New Unit specs

[dean0]

just bought a single stage phase change off ebay, heres the link http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEBTOX:IT&item=120239554311&_trksid=p3984.cTODAY.m238.lVI , iam paying £325 does that sound ok?
the guy said it has 300watts cooling capacity , is this enough to cool a quad core q6600 or the new 45nm cpu's?

'Has only been used for bench testing my new rig
with very little use, also some gaming whilst testing
my tri Sli rig you can run this unit 24/7 if you wish to and it
cools down to around -69 with no load and cools my
core 2 duo E6850 down to around -48 overclocked at 4.20 Ghz
1.560 Vcore.

This unit would be ideal for a heavy overclocked Qaud core

around 300 watts or more offering far better cooling
than a Mach 2 GT or Ls'

thanks for the help :D

[n00b 0f l337]

My only question is, why does it have a receiver..

[dean0]

My only question is, why does it have a receiver..

wts a resiever? is that bad?

[dean0]

wts a resiever? is that bad?

wt does that mean is there gona be somthing wrong with the unit?

[godmod]

maybe the filter/dryer acts as a receiver too => special feature :D

[Clemmaster]

There won't be any trouble using a receiver, except higher static pressure but there's nothing to worry about.

Which is more suprising is -69°C with no load and 300w heatload capable...

[Buckeye]

There won't be any trouble using a receiver, except higher static pressure but there's nothing to worry about.

Which is more suprising is -69°C with no load and 300w heatload capable...

Yeah if he says it cools down to -69c unloaded then why is he showing -39C unloaded in the pic ?

[dean0]

Yeah if he says it cools down to -69c unloaded then why is he showing -39C unloaded in the pic ?

do you think he is lyin about the spec i dnt wna pay 325 if it wont cool a quad core

[Buckeye]

I do not really know as I am rather new to this. I am sure that somebody here can reply with what they think is even possible with these units, or give you an idea on what to ask the guy about.

I just thought it was strange that he did not show a pic with it showing a -69c temp unloaded.

[killermiller]

Unless that camera has a super fast shutter speed, the fan isn't even moving.

[PPInDaHouse]

Unless that camera has a super fast shutter speed, the fan isn't even moving.

yes its because of fast shutter speed, leds are turned on ;)

[Pete]

I know whom built it, whom modded it and all i will say is your being cond mate.

I can build it for less with 2nd hand part or even new. 300w, only Sachs and 4qman have load testers for that. I have a max of 266w currently.

Pm if ya want to chat more

[runmc]

I know whom built it, whom modded it and all i will say is your being cond mate.

I can build it for less with 2nd hand part or even new. 300w, only Sachs and 4qman have load testers for that. I have a max of 266w currently.

Pm if ya want to chat more

So who built it Pete?? Who modded it? A 300W load tester is not that uncommon.

I don't think you know who built it Pete. I don't think you know anything about the cooler. To me it looks like a fine, cooler.

How ever I will say that it would surprise me if a SS could idle at -69c and hold a 300w load with the same charge. I think there must be some confusion in the wording. I could be wrong. Sorry if I stepped on any toes.

[Pete]

So who built it Pete?? Who modded it? A 300W load tester is not that uncommon.

I don't think you know who built it Pete. I don't think you know anything about the cooler. To me it looks like a fine, cooler.

How ever I will say that it would surprise me if a SS could idle at -69c and hold a 300w load with the same charge. I think there must be some confusion in the wording. I could be wrong. Sorry if I stepped on any toes.

Funny this is, seams to of kicked some issues off as my inbox and spam box has been manci. What you forget Ron is this is the UK, not the EU, USA, Oz etc etc. The phase lads here are all close and know everyone!

In the UK there is only 1 builder thats offical and other things.

Gray Mole, whom for time being has hung his tools up.

Then there is Ian, aka Xtremesytems on ebay and here or something thats in debt to Patrik, Andera and was dumped by a UK shop due to his dangrous builds and mods.

