Intel to release its own SSDs later this year

[Zytek_Fan]

Dadi Perlmutter said that Intel will release its own SSDs onto the market place later this year and claimed that they would deliver on the full promise of solid state disk technology, unlike so many of the drives currently on the market.

Perlmutter showed a demonstration on stage with three laptops: two with 65nm Core 2 Duo processors—one kitted out with a traditional hard drive (with a 7,200 RPM spindle speed) and the other with an Intel SSD—and then a third machine using a 45nm Core 2 Duo and an Intel SSD.

He ran through an automated video encoding task done in Sony Vegas and the difference in performance was quite astounding. The machine with the 45nm Core 2 Duo processor finished the task at a very brisk pace, and was closely followed by the Intel SSD/65nm Core 2 Duo combo.

The mechanical drive was orders of magnitude slower, as the two Intel SSD-equipped machines had completed the task even before it had started the actual encode process. Quite impressive, but details specifications of the machine were lacking, which makes me a little sceptical.

The drives themselves will come in both 1.8 inch and 2.5 inch form factors, while capacities will range from 32GB to 160GB. Intel says that the drives will help to increase system responsiveness and extend battery life at the same time.

http://images.bit-tech.net/news_images/2008/04/intel_to_release_its_own_ssds_later_this_year/article_img.jpg

:woot: That will bring SSD prices down for sure :D

[Shintai]

Nice, we need more big heavy competitors on the SSD market!

[Afterburner]

Intel + Micron and Samsung + Toshiba are in the race......who else is joining them :D

I wonder how the tie up with Intel and STMicroelectronics creating Numonyx will affect the Market.....isnt that like Dual Citizenship for Intel :confused:

[Zytek_Fan]

Micron is ramping up SSD production soon I believe :D

[XS Janus]

Intel blog here: http://blogs.intel.com/technology/2008/04/withdrawals_and_my_addiction_t.php#more
I quickly got used to this new way of doing things and after a short while I started to think that this was normal. Then the day came that my SSD was retrieved for data mining (that was the whole idea behind the trial) and my original hard-disk was put back into my laptop. There’s no way to feel the pain quite as intensely as having to go back – and that is why I’m particularly frustrated more than usual and why I’m so frustrated lately.

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[dinos22]

Micron is ramping up SSD production soon I believe :D

AWESOME NEWS

competition is going to get HAWT :D

[noobzed]

But the prices... ouch...

[hecktic]

Intel + Micron and Samsung + Toshiba are in the race......who else is joining them :D

I wonder how the tie up with Intel and STMicroelectronics creating Numonyx will affect the Market.....isnt that like Dual Citizenship for Intel :confused:

dont forget Super Talent

[Origin_Unknown]

160gb :shocked:

[Martijn]

Why is it that there are no 3.5" SSDs? I mean, it would have more space or be cheaper since less dense chips can be used...

[dinos22]

dont forget Super Talent

true
they were the first to start this

[BlueAqua]

I can't wait til these hit mainstream. Having Intel in the picture is always good to drive prices down.

[tiro_uspsss]

160gb :shocked:

there are quite a few bigger available iirc...

Why is it that there are no 3.5" SSDs? I mean, it would have more space or be cheaper since less dense chips can be used...

there are plenty 3.5" SSDs - mtron has a line-up of 3.5" :up:

[FischOderAal]

want... one NOW!

but only in my Notebook at first. :)

[Frank M]

Dadi Perlmutter said that Intel will release its own SSDs onto the market place later this year and claimed that they would deliver on the full promise of solid state disk technology, unlike so many of the drives currently on the market.


Intel, who's your Dadi? :D

Hopefully it will knock down prices.
Also, we need NUMBERS - sustained read, write

[G80]

Intels SSD (super star destroyer) will show no mercy ;)

[DeathReborn]

there are quite a few bigger available iirc...



there are plenty 3.5" SSDs - mtron has a line-up of 3.5" :up:

SuperTalent has a 256GB 3.5" SATA SSD, BiTMICRO have a 1.6TB 3.5" SCSI320 SSD which has some pretty decent speeds....


Up to 230 MB/sec Sustained Rates
320 MB/sec Burst Rate

[alexio]

Why is it that there are no 3.5" SSDs? I mean, it would have more space or be cheaper since less dense chips can be used...
There are plenty, but only because they can be installed more easily. 2.5" has plenty of place for anything out there. the densest chips also happen to be the cheapest ones by the way, so price isn't a valid reason to not use the latest ;)

[Martijn]

There are plenty, but only because they can be installed more easily. 2.5" has plenty of place for anything out there. the densest chips also happen to be the cheapest ones by the way, so price isn't a valid reason to not use the latest ;)

I guess I'm being ignorant lately :yepp:

[Gogeta]

I wonder how the tie up with Intel and STMicroelectronics creating Numonyx will affect the Market.....isnt that like Dual Citizenship for Intel :confused:

Numonyx will take a year or two to hit the consumer level and even then, Intel is big enough to market both. Think Celeron vs. Extreme Edition. :D

[Levish]

Intel, who's your Dadi? :D

Hopefully it will knock down prices.
Also, we need NUMBERS - sustained read, write

200ish read / 120ish writes unless my memory is fuzzy

doesn't matter much if the cost of entry is very high imo

[[XC] gomeler]

Well this is great news, hopefully it'll result in a gradual drop in prices across the board.

[twilyth]

Anybody know where Sandisk fits in? They've got to be a playa'.

[andressergio]

Intel, who's your Dadi? :D



LOL :rofl:

[triple_A]

yay! can't wait for these! :up:

[PrometheusCon]

Sweet. I love big company competition!

[Afterburner]

Isnt FUGGER playing with SSDs.....where are you hiding dude :D :p:

[XS Janus]

^HaHa so true.
*cricket sounds**

[[XC] NetburstXE]

This will definitely cause intense competition. I hope this causes the prices of SSD's to come down to a reasonable level.

[JamesAvery22]

More companies making SSD's is not going to bring the price of SSD's down...

Only thing that will is advances in NAND...

http://www.dramexchange.com/#fprice

MLC and SLC prices haven't fluctuated more than $2 for a long time.
Samsung is the only real producer of these chips. Until Samsung is forced to speed up their turn around time for cheaper & denser chips SSD's are going to stay at a very high price.

This should excite you more than more SSD "packagers":
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/01/intel-and-micron-develop-worlds-fastest-nand-kiss-ssd-rand/

If anyone can pull enough of Samsung's market share away to kick them into high gear it'd be Intel(for innovation) and Micron(existing fabs and capacity).

[Indes]

So your telling me we're going to have intel cpus, video cards, mobos and now ssd's...all we need now is some cases and cd drives and we'd be good to go

[Craftyman.]

Intel 140mm Fans :D

[SnipingWaste]

Theres Micron new high speed NAND flash.
http://www.micron.com/products/nand/high_speed/index

There are some samples now in SAS formate for server use at 250gig each and tear up a 15K RPM SAS drive. We might see them by the end of the year if all the OEM don't buy all of them up.

[DeathReborn]

Isnt FUGGER playing with SSDs.....where are you hiding dude :D :p:

He's probably counting the pennies to see if he can kit out the XS server with them.

[hecktic]

Intels SSD (super star destroyer) will show no mercy ;)

lol :rofl: :ROTF:

[Kingcarcas]

But i will have to wait until they're bigger than 200GB, i have a 200GB drive that i could probably hold onto for a few more years. It would be awesome to upgrade to a bigger and FASTER drive :D

[Frank M]

Intel 140mm Fans :D

Intel's already got fans (/fanbois) bigger than that :ROTF:

[mrcape]

But i will have to wait until they're bigger than 200GB, i have a 200GB drive that i could probably hold onto for a few more years. It would be awesome to upgrade to a bigger and FASTER drive :D

Bitmicro make up to 1.6tb using Nand but it's something like $40 per gb. or $60,000. :D

Really looking forward to one of these bad boys for my OS.

[Zytek_Fan]

Isnt FUGGER playing with SSDs.....where are you hiding dude :D :p:

Probably engineering samples from Micron :D

[xlink]

dont forget Super Talent

they're more of a reseller than a producer if I'm not mistaken.

[Afterburner]

In our Forum we have a assistant from MTRON. He says after the "Cebit" the prices drop a little bit (only in germany? i don´t know).

Also he says MTRON presents the new S-ATA II-SSD (Pro-Series) with 230/200MB/s. (read/write) :up: But i haven´t seen pics from these SSDs :shrug:
Wait a minute....

Read speeds of 190mb/s from Adata and 230mb/s from MTRON sounds killer but what kind of friggin RAID 0 Controller will run the MTRON model with a resonable pricetage !? An Areca 1220 controller already peaks @ 386mb/s and costs alot of money, it will however, snugly manage 2 x Adata models @ 380mb/s. Any RAID gurus to enlighten me/us..... :shrug:

[nn_step]

Pity not one company is even considering offering a 8GB SATA SSD at a decent price...

[Afterburner]

I have more Questions.....

With read speeds from Intel/Micron and Adata and MTRON that high in the near future, how is the ICH9R supposed to give us such high SINGLE DRIVE reads when it has a 80mb/s cap (there is supposed to be a fix) ?

If this fix works what is the ICH9R peak mb/s ?

What is the ICH10R peak read speed supposed to be ?

Do we have to change our costly ICH9R Lanpartys many of which are still damn new ?

:shrug:

[XS Janus]

^that bottleneck will probably be removed on the ICH10
New mobos for all ssd buyers = more $$$ for intel :D

[flopper]

I have more Questions.....

With read speeds from Intel/Micron and Adata and MTRON that high in the near future, how is the ICH9R supposed to give us such high SINGLE DRIVE reads when it has a 80mb/s cap (there is supposed to be a fix) ?

If this fix works what is the ICH9R peak mb/s ?

What is the ICH10R peak read speed supposed to be ?

Do we have to change our costly ICH9R Lanpartys many of which are still damn new ?

:shrug:

its fixed on newer boards x38 and x48.

[Afterburner]

its fixed on newer boards x38 and x48.
That explains it then, I noticed a Rev A2 ICH9R on the LP LT X48 . Anyone know its peak throughput ?

[Afterburner]

:rolleyes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Reheat/RevA2.jpg

[DFI pit bull]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Afterburner
Intel + Micron and Samsung + Toshiba are in the race......who else is joining them

I wonder how the tie up with Intel and STMicroelectronics creating Numonyx will affect the Market.....isnt that like Dual Citizenship for Intel

dont forget Super Talent


And OCZ

I wonder if 2.5 will be the new standard, if so then the case makers will have to alter the chassis to accomodate the smaller drives.

I hope i'll be able to replace my ageing raptor with a cheap and fast SSD soon.

[Pinacolada]

Very soon there are going to be sold "Intel only" computers - Intel CPU,GPU,motherboard with sound,Intel Wi-Fi and Wimax,Intel Storage.What will be left ? Seems only the case.

I wouldn't be surprised if Intel didn't start to sell computers under own brand.Dell and HP worst nightmare.

[XS Janus]

Intel server cases?

[Swatrecon_]

Very soon there are going to be sold "Intel only" computers - Intel CPU,GPU,motherboard with sound,Intel Wi-Fi and Wimax,Intel Storage.What will be left ? Seems only the case.

I wouldn't be surprised if Intel didn't start to sell computers under own brand.Dell and HP worst nightmare.

They make server cases, shouldn't be hard for them to make desktop cases at all.

[XS Janus]

Seems to me people are have "started" regreting PC being an open platform. :D
No matter, a single vendor platform will help weed out the incompetent hardware and software developers.

[BrowncoatGR]

Neither OCZ nor Supertalent manufacture any chips. They can't really affect pricing. Dont expect the higher capacities to become cheaper any time soon.

[pauldovi]

When is Western Digital and Seagate going to realize they will go the way of the dinosaur unless they jump on the SSD bandwagon?

[nn_step]

Seems to me people are have "started" regreting PC being an open platform. :D
No matter, a single vendor platform will help weed out the incompetent hardware and software developers.

:rofl: :ROTF: :wierd: :eleph: :rehab: :cheer2:

there is absolutely no method nor ability to weed out incompetence, unless you include government intervention. In which case all that will be left will be incompetence bribing government :rolleyes:

[Zytek_Fan]

When is Western Digital and Seagate going to realize they will go the way of the dinosaur unless they jump on the SSD bandwagon?

They really can't though.
They don't have fabs for manufacturing flash memory, and they aren't showing any interest in acquiring any or doing a fabless approach.

They're probably waiting for SSD prices to fall and for hard drives' market share in storage to drop off.
That probably won't happen until 2010, I would think...