ocz cryo-z news?

[ZenEffect]

anybody know if they are available now? i just spoke with a ocz sales rep and he told me to call back tue. or wed. next week and they should have one for me... but I CANT WAIT :(

[runmc]

Do you have any idea of what your getting inside the case? (parts wise) What is the total price going to be?

[ZenEffect]

Do you have any idea of what your getting inside the case? (parts wise) What is the total price going to be?
from what i understand pretty much everything that was reviewed, neoprene gaskets, and heating element to prevent condensation on the back of the mobo... cost i was told will be around 500-550. i can build myself one for about that price (i have hvac experience w/ all the tools except for the acetylene torch)... but why build one if i can have one pre made for me?

they said they have about 200 or so in stock but are doing some qc testing still. if they dont have one for me by tuesday... i dont know what then, probably im going to bother them until they sell me one anyways.

pic of innards

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1321/5/page_5_inside_the_cooler/index.html

[n00b 0f l337]

Ew at the cost. After seeing the insides, its far from worth that sadly. :(
Ask for some internal pictures before you pay.

[ZenEffect]

Ew at the cost. After seeing the insides, its far from worth that sadly. :(
Ask for some internal pictures before you pay.

im going to inquire about their return policy on this unit before i purchase.

[[XC] gomeler]

Supposedly there will be some test results in the next few days. I'd be patient, chances are you've already waited months :up:

[ZenEffect]

the only thing i dont like in the pic is the white insulation wrap... which would be immediately replaced, along with the fan on the condenser.

[FUGGER]

That white "insulation" is actually packing foam and is not intended as insulation nor will it perform as insulation. It might have been put there to prevent rubbing against the case if there was a clearance problem with the compact size and shipping movement.

Lets all hold our lighters up, it is time :rocker:

[ZenEffect]

That white "insulation" is actually packing foam and is not intended as insulation nor will it perform as insulation. It might have been put there to prevent rubbing against the case if there was a clearance problem with the compact size and shipping movement.

Lets all hold our lighters up, it is time :rocker:

doesnt that side of the compressor get really hot?

[FUGGER]

Discharge line will get hot, suction line cold. You dont want insulation on the discharge line.

[Sam__]

From what iv read those things arent supposed to perform well on quads and other high wattage cpus.

[n00b 0f l337]

Nor at overclocks many people see out of dual cores :(

[Sam__]

Nor at overclocks many people see out of dual cores :(

not looking good for them already :(

[[XC] gomeler]

Lets all hold our lighters up, it is time :rocker:

This is what I was told this afternoon. Goodluck with both units, want to see 5GHz :p:

[RyderOCZ]

$500 - $550? No.

$299 direct from OCZ +$35 S/H anywhere in the US... watch www.ocztechnology.com.

When the order page is up....you can order :)

I have one here now. I DO NOT have a fluke or anything to put down on the IHS for temps, I only have what the unit tells me on the LCD.
-50C at 4.5GHz on E6850 ES with 1.75V.
DFI LP UT P35 T2R reads -48C in bios, which I know is obviously not true. The bios allows adjustment up and down of readout, so I adjusted to +12 which quite often is the difference I see between bios and Coretemp on air. This results in -36C in bios

Sorry for nothing concrete, but that is the best I can give with the tools I have so far.

http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/staff/ryderocz/cryoz/cryoz1.jpg
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/staff/ryderocz/cryoz/cryoz3.jpg
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/staff/ryderocz/cryoz/cryoz4.jpg
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/staff/ryderocz/cryoz/cryoz5.jpg
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/staff/ryderocz/cryoz/cryoz6.jpg
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/staff/ryderocz/cryoz/cryoz7.jpg
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/staff/ryderocz/cryoz/superpi_11329.jpg

[ZenEffect]

500 was the rep told me on the phone. :(
called
408-733-8400

[FUGGER]

I will have my initial Cryo-z thread up tomorrow, I will start off with an E8400 and move onto the 9850BE if it will allow me the pleasure.

I have a review unit here as well.

$299 a piece plus 35 dollars shipping and handling, they will go on sale when the web page is available on www.ocztechnology.com

[RyderOCZ]

Whomever it was...was not informed... I just gave you exactly what it is going to be.
I was assured it would not change, but like anything in this world...no way for me to be eleventy billion percent sure. I am 99.9% sure that it will be up for sale at the price I posted.

EDIT: Great Fugger...you have the tools to show IHS temps, etc which I do not. Also, no 45nm here either. I will be putting my QX6850 ES under it as well, though.

[ZenEffect]

well, i hope it turns out well. ive decided on this in leiu of a q9550...

[Ashraf]

(jealous)

[ZenEffect]

who should i ask for for correct information then? i feel as if i was just blow off now after what you guys told me... :(

[Ashraf]

who should i ask for for correct information then? i feel as if i was just blow off now after what you guys told me... :(

RyderOCZ or Tony. They work for OCZ.

[ZenEffect]

RyderOCZ or Tony. They work for OCZ.

i can ask for tony... but seriously...

*ring*

hi, may i please speak with RyderOCZ?

:p:

*edit*

this entire forum is 100000000000000000000x than any tech support or customer service...

[Movieman]

Whomever it was...was not informed... I just gave you exactly what it is going to be.
I was assured it would not change, but like anything in this world...no way for me to be eleventy billion percent sure. I am 99.9% sure that it will be up for sale at the price I posted.

EDIT: Great Fugger...you have the tools to show IHS temps, etc which I do not. Also, no 45nm here either. I will be putting my QX6850 ES under it as well, though.

Ryder: I'll take a tentity billion percent sure from you and be happy with it!:up:
Unit looks nice and I'm sure will be a good seller at that price.
Dave the Phase change expert..:rofl:

[RyderOCZ]

who should i ask for for correct information then? i feel as if i was just blow off now after what you guys told me... :(

Tony and I work from home...you will not ring and get either of us.

Who do you need to ask? I just posted everything you need to know... are you doubting what I posted? ;)

I IM'd my boss (VP) and asked him what the price is....there it is. Fugger also posted the same info as I did, because he talked to my boss :D

There will be an automated online order form up on www.ocztechnology.com to order.

[ZenEffect]

Tony and I work from home...you will not ring and get either of us.

Who do you need to ask? I just posted everything you need to know... are you doubting what I posted?

I IM'd my boss (VP) and asked him what the price is....there it is. Fugger also posted the same info as I did, because he talked to my boss :D

well, since you are here and the info i got from calling in was obviously incorrect... does it come with a heating element for the back of the mobo?

[ZenEffect]

see why i want to talk to someone over there who knows what is going on? :(
(not to say that you dont, its just that the answer is instantanious on the phone)

[Flinch]

I'm really interested to see how this cools a quad, that's going to be the deciding factor for me.:up:

[RyderOCZ]

Come on....you can't give me more than 20 minutes to find the answer for you? :(

Not sure why the urgency of an instant answer, you can't even buy it yet because it is not on the site for sale, it may be a week before the site is up.

When I get the info, I will post it.

Thank you.

[7499richard]

don't use a heating element, insulate your mobo...

why do you want to add heat to something your trying to cool? Insulation works perfectly fine, there are good stickies here on how to do it properly

[RyderOCZ]

Yes the heating element is included.
Thank you.

[WesM63]

Damn guys give Ryder a break. I haven't see this posted on any other site, so I think its nice of them to give us a heads up.

[[XC] 2long4u]

This thread is going to be locked up faster than a whore on MLK if you guys keep it up.

[cadaveca]

So, how long do I have to hit F5 for to order? :p:

[ZenEffect]

Come on....you can't give me more than 20 minutes to find the answer for you? :(

Not sure why the urgency of an instant answer, you can't even buy it yet because it is not on the site for sale, it may be a week before the site is up.

When I get the info, I will post it.

Thank you.

sorry, i have a bad habit of wanting things NOW. :p:

the urgency of an instant answer is as follows.

what would take me a 20 min in a phone call could result all day on the forum, and since i waste my time at work (well, i shouldnt say waste... my job sucks and i do everything that i can to avoid working) speedy response is preferred... plus if the guy is good, i can ask for him again when it comes to puchase time (i would like to verify my order via phone after it is placed... not that i dont trust anyone, its that im poor and have to make sure exactly where my money is going)

no offense or anything, its just that i find talking to someone on the phone is a bit more efficient than my poor typing and spelling skills.

*see took me like an hour to put this up because of my retarded job... i handle... THE MAIL*

[wdrzal]

Whomever it was...was not informed... I just gave you exactly what it is going to be.

Or was planning on ordering a few and adding a nice mark-up and reselling them before the word got out...........

In any instance ,seems like you got the scoop from the horses mouth....That a great price ....

[RyderOCZ]

Or was planning on ordering a few and adding a nice mark-up and reselling them before the word got out...........

In any instance ,seems like you got the scoop from the horses mouth....That a great price ....:shocked: :rofl: :ROTF:

[BlueAqua]

Looks very promising so far, thanks for the heads up. I wouldn't mind trying one out to compare against my aging Chilly1.

[hecktic]

Fugger,

Please please please also test it on a quad chip like an X3350 Xeon or something in that area.

Thanks

[Sam__]

So, how long do I have to hit F5 for to order? :p:

had me LOLing for a bit :rofl:

[hecktic]

had me LOLing for a bit :rofl:

more like ROFL :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :ROTF:

[RyderOCZ]

This is my first boot with the quad.

CPU-z is correct, 1.60V set in bios.

