24" Monitor shootout @Anandtech

[kiikkuja]

Source (http://www.anandtech.com/displays/showdoc.aspx?i=3302)

I didn't read the whole thing but it looks pretty good imo. There's even a input
lag test.

[EnJoY]

Far too limited, and involving primarily TN panels which I could not care less about. A good write-up, but not for me.

[Hornet331]

im still turned off by lcds. :(

either they have crap viewing angles or input lag...

I hope SEDs still get the the market.

[dietwaterrr]

I just can't stand the refresh rate. I wish there were 120hz monitors because tearing is so annoying in games.

[BigRigDriver]

I just can't stand the refresh rate. I wish there were 120hz monitors because tearing is so annoying in games.

Been saying it for years & the manufacturer wont listen:rolleyes:

[Bo_Fox]

I just can't stand the refresh rate. I wish there were 120hz monitors because tearing is so annoying in games.

Amen!

I also do not care about cheap 6-bit color TN panels. PVA's are just better, but S-IPS are superior. Too bad there are not any 24" S-IPS monitors. The original 30" Dell was based on S-IPS technology.

[chunkylover77]

The NEC 24" is IPS I think.

[EnJoY]

The NEC 24" is IPS I think.

As was/is the Dell 2407.

[GAR]

If you are a gamer, the only 24" lcd's for you is TN panels without input lag, benq g2400w, and samsung 245bw, benq is the best as far as input lag goes with around 0-5ms input lag, samsung has 0-15ms lag, the double sight 26" ips panel has about 30ms input lag, which is still tolerable.

[yaddam205]

Amen!

I also do not care about cheap 6-bit color TN panels. PVA's are just better, but S-IPS are superior. Too bad there are not any 24" S-IPS monitors. The original 30" Dell was based on S-IPS technology.

Its a 23" but the Apple Displays are all S-IPS.

[Nicksterr]

My colors look fantastic on my Samsung 940BF, which is a TN panel. I got it for gaming, of course - 2ms response time, etc. Haven't done any calibrating/color changing or anything of the like. Running with a dual-link DVI cable and 75hz @ 1280x1024. I suppose my colors don't look "studio" but I haven't actually seen a PVA or S-IPS panel to compare to. I'm also about to buy the Samsung T220, 22" ws that just came out. I just don't need the more expensive panels for my needs.

[Repoman]

As was/is the Dell 2407.

Negative.

[Xcel]

Yep the 2407WFP & HC are both S-PVA

[Revv23]

I can't wait until i can get a 27 for around $500. I don't care what anyone says... PC games lose to consoles soley because of screen size, i can move all of my inputs/outputs for a pc to a comfy couch except the monitor... i dont like sitting in an office chair playing games (even though im primarily a PC gamer)

though this is nice, I hate how hard it is to pick an LCD... when i ask which LCD to get, people always respond, what are you using it for. I am using it for everything!!! Hello, yes i watch movies, yes i edit video, yes i edit pictures, yes i play games, yes i edit word documents... is there no monitor that is just good? Or is it always a sacrifice? FWIW i have a first gen Dell 2005 FPW that aside from black levels I have always loved.

[kryptobs2000]

yeah, I'm finding I'm having the same problem. I've never owned an lcd, but I'm in the market and they all seem to have flaws in at least one area :(. Where are you sed displays?

[Peakr]

I tried lots of LCD's before settling on the FHD 2400. Color is good. Viewing angle are kinda crappy but like Anand said it's the best over all for the fps enthusiast. Wish there was 24" a S-ISP.

[Rock&Roll]

It's too bad they didn't include the Soyo 24". It runs between $250 and $300. I love mine. Mine's a PVA panel. Some of the newer ones are TN though. Either way, great 24" LCD's for the cost. Of course, If I had my choice I'd still be using my now broken FW-900 CRT.

[GripS]

I just can't stand the refresh rate. I wish there were 120hz monitors because tearing is so annoying in games.

Tearing annoys me too. There's this thing called vsync that takes care of it tho. :)

[NapalmV5]

forget 24" bring on 2400p!

[gojirasan]

I think I read that the Iiyama B2403WS was the best TN 24" monitor available. At 500 euros (about 1,000,000 USD) it is a bit pricey though. Iiyama no longer distributes in North America but I suppose one could be shipped over from Europe. For a lag sensitive gamer it might be worth it. Personally I am quite happy with my 20" NEC IPS monitor, but then I don't play action games much. I notice the lag only when I look for it. I don't understand why no one makes a low lag IPS monitor specifically marketed toward gamers. The Anand reference monitor was IPS and very low lag. So it should be possible.

[Jodiuh]

24in glossy s-ips w/ thin matte black bezel and blue leds for $499...higher contrast ratio than my 2007WFP would be nice

[Roch]

Hazro (http://hazro.co.uk/) do 23, 24, 26 and 30" S-IPS LCD Monitors, they look very nice too.

[TyphooN]

tearing is better than the input lag that comes with vsync if you ask me.

[Yukon Trooper]

(about 1,000,000 USD)
Pocket change.

[villa1n]

tearing is better than the input lag that comes with vsync if you ask me.

