The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[kup]

And it's for that kinda reason that I'm on 0505 again and for the foreseeable future!

No divider problems, no profile problems, no voltage problems. Only problem is the CPU temp reading but I know it's off and I use CoreTemp/Everest anyway and they're always accurate!

Oh, and once in a blue moon it gets stuck on "DETDRAM" but I reboot maybe once a week, if that, so the chances of it happening are slim to none.

Lastly, my performance is higher with 0505 than with 0907... :D

[theonlybabyface]

Bios 1004 is a keeper for me. All of my benchmarks are a tad faster with the same settings as 907. :D

[xgman]

1004 loaded for me, but after reboot and having to clear cmos, I couldn't boot with 4 sticks. Had to take two out, up the vdimm and then put the 2nd pair back in and now it's fine.

[xgman]

Yes, do that :)

Just flashed bios and 2x2GB Redlines are running the 1000Mh now because of TRFC (set to 55), TRFC was the big problem of the board/ram.

I have mine set to 45 with 4x1gb ram. What does higher #'s do for this setting?

Also, does any one elses 3.3v rail read low on this board?

[DirtyShady]

uh, look 4 posts up from yours . . . . :yepp:


Yes but its is an official Bios from Asus ?

[Spyrus]

Interesting i give it a go with Wolfie and 2x2GB.

[cuke2u]

Hi, thanks guys for being bold enough to test out 1004, I might just give it a try tonight when I get in. Not expecting too much, as I'm running a Q6600 and the main improvement seems to be with the 8000's. Still worth giving it a go I guess...
Chris

[ChaosMinionX]

Flashed 1004...I go to set all my settings all but the FSB saves correctly, FSB defaults back to 266mhz.... back to 0907 till someone figures it out..

Any ideas in the meantime?

[DirtyShady]

I search 1004 with SLIC ? It's possible anyone post it ?

Thanks.

[Spyrus]

Still no go 1004 ChaosMinion? Have you a 45nm or 65nm CPU?

[iadstudio]

Flashed 1004...I go to set all my settings all but the FSB saves correctly, FSB defaults back to 266mhz.... back to 0907 till someone figures it out..

Any ideas in the meantime?

I had the same problem. You can not use any saved settings and have to set to default values and then set everything where you want it and save them over the existing Bios profiles. My settings would not boot until I did that. It made no sense to me, but it worked.

[Dostoyevsky77]

Has anyone tried using Enhanced C1E on this board?

Some people are reporting lower power (ie, cooler temperatures) on other boards, but others are saying it affects performance as well.

Thoughts, opinions?

[Spyrus]

If you could stable at 9x-6x@400 for example with the vcore to be between 1.0-your bios setting then it can work.

Example: 6x400@2.4@1.0V to 9x400@3.6
I do not quite remember what is the low vcore value. If that is enough for you fsb
then it works. Of course also mobo can handle low multi with divider etc.

[Durkadurka]

I'd like to test 1004 on my QX9650, but I want to know if I can go back to 0907 with EZ Flash if I install 1004?
What I thought was 100% stable is infact not. I can pass Prime95, OCCT with slider on RAM all day long, but I get errors from my nVidia drivers "Driver has stopped responding and has recovered". This is at 9.5x425
From what I have found on the net, this has to do with the RAM. So I have no idea why it would pass in OCCT ram-test, while failing at the shared memory thing with the nVidia drivers.
My 9.5x400 profile is rock solid, and there are no errors from the nVidia drivers.
I've tried different timings, voltages and everything else I can think of, but still the drivers complain.
So maybe 1004 will work better.

[Yeddy]

[QUOTE=ericab;2819411]flashed the 1004 bios an hour ago, and now am back to 907.

1004 didnt work at all for me.
after the successful flash, i rebooted, and reloaded my saved profile. all the options were skewed; so i went through every menu, and set it back to where they should be. saved it, rebooted, and everytime, no matter what, the lcd poster said, CMOS error. went back into bios finally, and loaded setup defaults, rebooted, and still cmos error. i could tell the bios had updated properly, because i had the extra tRFC options........

.......bottom line: 1004 doesnt work for me.

QUOTE]

I had the same outcome, when I went back to 907, the bios would keep reseting itself, it wouldn't keep the saved settings. took about 20 trys, finaly working again. I think this is the last time I try an unofficial bios!

[KALISPIMENTA]

Worked for me slightly faster reboots,same settings has 907,np for now,ran for stability and FOR ME it's more stable then 907.

[The Stilt]

Most of the people who dwell at Xtremesystems probably have already noticed that Asus Maximus Formula has a bit of family looks with the brand new Rampage Formula.

Actually they seem to be exactly the same board with few very minor differences.

Thats why I wanted to try what happens when Maximus Formula is modified to Rampage Formula ;)

Let´s just say that I modified certain things in Rampage bios to make it work on Maximus. Thanks to the bug I found in Asus EZ-Flash ;)

http://www.elektroni.fi/Stilt/Asus_Rampage/Rampage_CPU-Z.png

http://www.elektroni.fi/Stilt/Asus_Rampage/Rampage_ECMB.png

CPU-Z Validation (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=325460)

First of all I have to explain few things.

This modification will not have any effect to the functionality of your motherboard.

There are few things related to this modification and most of them can be considered good.

Good things

Many new memory related timings:

DRAM CMD Skew on Channel A
DRAM CMD Skew on Channel B
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B

Write to Precharge Delay (tWTPD)
Read to Precharge Delay (tRTPD)
Precharge to Precharge Delay (tPTPD)
All Precharge to Activate Delay (tAPTAD)
All Precharge to Refresh Delay (tAPTRD)

More precise performance level adjust:
Common performance level
Pull-In of CHA PH1
Pull-In of CHA PH2
Pull-In of CHB PH1
Pull-In of CHB PH2

Not so good things

With my current knowledge and tools this mod cannot be reverted without replacing the soldered bios chip or programming the chip thru SPI interface with a programmer.

The 3 year warranty will be void.

Asus Rampage Formula bios versions are still in beta stage.
If you find some problems in them you need to wait for a new release.

How to do it then?

For starters you should get a usb memorystick or a cardreader with a memorycard. All of the data on the stick / card will be destroyed, so backup the data first if necessary.

This mod requires accessing the bios chip several times so make sure that your computer is running with settings you have found to be stable.

Plug in the memorystick / card and download following files:

Bootable USB Stick Creator (http://www.elektroni.fi/Stilt/Asus_Rampage/HPUSBFW.zip)

Boot Files (http://www.elektroni.fi/Stilt/Asus_Rampage/USB-Boot.zip)

Extract both of the archives to desired location.
Open HPUSBFW folder and start the program.

http://www.elektroni.fi/Stilt/Asus_Rampage/Guide_HPUSBFT.png

Select the correct USB device from the drop-down menu, set filesystem to FAT32 and tick Create a DOS startup disk.

Then browse for the extracted boot files.
Press Start.

After few seconds your media is formatted and bootable.

Then download following files:

Mod files (http://www.elektroni.fi/Stilt/Asus_Rampage/Cripple.zip)

AFUDOS 2.36 (http://http://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/flash/AFUDOS236.zip)

Extract the archives to desired location and copy all of the files (6pcs) to the root of your usb stick / card.

Keep the stick plugged in and restart.
Enter bios set your usb stick / card as the primary booting device.

When DOS has loaded and you see C:\ type in AFU236U /iLOADER.rom and press enter.
Once programming has finished reboot.

Turn the system on again and enter EZ-Flash menu in bios (you will see the Rampage post screen already).
Select RAMPAGE.ROM and flash it in.
When the programming has finished, power off and clear cmos.

Turn the system on and enter bios.
Set your usb stick / card as the primary booting device.

Save the settings and restart.
When DOS has loaded and you see C:\ type in WR1.bat and press enter.
A screen will splash and then it will return to C:\ again.

Type in WR2.bat this time and press enter.

Reset boot priority to default.

Enjoy your Rampage Formula :D

btw. In case something goes wrong and your board is killed in action, I should not be held as responsible.

[eva2000]

wow.. great stuff mate

shame about it being a one way mod :)

[ReverendMaynard]

Dude, that is awesome. I'd love to see some before and after overclocks/benches to see if there are any real benefits to doing this.

[ShArKo]

awesome dude......great job. You got a better performance with this bios mod??? You got more overclock???

[GAR]

you pci-e is running at 1x

[The Stilt]

you pci-e is running at 1x

Because of pci display adapter ;)

[GAR]

Because of pci display adapter ;)

ahhhh i see

[Leeghoofd]

I'll flash tonite then... and report if it works with QX9650...fingers crossed...

It's a known fact that if you update the bios, saved profiles don't work properly anymore... you have to start from scratch...

[kup]

Is not possible to perform the same modifications to a Maximus bios so it can be reversed?