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/1st_boot_quad.jpg
http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/quad_evap.jpg

[ZenEffect]

This is my first boot with the quad.

CPU-z is correct, 1.60V set in bios.



lapped? *curious*

either way, im sold.

[road-runner]

What about full load temps?

[safan80]

$500 - $550? No.

$299 direct from OCZ +$35 S/H anywhere in the US... watch www.ocztechnology.com.


Sorry for nothing concrete, but that is the best I can give with the tools I have so far.



Thanks for posting! I'm going to order one.

[Planet]

Would order If I didnt have my cascade and single stage under way

[dinos22]

:shocked: :rofl: :ROTF:

it's a great deal

i am surprised you guys didn't add a bit more buffer

these would probably still sell really well even at $399 i'm sure

:up: wish you guys luck
if this takes off hopefully you'll have some cascades for sale for sub 1K heheh :D

[RyderOCZ]

Last one for me tonight...almost 2am, bed time.

CPU is not lapped.

Full load temps are here, as best I can give them to you. Voltage set in bios is 1.500V for all these.

Core's 0/2 got warmer than the other 2. Upon removal of the Evap, I did have too much paste on the CPU and it spilled over to one side. Big plus... no water though :D
I will re-mount tomorrow and hit it some more to either confirm or refute these temps.

EDIT: Ambient temp in the room is 67F / 20C

See ya guys :)

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/4200_quadprime_temps.jpg
http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/quad_evap2.jpg
http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/3d06_4300_cpu.jpg

[aspire.comptech]

Nice to see this finally coming to fruition.

I remember what was it, 3 years ago at the first Showdown lan when you guys had the demo unit.

[{.bLanK} GoD]

If I had a dollar for every spam post in this thread I'd have enough money to buy a couple of pints. Some of you have no respect for the the thread starters at all. We don't care if you "lol'ed"

Nice to see the Cryo-Z nearly ready Ryder.
If your motherboard reads negative temps, it'd be nice to see what speedfan says about the temps. I don't trust core temp as far as I can throw it (with sub zero temps).
How the hell you make any money from selling them so cheap I have no idea.
Interesting that T1 reads the same between your loaded and unloaded pictures, and 5mins under load isn't a true load test. At least an hour @ full load when you get the time would be good.
Nice work, they look very tidy. Have a drink on me and give Tony a pat on the back.

[KeZzZu]

HI Ryder, is it possible to get 230v version of it? if yes how much shipping to europe... this could sell pretty well if priced 299euros :P that is like 450 dollars :/

if not yet avaible... ASAP make it... im not gonna pay 700 euros for vapochill... 1050 ~ dollars :S

[Viss]

Looking good :)

Ryder you might wanna try CPU temp (not core) in Speedfan, seems to be one of the very few progs that can actually read subzero rather correct. Coretemp etc always stays + zero here.

[Tony]

For those asking about 230V versions...sorry 115V only, there will be NO shipments to 230V regions, you have to have a US shipping address.

Now if you get a friend to buy one and you ship it to EU then be warned you probably will not have warranty.

Shipping phase units is real hard to do, especially oversea's, this is why we decided USA/Canada only.

We have had these units ready a good while now, we had to wait for paperwork etc to complete before they could enter the retail channel. As mentioned before you have to watch the OCZ site to see when units come available. As units are tested the passed units should enter the system in batches of 10, this may happen monthly so keep an eye out ;)

Regards Ryder benching...keep in mind this is his first attempt with a phase unit and he is learning all the while, Eric will be offering support on the OCZ forum for those who need it in our dedicated cooling section.

I have a smilar spec unit here and hit 4.66GHZ with a quad 6850 and the cpu remained below freezing even on full load, so there is hope ;)

[Fr3ak]

Is temp1 being measured at the Evap or somewhere else?

Seeing -49C (Celsius I suppose) as Temp1 and a Coretemp of 4 and 15C, makes me either think Coretemp displays the wrong values, because the temp is subzero or Temp1 is not the evap temp.

[chunkylover77]

Good job OCZ. I think you guys easily could have put these up for at least $399 and still sold a ton. $299 is a steal. I'm just wondering what the noise level is. Can this compare to high level water in terms of noise?

[RyderOCZ]

Is temp1 being measured at the Evap or somewhere else?

Seeing -49C (Celsius I suppose) as Temp1 and a Coretemp of 4 and 15C, makes me either think Coretemp displays the wrong values, because the temp is subzero or Temp1 is not the evap temp.-49C is the EVAP temp on the LCD. Coretemp does not read subzero. The Dual Cores I used displayed either 6C or 10C all the time, never moved.

I will look into speedfan.

[Jor3lBR]

Will this be part of steady production or it's just a limited time thing?

[Fr3ak]

Software programs cannot read the correct temperature as the internal register only works above 0C.

The fact you showed coretemp on your screenshots confused me a little.

Thanks for making that clear.

[hecktic]

please stick to the same voltage on no load and then on load so we can accurately compare temps side by side.

thanks

[KTE]

^+1
Looking good guys but please show idle and load temps at the same settings - P95 Small FFT is perfect as long as he load is above 30minutes at least.

i.e. 1.5v 4200 QX6850, would be near 240W full load.

[RyderOCZ]

Long post guys :)

Hopefully this is what you want....no reboots, all done with what you see in bios in the first screenshots:


Ambient:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/ambient.jpg

Bios:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/voltages.jpg
http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/cpuspeed.jpg
http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/biostemp.jpg

EVAP temp while in the bios/no load:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/evaptemp.jpg

Booted into Windows - No Load:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/4200_noload_1500v.jpg

38mins - Quad Prime Small FFT's:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/4200_full_load_1500v_38min.jpg
http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/38min_full_load.jpg

EVAP at the end of 38min:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/evap_after_38min.jpg

So, after remounting this morning, I can say that my mount last night was terrible. After 5min I had 2 cores showing 15C in Coretemp. Now after a correct mount, Coretemp never moved after 38 minutes of Quad Prime Small FFT's :).

The unit is easy to use, my insulation (for benching) is fairly minimal. Nothing in the socket, armaflex under the board and insulation around the socket only.

Oh yea...here is 3D06..I forgot GPU-z though :doh:
Card clocks are 895/1286.

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/3d06_4200_14062.jpg

[Maarten-NForce]

Very very nice temperatures for that price.
Damn, I have to move to the US :D

[RyderOCZ]

Regarding Speedfan... I installed it, started it up and while scanning, it shutdown the board (as in click.. Off... do not pass go) so that is why you do not see it here.

I will put an air cooler on possibly and play with it to see if I can get it working...if I do, I will be back with the Cryo-z hooked up.

I can only make the assumption that temps are somewhere below 4C on the cores. Many of you know far more about the Delta between Evap and core, so maybe you can tell me what they should be approx :D

[ozzimark]

Booted into Windows - No Load:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/4200_noload_1500v.jpg

38mins - Quad Prime Small FFT's:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/4200_full_load_1500v_38min.jpg

uh, is it just me, or is that saying that your idle and load temps are the same in windows, according to coretemp. i'd suggest a program that isn't broken, because there's really no point of those screenshots otherwise ;)

[hecktic]

shhhh i smell vdroop....

[Planet]

Ryder. If I remember correctly you are using a DFI board. If it has the smart guardian tool it will read negative temps but it starts out being 255C = -1C, 254C = -2C and so on.

[Jor3lBR]

@Ryder sold another unit!

Can you just fill us in what was the mistake you made on the 1st installation so new comers to phase cooling won't do the same thing?

[Planet]

Bad mounts are just like air heatsinks or water blocks. They might be un even or not enough pressure.

[itznfb]

@Ryder sold another unit!

Can you just fill us in what was the mistake you made on the 1st installation so new comers to phase cooling won't do the same thing?

didn't he already state he used too much TIM?

edit: nvm, that was some other thread... and not Ryder

[[XC] gomeler]

uh, is it just me, or is that saying that your idle and load temps are the same in windows, according to coretemp. i'd suggest a program that isn't broken, because there's really no point of those screenshots otherwise ;)

The screenshots are very useful as it shows 1) the single-stage isn't crashing due to load 2) the CPU is staying below 0 C. Core temp will give all sorts of dicked up temps right until you hit ~5C or so. The fact that it is holding that chip at 4200MHz is pretty good, now we need to see some results where it starts crashing :up:

[ZenEffect]

will realtemp read negative temps?

[RyderOCZ]

uh, is it just me, or is that saying that your idle and load temps are the same in windows, according to coretemp. i'd suggest a program that isn't broken, because there's really no point of those screenshots otherwise ;)Ozzi...how have you been? :)

Yep, I know...but if you read my post from last night...I had 2 cores that went to 15C in Coretemp within 5 minutes, so I have a definite improvment here. I also said that since I am no phase guru...I was hoping that some of them would step in and give a good estimate, based on EVAP and what is considered "the norm" for Delta between EVAP and core/IHS.

Smart Guardian...now there is an idea...gotta find the DFI CD :)

[Viss]

According to Coretemp temp seems to be below zero while loaded (as its stil stuck) which would be rather impressive for a quad and 1.44v. Stock Mach II had a hard time keeping me E66 below zero at 1.4v during 10 minutes of OCCT (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/2007-02-25-23h45-CPU1.png).

[KTE]

Thanks Ryder, thats actually looking very good since the heat load is quite large... two things:

- evap temp. is stuck?
- damn high vdroop there :eek:

[ZenEffect]

RyderOCZ have you tried realtemp?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179044

the programmer says it should work...

[RyderOCZ]

Thanks Ryder, thats actually looking very good since the heat load is quite large... two things:

- evap temp. is stuck?
- damn high vdroop there :eek:Evap temp is not stuck...went to -50C right after load was off. Also read as high as -40C when I first booted the system (one indication that I had a much better mount). The longer it ran...it got slightly colder as I set things up in bios.
Vdroop control is enabled...I have not measured it on this board. When I had 1.6V set... it read 1.600V in CPU-z.

[Jor3lBR]

Thanks Ryder, thats actually looking very good since the heat load is quite large... two things:

- evap temp. is stuck?
- damn high vdroop there :eek:

On DFI's board you can set the vdroop control ON and OFF. When it's off it wont droop for nothing and when it's on it will give the cpu a break when it's needed...

Ryder is using it ON so the vDroop is perfectly normal and you will find that the Intel cores loves that for stability and in fact they need it. Differently from AMD's that prefer no droop at all.

[RyderOCZ]

Thank Capt. Planet for this one guys :)

Same specs as before...Ambient the same as well.

No Load:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/noload_sg_4200.jpg

Full Load after 38 mins:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/full_load_sg_4200.jpg


So, if we work backwards... No load at about -44C and loaded at about -7C.

Guys...loads much higher than this...just isn't stable with 4 cores running. I can boot at 4.5G, but when you start Prime....the board reboots. Could be more than temps...but I watched it go straight to about +11C real quick at 1.58V loaded.

[n00b 0f l337]

Sounds like around 200W or a bit less :)

[dinos22]

Thank Capt. Planet for this one guys :)

Same specs as before...Ambient the same as well.

No Load:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/noload_sg_4200.jpg

Full Load after 38 mins:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/full_load_sg_4200.jpg


So, if we work backwards... No load at about -44C and loaded at about -7C.

Guys...loads much higher than this...just isn't stable with 4 cores running. I can boot at 4.5G, but when you start Prime....the board reboots. Could be more than temps...but I watched it go straight to about +11C real quick at 1.58V loaded.

that's very very good for a "value" SS cooler costing US$299
i'd buy one if you had stock that works at 230V

[RyderOCZ]

I should have an E3110 Wolfie in a week or so. I know Fugger is working with E8x00 which is where this unit would really make some nice clocks I think.

I need a better 65nm Dually...seems 4.5 is the best I can get out of what I have here :(

[dinos22]

I should have an E3110 Wolfie in a week or so. I know Fugger is working with E8x00 which is where this unit would really make some nice clocks I think.

I need a better 65nm Dually...seems 4.5 is the best I can get out of what I have here :(

yeah it does depend a lot on what CPU you have

my best ever CPU could not bench much past 4.5GHz either however on LN2 it was a 5.5GHz 3D chip :shocked: (E6700)

but another E6850 i had later would bench 4.9GHz on SS i have EEK but there was a FSB wall so i could not get past that even with better cooling lol

judging performance of this unit on CPUs alone is not the best idea however as they differ SOOOOOOOO much

one of my E8500 chips is the hottest EVER CPU ...... no single, dual or quad core CPU was nearly as hot as this CPU......but LN2 is where these hot mothers shine ;) so one customer may have one of these hot chips and OCZ cooler will stuggle and ppl will jump down your throat saying you rigged something....you know how some ppl can get here :rolleyes:

you guys have sent it to review sites i'm sure.....let's hope at least one of those has some proper tools to test these units accurately

[Planet]

Thank Capt. Planet for this one guys :)

Same specs as before...Ambient the same as well.

No Load:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/noload_sg_4200.jpg

Full Load after 38 mins:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/full_load_sg_4200.jpg


So, if we work backwards... No load at about -44C and loaded at about -7C.

Guys...loads much higher than this...just isn't stable with 4 cores running. I can boot at 4.5G, but when you start Prime....the board reboots. Could be more than temps...but I watched it go straight to about +11C real quick at 1.58V loaded.


Nice results man. Glad it worked for you. So ocz gonna thank me and send me a cryo z to test? :ROTF:

[KTE]

Thanks for the testing Ryder, shows a lot more than we knew before :up:


On DFI's board you can set the vdroop control ON and OFF. When it's off it wont droop for nothing and when it's on it will give the cpu a break when it's needed...

Ryder is using it ON so the vDroop is perfectly normal and you will find that the Intel cores loves that for stability and in fact they need it. Differently from AMD's that prefer no droop at all.I'm well aware :)
My main curiosity was, 1.5-1.65v load is where such phase units are wanted more, which is much higher heat load than 1.43v load. 4200 1.43v load is near 200W for a 3000 130W CPU as n0l said.
For 24/7 it'd be a good setting though but for people with Q6600 G0s like mine, who knows - since they bench 42x0 1.53v air just fine.

But MHz is not what matters, that's the CPU limit - the idle and load temps are what matters under the total heat load.

[Fr3ak]

Considering the preice of the unit, the results seem to be very good. Looking forward to Fugger's review.

Too bad you have no intentions of selling it in Europe.

[Nosfer@tu]

I would like to se some K-Probe temps under idle and load.
Temps on LCD´s have been historicly wrong ALL the time!

[itznfb]

Thank Capt. Planet for this one guys

Same specs as before...Ambient the same as well.

No Load:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/noload_sg_4200.jpg

Full Load after 38 mins:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/full_load_sg_4200.jpg


So, if we work backwards... No load at about -44C and loaded at about -7C.

Guys...loads much higher than this...just isn't stable with 4 cores running. I can boot at 4.5G, but when you start Prime....the board reboots. Could be more than temps...but I watched it go straight to about +11C real quick at 1.58V loaded.

hrm... thats what i figured. no way this thing will hold up with a 45nm quad running 1.5v or more.

[Flinch]

In the manual it says:

Max Stable Load-120watts, so holding a quad looks to be difficult, going by the manual.

[GripS]

Thank Capt. Planet for this one guys :)

Same specs as before...Ambient the same as well.

No Load:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/noload_sg_4200.jpg

Full Load after 38 mins:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/full_load_sg_4200.jpg


So, if we work backwards... No load at about -44C and loaded at about -7C.

Guys...loads much higher than this...just isn't stable with 4 cores running. I can boot at 4.5G, but when you start Prime....the board reboots. Could be more than temps...but I watched it go straight to about +11C real quick at 1.58V loaded.

That.....is.....awesome. Hope i can actually get my hands on one.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

This is a great opportunity for people like me who never really considered moving past liquid cooling to jump right into phase w/o the high price tag. I was hoping to save some cash for an HDTV, but this looks like too good a deal to pass up. 300 + shipping looks nice, especially since vapochills run what, a grand? With what little knowledge I have on the subject, for single stage, this looks promising. :up:

I can't wait to see the entire review and really get a clear picture of this bad boy. I hope its worth it. If its not, I'll just stick w/ liquid cooling.

[Jor3lBR]

Long post guys :)

The unit is easy to use, my insulation (for benching) is fairly minimal. Nothing in the socket, armaflex under the board and insulation around the socket only.

Oh yea...here is 3D06..I forgot GPU-z though :doh:
Card clocks are 895/1286.

Hey Ryder,
You said "my insulation (for benching) is fairly minimal. Nothing in the socket, armaflex under the board and insulation around the socket only".

Those insulation peaces come with the cryo (armaflex) etc? If not where to buy?

Why do you say your insulation is minimal, did you use all the stuff that came in box and it's still minimal or you didn't use them all?

Another question would be regarding the "optional" heating element that should be installed on the backplate (see manual page 11), what is that about, is it necessary to install that on dry weather?

Ty:up:

[ZenEffect]

Hey Ryder,
You said "my insulation (for benching) is fairly minimal. Nothing in the socket, armaflex under the board and insulation around the socket only".

Those insulation peaces come with the cryo (armaflex) etc? If not where to buy?

Why do you say your insulation is minimal, did you use all the stuff that came in box and it's still minimal or you didn't use them all?

Another question would be regarding the "optional" heating element that should be installed on the backplate (see manual page 11), what is that about, is it necessary to install that on dry weather?

Ty:up:

the heating element is to help prevent condensation from rusting/shorting out the back of your motherboard... i dont think that it was designed for weather related humidity, but overall humidity... for example washington dc vs los angeles *lived at both* on a normal sunny day will have a difiference of 70% relative humidity due to just the environment and could cause condensation and the possibilty of shorting just by where you live.

additional pieces of neoprene or insulating materials can be found from various online retailers like frozencpu or crazypc.

im new to phase change as well and am very interested in the unit, im just speaking from experience of living in many different places and being bored enough to watch a glass of water condense.

[Serra]

I already posted this in the other thread but got no official response. There are good implications about it, but I'm just looking for the official word.

1. When they appear on the website (however brief that may be), will there be an option to ship to Canada?
I'm inclined to think 'yes', but I want to confirm. For example, as another use pointed out, although it was said they would be available in North America... in that language, it rarely refers to Mexico (which is in NA last time I checked), and many companies feel that doesn't include Canada either. If not I need to arrange for someone in America to be a ship-to address for me, and I'd like to know whether I need to it now or not.

2. Will it fit upcoming CPU sockets? Mostly I'm thinking towards the nehalem-based architectures. I'm assuming the hold-down plate doesn't fit them, but will it be difficult to mod? Will replacement plates be available? I believe the TDP should be about the same so that's not a concern... just physical dimensions.

[{.bLanK} GoD]

@Jor3lBR, heating elements are just more precautions to avoid condensation.
I am a firm believer that heaters are a waste of time, they just add more heat into something you are trying to make as cold as possible. With enough insulation and an air tight seal, condensation is not a problem.
Commercial units supply and recommend using heaters because a lot of buyers are first time phase users and need all the help they can get in the battle against condensation.

@Serra, well done, intelligent questions. (<=== not sarcasm if it sounded that way)

[Jor3lBR]

@Jor3lBR, heating elements are just more precautions to avoid condensation.
I am a firm believer that heaters are a waste of time, they just add more heat into something you are trying to make as cold as possible. With enough insulation and an air tight seal, condensation is not a problem.
Commercial units supply and recommend using heaters because a lot of buyers are first time phase users and need all the help they can get in the battle against condensation.

@Serra, well done, intelligent questions. (<=== not sarcasm if it sounded that way)

Thanks blank I'm a new comer to phase as well :-)

What you mean air tight seal?! The pc case has to be completely isolated? :eek:

Sorry the noob questions I will probably have to see more guides but they are all made for industrial type or diy phase....

[Duh]

Thanks blank I'm a new comer to phase as well :-)

What you mean air tight seal?! The pc case has to be completely isolated? :eek:

Sorry the noob questions I will probably have to see more guides but they are all made for industrial type or diy phase....

nope...refers to the evap/enclosure/cpu

[{.bLanK} GoD]

What you mean air tight seal?

Air tight seal around anything that gets cold enough to condensate.
Condensation happens when moisture in the air we breath, condensates onto a cold surface. Like when you remove a coke can from the fridge.
If you can seal off the cold parts from air, then no moisture can form.
The thickness of your insulation depends on how cold it is, it must be thick enough to stop heat transferring through or condensation will form on the outside of the insulation.
Read some stickies (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=104456), there are heaps, start with this one (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=176913).

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

Air tight seal around anything that gets cold enough to condensate.
Condensation happens when moisture in the air we breath, condensates onto a cold surface. Like when you remove a coke can from the fridge.
If you can seal off the cold parts from air, then no moisture can form.
The thickness of your insulation depends on how cold it is, it must be thick enough to stop heat transferring through or condensation will form on the outside of the insulation.
Read some stickies (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=104456), there are heaps, start with this one (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=176913).

I really appreciate the post. I've only done liquid cooling and this cooler seems to be my only route into phase for a while. There's huge amounts of humidity down here in New Orleans, so I have to be extremely prepared. High humidity is a way of life.

Thanks for helping out n00bs such as myself.:up:

[thebanik]

nice results with a 300$ cooler, will wait for ryder to post "Cryo-z Up for Sale from tomorrow"

*subscribed*

[scifikg]

So, if we work backwards... No load at about -44C and loaded at about -7C.

Guys...loads much higher than this...just isn't stable with 4 cores running. I can boot at 4.5G, but when you start Prime....the board reboots. Could be more than temps...but I watched it go straight to about +11C real quick at 1.58V loaded.


In the bios, is cpu adjust temp at +10 or did you change it?

[FUGGER]

Ive topped out at 5.175Ghz for benching, 5Ghz should be 24.7 stable.

[thebanik]

^^^^Fugger I think i have missed ur earlier posts, but wud that be a 45nm QX or a E8400/8500???? In any case thats an amazing performance from a 300$ cooling kit.

[ZenEffect]

^^^^Fugger I think i have missed ur earlier posts, but wud that be a 45nm QX or a E8400/8500???? In any case thats an amazing performance from a 300$ cooling kit.

i believe its a e8400/8500. im not too sure on its applicaton on a quad core... though it would be nice if it were possible... mabye i can get one and have it re-tuned/modded it to handle a quad... still would be cheaper than getting a mach ii gt or vapochill in the end... and would have better performance.

Fugger, what is on that cats head in your avatar? anti cia aluminum foil cap? i really dont know but its friggin funny thought.

[RyderOCZ]

Fugger is on E84/8500 last I knew.

Quad results (65nm) are in this thread.

[ZenEffect]

Fugger is on E84/8500 last I knew.

Quad results (65nm) are in this thread.

ahh... no new developments then. so ryder, in your opinion would you say that it is quad capable or would further upgrades be necessary?

[Jor3lBR]

Is it safe to use this cryo-z inside a closed case (modded case of course Lian Li)?

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

I'm blind and only see 45nm quad results. There's q6600 results?

[RyderOCZ]

I'm blind and only see 45nm quad results. There's q6600 results?The only Quad results in this thread are mine and that is with a QX6850 which is 65nm, same as a Q6600: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2910714&postcount=78 and post #61

CPU-z correctly identifies it as 65nm as well.

So yes, you are blind :ROTF: :D

No offense intended....

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

Thanks RyderOCZ.

That is interesting that anything more than 1.45v or so is not stable.

Kind of makes me worry. My q6600 requires 1.55v for 3.78ghz which isn't anything special. That basically translates to my current water cooling set up being better than this unit. 1.58v = 11*C? That doesn't sound good. I'm not interested in moving to a dual core as I'd probably use the phase to benchmark and do some gaming on.

RyderOCZ, don't worry about offending me. This is the internet. Good times for all! I need a break honestly, I can't comprehend anything anymore, lol. I appreciate that post.

[sonofander]

soon?

[Jor3lBR]

Thanks RyderOCZ.

That is interesting that anything more than 1.45v or so is not stable.

Kind of makes me worry. My q6600 requires 1.55v for 3.78ghz which isn't anything special. That basically translates to my current water cooling set up being better than this unit. 1.58v = 11*C? That doesn't sound good. I'm not interested in moving to a dual core as I'd probably use the phase to benchmark and do some gaming on.

RyderOCZ, don't worry about offending me. This is the internet. Good times for all! I need a break honestly, I can't comprehend anything anymore, lol. I appreciate that post.

I dunno where you took those info but certainly wasn't from Ryder's test...

He used 1.504v for the Prime95 tests and also toped at 1.58v... The voltage you see was due to Vdroop.

His cpu was giving up not the unit.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

I dunno where you took those info but certainly wasn't from Ryder's test...

He used 1.504v for the Prime95 tests and also toped at 1.58v... The voltage you see was due to Vdroop.

His cpu was giving up not the unit.


I thought that the unit going to 11C was too much load on the compressor?:confused:

What is the upperthreshold of the unit temp wise?

[Planet]

I thought that the unit going to 11C was too much load on the compressor?:confused:

What is the upperthreshold of the unit temp wise?

Shouldnt be an issue.


Thanks RyderOCZ.

That is interesting that anything more than 1.45v or so is not stable.

Kind of makes me worry. My q6600 requires 1.55v for 3.78ghz which isn't anything special. That basically translates to my current water cooling set up being better than this unit. 1.58v = 11*C? That doesn't sound good. I'm not interested in moving to a dual core as I'd probably use the phase to benchmark and do some gaming on.

RyderOCZ, don't worry about offending me. This is the internet. Good times for all! I need a break honestly, I can't comprehend anything anymore, lol. I appreciate that post.

The colder you get the less voltage you need for the OC. So you could prolly get up more 4ghz with the same voltage.

[Jor3lBR]

Shouldnt be an issue.



The colder you get the less voltage you need for the OC. So you could prolly get up more 4ghz with the same voltage.

Thats what I'm talking about, thanks for the post!

There is noway a medium to good phase unit can be less effective to a 24/7 or OC setup then a WC kit.

Are you guys kidding?! :yepp:

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

Shouldnt be an issue.



The colder you get the less voltage you need for the OC. So you could prolly get up more 4ghz with the same voltage.


Thats what I'm talking about, thanks for the post!

There is noway a medium to good phase unit can be less effective to a 24/7 or OC setup then a WC kit.

Are you guys kidding?! :yepp:

Thanks guys. I'm still learning.:rolleyes:

:up:

[Jor3lBR]

I'm officially without my PC now waiting on this unit :rofl:

Sold all my WC stuff and no news on when the Cryo will hit the sales floor :shrug: . Ryder any news from the North Pole?

I hope this doesn't turn out like the last time it was advertised to 'almost' be launched. :shakes:

[GripS]

I'm officially without my PC now waiting on this unit :rofl:

Sold all my WC stuff and no news on when the Cryo will hit the sales floor :shrug: . Ryder any news from the North Pole?

I hope this doesn't turn out like the last time it was advertised to 'almost' be launched. :shakes:

From Ryder in the News section on this product:


I will make sure to get advanced info the day before they are going up on the site.

Ok?

Do not go over there every day this next week or so and look, we are waiting on some certification paperwork.

[geoffsthaboss]

is it safe to say that if you dont snatch one of these up right away theyll be history? im quite interested but not sure if im ready for the plunge

[yokomo]

and how do i get on in UK ??
got the cash just show me where ! 300usd is about 150 gbp aka less than my WC loop cost !

[Jor3lBR]

and how do i get on in UK ??
got the cash just show me where ! 300usd is about 150 gbp aka less than my WC loop cost !

OCZ already said they won't sell a 220v version nor ship to EU. Only in US.

Otherwise you would have to paypal someone here to get one for you and ship it somehow (30kilos is a lot to ship)!

But the units are not out yet and there is no news on when they can came out.

[yokomo]

no fair !
and big shame really as they would sell as fast as they could make them at those prices.

