New P4 stepping ??

[bito]

Had a quick look at the Intel site nd it appears that there are two new P4 types listed.....

Core stepping for them id M0, not D1, and the cpuid is 0F25.

The 2.4C/800 is listed as SL6Z3
2.6C/800 is listed as SL6Z4

Does anyone have one of these yet ??

[Phalanx28]

Interesting. Those steppings are not listed on Intel's Spec Finder page.

http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/list.asp?ProcFam=483&CorSpd=ALL&ordType=ALL&SysBusSpd=6107&PkgType=ALL&btnFOS=Filter+on+selections

Which page were you looking at?

Phalanx28

[bito]

Do a search for SL6Z3 on that page in the top right corner.....go to the 2nd detailed search find and have a look at the pdf document......all is in there.....also, from another forum, somebody has got a 2.4c running at over 3.5ghz at default volts....looks good !!

More....
Product Change Notification Change Notification #: 103434 - 00 Change Title: Boxed Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor, PCN 103434-00, FYI, Core Stepping Addition M-0 for 2.40C GHz with 800 MHz System Bus Date of Publication: July 24, 2003 Type of Change Notification: FYI - (For Your Information) Key Characteristics of the Change: Product Design Forecasted Key Milestones: Date of First Availability of Post-Conversion Material: Sep 01, 2003 The date of "First Availability of Post-Conversion Material" is the projected date that a customer may expect to receive the Post-Conversion Materials. This date is determined by the projected depletion of inventory at the time of the PCN publication. The depletion of inventory may be impacted by fluctuating supply and demand, therefore, although customers should be prepared to receive the Post-Converted Materials on this date, Intel will continue to ship and customers may continue to receive the pre-converted materials until the inventory has been depleted. Description of Change to the Customer: ·M-0 Core Processor Stepping Change Addition. ·The CPUID will be 0F25h for M-0 Step. ·M-0 step is pin compatible with D-1 step. Customer Impact of Change and Recommended Action: None Products Affected / Intel Ordering Codes: Component Product Table Pre-Conversion Product Code Pre-Conversion Spec/ROMPre-Conversion MM# Post-Conversion Product Code Post-Conversion Spec/ROM Post-Conversion MM# BX80532PG2400D S L6WF S L6WF 852314 BX80532PG2400DSL6Z3 853185 BX80532PG2400D S L6WR S L6WR 852646 BX80532PG2400DSL6Z3 853185 Reference Documents / Attachments: Document: Location #:
PCN Revision History: Date of Revision: Revision Number: Reason: July 15, 2003 00 Originally Published PCN

[Phalanx28]

I was just about to say this has to be in a Product Change .pdf if it's that new. :)

Phalanx28

[jayray580]

:D im trying to get a 2.4c SL6Z3 Malay with the lowest vcore i can get, i think, there´s the possibility of a :banana:

OC

:D :D

[PytonOrm]

Originally posted by jayray580
:D im trying to get a 2.4c SL6Z3 Malay with the lowest vcore i can get, i think, there´s the possibility of a :banana:

OC

:D :D


i can reach 3.6Ghz with orginal vcore :D mine is malay week 11

[jayray580]

can reach 3.6Ghz with orginal vcore mine is malay week 11
thats good,:toast: ,my Malay needs 1.6 volts to run at 3628 Mhz (on Aircooling), stockvoltage 1.525,
what stockvoltage does ur Malay have ?

[jayray580]

:mad: i think, it might b all wrong, prolly the SL6Z3 is a mobile cpu
:sofa:

[Hentai-san]

Does somebody know anything about the new 2,6C SL6WS? Ordered one C30469-004 recently but i haven't got the chance to lay my hands on it yet.

[macci]

The SL6Z3 model of 2.4C P4 seems to be different from the other 2.4Cs. For instance it has a lot more capacitors on the backside of the CPU and the CPU steppin ID is 5 (it was 9 on my old 2.4C)

gotta see if its a good clocker :D

[jayray580]

gotta see if its a good clocker :D

@macci
have u got 1 already? Is it actually 4 normal desktop and 865 or 875 chipset and socket 478?

(too lazy to search and read specs);)

[PureBooYah]

Originally posted by jayray580
:mad: i think, it might b all wrong, prolly the SL6Z3 is a mobile cpu
:sofa:

actually it's like a rebagged P4EE (maybe one where the L3 cache failed)

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=673354

pic of SL6Z3... http://www.gctl.ca/images/24c.jpg

[PureBooYah]

i ordered another 2.4c this week from newegg and ironically it's this M0 stepping, with the P4EE cap arrangement, i just can't wait to oc this :D :D, too bad i have class today from 2-8 so it's gonna have to wait :(


copy and paste for the pics...
http://www.iupload.net/082003/IMG_1426.jpg
http://www.iupload.net/082003/IMG_1427.jpg
http://www.iupload.net/082003/IMG_1429.jpg

[PureBooYah]

just fired it up quick before i went to class and i hit 3.6ghz, stock voltage, this chip is awesome :D :D

[Holly]

Originally posted by macci
The SL6Z3 model of 2.4C P4 seems to be different from the other 2.4Cs. For instance it has a lot more capacitors on the backside of the CPU and the CPU steppin ID is 5 (it was 9 on my old 2.4C)

gotta see if its a good clocker :D

It just looks like the P4EE, the P4EE is M0, too

Thats what i have heard from a Friend, he is a Hardware Tester for www.hardwareluxx.com ( Be Carefull it`s German ;) ).

He got a SL6RZ3, too and both got the same capacitors and Cpuid String except of the L3 Cache...

[Naughtyboy]

Originally posted by PureBooYah
just fired it up quick before i went to class and i hit 3.6ghz, stock voltage, this chip is awesome :D :D

Awesome m8...plzzz keep us posted

[Creative]

Any word of the 2.6 yet?

Is the SL6WS and SL6WH new 2.6 ones also?

Or is it just the SL6Zx ones?

Cheers :)

[JNav89GT]

did you order retail or oem

Originally posted by PureBooYah
i ordered another 2.4c this week from newegg and ironically it's this M0 stepping, with the P4EE cap arrangement, i just can't wait to oc this :D :D, too bad i have class today from 2-8 so it's gonna have to wait :(


copy and paste for the pics...
http://www.iupload.net/082003/IMG_1426.jpg
http://www.iupload.net/082003/IMG_1427.jpg
http://www.iupload.net/082003/IMG_1429.jpg

[PureBooYah]

i ordered retail

[PureBooYah]

well, i'm quite impressed by this chip, it's soooo much better than my other 2.4c.

i got up to 3.55ghz (295fsb) with stock voltage and that was stable, but it took 1.725v to get up to 3.6ghz stable

i think the reason for this was how much my board undervolts when under load...i have it at 1.725v in the bios, but that is overvolted to 1.744v at idle, then it drops to 1.616v under load (i have it in my p4c800-e not my ic7). oh well, i'm happy :banana:


also anything over 300fsb, my computer slows down to a crawl once i'm in windows and it crashes (explorer uses 50% of the cpu until the crash) but at 300fsb its prime stable...i also heard ATi cards don't like fsb over 300, could this be the reason?

[althes]

Will have to get one from newegg and hope it is the new stepping.;)

[Creative]

Originally posted by PureBooYah
i got up to 3.55ghz (295fsb) with stock voltage and that was stable, but it took 1.725v to get up to 3.6ghz stable

i think the reason for this was how much my board undervolts when under load...i have it at 1.725v in the bios, but that is overvolted to 1.744v at idle, then it drops to 1.616v under load (i have it in my p4c800-e not my ic7). oh well, i'm happy :banana:

I was this fact alone that made me decide to NOT grab this chip. I think my theory has been proven that these chips are actually 3.2 P4EE that did not make the requirements, so they got binned as 2.4. This can be seen with the easy OC to 3.5 with default volts but then the huge increase needed to get just another measly 100mhz. :)

I assume u mean default volts in bios so that drops to ~1.45load (based on your 1.725 drop) and then you say you need 1.725bios which is 1.61load so there is a .15 increase in vcore to just get 100mhz :)

Nice chips, but imo not as *great* as everyone is making them out to be ;)

Dont flame me, this is my opinion, Im not disrespecting you PureBooYah, just commenting on the stepping chip you have :thumbsup:

Cheers

[PureBooYah]

Originally posted by Creative
I was this fact alone that made me decide to NOT grab this chip. I think my theory has been proven that these chips are actually 3.2 P4EE that did not make the requirements, so they got binned as 2.4. This can be seen with the easy OC to 3.5 with default volts but then the huge increase needed to get just another measly 100mhz. :)

I assume u mean default volts in bios so that drops to ~1.45load (based on your 1.725 drop) and then you say you need 1.725bios which is 1.61load so there is a .15 increase in vcore to just get 100mhz :)

Nice chips, but imo not as *great* as everyone is making them out to be ;)

Dont flame me, this is my opinion, Im not disrespecting you PureBooYah, just commenting on the stepping chip you have :thumbsup:

Cheers

my reply from the H...

oh i totally agree with you, and yes my vcore drops to 1.45v underload when i have it set to default :(. and this is a good chip, but a great chip would do 300fsb+ w/stock voltage...i wouldn't flame, i agree, but i'm just happy to hit the 300fsb mark. :D

[Creative]

Oh nah man 300fsb is AWESOME :banana:

Noone can take that away from you bud....you made it to 300fsb so pat yourself on the back and have a :toast:

[SoulEdge]

I'm going to need a couple 2.4C's here, you guys think I should put in an order at the 'egg today or wait until next week?

[Erik21d]

Ordered a 2.4c from Newegg on Wed after hearing of the Z3's and recieved it today. Its a Costa Rica, SL6WF :( So it seems they still have the "older" stepping in stock. I guess its still a crapshoot.

But so far it seems pretty decent tho. Letting it set in at 275fsb at default volts and a Zalman 7000a-Cu, which is stable as far as I can tell.

[Neptune]

Man google prime95 and test ;)

[Coney]

Heya Guys,

:banana: :banana: :banana:

P42.4C
SL6Z3 :p:
3328A452
Costa Rica :cool:

Default VCORE

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/c0ney/OCAU/SL6Z3-3Ghz.JPG

:toast:

[jayray580]

:D hey coney, this is really good news :toast:

[Maxvla]

very nice. i'm looking to pick up one of these soon.

anyone tried the 2.6 version?

[Xenogias]

Does anyone know of a place to order where they will gaurantee your stepping? I hate this guessing game with newegg and am willing to pay more for an M0.

[VoRtAn_MaDgE]

A friend of mine got a 2,4 with that stepping and he is running at 300fsb default vcore very nice indeed:D ,at 301 windows went crazy,too slow,the mouse looks like crazy i don't know:p: , but he already tried booting at 320 and windows boot normally but inside windows everything stays in slowmotion:confused: ,guess to much oc i don't know,he will try to get some ocz4000 to see if he can pass the 300fsb issue:smileysex

[PytonOrm]

320fsb is nothing :D

[Soulburner]

Originally posted by Xenogias
Does anyone know of a place to order where they will gaurantee your stepping? I hate this guessing game with newegg and am willing to pay more for an M0.
Same here, looking for a place to guarantee a stepping as excaliberpc does with AMD's.

