Presented for your amusement

[DavidNJ]

http://pctuning.tyden.cz/ilustrace3/highlander/hitparada3/test12.png
http://pctuning.tyden.cz/ilustrace3/highlander/hitparada3/test11.png
http://pctuning.tyden.cz/ilustrace3/highlander/hitparada3/test10.png
http://pctuning.tyden.cz/ilustrace3/highlander/hitparada3/test9.png

http://pctuning.tyden.cz/ilustrace3/highlander/hitparada3/Hgl-Wro-4.jpg
http://pctuning.tyden.cz/ilustrace3/highlander/hitparada3/Hgl-Wroom.jpg

[afX]

so is this a high performance top for the thermalright waterblock?

[Polizei]

Looks custom... no waterblock manufacturer would send a product with lock nuts like those.

[road-runner]

Looks like a 1990s cooling block....

[Eddie3dfx]

The only thing that looks nice is the mount, otherwise it looks hideous, especially with those "nuts" mounted on the top.
Seems like sanford and son started their own watercooling business ;)
Big dummy!

[Pedalmonkey]

also their test results use and un nozzled Fuzion and do not include newer blocks such as the supreme and a nozzled fuzion.
However it does look like they improved the performance with a relatively simple top. i agree it could use a bit of asthetic touch up, but performance wise thats great. ISN'T THAT WHAT XS IS ALL ABOUT?? PERFORMANCE BEFORE BEAUTY!

[afX]

also their test results use and un nozzled Fuzion and do not include newer blocks such as the supreme and a nozzled fuzion.
However it does look like they improved the performance with a relatively simple top. i agree it could use a bit of asthetic touch up, but performance wise thats great. ISN'T THAT WHAT XS IS ALL ABOUT?? PERFORMANCE BEFORE BEAUTY!

I thought it was about performance, but then this MTV came in and everyone started going crazy about looks... whats wrong with todays youth? :shakes:

[Pedalmonkey]

seriously, i think NaeKuh threw out the best analogy ive heard yet. "if these guys at XS found out that putting dog S**T on there CPU would gain them .1C they would"

like i said i THINK this was NaeKuh and i THINK thats the way the quote went, but if its not and you wrote it, plz correct me whoever you are.

Now back to your regulary scheduled thread about a "gheto" CPU block top :P

[DarthBeavis]

seriously, i think NaeKuh threw out the best analogy ive heard yet. "if these guys at XS found out that putting dog S**T on there CPU would gain them .1C they would"

like i said i THINK this was NaeKuh and i THINK thats the way the quote went, but if its not and you wrote it, plz correct me whoever you are.

Now back to your regulary scheduled thread about a "gheto" CPU block top :P

Theory was tested and confirmed.
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/301/thermaltakeng5.jpg

[Polizei]

seriously, i think NaeKuh threw out the best analogy ive heard yet. "if these guys at XS found out that putting dog S**T on there CPU would gain them .1C they would"


Thermaltake does not improve temps by .1°C

[[cTx]Raptor22]

Thermaltake does not improve temps by .1°C

:rofl:

My Thermaltake Jungle 51 killed my first PD820 so I had to use the warranty and get another one...:shakes:

[Martinm210]

Interesting, I might just have to warm up the mill sooner than I thought..:D

[disruptfam]

Theory was tested and confirmed.
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/301/thermaltakeng5.jpg

HAHAHAHAHA

[Monkey101]

Theory was tested and confirmed.
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/301/thermaltakeng5.jpg
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Do you think that would void the warrenty? And does poo conduct electricity coz that stuff looks kind of runny :p:

[ArtosDracon]

Interesting, I might just have to warm up the mill sooner than I thought..:D

what What WHAT? My chiller isn't fully assembled yet, if you're going to be making a top for the thermalright block PLEASE let me know. I'd be VERY happy to share my ideas I've been playing with for making a top for my block(before you even got one :p: ) There are couple fairly small design flaws in the stock top, mainly having to do with barb placement, that have bugged me from the second I opened my block up. I also was considering doing a different nozzle design, similar to the EK supreme, with dual side exits, since certain areas of the stock circle designed to bring water back into the top of the block are essentially useless. I'll make some paint drawings of my design for your consideration. I'm a little busy with another project to think about starting this too. Actually, I'm busy with about four other projects to be honest. What do I get myself into?

[DavidNJ]

I think there is too little sound theory in these top discussions.

There are two reasons this top works, not crystal clear from the image. I recommend you ask yourself the following questions:

What is similar about the Thermalright base and the EK Supreme base?
What is similar about the D-tek Fuzion mid plate and the this mid-plate?
What does this top do that the D-tek Fuzion mid-plate does?
How would you cool yourself off on a hot Summer day with a garden hose?
Why doesn't Martin get a CNC mill?



http://www.wroom.wz.cz/komponenty/blok_CPU_new/jpg/01.jpg

[ArtosDracon]

I think there is too little sound theory in these top discussions.

