View Full Version : The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion
This thread is intended to be a knowledge base and save people from hours of searching through the original thread on the Maximus Formula! Thank you to L.oco for starting the thread, I only hope that in time this one can be as informative and helpful!
Board Revisions
There are 2 known revisions of the Maximus Formula, the Special Edition, or SE, is the 1.02g revision (http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=572&l4=0&model=1850&modelmenu=1), and the Non-SE version is the 1.03g revision (http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=572&l4=0&model=1889&modelmenu=1). This is the only known difference, just a revision change to signify the difference in the package.
Asus Master FTP
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/
Bios Versions
LATEST BIOS REVISION - MF1102 (http://rapidshare.com/files/115191297/MF1102.rar)
Most of the released Bios' for the Maximus Formula...
MF0401.zip (http://rapidshare.com/files/73978137/MF0401.zip)
MF0504.zip (http://rapidshare.com/files/73978138/MF0504.zip)
MF0505.zip (http://rapidshare.com/files/73978139/MF0505.zip)
MF0602.zip (http://rapidshare.com/files/73978140/MF0602.zip)
MF0701.zip (http://rapidshare.com/files/73978141/MF0701.zip)
MF0702.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/73978142/MF0702.rar)
MF0802.zip (http://rapidshare.com/files/73978143/MF0802.zip)
MF0901.zip (http://rapidshare.com/files/73978144/MF0901.zip)
MF0902.zip (http://rapidshare.com/files/73978145/MF0902.zip)
MF0903.zip (http://rapidshare.com/files/73978136/MF0903.zip)
MF0907.zip (http://rapidshare.com/files/77454141/MF0907.zip)
MF1003.zip (http://rapidshare.com/files/93259628/MF1003.zip)
MF1004.zip (http://rapidshare.com/files/97357451/MF1004.zip)
MF1006.zip (http://rapidshare.com/files/111560802/MF1006.rar)
MF1102.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/115191297/MF1102.rar)
MF1201.rar (http://rapidshare.com/files/113025445/MF1201.rar)
Direct Link to Maximus Formula Drivers / Software / Manuals
http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=Maximus%20Formula (http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=Maximus%20Formula)
Latest OCCT for Stabity Testing
http://www.ocbase.com/download.php?fileext=beta
AsusUpdate that allows downgrading from the 09xx series
Confirmed to work on both XP x86 and XP x64 by Nuckin_Futs.
Please ONLY flash using Asus Update with STOCK CLOCKS and settings, flashing with an overclock is not advised and will lead to a bricked board when Asus Update inevitably crashes.
The prefered method of flashing is detailed below in the MAXIMUS to RAMPAGE section. Using AFUDOS is safer and faster than Asus Update.
AsusUpdate v6 (http://rapidshare.com/files/73983852/AsusUpdt61002.zip)
Select 'Options', tick the downgrade box and the flash with bios of choice.
Bios settings and what they do
Page 1 (http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3156&p=4)
Page 2 (http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3156&p=5)
Page 3 (http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3156&p=6)
Bios Straps and Getting Them to Work!!!
400 strap set to enabled relax level 0
333 strap set to disable relax level 0
You may need to set Dram Static to Auto
If you get the DET RAM hang its usally just a matter of finding the right Trans Booster setting
No need to clear cmos and certainly no need to power down and wait the bios.
Bios Setup Template - Please use this when Listing Settings used.
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency :
FSB Strap to North Bridge :
PCI-E Frequency:
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-
DRAM Command Rate :
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency :
RAS# to CAS# Delay :
RAS# Precharge :
RAS# ActivateTime :
RAS# to RAS# Delay :
Row Refresh Cycle Time :
Write Recovery Time :
Read to Precharge Time :
Read to Write Delay (S/D) :
Write to Read Delay (S) :
Write to Read Delay (D) :
Read to Read Delay (S) :
Read to Read Delay (D) :
Write to Write Delay (S) :
Write to Write Delay (D) :
DRAM Static Read Control:
Ai Clock Twister :
Transaction Booster :
CPU Voltage :
CPU PLL Voltage :
North Bridge Voltage :
DRAM Voltage :
FSB Termination Voltage :
South Bridge Voltage :
Loadline Calibration :
CPU GTL Reference :
North Bridge GTL Reference :
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage :
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage :
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage :
SB 1.5V Voltage :
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
vDroop Mod / vCore Mod / EPU Mod
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4352/p5evdroophs4wg8.jpg
Use a HB / 3B / 4B pencil, 2 or 3 strokes only.
Bios to Actual vDroop listing
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/6334/001dj0wo6.png
This is the Anandtech setup for 450MHz FSB and 8x Mulitplier. It's a very good starting point for anyone attempting to overclock the board.
These settings are for 450MHz with a Quad Core, when using a Dual Core these same settings should be good for at least 480MHz, if not 500MHz (ram permitting).
450FSB Quad-Core BIOS Settings
CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [8]
FSB Frequency [450]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [400MHz] or [Auto]
PCIE Frequency [110]
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [DDR2-1199MHZ] or [800MHz] or [Auto]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time [12]
RAS# To Ras# Delay [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [42]
Write Recovery Time [6]
Read To Precharge Time [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [8]
Write To Read Delay(S) [3]
Write To Read Delay(D) [5]
Read To Read Delay(S) [4]
Read To Read Delay(D) [6]
Write To Write Delay(S) [4]
Write To Write Delay(D) [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Strong]
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage [Whatever your CPU needs for 3.6GHz]
CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]
North Bridge Voltage [1.61v]
DRAM Voltage [2.16v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.54v]
South Bridge Voltage [Auto]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage [Auto]
Bios Strap Settings, as tested by Spyrus
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72498&stc=1&d=1203276218
User Settings
Here are several possible configs that could work for you, posted by other Maximus Formula users...
Quad Core
400x9 from Maglin (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2561177&postcount=2515)
400x9 from giorgos th. (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2600029&postcount=3789)
450x8 from Renegade5399 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2575077&postcount=2957)
450x8 from cadaveca (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2586566&postcount=3258)
450x8 from Grnfinger (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2597301&postcount=3657)
450x8 from ChaosMinionX (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2498632&postcount=568)
450x8 from Zucker2k (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2600019&postcount=3788)
425x8 from Grnfinger (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2603666&postcount=41)
400MHz FSB from pphx459 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2603761&postcount=46)
400MHz FSB from arfett (12 Hours Prime Small FFT Stable) (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2743716&postcount=1115)
Dual Core
450x9 from Renegade5399 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2575077&postcount=2957)
500x7 from Nuckin_Futs (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2568733&postcount=2704)
500x7 from eSp!s0 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2568417&postcount=2703)
450x8 (Ram @ 1200MHz) from eSp!s0 (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2612429&postcount=4151)
All have reported varying degrees of success with their specific hardware.
Maximus / P5E to Rampage Conversion.
All credit goes to The Stilt for finding the initial bios mod! And then secondly to the community for their continued support for this bios mod. This thread is intended to just be a tidy version of the work already done.
This bios mod can be performed on both the Asus P5E and the Asus Maximus Formula to turn them part way into an Asus Rampage Formula.
The Guide
1: Download the HP Bootable USB Utility from here:
HPUSBBOOT (http://rapidshare.com/files/107282064/HPUSBFW.zip).
2: Download the Boot Files from here:
Boot Files (http://rapidshare.com/files/107282214/USB-Boot.zip).
3: Download the bios of your choice:
0207 (http://rapidshare.com/files/107283067/RF0207.rar)
0214 (http://rapidshare.com/files/107283330/RF0214.rar)
0219 (http://rapidshare.com/files/107283529/RF0219.rar)
0308 (http://rapidshare.com/files/107481955/RF0308.rar)
0401 (http://rapidshare.com/files/113043335/RF0401.rar)
0403 (http://rapidshare.com/files/114895439/RF0403.zip)
4: Download AFUDOS Engineering Version here:
v2.29ES (http://rapidshare.com/files/107282453/AFUDOS229ES.zip)
v2.36ES (http://rapidshare.com/files/107282483/AFUDOS236ES.zip)
5: Run the HP Bootable USB Utility and tick the "Create a DOS Startup Disk" option. Now navigate to the Boot Files (extract them first) and select the Folder you extracted them to.
6: Click "Start" within the HP Bootable USB Utility and it will make your USB Stick bootable.
7: Extract the AFUDOS of your choice (I personally used v2.29ES) to the USB Stick along with the bios you wish to flash and a backup bios for your board (located on the Asus Support site) so you can flash back if the need arises.
8: Reboot your system and press F8 when the splash screen appears to select the boot menu. Once the boot menu has loaded navigate to the USB Stick and hit Enter.
9: Once the DOS Prompt is ready, type the following to flash to the Rampage Bios (Example uses Bios 0219):
AFUDOS /iRF0219.rom /pbnc /n
To flash any other bios, or even back to a Maximus / P5E bios just use the following:
AFUDOS /i**INSERT*BIOS*FILENAME*HERE** /pbnc /n
Please note the "/i" that comes before the bios filename, this is required for any flash with AFUDOS. And also please note the extension on the bios file in use, you'll need to use this too.
This will erase, flash and verify the bios for you. Once it has completed you can reboot and be greeted by your new Rampage splash screen.
P5E Users Only
10: Disable the Second Gigabit LAN and the "OPT SENSOR" #1, #2 and #3 to stop the errors from appearing.
The Rampage Formula uses the same drivers as both the P5E and the Maximus Formula so you shouldn't need to reinstall anything but some users have experienced a better result with a fresh install of Windows after the flash.
For those of you suffering with voltage ripples, try this, as demostrated by Grnfinger
I did a test today
moved the ram from blue slots to white slots, and stopped over volting my ram from 2.2 to 2.0 ( rated for 2.1 ) Set transaction booster from disabled to Auto.
Changed
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
to all AUTO
Some Quad overclocking advise for this board from Nuckin_Futs
For the Quads in general, leave memory and graphics out of it till you get the CPU/mobo where you like and stable in 1:1. So for best stability, leave strap and RAM frequency to Auto, Disable both speed spectrum settings, Disable RAM Booster an drelax to 0 (1~3 as needed for stability, when stable again), Set Ai Clock Twister to Auto or light (for now, avoid "strong", as it will add stress to memory system and become unstable, destracting OC test), Enable Static Read Control. Getting higher FSB out of a quad is gonna need some more PLL and FSBT thgen in my core 2 OC. Matbe PLL up to 1.712v and FSTB to 1.504v is a good refference point.
Try this and use overvolting as little as needed for low temps and stability.
Some thoughts offered by cadavega, on PLL voltage
I wanted to mention the importance of cpuPLL voltage. It is definately important to increase this votlage when going over 400mhz FSB with a quad. There is no specifics...each cpu will differ. For example, my B3 quad doesn't care for it...increase too much and stability was quickly lost. My G0, tho, was not stabe for 48hr prime without 1.8v...1.7v...33hrs...1.75v...38.5hrs...
Also of note is that my B3 did not need any FSB or PLL voltage change when FSB was increased(or it had negative effects), while my G0 ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED more vFSB and cpuPLL. b3 was happy with 1.2vFSB, 1.5v PLL, as a comparison.
Raid and the Maximus Formula
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=166867
Water Cooling the Maximus Formula
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=162085
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=164610
Very usefull, great job :up:
HousERaT
12-04-2007, 09:29 AM
Excellent work..... this should be a sticky.
Eastcoasthandle
12-04-2007, 09:32 AM
3 threads regarding watercooling and starting up a raid:
Official Water Cooling Thread of the Stock Maximus SE ROG NB Club:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=164610
Water cooling the Asus Maximus SE X38 using aftermarket blocks and sinks:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=162085
Getting RAID to work on the ASUS Maximus SE
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=166867
From Talonman
FSBT is directly related to hte CPU PLL, so if not upping the FSBT a lil with the PLL and too low a GTL volt ref, it is not gonna' return as stable or high CPU and system FSB for overclock.
From Nuckin_Futs
Maximus Forumula & Q6600 G0
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2600882&postcount=3831
Below are some OC results using this motherboard with a Q6600 and E6750. I recommend that you make sure that your northbridge chips is below 47C (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2536271&postcount=1) before OC'ing. Also, as with any OC, you do so at your own risk. Please make sure you have proper cooling for N/s bridge chipsets as well as ram, CPU, etc before you OC.
Forumula Maximus & Q6600 G0
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2498632&postcount=568
Forumula Maximus & Q6600 G0
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2497488&postcount=530
Forumula Maximus & Q6600 G0
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2492601&postcount=370
Formula Maximus & 6750 OC
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2568417&postcount=2703
Formula Maximus & 6750 may work for 6850
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2568733&postcount=2704
Formula Maximus & 6850 OC
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2575077&postcount=2957
voltage droop:
vcore, cpu pll, NB, DRAM, FSB T., SB
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2492456&postcount=366
-Yes, this board can handle 4 Gigs of PC8500. However, OC'ing maybe limited. Appears that newer bios address this.
-Those upgrading from a MB with limited bios tweaking (P5W DH for example) may find the tweaking settings for the Maximus Formula's bios daunting. Please review some of the OC settings listed above to get an idea of what needs tinkering and what doesn't. Also, if your CPU OC is not found it may be better to make a formal request (in the original Maximus Formula thread, not in this thread) for bios settings using your CPU. Also look at the Anandtech article.
-Check Asus website for bios updates regarding ASUS Maximus Formula and ASUS Maximus Formula SE. Remember there are not removable bios chips for these boards. You use any bios on this forum at your own risk!
-You get better N/S Bridge temps when you remove the factory TIM and apply AS5 Ceramic.
-When updating from one bios to another RESET YOUR CURRENT BIOS TO STOCK, NONE OC SETTINGS BEFORE FLASHING
-If the fusion water block on the chipset doesn't come off you can use a hair dryer to heat it. Or, you can cool the MB in the frig for a few hours in to chill the thermal compound. Either suggestion can damage your MB, you do this at your own risk!
-If you water cool the NB (SE version) it's best to use plastic clamps or worm drive, from Anandtech (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3149&p=12)
Our biggest gripes revolve around the somewhat disappointing execution of the supplied water block design and unreliable 1/2" tubing clamps when using high flow rate pumps
-The black PCIe x1 port is proprietary for the included sound card
-Its worth the time to put a small 40mm fan on the s/b heatsink when OCing
-P5E is an excellent board if you are not looking for the features of the Maximus Formula
-Ultra 120 Extreme and clearance from the South Bridge heat sink using a 8800 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2512989&postcount=920
-SE has option for 3 thermal sensors however you have to buy the thermal sensor cable separate
-Use a 8-pin 12V connector
-In order to get charted voltage results using OCCT, start Everest and go to: Preferences, External Applications then Enable shared memory option
-Although DDR2 1600 is found in the specification for the Maximus Formula I haven't found any posts verifying 1600MHz Memory frequency as of yet. http://www.asus.com.tw/products.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1850&l1=3&l2=11&l3=572&l4=0
-When OC'ing your ram you can obtain better results maintaining the rated DDR2 frequency or higher
example 1 (http://www.legitreviews.com/article/511/5/)
example 2 (http://www.legitreviews.com/article/511/4/)
example 3 (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/ddr3_12.html)
Also note, that 1:1 is not the best ratio for this motherboard
...Had we used the lower 1:1 divider on the Maximus, the scores would have been reversed (performance would have been slower). In truth, using the 1:1 divider on either board should only reduce scores by around 1-2% maximum, making some of the cheaper DDR2-1000 capable modules a wise purchase for a workstation or gaming PC. ASUS is currently working on a BIOS release that improves overclocking and we will report any performance changes shortly...
Source (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3149&p=8)
Below are some pics of the Formula Maximus prep'd for watercooling:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/th_Max_Formula3_edited.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/Max_Formula3_edited.jpg)
This pic shows the MB prep'd and ready for installation
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/th_Max_Formula2.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/Max_Formula2.jpg)
This is another angle of the MB prep'd and ready for installation
Below are some pics showing the removal of the N/S bridge heat sinks. With the help of cadaveca I came up with the idea of refrigerating the Maximus Formula MB (with the plastic covering)for 3 hours in order to remove the north/south bridge heat sinks. Heat didn't loosens the thermal compound found on this motherboard for me but cold temperatures did. Once the board was chilled for 3 hours the north/south bridge heat sinks popped right off without any real force. I offer this advice as a possible solution for removing bonded type of thermal compound from the north/south bridge heat sinks. Please keep in mind that applying either heat or cold or both temperatures can damage your motherboard. You try this at your own risk.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/th_4658f9e0.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/4658f9e0.jpg)http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/th_19d81b59.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/19d81b59.jpg)http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/th_a4dcfb9a.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/a4dcfb9a.jpg)
3 pics showing the south, north and combo n/s heatsinks
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/th_cbf00ab5.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/cbf00ab5.jpg)http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/th_8be3f661.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/8be3f661.jpg)
To the left is the southbridge chipset. To the right is the northbridge chipset after the HS was removed.
leoftw
12-04-2007, 09:38 AM
This board isn't for a noob :(
No, but this thread is! :D Try out some of the settings listed above, for either 400 or 450MHz and see how it goes?
leoftw
12-04-2007, 10:14 AM
Those were listed in the last thread and I tried every single one of those .
I tried 450x8 ; 400x9 ; and they wouldn't even boot. I accidentally hit 450x9 once because I forgot to change the multiplier to 8 and I ended up booting stable with 4GHZ on air . I got scared because the temps were too high so I shut down but there was no way I could get it to 3.6:(
ChaosMinionX
12-04-2007, 10:15 AM
I will put up some new configs for more recent BIOS since 0505 (which used to be my fav)
Great work though guys :up:
Apoc@
12-04-2007, 10:25 AM
Nice topicstart kub, great job.
ElEctric_EyE
12-04-2007, 10:31 AM
Downgrading the BIOS is only possible under 32bit OS I think. It doesn't work for me and some others I've read about. May need annotation...
[XC] Hicks121
12-04-2007, 10:35 AM
Wow! Thanks guys!! This is realy going to save me reading all those pages!!
GREAT JOB!
THANK YOU <3
I found the Gigabyte P35 thread so insanely difficult to find anything useful... now that I've switched to a Maximus Formula this thread will be very handy. I hope you keep the first post up to date :)
Renegade5399
12-04-2007, 10:36 AM
My settings are for 450*9 silly man. :p
NysoO
12-04-2007, 10:44 AM
Very nice indeed. Kinda sorts out the goodies from the previous thread.
icecpu
12-04-2007, 11:04 AM
Great job , thank you very much , this is what I'm looking for , my board is coming this Friday , but I have to wait for Q9450 on Jan 8.
Amendments made for the Dual Core (use Anandtech settings, they should be good for at least 480MHz as the same settings give me 470MHz with a Quad!!!)
And updated information about AsusUpdate and 32Bit/64Bit OS.
cuke2u
12-04-2007, 11:23 AM
Hi, this is good stuff, I going to link to it from the asus maximus forumla forum, hopefully they'll sticky it...
Chris
When I get home on Wednesday Ill post the settings for my 9x460 E8650 OC if you guys want.
giorgos th.
12-04-2007, 11:32 AM
Also,if you want to downgrade your bios,go to the options of any Asus update version and check the "bios downgradable" option.
Works 100% fine to me with XP Pro SP2 32bit - Asus update V7.11.02
Cheers.
Added RAID and Water cooling links.
Updated clock settings for Dual Core CPUs.
Amended AsusUpdate instructions for downgrading.
ElEctric_EyE
12-04-2007, 11:48 AM
We need some clarity on what "stable" is. I can say I'm boot stable, 1 min OCCT stable, 10min OCCT stable, Prime stable? we need to agree on that b4 posting BIOS results or we'll have a quagmire of sh*t again. Maybe you should run a poll kup... Nice work so far dude. Take my criticism as constructive only plz ;)
giorgos th.
12-04-2007, 11:56 AM
With my settings,i`m dual orthos and a lot of hours of Crysis (as we say rock rock stable....:p: :p: )
I kinda saw the settings being linked as more of a starting point, it's why I state underneath that the users experienced different results.
I'll have a think, because each user has a different level of "stable" before they're happy...
NysoO
12-04-2007, 12:22 PM
What do you guys think is the thing that it is causing this 460*8 barrier. It would be really nice to get past this and raise the fsb a bit.
I actually managed to boot the system with 460 with the Anandtech settings but it wasn't so stable.
Is this BIOS related maybe? Hopefully it is, and will be corrected :)
vegettoxp
12-04-2007, 12:39 PM
Hey Guys can someone comment on the revision change. I just got the board last week. I guess my question is, What's the BIG difference between the revision changes? And does it have a BIG Impact or not? Your Thoughts?
P.S. Fusion
The "460 barrier" is to do with the way the 2 separate cores interract with each other and with the northbridge/ram.
Each core is slightly different, and as such while a voltage may allow one core to work perfectly, the other core may be too high or too low. You need to find the sweetspot using a combination of vCore, vPLL, vNB and vFSBT...
The Anandtech settings took me to 470MHz stable with my Quad, but 1MHz more and it loses the stabilty! Tweaks upwards slowly of the Anandtech settings and take it in baby steps.
Hey Guys can someone comment on the revision change. I just got the board last week. I guess my question is, What's the BIG difference between the revision changes? And does it have a BIG Impact or not? Your Thoughts?
P.S. Fusion
The revision change is the first thing I comment on in the first post. Please read it. The idea of this thread was to keep it current and uptodate! If people continue to ask questions they can easily answer themselves, there is no point in this thread being here...
/rant
pazza316
12-04-2007, 01:13 PM
This is a great thread excellent work. Could anyone posting settings also put what Bios they are using as I know the each bios has its own settings for stability and each revision is far from being equal.
Grnfinger
12-04-2007, 01:20 PM
Excellent work Kup!
So is this the new thread or just the facts?
vegettoxp
12-04-2007, 01:28 PM
Sorry KUP and I will read your post. Thx for the thread!
I'm trying to keep the thread about the facts. Feel free to contribute and to amend?
S1mon-
12-04-2007, 01:51 PM
Nice thread, I like that :D
simonmaltby
12-04-2007, 01:55 PM
I 've only had my Maximus for a few days and have to say its a joy... the bios is very wide ranging, and therefore hard to set up, but the features make it worthwhile in my opinion.
