NF7-S rev2.X, Why flash to bios v10 ???

[BoGuS]

Why would any want to flash to version 10 bios, to get a few fsb extra ?, i can only imagine that it would be for benching, cuz for everyday use it sucks.... much better to have all the corrections of the new bios's and clock it down a few Mhz... and is the data curruption even worth it ?... i think not..

I'm a believer of a 100% stable and problem free system, and in my book a system with problems is not a 100% stable system, so bios 10 is crap in my book..

all my systems are 100% stable and with the latest updates, and i dont run win2k just to get the extra pt in benchmarks, and yes my systems aint as "pumped" as it could be, but it works!

everything isn't benching... :O)

just my 2 cent on the bios version debate....

B/

[st0nedpenguin]

I think you will probably find that most people only use 1.0 for benching, and have their system set up with a nice stable overclock for general use, that's what I do anyway.

[thetruememphis]

Originally posted by BoGuS

everything isn't benching... :O)


B/ :eek: AHHHHHH you said some bad words!! I use v10 on my abit and i never expirenced harddrive corruption or anyother flaw in the bios(altough i'll admit to you that im not running serial ata in any way, or shape) If i ran serial ata i would probally update my bios. But To say Everything isn't benching.... :eek: To some people it is.. (and most people on this site IE: XTREMESYSTEMS) if i was to worried about stability all the time why hang out in a placed for people trying to max their cpu's motherboards, videocards.. Because i'll tell you one thing right now. Every point counts, and every up of your fsb counts as well.

EVERYTHING IS BENCHING... to me at least....


:stick:

[Zeus]

Erm, this XtremeSystems right?
Don't mean to offend you, but i think it's better to start a thread like this on Abit forums or so. :stick:

I'm working my ass off trying to find what's holding my FSB overclock back and if bios d10 helps me i'll flash it, period!:p:

Off course for 24/7 use i'm not using max settings. ;)

[BoGuS]

Yellow people..., im not a total stupid ass...., but is'nt this all about being able to max your system out to the max for everyday use, and not just to impress with a few mhz ??
Damm you people get quickly pissed.. *lol*...
why not try to find the ultimate setting 4 everyday use instead ? what i have seen is people with cheap cpus trying to get total wacked speeds, why not just use the money on a better cpu instead ?.., now thats reason! :O)
i'm one with a cheap cpu cuz i can't afford the newest on the branch, and the 1700 does just as good as some of the higher clocked does.. humm totaly besides the point...

why spend alot of $$ on OC equipment when you can by some better hardware instead..

sorry to say, but i find it a petty, if this forum is all about benching ?, i thought that it was about getting some real wacked ideas and see them come true.., it is 4 me anyway so i still say "Benching is'nt everything!" :O)

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[st0nedpenguin]

what i have seen is people with cheap cpus trying to get total wacked speeds, why not just use the money on a better cpu instead ?.., now thats reason! :O)

i'm one with a cheap cpu cuz i can't afford the newest on the branch, and the 1700 does just as good as some of the higher clocked does.. humm totaly besides the point...

I'll avoid the fact that you have answered your own question there. :D

Primarily because I don't have the money for a faster CPU, 3200+ = £300+, 2500+ = £70+, you do the math.
Plus, if I was to buy a 3200+, it would probably overclock no higher than a 2500+, so what's the point in wasting the money when that money could be spent on decent cooling or better RAM to get even better overclocks?

Overclocking is pointless without benching surely?
Without it how can you quantify the value of your overclock?

And I do have a stable setting for everyday use, but I'm still going to keep tweaking away, if I didn't then how would I have found the settings I'm running with now?

[2fast4u]

I have the solution to make everyone happy! Run the "bios saviour" like me and you can switch back and forth between your "totaly whacked out overclock bios 10" and your "everyday ho hum 18 bios" CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?

[Zeus]

Right, let me put it this way:
If i buy a Porsche (if i can afford one off course) i know it will do150mph, agree?
Now if i buy a Honda Civic for instance (wich i can afford) and make it run as fast as the Porsche or even faster, who's a clever boy then?

Like i said, never meant to offend you...each to their own. ;)

[st0nedpenguin]

Originally posted by 2fast4u
I have the solution to make everyone happy! Run the "bios saviour" like me and you can switch back and forth between your "totaly whacked out overclock bios 10" and your "everyday ho hum 18 bios" CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?

Pats the BIOS Saviour whilst grinning...

Flicks the switch a few times, ah, 1.6/1.0, happiness is here...

:D

[SAE]

I for myself always run my graphics card, for example, at its max. Artifact free, you know :D

If it cannot stand it, it dies. So, rma time... as usual ;)


Acc. to board/fsb/cpu mhz:
If I find a gaming stable speed, not dropping me back to desktop when I just managed a part of the game I never got through before (not being able to save the game before that) :banana: , I 'll go it all the time. For benching I would try to up the settings a bit again. :cool:

It's Xtreme, not only for the screenie but for all the time you do anything with ya rig ;)

[Garrett]

Originally posted by Zeus
Erm, this XtremeSystems right?
Don't mean to offend you, but i think it's better to start a thread like this on Abit forums or so. :stick:

I'm working my ass off trying to find what's holding my FSB overclock back and if bios d10 helps me i'll flash it, period!:p:

Off course for 24/7 use i'm not using max settings. ;) I couldn't have said it better :)

I flashed back to version 10 because I can now access all the MP's on my cpu if I select higher FSB than 200 :)

Ah well... some of us are real tweakers and some are not ;)

[thetruememphis]

Originally posted by Garrett

Ah well... some of us are real tweakers and some are not ;)
:toast: took the words out of my mouth:toast:

[kromosto]

then any adive for p4p800 which bios is best :) dont tell me 1011.002 lol i am a victim of it

[BoGuS]

keep your filty intel 4 your selfe... :O)

[Nebulous]

Zeus hit the nail on the head. What I like is the rich kids who's parents give them all this money, then they go and buy the fastest pre-built rigz, then start popping that yang about how fast their systems are:rolleyes: That to me ain't tru overclocking, or knowing all the ins and outs of evry part in your system down to the last screw.

To be a true dragracer, you build your car from the ground up, not buy a a prebuilt and swear up and down you the king.

I know evryone here builds their rigz from scratch and know evry intricate detail and if there's a problem, we already know what to do. if not we'll find someone who does and share the knowledge.

I run my rigz oc'ed to the max 24/7. I don't do that "oc it to just bench, then drop it back again to stock" crap. I'm hardcore, period! This site is called EXTREME because it means just that, taking your rig beyond what it can do. To go extreme.

I've learned a helluva lot oc'ing and finding out about parts, weaknesses and strengths, and lemme tell ya, i have fun doin it!

Can i get an Amen

-N-:D

[kromosto]

amen

[Stepper]

I've got a grip of systems...ok...maybe not a grip...but 6 of em...an a *'69 Camaro I bought new...
The point...I afford myself the toys that I want...when I want em...the way I want em...end of story...

Oh yea...I got a job too!

*Not a daily driver...I've got a few other vehicles for that...

Jus my $0.02

[BoGuS]

Your twisting my words !.., i'm not against OC at all, hell i have been OC'ing on PC's since my first system "P1 166Mhz", and i can garanti you that i'm no rich boy... and yes i do it because i like it and i can get more juice out of my system, hell if i had more money to spend i would OC anyway... i think that i am just a "balanced" OC'er in the state that i find a middle way, i won't give anything for a few mhz extra, but if there is a serius advantage i will do it, if the price is right...

Garret:

"Ah well... some of us are real tweakers and some are not"

how lame was that remark anyway ?, what do you know of what i am...., come on!!
and 4 your information, i'm gonna mod my ti42 with some new ram, as some one else on this forum has done and btw i did'nt get the idea from him, just did'nt had the time when i got the idea, and now i'm busy rebuilding my apartment etc....

I started this thread because of the many people who will sacrifice things like data corruption for a few Mhz, i i think thats wack!.... so critisise me all you want, but thats just plain stupid.... and i'm not talking about "just wanna check it out" but people who will actualy run there systems that way..

and i also run my system to the max for 24/7 use...


pyhhh, what a reply... *lol*

B/

[Zeus]

Your last post seems to put you in the right frame after all. :D
Swapping RAM on a vid card is what i call Xtreme...:banana:

[Garrett]

BoGuS don't take it so personal man...jeez...

I never meant to offend anyone ok?
Didn't you see the " ;) smilie " after the sentence?

And I don't think my remark was lame, at least some of you should agree on that ;)

There is no reason not to try different Bios versions to see which one overclocks better, it's simply a matter of trying... period :)

And for the 'new ram mod', post some pics will ya... preferably pre- and post-modded :D

[BoGuS]

Garrett:

about the mod;
sure will..., but as i was saying i'm currently rebuilding my apartment, and thats gonna take some time, but you can bet that when i get the spare time that i will post some pictures.. ohh ya!!.., and frankly i'm looking forward to doing it.., but the mis's aint that happy with me modding when we have the whole house in a wreck ya know.. *lol*... but in a month or so i guess the mod will be well on its way, the only problem is that i only have one digi cam and that suck mayor.. only 640 x 480 according to my memory.... but i guess that will have to do, and perhaps i can borrow a cam from my mom, but thats not sure... well i wil get back on that anyway...


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[Mickey Padge]

If you look here :
http://www.amdforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=256530

You will see info on a modded version of the d10 BIOS that fixes sata corruption :)
I am using it myself and it works !
I have 2 Raptors in Raid 0 and have had no problems . I sent the BIOS to a few helpfull people at amdmb forums and they confirmed it fixes the sata issue with the d10 BIOS .
Have a look if your interested :)
Cheers

[Zeus]

Originally posted by Mickey Padge
If you look here :
http://www.amdforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=256530

You will see info on a modded version of the d10 BIOS that fixes sata corruption :)
I am using it myself and it works !
I have 2 Raptors in Raid 0 and have had no problems . I sent the BIOS to a few helpfull people at amdmb forums and they confirmed it fixes the sata issue with the d10 BIOS .
Have a look if your interested :)
Cheers

Excuse me...modded version of bios d10?
Have to take a look right away...thanks! :D

[BoGuS]

NICE....
Well now thats a whole other story..., i have a looksee and if it works i'm on the version 10 bios also.. :O)

Then something good did came out of this post after all *lol*

B/

[SAE]

I got my modified d10 bios and tried it out immediately ;)

But having problems with my twinmos anyway... :(

Will stick with 14beta or 18 now.

[BoGuS]

Yaa.., acording to the users of this bios, its not completly stable yet, all though people are experiencing different kind of issues, but haven't tryed it yet, but i think i will stick with my current bios version 18 though...

B/

[Dagalidis]

Why d10 BIOS ????
http://users.in.gr/dagalidis/assets/246fsbb.jpg

http://users.in.gr/dagalidis/assets/50k300.jpg

This is all i want to get and i HAVE IT with d10 BIOS....... 100% Stable at all..... :banana:

[Marci]

why not try to find the ultimate setting 4 everyday use instead

Done that, got bored. I use it for benching cos I choose to, and because I choose to bench. For no other reason.

When I'm not benching I flash back to b16... when benching back to b10. Using SATA and not a single corruption problem so far.

[BoGuS]

Marci:

why don't you use the bios version 18 instead of version 16 ?, is there something i'm missing ?

i say it again.... i dont care much for nice screenies..., but everyday use is my game... :O)


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[st0nedpenguin]

Originally posted by BoGuS
Marci:

why don't you use the bios version 18 instead of version 16 ?, is there something i'm missing ?B/

The same reason I use it I would imagine, Marci tested the available BIOS' and found that the 1.6 BIOS gave more accurate temperature readings than the others, and it also doesn't suffer from the rising temperature problem, and as an added bonus, it's the most stable BIOS version I have tested.