When quad is not enough..

[anubis]

I didnt really expect the day to come so soon, for me a 3ghz q6600 with 4gb of memory on Vista x64 op sys seemed like a bulletproof thing, but today i started a little project. I have gathered a bunch of childhood photos of me and my family, all in pretty bad shape (they got some water long time ago), to scan in and try to make look nice again

I thought id scan them in at max res i have, so i did it. I used 2400dpi, wich resulted in PNG files of 200-500mb in size.

So, at first when i launched GIMP and started editing them with simple tools it was ok. But then...oh horror..as soon as i did a Retinex enhancing it all came to a crawl. I started hearing terrible noises, and in task manager i saw the terrible moster of SWAP FILE being revived from the mists of history... terrible experience...

Oh, and later i checked, the pictures are mostly in 20000x17000 size, or simpler said 340Mpix :D

I think i need a octomonster :D with atlleast 16gb of mem....:yepp:

[adamsleath]

yeah big pics with many pixels chew up memory. my 2gb spat the proverbial when looking at one very large picture of 18000x18000 :eek:

[Bobsama]

Dual Harpers, 4x4GB of DDR2 667? Do you have money for Photoshop/GIMP too? You could probably get away with 8GB of RAM on your current machine, but what's the fun in that?

Basically get 64-bit GIMP and then toss a nice system together... how much hard drive space do you want/need and what about graphics?

[SparkyJJO]

come on, admit it, your main reason is to crunch more! :p:

[Bobsama]

That or a dual-Harpertown is a mighty and large e-peen. Saying you have 8 cores, 45nm, and 8+GB of RAM is quite something.

[Movieman]

That or a dual-Harpertown is a mighty and large e-peen. Saying you have 8 cores, 45nm, and 8+GB of RAM is quite something.

What if you had TWO of those?:rofl:

[Hymay]

What if you had TWO of those?:rofl:

you have two hands.. so it still works!:rofl:

[Movieman]

you have two hands.. so it still works!:rofl:

fair enough..But what about Three?
You say toes and your outa here..:D

[Jaivan]

fair enough..But what about Three?
You say toes and your outa here..:D

If your missing ribs you can always use your mouth:up:

[Blauhung]

lol, ewww

but yes, Dave's e-peen is huge and girthy :p:

[STEvil]

I used to do photo restoration with image sizes similar to that on a P3 500 Katmai lmoa.... ;)

[anubis]

STEvil- that had to hurt...
To all you others - i think im gonna scale down the pix to a more reasonable 50 mpix res and finish the job. No harpers for me, but who knows what'll happen in end of 2008, maybe something with 16 cores onboard. A John Holmes of an e-peen :)

..an e-peen for some mighty impressive crunching, ofcourse

[Bobsama]

fair enough..But what about Three?
You say toes and your outa here..:D

If you have enough money to put together THREE huge e-peens, you better have the money to make sure they all get serviced! :rofl:

[Movieman]

If you have enough money to put together THREE huge e-peens, you better have the money to make sure they all get serviced! :rofl:

Just the elec is the issue.. :D

[fart_plume]

Better get yourself a exercise bike with a generator attached to it.................

[Movieman]

Better get yourself a exercise bike with a generator attached to it.................

As long as they come with the person to ride it attached!:ROTF:

[twilyth]

What is the maxium resolution for film? I thought that a normal color negative could store at most 15-20 megapixels. After that, you just start seeing the grains in the negative. Assuming its 20 megapixels for 35mm (and I'm pretty sure that's high), you'd be talking about 3200dpi - right? And that's for the negative, not the print - for prints it's got to be a lot less.

The ratio of 35mm (1.9 inches square) to a 4x6 print is about 13 to 1, so the max resolution of the print should be 3200/13 or less than 250 dpi.

Edit - here are a couple links that talk about film resolution

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_megapixels_would_it_take_to_equal_a_35mm_ film_maximum_quality

http://www.uniquephoto.com/index.php?parents=&expand=17853&page=0&startid=0&detail=NKD9239&fromCookieTest=true&up14sid=d91f0670b5ff364fed8cc1bd86297207

Since the Nikon scanner has a max resolution of 4000dpi for negatives, that would imply that the maximum resolution for a 4x6 photo is 300dpi.

At that rate you'll still get some big files, but they'll be manageable. However if you still have the negatives, you're much better off scanning those since you'll avoid any artifacts or errors created in the printing process.

[tiro_uspsss]

u've mostly mentioned ur swap file... i dare say ur QC cpu is *plenty* - u may however need more RAM - the few times I have fiddled with imaging, I ran out of RAM loooong before I ran out of cores :up:

[anubis]

Yeah. Noticed it. One can never have enough RAM (when dealing with 200Mpix pictures atleast :D).
Anyways, for now im scaling the images to 20Mpix resolution and restore them.

[Origin_Unknown]

Dual Harpers, 4x4GB of DDR2 667? Do you have money for Photoshop/GIMP too? You could probably get away with 8GB of RAM on your current machine, but what's the fun in that?




if i hadn't just bought the system in my sig then i'd be going for one ... i want one so bad.

[WrigleyVillain]

Hmm yes Dual Harpertowns ftw! This little HP workstation we just got in Friday (and I left crunching all weekend while I "evaluate" it) helped me jump 5 ticks in team rank. And that's getting harder as I approach the top 100. :up:

[Bobsama]

I am out of cash for now--hopefully I can pull together $3000+ for a dual 8-core with multi-threading Nehalem setup by 2010 or so... till then, I'm basically stuck on my current system--maybe spend $400 or so to get a quad-core CPU, 2GB more RAM, and another DVD burner.

[[XC] hipno650]

your problem is not your rig. move back to XP and it will work fine:D

[tiro_uspsss]

hipno650;2830455']your problem is not your rig. move back to XP and it will work fine:D

:rofl: :clap: :yepp: now now dont get everyone roused up :D

[anubis]

:rofl:

[Bobsama]

hipno650;2830455']your problem is not your rig. move back to XP and it will work fine:D
If you're talking to me about Vista--remember that I use Vista 64-bit. WinXP 64-bit was basically axed by Micro$oft at launch--I won't touch it, in fact. BTW--I'll definitely end up with over 2GB of RAM, at least in the next year. My next purchase will definitely be 2GB more RAM and another internal DVD burner.

[tiro_uspsss]

If you're talking to me about Vista--remember that I use Vista 64-bit. WinXP 64-bit was basically axed by Micro$oft at launch--I won't touch it, in fact. BTW--I'll definitely end up with over 2GB of RAM, at least in the next year. My next purchase will definitely be 2GB more RAM and another internal DVD burner.

lol - load of rubbish - XP64 support will be around till either 2011 or 2014 (cant quite remember) - u wanna know how/why? cause XP64 has same build as Server 03 x64 - so any MS updates that apply to one, apply to the other :up: