The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Spyrus]

'By setting the Transaction Booster to Disabled, and A relax level of 0, I was able to successfully Prime with a tad lower CPU core voltages.'
This shouldn't be correct. Lowering tRD (PL) as in your case results in lowering NB voltages for same fsb.

[icecpu]

Just up your NB voltage...

On another topic, many people have been complaining of instabilities once the NB gets hot. Mine runs 49C idle and 55C after a good gaming session but my board shows absolutely no signs of instability whatsoever. In fact, rock stable. Anyone else have the same luck?

My Northbridge is at 1.61V and idle 50C sometime up to 60C, still rock solid stable. The thing is my board get hang at DET DRAM if northbridge set below 1.61v. And also hang if memory voltage set below 2.20v , so weird.

[theonlybabyface]

I just want to share my stable settings with others as well. Using D9's and these are rock solid. Still, I'm going to try and lower some of these voltages so please take a look and see which ones you think I "should" be able to lower most likely. The vcore could be one as I just carried over that voltage from my P5K Premium.

Extreme Tweaker

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 10
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 2
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 25
Write Recovery Time : 3
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 7
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
Ai Clock Twister : STRONG
Transaction Booster : DISABLED
Boost Level : 0
CPU Voltage : 1.4375 (Actual 1.41)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.04
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

[Grnfinger]

Anyone running Vista and have tried the RTM service pack?

looking for comments b4 I load it, M$ Tech Net has very little feedback atm

[WFO]

Anyone running Vista and have tried the RTM service pack?

looking for comments b4 I load it, M$ Tech Net has very little feedback atm

I've been running the SP1 RC beta refresh on 2 Vista 64 Ultimate rigs for quite awhile. I've had no issues and the systems are more responsive. :)

[ZenEffect]

Anyone running Vista and have tried the RTM service pack?

looking for comments b4 I load it, M$ Tech Net has very little feedback atm

im taking the xp to windows 7 skipping vista. xp sp3 seems more responsive as well :yepp: :up:

[Grnfinger]

I've been running the SP1 RC beta refresh on 2 Vista 64 Ultimate rigs for quite awhile. I've had no issues and the systems are more responsive. :)

not the rc1 beta grrr, the RTM, I have the beta and was looking to see if the jump to the legit is painless

[theonlybabyface]

not the rc1 beta grrr, the RTM, I have the beta and was looking to see if the jump to the legit is painless

I would like to try it as well but I can't find it. It's not even listed under my MSDN yet. :confused:

[zlojack]

I'm having trouble getting my memory to post.

I am trying 8x500 for and even 4.0. With all the memory settings on auto it boots up and passes Orthos Small FFT (16 hours) and Large FFT (7.5 hours)

But when I try to set the memory timings manually, it hangs at DET DRAM

When I run it with a 400 FSB it posts at 5-5-5-12 no problem. But at 1:1 with 500 FSB it only works on AUTO.:shrug:



Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 120
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1000
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
(I had all of these settings manual on my Q6600, but haven't got there yet since installing the E8400)
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO (Have tried with this on and still nothing)
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.36875
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61
DRAM Voltage : 2.04
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.52
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt


CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

[cadaveca]

I have mojr issue with 400mhz strap...333 works fine tho. Includes graphical errors, usb drops, network issue...pretty much guarantees it's nothing but a chipset/bios issue.

[eSp!s0]

Can somebody tell me, what "CPU TM Function" does and if it should be enabled or disabled?
I took a look at my manual, at wikipedia.org and searched over google but I didn`t find any explanation :(
And is "Vanderpool" only useful when using system or does it do anything else (with normal desktop system for gaming, surfing and things like that for example)?
Thank you in advance for your help :)

[Eastcoasthandle]

Can somebody tell me, what "CPU TM Function" does and if it should be enabled or disabled?
I took a look at my manual, at wikipedia.org and searched over google but I didn`t find any explanation :(
And is "Vanderpool" only useful when using system or does it do anything else (with normal desktop system for gaming, surfing and things like that for example)?
Thank you in advance for your help :)

It suppose to be some sort of throttle protection management if memory serves me correctly. If I am correct I would keep it enabled!

[Eastcoasthandle]

anybody?
do you think i have a bad cpu?
even with a low VID i need 1.352 volts to hit 3.0ghz...
does that sound normal?

That's pretty high. You should be able to do 3.6GHz at 1.35000V stable. If not I would RMA for another.

[S1mon-]

That's pretty high. You should be able to do 3.6GHz at 1.35000V stable. If not I would RMA for another.

He can do 3,6GHz at 1,4V which a little better than the average chip.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Just up your NB voltage...

On another topic, many people have been complaining of instabilities once the NB gets hot. Mine runs 49C idle and 55C after a good gaming session but my board shows absolutely no signs of instability whatsoever. In fact, rock stable. Anyone else have the same luck?

I would honestly tell people to make sure they remount their N/S Bridge HS with AS5. I have found 2 board where the TC wasn't making full contact on the IHS of the N/S Bridge IHS. Maybe that was just me and my boards. Here are pics right here:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/th_4658f9e0.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/4658f9e0.jpg)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/th_cbf00ab5.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/cbf00ab5.jpg)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/th_8be3f661.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/8be3f661.jpg)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/th_19d81b59.jpg (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/Maximus%20Forumula/19d81b59.jpg)


But in a nutshell it's a good idea to remove the oem TC and use AS5 and place the HS back on to be assured that the HS is making full contact with the IHS of the N/S Bridge IHS.

[iadstudio]

I think I finally figured this board out. 460fsb stable and the memory is holding it's own, too. I think the mix of Transaction Booster disabled (0) , Statis Read disabled and Clock twister strong did it for me. I wasn't really having trouble getting hte higher memory frequencies stable, but I was loosing a lot of performance from slackened board timings.

Does it seem like my board voltages are a little high for a dual-core? I'm going to try to lower them a bit and see what happens.

ps. don't laugh at my vCore. :eek: I wish it didn't take that much, but it does.

[Eastcoasthandle]

He can do 3,6GHz at 1,4V which a little better than the average chip.

To me that's pretty unusual. My E6850 could do 3.60GHz at 1.35000V.

[Wallboy]

I reinstalled my Windows and first saved my OC Profile and then loaded setup defaults and now I'm getting that CPU Fan error! Press F1 to Resume. How do I get rid of that error.

[S1mon-]

To me that's pretty unusual. My E6850 could do 3.60GHz at 1.35000V.

Every CPU are different and he got a quad core, you got a dual core... My E6600 needed 1,53V to get 3,6GHz stable...

[Prodigys]

I think I finally figured this board out. 460fsb stable and the memory is holding it's own, too. I think the mix of Transaction Booster disabled (0) , Statis Read disabled and Clock twister strong did it for me. I wasn't really having trouble getting hte higher memory frequencies stable, but I was loosing a lot of performance from slackened board timings.

Does it seem like my board voltages are a little high for a dual-core? I'm going to try to lower them a bit and see what happens.

ps. don't laugh at my vCore. :eek: I wish it didn't take that much, but it does.

What did you use to read all that info out ?

EDIT:

Can the people with 445+ FSB on Q6600 give me this info :

FSB x MP

PLL : .... V
NB : .... V
FSB : .... V
SB : .... V
CPU GTL : ....
NB GTL : ....
SB 1.5V : .... V

NB Strap : .... (200/266/333/400)
AI Clock Twister : ....
Transaction Booster : ...

[arfett]

According to my math, I need to be using TRD 9 for 450x8 with cas latency 5 according to that Anandtech article. That sound about right?

[Grnfinger]

I would like to try it as well but I can't find it. It's not even listed under my MSDN yet. :confused:

I have both 32 and 64 bit, just looking for some feedback

[cuke2u]

im taking the xp to windows 7 skipping vista. xp sp3 seems more responsive as well :yepp: :up:

Hi, you'll be waiting at least another 2/3 years for windows 7, might even be even longer...
Chris

[Dostoyevsky77]

Grnfinger, I'd be delighted to try it for you if I could find it. I'm only running refresh 1.

I got a new E8400 last night, and it's a world of difference. If anyone cares to share their opinions, it would be appreciated. THREAD LINK (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=176210).

[Prodigys]

People I got a problem.

I was able to run 468 x 9 with a older BIOS. Now I'm only able to run 445 x 9, this is Prime95 stable for 5 minutes...

In the BIOS I set everything on AUTO except the Vcore.
With these settings Prime95 is only stable for 8 hours and more on 425 x 9...
When I try 468 x 9 it freezes just before I go into Vista.

Surely a problem with the voltage somewhere. But I don't know all these settings because I come frome a P35-DQ6...

Now I tried to find the max stable FSB with all voltages set to AUTO and this was 470 x 7, when I try 475 x 7 it fails within 5 min at Prime95.

So normally I should be able to get 470 x 9 with everything on AUTO BUT (!) it doesn't like I explained earlier...

Some help is much appreciated !!!

(Somebody now a program wich can read PLL/NB/SB voltage in windows ?)

[S1mon-]

Lol you can't run a quad core with 468 FSB with settings on auto... you'll need a minimum of 1,65V on the NB and most likely 1,45-1,50V vFSB and 1,6V PLL :up:

[S1mon-]

Also, you'll need to use Transaction booster Disabled (0) at minimum to reduce the stress on your mobo

[CERO]

People I got a problem.

I was able to run 468 x 9 with a older BIOS. Now I'm only able to run 445 x 9, this is Prime95 stable for 5 minutes...

In the BIOS I set everything on AUTO except the Vcore.
With these settings Prime95 is only stable for 8 hours and more on 425 x 9...
When I try 468 x 9 it freezes just before I go into Vista.

Surely a problem with the voltage somewhere. But I don't know all these settings because I come frome a P35-DQ6...

Now I tried to find the max stable FSB with all voltages set to AUTO and this was 470 x 7, when I try 475 x 7 it fails within 5 min at Prime95.

So normally I should be able to get 470 x 9 with everything on AUTO BUT (!) it doesn't like I explained earlier...

Some help is much appreciated !!!

(Somebody now a program wich can read PLL/NB/SB voltage in windows ?)


First tip never use AUTO as the board overvolts, but as u dont know these settings u cant help it:)
High fsb works the best on this board with 333 strap, disable transaction booster( relax level :0 , u might need to relax to :1, if u do, u need less volts on the NB as to go on a lower performance level, and volts on the NB is less demanding/ and dram static read control but u can use clock twister set on strong to maintain some performance boost on mem. Try this: 1.55-1.60v) FSbv: 1.40- 1.45 / CPU/NB GTL: 0.63x/0.67x accordingly. CPU PLL: 1.50( it already overvolts to 1.61v, and beyond that I never find any improvements.
If u use 4 Dimms or many drives, u might need to bump a notch on the SB: 1.075 should be good. Try this out and let me know if it worked out, Good luck

[Prodigys]

Lol you can't run a quad core with 468 FSB with settings on auto... you'll need a minimum of 1,65V on the NB and most likely 1,45-1,50V vFSB and 1,6V PLL :up:

I did get 470 x 7 with all AUTO except Vcore :p: .
But I'm going to try what you said !
This is for 470 x 9 right ?


Also, you'll need to use Transaction booster Disabled (0) at minimum to reduce the stress on your mobo

I going to remind that.


First tip never use AUTO as the board overvolts, but as u dont know these settings u cant help it:)
High fsb works the best on this board with 333 strap, disable transaction booster( relax level :0 , u might need to relax to :1, if u do, u need less volts on the NB as to go on a lower performance level, and volts on the NB is less demanding/ and dram static read control but u can use clock twister set on strong to maintain some performance boost on mem. Try this: 1.55-1.60v) FSbv: 1.40- 1.45 / CPU/NB GTL: 0.63x/0.67x accordingly. CPU PLL: 1.50( it already overvolts to 1.61v, and beyond that I never find any improvements.
If u use 4 Dimms or many drives, u might need to bump a notch on the SB: 1.075 should be good. Try this out and let me know if it worked out, Good luck

Indeed, as I don't know the settings I can't help it :) .
So you say for 470 x 9 use this:

FSB on 1.45
CPU/NB on 0.63/0.67
PLL on 1.50
SB on 1.075
And what with the 1.55-160 ?

Best moeilijk hoor als je van Gigabyte P35 bordje naar Asus X38 gaat... Na zoveel jaar pas mijn eerste Asus bordje :down: :p: .

[CERO]

Indeed, as I don't know the settings I can't help it :) .
So you say for 470 x 9 use this:

FSB on 1.45
CPU/NB on 0.63/0.67
PLL on 1.50
SB on 1.075
And what with the 1.55-160 ?

Best moeilijk hoor als je van Gigabyte P35 bordje naar Asus X38 gaat... Na zoveel jaar pas mijn eerste Asus bordje :down: :p: .

Hey m8, Asus is very easy going when it comes to BIOS setting unlike DFI, but maybe because I always had Asus board :up:

FSB: 1.45
CPU/ NB GTL 0.63x / 0.67x
SB: 1.075
NB voltage: 1.55- 1.60, this really differs from board to board, but like I mentioned when u lower Performance level, u need less volts on the NB, going on a lower performance level u can do this by Disable Transaction booster and relaxing levels from 0 -6 or 8, not sure on that
Transaction Booster: Disable, relax level: 0 ( if it doesnt play well relax to:1 )

This board suffers from divider issues, :(, hope they can fix this with upcomming BIOS releases

[eSp!s0]

Best moeilijk hoor als je van Gigabyte P35 bordje naar Asus X38 gaat... Na zoveel jaar pas mijn eerste Asus bordje :down: :p: .

Now I know, why mc2k is understanding german that good :)
The differences of these two languages aren`t that big :yepp:

[CERO]

hehe true m8 , I had a 10 ( 1 in Germany) for German :up: on my "gymnasium" certificate

[Prodigys]

Hey m8, Asus is very easy going when it comes to BIOS setting unlike DFI, but maybe because I always had Asus board :up:

FSB: 1.45
CPU/ NB GTL 0.63x / 0.67x
SB: 1.075
NB voltage: 1.55- 1.60, this really differs from board to board, but like I mentioned when u lower Performance level, u need less volts on the NB, going on a lower performance level u can do this by Disable Transaction booster and relaxing levels from 0 -6 or 8, not sure on that
Transaction Booster: Disable, relax level: 0 ( if it doesnt play well relax to:1 )

This board suffers from divider issues, :(, hope they can fix this with upcomming BIOS releases

I'm going to try it !


Now I know, why mc2k is understanding german that good :)
The differences of these two languages aren`t that big :yepp:

German isn't so hard to understand for us... Especially not for me becuase I only live 5km from the German's border :p: .

[iadstudio]

What did you use to read all that info out ?



Everest Ultimate edition. Worth the $35 if you ask me. The free version doesn't show a lot of that stuff.

[CERO]

well u can PM me for a "full version" :D

[Wolf2000me]

German isn't so hard to understand for us... Especially not for me becuase I only live 5km from the German's border :p: .

You talk with "Mich" and "Dich" or what? :) :D

Some people say there isn't enough difference between German and Dutch to speak of a different language. I disagree however, never did very well in German classes although my pronounciation is excellent.

[eSp!s0]

You talk with "Mich" and "Dich" or what? :) :D

Some people say there isn't enough difference between German and Dutch to speak of a different language. I disagree however, never did very well in German classes although my pronounciation is excellent.

I never had dutch but I can recognize a few words because they are very similar sometimes.
But I never will understand a whole dutch sentence, only if I am very lucky and all words sound like similar german ones, it`s a complete different laguage for me.
But the "Holländer" are quiet good in speaking german, that`s awesome. Never met one who couldn`t speak german a bit :up:

And to say it once again: please excuse me for my english :D
german is the only language I really can speak and write in good. My english is horrible but I think most guys understand me.
And my french, don`t ask about :rolleyes: 4 years french in school but I couldn`t order a simple pizza ;)

But back to topic :)

Has anybody a good explanation for "CPU TM Function"? Sb wrote something with "ThrottleManagement" but he wasn`t sure.

[Prodigys]

You talk with "Mich" and "Dich" or what? :) :D

Some people say there isn't enough difference between German and Dutch to speak of a different language. I disagree however, never did very well in German classes although my pronounciation is excellent.

Yes 'ich' talk like 'det' :p: .

Alhoewel mijn dialect niet makkelijk is voor te typen :eek: !

Anyway, I tried the settings you guys gave me and this are the results :


9 x 468

Strap : 400 Mhz
PCI-e : 105 Mhz
RAM : 936 Mhz
Command Rate : 2T
Timings : 5-5-5-15
AI Clock : AUTO
Transaction Booster : Disabled (0)
PLL : 1.60
FSB : 1.50
RAM : 2.20
NB : 1.65
SB : 1.1
GTL CPU : 0.63x
GTL NB : 0.67x
SB 1.5V : AUTO

It did boot till the loading bar from Vista then BSOD...
Then I changed the PL (tRD).

Transaction Booster : Disabled (1)
Before the loading bar system restarted.

Transaction Booster : Disabled (2)
Before the loading bar system restarted.

Transaction Booster : Disabled (3)
Before the loading bar system restarted.

Then I tried this :


9 x 468

Strap : 333 Mhz
PCI-e : 105 Mhz
RAM : 936 Mhz
Command Rate : 2T
Timings : 5-5-5-15
AI Clock : AUTO
Transaction Booster : Disabled (0)
PLL : 1.60
FSB : 1.50
RAM : 2.20
NB : 1.65
SB : 1.1
GTL CPU : 0.63x
GTL NB : 0.67x
SB 1.5V : AUTO

The system did go off to set the new settings, then it started and I got a "Bad BIOS Checksum error" ......

Did have to put the DVD in and he loaded automatically the first BIOS (0107) and I was back up & running...

VERY strange thing, so I think it doesn't work :yepp: :rofl: .

[Zucker2k]

The system did go off to set the new settings, then it started and I got a "Bad BIOS Checksum error" ......

Did have to put the DVD in and he loaded automatically the first BIOS (0107) and I was back up & running...

VERY strange thing, so I think it doesn't work :yepp: :rofl: .
A very very bad oveclock usually produces that. I would be very careful doing that.

[Prodigys]

A very very bad oveclock usually produces that. I would be very careful doing that.

Yes but the strange thing is, I only get it when I set the strap to 333Mhz, when I only that (and yes only that) option change to 400mhz he boot's till the loading bar. When I only change the strap from 400 to 333 and all the other settings the same I get the bad checksum error...

Strange thing is, when that happend, I did hit the reset button, and everything was back to normal ... Still had the same BIOS and same settings... :clap: .

Asus I demand a new BIOS :shakes: :p: .

[iadstudio]

unfortunately I don't think it is a bad bios from Asus (although a Rampage-like Bios would be nice) and it looks like you don't totally get how to manage timings on this board.

This board is not very forgiving. You need to set everything exactly right (not auto) and it will perform like a champ. Things (voltages) not set right will fry you parts. Be careful.

[ZenEffect]

start your bios wish list and i will send it once every day to asus because im a jerk like that

1.)Trd control like in rampage bios
2.)Better CPU GTL adjustment

add on if you would like, im sending it out 8pm PST every night

[Dostoyevsky77]

start your bios wish list and i will send it once every day to asus because im a jerk like that

1.)Trd control like in rampage bios
2.)Better CPU GTL adjustment

add on if you would like, im sending it out 8pm PST every night

Um...

3) tRFC goes to 54

(so I can test Tony's 4x1 theory without using memset).

[theonlybabyface]

I would honestly tell people to make sure they remount their N/S Bridge HS with AS5. I have found 2 board where the TC wasn't making full contact on the IHS of the N/S Bridge IHS. Maybe that was just me and my boards.

But in a nutshell it's a good idea to remove the oem TC and use AS5 and place the HS back on to be assured that the HS is making full contact with the IHS of the N/S Bridge IHS.

So I ended up checking my NB and three of the screws were loose. Tightened them up nice and snug and now I idle @ 39C and full load about 43C. I would suggest everyone to check and make sure that the screws are tight. :)

[rbsmontemor]

So I ended up checking my NB and three of the screws were loose. Tightened them up nice and snug and now I idle @ 41C and full load about 45C. I would suggest everyone to check and make sure that the screws are tight. :)

How are your temps like before?

Rbs.
:wave:

[FZ1]

start your bios wish list and i will send it once every day to asus because im a jerk like that

:rofl:

[theonlybabyface]

How are your temps like before?

Rbs.
:wave:

We're talking 49C idle and 55C load...

[Prodigys]

unfortunately I don't think it is a bad bios from Asus (although a Rampage-like Bios would be nice) and it looks like you don't totally get how to manage timings on this board.

This board is not very forgiving. You need to set everything exactly right (not auto) and it will perform like a champ. Things (voltages) not set right will fry you parts. Be careful.


I know that, but I mean, I didn't do anything special ...
But I'm still with the problem, that I could do 468 x 9 and no it wont work anymore...

And I have no idea what for voltages to use for what, and why GTL :banana::banana::banana::banana: means for...
I'm for the first time on a quadcore, not to mention the first time on a Asus motherboard...

He will run 445 x 9 on AUTO, but only for 5 min Prime95 stable, IF I could read the valeu's of every part IN Windows on that speed I would know what to change...

So, anybody know a program to read out PLL/NB/SB voltages etc.......

Everest/HWMonitor/PC Wizard 2008 dont give me anything ;) .

[JoeBar]

So, anybody know a program to read out PLL/NB/SB voltages etc.......

Everest/HWMonitor/PC Wizard 2008 dont give me anything ;) .

P5E doesn't have that sensors, so u can't read them... ;)

[Wolf2000me]

I never had dutch but I can recognize a few words because they are very similar sometimes.
But I never will understand a whole dutch sentence, only if I am very lucky and all words sound like similar german ones, it`s a complete different laguage for me.
But the "Holländer" are quiet good in speaking german, that`s awesome. Never met one who couldn`t speak german a bit :up:


I picked up an old German geezer who was hitchhiking on the side of the road a few years ago. I took up my best German but after a few minutes he told me to speak Dutch as he'd understand me better, or so he said :D
And I as non native English speaker can understand your written English pretty good but of course I have no idea wheather I'd understand your spoken English.


Yes 'ich' talk like 'det' :p: .

Alhoewel mijn dialect niet makkelijk is voor te typen :eek: !

Valt best mee, typ gewoon Duits ;)



Anyway, I tried the settings you guys gave me and this are the results :


9 x 468

Strap : 400 Mhz
PCI-e : 105 Mhz
RAM : 936 Mhz
Command Rate : 2T
Timings : 5-5-5-15
AI Clock : AUTO
Transaction Booster : Disabled (0)
PLL : 1.60
FSB : 1.50
RAM : 2.20
NB : 1.65
SB : 1.1
GTL CPU : 0.63x
GTL NB : 0.67x
SB 1.5V : AUTO

It did boot till the loading bar from Vista then BSOD...
Then I changed the PL (tRD).

Transaction Booster : Disabled (1)
Before the loading bar system restarted.

Transaction Booster : Disabled (2)
Before the loading bar system restarted.

Transaction Booster : Disabled (3)
Before the loading bar system restarted.

Then I tried this :


9 x 468

Strap : 333 Mhz
PCI-e : 105 Mhz
RAM : 936 Mhz
Command Rate : 2T
Timings : 5-5-5-15
AI Clock : AUTO
Transaction Booster : Disabled (0)
PLL : 1.60
FSB : 1.50
RAM : 2.20
NB : 1.65
SB : 1.1
GTL CPU : 0.63x
GTL NB : 0.67x
SB 1.5V : AUTO

The system did go off to set the new settings, then it started and I got a "Bad BIOS Checksum error" ......

Did have to put the DVD in and he loaded automatically the first BIOS (0107) and I was back up & running...

VERY strange thing, so I think it doesn't work :yepp: :rofl: .

This might be caused by attempting to write to the BIOS with unstable settings. You should avoid doing that and I'd know, I used to do beta testing for Merlin. Older boards would have knocked out your bios chip. If you're uncertain of stability, which occurs rather often, you should perhaps first revert to factory settings and save your current OC in a profile.
And don't use profiles when you updated or downgraded your bios version. It doesn't work very well either.

Does anyone have an idea where to find a spare bios chip? Or is our bios chip not socketed?
Those chips are pretty mandatory when using modded bios binaries.

[chew*]

its quite possible your chip can just not do 4.0 gig.........These quads are not like the c2d's, great chips do 4.0, good chips do 3.6, bad chips do less......

My chip is sort of a gem, running it 8x400 at stock volts (vid 1.225) across the board.....Unfortunately I can not keep it cool enough with my current equipment to push it further, and expect any longevity out of it. 8x450 for 3.6is a breeze save for temps but 9x450 is way to much heat for my taste.....

Most people on air only get 3.6 with the best air solutions, so if your on air that may be your problem, On water 4.0 might be attainable depending on your setup......

[Prodigys]

P5E doesn't have that sensors, so u can't read them... ;)

Pffffffffffffff :shakes: :shakes: :down: !!!!

[Prodigys]

I picked up an old German geezer who was hitchhiking on the side of the road a few years ago. I took up my best German but after a few minutes he told me to speak Dutch as he'd understand me better, or so he said :D
And I as non native English speaker can understand your written English pretty good but of course I have no idea wheather I'd understand your spoken English.


Valt best mee, typ gewoon Duits ;)



This might be caused by attempting to write to the BIOS with unstable settings. You should avoid doing that and I'd know, I used to do beta testing for Merlin. Older boards would have knocked out your bios chip. If you're uncertain of stability, which occurs rather often, you should perhaps first revert to factory settings and save your current OC in a profile.
And don't use profiles when you updated or downgraded your bios version. It doesn't work very well either.

Does anyone have an idea where to find a spare bios chip? Or is our bios chip not socketed?
Those chips are pretty mandatory when using modded bios binaries.

BIOS Chip was solderd on I thought... Hipro5 made a tutorial about this but not sure ;) .


its quite possible your chip can just not do 4.0 gig.........These quads are not like the c2d's, great chips do 4.0, good chips do 3.6, bad chips do less......

My chip is sort of a gem, running it 8x400 at stock volts (vid 1.225) across the board.....Unfortunately I can not keep it cool enough with my current equipment to push it further, and expect any longevity out of it. 8x450 for 3.6is a breeze save for temps but 9x450 is way to much heat for my taste.....

Most people on air only get 3.6 with the best air solutions, so if your on air that may be your problem, On water 4.0 might be attainable depending on your setup......


My Q6600 runs Ghz on 1.42Vcore , and 4.2Ghz on only 1.45Vcore ...
So I would doubt it becuase I already did a 4.2Ghz SuperPi bench with all AUTO (yes I know it's bad, but only that would boot... :p: ).

EDIT:

Double post :down: :mad: .

[tommithy]

Latest Everest Ultimate will read everything except PLL on the maximus board

[Prodigys]

Latest Everest Ultimate will read everything except PLL on the maximus board

Everest build number ?

I have the 4.20.1270 BETA, and still only managed to get 12V/3.3V/5V and also wrong value's ...

And CPU temps, but nothing else ...
Can't be that there's nothing to read this mobo out :confused: .

[tommithy]

Everest build number ?

I have the 4.20.1270 BETA, and still only managed to get 12V/3.3V/5V and also wrong value's ...

And CPU temps, but nothing else ...
Can't be that there's nothing to read this mobo out :confused: .

I use Everest Ultimate 4.20.1170. Are you running the registered version or trial version? I'm using registered non-trial version.

[chew*]

BIOS Chip was solderd on I thought... Hipro5 made a tutorial about this but not sure ;) .




My Q6600 runs Ghz on 1.42Vcore , and 4.2Ghz on only 1.45Vcore ...
So I would doubt it becuase I already did a 4.2Ghz SuperPi bench with all AUTO (yes I know it's bad, but only that would boot... :p: ).

EDIT:

Double post :down: :mad: .

Super PI at 4.2g means just that you can do a pi at 4.2g, It DOES NOT mean your cpu can do 24/7 stable @ 4.2g............................

I would attempt to boot at your auto settings again and use every utility possible to get the settings used by auto, etc voltages, timings, ram speed, and whatever other settings then try to weed out what settings allowed you to get there..........

Or you can do it the process of elimination way, downclock cpu with multi's downclock ram, find max stable fsb of mobo, after that find max stable speed of cpu PI is not gonna tell you if your stable, most who can pass PI can not run 3d apps or prime, lastly throw the ram into equasion once you found the max stable mobo fsb and cpu clock, eachtime you add something to the equasion you will likely have to downclock a tad.................

[tommithy]

@chew

funny how you say most who can pass PI can not run 3d apps or prime as I'm totally opposite. I can prime all day, run any program I want all day and my machine runs great but if I try PI at anything above 1m superpi will crash.

[chew*]

@chew

funny how you say most who can pass PI can not run 3d apps or prime as I'm totally opposite. I can prime all day, run any program I want all day and my machine runs great but if I try PI at anything above 1m superpi will crash.

Then you would appear to have a memory issue or need to play with cpu pll or one of the NB settings ;) Id say your not 100% dialed in on the sweetspot of your ram or the chipset or the high FSB.....go check the prime stable threads, there are lots and lots that pass PI fine at insane speeds, Prime and 3d apps snap them back into reality in what the chips able to do 24/7 however

Just out of curiosity, slap a divider on your ram and downclock it and try something higher you failed PI at before like 8M If it still fails look to the chipset as the cause.....and tweak the voltage a little, could possibly be cpu pll volts also if its a GO chip.

[Prodigys]

I use Everest Ultimate 4.20.1170. Are you running the registered version or trial version? I'm using registered non-trial version.

I'm using also the registered non-trail version :) .
I think I'm going to believe JoeBar that the P5E doesn't have the read-out's...



Super PI at 4.2g means just that you can do a pi at 4.2g, It DOES NOT mean your cpu can do 24/7 stable @ 4.2g............................

I would attempt to boot at your auto settings again and use every utility possible to get the settings used by auto, etc voltages, timings, ram speed, and whatever other settings then try to weed out what settings allowed you to get there..........

Or you can do it the process of elimination way, downclock cpu with multi's downclock ram, find max stable fsb of mobo, after that find max stable speed of cpu PI is not gonna tell you if your stable, most who can pass PI can not run 3d apps or prime, lastly throw the ram into equasion once you found the max stable mobo fsb and cpu clock, eachtime you add something to the equasion you will likely have to downclock a tad.................


I totally understand what you mean, but if you would think that my chip does 4Ghz on only 1.42Vcore, then I (!) know for sure it can be 24/7 stable on 4.2Ghz ...
For 24/7 use I go till 1.55Vcore, and for now I don't now wich speed I can get on that Vcore, but I know for 95% sure it's higher then 4.2Ghz though ;) .

"I would attempt to boot at your auto settings again and use every utility possible to get the settings used by auto, etc voltages, timings, ram speed, and whatever other settings then try to weed out what settings allowed you to get there.........."

That's what I've tried, I could get till 470 x 7 on all AUTO settings... This was Prime95 stable for 5-6 hours, but when I tried 475 x 7 it would fail within 2 min...
So I know for sure there's is something small that has to be tweaked a little, but what can I do if I don't can read out what the mobo AUTO picks for himself :p: .


BTW, I'm now on 3.8Ghz with 1.36Vcore and he's only 40°C stressed, with a ambient of 18°C, so temps are no problem... Even NB is 37°C stressed with 1.65V right now...

[Spyrus]

@chew

funny how you say most who can pass PI can not run 3d apps or prime as I'm totally opposite. I can prime all day, run any program I want all day and my machine runs great but if I try PI at anything above 1m superpi will crash.

From my findings in order to test overall system from harder to easier:
1)Orthos/Prime blend
2)OCCT
3)New Games
4)3d Mark loops
5)Super pi 32m (one instance for every core)
6)wprime1024m
7)superpi32m
8)pifast
9)wprime32m
10)superpi1m (one instance for every core)
11)superpi1m

[chew*]

I'm using also the registered non-trail version :) .
I think I'm going to believe JoeBar that the P5E doesn't have the read-out's...





I totally understand what you mean, but if you would think that my chip does 4Ghz on only 1.42Vcore, then I (!) know for sure it can be 24/7 stable on 4.2Ghz ...
For 24/7 use I go till 1.55Vcore, and for now I don't now wich speed I can get on that Vcore, but I know for 95% sure it's higher then 4.2Ghz though ;) .

"I would attempt to boot at your auto settings again and use every utility possible to get the settings used by auto, etc voltages, timings, ram speed, and whatever other settings then try to weed out what settings allowed you to get there.........."

That's what I've tried, I could get till 470 x 7 on all AUTO settings... This was Prime95 stable for 5-6 hours, but when I tried 475 x 7 it would fail within 2 min...
So I know for sure there's is something small that has to be tweaked a little, but what can I do if I don't can read out what the mobo AUTO picks for himself :p: .


BTW, I'm now on 3.8Ghz with 1.36Vcore and he's only 40°C stressed, with a ambient of 18°C, so temps are no problem... Even NB is 37°C stressed with 1.65V right now...

475 is pushing it with a quad, from what ive read 450 is tough for some on this particular board, it has a FSB wall with quads. Use a higher multi. CPU PLL Volts and NB is likely your culprit, FYI with auto it over volts both NB voltage adjustment and a few other things. That would be a place to start. Its real simple what auto picks, set the settings that booted for you in auto, reboot, go back in bios, check your hardware manager for voltages. Write them down, then manually set them, I can tell you this much, what you set them at and what they read in hardware monitor are 2 totally seperate things. Just keep adjusting them till you match them.

Wish i had your temps, I only need 1.325 for 3.6g but under load i'm right on the line damn near 70C, need to upgrade my water cooling before i can use it. Still on air.

[Wolf2000me]

Super PI at 4.2g means just that you can do a pi at 4.2g, It DOES NOT mean your cpu can do 24/7 stable @ 4.2g............................


I 2nd this statement. At 3.8 Ghz (or above) I can game, bench for quite some time. In fact I haven't had a crash yet but when I try to prime the system crashes almost instantly. Usually it crashes before I set a SPPrime instance to every core. Not even an increase in vcore by a whole lot helps. I just cannot get it stable above 3.7ghz.

I could run 3.6 ghz at stock vcore while I need 1.41v vcore for 3.7 ghz. But even 1.6v makes one bit of difference and this is without attempting a high FSB (450+).
I'll post my bios settings when I'm back home. I'm at work now.

[Spyrus]

Have anyone noticed that when changing usb legacy support to auto from enabled
that pc hangs before loading windows and then it cannot boot after restart and need cmos?

[iadstudio]

I 2nd this statement. At 3.8 Ghz (or above) I can game, bench for quite some time. In fact I haven't had a crash yet but when I try to prime the system crashes almost instantly. Usually it crashes before I set a SPPrime instance to every core. Not even an increase in vcore by a whole lot helps. I just cannot get it stable above 3.7ghz.

I could run 3.6 ghz at stock vcore while I need 1.41v vcore for 3.7 ghz. But even 1.6v makes one bit of difference and this is without attempting a high FSB (450+).
I'll post my bios settings when I'm back home. I'm at work now.

Sounds like it's a board thing. I would relax the board timings and try again. Disable transaction booster and set to 2-3 just to see if it is stable.

[Wolf2000me]

Sounds like it's a board thing. I would relax the board timings and try again. Disable transaction booster and set to 2-3 just to see if it is stable.

I'll give it a shot, thanks. In the meantime here's my setup:



Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 412
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333Mhz
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 990Mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto (I always keep it below spec as it's junk)
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 42
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :
Write to Read Delay (S) :
Write to Read Delay (D) :
Read to Read Delay (S) :
Read to Read Delay (D) :
Write to Write Delay (S) :
Write to Write Delay (D) :
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong (set to light first of course )
Transaction Booster : Disabled (Relax 0)

CPU Voltage : 1.418v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.24
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.32
South Bridge Voltage : 1.12 (one 2xraptor raid, 2 HD, 1 DVDRW)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.6v

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration // Some extra info on these settings would be appreciated. What's their influence on performance and stability?
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Enabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

[Prodigys]

Okay, fast fast my problem once more.
I tried the same voltages you guys gave me but instead off 9 x 468 I tried 9 x 445. And it booted into Vista; I could run everything, but Prime95 freezed the system after 2 min of stressing...

The voltages you guys said for 9 x 468 :


Strap : 400 Mhz
PCI-e : 105 Mhz
RAM : 936 Mhz
Command Rate : 2T
Timings : 5-5-5-15
AI Clock : AUTO
Transaction Booster : Disabled (0)
PLL : 1.60
FSB : 1.50
RAM : 2.20
NB : 1.65
SB : 1.1
GTL CPU : 0.63x
GTL NB : 0.67x
SB 1.5V : AUTO

That same setup I used for 9 x 445 and still nothing :eh: .

Maybe a problem with my memory (4 x 1GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400 ?) .

[tommithy]

From my findings in order to test overall system from harder to easier:
1)Orthos/Prime blend
2)OCCT
3)New Games
4)3d Mark loops
5)Super pi 32m (one instance for every core)
6)wprime1024m
7)superpi32m
8)pifast
9)wprime32m
10)superpi1m (one instance for every core)
11)superpi1m

I'm 1-4 stable. No crashes, etc. Since those are the "hardest" to pass then I'd consider myself good to go. I don't really care about superpi as it seems it's really only used as a benchmark.

[iadstudio]

Okay, fast fast my problem once more.
I tried the same voltages you guys gave me but instead off 9 x 468 I tried 9 x 445. And it booted into Vista; I could run everything, but Prime95 freezed the system after 2 min of stressing...

The voltages you guys said for 9 x 468 :


Strap : 400 Mhz
PCI-e : 105 Mhz
RAM : 936 Mhz
Command Rate : 2T
Timings : 5-5-5-15
AI Clock : AUTO
Transaction Booster : Disabled (0)
PLL : 1.60
FSB : 1.50
RAM : 2.20
NB : 1.65
SB : 1.1
GTL CPU : 0.63x
GTL NB : 0.67x
SB 1.5V : AUTO

That same setup I used for 9 x 445 and still nothing :eh: .

Maybe a problem with my memory (4 x 1GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400 ?) .


Try:
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : DISABLED
Boost Level : 1 or 2
SB : 1.2
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Also, you should be able to bring your RAM voltage down with those stix. Are they Ballistic?

With DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED, Ai Clock Twister : light, Transaction Booster : DISABLED 1-2 if you boot and it's stable you know it was the board having trouble. Then you can worry about tightening the board latency and getting better clock for clock performance out of it. At least that's how I got to the higher FSB.

[Wolf2000me]

Sounds like it's a board thing. I would relax the board timings and try again. Disable transaction booster and set to 2-3 just to see if it is stable.

Set Relax level to 3 with a tad more northbridge voltage, no cigar. It crashes very soon in the same way at 1.41v to 1.47v. Didn't try higher as I'm never going to run it like that.

[S1mon-]

I can boot and work with my Quad at 475 FSB even with Performance level 8 (Disabled 0) but it requires some high voltage on the northbridge... Here a screen I took lately :

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/6171/pl8gd8.jpg

I think I was using 1,72V on the northbridge to acheive that and it wasn't stable (My PC froze after like 15 mins of regular chatting or internet usage)

[Prodigys]

Try:
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : DISABLED
Boost Level : 1 or 2
SB : 1.2
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Also, you should be able to bring your RAM voltage down with those stix. Are they Ballistic?

With DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED, Ai Clock Twister : light, Transaction Booster : DISABLED 1-2 if you boot and it's stable you know it was the board having trouble. Then you can worry about tightening the board latency and getting better clock for clock performance out of it. At least that's how I got to the higher FSB.

I will try it, I appreciate it more that you guys want to help me then that this board is going to work :p: .

About the ram, indeed they are Crucial Ballistix, I wanted to make sure it wasn't them holding me back, so realy relax timings with relative high VDimm would exclude that :) .

[rbsmontemor]

I can boot and work with my Quad at 475 FSB even with Performance level 8 (Disabled 0) but it requires some high voltage on the northbridge... Here a screen I took lately :

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/6171/pl8gd8.jpg

I think I was using 1,72V on the northbridge to acheive that and it wasn't stable (My PC froze after like 15 mins of regular chatting or internet usage)

Try to lower a bit the mem clock

Rbs.
:wave:

[ZenEffect]

just a quick q. would it be worth constructing a back plate from plexi glass for the waterblock (d-tek fuzion)? i notice that the motherboard bows a bit. also, would it help to lap the waterblock after ive already lapped the cpu?

i know these seem like stupid questions where the answer is yes, but i want some real world experience telling me yes and what i could possibly expect.

thanks in advance... and i sent off the wish list last night at 8 so im ready for another round today if you guys want to compile a list to be sent off to asus.

[Prodigys]

just a quick q. would it be worth constructing a back plate from plexi glass for the waterblock (d-tek fuzion)? i notice that the motherboard bows a bit. also, would it help to lap the waterblock after ive already lapped the cpu?

i know these seem like stupid questions where the answer is yes, but i want some real world experience telling me yes and what i could possibly expect.

thanks in advance... and i sent off the wish list last night at 8 so im ready for another round today if you guys want to compile a list to be sent off to asus.


For me it made a difference of 3-4°C on load with my quad...
I lapped the Fusion till grit 2000 and then polished it with thoothpaste and ketchup.

Yeah that works :p: . Also I applied a washer between the 2 black plastic holders of the Fusion, so there's no more leakage from intake to outtake without going trough the base... Also the nozzle's are good to use :) .

But I don't have them :( . Also my Q6600 is NOT lapped.

[WFO]

just a quick q. would it be worth constructing a back plate from plexi glass for the waterblock (d-tek fuzion)? i notice that the motherboard bows a bit. also, would it help to lap the waterblock after ive already lapped the cpu?

i know these seem like stupid questions where the answer is yes, but i want some real world experience telling me yes and what i could possibly expect.



Yes to the backplate. I used one from a Zalmon 9500. Before I had 7C spread between cores. Now all cores have less than a 2C difference and are usually 1C apart. :) Conventional wisdom is don't lap the D-Tek Fuzion. It was designed with a bow on purpose and that helps provide lower temps. I've read a few reports from people that say lapping helped. That one is a coin toss. I'd use nozzles without lapping.

Edit: You don't have to make a back plate. You can always buy one of these...

http://www.petrastechshop.com/dfuprha.html

[Prodigys]

Try:
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : DISABLED
Boost Level : 1 or 2
SB : 1.2
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Also, you should be able to bring your RAM voltage down with those stix. Are they Ballistic?

With DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED, Ai Clock Twister : light, Transaction Booster : DISABLED 1-2 if you boot and it's stable you know it was the board having trouble. Then you can worry about tightening the board latency and getting better clock for clock performance out of it. At least that's how I got to the higher FSB.


Tested and it ....................... doens't work :p: .
Pffff, I begin to believe that the mobo has stopped working properly :ROTF: .

[tommithy]

just a quick q. would it be worth constructing a back plate from plexi glass for the waterblock (d-tek fuzion)? i notice that the motherboard bows a bit. also, would it help to lap the waterblock after ive already lapped the cpu?

i know these seem like stupid questions where the answer is yes, but i want some real world experience telling me yes and what i could possibly expect.

thanks in advance... and i sent off the wish list last night at 8 so im ready for another round today if you guys want to compile a list to be sent off to asus.

Don't lap the waterblock. It's flat. If anything get the nozzle kit.

As for a backplate, you can get the D-Tek pro mount kit which comes with a backplate or I've heard that you can also use a thermalright 775 backplate. I have the Pro Mount kit myself and love it.

[iadstudio]

Tested and it ....................... doens't work :p: .
Pffff, I begin to believe that the mobo has stopped working properly :ROTF: .

Setting stuff to auto and jacking up the fsb will do that. ooh, well. :rolleyes:

[Krav]

Anyone tell me if this benchmark looks good or to slow etc

I dont really know what im looking for to see how well my memory is working.

Any tips would be appreciated

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5893/everestsp7.jpg

[ZenEffect]

Don't lap the waterblock. It's flat. If anything get the nozzle kit.

As for a backplate, you can get the D-Tek pro mount kit which comes with a backplate or I've heard that you can also use a thermalright 775 backplate. I have the Pro Mount kit myself and love it.

its not shiny and has a few scratches so a light lapping i think is in order

and as far as making a back plate vs buying/ordering one my logic behind that is
making one does not cost me anything and it will take an hour tops to fabricate vs the few day wait for one to come in. i am not a patient person by any means.

[iadstudio]

Anyone tell me if this benchmark looks good or to slow etc

I dont really know what im looking for to see how well my memory is working.

Any tips would be appreciated

It looks respectable depending on settings, but you'll have to at least post some settings in order for it to mean anything.

[nut311]

Anyone tell me if this benchmark looks good or to slow etc

I dont really know what im looking for to see how well my memory is working.

Any tips would be appreciated

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5893/everestsp7.jpg

Try TRD on 3-5

[Prodigys]

Setting stuff to auto and jacking up the fsb will do that. ooh, well. :rolleyes:

As far as I can see there where almost none AUTO settings used the last time I tried, I picked the settings you guys gave me, plus I wached closely what other ppl needed for some related speeds and made a comparsion...

So what you say is bs :) .


EDIT:

Look under me down here hahaha....
Almost all AUTO and it works :rofl: .

[Shoty]

my setting bios

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1080
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.31
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : AUTO
DRAM Voltage : 2.45V
FSB Termination Voltage : AUTO
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5


help me setting bios on RAM DDR2 1200mhz

I have got to memory corsai dominator 2x1gb ram 1066mhz


Thank

[Krav]

It looks respectable depending on settings, but you'll have to at least post some settings in order for it to mean anything.

My ram settings in bios are dram at 1066 5-5-5-18 2T with voltage of 2.14, cpu is at 333x9 ( will push more soon).


Try TRD on 3-5

Sorry for my noobness but what is that and how do i change it, from googling i found it means read delay is it one of the numbers the ram is set at? Still learning :(

[eSp!s0]

You can adjust TRD by setting the "Transaction Booster" settings in "Exteme Tweaker" menu in bios.

There you are able to set "TB" to "enabled" and choose a "boost level" from 0-7(0-3 some biosversions?) or to set "TB" to "disabled" and choose a "relax level" from 0-7(0-3 some biosversions).

"TB enabled" or "disabled" and each with "level 0" is stock TRD of the ram.

