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boris_37
04-08-2008, 08:37 AM
Okay so i know this tv doesn't support full HD(which is that truly that bad?) but it says 1080p if you use HDMI in the full specs page
http://us.lge.com/products/model/detail/tv%7Caudio%7Cvideo_lcd%20flat%20panel__42LG30.jhtm l
however. It says that its 720p. I bought this from future shop the other day(waiting for delivery). I am kind of annoyed because it's listed as 1080p on their website, but if you search through it isn't. then it is yeah.. messed up.
So all in all, i got a deal on this tv regardless and it has a really good chip in it. So... whats with the 720p deal? And did i get screwed and should i be getting a full 1080p instead? I'm not too worried about the slightly lower quality but yeah. let me know.
ZOMGVTEK
04-08-2008, 09:27 AM
How much did you pay?
That is a 720P tv, assuming your model number is exactly the same, i would assume the one you bought is 720P as well. It probably says it will accept a 1080P signal through the HDMI, just like any HDTV, but it has a resolution of 1366x768 (720P)
And the resolution of the tv being lower dosent make it look worse at all. Most 1080P tv's in the 1-2K range look like crap. You are usually better off getting a beter 720P set than a cheap 1080 tv. And i saw a few tv's that the 720P version looked significantly better than the 1080P.
Dont let marketing fool you, 1080P is not god. Look at the tv, does it look good to you? Thats all that matters.
twilyth
04-08-2008, 09:36 AM
I'm pretty sure that most broadcasters only transmit 1080i - which means you only get 540 scan lines per frame - less than the 720p you get for a progressive rather than interlaced signal. The only way you're going to get 1080 progressive is from blu-ray or the now defunct HD-DVD. If you play a 1080p disk on your 720p, I'm pretty sure it will downscale, but you'll need to check the tv's specs to be sure.
However for the money you spent on that tv, you could get a 1080p set no problem. Check out some of the 1080p - aka Full HD - sets at Costco (http://www.costco.com/Common/Category.aspx?whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|79|2341|3316|74672&N=4018657&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=74672&Ns=P_Price|0||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&hierPath=79*2341*3316*74672*&topnav=). If you still want a 720p, then you should at least be getting a much better price.
boris_37
04-08-2008, 09:36 AM
How much did you pay?
That is a 720P tv, assuming your model number is exactly the same, i would assume the one you bought is 720P as well. It probably says it will accept a 1080P signal through the HDMI, just like any HDTV, but it has a resolution of 1366x768 (720P)
And the resolution of the tv being lower dosent make it look worse at all. Most 1080P tv's in the 1-2K range look like crap. You are usually better off getting a beter 720P set than a cheap 1080 tv. And i saw a few tv's that the 720P version looked significantly better than the 1080P.
Dont let marketing fool you, 1080P is not god. Look at the tv, does it look good to you? Thats all that matters.
k thx you make me very happy. Yeah i was looking at last years model of this tv and they only had this one in the warehouse so i'm not too worried now.
Uhm yeah color was the only thing bothering me about the other one and this one has a 30bit processor as opposed to the 8bit on the similar lg.
I was just worried when i went online and it said 720p. I was kinda steamed cause i was specifically looking for a 1080p tv. I mean i'm not annoyed that much HD is HD. I guess it will look good no matter what.
Yeah the much much better processing should make up for it not being 1080p. Thanks.
Also edit***
I live in Canada, we don't get good deals... lol Electronics here are much much more expensive. You're lucky you live where you do. And yeah i can't get a better deal overall its canada.
Also last edit i paid $1100 for it. Got $200 off just for the heck of it so i'm not too worried.
nelsoncp21
04-08-2008, 12:54 PM
As stated a 1080p set will only display 1080p using Blue Ray. HDTV broadcasts and upconvert DVD players will display up to 1080i which will display on your TV. Unless your using a fairly large screen and sitting relatively close 1080p offers very little benfit. It's mostly marketing hype.
twilyth
04-08-2008, 01:15 PM
As stated a 1080p set will only display 1080p using Blue Ray. HDTV broadcasts and upconvert DVD players will display up to 1080i which will display on your TV. Unless your using a fairly large screen and sitting relatively close 1080p offers very little benfit. It's mostly marketing hype.
The only tv I have umm, "intimate" experience with is a 50" Sony SXRD projection rated for 1080p <yes darling, I'm talking about you - won't be a moment>. But when I go to the stores and look at the displays, you can see the pixels more easily on the lower res sets. If you view at the recommended distance, you probably won't notice unless you have extremely sharp vision. It's not a huge difference between 720p and 1080p but if the link you gave had the right price - about $1400, you should be able to get a good 1080p for about the same money. Vizio tends to make a decent set at a really low price but even a brand name 1080p like Samsung in the 37" to 42" range should be about the same price. I don't know what electronics prices are like in Canada, but you must have Costco's and Sam's Clubs there. It might be worth checking.
jas420221
04-08-2008, 01:20 PM
That is a 720P tv, assuming your model number is exactly the same, i would assume the one you bought is 720P as well. It probably says it will accept a 1080P signal through the HDMI, just like any HDTV, but it has a resolution of 1366x768 (720P)= :up:
And the resolution of the tv being lower dosent make it look worse at all. Most 1080P tv's in the 1-2K range look like crap. You are usually better off getting a beter 720P set than a cheap 1080 tv. And i saw a few tv's that the 720P version looked significantly better than the 1080P. :down: :shocked: :shrug: :shakes:
Are you kidding? Pass the dutch to left homeslice!!! I know its a subjective.......subject, but this paragraph is just outlandish to me at best.
twilyth
04-08-2008, 01:37 PM
:up:
:down: :shocked: :shrug: :shakes:
Are you kidding? Pass the dutch to left homeslice!!! I know its a subjective.......subject, but this paragraph is just outlandish to me at best.
I should have added this to my previous post - although the difference isn't huge, it IS noticeable. I have astigmatism - pretty mild - as long as my pupils aren't dilated. For me, it's like the difference between wearing my glasses and not. I can make out even pretty fine detail without them, but the details really pop when I wear them.
Also remember that almost any hdtv should be tuned to get the most out of it and sets tend to come overtuned to compensate for the harsh light in most showrooms. But there's no way to tune a 720p to show the same resolution as a 1080p.
boris_37
04-08-2008, 02:00 PM
The only tv I have umm, "intimate" experience with is a 50" Sony SXRD projection rated for 1080p <yes darling, I'm talking about you - won't be a moment>. But when I go to the stores and look at the displays, you can see the pixels more easily on the lower res sets. If you view at the recommended distance, you probably won't notice unless you have extremely sharp vision. It's not a huge difference between 720p and 1080p but if the link you gave had the right price - about $1400, you should be able to get a good 1080p for about the same money. Vizio tends to make a decent set at a really low price but even a brand name 1080p like Samsung in the 37" to 42" range should be about the same price. I don't know what electronics prices are like in Canada, but you must have Costco's and Sam's Clubs there. It might be worth checking.
first of all guys, take it easy i asked about my tv, no need to come in being mean to each other, get on topic.
Second thanks twilyth but i paid $1100. and costco doesn't give deals. 'good' 1080p's here. like a samsung 37" or 40" are roughly $200 more than mine. Samsungs are def worth it but i am not willing to pay that. Partially cause my tv is already on the way.
I can get a 32" from costco for $800.... next up is a
http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10305838&whse=BCCA&Ne=5000001+4000000&eCat=BCCA|79|2341&N=4008766%204294966519&Mo=3&No=1&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-CA&Sp=C&topnav=
42" 720p like mine. doesn't have the same resolution though you must notice. and im running a 40bit processor on mine. that and its plasma...
I mean, unless you live in canada don't keep saying "oh but you must be able to get good deals" but i cant... lol
Like i keep trying to say, you live in canada, you pay a fortune for the electronics.
nelsoncp21
04-08-2008, 08:20 PM
To be honest the resolution is 1 of the minor factors you should be looking at. Yes if you have the money to blow on a 1080p and you plan to watch bluerays and sit fairly close than it's a good idea imo but other factors need to be considered like contrast,refresh rate and response. Also the type of TV you pick should be dependant on the room your viewing it in, the angle and how much light is in the room. Each tech has it's plus's and minus's when it comes to these factors. As you stated Boris you are already purchased it so I wouldn't fret to much over the 1080p issue. From what I can see from the specs it looks like a pretty decent TV and for what you paid for it I don't think it was a bad deal at all. Specs aren't everything though and I never buy or recomend a TV that I have not seen in person though.
Hopefully you will enjoy your new toy!