QFT!:up:

[adamsleath]

tearing and input lag
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/ottoautopilot/nelson-muntz.gif

[RaZz!]

Tearing annoys me too. There's this thing called vsync that takes care of it tho. :)

negative.

vsync + 60hz = mouselag. try to play a competitive shooter with the mouselag caused by vsync + 60hz. horrible!

[RealTelstar]

24" are too small for me anyway.

I'm still debating which 26-27 get for gaming.

[D4rkn3ss]

negative.

vsync + 60hz = mouselag. try to play a competitive shooter with the mouselag caused by vsync + 60hz. horrible!

yes, with LCD's you *have* to disable vsync, triple buffering and use a usb 2.0 mouse to avoid problems ;)

[Revv23]

or you can overclock your PS2 port. :)

[gojirasan]

24" are too small for me anyway.

I'm still debating which 26-27 get for gaming.

So you don't care about dot pitch.

[TyphooN]

yes, with LCD's you *have* to disable vsync, triple buffering and use a usb 2.0 mouse to avoid problems ;)

correction... for playing FPS on any monitor you have to disable vsync because input lag sucks.

[D4rkn3ss]

correction... for playing FPS on any monitor you have to disable vsync because input lag sucks.

oo yes.. correction on the 24" LCD shootout @ anandtech thread :rolleyes:

[disruptfam]

24" are too small for me anyway.

I'm still debating which 26-27 get for gaming.

me 2!!!!!

whats the best 26-27 for gaming?

[Battle_Rattle]

Anandtech really should have measured input lag against a CRT, I don't care if the HP 30in doesnt have a scaler, it's the analog of the CRT you want as the baseline. (correct me if im wrong)

24" are too small for me anyway.

I'm still debating which 26-27 get for gaming.

Guys... I fretted over this too and I went with the 27in Samsung 275t

I started a discussion on HardOCP (alot more active forum for Displays over there.)

The 275t has some input lag (i do think drivers and specifically Nvidia "pre-render frames" may help this), but in the end I do not think input lag matters. I still throw up top scores on COD4, which is about as "twitch" as you get in gaming.

" Input Lag - A Discussion"
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1252263

im Battle_Rattle there as well.... please give a look


Last thing... 27in monitors are perfect for gaming! 24 is good too and 30in would be too much looking around from corner to corner

[RealTelstar]

So you don't care about dot pitch.

On the contrary, i need it higher (close to 0.30) because of small font text on MOST other resolution/screen sizes I have seen or used.

I tried a dell 24" (one of the best) of a friend of mine, still too small text.

[RealTelstar]

Guys... I fretted over this too and I went with the 27in Samsung 275t


That's still my favourite overall. But it's a bit on the expensive side.
The smaller (25,5" real) samsung TN sibling can be the best choice for gaming only, but there are almost no reviews. It is a lot cheaper and maybe not too small.


I started a discussion on HardOCP (alot more active forum for Displays over there.)


:up:
Will check it.

[hstuehmeyer2000]

It's too bad they didn't include the Soyo 24". It runs between $250 and $300. I love mine. Mine's a PVA panel. Some of the newer ones are TN though. Either way, great 24" LCD's for the cost. Of course, If I had my choice I'd still be using my now broken FW-900 CRT.

i have one of these to and its amazing for the price:clap:

[adamsleath]

I tried a dell 24" (one of the best) of a friend of mine, still too small text.increase text size :rolleyes:

i just cant live without a 30" lcd and a mobile phone in my handbag

Last thing... 27in monitors are perfect for gaming! 24 is good too and 30in would be too much looking around from corner to corner
viewing distance? the smaller the screen the closer i sit, the bigger the screen the further away.

[Soulburner]

I'm still sticking to my guns and saying my BenQ FP241W is one of the best LCDs ever made. I will cling to it to the death!

[Battle_Rattle]

increase text size :rolleyes:

i just cant live without a 30" lcd and a mobile phone in my handbag

viewing distance? the smaller the screen the closer i sit, the bigger the screen the further away.

Point taken... for me it works. I think 1920x1200 scales well for game releases/gpu power ratios (Crysis,) I can't imagine a desk deep enough to make 30in ergonomically comfortable, some 30inchers start to color shift at the corners due to sheer size, and one could roll eyes at text size for 30 inchers as well.

Again... to each his own. 275t was best available for me.

[RealTelstar]

increase text size :rolleyes:


I have enough of doing ctrl+ at least one time everytime i browse and text scaling even with vista is far from perfect.

[Miwo]

I was debating for a long time on which 24" to get......

at the end I said **** it, and picked up a Samsung LN37A550 37" 1080p and am using it as a monitor. Games and Movies look spectacular, and the immersion/big screen factor is just amazing. I am about 3 feet away and I dont notice much color shifting at the edges.....I think Samsung uses S-IPS panels in their TVs.

As far as input lag, it doesnt seem to be any worse than my previous Dell 2007WFP, but I may do a CRT Clone test to check out of curiosity. I seem to play just as good as i usually do in TF2 with the 37" LCD. 1920x1080 is the standard resolution with hidef, not to mention easier on the hardware than 1920x1200, and I dont get borders anymore on the top/bottom of the screen when watching my movies.