"TB enabled" "boost level 1" is stock TRD-1 (for example stock TRD is 7, then it is "7-1=6", lower is faster/6 is faster than 7).
"TB enabled" "boost level 2" is stock TRD-2 (7-2=5, stock TRD7) and so on...

"TB disabled" "relax level 1" is stock TRD+1 (7+1=1, stock TRD7, higher is slower/8 is slower than 7).
"TB disabled" "relax level 2" is stock TRD+2 (7+2=9, stock TRD7) and so on...

[Krav]

ahh ok thanks!

[Grnfinger]

This is my ram at 1147MHz

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 478
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1147
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15

The rest of ram settings are auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax level: 0


http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4300_1147ram.png

[Jaekae]

does these temps seem normal on my e8400 with a thermalright 120 ultra extreme cooler?

processor is clocked to 445x9 at vcore 1.29

cpuind. idle 35 , and load 55

core0 idle 44 load 65
core1 idle 45 load 65-66

i know i hav epretty bad airflow, but is the temps ok anyway or do i need to get some better flow?

and the north and south bridge is idling at 48-49 , is that bad?

[Grnfinger]

does these temps seem normal on my e8400 with a thermalright 120 ultra extreme cooler?

processor is clocked to 445x9 at vcore 1.29

cpuind. idle 35 , and load 55

core0 idle 44 load 65
core1 idle 45 load 65-66

i know i hav epretty bad airflow, but is the temps ok anyway or do i need to get some better flow?

and the north and south bridge is idling at 48-49 , is that bad?

There looking about right to me
I have mine 8400 at 4.3GHz with 1.38v and I idle at .....
Core1 28c ...full load 57c
Core2 30c ...full load 55c

others will disagree I'm sure, but I think the NB and SB could be a little cooler at idle

[Prodigys]

I got some info right here...

I wanted to run 3.8Ghz on my own settings instead off AUTO.

Now I run allmost the whole day with Prime95 on + gaming on the following:

CPU : 423 x 9 (3.8Ghz)
MEM : 507Mhz (4-4-4-12 tRD 7)

PLL : 1.56 V
NB : 1.51 V
FSB : 1.46 V
SB : 1.075 V
CPU GTL : .63x
NB GTL : .67x
SB 1.5V : 1.5 V

Strap 333Mhz
PCI-e 105Mhz
TB Disabled (0)


My qeustion was, can the board be unstable due off tohigh voltages ?
I mean, I used 1.65 V on NB for 445 FSB... And now only 1.51 for 423...
And the NB GTL can't help when I set it to .63 instead of .67 ?

[chew*]

Stability can be compromised based on NB temps but not voltages IMO, those pushing close to 47C on NB temps are very very close to the edge.

I think your going to find that this board just has a wall somewhere after 450 fsb with quads that induces instability.

I hit a wall with a celeron c2 rather low, 374 was max, would not do 375 even with the lowest multi. Yet 3.0g was stable....I'd like to say its bios related.

[eSp!s0]

I got some info right here...

I wanted to run 3.8Ghz on my own settings instead off AUTO.

Now I run allmost the whole day with Prime95 on + gaming on the following:

CPU : 423 x 9 (3.8Ghz)
MEM : 507Mhz (4-4-4-12 tRD 7)

PLL : 1.56 V
NB : 1.51 V
FSB : 1.46 V
SB : 1.075 V
CPU GTL : .63x
NB GTL : .67x
SB 1.5V : 1.5 V

Strap 333Mhz
PCI-e 105Mhz
TB Disabled (0)


My qeustion was, can the board be unstable due off tohigh voltages ?
I mean, I used 1.65 V on NB for 445 FSB... And now only 1.51 for 423...
And the NB GTL can't help when I set it to .63 instead of .67 ?

Yes it can! My 450x8 are only stable with NB 1,25V and VFSB 1,20V. Higher NB or VFSB voltage and system becomes unstable after long testtime.

[Eastcoasthandle]

Can you increase the dram frequency from 1066 to 1100MHz - 1200MHz without having to OC the E8400 past 3.6GHz?

[Prodigys]

Stability can be compromised based on NB temps but not voltages IMO, those pushing close to 47C on NB temps are very very close to the edge.

I think your going to find that this board just has a wall somewhere after 450 fsb with quads that induces instability.

I hit a wall with a celeron c2 rather low, 374 was max, would not do 375 even with the lowest multi. Yet 3.0g was stable....I'd like to say its bios related.

I hope it's a BIOS problem. I know I'm on the P5E instead off the Maximus, but the P5E thread is dead and the P5E with the Maximus is almost the same.
About the FSB wall, don't think I got one so low. I did a SuperPi 1M run on 468 x 9 with everything AUTO (back then :p: ). And it was running 100% good...

Also I did test the max FSB with all AUTO settings, and I could get 470 x 7 stable. Don't ask me what I can achieve when I set the voltages myself, but I think it can be higher then 470 ...

Anyway, I'm going to test a little more, and keep hoping for a better BIOS :yepp: .


Yes it can! My 450x8 are only stable with NB 1,25V and VFSB 1,20V. Higher NB or VFSB voltage and system becomes unstable after long testtime.

That's the same as I thought...
I can run 438 FSB with 1.51 vNB, and then 445 NOT with 1.65 vNB, so I think it's to much ...

Also one thing, more then 1.75V on PLL for 24/7 use is bad ?

EDIT:

I'm right now on 434 x 9 with the same voltages as I use for my 423 x 9 setup.
So far it is doing good....

CPU : 434 x 9 (3.9Ghz)
MEM : 520Mhz (4-4-4-12 tRD 7)

PLL : 1.56 V
NB : 1.51 V
FSB : 1.46 V
SB : 1.075 V
CPU GTL : .63x
NB GTL : .67x
SB 1.5V : 1.5 V

Strap 333Mhz
PCI-e 105Mhz
TB Disabled (0)

[Grnfinger]

Can you increase the dram frequency from 1066 to 1100MHz - 1200MHz without having to OC the E8400 past 3.6GHz?

Yes

8x450 on the 333 strap = 1081MHz
400 strap = 1199MHz

8.5x424 on the 400 strap = 1130MHz

[iTravis]

3.6Ghz keeps failing OCCT after couple mins. And whenever I set Transaction Booster to Disable or Enable, system won't boot. This is my settings for 3.5 OCCT stable so suggestions for 3.6Ghz please. :p:
BIOS 0907
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency :389
FSB Strap to North Bridge :400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-778
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.46v
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51v
DRAM Voltage : 2.10v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.5v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05v
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5v

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : ENABLED

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[Grnfinger]

3.6Ghz keeps failing OCCT after couple mins. And whenever I set Transaction Booster to Disable or Enable, system won't boot. This is my settings for 3.5 OCCT stable so suggestions for 3.6Ghz please. :p:
BIOS 0907
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency :389
FSB Strap to North Bridge :400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-778
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.46v
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51v
DRAM Voltage : 2.10v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.5v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05v
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5v

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : ENABLED

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

up your CPU Volts a tad and see if it takes longer to crap out.
are you running 4x1GB sticks?
you can also drop clock twister to moderate to see if its the ram, but I doubt that it is at the speed your running it.

I had better luck on the 8 multi with my quad 8x450 was a really nice clock for me. I had a hard time with the 9 multi to get 3.6GHz stable

[eSp!s0]

I hope it's a BIOS problem. I know I'm on the P5E instead off the Maximus, but the P5E thread is dead and the P5E with the Maximus is almost the same.
About the FSB wall, don't think I got one so low. I did a SuperPi 1M run on 468 x 9 with everything AUTO (back then :p: ). And it was running 100% good...

Also I did test the max FSB with all AUTO settings, and I could get 470 x 7 stable. Don't ask me what I can achieve when I set the voltages myself, but I think it can be higher then 470 ...

Anyway, I'm going to test a little more, and keep hoping for a better BIOS :yepp: .



That's the same as I thought...
I can run 438 FSB with 1.51 vNB, and then 445 NOT with 1.65 vNB, so I think it's to much ...

Also one thing, more then 1.75V on PLL for 24/7 use is bad ?

EDIT:

I'm right now on 434 x 9 with the same voltages as I use for my 423 x 9 setup.
So far it is doing good....

CPU : 434 x 9 (3.9Ghz)
MEM : 520Mhz (4-4-4-12 tRD 7)

PLL : 1.56 V
NB : 1.51 V
FSB : 1.46 V
SB : 1.075 V
CPU GTL : .63x
NB GTL : .67x
SB 1.5V : 1.5 V

Strap 333Mhz
PCI-e 105Mhz
TB Disabled (0)

1,75PLL is quiet a lot for 24/7. I would try to not to come above 1,70V for PLL. I am using "Auto" for PLL and it`s 1,68V in biosmonitor at 450x8 and the board already gives to much at "Auto".

[Prodigys]

1,75PLL is quiet a lot for 24/7. I would try to not to come above 1,70V for PLL. I am using "Auto" for PLL and it`s 1,68V in biosmonitor at 450x8 and the board already gives to much at "Auto".

Thnx, I will keep that in mind !

btw, I got a update, he gave a Prime95 error after 36 min on 434 x 9 with PLL on 1.56 and NB on 1.51, I upped it till 1.58 for PLL and 1.53 for NB, and now I'm still stable after 2 hours.

I must say, that sometimes WLM or other programs freeze, so I think it needs a BIT more V.

[awhir]

hey guys i just got a set of g.skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ,im wondering if anyone has any good bios settings for these ? and what would be the max volts for these ?

http://xtreview.com/images/gskill-1000pq21-F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ.jpg

[Sebacestmoi]

Hello,
I'm just starting with overclocking and I want to overclock my Q6600 and my RAM a little (3.2ghz and 900mhz or 1066mhz, I don't know). I don't want to make a big OC just a little for my games. Here is my config :

Motherboard : Maximus Formula BIOS 907
CPU : Intel Core Quad Q6600 Stepping G0
Fan : Default fan that come with the Q6600
Hard Disks : 3x Western Digital Raptor 10'000RPM RAID-0
GPU : Asus EN7800GTX 256Mo
RAM : 3x 1Go Apacer PC6400 800Mhz Timing 5-5-5-5-18
Sound Card : Creative X-Fi Extreme Gamer
Power Supplies :Antec Neo Power 500W

Can someone tell me some config for the BIOS for a good start???
Thanks in advance and sorry for my very very bad english

[OCam]

Here are my settings for 3.6ghz (400x9), 36 hours prime blend stable

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : auto
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 800
DRAM Command Rate : 1T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay :4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 10
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 35
Write Recovery Time : 4
Read to Precharge Time :4

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: enabled
Ai Clock Twister : strong
Transaction Booster : disabled (0)

CPU Voltage : 1.425
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.28
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10
Loadline Calibration : enable
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference :.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.6

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

I Have a Vid of 1.2875 and my ram wont go any higher with out dropping the timings to 5-5-5-15. I might get to ddr-1000 with those timings.

I am thinking I wont be able to break 3.7 without hitting temp issues on both cpu and northbridge.

[Grnfinger]

Hello,
I'm just starting with overclocking and I want to overclock my Q6600 and my RAM a little (3.2ghz and 900mhz or 1066mhz, I don't know). I don't want to make a big OC just a little for my games. Here is my config :

Motherboard : Maximus Formula BIOS 907
CPU : Intel Core Quad Q6600 Stepping G0
Fan : Default fan that come with the Q6600
Hard Disks : 3x Western Digital Raptor 10'000RPM RAID-0
GPU : Asus EN7800GTX 256Mo
RAM : 3x 1Go Apacer PC6400 800Mhz Timing 5-5-5-5-18
Sound Card : Creative X-Fi Extreme Gamer
Power Supplies :Antec Neo Power 500W

Can someone tell me some config for the BIOS for a good start???
Thanks in advance and sorry for my very very bad english

Try this for a start

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Enabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : whatever your cpu needs ( try 1.40 to start up it if it fails)
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Using stock cooling might not be a good plan, keep a real close eye on your cpu temps

[JacKz5o]

Very informative thread

[Eastcoasthandle]

Yes

8x450 on the 333 strap = 1081MHz
400 strap = 1199MHz

8.5x424 on the 400 strap = 1130MHz

Thanks, I was hoping I wouldn't have to do that. I've tried a few settings and still couldn't get anything higher then 1066MHz at a 9x multi.

[ElEctric_EyE]

Where's our new BIOS ASUS? With Nehalem coming out this year, means a major rework on the motherboard side. If ASUS leaves us Maximus Formula patrons hi and dry without a new BIOS by then, then I will for sure consider their competitor for future purchases.

[bummerboy]

Where's our new BIOS ASUS? With Nehalem coming out this year, means a major rework on the motherboard side. If ASUS leaves us Maximus Formula patrons hi and dry without a new BIOS by then, then I will for sure consider their competitor for future purchases.

hey dudes.. it's chinese new year here, long holiday + weekend. Boys at asus wont be working for another few days. So we've gotta wait more.

everyday i pray my maximus wont randomly reboot. sigh.

[Warboy]

Where's our new BIOS ASUS? With Nehalem coming out this year, means a major rework on the motherboard side. If ASUS leaves us Maximus Formula patrons hi and dry without a new BIOS by then, then I will for sure consider their competitor for future purchases.

Nehalem is a different socket.

[cliffy]

hey dudes.. it's chinese new year here, long holiday + weekend. Boys at asus wont be working for another few days. So we've gotta wait more.

everyday i pray my maximus wont randomly reboot. sigh.


I'm really hoping that we do get to see one before the end of the week though. I know its there holiday season and all but some of the "cheaper" Asus boards have already had new bios's this year. Lets hope ours will be something abit special

[fordf250]

I'm really hoping that we do get to see one before the end of the week though. I know its there holiday season and all but some of the "cheaper" Asus boards have already had new bios's this year. Lets hope ours will be something abit special

Why new bios?

[cliffy]

"Why new bios"???? I think those of us using the 8*** chips could really use one, i dont think the current offerings are any where near well enough optimised for these chips.

[iTravis]

up your CPU Volts a tad and see if it takes longer to crap out.
are you running 4x1GB sticks?
you can also drop clock twister to moderate to see if its the ram, but I doubt that it is at the speed your running it.

I had better luck on the 8 multi with my quad 8x450 was a really nice clock for me. I had a hard time with the 9 multi to get 3.6GHz stable

It still fails regardless of how much voltage I put on Vcore. I tried 8x450 as well and the same thing happened. I thought with the higher multi then it's easier than high FSB since you gotto OC your RAM like crazy and I doubt I can do that with 4x1GB sticks. I might try with the 333 strap and see if it can help. :(

[chew*]

Why new bios?

I have a DC celeron chip that can do 3.0g 100% stable and likely higher, fsb jams at exactly 375 regardless of multi/clockspeed........Yet the boards more than capable of 450 or better, thats just to round of a number for my taste, So yes it probably could do with a bios update.

[ElEctric_EyE]

Warboy;2763131']Nehalem is a different socket.

Yeah, I know, hence my "hi and dry" statement. Is maximus gonna be left in the dust? The Rampage BIOS is being updated, but the Maximus is being left in the dust. So Asus customers are supposed to still be "loyal"?

[fordf250]

"Why new bios"???? I think those of us using the 8*** chips could really use one, i dont think the current offerings are any where near well enough optimised for these chips.

The 8xxx cpus are not clocking that well on any mb are they?

PS. This mb was not made for them or they would run with any bios.

[Sources]

Hey guys, I just upgrade my P35 platinum which ran stable at 3.2G on my Q6600 to this Formula Maximus and I cant even get it to run stable at 3.0G.

My sig has my new system specs. Maybe I can get some suggestions on what to run the bios at.

Is this board better than my P35 platinum for OCing ?

[Talonman]

These are my current best BIOS 907 settings for 3.81GHz:

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 424
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-848MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.506v (BIOS)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56v (BIOS)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51v (BIOS)
DRAM Voltage : 1.80v (BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44v (BIOS)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05v (BIOS)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

Note: Our ram is different, so you will have to put your timings and DRAM Voltage in there...
Remember that the Maximus over-volts the DRAM by 0.12v's. Set it .12v's lower in the BIOS, than what your DRAM recomends for it's operational voltage.

My problem is, my DRAM is rated at 1.8v's, but the Maximus is putting 1.92v's on them.
There currently is a BIOS limitation issue with the Maximus that won't let you set the voltage lower than 1.8v's.
This makes it hard to use some of the newer low voltage DRAM that is out like my Corsair XMS2.
I hope ASUS is working on it.... It couldn't take too much programming to allow for us to use lower voltages on our DRAM.
Mabey the next release will just fix the DRAM overvolt problem, and I could really get my 1.80v's as set in the BIOS? :up:

Just over 1 hour of Prime95 at 3.8GHz using the above BIOS settings. Note the 1.92v's reading on my DIMM! :(
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/5362/run8ql4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[cstkl1]

okay ppl got a question what is this??
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=396292

[ZenEffect]

now testing with 1.432 volts. the difference of .05 volts was 10c on the hottest cores! same speed as in my sig, just different volts as ive adjusted things elsewhere for stability's sake. occt is going to run for an hour on cpu test only.

hope this works :yepp:

[Durkadurka]

I can run my 4GB of Ballistix Tracers at 1200Mhz 5,5,5,15 using the 907 Bios!
Can you please post your BIOS settings?
I have 4x1GB Ballistix 8500 and QX9650 (planning on running CPU 24/7 at 10x400fsb)

[tiesum]

Hi guys

Finally found time to play with my new E8400. I started by finding a high fsb. Therefore I used the settings of aonther member. 500FSB is stable. I run the CPU at safe settings (6 x 500) with auto-voltage on the CPU. For some reason this auto-setting puts the voltage at 1.432 (CPU-Z) isn't this a bit high???

When I raise the multiplier to 8 (so the CPU runs at 4GHz) and the system is not stable, can I be sure that the problem is the CPU (and voltage) because everything is stable at 6 x 500?

Last question. My NB temp is stressed 50 and Idle around 45. Is this acceptable?

Thanks!

[cadaveca]

okay ppl got a question what is this??


probably cpuPLL.

[Sources]

1GB, Ballistix Tracer 240-pin DIMM (with LEDs), DDR2 PC2-8500 memory module

I have 4 of these and I just noticed that 2 are double bank (with 2 rows of Led's) and 2 are single bank (with 1 row of Led's). Also that one pair run at 1.8v and 2.0v and the other pair run at 1.8v and 2.2v

Is this normal, why would they ship different modules for the same kits ?


EDIT: I guess it doesnt matter, I jsut contacted Crucial and they said that all 4 will perform the same and at 2.2v

[ante_ante]

Planing to change my X38 Quad GT for this board. I having a E8500, will that cpu work on this mobo ? Any chance to gain fsb around 550+ ??

[Spyrus]

It harder to get highest fsb with this mobo than your Quad GT.
The only reason to go to that mobo is if your Abit cannot work with
Ballistix at 600+MHz.

[Grnfinger]

Hi guys

Finally found time to play with my new E8400. I started by finding a high fsb. Therefore I used the settings of aonther member. 500FSB is stable. I run the CPU at safe settings (6 x 500) with auto-voltage on the CPU. For some reason this auto-setting puts the voltage at 1.432 (CPU-Z) isn't this a bit high???

When I raise the multiplier to 8 (so the CPU runs at 4GHz) and the system is not stable, can I be sure that the problem is the CPU (and voltage) because everything is stable at 6 x 500?

Last question. My NB temp is stressed 50 and Idle around 45. Is this acceptable?

Thanks!

That voltage is way to high for 3.0GHz
Your NB load temps are fine and aslong as your are stable the idle temp.. well not the best I have seen should be ok

[pazza316]

Anyone got 8gb ram running well on this board?

[CERO]

I got a very weird issue here, ever since I installed the E8500 ( it is now sold), my Ballistix PC8500 and G.SKill 8000CL5 4GBPQ, both cant run high speed. for example my Ballistix used to run stable on this board with 1130 5-5-4-9 @ 1.90v ( bios set)/ 1200 5-5-5-12 @ 1.98 ( bios set). Then After I was priming my E8500 for like 14 hours small ffts it was stable so I ran 3dmark06 and I got a instant freeze.. or Screen goes black or Pink lol. I was sure it was the mem, but what the heck, So I did HCI memtest , it keeps throwing errors, so I decided to put in my G.skill 8000 2x2GB( never really tested this kit before tho), but I cant even run @ 1040 5-5-5-15 @ 2.1?? at this point I thought it cant be the mem goes bad both sets. So I sticked my Ballistix @ the P5K deluxe run 1200mhz 5-5-5-12 @ Performance lvl 5 with 2.05v... and HCI memtest did 800% coverage without 1 single error... where as on the maximus it would keep throwing errors within secs. Whats going on? Did my memcontroller went flaky or my BIOS is corrupted?, it used to be stable ......

*edit I reflashed like 3 times already to 0903 and 0907 all didnt helped. ( CMOS clear button before every flash), or should I remove the battery aswell , for a "proper" CMOS clear?

[Prodigys]

I got a very weird issue here, ever since I installed the E8500 ( it is now sold), my Ballistix PC8500 and G.SKill 8000CL5 4GBPQ, both cant run high speed. for example my Ballistix used to run stable on this board with 1130 5-5-4-9 @ 1.90v ( bios set)/ 1200 5-5-5-12 @ 1.98 ( bios set). Then After I was priming my E8500 for like 14 hours small ffts it was stable so I ran 3dmark06 and I got a instant freeze.. or Screen goes black or Pink lol. I was sure it was the mem, but what the heck, So I did HCI memtest , it keeps throwing errors, so I decided to put in my G.skill 8000 2x2GB( never really tested this kit before tho), but I cant even run @ 1040 5-5-5-15 @ 2.1?? at this point I thought it cant be the mem goes bad both sets. So I sticked my Ballistix @ the P5K deluxe run 1200mhz 5-5-5-12 @ Performance lvl 5 with 2.05v... and HCI memtest did 800% coverage without 1 single error... where as on the maximus it would keep throwing errors within secs. Whats going on? Did my memcontroller went flaky or my BIOS is corrupted?, it used to be stable ......

*edit I reflashed like 3 times already to 0903 and 0907 all didnt helped. ( CMOS clear button before every flash), or should I remove the battery aswell , for a "proper" CMOS clear?


The G.SKill uses Elpida chips if I thought... So +1000Mhz on CL5 is nice ;) .

And about the Crucial ram, if you look on the Asus forum there are only problems with Crucial ram and this mobo so be patient and wait for a good bios :) .

[S1mon-]

The G.SKill uses Elpida chips if I thought... So +1000Mhz on CL5 is nice ;) .

And about the Crucial ram, if you look on the Asus forum there are only problems with Crucial ram and this mobo so be patient and wait for a good bios :) .

The G.Skill are using PowerChips IC, not Elpida.

[CERO]

The G.SKill uses Elpida chips if I thought... So +1000Mhz on CL5 is nice ;) .

And about the Crucial ram, if you look on the Asus forum there are only problems with Crucial ram and this mobo so be patient and wait for a good bios :) .

Uhmm , they were rock stable as I stated on the maximus , and few hours ago I tested on the Deluxe and it was stable, this isnt a BIOS version issue....

[Sources]

I set my mem voltage to 2.2v for my ballistix PC8500 and its showing 2.7v in Everest.

whats up with that ?

EDIT

PC just froze in Prime95 after 3 minutes - BLend

Cores temp 49/48/44/44
cpu volt 1.45
ram 2.7v
NB 1.5v
SB 1.09v

any ideas ?

[Viss]

Board overvolts vdimm but 2.20v in bios shouldnt be 2.7 real... Have you touched the dimms while running prime/orthos? Mine run rather hot even at 2.15vdimm with 2x92mm fans over them.

[icecpu]

I set my mem voltage to 2.2v for my ballistix PC8500 and its showing 2.7v in Everest.

whats up with that ?

EDIT

PC just froze in Prime95 after 3 minutes - BLend

Cores temp 49/48/44/44
cpu volt 1.45
ram 2.7v
NB 1.5v
SB 1.09v

any ideas ?


samething for me, the thing is I can't set it lower than v2.20, it won't boot hang at DET Dram. So I guess the Ballistix have to live with v2.27 for 24/7. Yes and the heatsink feel really hot when you touches

EDIT
I think you mean everest reading is v2.27 not v2.7 right

[Grnfinger]

I got a very weird issue here, ever since I installed the E8500 ( it is now sold), my Ballistix PC8500 and G.SKill 8000CL5 4GBPQ, both cant run high speed. for example my Ballistix used to run stable on this board with 1130 5-5-4-9 @ 1.90v ( bios set)/ 1200 5-5-5-12 @ 1.98 ( bios set). Then After I was priming my E8500 for like 14 hours small ffts it was stable so I ran 3dmark06 and I got a instant freeze.. or Screen goes black or Pink lol. I was sure it was the mem, but what the heck, So I did HCI memtest , it keeps throwing errors, so I decided to put in my G.skill 8000 2x2GB( never really tested this kit before tho), but I cant even run @ 1040 5-5-5-15 @ 2.1?? at this point I thought it cant be the mem goes bad both sets. So I sticked my Ballistix @ the P5K deluxe run 1200mhz 5-5-5-12 @ Performance lvl 5 with 2.05v... and HCI memtest did 800% coverage without 1 single error... where as on the maximus it would keep throwing errors within secs. Whats going on? Did my memcontroller went flaky or my BIOS is corrupted?, it used to be stable ......

*edit I reflashed like 3 times already to 0903 and 0907 all didnt helped. ( CMOS clear button before every flash), or should I remove the battery aswell , for a "proper" CMOS clear?

You sold your Wolfdale???

Did you try both white and blue slots and see if it errors out?
Also try different straps to eliminate a divider issue.
I hope you dont have to RMA your board that would be a shame but I know you want a new board so are you sure you didnt do this on purpose lol ;)

How does the ram do when everything set to stock speed and volts?
maybe the board is just pissed cause you put the quad back in, seriously tho try the stock test and see what happens

[CERO]

You sold your Wolfdale???

Did you try both white and blue slots and see if it errors out?
Also try different straps to eliminate a divider issue.
I hope you dont have to RMA your board that would be a shame but I know you want a new board so are you sure you didnt do this on purpose lol ;)

How does the ram do when everything set to stock speed and volts?
maybe the board is just pissed cause you put the quad back in, seriously tho try the stock test and see what happens

Hey m8, well it only will run like 1000mhz 5-5-5-15, but suddently it cant run at 1130 5-5-4-9 and 1200mhz , so I put the ballistix into my P5K deluxe 2day, and 1200mhz performance lvl 5 @5-5-5-12 with just 2.05v, 800 % coverage HCI memtest. whereas it fails within 40% @ the maximus, I just dont get this man doesnt make sense at all lol, yea m8 I sold the E8500, with no money loss, I missed my 2 extra cores. I tried also different straps and so on.

Same goes for my G.skills, I havent tested this kit yet on the P5k deluxe, but I have yet to see that any kit cant do 1051mhz 5-5-5-15 with 2.1v..... I think either my BIOS is corrupted in some way ( even clear cmos / reflash wont help), or my memory controller became flakey:(.

* aw m8, remmeber I had the "prime issue"? Well i stick in my old Q6600 g0 from my P5K deluxe and ques what I upped vcore 1.50v+ still prime would load 99%, where as the newer g0, wont load pass 1.40vcore, However I stack in that newer g0 into my P5K deluxe, there I also set vcore 1.50v+ and there it will load 99%..... So it was only on this particular board, really cant explain that lol:D

[Sources]

Ya I'm really not liking this board :down: and might pop my P35 platinum back in. It ran flawless at 3.0-3.4 on air, and now I have a kick ass water system and can't even use it with this Formula

[JohnMike]

... Then After I was priming my E8500 for like 14 hours small ffts it was stable so I ran 3dmark06 and I got a instant freeze.. or Screen goes black or Pink lol....

I have the same issue for some time and i know at least 3 friends of mine with the same problem with this board. One thing we have in comum is a 0.45nm CPU, me and my friends have QX9650 and you a E8500...:confused:

Tryed everything, playing around for 3 weeks with diferent settings and the black/green/purple/red screen is random, can be without any issue for 2,3 or 4 days, sometimes in a matter of hours...:mad:

I have a P5E3 Dlx on my desk ready to test and replace my Formula...

[kup]

Mc2k, would you say the P5K (or in my case a Blitz Formula) is a better board than the Maximus Formula? How does the FSB overclock on your P5K compare to you Maximus?

[iTravis]

At this point, I think my RAM started to crap out when I reach 3.6Ghz (both 9x400 or 8x450) or above. The problem is I'm still running 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix so I think I might switch to 2x2GB instead. I don't wanna give up the LED on the RAM though and that's one thing keep holding me off from switching to another RAM. :D Any recommendations for a best set of 2x2GB?
PC6400 or PC8500?

[Sources]

Board overvolts vdimm but 2.20v in bios shouldnt be 2.7 real... Have you touched the dimms while running prime/orthos? Mine run rather hot even at 2.15vdimm with 2x92mm fans over them.

Ya they are HOT !, but I have no fan on them, I might get a RAM fan

[Sources]

well no patience for this piece of crap, going back to my P35.. bummer was hoping it would be more stable without having to mess around with too many settings.

[Sources]

Hmmmm one more attempt, since you mention it may be the crucial causing the problem, even when I'm trying to run them stock. I have a box of

OCZ DDR2 PC2-6400 / 800MHz / Gold Edition / 8GB Quad Kit (4x2GB)

that I will try to run right now first and see if that changes anything. Will post results.

[Sources]

Well this blows, its seems so far the prob may be the crucial RAM, my OCz is running Prime at 3.6 right now for the last 20 minutes at 1.48v on the CPU and 2.0 on the ram


LoL@ quad posting... blame it on the CPU

[Warboy]

OMG Quad-Posting.

[Sources]

Wow 3.81 with 1.5v and only getting those temps.. NICE !



These are my current best BIOS 907 settings for 3.81GHz:

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 424
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-848MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.506v (BIOS)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56v (BIOS)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51v (BIOS)
DRAM Voltage : 1.80v (BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44v (BIOS)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05v (BIOS)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

Note: Our ram is different, so you will have to put your timings and DRAM Voltage in there...
Remember that the Maximus over-volts the DRAM by 0.12v's. Set it .12v's lower in the BIOS, than what your DRAM recomends for it's operational voltage.

My problem is, my DRAM is rated at 1.8v's, but the Maximus is putting 1.92v's on them.
There currently is a BIOS limitation issue with the Maximus that won't let you set the voltage lower than 1.8v's.
This makes it hard to use some of the newer low voltage DRAM that is out like my Corsair XMS2.
I hope ASUS is working on it.... It couldn't take too much programming to allow for us to use lower voltages on our DRAM.
Mabey the next release will just fix the DRAM overvolt problem, and I could really get my 1.80v's as set in the BIOS? :up:

Just over 1 hour of Prime95 at 3.8GHz using the above BIOS settings. Note the 1.92v's reading on my DIMM! :(
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/5362/run8ql4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Virous]

I took the 2 wd raptor 150gigs out of my pc, did a fresh 100% format. Disable Jmicron and it still comes up with the "Cannot Find Master IDE HDD" did i miss something? Going to flash to 907 tonight. But anything else i can do to fix it. It is a seagate barracuda 7200.11 500gb hdd atm.

