New System Build - Would like Suggestions!

[OpaGT]

hey peoples !

I'm currently going thru in building a new computer system ..

I was wondering if ya experts can lend a hand ..

Heres the build so far ... im open for changes !

Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80580Q9300 - Retail

GIGABYTE GA-EX38T-DQ6 LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ3RPR13334GK - Retail

EVGA 01G-P3-N816-AR GeForce 8800GT AKIMBO 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Antec NeoPower 650 Blue 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply - Retail

Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit English 1pk DSP OEI DVD - OEM

Total Cost - 1,650 @ newegg ..

What do ya think?

[zanzabar]

u need to change MB, look at the dfi x48 t3r or asus p5e3 something, gigabyte is bad

then change your ram, im rather sure that that isnt micron bassed

3rd change the psu that thing is trash, look to a corsair 750TX or pc power and cooling 750\

4th u need to swap the HDD look at a 640GB WD or a 320GB 7200.11 or 1TB samsung, dont waist money on a slow 500GB drive from the worst maker, if u want a 500 go samsung f1

[OpaGT]

u need to change MB, look at the dfi x48 t3r or asus p5e3 something, gigabyte is bad

then change your ram, im rather sure that that isnt micron bassed

3rd change the psu that thing is trash, look to a corsair 750TX or pc power and cooling 750\

4th u need to swap the HDD look at a 640GB WD or a 320GB 7200.11 or 1TB samsung, dont waist money on a slow 500GB drive from the worst maker, if u want a 500 go samsung f1

WOW .. lots of changes ..

Lookin at the DFI Boards .. the most expensive one listed is
DFI LP LT X48-T2R LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard
But .. looking at the specifications
it has
Memory Standard DDR2 800

While the giga one has DDR3 ?

.. Hmmm

[OpaGT]

OK so .. i changed the PSU .. to
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply - Retail

and i saw they have a combo deal so i switch the Graphics card to
EVGA 01G-P3-N891-AR GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB (512MB per GPU) 512-bit (256-bit per GPU) GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

And the HD To
SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD501LJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

What else u think ?

Now we are back to the Motherboard / Memory !

[Xel'Naga]

If you want to OC, the Q9300 is horrible. It has such a low multi that even with a FSB > 550 you will not get a decent speed.
I would recommends the E8400/E8500 if you don't need a quad or the Q6600.

[TedShred]

How 'bout that soon-to-be released FoxConn Blackops mobo?

[OpaGT]

If you want to OC, the Q9300 is horrible. It has such a low multi that even with a FSB > 550 you will not get a decent speed.
I would recommends the E8400/E8500 if you do need a quad or the Q6600.

So with the current setup .. this isnt gonna run PC Games Good ?

Im not a big fan of OCing :(

[TedShred]

Im not a big fan of OCing :(

Blackops mobo might not be the best choice then actually.

[horn_]

I don't know what site you're buying off but at overclockers at least, the AKIMBO card is more expensive than a GTS...

[OpaGT]

I don't know what site you're buying off but at overclockers at least, the AKIMBO card is more expensive than a GTS...

EVGA 01G-P3-N891-AR GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB - $529

EVGA 01G-P3-N809-AR GeForce 8800GT AKIMBO 1GB - $284


The 9800 is the most expensive video card these people sell!

[Xel'Naga]

So with the current setup .. this isnt gonna run PC Games Good ?

Im not a big fan of OCing :(

The CPU is good, but it will not OC that well. Since you are not a big fan of OCing, keep it

[myth8892]

Basically what he is saying, is that the Q9300 chip isn't worth it, If you do infact need a quad i would also go with the Q6600 chip over that, If you don't need a Quad chip go for the e8400.
You can still run games with the Q9300 fine but for what your paying for it, and it cannot OC worth a crap really, than either get the Q6600 or the e8400/e8500, if you go with one of the 8000 series chips, get the e8400 best performance for the buck.
And it can OC like nutz

[OpaGT]

The CPU is good, but it will not OC that well. Since you are not a big fan of OCing, keep it

What do you think about the motherboard ?

one guy seemed to hate gigabyte!

I used 2 of them before .. i liked it .. no biggie problems!

[OpaGT]

Ok let me switch this up

With A Budget of $1500-$2000 dolllars

Tell me what to get and ill go hunt it down :)

[Xel'Naga]

What do you think about the motherboard ?

one guy seemed to hate gigabyte!

I used 2 of them before .. i liked it .. no biggie problems!

Never owned a Gigabyte but have hear very good things about them. I wouldn't worry.

[zanzabar]

here is the board i was speeking of its $30more but it should be the best
http://www.motherboardpro.com/DFI-LanParty-UT-X48-T3R-DDR3-Motherboard-Chipset-X48-Crossfire-Ready-DFI-Motherboard-p-644.html

also for ram if u want 4GB ddr3 then, i would go for this gskill kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231167

im not sure on ur budget affter those but look at the samsung from here its the raid class server drive its a little faster and not much more
http://www.atacom.com/program/atacom.cgi?USER_ID=www&cart_id=429687_98_207_37_114&SEARCH=SEARCH_ALL&ordered_number=&KEYWORDS=samsung+f1+ce&Disp_item2.x=0&Disp_item2.y=0



edit - the reason why i dont like gigabyte is becouse they are asus's low tier and they tend to kill ram and they dont have digital pwms like the dfi boards do so u get vdroop and it can force extra amps into componants were a digital pwm will not


just look at gigabyte and gmh ddr2, i cant think of any1 who has killed gmh or gkx on a digital pwm dfi but gigabyte kills the sticks in a few weeks, affter getting my dfi x38 im not going back to asus or gigabyte

[OpaGT]

here is the board i was speeking of its $30more but it should be the best
http://www.motherboardpro.com/DFI-LanParty-UT-X48-T3R-DDR3-Motherboard-Chipset-X48-Crossfire-Ready-DFI-Motherboard-p-644.html

also for ram if u want 4GB ddr3 then, i would go for this gskill kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231167

im not sure on ur budget affter those but look at the samsung from here its the raid class server drive its a little faster and not much more
http://www.atacom.com/program/atacom.cgi?USER_ID=www&cart_id=429687_98_207_37_114&SEARCH=SEARCH_ALL&ordered_number=&KEYWORDS=samsung+f1+ce&Disp_item2.x=0&Disp_item2.y=0


Ahh cool .. ill check it out !! thanks

[Xel'Naga]

here is the board i was speeking of its $30more but it should be the best
http://www.motherboardpro.com/DFI-LanParty-UT-X48-T3R-DDR3-Motherboard-Chipset-X48-Crossfire-Ready-DFI-Motherboard-p-644.html

also for ram if u want 4GB ddr3 then, i would go for this gskill kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231167

im not sure on ur budget affter those but look at the samsung from here its the raid class server drive its a little faster and not much more
http://www.atacom.com/program/atacom.cgi?USER_ID=www&cart_id=429687_98_207_37_114&SEARCH=SEARCH_ALL&ordered_number=&KEYWORDS=samsung+f1+ce&Disp_item2.x=0&Disp_item2.y=0



edit - the reason why i dont like gigabyte is becouse they are asus's low tier and they tend to kill ram and they dont have digital pwms like the dfi boards do so u get vdroop and it can force extra amps into componants were a digital pwm will not


just look at gigabyte and gmh ddr2, i cant think of any1 who has killed gmh or gkx on a digital pwm dfi but gigabyte kills the sticks in a few weeks, affter getting my dfi x38 im not going back to asus or gigabyte

Why recommend that motherboard when he is not OC-ing? 330$ is just a waste of money. I would buy the cheapest one I can get my hands on:)

[zanzabar]

its not for ocing only its for longevity, teh settings that u use can change the uses, better voltage means less voltage needed

its the only with ddr3 and a digital pwm, im not sure why he wants the x38/48 but thats what he had originally and i would want the most stable and best voltage control as possible to increase the life span of everything that u put in it, and its one of the cheapest (somehow) most are in the $350-375 price range

[Source]

4th u need to swap the HDD look at a 640GB WD or a 320GB 7200.11 or 1TB samsung, dont waist money on a slow 500GB drive from the worst makerWhere did you get that from :')

Have 3 Seagate Harddrives and they are all still working (1 as external).
True that the Samsung F1's are faster but it don't make the Seagate bad HDD's
Also very good experience with Seagate's Service when i had some questions regarding my Harddisk.
But definitively not 'Worst HDD maker' That price goes to WD :clap:

