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sonicsallen
01-29-2008, 03:44 AM
Warboy;2730986']Go read the review at anandtech (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=1)

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/motherboards/2008/asus-rampage-formula/BIOS_extreme_tweaker.jpg

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/motherboards/2008/asus-rampage-formula/BIOS_mem_2.jpg

This article is really helpful explaining strap and memory performance

sonicsallen
01-29-2008, 03:46 AM
I has been over a month since the latest BIOS 0907 came out. What are they thinking?

eSp!s0
01-29-2008, 06:18 AM
Tomorrow I receive my E8400 to replace my E6750. Is it necessary to do a clean Windows-reinstall or can I just pop it in?

But take care that you re using bios 0907 before changing to E8x00.

tommithy
01-29-2008, 09:44 AM
I has been over a month since the latest BIOS 0907 came out. What are they thinking?

My thoughts exactly.

They need to fix the broken memory dividers and implement better MCH settings like the rampage will get.

eSp!s0
01-29-2008, 10:02 AM
I think, they have enough to work with other boards. Next bios will come....

jagt
01-29-2008, 10:18 AM
Warboy;2730986']Go read the review at anandtech (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=1)

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/motherboards/2008/asus-rampage-formula/BIOS_extreme_tweaker.jpg

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/motherboards/2008/asus-rampage-formula/BIOS_mem_2.jpg

Does anyone know when the Rampage is due anyway? I'm fed up with my IP35 Pro's odd behavior these days, so I'm looking to change to something else.

binormalkilla
01-29-2008, 11:24 AM
But it probably put a real dent in your latencies and performance according to Anandtechs latest article. Better stable I guess :)

Yea man it definitely did......well it sucks but I'm going to look for the best performance setting. This seems to be the only way to get the dividers stable past 400 FSB (maybe 415......)
I'm going to test voltages and such tonight.....I'll post my final results.
So far I'm SuperPi 32M stable with relax 2.....failed at relax 1.
I may be able to make up for lost latency/bandwidth by tightening timings.....

tommithy
01-29-2008, 12:55 PM
It's really interesting how the same board performs differently for each person. I've managed to find a stable spot with Transaction Booster set to disabled and relaxed at 0. At least it's Prime and OCCT stable. I haven't tried SuperPi..

S1mon-
01-29-2008, 01:33 PM
It's really interesting how the same board performs differently for each person. I've managed to find a stable spot with Transaction Booster set to disabled and relaxed at 0. At least it's Prime and OCCT stable. I haven't tried SuperPi..

Mine will do Enabled (0) but any number higher will not boot :(

Grnfinger
01-29-2008, 01:37 PM
Yea man it definitely did......well it sucks but I'm going to look for the best performance setting. This seems to be the only way to get the dividers stable past 400 FSB (maybe 415......)
I'm going to test voltages and such tonight.....I'll post my final results.
So far I'm SuperPi 32M stable with relax 2.....failed at relax 1.
I may be able to make up for lost latency/bandwidth by tightening timings.....

the dividers are stable for me past 400FSB
I run the 333 strap with a 478FSB and get great bandwidth, I've even had the 266 strap stable on a 450FSB


http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4300_1147ram.png

Wallboy
01-29-2008, 01:53 PM
I'm wanting to flash to 0907, but the file is too big for a floppy disk and I have no USB flash disk, how else can I flash to 0907 without using the the utility in windows to do it since I've heard bad things about doing it that way?

Zucker2k
01-29-2008, 01:56 PM
Asus update, but not recommended. (Don't even sneeze while it's flashing :D)

Edit: A fat partition on the jmicron controller? An ipod? A blank CD?

Grnfinger
01-29-2008, 01:57 PM
I have used Asus Update 3 times and all were a success, I would recommend NOT running an overclock while you flash in Windows

Zucker2k
01-29-2008, 02:00 PM
Edit.

Wallboy
01-29-2008, 02:01 PM
yeah I could burn it to a CD, will that work with ez flash?

Zucker2k
01-29-2008, 02:03 PM
yeah I could burn it to a CD, will that work with ez flash?

:yepp:

Grnfinger
01-29-2008, 03:29 PM
Hey Zucker2k

What are you running your 8400 for 24/7 use?
I'm getting split screen in 3DMark06 if I go higher than 500FSB

Zucker2k
01-29-2008, 07:28 PM
Hey Zucker2k

What are you running your 8400 for 24/7 use?
I'm getting split screen in 3DMark06 if I go higher than 500FSB

EDIT

8.5 x 506 fsb @ 4.302Ghz
333 strap
transaction booster disabled, level 1. (= PL 8)
FSB:RAM = 1:1 @ 4-4-4-10-2-25-6-3-8-3-5-4-6-4-6, 2.40v (2.20v set in bios)
CPU= (gotta test) 1.3750v (set in bios), cpu-z reports 1.376v, load
CPUPLL = (I set 1.5), you can set to your liking
NB=1.45
SB=1.100
FSBT=1.48
LLC = Enabled
SB 1.5 = 1.60
CPU GTL=x61
NB GTL=x67

magica
01-29-2008, 07:56 PM
I am running the supreme card. Problem is I have a 4.1 altec lansing sound system . this was a $300 system alot of years ago. With my msi neo 2 system it was great useing the spdif out rca. Im using that now BUT I ONLY GET SOUND WITH TWO FRONT SPEAKERS. Our supreme card wants only one plug in for rear speakers. Well I have TWO that mormally plug into the woofer.

SPDIF is being handled diff here.

If I can get a signal out to both REAR speakers I have from the ONE port of the card. WHAT can i use to tie in the second input. It looks like I MIGHT NEED A SPLITER HERE????? WILL A SPLITER WORK ? If I can resolve Im going to have to go LIVE platinum setup. I would rather not add that expense.

Anyone got solid experience? Should I post this somewhere else?

Dostoyevsky77
01-30-2008, 02:51 AM
BIOS 0601 out today for the P5E. Maybe we're next?

Eastcoasthandle
01-30-2008, 05:14 AM
Has anyone figured out how to OC E8400 to 400 FSB yet?

Zucker2k
01-30-2008, 05:24 AM
That's easy for these chips. Why? Having problems?

Eastcoasthandle
01-30-2008, 06:24 AM
That's easy for these chips. Why? Having problems?

:confused:
Do to the nature of this thread is why I asked. I haven't found any configs using E8400 (maybe I missed it). Would like to know any tweaks.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/E8400/E8400_3600_MaxFormula.jpg


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/E8400/E8400_3600_MaxFormula_SuperPI1.jpg
Not bad at 3.6GHz

Dostoyevsky77
01-30-2008, 06:44 AM
Hello! Here are mine, with the help of some people on this forum. If you look, I think a couple others posted their settings. Zucker just did, and you can find Grnfinger's HERE (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2729108&postcount=5344). I had to stop at 4.23 because I'm using a lot more vCore than most people are reporting. You should be able to get this stable with a lower vCore. I don't know what's wrong with my setup, but I need all 1.4375.

Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 470
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1182
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 25
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.4375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.18
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

cadaveca
01-30-2008, 07:01 AM
MY e8400:

Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 120
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 8
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 42
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 1

CPU Voltage : 1.4625
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.16
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.6


19454 '06:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4955818

28241 '05
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=3956233

72125 '03:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=5710376

78639 '01:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9326703

245219 AQ3:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=71520&stc=1&d=1201705524

ChaosAD
01-30-2008, 07:23 AM
Finally i managed to get some free time to test my sucky Q6600.After some answers from you guyz i increased the vcore one more step to test P95 blend test again since i had the 48 min issue.

Now running 3,41@1,4v in cpuz/everest i started P95 blend.This time after 48min i didnt have the same error.This time none of the cores failed.This time P95 program crashed.It stopped working as vista reported.Now i m confused.

Do i need to adjust something else?Do i need more vcore?Plz help me out...:shakes:

eSp!s0
01-30-2008, 07:25 AM
MY e8400:

Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 120
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 8
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 42
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 1

CPU Voltage : 1.4625
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.16
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.6


19454 '06:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4955818

28241 '05
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=3956233

72125 '03:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=5710376

78639 '01:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9326703

245219 AQ3:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=71520&stc=1&d=1201705524

:shocked:

I want an E8x00, too :D

cadaveca
01-30-2008, 07:29 AM
Finally i managed to get some free time to test my sucky Q6600.After some answers from you guyz i increased the vcore one more step to test P95 blend test again since i had the 48 min issue.

Now running 3,41@1,4v in cpuz/everest i started P95 blend.This time after 48min i didnt have the same error.This time none of the cores failed.This time P95 program crashed.It stopped working as vista reported.Now i m confused.

Do i need to adjust something else?Do i need more vcore?Plz help me out...:shakes:

I usually look at chipset/memory for randomly-closing apps. IE has this funny bug where it randomly crashes on "not-quite-stable-but-oh-so-close" cpu's as well.

Eastcoasthandle
01-30-2008, 07:38 AM
^^FF will do that as well

Thanks for the bios updates on the E8400 guys! :up:

ChaosAD
01-30-2008, 07:44 AM
I usually look at chipset/memory for randomly-closing apps. IE has this funny bug where it randomly crashes on "not-quite-stable-but-oh-so-close" cpu's as well.

So what do u mean?Is it a memory or a cpu fault?Should i increase vcore and try again or something else?

cadaveca
01-30-2008, 08:00 AM
Try lowering memspeed, or increase chipset volts and see what happens. Alot of times increasing CPU volts creates a "placebo" effect as the chipset recieves that little bit extra from cpu in communication.

Dostoyevsky77
01-30-2008, 09:54 AM
Cadaveca, you have no problems running VTT at 1.2v? Have you seen any benefit of higher on this board with quads or any other chip?

cadaveca
01-30-2008, 10:38 AM
depends on each chip. Duals, quads, doesn't matter, it's the quality of the silcon that matters.

Grnfinger
01-30-2008, 11:08 AM
^^FF will do that as well

Thanks for the bios updates on the E8400 guys! :up:

Here is mine
15 hours prime stable

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4300prime1.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4300_1147ram.png


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 478
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1147
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.3875 (Actual 1.368)
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

binormalkilla
01-30-2008, 12:57 PM
All right I'm stable in SuperPi 32M and for 2 hours in Prime blended (fail after 2 hours) with my quad at 470 FSB with my memory at DDR2-1129! This kicks soooo much ass.......
It isn't %100 rock solid 8 hour Prime stable or anything, but I"m not folding.......so I'll post some BIOS when I finish stability...

BTW I called ASUS tech support to see if they had any info on the chipset voltage limitations, and they said that the limit is 1.95V according to Intel, and that thermals will kill the NB rather than voltage.....which is great considering that I require a huge amount of voltage for stability at 470 FSB with my quad and memory configuration.....
http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/42883/2001890017877177661_rs.jpg

FZ1
01-30-2008, 01:09 PM
Anyone else running a QX9650? I'm curious to see what settings you are using.

binormalkilla
01-30-2008, 01:37 PM
Anyone else running a QX9650? I'm curious to see what settings you are using.

I'm holding out for the non-extreme 45nm quads....

Eastcoasthandle
01-30-2008, 01:53 PM
Here is mine
15 hours prime stable

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4300prime1.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4300_1147ram.png


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 478
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1147
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.3875 (Actual 1.368)
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
:up:

RCG_Bex
01-30-2008, 01:57 PM
Hi guys I'm just new. I've got this awesome board and an E6750 and I'm looking to get it to 4ghz. I've OC'd it to 3.5ghz stabely using 1 of the recommended OC's here, and I've had a go at Renegade's but my PC won't post.

I *think* it may be to do with the RAM settings but I'm not sure how to go about it. I'm using 2GB Adata 1200+ in dual channel mode with a corsair cooler. I will be starting my water cooling in the next few weeks but I'd like to get settings that I know will boot so I can give them thorough testing when I've better cooling.

I know I'm jumping the gun a little but would someone like to give this lady a helping hand in the right direction?

~Bex

Eastcoasthandle
01-30-2008, 02:14 PM
Dimm Voltage
Bios 2.10V = 2.224V in Everest
Bios 2.08V = 2.XX V in Everest (haven't tried that yet)
Bios 2.06V = 2.176V in Everest
Bios 2.04V = 2.160V in Everest
Bios 2.02V = 2.128V in Everest

In order to get Corsiar's Dominator PC8500 working (as it would hang with Dram Det) I had to:
-use my old PC6400 ram (which worked fine)
-boot into Bios and set Dram Voltage to 2.10V
-Set Transaction Boost: Enable, Boost Level=0
-Reboot to make sure Bios settings took
-Install PC8500 Ram
-System boots now so, in the Bios I manually set Dram Frequency to 1066MHz and Dram Command 2T
-Dial back Dram Voltage to 2.02V (haven't tried 2.00V yet).
-I think N/S Bridge chipset voltage is set to Auto.



http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/E8400/E8400_3600_MaxFormula.jpg

icecpu
01-30-2008, 02:39 PM
Dimm Voltage
Bios 2.10V = 2.224V in Everest
Bios 2.08V = 2.XX V in Everest (haven't tried that yet)
Bios 2.06V = 2.176V in Everest
Bios 2.04V = 2.160V in Everest
Bios 2.02V = 2.128V in Everest

In order to get Corsiar's Dominator PC8500 working (as it would hang with Dram Det) I had to:
-use my old PC6400 ram (which worked fine)
-boot into Bios and set Dram Voltage to 2.10V
-Set Transaction Boost: Enable, Boost Level=0
-Reboot to make sure Bios settings took
-Install PC8500 Ram
-System boots now so, in the Bios I manually set Dram Frequency to 1066MHz and Dram Command 2T
-Dial back Dram Voltage to 2.02V (haven't tried 2.00V yet).
-I think N/S Bridge chipset voltage is set to Auto.



http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/eastcoasthandle/E8400/E8400_3600_MaxFormula.jpg


What program is that you are using to monitor the temps , I like it has all the system info in one screen , thanks

Eastcoasthandle
01-30-2008, 02:51 PM
It's Everest's OSD. Go to Preferences and setup your OSD (on screen display...I think)

Wallboy
01-30-2008, 05:40 PM
I just got my HD3870s today and finally was able to boot up. First thing I did was update my BIOS to 0907 which went fine. Then I configured my HDs as RAID, rebooted and then hit Ctrl-I to get into the raid manager, I set my Raid 0 array up on 2 of my 500GB WD HDDs. Rebooted and then tried to install XP. First thing I got was a BSOD that says there was an error and to run chkdsk /f. Not knowing what to do I restarted and deleted the raid array and set the configuration back to IDE in the settings. Restarted and windows began to install fine. After it finished installing it rebooted and got to the load screen and I got the same BSOD again.

My specs:

Q6600 G0
4GB Ballistix Tracer PC-6400
(2) HIS HD3870 ICEQ
(3) WD 500GB SATA HDs
Corsair HX620
Maximus Formula

Any ideas what could be wrong?

Edit: Tried removing 2 sticks of RAM, got the same error. Tried 1 stick, same error. So I don't think it's the memory causing the problem. Should I try installing the ICH9R controller during XP setup. Thought I only had to do that when installing RAID, but I couldn't even get to installing XP before getting that BSOD when I had the raid array configured.

binormalkilla
01-30-2008, 06:21 PM
Ok here are my stable settings for my Q6600 at 3.8 470x8 with my memory at DDR2-1128 5-5-5-15
BTW, my memory is warrantied up to 2.5V so don't try dialing in the VDIMM right off the bat.....I just set mine to a little less than 2.5V to begin testing, then I'm going to back it down to find the minimum stable settings on the VDIMM.
Less NBV may be needed for others, but my chip seems to need it in order to run these memory settings at such a high FSB.
As long as your temps are ok (I load at 45C) then no harm done.......Intel specs the X38 NBV at 1.95V max :eek:
http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/42971/2000556987132791322_rs.jpg
http://aycu07.webshots.com/image/41846/2000546350140129530_rs.jpg
http://aycu17.webshots.com/image/40816/2002516386788270755_rs.jpg

dragonhunter
01-30-2008, 07:00 PM
Why are you guys run PCI-E Freq so high? does it improve O/C results? thanks

icecpu
01-30-2008, 07:20 PM
I'm about to slam a hammer into this board guys , I have been playing with it for a week can not solve the problem of hanging at DET DRAM . This is my setting , some one give me input please

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 460
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1100
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: auto
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.43125
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : auto
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

iadstudio
01-30-2008, 07:43 PM
auto voltage on overclocked RAM is just one of the things that could be your problem. That and the 333 strap at that bus speed. Try the 400 strap and set you RAM voltage.

dragonhunter
01-30-2008, 07:45 PM
icecpu,
Strap = 400
DRam freq = 920
Twister = Auto
Dram Volt = 2.2V

binormalkilla
01-30-2008, 08:16 PM
I'm about to slam a hammer into this board guys , I have been playing with it for a week can not solve the problem of hanging at DET DRAM . This is my setting , some one give me input please


Try setting your transbooster relax to 1......I had to do this in order to get stable with any dividers on an FSB over 415.
You are also going to have to dial in the voltage....I'm surprised that you're even POSTing at all with the memory settings you're running (without voltage adjustments)

Why are you guys run PCI-E Freq so high? does it improve O/C results? thanks

It helps for stability when OCing your graphics cards really high. If I drop my PCI-E to 110 MHz I am not stable at my clocks......950/1075 in Crossfire.

icecpu
01-30-2008, 08:22 PM
I tried everything already , no go , only set auto for timing and voltage will sometime hang at DET DRAM , but sometime boot into windows

binormalkilla
01-30-2008, 08:37 PM
I tried everything already , no go , only set auto for timing and voltage will sometime hang at DET DRAM , but sometime boot into windows

So have you tried increasing the voltage? I used to get that when I first bought the board with my Ballistix.....they required more voltage than the stock 1.8V to POST, so I had to buy a stick of value RAM and POST with it, then set the voltage, shutdown, then install the Ballistix.
Needless to say, I sold the Ballistix.


BTW guys, there is a new version of PC Probe out.

icecpu
01-30-2008, 08:54 PM
This is my setting for now , and it does boot , I'm testing the ram now , but maybe sometime it hang at DET DRAM again , just pray now

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 465
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1109
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.4312
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Wallboy
01-30-2008, 08:55 PM
Finally got my computer up and running, think I have my raid 0 setup on 2 500GB HDDs correctly, does this HDTach seem about right? As well it's showing the full 1TB size in My Computer, shouldn't it only be showing the size of one drive with a raid 0 setup? Thanks

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/3479/24733819cf0.th.jpg (http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=24733819cf0.jpg)

Wolf2000me
01-31-2008, 12:19 AM
Finally got my computer up and running, think I have my raid 0 setup on 2 500GB HDDs correctly, does this HDTach seem about right? As well it's showing the full 1TB size in My Computer, shouldn't it only be showing the size of one drive with a raid 0 setup? Thanks


Open the Matrix Storage Manager application, right click on your RAID array and enable "Write Back Cache". It'll increase your performance.
Your RAID 0 array is 1gb so why should it show half of it? It's being seen as just one volume.


I have a question of my own. I'm currently at 9x400 at 1.35v vcore with vdrop pencil mod on the board, as described on the OP. Works great :)
It's perfectly stable and when I get back from work I'm going to continue pushing it.

However since I attached my older drives it takes a much longer time to get past the hardware detection screen. The system stalls after finding my USB mouse, which is after the memory detection. I hear one of my drives do a little work and no matter what I change in the bios it always does this. The stall takes about 20 seconds. I also tried playing with the ATA(PI) detection time but that doesn't change anything, like I said.

Spyrus
01-31-2008, 12:33 AM
With my E8400 i have problem running with 8.5x multi.
It is stable with 9x425 but not with 8.5x450.
Bios is latest 0907.

Wallboy
01-31-2008, 12:36 AM
Yup that sure boosted it, thanks! :D

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/7728/64385619km7.th.jpg (http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=64385619km7.jpg)

cadaveca
01-31-2008, 12:40 AM
With my E8400 i have problem running with 8.5x multi.
It is stable with 9x425 but not with 8.5x450.
Bios is latest 0907.

you need transaction booster disabled and set to "1" over 445FSB.:up:


My e8400 prefers(less voltage for stability) 500x8.5/600mhz ram over 475x9/570mhz ram...

binormalkilla
01-31-2008, 12:55 AM
This is my setting for now , and it does boot , I'm testing the ram now , but maybe sometime it hang at DET DRAM again , just pray now

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 465
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1109
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.4312
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Try setting the trans booster relax level to 1 or increasing the NBV. You need to turn the DRAM voltage down to 2.16-2.18 because the board overvolts it. On mine I get 2.22V when I set it to 2.18V. I used to run Ballistix, and they're known to die from overvolting.....so you want to be careful. :)
You should be able to run 5-5-5-15 4 42 6 4 secondary 8 3 5 4 6 4 6 @ 2.18V (for now, might want to bump down to 2.16V 24/7)
Take the NBV up to 1.65V just for now, as you can test lower settings after you're stable. Just make sure that the temps stay around 45C and you're fine.

Nuckin_Futs
01-31-2008, 01:24 AM
I see a few with what sounds liek the same but just to make sure. After flashing to v0903 again from v0802, I cannot load to XP with anything other then F2 to continue and load defaults. If I so much as F1 to enter CMOS and then exit, it hangs at DET rAM even if I select Load defaults. I can run XP if I press F2 and then flash back with Live Update v6.10.02 for XP x64) and now all the same. I can EZ-Flash to v0907 and same thing. So I use live Update to go back to v0802 again and still the same.

I can enter and resume S3 (sleap/stand by) I can enter S4 (deap sleap/hibernate) but have to go through CMOS reset like before to get the F2 menue to continue and XP will resume. I cant even restart without haveing to clear CMOS to get to F2 to continue.

Histery: ended up at BETA BIOS v0907 a month ago (always EZ-Flash) and rolled back to v0802 via ASUS Live Update v6.10.02, cause of issues with ACPI issues

I had nothing but good 4 months beforr

Spyrus
01-31-2008, 01:50 AM
you need transaction booster disabled and set to "1" over 445FSB.:up:


My e8400 prefers(less voltage for stability) 500x8.5/600mhz ram over 475x9/570mhz ram...

No man that is not the thing because 8x450 is ok with my settings on voltages/settings.

cadaveca
01-31-2008, 01:56 AM
Yes, but chipset is hammered harder @ 9x & 8.5x than 8x...bandwidth & cpu speed are directly related.


Are you using settings as I described? If not, then what?

Look, cpu multi and chip multi are different. there is a bit of delay in converting this as bus speeds are different. Different multi's require different delays, as each time you adjust speeds, ratio for the busses is different. One setting may work for one multi, does not mean it works for others!:fact:

icecpu
01-31-2008, 03:51 AM
I'm getting stable at 470 FSB now , trying to get cpu voltage down a little, do I really need to set relax level to 1 or 0 is fine , everytime I set timing manually I get hang at DET DRAM , so for now I can't do anything for timing just auto detect at 5-5-5-18 , which is not bad ,
For the DRAM voltage , is this board really overvolts it , what program can I use to see the DRAM voltage ,
Thanks for the inputs

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 470
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1128
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.425
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Grnfinger
01-31-2008, 03:52 AM
I'm about to slam a hammer into this board guys , I have been playing with it for a week can not solve the problem of hanging at DET DRAM . This is my setting , some one give me input please

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 460
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1100
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: auto
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.43125
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : auto
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5


Set your dram static to disabled and I bet the "DET RAM" hang is gone;)

icecpu
01-31-2008, 04:06 AM
Thanks , I'll try that after the prime

Dostoyevsky77
01-31-2008, 04:33 AM
Hey. Totally n00b question, so apologies in advance.

I'm trying to find Vista x64 chipset drivers for this board.

When I first got the board, I installed 8.3.0.1013, but Intel doesn't say anything about that being for X38.


***EDIT: I figured it out. I was just freaking out that Intel didn't explicitly say 8.3.0.1013 was for X38.

cadaveca
01-31-2008, 04:34 AM
Set your dram static to disabled and I bet the "DET RAM" hang is gone;)

This board is so whacked..I can leave enabled, disabled, auto, whatever, boots just fine. Some people just have bum boards, it seems...people having issues I see @ 550FSB..but they are @ like 400FSB...:shrug: My first board ran really hot and then died after a month or so, but my second seems great...:(

Spyrus
01-31-2008, 04:52 AM
Cadaveca, you have no problems running VTT at 1.2v? Have you seen any benefit of higher on this board with quads or any other chip?

With E8400 i need to raise fsb termination to 1.4+ in order to run at 530+ fsb

Eastcoasthandle
01-31-2008, 05:18 AM
Bios settings for those with Corsiar Ram (http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54052)
The ASUS P5K3 bios settings can help with some rudimentary problems.

Example:
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Dynamic Write Control: Disabled
PCIE Frequency: 100
etc

But remember this is DDR3 MB. If I find anything that relates to X38 other then just DDR2 settings I'll post.

icecpu
01-31-2008, 12:45 PM
OK this is my best stable setting now , only sometime hang at DET DRAM when I restart computer , still cannot figure out what is the problem

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 467
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1120
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax level: 1

CPU Voltage : 1.406
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

UnSeenSVK
01-31-2008, 12:48 PM
hallo mates...can anybody help me?..i cant change on my maximus formula
CPU Ratio Control from auto to manual ...couse i wanna change
Ratio CMOS Setting.

i m in windows and i ve got on 6x333 and if i start to do something it s change to 9,5 x 333 why?..

i wanna have still 9,5x333

what i hate to change in bios?..corry for my lanquage..i m slovakian from europe

Eastcoasthandle
01-31-2008, 01:02 PM
hallo mates...can anybody help me?..i cant change on my maximus formula
CPU Ratio Control from auto to manual ...couse i wanna change
Ratio CMOS Setting.

i m in windows and i ve got on 6x333 and if i start to do something it s change to 9,5 x 333 why?..

i wanna have still 9,5x333

what i hate to change in bios?..corry for my lanquage..i m slovakian from europe

We need information:
-CPU
-Memory Sticks

If speedstep or C1E are enabled windows (cpu-z) will read it at lower multi when CPU is idling. When CPU is working, the multi will go up! This is normal operation for CPU! Check bios to see if either are enabled.

icecpu
01-31-2008, 01:03 PM
hallo mates...can anybody help me?..i cant change on my maximus formula
CPU Ratio Control from auto to manual ...couse i wanna change
Ratio CMOS Setting.

i m in windows and i ve got on 6x333 and if i start to do something it s change to 9,5 x 333 why?..

i wanna have still 9,5x333

what i hate to change in bios?..corry for my lanquage..i m slovakian from europe


key in the value in bios
CPU Ratio Setting [9.5]

or disable intel speedstep technology in CPU configuration

UnSeenSVK
01-31-2008, 01:44 PM
i dont understand this my temperature..where is problem?...

http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hhhhko1.jpg

my temperature is 11C i don t understand this...why...?..please help me..where is problem?..cant be 11 C

Zoudo
01-31-2008, 02:06 PM
i dont understand this my temperature..where is problem?...

http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hhhhko1.jpg

my temperature is 11C i don t understand this...why...?..please help me..where is problem?..cant be 11 C

Try with Coretemp 0.96.1

UnSeenSVK
01-31-2008, 02:26 PM
is beter now..showing about 22c...in windows..i try 3dmark...

is it real 22C?....

i m using thermalright extreme witch noctua fan..artic silver 5 paste...

case is coolermaster stracker 832

UnSeenSVK
01-31-2008, 02:35 PM
i dont undestand...ps probe showing same as core temp 11C

Mb has 38C
NB has 50C
SB has 47C


and processor has still 11C...

please help me... :mad:

Eastcoasthandle
01-31-2008, 02:50 PM
i dont undestand...ps probe showing same as core temp 11C

Mb has 38C
NB has 50C
SB has 47C


and processor has still 11C...

please help me... :mad:

I had same problem with E6850 with another version of Core Temps last year. It would show 17C until they updated and fixed it a few revisions later. I believe there are problems with cpu temp monitoring programs reading E8000 series correctly.

Grnfinger
01-31-2008, 02:51 PM
I use Everest to monitor temps, its 100% for me
Bios 907

UnSeenSVK
01-31-2008, 02:54 PM
which version?..of everest?

mXpS
01-31-2008, 03:04 PM
CoreTemp 0.96.1 shows a 20-21 difference in temps at idle. Do you think its the probe, mobo, or the chip that is messed up?

UnSeenSVK
01-31-2008, 03:07 PM
so now i have core temp 096,1 and showing 22 C...is that right?..

Eastcoasthandle
01-31-2008, 03:19 PM
so now i have core temp 096,1 and showing 22 C...is that right?..

Hard to say right now. Many are still having problems with current coretemps. Some complain temps are to high for them at 40C idle.

UnSeenSVK
01-31-2008, 03:22 PM
I will try OC and will see what s happend with temperature..

but i think is right..that temperature...with that newest core temp...

cause i saw some E8400 on 4ghz with tem 46c...

UnSeenSVK
01-31-2008, 04:16 PM
i used same everest..shows 11C...

core temp 0.96.1 showing core 0 12C core 2 16 ....
when i running 3dmark06 core 0 shows... 17C and core 2... 16C

look

http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ddddui7.jpg

vik_d
01-31-2008, 04:28 PM
Wussup guys any answers to the problem it keeps failing the 3dmark test i get a blue screen and crashes and fails occt test after 5 minutes i need some help cant seem to get it stable trying for a week

bios 907

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) :Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.4000
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.35
DRAM Voltage : 1.90
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075
Loadline Calibration : Enabled

CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5


NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Grnfinger
01-31-2008, 04:35 PM
Wussup guys any answers to the problem it keeps failing the 3dmark test i get a blue screen and crashes and fails occt test after 5 minutes i need some help cant seem to get it stable trying for a week

bios 907

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) :Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.4000
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.35
DRAM Voltage : 1.90
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075
Loadline Calibration : Enabled

CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5


NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

I would up your NB volts to around 1.47 - 1.49 to start with
Your ram volts are kinda low imo, might want to adjust them alittle higher

if you can post some hardware info that would help alot

And depending on your cpu your vcore for 3.6 are a tad low

vik_d
01-31-2008, 04:46 PM
thnks for the reply i got asus maximus , crucial ballistix pc2 8500 , q6600 ,8800gt watercooling switech220,

ok i changed the vcore to 1.45, and nbv1.47 and ram 2.00 and its still failing the test? so u got any advice

vik_d
01-31-2008, 04:49 PM
thnks for the reply i got asus maximus , crucial ballistix pc2 8500 , q6600 ,8800gt watercooling switech220,

ok i changed the vcore to 1.45, and nbv1.47 and ram 2.00 and its still failing the test? so u got any advice

vik_d
01-31-2008, 05:05 PM
I changed the vcore to 1.46 now its stable and working thkns for the advice i was woundering what values you tihnk i should use if i want to get to 3.8?

Grnfinger
01-31-2008, 05:16 PM
I changed the vcore to 1.46 now its stable and working thkns for the advice i was woundering what values you tihnk i should use if i want to get to 3.8?

Just up vcore and ram volts (if you overclock the ram), you may also need to up NB volts for 3.8GHz I would start at 1.49 on the NB

good luck

Lestat
01-31-2008, 06:04 PM
Yes I need key or serial please
Does it work for maximus and vista , thanks

yeah we all would like keys but some of us around here actually pay for their software.

another stupid "yes i need a key" comment and i imagine you'll find your self in the "i was a retard and got banned" room.

Lestat
01-31-2008, 06:12 PM
I havent even started to push this cpu or the chipset & voltages.


http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/435/2008013100006yi9.jpg

ZenEffect
01-31-2008, 06:32 PM
yeah we all would like keys but some of us around here actually pay for their software.

another stupid "yes i need a key" comment and i imagine you'll find your self in the "i was a retard and got banned" room.
the guy could be rich :shrug:

Nhawk
01-31-2008, 07:07 PM
I just got the e8400 CPU, and now I can't seem to resume from Suspend any more.
I set the BIOS to S3 only, my old e6600 used to suspend just fine, but now it doesn't come up.
BIOS 907, WinXP SP3, Crucial PC2-8500
Asus Maximus Formula Mobo

UnSeenSVK
01-31-2008, 10:18 PM
i dont understand this my temperature..where is problem?...

http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hhhhko1.jpg

my temperature is 11C i don t understand this...why...?..please help me..where is problem?..cant be 11 C


Mb has 38C
NB has 50C
SB has 47C


and processor has still 11C

showing in bios...core temp..asus probe..everest...:mad:

UnSeenSVK
01-31-2008, 10:20 PM
i used same everest..shows 11C...

core temp 0.96.1 showing core 0 12C core 2 16 ....
when i running 3dmark06 core 0 shows... 17C and core 2... 16C

look

http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ddddui7.jpgccc

Grendel66
01-31-2008, 11:06 PM
Just dropped a E8400 into my Formula SE (907). My DTS temps are pegged at 45C no matter what I do or what program I use. Looks like the 8XXX series is kinda odd...

Spyrus
02-01-2008, 12:25 AM
With bios 0907 the difference is 10oC from probe to coretemp with E8400.
Just like what i had with 0903 and E6750 cpu.

So in my opinion 0903 reads E6xx temps well and 0907 E8xxx temps

Nuckin_Futs
02-01-2008, 01:21 AM
hallo mates...can anybody help me?..i cant change on my maximus formula
CPU Ratio Control from auto to manual ...couse i wanna change
Ratio CMOS Setting.

i m in windows and i ve got on 6x333 and if i start to do something it s change to 9,5 x 333 why?..

i wanna have still 9,5x333

what i hate to change in bios?..corry for my lanquage..i m slovakian from europe

Sounds like a Penrn core and this is normal for any TM capable CPU's since P4 ^xx. This saves power and reduces heat at idle or light load.

2 methods can do this and one is more responsive then the other. 1) is TM1/2 w/ C1E & 2nd) is EIST (Intel branded thermal control; Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology).

EIST is BIOS and chipset controlled so it uses more system resorce and is slower in responding since it has to go through chipset and back. TM2+C1E (C+P State) is much quicker as it is on die and reacts almost seamlessy. Now C+P State only gives the low and high multi at any time, nevedr inbetween. Whereas EIST will step multi from low to high and so you will feel this lag as it steps .5 (for Penryn) each time 1 hole number for Conroe & Prescott).

So in CMOS, disable EIST and enable TM and C1E mode. If overclocked, ASUS ACPI BIOS will automatically disable EIST for you as it is known to be unstable at FSB over 400 anyways. (Only Penryn 1600's will utilize this at 400FSB right now.

Now ASUS does not fully comply to C+P State as it is designed when you take vcore and multi out of AUTO. This is where the vcore would reduce to match the multi when idle or light load. But reducing at least the multi will reduce some heat and wear too.

I went more into this for all so others wll have a better understanding of C Stete and P State functions for ACPI (Advanced Configuration Power Interface).

If in the end, you want fixed multi, then just disable C1E wich reads the VID and Ratio from TM table off CPU. Now it can run full throttle but still have overheat protection of TM (Thermal Magament). In this mode, CPU ratio will only reduce n case of high heat to protect itself and or allow you to enter S4 or power down.

Nuckin_Futs
02-01-2008, 01:23 AM
hallo mates...can anybody help me?..i cant change on my maximus formula
CPU Ratio Control from auto to manual ...couse i wanna change
Ratio CMOS Setting.

i m in windows and i ve got on 6x333 and if i start to do something it s change to 9,5 x 333 why?..

i wanna have still 9,5x333

what i hate to change in bios?..corry for my lanquage..i m slovakian from europe

Sounds like a Penrn core and this is normal for any TM capable CPU's since P4 ^xx. This saves power and reduces heat at idle or light load.

2 methods can do this and one is more responsive then the other. 1) is TM1/2 w/ C1E & 2nd) is EIST (Intel branded thermal control; Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology).

EIST is BIOS and chipset controlled so it uses more system resorce and is slower in responding since it has to go through chipset and back. TM2+C1E (C+P State) is much quicker as it is on die and reacts almost seamlessy. Now C+P State only gives the low and high multi at any time, nevedr inbetween. Whereas EIST will step multi from low to high and so you will feel this lag as it steps .5 (for Penryn) each time 1 hole number for Conroe & Prescott).

So in CMOS, disable EIST and enable TM and C1E mode. If overclocked, ASUS ACPI BIOS will automatically disable EIST for you as it is known to be unstable at FSB over 400 anyways. (Only Penryn 1600's will utilize this at 400FSB right now.

Now ASUS does not fully comply to C+P State as it is designed when you take vcore and multi out of AUTO. This is where the vcore would reduce to match the multi when idle or light load. But reducing at least the multi will reduce some heat and wear too.

I went more into this for all so others wll have a better understanding of C Stete and P State functions for ACPI (Advanced Configuration Power Interface).

If in the end, you want fixed multi, then just disable C1E wich reads the VID and Ratio from TM table off CPU. Now it can run full throttle but still have overheat protection of TM (Thermal Management). In this mode, CPU ratio will only reduce n case of high heat to protect itself and or allow you to enter S4 or power down.

Hope this helps!

UnSeenSVK
02-01-2008, 03:24 AM
hallo mate can you explane me this?..


.i used same everest..shows 11C...

core temp 0.96.1 showing core 0 12C core 2 16 ....
when i running 3dmark06 core 0 shows... 17C and core 2... 16C

look

http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ddddui7.jpg


Sounds like a Penrn core and this is normal for any TM capable CPU's since P4 ^xx. This saves power and reduces heat at idle or light load.

2 methods can do this and one is more responsive then the other. 1) is TM1/2 w/ C1E & 2nd) is EIST (Intel branded thermal control; Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology).

EIST is BIOS and chipset controlled so it uses more system resorce and is slower in responding since it has to go through chipset and back. TM2+C1E (C+P State) is much quicker as it is on die and reacts almost seamlessy. Now C+P State only gives the low and high multi at any time, nevedr inbetween. Whereas EIST will step multi from low to high and so you will feel this lag as it steps .5 (for Penryn) each time 1 hole number for Conroe & Prescott).

So in CMOS, disable EIST and enable TM and C1E mode. If overclocked, ASUS ACPI BIOS will automatically disable EIST for you as it is known to be unstable at FSB over 400 anyways. (Only Penryn 1600's will utilize this at 400FSB right now.

Now ASUS does not fully comply to C+P State as it is designed when you take vcore and multi out of AUTO. This is where the vcore would reduce to match the multi when idle or light load. But reducing at least the multi will reduce some heat and wear too.

I went more into this for all so others wll have a better understanding of C Stete and P State functions for ACPI (Advanced Configuration Power Interface).

If in the end, you want fixed multi, then just disable C1E wich reads the VID and Ratio from TM table off CPU. Now it can run full throttle but still have overheat protection of TM (Thermal Management). In this mode, CPU ratio will only reduce n case of high heat to protect itself and or allow you to enter S4 or power down.

Hope this helps!

icecpu
02-01-2008, 09:17 AM
Can some one tell me what is the safe temp for the maximus northbridge , my show at 54C , Voltage is at 1.55,thanks

M-XXXX
02-01-2008, 09:20 AM
And my overclock on this mobo:
http://shrani.si/?46/d8/2GRgwoEA/4ghz.png
(i have inserted picture, but it doesn't work)

Lestat
02-01-2008, 09:34 AM
And my overclock on this mobo:
http://shrani.si/?46/d8/2GRgwoEA/4ghz.png
(i have inserted picture, but it doesn't work)


it doesnt work cuz your picture is too large. if you read the little warning that comes up it clearly states the file your trying to upload is too large.
its a png file @ 500kb.
pictures can only be 200kb

save it as a jpg and resize it since the picture doesnt need to be your entire desktop nor 1280x1024

M-XXXX
02-01-2008, 09:48 AM
I will remember this! (I thought it just make link to picture from the internet- I'm used this from other forums)
Its still in png, but is under 200kb:cool:
http://shrani.si/f/2J/jd/2eNphoKf/1/nova-bitna-slika.png

ZenEffect
02-01-2008, 09:55 AM
anyone try flashing to the rampage formula bios? i see that the beta is up on the asus website but im a too skirred to try myself... im wondering if anyone else has had success with this

bro20000
02-01-2008, 10:12 AM
Hi have just got this board and i wanted to know whats the different between a rev 1.02g and a 1.03g! Have got the 1.03g and my friends got the 1.02g!

Eastcoasthandle
02-01-2008, 10:32 AM
i used same everest..shows 11C...

core temp 0.96.1 showing core 0 12C core 2 16 ....
when i running 3dmark06 core 0 shows... 17C and core 2... 16C

look

http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ddddui7.jpg

The problem apparently is starting to getting recognition (http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/02/01/heat-probs-reported-intel). Remember, you are not the only one with this problem. Do a google search using the words "E8400 temperature problem" and see what comes up












Hi have just got this board and i wanted to know whats the different between a rev 1.02g and a 1.03g! Have got the 1.03g and my friends got the 1.02g!

1.02g = motherboard with waterblock on north bridge chipset
1.03g = motherboard with regular copper heat sink on north bridge chipset
from what I know.

iadstudio
02-01-2008, 10:49 AM
anyone try flashing to the rampage formula bios? i see that the beta is up on the asus website but im a too skirred to try myself... im wondering if anyone else has had success with this

With a non-removable bios chip it will take a brave person to try this.

Orbitech
02-01-2008, 11:49 AM
Ok I couldn't wait so I purchased myself a G0 and put it in my Formula..

I'm using the following settings in the bios for 3.6GHz

BIOS 907

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 120
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-961
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 6
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 42
Write Recovery Time : 7
Read to Precharge Time : 7

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) :Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.4000
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.70
North Bridge Voltage : 1.71
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50
South Bridge Voltage : 1.200
Loadline Calibration : Enabled

CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto


NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled


I ran SPI 32M and 2 hrs prime and it seemed to be stable. Then tonight I noticed my temps at core 0/1 were bigger than core 2/3 and after a SPI32m it produced an error.. Especially core 0 can reach 10-12Celcius higher than core 2/3. Core 1 is 5-6Celcious higher than core 2/3.. The fact is that cpu0 which depicts by far the higher idle/load temp is the only one that causes the instability even at 1.4vcore.. It reaches at 75C-78C sometimes and of course causes instability, while the other cores don't have problems whatsoever. Cpu1 reaches max 70-71 cpu2/3 max 68-69..

I tried to up the vcore to 1.425 and 1.45 but it only made cpu0 reach 75-78C quicker.. So the problem seems not to be the vcore but the hight temp that only this core depicts under load..

So what do you think is the case here? Do I need to test something else in the settings? Or are we talking about a uneven cpu surface? It could also be my Ultra 120 extreme that has the problem..

What do you suggest me to do in order to reach a stable 3.6GHz O/C?

v3rax
02-01-2008, 01:07 PM
I bought an open box Maximus Formula from a local retailer.

The BIOS it had on it was the 907... I could not change any settings in the GURU without getting a NO POST.

SO...I thought maybe a bad bios flash, so I downgraded to the 903....NOW, I can OC all I want, everything worked great to OC manually.

So.... I upgraded to the 907 again, flashed it the same way as the 903 that worked, .....NOW, I can't get it to post if I change anyting in the OC section of the BIOS.

Any ideas why the 907 will not let me even raise the FSB to 375 without a no post, yet the 903 will allow me to OC to 3.6..??

FZ1
02-01-2008, 02:32 PM
I bought an open box Maximus Formula from a local retailer.

The BIOS it had on it was the 907... I could not change any settings in the GURU without getting a NO POST.

SO...I thought maybe a bad bios flash, so I downgraded to the 903....NOW, I can OC all I want, everything worked great to OC manually.

So.... I upgraded to the 907 again, flashed it the same way as the 903 that worked, .....NOW, I can't get it to post if I change anyting in the OC section of the BIOS.

Any ideas why the 907 will not let me even raise the FSB to 375 without a no post, yet the 903 will allow me to OC to 3.6..??

What are your components? I used 0903 and 0907 and didn't see any differences in performance, temps, etc

v3rax
02-01-2008, 02:43 PM
I have an e8400, HIS HD3870, Ballistix PC6400 (2gb), PC P&C 750w silencer

Im guess if there is no difference It wont really matter if the 907 works, but I am just curious why the 903 will aloow me to do whatever I want in the BIOS and it boots fine, but when I put the 907 on, I can't post if I change anything at all..... the 907 will bott up and run fine as long as I keep it set to "load defaults" but as soon as I try to change anything in it, "NO POST"

I flashed the 907 the exact same way I flashed the 903, so I don't think it would be a bad flash...and I have tried the 907 I downloaded from the ASUS site and the one that is listed at the beginning of this forum, both did the same thing.

arfett
02-01-2008, 11:07 PM
907 BIOS
12 hours prime (64 bit version) stable on blend and small fft tests

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1180/36uh1.th.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36uh1.jpg) http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1384/prime95blendzs8.th.jpg (http://img221.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prime95blendzs8.jpg)
Here's a 10 hour run on blend. When I first got this chip it primed 12 hours but I didn't take any shots of it. I'll update with a pic of small fft for 10-12 hours when I prime again.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 9
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO
5-5-5-15

DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Disabled. Relax 1.

Since my board overvolts/undervolts a lot of settings I will list the actual voltage the board gives rather than the setting I put it on:
CPU Voltage : 1.352
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.610
North Bridge Voltage : 1.5
DRAM Voltage : 2.35
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.46
South Bridge Voltage : 1.1
Loadline Calibration : Enabled. without this on I was getting .3 vdroop drops!
CPU GTL Reference : .63
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.55

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled (enabling this makes prime 95 fail all cores in under 60 seconds!!!)
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

arfett
02-01-2008, 11:47 PM
So what do you think is the case here? Do I need to test something else in the settings? Or are we talking about a uneven cpu surface? It could also be my Ultra 120 extreme that has the problem..

What do you suggest me to do in order to reach a stable 3.6GHz O/C?

Your northbridge voltage is looking REALLY high to me and might be adding to the heat around the CPU. I have 1.5v running through my NB and it runs 400mhz just fine. I'm also assuming you're using DDR2-800 ram, you might want to try running it at 800mhz for a while and see if you still fail the stress tests. Prime95 the system for at least 8 hours and if it passes then you know the RAM was being pushed too far.

UnSeenSVK
02-02-2008, 02:48 AM
HALLO MATES ..CAN Somebody help me?..

i can t change in bios mhz of ram..there is only 800mhz..1000MHZ...934mhz...and 1111MHZ...but i wanna change to 1200MHZ...where can i find it?..

arfett
02-02-2008, 03:58 AM
HALLO MATES ..CAN Somebody help me?..

i can t change in bios mhz of ram..there is only 800mhz..1000MHZ...934mhz...and 1111MHZ...but i wanna change to 1200MHZ...where can i find it?..

Change the FSB strap to northbridge. Each strap has different settings for RAM speed. If you can't find what you're looking for you'll need to lower or raise your FSB.

Wolf2000me
02-02-2008, 05:17 AM
What's the usual threashold for northbridge temperature on this board?

eSp!s0
02-02-2008, 06:37 AM
I tested C1 and EIST last days and I can say, that EIST does nothing, when VCore is set manually. And C1 does clockrates down by using smallest multiplicator in Idle.
But lowering VCore does not work with VCore set manually.
All in all you can say, that EIST is useless when OCing. C1 lowering multiplicator does even work with 500x7 for me and I`m using it while OCing, no problems.

WFO
02-02-2008, 12:05 PM
Here are my settings for 417 X 9. So far it's 48 hours folding stable. I tried 423 X 9 and it would boot to Windows but failed prime95 immediately. I would have had to use over 1.5 vcore for stability. That was more than I wanted to put through it for 24/7 use. Core temps, 44,45,44 & 42. NB 30C. Ambient 70F.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 417
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 103
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1002
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Secondary Info 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled relax level 0
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.475 Bios 1.456 Windows
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 Bios 1.61 due to overvolting
North Bridge Voltage : 1.43
DRAM Voltage : 1.96
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.100
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference :
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Enabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Auto

Robin77
02-02-2008, 03:14 PM
Can some one tell me what is the safe temp for the maximus northbridge , my show at 54C , Voltage is at 1.55,thanks

It's around 96 C. I posted in this threat a link to original Intel thermal design spec sheet, whre you can find this value. I habe 69 C unloaded and around 76 loaded. This are values from 100% stable overcloced. So your NB temps are pretty good and u needn't care.

Grnfinger
02-02-2008, 03:55 PM
It's around 96 C. I posted in this threat a link to original Intel thermal design spec sheet, whre you can find this value. I habe 69 C unloaded and around 76 loaded. This are values from 100% stable overcloced. So your NB temps are pretty good and u needn't care.

Your NB idles at 69c???
personaly I would care ALOT unless your looking to replace that mobo in June

I would rather hear what Asus has to say on the NB temps not Intel

WFO
02-02-2008, 08:37 PM
Your NB idles at 69c???
personaly I would care ALOT unless your looking to replace that mobo in June

I would rather hear what Asus has to say on the NB temps not Intel

Agreed. If you read this thread (item 3) http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=162085 , you would know that Anantech (raju) found that over 47C on the NB caused instabilities. Having read Raju's posts on many boards, I would not question his conclusions. :up:

Mauri Antero
02-03-2008, 01:49 AM
So far I'm frustrated to board since it wont go over 536fsb no matter what i do, that isnt the cpu that blocks me there since I've tried my e6850 with ss and dryice and 8400 pros and 536fsb is the max to get. :(
Otherwise nice mobo

nut311
02-03-2008, 04:52 AM
I found Maximus 1.03G mix with Crucial 8500 my board doesn't work 1200mhz mem speed, i try vdimm 2.45v 1200 5-5-5-15 system freeze

any advice? what BIOS maximus good for OC ?

CERO
02-03-2008, 05:02 AM
my maximus runs with tracers pc8500 1200mhz 5-5-5-12 @ 2.00v actual ( 1.94v bioset, board overvolts lol) np.. I tried 0802/ 0903/ 0907 all works, ofc each kit differs... u might have a bad stick

UnSeenSVK
02-03-2008, 05:21 AM
i have sthe same problem,i ve got Kingston HyperX 1200Mhz..and a cant run at 5.5.5 15 2T 1200mhz.. with bios 0907...

i don t understand..my voltage is 2,35...i m unhappy ...:mad:


I found Maximus 1.03G mix with Crucial 8500 my board doesn't work 1200mhz mem speed, i try vdimm 2.45v 1200 5-5-5-15 system freeze

any advice? what BIOS maximus good for OC ?

nut311
02-03-2008, 06:01 AM
my maximus runs with tracers pc8500 1200mhz 5-5-5-12 @ 2.00v actual ( 1.94v bioset, board overvolts lol) np.. I tried 0802/ 0903/ 0907 all works, ofc each kit differs... u might have a bad stick

in Biostar TP35 my Ballistix can run 1200++ 4-4-4-4 2.5v:D http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=283533

bad maximus (unlucky got), memory issues or memory setting not match? but in maximus my ballistix "only" stable run 1100 5-5-4-9 1.9v(bios) when up to 1200 .....my system freeze

now i will try with Team Xtreem 8500 but same condition.....

bro20000
02-03-2008, 06:29 AM
I can run my 4GB of Ballistix Tracers at 1200Mhz 5,5,5,15 using the 907 Bios!

UnSeenSVK
02-03-2008, 09:03 AM
i don t know if somebody understand what i mean,but i have on MB 2x4pins connectors...do i have to use both?...i ve got asus maximus formula...i m using just one 4pin...

Spyrus
02-03-2008, 10:14 AM
Woldfale 8400 + Crucial Value 800 MHz
24/7 orthos stable
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 4
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 2
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 25
Write Recovery Time : 2
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Enabled
Boost Level :0

CPU Voltage : 1.32500
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.2
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Enabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Grnfinger
02-03-2008, 10:24 AM
Woldfale 8400 + Crucial Value 800 MHz
24/7 orthos stable
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 4
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 2
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 25
Write Recovery Time : 2
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Enabled
Boost Level :0

CPU Voltage : 1.32500
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.2
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Enabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

nice chip you got

GFORCE100
02-03-2008, 10:30 AM
i have sthe same problem,i ve got Kingston HyperX 1200Mhz..and a cant run at 5.5.5 15 2T 1200mhz.. with bios 0907...

i don t understand..my voltage is 2,35...i m unhappy ...:mad:

Hypermax PC2-9600 works fine with this board. Bump up the MCH voltage.

UnSeenSVK
02-03-2008, 10:55 AM
what s the mch voltage?


Hypermax PC2-9600 works fine with this board. Bump up the MCH voltage.

GFORCE100
02-03-2008, 12:10 PM
what s the mch voltage?

The northbridge, X38.

Set it to 1.55V or so and try again. I have 4x 1GB sticks in mine and works fine at 1200 but you must disable Transaction Booster/AI Booster unless you're doing 8x450. Using 9x400 it won't work if you have them enabled to Strong/Enabled = 0.

UnSeenSVK
02-03-2008, 12:48 PM
i m using 9,5 x 450



The northbridge, X38.