[SoulEdge]

OMG, that is awesome. Now if I could just get one chip like that, I would be so happy.

[PureBooYah]

Originally posted by VoRtAn_MaDgE
A friend of mine got a 2,4 with that stepping and he is running at 300fsb default vcore very nice indeed:D ,at 301 windows went crazy,too slow,the mouse looks like crazy i don't know:p: , but he already tried booting at 320 and windows boot normally but inside windows everything stays in slowmotion:confused: ,guess to much oc i don't know,he will try to get some ocz4000 to see if he can pass the 300fsb issue:smileysex

that's the same thing that happens to me when i push my chip past 300fsb, everything gets all crazy and slow. i can get into windows at around 325fsb on air with around 1.675v, but windows is really really slow and basically unusable :(

[Soulburner]

PureBooYah where did you get yours? Random from newegg or were you able to pick it out somewhere?

[PureBooYah]

Originally posted by Soulburner
PureBooYah where did you get yours? Random from newegg or were you able to pick it out somewhere?

i got it from newegg and was a lucky ass (i bought it hoping for this stepping too :p: ...well this one or a L321)

[FUGGER]

I picked up a Z3 and found the limits on my mobo and ram.

Benching at 4Ghz was not a problem, scored 212xx with no video card overclock on 2K1.

I had to switch off the SATA raid @ 298FSB (SATA raid drops out when I raise PCI above 33Mhz). This happens to be the same FSB I maxed out with on my 3.2C booting w/ SATA RAID. Ill try my 3.2 again later with the IDE drive.

Whats the highest FSB record atm?? I might switch back to the Asus and put some loving on the NB

[[SLC]Tachyon]

362Mhz maybe? Macci pulled that on his Albatron 865PE board.

What voltage and cooling are you using on that 2.4C for 4Ghz?

[FUGGER]

1.6v @ 4Ghz, Ill try some stressfull benchmarks with stock volts later.

[taco]

one of my boys just got one, hes having trouble doing 3.3ghz.. i dunno. hes got an ic7-g and some corsair 3500, heres a screenshot, for some reason i didnt find the M0 stepping thing..

http://www.angelfire.com/amiga2/wtf_newb/ss.JPG

[Soulburner]

Ahh looks like the infamous Abit divider issue....the latest BIOS supposedly fixes the divider problems that occur around 250. Does he have it?

If its not the Abit divider issue its the CH5 memory crap issue....if its not CH5 its the board/BIOS.

[daddy_fizz]

i know newegg and googlegear were mentioned, but any sure places where i could get a SL6Z3? thanks

~Fizz

[FUGGER]

Fry's is where I got mine, sorry I forgot to mention that.

[gouda96]

fugger what kind of temps you got running through your block?

That lagging in windows sounds like a possible agp/pci speed issue maybe?

[FUGGER]

around -60c unloaded

[gouda96]

ehehe...that is nice :D

I am looking to hit 4ghz with my prommy and a 2.6c I have coming, but these chips seem like they could probably do it pretty easily. Your temps are better than a prommy for sure, but able to bench at 4ghz stock voltage...wow. That would probably mean with a bit more voltage it could do 4ghz in a prommy without trouble.

[Creative]

My 2.6C SL6WS was §§§§ty so Im grabbing one of these 2.4 :)

See how it goes :thumbsup:

[althes]

I better get one from newegg. I surely hope:D

[asapreta]

Is my P4 2.4 (SL6WF) MALAY - L321A600 any good for overclocking?

I've booted it up at 295 fsb but it slows down a lot windows.

At 280/290 I can get it stable.
Maybe a PSU issue?

Should I keep my original voltage?

My RAM is Nanya DDR 400, and at OV it's 2,5-2-2-5
Board: P4P800.

Thanks!

[PureBooYah]

Originally posted by asapreta
Is my P4 2.4 (SL6WF) MALAY - L321A600 any good for overclocking?

I've booted it up at 295 fsb but it slows down a lot windows.

At 280/290 I can get it stable.
Maybe a PSU issue?

Should I keep my original voltage?

My RAM is Nanya DDR 400, and at OV it's 2,5-2-2-5
Board: P4P800.

Thanks!

yeah the L321 are great oc'ers and the reason you're getting slow downs at 295fsb is probably the same reason i'm getting it at anything above 300fsb. are you using SATA drives? I heard disabling SATA or changing the AGP/PCI speeds can help overcome this problem, but changing the speeds didnt really work on mine and i'm using my SATA ports so i can't disable them.

[gouda96]

if you have an old nvidia card lying around you can toss it in and see if you still get that lagging. If you don't than there is an agp/pci lock issue going on where the agp/pci is raising up too high. Nvidia cards seem to be able to deal with it better than ati cards, but....they are nvidia cards :(

[asapreta]

I've got a MSI Geforce 3 Ti2 64 MB.
And no SATA Drives.

I've locked PCI/AGP (33/66)

May I use default Vcore settings?

[SoulEdge]

It doesn't make sense to me that the extreme windows slowness that people are reporting past a certain fsb is due to the cpu. I mean, if the cpu were on the brink of stability at 300 fsb for example, I doubt it would even boot at like 320. The video card theory seems pretty plausible though.

[asapreta]

Originally posted by SoulEdge
It doesn't make sense to me that the extreme windows slowness that people are reporting past a certain fsb is due to the cpu. I mean, if the cpu were on the brink of stability at 300 fsb for example, I doubt it would even boot at like 320. The video card theory seems pretty plausible though.

What we should do to avoid this problem?
It (slowness) happens even before system boots up, it take ages to get windows fully loaded!

[Soulburner]

So you're saying its perfect at 300 and goes to crap at 301?

[gouda96]

That realy realy sounds like an agp/pci issue. It is raising and you just don't know it i bet.

[Soulburner]

Clockgen (http://www.cpuid.com/clockgen.php) will tell you what they are at.

[PureBooYah]

Originally posted by Soulburner
So you're saying its perfect at 300 and goes to crap at 301?

that's pretty much what happens on mine...

i have it set to 295fsb, when i'm at anything above that (even 296fsb) and i'm playing a multiplayer game my computer will lag every 30seconds (pretty much constant and i have a wireless PCI network card btw - which makes me believe its a agp/pci issue). if i move the fsb down to 295, it's fine. and that's the way it is up to 302fsb, and even at 302fsb windows acts normally, and surfing webpages i can't notice the lag that i'm getting in my games.

now above 302fsb, windows will load/run really really slow and i noticed explorer.exe keeps using 50% of the cpu even when i have nothing running, after being in windows, even shutting down takes about 5 minutes unless i just shut it off. Also if i leave it on long enough it will blue screen so anything above 302fsb is not stable.

[gouda96]

what about prime, memtest, memtest86, and 3dmark...what do they do?

edit-> purebooya... I just noticed you are running your mushkin 3500 lvl2 3:2...that is unacceptalbe to me :D...jump over to the vomd section and get that mem running 5:4 2-2-2-5 like it should be. The p4c800 mod is incredibly easy, won't take you but 30min. to have it completely done I bet.

[PureBooYah]

Originally posted by gouda96
what about prime, memtest, memtest86, and 3dmark...what do they do?

edit-> purebooya... I just noticed you are running your mushkin 3500 lvl2 3:2...that is unacceptalbe to me :D...jump over to the vomd section and get that mem running 5:4 2-2-2-5 like it should be. The p4c800 mod is incredibly easy, won't take you but 30min. to have it completely done I bet.

i was thinking about doing it, but modding scares me :p: , i'll try it at the end of the week when i have more time

at 295fsb all those programs will run (i ran prime (x2) 24hrs, next day looped 3dmark for about 12hrs)

but at anything above that prime will fail within 5 seconds after opening 2 primes, but 3dmark will loop for 12hrs, i quit the loop after that and anything above 302 won't run anything

[BBThumper]

.........was having alot of the slowdown problems over 292fsb and found it was the new 3.8 Ati drivers fault. Installed the 3.7 omega and it seems ok for now. Will try 295 tomorrow.........

[gouda96]

would be very nice if it was just a video driver issue...could be fixed up very easily then...anyone care to verify this?

Did you try omega's 3.8's?

btw...not to get too far off track, but what kind of difference do you see performance wise with the omega's v the ati standard drivers? I haven't gotten around to testing them out yet, too busy working on cpu and ram oc'ing...haven't even oc'd my 9800p 128mb yet :(

[PureBooYah]

Originally posted by BBThumper
.........was having alot of the slowdown problems over 292fsb and found it was the new 3.8 Ati drivers fault. Installed the 3.7 omega and it seems ok for now. Will try 295 tomorrow.........

reeeeeally, i've had the 3.8 cats installed even before i got this cpu, i'll try the 3.7 cats and see if that helps

[gouda96]

...that would be realy good news. Sounds like alot of people would be very happy...

[BBThumper]

.......someone suggested to put the video back to default BEFORE installin new drivers. I am now 5mhz less on the core and mem but no more window lock-ups or video slow down.........also read alot of people are now claiming the 3.8 cats are making there video card run hotter :confused: . Just thought I would pass that on too........

[BBThumper]

Originally posted by gouda96
would be very nice if it was just a video driver issue...could be fixed up very easily then...anyone care to verify this?

Did you try omega's 3.8's?

btw...not to get too far off track, but what kind of difference do you see performance wise with the omega's v the ati standard drivers? I haven't gotten around to testing them out yet, too busy working on cpu and ram oc'ing...haven't even oc'd my 9800p 128mb yet :(

......tried the 3.8 cats and the omega 3.8 and his leaked new driver. I still think all 3 were the reason for my o/c problems......

edit- and remember, DISABLE fastwrites ;) ............

[gouda96]

I hope this helps everyone else...nice job with that find :toast:

[Creative]

Cant really explain what is happening, but when u get to a certain fsb, the pc will slow down and sometimes even windows will error that you have lost foxus with the vid card or something and revert back to 4mb colour :D

This happens for me at 305fsb, at 303 its fine, 304 is kinda slow but bam 305 is the killer. I raide my agp/pci to 36/72 and all is well up to 315 - the stability level of my cpu.

I couldnt do this with SATA RAID but I have an IDE Maxtor drive that I use when going over 305fsb. This allows me to raise the agp/pci and still run the pc fine :thumbsup:

Try a search, maybe someone explained it better than me, but it has be raised numerous times in the Intel and Xtreme Ocing forums :)

[asapreta]

Originally posted by Soulburner
Clockgen (http://www.cpuid.com/clockgen.php) will tell you what they are at.

When I got the cpu-z from CPUID.com, I got this program too.

Do you think it's interesting try to set the frequencies in it instead of using BIOS? To really check which is the AGp/Pci speeds?

[Soulburner]

Originally posted by Creative
I couldnt do this with SATA RAID but I have an IDE Maxtor drive that I use when going over 305fsb. This allows me to raise the agp/pci and still run the pc fine
What about a Single Raptor not in RAID?

[BRoKeN1]

I switched to the Cat 3.8's with my watercooled 9700pro and saw no difference in temps. Oc'd with rage3d @410/355....also I seem to be stuck at 277fsb with 2.6c/IS7, 1024xms3500@2.8v.,ddr444. Never tried disabling fastwrites, could my cpu be limiting my fsb? Could a vmod give me a few more fsb? Im loving all the info from this forum and the community that you are...Peace

[Soulburner]

Sounds like your memory is holding you back, switch to 3:2 and see how high the CPU goes. If it goes higher its the RAM, try changing the timings a bit.

[PureBooYah]

Well, i went back to 3.7 cats after using the 3.8 cats and that fixed the lag problem i was having in games with anything over 295fsb, but it didn't fix the slow down i get after 302fsb

[asapreta]

I think I have some problems with the voltage regultators on my P4P800. Even with certified PSU's 12V line doesn't get over 11.98. I've tryed diferent Psu's also.

[Soulburner]

Originally posted by asapreta
I think I have some problems with the voltage regultators on my P4P800. Even with certified PSU's 12V line doesn't get over 11.98. I've tryed diferent Psu's also.
I use a Thermaltake 480w w/Active PFC powering my P4P800 and my voltages are all over spec, 12.1v, 5.2v, 3.48v, etc. Vcore overvolts too.

[asapreta]

I think my board has some problems.

[BRoKeN1]

have ya tried different bios's asapreta? Soul, I've tried different mem settings as well as 3/2 ratio, I guess I'm at my cpu or board limits, could it be the mobo? Has anyone hit over 277 fsb with the 2.6c? If so what steppings?

[asapreta]

It came with 1007 BIOS and I flashed to 1010 version as soon as I got windows installed.

[Soulburner]

I'm using 1009 which was the latest at the time and haven't had any problems so I haven't switched.

[Creative]

Soulburner, update to the 1011 if using the P4C800-E :)

Also Havnt tried with the SATA just on its own. Im not using RAID anymore on the P4C800-E since changing from the MAX3 and use as Single drives.

When I get the rig back up tomorrow, no cpu now, then Ill let you know how it goes....:)

Will be able to let you know how the SL6Z3 goes on a prommy too :thumbsup:

Cheers
:)

[Soulburner]

P4P800 Deluxe here...I still wanna know where I can be assured a good SL6Z3 as I don't feel like taking gambles with newegg and then having to pay restocking fees to RMA when I get a crappy chip.

[VoRtAn_MaDgE]

A friend of myne will have some new brand cpu's today...let's see if that stepping appears among the baby's:D .
Anyone already with that stepping tried a prommy on it????
4ghz maybe?????
12x334 §§§§ if possible is damn good:slobber:
What about the issue of someguys have about passing the 300fsb barrier???

[Soulburner]

Someone said 1.6v @ 4ghz.

[VoRtAn_MaDgE]

Oh my god is that true???
1.6ghz of overclock????:slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
Where are u my friend...please say to me that u got one of this one's with u :bananal:

[Colin]

My 2.4C is not a SL6Z3 but it can do over 4 GHz stable. Too bad performance is not as good as I have to tone down my timings from 2.5-2-2-5 to 3-4-4-8 to hit those speeds. :(

http://members.lycos.co.uk/csmo/Computer/P4%202.4C/Max/CPU-Z.gif

http://members.lycos.co.uk/csmo/Computer/P4%202.4C/Max/SiSoft_CPU.gif

http://members.lycos.co.uk/csmo/Computer/P4%202.4C/Max/SiSoft_Multimedia.gif

Actually it can do 4.08 GHz as I hit that last night but no screenies... Can have some tonight if you guys want. ;)

My Max3 board overvolts a bit, it's set to 1.7V in the BIOS.

[VoRtAn_MaDgE]

My :slobber: is not about the oc potencial but the overclock that this stepping can do at stock cooling and with stock voltage.

[gouda96]

Originally posted by Colin
My 2.4C is not a SL6Z3 but it can do over 4 GHz stable. Too bad performance is not as good as I have to tone down my timings from 2.5-2-2-5 to 3-4-4-8 to hit those speeds. :(


bh-4 will be our savior!!!

[SoulEdge]

Just got mine from newegg:

Prod Code: BX80532PG2400DSL6WR
FPO/Batch: L321B159

I'll report back on my results when I get it up and running.

[PureBooYah]

Originally posted by gouda96

edit-> purebooya... I just noticed you are running your mushkin 3500 lvl2 3:2...that is unacceptalbe to me :D...jump over to the vomd section and get that mem running 5:4 2-2-2-5 like it should be. The p4c800 mod is incredibly easy, won't take you but 30min. to have it completely done I bet.

just finished the vmod, now running at 295fsb 5:4 2,2,2,5 timings with 3.2v...that mod was incredibly easy :D :banana:

[gouda96]

BOOYA! BOOYA! BOOYA!...BYOB, bring your own BOOYA!

Nice job pure booya...did you use that technique where you just tire the cu wire onto the chip?

:toast:

[Colin]

Originally posted by VoRtAn_MaDgE
My :slobber: is not about the oc potencial but the overclock that this stepping can do at stock cooling and with stock voltage. On the stock cooler and stock voltage my 2.4C can do 3.4 GHz and with a AX478 w/TT Smart Fan 2 I can do 3.6 GHz with stock voltage. ;)

Is that good enough?

Man I am so waiting for the BH-4!!! :D

[PureBooYah]

Originally posted by gouda96
BOOYA! BOOYA! BOOYA!...BYOB, bring your own BOOYA!

Nice job pure booya...did you use that technique where you just tire the cu wire onto the chip?

:toast:

lol :p:

yep, that's all i did

[gouda96]

eheheh i noticed you hadn't changed your sig before, but now you got it :D

[SoulEdge]

Ok, so far I can boot into windows at 3.3@1.550 vcore using stock cooler (altough I replaced crappy thermal pad w/ AS3). I tried 3.5 pushing the vcore up to 1.575 and it will boot but then bluescreens at windows load screen. Seems to be the cpu as my corsair pc3200 is gold - booted fine at DD466 cas2. I have done no stability testing so far but initital results seem promising. The temp sensors on this epox board seem whack though. Very first boot, bios reports cpu at 50C and mobo temp at 35C/95F. The mobo is sitting out on my dining room table and my thermostat says the room is 78F. Well, I'm off to shoot some pool and relax for the evening, I'll get into this more in the morning. Peace.

[gouda96]

Originally posted by SoulEdge
Ok, so far I can boot into windows at 3.3@1.550 vcore using stock cooler (altough I replaced crappy thermal pad w/ AS3). I tried 3.5 pushing the vcore up to 1.575 and it will boot but then bluescreens at windows load screen. Seems to be the cpu as my corsair pc3200 is gold - booted fine at DD466 cas2. I have done no stability testing so far but initital results seem promising. The temp sensors on this epox board seem whack though. Very first boot, bios reports cpu at 50C and mobo temp at 35C/95F. The mobo is sitting out on my dining room table and my thermostat says the room is 78F. Well, I'm off to shoot some pool and relax for the evening, I'll get into this more in the morning. Peace.

That doesn't sound too far off to me...The nb on the 4pca3+ is suppose to run hot, and the stock cooler is pretty bad. If you aren't gonna put a better cooler on the nb you should atleast lap it, and put on some as3. Those are basically the same temps that I was getting. Are you sure that the second sensor is the nb, and not in some random spot on the mobo?

[BBThumper]

Originally posted by PureBooYah
just finished the vmod, now running at 295fsb 5:4 2,2,2,5 timings with 3.2v...that mod was incredibly easy :D :banana:

......how did you get over 295fsb and the "slow-down" problem fixed? I thought you said it was happening over 295fsb so correct me if I'm wrong :) ..............

edit- nevermind I found your post explaining it ...........

[gouda96]

agp/pci problem... (http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=569389#post569389)

fix... (http://www.page.sannet.ne.jp/k-hazama/setfsb/info.htm)
use the P4C800 ULTRA Version 1.5d version...

the slowing thing is an agp/pci bug that all of the boards suffer from(atleast the p4c800 and 4pca3+). Just go to the highest you can go without the "slowing" affect, and then use setfsb to go higher.

[BBThumper]

....I just installed Clock-gen, is that the same thing or do you think setfsb is better? Noticed using clockgen that only CPU-Z and there cpu checker shows the increase but SiSandra and WCPUID doe not, is this normal?.........

......hehehe-the link takes me to a thread where i put this thread in as a link :D .............

[gouda96]

I am not sure if clockgen would work, but I think it will...you try it and tell us.

I noticed you linking in there :D

[Creative]

Just got mine in and currently priming at 300fsb @ 1.50vcore. Default vcore in bios and loads to 1.50 and idles at 1.58 :)

Im pretty damn happy guys. I have to use 3:2 cos no vdimm mod on atm but after that should be changing soon :thumbsup:

Ill keep u guys updated, but yer these 2.4C SL6Z3 are the goods imo :banana:

Cheers

ps
no screenies, my webspace is rooted :(

[gouda96]

very very consistent oc's from these...I wonder how often they would hit 4ghz in a prommy...I thought you had a prommy creative?

[BBThumper]

......thks gouda....ClockGen works fine. I couldn't go over 292 without windows lock-ups while surfing but using this utility I am at 296 running prime............

[Creative]

Very consistent I think gouda :)

Ya got the mach2 here but dont want to go all the way and then be dissapointed.....know what I mean?

But trust me, Ill be sure to try it soon when I get a little bored with the current speed :D
hehehehe

[gouda96]

sweetness...that program seems better than setfsb. I am glad it worked.

I know what you mean :D

How much of a difference is there between the machII and machI?

[PureBooYah]

took a screen shot just for the hell of it, my cpu scores are a little lower than normal but thats only cause i've been running burn-in programs all night

pic (http://upload.skillzilla.com/b3ta/uptest/300fsb.JPG)

and when you guys use either of those programs (setfsb or clockgen) do you set your fsb to stock in the bios or do you continue from your highest oc?

[Creative]

Continue from highest OC for me and raise the vcore a little so u have some to play with :)

Nice Oc there BooYah :banana:

[Soulburner]

Hey you should try out the Multimedia Benchmark in Sandra 2004 instead....I think you'll be surprised with what happens :D.

As for those SL6Z3s......DAMN I gotta get me one of those. Should be able to 3DMark at 300 on air.

[gouda96]

BOOYA, PUREBOOYA! What creative said is exactly what I was told...and I would deffinately trust creative:toast:

little off trach...creative...those ttgi psu's only have adjustable pots for the 5v and 12v line right, and not the 3.3v right?

[luihed]

Do these SL6Z3 stepping comes in 2.6c variety?

[PureBooYah]

Originally posted by Soulburner
Hey you should try out the Multimedia Benchmark in Sandra 2004 instead....I think you'll be surprised with what happens :D.

As for those SL6Z3s......DAMN I gotta get me one of those. Should be able to 3DMark at 300 on air.

didn't even know sandra 2004 was out

pic (http://upload.skillzilla.com/b3ta/uptest/multi300.JPG)

that's much better :D

[SoulEdge]

Update: Got home a little earlier so I've fired it back up. Seems my initial assumptions were a bit off as the ram appears to be the bottle neck. Changing to 3:2 on the memory fixed the blue screen at bootup and I can now bootup at 3.5 altough it fails prime instantly. Gouda, when I said mb temp, I meant the case sensor, it's reporting 38C under load which is 100F! It's barely 80F in the room, and I have it sitting right out on the table. I don't have any fans blowing on the mobo but it shouldn't be getting that hot just sitting there by itself. It was running prime ok at 3.4 but CPU temps were soaring to 66C so I stopped it. Does this mobo just read high or is that normal w/ stock cooler? I think the mounting is pretty fool-proof and I used a super thin layer of AS3 which works great on all the athlons I've ever installed so I don't think I messed up anything there... Lastly, according to the MBM, and cpuZ, the vcore undervolts like hell. They report 1.50 when its set to 1.6 in bios. Did you have a similar experience w/ that?

[BBThumper]

.......just wondering if you guys are getting to 300 in Turbo or Standard? I seem to get more problems in standard........

......I thought I read somwhere :confused: that sandra 04 was giving lower benches than Sandra Max...........

......yes, it does undervolt when under load and overvolt when idle :rolleyes: .............

[gouda96]

Originally posted by BBThumper
.......just wondering if you guys are getting to 300 in Turbo or Standard? I seem to get more problems in standard........

......I thought I read somwhere :confused: that sandra 04 was giving lower benches than Sandra Max...........

......yes, it does undervolt when under load and overvolt when idle :rolleyes: .............

What do you mean by turbo or standard?

My vcore undervolted about the same, and my vdim overvolted a pretty good bit too, maybe about 1/2 as much as the vcore undervolted.

[BBThumper]

.......Performance Mode= Auto, Standard,Turbo...........

.......I cannot select auto at all over 280fsb :rolleyes: ...........

[PureBooYah]

Originally posted by BBThumper
.......Performance Mode= Auto, Standard,Turbo...........

.......I cannot select auto at all over 280fsb :rolleyes: ...........

hmmm...i could get in with 3:2 ratio before my mod on all of the options and i can get in with 5:4 after the mod with all of the options

mine's on auto right now, same with the other Performance mode thing under Chipset in the bios

[Soulburner]

Mine doesn't like Standard at high OC's so I have to use Turbo to get it working for some reason.

[Creative]

Originally posted by gouda96
BOOYA, PUREBOOYA! What creative said is exactly what I was told...and I would deffinately trust creative:toast:

little off trach...creative...those ttgi psu's only have adjustable pots for the 5v and 12v line right, and not the 3.3v right?
Cheers bud :thumbsup:

Yep the TTGI only has the adjustable for the 12 and 5v lines but I found the 3.3 raised a tinnny little bit also, nothing heaps like the other 2 lines, but a small bit atleast :)

With the Turbo and Standard setting, I know that the ram will default to 2-5-2-2 no matter what you manually set it at. This is for 1:1 only though guys so not sure about what it does in the other divider modes though....but Turbo is better than Standard for me :)

Have been doing assignments all afternoon so havnt played much with CPU yet :)

[VoRtAn_MaDgE]

MY friend only gets SL6WF anyone with this stepping???
New one's only 27th...:(

[asapreta]

I sent my motherboard to the dealer to exchange it.

I can get one of these:

MSI:
Neo 875P LSR
Neo 875P FIS2R
Neo2 865PE FIS2R

ABit:
IS7-G Max2 Advance

Asus:
P4P800 Deluxe
P4C800 Deluxe

How do you guys recommend?

Overclock is my goal.

[VoRtAn_MaDgE]

The last one that's my opinion:)

[Alexandrus]

P4C800-E non Deluxe or P4C800 rev. 2.0, I think they are the same board. That is if you do not need FireWire and 1 PATA RAID and the extra 2xSATA RAID, other wise get the P4C800-E Deluxe.

[SoulEdge]

Sorry to go OT but is 60C load to high? I really think its this epox board because I'm priming at stock vcore now and my temps are in the high 50's, low 60's, and the heatsink is obviously making good contact because I can feel the heatsink getting warm.

[Soulburner]

Your sig says liquid cooled....if so thats worse than my $25 Aeroflow...:stick:

[SoulEdge]

Originally posted by Soulburner
Your sig says liquid cooled....if so thats worse than my $25 Aeroflow...:stick:

It's being rebuilt w/ some new components, I stated this was w/ the stock retail cooler.

[PureBooYah]

Originally posted by Creative
Cheers bud :thumbsup:

Yep the TTGI only has the adjustable for the 12 and 5v lines but I found the 3.3 raised a tinnny little bit also, nothing heaps like the other 2 lines, but a small bit atleast :)

With the Turbo and Standard setting, I know that the ram will default to 2-5-2-2 no matter what you manually set it at. This is for 1:1 only though guys so not sure about what it does in the other divider modes though....but Turbo is better than Standard for me :)

Have been doing assignments all afternoon so havnt played much with CPU yet :)

when i have it on standard and the other performance mode in chipset section on Enabled i get 600-700 more 3d2k1 marks, but my memory bandwidth scores are the same whether they're on standard or turbo, so i think if you already have 2,5,2,2 timings then you won't see memory bandwidth increase, but performance still does increase

[gouda96]

Originally posted by Soulburner
Your sig says liquid cooled....if so thats worse than my $25 Aeroflow...:stick:

When I had mine with the stock cooler it was running in the low 40's at stock voltage under load, and 50's with about 1.65v. Maybe you should try reinstalling the hsf?

[Soulburner]

Originally posted by gouda96
When I had mine with the stock cooler it was running in the low 40's at stock voltage under load, and 50's with about 1.65v. Maybe you should try reinstalling the hsf?
I don't really have a problem with temps on mine, I only run 250fsb (3ghz) day to day and it only needs the default voltage.

[gouda96]

soul, you have a 4pca3+?

[SoulEdge]

Originally posted by gouda96
When I had mine with the stock cooler it was running in the low 40's at stock voltage under load, and 50's with about 1.65v. Maybe you should try reinstalling the hsf?

This bothers me a little. I just reseated it and now back in the bios, I'm idling in the low 50's. It was priming fine before at 3.39@1.575v but I didn't like seeing the temps get in the mid 60's. What was your ambient temp? My case/mobo sensor is reading 35C right now (which still seems odd as well since having a large desk fan blowing on the mobo only brought it down to about 33C when the actual room temp is about 27-28C). Maybe this sucker just runs hotter than most, I dunno...

*edit* yes, this is on the 4pca3+ rev2 I just got the other day

[gouda96]

heheeh souledge...was asking soulburner if he had the 4pca3+ rev2.

That is realy weird that your temps are that high...what bios are you using? I might be mistaken about my temps, but I don't think so. I would have remembered upper 50's and 60's. Would be nice if some other 4pca3+ users would post their temps. Hopefully my mobo will get here some time this week so I can be up and running again.

[SoulEdge]

Originally posted by gouda96
heheeh souledge...was asking soulburner if he had the 4pca3+ rev2.

That is realy weird that your temps are that high...what bios are you using? I might be mistaken about my temps, but I don't think so. I would have remembered upper 50's and 60's. Would be nice if some other 4pca3+ users would post their temps. Hopefully my mobo will get here some time this week so I can be up and running again.

oh i c. I'm using the bios that came on the board, but I'll flash the newest later today. I wish more people had this board so they could share their experiences but so far the temps don't seem to be hurting too much. I'm now priming at 3.42@1.6, which btw is reported by the bios as only a meager 1.52 My goal was 3.5 for daily use so when I get the watercooling set back up, I should be lookin good. :toast:

[gouda96]

If the hsf doesn't feel hot than I wouldn't worry about the temps. My vcore undervolted by about .05, but .08...that is pretty funny. The board could undervolt .15 and I would be fine, just as long as I could get 1.7v.

[Soulburner]

No I don't have that board, but you also can't trust BIOS temps no matter what board you're using. I use a probe attached directly to the back of the CPU. Its as close as you're gonna get.

At 3ghz mine says 26c at idle....and I know thats BS. Probe says 32-36c. It also says 38 load when its actually 48.

[gouda96]

Just use whatever the idle temp is, and watch how far above ambient it goes.

[Gef]

Are mine stepping any good?

http://www.home.no/gef/P4.jpg

[jagare]

I'm going to Fry's today to try and pick up one of the new SL6Z3's. I'm wondering how I should ask the rep there for one. How should I go about asking the guy there if I they have it, so they'll understand? "I'm looking for a specific 2.4c processor with SL6Z3 at the end of the Prod code"?. Also, has anyone tried one of the 2.6 SL6Z4's? If those clock even higher then the 2.4c's I'll spring for the extra $20 at Frys and get one. :)

[sinn]

where have most of you been getting these chips? would i have a good chance of getting one if i ordered off newegg or zipzoomfly??

[jagare]

Couldn't get over to Frys today, will probably check in a few days though.. still want one of those steppings!

[gouda96]

I think alot of the newegg 2.4c's have been z3's lately, like over half I have seen...but then again people that get crappy procs are less inclined to share the news with everyone.


Gef-People look for L320's and L310's, and within 1 week of those seem to be pretty good. Although i usually see the L321's alot more than L319, but it is realy just alot of luck anyway.

[sinn]

i think im going to give newegg a call and see if they could send me a chip with that stepping

[gouda96]

that is the one thing that newegg is bad about. They have always told me that they can't check part #'s and revisions, and they won't garuntee any of them. Things like color, revision, #, date, size, shape, scent, species, # or eyes...

[BRoKeN1]

I was able to pick up one of the new SL6Z3's from zipzoomfly about 2 weeks ago for a IC7 system...definately runs best at default vcore, didnt like geil golden dragon ddr433, runs stable on all but prime at 3.45, no gat, 2-5-3-2 on corsair xms3500. Oh yeah, stock hsf and no special thermal paste either. I think it would be stable at 3.6 if I had a good power supply, this one undervolts pretty bad...so all in all not a bad chip!:banana: :banana: :banana:

[althes]

Well I am getting back one from intel rma today.
Will set it up on the epox board.;)

[althes]

Well my rev 2 epox was a bust. Bought a rev 1.2 from newegg, and testing it now.:D

[dioSRL]

althes what do you mean? I have a rev. 2 but i dont have the cpu for it yet.

Also, anybody knows anything about SL6Z4?

[althes]

My rev2 had problems bad ide ports.