I've just had these 2 mails!





The current state of afairs regarding phase change in the uk is shocking.

Do what ya want with the above

edited for language content.

[runmc]

So who are you saying built it then? :confused: Please tell us.

Do you mind editing the language in the messages. ;)

[Pete]

So who are you saying built it then? :confused: Please tell us.

Do you mind editing the language in the messages. ;)

Nope as i feel it's about time XS was proven to show how it's covering things up such as scams and fraud which some are now going through via court!

I'll PM you the name as have been asked not to say out loud.

[n00b 0f l337]

I think can see from the email, Darkman?

[Pete]

Well the parts used are from varying builders once active within the Uk, all i will say. Christ know whom it is that mailed me but i've there IP and MAC and will abuse there end should i get more hate mail. Gotta love having MOD softwear

[Pete]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Phase-Change-cooling-Unit-Better-than-Vapochill_W0QQitemZ120241833950QQihZ002QQcategoryZ 3673QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Well it's back on there!!

[Xeon th MG Pony]

looks like he's knocked the temps up a bit!

[killermiller]

Ha, you guys talked him out of buying it.

RELISTED DUE TO TIMEWASTER !!

[Buckeye]

HAHA Temps changed. Went from -62c now its listed as -48c and showing -43c on the display :)

[Pete]

Ha, you guys talked him out of buying it.

Saved his life more like!

[runmc]

Nope as i feel it's about time XS was proven to show how it's covering things up such as scams and fraud which some are now going through via court!

I'll PM you the name as have been asked not to say out loud.

Pete you never sent me a PM with the guys name. I would like for you to stop hammering this guy. You have shown no proof of who built the cooler and you have no proof if the cooler is any good or not.

No one here has proof that the cooler does not cool well as I can see, you are just stepping out on a limb bashing this guy.

So let's stop with the bashing and flaming.

[Pete]

I've yet to of Pm'd you, i never said i had. I know exactly whom built it as i still have the MSN convo when he was telling me of it!

As asked i'll back down, but yet again XS is doing what it does best!

However i do recomend you might go look closer as to why certan people are no longer here or wanted but other memebers here!

[runmc]

I've yet to of Pm'd you, i never said i had. I know exactly whom built it as i still have the MSN convo when he was telling me of it!

As asked i'll back down, but yet again XS is doing what it does best!

However i do recomend you might go look closer as to why certan people are no longer here or wanted but other memebers here!


Nope as i feel it's about time XS was proven to show how it's covering things up such as scams and fraud which some are now going through via court!

I'll PM you the name as have been asked not to say out loud.

Read your own words Pete. (above and highlighted) You said you were going to PM the name of the guy who built the cooler. You are claiming that the guy on ebay is not the original builder and I would like for you to prove what you are saying is true or leave the guy alone. I'm not trying to hide or cover anything up. I'm trying to get you to explain your claims.

[dean0]

lol started one off here :D , thanks for the advice savin me £325. another one has popped up on ebay is this another overspeced death-trap, or is it anygood? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lian-Li-PC-7B-integrated-custom-phase-change-cooling_W0QQitemZ290219158318QQihZ019QQcategoryZ36 73QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

anyone on here who custom build phase change in uk? cheers

[Xeon th MG Pony]

That one sounds lagit.

[ruffus]

that one seems to be a decent system and does not sound like he is talking out his butt as well he shows you the inside on like that other one from what i can see who ever built this system took there time and did it right and some what neat

[A/\/\/\C]