I got my Retail QX9650 today and thought i would comment on the board and the QX9650.
Once i had it running Prime stable (1 hour at least) at 4Ghz with only 1.31 vcore true (very basic water doing a big loop of CPU, Chipset and 2xGPU's). I set about getting the magic sub 10 second super Pi 1M.
Without wanting to push the chip volts too far i decided to max at 1.5 bios 1.475 windows reported. I started at 400FB with an 11x Multi. An then overclocked from there.
Side note SETFSB works really well on this board. I got to 420 x 11 = 4620Mhz. Very unstable but just ok to run superPi
Because i was so close with scores of 10.041 and alike i tried different FSB / multi combinations to see what happened.
I tried 462FB first of all. This was less impossible unless i raised the North Bridge and FSB voltages. But after that it was just as satble as 420FSB, but it did not yield any additional superPi score.
Then i tried the other way 385FB - again i got the same result.
I finally managed the sub 10 sec. by coaxing an extra 2Mhz at 422FSB and got 9.984 score.
The morral here seems to be that, for me anyway, the difference in FSB seems to make no difference in superPi. I know its only one test, but still.
http://www.motormice.com/overclocking/superPi_9-984.jpg
ElEctric_EyE
12-04-2007, 02:29 PM
The revision change is the first thing I comment on in the first post. Please read it. The idea of this thread was to keep it current and uptodate! If people continue to ask questions they can easily answer themselves, there is no point in this thread being here...
/rant
yeah man I agree, you started this thread so you should maybe ask admin here to erase some of this BS. This rant/rave is for the original 5000+ post thread... consider this a rant/rave post as well...
The voltages are much too high for a c2d and I use aircooling only, that settings aren`t that good for dualcore-users I guess. For 500busspeed and 1200Ram I only need 1,30NB and 1,42VFSB. :yepp:
The settings linked are not my own, they are the experiences and trials of other Dual Core users. The Anandtech settings are also a starting point, planned around a Quad Core, but can easily be adjusted to suit Dual Core.
Master FTP link corrected with Taiwanese server. :cool:
TheSamurai
12-04-2007, 02:52 PM
can someone help me over clock to 2.5?
Overclock to 2.5GHz? Dude...?
leoftw
12-04-2007, 03:06 PM
what the lol ?
The idea of this thread was to keep all information in 1 or 2 key posts. I can update the first post daily with new information, downloads and settings.
Results are good too! :D
Grnfinger
12-04-2007, 04:32 PM
Here is a 3.4GHz setting 425x8
12 hour prime stable and 1 hour OCCT stable ( sorry Crysis is calling )
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : AUTO
CPU Voltage : 1.45 ( you may need to adjust this )
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 1.98
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
If this is in the wrong thread I'm sorry
pphx459
12-04-2007, 05:07 PM
Damn nice thread Kup! Wish you made it earlier, I read through all those freakin 150+ pages.. :p:
pphx459
12-04-2007, 05:10 PM
Those were listed in the last thread and I tried every single one of those .
I tried 450x8 ; 400x9 ; and they wouldn't even boot. I accidentally hit 450x9 once because I forgot to change the multiplier to 8 and I ended up booting stable with 4GHZ on air . I got scared because the temps were too high so I shut down but there was no way I could get it to 3.6:(
I'm sure you can get 400x9, it seems that this is a default for them Q6600's and this board. I tried 3 different cpu's and they all hit this without much voltage.
ElEctric_EyE
12-04-2007, 05:10 PM
Here is a 3.4GHz setting 425x8
12 hour prime stable and 1 hour OCCT stable ( sorry Crysis is calling )
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : AUTO
CPU Voltage : 1.45 ( you may need to adjust this )
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 1.98
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
If this is in the wrong thread I'm sorry
Now that's what I'm talkin about! I ain't up to an hour yet...
pphx459
12-04-2007, 05:16 PM
Working on 450x9 but here's 400x9:
Bios: 0505
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : STRONG
Transaction Booster : DISABLED
Boost Level : 0
CPU Voltage : 1.331 (1.32 actual)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45
DRAM Voltage : 2.1
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
First thread updated with Grnfinger's settings for 425x8.
pphx459
12-04-2007, 05:19 PM
oh hey, maybe you want to add the bios version in the template..
Updated with settings from pphx459.
oh hey, maybe you want to add the bios version in the template..
The Anandtech template works with pretty much every bios version. The user defined settings generally state which bios version they use.
S1mon-
12-04-2007, 05:38 PM
Here's my 24/7 settings for 450 x 8:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1199
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 9
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.30 (1.288V real) (you may need to adjust this)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.57 (1.58V real)
DRAM Voltage : 2.16 (2.22V real)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.46 (1.50V real)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.125 (got 5 satas)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.60
The CPU and RAM voltages are the lowest settings for P95 stability... I haven't tried lower for the vNB, vFSB, vSB and PLL... I will eventually :D
TheSamurai
12-04-2007, 05:42 PM
just figured i'd throw this in here... with bios 0602. for what it's worth, temps on NB are now at 35*C after reseat and adding water.
DMight
12-04-2007, 06:04 PM
Thanks for consolidating all this info kup. This will prove a fantastic resource for those just getting these boards.
wow... you guys did a great job here
wish something like this was compiled when i 1st got the board..
wouldve save me the trouble of reading 80+ when i 1st started to read
... and yes i did read all 80 pages at that time
Talonman
12-04-2007, 06:44 PM
Added RAID and Water cooling links.
Updated clock settings for Dual Core CPUs.
Amended AsusUpdate instructions for downgrading.
Thanks buddy!!
Keep up the good work.. :up:
ChaosMinionX
12-04-2007, 06:50 PM
kup - I would suggest advising against
AsusUpdate that allows downgrading from the 09xx series
Please note, you must use XP 32Bit to perform the flash, as the software fails to work on an x64 OS
AsusUpdate v6
Select 'Options', tick the downgrade box and the flash with bios of choice.
Since windows flashing of BIOS is alot more buggy/dangerous and could result in a "bricked" board. I would suggest posting the steps to using the ALT+F2 method with a thumbdrive, it too will allow you to downgrade, or upgrade accordingly and is alot safer :)
You could leave the steps for the Asusupdate and whatnot, but list it as the Unrecommended way of Flashing/Downgrading your BIOS, and the ALT+F2 as the preferred way of doing so, since alot of "new" users with this board will probably read the consolidation of the original Asus Maximus SE thread.
BulldogPO
12-05-2007, 12:56 AM
These are my 24/7 QMC settings for now:
BIOS 0903
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency :450
FSB Strap to North Bridge :AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 120
DRAM Frequency: DDR2 900
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 10
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 25
Write Recovery Time : 3
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 7
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
Ai Clock Twister : STRONG
Transaction Booster : DISABLED
CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.6v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v
DRAM Voltage : 2.16v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4v
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
loc.o
12-05-2007, 02:07 AM
Good job :up: If only i had the time i would have set up the old one better.
pazza316
12-05-2007, 03:00 AM
I was gonna try and older bios but evan with ASUS update version downloaded form here and selecting allow downgrade it will not let me flash back. Anyone else had this problem? and what was the work around?
TheSamurai
12-05-2007, 03:07 AM
kup - I would suggest advising against
Since windows flashing of BIOS is alot more buggy/dangerous and could result in a "bricked" board. I would suggest posting the steps to using the ALT+F2 method with a thumbdrive, it too will allow you to downgrade, or upgrade accordingly and is alot safer :)
You could leave the steps for the Asusupdate and whatnot, but list it as the Unrecommended way of Flashing/Downgrading your BIOS, and the ALT+F2 as the preferred way of doing so, since alot of "new" users with this board will probably read the consolidation of the original Asus Maximus SE thread.
doesn't work with the 0900 bios'.
The EZ Flash utility can't downgrade from bios 0902 onwards. The only way to do it is via the old version of AsusUpdate.
DMight
12-05-2007, 05:18 AM
kup, unless the intention is to direct all traffic to this thread, you might include a link to the original Maximus thread so people can work through it if they so desire. With a disclaimer warning of it's length and complexity, of course. ;)
Heh, maybe "While you're torture testing your Maximus Formula motherboard, see if you yourself can endure the torture test that is the Original Maximus Formula thread."
NysoO
12-05-2007, 07:09 AM
Kup, was just thinking about these settings that you have in the bios. Maybe you could explain what they all do? I mean you know what Vcore and FSB and all that is but, like "CPU GTL Reference" and "Transaction Booster" etc.
Would be really nice of you!
iadstudio
12-05-2007, 07:26 AM
could someone post current utilities and which version of them give acurate temp readings on this board?
Creek Tha Gray
12-05-2007, 08:03 AM
will try for 4ghz club with my q6700 and phase with this mobo with ek water all around will post asap waiting on the ek waterblocks.
DMight
12-05-2007, 09:29 AM
NysoO, I recommend that you and anyone else interested in explanatinos of the BIOS settings take a look at this review from Anandtech:
Anandtech review of Asus P5E3 (http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3156&p=4) (page 4, which is where they begin their BIOS explanation and tweaking guide.)
Bios settings and their functions added via links to Anandtech.
ChaosMinionX
12-05-2007, 10:50 AM
I flashed 902 and still could downgrade back to 802? What error did it give?
On most boards it says that the bios (pre 0902) is no compatible and refuses to flash.
pazza316
12-05-2007, 01:22 PM
Has anyone seen a quad stable above 470 FSB on this board I am actually fully prime OCCT stable at this point but 1mhz higher I cat pass these tests. Any ideas?
Budwise
12-05-2007, 01:40 PM
the last time i did a BIOS update with Asus Update my P5K Premium became a paperweight. DONT do it. Even the Asus Tech Support guy i talked to said NEVER do it.
pazza316
12-05-2007, 01:54 PM
I agree Dos or EZ Flash are much more reliable and stable Bios flashing tools.
simonmaltby
12-05-2007, 03:17 PM
I just updated to Bios 903 as its now properly released.
I see it has the 1/2 multis but selecting them on my QX9650 just boots at the lower whole number, yet the bios remains saying the half.. i.e. if i set 10.5 it boots as 10 but the bios still says 10.5
Does anyone know if its the bios not working or does the QX9650 not support 1/2 multies?
Thanks.
safan80
12-05-2007, 03:19 PM
I just updated to Bios 903 as its now properly released.
I see it has the 1/2 multis but selecting them on my QX9650 just boots at the lower whole number, yet the bios remains saying the half.. i.e. if i set 10.5 it boots as 10 but the bios still says 10.5
Does anyone know if its the bios not working or does the QX9650 not support 1/2 multies?
Thanks.
what does cpu-z say?
simonmaltby
12-05-2007, 03:22 PM
what does cpu-z say?
whole number. Its definatly not clocking to the 1/2's its just the bios that retains the info.
Grnfinger
12-05-2007, 04:11 PM
not a 100% on this but the .5 multi's are for the new Penryns
S1mon-
12-05-2007, 04:16 PM
Has anyone seen a quad stable above 470 FSB on this board I am actually fully prime OCCT stable at this point but 1mhz higher I cat pass these tests. Any ideas?
I haven't been able to reach 475 FSB stable with this board yet with a quad :S
ChaosMinionX
12-05-2007, 04:24 PM
My board will do 500mhz FSB on my Q6600, havent primed it at all but its fully benchable with futuremark suites at this.
leoftw
12-05-2007, 10:18 PM
finally I'm at 3.2GHZ on 1.32V , going to attempt going higher . :)
Is it a bad idea leaving the ram voltage on auto
leoftw
12-05-2007, 11:00 PM
lol wtf notice the cpu differences in coretemp and cpuz wtf !!!!!!!
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/leoforthewin/Untitled-5.jpg
Scooby
12-05-2007, 11:05 PM
Way to go kup:up: You have now made it easier for other MAX user and myself to get the facts, drivers, Bios and well everything.
Well done my friend well done!!!!:up:
Hey kup, are the drivers at Intel's site any good or newer? If so shouldn't they be also added to your links on the first post.
leoftw
12-05-2007, 11:06 PM
how do I retrieve the information from occt when its done. I finish the test but I don't know where the results are.
lol wtf notice the cpu differences in coretemp and cpuz wtf !!!!!!!
BIG PIC...
CoreTemp is reading the VID, not the vCore. VID is the Intel set vCore for default operation for your particular chip. CPU-Z is reading the vCore, which is the actual vCore.
how do I retrieve the information from occt when its done. I finish the test but I don't know where the results are.
You need to assign a sensor monitoring program to OCCT for it to read and then report the various sensors and voltages.
Way to go kup:up: You have now made it easier for other MAX user and myself to get the facts, drivers, Bios and well everything.
Well done my friend well done!!!!:up:
Hey kup, are the drivers at Intel's site any good or newer? If so shouldn't they be also added to your links on the first post.
Not sure off the top of my head, I'll check the dates and update if I find something good?
My board will do 500mhz FSB on my Q6600, havent primed it at all but its fully benchable with futuremark suites at this.
Care to share the settings?
Original thread link added! ;)
simonmaltby
12-06-2007, 12:55 PM
I changed my bios yesterday to 903 and found i was very unstable. I tried adjusting all kinds of things and it was just not there.
So i slept on it and tried again this morning... anyway...
Firstly i just set everything as before except the voltages. I left my Vdimm at 2.16 because my ram is rated at 2.26 and the board overvolts 2.16 to 2.27
Then i set the vcore to 1.335 as was needed for Prime stable at 4Ghz and left every thing else to auto.
Believe it or not this was 100% rock stable.
By just changing the vcore i have been able to do 8 hours prime small fft at 4.3 - 430x100 with 1.45v vcore and hit 428x11 4,7 for superpi.
It will not go higher than 435 with these settings but imo thats a right result from the bios. 903 rocks.
Durkadurka
12-06-2007, 01:49 PM
What kind of pencil do you use to do the Vdroop pencil mod?
I used a 4B pencil. Used two or three stokes only.
pazza316
12-06-2007, 04:02 PM
ChaosMinionX do you have the 500 FSB settings you used please? It would be really helpful
zsamz_
12-06-2007, 05:21 PM
great thread you guys:up:
JH_man
12-07-2007, 12:25 AM
I changed my bios yesterday to 903 and found i was very unstable. I tried adjusting all kinds of things and it was just not there.
So i slept on it and tried again this morning... anyway...
Firstly i just set everything as before except the voltages. I left my Vdimm at 2.16 because my ram is rated at 2.26 and the board overvolts 2.16 to 2.27
Then i set the vcore to 1.335 as was needed for Prime stable at 4Ghz and left every thing else to auto.
Believe it or not this was 100% rock stable.
By just changing the vcore i have been able to do 8 hours prime small fft at 4.3 - 430x100 with 1.45v vcore and hit 428x11 4,7 for superpi.
It will not go higher than 435 with these settings but imo thats a right result from the bios. 903 rocks.
Can you either give a little more info on what you mean by 'all else to auto', or even post your settings?..
And does this mean 903 is better then the previous ones, but it somehow is more sensitive to fiddling too much with the settings?..
JH_man
pphx459
12-07-2007, 12:36 AM
ChaosMinionX do you have the 500 FSB settings you used please? It would be really helpful
This would definitely help, I think I hit a limit at 475, 450 is rock stable. Did some fsb testing at 475x7 but with max voltages (volts before red) the system will not post.
Aurhinius
12-07-2007, 01:00 AM
Got a weird issue here. Updated to latest 0903 bios and having SATA drive detection issues on restart. If I could boot the drives are normally detected okay and Vista boots.
Once in vista I ocassionally find one of my 3 drives seems to become disconnected and causes vista to lock up for 40 seconds or so.
I have 2 WD 500 AAKS's and a 200 gig Maxtor diamondmax 10 I think + a Samsung DVDRW.
Always is the 200 Gig Maxtor having issues. I am wondering if the DVD is interfering with it some how.
Anyone encountered this or have any advice.
The controller is in RAID mode as my WD's are raided.
I had the same issue with 0401 bios too. SB volts seem fine as well.
pazza316
12-07-2007, 01:15 AM
Anyone with over 470 FSB stable on Quad could you share settings please? I am still struggling with getting 1mhz more when 470 primes for 12 hours and OCCT is 100% stable.
Aurhinius
12-07-2007, 02:12 AM
Well seems as if the issue might be my Diamondmax 10 drive. It is the drive that keeps thinking it has been disconnected while vista is running and causes all sorts of bizarre issues.
Done a little searching and seems people had the issue when they were nforce 4 drives.
Seemed okay on my 975....
Grrr
BulldogPO
12-07-2007, 04:44 AM
Dudes, does bios 0903 work with QX9770, cos I have one sitting on my desk...
pazza316
12-07-2007, 05:30 AM
Test it Bulldog! It should do yes!
BulldogPO
12-07-2007, 05:34 AM
I will, tomorrow. Cos today I clelebrate that CPU with good Irish whiskey :)
Photos here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/sunbulls/QX9770
Creek Tha Gray
12-07-2007, 08:44 AM
not a 100% on this but the .5 multi's are for the new Penryns
after looking around i would say the .5 multi's are for the new penryns due to there fsb speeds.
pphx459
12-07-2007, 01:05 PM
Anyone with over 470 FSB stable on Quad could you share settings please? I am still struggling with getting 1mhz more when 470 primes for 12 hours and OCCT is 100% stable.
Hey Pazza, try running over 470 with a 7 multiplier, let me know if you can break it..
I got another board to see if this board is limited to around 470..
pazza316
12-07-2007, 02:23 PM
I can run 470+ with 8x no problems. Fully stable but I need voltages of NB 1.74 and FSB 1.75.
With 9x no good.
I know my CPU can do this and more.
On a P35 chip board (P5K Premium) my CPU did 9 x 489 Prime and OCCT stable. But not on this board. I got this for X fire where it is much better than P5K.
ninogui
12-07-2007, 05:02 PM
Test it Bulldog! It should do yes!
no it doesnt!! send it to me !
lololol
just kiddin, good luck on that (and on the whisky)
Eastcoasthandle
12-07-2007, 10:08 PM
Wow, the fusion has way to much restriction for my D5 pump. I already knew that it was restrictive but, when I attempted to blow into it and notice the amount of force required to get air exit the other barb I was concerned. My concerns were verified when I installed my loop. My pump began making a noise I never heard before and that worried me. The force of the water exiting the loop into the res was far lower then normal, to low for my liking. In a nutshell if you don't find a SE I wouldn't be worried. Put a fan on the N/S bridge and call it a day IMO. Or, use all 3/8" ID tubing (I had 1/2" ID tubing).
eSp!s0
12-08-2007, 05:40 AM
Here are my C2D settings with 450x8 and ram at 1200mhz. Tested over night, stable. For the first post perhaps:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2612429&postcount=4151
Added to the main post, eSp!s0. :)
eSp!s0
12-08-2007, 02:24 PM
I`m so proud and happy with working 400strap :bravo:
:D
Darkstormz
12-08-2007, 05:45 PM
I just got some trouble here.
Was about to reboot and the computer rebooted, but then it said CPU INIT.
Tried to clear cmos, put battery out for 15min.
I took the motherboard out too and checked everything.
Will try with a different cpu tomorrow...
iTravis
12-08-2007, 08:20 PM
I got this board with 4B Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800, can I start out with 3.0Ghz first and work all the way up to 3.6Ghz? I'm currently using 0602 btw. Any advices are welcome and appreciated. :)
leoftw
12-09-2007, 01:32 AM
good luck I'm testing my setup as I type this. so far I'm on 1.52V and not even stable . I'm trying to get it to 3.6ghz. I get frustrated easy so I've actually been trying for about a week now . all together about 8hrs for 3.6ghz :shakes:
Grnfinger
12-09-2007, 07:55 AM
I fianlly got 3.6GHz stable again on the 8 multi thanks to nuckin_futs.
Now to get bios 903 to run my setup
iTravis
12-09-2007, 01:54 PM
Anyone? Guide for 3.0Ghz?
safan80
12-09-2007, 02:12 PM
Anyone? Guide for 3.0Ghz?
ask leo ;)
TheSamurai
12-09-2007, 03:48 PM
3.0?
375 x 8... leave everything else on auto. 3GHz shouldn't be a problem at all.
leoftw
12-09-2007, 03:54 PM
I fianlly got 3.6GHz stable again on the 8 multi thanks to nuckin_futs.
Now to get bios 903 to run my setup
Thats great !! what are your temps .
Zucker2k
12-09-2007, 04:56 PM
good luck I'm testing my setup as I type this. so far I'm on 1.52V and not even stable . I'm trying to get it to 3.6ghz. I get frustrated easy so I've actually been trying for about a week now . all together about 8hrs for 3.6ghz :shakes:
1. What are your temps? If 64c scares you, you might as well stop trying to get to 3.6Ghz unless you're planning to go chilled liquid or something. A few days ago, I saw 100c on my quad when the loop kinked. So these CPUs can take a lot of heat into the high 80s.
2. Are those 4x1 rams your running capable of the speeds your pushing them? 4 sticks = plenty volts on the NB. You could try two sticks first, then 4 to eliminate that problem as a factor in your poor overclocks.
3. What are your settings?
leoftw
12-09-2007, 05:50 PM
1. What are your temps? If 64c scares you, you might as well stop trying to get to 3.6Ghz unless you're planning to go chilled liquid or something. A few days ago, I saw 100c on my quad when the loop kinked. So these CPUs can take a lot of heat into the high 80s.
2. Are those 4x1 rams your running capable of the speeds your pushing them? 4 sticks = plenty volts on the NB. You could try two sticks first, then 4 to eliminate that problem as a factor in your poor overclocks.
3. What are your settings?
Here is what I remember from my settings
FSB=400
Multiplier=9
FSB Strap=400
CPU Voltage=1.4-1.5 it boots up everytime but crashes occt
my temps at 1.4 are around 58-65c depending on the cpu voltage
ddr2800 is what I set it at
the voltage for the ram is set at 2.0
I can't remember what I put on the northbridge.
joe.denice
12-09-2007, 05:59 PM
now for my setup, should I try the FSB strap at 400?? I am stable right now already at 4ghz (10x400) with my setup now.
leoftw
12-09-2007, 06:35 PM
now for my setup, should I try the FSB strap at 400?? I am stable right now already at 4ghz (10x400) with my setup now.
wtf ! whats your setup ?
joe.denice
12-09-2007, 07:14 PM
look at my sig, sorry I just updated it.
leoftw
12-09-2007, 07:23 PM
I thought you had a different cpu
BulldogPO
12-09-2007, 10:56 PM
With 0903 bios those 0.5 multis do´nt work.
w0lla
12-10-2007, 12:11 AM
I picked/ordered this board with Ultima-90 and OCZ reaper memory (2 x 2gb). Is there enough space around the cpu socket so that the ultima-90 wont touch the memories ?
joe.denice
12-10-2007, 03:54 AM
With 0903 bios those 0.5 multis do´nt work.
yeah i know, to bad, I was trying for 10.5x400 for 4.2ghz.
Aurhinius
12-10-2007, 04:10 AM
Having problems getting over 3.3 Ghz stable on my Q6600 G0.
Does 3.33Ghz at 1.3v 415*8 rock solid.
Would like to get 3.6ghz tried 400*9 and I can't seem to stabilise it. Tried all the way up to 1.4v on vcore can get in to windows but Prime95 bluesceens vista after a 5 or so loops.
Seems 3.3 is my sweetspot as the VID for my CPU is 1.3. Guess I got a duff one.
Bios 903.
Any advice?
Unless you got a bloody good CPU you'll need more than 1.4v for 3.6GHz. Stick it to 1.5v and once it passes a few hours of prime small ffts, lower it a notch (1.485v?) and try again, repeat until it becomes too unstable, bump the voltage up one notch and retest. It should now be stable.
Aurhinius
12-10-2007, 05:00 AM
Cheers Kup will give it a shot.
Any advice on CPuPLL? Currently using 1.5v
jas420221
12-10-2007, 09:30 AM
AWESOME THREAD!
I have one of these on the way along with a e6750. My last o/c endeavors were with an A64 so this will definately be neede.
Subscribed!
EDIT: Where is the generic Maximus Formula thread? Is it that monster 4k+ post thread?
It is indeed the monster 4k+ post thread. There is a link in the first post here!
leoftw
12-10-2007, 09:54 AM
kup I'm going to give 1.5V a shot tonight . I didn't want to go that high but screw it ! whats the worst that could happen :P
Cool. What cooling you got on that chip?
Grnfinger
12-10-2007, 01:07 PM
Thats great !! what are your temps .
my idle is 35-33-33-30 on Everest
load is 55-55-52-50 on Everest
North and South hit 43 on full load
working on a 3.8GHz now
mouawad
12-11-2007, 12:46 AM
Cheers Kup will give it a shot.
Any advice on CPuPLL? Currently using 1.5v
move it up a couple of notches, on my chip it was vital to give cpupll some juice past 3.6 but my chip is a nice clocker so if your's isn't you might need it @ 3.3+ for eg.
Leeghoofd
12-11-2007, 02:08 AM
I wanted to update the bios yesterday to the 0903 version for the Maximus Formula SE, though it always gives Asus signature not found in EZ flash and aborts the flash...
Any ideas ? I'm currently on 0701 bios, maybe a newer version updates the EZ flash too... tried to the 0903 bios from the ftp and official site , same warning pffffffff
BulldogPO
12-11-2007, 03:56 AM
I did some overclocking with QX9770 and my Maximus:
SuperPi 1M 10.533sec:
http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=65403&thumb=false
PiFast 21.80sec:
http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=65687&thumb=false
PCMark05 14.186sec:
http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=65690&thumb=false
wPrime v1.55 results:
http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=65401&thumb=false
Geforce 8800GT 512MB 3DMark06 15506pts:
http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=65686&thumb=false
I and one friend of mine made a little review of that CPU finnish language:
mato78.com QX9770 testissä (http://mato78.com/artikkelit/artikkelit/testissa-intel-core-2-extreme-qx9770)
It really is damn hot CPU, at 24/7 clocks 10x420MHz and 1.45V Vcore temps are constant 72C when crunching QMC.
jas420221
12-11-2007, 05:31 AM
So what is the best (most stable) o/c BIOS so far? Are the 0901/2 worth it even though they are both in beta?
BulldogPO
12-11-2007, 06:34 AM
0903
joe.denice
12-11-2007, 06:56 AM
Hey Bulldog, was that overclocking on air??
jas420221
12-11-2007, 07:03 AM
0903...is not on Asus website as of yesterday... :shrug:
Check the very first post of this thread...
jas420221
12-11-2007, 07:21 AM
OMG. Im retarded. Thanks for your patience.
Im sure I will be in this thread a lot come friday when she is built. Im relaly hoping to get 3.8Ghz on air with Tuniq 120. :)
joe.denice
12-11-2007, 07:26 AM
hey Jas, what part of MD do you live near??
jas420221
12-11-2007, 07:30 AM
hey Jas, what part of MD do you live near??Right between DC and Bmore. Odenton.
Hi neighbor! :clap:
teknokid
12-11-2007, 09:06 AM
Hi there guys,
I just picked up my maximus formula se, and have got my q6600 upto 3ghz with ease :) (1.3v)
Anyway, ive seen a lot of you are using 4gb crucial ballistix, i have 4gb as well (albeit 5300 edition) which worked amazing on my striker.
I was wondering how you got yours to work? myn will only work with everything on auto (so i get slack timings and only 667mhz) and even then its using 2.25v.
All other bios stuff is auto besides vcore and fsb, what should i try?
Many thanks
Renegade5399
12-11-2007, 10:45 AM
You have to up the NB voltage. 4 sticks stresses the mem controller and to make up for that you need to bump the NB volts.
teknokid
12-11-2007, 10:57 AM
well i put the boost thing to relax 3, does that sound ok?
btdvox
12-11-2007, 11:21 AM
Transaction Booster:
Ranges here are from 0-7 (0-3 are stated as usable in BIOS), with either the "Enabled" or "Disabled" setting. The 0 setting with either "Enabled" or "Disabled" selects the default tRD level for the NB strap and memory divider combination. The Enabled function lowers tRD (tRD -1) and/or tRD phases with each additional digit over 0, meaning an upward scale increase or boost is more aggressive with Transaction Booster set to Enabled. If using the 333 NB strap, set Transaction Booster to Disabled and use either 0 or 1 as the "Relax level" setting. When using the Relax setting range (Disabled Transaction Booster), using higher numbers will increase tRD (tRD +1) and tRD Phase adjust for lower overall performance, allowing access to higher FSB speeds. For quad-core overclocking the 400 NB strap performs best with Transaction Booster set to Enabled and 0 as the Boost Level setting - unless you're chasing higher FSB speeds at the expense of overall performance. Dual-core CPUs capable of high FSB speeds may use the "Relaxed" setting of 3 if outright FSB speed is the goal.
This is taken from anandtech, At the bottom it states you can use the relaxed setting of 3 is this DISABLED and 3 or ENABLED and 3?
Im getting poorer performance from 0903, and ive tried everything except for higher enabled levels as sometimes it wont post, i prob have to give soem more juice to get the same level which sucks, but as long as i get it i dont care, and i dont want to downgrade my bios as im worried of bricking it .l As i bricked my P5K Premium using ASUS UPDATE in windows.
what to do?
i might try a new OC tonight too and use 480X8 instead of 427X9
teknokid
12-11-2007, 01:12 PM
Thanks, well ive got myn disabled with relaxed on 3, with ram @ 1111mhz 5-5-5-15 2.2v. Would you recomend lower frequency for a lower transaction booster?
Thanks
Hey guys I got a Maximus on my way, I want to replace the stock heatpipe for a Thermalright HR05 IFX and for the SB a enzotech low profile copper block. But since I want to mount my TRUE Vertical, should I pick the regular IFX or the SLI? btw I am using a OCZ XTC cooler, but if thats in the way it could be replaced by a simple 80mm fan over it......Any one got this combination and can confirm it will fit?
pphx459
12-11-2007, 02:30 PM
Check the liquid cooling section, it has a few threads on cooling the maximus.
I am not going liquid.. the NB and SB just air.
TheSamurai
12-11-2007, 05:33 PM
AsusUpdate that allows downgrading from the 09xx series
Please note, you must use XP 32Bit to perform the flash, as the software fails to work on an x64 OS
just to let you know, this doesn't work either. tried to go to 0602 and it wouldn't let me.
Warboy
12-11-2007, 05:40 PM
anyone figured out the voltage problems yet? I've tested it, and It seems when i use dual-channel mode, It has problems. But When I use Single-channel mode everything runs smooth.
ElEctric_EyE
12-11-2007, 06:13 PM
just to let you know, this doesn't work either. tried to go to 0602 and it wouldn't let me.
What OS are you running dude?
ElEctric_EyE
12-11-2007, 06:16 PM
anyone figured out the voltage problems yet? I've tested it, and It seems when i use dual-channel mode, It has problems. But When I use Single-channel mode everything runs smooth.
Are the Vspikes there when you aren't OC'ing?
Buckeye
12-11-2007, 06:45 PM
Just a few posts here on this board and I am a OC newbe but thought I
would post this and see what you guys think.
This is for a 3.6 Ghz OC with a QX6700
This is with the stock BIOS or 0401. I will update that in a bit after I finish
backing up everything. Not real sure which is a good working BIOS atm and
reading through these threads, 902,903 seem to give others problems and
hard to flash backwards. I think I have seen a few posts with 602 or 802
that seem to work fine.
I used the basic setup from the first post and worked from there. Using a
8x450 would not post for me, even up to CPU 1.5v. At that point I changed
to 9x400 and it went smooth. Ended up dropping to CPU 1.468v and that has
been stable all day.
So in the end I just wanted to give this BIOS a shot to see what it could do.
In Everest it shows the CPU temp, then the temps for all 4 cores which seem
to be higher temp's. Which are the correct temps ?
I will most likely not Prime this as I will update the BIOS and will do it then.
And Thanks a bunch for this updated thread !
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [9]
FSB Frequency [400]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [400MHz]
PCIE Frequency [100]
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [Auto]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time [12]
RAS# To Ras# Delay [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [42]
Write Recovery Time [6]
Read To Precharge Time [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [8]
Write To Read Delay(S) [3]
Write To Read Delay(D) [5]
Read To Read Delay(S) [4]
Read To Read Delay(D) [6]
Write To Write Delay(S) [4]
Write To Write Delay(D) [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Light]
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage [1.468v]
CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]
North Bridge Voltage [1.49v]
DRAM Voltage [2.1v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.4v]
South Bridge Voltage [Auto]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage [Auto]
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4044/36ghzsetuprestults2ml9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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CPU: Intel Core 2 QX6700 (Quad Core) Extreme Processor, (Stock 2.66 ghz, 1066 MHz FSB, 8 MB L2 Cache)
Coolit Systems Freezone Thermoelectric CPU Cooler
Mother Board: ASUS Maximus Formula SE
Memory: 2 gig Corsair Dominator DDR2 1066 MHz, SLI ready
2 x 74 gig SATA2 Western Digital 10,000 rpm Raptors in Raid 0 - OS, Programs
2 x 500 gig SATA2 Western Digital 7,200 rpm in Raid 0 - Programs, Data
BFG 8800GTX OC
PSU: Enermax Galaxy DxX EGX 1,000 watt
Dell 2407WFP
SilverStone TJ09B
Windows Vista Ultimate x86 with SP 1
Warboy
12-11-2007, 08:58 PM
Are the Vspikes there when you aren't OC'ing?
in a way, There more minor at stock settings, but When I get past 420x9 it starts doing huge 1.0v dimm and chipset voltage drops
TheSamurai
12-12-2007, 03:27 AM
What OS are you running dude?
well... when i tried that i was in 32, which i know is what you're supposed to use. had it worked for others? i'm going to try afudos and see where in hell that takes me. this is annoying.
teknokid
12-12-2007, 09:32 AM
has anyone worked out how to sort the high voltage on 4gb ram? its set to 2.1 on myn but i get 2.2...