There are two reasons this top works, not crystal clear from the image. I recommend you ask yourself the following questions:

What is similar about the Thermalright base and the EK Supreme base?
What is similar about the D-tek Fuzion mid plate and the this mid-plate?
What does this top do that the D-tek Fuzion mid-plate does?
How would you cool yourself off on a hot Summer day with a garden hose?
Why doesn't Martin get a CNC mill?




The pin arrays are similar but, the the thermalright exits both sides versus the supremes single sided exit, the supreme essentially doesn't use a mid-plate because of it's single sided exit.
Both the D-tek mid-plate and the Tr mid-plate force the flow of water into the center then out through the pin grid and back up through the mid-plate and then wrap around the inlet to get to the exit, thereby mildly heating the inlet water.
Not sure where you're going with this one to be honest accept that the mid-plate is supposed to be the source of restriction versus the top where washers and nozzles can be installed however, trust me, the barbs are EXTREMELY restrictive, I didn't have a caliper before I cored them out but, just sliding drill bits in, the threaded side of the barb had an ID right close to 1/4" and opening that up to 3/8" increased flow by about 50%.
With a very small nozzle to create a mist using the pressure differential between the pressurized water behind the nozzle and the relatively low atmospheric pressure on the side of the nozzle pointed at me. That effect is essentially irrelevant on a closed loop system unless you have some form of expansion tank that isn't pressurized to the same level as the rest of the loop.
That is about the best question on your list.


Now, had you opened one of these blocks up before you'd realize that the gasket between the mid-plate and the base complete covers the width of the pin array so the water flow is essentially just being forced to the two sides so a nozzle similar to the EK Supreme nozzle would in fact work very well with a dual outlet top and no midplate.

[headala]

Could someone explain the block more...like:
who made it?
history of the design?

[Polizei]

The copper base is from Thermalright's attempt at a waterblock. The top is custom. Center barb is water flowing into the block, the two outer barbs are water flow out of the block. Aim is to increase flow and decrease restriction.

[DavidNJ]

It is from a Czech test: Pokračování testů vodních bloků - nový šampión (http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9627&Itemid=51&limit=1&limitstart=0). That is new champion. Now there Fuzion wasn't nozzled, but their test methdology seemed good.

As in hardwarecanucks, the XWB-1 did well. Some other Czech source had a modified top and midplate for it. They have some other blocks like that, but in an older shower massage and dimple design.

The design directs the scavenge better than those ridiculous semi-circles in the stock XWB-1 (the Fuzion probably has the best scavenge by quite a bit). It also added a more Fuzion like nozzle.

The answers I was looking for and didn't get to the earlier questions was:

Both the Thermalright base and the EK Supreme base force the water in a very thin layer across the water block, minimizing the heat transfer through the water. A HW Labs radiator uses a passage 1.2mm thick! The Thermalright uses pins, the EK uses channels; the EK design is probably better, although their entrance to the back plate is horrid.

Both this base plate and the Fuzion are nozzled, directing a high velocity stream at the base plate.

The mid-plate of the Fuzion joins scavenge ports from the four corners to a common exit. Others have a much more restrictive or not directionally oriented scavenge. This pull the coolant from both ends.

Well, you could shoot a garden hose on full at your self. It will create one very cool spot. However, you would probably prefer a fast moving thin layer cascading over you, as if standing under a waterfall.

Martin will probably get a CNC mill soon...after he stops woodworking. He will realize he can't spend hours on the mill that could be handled without him, and that he can't do some things that a CNC-controlled ball mill can. Besides, I imagine he is going to start making a significant income off his incredible website.

[nikhsub1]

Those graphs are fairly useless... all it shows is mount variation, nothing more. In EVERY graph the order of blocks should not change (theoretically) and if they do, it is just a mount variance. Useless.

[STEvil]

If you look closer you will see that they were actually testing TIM's (Coollab and Arctic Silver) and voltages (3400mhz 1.45 and 3400mhz 1.61) as well, nik ;)

[skinnee]

Theory was tested and confirmed.
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/301/thermaltakeng5.jpg


Classic!!!

[nikhsub1]

If you look closer you will see that they were actually testing TIM's (Coollab and Arctic Silver) and voltages (3400mhz 1.45 and 3400mhz 1.61) as well, nik ;)
Yes I do realize this also a TIM test. My above statement still stands however.

[chunkylover77]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Do you think that would void the warrenty? And does poo conduct electricity coz that stuff looks kind of runny :p:

I think it depends on what the dog eats

[ArtosDracon]

I think it depends on what the dog eats

Thats why I couldn't get it to work. It's supposed to be DOG poo. :cool:

[nanohead]

Looks like the water pump housing from my 1975 Ford Maverick :rofl: