The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[CERO]

can u booth with 400x9 on 266 strap? oO

[JohnMike]

can u booth with 400x9 on 266 strap? oO

Yes of course. No problem at all, with the settings that i wrote on my last post.

:up:

[ReZ_]

It is NOT about the BRAND, but the compound. And it is more akin to changing your car oil from using mineral oil to synthetic oil, the engine runs cooler therefore you CAN go faster.



he's (iTravis) is hitting +90c at 3.2/3.4ghz... if you think changing thermal paste, any paste you wish, is going to drop his temps 25%... well... you MUST believe stickers will make your car go faster too.

btw, synthetic oil won't make your car run faster, use what's written on your oil cap and you should be pretty close to the max your car can do.
I've tried.
On many cars, different brands too!
Who manufactures cars that require synthetic oil? Guess why! My dealer even discouraged using synthetic in mine! Take another shot!
Off topic! :yepp:

[CERO]

Yes of course. No problem at all, with the settings that i wrote on my last post.

:up:

wow maybe i should try, I tried with 425x9 but coudnt boot with 266 strap, what bios u are using? cheers :up:

[FZ1]

Okay; I'll try disabled/1, but doesn't that mean it's RELAXED by 1? I can POST disabled/0, so isn't that better?

That's promising about your Yorkie. I'm pre-ordered on a Q9450 that I hope to take to 8x470. I was reading a thread where a Q9450 topped-out at 450FSB on X38... hopefully that was just an old BIOS.

Speaking of BIOS, any reason you're still using 0903?Yes, disabled does mean relaxed and 0 would be better than 1. I'm running 0903 because it works for me. I haven't tried 0907 but my motto is "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

[eSp!s0]

The best settings running 1200/400 FSB Mhz on this board are:

FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Disabled
-Boost Level 0

If you use Strap 333 then you can change Ai Clock Twister: Strong

The best FSB spots on this board, 400 FSB/Strap 266 and 450 FSB/Strap 333

Strong doesn`t work for me with all settings. Perhaps, this are the best settings for you, but that differs from system to system. Of course, it would be very helpful, if it was that easy.
But your post can help people coming closer to their stable settings :up:

[philter]

Does any one know if the ADH header is usable?
If so I asume it 'talks' to the SB, not the Supreme FX?
And does anyone know the pinout functions for this header, I've tried googling it but no joy. I want to see if I can get Digital IN on this board!

[Grnfinger]

how is this possible that you reached 8x450 with such a low NB V, with my quad I need at least 1.61V :(

450x8 here and my NB runs a cool 1.47V, I see alot of ppl over volting there NB

[JoeBar]

450x8 here and my NB runs a cool 1.47V, I see alot of ppl over volting there NB
Are u talking about prime stable system??

[ZenEffect]

he's (iTravis) is hitting +90c at 3.2/3.4ghz... if you think changing thermal paste, any paste you wish, is going to drop his temps 25%... well... you MUST believe stickers will make your car go faster too.



could be the difference between as5 and elmers non toxic minty tasting paste

[Grnfinger]

Are u talking about prime stable system??

Of course

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/test2-1.jpg

[JoeBar]

Of course

Then u must have got a very nice X38 chip... :)


I'm running @ 465x8 (mem @ 1240mhz) and anything lower than 1.72v (real) is a no go for me.
NB is cooled by an MCW30 and temps don't get higher that 39'C under load though.

[iTravis]

Guys, I'm now at 3.4Ghz prime stable for over 10 hours and OCCT stable as well. Core temps are still high but I can see there's a big difference compare to what I had couple days ago (b4 I apply AS 5 and reseat heatsink). They're now 85-85-82-82 at full load and 50-50-48-48 at idle with case temp is 39C and room temp is 51F.
The NB voltage is high though, I got like 58 at full load so I don't know if I should reapply thermal paste for the NB and SB as well.
Anyway, I'm gonna try 3.5 2nite and possibly 3.6, if it's stable then I'm happy with it. :)

[JohnMike]

wow maybe i should try, I tried with 425x9 but coudnt boot with 266 strap, what bios u are using? cheers :up:

Bios 0903, but it works with other's 0802 and 0907 because i tryed.


Strong doesn`t work for me with all settings. Perhaps, this are the best settings for you, but that differs from system to system. Of course, it would be very helpful, if it was that easy.
But your post can help people coming closer to their stable settings :up:

Did you follow my settings?!... It seems that you have the same Ram as I do, so that shouldn't be a problem. Only diference is the CPU but i don't think that matters for this settings.

Strap 266 (faster timings) generaly end's at or above 400 FSB, from here on you have to use 333 Strap (relax timings) until some where around 450~475 FSB depending on your system.

[Grnfinger]

Bios 0903, but it works with other's 0802 and 0907 because i tryed.



Did you follow my settings?!... It seems that you have the same Ram as I do, so that shouldn't be a problem. Only diference is the CPU but i don't think that matters for this settings.

Strap 266 (faster timings) generaly end's at or above 400 FSB, from here on you have to use 333 Strap (relax timings) until some where around 450~475 FSB depending on your system.

Just tried 400x9 using the 266 strap for 1203 ram
Seems to be working, got prime to run 20 mins b4 BSOD so alittle tweaking and I think I can get the 266 strap stable.
However ram is a tad slower compared to 400 strap @ 450x8

[JohnMike]

Just tried 400x9 using the 266 strap for 1203 ram
Seems to be working, got prime to run 20 mins b4 BSOD so alittle tweaking and I think I can get the 266 strap stable.
However ram is a tad slower compared to 400 strap @ 450x8

Should be because 450 FSB is higher it overtakes the handcup of 333 Strap relaxed timings.
I use Everest (Read Memory/Latency benchs) to test the bandwith performance and helps me choose the best settings regarding memory bandwith.

About the Prime BSOD, you may need a little more voltage on the CPU because at 400 FSB/266 Strap you are at the max potencial of the Strap. Give it a try, it was necessary for me.

But before my QX9650, i had a Q6600 G0 and choosed the same «450 FSB/333 Strap/1200 Ram» as your sig. It's a perfect match with this board having a G0.

[ZenEffect]

one thing i did to this board *i have non se* that helped was adding (zip tying) a 55mm fan to the nb... temps went from 65 *before* to 55 *after* according to temp readings from bios. sure its ugly, but it worked! stupid for me to say something this obvious but nobody else is saying anything like this except 1 person *smart guy* who used a antec spot fan

[Robin77]

Guys, I'm now at 3.4Ghz prime stable for over 10 hours and OCCT stable as well. Core temps are still high but I can see there's a big difference compare to what I had couple days ago (b4 I apply AS 5 and reseat heatsink). They're now 85-85-82-82 at full load and 50-50-48-48 at idle with case temp is 39C and room temp is 51F.
The NB voltage is high though, I got like 58 at full load so I don't know if I should reapply thermal paste for the NB and SB as well.
Anyway, I'm gonna try 3.5 2nite and possibly 3.6, if it's stable then I'm happy with it. :)

Your NB temp is not high, it's low. Mine is around 75 C loaded and 68 unloaded and is rockstable running prime 95 and 3dmark in loop for 48 hours simultanious. This is a good value compared to Intels official specs for the NB max load temps that I posted a vew pages back (were around 95 C). Just follow the link to Intel X38 thermal guide and don't listen to not qualified statements you read here which tell you over 60 C NB temp will be unstable blabla....
Always go and find out the facts from direct source and go with it than listen to speculations.

[Grnfinger]

Your NB temp is not high, it's low. Mine is around 75 C loaded and 68 unloaded and is rockstable running prime 95 and 3dmark in loop for 48 hours simultanious. This is a good value compared to Intels official specs for the NB max load temps that I posted a vew pages back (were around 95 C). Just follow the link to Intel X38 thermal guide and don't listen to not qualified statements you read here which tell you over 60 C NB temp will be unstable blabla....
Always go and find out the facts from direct source and go with it than listen to speculations.

58c on the NB is LOW? really
I get 45c on full load and 38 idle.
the 60c stability issue was stated as YOU MAY experience stability issues above 60c, it was also mentioned that this statement was taken from Anadantech's review of the board and it was not confirmed

[iTravis]

This is my setting for 3.4Ghz prime and OCCT stable (425x8):

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-850
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.39
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.98
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6664/q660034ghzabq5.jpg
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1328/q660034ghzocctmy2.jpg

I try to move up to 3.6Ghz but fail OCCT after just 1 min, don't know what went wrong since I tried every settings from the members of this forum but still unstable. :( Any ideas what should I do for 3.6?

[Dostoyevsky77]

What's the word with LOADLINE CALIBRATION? It seems to completely eliminate vDroop on my system... is it bad to leave it ENABLED? I don't see many user BIOS settings in this thread where people have it on.

[eSp!s0]

Then look again, or search the thread, LC was discussed weeks ago. I enable it when ocing cpu and disable it, when not ocing cpu.
Most other guys do, too. But here was a user with problem to get system stable with LC enabled and very low OC. After switching to disable, system became stable.

[bummerboy]

hey guess what, i plug back in the stock heatsink, re-spread thermal paste, change the fan with the one from pentiumD (which spins at 2600-2800 average), and my temp dropped significantly, about 30-32C idling, now gonna test max load and see where it goes up to :)

update: orthos smallfft load --> 59C max woohooooo

[ChaosAD]

I am going desperate here.No matter the settings i use i can run the pc all day for gaming and internet browsing/downloading. I can run it at 8x425 and 8x440.
But whenever i run Blend test under Prime95 at both speeds i get an error after exactly 47-48 mins.No hung ups,freezes or bsod.Just an error on one of the cores.On the third one almost always.Anyone have any idea?
I havent tried to go any further because of this problem.If anyone had a same issue plz help me out.

[Darkstormz]

I am going desperate here.No matter the settings i use i can run the pc all day for gaming and internet browsing/downloading. I can run it at 8x425 and 8x440.
But whenever i run Blend test under Prime95 at both speeds i get an error after exactly 47-48 mins.No hung ups,freezes or bsod.Just an error on one of the cores.On the third one almost always.Anyone have any idea?
I havent tried to go any further because of this problem.If anyone had a same issue plz help me out.

I had exactly the same issue. P95 error @ 47-49min using Blend test.
I had to up my vcore a few notches. For Small FFT is was stable 450x8 @ 1.32v
But for blend I had to use 1.34v to be able to pass that 47min mark.
Today I tried to disable Loadline Calibration. And now its stable 450x8 Blend @ 1.32v :)

[iadstudio]

I'm convinced this board hates high vCore. Can anyone verify this? It seemed like my 680i could muscle in a stable 3.8ghz @1.68v but this board doesn't want to do much over 3.6ghz @ 1.64v.

Can anyone verify this syndrome? I know anand published diminishing success with higher voltage cpu's, but what about you guys?

[Dostoyevsky77]

iastudio, I have the opposite situation. Where I used to run core at 1.45 on 680i (P5N32-E), I am now running at 1.4v... actually, I'm running higher FSB as well. 1.68v sounds really, really high... that same 1.4v is running my B3 quad at sigged.

[ChaosAD]

I had exactly the same issue. P95 error @ 47-49min using Blend test.
I had to up my vcore a few notches. For Small FFT is was stable 450x8 @ 1.32v
But for blend I had to use 1.34v to be able to pass that 47min mark.
Today I tried to disable Loadline Calibration. And now its stable 450x8 Blend @ 1.32v :)

That is really nice to hear...i ll give it a try soon.Disabling Loadline Calibration doesnt have any other impact on the system except the stabilty issue?:rolleyes:

What kind of VID do u have.Mine is 1.325 and i need around 1.46v to run @ 3,6Ghz.I even need 1.4v to run @ 3,4Ghz.1.32v is pretty sweet for 3,6.ENVY U!:up:

[iadstudio]

yeah, it is high. I have a early week chip that has always needed a lot to OC. I'll try to undervolt it and see what happens, but I'm talking more about the general amount of voltage needed. Anand seemed to think the board was not the best OC'r for chips that needed over 1.55 to OC. Soemthing about the voltage not being so stable at those levels.