Set it to 1.55V or so and try again. I have 4x 1GB sticks in mine and works fine at 1200 but you must disable Transaction Booster/AI Booster unless you're doing 8x450. Using 9x400 it won't work if you have them enabled to Strong/Enabled = 0.

jorgito05
02-03-2008, 01:02 PM
i don t know if somebody understand what i mean,but i have on MB 2x4pins connectors...do i have to use both?...i ve got asus maximus formula...i m using just one 4pin...

yes you do need 2x4 if you are using a quad core pg 2-34 and 2-35 of the maximus motherboard user guide, if your psu is 400w or less it only has 4 pin you will need to get proper power suplly. I recomend thermaltake 1000w it is ATI sertified also

jacek
02-03-2008, 01:20 PM
CELLSHOCK 9200 works fine with this board. :D
There is only one problem...... i cant boot at 1200 cl4. i tried 2.7V and it doesn't help. i don't know what is the reason that caused this problem.
Maybe the next bios will be better.

2.38V - bios :bounce:
550, cl4 full stable.

UnSeenSVK
02-03-2008, 01:21 PM
i ve got OCZ 1099W :)


yes you do need 2x4 if you are using a quad core pg 2-34 and 2-35 of the maximus motherboard user guide, if your psu is 400w or less it only has 4 pin you will need to get proper power suplly. I recomend thermaltake 1000w it is ATI sertified also

GFORCE100
02-03-2008, 01:48 PM
i m using 9,5 x 450

In that case the BIOS will report DRAM as 1199MHz and you can have strong AI booster and transaction booster enabled = 0 configured.

It works here with the only difference that I have tested it at 9x450 and 8x450.

Do what I said with the MCH voltage and set the timings manually, i.e. 5-5-5-12.

On mine 1200MHz will work at down to 2.06V set in the BIOS though I run it at 2.10V at 1133MHz due to my Q66090 overclock.

UnSeenSVK
02-03-2008, 02:29 PM
thanks mate...i m gonna try...i ll let zou know tommorow

Eastcoasthandle
02-03-2008, 04:30 PM
Can anyone get your PC8500 ram to either:
- 4-4-4-12
-higher then 1066MHz without having to OC to get it?

If so what do you need to do exactly? I cannot get 4-4-4-12 at 2.10V in bios at 400 FSB (E8400). I haven't tried a higher frequency because it's a pain to have to take out the ram, use PC6400 to boot back up then reinstall the pC8500 ram when something goes wrong. This bios 907 is the pits when it comes to ram adjustments with my PC8500!

.OCX
02-03-2008, 07:46 PM
Can anyone get your PC8500 ram to either:
- 4-4-4-12
-higher then 1066MHz without having to OC to get it?

If so what do you need to do exactly? I cannot get 4-4-4-12 at 2.10V in bios at 400 FSB (E8400). I haven't tried a higher frequency because it's a pain to have to take out the ram, use PC6400 to boot back up then reinstall the pC8500 ram when something goes wrong. This bios 907 is the pits when it comes to ram adjustments with my PC8500!

Have you tried slots 2 & 4?

Seemed to fix the bug when Overclocks fail and default values are loaded, which lowers the vdimm to 1.9v which is too low for 1066 rated sticks. 667/800 1.9v for me 1066 2.35v:eek: .

Try:
-Slots 2 & 4
-DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2
-What is your FSB Term in Bios Set to? I noticed mine went from overvolt to undervolt from e6750 to e8400???

binormalkilla
02-03-2008, 07:48 PM
Here we go, stable for over 4 hours in Everest stability.
http://aycu06.webshots.com/image/44325/2002135794554585016_rs.jpg

Eastcoasthandle
02-03-2008, 08:21 PM
Have you tried slots 2 & 4?

Seemed to fix the bug when Overclocks fail and default values are loaded, which lowers the vdimm to 1.9v which is too low for 1066 rated sticks. 667/800 1.9v for me 1066 2.35v:eek: .

Try:
-Slots 2 & 4
-DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2
-What is your FSB Term in Bios Set to? I noticed mine went from overvolt to undervolt from e6750 to e8400???

-slots 1/2
-FSB Term 1.20V
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage: Auto <-any link to explain what this does?

UnSeenSVK
02-04-2008, 02:14 AM
how can help me please...?..i can t get from my ram maximum...:mad:

i ve got that kingston hyperX 1200mhz..and is runnig at 920mhz and it is not stale...:(


http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=suckbt7.jpg

Spyrus
02-04-2008, 02:27 AM
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage
This is the dram vtt. Should be half of the vdimm in most cases.
It helps stabilizing the vdimm. Leave it at DDR2_REF and use also
the white slots. These seems well so as not to have ripple on vdimm when
stressing memory

.OCX
02-04-2008, 03:02 AM
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1080 (5:6)
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
Ai Clock Twister : STRONG
Transaction Booster : DISABLED
BOOST: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.28125 ~ 1.264v
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto ~ 1.648v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61~1.65v
DRAM Voltage : 2.24~2.352v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4~1.344v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.1~1.136v
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO ~ 1.184v
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO ~ 1.184v
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.6V ~ 1.664v

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 = DISABLED
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

BUGCODE_USB_DRIVER
Caused by: Nostromo N52 Speed pad (http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=157024)
-Happens after windows has loaded to desktop and loads drivers
-Does not happen if device is not plugged in, will happen after boot if you plug in regardless.
-Will happen in the absence of PS/2 Keyboard.
-Installed Latest Intel inf Drivers and Nostromo Drivers

This occurred in the past, but usually could be solved by a 3rd or 4th restart. However, as I clock higher it becomes more prevalent around 440-450

-Tried SBv 1.2
-Tried SB 1.5v = 1.6~
-SBv 1.1 & SB1.5v= 1.6 Success. Restarts are Good, Bug Gone...right?

This occurred in the past, but usually could be solved by a 3rd or 4th restart. 333 is the latest strap I'm trying since it only pushes to DDR2-1080 on 5:6. Restarts were great, it was like it was solved by 1.6v SB.
-Lowered SB 1.6v to 1.55v and it was back
-Switched back to my saved profile for 400 Strap 435*9 known stable.
-Restart it happens again. SB was at 1.5 in that saved 400 Strap Profile.
-Restarted again, only this time start opening folders and just kind of going psycho to try to "fool" it into missing my little bug. Imagine a burglar hiding from the police...

And its gone... Anyone have a Nostromo N52 they can verify this with?

***UPDATE***
-Tried 333 Strap Profile and Restarted - Didn't Touch any Keys on Nostromo or on Mx518 Mouse.
-Got Bugcode BSOD again.
-Restarted
-Tried Mashing Buttons upon XP desktop bootup
-Open files with Mouse, pressed keys on Nostromo (More like Mashing)
-It Works!

brisk
02-04-2008, 05:40 AM
one question...
does our boards require more voltage to OC the cpu than others?
it seems like others are reaching 3.5 on around 1.3volts while we need 1.3volts to reach 3.0...or is that just my board....

help please!

Dostoyevsky77
02-04-2008, 05:46 AM
Brisk, it depends. On my QX6700, I need less vCore than on a P5N32-E. But on my E8400, I need a lot more than most people are reporting (1.45v @ 4.23).

Do you have a B3 or a G0 Q6600?

I ordered a new E8400 to see if I can rule-out the chip.

joe.denice
02-04-2008, 05:46 AM
ok so I own this board and the evga 780i and my options are to keep this and use a 3870x2 or use the 780i board and 2 8800gtx's.... Thoughts??

Robin77
02-04-2008, 06:38 AM
Agreed. If you read this thread (item 3) http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=162085 , you would know that Anantech (raju) found that over 47C on the NB caused instabilities. Having read Raju's posts on many boards, I would not question his conclusions. :up:

I already read this, but again, if you read my postings you would know that my MB works rock stable (testet 48 hours running prime on both cores of my CPU and 3DMark 06 simultaniously).
And what has more weight? Whatever Asus may claim (if they'd even do so) or what Intel the builder of the NB officially testet out and made public in their tech specs....

The answer is of caurse that Intel is right and my rockstable low idle temp of ~69 C prove this.
I can't tell you why anansdtech has problems with temps that are on the very low side of the allowed temps. Maybe they should RMA their board.
Also when you read all posts from http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=160945&page=156
you'll notice that there are indeed more users without problems running NB temps of 50 C.

What I just want to point here clearely out is that noone needs to care about totally good NB temps below 90 C. This is what was testet from Intel and this is what many examples prove.



One question: are u guys with that low NB temps using the little fan that is in the package that anandtec recommends for cooling the NB? That would (maybe) explain your ultralow temps of 45 C or even less.

UnSeenSVK
02-04-2008, 06:55 AM
..i m really nervous..couse that ram doesn t work.. i tied everithink,,if i change somethink in bios system freez....

look... i have to have everythink on auto...CPU clocking is ok but a want get more from ram

http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=beznzvumk0.jpg

chensen78
02-04-2008, 08:47 AM
i just got my maximus formula. the problem is i can't get to bios setup with my keyboard. it's razer tarantula with USB connection. is there a fix?

Wolf2000me
02-04-2008, 09:17 AM
I see on a lot of setups that the PCI-E frequency is set above 100Mhz. Usually 110Mhz. I thought I'd give that a shot myself but during a 3dmark session I got a BSOD. So what's the increase in PCI-E freq. for?

Eastcoasthandle
02-04-2008, 10:04 AM
I see on a lot of setups that the PCI-E frequency is set above 100Mhz. Usually 110Mhz. I thought I'd give that a shot myself but during a 3dmark session I got a BSOD. So what's the increase in PCI-E freq. for?

Other boards required that you increase PCIe frequency when you OC'd or else you run into component stability problems (HD, etc). However, from what I've seen so far Asus boards don't require you to increase the PCIe frequency when you OC.

Eastcoasthandle
02-04-2008, 10:07 AM
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage
This is the dram vtt. Should be half of the vdimm in most cases.
It helps stabilizing the vdimm. Leave it at DDR2_REF and use also
the white slots. These seems well so as not to have ripple on vdimm when
stressing memory

thanks!

Wolf2000me
02-04-2008, 10:12 AM
Other boards required that you increase PCIe frequency when you OC'd or else you run into component stability problems (HD, etc). However, from what I've seen so far Asus boards don't require you to increase the PCIe frequency when you OC.

I'd have ran into trouble with my raid array if the board did require an increased PCI-E freq then.
Thanks for the info :)

Eastcoasthandle
02-04-2008, 10:14 AM
how can help me please...?..i can t get from my ram maximum...:mad:

i ve got that kingston hyperX 1200mhz..and is runnig at 920mhz and it is not stale...:(


http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=suckbt7.jpg

What is the rated voltage of your ram and what do you have dram voltage set to?

PCI-E Frequency: 100
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Enabled (FSB Strap to North Bridge = 400)
BOOST: 0

OR
Transaction Booster : Disabled (FSB Strap to North Bridge = 333)
BOOST: 0

DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

This tid bit of information may or may not help you.

Jodiuh
02-04-2008, 10:15 AM
One question: are u guys with that low NB temps using the little fan that is in the package that anandtec recommends for cooling the NB? That would (maybe) explain your ultralow temps of 45 C or even less.

I'm using a quiet 5CFM 40mm from the Jing Ting NB Cooler. Dropped temps 7C.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jodiuh/Asus%20Maximus/th_IMG_2271.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jodiuh/Asus&#37;20Maximus/IMG_2271.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jodiuh/Asus%20Maximus/th_IMG_2270.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jodiuh/Asus%20Maximus/IMG_2270.jpg)

Eastcoasthandle
02-04-2008, 10:17 AM
I'd have ran into trouble with my raid array if the board did require an increased PCI-E freq then.
Thanks for the info :)

No problem, one of the main reason why PCI-E Frequency 100 was used instead of auto was to prevent it from going over or under 100. However, that was a long time ago. As you can see motherboards have improved since then. On my P5W I had mine set to Auto with the CPU set to 3.6GHz with 2 HDs and never had any problems. However, I didn't have a raid either :p:

Wolf2000me
02-04-2008, 11:11 AM
I used to run a raid array on my nforce2 board with high FSB. Short term problems were never really there but I did kill more disks than originally anticipated. And that's with a bus frequency lock enabled.
On my old via board my disks didn't die that easily and these bus frequencies weren't locked. The PCI frequency was way out of spec but my brother is still running that board with original raid0 disk setup. I bought those back in 2002. I guess it's all relative :)

Grnfinger
02-04-2008, 01:18 PM
I already read this, but again, if you read my postings you would know that my MB works rock stable (testet 48 hours running prime on both cores of my CPU and 3DMark 06 simultaniously).
And what has more weight? Whatever Asus may claim (if they'd even do so) or what Intel the builder of the NB officially testet out and made public in their tech specs....

The answer is of caurse that Intel is right and my rockstable low idle temp of ~69 C prove this.
I can't tell you why anansdtech has problems with temps that are on the very low side of the allowed temps. Maybe they should RMA their board.
Also when you read all posts from http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=160945&page=156
you'll notice that there are indeed more users without problems running NB temps of 50 C.

What I just want to point here clearely out is that noone needs to care about totally good NB temps below 90 C. This is what was testet from Intel and this is what many examples prove.



One question: are u guys with that low NB temps using the little fan that is in the package that anandtec recommends for cooling the NB? That would (maybe) explain your ultralow temps of 45 C or even less.

I didnt buy the SE to cool it with a fan:rofl:
my NB hits 45 at full load not idle

Prodigys
02-04-2008, 01:36 PM
Guys, what for settings should i use for 475 x 9 ?

This is for an Q6600 G0...

Zucker2k
02-04-2008, 02:01 PM
Guys, what for settings should i use for 475 x 9 ?

This is for an Q6600 G0...

Goodluck overclocking that sucker! :up:

Prodigys
02-04-2008, 02:24 PM
Goodluck overclocking that sucker! :up:

Q6600 G0 L737B242 VID 1.169 ;) .

4Ghz on 1.42VCore; 24 hour prime stable. That's why i ask for settings of 475 x 9 :up: .

CERO
02-04-2008, 02:38 PM
very nice rare cpu u got there:), mine got exact same PFO, but it has a VID of 1.2125 :up:

neo_rtr
02-04-2008, 03:15 PM
I'm using a quiet 5CFM 40mm from the Jing Ting NB Cooler. Dropped temps 7C.


I did try that method as well. yes it did drop some on mine. but i didnt thought that was not good enough so i added a 80mm fan, standing on the vga. with a 80mm fan to blow 1/2 at the NB 1/2 on the memory was getting about 42C idle room temp 24c
The case is Stacker 832 with side panel 4 fans and running a QX6700 @ 3.6Ghz with NBvolt 1,65V (1,71V in everest) was getting about 47C full load (crysis for several hours for example)

With out fan idle i wrote down the following temps, idle, at the time
Cpu 31C,MB 48C, NB 45-48C, SB 43C
on load was getting mb,nb,sb aprox 55C

now runnign watercooling and getting top 42C on load
NB core is reported 1.70v by everest
Bios 0907

Ps i regret i did not remove and re apply thermal paste to it before the WC was installed.

iTravis
02-04-2008, 05:14 PM
I'm at 3.5Ghz stable with vcore at 1.46V (too high?) and I have trouble at 3.6Ghz, it keeps failing OCCT after couple mins or so. And whenever I set Transaction Booster to Disable or Enable, system won't boot. This is my settings for 3.5 OCCT stable so maybe you guys can make some suggestions for 3.6?
BIOS 0907
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency :389
FSB Strap to North Bridge :400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-778
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.46v
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51v
DRAM Voltage : 2.10v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.5v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05v
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5v

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : ENABLED

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Talonman
02-04-2008, 06:25 PM
I too am looking for advice. :)

Currently running at 3.7GHz, was wondering if I could get 3.8GHz or even the coveted 4.0GHz? :D

My Maximus is on water, and kept in a cold 61F(Today) Ohio basement.

This is a screen shot I just took minutes ago, using the BIOS settings listed below.
My temps are currently reflecting just over 1 hour of hard labor running Prime95: :up:
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4693/run7wz7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

These are my current best BIOS 907 settings: Always looking for advice. ;)

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 414
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-828MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.46250v (BIOS)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51v (BIOS)
DRAM Voltage : 1.80v (BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44v (BIOS)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05v (BIOS)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled

Things that seem to be currently true on my system:

If I enable Transaction Booster with all other BIOS setting the same as listed above, the system will err out on the LCD Poster during the RAM check.

It dosen't seem to matter if I use the 333 or the 400 NB FSB Strap, If I set my FSB Frequency above 414, Prime95 will register an error within 45 minutes. The higher you set it above 414, the quicker you receive the error. OCCT is not as pickey. Prime95 was the first to complain using a 415 FSB Frequency.

Doing some fine tuning...

I walked the NB voltage down to 1.49v before starting to get Prime95 errors. I then moved the voltage back up to 1.51v and successfully primed for 1.5 hours. 1.51v Is what I am currently using, and is listed above.

I started to see how much CPU voltage it takes for me to successfully run @ 3.7GHz. A BIOS setting of 1.46250v has already passed a 1.5 hour Prime95 test error free for me. I still continued the process down to a BIOS setting of 1.45v's. Prime95 began to register errors at this point. I set my CPU voltage back up to 1.46250v and am currently using it for my keeper setting.

Note: I am currently running on 1 2GB stick of ram in the White slot closest to the CPU. The other stick would not allow my system to boot no matter what slot I tried it in. LCD Poster would fail the RAM check.

My RAM is rated at 1.8v's and 5-5-5-18 by Corsair.

ZenEffect
02-04-2008, 07:20 PM
^^^to this guy... here is my settings for just below 4ghz... and imma run this every day, by the time this cpu burns up *been overclocking for years and years and years... even oc'd a amd 80486dx4 to 112mhz and ive NEVER EVER seen a processor go bad from general everyday use with these volts* it will be long past overdue for an upgrade.


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 438
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1167
DRAM Command Rate : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Enabled
Boost level 0
CPU Voltage : 1.506
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.46
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : DISABLED

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Enabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/now.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/primestable.jpg
:up:
sorry pics are a few days old before i lapped cpu
going for 4 prime stable this weekend... gonna lap my waterblock as i see its got a few good scratches from bad shipping and bring my cpu up to 2000 grit *1200 right now lapped it yesterday*
temps were mid to high 60's full load depending on amb temps:( now low 60's :)

the epu/loadline calibration on this thing must be working because my idle volts are less than load 1.488 idle 1.496 load... i thought i was supposed to get less volts under load *vdroop* :shrug:

1 last thing... HOW POINTLESS IS THAT SILLY LITTLE FAN THEY INCLUDED TO COOL DOWN THE PWM? LMAO!! A HAMSTER ON A WHEEL COULD GENERATE MORE AIR

why do i have a creative sound icon and a soundmax icon on the bottom right? BECAUSE MY X-FI TOOK A BIG FAT DUMP. thank god for rma

Zucker2k
02-04-2008, 07:32 PM
Time to start applying some pressure on those bios engineers through tech support:

ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. (Taiwan)
Technical Support
Hotline: +886-2-2894-3447 (0800-093-456)
Email: http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techserv.aspx

Knock yourselves out.

ZenEffect
02-04-2008, 07:54 PM
Time to start applying some pressure on those bios engineers through tech support:

ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. (Taiwan)
Technical Support
Hotline: +886-2-2894-3447 (0800-093-456)
Email: http://vip.asus.com/eservice/techserv.aspx

Knock yourselves out.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/done.jpg

fordf250
02-04-2008, 08:36 PM
I didnt buy the SE to cool it with a fan:rofl:
my NB hits 45 at full load not idle

I got a very good nb then as it runs 33-36C full load on air at 545fsb and 1.71Vnb with a 120mm 80cfm fan set at 5V.

Warboy
02-04-2008, 09:07 PM
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/done.jpg

:rofl:

Talonman
02-05-2008, 12:53 AM
^^^to this guy... here is my settings for just below 4ghz... and imma run this every day, by the time this cpu burns up *been overclocking for years and years and years... even oc'd a amd 80486dx4 to 112mhz and ive NEVER EVER seen a processor go bad from general everyday use with these volts* it will be long past overdue for an upgrade.


Thanks for the post...

Looking at your settings I Changed:
DRAM Static Read Control: From Disabled to Enabled.
Ai Clock Twister : From Light to Strong.
CPU TM Function : From Disabled to Enabled.
Vanderpool Technology : From Disabled to Enabled.
Legacy USB Support : From Disabled to Enabled.

Primed for 1 hour error free. Keeping all setting changes.

That was the easy part... :)

Test - FSB FREQ From 414 to 416 using Prime95 - Result: Core 2 Hardware Failure in 4 minutes.
(Verified current setting still cause errors above a 414 FSB Freq.)

Test - Kept 416 FSB FREQ, but increased FSB Term volts from 1.44 to 1.46 - Result: Core 3 Hardware Failure in 4 minutes.

Test - Kept 416 FSB and FSB Term 1.46v, but also changed:
CPU Voltage : From 1.46250v to 1.506.
CPU PLL Voltage : From 1.50v to 1.56.
Result: Prime95 ran error free for 10 minutes.

Test - Restored FSB Term volts to 1.44
Kept - CPU Voltage of 1.506, and CPU PLL Voltage of 1.56, but also increased FSB FREQ to 418.
Result: Prime95 ran error free for 10 minutes.
(I do not believe upping the Term volts was helping me with my FSB wall. I returned them to what the were and still ran clean with the upped CPU voltages.)

Test - Kept CPU Voltage of 1.506, and CPU PLL Voltage of 1.56, but also increased FSB FREQ to 420.
Result: Prime95 ran error free for 10 minutes.
(Short test but looking good)

Test - Kept CPU Voltage of 1.506, and CPU PLL Voltage of 1.56, but also increased FSB FREQ to 430.
Result: System booted into Vista fine, and had the CPU clocked to 3.87GHz, but Core 3 had a Hardware Failure in 3 minutes.

Test - Kept CPU Voltage of 1.506, and CPU PLL Voltage of 1.56, but also lowered FSB FREQ to 425.
Result: Prime95 ran error free for 10 minutes!

I wanted to see if I could successfully run a 430 FSB, but only up the CPU PLL Voltage, not the CPU voltage:
Test - Kept CPU Voltage of 1.506, but upped CPU PLL Voltage from 1.56 to 1.62, and returned the FSB FREQ to 430.
Result: Hardware Failure in 3 minutes.

Tried again by upping the CPU PLL Voltage more!
Test - Kept CPU Voltage of 1.506, but upped CPU PLL Voltage from 1.62 to 1.64, and kept the FSB FREQ to 430.
Result: Hardware Failure in 3 minutes.

Action Taken: Returned the CPU PLL Voltage to 1.56v

Conclusion: My FSB Frequency wall of 414 was being directly caused by the voltage supplied to the CPU's core. My CPU Voltage setting of 1.46250v (BIOS), only will get me my 3.7GHz on my Q6600.

My new CPU Voltage setting of 1.46250v (BIOS), looks to be good for about 3.8GHz. Everest does read lower than the BIOS'es setting, but how high can I feel good about setting my voltage to in the BIOS for my Q6600?

I think I could have 4.0GHz if I am willing to overvolt my CPU a bit more?

These are my current best BIOS 907 settings: Always looking for advice. ;)

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-850MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.506v (BIOS)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56v (BIOS)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51v (BIOS)
DRAM Voltage : 1.80v (BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44v (BIOS)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05v (BIOS)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Enabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled

Spyrus
02-05-2008, 01:39 AM
When testing fsb it should be good to reduce performance level.
This can help you a lot since nb voltage can be reduced.
For example i can go to 490@5:6 strap333 with 1.5nb voltage and disabled/0=>PL=7.
But after changing disabled/1=>PL=8 at 490 i needed only 1.31nb voltage
and could run past 500+ fsb with ease. After that you can test cpu fsb and try
again for PL=7 but you will need more nb volt juice there.

CoolZone
02-05-2008, 01:49 AM
has anyone tried to run the Maximus Formula with Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR1000?I must find out if it works ok before I buy.Can anyone help me?
I have 4x1GB DDR1000 of these

[XC]Atomicpineapple
02-05-2008, 07:15 AM
Just got my Maximus Formula today. Is Vdroop/undervolting still an issue with the latest BIOS (0907) and LLC enabled? Also can PCProbe be trusted for voltages as I cant find Vcore/ Vdimm read points anywhere!

rbsmontemor
02-05-2008, 08:43 AM
I just don't know if I shoud buy this mobo or a Giga X38 DQ6.

I'm now with my friend's GA-X38-DQ6 and its stable at 475x8, but not 500Mhz FSB. Prime at 4000Mhz 445x9 for 2 hours (it's good to me). My old P5K reboots at first second of Prime95 @ 4000Mhz, but can do 475Mhz FSB stable too. I tried everything.

Another friend has one P5E3 and I can prime this Q6600 @ 510Mhz FSB...but cannot prime @ 4000Mhz for nothing in this world.

I just don't know what do to about. Someone can run your Q6600 at 475Mhz FSB stable on performance level 7? Coz' thats what I have with my friend's GA-X38-DQ6.

Someone help my brain is colapsed heheh, don't know what to choose. I just went from a DFI P35 TR2 that cannot even boot into windows @ 475Mhz FSB..and believe me, I know how to tweak that thing.

Well, sorry for the long post, but I'm really confused hehe :wth:

Rbs.
:wave:

Talonman
02-05-2008, 09:52 AM
When testing fsb it should be good to reduce performance level.
This can help you a lot since nb voltage can be reduced.
For example i can go to 490@5:6 strap333 with 1.5nb voltage and disabled/0=>PL=7.
But after changing disabled/1=>PL=8 at 490 i needed only 1.31nb voltage
and could run past 500+ fsb with ease. After that you can test cpu fsb and try
again for PL=7 but you will need more nb volt juice there.

Thanks for the good advice...
I will try to up my NB a tad to see it that let's me Prime error free using a higher FSB value. :)
When you say performance level, you mean CPU Ratio Setting : 9 correct?
I'm a Newbie!! :)
Note: My CPU core voltage is set to 1.506v in the BIOS, but Everest is only reporting 1.49volts, so I may not be actually over-volting my CPU as much as I may think...

Keeping my new CPU voltage settings, I tried to run Prime95 using a FSB Frequency of:
428 - Result: Prime error in 4 minutes.
427 - Result: Prime error in 4 minutes.
426 - Result: Prime error in 10 minutes.
425 - Result: Prime error in 23 minutes!
424 - Result: Prime stable for 1 Glorious hour!! (Keeping 424 for now)

This makes my memory run at 848MHz, and gives me a Core speed of 3816.3MHz.
Not by much, but still enouigh to officially get me into the 3.8GHz club! :woot:
Prime doing it's thing crossing the hour mark error free. Still looking :cool: too.
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/5362/run8ql4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

These are my current best BIOS 907 settings for 3.81GHz: Always looking for advice. ;)

Under Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 424
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-848MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.506v (BIOS)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56v (BIOS)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51v (BIOS)
DRAM Voltage : 1.80v (BIOS)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44v (BIOS)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05v (BIOS)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v (BIOS)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Under Advanced
And CPU Configuration:
CPU Ratio Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Under Advanced
And USB Configuration :
USB Functions: Enabled
USB 2.0 Controller : Enabled
BIOS EHCI Hand-off : Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled
Port 64/60 Emulation : Disabled

ZenEffect
02-05-2008, 09:59 AM
you will probably will need more core volts to get stable higher. so long as your cpu is staying cool you should be fine. :up:
go for 4!

Jaekae
02-05-2008, 10:03 AM
Hi im new with overclocking ( first day today :p ) so i would like to get a little help to get my system stable at 4 ghz. I have a e8400 , maximus formula and crucial ballistix 8500.

current settings are
_________________________________
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 435
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-870
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.31
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
________________________________________

I ran it 30 min in orthos without any problems and tried 3d mark and got 14325 score, but tested cod4 later and had a bit of fps drops.

Any settings i can change to get it more stable? will try get fsb to 445 later.

Talonman
02-05-2008, 10:09 AM
It would be nice to have a number in my head that I should not cross in the BIOS settings.... :)

Anybody have a BIOS Warning voltage that using the Maximus and a Q6600 could get you into trouble fast? :shrug:

It's probably more about heat, but still some voltage 'upper limit' numbers would be nice... ;)

So far With the Maximus and my Q6600 GO:
My CPU Voltage setting of 1.46250v (BIOS), will allow error free Priming with a FSB Frequency 414 giving me 3.7GHz with my 400 NB Strap.
My CPU Voltage setting of 1.506v (BIOS), will allow error free Priming with a FSB Frequency 424 giving me 3.8GHz with my 400 NB Strap.

eSp!s0
02-05-2008, 10:26 AM
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/done.jpg

:ROTF: :rofl:
You made my day :D

Spyrus
02-05-2008, 10:32 AM
Thanks for the good advice...
I will try to up my NB a tad to see it that let's me Prime error free using a higher FSB value. :)
When you say performance level, you mean CPU Ratio Setting : 9 correct?
I'm a Newbie!! :)
Note: My CPU core voltage is set to 1.506v in the BIOS, but Everest is only reporting 1.49volts, so I may not be actually over-volting my CPU as much as I may think...



Performance Level = tRD timing of chipset not the CPU Ratio Setting.
You can see that with memset program.

Talonman
02-05-2008, 10:35 AM
I don't currently know where to adjust that number. :)

And what would be a good value to put in while testing when I find it?

Going to try upping the NB voltage a tad first, and re try a FSB of 228 again to see if Prime likes it any better...

Then might live in the edge and UP the CPU voltage a tad more, and try 428 again.

Be back soon with my report. ;)

Dostoyevsky77
02-05-2008, 10:53 AM
Hi, Talonman. Take a look at THIS (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=8) article to see what tRD is all about.

icecpu
02-05-2008, 11:01 AM
@ JaeKae, what video card you use
I have exactly set up as yours , here is my 24/7 usage bios setting for 4.1GHz prime stable 9+ Hrs

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 455
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1093
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax level: 1

CPU Voltage : 1.393
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.54
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Talonman
02-05-2008, 11:18 AM
Hi, Talonman. Take a look at THIS (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=8) article to see what tRD is all about.

Thanks for the link... Will do!

Update: I upped the NB voltage from 1.51 to 1.61, and re-ran Prime using a 428 FSB Frequency.
Result: Prime received an error in the first 3 minutes.
I returned my NB back to 1.51v.

I then moved the CPU's core from 1.50625v to 1.51875v, and re-ren Prime using a 428 FSB Frequency.
Result: Prime ran error free for 10 minutes... :)

Recap:
So far With the Maximus and my Q6600 GO:
My CPU Voltage setting of 1.46250v (BIOS), will allow error free Priming with a FSB Frequency 414 giving me 3.7GHz with my 400 NB Strap.
My CPU Voltage setting of 1.506v (BIOS), will allow error free Priming with a FSB Frequency 424 giving me 3.81GHz with my 400 NB Strap.
My CPU Voltage setting of 1.51875v (BIOS), will allow error free Priming with a FSB Frequency 428 giving me 3.85GHz with my 400 NB Strap. (And still testing!)
My CPU Voltage setting of 1.51875v (BIOS) starting taking errors 4 minutes into prime with a FSB Frequency 432 giving me 3.8888GHz with my 400 NB Strap.

I took my CPU Core all the way up to 1.53125 in the BIOS, but couldn't get 433 FSB to run Prime error free. (3.897GHz)
It that point I chickened out and went back to my 3.8GHz settings listed above.

Until I get more conformation, that some of the 4.0GHz boy's are running their q6600 Cores above 1.53125v's in the BIOS, I better stop.
I don't want to fry my chip just yet! ;)

Looks like my chasing 4.0GHz, is going to still be about the Core voltage setting, and how far I am willing to bump it up... :)

tommithy
02-05-2008, 11:46 AM
I don't currently know where to adjust that number. :)

And what would be a good value to put in while testing when I find it?

Going to try upping the NB voltage a tad first, and re try a FSB of 228 again to see if Prime likes it any better...

Then might live in the edge and UP the CPU voltage a tad more, and try 428 again.

Be back soon with my report. ;)

To change the TRD on this board set your transaction booster to either disabled or enabled and then change the relax settings. When pushing high FSB you will want to set it to Disabled with a Relax of 0. As you go faster you may have to change Relax to 1 or 2.

Talonman
02-05-2008, 12:16 PM
Just booted with my 3.81GHz settings, but set the Transaction booster Disabled, and relax set to 0.

I am going to see if I can get a highr FSB frequency withought upping the CPU Core voltage any.

Thanks for using the key words 'Transaction booster'!!

I can find that! ;)

Update: It worked... It worked!!
Setting the transaction booster to Disabled, and relax to 0 successfully let me Prime at a FSB Frequency of 426 for some 3.83GHz error free operation...
That is withought adding to my CPU's core voltage...

Going back for more! :)

Grnfinger
02-05-2008, 01:08 PM
Hi im new with overclocking ( first day today :p ) so i would like to get a little help to get my system stable at 4 ghz. I have a e8400 , maximus formula and crucial ballistix 8500.

current settings are
_________________________________
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 435
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-870
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.31
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
________________________________________

I ran it 30 min in orthos without any problems and tried 3d mark and got 14325 score, but tested cod4 later and had a bit of fps drops.

Any settings i can change to get it more stable? will try get fsb to 445 later.

you have PC8500 ram, why are you running it so slow?

Jaekae
02-05-2008, 01:08 PM
@ icecpu

i have the same video card as you also ,

will try your settings out now and see if it works better :)

@ grnfinger

because i have never clocked before, just started learning today :) and when i try putting ram on 1066 the computer crashes 2 min after windows has started, even when i have no overclock on..

Prodigys
02-05-2008, 01:37 PM
very nice rare cpu u got there:), mine got exact same PFO, but it has a VID of 1.2125 :up:

Your signature says "Intel Q6600 g0 VID 1.2875" ?

My proof :

http://i27.tinypic.com/dvhwl5.png

4Ghz on 1.40000Vcore is SuperPi stable, 1.42Vcore is everything stable :) .

Grnfinger
02-05-2008, 03:38 PM
@ icecpu

i have the same video card as you also ,

will try your settings out now and see if it works better :)

@ grnfinger

because i have never clocked before, just started learning today :) and when i try putting ram on 1066 the computer crashes 2 min after windows has started, even when i have no overclock on..

How much ram are you running and how many sticks?

Jaekae
02-05-2008, 03:43 PM
How much ram are you running and how many sticks?

two sticks 2 gb , in the two white slots ?

brisk
02-05-2008, 03:43 PM
quick question...
is it just my board or is it the maximus boards that require more voltage than other boards to get to the speed you want on the q6600 G0

people are saying they can reach 3.0-3.2 on stock volts but in order for me to reach 3.0 i need 1.35volts...does that sound normal?

and also, what is the vDroop mod? i couldn't find anything on that other than the picture on page 1...

CERO
02-05-2008, 03:46 PM
Your signature says "Intel Q6600 g0 VID 1.2875" ?

My proof :

http://i27.tinypic.com/dvhwl5.png

4Ghz on 1.40000Vcore is SuperPi stable, 1.42Vcore is everything stable :) .

My signature is outdated...

kamoo
02-05-2008, 04:04 PM
Hello All,

I have created a new post with an issue I'm having.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2751236

Your help is much appreciated.

KaM

Wallboy
02-05-2008, 04:28 PM
Q6600 G0 VID: 1.2750 unlapped w/ MX-2
Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme unlapped
Maximus Formula NON-SE
HIS HD3870 in Xfire
Corsair HX620

Alright I started overclocking today and tried to use similar settings that I've seen thus far. I started with a 3.2GHz overclock. Didn't mess with the memory settings yet at all until I figure out my CPU clock. Here are the settings I used if I recall:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 355
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- AUTO
DRAM Command Rate : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO
CAS# Latency : AUTO
RAS# to CAS# Delay : AUTO
RAS# Precharge : AUTO
RAS# ActivateTime : AUTO
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.35 / CPU-Z 1.328
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.39 / EVEREST 1.41
DRAM Voltage : 2.00 / EVEREST 2.08
FSB Termination Voltage : Forget exactly what I used. EVEREST 1.34
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

Now I'm not sure if there is an exact way to test stability, so the first thing I ran was OCCT 30 Min and it passed just fine. Attached to this post is a picture of the full load temps which I think are a little high, especially on the first 2 cores, but thats probably due to the concavity of the TRUE 120? NB temp seems high as well. Should I start dropping voltages on some things or maintain those voltages and start upping the CPU clock. Idle temps for the CPU are 42, 39, 32, 35 respectively, and 56 for the NB.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6351/occtit8.th.jpg (http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=occtit8.jpg)

rbsmontemor
02-05-2008, 04:30 PM
What's your performance level?

Thanks

Rbs.
:wave:

fordf250
02-05-2008, 04:31 PM
quick question...
is it just my board or is it the maximus boards that require more voltage than other boards to get to the speed you want on the q6600 G0

people are saying they can reach 3.0-3.2 on stock volts but in order for me to reach 3.0 i need 1.35volts...does that sound normal?

and also, what is the vDroop mod? i couldn't find anything on that other than the picture on page 1...

1.325V was the stock voltage at 2.4G for a 738B vid 1.325V q6600 I had, needed 1.55V to get 3.6G and 1.725V for 3.8G with good water cooling never above 60C full load.

I now have a 1.225Vid 727B that is testing at 3.6G and 1.3V 450fsb.

kup
02-05-2008, 04:41 PM
FOR THOSE GETTING RANDOM REBOOTS REGARDLESS OF STABILTY TESTS PROVING SYSTEM TO BE STABLE!!!!

I think I've solved my overclocking problem. It was having 4GB installed. Took 2GB out (2 sticks) and now stable with less vCore and faster clocks :D

Back to the kinda volts/clocks I got on my Striker but could never get on this Maximus!!!

I guess the Maximus just didn't like the ram as much...?

Lets put it this way, with 4 sticks in I needed 1.525v to Fold 24/7 stable with Dual SMP Clients, but with 2 sticks in I need 1.472v!!!!! :D This was literally the only change.

Tony
02-05-2008, 04:44 PM
Put the other 2GB back in, clock moderately from bios and then use memset to force TRFC to 54, then push the fsb back up with the vcore you are using for 2GB

Wallboy
02-05-2008, 04:45 PM
What's your performance level?

Thanks

Rbs.
:wave:

What you mean by performance level?

kup
02-05-2008, 04:54 PM
Put the other 2GB back in, clock moderately from bios and then use memset to force TRFC to 54, then push the fsb back up with the vcore you are using for 2GB

Can it force TRFC to 54 permanently, without needing to set it each and every time I boot? What is TRFC in relation to using 2GB or 4GB? Will it adversely affect performance? Or can I offset it with other timings? Using SPDTool, can I flash a modified speed to my all 4 sticks and that'll solve the problem too?

avrionis
02-05-2008, 04:59 PM
What is DRAM Static Read Control?

What should it be set on this board for a good OC? e8400 > 4380 mhx on water

brisk
02-05-2008, 05:09 PM
1.325V was the stock voltage at 2.4G for a 738B vid 1.325V q6600 I had, needed 1.55V to get 3.6G and 1.725V for 3.8G with good water cooling never above 60C full load.

I now have a 1.225Vid 727B that is testing at 3.6G and 1.3V 450fsb.

I also have the 1.225VID for my G0 Q6600...but why is mine at 1.352 volts at only 3.0ghz? and temps are high at 45/45/40/40 idle...

Please help me...
people with a ip35-pro are getting like 3.6ghz at 1.35volts...

rbsmontemor
02-05-2008, 05:10 PM
What you mean by performance level?

You can check it with everest and memset. Affects substantially memory performance.

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4464/everest4eu2.jpg

Rbs.
:wave:

Tony
02-05-2008, 05:24 PM
new bios files coming soon which will open up TRFC, hold tight while we test.

For now you can mod the spd to 54 on yer dimms and leave it set by auto in bios.

Tony
02-05-2008, 05:26 PM
Performance Level is TRD, "read delay" nothing more, nothing less and needs to be referred to as such so we all know what is being talked about IMO

kup
02-05-2008, 05:29 PM
new bios files coming soon which will open up TRFC, hold tight while we test.

For now you can mod the spd to 54 on yer dimms and leave it set by auto in bios.

