Intel To Delay P45 Chipset

[REBEL900]

To mid June..

Intel is delaying the launch schedule of its P45 chipset from originally in May to mid-June, according to sources at motherboard makers.

The delay of the chipset is due to problems over compatibility between the chipset's PCI Express x16 port and graphics cards, noted the sources, adding that Intel has notified them that the problem should be solved and ready to launch 2-4 weeks behind the original launch schedule.

Some motherboard makers pointed out that the delay will give them more time to clear up their P35 inventory, however, the comparability problem will surely damage Intel's image over technological development.

Intel will now announce the P45 chipset during Computex 2008, however, actual motherboard shipments will not begin until mid-June, noted the sources.

Source (http://http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20080327PD217.html)

[Omastar]

And with P45, x8/x8 Crossfire is finally possible on a mainstream chipset, yes?

[K404]

:( Was hoping to jump on P45 fairly sharpish. Dont want delays :(

[largon]

What is the novelty of P45 that P35 lacks?
x8/x8 PCIe 2.0?

[Helmore]

And with P45, x8/x8 Crossfire is finally possible on a mainstream chipset, yes?

Yes, although Intel hasn't given any official information on that subject yet, but they haven't said anything about this chipset so far :p:

What is the novelty of P45 that P35 lacks?
x8/x8 PCIe 2.0?

Maybe higher officially supported memory and FSB speeds.....

[Omastar]

Could it feasibly 'officially' support 1600FSB CPUs?

[STaRGaZeR]

65nm :)

[L1m1t.NL]

What is the novelty of P45 that P35 lacks?
x8/x8 PCIe 2.0?

Maybe the 65nm process instead of the old 90nm (X48, P35)?

[Helmore]

65nm :)

Which could also lead to lower power consumption.....

[STaRGaZeR]

Lower power consumption, more overclockability, less dissipated heat, etc. Can't wait, I only need 1 PCIe 2.0 :D

[Swatrecon_]

65nm :)

Maybe the 65nm process instead of the old 90nm (X48, P35)?

Chipset Process? I wasn't really aware that the P35 chipset was a problem.

[Gen]

What is the novelty of P45 that P35 lacks?
x8/x8 PCIe 2.0?

Also i believe it has ICH10.

[Kai Robinson]

Dammit - and i wanted a new board NOW :(

[g1raffe]

Chipset Process? I wasn't really aware that the P35 chipset was a problem.
Theres not, but it can always be improved.

P45 adds a lot of minor tweaks.

[squilliam]

Intel's development cycle is WAAAYY too short.
I love how Nvidia makes their motherboards last so long.
Instead of a whole new chipset every (however long), they increase support on existing boards.

I can still feel the burn they gave me when they decided to not enable support 1333 chips on the 975X.
I can tell you right now. the next mobo I buy won't be an Intel.

[g1raffe]

975X was somewhat of a dinosaur by the time 1333 CPU's come out though wasn't it?

[Kasparz]

Yep. 975X was first chipset to officially support Core2Duo.
And whats wrong of Intel releasing new mainstream chipsets every year? I can't see anything wrong with this.
Is that the reason of nVidia can't make proper chipset? Only good chipsets with integrated memory controller from nVidia was nF2 and nF790i, some nF680i too.

[geo]

hopefully they can manage to release this before nehelem :P

[Shintai]

Intel's development cycle is WAAAYY too short.
I love how Nvidia makes their motherboards last so long.
Instead of a whole new chipset every (however long), they increase support on existing boards.

I can still feel the burn they gave me when they decided to not enable support 1333 chips on the 975X.
I can tell you right now. the next mobo I buy won't be an Intel.

Thats a joke right? Not even to talk about Yorkfield and the 780i before 790i came.

Try see what most things work on. 680i or P965.

[Nicksterr]

I wonder if this applies to G45 too, since I'm going matx.

[XS Janus]

^me to.

Unfortuneatly, delays of P45, IMO probably mean we won't see Nehalem on desktop for at least 9 months after P45 release.
Reason being...they will milk cheap c2d revamps for all that it's worth and take the cream from New CPUs just because they can. Just look what's happened to 45nm desktop Quads...

The Empire strikes back!

[Shintai]

^me to.

Unfortuneatly, delays of P45, IMO probably mean we won't see Nehalem on desktop for at least 9 months after P45 release.
Reason being...they will milk cheap c2d revamps for all that it's worth and take the cream from New CPUs just because they can. Just look what's happened to 45nm desktop Quads...

The Empire strikes back!

That makes no sense. It would require Intel to ramp Nehalem instantly to all volumes. Even P965 sells today. P45 and C2D/C2Qs will still be sold in all 2009. Desktop Nehalem comes in Q1 2009.

Releasing P45 now would mean what, they dont sell P35?

Too much tinfoil :D

[[XC] gomeler]

Wonder if the X48/P45 delays are to clear out inventory or really due to engineering issues. I'd like to see P45 before summer as it has a lot of potential. The last of LGA775 chipsets, hope it goes out with a bang.

[XS Janus]

That makes no sense. It would require Intel to ramp Nehalem instantly to all volumes. Even P965 sells today. P45 and C2D/C2Qs will still be sold in all 2009. Desktop Nehalem comes in Q1 2009.

Releasing P45 now would mean what, they dont sell P35?

Too much tinfoil :D

Actually that WAS my point.:confused: Ofcourse they won't ramp up all volumes.
They will milk P45, and extreme Nehalem for a long time, and trickle down slowly.
I would consider it a great thing if mainstream desktop Nehalem comes in 1Q 2009, since right now, mainstream 45nm Quads are pretty rare for a simmilar reason.
But I hope you are right on 1Q thing for more than just Extreme desktop version. :)

[Dalten]

Aren't the newer quad cores limited in overclocking by chipsets due to their lower multiplier?

Might the P45 steal the OC show if it can tolerate a higher bus speed than X48/790i?

[3NZ0]

Intel's development cycle is WAAAYY too short.
I love how Nvidia makes their motherboards last so long.
Instead of a whole new chipset every (however long), they increase support on existing boards.

I can still feel the burn they gave me when they decided to not enable support 1333 chips on the 975X.
I can tell you right now. the next mobo I buy won't be an Intel.
Is this a joke?

The 680i chipset has been around for far too long, there is so much wrong with it that I would probably hit the word count per post If I went into detail the problems that it has. The 780i chipset is just a 680i with a pci-e bridge, an amazingly cheap trick I'm not impressed by
Their 790i is a new chip but still has quite a few problems.

Now, second generation fsb, 1333 support on the 975x? I have a 975x chipset in my p5wd2e, that board doesn't even support conroe, it was out months before conroe, that's how old it is.

I would rather Intel do often refreshes on chipsets than try to keep something going as long as humanly possible like mvidia. I also wouldn't mind waiting longer if they are going to sort out errata.

After all my 875p, 975x, p35 and x38 experiences on the desktop have all been problem free when it comes to the system board. Whereas my 3 attempts at 680i were all failed.