[Xel'Naga]

its not for ocing only its for longevity

its the only with ddr3 and a digital pwm, im not sure why he wants the x38/48 but thats what he had originally and i would want the most stable and best voltage control as possible to increase the life span of everything that u put in it, and its one of the cheapest (somehow) most are in the $350-375 price range

DDR3 is a must. Don't really agree with the digital PWM. I think that an analog solution would work just as good. Especially since it will not be stressed that much anyway. Maybe I'm just cheap:D

[mr2sw21]

Is the DFI T3R better or Asus P5e3 premium or P5e64 Evo? And why Q6600 in stead Q9450 is that CPU not good either? Cause I am planning to buy a new PC too but now sure if I wanna go for DDR2 or DDR3 a lots people saying DDR3 is almost no different than DDR2 due to the las. But I am not starting my project till HD4870x2 comes out.

[zanzabar]

Where did you get that from :')

Have had 3 Seagate Harddrives and they are all still working (1 as external).
Also very good experience with Seagate's Service when i had some questions regarding my Harddisk.
But definitively not 'Worst HDD maker' That price goes to WD :clap:

there are only a few major makers, seagate, WD, hitatchi, samsung, fujitsu. so they are the worst since they are the slowest and in my experience they use the most platers and have the highest failure rates next to WD (only for 2.5" with wd). have u ever seen a seagate/maxtor in a server or workstation, would sun ship them, would dell have swapped to hitatchi and WD from seagate if there was problems since they are priced the same

but your right worst makes it seam more bad than it is

[OpaGT]

OK so .. .

IM currently at build ~

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 HD753LJ 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM 32 MB Cache

OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model (Timing 6-6-6-18)

EVGA 01G-P3-N891-AR GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB (512MB per GPU) 512-bit (256-bit per GPU) GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply - Retail


Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80580Q9300 - Retail (45nm , 1333 FSB )


~ I switch the harddrive, the PSU, Video Card ..

Total price is .. OMG $1,920 !

I hardly OC, and I do play Multiple MMOs .. at the same time .. so Quad-Core is all goodie goodie for me ..
I have a feeling this setup is overkill ... lol but should last a couple of years!

[Xel'Naga]

I hardly OC, and I do play Multiple MMOs .. at the same time .. so Quad-Core is all goodie goodie for me ..

HAHA, awesome :D

[zanzabar]

there is no such thing as overkill for MB/ram/hard drives

intel is going to keep supporting the core2 platform until 2009q3 with new cpus, adn the nahilem wont be a good chip for most people on this forum, so the better MB and ram u get now the less u have to worry about when the high end chipsets get cut, but u still have 1

[vcp-cur]

is there a reason wy you want ddr3 ?

i mean if you're not OC'ing your not doing anything special ...

why not just grab the Gigabyte EP35 ,with 4 Gigs of ram ... the mobo is like $90 .. and the memory from gskil pc1000 = around $90 also...
the rest is alright

[mr2sw21]

oh, I am not planning to OC my PC too, so you will suggest don't buy DDR3? There no stock different?

[Xel'Naga]

oh, I am not planning to OC my PC too, so you will suggest don't buy DDR3? There no stock different?
Nop, not really. Memory speed has very little effect on performance, no matter what OCZ/Corsair/... suggest

[OpaGT]

is there a reason wy you want ddr3 ?

i mean if you're not OC'ing your not doing anything special ...

why not just grab the Gigabyte EP35 ,with 4 Gigs of ram ... the mobo is like $90 .. and the memory from gskil pc1000 = around $90 also...
the rest is alright

The MB is DDR3 .. so I had to get that :)

Also .. Im leaving room to upgrade some of the stuff down the line ..

LIke the CPU ... !


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So yah .. i just ordered all the stuff .. gonna be here in 3 days ..

If i remmeber ill take a pic or 2 :)

Can someone also tell me about that Tool they use to measure speed? or the Speed test?

[cloaker]

umm, right now...the motherboard you get will have no affect on your upgradeability of the CPU in the future.

Its stupid to spend so much more for DDR3 RAM just because you want a better motherboard. Just go with a Gigabyte EP35 motherboard and DDR2 RAM, you wont notice any difference between that and what you are planning to get now.

Edit: Why did you ask for advice if you are barely going to listen to their advice.