Dragon Lin @ Abit

[FUGGER]

We all know of Oskar @ DFI and Randy Chang @ Asus, well now there is Dragon Lin.

Dragon Lin is in the design approval department and behind many of the boards we love and use.

It was nice to meet you and many thanks for taking the time to mod my board last minute during the show.

I noticed a Vapochill in his lab :)

If anyone has any questions, concerns, or suggestions post up, he should be visiting XS from time to time.

:welcome:

[loonym]

Is abit done with nvidia chipsets?

[FUGGER]

I asked as well and did not get solid reply, I did not see anything myself. I will ask again.

[[XC] riptide]

If they can get the magic back form teh old IC-7 Max2/3 days, I'd be all over them like a cheap suit. Cmon Abit. Step it up.

[hokiealumnus]

Is abit done with nvidia chipsets?

I wouldn't really blame them if they were. AFAIK, all nVidia will let people do is rebrand reference boards. Were it my company, that would be immensely frustrating. Plus, you're putting your good name on someone else's product with little-to-no control over its production. Bad juju if you ask me.

Anyway, hi Dragon Lin! Great to know another soul from abit. :up:

[Glow9]

The rumors that were going around that Abits parent company is going to be canceling Abit mobos next year or what have you. What truth is there to this if any?

[hokiealumnus]

The rumors that were going around that Abits parent company is going to be canceling Abit mobos next year or what have you. What truth is there to this if any?

This rumor has been denounced by abit. (Source (http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=431742#post431742).)
Univeral abit denies quitting motherboard business after intel P45

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We managed to catch our PR contacts before they are off for the day. Their immediate reactions is that we should not believe in such rumours.

Thore Welling, Universal ABIT Global Marketing Director points out: “ abit is a well established and strong brand within the enthusiast and high-end motherboard and components industry. In fact, particularly over the past 12 months we have been able to considerably increase market share not only in traditional markets such as Western Europe, but even stronger so in emerging markets such as East Asia as well as in the Middle East. Therefore, the broadening of our product lines into the Consumer Electronics (digital photo frames with integrated photo printer {FunFab} and MIDs) segment represents a stronger commitment to the overall brand and the continuation of our motherboard concept into other products. abit stays committed to motherboards and has a broad lineup of motherboards ready, as you will see in during Computex.”
Thanks to Nelly for posting this @ the abit forums. Move along...nothing to see here. :D

[Glow9]

I'm glad, finally found another board manufacturer I like I'd hate to see them go. Didn't seem like they would cut them short considering the success of recent Abit Boards.

How about; Whats going to set them apart from the other guys in terms of Nehalem boards. Recently we've been seeing more and more cookie cutter reference boards and the only differences being heat sinks between some companies. As Abit fans we expect a quality innovation whats instore or what are some obvious things right off the bat to notice? (Dont want them giving away any secrets or anything)

[boogle]

I wouldn't really blame them if they were. AFAIK, all nVidia will let people do is rebrand reference boards. Were it my company, that would be immensely frustrating. Plus, you're putting your good name on someone else's product with little-to-no control over its production. Bad juju if you ask me.

Nah works slightly differently. Manufacturers have a choice: Chipset only (make your own board), or Reference board. The reference board option is used to companies who can't be bothered / don't have the resources to make their own board. They basically receive the mobo pre-built like a graphics card, and they place their own stickers over the NV ones.

[hokiealumnus]

Nah works slightly differently. Manufacturers have a choice: Chipset only (make your own board), or Reference board. The reference board option is used to companies who can't be bothered / don't have the resources to make their own board. They basically receive the mobo pre-built like a graphics card, and they place their own stickers over the NV ones.

Oh ok, thanks for the info. I knew that was how it was with the older chipsets, but I had heard they only allowed reference boards with the 790i. :doh:

[DoObs]

riptide;3045174']If they can get the magic back form teh old IC-7 Max2/3 days, I'd be all over them like a cheap suit. Cmon Abit. Step it up.

I've got one of these boards (MAX3) on my Shelf, but im afraid the one IC (Near the dimm slots) popped two days ago.......

I dont think theses boards were that good when it came to this problem from what ive read on various forums and guys having this same problem, but times have changed since then.

Ampt to see what they bring out tho

[safan80]

Did you ask about Abit leaving the market?

[SaFrOuT]

Did you ask about Abit leaving the market?

read below

This rumor has been denounced by abit. (Source (http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=431742#post431742).)

Thanks to Nelly for posting this @ the abit forums. Move along...nothing to see here. :D

[loonym]

Oh ok, thanks for the info. I knew that was how it was with the older chipsets, but I had heard they only allowed reference boards with the 790i. :doh:One good example of non-reference version is asus S2E. Then there are the yet to be released foxconn, msi, and possibly gigabyte versions.

[Glow9]

How about asking them if they have any cool stickers or keychains or crap like that they could send me lol

[chatmaster]

I like the offerings from Abit, awesome performance at a great price.

I just wish they would be quicker to market with thier products, and a little more support wouldnt go astray.

[kiwi]

Where's new NF7 :D

[Chewbenator]

If I had waited for P35 I would have gotten the IP35pro, awesome board from what I've heard and at a great price point. You get a ton of features at a cheap price and they overclock very well. They were still just out of the gates when Conroe came out, but it looks like they have reestablished themselves as a competitive manufacturer. Can't wait to see what they have in store for Nehalem.

[situman]

First Fatality, now Dragon. Hopefully this guy will have more substance. I don't see what's wrong with using your real name, unless his real name is Dragon. I find nicknames tacky and if things don't go well (Fatality), you just end up looking like an Idiot (Fatality).

[Polizei]

riptide;3045174']If they can get the magic back form teh old IC-7 Max2/3 days, I'd be all over them like a cheap suit. Cmon Abit. Step it up.

Or a cheap something else... ;)

On a serious note... I'm liking the looks of the Abit P45 series, maybe they can get some good BIOS for it.

[[XC] riptide]

I've got one of these boards (MAX3) on my Shelf, but im afraid the one IC (Near the dimm slots) popped two days ago.......

I dont think theses boards were that good when it came to this problem from what ive read on various forums and guys having this same problem, but times have changed since then.

Ampt to see what they bring out tho

That means you're going to hell for breaking it! :shocked: ;)

The board had many documents IC's going bust, but many were due to extreme overclocking of Intels Montrously Hot and powerhungry Socket 478 Prescotts, Gallitins, and to a less extend, Northwoods.

[rockfella]

Does that mean ABIT will not launch their P45 boards?

[hokiealumnus]

Does that mean ABIT will not launch their P45 boards?

Does what mean that? The rumor that they denounced? You probably missed this thread; have a read (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=190808).

[Wiggy McShades]

First Fatality, now Dragon. Hopefully this guy will have more substance. I don't see what's wrong with using your real name, unless his real name is Dragon. I find nicknames tacky and if things don't go well (Fatality), you just end up looking like an Idiot (Fatality).



Fatality was just a brand name for their motherboard, I believe this guy is actually one of their head engineers. At least if he's being compared to oskar over at dfi then that's what hes got to be.

[dctokyo]

This rumor has been denounced by abit. (Source (http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=431742#post431742).)

Thanks to Nelly for posting this @ the abit forums. Move along...nothing to see here. :D
If you really believe what abit says, then I have some nice beach front land in New Mexico for you. :rofl:

As I mention before on the abit forums, abit is dead here in Japan, no boards to be found anywhere.
Take a look at the IX48-Max, no wait..... there is no IX48-Max:rofl:, it was mention months ago that it would be out in 10 days :shakes: just like abit UK said that the IP45 Pro would be out by now. Where is it? mmmmmm let me quess...abit is going to say that their still teaking the BIOS..just like they said about the IX48-Max for the last 6 months:rofl:
I really love abit but it seems that they have given up on the market for mobo's

[Elementnz]

Fine boards expensive over here (New Zealand) till recently. NF7 wasn't good but RMA'd it and it ran like a champ till my DFI/NF4 days. Now happily back with the sig IP35PRO. Easy OC' and well featured mobo. A delight to work with. More is :up::up:

[ChuckM]

The IP45 Pro has at least made an appearence on their website, more than can be said for the 48. The IP35 Pro is getting harder to find, so I'll be getting the 35XE or the 45.

[Lestat]

riptide;3045174']If they can get the magic back form teh old IC-7 Max2/3 days, I'd be all over them like a cheap suit. Cmon Abit. Step it up.

you cant be serious, those were the worst boards ever.
and dont sit here and say they weren't.

if there was a general vote i can guarantee you that there were more dead crap boards than good ones. and not by a few either.

they couldn't even RMA with good boards. you sent broken in, you got broken back.


i just truly hope they are able to pull themselves out of the rutt they have been in for so many years.
i would hate to see their boards go any further south.

my only words of advise to Abit is PLEASE or PLEASE don't take the asus road.. NEVER put out 20 different boards all of which are pretty much the same dang thing.

and NO board EVER needs to be over 250 bucks.. ever. there just isnt a need for it. parts are so unbelievably cheap. and those are good parts too.
just stick with the cheap, mid and high end board for each chipset you design for.

dropping nvidia isnt really a great idea either as i think too many companies are simply throwing nvidia boards out there and not doing the amount of R&D as they are with the intel ones in terms of bios code and stability.

i mean how can you miss constant sata corruption. (680i) (650i didnt)
how can you miss video corruption and other issues (7xxi series)

stop, think about the hardware, design it as if you had to own one and deal with pi$$ poor design and layout, and code it lik you would want it coded...
and when the guys upstairs say no... well,.,, is that the company you really want to work for ?

oh and my last words,, USE A DANG FAN ON THE NB!!!! STOP with the heat-pipe and passive NB cooling.
a 10 cent 50mm fan is all it takes to cool a NB down to a level of which allows for higher clocking and helps everything function better.

[Heidfirst]

just like abit UK said that the IP45 Pro would be out by now. Where is it?
on the original estimate which was since revised ...
it'll be here.

[strange|ife]

glad to hear Abit is still on board! Now they just need to get some new boards out

ip35pro was a life saver for them imo

and i agree with Lestat no board should be over 200 bucks

server board prices on enthusiast platforms is insane.

[Nelly]

I've got a question for Dragon Lin regarding motherboard design.

How about releasing a special watercooling MAX version of one or two of your motherboards?

One with the normal Abit Silent OTES heatpipes, another with separated cooling blocks, to make it easier for people who wish to watercool or infact go one step further than DFI & Asus & ship with blocks that watercool the PWMS, Northbridge, Southbridge? at an additional cost of course to give customers that very option. :yepp:

If not you could always sell waterblock kits for the PWM's/Northbridge/Southbridge & also sell Cooling Block with Fans for what I mentioned.

I think alot of people would be interested if they could give superior cooling & increase overclocks.

Also how about not using push pin bolts? use screws to lock down the blocks on your motherboards? people have modified the Abit IP35 Pro with bolt/screws to good effect reducing temps.

[Heidfirst]

How about releasing a special watercooling MAX version of one or two of your motherboards?

One with the normal Abit Silent OTES heatpipes, another with separated cooling blocks, to make it easier for people who wish to watercool or infact go one step further than DFI & Asus & ship with blocks that watercool the PWMS, Northbridge, Southbridge? at an additional cost of course to give customers that very option. :yepp:
twice as many SKUs for both abit & their customers to make/stock.

If not you could always sell waterblock kits for the PWM's/Northbridge/Southbridge & also sell Cooling Block with Fans for what I mentioned.
I think that this has more potential given that many of the mobos share e.g. common PWM design so 1 kit could potentially cover several mobos.
Of course then abit might be in competition with the retail sales of the company(ies) that they buy the blocks from.