NoL's RocketPhase

[n00b 0f l337]

So with BestBuy having the $50 LianLi RocketFish cases I had to pick one, (then 4 more) up. Great cases, and with some thought can be phased or watercooled or both!
So after creating what i call a "V1000" panel and painting that with a few layers of prime, paint, and clear coat, I installed a phase unit and charged it up. Holds sub -10C with high loads.
http://www.thewiltedrose.net/adam/Phase%20Projects%2008/Secrets/RocketPhase/DSC03128.JPG
http://www.thewiltedrose.net/adam/Phase%20Projects%2008/Secrets/RocketPhase/DSC03130.JPG
RocketPhase anyone? ;)

[teyber]

Wow! you made that sheet separating the lower and upper parts of the case? How long did that take! what degree are the bends?

Great work

[n00b 0f l337]

About an hour or so, paint was an hour or two more. Bends are about 30 degrees.

[kayl]

Looks good, is that 3/16" copper going into the top of the condenser??
what size compressor is that?

[n00b 0f l337]

Yes it is :)

[Planet]

Guessing 1/6hp

[n00b 0f l337]

1/6hp 3cc. :)

[ruffus]

that looks great do you know if those cases are on sale in canada as well

[Moc]

Refrigerant? There is no space for using a bigger PSU....
Also the heat from the SS has to get removed from the PSU... not so good for it.

[diezel]

Great work

[hecktic]

nice..... post more

[DagoDuck]

Nice work, I like it, NoL!

Holds sub -10C with high loads.
What do you mean by high loads? Can you give us a number?

[n00b 0f l337]

There's a fan grill going on the side for heat exhaust, holds up to 250W quite easily. Refrigerant for that was r507a, however working with a new gas for these. Next revision will have even more space, a good 3.5" more :)

[[XC] gomeler]

I'm still saying separate the PSU and compressor/condenser with a divider and have the PSU intake from the mobo compartment and the phase unit exhaust from the sides. Don't know of many PSUs that like an intake temp of 40C :) Great build though for the space available.

[n00b 0f l337]

Phase unit is exhausting out the sides, but no way to do something else with the PSU basically; however there is a vent BELOW the psu, so a psu with a fan will get its fresh air supply :)

[Nosfer@tu]

Nice work mate :D

And with a cheaper case than the V2000 it WILL rock :D

[Pete]

Get a cold ice delux condenser, much small and better than them nasty blue things, i think you might really have something then with it!

[DagoDuck]

I like your work, but it's hard to believe that. Which pressures do you have? Capillary Tube? Diameter? Lenght? Show us some pics of the thermometer. :)

[BlueAqua]

Wow Nol, great job with that case and making a unit so fast for it. Nice work with the divider plate too.

And Pete, what is wrong with the blue condenser? It's one that Chilly1 was selling if I'm not mistaken.

[Pete]

And Pete, what is wrong with the blue condenser? It's one that Chilly1 was selling if I'm not mistaken.

Answered ya own question there, sorry! I don't agree with what the man has done, i've seen a guy here in the UK loses everything due to the money Reg ow's him. Also the condernser is but uggly. Cold_Ice's unit is small, thin, rifle tubing, 500W+ think, can be used with a 25m thick std 120mm pc fan, would do much better in there, maybe give some better loaded temps. Need i go on?

[Fujimitsu]

Beautiful job man!

And I thought my measly water setup was going to be the first worthwhile cooling put into this box :P.

Maybe I'll grow some balls and run my chiller 24/7 someday....

What size PSU is that? I'd imagine most people investing in a unit this $ would probably have a larger PSU... which could pose problems.

[[XC] gomeler]

I like your work, but it's hard to believe that. Which pressures do you have? Capillary Tube? Diameter? Lenght? Show us some pics of the thermometer. :)

The TF3F works like a charm. I built a unit with I believe it was 8' of 0.031", a pure propane charge, and an identical condenser. It held a pretty decent load, I think it was 4.2GHz 4-cores loaded 1.45v on the QX9650 around 5C. While those same clocks can easily be done on air, it was meant for an E8400 and with 2 cores loaded and 2 idling it would hold very nicely around -15C or so. The best part was the compression ratio, 15psi suction 130psi discharge while loaded, compressor was as happy as a pig in mud :cool: I have another TF3F in the garage but I won't be building another one of those unless a friend begs me for it.



What size PSU is that? I'd imagine most people investing in a unit this $ would probably have a larger PSU... which could pose problems.

You can easily fit a standard ATX PSU with more than enough juice to run 2 cards and a quad. My OCZ 700w GameXStream would fit perfectly and it's got enough juice to satisfy anyone but Hipro or Kingpin :)

[Fujimitsu]

gomeler;2841552']
You can easily fit a standard ATX PSU with more than enough juice to run 2 cards and a quad. My OCZ 700w GameXStream would fit perfectly and it's got enough juice to satisfy anyone but Hipro or Kingpin :)

My CM850 wouldn't fit in that space :shrug: most PSUs over 700w are longer, and the people that buy phase generally have a pretty nice PC already.

Not trying to bag on this just saying, an inch or two would really help a lot of people out... even if you can get a PSU to fit in there, if it's not modular good luck with cable management.

I JUST built in this case, and I put my rad where his phase unit is... and wiring was hard enough. Can't imagine trying it with this in the way (not that it wouldn't be worth it for phase in such a relatively small case).

[n00b 0f l337]

I'll take some more pics, Philly Boy reviewed the same thing a little bit ago. My last one with r507a and 8ft of captube ran a bit different compression ratio, more towards 225:50. Trying a low pressure blend now with similar results.
The blue condensers are okay, just waste alot of space.

[mike8913]

just wondering, but where do you order those smaller compressors from?

[ZOMGVTEK]

*sigh*... i have all this space in my shiney new case and no phase change to throw in it...

I dont think phase is the best idea for a computer thats designed for 24/7 operation though.

How much is a cheap and partially poor phase change rig, just to hit like 0ºC on full load, say a Q6600 running at 4.0+

[n00b 0f l337]

Runmc/Jinu for the new ones, and Little Blue rom Chilly1.
It's actually hard to find parts for a "cheap and partially poor phase change" setup. Most of the time its pricier then going with what the builder has if he orders via the pallet.

[kamongear]

Get a cold ice delux condenser, much small and better than them nasty blue things, i think you might really have something then with it!

Have any tests to back that up(feelings don't count)?

Your entitled to your opinion about chilly but leave that in other more appropriate forums. But as far as the phase change forum I'd like to read factual info only.

[n00b 0f l337]

He's actually sorta right, the Little Blue is designed to be cheap, and with a good (103cfm) fan with high pressure. All together its great, but lacks truly large capacity.

[Jor3lBR]

Nice work n00b I luved it :up:

Do you think it will fit a OCZ Cryo in there?

And what are the 'cons' heat wise I have to be aware of?

[n00b 0f l337]

You sure thats the dimensions? I didnt have nearly that much room at all. No I dont think a CryoZ will fit, as for heat, compressor heat and condenser heat has to be routed away from the motherboard.

[Jor3lBR]

You sure thats the dimensions? I didnt have nearly that much room at all. No I dont think a CryoZ will fit, as for heat, compressor heat and condenser heat has to be routed away from the motherboard.

Thats the Cryo dimensions that I pictured in red (the space required by a Cryo without taking any of it's side panels etc).

These are the Rocket:
http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/1281381~d45bed1f93ce985055c0ee59064f6877/outside%20dimensions.JPG

It would really involve a lot of work but I'm thinking about loosing some interior parts and cut the front to be the Cryo display.... What do you think:

http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/1281475.thumb600~d61201a2ceb00b366f8b2e388b0f01a2/butt%20neked.JPG/thumb.jpg

[n00b 0f l337]

Your going to have to move the PSU as well.

[killermiller]

Thats the Cryo dimensions that I pictured in red (the space required by a Cryo without taking any of it's side panels etc).

These are the Rocket:
http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/1281381~d45bed1f93ce985055c0ee59064f6877/outside%20dimensions.JPG

It would really involve a lot of work but I'm thinking about loosing some interior parts and cut the front to be the Cryo display.... What do you think:

http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/1281475.thumb600~d61201a2ceb00b366f8b2e388b0f01a2/butt%20neked.JPG/thumb.jpg

What is with the large bold font?

[[XC] 2long4u]

He just swings like that. :shrug:

[Jor3lBR]

Your going to have to move the PSU as well.

Thanks for the info n00b, it will probably be more work then I expected and could damage the case for good also...

I think I'll give up on doing that unless it would be possible to remove the Cryo casing without loosing warranty.

[n00b 0f l337]

Yeah you remove they'll kill your warranty, if you want it in the case, your better off getting a unit that was built to go in, or a case with unit already built in.