NEW Xigmatek HSF - 4x 8mm Heatpipes!

[tuksonrider]

It's the Xigmatek HDT-S1284 (Achilles)

New design incorporates 4x 8mm pipes in a staggard configuration (something like the TRUE-120).

Note, the S1283 used 3x 8mm pipes.

http://www.xigmatek.com/product/air-achilless1284.php

I'd love to get my hands on this! Hopefully, they keep the price close to the S1283 to keep things competitive!

[fng77]

wow, nice cooler. It surley will give the true a run for its money.

I Have the S1283, very happy with it :up: and one more heatpipe cant hurt

[Vapor]

I'd like to try that....:yepp:

[poohball]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233014&Tpk=sd964
what about this?
found this on newegg today, is the SD964. with 4 hp and if mounting s 92mm fan, do you think it will get close to S1283?

[lowtcell]

Oh great, a better HDT cooler 5 days after I buy the S1283.

[poohball]

I wouldn't think it will match or beat S1283 though.........I jsut want to know how much better than the S963

[gr8golf]

Oh great, a better HDT cooler 5 days after I buy the S1283.

I bought mine about 3 weeks ago. :mad:

[[XC] 4X4N]

I bet that will kick ass. Now if they would just get rid of the damn push pins!

[Asgard_thor]

the base looks weird :/ lol

[Emerica]

4X4N;2850423']I bet that will kick ass. Now if they would just get rid of the damn push pins!

Yes, I was just thinking the same thing!

[wa2000]

Time to sell my S1283 and wait for this....

I bought my S1283 just two weeks ago.....:(

[LuckyNV]

the base looks weird :/ lol

I agree, I so frowned at that little picture :p:

[3lfk1ng]

I just wanna see the reviews before I drop $90 on the True ultra-120 extreme with 2 S-flexF fans for my new build.

[ChuckM]

The link says it's push pins.
Damnit
Only weighs 60 more grams that the 3 pipe.

[Ar3s]

whats a rifle bearing fan ?

[3lfk1ng]

perhaps higher quality?

[RADCOM]

I bought the S1283 as an interim before I finish the watercooling project and I must say I'm pretty impressed. Temps are pretty cool and it's not that noisy; a fair price as well. An extra set of cooling pipes can only be a good thing?

[Vapor]

whats a rifle bearing fan ?
perhaps higher quality?
In the same family as the sleeve bearing is basically all I know. Supposedly longevity of ball bearing and low noise of sleeve...not sure about positional deficiencies though.

[3lfk1ng]

Don't sleeve bearings kinda suck though? (Directed at Vapor)

[Ar3s]

like those hybrid fan bearings ? one ball one sleeve ? wait a sec those were terrible.

[cegras]

In the same family as the sleeve bearing is basically all I know. Supposedly longevity of ball bearing and low noise of sleeve...not sure about positional deficiencies though.

I think rifle bearing is where they put rifling into the axle, which in turn causes it to act like corkscrew, moving oil constantly around the axle. It's supposed to solve the problem of sleeve bearings being mounted horizontally. Check it out on wikipedia.

[Craftyman.]

Nice, I'm getting it and its goin' in my box to replace my Tuniq tower. I'll see if I can get a review up, but when is it being released?

[Ar3s]

i guess achilless (achilles) heel is that it uses push pins.

[delewin]

i guess achilless (achilles) heel is that it uses push pins.

Hi Ar3s,

I like your sense of humour. (Never mind the quality, feel the width.)

But putting that aside, is there any other pictures of the S1284 or perhaps a review?