New bios? For the Maximus? :eek: So does the 54 setting kill performance at all? In SPDTool there is a small range of 'ns' settings that equals to TRFC of 54, can I pick any of these? I was going to pick the one just before it changes to TRFC 55 instead? Or should I go for the one closer to 53 or somewhere between the two? Sorry for the n00b questions, Tony. :(

Tony
02-05-2008, 05:35 PM
set 54...its the magic number ;)

remember to correct checksum before you flash ;)

it lowers performance at 800 but allows the dimms to scale up.

rbsmontemor
02-05-2008, 05:35 PM
Performance Level is TRD, "read delay" nothing more, nothing less and needs to be referred to as such so we all know what is being talked about IMO

:)

Tony, can you help me?

I've just posted on giga's thread.
Can Maximus + Kents run TRD < 8 at high FSBs? I'm new to X38 boards and have now a GA-X38-DQ6..and TRD = 7 is a no go.
EDIT: I'm using 475x8 on 4:5 ratio.

This is a characteristic of this chipset? Coz' with P35 I can use TRD = 6 with no problem, and the performance is clearly better.

I'm askin that coz' if Maximus can run with TRD < 8 I'll buy it tomorrow :D

Thanks

Rbs.
:wave:

Zucker2k
02-05-2008, 05:53 PM
Hey Tony, nice to see you here on this thread, we could always use someone with your knowledge and expertise. :toast:

Erm *cough* is the new bios *cough* as exhaustive as rampage formula's? *cough*

Zucker2k
02-05-2008, 06:13 PM
Okay folks, here are my bullet-proof 24/7 bios settings:

Not all ram will do cas4 past 1000, therefore relax timings accordingly.

I'm actually running 4-4-4-12-3-30-6-3-8-3-5-4-6-4-6. :up:

Edit: Some may need to raise their vcore to achieve this oc (4.3Ghz); you don't have to run at this speed, however, these settings could serve as a guide so you don't push your board unnecessarily.

Zucker2k
02-05-2008, 06:43 PM
Some quick spi runs on my 24/7 OS (Windows XP SP2). Ram timings same as above.

S1mon-
02-05-2008, 07:00 PM
:)

Tony, can you help me?

I've just posted on giga's thread.
Can Maximus + Kents run TRD < 8 at high FSBs? I'm new to X38 boards and have now a GA-X38-DQ6..and TRD = 7 is a no go.
EDIT: I'm using 475x8 on 4:5 ratio.

This is a characteristic of this chipset? Coz' with P35 I can use TRD = 6 with no problem, and the performance is clearly better.

I'm askin that coz' if Maximus can run with TRD < 8 I'll buy it tomorrow :D

Thanks

Rbs.
:wave:


http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8389/trduo2.jpg

;)

rbsmontemor
02-05-2008, 07:04 PM
Could you try 470Mhz FSB or more??

Thanks! :D

Rbs.
:wave:

S1mon-
02-05-2008, 07:12 PM
Could you try 470Mhz FSB or more??

Thanks! :D

Rbs.
:wave:

Aight give me a few minutes :D

rbsmontemor
02-05-2008, 07:34 PM
Ok I'm waiting :)

Rbs.
:wave:

S1mon-
02-05-2008, 07:51 PM
475 FSB is a no go at about any voltages...

470 FSB worked on my first attempt :D

You should be able to do 470 FSB with some voltage tweaking...

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8328/470km9.jpg

S1mon-
02-05-2008, 07:54 PM
Not too bad for a first attempt:

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/3033/memorytm2.jpg

S1mon-
02-05-2008, 07:57 PM
Not stable at all though... P95 fails within seconds...

rbsmontemor
02-05-2008, 08:10 PM
475 no boot at all? And with TRD = 8?

Sorry for ask so may things, but you're helping me a lot :) Thanks :)

Rbs.
:wave:

S1mon-
02-05-2008, 08:12 PM
475 FSB boot no problem but after 5-10 sec in the OS it freezes everytime :(

I'll have to check with TRD=8 though

Wallboy
02-05-2008, 08:16 PM
You can check it with everest and memset. Affects substantially memory performance.

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4464/everest4eu2.jpg

Rbs.
:wave:

Performance Level: 7 in everest

What sort of relevance does this have? Haven't read or heard anything about it. My RAM timings are currently loosened as I wanna get my CPU to it's limit before tightening timings and playing with the dividers. Also can anyone take a look at my post last page and answer some of my questions. Thanks!

rbsmontemor
02-05-2008, 08:25 PM
Click HERE (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=7)

And some real numbers:

TRD = Performance Level = 8

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3822/trd8ec3.jpg

TRD = Performance Level = 10

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/8340/trd10gw3.jpg

TRD = Performance Level = 12

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6989/trd12nz6.jpg

I think it's just a little relevant..


475 FSB boot no problem but after 5-10 sec in the OS it freezes everytime :(

I'll have to check with TRD=8 though

It was with TRD = 7 :eek: GA-X38-DQ6 doesn't even boot at this setting :(

Waiting for your results :up:

Rbs.
:wave:

S1mon-
02-05-2008, 08:27 PM
475 FSB works fine at PL=8

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8297/pl8ar7.jpg

rbsmontemor
02-05-2008, 08:30 PM
475 FSB works fine at PL=8

I'll put my rams on same config just to see...be back soon.

rbsmontemor
02-05-2008, 08:43 PM
No boot. This sticks runs fine @ 1300+ on P5K Deluxe...and it works on DQ6 too, but only on 4:5.

I"ll order this motherboard tomorrow...thanks S1mon! I'll be here aways now :D

Rbs.
:wave:

S1mon-
02-05-2008, 08:45 PM
Hehe good luck with your new board... The only downside with this mobo is that it likes voltages a lot for the NB...

I tried 1,68V on the NB for 475 FSB on my quad and it crashed after 10 minutes :(, so far from being stable...

brisk
02-05-2008, 09:07 PM
I also have the 1.225VID for my G0 Q6600...but why is mine at 1.352 volts at only 3.0ghz? and temps are high at 45/45/40/40 idle...

Please help me...
people with a ip35-pro are getting like 3.6ghz at 1.35volts...

anybody?
do you think i have a bad cpu?
even with a low VID i need 1.352 volts to hit 3.0ghz...
does that sound normal?

S1mon-
02-05-2008, 09:11 PM
anybody?
do you think i have a bad cpu?
even with a low VID i need 1.352 volts to hit 3.0ghz...
does that sound normal?

Shoot for 3,6GHz with 1,35V to see if it boots ;)

brisk
02-05-2008, 09:24 PM
Shoot for 3,6GHz with 1,35V to see if it boots ;)

nope...tried it
doesn't even show the post screen...
and i can boot and load windows at 1.4v at 3.6ghz but my temps are lik 49/49/44/44 idle....with a TRUE120....

how did you get yours at 3.6 with 1.288V???

S1mon-
02-05-2008, 09:56 PM
nope...tried it
doesn't even show the post screen...
and i can boot and load windows at 1.4v at 3.6ghz but my temps are lik 49/49/44/44 idle....with a TRUE120....

how did you get yours at 3.6 with 1.288V???

Check your PM ;)

ZenEffect
02-05-2008, 10:22 PM
performance level 7. i gotta tweak the mem as its running on auto. trans booster enabled level 0
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/pl7.jpg

rbsmontemor
02-05-2008, 10:48 PM
At this FSB you should be able to run TRD = Performance Level = 6.

Rbs.
:wave:

Wallboy
02-05-2008, 10:52 PM
Here's where I'm at, I tried 400x9 at 1.35vcore and it didn't even get into windows before restarting. So I upped it to 1.3750, got into windows and when I started small FFTs on prime95 computer instantly froze. So I rebooted and went up to 1.40, got into windows, started prime95, didn't freeze but a thread failed almost instantly. Tried 450x8, got into windows prime95 and thread failed almost instantly. I have ran OCCT and it passed at 378x9(3.4GHz) @ 1.35Vcore(1.328 actual). I prime95 for 10 minutes just to see what full load temps would get to since OCCT doesn't get my CPU as hot as prime95 does. After 10 mins time my temps were 69c, 69c, 60c, 60c respectively. Idles in mid 30's. Isn't that too hot for that sort of vcore? My goal was to get this chip to 3.6GHz, but at these sort of temps it doesn't look good. Anyone have any advice? Should I start dropping the vcore to see when it becomes unstable at 3.4GHz?

Have yet to mess with my memory yet.

Q6600 G0
TRUE 120 /w MX2
Maximus Formula NON-SE
PC6400 4x1GB Ballistix Tracer
HIS HD3870 ICEQ3 Xfire

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 378
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- AUTO
DRAM Command Rate : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO
CAS# Latency : AUTO
RAS# to CAS# Delay : AUTO
RAS# Precharge : AUTO
RAS# ActivateTime : AUTO
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.35 / CPU-Z 1.328
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.39 / EVEREST 1.41
DRAM Voltage : 2.00 / EVEREST 2.08
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.30 / EVEREST 1.34
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

fordf250
02-05-2008, 11:11 PM
Hehe good luck with your new board... The only downside with this mobo is that it likes voltages a lot for the NB...

I tried 1,68V on the NB for 475 FSB on my quad and it crashed after 10 minutes :(, so far from being stable...

Not all do, I get 475fsb stable at 1.6Vnb non-se cooled with big 120mm fan 33-36C full load q6600 and 545fsb with higher 1.71Vnb still the same temp E6600 both with all settings auto but Vcore and Vram.

ZenEffect
02-05-2008, 11:23 PM
At this FSB you should be able to run TRD = Performance Level = 6.

Rbs.
:wave:

setting to 6 locks the computer

theonlybabyface
02-05-2008, 11:31 PM
Just up your NB voltage...

On another topic, many people have been complaining of instabilities once the NB gets hot. Mine runs 49C idle and 55C after a good gaming session but my board shows absolutely no signs of instability whatsoever. In fact, rock stable. Anyone else have the same luck?

cadaveca
02-05-2008, 11:36 PM
MIne is fine @ 50c-60c until I go over 450 FSB. At that point, it like to stay below 50c or so. At 266mhz, 333, or 400, all using thier respective strap, no issues. Over 440 on 333mhz strap has temp issues for me too.

Hockster
02-05-2008, 11:38 PM
anybody?
do you think i have a bad cpu?
even with a low VID i need 1.352 volts to hit 3.0ghz...
does that sound normal?

I've got a B3 quad and it needs 1.35 volts to run at 3.0GHz. 350 bus is the best I've ever got stable on it.

CERO
02-06-2008, 12:33 AM
Could you try 470Mhz FSB or more??

Thanks! :D

Rbs.
:wave:

Rbs it works man, even higher depends if your Quad core could handle the high fsb, for this board high fsb works np, as long I use 333 strap and disable transaction booster , so if I am correct that is performance lvl 7. Since TB is disable u can use even lower NBv to achieve it

arfett
02-06-2008, 02:54 AM
Just a note for everyone and new users of this board. MAKE SURE YOU DISABLE VANDERPOOL TECHNOLOGY IN THE CPU SETTINGS IN BIOS. I enabled it to install Vista SP1 RTM in vmware and afterwards found myself unable to pass even a single minute of Prime without all 4 cores failing. Disabled VT and back to stable operations.

Prodigys
02-06-2008, 03:06 AM
Can the people with 465+ FSB on Q6600 give me this info :

FSB x MP

PLL : .... V
NB : .... V
FSB : .... V
SB : .... V
CPU GTL : ....
NB GTL : ....
SB 1.5V : .... V

NB Strap : .... (200/266/333/400)
AI Clock Twister : ....
Transaction Booster : ...

It would help me very much !

Dostoyevsky77
02-06-2008, 04:44 AM
Wow. A lot has happened in the last 24 hours!

Tony & Kup, thanks for your help!

I'm also running 4x1GB (sigged) and find I need a lot more vCore on the E8400. Strangely, I needed LESS on the QX6700 compared to 680i. I'm going to try the tRFC flash as well.

Zucker, thanks for sharing your settings! I'm getting in another E8400 today that I might take for a spin at 500FSB, and your help in posting your experience is perfectly timed.

Talonman
02-06-2008, 06:00 AM
Just to complete my report...

Recap:
So far With the Maximus and my Q6600 GO:
My CPU Voltage setting of 1.46250v (BIOS), will allow error free Priming with a FSB Frequency 414 giving me 3.7GHz with my 400 NB Strap.
My CPU Voltage setting of 1.506v (BIOS), will allow error free Priming with a FSB Frequency 424 giving me 3.81GHz with my 400 NB Strap.
My CPU Voltage setting of 1.51875v (BIOS), will allow error free Priming with a FSB Frequency 428 giving me 3.85GHz with my 400 NB Strap. (And still testing!)
My CPU Voltage setting of 1.51875v (BIOS) starting taking errors 4 minutes into prime with a FSB Frequency 432 giving me 3.8888GHz with my 400 NB Strap.

By setting the Transaction Booster to Disabled, and A relax level of 0, I was able to successfully Prime with a tad lower CPU core voltages.

I did successfully prime 3.9GHz with a FSB Frequency 435 for 45 minutes, but stopped the test.
For my system it requires me to set in the BIOS a CPU core voltage of 1.55000v's, and Everest reads 1.53v.
You also must bump your CPU PLL to 1.60v's.
1.55 Core and only 1.56 PLL would not Prime 3.9GHz error free.

I still have no idea of how high you can go on core voltage, so I am opting to go back to my 3.8GHz. I don't want to fry my chip just yet! ;)

My current settings are listed on page 48 of this thread. I did make one change, setting the Vanderpool Technology to Disabled.
I did update page 48 to reflect that change too.