TheSamurai
12-12-2007, 09:44 AM
has anyone worked out how to sort the high voltage on 4gb ram? its set to 2.1 on myn but i get 2.2...
set it .1 lower in bios. :)
intothefantasy
12-12-2007, 09:54 AM
i wonder wat does the EPU driver for in the driver cd? i never install it...does it bring any good? i still have cpu temp problem...seems like all my core at 62,62,59,59 and my cpu temp show in everest is at 66,65....is this a problem or wat? is like the temp is higher then the core for 3-4c
teknokid
12-12-2007, 10:01 AM
lol, ok well ill set it .1 lower :)
Whats the memory static thing do? sorry i keep forgetting the names, i never had them on my striker extreme.e.....
Also, im getting 65 degrees on my NB, is this too high? im going to try add it to my water loop later...
-------Edit------
This is the latest that i have got, not pushing too hard on the cpu until i get a new loop(s) for christmas....
What do you think of the NB voltage? I had just run memtest for 2 hours, so that is higher than normal....
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/4862/mobobd0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
TheSamurai
12-12-2007, 01:46 PM
yeah, 65*C is quite high... i believe anything over 47* or so is where you see instability issues, according to anandtech. i think i'm at 38-40*C underload. this is with the NB heatsink reseated and water added. i was at 53* before doing these two things. 1.54v fwiw.
newls1
12-12-2007, 02:52 PM
Ok, please someone help me by answering this question: I have a Maximus formula coming here in a few days, and was wondering / hoping there is a fix for this CPU temp reading issue. I use coretemp for my cpu monitoring, so will this still affect coretemps readings? I would hate to have spend 249USD on this board, only to have it display way off temps LOL. Thank you
TheSamurai
12-12-2007, 04:19 PM
Ok, please someone help me by answering this question: I have a Maximus formula coming here in a few days, and was wondering / hoping there is a fix for this CPU temp reading issue. I use coretemp for my cpu monitoring, so will this still affect coretemps readings? I would hate to have spend 249USD on this board, only to have it display way off temps LOL. Thank you
coretemp is fine. its different bios versions that affect the readout with asus probe.
intothefantasy
12-13-2007, 01:31 AM
ya coretemp is fine...the only thing is not fine for me is the CPU temp i get either everest and speedfan always show 4c more then the cores...etc 1st core get 60c CPU temp show 64-65...i think it should be -3-4c rite?
ElEctric_EyE
12-13-2007, 02:47 AM
i wonder wat does the EPU driver for in the driver cd? i never install it...does it bring any good? i still have cpu temp problem...seems like all my core at 62,62,59,59 and my cpu temp show in everest is at 66,65....is this a problem or wat? is like the temp is higher then the core for 3-4c
when I had the original BIOS 0401, and tried to install the EPU drivers, one touch of the keyboard would lock the computer. I havent touched epu since. May be a 32/64 bit OS issue, who knows... If you install it shout back ok.
JH_man
12-13-2007, 03:26 AM
Hmm not sure I installed the EPU driver, but the only driver/util I had a problem with in Vista 64bit from the CD was the AI Suite. It made Vista hang, so I removed it.
JH_man
the0ne
12-13-2007, 03:36 AM
Exellent thread. Getting my board on tuesday next week.
Wzp wuth the watercooling heatsink, if im not going to use water is active air recommended?
eSp!s0
12-13-2007, 06:06 AM
I`m thinking about buying aircoolers for my NB and SB.
My system is air only and I have the SE Formula. I don`t want to change to water. But my NB temps are a bit to high wirth stockpipe and air. I looked at the HR-05 series and want to knwo, if I can remove NB construction only or if the SB has to be removed, too and I have to buy an SB cooler, too?
I have a TRU120E vertically mounted with one 120mm on each side(front and back) and an 8800GTS(1.PCIe) with HR-03+ mounted downside and HR-11 between TRU120E and casebackside.
What HR-05 will fit there and what cooler for SB is good, if I would need it? They should be passiv.
teknokid
12-13-2007, 07:12 AM
i am getting water blocks soon for the whole motherboard, just a matter of waiting...
Buckeye
12-13-2007, 07:23 AM
It's pretty clear that the Freezone is having a hard time at 3.6 with my setup. It also looks like I might need to reseat the CPU cooling block as temps seem float around a lot on each core.
Plus I still need to update the BIOS, just a bit unsure on which version to use atm. Some of you guys say 0903 and some say thats unstable and gives poor performance.
Grnfinger
12-13-2007, 01:19 PM
802 has proved to be the best for me.
I can hit up to 485x8
I dont use the 9 multi much, others have had great results with 903 but I have found it CRAP on a quad core, but thats just my 2 cents
w0lla
12-13-2007, 02:11 PM
dang, just got this board today with a G0 q6600 + ultima-90 with a 120mm fan @~2000rpm. but when I run prime95 some of the cores woop above 55, one is even high as 58 and 2 are around 48. Checking these temps with everest. How the hell do ppl keep theyr cpus idling below 30 and loading below 40-50 with the same heatsink..doesnt seem that much greater than from the stock ..
So is this some Bios fault? I havent updated the bios yet
zsero
12-13-2007, 02:20 PM
I would like to build a Q6600 system based on Maximus Formula, but I live in a region where some memory brands are well known with all their models (Kingston, Geil, Kingmax), and some brands are totally unknown (Mushkin, Micron, Crucial for example). For this reason I have a hard time choosing the RAM for my new rig. Everything I know is that I will need 4 GB of RAM, and I will overclock my system a bit (to the level it's still quiet for a living room, using air cooling).
From the posts I read and from future proof reasons I really think I will need 2x2GB insted of 4x1GB sticks. Do you think is it the way to go?
If I go with 2x2GB, I have the following choise of RAM's.
OCZ XTC Gold
OCZ XTC Platinum
OCZ Vista Upgrade Edition
OCZ Reaper HPC
OCZ XTC Titanum
OCZ DDR2-1000: ReaperX (will be way too expensive)
Geil Black Dragon
Geil Black Dragon EVO ONE
Geil Ultra
Corsair TwinX DHX
Kingston KVR800D2N5K2
Patriot PDC24G6400ELK
Compustocx Overclocking CEC (German specialist company)
Kingmax, A-Data
At local prices, the OCZ XTC Titanium, Patriot, Kingston, Corsair are costing about the same (~290 USD), while Compustocx is cheaper by 30% and Geil, Kingmax, A-Data are half the price! Why does OCZ have so many models, is it because they have really big experience with 2x2GB models, or it's just marketing and they are labeling the same PCB-s and chips differently (Vista and Crysis RAM sounds like this...). What would you choose considering the price differences I wrote? Stability is important since I would like to work on that machine too.
Grnfinger
12-13-2007, 02:22 PM
Coretemp will give you somewhat of an acurate reading
there are some bios issues temp wise atm
Asus has been spitting bios's out like cheap 2 dollar whore's so they might eventually get it right.
TheSamurai
12-13-2007, 02:27 PM
so has anybody actually had success back flashing with the utility on the first page? i sure as hell haven't. i also tride different methods of afudos but i can't figure out a way to have the all the files i need on the disk... usb didn't work nor did cd.
Grnfinger
12-13-2007, 02:34 PM
so has anybody actually had success back flashing with the utility on the first page? i sure as hell haven't. i also tride different methods of afudos but i can't figure out a way to have the all the files i need on the disk... usb didn't work nor did cd.
you on a 64 bit OS?
w0lla
12-13-2007, 02:38 PM
so what bios should I take;)
I've had success, so has Grnfinger and a few others from the first thread.
Hardlock
12-13-2007, 09:16 PM
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, it's my first post here,
anyway I am just about ready to buy this board (or possibly a maximus extreme) but i ran across this statement on bit-tech's review of the Formula and Extreme under the "Stability" heading
here: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2007/11/22/asus_maximus_formula_and_extreme/15
[qoute]
"The Formula was far less reliable (than the extreme)- twice, within a couple of hours of starting, the PC had either rebooted or crashed 3DMark06. We tried a complete OS reinstall and used a dual-core CPU instead of quad-core, but the result was the same. Even though it had been stable throughout testing, it certainly was not happy under extended load."
Anyone experience this under exended load with their board or is it just an isolated incident with Bit-Tech's particular board.
thanx=)
Warboy
12-13-2007, 10:38 PM
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, it's my first post here,
anyway I am just about ready to buy this board (or possibly a maximus extreme) but i ran across this statement on bit-tech's review of the Formula and Maximus under the "Stability" heading
here: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2007/11/22/asus_maximus_formula_and_extreme/15
[qoute]
"The Formula was far less reliable (than the extreme)- twice, within a couple of hours of starting, the PC had either rebooted or crashed 3DMark06. We tried a complete OS reinstall and used a dual-core CPU instead of quad-core, but the result was the same. Even though it had been stable throughout testing, it certainly was not happy under extended load."
Anyone experience this under exended load with their board or is it just an isolated incident with Bit-Tech's particular board.
thanx=)
Yes I have these problem too, Basiclly The board wears out too fast. When i got these board i could do 450x9 easy, but once it aged It got lower and lower, now i can't do more then 420x9 without crashing No matter the voltage.
cuke2u
12-14-2007, 12:18 AM
Hi, wears out :rofl: Actually I've managed to increase my overclock since sorting out my cooling. I think that bit-tech had other issues as the motherboards are more or less exactly the same the only difference being is in the use of DDR3, that might be a clue to bit-techs issues..
Chris
Renegade5399
12-14-2007, 03:48 AM
This board does not "wear out" too fast. Perhaps that was a joke? Tough to tell when reading text. Mine has actually gotten better now that 0903 came about and I invested some time. 506*8 with 1.54v, 4x1GB RAM @ DDR2 1215 - 5-5-5-15 with 2.25v, NB @ 1.63v - load temp 35°C on water, 12 hours stable under OCCT RAM, OCCT "Blend" (slider in the middle), OCCT CPU, Prime95, and 3dmark06 looping. I just got COD4 and Crysis for my birthday and have been playing them for hours (usually 3-4) at a time with 0 reboots, lockups, or BSODs. The board is of solid construction with a decent layout. It is however not Quad friendly with the older quads. Apparently the new Quads coming out play quite well with this board. I may snag one after the first of the year. sdumper was getting nice results with his.
I guess what I am saying is this:
People are blaming this board for a lot of issues they are having. Some may be caused by the board, but I think others are related to other issues. Issues like tired CPUs (migration is a b*tch), tired RAM, or possibly user error. I agree there may be a few of you with boards that are wearing out. I mean look at the voltages we had to apply with the first BIOS's that came out. In that case, I would RMA, get a fresh board, and try again.
My board has also improved. Becoming much more stable over time, allowing me to increase both CPU and FSB clocks...
Exentler
12-14-2007, 04:48 AM
Board Revisions
There are 2 known revisions of the Maximus Formula, the Special Edition, or SE, is the 1.02g revision, and the Non-SE version is the 1.03g revision. This is the only known difference, just a revision change to signify the difference in the package.
today my Maximus Formula non-SE arrived. but it was the 1.02g revision :shocked:
so the info which is the quote and first post concur.
changed also to AS5 under the heatsink to SB and NB.
edit: which BIOS is recommended at the time ?
How strange!
I'll leave it as is in the first post until I get a few more people report the same thing.
I'd go straight to bios 0903 as it does seem to be best for the majority of users now.
zsero
12-14-2007, 04:18 PM
Is it true that 1:1 setting would make a more stable system, which is better for 24/7 usage and 3D workstations? Or the saying that better go with 2x2 GB RAM than 4x1?
Kup, I am just before TwinX 4096 DHX, would you suggest it for an overclocked workstation system?
Well 2x2 would be easier to get stable then 4x1 and 1:1 should be the rule of a tumb to test a CPU overclock at first then work up the dividers, so u can outrule the cpu for instability and have a look at your RAM settings.
zsero
12-15-2007, 12:15 AM
But for 1:1 I would need a 1066 or faster RAM, which is expensive to get in 2 GB sticks. What would you do?
teknokid
12-15-2007, 02:24 AM
what 1066 for 1;1? thats an fsb of 533, which is pretty much impossible...
Leeghoofd
12-15-2007, 04:50 AM
But for 1:1 I would need a 1066 or faster RAM, which is expensive to get in 2 GB sticks. What would you do?
How about Gskill PC8000 4 gig kit sells here in germany for around 130 euro's mate about 180 dollars; will be fine for FSB up too 500FSB easily and with a tiny bit more voltage they 1066 too...
@Technokid 500+ FSB is not rare , with quads yes (most users get around 460-475 FSB) but with dual cores easy to do if ya got good hardware...
and cooling
Leeghoofd
12-15-2007, 04:55 AM
Yes I have these problem too, Basiclly The board wears out too fast. When i got these board i could do 450x9 easy, but once it aged It got lower and lower, now i can't do more then 420x9 without crashing No matter the voltage.
I don't want to contradict ya statement, but indeed it could be if you run these babies high FSB all of the time something can give in, hence why I only push daily up to 333-400FSB and only go higher for benching... just to be on the safe side...
teknokid
12-15-2007, 05:28 AM
even so, a 533 fsb is a lot...
w0lla
12-15-2007, 08:13 AM
hmm, have my q6600@3.0ghz(333x9), vcore:1.2v.
have prim95 running now, the temps are worrying.
celsius
core1: 68
core2: 63
core3: 58
core4: 57
latest bios.
Heatsink: Thermalright Ultima-90 + Adda 92mm (1500rpm).
no point for me to increase the vcore anymore, dont want to cross that 70 border..
Leeghoofd
12-15-2007, 08:20 AM
hmm, have my q6600@3.0ghz(333x9), vcore:1.2v.
have prim95 running now, the temps are worrying.
celsius
core1: 68
core2: 63
core3: 58
core4: 57
latest bios.
Heatsink: Thermalright Ultima-90 + Adda 92mm (1500rpm).
no point for me to increase the vcore anymore, dont want to cross that 70 border..
Something is a miss with ya mounting prolly, the fan is running full speed ?, too much paste ?
Just for comparison :
OCZ vendetta with Q6600@3ghz (fan at 1200RPM) max temps under prime for all cores 58°C
Thermalright Ultra 120 with Papst GL fan : 51°C max coretemp under prime 95
Plz remount ya cooler it has to give ya better temps than that !!
w0lla
12-15-2007, 08:32 AM
thing is, even with the screws fully down u can slightly rotate the cooler, its not firmly attached
using everest ultimate to check these temps.
are those temp bad for the core? I think I read that one shouldnt press the core above 75'C
golfjam
12-15-2007, 09:19 AM
Why everybody wants to use bios 0903? I have 0602 and it's perfect. Is there any benefit for a Q6600??? I've tried it and couldn't boot past 3.0Ghz!
Leeghoofd
12-15-2007, 10:02 AM
thing is, even with the screws fully down u can slightly rotate the cooler, its not firmly attached
using everest ultimate to check these temps.
are those temp bad for the core? I think I read that one shouldnt press the core above 75'C
We placed some thin cardboard or sticky tape under the retention holder , so now it presses more firmly on the heatsink... damn my latest 2 thermalright Ultra120 and the eXtreme I assembled were solid fixed, they forgot the ultima then pffffffff :down:
w0lla
12-15-2007, 10:04 AM
well, I reattached the heatsink, took away the old as5, put on new. they idle around 43/40/33/37 (core 1,2,3,4). seems like the temps didnt improve even the slightest
could it be my fan?
92mm
28cfm
1500rpm
hmm they still load at the same temps,, annoying.., room temp ~23'C, open case
the heatsink is pretty firmly attached now too..
ok now one of the cores hit 74'C. what is this .............. had to stop prime
Leeghoofd
12-15-2007, 10:31 AM
25CFM isn't that great man, most 120mm fans blow more than twice air then your fan shifts...at a reasonable Db
I would look for a beefier model and I thought you could mount a 120mm fan onto the 90 series not ?
This one I mounted on some coolers is pretty inaudible too...
http://www.silenx.com/ixtremaprofans.asp?sku=ixp-64-14
Grnfinger
12-15-2007, 10:36 AM
well, I reattached the heatsink, took away the old as5, put on new. they idle around 43/40/33/37 (core 1,2,3,4). seems like the temps didnt improve even the slightest
could it be my fan?
92mm
28cfm
1500rpm
hmm they still load at the same temps,, annoying.., room temp ~23'C, open case
the heatsink is pretty firmly attached now too..
ok now one of the cores hit 74'C. what is this .............. had to stop prime
Just to clear things up .. you are applying the paste properly?
w0lla
12-15-2007, 10:37 AM
ok so do u reckon its the fan then, I got some 120mm fans here which I can test.
about the paste, well atleast I think so. A thin layer, smeared out with a credit card
Grnfinger
12-15-2007, 10:42 AM
ok so do u reckon its the fan then, I got some 120mm fans here which I can test.
about the paste, well atleast I think so. A thin layer, smeared out with a credit card
Not for a quad m8
go here and read instructions for a quad and re apply
http://www.arcticsilver.com/ins_route_step2intelas5.html
w0lla
12-15-2007, 10:49 AM
ah :banana::banana::banana::banana:,well I allways learn something new... lets see,, gotta apply it once more. thx for the link.
ok so I did it now and I added a 120mm Enermax fan @2200rpm. lets see how it will go.
a few mins in prime95: 48/45/40/42, seems pretty good :)
ok so,, 75 'C isnt lethal to this cpu right...
leoftw
12-15-2007, 11:20 AM
Not for a quad m8
go here and read instructions for a quad and re apply
http://www.arcticsilver.com/ins_route_step2intelas5.html
I don't know how AS5 works but I did that with the tuniq grease and was getting 80C + temps. Just do the slap on and spread with credit card method :P
w0lla
12-15-2007, 11:25 AM
heh, maybe its the fan then which put the temps down by 20'C
Grnfinger
12-15-2007, 11:34 AM
I have tried both cc and line method on the quad, the line method droped my temps 10 degrees...hard to argue with results like that.
Plus if the manufacturer recomends that method, then who if not them would know more?
w0lla
12-15-2007, 01:17 PM
ok it seems they max at around 55/52/46/48 (core1,2,3,4)
are these still too high @stock with ultima90 ?
Leeghoofd
12-15-2007, 01:28 PM
ok it seems they max at around 55/52/46/48 (core1,2,3,4)
are these still too high @stock with ultima90 ?
Is that with the 92 or 120 mm fan ?
w0lla
12-15-2007, 01:32 PM
thats with a 120mm enermax @2200rpm
a OFT question here, it used to be "taboo" to plug in 120mm fans directly to the motherboard :), how is it today? is it cool to use the motherboard fan places for 120mm fans.
and yea trying out a slight OC , 9x300 vcore:1.2V, if it works then its 9x333 . Gotta love the bios on this mobo, well compared to the gigabyte triton K8 one.
Why is that when I choose 1T in bios, cpuz shows me 2T?
newls1
12-16-2007, 08:16 AM
I cant seem to get my PC8500 Crucials happy with this motherboard. Can someone please help me set the SUB TIMINGS for this board? I had these sticks in my P5K-DLX and were doing great with sub timings set to AUTO, but this board seems to be VERY PICKY. I cant enable transaction booster at all as the system wont post. My ram is currently set to 4.4.4.12 @ oonly DDR1016 with memory relaxed to 1, and she still only posts half the time. Vdimm is @ 2.2. and I know this ram is 100% fine. Im thinking the sub timings are out of wack on auto, so I would like to set some RELAXED sub timings if some one can help me please. Thanks
mouawad
12-16-2007, 09:38 AM
Yes I have these problem too, Basiclly The board wears out too fast. When i got these board i could do 450x9 easy, but once it aged It got lower and lower, now i can't do more then 420x9 without crashing No matter the voltage.
:rofl: you're post was a joke right?
or is the maximus the first recycleable motherboard, in 4 more months it turns into dust :ROTF:
w0lla
12-16-2007, 11:20 AM
this is lame. My load temps are 58/55/49/49 with ultima-90 with a ~90cfm 120mm fan blowing in air + 92mm on the other side "blowing out". Vcore is around 1.225v in bios, and if read from cpuz 1.192v... Well good thing is Iam able to run the cpu @9x333 with 1.192v. no point for me to go further as I would have to increase vcore and temps would go above 60..
Wow, the fusion has way to much restriction for my D5 pump. In a nutshell if you don't find a SE I wouldn't be worried. Put a fan on the N/S bridge and call it a day IMO. Or, use all 3/8" ID tubing (I had 1/2" ID tubing).
Eastcoasthandle are you still air on the N/S bridge ? and how did you mount it ?
Any pics ?
Thanks was curious about this and read all over and seems your the only one to say something about after hours of reading original max posts.
Thanks Kup great thread
Grnfinger
12-16-2007, 03:30 PM
Eastcoasthandle are you still air on the N/S bridge ? and how did you mount it ?
Any pics ?
Thanks was curious about this and read all over and seems your the only one to say something about after hours of reading original max posts.
Thanks Kup great thread
I use the fuzion block with a d5 pump and 1/2 tube.
I did not find it was restrictive at all. My 8800 is nice and cool so are my north and south bridge. CPU is a tad hot right now but I'm running 3.9GHz atm and my idle is 42 celcius.
I will agree the fuzion block is rather cheesey, I have a MCW30 block might grab another and mount them over the holidays.