Looking forward to some good news,

David

[LuckyNV]

I think rifle bearing is where they put rifling into the axle, which in turn causes it to act like corkscrew, moving oil constantly around the axle. It's supposed to solve the problem of sleeve bearings being mounted horizontally. Check it out on wikipedia.

from wiki
Rifle bearing fans are similar to sleeve bearing, but are even quieter and have almost as much lifespan as ball bearings. The bearing has a spiral groove in it that pumps fluid from a reservoir. This allows them to be mounted vertically (unlike sleeve bearings), since the fluid being pumped lubricates the top of the shaft.[5] The pumping also ensures sufficient lubricant on the shaft, reducing noise, and increasing lifespan.

wow very interesting, saw a cheap Xigmatek fan being sold with rifle bearing, I dismissed it, a few users reported it being "a very good quiet fan that pushes good air" he even said it is better than his S-Flex F.
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=700900

[cegras]

The one thing I'm worried about is because the heatpipes are staggered, the HDT is stagger as well.

But Xigmatek is definitely refreshin, pushing for the top spot. When will we see 6 heatpipe HDT? : P

[cavarr]

new 4xhdt
PENTAGRAM FREEZONE HP-120 AlCu KARAKORUM
This cooling in the Poland costs only 40$, for the comparison Xigmatek HDT-S1283 cost 58$ with the tax. :clap:
http://www.pentagram.eu/press_center/Karakorum-Cooler-for-Extreme-Applications

[angelreaper]

new 4xhdt
PENTAGRAM FREEZONE HP-120 AlCu KARAKORUM
This cooling in the Poland costs only 40$, for the comparison Xigmatek HDT-S1283 cost 58$ with the tax. :clap:
http://www.pentagram.eu/press_center/Karakorum-Cooler-for-Extreme-Applications

This is a Ice hammer IH-4400 B:
http://www.icehammer.com.tw/?r=44
Review for Ice Hammer IH-4400 A/B
http://www.overclockers.ru/lab/28018.shtml

[fng77]

This is a Ice hammer IH-4400 B:
http://www.icehammer.com.tw/?r=44
Review for Ice Hammer IH-4400 A/B
http://www.overclockers.ru/lab/28018.shtml



Thats some nice coolers. Like the "all copper" concept

[poohball]

woo that looks pretty nice!

[Craftyman.]

I'm likin' what I'm seein' maybe I will wait to buy the Xigmatech and see these coolers reviewed :rofl:

[AN00BIS]

Good Cooling Site with reviews of all the Xigmateks and various other HSFs
www.FrostyTech.com

[Asgard_thor]

when is the release day of this product?

[cegras]

Frostytech is strange. They have a TRUE being beaten by a TRU

[cabbspapp]

They used two different fans, one they couldn't find the specs for.

[vaio]

My 1283 experience has it 6c better than a freezer7 pro......pretty good but not the worldbeater some reviews have claimed.

*Though I may have over-appled the AS5*

1283 not a world beater but a great budget cooler......certainly worth the £18 I paid.

[Asgard_thor]

anyone know the release date?

[rusty]

how's it vs thermalright x120 ? anyone?

[LuckyNV]

My 1283 experience has it 6c better than a freezer7 pro......pretty good but not the worldbeater some reviews have claimed.

*Though I may have over-appled the AS5*

1283 not a world beater but a great budget cooler......certainly worth the £18 I paid.

where in UK did you get it?

[angelreaper]

where in UK did you get it?

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=700899

[vaio]

where in UK did you get it?

Scan.

[rusty]

on that scan site pic shows only 6 heatpipes when new will have 8.

[LuckyNV]

on that scan site pic shows only 6 heatpipes when new will have 8.

that is 3 heatpipes, the 4 heatpipe version is 1284

and thanks for the link :)

[KTE]

wow, nice cooler. It surley will give the true a run for its money.
I Have the S1283, very happy with it :up: and one more heatpipe cant hurtThat's what I had thought initially. :up:

But I have reservations of the stock fan on the 1284, it is much weaker than the one used on the 1283. I never use stock fans anyway, if I can, I'll change it out for my modded +90CFM ones and just leave it at 5V. My GPUs make more noise than they ever could. But the stock fan on the 1283 was very good IMO anyway but doubt very much this would be.
Oh great, a better HDT cooler 5 days after I buy the S1283.
I bought mine about 3 weeks ago. :mad:
Time to sell my S1283 and wait for this....
I bought my S1283 just two weeks ago.....:(
Haha, this is exactly the position I'm in! :D

My old one was damaged, some girl I "know" threw it out of the 6th floor flat balcony :p:
New one just arrived 2 weeks ago, with a 152CFM Delta at 5V 860RPM, it works great.
on that scan site pic shows only 6 heatpipes when new will have 8.
Scan will have them in soon, I'll try getting a date. They'll be first and official in UK. The one they show yet is a 1283, the old one, the new one is prefixed by "Achilles" and "1284" just so you can distinguish easier. [edit, LNV got there before me :)].
Bear in mind though, for £22, the 1283 is a very good buy, it is no slouch at all. Note though, there is another HDT-D1284 from Xigmatek which is not this one, it is worse than the 1283 and a different design.

Here's the XIGMATEK HDT-D1284 and Scythe ZIPANG reviewed where the ZIPANG beat the TRUE inside a case: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/scythe-zipang-xigmatek-hdtd1284.html

You'll see the other new Xigmatek there. ;)

[g1raffe]

Looks interesting, cant wait for reviews.

I like the see through orange fan.

[fng77]

I bought mine about 3 weeks ago. :mad:


I dont think we have to worry too much. The S1283 is still a good cooler well worth its price. To be honest I think the Icehammer coolers posted by angelreaper will perform better than both s1283 and 1284 (achilles). If they are to relese them outside of russia at a resoneble price I will sure get me one of those

[chevell]

new 4xhdt
PENTAGRAM FREEZONE HP-120 AlCu KARAKORUM
This cooling in the Poland costs only 40$, for the comparison Xigmatek HDT-S1283 cost 58$ with the tax. :clap:
http://www.pentagram.eu/press_center/Karakorum-Cooler-for-Extreme-Applications
Not to mention they work better. Maybe you need to shop at newegg LOL.:D

[angelreaper]

Some big pics of Achilles S1284, enjoy:
http://hardwarebg.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1449717&postcount=2462

[KTE]

Some big pics of Achilles S1284, enjoy:
http://hardwarebg.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1449717&postcount=2462Thanks for the pics, love the quality and detail on them :up:

The fan on that cooler actually makes it looks good IMO, even though aesthetics don't matter to me on such things. Not loving the base though.

[KTE]

It's the Xigmatek HDT-S1284 (Achilles)

New design incorporates 4x 8mm pipes in a staggard configuration (something like the TRUE-120).

Note, the S1283 used 3x 8mm pipes.

http://www.xigmatek.com/product/air-achilless1284.php

I'd love to get my hands on this! Hopefully, they keep the price close to the S1283 to keep things competitive!

I saw your copy/paste post on ocforums too. :D
No sign of S1284 yet.

I had no idea Xigmatek made <1200W power supplies either... until a few hours back. :shrug:

[Ender17]

well the 1283 and TRUE are basically tied
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article818-page5.html
I think the 1284 will edge out the TRUE

[Achill3uS]

hmm this cooler looks amazing and name is Achilles, i need to get one asap :D

[JaYp146]

There's a coupon code for Newegg through HardForum that allows you to get the 1283 for $37 shipped through April 14th. Hopefully some information about the 1284's pricing (or a review?) will surface before then. :p:

[bobov]

First S1284 review.

http://forum.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=177376

For those cannot read Chinese, basically, no different between S1283 and S1284 with same 120mm fan for E8500 OC 4.0GHz @ 1.328v vcore .

[[XC] itznfb]

First S1284 review.

http://forum.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=177376

For those cannot read Chinese, basically, no different between S1283 and S1284 with same 120mm fan for E8500 OC 4.0GHz @ 1.328v vcore .

there wouldn't be any difference at 1.328vcore i don't think. i'm pretty sure you'd see a difference at 1.4+

[poohball]

yeah I would think so too, for that kind of vcore, not enough heat to let the 4pipes design shine.

[Richard Dower]

Is this heatsink mounted with push pins or a backplate?

[adamsleath]

i think a bolt thru kit is available for 1283...anyway i'm not keen on pushpins :yawn: otherwise this could be nice if the price is kept low like the 1283

[[XC] itznfb]

so far all the xigmatek's are pushpin mounted. the thermalright 775 bolt through kit works well as a replacement though.

[angelreaper]

itznfb;2919939']so far all the xigmatek's are pushpin mounted. the thermalright 775 bolt through kit works well as a replacement though.

Xigmatek 775 Crossbow:
http://www.xigmatek.com/product/accessory-crossbow-adk-i7753.php
http://www.xigmatek.com/product/accessory-crossbow-adk-i7751.php

[[XC] itznfb]

Xigmatek 775 Crossbow:
http://www.xigmatek.com/product/accessory-crossbow-adk-i7753.php
http://www.xigmatek.com/product/accessory-crossbow-adk-i7751.php

that's essentially the thermalright bracket. this one would work a little better since the brackets retain the springs a little better. might be a little harder to find though.

[poohball]

well the bolt on kit is free right now if you contact Xigmatek after purchase their HSU, free shipping too =D
Thinking how can I get 1 more set in case I am buying the S1284....

[KTE]

Looks like mid-May is the new ETA :(

[Reefa_Madness]

well the bolt on kit is free right now if you contact Xigmatek after purchase their HSU, free shipping too =D
Thinking how can I get 1 more set in case I am buying the S1284....

Where did you get that info?

Do you have a link to a anything that I could use to request it, vs just sending them an email and asking for a free bolt-on kit for my cooler?


Edit:
I found this, but it states in the post that it was only thru the end of Feb that you could get the free kit.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=178137

[zfactor]

i was told they were still honoring this...

[Chukundur]

S1284 is not better than S1283, because the surface of the HSI on LGA775 CPU's can't cover the hole cooler surface. It covers 2,1/2 pipes, for example http://www.overclockers.ru/images/lab/2008/03/07/XIGMATEK/22_xk_thermob.jpg
That is not exactly the S1284 surface (D1284's), but the size is the same.

[[XC] itznfb]

S1284 is not better than S1283, because the surface of the HSI on LGA775 CPU's can't cover the hole cooler surface. It covers 2,1/2 pipes, for example
<snip>
That is not exactly the S1284 surface (D1284's), but the size is the same.

the heat is still being transferred through the heatpipes. the IHS doesn't need to cover the whole base.

[Chukundur]

itznfb;2923328']the heat is still being transferred through the heatpipes. the IHS doesn't need to cover the whole base.

The results shows difference.
And in that case what is the point of HDT?

[Richard Dower]

Cleaning that base is gonna be a nightmare!...the spaces between the heatpipes will get filled with TIM and it will be very difficult to remove later.

[Richard Dower]

S1284 is not better than S1283, because the surface of the HSI on LGA775 CPU's can't cover the hole cooler surface. It covers 2,1/2 pipes, for example http://www.overclockers.ru/images/lab/2008/03/07/XIGMATEK/22_xk_thermob.jpg
That is not exactly the S1284 surface (D1284's), but the size is the same.

Why is the CPU not centered better?...shirley the TIM square should be dead center, not on the upper part of the base??

[zfactor]

hmm i would tend to agree that seems like its pointless or more marketing imo..maybe we'll see more results but it seems like they should have maybe went to a slightly smaller diam heatpipe so they were fully covering the cpu better..

[[XC] itznfb]

unless the 964 base is bigger than the 1284's i don't understand that picture. my 964 covers my Q6600's IHS 100%.

[bobov]

itznfb;2923725']unless the 964 base is bigger than the 1284's i don't understand that picture. my 964 covers my Q6600's IHS 100%.

S964 use 6mm heatpipes, while S1284 use 8mm heatpipes. :)

[[XC] itznfb]

S964 use 6mm heatpipes, while S1284 use 8mm heatpipes. :)

right, which would mean more flat surface area on the 1284. therefore, if the IHS fits flat on the 964, then it should easily sit flat on the 1284.

[Kosior]

Here's Xigmatek HDT-S1284 Achilles review:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/676326/+0

[g1raffe]

Here's Xigmatek HDT-S1284 Achilles review:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/676326/+0

Doesn't look all that impressive, not much gain over the S1283, although perhaps it will need a quad core to truly shine. ;)

[darksythe]

well, here is another :)

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/682271

i didnt have the S1283 to compare with

[poohball]

IFX-14 and TRUE.....is IFX-14 suppose to be better at all?

[Worthy]

well, here is another :)

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/682271

i didnt have the S1283 to compare with

Is it just me, or was that guy getting some bad idle temps?
My rs1283 sits at 35c idle with a q6600 at 3.7, and I have only gotten it to hit 62c in occt.:confused:

[Kosior]

Is it just me, or was that guy getting some bad idle temps?
My rs1283 sits at 35c idle with a q6600 at 3.7, and I have only gotten it to hit 62c in occt.:confused:

Well it may be caused by his poor airflow through his case ;o

[zfactor]

so worthy the xig is a good match for the q6600?? im debating on this now.. thanks

[Kosior]

so worthy the xig is a good match for the q6600?? im debating on this now.. thanks

As the Q6600 has almost biggest TDP of the CPUs and the Xigmatek S1283 is almost the best air cooler (well the TRUE is still better) it is ok to use them together. You can always go for TRUE with a good fan but the Xigmatek cost like half of it

[zfactor]

well i own both the true and the xig.. i was debating which one to use. the true i have is used and has a bit of bent fins and i need to get a new fan for it. but i lapped the bottom and that part appears new. my xig is still new in the box, so i figured id use that if i had issues with the true..... im just now torn on what cpu to get... a e8x00 series or a q6x00 series.. arghhhhhhh

[Kosior]

well i own both the true and the xig.. i was debating which one to use. the true i have is used and has a bit of bent fins and i need to get a new fan for it. but i lapped the bottom and that part appears new. my xig is still new in the box, so i figured id use that if i had issues with the true..... im just now torn on what cpu to get... a e8x00 series or a q6x00 series.. arghhhhhhh

Well it depends on what you do. If you only play games get the e8x00. If you do some 3d rendering or convertin movies I'd pick q6600

[Worthy]

so worthy the xig is a good match for the q6600?? im debating on this now.. thanks

Absolutely.
It's one of the best you can get in my opinion.

[Worthy]

As the Q6600 has almost biggest TDP of the CPUs and the Xigmatek S1283 is almost the best air cooler (well the TRUE is still better) it is ok to use them together. You can always go for TRUE with a good fan but the Xigmatek cost like half of it

for the price of a true you can get the 1283 and the extreme turbine fan with money left to burn.
I have that fan on mine now and it smokes the red scorpion fan.

Makes a very nice difference on top of an already great setup.

[delewin]

Hi all,

Does anyone know when the Xigmatek HSF will be available in Australia?

Also, what would be the realistic buy price.

The disadvantage of being on the "other side of the world" is not the price we can get the goods from overseas (exchange rate), but the horrific cost of postage, etc.

For example, this Cooler could cost more in postage to be delivered to me from USA or Europe, than the cost of the cooler itself.

(Just a winge!)

Since I will be using an E8400 CPU, the S1283 is probably just as good and possibly cheaper and definitely available now in australia.

Thanks

David

[Calmatory]

Love how the two heatpipes in the edges won't really touche the CPU, and thus are rather "useless" there. Sure the heat transfers from the plate the are soldered to, but the whole "direct touch technology" is being wasted by some 35% there. Great job. Other than that it seems good overall, but not really an improvement nor a new king.

[Das Capitolin]

There's a new review out on the Xigmatek Achilles S1284 HDT CPU Cooler (http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=151&Itemid=1), and it appears that it's good... but not that good. It's compared to the TRUE, Vendetta 2, and HDT-S1283.

[fng77]

Intresting... I think I gonna stick to my 1283 for a little while longer

[Das Capitolin]

Intresting... I think I gonna stick to my 1283 for a while longer

Good idea. It's not a bad cooler, so long as you want more fashion than function, but it's got some flaws. The Crossbow mounting system was used for all coolers, even the HDT-S1283.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/images/reviews/cooling/Xigmatek_CAC-SXHH4-U02/Xigmatek_Achilles_S1284_CPU_Footprint.jpg (http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=151&Itemid=1)

[Spawne32]

wait till about friday guys, theres some new information i will be posting about the achillies and its production specs ;)

[Das Capitolin]

wait till about friday guys, theres some new information i will be posting about the achillies and its production specs ;)

Huh? The reviews of the final boxed product are already out... along with the specs.

[fng77]

Now I´m curious

[Spawne32]

Now I´m curious

Unfortunately im not allowed to spill the details until they give me the official word on what to say about it. Ill will keep you guys updated.

[fng77]

Great, looking forward to Friday then.

[fng77]

It´s Friday now. Give us the news :D. The clock is 10.30 in the morning in Sweden

[delewin]

Hi All,

Based on the 2 reviews I have read, I think that the new achillies is really meant for a larger die CPU, possibly an AMD. But its staggered heat pipes and the thick Aluminium strips between them, waste a good percentage of cooling capacity if you stick this HSF cooller on a Intel E8400 CPU, as I will be doing.

Therefore, I think the S1283 is actually a better product for the E8400.

What do others think?

Lets talk about it.

David

[Das Capitolin]

It´s Friday now. Give us the news :D. The clock is 10.30 in the morning in Sweden

He can't reveal the information because our rep has not approved the information for release by anyone.

[Spawne32]

It´s Friday now. Give us the news :D. The clock is 10.30 in the morning in Sweden

Its comin man ;) ill start a new thread about, im talking to him now.

[RealTelstar]

bump

[Scubar]

Has anyone tried lapping one of these Direct heatpipe touch things yet. Im sure it could be made flatter as the retail surface looks pretty crap. Kinda like the Ultra-120 and Tuniq ones do. After lapping they are brilliant though.

[Spawne32]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=187240

[Das Capitolin]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=187240

In otherwords, no, they all haven't been tested with a lapped surface.

[Spawne32]

In otherwords, no, they all haven't been tested with a lapped surface.

i wasnt responding to the lapped surface post http://smiliesftw.com/x/ugh.gif (http://smiliesftw.com)

[fng77]

Has anyone tried lapping one of these Direct heatpipe touch things yet. Im sure it could be made flatter as the retail surface looks pretty crap. Kinda like the Ultra-120 and Tuniq ones do. After lapping they are brilliant though.


I have lapped my 1283. I couldnt se any temp differens at all afterwards, still it good to know that its flat.

[tuksonrider]

Now that the Achilles is released and on sale at Newegg, what are the final differences?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233017

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=188492

[Das Capitolin]

Now that the Achilles is released and on sale at Newegg, what are the final differences?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233017

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=188492

According to Xigmatek, there probably aren't any differences since NewEgg decided to go ahead and begin shipping this first version of the product. Benchmark Reviews tested this version of the product, and will receive the second retail version of the Achilles when it is made available in a few more weeks. All in all, it's not a bad product; especially for AMD processors.

[Spawne32]

Now that the Achilles is released and on sale at Newegg, what are the final differences?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233017

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=188492

Im not sure what exactly is going on at this point, it appears as though the information i received from xigmatek was entirely inaccurate. I can only assume now that the information posted on benchmark reviews and octeamdenmark is accurate and i would go on that assertion if you are looking to purchase it from newegg. Ill be ordering one as well.

[DualCore]

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/cckage86/achillespic_18.jpg

i think this is ideal to amd users :shrug: