seems even with loadline off the new bios is bumping up voltages

The only Prime errors I received in my 10 hour run was 24K small fft run which happened after 7 hours running time.
Because the error was not a rounding error rather it was "Fatal Error: result was xxxxx.x expected xxxxx.x
This indicated to me a memory issue that had not been revealed by HCI designs Memtest ver 3.8 pro 2 instances. 200% coverage.
Subsequent testing, running 24k, completed 10 passes with no errors and satisfies my need to test any further.
Final settings
L&S 1600 x10
1.46250 vcore windows 1.49v
1.52 PLL windows 1.55v
1.22 VTT windows 1.25v
1.84 vdimm windows 1.90v
1.44 NB windows 1.49v
1.50 SB windows 1.50v
GTL REF0 -43mV Ratio
GTL REF1 -40mV Ratio
GTL REF2 -40mV Ratio
GTL REF3 -43mV Ratio
loadline calibration Disabled
P1 & P2 Auto 7-7-6-18-1t-6-32-10-22-24-9-9-85-7.8uS
AS2E H20
QX9650 H20
Mushkin 2x2 996601
2x GTX 285
SB X-Fi Ti
Corsair HX850
W7 x64 Pro
1301 bios

Cibic
01-14-2010, 10:32 AM
Sorry to disappoint you mate, but you are unstable still. It might not be now, but you will see that crashes will gradually increase. You could try these - I think you should be getting no errors:
Verify ur actuals in hardware monitor (bios)

vcore - from my experience this will drop to 1.44-1.45 on full load, read following line to make sure
loadline calibration Enabled u could do less vcore not on load, recommended to stick this +0.01 to 0.02 from what ur current is without LLC on full load, note that if u use AINap it will drop vcore -0.04-0.05 no matter wat u choose.
vdimm 1.92 actual
NB 1.50 actual
SB 1.50 -1.60 BIOS value
GTL REF0 Auto
GTL REF1 Auto
GTL REF2 Auto
GTL REF3 Auto
P1 & P2 Enabled 7-7-6-18-1t-6-32-10-22-24-9-9-85-7.8uS 1t= Make sure thats wat ur ram supports, usually 2GB dimms are much more error-free when in 2T Command Rate - CMD

I was going to wish you luck, but you won't need it :)

owcraftsman
01-14-2010, 02:19 PM
Dude this took me a solid week 4-5 hours per day to tune in my GTLs and get stable. I would not have reported it as such unless it was true. I do not use junk software (AINap) and I was unable to get my system stable at 4.0 with LLC enabled using 1301. At full load my windows reported vcore is 1.41-1.42 my bios setting is 1.46250 so the droop should be clear to you. The tests on my RAM was exhaustive as well and I have confirmed my settings with Mushkin. I clearly listed my hardware so you could have checked this before popping off. Still I respect your opinion and will head your advice. However I hope you are wrong but for a week now I've been doing some pretty intense gaming 2-3 hours per day plus the usual stuff with zero glitches, BSOD or Freezes). I simply reported the facts not my imagination here so do with it what you want. I only offered it up in hopes this is helpful to other.

Cibic
01-15-2010, 02:17 AM
The settings i posted is for 1600 FSB, i dont mean u cant get any higher. And about ur GTL REFS doing the formula with 1.24-1.25 VTT results in +/- 39/40 (in as2e), you see the auto setting will do that for you; at least up to 2GHz FSB. If a CPU is unstable, it will crash almost instantly - people seem to blame LLC - a good approach is to relax everything else giving more than adequate votlage (minding temps) on everything possible (even SB) except GTL REFs and test small fft's for an hour. If it doesnt crash then most probably ur CPU is stable. After than you can reduce voltage and test until it starts crashing thus discovering ur CPU's limitation on that specific frequency. Blend test on the other hand is a pain - even one rounding error after 15 hours means instability.

SB voltage at 1600FSB should be 1.55 in bios and NB from 1.48-1.54 actual, depending. At 1800FSB, 1.60 vSB bios and NB from 1.54-1.64 actual, depending.

Just giving a heads up :up:

EDIT: If blend test survives 8hours and after that it crashes then most probably the SB needs more voltage

slim142
01-15-2010, 06:54 AM
Cibic could you post the formula? i forgot what was it again lol

Cibic
01-15-2010, 07:36 AM
for 45nm (VTT * 0.635) - (VTT * 0.667) and for 65nm (VTT * 0.667) - (VTT * 0.635).


To be honest i think that 65nm's formula is the one to use regardless. But since I haven't got a 45nm cpu I cannot guarantee it.

slim142
01-15-2010, 08:47 PM
VTT what is selected in BIOS or actual voltage? What if your motherboard has a variable VTT? Like mines if I set it on 1.30, it goes from 1.30 to 1.33 randomly, but mostly during load.

Cibic
01-16-2010, 02:34 AM
You should always use the prevalent value, the one that is more common seen in HW monitor (bios).

slim142
01-16-2010, 09:34 AM
Ok Thanks for the help

owcraftsman
01-19-2010, 07:04 AM
Equation: for 45nm

Vtt x 0.667 + Y = Vtt x 0.635

1.22v x 0.667 + Y = 1.22v x 0.635
0.813v + Y = 0.774v
Y = 0.813v - 0.774v
Y = -0.039v
Y = -39 mv

Source (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=202292&highlight=GTL+ref+voltage)

Remember with a negative numbers a step toward zero is a positive movement literally.
Through the extensive use by others of Prime95 it has been discovered that certain test have certain tendencies.
Through my own testing I have confirmed these assertions and know, For example:
I know 384k and 160k test tend to produce the most heat and react favorably to vcore adjustment and is where I begin.
If I get a rounding error here I bump the vcore until I can pass 5 passes using both test.
I know freezes and the unexpected errors usually means a memory issue and is a Small FFT test.
I know the first 3 hours of Prime Blend testing react favorably to NB & SB voltage adjustments.
I know the 320K & 32k test react favorably to adjusting GTL's again fine tuning the adjustments until I can complete 5 passes with no errors.
Since all of these test occur 3 to 6 hours in to the testing I consider these shortcuts.
I know in order to complete all test it requires a minimum of 10 hours before Prime begins repeating test over again and there is no replacement for passing all test.
Once I have passed 5 passes of 384 320 160 & 32 K test I shoot for a 10 hour run.
In my case I got other than a rounding error on a 22k test at about 6.5 hours in to the test on one lane all others completed 12 hours.
This indicated a memory error so I bumped my vdimm and hard set the advanced timings of my memory in bios and ran 5 passes of the 22k test with no errors.
I should note that when setting up the test I used 2000 MB memory instead of the default 1600 MB.
Now I was able to pass 10 hours of Prime95 Blend.
Even with the short cuts it took days.

Source (http://www.evga.com/forumsarchive/tm.asp?m=100733050)

You are welcome to try this out for yourself to verify.

Cibic
01-20-2010, 02:08 AM
Have fun wasting time! Its actually pretty simple:

An unstable CPU will crash within minutes and will most probably restart ur system
Rounding errors and freezing could be from unstable ram, NB and SB - instability could depend on voltages, timings and heat
Some instabilities can take hours to discover - u could get a rounding error after 14 hours of blend testing. This has happened to me and it turned out unstable SB
GTL Refs should be kept on auto or what the formula suggests according to VTT - if u set the wrong polarity ur system will crash within minutes so dont worry about that
Just because u can pass ram testing doesnt mean ram is stable, the stress on the ram is just not enough to bring the errors out - even with 64bit prime95 with 3500/4000MB of ram usage is still not good

From what I know now, it took me less than a day to overclock another as2e with q9300 and 1600MHz of ram (GTL refs left on auto)

EDIT: CPU GTL REFs far from the formula's result while blend testing will make some/all cores load jitter or even crash the system with a restart

owcraftsman
01-20-2010, 02:46 PM
Have fun wasting time! Its actually pretty simple:

An unstable CPU will crash within minutes and will most probably restart ur system
Rounding errors and freezing could be from unstable ram, NB and SB - instability could depend on voltages, timings and heat
Some instabilities can take hours to discover - u could get a rounding error after 14 hours of blend testing. This has happened to me and it turned out unstable SB
GTL Refs should be kept on auto or what the formula suggests according to VTT - if u set the wrong polarity ur system will crash within minutes so dont worry about that
Just because u can pass ram testing doesnt mean ram is stable, the stress on the ram is just not enough to bring the errors out - even with 64bit prime95 with 3500/4000MB of ram usage is still not good

From what I know now, it took me less than a day to overclock another as2e with q9300 and 1600MHz of ram (GTL refs left on auto)

EDIT: CPU GTL REFs far from the formula's result while blend testing will make some/all cores load jitter or even crash the system with a restart

Cibic, are you suggesting my post would be a waste of someone, anyone's time? You say it's really pretty simply yet what follows that statement has no beginning or end let alone a purpose. Unless we are to use a crystal ball.
Please Sir be clear.

Cibic
01-21-2010, 05:02 AM
Usually after posts there are replies - those are just quick replies, "shortcuts". Try to compare each line of ur previous post to each line of mine.

All I am saying is that there's a much simpler way to OC this board, let alone waste ur time with GTL Refs.

If you think about it, the same way u posted ur results and settings for anyone to reference, in that way i posted my replies. Use them or ignore them - fyi im not getting any benefit from this, am I?

Anarchists usually know that there's more than one say.

smoke13
03-10-2010, 10:16 AM
CPU
Intel Core2 Quad Q9400 2.66GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Co Motherboard
asus striker 2 extreme Memory
Patriot Viper 4gb (2x2gb) ddr3 pc3 12800 Graphics Card
XFX 9800gt
Hard Drive
Seagate SV35.3 ST3750330SV 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0 Sound Card
supreme fx 2 Power Supply
ABS Tagan ITZ Series ITZ1100 1100W ATX12V / EPS12V Case
antec 1200
CPU cooling
swifttech appogge gtz GPU cooling
factory OS
windos 7 64 bit Monitor
Hanns·G HW-191APB Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Mon

will have pics of bio tonite i play mw and wow gameplay goes good for a while but it stutters for a half a second then hardlock it normaly does it alot on wow but started on mw now pls help no errors on:mad: memtest

owcraftsman
03-10-2010, 11:00 AM
Hard locks are generally memory related try to bump your vdimm a bit and also if you've bumped your eye candy default it until we figure this out.

