SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 Raid-0

[varrius]

I am interested in using two 1TB Spinpoint F1s in Raid-0. I currently use five raptor X drives, however, the space is limited. I would like the additional space. Will I notice significant performance decrease by switching to these drives?

[Yukon Trooper]

Depends on what you do with your computer.

Do you drive a Porsche?

[varrius]

Depends on what you do with your computer.

Do you drive a Porsche?

No.. . I don't.

I want to play games and have large amounts of space.

[SamHughe]

Why don't you keep the raptors and get a cheap 1tb drive for storage?

[Yukon Trooper]

There isn't really any difference in game loading times. If you look at all the benchmarks over the net you'll see all the drives are basically equal in this regard.

[rip[tor]

Sell the stupid ass out dated Ratshiz and get 2x1TB Spinpoint F1s....and yes you will notice big difference, "Temp, Noise and transfer rate"...people here probably still cling on to their gay hair ratshiz cause they did indeed shell out big bucks for it when it first it.

here you go i just took that screen shot just for you, hope you like...FYI: today is a bit chilly and thats without a fan its normally up in the 27-28
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn218/kingfearon/settings-1.jpg

[dengyong]

Sell the stupid ass out dated Ratshiz and get 2x1TB Spinpoint F1s....and yes you will notice big difference, "Temp, Noise and transfer rate"...people here probably still cling on to their gay hair ratshiz cause they did indeed shell out big bucks for it when it first it.

here you go i just took that screen shot just for you, hope you like...FYI: today is a bit chilly and thats without a fan its normally up in the 27-28


:nuts::nuts::nuts::welcome:

Why don't you keep the raptors and get a cheap 1tb drive for storage?

+1 :up:

[Yukon Trooper]

In thermals and noise they are awesome. I have the 750GB F1 drive and am very impressed. I purchased the 750GB Wester Digital drive at the same time, but returned it because it was a full 10C hotter than my Samsung.

[dengyong]

At $120 the 750gb model is the most bang for the buck. you can get two for the price of a 1tb. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152100

[zanzabar]

those sating a cheap 1TB, samsung has the cheapest 1TB, so its the cheapest and fastest

[bluescreen]

Why don't you keep the raptors and get a cheap 1tb drive for storage?

Yes I agree, you should keep the raptors and get some extra storage. The F1's are good for backing up stuff and pure transfer speed but they are not good at simultaneous I/O requests (http://techreport.com/articles.x/14200/10).

[largon]

At $120 the 750gb model is the most bang for the buck. you can get two for the price of a 1tb. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152100F1 750GB (and 500GB) are actually older and slower (less dense platters) than F1 320GB, 640GB and 1TB.

[dengyong]

F1 750GB (and 500GB) are actually older and slower (less dense platters) than F1 320GB, 640GB and 1TB.

Thanks for the info. How's the reliability on the 320 and 640 ?

[Logos4]

Thanks for the info. How's the reliability on the 320 and 640 ?

can't tell about these but if you're looking for reliability, Samsung was supposed to release a 1TB Spinpoint F1R = enterprise version, and optimized for RAID. Just I read that a few weeks ago in a French review, the F1R actually appears on Samsung website, but the HDD itself is nowhere to be found at retailers.

http://www.samsung.com/us/business/semiconductor/newsView.do?news_id=888.0
extract:
"Samsung's new Spinpoint F1R is made to meet the industry's highest quality standards, providing a mean time between failure (MTBF) of up to 1.2 million hours. The new F1R also offers enterprise class features such as command completion time limit, and vibration tolerance with RV controller (RVC). It features a 16 or 32MB cache, a Serial ATA 3.0Gbps interface, a 175MB/s maximum media transfer rate, and NCQ for random I/O performance. Samsung leads the industry with its implementation of perpendicular recording and three platter 1TB design."

Problem now is I'm reading a PDF http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/support/brochures/downloads/storage/f1_raid_datasheet_200712.pdf

where the F1R has the same reference as the F1 standard: HD103UJ for the 1TB;:confused: anyone?

[rip[tor]

Please do bear in mind the 750gb model has the old 4 plater, the T1 F1 has the new denser platers (3) platers in total which gives it fast transfer rate over the 4 plater.....don't skim just spend a little extra cash and get the T1 F1.

Also another post about this topic:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=184169&page=2

[zanzabar]

here is were u can get the f1 raid class but they are much more
http://www.atacom.com/program/atacom.cgi?USER_ID=www&cart_id=483703_98_207_37_114&SEARCH=SEARCH_ALL&ordered_number=&KEYWORDS=SAMSUNG+SPINPOINT+F1+RAID&Disp_item2.x=3&Disp_item2.y=6

$360 for 1TB raid class
$200 for 1TB f1 non raid class

it dosnt seam viable to me, but the 500GB is only a $20 difference for the raid v non raid (this is what database people i know use)

[Logos4]

here is were u can get the f1 raid class but they are much more
http://www.atacom.com/program/atacom.cgi?USER_ID=www&cart_id=483703_98_207_37_114&SEARCH=SEARCH_ALL&ordered_number=&KEYWORDS=SAMSUNG+SPINPOINT+F1+RAID&Disp_item2.x=3&Disp_item2.y=6

$360 for 1TB raid class
$200 for 1TB f1 non raid class

it dosnt seam viable to me, but the 500GB is only a $20 difference for the raid v non raid (this is what database people i know use)
yeah the 1TB R is really expensive
thanks for that link :)

[largon]

I doubt there's any other difference in "RAID class" F1s other than TLER and maybe longer factory burn-in.

[DazzXP]

Not sure it i did the right thing but decided to get 2x SpinPoint F1 750GB drives, cost me £110 while a single 1TB drive costs £96 so for an extra £14 get an extra 50% space which is good. Will sell my 2x Raptor X drives and recover and possible it may not of cost me a penny. So will RAID them as RAID-0 The partision them into 1TB and 400GB Drives, have Vista on the large drive and XP on the smaller back up.

[conzymaher]

For my new build I was planning on a single 1TB Spinpoint F1 (121 euro) but the 640GB Spinpoint F1 (75 euro) is now available from the store where I will be ordering... So I am considering RAID 0 with two of the 640GB drives....

It will be awesomely fast but I dont know if I like the idea of having two drives that big in Raid 0.... They will be used for a lot of storage too so RAID scares me :P

I suppose I could use my older WD 500gig drive as a backup drive, and go with the 1.296TB Raid 0 array :)

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