[CERO]

I have the same issue for some time and i know at least 3 friends of mine with the same problem with this board. One thing we have in comum is a 0.45nm CPU, me and my friends have QX9650 and you a E8500...:confused:

Tryed everything, playing around for 3 weeks with diferent settings and the black/green/purple/red screen is random, can be without any issue for 2,3 or 4 days, sometimes in a matter of hours...:mad:

I have a P5E3 Dlx on my desk ready to test and replace my Formula...

Hey m8 I am "glad" that I am not the only one getting this, this IS right after I popped in the E8500, and test it for 4 days, and after I thought I was done, I wanted to do some 3dmark, and what the heck the mobo suddently cant handle high ram clocks..... even now the E8500 is sold and popped back my Q6600 in....and I confirmed yesterday on the Deluxe they are doing just fine like they were doing on the maximus a week ago...this board is really getting annoying, first the prime issue I got with 1 of my Q6600 g0 while the other got no prob. However that cpu works flawless on the delux so...

[Talonman]

Wow 3.81 with 1.5v and only getting those temps.. NICE !

Yes, and thanks! We are currently looking for more Q6600 temps in the Water Cooled section of the board. :)

The Un-Official Q6600 Chest Pounding Proves Nothing Water Cooled Temp Thread!
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=176531

I should tell you though that more fine tuning was done on my every day 3.8GHz Bios settings.

I primed for 2 hours using my above 3.8GHz settings, and encountered an error on 1 core. My guess was it probably was just Core voltage issue, but remember when Priming 3.9GHz I needed a wee bit more CPU PLL voltage too.

Allot of the boy's are running more NB voltage than me and my 1.51v's, so I took that up a notch too to 1.55V's.

I also moved my South bridge voltage from 1.05v's to 1.075v's for no good reason. :)

I cutt Prime95 loose again to see if my 3.8GHz would still have an error in 2 hours. My result was an error free 4 hour run, and me adopting these new settings.

My 4hour error free run using my 3.8GHz settings. Room temp was a brisk 55°F in my cold Ohio basement: :p:
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/8839/run10yv4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

These are my current best BIOS 907 settings for 3.81GHz:

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 424
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-848MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.5120v (BIOS)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58v (BIOS)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55v (BIOS)
DRAM Voltage : 1.80v (BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44v (BIOS)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075v (BIOS)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

[CERO]

altho u are on water very nice temps on such vcore

[Sources]

Are you running a water block on the SB also ?
How did you remove the stock water cooling from the bridges?

My damn NB and SB run at 45-50 temp with 1.36v and 1.06v

WHyyyyyyy ?


Edit.. Lol funny thing, I tried to remove my Formula and switch back to my P35 and the water cooling CPU brace is adhesive stuck on the back of the Formula board. DOH !
Can I remove it somehow without ruining my mobo? Anyone ?



Yes, and thanks! We are currently looking for more Q6600 temps in the Water Cooled section of the board. :)

The Un-Official Q6600 Chest Pounding Proves Nothing Water Cooled Temp Thread!
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=176531

I should tell you though that more fine tuning was done on my every day 3.8GHz Bios settings.

I primed for 2 hours using my above 3.8GHz settings, and encountered an error on 1 core. My guess was it probably was just Core voltage issue, but remember when Priming 3.9GHz I needed a wee bit more CPU PLL voltage too.

Allot of the boy's are running more NB voltage than me and my 1.51v's, so I took that up a notch too to 1.55V's.

I also moved my South bridge voltage from 1.05v's to 1.075v's for no good reason. :)

I cutt Prime95 loose again to see if my 3.8GHz would still have an error in 2 hours. My result was an error free 4 hour run, and me adopting these new settings.

[Talonman]

Thanks guys!! :)

It took a good 10 minutes with the hair dryer warming the heat sink, before the stock goop let me gently wiggle the ROG cooling free.
Remove the 4 screws and all pins before starting.
Never pull up! Just gently wiggle side to side. It will start to move when it's ready....
Ware a glove as the sink get's hot with hair dryer heat blowing on it.
Mine was coaxed off successfully.
Try to avoid over heating the mobo if possible. Mabey use a towel as a heat shield for the chips?
The stock goop will be semi-molten when it slides free. It is the ideal time to use some acetone to clean the rest off.

SB is a heat sink and dedicated fan. I like to call it my PowerBridge cooling. ;)
My build details.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=160606 (Page 5 for SB info)

[tommithy]

Edit.. Lol funny thing, I tried to remove my Formula and switch back to my P35 and the water cooling CPU brace is adhesive stuck on the back of the Formula board. DOH !
Can I remove it somehow without ruining my mobo? Anyone ?

A little heat from a hairdryer should soften the adhesive enough to remove the backplate.

[fordf250]

Can we not just flash this mb with the x48 bios, are they not the same mb with a higher binned chipset?

[Talonman]

My damn NB and SB run at 45-50 temp with 1.36v and 1.06v

WHyyyyyyy ?

If you twisted my arm, I would have to say the block is a big part, and a strong RAD. ;)
I have already mentioned my cool basement. Big advantage there too.

It's this:

just figured id point this out, look at how little contact area the TIM is making to the stock NB heatpipe cooler

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f9/laserskys/Picture078.jpg

Verses that.... Your call. ;)
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3924/pic108og8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Sources]

I'm ordering chipset blocks as we speak, WC for NB and just a heat sink for the SB. I might get the Thermalright HR-09S Slanted Motherboard MOSFET Cooler also.



If you twisted my arm, I would have to say the block is a big part, and a strong RAD. ;)
I have already mentioned my cool basement. Big advantage there too.

It's this:


Verses that.... Your call. ;)

[Talonman]

You know it all sounds like wise choices to me. ;)

[Zucker2k]

I took the 2 wd raptor 150gigs out of my pc, did a fresh 100% format. Disable Jmicron and it still comes up with the "Cannot Find Master IDE HDD" did i miss something? Going to flash to 907 tonight. But anything else i can do to fix it. It is a seagate barracuda 7200.11 500gb hdd atm.

Send them to me, I'll test them for ya :) Sometimes, you need to the use the data lifeguard tools to "prepare" the drives for OS installation. If you still have problems, then I'll troubleshoot the various drive settings, as well as "boot order" in the bios.

[awhir]

hi guys any one got any good setting for g.skill F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ

there a 2x2gb kit .

[CERO]

Mc2k, would you say the P5K (or in my case a Blitz Formula) is a better board than the Maximus Formula? How does the FSB overclock on your P5K compare to you Maximus?

Dear kup, I talked with Leeghoofd, he got a P5K deluxe aswell, like I do. I had 0 problems from the day I bought the P5K deluxe same goes for leefhoofd. I didnt test the p5K deluxe and maximus head on head, but leeghoofd get lower 3dmarkscores on the maximus then on the deluxe.
He aswell confirmed there is really NO advantage going from the P5K deluxe to the maximus.

And I see u got the Blitz, I never had the chance to test that board, but leeghoofd did he said that the Blitz forumla was the best out the 3 and that can be said, I would say if u are not happy with your maximus, give your blitz a second chance

* edit: I will test tomorrow my G.Skill 8000CL5 4GBPQ on my Deluxe, if I can run 1066/1080 5-5-5-15/12 up to 2.1v, then I am 100% sure my Maximus crapped out and need to be dumped:(, already confirmed with my Crucial Tracers already, as I already requested the RMA and had already a RMA ticket, lucky I didnt RMA it before testing it on the Deluxe, would be pita if I will get a pair that are worser then the samples I got now.

[Grnfinger]

n00b question, so dont flame me

Intel Quad Core Q6600 ES (Engineering Sample) with Unlocked Multiplier

Is there such a thing and is it worth buying?
And if so what would be a max price tag?

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/fbb7_1.jpg

[Sources]

Its garbage, just ship it to me, I will toss it out for ya =)



n00b question, so dont flame me

Intel Quad Core Q6600 ES (Engineering Sample) with Unlocked Multiplier

Is there such a thing and is it worth buying?
And if so what would be a max price tag?

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/fbb7_1.jpg

[Talonman]

:rofl: I don't know the difference, but it sounds like a keeper to me after that... :D

I like the word CONFIDENTIAL on it ...oooooooohhh
James Bond stuff... That's the 007 model.
I would hate to lapp that one unless CoreTemp would correctly identify it as Special Issue.

[Sources]

Ok gang I'm gonna up some pics here in a few... stay tuned. My RIG of course.

[rbsmontemor]

I just don't know what to do. Thinking about buy another board...

This thing just can't run my Tracers @ 1200Mhz...with any divider, any FSB...nothing. 1200Mhz 5-5-4-12 @ 2.1v on P5K Deluxe, same on GA-X38-DQ6, IP35 PRO, P35 T2R , etc..

But I can't reach DDR1100+ with minimum stability, when it boots...tried today with my Q6600, E6300ES, E8400 and nothing. Tried the templates on first page...man, I just tried everything today and nothing.

Any advice? I'll sell this POS tomorrow....

And sorry for the really bad english, I'm just VERY angry now with this :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing board....

Rbs.

[Talonman]

I take it the 5-5-4-12 are exactly what the Tracers are rated at?

opps just looked, they are 5-5-5-15 by the book.

Mine are 5-5-5-18 and havent messed with that yet..
My BIOS is set that way too.

Have you tried 5-5-5-15 yet?

opps, I think you did. I might be talking above outta my league!
I better take a pass here. :p:

[rbsmontemor]

They are 5-5-5-15 1066. But it doesn't matter...all other motherboards I've tested can do DDR1200 with this ram, easy.

But the maximus not.

[Talonman]

I hear the next BIOS is memory related? Mabey then?

How fast in GHz can you currently run using that ram? Are you getting the 3.8GHz in your sig?
If so thats good, but I am just starting to read about memory settings now...
I don't know much on the matter today.. ;)
I am working on changing that.

Like question: should I be trying to lower the 18 to see if my computer cares? :)
Lower = faster correct?
With my current settings, my DDR2 800MHz ram, is running at 848MHz, and currently is being over-volted by 0.12v, which I don't get a vote on.
It's 1.8v ram, and set that way in the BIOS too. There is no lower setting available for me to select.
They are already getting some extra juce, should I be expecting them to run faster too? 1.8v ram has a bad reputation in general for being good OC'ers correct?
It's just that I have heard that higher voltage ram OC's better? I don't know if it is true or not?
I would welcome any advice, or opinions on the matter. :)
Note: I wouldn't want to run my ram on the raggid edge, if it would have an exceptionally high fatality rate toward low voltage ram. :)
I am currenty down to 1 2GB stick, and would hate to loose it. ;)

[Sources]

I have the same problem as rbsmontemor. My RAM sucks on this board, but was rock solid on my P35 platinum. This BIOS coming better fix it or this board is in the trash and ASUS products can kiss my ass, I gave them a try coming back to this board, but it will be last if they dont have better support.

EDIT here are my pics

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/450/p2120048mo2.th.jpg (http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p2120048mo2.jpg)
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8868/p2120047de0.th.jpg (http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p2120047de0.jpg)
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6136/p2120045eq1.th.jpg (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p2120045eq1.jpg)
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2756/p2120044cb8.th.jpg (http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p2120044cb8.jpg)
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/157/p2120043vo5.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p2120043vo5.jpg)
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/715/p2120051az3.th.jpg (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p2120051az3.jpg)
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3350/p2120052rc7.th.jpg (http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p2120052rc7.jpg)
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6636/p2120053ql9.th.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p2120053ql9.jpg)
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1151/p2120054se0.th.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p2120054se0.jpg)
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/963/p2120042ym9.th.jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p2120042ym9.jpg)
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/8421/p2120050vy3.th.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p2120050vy3.jpg)
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6730/p2120049tt6.th.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p2120049tt6.jpg)
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3585/p2120041re3.th.jpg (http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p2120041re3.jpg)

[Talonman]

Impressive! The led's on the RAM do look good. :p:

I dig the front view with the blue lights too.

Good job man. :up:

[Zucker2k]

I just don't know what to do. Thinking about buy another board...

This thing just can't run my Tracers @ 1200Mhz...with any divider, any FSB...nothing. 1200Mhz 5-5-4-12 @ 2.1v on P5K Deluxe, same on GA-X38-DQ6, IP35 PRO, P35 T2R , etc..

But I can't reach DDR1100+ with minimum stability, when it boots...tried today with my Q6600, E6300ES, E8400 and nothing. Tried the templates on first page...man, I just tried everything today and nothing.

Any advice? I'll sell this POS tomorrow....

And sorry for the really bad english, I'm just VERY angry now with this :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing board....

Rbs.

What is your current settings?

Strap=
fsb=

[Sources]

Hey thanks a lot. When my NB and SB heat sinks arrive I will take some pics of inside the case and the mobo after I mod it. Hope the hair dryer works to remove NB good.



Impressive! The led's on the RAM do look good. :p:

I dig the front view with the blue lights too.

Good job man. :up:

[iadstudio]

I've got my tracers at 1100 5-5-5-15 stable on this board and I've had them at 1130 5-5-5-15 on this board. I think the lack of advanced board timing control really hurts this board. I can get higher clocks stable, but performance really suffers because of lack of board latency control.

I've got the "new" Ballistix, so I think my clocks could be limited by the RAMs ability.

[rbsmontemor]

What is your current settings?


Strap= 333
fsb= 500

NO BOOT

Strap= 400
fsb= 450

NO BOOT

Strap= 266 OR 333
fsb= 400

NO BOOT

All settings before can run stable 1:1 or with rams at <DDR1100.

I know I tried all kinds of timings, TDR, voltages, 3 different CPUs...and another pair of rams that can run @ DDR1200+ too.

[Sources]

what voltage and please post your full setting for bios for this please please... with the template on the first page post.



I've got my tracers at 1100 5-5-5-15 stable on this board and I've had them at 1130 5-5-5-15 on this board. I think the lack of advanced board timing control really hurts this board. I can get higher clocks stable, but performance really suffers because of lack of board latency control.

I've got the "new" Ballistix, so I think my clocks could be limited by the RAMs ability.

[Talonman]

Hey thanks a lot. When my NB and SB heat sinks arrive I will take some pics of inside the case and the mobo after I mod it. Hope the hair dryer works to remove NB good.

Me too buddy! I wish it wasen't such a pain, but there is a reward on the other side.

Make sure you stop by this thread to post about all your water cooling adventures with the Maximus, and you aftermarket blocks:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=162085

[Zucker2k]

Strap= 333
fsb= 500

NO BOOT

Strap= 400
fsb= 450

NO BOOT

Strap= 266 OR 333
fsb= 400

NO BOOT

All settings before can run stable 1:1 or with rams at <DDR1100.

I know I tried all kinds of timings, TDR, voltages, 3 different CPUs...and another pair of rams that can run @ DDR1200+ too.

OK, IT HAS BEEN SAID SEVERAL TIMES - ONCE YOU HIT NEAR 500 FSB ON THE 333 STRAP, YOU HAVE TO DISABLE TRANSACTION BOOSTER -1.

[rbsmontemor]

OK, IT HAS BEEN SAID SEVERAL TIMES - ONCE YOU HIT NEAR 500 FSB ON THE 333 STRAP, YOU HAVE TO DISABLE TRANSACTION BOOSTER -1.


-1
-2
-3
-5
-7

NO BOOT.

Caps off please.

I'm not a newbie...when I say that I tried everything, means that i tried every single timing and voltage on this mobo.

Anyway...if helps:


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9x/8x/7x
FSB Frequency : 423/450/500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400/400/333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1140 / 1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 42
Write Recovery Time : 5
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : -1, -2, -3, -4, -5, -6, -7, nothing works

CPU Voltage : 1.20-1.6X
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO-1.80
North Bridge Voltage : AUTO-1.75
DRAM Voltage : 2.20v (needs 2.05 to be stable on all other mobos..)
FSB Termination Voltage : AUTO-1.80
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO-1.20
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : .63
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5-1.6

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enable

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9 / 8 / 7
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

Rbs.
:shakes:

[ZenEffect]

Strap= 333
fsb= 500

NO BOOT

Strap= 400
fsb= 450

NO BOOT

Strap= 266 OR 333
fsb= 400

NO BOOT

All settings before can run stable 1:1 or with rams at <DDR1100.

I know I tried all kinds of timings, TDR, voltages, 3 different CPUs...and another pair of rams that can run @ DDR1200+ too.

RMA TIME:cool:
sorry in advance for the caps

[iadstudio]

what voltage and please post your full setting for bios for this please please... with the template on the first page post.

I'm doing this from memory, but I know my settings pretty well.

400 strap settings worked too, along with other configs, but these settings gave me the best performance. I'm looking forward to getting a chip on this that requires less voltage so I can really push this board.


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 460
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: 1104
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: enable
Ai Clock Twister : enable
Transaction Booster : disable (0)

CPU Voltage : 1.66
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.65
North Bridge Voltage : 1.52
DRAM Voltage : 2.14v (2.19v actual)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.58v (actual, don't remember what I set for this)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.15
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : .63
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enable

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: enabled
Legacy USB Support : enable

[iadstudio]

-1
-2
-3
-5
-7

NO BOOT.

Caps off please.

I'm not a newbie...when I say that I tried everything, means that i tried every single timing and voltage on this mobo.

Anyway...if helps:

Rbs.
:shakes:

looks like you had some pretty high voltage on this mobo at times. Wouldn't be surprised if it's fried. IF it makes you feel better, this is my third maximus formula. Firs two were defective, this one does things the first two didn't even come close to.

[atomicvai]

I just picked up a Maximus Formula, but it seems to be running weird. I have tried installing Vista 32 bit and Vista 64 bit but I get the same issue. When I load something like Rivatuner or Everest etc it take about 30-45 seconds before it actually loads the program (firefox loads instantly)... this is usually after right after bootup... like something is just clogging up the system. Doesn't matter how I clock the board etc, factory settings do this.

Running
Q6600
2x2gb OCZ PC6400
Enermax 650watt
Gt8800
2 x 250gb RAID 0

It never did this with my P5W-DH that I just replaced... is this something that just happens with this board, or should I get it replaced? It's flashed with latest bios etc. Any help would be appreciated, since I have a limited time to just take the board back for a swap.

[iadstudio]

Settng on ths board are crazy. Getting stable at even stock speeds can be an issue some times. However, my experience is that there are some bad boards out there. 2 out of 3 for me.

[atomicvai]

Yeah that's what I was afraid of... it's that uncertainty of "what if" it's a bad board and I wait too long trying to figure it out.

In regards to those loading issues... once that 30-45 secs passes all those types of progs (that access hardware I guess?) load instantly... and windows doesn't feel slow or anything, in fact it loads quite quickly...

Off topic... thinking of upgrading ram for something faster... 4x1gb or 2x2gb a better way? I see very few 2x2gb sets out there at higher speeds.

[Talonman]

I just picked up a Maximus Formula, but it seems to be running weird. I have tried installing Vista 32 bit and Vista 64 bit but I get the same issue. When I load something like Rivatuner or Everest etc it take about 30-45 seconds before it actually loads the program (firefox loads instantly)... this is usually after right after bootup... like something is just clogging up the system. Doesn't matter how I clock the board etc, factory settings do this.

Running
Q6600
2x2gb OCZ PC6400
Enermax 650watt
Gt8800
2 x 250gb RAID 0

It never did this with my P5W-DH that I just replaced... is this something that just happens with this board, or should I get it replaced? It's flashed with latest bios etc. Any help would be appreciated, since I have a limited time to just take the board back for a swap.

I have the same issue. Apon any re-boot, after the desktop appears, the break is in hard for 60 seconds or so. My connection to road runner keeps the red X even though the modem is fully ready. No program will launch. I wait it out and the system seemes to give up on something it wanted to do bad. All 4 cores jump to action, disk drive begins to access, modem connection kicks in too. The system returnes to it's speedy normal self.

I have looked in Device Manager, but find nothing that is !'ed.

I know the system is trying to do something for the first 60 seconds when the desktop appears, that runs with such a high priority, it stops all other system activity. Only when Vista gives up on the idea (what-ever it is) does the system allow any programs to launch.

I have just been waiting it out on bootups, and scratching my head mostly.

[iadstudio]

soemtimes Vista needs to load a few times before it acts right. does the problem persist even after you have powered down after an being in the OS for a bit?

the boot-up tie could be related to how you power down, or not.

[Talonman]

It happens on every single re-boot, the exact same way.

Everest won't launch, CPU-Z won't launch... No error, just no responce when when double clicking the icon, other than an hour glass mouse pointer, until the the system decides it is ready to move.

[Raver]

This is happeneing to me too and I think it's after a couple of BSOD's during overclocking, especially if you had a memory dump.

I'm going to reinstall tomorrow and see if the OS load/delay dissapears.

XP was tougher, it could handle many BSOD's and memory dumps, but Vista is more sensitive.

[iadstudio]

This is happeneing to me too and I think it's after a couple of BSOD's during overclocking, especially if you had a memory dump.

I'm going to reinstall tomorrow and see if the OS load/delay dissapears.

XP was tougher, it could handle many BSOD's and memory dumps, but Vista is more sensitive.

I agree. my BSOD symptom is delayed USB detection but my boots have been fine. I'm just not into reinstalling Vista anytime soon.

[Virous]

Send them to me, I'll test them for ya :) Sometimes, you need to the use the data lifeguard tools to "prepare" the drives for OS installation. If you still have problems, then I'll troubleshoot the various drive settings, as well as "boot order" in the bios.

I took out the WD's cause one was making a Horrid noise. Sounded like sand in a bearing. Anywho a friend setup the raid for me and now im just using 1 500gb sata HDD with the Jmicron disable it says
"cannot find master IDE HDD" hit f1 to resume and system boots. just a bit annoying is there any way around it?

i have sata mode to enhance ide, and SMART monitoring disabled.

[CERO]

They are 5-5-5-15 1066. But it doesn't matter...all other motherboards I've tested can do DDR1200 with this ram, easy.

But the maximus not.

Just check few post above ya I got exactly same prob bro, except they used to work on this board lol, but all of a sudden they didnt work after I changed the cpu(E8500), and did a bios flash. @ 1200mhz or 1130 with 5-5-4-9, without upping some big notches of volts and 1200 up to 2.2v didnt work, and I stack them in @ the p5k deluxe, they suddently did work lol 1200mhz 2.05v 5-5-5-12 with performance lvl5. Same goes for my G.skill 8000CL5 4GBPQ, cant even get it stable @ 1040 5-5-5-15 up to 2.1v which is ridiculous.

[Kondik]

Just a quick question does it have any J Micron RAID chip ? Or for RAID 0 i need to use the ICH9R .. Thanks for quick response. And is the ICH9R Good or is the 363 J Micron better .. i need a MOBO that can manage RAID 0 with 2 Raptors and had DQ6 [ RMAed and the're nowhere to get , gigabyte pulled them from the market thanks to X48 ]

[cuke2u]

Hi, the jmicron doesn't do raid with this motherboard, only the ICH9R does and it is good enough, imho...
Chris

[Talonman]

I would like to make 1 correction about our 'delay' problem.

When the desktop appears the HD does continue to read. I had stated earlier that that was stopping too. It does not. It is 90 seconds before my internet connect gets made, and I am able to launch any programs.

I have had a few BSOD's chaseing 4.0GHz! That could be it?

[atomicvai]

My delays are with a fresh install of Vista 32 or 64, so it's not from shutdowns etc... does it from the very first boot. I don't show any core action though while the delay is there (well minimal if any), but get the same no-response hourglass type thing. I also get the red X through my network icon for quite a while even though I have connectivity. I'm going to through XP on after work today and see if I get the delay in XP as well.

Thanks for the responses, at least I know it's not just me... but still in the back of my head wondering if it's the board since not everyone experiences this.

[atomicvai]

I should mention though that as far as pushing the board goes, I can achieve much higher overclocks on the board than my previous P5W-DH, though my memory "reads" slower but "copy's" faster in synth bench's... that normal for the x38?

[WFO]

I have the same issue. Apon any re-boot, after the desktop appears, the break is in hard for 60 seconds or so. My connection to road runner keeps the red X even though the modem is fully ready. No program will launch. I wait it out and the system seemes to give up on something it wanted to do bad. All 4 cores jump to action, disk drive begins to access, modem connection kicks in too. The system returnes to it's speedy normal self.

I have looked in Device Manager, but find nothing that is !'ed.

I know the system is trying to do something for the first 60 seconds when the desktop appears, that runs with such a high priority, it stops all other system activity. Only when Vista gives up on the idea (what-ever it is) does the system allow any programs to launch.

I have just been waiting it out on bootups, and scratching my head mostly.

I have 2 Vista 64 systems both with the SP1 RC beta refresh. The Maximus takes at least a minute after the desktop comes up before it's usable. The Asus Deluxe is ready to use almost immediately after. Quite disappointing since the Maximus has a 4 drive Raid 0 set up. I was hoping for much quicker boot times than the 2 drive raid setup.

Edit: Thought it might be indexing but it does it even with that service disabled.

[Zucker2k]

All of you having a lot of hard disk activity login in Vista. Vista -preloads programs you use frequently for faster access. To avoid it (it annoys the hell out of me), just go into services and and disable "superfetch." You can improve this further, by turning off "indexing" service too. This will have next to no effect on performance.

[Zucker2k]

Just check few post above ya I got exactly same prob bro, except they used to work on this board lol, but all of a sudden they didnt work after I changed the cpu(E8500), and did a bios flash. @ 1200mhz or 1130 with 5-5-4-9, without upping some big notches of volts and 1200 up to 2.2v didnt work, and I stack them in @ the p5k deluxe, they suddently did work lol 1200mhz 2.05v 5-5-5-12 with performance lvl5. Same goes for my G.skill 8000CL5 4GBPQ, cant even get it stable @ 1040 5-5-5-15 up to 2.1v which is ridiculous.

My theory on this is that... 45nm cpus are doing faster cycles and therefore need tighter timings. use to run 4:5 and 5:6; but with 45nm, I've found 1:1 with tight timings the only way my memory is stable enough to run dual 32M spi's.

[Talonman]

I have 2 Vista 64 systems both with the SP1 RC beta refresh. The Maximus takes at least a minute after the desktop comes up before it's usable. The Asus Deluxe is ready to use almost immediately after. Quite disappointing since the Maximus has a 4 drive Raid 0 set up. I was hoping for much quicker boot times than the 2 drive raid setup.

Edit: Thought it might be indexing but it does it even with that service disabled.

Thanks for the post. The way I remember it did it ininially right after my initial OS install, so I do believe that it just might be a Maximus thing.

You never get any errors, it just isn't willing to take any orders for 90 seconds.

It would be nice to find a setting that would allow you to reduce this time delay.
I can tell you that when I was re-booting allot, messing with my BIOS settings, it worked my nerves real good. :)

[CERO]

My theory on this is that... 45nm cpus are doing faster cycles and therefore need tighter timings. use to run 4:5 and 5:6; but with 45nm, I've found 1:1 with tight timings the only way my memory is stable enough to run dual 32M spi's.

Hey m8, well like I mentioned the E8500 is sold and popped back in the Q6600, same story:(

[theonlybabyface]

:banana::banana::banana::banana:e...woke up to the infamous DET RAM error and realized that board will not boot with any ram in the blue slots. Took a look inside and saw this! :eek:

[Sources]

what are you talking about not having RAM in the blue slots ?
what is the problem with RAM in blue slots... is there a known issue ?


:banana::banana::banana::banana:e...woke up to the infamous DET RAM error and realized that board will not boot with any ram in the blue slots. Took a look inside and saw this! :eek:

[zlojack]

Sorry, the picture isn't very clear man...

[tommithy]

blurry picture, not sure what I'm looking at.

oh... I think I see what the issue is. you've got a burnt component next to the that cap.

Use macro on your camera for a better pic.

[Grnfinger]

I have 2 Vista 64 systems both with the SP1 RC beta refresh. The Maximus takes at least a minute after the desktop comes up before it's usable. The Asus Deluxe is ready to use almost immediately after. Quite disappointing since the Maximus has a 4 drive Raid 0 set up. I was hoping for much quicker boot times than the 2 drive raid setup.

Edit: Thought it might be indexing but it does it even with that service disabled.

The final service pack fixes alot of indexing issues with Vista
I'm running the RTM now and it's a huge improvment over the rc1

[Zucker2k]

I'm running RTM too; indexing service is always going to do what it's designed for, so is superfetch. My WDs are noisy, so I notice these things.

[Grnfinger]

Same here my WD's are always clacking away with Vista, I have search service disabled. I might trun off superfetch, hell I know where my files are I dont need Vista to keep track of them.
But I might format and run XP again ...cant decide

[eSp!s0]

Hi guys.
I got my SE back from RMA (with burned chip on board). They realized that I had removed the heatsink and the shop redirected the board to asus and they repaired it anyway :)
Very lucky I guess.
Now I am thinking about what to do with the board. My current non-SE has that issue that it won`t boot anymore(and one day and 50 bootattempts after it suddenly boots like nothing happened) after making any bad setting in bios because of broken loading of defaults after OC/bad biossetting :(
But it is running at the moment and stable settings I found out last weeks are still stable, but changing sth. in bios and I must be afraid of the board and that it doesn`t boot anymore till next day or whenever it likes to.

[kup]

Dear kup, I talked with Leeghoofd, he got a P5K deluxe aswell, like I do. I had 0 problems from the day I bought the P5K deluxe same goes for leefhoofd. I didnt test the p5K deluxe and maximus head on head, but leeghoofd get lower 3dmarkscores on the maximus then on the deluxe.
He aswell confirmed there is really NO advantage going from the P5K deluxe to the maximus.

And I see u got the Blitz, I never had the chance to test that board, but leeghoofd did he said that the Blitz forumla was the best out the 3 and that can be said, I would say if u are not happy with your maximus, give your blitz a second chance

* edit: I will test tomorrow my G.Skill 8000CL5 4GBPQ on my Deluxe, if I can run 1066/1080 5-5-5-15/12 up to 2.1v, then I am 100% sure my Maximus crapped out and need to be dumped:(, already confirmed with my Crucial Tracers already, as I already requested the RMA and had already a RMA ticket, lucky I didnt RMA it before testing it on the Deluxe, would be pita if I will get a pair that are worser then the samples I got now.

Cool, cheers MC2K!!! I'll give the Blitz a whirl before I choose which board to attach the Phase Change to. I want the most stable of the two when I'm pushing for 4.2GHz 24/7 stable! :cool:

Would the PCI-E v2 really make a huge difference on the Maximus?

[icecpu]

hello , I have 2 raptors that I want to set up raid.
my question is do I have to load diver during installing windows vista. Before I set up raid on the P5W DH Deluxe I did not have to install driver.

If yes , I don't have a floopy disk to make the disk
I did tried to load the driver from the Maximus cd to the thumbdrive with no success, it says "unable to get disk information" any suggestion guys ? thanks

[pphx459]

I've got the "new" Ballistix, so I think my clocks could be limited by the RAMs ability.

What's with the "new" Ballistix?

Also, what does it mean when you turn on the board and it shuts down on you and repowers back on with the LCD poster stuck on CPU init?

[Raver]

hello , I have 2 raptors that I want to set up raid.
my question is do I have to load diver during installing windows vista. Before I set up raid on the P5W DH Deluxe I did not have to install driver.

If yes , I don't have a floopy disk to make the disk
I did tried to load the driver from the Maximus cd to the thumbdrive with no success, it says "unable to get disk information" any suggestion guys ? thanks

You dont need any drivers during Vista installation.

In BIOS just selesct RAID for your drives, reboot.

Watch for the Intel Matrix screen and hit ALT-I and setup your raid, reboot.

Put your Vista CD in your DVD drive and way you go, also make sure once you have setup your RAID that it's the first drive in your boot order, that is why youre getting the message "unable to get disk information" .

[Raver]

What's with the "new" Ballistix?

Also, what does it mean when you turn on the board and it shuts down on you and repowers back on with the LCD poster stuck on CPU init?

Your overclock failed and it can't initialise your processor.

[theonlybabyface]

blurry picture, not sure what I'm looking at.

oh... I think I see what the issue is. you've got a burnt component next to the that cap.

Use macro on your camera for a better pic.

Here's a better pic...

[Sources]

Ouch that sucks

[theonlybabyface]

Tell me about it...I can only run 2GBs on Vista now. :D

Waiting to see if NCIX will RMA for me...the board is only a week old replacement for a P5K Premium that I started having issues with. :rolleyes:

[atomicvai]

Another comment on the slow response after booting in to Vista. The "slowness" doesn't happen until I install the sound driver... so my guess is it's related to the onboard sound in some way.

[pphx459]

Your overclock failed and it can't initialise your processor.

problem is, this is a new board that was just swapped out. I made sure the cooling was mounted correctly on the processor as well.

Is there a way to reset the cmos via a jumper instead of using the button on the back of the board ?

[pphx459]

Tell me about it...I can only run 2GBs on Vista now. :D

Waiting to see if NCIX will RMA for me...the board is only a week old replacement for a P5K Premium that I started having issues with. :rolleyes:

Unfortunately, I have the same issue as you after 3 weeks of use. At first I thought it was the memory, but I noticed the voltage regulators were leaking when the board was taken out.

[eSp!s0]

That makes me return sth to my mind....

Yes, now I know, there was sth. with burned parts of the board:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/imag0017markierteg5.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=imag0017markierteg5.jpg)
... :down:

[JohnMike]

Yeah that's what I was afraid of... it's that uncertainty of "what if" it's a bad board and I wait too long trying to figure it out.

In regards to those loading issues... once that 30-45 secs passes all those types of progs (that access hardware I guess?) load instantly... and windows doesn't feel slow or anything, in fact it loads quite quickly...

Off topic... thinking of upgrading ram for something faster... 4x1gb or 2x2gb a better way? I see very few 2x2gb sets out there at higher speeds.


I have the same issue. Apon any re-boot, after the desktop appears, the break is in hard for 60 seconds or so. My connection to road runner keeps the red X even though the modem is fully ready. No program will launch. I wait it out and the system seemes to give up on something it wanted to do bad. All 4 cores jump to action, disk drive begins to access, modem connection kicks in too. The system returnes to it's speedy normal self.

I have looked in Device Manager, but find nothing that is !'ed.

I know the system is trying to do something for the first 60 seconds when the desktop appears, that runs with such a high priority, it stops all other system activity. Only when Vista gives up on the idea (what-ever it is) does the system allow any programs to launch.

I have just been waiting it out on bootups, and scratching my head mostly.


It happens on every single re-boot, the exact same way.

Everest won't launch, CPU-Z won't launch... No error, just no responce when when double clicking the icon, other than an hour glass mouse pointer, until the the system decides it is ready to move.


This is happeneing to me too and I think it's after a couple of BSOD's during overclocking, especially if you had a memory dump.

I'm going to reinstall tomorrow and see if the OS load/delay dissapears.

XP was tougher, it could handle many BSOD's and memory dumps, but Vista is more sensitive.


I agree. my BSOD symptom is delayed USB detection but my boots have been fine. I'm just not into reinstalling Vista anytime soon.


My delays are with a fresh install of Vista 32 or 64, so it's not from shutdowns etc... does it from the very first boot. I don't show any core action though while the delay is there (well minimal if any), but get the same no-response hourglass type thing. I also get the red X through my network icon for quite a while even though I have connectivity. I'm going to through XP on after work today and see if I get the delay in XP as well.

Thanks for the responses, at least I know it's not just me... but still in the back of my head wondering if it's the board since not everyone experiences this.

Guys.... this is not a board issue, it's network drivers issue!!!

Asus doesn't have the last Realtek drivers on their support page... :mad:

Install version 6.202 and your desktop delay is gone! :up:

http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=4&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true

I'm testing a P5E3 Dlx and had the same problem from the first time, installed Realtek 6.202 driver and everthing is fine!

[Raver]

Yeah I kinda noticed the red X on the network icon also, but I thaught it was due to the fact that Vista was busy doing something else and hadn't initialized the nic yet.

Installed the realtek drivers and rebooting...

Edit#1
Rebooted and rex X is still there and the delay is still there, cant open programs or folders for about 30-45 sec's after the OS has loaded.
Once the NIC's red X is gone everything starts working fine, there is alot of drive activity during this delay.
Gonna disable the second NIC in BIOS and see what gives.

Edit#2
I disabled and enabled the proper NIC's in BIOS and hooked up my cat5 cable to NIC port #1, it's the upper one, disabled NIC #2 and now after a couple of reboots my NIC initializes right away and I can now open programs and folders no more delay.

Edit#3
Wow this is weird I disabled NIC #1 in BIOS, hooked up my cat5 cable to NIC #1 and still have connection to the web?!?
Going to try the opposite becaus the delay was happening when I had my cat5 connected to NIC#2 and possibly had IT disabled in BIOS at the time.
Dont know if it's Vista or the board but net ttraffic is redirected to either working NIC independetly if it's disabled in BIOS.

[Talonman]

Installed the driver, 90 second delay still there...

Re-installed the driver, 90 sec delay still there....

Fired up device manager and uninstalled the sound card.
(Right click on 'Computer' and manage)

Re-booted. Vista detected the sound card and it installed drivers.

Re-booted, 90 second delay is now a skinny 10 seconds until full internet conection is made, and programs ready to launch!!

This is OP update material... :up:

3.8GHz is hitting the ground early now!!! :woot:

Thanks for the info JohnMike. Way to be a Team player!!!

[Raver]

Well not sure if it was a NIC BIOS issue, but my delay is completely gone, drivers did help for sure :)

[Talonman]

Yeha, delay is a poor word now. Mabey 10 sec of healty system activity would be more fittting? :)

[ZenEffect]

^this is why im still on xp. imma wait it out till windows 7 :cool:

stupid to ask but you guys did do the msconfig tweak to utilize all cores while loading right? i know that vista and xp both are set by default to load off 1 core.

msconfig
boot.ini
advanced options
check /numproc and set it to highest available number. 4 for quads 2 for duals *duh*

if you already know, then just ignore... just gotta throw that one out there.

[Talonman]

I didn't know, but just tried it. Vista blocks the program at boot up each time. I currently have to manually slect allow if I want it to run.

[icecpu]

You dont need any drivers during Vista installation.

In BIOS just selesct RAID for your drives, reboot.

Watch for the Intel Matrix screen and hit ALT-I and setup your raid, reboot.

Put your Vista CD in your DVD drive and way you go, also make sure once you have setup your RAID that it's the first drive in your boot order, that is why youre getting the message "unable to get disk information" .

Thank you , I just set up raid without installing any drivers. I read the manual of the maximus , it's said i have install driver during installing vista. Weird , their manual messup too.

[Lestat]

im not sure what boards you guys have but the Formula doesnt use the realtek drivers it uses the marvel Yukon NIC and drivers
it is NOT realtek..

[Sources]

Is marvel running outta chips and swapping em for Realteks LMAO !



im not sure what boards you guys have but the Formula doesnt use the realtek drivers it uses the marvel Yukon NIC and drivers
it is NOT realtek..

[Sources]

Hmmm isnt the bottom one port #1



Yeah I kinda noticed the red X on the network icon also, but I thaught it was due to the fact that Vista was busy doing something else and hadn't initialized the nic yet.

Installed the realtek drivers and rebooting...

Edit#1
Rebooted and rex X is still there and the delay is still there, cant open programs or folders for about 30-45 sec's after the OS has loaded.
Once the NIC's red X is gone everything starts working fine, there is alot of drive activity during this delay.
Gonna disable the second NIC in BIOS and see what gives.

Edit#2
I disabled and enabled the proper NIC's in BIOS and hooked up my cat5 cable to NIC port #1, it's the upper one, disabled NIC #2 and now after a couple of reboots my NIC initializes right away and I can now open programs and folders no more delay.

Edit#3
Wow this is weird I disabled NIC #1 in BIOS, hooked up my cat5 cable to NIC #1 and still have connection to the web?!?
Going to try the opposite becaus the delay was happening when I had my cat5 connected to NIC#2 and possibly had IT disabled in BIOS at the time.
Dont know if it's Vista or the board but net ttraffic is redirected to either working NIC independetly if it's disabled in BIOS.

[Lestat]

Is marvel running outta chips and swapping em for Realteks LMAO !

i've never seen a company switch nic's
not like they cant do that if they run out.
production would have to be really heavy to do that.
but yes they could do it.

they are both mediocre nic chipsets anyways with crap driver support
its why i will NEVER use onbaord audio. super duper crap ultra sh|t realtek HDAduio,, yeah whatever.

[atomicvai]

I tried uninstalling the sound driver and rebooting... this removed the delay for me also, but also reverted back to the generic driver. Is it sound or is it network, lol... either way the boards rockin... would just like to resolve the unknowns.

[arfett]

Anyone know why I can't get my DVD-RW drive detected as such on this motherboard? I've uninstalled the dvd drive and the ide drivers from device manager and let windows reload it and it still can't detect it properly.
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/700/capturenn7.jpg

[Kondik]

Just a informative question, i bought Maximus Formula yesterday will be shipped here tommorow ... what are the major flaws of this board .. honestly, every board has them. Cold boots , it can't boot with 4x 2 GB Dual side sticks, cooler suck , the vdrop is bigger than a generation gap btw Caesar and Bush and so on. + What's bios is the best. I won't use the integrated Soud Max crap buzzer so i don;t mind the sound quality. Thanks for shor compare

[Spyrus]

It is hard to stabilize it sometimes.
What did you not like with Gigabyte X38 DQ6 and want to change?

[Warboy]

Just a informative question, i bought Maximus Formula yesterday will be shipped here tommorow ... what are the major flaws of this board .. honestly, every board has them. Cold boots , it can't boot with 4x 2 GB Dual side sticks, cooler suck , the vdrop is bigger than a generation gap btw Caesar and Bush and so on. + What's bios is the best. I won't use the integrated Soud Max crap buzzer so i don;t mind the sound quality. Thanks for shor compare

Really bad voltage flexes that make hardware used such as CPU and Memory to degrade.

[Kondik]

It is hard to stabilize it sometimes.
What did you not like with Gigabyte X38 DQ6 and want to change?

X38 DQ6 blown PCI Mosfet = Total Instability when PCI card connected so I RMAe'd it and needed a new one [ i hate to wait] and only Maximus Formula in this category is available. DQ6 was allready set as End of Life product

[Kondik]

Warboy;2770552']Really bad voltage flexes that make hardware used such as CPU and Memory to degrade.

Is it that bad ? No seriously .. if my CPU will die in a couple of months even when not OCed [ I usually overclock 1 ste+ , if CPU is x * 266 i'll oc it to x * 333 and so on not more , RAM aren;t getting OCed at all ]. Your'e scaring me ... :eek:

[Spyrus]

These issues mostly occur when leaving voltages to auto.
Need to fully understand all setting in bios.
I have no problem with degration.
But these settings if change a little a restart and/or blue screen is going to happen
for example gtls,dram refs.

[Kondik]

These issues mostly occur when leaving voltages to auto.
Need to fully understand all setting in bios.
I have no problem with degration.
But these settings if change a little a restart and/or blue screen is going to happen
for example gtls,dram refs.

Well i hate auto everywhere i set up thing manually especiali voltages. So this Board shouldnt have problems with 8 GB's of black dragons [ Geill 800/CL5 ] if i set up everything corectly

[Spyrus]

As far as memory concern Asus is great there being compatible and overclockable (comparing to Abit Quad GT for example).

[Kondik]

As far as memory concern Asus is great there being compatible and overclockable (comparing to Abit Quad GT for example).

So the MOBO won't be problematic if good memory is used , correct me if im'm wrong. 4 x 2 GB Geil Black Dragon 800/CL5 not OCed will work and i won't be forced to throw half of them out because of something ... :clap:

[WFO]

^this is why im still on xp. imma wait it out till windows 7 :cool:

stupid to ask but you guys did do the msconfig tweak to utilize all cores while loading right? i know that vista and xp both are set by default to load off 1 core.

msconfig
boot.ini
advanced options
check /numproc and set it to highest available number. 4 for quads 2 for duals *duh*

if you already know, then just ignore... just gotta throw that one out there.

I for one was unaware of this tweak. Thanks for posting it. :p: From the time I hit "enter" after entering my password, loading of the OS is almost immediate. Everything is already in the system tray (Everest with temps too) and my wireless card comes already connected. That eliminated my delays without touching the drivers. :yepp:

[Virous]

So the MOBO won't be problematic if good memory is used , correct me if im'm wrong. 4 x 2 GB Geil Black Dragon 800/CL5 not OCed will work and i won't be forced to throw half of them out because of something ... :clap:

Got my 2gb of dominator at 1119mhz 5-5-5-12 2.16V
3hrs PI stable at 3600MHZ on air. on a Q6600..

I am enjoying this board.

Only mod im going to do is, the fact i was sent and SE. Im going to remove the fuzion block. and try and tim+glue some norman ramsinks in its spot. and put a 40mm fan on top to keep the NB cooler.

[Kondik]

Got my 2gb of dominator at 1119mhz 5-5-5-12 2.16V
3hrs PI stable at 3600MHZ on air. on a Q6600..

I am enjoying this board.

Only mod im going to do is, the fact i was sent and SE. Im going to remove the fuzion block. and try and tim+glue some norman ramsinks in its spot. and put a 40mm fan on top to keep the NB cooler.

I don't care about frequency , usuall full double sided RAMs are having problems with various MOBOs that's why i asked. Btw i have all Thermalright Cooler available si i will pimp the board with thermalrights , i hate stocl cooling

[Robin77]

I for one was unaware of this tweak. Thanks for posting it. :p: From the time I hit "enter" after entering my password, loading of the OS is almost immediate. Everything is already in the system tray (Everest with temps too) and my wireless card comes already connected. That eliminated my delays without touching the drivers. :yepp:

I don't want to dissapoint you guys, but Vista doesn't use boot.ini anymore. Instead it saves its bootsettings in Boot Configuration Data Store (BCD Store) which is in binary format and therefore not editable with a texteditor.

You can change settings using bcdedit. But even don't know without googling if there's a setting for coreamount is required.