I'm tempted to try it but I've got a good stable overclock and board right now... Might have to find another Maximus somewhere... :D

[iadstudio]

I had the same outcome, when I went back to 907, the bios would keep reseting itself, it wouldn't keep the saved settings. took about 20 trys, finaly working again. I think this is the last time I try an unofficial bios!

did you try:

set to default values and then set everything where you want it and save them over the existing Bios profiles.

[eSp!s0]

I have mine set to 45 with 4x1gb ram. What does higher #'s do for this setting?

Also, does any one elses 3.3v rail read low on this board?

Most 2x2GB Kits need 52TRFC or higher to run stable.

[xgman]

You can't load prior saved profiles with new bioses and expect no problems. You need to clear cmos and start over. Eveything in 1004 seems to be working fine for me.

[eSp!s0]

I never would load saved settings from older bios guys, that`s not good I think!

[Mic]

Interesting news, keep us updated :)

[Spyrus]

If only it can play tRD=6 (performance level) then it is worth.
After flashing to rampage the next available rampage bios will be fit
in the usual way or do we have to do all that things again?

[The Stilt]

If only it can play tRD=6 (performance level) then it is worth.
After flashing to rampage the next available rampage bios will be fit
in the usual way or do we have to do all that things again?

Your board will be Rampage Formula, so yes.

[Spyrus]

Ok i got it but want it to make sure.
If ASUS stops to support formula then this is the way to go...
Subscribed...

[dj.oxa]

thatz awesome
will try this soon :)

[kup]

Stilt, is there any kinda of performance increase over the Maximus bios? Overclocking improvements?

[Spyrus]

All these hidden bios options...
and i thought that they were only related to different chipset...
so we do not have 2x2 more phases options and the tRD=6 >400 fsb is still a mystery with 2 phases...
maybe only X48/P35 can do it...

[eva2000]

phases and tRD/PL is in DFI X38 so i think X38 can do it too.. just Asus didn't open it up in bios until now

[Spyrus]

tRD is also in formula but if i try at 450 fsb for 6 then no go.
Maybe the two phases can help as seen here http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=3

[Pete]

Will give this a go and try a range of 45 and 65nm cpu's

[cuke2u]

Flashed 1004...I go to set all my settings all but the FSB saves correctly, FSB defaults back to 266mhz.... back to 0907 till someone figures it out..

Any ideas in the meantime?

Hi, did the same for me as well :-(
Chris

[cuke2u]

Hi, Houston we have a problem, flashing back to 0907 didn't solve the FSB issues, whatever I put in gets put back to 266 whatever I do and however many times I do it :down:
Chris

[jakku]

So I have my E8400, which one better use ? 0907 or 1004 ?
P.S Maximus Formula non SE rev. 103.

[vikings]

This my system:
Maximus formula bios 907
E6750
Corsair twin2x1024-6400C4
Zotac 8800GT
HD westerndigital 500GB SATA2 16 MB buffer
Nec DVDRW 3520A Pata
Tagan 480WU01
XPSP2

My problem is that memtest86 v2.01 and 2.0 found errors always in the same place.
First I tried this test in default setting. After I changed parameters like voltage ,timing but
everything was useless. Even change slot was useless. So I went to corsair forum and.....
http://www.asktheramguy.com/v3/showthread.php?t=66826

found I wasn't alone has this problem.
But Xp works fine even others benchmarks like orthos (12 hours blend stress cpu&ram) didn't find any errors.
Anyone can help please?

[eSp!s0]

Like said many times in the thread you linked, it seems that this ram/mobo kombo is incompatible!? Or do you have newer information?

[Leeghoofd]

My problem is that memtest86 v2.01 and 2.0 found errors always in the same place.
First I tried this test in default setting. After I changed parameters like voltage ,timing but everything was useless. Even change slot was useless. So I went to corsair forum and.....
But Xp works fine even others benchmarks like orthos (12 hours blend stress cpu&ram) didn't find any errors.
Anyone can help please?

Did you try latest OCCT build and put the slider towards the ram ? ... and really if the rig is stable during gaming and all the stuff you want it to do... I wouldn't mind too much about a test that doesn't work out... I have had the inverse... tested for 12 hours Prime no issues, then did some SuperPi runs, no issues, then I rebooted the rig and openened messenger to talk to my girlie and it BSOD on me lol...:rofl: and not all software is well coded either...

I hate to say it but this is the same ram (6400C4) that the Striker Extreme had sooo many issues with... Asus bios that is not well coded or SPD wrongly interpreted ? something is wrong for sure... and still RAM guy tells peeps to run 800mhz rated ram at 667 speeds with 4 dimms.. that could be a workaround yeah to gain stability....

What are ya Vcore/NB/RAM/FSB term voltages set to ? doing any OC at the moment ?

[vikings]

I found another problem I have difficult to install programs. Or program I have already installed doesn't work, I have to remove but after I can't install again!!!!!!

And here someone else had my same problem fixed change memory!:mad:

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20080213210102890&board_id=1&model=Maximus+Formula&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

[xgman]

Hi, Houston we have a problem, flashing back to 0907 didn't solve the FSB issues, whatever I put in gets put back to 266 whatever I do and however many times I do it :down:
Chris

Actually mine seems to, from a cold boot at least, go to the F1 thing with some message about clock core and fsb settings not correctly set, and then if I go into the bios and see strap still set to 400 and fsb 437 and hit F10, then it is then fine, even after a reboot. Maybe this has to do with the same issue you are having? I wish they would get this right. At bios 1xxx you would think that obvious bugs like this would be a thing of the past.

[ChaosMinionX]

1004 works!

Was a bad flash apparently....


went back to defaults, loaded 0907 then I reflashed to 1004, now it works perfectly :)

[Nhawk]

S3 suspend to RAM finally works again!!!
e6600 worked, but after switching to e8400, I couldn't come out of S3 suspend any more and had to start using hibernate (windows XP SP3).
Updated BiOS to 1004 and tested again and it's working fine once again.

[ChaosMinionX]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/ChaosMinionX/Capture-15.jpg

Bios 1004

Corsair Dominator 8500C5D 8GB total 5-5-5-15-5-55-5-5.....

Fine tuning settings more, but 1004 allows 5:6 flawlessly from what I can tell.

EDIT:

The new 8500 4GB kits from Corsair rock :), they do 2.0v 1081 5-5-5-15-4-50-4-4 on X38, with AI Clock Twist - Strong, Transaction Booster - Disabled (1) on Bios 1004. I would say thats awesome :)


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/ChaosMinionX/Capture-16.jpg

[ericab]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/ChaosMinionX/Capture-15.jpg

Bios 1004

Corsair Dominator 8500C5D 8GB total 5-5-5-15-5-55-5-5.....

Fine tuning settings more, but 1004 allows 5:6 flawlessly from what I can tell.

EDIT:

The new 8500 4GB kits from Corsair rock :), they do 2.0v 1081 5-5-5-15-4-50-4-4 on X38, with AI Clock Twist - Strong, Transaction Booster - Disabled (1) on Bios 1004. I would say thats awesome :)


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/ChaosMinionX/Capture-16.jpg




wish i had your experience;

re-flashed again, from 907 to 1004, and still a no go. cmos error, with settings manually entered. :shrug:

[ante_ante]

Can i use asusupdate in Vista x64 ? And 1004 works for SE versions right ??

[peebi]

Can P5E do it

[cuke2u]

Can i use asusupdate in Vista x64 ? And 1004 works for SE versions right ??

Hi, no use the tool that's built into the bios, SE - yes...
Chris

[zanzabar]

so why cant it work the other way if u can flash to a rampage then why not back to a maximus since it would just need to rereplace the code

[BenchZowner]

tRD is also in formula but if i try at 450 fsb for 6 then no go.
Maybe the two phases can help as seen here http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=3

You need higher chipset voltage to lower the performance level.

[ante_ante]

Already flashed to 1004 now with asusupdate and it works fine. Now the ½ multi showing to :) Need to buy an USB-memory for EZ-flash later

[mrlobber]

Nice one :D

However, too bad all those X38 boards usually are not so good or suck for high fsb :down: So the only benefit I see from doing this would be to get straight Performance Level control in bios (without all the mess trying to figure out the default PL value for certain strap/fsb combinations offset by Transaction Booster) as well as additional memory tweaking options, which itself are very nice indeed :)

[jonny_ftm]

Would be really interesting to check maximum stable FSB on a quadcore with this bios. It will show if it's the maximus bios that s**ks or it is the PCB design

[Darkstormz]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/ChaosMinionX/Capture-15.jpg

Bios 1004

Corsair Dominator 8500C5D 8GB total 5-5-5-15-5-55-5-5.....

Fine tuning settings more, but 1004 allows 5:6 flawlessly from what I can tell.

EDIT:

The new 8500 4GB kits from Corsair rock :), they do 2.0v 1081 5-5-5-15-4-50-4-4 on X38, with AI Clock Twist - Strong, Transaction Booster - Disabled (1) on Bios 1004. I would say thats awesome :)


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/ChaosMinionX/Capture-16.jpg

I think you could tighten your timings. I´m running my 8GB at 1100MHz CL 5-5-3-13-52-4-3 and tRRD = 1. With only 1.95v :)
Btw join in and post your results http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179555

[jonny_ftm]

Out of curiosity, what does that khan /sp "Rampage Formula" dos command do after the bios has been flashed and reflashed?

[Spyrus]

Apart from tRFC values what else has changed?

[Spyrus]

You need higher chipset voltage to lower the performance level.

So do i need 1.7V? Because lower do not help it cannot boot. :(

[Nunzi]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/ChaosMinionX/Capture-15.jpg

Bios 1004

Corsair Dominator 8500C5D 8GB total 5-5-5-15-5-55-5-5.....

Fine tuning settings more, but 1004 allows 5:6 flawlessly from what I can tell.

EDIT:

The new 8500 4GB kits from Corsair rock :), they do 2.0v 1081 5-5-5-15-4-50-4-4 on X38, with AI Clock Twist - Strong, Transaction Booster - Disabled (1) on Bios 1004. I would say thats awesome :)


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a168/ChaosMinionX/Capture-16.jpg

Thanks have the same setup as you flashed to new bios works great

[Leeghoofd]

Great find though as there's no way back tooooooo risky for me... moving on to X48 with DDR3 ...

[DirtyShady]

I search perso who add SLIC Table on this Bios 1004, anyone could help me please ?:)

[The Stilt]

Out of curiosity, what does that khan /sp "Rampage Formula" dos command do after the bios has been flashed and reflashed?

Writes DMI information which Asus does not allow to update normally ;)

[Spyrus]

I think that with same procedure you can flash back dmi/bios/etc to maximus formula again. Have you tried that?

[Spyrus]

What is that SLIC?

[kup]

What is that SLIC?

SLIC is part of the OEM activation of Vista. Inserting the SLIC information tricks Vista into believing the board/system is an OEM and lets you activate it without buying it.

[BenchZowner]

So do i need 1.7V? Because lower do not help it cannot boot. :(

Moving from 1.7Vnb to 1.825Vnb on the Gigabyte X48T-DQ6 ( "X48" chipset ) allowed me to run SuperPi 32M at PL6 when with 1.7Vnb best I could do was 8.

The same thing ( more NB voltage helps with PL ) applies to X38/P35/P45.

As long as you can keep the chipset cool, 1.8V-1.85V will be fine.

[ante_ante]

Anyone have tried the rampage mod ?

[DirtyShady]

SLIC is part of the OEM activation of Vista. Inserting the SLIC information tricks Vista into believing the board/system is an OEM and lets you activate it without buying it.

Yes, could you make it for me ?

[427cobra]

been lurking here for a while, picked up some great advice. just changed from q6600 to qx9650, and having real trouble clocking it.

was on bios 901 and could clock the q6600 to 4.2 no trouble at all ran all day at 3.9. now the qx9650, i can only get it to just over 4.0 any more and i get an overclocking fail wont even boot to windows.

tried bios 903 same thing, and all diff multiplers and setting i could think of, do i have the only low clocking chip around:(

any idea which is the best bios for this chip or any tips to get the best out of it?

thank you.

[kup]

I've been thinking, surely this same method can be used to turn a P5E into a Rampage too? Or at worst, a Maximus?

[Grnfinger]

SP1 for Vista is going to kill any emulation activation. You will need a REAL oem copy


Has ne 1 had the balls to try flashing to Rampage bios yet?

[doctorwizz]

SP1 for Vista is going to kill any emulation activation. You will need a REAL oem copy

Not true. SP 1 only detects Timerstop, and Paradox.

[vikings]

today I have tried another stick of memory ,value product (trascend), and lcd poster stop in det ram: Now I begin to belive that isn't memory problem but main problem, because 3 sticks failed is hard! I would be unlucky!


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Motherboard: ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA bios 907
Processor: INTEL E6750
Memory: CORSAIR (2x1GB) PC6400CL4 twin2x
Video Card # 1: Zotac 8800gt
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[Grnfinger]

the official release of sp 1 for vista will stop timestop and bios emulation activations of pirated copies. the updates that do this will only appear in the sp 1 from windows update or on the retail disc not on the RTM.

[Underwater Mike]

the official release of sp 1 for vista will stop timestop and bios emulation activations of pirated copies. the updates that do this will only appear in the sp 1 from windows update or on the retail disc not on the RTM.

If it only affects pirated copies, what's the issue?

[ZenEffect]

SP1 for Vista is going to kill any emulation activation. You will need a REAL oem copy


Has ne 1 had the balls to try flashing to Rampage bios yet?

this has been asked about 10x now... and still it seems we are all still ball-less :(

[ZenEffect]

SP1 for Vista is going to kill any emulation activation. You will need a REAL oem copy


Has ne 1 had the balls to try flashing to Rampage bios yet?

this has been asked about 10x now... and still it seems we are all still ball-less :(

perhaps in a week i will pick up another maximus from frys and experiment with the rampage bios on it. as it IS a local store and has a pretty good return policy. if rampage bios results in a dead board i will just return it. if it results as a working board... i will just return it anyways :p:
no harm done, no money lost.

the real question is, what do i manipulate in bios to up the write speeds for ram?

[doctorwizz]

Using SLIC BIOS is NOT emulation. Paradox uses BIOS emulation. KB940510 is the Windows update that detects BIOS emulation and Timerstop.

[WFO]

this has been asked about 10x now... and still it seems we are all still ball-less :(

Actually if you have followed both Maximus threads, several tried but failed in their attempts to flash the to the Rampage bios. One person found a way and started a how to thread on it. :)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179580

[kup]

Actually if you have followed both Maximus threads, several tried but failed in their attempts to flash the to the Rampage bios. One person found a way and started a how to thread on it. :)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179580

I'm pretty sure Zen meant that no one has had the balls to use the discovered method yet? aside from the guy who found it?

[BenchZowner]

I've been thinking, surely this same method can be used to turn a P5E into a Rampage too? Or at worst, a Maximus?

P5E Deluxe to Maximus Formula, P5E3 Deluxe to Maximus Extreme ( probably ) [ somebody has to test it though :p: ]

[Grnfinger]

I'm really tempted to try this Rampage bios, would like someone else to take the plunge b4 I do.
If it wasnt for 1004 being so nice with my 8400 I would do it right now but my setup is running %100 atm and I dont want to screw it up.

[kup]

I'm really tempted to try this Rampage bios, would like someone else to take the plunge b4 I do.
If it wasnt for 1004 being so nice with my 8400 I would do it right now but my setup is running %100 atm and I dont want to screw it up.

Exactly the same reason I won't try it right now, I'm not fussed about killing the board because I've got my Blitz here, but I don't really wanna trade off a mature bios for one still in it's youth?!

I've been trying to think of other ways to flash it to the Rampage bios, anyway :D Has anyone even tried using Crashfree to flash it? Because we know that has no restraints when it comes to bios flashing as long as the file name is correct?

[s0lid]

Man, nice mod stilt m8!
Perhaps this works too on intels x38 reference board, Bonetrail :D
When they release x48 bios files. Just hope than it has more settings than x38s newest release.

[tiesum]

Thanks guys! got it stable now.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w24/tiesum/CPU-Z-1.jpg

[TEDY]

what do you gain by doing this?

[kup]

Better bios options and hopefully better overclocking because of those new options?

[DeDaL]

Cant flash LOADER.ROM

http://keep4u.ru/imgs/s/080308/db/db356b6c3f3bd0df55.jpg (http://keep4u.ru/full/080308/db356b6c3f3bd0df55/jpg)

[Grnfinger]

hmmmm

[Aivas47a]

Stilt, does the Rampage bios have finer GTL reference voltage adjustment than the Maximus? I think I saw a piece on anandtech about that. If so, that should help with higher stable quadcore overclocks and would make me very interested in trying the mod.

[loc.o]

Cant flash LOADER.ROM

http://keep4u.ru/imgs/s/080308/db/db356b6c3f3bd0df55.jpg (http://keep4u.ru/full/080308/db356b6c3f3bd0df55/jpg)

Keep getting the same here Dedal. Stilt is there some way to force EZ flash to flash it anyways? Could this be board rev or ? Thanks !

[icecpu]

Thanks guys! got it stable now.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w24/tiesum/CPU-Z-1.jpg


Would you mind put up your bios setting ?? thanks

[.OCX]

Unbelievable lol. Definitely subscribing to this thread. Just need some significant results now to justify the risks involved.

[0ut0fstep]

Stilt what bios version were you running when you did the mod ?

[jabski]

any idea if this would work for maximus Extreme ?

[Deus Excalibur]

Hi everyone, I haven't posted on these boards in quite awhile but now I am overclocking in full swing again

I took my Q6600 G0 from my older P5K-E board and placed it in the new Maximus Formula non-SE I recently purchased. This chip runs 24hrs P95 stable at 3200mhz 1.25v on air (TRUE) with the P5K board. The memory I use tested fine as well. (8x400)

My issue is that on the Maximus I get BSODs during P95. My temps are well within reason, 55C load on the hottest core. The NB runs about 45-47C load.

I lowered the speed to 3000 mhz (9x333) and I still BSOD. This CPU can go up to 3600mhz and run Prime... yet at any speed I eventually encounter a BSOD. The BSOD doesn't specify whether its a driver issue or not.

I'm about to test it at stock but I was wondering if any of you have some good insight at what may be the issue here. I know it is absolutely contained to the motherboard.

[ZenEffect]

Actually if you have followed both Maximus threads, several tried but failed in their attempts to flash the to the Rampage bios. One person found a way and started a how to thread on it. :)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179580

precisely. thank you.


btw that guy who got it to work must either be

a.) rich
b.) nuts
c.) this guy ----->http://insertcoin.hautetfort.com/images/medium_Duke_Nukem_004.jpg

:p:

[Newms118]

heres a question for you guys in the know:

My power went out when my computer was still on. after power came back on i looked at the lcd screen and it said CPU INIT. I turned the computer on and it turned on for a second, then turned back off, then turned back on and booted up fine. i checked my specs and the FSB speed and CPU speed was all the same. anyone know what the computer did? some type of diagnostic or reset after not being properly shut off? thanks

[Newms118]

i have another question actually, since you guys have the asus maximus formula, i assume some of you are using the supreme FXII. Im using it and i notice the volume in vista home premium is very low, regardless of turning every single audio slider in vista or the soundmax blackhawk programs. also, i cant change the setting that says "jazz session" on the program. weird ass program, never had this type of problem before, i mean i have turn the volume up a rediculous amount to get good sound. wtf gentlemen, WTF
thanks

[Kingslayer]

I was just wondering what the vdrop mod is for, what does it help and why would anybody do it. which advantages you get from that.

[doctorwizz]

i have another question actually, since you guys have the asus maximus formula, i assume some of you are using the supreme FXII. Im using it and i notice the volume in vista home premium is very low, regardless of turning every single audio slider in vista or the soundmax blackhawk programs. also, i cant change the setting that says "jazz session" on the program. weird ass program, never had this type of problem before, i mean i have turn the volume up a rediculous amount to get good sound. wtf gentlemen, WTF
thanks

Mine was low too. Go to control panel, sounds, right click on speakers, properties, system effects tab. check "Enable Sonic Focus Processing". Ajust away :D. They you can adjust from that Sound Max Black Hawk.

I cant change Jazz Session either. Its bugged.

Also, sometimes when I change settings in the BIOS and save, the computer shuts off for a few seconds, and turns on by it self. I'm not sure if it is supposed to do that or what. Never seen a computer do that? Anyone shed light on this please? Current BIOS: 1003

[WFO]

precisely. thank you.


btw that guy who got it to work must either be

a.) rich
b.) nuts
c.) this guy ----->http://insertcoin.hautetfort.com/images/medium_Duke_Nukem_004.jpg

:p:

LOL...I think the answer is all of the above. I've had great luck with bios 907 and my current hardware. Unless it can be proven the effort produces a 300mhz OC advantage, I won't be going there. ;)

[.OCX]

heres a question for you guys in the know:

My power went out when my computer was still on. after power came back on i looked at the lcd screen and it said CPU INIT. I turned the computer on and it turned on for a second, then turned back off, then turned back on and booted up fine. i checked my specs and the FSB speed and CPU speed was all the same. anyone know what the computer did?

Cold Boot Issue. I have the same thing happen from time to time when Cold Booting. Blame it on the Asus Anomalies.

[doctorwizz]

Cold Boot Issue. I have the same thing happen from time to time when Cold Booting. Blame it on the Asus Anomalies.


I haven't seen that from cold boot yet. It happens to me sometimes when exit and saving from bios. Is that a normal amomally? Or a bad flash? I dont remember the 907 doing that.

[Leeghoofd]

It's normal mate, unplug ya power cord... put it back in and press power button , it iwll fire up shut down and then boot fine... all pretty normal... for Asus boards ... and my foxconn does the same... I think it's reuired by the Intel Chipset to set straps and co...

[Nuckin_Futs]

You can't load prior saved profiles with new bioses and expect no problems. You need to clear cmos and start over. Eveything in 1004 seems to be working fine for me.

As I clearly stated, " I save and attempted to reload saved CMOS setting of a given BIOS version (ie: v0802) for BIOS v0802 when returning to it after a flash back from a higher version (ie: v0907). It is now that the BIOS saved that worked at say 9am did not work again at 9:15AM same day after coming back to v0802.

I save them for the sake of wanting to have 2 easy to select profiles and not have to thumb through the mmenues to have to click back n forth. I sort of figured this why we asked for them 3 yrs ago and they finally answered since first ROG series like my ASUS CROSSHAIR.

I never claimed to try to use one profile save from one version to another of different version. Somebody claimed they did but I never found it to work but I always saved my previous for the purpose of coming back if I didnt like it like the all to bad v0907. But then it corrupted the rest of the BIOS and RAM anywayz, So oh well, had to RMA it. Still waiting.

Other then this, a might be isolated issue, I really enjoy overclocking on this mobo. Not sure what all the hipe on sub RAM timings is and what real world areas are.

[Nuckin_Futs]

S3 suspend to RAM finally works again!!!
e6600 worked, but after switching to e8400, I couldn't come out of S3 suspend any more and had to start using hibernate (windows XP SP3).
Updated BiOS to 1004 and tested again and it's working fine once again.
What BIOS were you on for each CPU (the same for both?)? I found S3 did not work at even stock and auto when on v0907. Iffy on the other beta's but very stable on v0602, even on a mild divider.

Already flashed to 1004 now with asusupdate and it works fine. Now the ½ multi showing to :) Need to buy an USB-memory for EZ-flash later
You can flash from any type of media drive BIOS can detect as long as it is not partitioned and is formated FAT32 and if ROM is in a folder, it must be in all cap's no spaces, just like DOS basically. I flash from my PSP, iPod and Nicon Camera and or Epson Printer w/ card reader. Just make sure USB mode is set to auto for floppy emulation.

could clock the q6600 to 4.2 no trouble at all ran all day at 3.9. now the qx9650, i can only get it to just over 4.0 any more and i get an overclocking fail wont even boot to windows.
Can you PM me with an example of your BIOS voltages and other setting to compare. I am playing with my old Q6600 9GO) on a P5K Deluxe and might try it on here if it looks good. What is the max FSB you can get on any multi v/s highest clock?

today I have tried another stick of memory ,value product (trascend), and lcd poster stop in det ram: Now I begin to belive that isn't memory problem but main problem, because 3 sticks failed is hard! I would be unlucky!
If it's what happen to me after a v0907 BIOS corruption, I had to always go into F1 to fix CPU to manual and set RAM to a default spd (ie: 800) and timings to manual and default (ie: 5-5-5-15). Left everything else as is in auto and saved, exited and restarted and it was OK. TRhe I was able to tweak the rest and go on.

It's worth a try anywayz!

heres a question for you guys in the know:

My power went out when my computer was still on. after power came back on i looked at the lcd screen and it said CPU INIT. I turned the computer on and it turned on for a second, then turned back off, then turned back on and booted up fine. i checked my specs and the FSB speed and CPU speed was all the same. anyone know what the computer did? some type of diagnostic or reset after not being properly shut off? thanks
Perfectly normal for ASUS and others. It mostly has to do with the onboard circut protection kicking in to set up you PSU to match voltag lines befor actually starting up. Since the PC was shut down so suddently it is not in S (suspend mode anymore and cant remember the power state. It is basically a self check for mobo and PSU, and yes, partly to do with recent ASUS since the P5AD2 when FSB climbed over a certain level.

[HempHog]

Hi everyone, I haven't posted on these boards in quite awhile but now I am overclocking in full swing again

I took my Q6600 G0 from my older P5K-E board and placed it in the new Maximus Formula non-SE I recently purchased. This chip runs 24hrs P95 stable at 3200mhz 1.25v on air (TRUE) with the P5K board. The memory I use tested fine as well. (8x400)

My issue is that on the Maximus I get BSODs during P95. My temps are well within reason, 55C load on the hottest core. The NB runs about 45-47C load.

I lowered the speed to 3000 mhz (9x333) and I still BSOD. This CPU can go up to 3600mhz and run Prime... yet at any speed I eventually encounter a BSOD. The BSOD doesn't specify whether its a driver issue or not.

I'm about to test it at stock but I was wondering if any of you have some good insight at what may be the issue here. I know it is absolutely contained to the motherboard.


Check you PCI-E freq. I bet its 125 when you boot in to windows, having the same issue as you. Same vid card.

[Kingslayer]

so isnt there anybody who can tell me which advantage u get from the vdrop mod. Why would anybody use that mod???

[ante_ante]

What program should i use for clocking and memsettings in windows ??

[tiesum]

Would you mind put up your bios setting ?? thanks

Sure!

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 470
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1129
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency :5
RAS# to CAS# Delay :5
RAS# Precharge :5
RAS# ActivateTime :15
RAS# to RAS# Delay :AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time :AUTO
Write Recovery Time :AUTO
Read to Precharge Time :AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) :AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) :AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) :AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) :AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) :AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) :AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax Lvl: 1

CPU Voltage : 1.45625
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.14
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : FSBT Volt
SB LED Selection : SB 1.5 Volt
CPU LED Selection : PLL VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Good luck! Please let us know if this gives you a stable OC.

[NBK]

Does anyone know what the 1004 BIOS is supposed to fix and is it an official release?

Thanks
NBK

[TheScavenger]

Check you PCI-E freq. I bet its 125 when you boot in to windows, having the same issue as you. Same vid card.

How do you check your PCI-E frequency is windows?

Josh

[Grnfinger]

How do you check your PCI-E frequency is windows?

Josh

You check it in your bios "PCIE Frequency" 110/115 should be the highest.
After that you can get some issues, or atleast I found to have issues above 115.

[Renegade5399]

Same here. Over 115 I get RAID issues.

Anyone try 1004 yet?

[Grnfinger]

Same here. Over 115 I get RAID issues.

Anyone try 1004 yet?

I have tried 1004 and am very happy so far.

slight bandwidth increase, and very stable ( for me anyways). Going to push my cpu today and see if I can get a higher clock from 907.


I see still no successful flash to the Rampage bios yet.:shrug:

[kup]

Grn, how are the dividers on 1004? I'm almost tempted to move away from 0505 again if this new bios is any good for 65nm?

[Renegade5399]

Same question here. Good for 65nm? Also wondering about dividers. Also, where the hell are the BIOS files coming from? ASUS or someone modding the old 0907?

[bro20000]

Works fine for me using qx9650! Best bios yet!

[icecpu]

Sure!

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 470
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1129
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency :5
RAS# to CAS# Delay :5
RAS# Precharge :5
RAS# ActivateTime :15
RAS# to RAS# Delay :AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time :AUTO
Write Recovery Time :AUTO
Read to Precharge Time :AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) :AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) :AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) :AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) :AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) :AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) :AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax Lvl: 1

CPU Voltage : 1.45625
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.14
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : FSBT Volt
SB LED Selection : SB 1.5 Volt
CPU LED Selection : PLL VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Good luck! Please let us know if this gives you a stable OC.


With this setting it's prime stable, but sometime hang DET DRAM when restart

[doctorwizz]

Help, I am having bios issues when changing settings. When I change some settings in the bios and save and exit, the pc shuts off, then restarts by itself after a few seconds. Upon powering up, I get a constant beeping and message on monitor saying: you have not connected the power cable to your video card. Does this with one or two video cards installed. Hitting reset will give the same message. After switching off the power, I can restart again. But I get the overclocking failed message. Then press F1 and enter bios, select exit and discard changes, (my settings are still there), the pc boots and will always boot. And tested prime and occt stable. I'm only mildly oc'ing a G0 at 3.2. I don't know why I am getting the video power cable message. System is very stable. Power supply voltages are super stable. Runs very cool at these settings so heat is not an issue.

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 356
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-855
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency :5
RAS# to CAS# Delay :5
RAS# Precharge :5
RAS# ActivateTime :12
RAS# to RAS# Delay :AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time :AUTO
Write Recovery Time :AUTO
Read to Precharge Time :AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) :AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) :AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) :AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) :AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) :AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) :AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : AUTO
DRAM Voltage : 1.98 (2.06 in Windows)
FSB Termination Voltage :AUTO
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

NB LED Selection : FSBT Volt
SB LED Selection : SB 1.5 Volt
CPU LED Selection : PLL VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

[Grnfinger]

5:6
1:1
are working of course

4:5 I am about to try out.
Had my ram stable at 1247 for 27mins b4 it crapped out so I think with a little tweaking on the timming I get 1247MHz 100% stable.
I also think its the best bios so far, I dont get the random "det ram" hang and everything just feels more responsive. After the 1003 episode it is major improvement. Give Asus another 6 months and they should have it all sorted out:ROTF:

[kup]

I may give it a shot then. The only thing that bugs me with 0505 is the random "DETDRAM" hang...

Hmmm...how is it on voltages for you? On 0505 I need significantly less voltage for better performance and clocks than on 0907 for example?

[Leeghoofd]

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 356
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-855
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency :5
RAS# to CAS# Delay :5
RAS# Precharge :5
RAS# ActivateTime :12 -- 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay :AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time :AUTO -- 60
Write Recovery Time :AUTO
Read to Precharge Time :AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) :AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) :AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) :AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) :AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) :AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) :AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO -- Disable
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO --Disable
Relax level : 1
CPU Voltage : AUTO -- 1.35
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO -- 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : AUTO -- 1.45
DRAM Voltage : 1.98 (2.06 in Windows)
FSB Termination Voltage :AUTO
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

Flash to 1004 bios and set TRFC value to at least 52 or even better 60, you are overclocking ya rams, normally they can handle it but you might need to set this setting slightly higher... increases stability big time... also disable Static read control and disable transaction booster...
Set Vcore for the CPU to a slightly higher value then ya VID... eg Vid 1.25 set Vcore to 1.3 and verify real voltage given, do not set Auto for Vcore, same for NB voltage as the baords likes to overvolt almost everything besides FSB termination voltage which is undervolted

[Grnfinger]

I was able to drop NB from 1.49 to 1.47
CPU from 1.38 to 1.37
ram is unchanged :(
FSBT is in the process of trying to lower from 1.40 but I think its a no go.
anything lower and I get errors almost instantly.

[Leeghoofd]

I was able to drop NB from 1.49 to 1.47

Good stuff, I needed 1.59v NB for 1200mhz ram stability in benchsessions... go go Asus :up:

[Grnfinger]

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4400.png
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4400_new.png

priming now, 15 mins blend so far so good

[kup]

Flashed 1004. Dividers are still broken for me, having to use AUTO again. System does feel quite responsive, but not sure if that is a placebo effect quite yet?

I'll stick with it for now and if I don't like it I'll flash the Rampage bios instead! :D

[Renegade5399]

I will try 1004 here shortly. How do I flash to the Rampage BIOS? Do I have to use the windows flash utility?

[Grnfinger]

n00b question

trying to run ram at 1274 and getting rounding errors 20 to 25 mins in.
Currently 5-5-5-15 and trfc set to 40
would I try 5-5-5-18 and trfc to 45 or maybe 50? or will that have the reverse effect?

[Mic]

Renegade, see the other thread in this forum about how to flash to the rampage bios.
Wanted to try it myself, but can't find my darn usb stick.

[Renegade5399]

n00b question

trying to run ram at 1274 and getting rounding errors 20 to 25 mins in.
Currently 5-5-5-15 and trfc set to 40
would I try 5-5-5-18 and trfc to 45 or maybe 50? or will that have the reverse effect?

You've got the right idea.

[kup]

n00b question

trying to run ram at 1274 and getting rounding errors 20 to 25 mins in.
Currently 5-5-5-15 and trfc set to 40
would I try 5-5-5-18 and trfc to 45 or maybe 50? or will that have the reverse effect?

Do one change at a time, not both. That way you may get away with only changing one setting.

[doctorwizz]

Flash to 1004 bios and set TRFC value to at least 52 or even better 60, you are overclocking ya rams, normally they can handle it but you might need to set this setting slightly higher... increases stability big time... also disable Static read control and disable transaction booster...
Set Vcore for the CPU to a slightly higher value then ya VID... eg Vid 1.25 set Vcore to 1.3 and verify real voltage given, do not set Auto for Vcore, same for NB voltage as the baords likes to overvolt almost everything besides FSB termination voltage which is undervolted

Flashed to 1004 and followed your advice. I save and exit. The pc shut down and restarted. Got that power cable is not connected to your vid card message again. I pressed F1 to enter bios. Then exit and discard changes which leave the settings exactly as you suggested. I can reboot fine. Warm or cold.

Nothbridge temps are about 5c higher at these settings. 47 to 52 now. Can I lower the NB votage? Why am I getting the power cable message?

[Renegade5399]

The power cable message is generated by the MONITOR itself due to no video signal. Do you have the LCD Poster hooked up? I'll bet it's hanging at DET DRAM.

[doctorwizz]

The power cable message is generated by the MONITOR itself due to no video signal. Do you have the LCD Poster hooked up? I'll bet it's hanging at DET DRAM.

Poster says VGA BIOS.
Constant beeping when I get this.
Im pretty sure its generated by the video card, because there is a video signal.

[Renegade5399]

Yup, I had the same issue. Only way I got it to go away was to reset my CMOS. Then it posted fine.

[Leeghoofd]

Might be a bad contact with one of the powerconnectors of the cards... you can try with lower NB voltage... this setting seemed to work fab with my board... did you do a full reset to default when flashing the bios... also you can try to pop the Cmoss battery for a few minutes to make sure all is at default...

try with one vidcard ... same error... swap it for the other card... no error... maybe on eof the cards has issues and nothing to do with Bios settings...

[doctorwizz]

Yup, I had the same issue. Only way I got it to go away was to reset my CMOS. Then it posted fine.

You mean you had the power cable message?
I don't understand why I gett this message when making the smallest change.

[Renegade5399]

Yea, my message says "Check signal cable". It's generated by the monitor itself, not the PC. It's because my card wasn't firing up and it was hung on VGA BIOS on the LCD Poster. I would check the power connections to the card as suggested. If it still happens, do a full CMOS clear and start you OC over again. That's what I had to do and the issue never returned.

[doctorwizz]

Yea, my message says "Check signal cable". It's generated by the monitor itself, not the PC. It's because my card wasn't firing up and it was hung on VGA BIOS on the LCD Poster. I would check the power connections to the card as suggested. If it still happens, do a full CMOS clear and start you OC over again. That's what I had to do and the issue never returned.

I did a full cmos rest after flashing to 1004 by unplugging power and hitting the cmos reset swithch. Then loaded defaults. That is a full cmos clear?

[Renegade5399]

Correct. Perhaps you have a card with an issue? Are they modded at all?

[doctorwizz]

I just re-seated the power connections on both cards. And pushed the cards to make sure they were seated. Made a few changes and no error! The pc did power down and restart by itself. This is normal right?

[Renegade5399]

Yes, mine does the power off and boot back up routine as well. It doesn't lose any settings, it just power cycles and boots normally.

[Mic]

Also getting the Cant flash LOADER.ROM error with a brand new Maximus motherboard 802 bios.

[kup]

Also getting the Cant flash LOADER.ROM error with a brand new Maximus motherboard 802 bios.

I think the problem here is the bios we're all trying to flash from? We need The Stilt to come in and confirm a few things before anyone tries it.

Has anyone tried a Rampage bios using 'Crash Free' yet?

[Grnfinger]

It was my understanding that the needed bios was included with the cripple / mod files.
Or did I read the instructions wrong?

RAMPAGE-ASUS-Formula-0207.ROM thats the only bios asus has on there site, has ne 1 tried that yet?
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Rampage_Formula/

[Deus Excalibur]

You check it in your bios "PCIE Frequency" 110/115 should be the highest.
After that you can get some issues, or atleast I found to have issues above 115.

I don't see where to monitor the frequency in the BIOS, but in the settings I have mine placed at 105mhz.

[Renegade5399]

Then that is the speed. It doesn't vary from what you set it to.

[kup]

In the Cripple.zip we get the batch files, the rampage file and the loader file. We're supposed to flash the loader and then the rampage, but we can't flash the loader file to start with.

[Grnfinger]

ahh ic
I wonder what bios he was on b4 the Rampage conversion, maybe it needs to be the same?

[andre X_X]

can someone share Bios 1004??? the link in 1st post doesnt work for me :(

[kup]

can someone share Bios 1004??? the link in 1st post doesnt work for me :(

Still working here? http://rapidshare.com/files/97357451/MF1004.zip

[Deus Excalibur]

Then that is the speed. It doesn't vary from what you set it to.

Hmm then my BSODs are from something else. Works fine at stock speeds... I wonder if I just have a crappy board because the CPU and RAM work fine on other boards at those speeds.

I'm running out of ideas here :/

EDIT: It seems to fail after about 1 hour no matter the setting if I am OCed. I also cannot boot at 350-399 FSB. I'm wondering if my memory just doesn't get along with this mobo as most BSODs tend to be memory related. Then again when at stock speeds the memory still runs at 800mhz : / I'm stumped.

Anything faulty with my settings for the speed I'm trying to regain?

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto


DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto (Enable makes the system not boot)

CPU Voltage : 1.2625v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.33v
DRAM Voltage : 1.92v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44v
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[.OCX]

I did a full cmos rest after flashing to 1004 by unplugging power and hitting the cmos reset swithch. Then loaded defaults. That is a full cmos clear?

Sorta, for a Full CMOS Reset:

1. Pull 12v ATX Power cables from Mobo. 24 pin and 4/8 pin.
2. Clear CMOS Button: Hold for 10 secs
3. Remove Battery for 3 Hours. Has to be 3 hours on this board.

4. Put CMOS Battery Back.
5. Put Only 1 GPU in First PEG Slot closest to CPU. Leave 2nd Card out.
6. Plug all 12v ATX Power cables back to Mobo.

[doctorwizz]

Sorta, for a Full CMOS Reset:

1. Pull 12v ATX Power cables from Mobo. 24 pin and 4/8 pin.
2. Clear CMOS Button: Hold for 10 secs
3. Remove Battery for 3 Hours. Has to be 3 hours on this board.

4. Put CMOS Battery Back.
5. Put Only 1 GPU in First PEG Slot closest to CPU. Leave 2nd Card out.
6. Plug all 12v ATX Power cables back to Mobo.


Thanks for the info

[ante_ante]

What program are you guys using for clocking in windows? And does memset work on this board ??

[Renegade5399]

3. Remove Battery for 3 Hours. Has to be 3 hours on this board.


This is a wives tale. There is no way the board holds a charge for that long with everything disconnected. I have personally tested this with a meter on several caps on the board. Once you pull the battery, power cables, tap the power button, and hit the CMOS reset button, the charge is gone. There is no more voltage left on the board. There was a heated discussion about this over at BPC and to shut everyone up, I whipped out the meter. I even intentionally used settings that caused the board to not be able to recover and need a CMOS reset. Did everything but let it sit for 3 hours :rolleyes: and what do ya know...booted right back up fine.

On another note, 1004 while being better than 1003, is still trash. With 0907, I can use the 7x, 8x, and 9x multis. With 1003/1004, I can only use 7x and 9x. 8x is broke no matter what I do. The same dividers are still broken and the memory timings seem to be more finicky. Also settings from 0907 with the 9x multi are not stable under 1003/1004. I can't for the life of me find what it is they have changed, but 0907 is still the way to go for 65nm CPUs.

[Grnfinger]

I can't for the life of me find what it is they have changed, but 0907 is still the way to go for 65nm CPUs.

They basically changed trfc, but I find its very 45nm friendly. Sold my quad awhile ago and my ES Xeon just got shipped the day b4 this bios came out so I cannot say for 65nm. But if you have a wolfdale its a keeper imo

[icecpu]

This is my setting now, the problem is I can't use the divider to run memory speed higher, if memory speed higher than 1092 MHz gaming will crash with "Nvidia driver stopped responding message" , I don't know why ?? I don't know if this vcore is ok for 24/7 ??

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 470
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-940
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 10
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax level: 1

CPU Voltage : 1.4375
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.52
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[Leeghoofd]

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto


DRAM Static Read Control: Auto -- Disable
Ai Clock Twister : Strong -- AUTO
Transaction Booster : Auto -- Disable Relax level 1
CPU Voltage : 1.2625v -- 1.3125
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.33v -- 1.45
DRAM Voltage : 1.92v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44v --AUTO
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63x -- AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67x -- AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF -- AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage :AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Try the above settings plz... NB voltage is way too low for quad for sure

[Grnfinger]

This is my setting now, the problem is I can't use the divider to run memory speed higher, if memory speed higher than 1092 MHz gaming will crash with "Nvidia driver stopped responding message" , I don't know why ?? I don't know if this vcore is ok for 24/7 ??

Do you still get the error if you set timing to 5-5-5-15 and run above 1092MHz?

Intel states that the ACTUAL voltage for E8400 should not exceed 1.45, so I would think its safe for 24/7 use.

Try the above settings plz... NB voltage is way too low for quad for sure

He might want to increase his NB higher than that. 4GB taxes the NB more than 2GB so 1.45 might still be to low, I would recommend 1.49 and adjust from there.

[Leeghoofd]

This is my setting now, the problem is I can't use the divider to run memory speed higher, if memory speed higher than 1092 MHz gaming will crash with "Nvidia driver stopped responding message" , I don't know why ?? I don't know if this vcore is ok for 24/7 ??



Loosen the timings on ram instead of 4-4-4-12 use 5-5-5-15 to get above 1066Mhz and set Strap to 400FSB, don't get it, you guys try to force something which isn't logic at all... be happy it already ran at your current settings....

[vikings]

Did you try latest OCCT build and put the slider towards the ram ? ... and really if the rig is stable during gaming and all the stuff you want it to do... I wouldn't mind too much about a test that doesn't work out... I have had the inverse... tested for 12 hours Prime no issues, then did some SuperPi runs, no issues, then I rebooted the rig and openened messenger to talk to my girlie and it BSOD on me lol...:rofl: and not all software is well coded either...

I hate to say it but this is the same ram (6400C4) that the Striker Extreme had sooo many issues with... Asus bios that is not well coded or SPD wrongly interpreted ? something is wrong for sure... and still RAM guy tells peeps to run 800mhz rated ram at 667 speeds with 4 dimms.. that could be a workaround yeah to gain stability....

What are ya Vcore/NB/RAM/FSB term voltages set to ? doing any OC at the moment ?



OCCT is another benchmark that found error like memtest. Infact today I tested with OCCT ram, and after about 1 hour stopped. ( set 6 hours)

[.OCX]

This is a wives tale. There is no way the board holds a charge for that long with everything disconnected. I have personally tested this with a meter on several caps on the board. Once you pull the battery, power cables, tap the power button, and hit the CMOS reset button, the charge is gone. There is no more voltage left on the board. There was a heated discussion about this over at BPC and to shut everyone up, I whipped out the meter. I even intentionally used settings that caused the board to not be able to recover and need a CMOS reset. Did everything but let it sit for 3 hours :rolleyes: and what do ya know...booted right back up fine.

On another note, 1004 while being better than 1003, is still trash. With 0907, I can use the 7x, 8x, and 9x multis. With 1003/1004, I can only use 7x and 9x. 8x is broke no matter what I do. The same dividers are still broken and the memory timings seem to be more finicky. Also settings from 0907 with the 9x multi are not stable under 1003/1004. I can't for the life of me find what it is they have changed, but 0907 is still the way to go for 65nm CPUs.


Actually, this was the only way for me to get around DETDRAM with my HK's when that was the only ram I had on hand at the time to POST. I had to wait 3 hours between each CMOS Drain with Battery pulled. Even tried it at 2.5 hours and couldn't POST. Waited for full 3 hours and was able to POST.

Even seeing more and more manufacturers saying that the CMOS Reset buttons + Default values is not a proper reset when using new Memory. They [Geil, GSkill] are even suggesting pulling the CMOS battery for hours to reset the Bios completely.

[icecpu]

Yes, everything stable except when gaming
I did use 5-5-5-15 for 1092Mhz, no go
I use 4-4-4-10 at 940Mhz

[zlojack]

Actually, this was the only way for me to get around DETDRAM with my HK's when that was the only ram I had on hand at the time to POST. I had to wait 3 hours between each CMOS Drain with Battery pulled. Even tried it at 2.5 hours and couldn't POST. Waited for full 3 hours and was able to POST.

Even seeing more and more manufacturers saying that the CMOS Reset buttons + Default values is not a proper reset when using new Memory. They [Geil, GSkill] are even suggesting pulling the CMOS battery for hours to reset the Bios completely.
That's funny. I've swapped back and forth between 2 different types of memory today three times and it hasn't batted an eye.

[equetefue]

for some damn reason my G.Skill HZ's won't work. I have ti use a crappy DDR667 Kingston stick to boot the computer to the bios. From there i tried to play with some ram setting and upped' the voltage for Dram and the computer worked for a week. As soon as I powered it down for the first time...

The damn DET Ram came up again... what gives ??

[Nuckin_Futs]

First off, what is really the big issues with the ASUS final BIOS for the Penryns, the duals in particular? I realize everybody's hiped on RAM sub timings but is it really making a big difference over stability in real world apps or just for benching?

Works fine for me using qx9650! Best bios yet! So what really didnt work for this CPU in say v602 802? Also I was likely gonna' get a Q9450. I know too many people saying they cant get a lot of OC out of these QX9650 extremes. Is this judged on simply the highest clock on highest multi? Is anybody actually utilizing the low multi of these to see how much higher they can go with mobo FSB?

Renegade, see the other thread in this forum about how to flash to the rampage bios.
Wanted to try it myself, but can't find my darn usb stick.
See my previous post on haw to flash from other media sorces. It doesnt have to be flash stick or USB.

Single partitioned, FAT32, bootable medai sorce. If MAXIMUS can see it in POST, you can flash from it in EZ-Flash.

[Renegade5399]

Actually, this was the only way for me to get around DETDRAM with my HK's when that was the only ram I had on hand at the time to POST. I had to wait 3 hours between each CMOS Drain with Battery pulled. Even tried it at 2.5 hours and couldn't POST. Waited for full 3 hours and was able to POST.

Even seeing more and more manufacturers saying that the CMOS Reset buttons + Default values is not a proper reset when using new Memory. They [Geil, GSkill] are even suggesting pulling the CMOS battery for hours to reset the Bios completely.

When the board goes back to defaults after an OC failed, the DIMM voltage goes back to 1.8-1.9v. This will cause the DET DRAM hang on RAM that needs 2.0v or more to run. There are a few ways around this.

1. Use only one stick in the slot farthest from the CPU and try to boot.

2. Take all sticks out and power the unit on. You should get the no memory beeps. Power down via PSU switch and put one stick in. Try to boot then. It should come up.

3. Get a stick of cheap DDR2 667 or 800 Value RAM that only needs 1.8v. Put the stick in and power on. I can almost 100% guarantee it will boot. Then just go into the BIOS and tweak your settings, Save and Exit. Once the rig boots, re-enter the BIOS and kill the power via the PSU switch. Put your good RAM and and power back up. Voila! It will boot.

Now as far as the tech on the phone telling you that an "extended CMOS clear" is needed: They are doing this to get you off the phone and guarantee you won't call back for 3 hours. Think about it. "New Memory" is just like "Old Memory". It's a set of chips on a PCB. It has NOTHING to do with how long you need to clear your CMOS for.

[icecpu]

Sure!

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 470
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1129
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency :5
RAS# to CAS# Delay :5
RAS# Precharge :5
RAS# ActivateTime :15
RAS# to RAS# Delay :AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time :AUTO
Write Recovery Time :AUTO
Read to Precharge Time :AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) :AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) :AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) :AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) :AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) :AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) :AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax Lvl: 1

CPU Voltage : 1.45625
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.14
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : FSBT Volt
SB LED Selection : SB 1.5 Volt
CPU LED Selection : PLL VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Good luck! Please let us know if this gives you a stable OC.

Hi Tiesum
Did you try to play game with this setting and no error ?? Because I got "Nvidia Driver stopped responding" message when gaming with this setting

[zlojack]

Anyone using 8GB of the G.Skill 4GBPQ PC2-8000 with this board?

What subtimings are you using? Any overclock at all? Just got some today and I'm pretty pleased, but want to see what they can do...

[.OCX]

Now as far as the tech on the phone telling you that an "extended CMOS clear" is needed: They are doing this to get you off the phone and guarantee you won't call back for 3 hours. Think about it. "New Memory" is just like "Old Memory". It's a set of chips on a PCB. It has NOTHING to do with how long you need to clear your CMOS for.

Hmm, I don't recall making a phone call to any support company or even mentioning a "phone" at any point. In fact, the last thing I would recommend is calling a company for tech support on computer hardware.

Back to the original problem, the user was having issues with "VGA Bios" and tried the short CMOS reset and it didn't work. I simply suggested what has and continues to work for me. And given what remedies hes tried at this point, is a very good suggestion given the consequences.

:confused:

[Renegade5399]

Was going by this:


Even seeing more and more manufacturers saying that the CMOS Reset buttons + Default values is not a proper reset when using new Memory. They [Geil, GSkill] are even suggesting pulling the CMOS battery for hours to reset the Bios completely.

[Deus Excalibur]

Try the above settings plz... NB voltage is way too low for quad for sure

Thank you, so far so good using your changes. I tried a higher NB voltage before but I'm beginning to suspect I need more vcore on this board. Which is a shame because I reached the same speeds at 1.248v on the P5K-E and IP35 Pro.

A good thing however is the vcore is *rock solid* on this board. Not the slightest budge from 1.288v.

It usually BSODs after an hour and it has been an hour and a half... we shall see.

[HempHog]

Anyone with a nvidia 8800 series card check your pci-e frequency in windows with setfsb, even though I have it set as 100 it reports as 125 in setfsb and various other programs, this is limiting my overclock to 430 fsb. 430+ boots but not stable, anything higher then 445 my comp will not even post, changing out the video card fixes this problem however.

[dude_500]

What Clock Gen does the maximus use? On ICS9LPRS918BKL I'm getting 125 PCI-E but on another (forget which one) it showed 100, however then the FSB was off.