Well i thought i best visit this thread to add my bit as im the guy who built the unit on Ebay, amazing there ruffus how you can deduce from pictures how well a unit performs, with qaulities like your you wouldn,t need a load tester to test a unit ever although the lian li one does seem pretty good to hold -70 "It cools to around -70 without load, and around -40 under 100% CPU usage (all 4 cores!)" wow thats some single stage
anyway im not here to review someone elses unit im here to say how it amazing how some of you can deduce how well a unit performs of mere photo,s or in my case "super fast led shutter speed photo,s" but all petty jokes aside my unit does actually perform very well and did despite not being sold to dean who was obliged to pay as he bid on it was let go from obligation by me without any negative feedback.
However the guy who did end up buying my unit had this to say when he left feedback for me "Cools my qaud core great temps Item just as described A+++ Many thanks" So it seems that taking picture with my super fast shutter speed camera worked and dispite the claims in this post it seems the fan does spin on the unit after all and that it does cool rather well ! and did end up selling for £350 so in the end the fun here was after all just fun but the real joke well that goes to PETE as i find it highly amusing that he seems to think we know one another when i can assure you he does not know me never met me and never will as for us having a conversation in msn well id like pete to show me this as weve never ever spoken a word to each other .
So pete explain yourself ! explain this conversation
we had id like you to answer

1 who built the unit, as i know i did

2 where did i get the condenser from

3 what kind of controller does the unit use

4 what kind of metal is the case made from

5 is it poweder coat or paint

6 exactly what components are inside and i dont mean copy paste from what i wrote on ebay.

so considering you know me, and considering we are supposed to of spoke on ebay you would be able to answer all of these, now before you do, be very carefull what you say as someone here at extreme systems does know what parts i used and does know how well the unit works condenser materials used etc so think very carefully in future Before you spout complete lies about someone you have never met.

And pete the uk,s a fair size its not a small as you seem to think
[QUOTE=Pete;2890178] What you forget Ron is this is the UK, not the EU, USA, Oz etc etc. The phase lads here are all close and know everyone!

In the UK there is only 1 builder thats offical and other things.

So according to you Pete i Dont exist, because i cant as you know all the phase lads in the uk there only 1 official phase guy, so how did we supposedly speak on msn i DONT EXIST, my 15 years of HVAC mean nothing.

im sorry pete but you realy shouldnt flame someone you know nothing about as for the rest of you who did nothing but criticise, i gues that human nature to bite like a pack of wolves, but im not phased by the little comments about cameras photo,s shutter speeds etc thats all fun, i just find it a little amazing how you can call a unit youv,e never physically seen Function..
PETE you,ve made yourself out to what you are you did that all on your own Sorry pal but il say it again we,ve "never met or spoke" and this is the first post ive ever made on XS shame you could,nt of greeted me with a little more friendliness instead of all the slander about a unit i built i only came here to clear up a few things but in the end i guess its the feedback i recieved of ebay that counts not the feedback of people ive never spoken too....

[runmc]

Hey A/\/\/\C -

:welcome: to XtremeSystems - I'm glad you decided to join us. I'm sure you have allot to contribute with 15 yrs of experience in hvac world.

Ron :D

[A/\/\/\C]

Thanks Ron I certainly will have a great deal to contribute ive visited XS quite a few times over the past years often
reading ppl,s post but never decided to join but glad i did thanks

John.

[Movieman]

Put's on Mod hat:
To Pete: (also PM'd a link to this so there's no missing it)
I think it's fair and reasonable to ask here that since Pete stood up here and did a character assignation on this guy he either backs up his words with facts or we are left with the thinking that this was a vicious attack on an innocent individual and in that case this forum would be better off without that type of person.
Essentially I'm saying " Back up what you said or go and slander people elsewhere"
Your choice..

[[XC] gomeler]

*rawr*

That being said, welcome to the forums A/\/\/\C! Asides from this single-stage have you got any other work to show off? Always like to see how people build stuff (and love to physically tear it apart :D). I hope you stick around, it's always nice to have intelligent and educated users to balance out the knuckleheads(myself included).


edit: Dave my man, we need to talk about these 13,469 posts you have made in the last 2.5 years. You are flooding the tubes and you are making us all look bad ;)

[killermiller]

:welcome: John.

Funny how this is turning out.:yepp:

[runmc]

:welcome: John.

Funny how this is turning out.:yepp:


Yeah it's like a "Fairy Tale" :up:

[A/\/\/\C]

Yes ive More things to Share with All i will do a build thread Not just On Phase units but also Evaps, Custom built load testers, Brazing, simple circuits for temprature controllers.
Anything i can help with Realy
Il, wait a short While Before i Post any new threads I Don,t Want Pete using information i post to claim he knows me i want him to reply first for tearing me apart without ever speaking to me and stuff but i will share some of the things ive got learnt and done when this little Sandstorm settles, And Gomeler You,ve been a great inspiration of mine i have a saved post of yours got me interested in doing a lot of my own stuff and others like Kayl Noob of l33t and many other of you guys some great stuff here.
But yes i promise i will Take Some pics of my next build i have a few cases ive got to start filling with parts
So Watch My space.


Ps thanks For the Greetz KillerMiller Hope you Liked the super fast shutterspeed camera i used in taking my pics lol ;)

[killermiller]

I do. My camera wouldn't take pics like that. 1800+ rpm looks to be sitting still.

[A/\/\/\C]

Taken using a pentax optio S4 fantasic little camera :up:
the fan is also a silent 1200 rpm not 1800 rpm

Still no Pete ?

[n00b 0f l337]

And Gomeler You,ve been a great inspiration of mine i have a saved post of yours got me interested in doing a lot of my own stuff and others like Kayl Noob of l33t and many other of you guys some great stuff here.
But yes i promise i will Take Some pics of my next build i have a few cases ive got to start filling with parts
So Watch My space.
Woohoo I got mentioned :)
Well your welcome and I'm glad to inspire :)

[godmod]

I am happy that you showed up A/\/\/\C, there were so many bad things going on here where customers had been screwed!
Nice to see that this is not just another example of what we saw so many times...

[Xeon th MG Pony]

Pete you maid the claim, you said you had proof, time to show up or give one convincing apology!

Welcome to the board HVAC, unfortunate way to get ya here, but you won't regret it!

[A/\/\/\C]

thanks guys :)

[pythagoras]

Welcome John :up:

Regards

John :rofl:

[ruffus]

@A/\/\/\C I don't know where you get off saying anything about me as you don't know me or any of the work i have done so to back up what i said, all i said was that there were pics of the inside so you could see the good workminship and that what he was saying about the unit sounded right

i have bolded and underlined what did not need to be said as i said nothing about you


Well i thought i best visit this thread to add my bit as im the guy who built the unit on Ebay, amazing there ruffus how you can deduce from pictures how well a unit performs, with qaulities like your you wouldn,t need a load tester to test a unit ever although the lian li one does seem pretty good to hold -70 "It cools to around -70 without load, and around -40 under 100% CPU usage (all 4 cores!)" wow thats some single stage
anyway im not here to review someone elses unit im here to say how it amazing how some of you can deduce how well a unit performs of mere photo,s or in my case "super fast led shutter speed photo,s" but all petty jokes aside my unit does actually perform very well and did despite not being sold to dean who was obliged to pay as he bid on it was let go from obligation by me without any negative feedback.
However the guy who did end up buying my unit had this to say when he left feedback for me "Cools my qaud core great temps Item just as described A+++ Many thanks" So it seems that taking picture with my super fast shutter speed camera worked and dispite the claims in this post it seems the fan does spin on the unit after all and that it does cool rather well ! and did end up selling for £350 so in the end the fun here was after all just fun but the real joke well that goes to PETE as i find it highly amusing that he seems to think we know one another when i can assure you he does not know me never met me and never will as for us having a conversation in msn well id like pete to show me this as weve never ever spoken a word to each other .
So pete explain yourself ! explain this conversation
we had id like you to answer

1 who built the unit, as i know i did

2 where did i get the condenser from

3 what kind of controller does the unit use

4 what kind of metal is the case made from

5 is it poweder coat or paint

6 exactly what components are inside and i dont mean copy paste from what i wrote on ebay.

so considering you know me, and considering we are supposed to of spoke on ebay you would be able to answer all of these, now before you do, be very carefull what you say as someone here at extreme systems does know what parts i used and does know how well the unit works condenser materials used etc so think very carefully in future Before you spout complete lies about someone you have never met.

And pete the uk,s a fair size its not a small as you seem to think
[QUOTE=Pete;2890178] What you forget Ron is this is the UK, not the EU, USA, Oz etc etc. The phase lads here are all close and know everyone!

In the UK there is only 1 builder thats offical and other things.

So according to you Pete i Dont exist, because i cant as you know all the phase lads in the uk there only 1 official phase guy, so how did we supposedly speak on msn i DONT EXIST, my 15 years of HVAC mean nothing.

im sorry pete but you realy shouldnt flame someone you know nothing about as for the rest of you who did nothing but criticise, i gues that human nature to bite like a pack of wolves, but im not phased by the little comments about cameras photo,s shutter speeds etc thats all fun, i just find it a little amazing how you can call a unit youv,e never physically seen Function..
PETE you,ve made yourself out to what you are you did that all on your own Sorry pal but il say it again we,ve "never met or spoke" and this is the first post ive ever made on XS shame you could,nt of greeted me with a little more friendliness instead of all the slander about a unit i built i only came here to clear up a few things but in the end i guess its the feedback i recieved of ebay that counts not the feedback of people ive never spoken too....

[ruffus]

on another note as i don't hold a grudge welcome:welcome: and sorry if i said anything to up set any one

[A/\/\/\C]

that one seems to be a decent system and does not sound like he is talking out his butt who ever built this system took there time and did it right and some what neat


@A/\/\/\C I don't know where you get off saying anything about me as you don't know me or any of the work i have done

umm but without knowing me or my unit but simply looking at a picture in a link on this thread you implied with these words
that one seems to be a "decent system", "talking out his butt" who ever built this system "took there time", and did it "right" , and some what "neat"


all i said was that there were pics of the inside so you could see the good workminship and that what he was saying about the unit sounded right
so indeed as you can see that wasnt all you said was it ? so as i originally said you deduced my unit was,nt decent and and that i was talking from my butt, long before i said anything about you !! , so im sorry mate but you are the one who wrote those words without knowing anything about me or the work i have done !!!
as movieman said about pete put in simple terms people shouldnt do a character assignation
on people whom they know nothing about i wasnt doing that to you i was simply defending myself after being flamed for talking from my butt and not doing things decent and not taking my time so what i said was only fair comment

but there is no need to reply its clear what you wrote above although i do accept your apology, and also on a different note thankyou for the welcome :)

[ruffus]

OK you are right i did say that stuff but when i said that stuff i was talking about the other one not yours if you look back that was that only thing i said and no where in that post did i say any thing about you or your system and for saying "talking out his butt" i was talking about that guy that build the other one not yours so again i am sorry if you took what i said the wrong way but lets just end this all as i never wanted to up set anyone all i wanted to say was that what that guy was saying sounded right and that the work looked neat so again i am sorry and let just forget about this all and get back to what we should all be talking about and that it phase change and not the bashing of people and the work

[A/\/\/\C]

there was only 2 systems involved you said this system seems ok refering to the lian li case mod you said it dosent seem like he,s talking out of his butt so meaning this system, meaning the lian li seems ok and he isnt butt talking, that can only mean one thing that the guy who built the other system which is me was talking out of his butt cos if your not saying i was talking from my butt then you are clearly contradicting yourself as you said the lian li sounds ok and the guy who built it doesn,t seem like he,s talking out of his butt, i think if you look back through the thread you will find i am 100% correct :up:

but you are correct for one thing and thats lets forget about it theres better things to discuss and i wasnt too upset by what you said :) and do accept your apology

[ruffus]

OK well i guess that seems like what i said and yes i can see how you took it the way you did and i guess in the future i have to make sure i word things in the right way i keep forgetting that most of us come from different country's and all speak in different ways and even some of use don't speak English very well (not saying you) so with that said i will not say another thing about this and again i am sorry about the way things came out and fell better about it all now that you forgive what was said

[Pete]

Sorry guys i'm away at the mo. In NYC for rest of Monday day then flying home. Been to a wedding with the missies.

Just had a look breifly over my mails and i have a lot regarding this topic co-insiding with a lot of PM's here. I need to check these ALL to see whats being said or asked of me, once i have then i can go from there and reply fully here.

Breifly someone asked if there are any UK builders. In short no, not one person at present. I have done mods, made so called mods safe and done a few for mates but thats it. There is a need and i might offer it but for now im not and the UK only has builders for there own useage. If enough cash is offered and you know what ya want i might be talked into helping.

Till i'm back and catched up on things i will not be able to reply fully with answers etc in here.

Ta dar

[A/\/\/\C]

Easy realy seems the main topic is to come up with the answers from page 2 of this thread theres questions for you to answer or apologies to make for staking false claims ! you,ve had time to make post on this forum in other topics funny how you havent had time to read your pm,s or this topic you were so keen to make claims earlier in the thread but not so quick to come up with any answers !!!

[Pete]

Like i said, varying mails regarding this topic, i need to sift through them. In doing so which does delay a reply being put here also hopefully will make nothing bad, nasty etc be said in here causing upset and yet more hate mail which has been sorted out! I think thats probs for now till i get round to them the right way to deal with it. By the way i am back in the UK @ Home now.

[Movieman]

Like i said, varying mails regarding this topic, i need to sift through them. In doing so which does delay a reply being put here also hopefully will make nothing bad, nasty etc be said in here causing upset and yet more hate mail which has been sorted out! I think thats probs for now till i get round to them the right way to deal with it. By the way i am back in the UK @ Home now.

Pete:
Please read this again. This isn't a game. Respond as asked by both Runmc and myself.
This doesn't take any more time than your other responses here.
What we are saying is either your next post is a response to the question asked or there will be actions taken by the staff.
I will again PM you a link to this so there is no possibility of any misunderstandings. If you value your account here you must reply.
Thank you for reading.

[Pete]

Pete:
Please read this again. This isn't a game. Respond as asked by both Runmc and myself.
This doesn't take any more time than your other responses here.
What we are saying is either your next post is a response to the question asked or there will be actions taken by the staff.
I will again PM you a link to this so there is no possibility of any misunderstandings. If you value your account here you must reply.
Thank you for reading.

Dave,

Okay so if i add to this thread answering ya self and Ron and it being wrong i'm going to more crap via mail, PM, MSN like i have been. I do not need that nor want it.

Also at sametime i want to see what these mails have to say so i can see for my self what the deal is and then can amend what i said in a post.

I will reply and i am not saying i wont. You have got to let me check the facts that possibly in mails here.

Plus i just got home, i've been away i run a pub, i got kids to sort. I'm sorry but some forum, some bunhc of guys wanting answers is not on top of my list. My family and living is first and sadly i've got a fair bit to sort inregards to the pub as we aint had a delivery!

I will be back and i will answer. Just when i can go through the 40+ mails that are waiting for me.

You should know better anyway Dave on a personal experinces of getting involved. If you need a name Eric that still ows me and Pete a lot of money

[Movieman]

Dave,

Okay so if i add to this thread answering ya self and Ron and it being wrong i'm going to more crap via mail, PM, MSN like i have been. I do not need that nor want it.

Also at sametime i want to see what these mails have to say so i can see for my self what the deal is and then can amend what i said in a post.

I will reply and i am not saying i wont. You have got to let me check the facts that possibly in mails here.

Plus i just got home, i've been away i run a pub, i got kids to sort. I'm sorry but some forum, some bunhc of guys wanting answers is not on top of my list. My family and living is first and sadly i've got a fair bit to sort inregards to the pub as we aint had a delivery!

I will be back and i will answer. Just when i can go through the 40+ mails that are waiting for me.

You should know better anyway Dave on a personal experinces of getting involved. If you need a name Eric that still ows me and Pete a lot of money

Keep to the point at hand please.
Ok, you just got home and I agree that you should have time to verify your facts. I will make sure that you do have that time and that your not distracted from what was asked by responding to any other threads here.
I'll put in a 3 day ban so that you will have no distractions while you check your facts..
See you in three days with your response.
Thanks for reading.

[runmc]

Easy realy seems the main topic is to come up with the answers from page 2 of this thread theres questions for you to answer or apologies to make for staking false claims ! you,ve had time to make post on this forum in other topics funny how you havent had time to read your pm,s or this topic you were so keen to make claims earlier in the thread but not so quick to come up with any answers !!!

Hey John -

To avoid any confrontations between you and Pete, I think it would be a good idea for you to just kick back and build another cooler or make us up a nice guide. Movieman and I will work with Pete on getting your name cleared. If you have any concerns, please PM one of us or any Admin.

thanks
Ron :)

[Movieman]

Hey John -

To avoid any confrontations between you and Pete, I think it would be a good idea for you to just kick back and build another cooler or make us up a nice guide. Movieman and I will work with Pete on getting your name cleared. If you have any concerns, please PM one of us or any Admin.

thanks
Ron :)

Yes, agreed, and a nice custom unit that would hold a dual cpu system that had say a 325w load to minus 50C would be nice..
HMM..Now who could use such a unit..:wasntme:

[A/\/\/\C]

lol ok guys no problem im not looking for confrontation just some acusations cleared, il get on a cooler ive a few ideas in mind beetween an autocascade and and a single stage il keep you informed il start a new thread just waiting for some bits too arrive

[maverik-sg1]

You know I read this post with interest and look forward to seeing the conclusion in the near future.

And to A/\/\/\C looking forward to seeing your work in teh build sections as well, UK does need local phase builders for sure.

Cheers

Mav

[ruffus]

hey A/\/\/\C i know that we got off to a bad start but i was wondering why you decided to put a receiver in to a single stage system (just picking your brain) or getting the madness of you ways as most single stage units we don't put them in (please explain) as i am building a single stage unit right now and it will have two evaps for a dual CPU Mobo and we wondering if doing something like what you did would help (by putting in a receiver and suction accumulator )

[A/\/\/\C]

ok its a custom built receiver just before the filter dryer and its tiny in size.
the custom accumulator is also 22mm tube and is only a precaution so no liquid goes back to compressor to cause sludging too big an acumulator and you loose suction pressure a little which wont help temps.

On larger refrigeration units the receiver acts to store liquid so it has somewhere to go when the TEX slows down the liquid demand and closes, then as it opens there a good supply of pressured liquid there.

In a cap system it isnt needed but the one i made in my system is extremely small.

heres something for you to try if you have enough stuff for a test build make a sinlge stage then in line after the filter dryer put your cap line into the 22 mm tube then cap line out when the system is running tilt the 22mm tube so only gas makes it into the cap tube and watch the temps rise, then tilt it the other way so all the liquid gather makes it to the cap tube whatch the temps drop real fast it was playing with different setups that made me use this tiny receiver in my last unit i built im talking 1 to 2cm in height 22mm dia with the liquid line direct onto the filter dryer.

in large system sometimes a larger condenser can be used to act as a kind of reciever and therefore some systems with greaater capacity condensers dont need receivers in my case im only using a tiny condenser so think of it as a place for the liquid to gather before going to the metering device so in theory it is a receiver of sorts but not like the one used in a tev tex system its only to cue the liquid after condenser,and before filter drier.

Its also a good place for the small amount of oil to mix with the r290 in the system as propane carries oil realy well so i just use the little setup i make i dont use a normal receiver on a ss sytem there would be no real point il post a little pic of what i do remember theres no gaurentee that 100% liquid makes it into the cap line there can be gas that hasnt quite condensed makes it to the cap tube which isnt good for cooling.
so i do this to ensure liquid and no gas makes it to the cap line
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/roberts0n/XS/u.JPG

[ruffus]

@A/\/\/\C thanks for explaining that to me would you have a pic of the reciver that you made just so i can understand better as i do much better when i have pics with the explination so if yoou could if not know big deal and so what you are saying is because i am going to use a big condessor that i will not need anything like this

[n00b 0f l337]

Hey if you could try and use some pronunciation, hard to tell what your saying.
No biggie, just helps.

A receiver would be rather determinental though I'd think with a captube, just raise your static charge way up and waste refrigerant...

[DetroitAC]

Cracked my wife up! (she's an English professor) I think you mean punctuation Nol. :rofl:

edit: we weren't laughing at A/\/\/\C, but at Nol's attempt to correct him. Writing like that is an everyday occurrence for her.

:welcome: to our forum A/\/\/\C!

[n00b 0f l337]

Hey! Hahaha ask DetroitAC about the way I say things. Hands can't keep up with the braid, neither can my mouth ;)

EDIT: Hey pronunciation works too! Imagine if he tried to give what he posted as a speech! ;)

[A/\/\/\C]

Correct nOl that is why its not realy a receiver and extremly tiny its more of a small connector between condenser and filter that traps a little liquid before cap line and as asked why i explained its not realy a receiver as receivers go.
but it causes no loss or detriment to the system i tried it without there was no difference in cooling temps and doesent seem to waste refrigerant probably as its so small and no ruffus you wont need anything like this, and if your building a ss dont use a receiver just use the correct cap tube for the size of your condenser and correct length and charge the system correctly, and sorry i have no pics only what i scetched but its of no importance as you dont need one in a captube setup as i explained above its only for tex tev systems
sorry if you meant my fullstops pauses etc you have no chance i left school at 12 sorry il try for you

[ruffus]

thanks

[A/\/\/\C]

Any chance of an explanation from pete ive still had no response ? i see your activly posting
i was just wondering why you still havent replied ?

[piotres]

Weird evap and enclosure ...bit retro style :rolleyes:.

Have You identified builder of this unit ? :)

[DagoDuck]

Yes, it was mentioned in the last pages.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2894328&postcount=30

[Pete]

Any chance of an explanation from pete ive still had no response ? i see your activly posting
i was just wondering why you still havent replied ?

I belive my ban was due to this topic. Both bans i had. I've PM'd Movieman as the PM's i had where off him and thats it. I've heard nothing back so i belive what i put to him and what i have done so far has been okay.

When i was given the ban i had nothing from XS at all so im clueless to exactly everything. No good in banning etc unless they make the system contact you outside of XS and also give you ways to contact them.

Meh

[A/\/\/\C]

No comment its not in my hands.

[runmc]

Let me remind you Pete. You came in here running down the cooler on ebay and claimed that A/\/\/\C didn't build the cooler. So I asked you who built it and you never answered.
You called A/\/\/\C a liar in so many words. You slandered his reputation and cost him a sale on ebay.
I am asking you again to either tell us who built the cooler or apologize to A/\/\/\C. If you are not willing to do one of the two, actions will be takin. You slandered him in public so let's get it cleared up in public.



So who built it Pete?? Who modded it? A 300W load tester is not that uncommon.

I don't think you know who built it Pete. I don't think you know anything about the cooler. To me it looks like a fine, cooler.

How ever I will say that it would surprise me if a SS could idle at -69c and hold a 300w load with the same charge. I think there must be some confusion in the wording. I could be wrong. Sorry if I stepped on any toes.

[[XC] riptide]

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Great to have another 15 years experience on top of the centuries thats here in XS.

IN UK also? Cool I'll know where to send my SS for a MOD at some point. (Ireland here) ;)