Internal Watercooling in P182 - Advice Appreciated

[inCore]

UPDATE: WORKLOG CAN BE FOUND ON PAGE 2.




Hello everybody,

I'm planning my first watercooling build and it's gonna be done right - the Swiss way. :p: I will only be cooling my CPU, GPU is being cooled by an Arctic Cooling Accelero S1. The case (Antec P182) will be modded so that everything is internal.

First off, here's my list of things that are going to be ordered, unless somebody has objections:



Pump: Laing DDC-Pump 12V DDC-1T http://www.aquatuning.de/product_info.php/info/p456_Laing-DDC-Pumpe-12V-DDC-1T.html

A good pump, supposed to be silent too.


Radiator: Thermochill PA120.2 Dual Radiator G3/8 http://www.aquatuning.de/product_info.php/info/p1748_Thermochill-PA120-2-Dual-Radiator-G3-8.html

Fit for the future, no need for anything bigger for a good while.


Tubing: Tygon R-3400 3/8" http://www.aquatuning.de/product_info.php/info/p3153_Schlauch-Tygon-R3400-9-6-6-4mm-schwarz.html

I'm using 3/8" tubing on purpose, it's how we Europeans do it. No need for American muscle V8, if a Flat-six can do it just as well ;)


Block: DangerDen TDX http://www.aquatuning.de/product_info.php/info/p2067_DangerDen-TDX-CPU-Cooler-Intel-Sockel-775.html

I could get a FuZion too but seeing as I will feel like an idiot for buying an expensive block and I decide to buy a Nehalem, I'm budgeting this one.



The radiator will be cooled by 2 x Aerocool Turbine 2000s, really silent fans with LEDs - how pretty it's gonna be :p:

The list of my hardware:

CPU: E8400 @ 3.85 GHz with 1.40 V - Yes, I know, crappy CPU.
GPU: EVGA 8800 GTS 512 G92 - Getting RMAd but it's gonna be back in action
RAM: Mushkin XP2-8500 2 x 2 GB
MB: Gigabyte P35-DS3R Rev 2.1
Case: Antec P182
Soundcard: X-Fi Fatal1ty XtremeGamer

As mentioned, everything will be internal. This means that I have to do some modding to the case and I'm planning to make 2 windows - one in the motherboard area and one by the radiator at the bottom. I've planned it out using two cereal packets that I've glued together and cut holes in. I was out of other materials at the time, don't worry, the final result will look professional (hopefully) and all the cables will be moved away.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/WindowPic1.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/WindowPic2.jpg

The pump will be put in the 5.25" bay area and the radiator at the bottom.

Any suggestions? I'm eager to get this started but I will not rush things - I firmly believe that he who buys cheaply buys more than once.

Thanks, looking forward to the replies.

[lokitexas]

I like it. Did you measure already? Where is the res going?

[Max Spain]

If you don't want to use a res, you could always go with a T-line.

[Solidsnake666]

I've been modding my P182 and adding watercooling. Getting close to finish now and i must say it's looking good. went with the rad outside though. I'm interested in seeing the outcome of your project. Subscribed!

Btw I'd suggest spending the extra few bucks and getting the MC-TDX instead of the regular tdx

[b@llz0r]

personally id go for the "Laing DDC-Pumpe 12V DDC-1Plus"

for 18 more euro u get 180 more L/m!!!

[inCore]

If you don't want to use a res, you could always go with a T-line.

I like it. Did you measure already? Where is the res going?

I forgot to ask about the res, any suggestions? It's going above the pump, on top of the DVD drive. I have heard that 5.25" bay reservoirs can be loud so I am looking for something else, somethign small.

I've been modding my P182 and adding watercooling. Getting close to finish now and i must say it's looking good. went with the rad outside though. I'm interested in seeing the outcome of your project. Subscribed!

Btw I'd suggest spending the extra few bucks and getting the MC-TDX instead of the regular tdx

Thanks, I'll get the other block then. I simply don't want stuff hanging off my case. :p:



personally id go for the "Laing DDC-Pumpe 12V DDC-1Plus"

for 18 more euro u get 180 more L/m!!!

I am only cooling the CPU so I don't think that I will need a stronger pump. Also, the block is, as far as I know, not a high-restriction block, meaning I don't need a nuclear warhead propelling the water through the loop.