NKrader
03-10-2010, 11:03 AM
just bought this board. will be using

QX6700
4x1gb OCZ 1066
9800GTX

what bios should I install?

smoke13
03-10-2010, 11:10 AM
am having a hard time putting my bios pics any help says upload error

smoke13
03-10-2010, 11:53 AM
i have bios1401

smoke13
03-10-2010, 01:12 PM
heres my bios

owcraftsman
03-10-2010, 07:26 PM
just bought this board. will be using

QX6700
4x1gb OCZ 1066
9800GTX

what bios should I install?

I would use the 1101 or above but with that 65nm about any of them will do if your running W7 you might just update to 1402 but I've read some peeps having issues. Maybe the resident expert Cibic will chime in.

edit: added quote

sema007
05-20-2010, 08:01 AM
hello to all. please help me to make my system stable, past years my system was freezing randomly no matter what was on, game, movie, music, after I found this settings on Internet I make system more stable than before and was freezing more less than before but from beginning of this month I started playing Assassin Creed 2 and Freezing make me craze again. The system getting freezing when I'm playing around 10 -25 min. I am try time to time some different settings like push some more voltage to NB – SB –CPU but still freezing on games. please if you can help me with it and sorry for my bad English.

my settings are:

Required System Specifications
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = Cooler Master RealPower 1000w
CPU = Q9450
RAM = 2X 1GB Corsair Dominator 1800Mhz “CM3X1024 – 1800C7DIN”
HDD ( the one where you have your windows installation on ) = 500GB Maxtor + 150GD WD Raptor
VGA1 = Evga 9800 GX2
VGA2 ( if you have ) = no
VGA3 ( if you have ) = no
SPU ( Sound Card ) = SupremexFX 2 ( Stock)
NorthBridge Cooling = Liquid Cooling from 3D Galaxy (Stock from case GIGABYTE 3D Mercury)
SouthBridge Cooling = 2 Optional Funs From Asus (made for this motherboard)
CPU Cooling = Liquid Cooling from 3D Galaxy (Stock from case GIGABYTE 3D Mercury)
RAM Cooling = Corsair Dominator 3 Fun RAM Cooler.
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = 15.53 WHQL
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = 197.45_desktop_win7_winvista_32bit_international_w hql
Sound Card Drivers Version = Unknown
BIOS version 0801 REQUIRED

BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 7.5
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio =Sync Mode
FSB (QDR) MHz =1333
MEM (DDR) MHz =1333
LDT Frequency =X4
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = 200.5
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Auto
P2 =Auto
tCL ( CAS Latency ) =9
tRCD =9
tRP =9
tRAS =24
Command Per Clock (CMD) =2T
tRRD = Auto 7
tRC = Auto 31
tWR = Auto 10
tWTR = Auto 25
tFAW = Auto 31
tRD = Auto 9
tRTP = Auto 4
tRFC = 72
tREF = Auto 7.8uS

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage =1,3v
Loadline Calibration = Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage =1,54v
CPU VTT Voltage =1,12v
Memory Voltage =1,8v
NB Core Voltage =1,44v
SB Core Voltage =1,55v
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = +30mV
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = Auto

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Disabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 = Enabled
CPU Core 4 = Enabled

Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled

Problem Description
Freezing

GluteusMaximus
05-20-2010, 08:21 AM
I would suggest turning your NB GTL REF back to "Auto" and try lowering your NB voltage instead of increasing it and see if you get any response.

sema007
05-20-2010, 12:47 PM
I would suggest turning your NB GTL REF back to "Auto" and try lowering your NB voltage instead of increasing it and see if you get any response.

Thanks my friend for posting. i made this changes and now NB GTL REF is (AUTO) and NB voltage make from 1,44v to 1,30v. lets see how it will work, i will try to play game and see how far i can go. sorry for my bad English and many thanks for your post.

owcraftsman
05-20-2010, 06:57 PM
It's typical for folks to compensate for low vcore with a high FSB voltage in your case you may need to bump your vcore a bit.
At your clock I see no need for loadline Calibration either heck I don't need it at 4.0 GHz and much more stable without it.
Even your SB is set to high for a stock clock auto would be better.

sema007
05-21-2010, 06:55 AM
I would suggest turning your NB GTL REF back to "Auto" and try lowering your NB voltage instead of increasing it and see if you get any response.

i try this settings and all day computer was on and no freezes at all but as soonest i start to play Assassin Creed 2 after 15 minutes of play system is freezing. so i don't see any changes, it was like that.

sema007
05-21-2010, 07:04 AM
It's typical for folks to compensate for low vcore with a high FSB voltage in your case you may need to bump your vcore a bit.
At your clock I see no need for loadline Calibration either heck I don't need it at 4.0 GHz and much more stable without it.
Even your SB is set to high for a stock clock auto would be better.

Thank you for your help, i made this changes and lets see how far my system works without freezing. i want to try now to play Assassin Creed 2 lets see what will happen.

sema007
05-21-2010, 07:42 AM
It's typical for folks to compensate for low vcore with a high FSB voltage in your case you may need to bump your vcore a bit.
At your clock I see no need for loadline Calibration either heck I don't need it at 4.0 GHz and much more stable without it.
Even your SB is set to high for a stock clock auto would be better.

Same Problem My friend, after 15 minutes of playing system just freeze. Now i Have SB 1.5v, Vcore 1.32v and Load Calibration = Disabled.

What next i should try?

sema007
05-21-2010, 12:02 PM
Hello to all, i am playing around 4 hours and no freeze, my system looks like stable after i made some changes to nVidia Control Panel. Multi GPU mode change to Single GPU mode and Multi Display mode change to Single display mode and system works fantastic for now, lats see how stable will be next days. many thanks to you guys who try to help me with this problems.

sema007
05-21-2010, 10:04 PM
:( again freeze two times in this morning. shi-t motherboard. don't now what to do.:mad:

NKrader
05-21-2010, 10:10 PM
:( again freeze two times in this morning. shi-t motherboard. don't now what to do.:mad:

overclock it right?? :yepp:

owcraftsman
05-22-2010, 06:44 AM
Freezes generally are memory related make sure you set your memory according to Corsairs spec.
I would bring it up to speed but at default the timings appear set to loose.

GluteusMaximus
05-22-2010, 06:46 AM
hello to all. please help me to make my system stable, past years my system was freezing randomly no matter what was on, game, movie, music, after I found this settings on Internet I make system more stable than before and was freezing more less than before but from beginning of this month I started playing Assassin Creed 2 and Freezing make me craze again. The system getting freezing when I'm playing around 10 -25 min. I am try time to time some different settings like push some more voltage to NB – SB –CPU but still freezing on games. please if you can help me with it and sorry for my bad English.

my settings are:

Required System Specifications
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = Cooler Master RealPower 1000w
CPU = Q9450
RAM = 2X 1GB Corsair Dominator 1800Mhz “CM3X1024 – 1800C7DIN”
HDD ( the one where you have your windows installation on ) = 500GB Maxtor + 150GD WD Raptor
VGA1 = Evga 9800 GX2
VGA2 ( if you have ) = no
VGA3 ( if you have ) = no
SPU ( Sound Card ) = SupremexFX 2 ( Stock)
NorthBridge Cooling = Liquid Cooling from 3D Galaxy (Stock from case GIGABYTE 3D Mercury)
SouthBridge Cooling = 2 Optional Funs From Asus (made for this motherboard)
CPU Cooling = Liquid Cooling from 3D Galaxy (Stock from case GIGABYTE 3D Mercury)
RAM Cooling = Corsair Dominator 3 Fun RAM Cooler.
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = 15.53 WHQL
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = 197.45_desktop_win7_winvista_32bit_international_w hql
Sound Card Drivers Version = Unknown
BIOS version 1402

BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 7.5
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio =Sync Mode
FSB (QDR) MHz =1333
MEM (DDR) MHz =1333
LDT Frequency =X5
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = 200
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Enabled
P2 =Enabled
tCL ( CAS Latency ) =8
tRCD =8
tRP =8
tRAS =22
Command Per Clock (CMD) =2T
tRRD = Auto 7
tRC = Auto 31
tWR = Auto 10
tWTR = Auto 25
tFAW = Auto 31
tRD = Auto 9
tRTP = Auto 4
tRFC = 72
tREF = Auto 7.8uS

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage =1,3v
Loadline Calibration = Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage =1,50v
CPU VTT Voltage =1,12v
Memory Voltage =1.72-1.76v
NB Core Voltage =1.30v
SB Core Voltage =1.50v
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = Auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = Auto

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Disabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 = Enabled
CPU Core 4 = Enabled

Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled

Problem Description
Freezing

Try changing to the highlighted settings and see if you get any positive response. Those memory modules work best using the latest BIOS from ASUS (1402). Just because your game craps out, doesn't mean it's an unstable configuration. Try to be patient, this is what overclocking is all about.

Download and run Prime95 "Blend" test and see if you get any errors. Also, check to see if that game has any latest patches which may have been released to fix that crash. Some games, especially new ones, have memory leaks and such poor coding that it's amazing they run at all.

EDIT: After some research on Assassin Creed 2, I see that it is a game by Ubisoft who are known for producing buggy games. AND I see that you are one of many with this same issue. I believe it's a poor coding problem with the game. You might follow some suggestions found HERE (http://www.unigamesity.com/how-to-fix-assassins-creed-2-crashes-and-freezes/).

sema007
05-23-2010, 07:28 AM
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Thanks for all of you for helping me with this system. i will try settings you give to me and see how system will work, thank you my friend. i will try to find some patch or fix for this game ass well on Internet. Sorry for my bad English again.