[JohnMike]

I am going desperate here.No matter the settings i use i can run the pc all day for gaming and internet browsing/downloading. I can run it at 8x425 and 8x440.
But whenever i run Blend test under Prime95 at both speeds i get an error after exactly 47-48 mins.No hung ups,freezes or bsod.Just an error on one of the cores.On the third one almost always.Anyone have any idea?
I havent tried to go any further because of this problem.If anyone had a same issue plz help me out.

Rise a little bit the CPU voltage.

[Grnfinger]

This is my setting for 3.4Ghz prime and OCCT stable (425x8):

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-850
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.39
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.98
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5


I try to move up to 3.6Ghz but fail OCCT after just 1 min, don't know what went wrong since I tried every settings from the members of this forum but still unstable. :( Any ideas what should I do for 3.6?

This is my 3.6GHz setup

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400MHZ
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1199 / or 900 for 1:1
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : ENABLED
-Boost Level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.45 ( for starts and adjust from there)
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO ( yes auto and it works)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47
DRAM Voltage : 2.16 ( less volts if your going to run 1:1)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

This is my 24/7 setting and its rock solid stable

[Grnfinger]

I'm convinced this board hates high vCore. Can anyone verify this? It seemed like my 680i could muscle in a stable 3.8ghz @1.68v but this board doesn't want to do much over 3.6ghz @ 1.64v.

Can anyone verify this syndrome? I know anand published diminishing success with higher voltage cpu's, but what about you guys?

Well I hate to admit my Q6600 also has a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty VID of 1.325 for a stable 3.4GHz I need 1.45v and for 3.6GHz I need 1.565:shocked: I have run 3.8 and 4.0 but havent never got it stable, I'm alittle hesitant to run anything past 1.60v.
My lapping kit arrived today so maybe after I lap the cpu I will try for a higher stable clock

[CERO]

Well I hate to admit my Q6600 also has a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty VID of 1.325 for a stable 3.4GHz I need 1.45v and for 3.6GHz I need 1.565:shocked: I have run 3.8 and 4.0 but havent never got it stable, I'm alittle hesitant to run anything past 1.60v.
My lapping kit arrived today so maybe after I lap the cpu I will try for a higher stable clock

Make some pics Grnfinger! good luck, surely it would help at least 10c drop!

[ZenEffect]

xtreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : AUTO
FSB Frequency : 422
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1125
DRAM Command Rate : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : AUTO
CPU Voltage : 1.656
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.6
North Bridge Voltage : 1.69
DRAM Voltage : 2.26
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.56
South Bridge Voltage : 1.15
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .63
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF *doh forgot to write it down but its the one in the middle*
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : DISABLED

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : ENABLED
CPU TM Function : ENABLED
Vanderpool Technology : ENABLED *wtf is this anyways*
Execute Disable Bit : ENABLED
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

settings for 3.8Ghz on my q6600 (1.325 VID) *really its 3.798 but who is counting... :p:*

it is prime stable 8 hrs + and load temps are low 70's idle mid to high 30's dependant on ambient air temp. i am on water cooling, specs are in sig... and if you are that picky, im using zalman super thermal grease *cleans off nice and has a brush applicator :up: * sorry no screen shots (not running prime for that long again because i said to myself id quit oc'ing this mofo because it is addicting) but what the hell is the point of lying (yeah im lying about a 1.325 vid cpu) when all we are doing is trying to help each other?

TO Grnfinger - Have you considered sending your cpu back to intel? im thinking about that now, but if u are lapping it, please let us know results thanks

does water cooling the northbridge help any with over all overclocks? ive got a little fan cooling it now. its chilling at around 55c load, from what it was before which if i remember right was around 70... it was even too hot to put your fingers on for too long... stock volts and all. i have not reseated anything on the motherboard because im lazy and id have to undo all this water cooling junk in my case to get to it... luckily i havent put my graphics cards on liquid yet so if any of u guys recommends me doing this as a matter of urgency it wouldnt be TOO big of a problem i suppose

[Creek Tha Gray]

new high is :shocked: should i go higher:shrug:

[ZenEffect]

actually here are some quick pics i snapped off for u guys.
cpu idling
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/idle.jpg
running superpi *very light load and temps are reflecting it, ran it for cpu-z screenshot @ 3.8 really*
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f210/icon22976/lightload.jpg

[ZenEffect]

new high is :shocked: should i go higher:shrug:
thats a silly question.. the answer is always YES :clap: nice cpu dude... im envious

*edited sig to be more precise for results comparison*

[Nuckin_Futs]

new high is :shocked: should i go higher:shrug:

I agree, answer is always "YES". However, I'd try for matched higher FSB as the 10x multi is holding you back. Lower to 7x or 8x for same high clock but more FSB. This mobo is great to 500+ FSB with ease. I had the have the Q6600 on another mobo and it is FSB limited to barely 504FSB so the Q6700 should get you a tad more.

Do let us know as it will be interesting to see if you get a nice stable 500x8 then improve o that.

[fordf250]

I'm convinced this board hates high vCore. Can anyone verify this? It seemed like my 680i could muscle in a stable 3.8ghz @1.68v but this board doesn't want to do much over 3.6ghz @ 1.64v.

Can anyone verify this syndrome? I know anand published diminishing success with higher voltage cpu's, but what about you guys?

I can run 3825mhz with q6600 needing 1.725Vcore. This mb is very stable over 1.6V. E6600 will run 4g at 500fsb with 1.65Vcore.

[Robin77]

Post follows due connection probs:

[Robin77]

58c on the NB is LOW? really
I get 45c on full load and 38 idle.
the 60c stability issue was stated as YOU MAY experience stability issues above 60c, it was also mentioned that this statement was taken from Anadantech's review of the board and it was not confirmed

I'd say yout temp is then ultralow (maybe others too have such ulow temps), but that doesn't change anything to the fact, that NB temps around 70 C are very good NB temps and nowhere near stability issues. If this was the case, Intel would have to review their official thermal spec docs for X38 and maybe would get some serious troubles regarding RMA's.

Never the less the spec is right, what is proven by my NB temps, which are rockstable and so have enough air to be not the liniting factor for further OCing.

[Monstru]

First of all....Good thread! I couldn't read it all, because it'r pretty long, but the first pages are very useful.

What dividers seem to work best for you on this board? I have noticed that 3:4 works very good (400 strap) and that 1:1 it's not what it used to be, but I am curious what works best for you. Thx :)

[Dostoyevsky77]

Hi, Monstru. I find 333 and 266 to give me the best bandwidth (I use Everest Ultimate 4.2 as my bench).

I have attached some 4GB benchmarks. Scroll down for the Maximus (most of them are from P5N32-E). I didn't put the NB strap, but you can figure it out from the ratio.

Best advice is to test it yourself, because your system might behave differently...

[dasc]

I started my computer yesterday and LCD monitor was showing "CPU INIT". I reset the bios, but nothing changed. I called the ASUS technical support and they issued me a RMA # for the motherboard. I wonder what happened since day before it was working fine.

[Creek Tha Gray]

I agree, answer is always "YES". However, I'd try for matched higher FSB as the 10x multi is holding you back. Lower to 7x or 8x for same high clock but more FSB. This mobo is great to 500+ FSB with ease. I had the have the Q6600 on another mobo and it is FSB limited to barely 504FSB so the Q6700 should get you a tad more.

Do let us know as it will be interesting to see if you get a nice stable 500x8 then improve o that.

i would but i don't think this ram can handle much more im looking at getting some 4gb kit of 1066

[Dostoyevsky77]

Since when did this board "start" supporting 1600FSB? I just looked at NewEgg and saw 1600FSB on the stats. Then, I went to the ASUS site. Nothing in the text, but there's a "1600FSB" logo right on the top!

Either I'm smokin' some serious crack, or there was no 1600 support when I bought the board a couple weeks ago. Neither the box nor BIOS release notes say anything about 1600FSB.

[ChaosMinionX]

Since when did this board "start" supporting 1600FSB? I just looked at NewEgg and saw 1600FSB on the stats. Then, I went to the ASUS site. Nothing in the text, but there's a "1600FSB" logo right on the top!

Either I'm smokin' some serious crack, or there was no 1600 support when I bought the board a couple weeks ago. Neither the box nor BIOS release notes say anything about 1600FSB.

Most any board is capable of 1600mhz support, its just a little more overclocking :)

[iadstudio]

I can run 3825mhz with q6600 needing 1.725Vcore. This mb is very stable over 1.6V. E6600 will run 4g at 500fsb with 1.65Vcore.


Then I can't figure it out? My machine crashes over 3.6 and I've ruled out the memory, just the CPU or mobo to blame. I assumed the chip couldn't handle high FSB but I can get 400 x9 no problem, but 370 x8 is not stable where it was on a 680i. I actually had 375 x10 stable on the 680i at 1.68v real.

I'm definately giving my cpu enough juice and the mobo voltages are even a little high for dual core. When I lower the mobo voltages, it makes things worse. I even loosened the board timings to ensure that wasn't the culprit.

[Dostoyevsky77]

Most any board is capable of 1600mhz support, its just a little more overclocking :)

Um... right, I can take a board limited to 1066FSB and clock it way past 1333, but I can't put a 1333 chip into a board with a 1066 ceiling.

Until today, I was under the impression that the new 1600FSB chips like the QX9770 that will/might be released later this year would not work on X38... the 1600FSB icon also seems to contradict what's written on the website and what's written on my box.

[Monstru]

Thank you Dostoyevsky :)

[JoeBar]

Yesterday i was playing with my mb and disabled SMART on my raptor.
After doing that system start hanging at random moments with hd activity to maximum. I enabled SMART again and probs didn't disappear. Even unplugging psu and loading setup defaults in bios didn't help.

Only when i cleared cmos, board got back to normal. This was the first time i had to clear cmos on Maximus. :p:


Just wanted to share it with u, if anyone ever faces the same prob...

[iTravis]

This is my 3.6GHz setup

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400MHZ
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1199 / or 900 for 1:1
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : ENABLED
-Boost Level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.45 ( for starts and adjust from there)
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO ( yes auto and it works)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47
DRAM Voltage : 2.16 ( less volts if your going to run 1:1)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

This is my 24/7 setting and its rock solid stable

I tried your setting but it's still crashed after 2 mins running OCCT. Also keep increasing CPU and CPU PLL voltages but it's still not stable (either crashed or automatically restarting the system). I think if I'm rock solid at 3.4Ghz @ 1.39 then there's no need to go over 1.5 for the vcore right? Or maybe because my RAM has issues? I'm running 4x1GB so that could be the problem? I tried the DRAM frequency at 900 and it didn't even boot so I can only use 1199. Btw, a x9 multi seem to work for me since I can last OCCT for 3 mins (dunno if that would make a difference :lol: ). Man, all I need is 3.6Ghz and I'll be happy. :(

[Grnfinger]

I tried your setting but it's still crashed after 2 mins running OCCT. Also keep increasing CPU and CPU PLL voltages but it's still not stable (either crashed or automatically restarting the system). I think if I'm rock solid at 3.4Ghz @ 1.39 then there's no need to go over 1.5 for the vcore right? Or maybe because my RAM has issues? I'm running 4x1GB so that could be the problem? I tried the DRAM frequency at 900 and it didn't even boot so I can only use 1199. Btw, a x9 multi seem to work for me since I can last OCCT for 3 mins (dunno if that would make a difference :lol: ). Man, all I need is 3.6Ghz and I'll be happy. :(

I have a couple of 3.6GHz 9 multi settings if you want to try them.
I only run 2GB tho so the ram settings might be a problem
but for 3.6 on the 8 multi you may need more volts if you have a high VID cpu
there should be no need for more than 1.60 CPU PLL.
Also if your not using it I would recommend prime95 run the small fft test for a few hours and see if the cpu is the problem or if its the ram causing occt to crap out. I personally like to use it till I get the cpu stable then I can start overclocking the ram. You may need to relax your ram alot with your 4x1GB's
It can be a real :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: running 4x1GB

[iTravis]

I have a couple of 3.6GHz 9 multi settings if you want to try them.
I only run 2GB tho so the ram settings might be a problem
but for 3.6 on the 8 multi you may need more volts if you have a high VID cpu
there should be no need for more than 1.60 CPU PLL.
Also if your not using it I would recommend prime95 run the small fft test for a few hours and see if the cpu is the problem or if its the ram causing occt to crap out. I personally like to use it till I get the cpu stable then I can start overclocking the ram. You may need to relax your ram alot with your 4x1GB's
It can be a real :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: running 4x1GB

Hm....could be the RAM problem then, I might as well get the 2x2GB to replace my current 4x1GB. What would you recommend for a good set of RAM?
Anyway, I'm gonna run prime95 tonight to check the stability of the CPU first.
Thanks in advance. :D
P/S: Just give me some settings for the x9 multi so I can test for 2nite. Appreciate it. :D

[Rocinante]

I installed XP SP3 and everything is great, but I can't get the audio drivers installed at all. I tried the setup exe and that fails, then i tried to manually update the driver by forcing it to install the INF and that didn't work either. Any suggestions?

I'm running SP3, and was able to use the KB835221.exe ... I would not allow me to use the KB888111.exe ... after installing 835221, the sound drivers installed without a hitch...

[ReZ_]

But whenever i run Blend test under Prime95 at both speeds i get an error after exactly 47-48 mins.No hung ups,freezes or bsod.Just an error on one of the cores.

i always crashed on the 896k test, i'm guessing you are experiencing the same. Try to up values until you can past the 896k test

[aoch88]

Just curious, it looks like people get higher FSB with a P35 than the X38. What's the actual advantage of X38 (in this board especially) compared to other P35's?

[nordien]

Just curious, it looks like people get higher FSB with a P35 than the X38. What's the actual advantage of X38 (in this board especially) compared to other P35's?

Dual PCIe 2.0 for Crossfire is most important feature.

[Spyrus]

Hi, I've read somewhere that there is a problem with sp3 and hd audio. You might be better without the service pack until MS sort out this issue upon final release.
I've just found this acticle http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2951&Itemid=38
Chris

Go over Gigabyte site and download this:
http://tw.giga-byte.com/Support/Motherboard/Driver_DownloadFile.aspx?FileType=Driver&FileID=836
http://tw.giga-byte.com/Support/Motherboard/Driver_Model.aspx?ProductID=2665
Execute us->bat file.


The best settings running 1200/400 FSB Mhz on this board are:

FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Disabled
-Boost Level 0

If you use Strap 333 then you can change Ai Clock Twister: Strong

The best FSB spots on this board, 400 FSB/Strap 266 and 450 FSB/Strap 333

No me too cannot set strong with strap 333 when i am at 450 FSB

Reading all posts the conclusion so far is:
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Disabled
-Relax Level 0

FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Enabled
-Boost Level 0


I too have 50+oC on nb with only 1.35V mch.

It seems that 0903 is the less buggy from the newest bioses
and i will try that (i am with stock 0505)
It is hardly for me to be on strap 266 with 450 fsb.

My settings 24/7 for E6750G0

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333MHZ
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 2
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 2

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax Level : 0

CPU Voltage : 1.32
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.35
DRAM Voltage : 1.92
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto ( might turn it to 0.63x)
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto (might turn it to 0.67x)
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
C1E Suppport : Disabled(might turn it to Enabled)
CPU TM Function : Disabled(might turn it to Enabled)
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

Also this review is most appropriate for Formula and not P5E3 about tweaking
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3149&p=10

[magica]

I would like to see some more 9 x 400 setups on the first page. Please if you have a stable setup for 9 x 400 I would like to see more. 425 maybe too.

[Raver]

Hello all.

Been following this thread quit a bit.

Got my Maximus 2 days ago and followed instructions on the 1st page as to, how to remove the Heat Pipe assembly, I used the freezer method and it popped right off.

I also used nail polish remover to get the factory thermal compound off and it worked really well, it dissolves it and you just whipe it off with a tissue.

No need to destroy and scratch the heatsinks like ive seen somewhere on these forums :p


http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8195/img3402rk4.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img3402rk4.jpg)

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8554/img3415sa1.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img3415sa1.jpg)


I would like your opinion on these next 2 pics, look at my temps in CoreTemp, notice core #2 compared to the other cores.

Idle
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1363/idledefaultsettingsfe9.th.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=idledefaultsettingsfe9.jpg)

Load
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3668/loaddefaultsettingsrt7.th.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=loaddefaultsettingsrt7.jpg)

Also I cant post at 400fsb with the 266 strap... I can make it as far as 380fsb

380fsb load
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4420/380fsbprime95ep5.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=380fsbprime95ep5.jpg)

380fsb idle
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2504/380fsbprime95stoppedmi9.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=380fsbprime95stoppedmi9.jpg)

My temps look fine no?

I have now lapped my TRUE and the Q6600, I'm going to try again.

[Raver]

OK got it to boot into windows but had to use VCore of 1.60625v and CPU PLL of 1.64v.

All other settings are like Maglin's 400X9 from the 1st page.

It reboots after 5min of prime and temps are in the mid60's.

I guess this Q6600 will have to stay at 380X9, it's stable at this FSB.

Can running 6 120mm Antec case fans setting at MED on the 3 speed switch affect the OC? Is it actually a bad idea to run 6 of them off the mobo headers?

[ZenEffect]

OK got it to boot into windows but had to use VCore of 1.60625v and CPU PLL of 1.64v.

All other settings are like Maglin's 400X9 from the 1st page.

It reboots after 5min of prime and temps are in the mid60's.

I guess this Q6600 will have to stay at 380X9, it's stable at this FSB.

Can running 6 120mm Antec case fans setting at MED on the 3 speed switch affect the OC? Is it actually a bad idea to run 6 of them off the mobo headers?

i dont know for sure if running 6 fans off the header is a bad idea, but it seems like a bad idea... drawing that much current from the motherboard when it could go elsewhere. also, turn up your strap to 333 or 400. i had to do that to get stability *set at 400 for my setup*, and i actually was able to lower volts.

[nordien]

24/7 8*450 DDR1080 @ 4-4-4-12 @ 2.35v

My settings 24/7 for Q6600 G0 L724B418

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333MHZ
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.35
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.49
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

These settings are prime stable. I dropped the Crossfire setup. I didnt like the driver issues and tearing and artifacting is some games. I got a 8800 GTS 512 for the time being. When i dropped the Crossfire the NB temp dropped dramaticaly from about 58C idle to 40C idle. The Crossfire is giving the X38 a run for its money.......I like my new Team Xtreem PC6400 C3 2bg kit. It can do up to DDR1100 @ 4-4-4-12 on 2.35v bios.

8*450 = 3.6ghz @ DDR1080 @ 4-4-4-12

Everest read 9823 mb/s
Everest write 8101 mb/s
Everest copy 9136 mb/s
Latency 51.4

3dMark2006 16336 with the 8800 GTS 512 @ 775/1775/2000

[Grnfinger]

I have a strange issue that just happend today when I powerd up the pc

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0237.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/hmmm.jpg
Take note of Everest on the right even that was buggerd.
It took 9mins for the pc to boot up, thats right 9mins, and its slow as hell.
I cant even load a web page, it rebooted 3 times b4 I could make that screen shot.
Anyone have any ideas besides the RMA part. Willing to try anything at this point for the board is pretty much useless at the moment

[kup]

The voltage part is due to the vCore exceeding 1.6v in the bios. The slowing down and crashing sounds like nothing more than the Maximus Formula showing it's true nature, once again. Clear CMOS and try it @ stock?

[FZ1]

Oh snap!

[Grnfinger]

The voltage part is due to the vCore exceeding 1.6v in the bios. The slowing down and crashing sounds like nothing more than the Maximus Formula showing it's true nature, once again. Clear CMOS and try it @ stock?

My vcore in bios is set at 1.54
I will clear cmos, reset settings again and test

[Gunlance]

During one failed oc session, my board set my pll voltage to 2.0 on its own.

[Grnfinger]

Flashed bios back to 802 running smooth now:up:
will test it for a few hours then flash to 907

[eSp!s0]

During one failed oc session, my board set my pll voltage to 2.0 on its own.

Yes, there are a few users here and at forumdeluxx.de with this bug. I had absolutly the same bug with 2.0pll and i noticed it only 2times, because you don`t look after pll every time you are in bios.
And that could be the reason for the dead of my SE, but nobody will find out.

[eSp!s0]

Flashed bios back to 802 running smooth now:up:
will test it for a few hours then flash to 907

Why do most people use 0907?
OC is nearly the same with 0903(it`s a nanosecond faster ;) ) for almost everybody isn`t it?
And temperatures are right with 0903!?
regards

[Grnfinger]

Why do most people use 0907?
OC is nearly the same with 0903(it`s a nanosecond faster ;) ) for almost everybody isn`t it?
And temperatures are right with 0903!?
regards

Tested 901 and 903, both bios I couldnt post unless everything was set to auto.
907 seems to be 100% for me, perhaps I will try out 903 again and see if it was user error. I had the most success with 802 and 907 so far.

[newls1]

Yes, there are a few users here and at forumdeluxx.de with this bug. I had absolutly the same bug with 2.0pll and i noticed it only 2times, because you don`t look after pll every time you are in bios.
And that could be the reason for the dead of my SE, but nobody will find out.

I have my CPU PLL set to "auto" in the BIOS, so after reading this info, I went into hardware monitor inside the bios, and using the "AUTO" setting, puts my PLL Volts @ 1.648v IS THIS TO MUCH:confused:

[eSp!s0]

No, that is ok, but not much higher, if you set manually sometime.

[newls1]

No, that is ok, but not much higher, if you set manually sometime.

thanks:)

[bummerboy]

My board finally died, it rebooted itself, threw a bad checksum error, and refuses to post after that. So I copied bios 907, renamed it FORMULA.ROM, plug in the thumbdrive, restart, it reads and completed BIOS ROM recovery, and next thing i know, it doesnt even reboot anymore, just gets stuck at DETDRAM.

I tried everything, pull out power plug, take out cmos batt, reset bios, use 1 stick of RAM, everything. and it won't reboot anymore. ARG.... what is wrong with this board!


update: replaced the board, the reseller is not very happy, but since within time frame of their 30days 1-1 exchange, they gave me a new board, with 802 bios, ran everything fine, but strange thing is orthos will run fine for an hour or so, and then the program will crash and show me a windows error about unable to read a specific range of memory addresses, and then crashes windows and cause an auto reboot... however running memtest shows no error after a cold reboot, yet throw lotsa error after restarting from orthos/windows crash.

anyone has any ideas why it is so?

[binormalkilla]

I guess I'll go ahead and add my settings for 3.8 GHz on water with my sig rig:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 115
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax level: 2 (still testing....causes instability w clock twister ATM with dividers)

CPU Voltage : 1.5000 ( lower may be stable....going for 3.9 ATM )
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.63 (lower may be stable)
DRAM Voltage : 2.16
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50
South Bridge Voltage : auto
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

[Scooby]

Hey binormalkilla, how are your temps (idle/load) with your 3.8GHz clock?

[ReZ_]

Yes, there are a few users here and at forumdeluxx.de with this bug. I had absolutly the same bug with 2.0pll and i noticed it only 2times, because you don`t look after pll every time you are in bios.
And that could be the reason for the dead of my SE, but nobody will find out.

i experienced a similar bug, but it was my FSB term. that went to 2.0
weird!

[Grnfinger]

i experienced a similar bug, but it was my FSB term. that went to 2.0
weird!

Same here only when I load a saved OC profile from profile 1 ONLY
has never happend on profile 2

[binormalkilla]

Hey binormalkilla, how are your temps (idle/load) with your 3.8GHz clock?

Idle 27-33 depending on ambient.....30-33 with 67F ambient.
Load in Prime95 blended 50-55C (sometimes a bit higher) with 67F ambient.
During Crysis it stays around 40-45C.......I bet I can do 3.9 24/7.......I can run 4 GHz in 3dmark, but it's not anywhere near stable with the VCore that I used (1.55V actual I think)

[eSp!s0]

i experienced a similar bug, but it was my FSB term. that went to 2.0
weird!

You are right, it was fsb termination for me too, not pll!

[FZ1]

You are right, it was fsb termination for me too, not pll!

Cripes, I'm gonna have to keep my eye on that now. One more thing to worry about.:para:

[MKM]

Hey guys, what is actually the MB temp, some sort of average value across all sensors on the mobo or something?

And where can I find the max temps for MB, NB and SB? My MB and NB keep sounding the alert when they reach 30C and 45C on low load.

[Krav]

how do i change the cpu ratio control as i want to change the ratio cmos setting it wont highlight like the rest of the selections on the bit you change :( any ideas?

[eSp!s0]

tried "+" and "-" key!?

[Krav]

tried "+" and "-" key!?

yes...

[iadstudio]

how do i change the cpu ratio control as i want to change the ratio cmos setting it wont highlight like the rest of the selections on the bit you change :( any ideas?

just type a number when your on it.

[Talonman]

Hey guys, what is actually the MB temp, some sort of average value across all sensors on the mobo or something?

And where can I find the max temps for MB, NB and SB? My MB and NB keep sounding the alert when they reach 30C and 45C on low load.

NB temp and voltage data can be found here: :)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=162085

Some sort of average is what I specialize in.... :p:

[crash2k]

You are right, it was fsb termination for me too, not pll!

same happened to me just 1 hour ago. weird :(

[Spyrus]

A new find today.
For those having issues with dividers (especially strap 266@4/5)
try CPU GTL 0.61x and NB GTL 0.67

[eSp!s0]

Got settings for 450x8 1200ram and 500x7 1200ram with new non-SE together now:

500x7=3,5Ghz 1200ram
BIOS 903
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting : 7
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 5
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 15
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Disabled
-Relax Level 1

CPU Voltage : 1.32500 | 1.304 Cpu-z
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.29 | 1.30 Everest
DRAM Voltage : 2.14 | 2.20 Everest
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20 | 1.22 Everest
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050 | 1.06 Everest
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
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450x8=3,6Ghz 1200ram
BIOS 903
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting : Auto
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 5
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 15
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
(missing setting?: Auto)

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Enabled
-Boost Level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.33700 | 1.312 Cpu-z
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto | 1,65 Bios
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25 | 1.26 Everest
DRAM Voltage : 2.16 | 2.20 Everest
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20 | 1.22 Everest
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050 | 1.06 Everest
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
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[Gunlance]

After further testing with my board I've found that the more I increase my NB volts, the more likely I am to get a DET DRAM error. 8*400 is perfectly fine at NB 1.25. As soon as I raise it to *>1.35 I will get a det dram error. Anyone else notice this?

[fordf250]

tried "+" and "-" key!?


Try 533x7 or 545x7 all settings but vcore and ram at auto. The mb lifts vnb,pll,fsbt as fsb goes up. Auto at 545fsb gives 1.71Vnb, wow. This is my limit for ram, not cpu.

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2398585220067863468cJEwLC

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2992616810067863468pyBHKe

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2603692330067863468dUfPFP

[eSp!s0]

Why?
I don`t go with Auto voltages! Or do you mean sb else and quoted wrong?

[tommithy]

Thought I'd post my overclock here in case it helps anyone.

It's prime stable for 17 hours in blend. It's still running and will continue until I get home today.

Here are the settings:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relaxed: 2

CPU Voltage : 1.46
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.61
North Bridge Voltage : 1.5
DRAM Voltage : 2.16
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

http://www.miserable.com/~bofh/stuph/ocsmall.jpg (http://www.miserable.com/~bofh/stuph/oc.jpg)

[Dostoyevsky77]

Has anyone tried running RAM at CR1 on this board? I was doing some benching and couldn't get 1T. I set it in BIOS with no problems, but all my reporting/benching tools still say it's 2T... ?

[ElEctric_EyE]

Yeah, I've read about that, apparently only 1 mobo can do 1T ATM. I forget which one though... ASUS P5something or other.. maybe here:http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asus-p5k-deluxe-overclock_3.html

[Zucker2k]

Yeah, I've read about that, apparently only 1 mobo can do 1T ATM. I forget which one though... ASUS P5something or other.. maybe here:http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asus-p5k-deluxe-overclock_3.html

I've done 1T on this board, not worth it tho.

[Motobuddy]

I have been trying to fine tune my machine to run @ 3.6 and have had many issues, the first being a heat issue, I tried a cheap gigabyte liquid cooler and my temps were in the low 60c range so I built a swiftech system and crammed it in a CM stacker the temps then went 50 degrees unders load, still not what I was looking for so I started lowing the OC voltages and playing with other settings to get the power usage down. I had a crash and since then memory slot 1 and 2 do not work at all it will not post if any memory is in them, but I have 2 gig (2x1) in slot 3 and 4 and it passes OCCT 30 min just fine with a max temp of 37c and idle of 20c-22c how is this possible? nothing else changed. I like the new temps but I have 2 more sticks or reaper memory I need to put in, but if any thing is in slot one or two it will not post at all. Blast me with thoughts please I dont want to RMA it but, I dont want to be stuck with it if it is bad.

Asus maximus formua SE,q6600 g0, reaper ocz2rpr8002gk memory, visiontek hd3870, antek quatro 1000 watt PSU

BIOS 907
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency :450
FSB Strap to North Bridge :AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-900
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: auto
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : auto

CPU Voltage : 1.4250v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.6v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v
DRAM Voltage : 2.08v (2.11 acutal)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4v
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : ENABLED

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[CoolZone]

what is the difference between the SE and the non-SE version?

[Motobuddy]

It had the liquid cooled NB rather than the air cooled one.
the rig just completed 10 hours of testing with occt no crash and 36c go figure.

[tommithy]

Motobuddy, I'm unclear as to which memory slots you are running.

Is your memory currently in the white slots or blue slots?

Based upon your description I'm thinking you have one stick in a white slot and one in a blue slot and if that is the case then that could be causing some of your problems. Move the memory to either both blue or both white slots.

[Motobuddy]

it won't boot at all if I Move the memory the only configs that works are 1 stick in slot 3 or 4 or 2 sticks in 3&4 all 4 of my sticks will work like this. And yes the slots are mismatched and ran stable for 10hours

[Grnfinger]

I've done 1T on this board, not worth it tho.

What kinda of temps are you getting on that wolfdale?
I got my eye on one now and I cant decide.

[Grnfinger]

it won't boot at all if I Move the memory the only configs that works are 1 stick in slot 3 or 4 or 2 sticks in 3&4 all 4 of my sticks will work like this. And yes the slots are mismatched and ran stable for 10hours

Sorry I'm lazy today so I'll ask what already may have been posted

What kinda of ram?
Bios?
Ram volts?

When you have 2 sticks in the WHITE or BLUE slots what is the error / point at which the pc hangs on your LCD poster?

[Zucker2k]

What kinda of temps are you getting on that wolfdale?
I got my eye on one now and I cant decide.

Temps are amazing on this chip. I'm not even paying attention to temps anymore. Gave it 1.480 (25-27c ambient), chip never topped 50c.

[iadstudio]

Yeah, I've read about that, apparently only 1 mobo can do 1T ATM. I forget which one though... ASUS P5something or other.. maybe here:http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asus-p5k-deluxe-overclock_3.html

my 680i did 1T with two sticks, no problem.

[Dostoyevsky77]

Yeah. I have a P5N32-E that can do 1T. It worked out for me on some overclocks to drop down to 1:1, so that meant running slow enough that 1T was feasible (around 800MHz or slower).

I was just trying to bench CR1, but I couldn't get it! BIOS would show 1T, but all other reporting said 2T! Oh, well... as Zucker says, it's probably not even worth benching.

Here's some other benches, mostly on 680i but there are some on this board with sigged RAM and the G.Skill PC2-8000 2x2s.

[Krav]

Quick question what is jmicron pata/sata controller and do i need it on?

I got 3 sata hard drives but everytime i boot it says jmicron disk something: No any drive found.

Do i really need this enabled?

[kup]

It's the IDE controller. If you don't use IDE drives you can happily disable it.

[Krav]

thanks

[Zucker2k]

Here's a 1T screenshot. Couldn't get higher with quad, will try with my dually and see if these numbers improve. My X38 chipset chipset is finally coming alive; I got it to 9x540 fsb, 545 crashes :(. I'm more than happy though.

[crazeconnolly]

hi all

What temperatures are allowed for north and south bridge on this board?

c.

[Motobuddy]

its bios 907, ocz reaper pc2 6400, 2.11 acutal volts,
it never gives any screen, it checks cpu then goes to detect dram and hangs,
that is the same haning point for any configuration that uses slot 1 and 2.

[Zucker2k]

Another 1T shot:

[jorgito05]

Here's a 1T screenshot. Couldn't get higher with quad, will try with my dually and see if these numbers improve. My X38 chipset chipset is finally coming alive; I got it to 9x540 fsb, 545 crashes :(. I'm more than happy though.

I can not get 3-3-3-10. Kingston6400, KHX6400D2ULK2/2G these are kits of (2x1G), I now have 2 kits 4G total. One time I was able to boot up at the above settings, I beleve it's when I had one kit installed only.

Kingston specs say these kits are tested to run 800Mhz 3-3-3-10 @ 2.3-2.35 Spd jedec say 5-5-5-15 @ 1.8 I set my dram v to 2.35, wont boot up, also tried Comand rate 2t and trans booster disabled, relax level 0. with everything on auto get 5-5-5-18 @ 1.97 dram v. ????????

What can I change?

[KALISPIMENTA]

Quick question, how do i set the ram manually to 800 mhz it keeps over clocking it to 866+ preventing me from booting higher then 3.8ghz

[Zucker2k]

I can not get 3-3-3-10. Kingston6400, KHX6400D2ULK2/2G these are kits of (2x1G), I now have 2 kits 4G total. One time I was able to boot up at the above settings, I beleve it's when I had one kit installed only.

Kingston specs say these kits are tested to run 800Mhz 3-3-3-10 @ 2.3-2.35 Spd jedec say 5-5-5-15 @ 1.8 I set my dram v to 2.35, wont boot up, also tried Comand rate 2t and trans booster disabled, relax level 0. with everything on auto get 5-5-5-18 @ 1.97 dram v. ????????

What can I change?

Here are my timings for 1t

3-3-3-3-1-20-1-1-7-1-4-4-6-4-6

333 strap, 1:1, fsb 333 = DDR2 667 (you can also do it on the 266 strap, but at fsb 266; 4:5 = DDR2 667)

DRAM static read = enabled
AI Clock Twister = Strong
Transaction Booster = Enabled, 1
NB = 1.55
VDimm = 2.2 (2.4 actual)

Hope this helps

[neo_rtr]

Hi .. Does any one have managed to use a QX6700 and bring it up to 4Ghz?
I been trying for some time now and allthough iam stable at 3.6Ghz cant even goto 3.8Ghz nor 4.
for example getting to 3.8Ghz but fails at the first test of everest (FPU Julia) sp have not done any further. any tips welcome

[Aurhinius]

Quick Question -

Has anyone managed FSB's above 450mhz with Quad Core CPU's?

I have tried to get above 450 on mine and I just can't get it stable. I know the CPU can do the actual speed and I know the memory can do 500mhz but the board just doesn't post past about 460mhz even with everything on auto.

I see a few bios settings posted for 500+ mhz FSB but I think those are Dual Core?

[Viss]

Board wil do it, its the quad that doesnt like higher FSB most likely. Max FSB i got on Maximus so far:

Quad air
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/9x46716525vbios.jpg

E6600 air (same max as on any 965/P35 board ive used, its chips max)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/7x550FSB1M.jpg

E6600 dice:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/FSBdiceX38.jpg

[Dostoyevsky77]

Neo_Rtr, I can get 4+ GHz, but my temperatures are totally unacceptable even with a high multi. What multis have you tried?