[eSp!s0]

2x2GB G.Skill GBPK(1066Mhz) is wotking very good.

Can we close the old thread now!?

[tiesum]

Hi Tiesum
Did you try to play game with this setting and no error ?? Because I got "Nvidia Driver stopped responding" message when gaming with this setting

I didn't try gaming. I just downloaded 3DMark and let it run for half an hour without problems. Did you try different games?

[xgman]

Anyone know why this may be happening?

With bios 1004, with the absolute EXACT settings as bios 907 except Row Refresh Cycle time which is set at 42 on bios 907, but either 45 or 50 on bios 1004. Here's what happens. Upon a cold boot ONLY, I get this message at the F1 to go into setup prompt every time:

"Error. The CPU Core to Bus Ratio or VID Coinfiguration has failed" On the LED readout it says "InitROM". If I hit F10, resave bios as it is and proceed into windows, everything is just as stable and fine as with bios 907. Even if I restart the computer all is fine. Only when power is shut doen and then restarted cold does this occur. So this is strictly bios 1004 related. Any ideas? I would like to use bios 1004, but I'm tired of the F10 re-saving bios at cold boot hassle.

[xgman]

Anyone with a nvidia 8800 series card check your pci-e frequency in windows with setfsb, even though I have it set as 100 it reports as 125 in setfsb and various other programs, this is limiting my overclock to 430 fsb. 430+ boots but not stable, anything higher then 445 my comp will not even post, changing out the video card fixes this problem however.

Hmmm, mine says 131 when it is set to 105 in bios. Setfsb must be off. This is with clock generator ICS9LPRS918BLK. Is that the right one to use?

[sobih25]

same with my maximus - ezflash cant flash loader...

[Grnfinger]

Well after a few days running 1004, the dreaded DET RAM hang is back.
pisses me off, it shouldnt take 3-4 mins to get your :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing pc to start.

rant / off

[kup]

I've had to go back to AUTO strap and DRAM Freq to remove the DETDRAM issue...

I think this will be my last Asus unless the Rampage has NONE of these stupid errors!

[xgman]

I guess in all fairness bios 1004 is not released yet, so maybe they will get it right prior to posting it. Still, it doesn't give you much confidence.

[zlojack]

Yeah...but seriously...how long is it going to take them to figure it out?

First it was the Chinese New Year excuse...now...well...uhm...

What's their excuse now?

[outlandos]

I am new to overclocking and I am wondering if my northbridge temp is too high:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/outlandos/ntemp.jpg

Because sometimes I get a Data Execution Prevention (http://ictfreak.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/how-to-disable-dep-data-execution-prevention/) error.

I am running my E8500 on 4.0Ghz

What is a save northbridge voltage for my system?

[icecpu]

I didn't try gaming. I just downloaded 3DMark and let it run for half an hour without problems. Did you try different games?

Every game is the same error if I set divider 5:6 1129Mhz, But ran fine if set 1:1 divider at 470Mhz.

[Grnfinger]

I had the A8N SLI-Deluxe b4 this board. It was the same, the board was a pos till bios 1016, after that it was a killer board.
I just dont understand why they release something way b4 its ready. I dont mind a little bug here or there. Growing pains are tollerable, but for christ sakes 4 months down the road and there no closer to having this board solid than the day it was conceived. very frustrating

[bro20000]

I am new to overclocking and I am wondering if my northbridge temp is too high:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/outlandos/ntemp.jpg

Because sometimes I get a Data Execution Prevention (http://ictfreak.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/how-to-disable-dep-data-execution-prevention/) error.

I am running my E8500 on 4.0Ghz

What is a save northbridge voltage for my system?


That northbridge temp looks about right to me not bad on load!

[kup]

I had the A8N SLI-Deluxe b4 this board. It was the same, the board was a pos till bios 1016, after that it was a killer board.
I just dont understand why they release something way b4 its ready. I dont mind a little bug here or there. Growing pains are tollerable, but for christ sakes 4 months down the road and there no closer to having this board solid than the day it was conceived. very frustrating

+1 :up:

My Striker was a POS until bios 1301 (which was a beta and never officially released). The Bios 1305 and forward screwed things up again... :ROTF:

[outlandos]

That northbridge temp looks about right to me not bad on load!

Thanks for your reply! :up:

because I have some problems with my Maximus Formula combining an E8500 and a high overclock I made a seperate topic here:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...77#post2827677

Any input from you in that topic would be much appreciated!

Thanks in advance! :cool:

[zlojack]

Playing around with 1004.

Got my RAM to 1066 with no errors (2x2GB G.Skill PC2-8000)

1100 MHz is still a no-go even with the looser tRFC.

Anyone got a set of 2x2 24/7 at 1100 MHz on this board?

[edo]

Playing around with 1004.

Got my RAM to 1066 with no errors (2x2GB G.Skill PC2-8000)

1100 MHz is still a no-go even with the looser tRFC.

Anyone got a set of 2x2 24/7 at 1100 MHz on this board?

what kind of software do you use to test mem stability?

[ChaosMinionX]

what kind of software do you use to test mem stability?

OCCT, Prime95, Memtest 86+ 2.01

Any of those will do....

[edo]

OCCT, Prime95, Memtest 86+ 2.01

Any of those will do....

blend test for prime ?

memtest does not recognize 4 gb :confused:

i'll try OCCT, thank's for reply

[xgman]

Playing around with 1004.

Got my RAM to 1066 with no errors (2x2GB G.Skill PC2-8000)

1100 MHz is still a no-go even with the looser tRFC.

Anyone got a set of 2x2 24/7 at 1100 MHz on this board?

4x1gb at 1160. I think 2gb sticks are not binned as high as the 1 gb sticks are.

[The Stilt]

Maybe I was a bit too tired when I wrote the instructions ;)

For the first step you need to use Afudos and not EZ-Flash.

AFUDOS 2.36 (http://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/flash/AFUDOS236.zip)

Download AFUDOS and extract it to desired location.
Copy AFUDOS.exe to the root of USB memory.

Boot to dos and write AFUDOS /iLOADER.rom

When the programming is completed reboot and start EZ-Flash.

Then update in RAMPAGE.rom

[equetefue]

can you try 1004 and revert to 0907 using ez flash ?? also does running vista x64 affect anything...

Going to be buying ram for this board... what seems to be compatible right out of the box ? Mushkin has some 1.8v DDR 800 2x2gb kits

[paakkis]

It works with EZ-Flash also, but only model name chanced :D

Screenshot (http://koti.mbnet.fi/paakkis/Rampage.gif)

[ChaosMinionX]

blend test for prime ?

memtest does not recognize 4 gb :confused:

i'll try OCCT, thank's for reply

Memtest recognizes 8GB... so it will do 4GB... get 2.01 :)

[kup]

It works with EZ-Flash also, but only model name chanced :D

Screenshot (http://koti.mbnet.fi/paakkis/Rampage.gif)

What bit did you flash? The Loader.rom?

[jorgito05]

My AVG Anti-virus detected a Trojan Horse in the CPUZ.exe as it initiated last nigh; It quarrentined but not till after some of my .Dll files where corrupted or changed. Now I ger error mesiges all the time.

Thought you guys might want to know!

[kup]

My AVG Anti-virus detected a Trojan Horse in the CPUZ.exe as it initiated last nigh; It quarrentined but not till after some of my .Dll files where corrupted or changed. Now I ger error mesiges all the time.

Thought you guys might want to know!

Prob best to email the guys @ CPUID and let them know...

[Grnfinger]

Well I did it

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0248.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0254.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0253.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0251.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0250.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0249.jpg

Now all I have to do is get this bios sorted out.
MAJOR settings

[Grnfinger]

I just did it Kup

OMG what :banana::banana::banana::banana: load of settings to sort out

:up: to stilt for this kick ass mod

[kup]

Haha, I just saw! I expect results within the hour...! :D

Was it easy using AFUDOS?

[paakkis]

Yep, same here (http://koti.mbnet.fi/paakkis/rampage_done.gif)

[Grnfinger]

I hope to have something sorted out shortly

I have the cpu back to 4300 now to sort out this ram settings

Easy as hell using AFUDOS, was harder to get maximus to boot from the usb drive

[kup]

Interesting, Do you wanna post some clock for clock performance comparisons? If it works out to be worth the flash I'll add it to the big thread.

Anyone wanna test Quad FSB on this bios?

[Grnfinger]

I think I have to redo the OS, my web pages wont refresh, had to grab the lappy to post here. Crossing fingers its not because of the conversion.
I'll redo the OS and do so comparisons, so far I am impressed, Vista seems to boot way faster and my ram is not overclocked yet.

[kup]

Interesting? Not worth making a Ghost image just incase? Lets hope this flash doesn't mess up the onboard kit?

Could you not just reinstall the drivers, as per the Rampage support page?

[Grnfinger]

Good call, I never even thought to update to Rampage drivers