[geoffsthaboss]

really want to see an in depth review

[RyderOCZ]

really want to see an in depth reviewCharles is working on that.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2935536&postcount=124

[itznfb]

I'm officially without my PC now waiting on this unit :rofl:

Sold all my WC stuff and no news on when the Cryo will hit the sales floor :shrug: . Ryder any news from the North Pole?

I hope this doesn't turn out like the last time it was advertised to 'almost' be launched. :shakes:

bad idea.... i called it in the news thread that we wouldn't see these before the end of april. i think that was optimistic.

[TheGoat Eater]

waiting still :down: - performance for 300 USD :up: ;) :D

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

Not that I have seen anything on this specific topic, but has OCZ mentioned anything about mobo prep outside of the online manual? Most people here will probably not use the heating element, and ocz still doesn't discuss the use of dielectric grease. Will any of this come standard or is this unit a "use at your own discretion" thing?

I'm not concerned since XS has a lot of info on mobo prep. I'm just wondering since some people out there NOT on XS might get thier hands on one and lose thier CPU/mobo to condensation in the socket.

[GripS]

Not that I have seen anything on this specific topic, but has OCZ mentioned anything about mobo prep outside of the online manual? Most people here will probably not use the heating element, and ocz still doesn't discuss the use of dielectric grease. Will any of this come standard or is this unit a "use at your own discretion" thing?

I'm not concerned since XS has a lot of info on mobo prep. I'm just wondering since some people out there NOT on XS might get thier hands on one and lose thier CPU/mobo to condensation in the socket.

Good call man....good call.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

Good call man....good call.

I'm an absolute n00b when it comes to extreme cooling. I've done pre-built WC kits before and finally have my current computer set up w/ a custom loop. Nothing special, but at least I am making the jump.

I am just kinda worried that someone who doesn't know enough might just get it, follow the instructions, set it up and BAM, fried CPU, fried MOBO! Hell, if I get my hands on one of these guys, I'll probably be the jerk posting 10,000 questions since I've never used a phase unit (If i am so lucky to get one).

I just hope for any n00b's sake that OCZ does give a tube of dielectric grease and whatever else is needed to keep your computer for becoming a very expensive pile of crap.

[RyderOCZ]

No dilectric grease is included. If you insulate well, you shouldn't need it.

24/7 phasers would probably want it, you want to be triple safe. I still can't see leaving a unit on while I am asleep, but that is just me.

Benching for 4 hours here and no condensation with good insulation, I could go 8 no problem.

[Jor3lBR]

Not that I have seen anything on this specific topic, but has OCZ mentioned anything about mobo prep outside of the online manual? Most people here will probably not use the heating element, and ocz still doesn't discuss the use of dielectric grease. Will any of this come standard or is this unit a "use at your own discretion" thing?

I'm not concerned since XS has a lot of info on mobo prep. I'm just wondering since some people out there NOT on XS might get thier hands on one and lose thier CPU/mobo to condensation in the socket.


No dilectric grease is included. If you insulate well, you shouldn't need it.

24/7 phasers would probably want it, you want to be triple safe. I still can't see leaving a unit on while I am asleep, but that is just me.

Benching for 4 hours here and no condensation with good insulation, I could go 8 no problem.

I don't know what I'm most scared off :ROTF: to brush this thing on the socket or just use stock insulation only:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/180/dielectricgreaseinsockebz2.jpg

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

That pic scares the hell out of me too, Jor3lBR. I know that the dielectric grease is safe, but eh, I don't know. Reselling would be a PITA to say the least.

RyderOCZ, I might actually use the phase unit as a main PC once I upgrade from my q6600, which would be 8 -12 hours max a day (usually 6 hours of on time most of the week per day). I'd rather be overly prepared instead of chancing for condensation since the mobo prep isn't very costly compared to the parts. Thanks for the response. I'm still trying to figure everything out and you've been a big help so far. :up:

[RyderOCZ]

That pic scares the hell out of me too, Jor3lBR. I know that the dielectric grease is safe, but eh, I don't know. Reselling would be a PITA to say the least.It rinses right away with water and a toothbrush. Then you just dry the board with compressed air (I do anyway) Just don't let water sit in the socket, the pins will corrode, you want it totally dry before you leave it sit for any length of time.

[dinos22]

It rinses right away with water and a toothbrush. Then you just dry the board with compressed air (I do anyway) Just don't let water sit in the socket, the pins will corrode, you want it totally dry before you leave it sit for any length of time.

lol have you actually tried that
there is no way in hell that will work
and second of all i can guarantee you 1000% you will bend the pins

AMD CPUs had much firmer fins but i could not get the grease off the CPUs with toothbrush and water or any other solvent which is supposed to dissolve the grease

once it's in there you just have to live with it or you could give the whole mobo a soap bath and then bake it at very low temps for an hour or whatever to dry it heheheh (i can show you photos of the second method :rofl: )

[Jor3lBR]

It rinses right away with water and a toothbrush. Then you just dry the board with compressed air (I do anyway) Just don't let water sit in the socket, the pins will corrode, you want it totally dry before you leave it sit for any length of time.

Hey Ryder,

I saw your post linking FUGGER's new comments on the unit.

So paperwork aside, will OCZ tune the units taking those notes in consideration before ready to ship?

[RyderOCZ]

Jor3lBR,

I have no idea right now what, if any, changes are being made based on Fugger's comments.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

lol have you actually tried that
there is no way in hell that will work
and second of all i can guarantee you 1000% you will bend the pins

AMD CPUs had much firmer fins but i could not get the grease off the CPUs with toothbrush and water or any other solvent which is supposed to dissolve the grease

once it's in there you just have to live with it or you could give the whole mobo a soap bath and then bake it at very low temps for an hour or whatever to dry it heheheh (i can show you photos of the second method :rofl: )

Thanks for the info dinos22. I would like to see a pic of you backing a mobo!:up: ;)

I guess I should ask a more intelligent question. With stock cooling (say stock intel cooler) will the grease actually cause a problem? I wouldn't think so, but I don't know.:shrug:

Most people you can sell to have never even looked inside a computer, so as long as it won't cause any problems, I'm down. :p:

[RyderOCZ]

I guess I should ask a more intelligent question. With stock cooling (say stock intel cooler) will the grease actually cause a problem? I wouldn't think so, but I don't know.:shrug:If it runs with Phase, then it will run with stock cooling... CPU operation does no change between the 2 methods of cooling...accept the speed/temp :)

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

If it runs with Phase, then it will run with stock cooling... CPU operation does no change between the 2 methods of cooling...accept the speed/temp :)


PERFECT!:up: :D

[dmcs414]

So please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that the consensus is the Cryo-Z wouldn't be ideal to use when overclocking a 45nm Q9550 system, but it would do well on a 65nm Q6700 one, because of voltage/power reasons, yes? TIA!

[n00b 0f l337]

Other way around if anything ;)

[Planet]

Thanks for the info dinos22. I would like to see a pic of you backing a mobo!:up: ;)

I guess I should ask a more intelligent question. With stock cooling (say stock intel cooler) will the grease actually cause a problem? I wouldn't think so, but I don't know.:shrug:

Most people you can sell to have never even looked inside a computer, so as long as it won't cause any problems, I'm down. :p:

If you put to much or you run the board in a case with the stock cooler the grease will eventually liquefy and run out of the socket due to the heat. When the board cools back down it will solidify again.

[Praz]

That pic scares the hell out of me too, Jor3lBR. I know that the dielectric grease is safe, but eh, I don't know. Reselling would be a PITA to say the least.
Cleans right up with commercial electronics cleaning solutions leaving no trace.

[RGone]

then bake it at very low temps for an hour or whatever to dry it heheheh

Dry or Until DONE???:shrug:

How long until DONE?...:D

And be sure to use a very soft bristled toothbrush or the cpu pins will look like a drunk plowed the cornfield...

[Serra]

So.... it was coming out last week, then it was coming out this week... and now we're back to no ETA?

Edit: Yes, that statement was made not including all the other times it was "coming out soon". Maybe I got my hopes up thinking this time OCZ really meant it :shrug:

[natedog420]

i think ocz bit off a lil more than they can chew on this. it was suppose to be out for awhile now from what ive read and yet its still not here. i had my hopes up but until i see something im not to concerned about it anymore. my modded cool it does a great job for now.

[Sly Fox]

I've been purchasing my fair share of OCZ products over the years and have enjoyed all of them, so I'm not trying to bash anyone or anything here.

However, it seems to have gotten rather ridiculous with all this Cryo-Z information.

Every few months word makes it around that the unit is coming out "very soon"... and then nothing is heard for weeks even months at a time after that. This is at least the third time I have personally read that the Cryo-Z was coming out "soon." Assuming I'm not completely in the loop, I'd have to assume it's probably been more than three times total.

I have to, frankly, question whether the unit will ever be sold publicly. As it is, anyone holding their breath waiting for the unit to be released has long since died.

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

I've been purchasing my fair share of OCZ products over the years and have enjoyed all of them, so I'm not trying to bash anyone or anything here.

However, it seems to have gotten rather ridiculous with all this Cryo-Z information.

Every few months word makes it around that the unit is coming out "very soon"... and then nothing is heard for weeks even months at a time after that. This is at least the third time I have personally read that the Cryo-Z was coming out "soon." Assuming I'm not completely in the loop, I'd have to assume it's probably been more than three times total.

I have to, frankly, question whether the unit will ever be sold publicly. As it is, anyone holding their breath waiting for the unit to be released has long since died.


On a positive note, "holding my breath" has really kept my wallet fat and healthy. Oh, the upgrades I'd buy if I wasn't waiting for this. :p:

[GripS]

So.... it was coming out last week, then it was coming out this week... and now we're back to no ETA?