WunabeeaFlyah
07-26-2010, 06:30 AM
Hi. Iīm trying to squeeze more out of my Q9650 (45nm), and I see with interest that some of you have been through the tedious task of setting GTL REFs manually. I have just been advised to do so, and got a tip on how to fiddle with them.

My source and I use OCCT, though he has a different mobo. And Iīm told that with OCCT error message on cores #0 or #1 I should increase GTL equally on lanes 0 and 2, and with error on cores #2 or #3, I should increase voltage on lanes 1 and 3. What I can see from some of your posts, you change voltage in lanes 0 and 3, and in 1 and 2 paired respectively.

What confuses me is that the anandtech reviewer http://www.anandtech.com/show/2500/18 pairs the lanes 0 and 2, and 1 and 3. And according to the different BIOS posted here, they seem to be paired like 0 and 3, and 1 and 2. Which method should I use?

What would be an appropriate method for achieving proper GTL REF settings? http://www.anandtech.com/show/2500/18 says you should go from 67% to 63% of VTT, where do they get those percentages from? Which percentages do you use?

Any help highly appreciated!

Bjorn

My board is the 790i Ultra SLI (ROG) Rev. B1 edition. BIOS 1301.

Cibic
07-26-2010, 11:03 AM
Hi. Iīm trying to squeeze more out of my Q9650 (45nm), and I see with interest that some of you have been through the tedious task of setting GTL REFs manually. I have just been advised to do so, and got a tip on how to fiddle with them.

My source and I use OCCT, though he has a different mobo. And Iīm told that with OCCT error message on cores #0 or #1 I should increase GTL equally on lanes 0 and 2, and with error on cores #2 or #3, I should increase voltage on lanes 1 and 3. What I can see from some of your posts, you change voltage in lanes 0 and 3, and in 1 and 2 paired respectively.

What confuses me is that the anandtech reviewer http://www.anandtech.com/show/2500/18 pairs the lanes 0 and 2, and 1 and 3. And according to the different BIOS posted here, they seem to be paired like 0 and 3, and 1 and 2. Which method should I use?

What would be an appropriate method for achieving proper GTL REF settings? http://www.anandtech.com/show/2500/18 says you should go from 67% to 63% of VTT, where do they get those percentages from? Which percentages do you use?

Any help highly appreciated!

Bjorn

My board is the 790i Ultra SLI (ROG) Rev. B1 edition. BIOS 1301.


There's a calculator on this site somewhere but the motherboard handles this option just fine if not better on auto (CPU&NB). Fill out the template and what you are trying to achieve and I will help you :welcome:

WunabeeaFlyah
07-27-2010, 01:38 AM
Thanks for helping me out. Iīm trying to reach 4.2 on my Q9600, I seem to have met a wall at 3.95, I intend to increase vcore further. And since I have read about the manual GTL REF setting, Iīd really like to give it a go. And since no two boards are the same, I may just realize that auto is best. But Iīm very keen on trying. Iīll try and search for that calculator you mentioned. EDIT: Found it, having a look at it.

If you donīt mind having a look, hereīs my BIOS. Thanks.

CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 9x
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Unlinked
FSB - Memory Ratio = auto
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1800
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1600
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = Auto
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Enabled
P2 = Enabled
tCL =6
tRCD = 6
tRP = 6
tRAS = 24
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 2T
tRRD = 1
tRC = 32
tWR = 10
tWTR = Auto (18)
tFAW = 32
tRD = 7
tRTP = Auto (6)
tRFC = 72
tREF = Auto (7.8us)

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = 1.35
Loadline Calibration = Disabled
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.56
CPU VTT voltage =1.32
Memory Voltage = 1.66
NB Core Voltage = 1.52
SB Core Voltage = 1.60

CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = +50%
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = Auto

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Disabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 = Enabled
CPU Core 4 = Enabled

Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled

Cibic
07-27-2010, 02:13 AM
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 9x
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Unlinked
FSB - Memory Ratio = auto
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1866
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1866
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = 200
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Auto
P2 = Auto
tCL =9
tRCD = 9
tRP = 9
tRAS = 30
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 2T
Rest auto

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = 1.35 (actual)
Loadline Calibration = Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.58
CPU VTT voltage =1.34
Memory Voltage = 1.76 - Make sure you have a fan over your ram
NB Core Voltage = 1.64 - Use everest to monitor NB temp, under any circumstance go over 65 celcius
SB Core Voltage = 1.60

CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = Auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = DDR3_REF

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Enabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Disabled
Virtualization Technology = Enabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 = Enabled
CPU Core 4 = Enabled

Prime95 small fft's for at least 4hours, then blend for another 8 hours.

WunabeeaFlyah
07-27-2010, 02:33 AM
Made a typo in BIOS, my FSB QDR = 1755
Found the tutorial and calculator, thanks. Still confused about which lanes should be linked. According to tutorial itīs lane 0/2 and 1/3, the lanes linked in this thread are 0/3 and 1/2?!

Bjorn

WunabeeaFlyah
07-27-2010, 03:30 AM
And Sebanīs calculator doesnīt seem to ever create a negative GTL value. How does one calculate whether to go positive or negative?

Cibic
07-28-2010, 02:03 PM
Follow the first set of the calculator and just turn them into minus wotever values u get. note the above settings i posted here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4487793&postcount=671) are for u

WunabeeaFlyah
07-29-2010, 02:10 AM
Thanks Cibic. I got memory unlinked and I got them at stock freq. and voltage, canīt fit a fan over the ram anyway due to cpu cooler taking up space.
I have previously tried higher NB voltage, but found that "less is more", going down in the 1.50īs made it all stable. 1.35 vcore is not going to suffice either, thatīll barely take me to 4.05 GHz. I think I have one of those lazy Q9650īs. At FSB 1867 I canīt get a complete boot @ 1.46875 vcore.

But as you say, Iīll try īn pop in the values from the calculator, I put in a -40 as Y-item value, got that from the other recommended calculations. And Iīll try and up the Vtt from 1.32 to 1.34.

Thanks!

Cibic
07-29-2010, 12:27 PM
Thanks Cibic. I got memory unlinked and I got them at stock freq. and voltage, canīt fit a fan over the ram anyway due to cpu cooler taking up space.

You should be able to fit corsair's dominator fan or something equivalent.


I have previously tried higher NB voltage, but found that "less is more", going down in the 1.50īs made it all stable.

You got that from Anandtech's guide haven't u. With a quad core, 4 gigs of ram+ and this board on or above 1800 FSB you need 1.65vNB with loosened up timings. What temperatures do u get on full stress on the NB (everest)?


1.35 vcore is not going to suffice either, thatīll barely take me to 4.05 GHz. I think I have one of those lazy Q9650īs. At FSB 1867 I canīt get a complete boot @ 1.46875 vcore.

Pretty sure its the ram holding you back. You can try running vCore the same as VTT; the settings I've given you should be ok for everything but vCore, VTT and (possibly) ram(do not go over 1.8v actual without direct cooling)

Deathspine
08-25-2010, 09:00 PM
Resetting my bios and forget the key settings to make 8G Ram stable. Anyone remember those key settings, I recall getting them from this forum. It was with fFAW and tRFC. Thanks in advance.

theKramer
10-25-2010, 07:46 AM
Just an update to anyone still with this motherboard. I bought this board second hand and was having all the issues mentioned in this thread, even at default settings. Bought Corsair XMS3 RAM and I have not looked back since. I have my motherboard running at 1600FSB for a clock of 3.8GHz and with the settings in page 1 of this thread and board has been rock solid.

I had this RAM for ages, running at 1333FSB and it used to lock/freeze all the time: Crucial Ballistix (http://www.komplett.ie/Komplett/product/ZKB_01COM/08_MEMINT/productdetails/15518205/Crucial_Ballistix_4GB_1333MHz_PC3_10600/BL2KIT25664BN1337/default.aspx). Since I changed to the Corsair XMS3 I have been problem free. I know this is an old thread and sorry for bumping it, but I thought this post might help people that are still having issues with this board. It really is picky on the type of memory it likes...

slim142
10-25-2010, 08:16 AM
Thanks for the tip Kramer

If you could let us know the type of IC in that memory, it would be great.

Also, is that ram kit designed for lynnfield? or is one of the old xms3 series?

theKramer
11-07-2010, 09:43 AM
Hi Slim.
These are the RAM modules (http://www.komplett.ie/Komplett/product/ZKB_01COM/08_MEMINT/productdetails/15444159/Corsair_XMS3_12GB_1600MHz_PC3_12800/HX3X12G1600C9/default.aspx) I bought, but I got the 8GB kit.

How do I check what IC was used? I still have the original box and packaging, so I can try and find out. This RAM is less than 6 months old, so I would say its defo rated for Lynnfield. It uses only 1.65v so I think that makes it ok for Lynnfield, but Im no expert.

Since my last post, I have only had one random system freeze, whereas it was freezing at least 5+ times a day when I was on the old RAM (Crucial Ballistix).

I have been playing Bioshock and Half-Life 2 with the processor clocked at 3.8GHz with no issues at all. Very happy with the board now. And thats all with stock voltages. I have also updated my BIOS to the 1402 version.

Chasingpink
01-30-2011, 07:38 PM
I was just wondering if this is still open and if people are still willing to help????

slim142
01-30-2011, 08:37 PM
Forum is open and thread still open so that means you can post your questions and hopefully get the answers you are looking for.

Link does not work Kramer, but from the link I can see its the Corsair XMS3 kit. Thats a solid kit for this motherboard (well, at least Corsair always worked fine for me)

The IC can be checked by opening the RAMs heatsink OR looking around the internet with your model and revision numbers.

Its been such a long time since I stopped reading about the motherboard and computers in general. Im so into car audio now that I barely have time to read whats going on with CPUs, Motherboards, Graphics cards etc

I never found out if Lynnfield/Bloomfields RAM kits were fine with dual-channel motherboards like the Striker and the before-westmere era.

All I can say is, play around with the BIOS. Flash it with AWDFlash, reset to defaults and read the pages here to give you a quick idea of what you need to be looking at and what to change etc.

Good luck

Chasingpink
01-30-2011, 09:40 PM
Well I have spent the whole day reading this post!!! All I can say is wow:shocked: I have made some adjustments to my bios and now I am able to run prime for the last 1 hour and a half which is better than before my reading this post. All I am wanting to do is have a stable system so I can start learning how to overclock. As I watch prime, volts and tempts oh yes can't forget the core speed. I sit and wounder what I can change next. I am getting some quick drops in volts but they go right back up and the Core speed seems to be low for the Q9450 cpu. I am going to let prime run for a little bit longer and I will post the bios setting and volt drops hope this will help anybody to help me???

Cibic
01-31-2011, 03:24 AM
I have some free time to help :)

slim142
01-31-2011, 08:04 AM
Yes, I can help but please post BIOS settings to see where you standing at.

Chasingpink
01-31-2011, 08:22 PM
Okay here is my settings for my bios

PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = OCZ Elite Stream 1000 watt
CPU = Q9450 Quad Core
RAM = OCZ3P13334GK 2x2gig
HDD ( the one where you have your windows installation on ) = JBOD
VGA1 = EVGA 8800 gts 512
VGA2 ( if you have ) = EVG 8800 gts 512
VGA3 ( if you have ) =
SPU ( Sound Card ) = Supreme FXII
NorthBridge Cooling = Stock
SouthBridge Cooling = Stock
CPU Cooling = Cooler Master
RAM Cooling = None
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = 15.51 from Nvidia
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = 266.58 from Evga
Sound Card Drivers Version = not sure
BIOS version = 1402

BIOS Settings

Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 7.5
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Sync Mode
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333
MEM (DDR) MHz = Linked at 1333.3
LDT Frequency = 5x
[color=red]PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = 200.0
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = enabled
P2 = enabled
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 7
tRCD = 7
tRP = 7
tRAS = 20
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 2T
tRRD = Auto 4
tRC = 40
tWR = Auto 12
tWTR = Auto 16
tFAW = Auto 17
tRD = Auto 9
tRTP = Auto 5
tRFC = 80
tREF =7.8

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = 1.3
Loadline Calibration = Disabled
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.5
CPU VTT Voltage = 1.12
Memory Voltage = 1.8
NB Core Voltage = 1.3
SB Core Voltage = 1.5
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = Auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = Auto

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Disabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 = Enabled
CPU Core 4 = Enabled

Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled


I was able to run Prime95 for 2 and half hours last night without any freezing:clap: But I did notice the voltages doing weird things:confused: Here is the log from PC Probe II (look at attachment) the really funny thing is the opt temp there is nothing hooked up yet!!!!
All so I am only getting 2500 MHz for my CPU according to CPU-Z. I would like to get it up to 2660 MHz. Looking forward to any suggestions.

slim142
01-31-2011, 08:49 PM
Set your CPU multiplier to the highest you can.

Also, your NB voltage will be pretty low if you decide to overclock. Try to set it to 1.38 (should be 1.42 on the readings) and see if that helps when you get problems.

And VTT set it to 1.26 if you run into problems too.

But check temps and make sure you dont get into hot temps.

Your TRC seems high, try to lower it, but nothing below 30. This will improve ram reading speed a lot. Might need vram bump.

Chasingpink
01-31-2011, 09:17 PM
Thanks!!! I will apply the changes right now and let you know how it goes

Chasingpink
01-31-2011, 10:52 PM
was run prime for about 45min with new settings then the computer shut down HMMM

slim142
02-01-2011, 05:33 AM
Ok so forget about the TRC for now. Set it back to 40

Put VTT to 1.26 and NB to 1.36

You should play around with NB voltage (between 1.34-1.40)

Chasingpink
02-01-2011, 08:46 PM
What is the max temp for Northbridge and Southbridge and Does SPP and MCP represent them I am now using AIDA64 for temp monitoring

slim142
02-01-2011, 08:51 PM
SPP is NB
MCP is SB
Max temps for both is 60c

But honestly, mines are much higher and nothing has happened in the past 2 years.

Chasingpink
02-01-2011, 09:33 PM
okay thanks for clearing that up.
what am I looking for when changing the NB voltage. Am I trying to go has high as possible with out problems and not over heating???
And what does VTT do?? OR maybe I should be asking what is it?

slim142
02-02-2011, 10:21 AM
NB voltage is key when it comes to stability even without overclocking.

VTT if I remember correctly is the front side bus voltage.

Chasingpink
02-02-2011, 08:32 PM
Changed settings
VTT TO 1.26 which reads 1.29 NB to 1.36 which reads 1.36 put the multiplier to 8 which is has high as it can go
First reboot failed then tried to reboot into safe mode which worked
rebooted normal started Stability test and 5 min into it froze
Returned VTT and NB back to what they where and left the multiplier
Ran prime for 6 hrs noprob

slim142
02-03-2011, 10:27 PM
I guess newer BIOS or your motherboard really dislikes high voltages

Chasingpink
02-06-2011, 11:56 AM
i wonder if the memory has something to do with it. looking at the qualified vendors list which most of the memory is not made any more bummer. any suggestion on what i should get????

theKramer
02-20-2011, 05:31 AM
Hi Chasingpink.
I would recommend that you get Corsair XMS3 modules. Preferable 1600MHz DDR3, as then it will be easier to match your FSB speed to RAM speed.
With this memory, I just bumped my FSB to 400, with a Core2 8500, and it worked perfectly. Im happy enough with the 700Mhz increase in clock speed, so havent bothered trying to up it.
You defo cant go wrong with with XMS3 for this board.

bubbakja
06-09-2011, 10:17 AM
Has anyone had a problem with their Striker II where it randomly won't fully post ?

Mine will boot, but it doesn't bring the USB or Video card online and I have to restart 1-3 times to get it to post correctly. It is random, but happens like 2/3 times when I turn the PC on.

Cibic
06-09-2011, 04:06 PM
Okay here is my settings for my bios

PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = OCZ Elite Stream 1000 watt
CPU = Q9450 Quad Core
RAM = OCZ3P13334GK 2x2gig
HDD ( the one where you have your windows installation on ) = JBOD
VGA1 = EVGA 8800 gts 512
VGA2 ( if you have ) = EVG 8800 gts 512
VGA3 ( if you have ) =
SPU ( Sound Card ) = Supreme FXII
NorthBridge Cooling = Stock
SouthBridge Cooling = Stock
CPU Cooling = Cooler Master
RAM Cooling = None
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = 15.51 from Nvidia
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = 266.58 from Evga
Sound Card Drivers Version = not sure
BIOS version = 1402

BIOS Settings

Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 7.5
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Sync Mode
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333
MEM (DDR) MHz = Linked at 1333.3
LDT Frequency = 5x
[color=red]PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = 200.0
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = enabled
P2 = enabled
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 7
tRCD = 7
tRP = 7
tRAS = 20
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 2T
tRRD = Auto 4
tRC = 40
tWR = Auto 12
tWTR = Auto 16
tFAW = Auto 17
tRD = Auto 9
tRTP = Auto 5
tRFC = 80
tREF =7.8

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = 1.3
Loadline Calibration = Disabled
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.5
CPU VTT Voltage = 1.12
Memory Voltage = 1.8
NB Core Voltage = 1.3
SB Core Voltage = 1.5
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = Auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = Auto

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Disabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 = Enabled
CPU Core 4 = Enabled

Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled


I was able to run Prime95 for 2 and half hours last night without any freezing:clap: But I did notice the voltages doing weird things:confused: Here is the log from PC Probe II (look at attachment) the really funny thing is the opt temp there is nothing hooked up yet!!!!
All so I am only getting 2500 MHz for my CPU according to CPU-Z. I would like to get it up to 2660 MHz. Looking forward to any suggestions.



Try these:

Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 8
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Sync Mode
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333
MEM (DDR) MHz = Linked at 1333.3
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = 200.0
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = enabled
P2 = enabled
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 7
tRCD = 7
tRP = 7
tRAS = 20
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 2T
tRRD = Auto
tRC = [COLOR="red"]Auto (for now)
tWR = Auto
tWTR = Auto
tFAW = Auto
tRD = Auto
tRTP = Auto
tRFC = Auto
tREF =7.8

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = Find the appropriate value to reflect the VID field displayed in coretemp with the following option enabled
Loadline Calibration = Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.5
CPU VTT Voltage = 1.2 actual in hardware monitor
Memory Voltage = 1.8* make sure in hardware monitor (bios) this doesn't go below 1.8 and not above 1.85-1.86
NB Core Voltage = 1.4 actual
SB Core Voltage = 1.5
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = Auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = Auto

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Disabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 = Enabled
CPU Core 4 = Enabled

Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled

The above settings should definitely work. Keep monitoring temps with AIDA64 followed by hardware monitor after a restart. It sounds like one of you components overheats or you have ram incapability (OCZ). It could be fine one day and the next would just crash on you. Just something for you to keep in mind

EDIT: As slim142 suggested, do check your temps. You do not want NB or SB above 65 at any point otherwise corruption, crash or shutdown is imminent; also set the max temp for NB and SB to 90 in bios

Cibic
06-09-2011, 04:09 PM
Has anyone had a problem with their Striker II where it randomly won't fully post ?

Mine will boot, but it doesn't bring the USB or Video card online and I have to restart 1-3 times to get it to post correctly. It is random, but happens like 2/3 times when I turn the PC on.

Do you overclock? Either case, we might be able to help you if you could fill in the template for us.

Cheers