[Solidsnake666]

As far as a res I have the MCRES-MICRO (http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmchire.html) It's about 2 and 1/2 cd-rom drives tall to give you an idea on height. If you're not set on having your res in the bays with the pump you could always put it somewhere to display it more.

You're better off with the MC-TDX since it's made for multicore cpu's. You'll be happier with the performance. Although I can't say for sure if that pump will be enough (although i think it should be) I think it. The mc-tdx from what i have read is pretty low-restriction.

[airs]

Rad isn't internal but might give you some ideas:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=152654

[ownage]

The P180/P182 isn't an easy case for watercooling. You can look for ideas in the P180 case gallery @ hardforum.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1186892&page=53

[Tw1st3d]

Here is how i did it

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=183018&highlight=small+antec+p182+mod

and some older one's

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5531/lalxm2.jpg

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6434/pc2sp5.jpg

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/3239/wateryp182noflastts2.jpg

[Solidsnake666]

Here's mine if you want to check it out
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=188076 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=188076)

[inCore]

The P180/P182 isn't an easy case for watercooling. You can look for ideas in the P180 case gallery @ hardforum.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1186892&page=53

Thanks for the tip, I never saw that thread on Hardforum. They have some good ideas and all of them seem to do something different to what I'm about to try - which is good.

Here is how i did it

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=183018&highlight=small+antec+p182+mod

and some older one's
*pics*

That's quite extreme, I'm trying my best not to destroy some of the case's features, but I'm sure that works well. I'm also doing my best to make it look like it could have come stock like this, when I'm done modding.

As far as a res I have the MCRES-MICRO (http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmchire.html) It's about 2 and 1/2 cd-rom drives tall to give you an idea on height. If you're not set on having your res in the bays with the pump you could always put it somewhere to display it more.

You're better off with the MC-TDX since it's made for multicore cpu's. You'll be happier with the performance. Although I can't say for sure if that pump will be enough (although i think it should be) I think it. The mc-tdx from what i have read is pretty low-restriction.

I'm not set for anything as such, I will be using clear water though and I think the reservoir looks the best when it's tucked into some corner somewhere, lit up by some lights perhaps, but not stealing the show. That's why I've been looking a bit at bay reservoirs. But thanks for the height comparison, don't think that'll fit in mine.

Do reservoirs have to be a certain size to help at all? I found this small cute thing :p:: http://www.aquatuning.de/product_info.php/info/p752_-mini-f-r-Shuttle--und-andere-Barebones.html

That would fit almost anywhere, question is if it's a waste of money.

The pump should be fine, according to the sticky where they have pump recommendations. At least I think it's this pump that they are talking about.

Rad isn't internal but might give you some ideas:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=152654

I really like the look of black insides of cases, maybe that'll become a project one day.

Here's mine if you want to check it out
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=188076 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=188076)

Like the others already said in your thread, that looks very clean. I can see what you mean by putting the reservoir somewhere else, I'd just prefer it more out of sight personally.


I'm probably going to order the parts this week, have three more physics papers for my finals and then I'm done with school forever :p: I'll start modifying the case on Thursday and I'll keep a worklog if anybody is interested.

[melanko]

Those cases are a pain to water cool, but they do have great features for Air Cooling.

Nice side panel too. Love the Tape and Cardboard look.

[inCore]

I agree, good stuff for air cooling, but the holes at the back for tubing are just an excuse to make it seem more watercooling friendly. And thanks for the kind words about my side panel, shows what else cereal packets are useful for. :p:

I'm ordering tomorrow I think. Any word on the reservoir? Is this thing useless: http://www.aquatuning.de/product_info.php/info/p752_-mini-f-r-Shuttle--und-andere-Barebones.html ?

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/752_0.jpg

[Solidsnake666]

Any news? i'm waiting to see how this turns out :)

[LsdBoy]

http://pici.se/thumbs/t_otvvXFeaw.gif (http://pici.se/267778)
This is a crappy pick when I'm running a leak test. The rig isen't finished. I need to fasten my pums on to the case, by some 90degree bends so i can run som tubing from my fillports and do alot of other mods before I'n finished.
My rigg:
Antec 180b
Asus striker extreme
E6750
2x1gb corsair dominator pc8500
2x400gb samsung hardrives
2x500gb samsung hardrives
1x74gb rator in a scyte silent maxx case
2x6800gs @ sli
X-fi extreme music
5xnoctua sf12 @ 7v

Watercooling:
Loop1:
Lain ddc 3.2 + EK-DDC X-RES 140
EK Supreme LGA 775 Mounting Plate
LGA 775 Waterblock Backplate
EK Supreme acetal
2xAlphacool nexxus 3
mcr320
Acetalfillport
Feser One - UV Black

Loop2:
Lain ddc 3.2 + EK-DDC X-RES 140
2 x EK-NB/SB ASUS 1 Acetal
2 x EK-Mosfet ASUS 3a (X38) Acetal
2 x Chilled PC Mosfet Backplate
BIpro 120
Acetalfillport
Feser One - UV Black

[Solidsnake666]

Looks a bit messy :( Hope you're planning on cleaning it up too

[Lloyd]

i think i would have the rad in the roof a 120.2 grill fits on the top of mine (in front of the rear top fan) and have a alphacool plexi top + res in the hd bay. i think that'll keep everything nice and tidy.
But i'd defo buy a Fuzion - but i'm bias, lol

[Solidsnake666]

i think i would have the rad in the roof a 120.2 grill fits on the top of mine (in front of the rear top fan) and have a alphacool plexi top + res in the hd bay. i think that'll keep everything nice and tidy.
But i'd defo buy a Fuzion - but i'm bias, lol

I have mine on top, but because I used a triple I could not put the rad inside. A double like that doesn't seem like it would be a problem. It wold just take up more drive bays inside.

The fuzion is fairly close in performance to the MC-TDX. The main difference that I've seen is the MC-TDX is a lot less restricting

[Lloyd]

@ Solidsnake666 - sweet :) you have the special edition too
I have one in my bedroom with an AMD X2 5200, ASUS M2N32 SLI Deluxe, EVGA SC 7950 GX2, 4GB XMS26400. So when i'm up there i'm always looking at it, thinking of ways to hack it up, lol
Though the door broke within the first couple of hours - big thumbs up to Antec - they got a new door to me with in 3 days (i emailed them for the last time on the friday and the door was here on the tuesday) i was well impressed with their customer service! :)
I bought a holesaw to do my Akasa Eclipse's - my P182 is up for the chop soon.

As for DD i was put off by the quality of the DD 8800GTX block i bought, the copper didn't look finished - it never even got installed. So now i steer clear - EK or D-Tek for me, just got a D-Tek Fuzion v2 for my new akasa eclipse build, i can't wait to test it out

[Solidsnake666]

It's actually not the Special Edition P182. I was thinking about getting it but decided on the regular gun metal P182.

As for danger den I've never gotten a bad block from them. Although a friend of mine got one with a missing gasket and they had a new block to him the next day. I don't have a problem with them.

Haven't looked into the Fuzion v2yet. I'd like to see how that performs.

[Lloyd]

i think i need to get my eyes checked again, lol
The DD thing - i was tempted to try one of the new blocks, but i'd already bought 4 Fuzions for my systems.
The 8800GTX block from DD the copper was finished to the same standard as their cpu blocks or EKs 8800GTX blocks, but i would like to do a back 2 back comparision myself of the fuzion and the TDX-MC

[FrogBite]

pics pls.

[Solidsnake666]

pics pls.

Pics of what? the fuzion and MC-TDX?

[FrogBite]

Pics of InCore´s build.

[Solidsnake666]

Pics of InCore´s build.

That's what I was hoping to see. And he still hasn't answered my question about cutting the side panel :down:

:stick: Are you alive inCore???

[inCore]

Writing up a build log as we speak, have many pictures to go with it. Thanks for the interest.

[Solidsnake666]

Nice! Looking forward to it.

[inCore]

I started this morning by outlining the cutting with tape. I measured the sides carefully to "measure twice and cut once". I decided to make it different than most people when they make windows in the P182, and outlined two windows, just like I had experimented with the cardboard wall previously.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/Picture2.jpg

The walls, as you probably know, are made of three layers. Two layers of aluminum and a layer of plastic. I found that the aluminum was quite thin and the jigsaw that I used had a blade made for plastic and cut through it with ease. The inner layer of aluminum comes off really easily too, if you wish to take it off. Antec has fastened it with double-sided tape and it simply peels off if you apply enough force.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/Picture3.jpg

The jigsaw left quite a lot of small pieces of plastic and metal around so you have to be careful when cutting to make sure that you stay in a straight line.

Whilst I was at it, I planned for my watercooling set up and removed all of the things found in the bay at the bottom. That includes the fan in the middle which always annoyed me, and the hard drive rack that you can slide out. All of these were held in place with small metal screw-like pieces that you simply have to hit out with the help of a hammer and screwdriver by putting the screw driver underneath the head and hitting hard.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/Picture4.jpg

Here you can see the finished holes with the bottom chamber cleaned up - a lot more space is available now.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/Picture5.jpg

The Plexiglas and the mesh that I had chosen were fastened in different ways. The Plexiglas was attached using double-sided tape, which holds surprisingly well and shows no intention of coming off. The mesh was attached with a combination of Epoxy and silicon, as I didn't have the patience to wait for the silicon to dry :p: Here's me and a friend (I'm on the left) and the weights that were used to hold down mesh as it was drying.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/Picture6.jpg

That's it, how to make a window for a P182. Here are some pictures with it attached:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/Picture7.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/Case1.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/Case2.jpg

I may still put a rubber edge by the window to make it smoother, but I think it's fine considering that it was cut with a jigsaw.

I'm now going to order the watercooling parts, I'll keep you all posted :up:

[FrogBite]

sexy :clap: :shocked:

Your graphics card looks so pathetic :P

[inCore]

sexy :clap: :shocked:

Your graphics card looks so pathetic :P


Haha thanks. It does indeed, just waiting for EVGA to send me a new one ;)

Any idea if I can change the thread title to something more fitting?

[Lloyd]

Looks great mate! Very nice indeed
The reason i said install the rad in the roof was because when i had my HDs in the compartment you have, it was VERY tight plugging them in as my 7950GX2 was VERY close to the HDs. So i moved them into the bottom compartment as soon as i could be bothered.
I think Antec should of had those drive bays vertical - the same as the bottom ones - might have helped a bit!

[inCore]

Thanks!

I know what you mean, I'm gonna end up modding the drive bay I think. I mounted the HDs backwards already to avoid any cables mess, but I think I'll make some additional mounting holes tomorrow. A lot of the stuff has potential but isn't suited for watercooling as it is.

[Lloyd]

Yeah, you can defo do alot with this case, but it takes alot of time, thought and effort (not that, that is a bad thing)
I think i'd try and mount a hd bay behind the rad, if you would like a hd cage i have 3 spare from Akasa Eclipses (the ones that mount under the PSU) i think one of those would fit nicely, you'd just need to work out how to mount it

[Solidsnake666]

Now I wish I had a jig saw... Those windows look awesome! Any chance you wanna come to New Jersey and help me cut mine? :D

Idk if i even want to try cutting it with a dremel now :shrug:

[inCore]

Now I wish I had a jig saw... Those windows look awesome! Any chance you wanna come to New Jersey and help me cut mine? :D

Idk if i even want to try cutting it with a dremel now :shrug:


Haha, I would if I could :p: And thank you.

You could try with the dremel, the metal itself is quite thin. If you have a proper bigger blade then you should be fine I suppose, it's just not so easy getting a straight cut I imagine.

Now, to an update:

First off, I ordered my watercooling. I purchased the following parts:


Radiator: Thermochill P120.2
Block: DangerDen MC-TDX
Pump: Laing DDC-1T
Tubing: Tygon R3400
Reservoir: Tecnofront Flow Trap


And then of course some other things, like fans, a shroud, etc.


Secondly, I modified the drive cage. Thanks Lloyd for reminding me about the space available, I now remember why I didn't originally put the drives up there.

I started off the day with the drives reversed like this:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/Picture9.jpg

First thing that I did was take off the plastic rails and put them on at a 90 degree angle.

From this:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/Picture10-1.jpg

To this:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/Picture10-2.jpg

I did this to all of the four rails and put them back on using superglue plus the screws. I made some holes in the side spontaneously without any accurate measurements, just to get some airflow from the fan located at the front of the case. I'll make these holes bigger some time soon when I receive the watercooling, this is just temporary.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/Picture13.jpg

I used a Dremel to make all of the holes, the other drills that I had available simply didn't have enough punch to go through the metal. The Dremel went through with ease when I set it to less than half effect.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/Picture14.jpg

Here's how the final result looks like:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/Picture11.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/Picture12.jpg

It's great because it removes all of the cables from where one can see them and once I get the watercooling, it'll all look extremely clean.

Stay tuned for more :p:

[Solidsnake666]

Wow that looks really good! I might have to try that. That's one thing I've hated about this case. that drive cage really should have been faced that way from the start!

I cut my window out and put it in with a jigsaw bought one just for it lol. It was a pain in the ass using the rubber molding. Should have gone with what you did. I did have one f**k up though and it's pissing me off:mad: I'll post pictures later and maybe you or someone will have an idea to fix it... I hope :(

[inCore]

Yeah, it's a good idea to turn it around. Only thing is the airflow, the drives are slightly warmer than before I think. One of them is 34 degrees Celsius, the other is 42. I really need to make the holes bigger and the fan at the front work, for some reason it's not spinning.

Go ahead and post some pics, I need something to think about whilst I wait for my watercooling :p:

[[XC] NetburstXE]

I like the way turned the HDDs. Also, your window mod looks quite good. However, definitely go for rubber edging at some point to make it even cooler looking.

[disruptfam]

window mod looks good need to clean it up a lil bit though you the sides aren't exactly straight.File the edges abit (of both cuts) and get some rubber edging as netburst said to hide any mistakes.Nice work mate

[inCore]

Thanks guys, I've looked into the rubber edging but I have yet to find some suitable rubber tubing or something that I can cut up.

My order arrived today, which is better than Christmas. On Christmas one gets all kinds of things which one doesn't want, such as socks etc. This order was great.

Here's what came:

Radiator:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/DSC00147.jpg

Shroud:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/DSC00149.jpg

Tubing:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/DSC00145.jpg

Reservoir:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/DSC00150.jpg

Connectors and adapters:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/DSC00155.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/DSC00156.jpg

Pump:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/DSC00158.jpg

Block:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/DSC00163.jpg

Now, I thought it might be a tight fit, but this was closer than I thought. The radiator has to be put in horizontally, then turned a bit, then flipped into a vertical position. I still have to figure out how to attach the shroud properly. :p: Also, the HDD cage that I turned isn't in properly in this picture so it's pushing down the divider in the case. Fear not - it shall be fixed.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/DSC00165.jpg

Here's where the pump and reservoir are going, any thoughts on overheating?

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/DSC00171.jpg

I will be gone on holiday for a week so I'll report back when I'm back.

[inCore]

Sorry for the long wait, I've been doing too much lately to post in my own little thread. I now have it all connected and running, even if it's not all completely done.

I also never got my 8800 GTS back, I instead had money refunded so I went to buy a 9800 GTX with the money instead.

Another problem that I've had is that I forgot to order the adapters for the Thermochill radiator. All of the other fittings fit perfectly, but I've been forced to play around with superglue, silicon and epoxy to get it to seal. The silicon that I had at first was horrible and leaked straight away. I covered the silicon with epoxy but this leaked too, the water somehow found it's way out along the silicon. I found that superglue is the perfect seal, until I receive my new fittings with the post.

Thank science for leak testing. :p:

Here are some pictures, keep in mind that this is not final and that it will be re-done once I receive the fittings.

First a closer shot of the CPU block, quite nice in my opinion.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/WCPIC3.jpg

The radiator and the shroud are at the bottom and the tubing copes really well with the tight-ish bends. Tygon R3400 is some good tubing. You might notice a few other things in this picture, such as the fact that the metal divider in the case is slightly bent. This is because I've taken the drive cage, which was originally found there, and turned it around a bit. The black plastic rails have been removed and it now houses the pump. The pump is held against the top of the cage with a rubber band and it rests against some foam. The fan at the front keeps it cool and there are no vibration noises to be heard. When I placed it where I originally planned to have it, the vibration noise was immense and I'm pleased with this. I just have to find a better way to ensure that it remains nice and alligned with the rest of the case.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/WCPIC1.jpg

Another shot of the block area.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/WCPIC2.jpg

Here you can barely see the hard drive, which I've mounted vertically in the 5.25" bays at the top. It's wedged between two pieces of foam which holds it nice and tight and makes it extremely easy to remove. When I have time I'm planning to make a more 'professional' version of this. This also enables me to pretty much hide the cables, and, if I want to, I can mount a fan at the front of the bays. I ditched a crappy Aerocool PowerWatch which did nothing and took up two slots.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x157/gLipgLipgLip/DSCF1175.jpg

I will be gone abroad for a while so it'll be quite some time until updates. Thanks for reading, I will return to my beloved thread some time. :p:

[xTKxhom3r]

wow it looks really good bro now all you need to do is put that card in the loop too ;)

[inCore]

Thanks! I have an Arctic Cooling Accelero S1 waiting for the card, which should be fine. It brought down my 8800 GTS' temperatures to 37 Idle / 52 Load so I'm pleased with that.

I have another problem though, my CPU temperatures are quite bad. I idle at 42 degrees (HWMonitor) and load is around 57 degrees. I only have the CPU in the loop and ambient is around 24 degrees. Any thoughts?

[Solidsnake666]

Thanks! I have an Arctic Cooling Accelero S1 waiting for the card, which should be fine. It brought down my 8800 GTS' temperatures to 37 Idle / 52 Load so I'm pleased with that.

I have another problem though, my CPU temperatures are quite bad. I idle at 42 degrees (HWMonitor) and load is around 57 degrees. I only have the CPU in the loop and ambient is around 24 degrees. Any thoughts?

What are you using to check temps? From the programs I've seen none of them can read the 45nm e8400's temp properly. Mine says it's a bit higher than yours (although mine on a bip120) and I know it's definitely not. I mean if it was that hot I'd feel more heat moving out the radiator.

[xTKxhom3r]

Thanks! I have an Arctic Cooling Accelero S1 waiting for the card, which should be fine. It brought down my 8800 GTS' temperatures to 37 Idle / 52 Load so I'm pleased with that.

I have another problem though, my CPU temperatures are quite bad. I idle at 42 degrees (HWMonitor) and load is around 57 degrees. I only have the CPU in the loop and ambient is around 24 degrees. Any thoughts?

what size of rad cpu block? how high is your oc? how about the vcore? have you tried reseating the block?

[Solidsnake666]

what size of rad cpu block? how high is your oc? how about the vcore? have you tried reseating the block?

Did you even read the thread??? Check out the OP it tells you all. But thats not going to help since pretty much all the programs out there don't show the temps correctly. from what I've seen on average they're about 10c off.

[inCore]

What are you using to check temps? From the programs I've seen none of them can read the 45nm e8400's temp properly. Mine says it's a bit higher than yours (although mine on a bip120) and I know it's definitely not. I mean if it was that hot I'd feel more heat moving out the radiator.

I used HWMonitor but CoreTemp naturally shows the same thing. RealTemp shows 32, as it always shows around 10 degrees less than the others.

what size of rad cpu block? how high is your oc? how about the vcore? have you tried reseating the block?

The rad is a PA120.2, a 2 x 120 mm. Supposed to be one of the best in that size. My E8400 is overclocked to 3.85 GHz and is running with a vCore of 1.410 idle and 1.392 load. It's a really bad CPU, I know. I haven't tried reseating the block yet, haven't had the time, and I won't for a few weeks now.

Annoying thing is that my Scythe Infinity (Mugen) gave me exactly the same idle temperatures with air cooling.

[ownage]

Hmm, i've seen some good solutions in this thread. Anyway, here's mine:
http://img.techpowerup.org/080620/case.jpg

[Solidsnake666]

My E8400 is overclocked to 3.85 GHz and is running with a vCore of 1.410 idle and 1.392 load. It's a really bad CPU, I know. I haven't tried reseating the block yet, haven't had the time, and I won't for a few weeks now.

I don't think any of these programs really don't show the temp correctly. I'm gonna use a temp probe when i get a chance to test the temps to see how close these programs actually read. This is on an EVGA mATX mobo (it's my second system) so I'm sure the temps on my system are even further off from what they really are.

[vblanche]

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/3239/wateryp182noflastts2.jpg
can I ask you where is the DVD drive in this setup? could you fit one at the top of the rad?

Are the front fans in push or pull?

finally, you have 4 rads, right?

Thanks, and great work here....:up:

[Tw1st3d]

can I ask you where is the DVD drive in this setup? could you fit one at the top of the rad?

Are the front fans in push or pull?

finally, you have 4 rads, right?

Thanks, and great work here....:up:

Yes there is space for a DVD drev if you have the barbs in the bottom. And how often do you use a dvd drive? (I have an external for windows installations)

Fans were pushed air inside the case.

Had 3 rad's in the once, 2 x 120 + 1 x 220

Also check this out http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=183018&highlight=small+antec+p182+mod