GRNfinger,
Let us know how it goes. Is the Extreme ddr3 only ? The Asus web site says "or ddr2" ???
iadstudio
12-16-2007, 05:45 PM
Anybody else having audio playback issues? My optical port plays sound perfectly, but anything plugged into the "supremefxII" soundcard gets some popping and static every few seconds. I tried spread spectrum and that wasn't it. Aside from reloading the audio driver, I don't know what else to do.
jas420221
12-17-2007, 12:02 PM
Anybody else having audio playback issues? My optical port plays sound perfectly, but anything plugged into the "supremefxII" soundcard gets some popping and static every few seconds. I tried spread spectrum and that wasn't it. Aside from reloading the audio driver, I don't know what else to do.Mine is fine....
and for sale!
ninogui
12-17-2007, 08:11 PM
Anybody else having audio playback issues? My optical port plays sound perfectly, but anything plugged into the "supremefxII" soundcard gets some popping and static every few seconds. I tried spread spectrum and that wasn't it. Aside from reloading the audio driver, I don't know what else to do.
hi there
that reminds me of the old days of creative sb / xfi crackles, related at that time with irq sharing / routing problems.
at the time was solved with pci port change for different irq redetection, disable legacy sound drivers on device manager.
course with the onboard sound supreme u cant use other pci port as its unique, but maybe u can try to change the irq port.
JH_man
12-18-2007, 12:56 AM
hi there
that reminds me of the old days of creative sb / xfi crackles, related at that time with irq sharing / routing problems.
at the time was solved with pci port change for different irq redetection, disable legacy sound drivers on device manager.
course with the onboard sound supreme u cant use other pci port as its unique, but maybe u can try to change the irq port.
If you read the sound card boards, it looks like crackles is still a problem...
JH_man
w0lla
12-18-2007, 03:58 AM
why is it that on the first boot screen it only says count: 2 ? In windows it recognizes 4 cores..
pazza316
12-18-2007, 07:55 AM
Guys Bios 0907 is up on the ASUS site. I am going out to teh football now so cant test yet. Antone testing please report results back here. Especially Quad FSB clocking and wether the straps are working correctly.
Cheers
Link for bios 0907 added.
w0lla
12-18-2007, 08:31 AM
no change log:(
iadstudio
12-18-2007, 08:49 AM
maybe 0907 will give acurate temps. 0903 doesn't (at least for me). I'm on 0505 and although it OCs nicely and is stable, it seems a bit flaky.
BulldogPO
12-18-2007, 09:58 AM
Gotta test if 0.5 multis are working in this bios...
cuke2u
12-18-2007, 10:43 AM
maybe 0907 will give acurate temps. 0903 doesn't (at least for me). I'm on 0505 and although it OCs nicely and is stable, it seems a bit flaky.
Hi, not really sure what you mean by inaccurate temps. If you are using probe, or the cpu reading in everest, then your temp reading will alway be inaccurate. You should use either coretemps, or the ones marked core#1, and so on, in everest. All this stuff about the bios reading the temps inaccurate is tosh, it's always been that way as it uses the external diode to take its reading from..
Chris
Zucker2k
12-18-2007, 10:53 AM
Why is that when I choose 1T in bios, cpuz shows me 2T?
Pro'lly CPU-Z bug. Everest does read it right.
Hi guys got my system up and running yesterday, i really want to overclock this but have never overclocked before.
I was going to try the example bios settings for anandtech on the first but noticed it was for dual core, and the other example settings from users i really dont know what to try first i dont want to zap my cpu straight away with wrong settings
Is there any settings guide for say 3ghz? as i just want to push it up gradually.
Im currently on q6600 with 4gb (2x2gb stick) of ocz reaperx ram, any help would be really appreciated.
edit: oops first example was for quad core my bad gonna try it out.
fornowagain
12-18-2007, 02:05 PM
Just playing with the board. Primed at 450x8 without much effort.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9429/x383600prime3tp7.th.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=x383600prime3tp7.jpg)
Can't for the life of me get it to bench at 4GHz (445x9), instant restarts as soon as the load starts, regardless of any voltages set. Tried 401, 602 & 903. Its not the cpu, put the same one back in my IP35 Pro and it'll bench all day at 4GHz 1.6v. I have a feeling its something to do with GTL settings. Setting 70% on my Abit made it stable, cant set past 63% on the maximus. Any ideas? Tried all the user configs, didnt help.
pazza316
12-18-2007, 03:40 PM
Just testing 0907 now. I can report the straps are still not working correctly 266 still no boot .Also 1:1 mem with 400 strap and 333 strap remains unstable.
Grendel66
12-18-2007, 11:02 PM
All this stuff about the bios reading the temps inaccurate is tosh, it's always been that way as it uses the external diode to take its reading from..
Well, I like to check the temp once in a while while poking around in the BIOS. My current reading w/ a 6850 and 907 is 4C. Would be nice tho. :p:
Family man 72
12-19-2007, 12:29 AM
Problem: A friend of mine has this mb and computer will not boot unless all settings are AUTO. Even if he changes AI Overclock Tuner to MANUAL then exit and save, comp shut down then boots and then shutdown. After that he has to press button to restart again and recieves message OVERCLOCK FAILED. He has tried 2 diff memories (Gskill HZ and Dominator 8500 in both slots) and 2 ps (TT1200 and Silverstone 850). Bios is 0903. All help is appreciated!
pazza316
12-19-2007, 02:52 AM
Guys 0907 seems the same for clocking as 0903 really. Only done short testing but no real difference I can see. Just testing all STRAP / DDR combinations to see if any have improved in terms of both speed and high FSB clocking.
NoobCake
12-19-2007, 03:52 AM
JUst wondering guys, i was looking at buying a Asus maximus formula and are any of you guys gonna be upgrading to X48 and ditch ur asus maximus formula?
ShawnTRD
12-19-2007, 07:17 AM
JUst wondering guys, i was looking at buying a Asus maximus formula and are any of you guys gonna be upgrading to X48 and ditch ur asus maximus formula?
X48 maybe be worth waiting for, but I don't think it's worth ditching this $250 MB. Plus isn't X48 going to be DDR3 only?
JUst wondering guys, i was looking at buying a Asus maximus formula and are any of you guys gonna be upgrading to X48 and ditch ur asus maximus formula?
definately not upgrading to x48
pazza316
12-19-2007, 08:47 AM
I will see how the FSB overclocking goes on X48 not that impressed with the attainable FSB's on this board yet but I believe improved bios revisions should sort that out. Which ever clocks better I will end up with.
iadstudio
12-19-2007, 08:47 AM
Hi, not really sure what you mean by inaccurate temps. If you are using probe, or the cpu reading in everest, then your temp reading will alway be inaccurate. You should use either coretemps, or the ones marked core#1, and so on, in everest. All this stuff about the bios reading the temps inaccurate is tosh, it's always been that way as it uses the external diode to take its reading from..
Chris
Don't know what ur talking about, but the temps were inacurate. Dunno why, but I was getting 43c in bios and everest and TAT. Stuck there and it didn't move during idle no matter what voltage the cpu was at, 1.3 or 1.7. I know the shortcomings of cpu temp reading and trust me something was causing inacurate readings. I'm on bios 0907 now and the temps seem right, but the board I RMA'd was WAY off with 0903.
iadstudio
12-19-2007, 08:48 AM
Well, I like to check the temp once in a while while poking around in the BIOS. My current reading w/ a 6850 and 907 is 4C. Would be nice tho. :p:
sounds right to me. :rolleyes:
Marvin54
12-19-2007, 09:31 AM
what is max OC for E6420 on air ?
jas420221
12-19-2007, 10:52 AM
what is max OC for E6420 on air ?There is no concrete answer for that. Every chip varies... :yepp:
cuke2u
12-19-2007, 11:24 AM
Don't know what ur talking about, but the temps were inacurate. Dunno why, but I was getting 43c in bios and everest and TAT. Stuck there and it didn't move during idle no matter what voltage the cpu was at, 1.3 or 1.7. I know the shortcomings of cpu temp reading and trust me something was causing inacurate readings. I'm on bios 0907 now and the temps seem right, but the board I RMA'd was WAY off with 0903.
Hi, then something must have been flakey with your motherboard, not heard of the 903 causing stuck temperatures. Good thing you rma'd then :yepp:
Chris
iadstudio
12-19-2007, 11:59 AM
Hi, then something must have been flakey with your motherboard, not heard of the 903 causing stuck temperatures. Good thing you rma'd then :yepp:
Chris
Must have been. It was screwy out of the box.
Grnfinger
12-19-2007, 12:49 PM
So is there an advantage to flash to 907?
seems to be mixed reviews on this one again, has anyone seen the data sheet on 907 yet?
There should be a section (or a poll) in the after where the BIOS's are posted for user feedback of which ones seem to be working or have PERCEIVED issues. After reading the thread, it sounds like everyone who has tried the 0903 and posted about it seems relatively happy. All of the other data is consolidated, sounds like a good add.
BTW, I have the board and all components except for a CPU which I'm waiting on someone to send me :mad: This will be temporary until the E8500's come out! I'm looking forward to tweaking this bad boy.
ChaosMinionX
12-19-2007, 07:37 PM
To further, does anyone have problems sometimes on reboot still getting the "DET DRAM" POST error, or sometimes after the post reset double boot, the board will reboot 1 more time and you hear like a cap discharging then you gotta dump value ram into a DIMM?
iadstudio
12-19-2007, 08:08 PM
Anybody care to help me out here? I think I have this thing pretty stable, but it seems that I get some lags/handups in UT3 after playing for a bit and superPi has some issues is I run calculations back to back too soon after on another. I've tried a few different setting and they all seem to give me the same result. Here's what I have now.
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 420
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 840
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : disabled
(voltage are actual)
CPU Voltage : 1.64
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.57
DRAM Voltage : 2.2
FSB Termination Voltage :1.55
South Bridge Voltage : 1.14
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : ddr2_ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : ddr2_ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : ddr2_ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : auto
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
Does anything jump out at you? Thank in advance.
Grendel66
12-19-2007, 09:11 PM
Well, I like to check the temp once in a while while poking around in the BIOS. My current reading w/ a 6850 and 907 is 4C. Would be nice tho. :p:
sounds right to me. :rolleyes:
Right, I should file a patent for the cooling below env. temp. w/ water. Turns out that the temp is about -15C off. Hm, where did I see that before..
ChaosMinionX
12-19-2007, 09:15 PM
Anybody care to help me out here? I think I have this thing pretty stable, but it seems that I get some lags/handups in UT3 after playing for a bit and superPi has some issues is I run calculations back to back too soon after on another. I've tried a few different setting and they all seem to give me the same result. Here's what I have now.
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 420
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 840
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : disabled
(voltage are actual)
CPU Voltage : 1.64
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.57
DRAM Voltage : 2.2
FSB Termination Voltage :1.55
South Bridge Voltage : 1.14
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : ddr2_ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : ddr2_ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : ddr2_ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : auto
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
Does anything jump out at you? Thank in advance.
Just set CPU PLL to 1.5-1.6v, also set CPU GLT Ref - .63x and NB ref .67x and try it then.
iTravis
12-19-2007, 11:21 PM
I'm at 3.0Ghz now. Checking core temps while running Prime95 give me 86-86-78-78 and Speed Fan gives me 75 for CPU and 63 for all 4 cores. Is that too hot for the Q6600 G0? I think it's suppose to run a lil bit cooler. I'm on the process of testing right now and I'll let it run straight for at least 3 hours b4 moving up further.
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