Edit: Yes, that statement was made not including all the other times it was "coming out soon". Maybe I got my hopes up thinking this time OCZ really meant it :shrug:

Strange..... I don't recall anybody from OCZ stating when the exact date would be. I'm betting there are several factors still at play here.

[loonym]

I'd much rather have a product that's thoroughly and completely tested than one that's rushed to market with flaws.

[GripS]

I'd much rather have a product that's thoroughly and completely tested than one that's rushed to market with flaws.

Exactly...... I believe this is the real reason why we are waiting so long. I'd rather have a product that will work and not ruin my system.

[Xeon th MG Pony]

Remember people, governments love red tape, and they orgasm over comercial red tape, and that crap takes lots of time!I gurentee you they're pissed at OCz too about it.

[Sly Fox]

The Cryo-Z could NOT be "rushed" at this point. A unit can only be delayed, falsely "launched", and hinted at so many times before it just gets silly.

OCZ is not a stupid company, and they do not have stupid employees. I think they've known very well most of the times they've talked about the Cryo-Z that they had NO intention of launching it and were simply trying to hype it up.

This most recent time, I believed them and I was on the verge of ordering one once they came up on the site.

Now, frankly, I am left much much less than impressed and am simply done waiting. Ordered a watercooling loop. I don't have time to deal with this PR nonsense anymore.

Now don't go and hate on me because you want to suck up to some OCZ reps, please, I won't bother to so much as respond.

[RyderOCZ]

I still want an explanation of why this offends so many people?

[Sly Fox]

I still want an explanation of why this offends so many people?

I know that personally I put off getting a watercooling loop for a very long time, because I wanted the Cryo-Z. I guess after continuing to hear rumors and speculation, in conjunction with the occasional "it's coming 'soon,'" I got frustrated and disappointed.

I like OCZ as a whole, over the years I've purchased OCZ products ranging from CPU coolers, to RAM, to power supplies. All in all, I've been impressed with both the quality and appearance of OCZ's products.

I suppose I'm just bitter about waiting so long for the Cryo-Z. Perhaps I'm in the wrong, but it's simply how I feel.

[Jor3lBR]

I know that personally I put off getting a watercooling loop for a very long time, because I wanted the Cryo-Z. I guess after continuing to hear rumors and speculation, in conjunction with the occasional "it's coming 'soon,'" I got frustrated and disappointed.

I like OCZ as a whole, over the years I've purchased OCZ products ranging from CPU coolers, to RAM, to power supplies. All in all, I've been impressed with both the quality and appearance of OCZ's products.

I suppose I'm just bitter about waiting so long for the Cryo-Z. Perhaps I'm in the wrong, but it's simply how I feel.

:shrug: Dang I sold all CPU loop (rad + pump + fuzion) this last week when I heard that it was coming out by the end of April.

Now I don't know what to do if the same thing happens again! :shocked:

[RyderOCZ]

No...I have no more info about when, paperwork is a PITA.

I finally got a 45nm Dually to play with and since I am not much of an Extreme OC'er...I think I did rather well :)

Aquamark:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/aquamark_244139.jpg
http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/aquamark_250192.jpg

3DMark 2001:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/3d01_79834.jpg
http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/3d01_82019.jpg

The best part of the day :D

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/superpi_1m_8s984.jpg

4M and 8M:

http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/superpi_4m_52s281.jpg
http://www.ryderocz.info/cryoz/superpi_8m_1m58891.jpg

[Jor3lBR]

cOOL Ryder :up: Nice 8.9s Spi!!!

Do you wanna sell me your Cryo? :yepp: :yepp: :yepp:

[Planet]

Nice results Ryder. Your making me miss my cascade :p:

[The Nemesis]

Personally I'm throwing in the towel on this unit. It was announced in '06, said to be out last fall, then almost ready and so on. I didn't want it for 24/7 use. I've had my tagan aplus black pearl case empty since the end of quakecon last year, waiting on this unit. With Quakecon competitions but a few months away, it's time to just order a custom phase unit and begin benchmarking. Good luck to those with time to wait on this unit. It does look promising, but you can't win an overclock contest with hardware you've had a month and this unit looks like it won't be available before summer.

[ZenEffect]

i have a theory on the delays. since ryder keeps saying its "paperwork" i have no reason to believe otherwise as far as the delays. perhaps since phase change units are not conventional pieces of hardware, nobody will insure them for shipment? i work closely with ups and fedex and after reading through the service guides, there is no mention of a phase change unit. do you think that this "paperwork" is an attempt to get a 3rd party insurance carrier? i know that fedex and ups would try to back out on insuring these things at first sight. ups damage claims is a joke and fedex is getting that way as well. mabye ocz doesnt want to lose tons of money shipping these things out through carriers that potentially could damage 30&#37; or more of the shipped units due to their handling?

this is my THEORY and thus i wait.

here is a quote from the fedex ground service guide

section D
"Packages containing all or part of the following items are limited to a maximum declared value of $100:"

part 11
"Any commodity that by its inherent nature is particularly susceptible to damage or the market value of which is particularly variable or difficult to ascertain."


that means that fedex ground is only liable to pay $100 for the insured claim no matter what the insured amount.

can anyone verify that these are the circumstances?

[killermiller]

I don't think your reading it right.

That is a disclaimer for when someone ships a fragile item,(i.e. glass) insures it for an ungodly amount and says that it irreplacable. Not for sub-$300 "refrigerators" which aren't "fragile".

If any shipping negotiations are in place, it is to figure out how to ship a 30lb item anywhere in the country for $35.

[ZenEffect]

I don't think your reading it right.

That is a disclaimer for when someone ships a fragile item,(i.e. glass) insures it for an ungodly amount and says that it irreplacable. Not for sub-$300 "refrigerators" which aren't "fragile".

If any shipping negotiations are in place, it is to figure out how to ship a 30lb item anywhere in the country for $35.

fedex nor ups will insure glass at all. im not reading it wrong, if a claims adjuster came out and looked at a damaged phase change (any damaged package is subject to inspection), they would go to this exact line in the service guide as a way to :banana::banana::banana::banana: you. trust me, i deal with this so much im going to get a tumor. this is probably why there is so much paperwork to be done. if it were me shipping out mass quantities of these i would get it in writing that it would be covered. its different working as a indepenant builder and as a large corporation. if a phase unit is damaged, it is sent back to you and you fix it. all it costs you is time and parts. a phase that is broken and sent back to ocz costs more money because they have to pay their tech to do the repair plus parts. honestly, if there were a bigger segment of phase users, you would be very valuable to a manufacturer as a warranty repair tech.

its not hard to ship 30lbs for $35. become an aso (authorized shipping outlet) and you will see that you can get over 60&#37; discount for every package. $35 is about right to ship from california to new york ground + packing materials as the cost of shipment would only be about $18 in reality *hint hint*
aso discounts are based on tier though, and tiers are based on volume. so whoever the agent is that sets them up would have to put them into a good tier level to start out with... though being ocz im sure thats already locked down years ago.

when you go to a fedex store or ups store to ship, or even have a personal account, you are paying between 60% - 80% more than actual cost.

if anybody has any inquires as to how the shipping game is played, pm me as this is a bit off topic.

once again, this is all speculation. but if its paperwork holding these things back, i bet this is the reason.

[killermiller]

Obviously you work with/for a carrier as/a carrier/clerk/logistical support but obviously don't work with phase units very much. They are nothing more than refrigerators. Instead of an evaporator coil they have an evaporator block. If built and packet properly these units are far from fragile. I bet money that they wouldn't deny a claim if they damaged a somehow but you functioning refrigerator or other appliance. This isn't some sort of conspiricy theory, trust me.

Paperwork is a broad term and your speculations are assumptions at best. It probably isn't even traditional "paperwork". They could be working on how to pay workers who assemble these. If they can build these, they can just as easily be an apprectice in the HVAC/Refrigeration industry making at least a couple buck over minimum wage. If they pay to litte they get crap people who don't do well at their job and cost warranty returns anyway.

Long story short, you have no idea what the delay is. In the company where I work, if the bossman approves a project and it doesn't meet the deadline the bossman wants to know WTF. Our 3 post haven't even scratched the surface and honestly I hope this thread dies a quick death.

[RyderOCZ]

Guys...the units are built. Nobody has to assemble anything. Some of you have seen the photos.... the units are at OCZ in California.

Shipping is handled.

Sorry for being vague...but I am just not going to say more and I shouldn't have to. Everybody wants to know everything about everyone now days... too bad ;) :p: :D

It really is just final details about, how this and when that, ok? :)

[Planet]

So Ryder when you sending me a unit to test? :p:

[ZenEffect]

Obviously you work with/for a carrier as/a carrier/clerk/logistical support but obviously don't work with phase units very much. They are nothing more than refrigerators. Instead of an evaporator coil they have an evaporator block. If built and packet properly these units are far from fragile. I bet money that they wouldn't deny a claim if they damaged a somehow but you functioning refrigerator or other appliance. This isn't some sort of conspiricy theory, trust me.



i manage the 3rd largest volume fedex distributor center in southern california. that includes ups stores and kinkos so you get an idea where im coming from. you dont even want to know what a package goes through before it gets to your front door. 5&#37;-9% of all packages sent will arrive damaged, do you think that that either company could be making the money that they do if they honored all the damage claims for the insured amount? these are not arbitrary numbers btw. this is a figure based upon damage claims vs packages shipped in the year 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008 through our hub w/ a survey of over 30,000 packages per year. 100% of the claims that were denied were due to customer packed packages as it seems the general public does not know the regulations needed for shipping properly.

take for example. say you send a gold bar fedex that is worth $5000 and you go into a store and ship it with the insured amount. do you know what you would get back if it ended up getting stolen or lost during tranist? exactly $100
as far as appliances go like refridgerators, if they are damaged, they are usually scrapped at the manufacturers expense as the insurable amount is not enough to cover the repair costs. they go to a depot where they are either parted out or repaired and re-sold by whoever owns the depot. i know as i worked for one repairing appliances when i lived in florida. the name of the place is Art's TV and Appliances in Fort Walton Beach. please look it up if you are so inclined (bunch of rednecks anyways... their favorite motto in the shop... GET ER DONE :confused: ) they also serve as a GE and Kenmore depot, where my job was to recieve the damaged appliances and repair them so they can be re-sold for 100% profit minus the cost of parts and wages.

drop a refrigerator from 3 feet and it will break, thus will not be insured through a major carrier. same with a microwave, or most other appliances. have you ever seen a sorting hub? do you know how exactly your packages are handled? to put it short, its a game on how far you can throw it so you dont have to walk.

*edited because im really a nice guy*

you are right this thread should die,and i hope this long and boring pointless post will kill it.

[stoner]

First look at a retail OCZ (http://icrontic.com/articles/ocz_cryoz)

from http://icrontic.com

[The Nemesis]

First look at a retail OCZ (http://icrontic.com/articles/ocz_cryoz)

from http://icrontic.com

Good results with quality issues again.:rolleyes: I would have thought that any unit ocz sent out for review would have went through the quality inspection we've heard of.

[Buckeye]

Why is it when these guys, or other review sites for different products, always start out by saying something like...

"It is important to note that this is not a review or a comprehensive analysis, as we only had a few hours to look at the unit in operation, but we were happy with what we saw."

Why do a write up on something when you only have a few hours to look at it. Why even send them a unit if they are only going to give it a few hours.

[The Nemesis]

Another month has past, no additional info or word as to when these units will be available? What about FUGGER? What's happended with yours have you been getting good use out of it??

[NeverMore]

Holy damn, 8.9?

Nice, nice. (This is starting to my position on retial or custom unit/s. )

O:

[Jor3lBR]

It's been almost 6 months with loads of 'now' obsolete hardware on my closet, back then it was top of the notch blocks, rads, pumps, kits etc (waiting on the cryo-z).:rofl:

:rofl:

It's comical even when it's tragical!

[wdrzal]

Why is it when these guys, or other review sites for different products, always start out by saying something like...

"It is important to note that this is not a review or a comprehensive analysis, as we only had a few hours to look at the unit in operation, but we were happy with what we saw."

Why do a write up on something when you only have a few hours to look at it. Why even send them a unit if they are only going to give it a few hours.

I suspect most reviews are written by Enthusiasts with varying degrees of technical knowledge. They provide their opinion based on their previous knowledge/experience & any biases they may or may not have ( I would bet a positive bias gets you free hardware for reviews)(negative bias does not) Now don't throw every one into that boat,Fugger had a OZC and publicly made a few recommendations to improve the unit .IIRC.....it had to do with the controller.

Actually a company wants to find flaws and defects while in the pre-production stage. changes are less costly. There is nothing more costly than having to make a 100&#37; refund. Then the old saying " you can do 1000 things right and no one hears about it,but 1 failure and the whole world knows" I still believe most people are honest and want to produce a good product. After all thats the foundation for a long lasting successful business.

I doubt not many reviews are written by a Independent Engineer or organization such as UL (underwriters laboratories)using expensive test equipment and hard numbers using standardized testing methods.

Then cooling being what it is ,external environmental factors affect performance. So there's room to fudge numbers a bit. I haven't seen the line "Tested @ Standard Temperature @ Atmosphere" there is a very specfic definition for those words....... Some consumers may buy a product solely on a given spec if is 2 degrees colder than another model.

[nfm]

I thought about getting better cooling and maybe some good numbers :D.
I'm still waiting patiently here, I hope OCZ can get the units rolling ASAP :).

[Riggs]

Any updates?

[teyber]

nah... it will be anohter 6 months before the buff comes then goes away for another 6 months...

[Mr Roboto]

I plan on playing Duke Nukem Forever before this unit is in stores. Too bad there is no reason to give for the extreme lateness of the Cryo-Z. I imagine it must be something very, very embarrassing for OCZ otherwise why not explain to us why it's been delayed so many times? Also why does OCZ even list it on their website?

[wdrzal]

OCZ didn't take any customers money in advance,no one is out a penny. The only thing they may be guilty of is raising expetations of a delivery date and not meeting them. Maybe someones feelings are hurt but no ones Bank account is.

In reality the only one out any dough is OCZ themselfs . You guys complaining ,how would you feel if you paid for a unit in full and a year latter are still waiting.......like many others......

Give OCZ a little credit.

[Praz]

Been available for a while now. As much complaining as there has been driving to pick it up shouldn't be a problem.

OCZ Cryo-Z (http://www.centralcomputers.com/ccp67547--ocz-cryo-z-cpu-cooler-compressor-775-am2-754-939-ocztcryo-cpuzzzoczcrr.htm)

[n00b 0f l337]

Yay if its true, love the max stable load of 120W, woohoo for overclocking celerons! :)

[kevinbo03]

I saw several Units at Central Computer's Stevens Creek location in San Jose, CA. So They are out there, And they are in stores.

[[XC] gomeler]

I might be receiving one of these for review. Right now it's only been hinted in a "what would you think about reviewing an OCZ Cryo-Z" to which I initially responded "why would I review a project that was canned". I'll check tomorrow to see if I can still get my hands on one of these. If so then I'll give it a thorough run-down and then tear it to pieces :up:

[loonym]

I think it would be great for a gpu.

[Jor3lBR]

Been available for a while now. As much complaining as there has been driving to pick it up shouldn't be a problem.
OCZ Cryo-Z (http://www.centralcomputers.com/ccp67547--ocz-cryo-z-cpu-cooler-compressor-775-am2-754-939-ocztcryo-cpuzzzoczcrr.htm)

So their hole problem is shipping?! They ship Fridges but they can't ship a tiny compressor.

Funny that Praz new this but OCZ didn't :rofl:



Yay if its true, love the max stable load of 120W, woohoo for overclocking celerons! :)

According to FUGGER and Ryder tests they where beating 200w.

[HDCHOPPER]

so even at only 120w capability what would the temp be at 5.0 loaded penryn ??
would it still keep sub 0 ?? -10 ????? anyone..........


lucky me in Arizona but still 200.00 in gas in a cage to get thier
guess could strap it onto the bike for 80 bucks in gas

[DaMulta]

I got me one of these machines.

2v on qx9650 and it is still frozen at -10c

[TheGoat Eater]

I got me one of these machines.

2v on qx9650 and it is still frozen at -10c

uh... yes he does have one:shakes:

[HDCHOPPER]

wow that sounds good ! thx

[DaMulta]

Pics because it happened.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080830/1264.jpg

This piece is very big, I had to cut some of it off to fit between the chipset heatsinks on my motherboard.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080830/2819.jpg


Those 2 fans IMO put out more noise than this phase does.

[HDCHOPPER]

:up: thanks for the pic's

[n00b 0f l337]

2v on qx9650 and it is still frozen at -10c
That's actually not good, that simply means the temperature setup isn't reading properly.

[DaMulta]

Well that's inside my bios, and with speed fan.

With real temp it is still frozen and shows no movement I have pics, but they are on my other HDD that decided to die on me....and this chip does not like to go past -10c no more. I need to RMA it.

I'm waiting on a e6700 on loan but it didn't show up today.

[n00b 0f l337]

In bios? That's a no load shot, really almost doesn't matter what vcore your running then.

[DaMulta]

well it's the same in windows.

I don't know what the load is off the top of my head, but it does heat up when you start working it. I think it was around 30-40c on load.(I think 50-50)

Best was to run it around 1.6v 1.7 and the quad at 4.5Ghz
This was stable for the most part.

like I said my temp shots are on the dead HDD.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080830/12121.jpg
I did find this one. This is at 1.41 I don't think this is load tho.....

[n00b 0f l337]

Wait positive 30C?

[TheGoat Eater]

I digress - i told him that was a no go...

[wdrzal]

Yay if its true, love the max stable load of 120W, woohoo for overclocking celerons! :)

For 800.00 you could buy 2,make a copper spreader block mount both to one CPU IHS and get @ least 240 watts for 800.00. one unit fails you can still run your rig.

A lot of guys are charging more than 800.00 for just promises of 240 watts, any many of those are un-kept.

I bet they lowered expectations a little because ambient environment affects temps.

They also say 0 watts @ idle, Well unless the the head and the suction line was in a deep vacuum chamber there is never a 0 watt load........ ever on the head........Even a cpu @ idle has a heat output.A head sitting in air extracts heat.

I don't think they ever intended to make a extreme phase unit,but a introducty one where one can move from air or just plain water. A First step into phase. for a very good price.

BTW: Don't throw Stones if you live in a glass house, Did Confucius say say that ???? LOL. ;)

[n00b 0f l337]

BTW: Don't throw Stones if you live in a glass house, Did Confucius say say that ???? LOL.
I've found the trick in the end, is to have all the stones ;)

[wdrzal]

I've found the trick in the end, is to have all the stones ;)

No the trick in business is never give anyone a reason to throw a stone at you, then you'll do well....;) And you won't have a pile of useless stones . :yepp: And if you work hard and treat people fair, you may even end up with a gold brick or two...........:)

[HDCHOPPER]

:up: thats how it works ok .. at least with me :D

heck a used unit ( chilly's , vapo's ) gets 350 now daze & may not fit your set up without extra money throwen at it .

and a TEC set up after all is said & done will run ya at least 400 bucks ( with the good stuff ...artic spider and meanwell ect...)

to have a good starting unit in ss for this amount is great !

let alone haveing all you need to mod later ;)

[Movieman]

I've found the trick in the end, is to have all the stones ;)
THE trick is to know how long the build will take, have good dependable suppliers, to know exactly what the shipping costs are and to pack so the parts can be dropped off a truck and still survive.
Then to add up all that knowledge, put it to use at least once testing all the factors inc the shipping and then, and only then do you have JUST a fair chance of getting it all to work well.

No the trick in business is never give anyone a reason to throw a stone at you, then you'll do well....;) And you won't have a pile of useless stones . :yepp: And if you work hard and treat people fair, you may even end up with a gold brick or two...........:)

Very well said!:up:

[Praz]

Available from OCZ.

http://gear.ocztechnology.com/products/description/OCZ_Cryo_Z/index.html

[Broken]

So in other words, this is great for a Wolfdale...
;)

So right now I am at 4.0Ghz @ 1.35v. With this kit I should be able to do 4.5Ghz or greater right?

[The Nemesis]

:rolleyes:Can't choose shipping method:confused:

[RyderOCZ]

So in other words, this is great for a Wolfdale...
;)

So right now I am at 4.0Ghz @ 1.35v. With this kit I should be able to do 4.5Ghz or greater right? 5GHz was pretty painless for me.. if you are not scared of voltage: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=186334

[Jor3lBR]

:rolleyes:Can't choose shipping method:confused:


Available from OCZ.

http://gear.ocztechnology.com/products/description/OCZ_Cryo_Z/index.html


Humm I don't get why is $40 more expensive then in Central Computers.

No shipping method because they don't ship but where to pick-up?

[HDCHOPPER]

exellent RyderOCZ ! but what was that temp 219c ? of course it was wrong hahahah but what was it supposta be ?

eye really am gonna get 1 of these !!

[RyderOCZ]

exellent RyderOCZ ! but what was that temp 219c ? of course it was wrong hahahah but what was it supposta be ?

eye really am gonna get 1 of these !!200C is actually 0 to 1C in that program.. it doesn't read negative temps.. so if you are at 247.. that is about -44C.. follow?

[just a noob]

where exactly is the pickup location from the ocz store?

[HDCHOPPER]

RyderOCZ gotcha :up: thanks:D

[Riggs]

Hey RyderOCZ, will you guys make mounting brackets for nehalem for the Cryo-Z?

[demonkevy666]

where the phenom 9850 ?
I seen it mentioned on the second page but never got up :/

[rambler358]

Riggs;3268746']Hey RyderOCZ, will you guys make mounting brackets for nehalem for the Cryo-Z?
I'm also interested in knowing if a Socket 1366 CPU bracket is available as well. :confused:

[Jor3lBR]

I'm also interested in knowing if a Socket 1366 CPU bracket is available as well. :confused:

Yes there is, I just got mine fitted with Duniek's mount that is compatible with every type of sockets (most).

More info in this thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3657572&postcount=230

[knightwolf654]

sorry to bring up a dead thread but i was just wondering if this could handle a overclocked phenom II?

[Jor3lBR]

sorry to bring up a dead thread but i was just wondering if this could handle a overclocked phenom II?

It does fine with a Q9650 so I guess the Phenom II would be a piece of cake for the Cryo.

[rambler358]

How about an OC'd 920 at 4GHz?

[tool_462]

How about an OC'd 920 at 4GHz?

Maybe...but why?

If you are only going for 4Ghz, just use air :shrug:

[knightwolf654]

ok cool, just worried on the ocz website it says a max load of 120watts.

[Jor3lBR]

ok cool, just worried on the ocz website it says a max load of 120watts.

That's their safe side. This thing holds much much more then that.

[Odium]

Still not available for shipping :(

[NoX]

Not even for pre-order. Is it still on track to be released?

[Odium]

It is released, they're just not shipping it. The only places to get one are located in California.

[DaMulta]

ok cool, just worried on the ocz website it says a max load of 120watts.



I want to rip the controller out tho. Something happened to mine and I have to turn it on wait till it hits -40 then it turns off wait till -8 turn it back on. Do this about 10 times before she stayes on. IDK
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1255/17/palit_geforce_8800gt_sonic_graphics_card/index.html

My Screen shots(did this around the 12 of Dec 08)
This 8800GT was Vmoded at 1.54
http://img.techpowerup.org/081211/oclit792.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/081211/oclit2.jpg

Another one with ATi tool running for 5mins
http://img.techpowerup.org/081206/beforevoltmod.jpg[img]

Stock power ratting on the card
[img]http://images.tweaktown.com/imagebank/pal88gtson_g_11.gif

http://img.techpowerup.org/081206/phaseday%20001.jpg


Id say this is over that 120 max load:shrug:

[Planet]

It was really easy to bypass the controller. I did it in a matter of a few minutes. Just need a screw driver.

[DaMulta]

It was really easy to bypass the controller. I did it in a matter of a few minutes. Just need a screw driver.

I have no idea on how to do that....no idea at all.

Can you leave the temp read out?

[DaMulta]

Well I turned it on and it fired right up tonight. No on and off crap Hmmmm


Anyways

Found it here
http://coolerexpress.com.tw/en-dual-2cpu.htm
http://coolerexpress.com.tw/images/control-l-72-16x20.jpg

And it says
Multi-function Control card : 1. Auto and manual modes 2. Overload power down protection


Now how would you wire it for manual mode?

This is how it is wired at the moment
http://images.tweaktown.com/imagebank/ocz_cryoz_019t.JPG

[DaMulta]

Hey I never seen this little review before


Specifications of the OCZ Cryo-Z

The system comes equipped with R-507A refrigerant (known as “Forane” or “Suva”) which is a 50/50 mixture of R-125 and R-134a. This is a superior design decision, as Forane is a much better refrigerant than many of the plausible alternatives and slightly better than the R-404A used by the competing Prometia Mach II GT. The gas is stored in a tank which dominates the unit’s interior. The remainder of the unit’s real estate yielding to a small fan/rad combo, a ZEL GQY70AD compressor, and the electronics.

http://icrontic.com/articles/ocz_cryoz

[Jor3lBR]

I have no idea on how to do that....no idea at all.

Can you leave the temp read out?


You have two options: either RMA the unit or build one of these to fix the problem:

http://i35.tinypic.com/1zb9j7b.jpg
Patent Pending

Connected this splitter on the mobo and then one leg to the Cryo-Z and the other to the case switch.

When the CryoZ temps reach -30oC turn the pc on manually by hitting the case switch :up:

Done.

[Odium]

Can this method:

Guys make it simple.
1) Buy the unit;
2) Send email to C.Computers assuming that they are not reliable for any shipping problems with the unit and you will be in charge to do this with a 3rd party shipping company;
3) Get DHL to pick it up for you with a pre-paid waybill that has to be printed in C. Computers or you should mail them the label before DHL pick it up;
4) On shipping instructions make sure you ask them to handle with care like a fridge without tilting the unit (use ground shipping as air will mess up with gas inside the unit);
5) Insure it and if it comes busted go after DHL for your money back...

Simple and efficient.

be used with the OCZ (http://gear.ocztechnology.com/products/description/OCZ_Cryo_Z/index.html) retailer?

[faster3200]

Wow... it keeps dropping in price.

[Jor3lBR]

Can this method:


be used with the OCZ (http://gear.ocztechnology.com/products/description/OCZ_Cryo_Z/index.html) retailer?

Not anymore :-(

[Odium]

I really want one of these, as it's the only commercial product in my price range. Guess I will have to get lucky and snatch a used vapo/prommie from ebay.

[Jor3lBR]

Wow... it keeps dropping in price.

Yeah I will buy my second one just to cool the North Bridge :D

[rambler358]

Has the quality improved on these units? The reviews I've seen so far indicate poor QA and build quality on them. I also don't see a retention plate available yet for the Core i7 chips.

[faster3200]

Hmmm... I had planned on going crazy on WCing for my birthday but maybe I will take a road trip to Cali and pick up this bad boy instead.

[rambler358]

Yeah I will buy my second one just to cool the North Bridge :D
Can you comment on the build quality of your unit?

And anyone know if a 1366 (Core i7) mount adapter is available for this?

[NoX]

Are there any plans to add a distributor in SoCal?

[Jor3lBR]

where the insulation for not to short out

slip some heat shrink tubing (http://www.masterappliance.com/heatshrink.htm)over wire then solder

That was just a naked pic to show people where to solder the wire legs... People should isolate wires thats comon sense.

[teyber]

Can you comment on the build quality of your unit?

And anyone know if a 1366 (Core i7) mount adapter is available for this?
duniek has made a mount :up:

[Shalamay]

Would these be any good converting to a water chiller? Maybe I should just convert my jin unit into a chiller, but since I have no idea of what I'd be doing I like the idea of messing this up better.

[sdumper]

Dude just buy a chiller off of ebay it would be cheaper....