Aurhinius, I've tried as high as 465 with no problem. Again, temperatures are my limiting factor.

Zucker, thanks for the screenies. 540FSB on your Wolfdale is awesome. It gives me some hope for the Q9450 (I'm pre-ordered at TankGuys). Thanks for the 1T screenies. It makes me feel better to see bandwidth in the gutter!

***EDIT: Loc.O, you posted immediately before me. Can you share some of your Q9550 findings on this board? I'm infinitely curious how my Q9450 will do. Thanks!

[Viss]

Compared to other results ive seen the chip ive used is probably a bit less then average but the low max FSB with low multi makes these chips rather useless imo. If you have a good G0 i wouldnt go Q9x50.

Max FSB:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/7x451.jpg

Max 1M (FSB with 8.5 multi a little less then 7)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/loc_oc/max1M135biosLLenabled.jpg

Some 3D:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/AQ33600850-1250.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/20013600850-1250.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/20033600850-1250.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/20053600850-1250.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/Viss1/20063600850-1250.jpg

[eSp!s0]

475x8=3800Mhz, still testing, but it looks good:
BIOS 903
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Auto
FSB Frequency : 475
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1141
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 5
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 15
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Disabled
-Relax Level 1

CPU Voltage : 1.42500 | 1.400 Cpu-z
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25 | 1.26 Everest
DRAM Voltage : 2.14 | 2.20 Everest
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20 | 1.22 Everest
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050 | 1.06 Everest
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
http://www.abload.de/thumb/non-se38ghz1141ram12vqf.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=non-se38ghz1141ram12vqf.png)

[Dostoyevsky77]

Wow. Thanks for posting that, Loc.O! I might have to change my order to an E8400... crap.

[Chuck12]

Hey guys , been over a week now trying to post and finally i`ve been processed,,yippee. firstly thanks to all who have contributed their bios tweaks , i cant thank you blokes enough! anyway an hour or so ago i changed the stock HS on my e6850 which was running at 67c load at 3.6 gig oc and around 33-34 idle. Well today i picked up a thermalright 120 extreme and i was scared very scared !firstly i had to dismount the MB to slip the thermalright bracket underneath,,scary for an absolute novice but i managed , then i was gonna go way beyond my comfort zone and lap the cpu,which i did and i must say iam still in a state of shock:o),,anyway i wont bore you blokes much longer other than to say thanks again and check out the stable prime 95 specs below. p.s idle 31-32 load 59c prime95 for 2 or so hours!

bios 907

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 430
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-860mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) :Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.46875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.16
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075
Loadline Calibration : Enabled

CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage :DDR2-Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-Ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5


NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[Chuck12]

ok my timing re events may be out a little but prime stable for atleast 2 big ones..:o)...thx

[neo_rtr]

Neo_Rtr, I can get 4+ GHz, but my temperatures are totally unacceptable even with a high multi. What multis have you tried?


I have try to run with the following
400 X 10, 380 X10, 450 X 9, 425 X9 , 333 x 12 etc.
i did manage to get it stable with 3.8 ghz but didnt last long.
Voltage wise i have try from 1.40V up to 1.70V with variations
Iam about to change the memory to a 1200Mhz stick and see if that helps out. Glad if you can post your settings for me to try them out.
Thank you

[Warboy]

Wow. Thanks for posting that, Loc.O! I might have to change my order to an E8400... crap.

Just get a Q9650

You do know a Quad core will be a Dual core no matter the clock right?

So a 3.7Ghz Quad Can be a 5Ghz Dual. Well... In Pure Performance, maybe not SuperPI.

[Dostoyevsky77]

Yeah. Right now, that's all a C2Q is good for: benchmarks. Today, nothing is taking advantage of my quad. Maybe in a couple months or a year, it'll matter. But, by then there should be more C2Qs to choose from.

[Enzane]

It seems like i have a problem overclocking with this board.

if i go with the cpu lvl up to Q6850 all works great, but i want to OC manually, nothing works. even with 350 fsb, which is absolutly nothing, i cant boot.

i lower the memory to 700mhz for example, and give like 1.4V to the CPU, and 1.5 to the NB but nothing works. if the pc does boot, i gives me a blue screen and doesnt want to get into windows.

i am really frustrated here... can u give any advice, tips or tricks? :shrug:

[neo_rtr]

:shrug: I have again try the 475 X8, 425 X 9 with
DDR2 HyperX PC9600 2048MB CL5, HyperX 1GB DDR2 1200Mhz
but will not even boot. volts 1.4 to 1.55V nothing...
as soon gets into vista blue screen and reboots.

[Warboy]

Yeah. Right now, that's all a C2Q is good for: benchmarks. Today, nothing is taking advantage of my quad. Maybe in a couple months or a year, it'll matter. But, by then there should be more C2Qs to choose from.

Well, Not really, Crysis takes advantage of it, and most games coming out will. Its a good investment.

In crysis i get 50-80% CPU usage.

For a Dual, that would mean 100-160% usage.

So, Its fair, also, Physics in most games runs better with a Quad-Core system. Like Crysis, UT3, and HL2.

[Raver]

What would you guys associate a hard lock up in windows under prime test #5 (blend test), cpu, ram or nb?

Windows lock's up but my LCD poster's time keeps on working, mouse and kb are non responsive.

[Warboy]

What would you guys associate a hard lock up in windows under prime test #5 (blend test), cpu, ram or nb?

Windows lock's up but my LCD poster's time keeps on working, mouse and kb are non responsive.
It could be a mix of them.

CPU - Lock ups or shutdowns.
NB - Lock ups or Random Reboots.
Mem - Lock ups or Image Artifacts.

(I can go deeper in this but I choice not to)

So Bump up your voltages, and Tweak, Overclocking takes time.

[KALISPIMENTA]

Quick question, how do i set the ram manually to 800 mhz it keeps over clocking it to 866+ preventing me from booting higher then 3.8ghz
Can i unlink the memory to the cpu?

[Zucker2k]

Hey guys , been over a week now trying to post and finally i`ve been processed,,yippee. firstly thanks to all who have contributed their bios tweaks , i cant thank you blokes enough! anyway an hour or so ago i changed the stock HS on my e6850 which was running at 67c load at 3.6 gig oc and around 33-34 idle. Well today i picked up a thermalright 120 extreme and i was scared very scared !firstly i had to dismount the MB to slip the thermalright bracket underneath,,scary for an absolute novice but i managed , then i was gonna go way beyond my comfort zone and lap the cpu,which i did and i must say iam still in a state of shock:o),,anyway i wont bore you blokes much longer other than to say thanks again and check out the stable prime 95 specs below. p.s idle 31-32 load 59c prime95 for 2 or so hours!

bios 907

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 430
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-860mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) :Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.46875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.16
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075
Loadline Calibration : Enabled

CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage :DDR2-Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-Ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5


NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

:welcome:

[Z-301]

I've had this board for about a week now. First 4 days, everything was great - stable in OCCT and Prime (overnight). After a heavy gaming session on day 5, I shut down and restarted later and XP 32-bit wouldn't load fully - it kept blue screening. After a few hours, I traced the problem to the wireless card (Dlink DWA-556). I put it in the lower x16 slot instead of a PCIEx1 slot and things started to work again, but now about every third or fourth boot, I'm getting an "overclocking failed" message - don't know why because everything is stable when it does boot up (OCCT and Prime again). I couldn't get anything to work with default BIOS settings when the wireless card was in the x1 slot, and I couldn't even get in to do a Windows Repair! HDs all passed tests fine. RAM passed memtest. Here are my critical specs and settings:

Celeron 420 (waiting for Q9450)
Corsair Dominator PC2-8500 2GB
PCP&C Quad 750 Sliencer
Raptor 150s in Raid 0

Bios 0602

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
FSB Frequency : 375
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1200mhz

Everything else at AUTO or the defaut setting.

The NB and SB both go to about 50C on a load (SB got to 54C at max one time).

So what I need help with is figuring out if the board is bad (with the PCEx1 slot or something else) or if I just need to do a BIOS update, or add some cooling, or even something else. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks...

[MKM]

So this is my first over clock, based on the anandtech setup, but with 475x8 fsb and 1.39 vcore (E6850 g0 cpu). 0401 vanilla maximus bios.

I tried to run prime 25.5, but the cpu temp reached 64C so I stopped it rather quickly. Now, this shouldn't be correct, as I've got watercooling and once I stopped it, the temp dropped from 64 to 34 in 3 secs. shall I flash my bios to the newest version or something?

Any advice that may improve my stability is more than welcome.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7452/clockzp7.png

[Dostoyevsky77]

Zucker2K, how is your E8400 coming along? I have one in the mail. Care to share any tips?

MKM, it is normal for the temperature to fall that quickly. It means you have good cooling! Your vNB and FSB Termination voltages look a touch high, too. Can you dial back on vCore?

[MKM]

Ok, so should i try lowering the vcore?

What should the FSBT and the vNB be like? And what max temperature should I avoid for my CPU and NB, is 64C fine?

[Grnfinger]

:welcome:

You got any 3DMark scores to post on that wolfdale???

I'm getting mine on Saturday:clap:
They have 5 comming in on Saturday and I bought 2 of them as well.
Going to pick the sweet chip and sell the other on ebay

[Dostoyevsky77]

How will you know the sweet chip, or are you opening both?

I'm in for the E8400... should be here by the weekend. Hoping it goes something like THIS (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=301051) (he's running a Tuniq).

[Grnfinger]

of course I will open both

[Dostoyevsky77]

Not a bad strategy.

How much $ will you loose selling an open box?

[Grnfinger]

Dunno I guess its up to the bidders on Ebay
If the first one is rather promising and I get my 4.2GHz at respectable temps and voltage then I will just return the other CPU.
If I am forced to open the other cpu no biggie I might build another box and sell my quad, dunno exactly the whole plan but I'm sure I will do ok.
I bought my FX-60 for around 500 bucks, ran it for a year and a half, sold it on ebay for 425 so I can say I lost nothing on that deal.

[neo_rtr]

Gents, any suggestions on the QX6700 overclock problem of mine, ianm dying here... cant pass 3.6Ghz and it is eating me alive..
there must be a soul out there or in here running same or similar set up as i do
:welcome: any suggestions

[jorgito05]

Here are my timings for 1t

3-3-3-3-1-20-1-1-7-1-4-4-6-4-6

333 strap, 1:1, fsb 333 = DDR2 667 (you can also do it on the 266 strap, but at fsb 266; 4:5 = DDR2 667)

DRAM static read = enabled
AI Clock Twister = Strong
Transaction Booster = Enabled, 1
NB = 1.55
VDimm = 2.2 (2.4 actual)

Hope this helps

Thank you.

[Zucker2k]

Zucker2K, how is your E8400 coming along? I have one in the mail. Care to share any tips?



MKM, it is normal for the temperature to fall that quickly. It means you have good cooling! Your vNB and FSB Termination voltages look a touch high, too. Can you dial back on vCore?
Will be posting my settings soon... :D

34 idle should easily hit mid 60s imho


You got any 3DMark scores to post on that wolfdale???

I'm getting mine on Saturday:clap:
They have 5 comming in on Saturday and I bought 2 of them as well.
Going to pick the sweet chip and sell the other on ebay

Not yet, with my crappy gfx card, I don't even want to bother; if you guys want I can run cpu test alone.


of course I will open both

:rofl: :ROTF:

Sold my Q6600 on ebay for $305 about 3 weeks ago; I can't say that was a bad deal? :clap:

Teaser: priming away @ 4.4 ghz on server 2008 x64, 4.5 ghz is next :shocked:

[Dostoyevsky77]

Is that CPU-Z reading vCore correctly?

60 load @ H2O probably means I won't get that high, but it's good to see it haul arse on this board.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks quad -> E8400 isn't crazy. My wife gets my QX6700, since I lapped it & would probably get jack on eBay, but you did well! Thank god for n00bz.

[Grnfinger]

Not yet, with my crappy gfx card, I don't even want to bother; if you guys want I can run cpu test alone.


I would be interested in the CPU only score if its not a bother

[Dostoyevsky77]

Gents, any suggestions on the QX6700 overclock problem of mine, ianm dying here... cant pass 3.6Ghz and it is eating me alive..
there must be a soul out there or in here running same or similar set up as i do
:welcome: any suggestions

Hi. I got your PM. Here is what I have in BIOS and Everest:

***EDIT: Oops, that's for 3.6. If you look in my sig & click on my "3.83GHz", it's actually a link to my CPU-Z. 3.83 was just too hot for everyday.

[Zucker2k]

I would be interested in the CPU only score if its not a bother

Wouldn't be a problem.

Here are a few more teasers:

[Zucker2k]

I figure 4.4ghz is about the new 3.6ghz standard. Here ya go:

[daniel.j]

Hello boys,

I finally bought this beautiful board... It works perfectly when not overclocked, but I am having some issues when I try to overclock.

My rig:

ASUS Maximus Formula (nonSE)
Intel C2D E8200
4x1GB GeIL Ultra PC6400
2x250GB Seagate 7200.10 410AS
Sapphire HD3870
XFi Xtreme Gamer Fatality Pro

I temporary use BOX cooling, becouse my XP-120 is on RMA (it wasn't recieved with LGA cip)... But even at 3.6GHz the temps are good.


If all the settings are set to AUTO, everything works perfectly, but if the voltages are set manually, it goes wrong and tells me the error. And even if I set RAM settings to manual, it shows BSOD when loading Windows. To get to Win I have to set everything to AUTO, just Vcore is set to 1.300V, LC Enabled and RAM to 2.26V.

Hope, the problem is in RAM, is that possible? (If the Vram is lower, than 2.2V, it doesn't boot at all.)

Thanx guys for same ideas.

daniel.j

[nordien]

Hello boys,

I finally bought this beautiful board... It works perfectly when not overclocked, but I am having some issues when I try to overclock.

My rig:

ASUS Maximus Formula (nonSE)
Intel C2D E8200
4x1GB GeIL Ultra PC6400
2x250GB Seagate 7200.10 410AS
Sapphire HD3870
XFi Xtreme Gamer Fatality Pro

I temporary use BOX cooling, becouse my XP-120 is on RMA (it wasn't recieved with LGA cip)... But even at 3.6GHz the temps are good.


If all the settings are set to AUTO, everything works perfectly, but if the voltages are set manually, it goes wrong and tells me the error. And even if I set RAM settings to manual, it shows BSOD when loading Windows. To get to Win I have to set everything to AUTO, just Vcore is set to 1.300V, LC Enabled and RAM to 2.26V.

Hope, the problem is in RAM, is that possible? (If the Vram is lower, than 2.2V, it doesn't boot at all.)

Thanx guys for same ideas.

daniel.j

If you are using 4x1 g dual channel memory the chance is that you must give the memory 2.35v and/or increase the NB voltage. The 4x1 configuration is putting a heavy load on the northbridge, so increase that voltage to.

[neo_rtr]

Hi. I got your PM. Here is what I have in BIOS and Everest:


Thank you. will try it just now..


Edit. will not even boot with the settings. gets stuck DET RAM. i even increased th ddr2 volt 2.20v 5-5-5-15 no good.

the funny thing is that will do 400 x 9 (3.6ghz) but not 410 x 9 (3,690 mhz) blue screen
on the other hand just try to loosen up my mem timmings and can do 460 x 8 at 1.5Vcore

The following settings working ok, this is just a 10 increase on the FSB based on my previous settings running 3.6Ghz for few months now.
Again i am not able to pass that thus the reson of this post

Extreme Tweaker 3,690 mhz
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual 8
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 460
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 920
DRAM Command Rate : 2
DRAM Timing Control: Manual manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: auto
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : auto

CPU Voltage : 1,50625V
CPU PLL Voltage : auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1,65V (1,71V in everest)
DRAM Voltage : 2,18V (2,32V in everest)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1,52v
South Bridge Voltage : 1,075v
Loadline Calibration : enable
CPU GTL Reference : auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : ddr ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt Cpu Volt
Voltiminder LED : enable

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

[daniel.j]

Ya, will try later. Thanx guy. :clap:

[Pandamonia]

I am pretty pissed off that the only mem divider that works after 475fsb is the 333 strap 5:6 which means you need ram that can do 1200mhz+ just to get over 500fsb. not even 1:1 works!

Asus better fix this!

[sambir]

I am pretty pissed off that the only mem divider that works after 475fsb is the 333 strap 5:6 which means you need ram that can do 1200mhz+ just to get over 500fsb. not even 1:1 works!

Asus better fix this!

I have the same problem the ram wont work at 1:1 so if i put fsb on 500 the ram needs to work at 1000mhz but it doesnt. It boots if i set transaction booster on relax 7. The ram is very stable at 400fsb---> 400 strap 1066mhz 5-5-5-15 2.0 volt.

[grimpy]

Anyone got any suggestions for this problem?

Got a E8400 the other day currently running it at 9x445 on the 400 strap,ive tried running it at 8x500 but the board is having none of it and wont boot into windows.

my memory is rated upto 500 so thats not a problem and with my E6600 on the old 0505 bios i had it running at 7x500 and that wasnt a problem.

Using the 0903 bios at the moment,also my board isnt displaying the correct idle temps either with asus probe,speedfan or coretemp.

One last thing is the 0907 still the latest bios?

[Zucker2k]

Anyone got any suggestions for this problem?

Got a E8400 the other day currently running it at 9x445 on the 400 strap,ive tried running it at 8x500 but the board is having none of it and wont boot into windows.

my memory is rated upto 500 so thats not a problem and with my E6600 on the old 0505 bios i had it running at 7x500 and that wasnt a problem.

Using the 0903 bios at the moment,also my board isnt displaying the correct idle temps either with asus probe,speedfan or coretemp.

Have you tried the 5:6 divider?

I'm currently testing 8x500 @ 4ghz on the 333 strap.

RAM = 1200
Static Read = Auto
Trans Booster= Auto
AI Clock Twister = Auto
Vcore = 1.240v (load) You may need more - set 1.3 and step down gradually
CPUVLL=1.50v This is the most crucial in imho; I clocked my cpu all the way to 4.86Ghz without touching this. Soon as I raise it to 1.52v, system won't post. So watch out for that.
NB = 1.49v
Vdimm = 2.26v (2.3v real)
VFSB = 1.50v
SB = 1.100v
Loadline Calibration = Enabled (If you have done the pencil mod, I suggest you wipe it clean when you enable this, otherwise you may experience random boots and general instability).
SB 1.5 = 1.60v

Hope this helps.

Oh, I have to add, this is really a great board. This board really shines with 45nm hardware. :P

[Dostoyevsky77]

That's some nice RAM bandwidth, Zucker! I wonder if I can hit 1200MHz on 4x1 if I loosen to 5-5-5-15... it wasn't possible on my P5N32-E, but 4x1 seems a lot less temperamental on this board.

I can't wait to get my hands on my 8400... your screenies aren't helping, LOL! I hope it gets here by the weekend.

[fordf250]

I am pretty pissed off that the only mem divider that works after 475fsb is the 333 strap 5:6 which means you need ram that can do 1200mhz+ just to get over 500fsb. not even 1:1 works!

Asus better fix this!

I dont understand. 545fsb with 1:1 E6600 and ddr400 below.


http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2992616810067863468pyBHKe

All settings auto but Vcore and Vram OCCT is running just to show its not a suicide run. I dont think my ddr400 ram would pass memtest at this speed but did pass at 533 1:1.

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2398585220067863468cJEwLC

Sorry no ram settings in that pic.

[grimpy]

Have you tried the 5:6 divider?

I'm currently testing 8x500 @ 4ghz on the 333 strap.

RAM = 1200
Static Read = Auto
Trans Booster= Auto
AI Clock Twister = Auto
Vcore = 1.240v (load) You may need more - set 1.3 and step down gradually
CPUVLL=1.50v This is the most crucial in imho; I clocked my cpu all the way to 4.86Ghz without touching this. Soon as I raise it to 1.52v, system won't post. So watch out for that.
NB = 1.49v
Vdimm = 2.26v (2.3v real)
VFSB = 1.50v
SB = 1.100v
Loadline Calibration = Enabled (If you have done the pencil mod, I suggest you wipe it clean when you enable this, otherwise you may experience random boots and general instability).
SB 1.5 = 1.60v

Hope this helps.

Oh, I have to add, this is really a great board. This board really shines with 45nm hardware. :P

Still no luck in getting 8x500,these are my settings can you see anythong wrong?

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2291/bios010912x684rz8.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6991/bios011912x684ot4.jpg

[fordf250]

Try 1.6Vnb, and what are your nb temps? I leave the Vnb on auto and the mb puts it at the right spot for fsb. How are you cooling the nb? I am running an 80cfm fan on the nb giving 33C at 1.71Vnb at 545fsb.My mb does not like the 333 strap and runs better with it on auto giving 400 strap I think.

Also what is the booster and twister settings at?

[Zucker2k]

Still no luck in getting 8x500,these are my settings can you see anythong wrong?

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2291/bios010912x684rz8.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6991/bios011912x684ot4.jpg

Raise these:

DRAM = 2.16v
NB = 1.55v
VFSB = 154v

You may want to check that vcore too; it seems over the top for 4Ghz.

You're running a 500fsb, 1:1 divider, I suggest you run cas 4 timings, may be 4-4-4-12-30.

Are you able to post at all with the earlier settings?

[grimpy]

Try 1.6Vnb, and what are your nb temps? I leave the Vnb on auto and the mb puts it at the right spot for fsb. How are you cooling the nb? I am running an 80cfm fan on the nb giving 33C at 1.71Vnb at 545fsb.

Also what is the booster and twister settings at?

44c,i`ll try raising it to 1.6

booster and twister setters are all on auto.

[grimpy]

Raise these:

DRAM = 2.16v
NB = 1.55v
VFSB = 154v

You may want to check that vcore too; it seems over the top for 4Ghz.

You're running a 500fsb, 1:1 divider, I suggest you run cas 4 timings, may be 4-4-4-12-30.

Are you able to post at all with the earlier settings?

Wouldnt post,when i hit save and exit it wouldnt boot just said failed overclock.

Whats VFSB?

My memory is G.Skill 2x2GB PC8000 5-5-5-15

[grimpy]

Still no luck,everytime i try for 500 when i hit save & exit i just get "det dram" showing on the lcd poster and nothing happens.

The vcore i have might seem alittle high but anything less and i get BSOD`s.

[Zucker2k]

Still no luck,everytime i try for 500 when i hit save & exit i just get "det dram" showing on the lcd poster and nothing happens.

The vcore i have might seem alittle high but anything less and i get BSOD`s.

Could you try the 5:6 divider? That would put you at DDR2 1200

[grimpy]

Could you try the 5:6 divider? That would put you at DDR2 1200

How do i do that?

[Dostoyevsky77]

FYI, those G.Skill won't POST at CAS4 for any reasonable speed. They don't like aggressive overclocks, either. Even though recommended voltage was 2.0-2.1, I always run mine between 2.1 and 2.25 with no problem. I haven't had to return them yet while in the meantime, I've fried four sticks of Ballistix.

The seem to really like speeds between 1000 and 1100. On this board, I've only run them at 12:10 and capped out at 1008 before I switched them out for the Ballistix. They seemed too touchy. Maybe you have some other RAM you can try 500FSB with?

[Krav]

help! im really confused.


Im on 333x9 at the moment and changed my cpu voltage: to 1.2750 now when i check cpu-z it says core voltage is 1.200 V, i heard of the maximus overvolting but not undervolting am i reading this wrong?

[Dostoyevsky77]

I really think CPU-Z is utter junk when it comes to vCore. If you don't have Everest Ultimate, the free version does a "good enough" job (LINKY (http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html)).

[neo_rtr]

I have try 11 X 340, 350, 360, 370 with Vcore from 1.4V to 1.7V with no luck
If the QX6700 cant do 4.0Ghz on water then whats the problem???
the motherboard?

[Grnfinger]

Here is the Wolfdale
BATCH#Q740A553T Pack Date 12/20/07
EXCELLENT VID :up: 1.1125V
going to bench after I prime the chip,
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/Wolfdale.jpg

[Grnfinger]

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/wdtest.jpg

[bummerboy]

Hi Guys,

need help troubleshooting, i previously posted about it, but i need to ask again, my system seems stable right out of a cold boot (power off main), memtest ok, prime95x2 runs for a few hours, then somehow, it will trip and reboot. On this reboot, if i do a memtest, i will get LOADS of error, and i will most likely have problem entering windows. even if after entering windows, my prime wont be stable.

I had replaced my antec trio650 PSU with a thermaltake toughpower 750w, because I found that my 12V rail dropped to 11.3v on antec during max loading. Now 12v rails stays at 12.04 which is good. So I thought my problem was solved, but seems like it isnt!

My oc is somewhat modest,
e6750@3.33, fsb416,
4x1gb ballistix6400@1000mhz 5-5-5-15, using 333strap, twister light
NB@1.59v,
vCore@1.35V(+-0.01V),
temp idle about 32-35C, on load max 60C,
cpupll@1.65V
vfsb@1.40V

I have a simple 7900GS and 4xSeagate Barracuda, I calculated and my system power requirement is still much below 750W.

Any ideas/suggestions? Please help thanks in advance

[Grnfinger]

Hi Guys,

need help troubleshooting, i previously posted about it, but i need to ask again, my system seems stable right out of a cold boot (power off main), memtest ok, prime95x2 runs for a few hours, then somehow, it will trip and reboot. On this reboot, if i do a memtest, i will get LOADS of error, and i will most likely have problem entering windows. even if after entering windows, my prime wont be stable.

I had replaced my antec trio650 PSU with a thermaltake toughpower 750w, because I found that my 12V rail dropped to 11.3v on antec during max loading. Now 12v rails stays at 12.04 which is good. So I thought my problem was solved, but seems like it isnt!

My oc is somewhat modest,
e6750@3.33, fsb416,
4x1gb ballistix6400@1000mhz 5-5-5-15, using 333strap, twister light
NB@1.59v,
vCore@1.35V(+-0.1V),
temp idle about 32-35C, on load max 60C,
cpupll@1.65V
vfsb@1.40V

I have a simple 7900GS and 4xSeagate Barracuda, I calculated and my system power requirement is still much below 750W.

Any ideas/suggestions? Please help thanks in advance


What is your NB temps and how much volts are you putting in your ram?

[Dostoyevsky77]

It probably isn't related, but your CPU PLL seems high. Intel recommends no higher than 1.6v. I found setting 1.6 in BIOS would give me around 1.68, IIRC and some instability. I have turned it down to 1.54v and eliminated some sources of instability while keeping the voltage below reference.

I would also like to know your vDIMM.

[Orbitech]

Quoted from another thread..


I took my Maximus Formula yesterday along with 4x1gb (800MHz) Crucial Ballistix. (already updated bios to 0907)

My problem is that I cannot even post @ 3.6GHz which was my previous 24/7 O/C with my E6600 on a P5W DH dlx and with 2x1Gb Gskill (800MHz)..

The LCD poster keeps saying "DET RAM" which probably means that it doesn't like something in the memory settings in the bios. I know 4x1Gb can be a PITA for O/C, but I cannot understand that it doesn't even boot with auto mem settings @3.6GHz (9x400) and 266/333 divider (that is even with looser timings 5-5-5-15 than the rated 4-4-4-12@800MHz).

Can someone tell me what do I need to check/experiment in the bios with? That is to be more specific, what settings can cause the system not to boot after the O/C? I don't think it has to do with the cpu probably new memory is causing this problem.

I'll keep my E6600 till the Q9450 will be here so I need your help with this new mobo, in order to restore my 24/7 O/C with this cpu.

Thnx in advance

I managed to run it @3.6GHz with ram @1:1 for now and with lower than rated timings to eliminate ram issues. It is stable.

So after experimenting a bit I found out this.
IF I shutdown and cut the power completely from the psu and then try to restart I won't have posting issues. But if I just shutdown and then try to restart it won't post.. :confused:

What can be causing this?

[cadaveca]

Chipset is too hot.

[Orbitech]

Chipset is too hot.

Ok I'll check it. Sometimes it posts closes after 2 secs and then in the second automatic try to post I won't have issues.
I can't be sure if it is surely related to the O/C but it seems that it doesn't like something that I can't be sure of..

So what you're basically saying is to lower the chipset voltage?

[cadaveca]

well, with 4 dimms, you are probably just at the point of maximum FSB when you experience this behavior. Upping volts will increase stability, but you'll find that the board will not soft boot...

So, it may not be just volts too high, but temps that are too high for that voltage. I get this behavior @ 450mhz FSB when using stock cooling on the board, but putting the board under water made it boot every time...but the maximum did not increase very much...and that's with dual or quad core, so definately a board issue.

[Renegade5399]

Quoted from another thread..



I managed to run it @3.6GHz with ram @1:1 for now and with lower than rated timings to eliminate ram issues. It is stable.

So after experimenting a bit I found out this.
IF I shutdown and cut the power completely from the psu and then try to restart I won't have posting issues. But if I just shutdown and then try to restart it won't post.. :confused:

What can be causing this?

I have the exact same issue. It will reboot from windows fine. It will power on from a power failure or cord disconnect fine. But if I do a shut down then try to boot back up, it hangs on DET DRAM. Seems to be an issue with the board (bug if you will). I have tried more chipset volts, up to 1.75v, and this did not help the issue. Most likely just a bug when 4 sticks are installed.


Chipset is too hot.

This is not the case. My chipset loads at 28°C. I have exceptional watercooling. Adding more volts to the NB didn't help either. Still have the same booting issue.

[Orbitech]

Yeap I just saw it in the web. Seems like a cold boot bug that many are experiencing.. Not so annoying but I hope they can fix it through a bios update if it's fixable..

Thnx for the confirmation ;) :up:

[bummerboy]

What is your NB temps and how much volts are you putting in your ram?

Hi, NB temp is about 48C-50C on max load.


It probably isn't related, but your CPU PLL seems high. Intel recommends no higher than 1.6v. I found setting 1.6 in BIOS would give me around 1.68, IIRC and some instability. I have turned it down to 1.54v and eliminated some sources of instability while keeping the voltage below reference.

I would also like to know your vDIMM.

Hi thanks for suggestion, setting low pll now.

my vdimm is set to 2.10V, giving me about 2.22V in everest, spec for ballistix @ 1000 is 2.2, but if i use 2.08 in bios i only get about 2.19, and since i using 4sticks i figured 2.22 is ok.

btw occt 30min passes

[cadaveca]

This is not the case. My chipset loads at 28°C. I have exceptional watercooling. Adding more volts to the NB didn't help either. Still have the same booting issue.

At what point do you start ot experience this issue, and how did you resolve it? Cooling NB helped for me...so maybe strap sets timings to tight? I'm guessing, but i think there is more to this problem than just "a bug".

Don't get me wrong, jsut looking for more info on the issue so as to be able to properly deal with it....

[tommithy]

Anandtech has an excellent article on TRD and it's settings in relation to straps and FSB on the new Rampage Formula. Although we don't have the MCH settings that are in the new board the read is good.

Check it out here (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=1)

[raidalg]

Anandtech has an excellent article on TRD and it's settings in relation to straps and FSB on the new Rampage Formula. Although we don't have the MCH settings that are in the new board the read is good.

Check it out here (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=1)

What we need is a new bios for our boards that has those settings!!! Think their is any chance of that?

[tommithy]

What we need is a new bios for our boards that has those settings!!! Think their is any chance of that?

Possibly. It was said here that the Rampage bios may work for Maximus but I'm not willing to risk a bricked board to find out. I imagine though that Asus will release a newer version with those settings.

The "Transaction Booster" setting in our bios does adjust the TRD but it also may adjust other settings for the MCH. The only way to find out what it adjusts is to play with it and check the settings with I believe MemSet or Everest. I'll be checking this out tonight if I have time.

[zsero]

Can you get your addon soundcard to work with 3rd party microphones? I cannot get mine, all the mics I tried are mute. The same mics works fine with my laptop.

[Krav]

is it normal as the boot screen comes up and checks hard drives that is says S.M.A.R.T capable something bla bla as its loading, dont remember seeing this before, just wondering

[Krav]

Dont understand this board! i set my cpu voltage to 1.2750 in everest its reporting it as 1.22 voltage. I set my dram voltage to 2.04 and everest reports dimm as 2.14 and dimm vtt as 1.07. Whats going on -_- and what does dimm vtt mean?

[Renegade5399]

At what point do you start ot experience this issue, and how did you resolve it? Cooling NB helped for me...so maybe strap sets timings to tight? I'm guessing, but i think there is more to this problem than just "a bug".

Don't get me wrong, jsut looking for more info on the issue so as to be able to properly deal with it....

It only does it when I have all 4 slots populated. Even at stock, with all 4 DIMM slots filled, it will not boot from just a normal Windows shutdown. Like I said before, if the power is cut or I just do a reboot, there will be no issues. I fold, so my PC is on all the time, so I really haven't found a solution to the issue except for taking 2 sticks out, booting into BIOS, cutting power via PSU switch, put the the sticks back in and powering back on. Boots OK after that.

[Renegade5399]

Dont understand this board! i set my cpu voltage to 1.2750 in everest its reporting it as 1.22 voltage. I set my dram voltage to 2.04 and everest reports dimm as 2.14 and dimm vtt as 1.07. Whats going on -_- and what does dimm vtt mean?

The CPU droop is a known issue. You have to set accordingly and enable Loadline Calibration. It is also known that the DRAM is overvolted by about .1 volts. The vtt is the DDR2 REF voltage. You can leave that alone, it should be half of the actual DDR2 voltage.

[Krav]

Okay thanks for response

[Raver]

Sup all.

Got my Q6600 running at 389X9 for an even 3.5GHz, stable.

I'm a bit worried about the vcore I have to use to get it there, probably due to the high VID of 1.3250v.

I tried lower vcore's but it will lock up on the desktop and reboot or give me a BSOD and reboot.

I can get it to 400x9 for a nice 3.6GHz but temps go too high and it fails prime.

I also tried 438x8 for 3.5GHz but having trouble keeping it stable, NB temp goes over 47 and upon booting it fails the OC with either no display init or just hangs at detram.

I have removed the cooling assembly when I received my Maximus (freezer popped right off) I have applied AS5.

My TRUE and Q6600 are lapped with AS5, also using a push/pull configuration.

I would just like some input on my high vcore and my settings if theres anything I might need to change.

Here are my settings and screen shots of temps below.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 389
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1037
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO (52)
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.54375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.39
DRAM Voltage : 2.08
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.28
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/8340/q6600389x93500jz2.th.jpg (http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=q6600389x93500jz2.jpg)

[crazyea]

Ok guys, new e8400 here. Maximus bios 907. My core temps read 39/57 at idle whether I am at stock or 4ghz +.

Under full load they reach 59/59 max. Im pretty sure on the 903, which my board had prior to the e8400, and when I first put the e8400 in my temps were much lower, in the high 20deg range.

Has anyone else experienced this? Recommended bios for this chip? It's kind of annoying for sure. LOL.

[cadaveca]

I'm running 907, e8400 @ 475x9 for 4275mhz, ram on 5:6 @ 1140mhz, 1.425v, temps don't budge off of 40c, idle or loaded.

Water temp goes up 2c tho...

For those that are having issues @ approx 450FSB....Transaction Booster must be set to disabled, and at least 1, or you'll either not boot(DET DRAM), or have random stability issues.

I said earleir heat was an issue...I was wrong wrong wrong. ;)

[kup]

Hey guys,

Just a small something on the vDroop with this board. When running my old PCP&C 510w TurboCool I'd get a slight vDroop on the vCore, but now I've swapped it out for a ThermalTake ToughPower 850w I actually get a slight overvolt on the vCore. As an example, I used to use 1.525v in the bios for 1.5v stable real. Now the same setting give between 1.52v and 1.528v, fluctuating to latter more.

Anyone else had a similar experience?

[Dostoyevsky77]

Kup: No, I'm at 1.45 BIOS and 1.42 real.

Grnfinger: What is your vCore for 4.3GHz? I'm testing at 4.23, but it seems I need 1.45 vCore for it. It seems high, but temperatures are around 58(c), load. I want to get higher, but I haven't seen many people put that much volts through this thing. Any ideas?

[Grnfinger]

Kup: No, I'm at 1.45 BIOS and 1.42 real.

Grnfinger: What is your vCore for 4.3GHz? I'm testing at 4.23, but it seems I need 1.45 vCore for it. It seems high, but temperatures are around 58(c), load. I want to get higher, but I haven't seen many people put that much volts through this thing. Any ideas?

To avoid the double post here is a link to the other thread I just answerd your question there

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2729108&postcount=5344

[Grnfinger]

Sup all.

Got my Q6600 running at 389X9 for an even 3.5GHz, stable.

I'm a bit worried about the vcore I have to use to get it there, probably due to the high VID of 1.3250v.

I tried lower vcore's but it will lock up on the desktop and reboot or give me a BSOD and reboot.

I can get it to 400x9 for a nice 3.6GHz but temps go too high and it fails prime.

I also tried 438x8 for 3.5GHz but having trouble keeping it stable, NB temp goes over 47 and upon booting it fails the OC with either no display init or just hangs at detram.

I have removed the cooling assembly when I received my Maximus (freezer popped right off) I have applied AS5.

My TRUE and Q6600 are lapped with AS5, also using a push/pull configuration.

I would just like some input on my high vcore and my settings if theres anything I might need to change.

Here are my settings and screen shots of temps below.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 389
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1037
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO (52)
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.54375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.39
DRAM Voltage : 2.08
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.28
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/8340/q6600389x93500jz2.th.jpg (http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=q6600389x93500jz2.jpg)

I would up your NB volts for there looking real low, I need 1.47 on the NB to run 3.6GHz on my quad. Your FSBT is also low imo try 1.40
As for your high vcore I have the same issue high VID of 1.325 so the chip scales rather poorly.
3.4GHz I need 1.43volts on the cpu
3.6GHz I need 1.55volts so as you can see you need alot to go slightly higher

[Dostoyevsky77]

To avoid the double post here is a link to the other thread I just answerd your question there

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2729108&postcount=5344

Hi. I really appreciate your help!

The oddest thing is that I can POST 4.3GHz no problem at vCore 1.3875 or even lower, but Vista won't load without 1.45, minimum. The same is true for faster speeds: low vCore = POST, but no Vista! Incidentally, 1.45 vCore still gives me load temps around 55.

Also, my RAM is weird: it won't POST at 1:1 in either 333 or 400, but it does just fine at the faster 12:10. I'm going to run memtest on the faster speed (probably 1200) tonight.

Thanks again for your help!

[Grnfinger]

Hi. I really appreciate your help!

The oddest thing is that I can POST 4.3GHz no problem at vCore 1.3875 or even lower, but Vista won't load without 1.45, minimum. The same is true for faster speeds: low vCore = POST, but no Vista! Incidentally, 1.45 vCore still gives me load temps around 55.

Also, my RAM is weird: it won't POST at 1:1 in either 333 or 400, but it does just fine at the faster 12:10. I'm going to run memtest on the faster speed (probably 1200) tonight.

Thanks again for your help!

I run Vista also and have no trouble booting with low volts.
with my quad I turned indexing off in vista and it really helped alot
I run my ram as you know on the 333 strap @ 1148MHz
I need dram static to Auto, and trans booster disabled or it will not boot.
setting my CPU PLL to auto ( and watch the actual in bios hardware monitor)
got teh chip stable fast.
If your running 4x1GB sticks you will have to up the NB

[HousERaT]

Any such thing as a working Asus Suite version or fix for the 907 bios yet?

[Stonedrop]

very good mobo , i got stable at 4ghz with this mainboard

[jorgito05]

very good mobo , i got stable at 4ghz with this mainboard

This happend to me one time after playing around with AI Suite; I compleatly uninstalled AI Suite, and this never happend again, scared the s**t out of me.

[binormalkilla]

Anyone running a Q6600 at 3.8 GHz on this board? I'm having a little trouble getting it totally stable it seems.....I thought it was stable, but apparently I never ran it past 30 minutes OCCT blended........my PC reboots after about 45 minutes Prime95 blended.....I've been testing higher VCore, FSBT, NBV, etc.......I dunno.

[kup]

Yup, been running 3.825GHz 9x425, and 3.915GHz 9x435 for a while. Rock solid board now the bios has matured a little.

[Warboy]

Yup, been running 3.825GHz 9x425, and 3.915GHz 9x435 for a while. Rock solid board now the bios has matured a little.

Kup, how? I keep getting random restarts past 9x425.

[kup]

Honestly I couldn't say, I know for one that I got a good Q6600 with a VID of 1.2375v and my ram, Corsair XMS2 6400C4 clocks pretty good too, but I've just always been able to run those clocks.

I can get the occasional restart, but maybe once every few weeks, but I do get them even when clocked lower, so I expect it's just the board bugging or XP playing silly buggers with me.

My Blitz Formula is the same, easily does 425x9 and on a Dual Core so far, out the box (5mins tweaking) does 515MHz FSB!

[Grnfinger]

Honestly I couldn't say, I know for one that I got a good Q6600 with a VID of 1.2375v and my ram, Corsair XMS2 6400C4 clocks pretty good too, but I've just always been able to run those clocks.

I can get the occasional restart, but maybe once every few weeks, but I do get them even when clocked lower, so I expect it's just the board bugging or XP playing silly buggers with me.

My Blitz Formula is the same, easily does 425x9 and on a Dual Core so far, out the box (5mins tweaking) does 515MHz FSB!

Thats what I experienced with this new E8400, I think I have a total of 15-20 mins invested to reach a cool 4.3GHz, my quad however was a real pian in the arse to get it stable beyond 3.6Ghz.
I'm going to shop around for a new Q6600 or Yorkfield ( if I can get the wife over the price tag of a yorkie:D )

[OCam]

First post here, and I think I have gone through the entire thread, but I have my q6600 at 400x9 using Maglins settings on Page 1, 12 hours dual orthos stable.

When I try to goto 411x9 for 3.7ghz I can get into OCCTP and start a stability test, but it reboots my system say 2 minutes into the load phase.

I tried up too 1.45v on the cpu with the same result.

Does any one have an idea where my stability problem lies?
And does anyone have 425x9 or 450x9 settings they would like to share?

@ 1.4v my temps never break 60 on the core and my NB is at 51 load /w 1.55v in everest

[ZenEffect]

has anyone read about the rampage formula? what would keep that bios from working on our boards? anandtech says that they are the same except for the x48, which is a higher binned x38. anyone try this yet?? :shrug:

[Raver]

I would up your NB volts for there looking real low, I need 1.47 on the NB to run 3.6GHz on my quad. Your FSBT is also low imo try 1.40
As for your high vcore I have the same issue high VID of 1.325 so the chip scales rather poorly.
3.4GHz I need 1.43volts on the cpu
3.6GHz I need 1.55volts so as you can see you need alot to go slightly higher

I have bumped up my NB and FSBT voltages a bit.

But now I wanted to see what I can do with the 8 multi so I could keep my memory at 1:1 and maybe lower some timings to get better overall performance.
8X400, boots fine no problems.
8X410, boots fine no problems.
8X420, boots but 2 of 4 cores dissapear, core #3 & #4.
This happens when I go from 411fsb to 412fsb, have I reached this chips max
fsb?

I have tried diffrent voltages but as soon as I reach 411 or 412 and up 2of4 cores dont show, the system still runs on the remaining 2.

I have kept the memory out of the equasion by using a lower divider 1:1, my mem can do DDR2-1000.

I'm trying this 8 multi and hoped I could get to 438X8 to get the same speed as 388X9 I was using before.

I know it's not the board cause I tried it with my E6750 and got to 475X7 with out too much hassle.

Have you seen this before where 2 of 4 cores dont show in either Windows or BIOS?

[Zucker2k]

has anyone read about the rampage formula? what would keep that bios from working on our boards? anandtech says that they are the same except for the x48, which is a higher binned x38. anyone try this yet?? :shrug:

I'm watching the next bios release closely. If it has none of those secondary tweaks for the x48, I'll be sending a FEW e-mails to Asus.

[iadstudio]

I don't know about the emails to Asus, but I'll be watching closely, too. I've maxed my chip out at 9x 410, 8x 460 and 7x 510 (although 500ish the NB was way too hot to be stable) and I'm pretty sure more board latency options would help. It seems that my memory OC is limited by the board latency and there is no real sweet spot with the settings available. Either too loose and or too tight.

[J*Bishop]

Yup, been running 3.825GHz 9x425, and 3.915GHz 9x435 for a while. Rock solid board now the bios has matured a little.

can you post your settings? i haven't updated my bios as everything seems to be running fine.

[Warboy]

I'm watching the next bios release closely. If it has none of those secondary tweaks for the x48, I'll be sending a FEW e-mails to Asus.

Me too, I want the bios features that are in the Rampage bios :mad:

[binormalkilla]

Honestly I couldn't say, I know for one that I got a good Q6600 with a VID of 1.2375v and my ram, Corsair XMS2 6400C4 clocks pretty good too, but I've just always been able to run those clocks.

I can get the occasional restart, but maybe once every few weeks, but I do get them even when clocked lower, so I expect it's just the board bugging or XP playing silly buggers with me.

My Blitz Formula is the same, easily does 425x9 and on a Dual Core so far, out the box (5mins tweaking) does 515MHz FSB!

What memory clocks are you running? I have some strange results when stress testing.........I'm running DDR2-1128 with trans booster disabled relaxed 1, but I NEVER crash or reboot when gaming......

[ZenEffect]

I'm watching the next bios release closely. If it has none of those secondary tweaks for the x48, I'll be sending a FEW e-mails to Asus.

any idea when the next bios is due?

[BulldogPO]

What are those extra optios in Rampage´s bios?

[Warboy]

What are those extra optios in Rampage´s bios?

Go read the review at anandtech (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=1)

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/motherboards/2008/asus-rampage-formula/BIOS_extreme_tweaker.jpg

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/motherboards/2008/asus-rampage-formula/BIOS_mem_2.jpg

[BulldogPO]

tRD thing was pretty interesting.

[Dostoyevsky77]

I run Vista also and have no trouble booting with low volts.
with my quad I turned indexing off in vista and it really helped alot
I run my ram as you know on the 333 strap @ 1148MHz
I need dram static to Auto, and trans booster disabled or it will not boot.
setting my CPU PLL to auto ( and watch the actual in bios hardware monitor)
got teh chip stable fast.
If your running 4x1GB sticks you will have to up the NB

Thanks again for your help!

I've tried those things, but Vista wants the extra vCore! I think it's time to reinstall (I did the MS Config four core tweak on my QX6700, and maybe that messed something up). If no joy after that, I think I'll just have to live with 4.23.

Probably will have to go Yorkfield if that's the case! :)

[Zucker2k]

any idea when the next bios is due?

Wish I did!

[OCam]

hey Binormal, Did you post your settings for 3.8ghz? Im getting close to 3.7 stable but 3.8 is my goal.

thx

[binormalkilla]

hey Binormal, Did you post your settings for 3.8ghz? Im getting close to 3.7 stable but 3.8 is my goal.

thx

Y ea I posted them a few pages back.....

[eSp!s0]

Guys, what`s the deal with LLC?
Read about Anhandtechreview, where they tell, that LLC disabled is better for cpu, exspecially for new 45nm.
LLC disabled is what they recommend, but here we came to "LLC enabled if you OC".
On or off? What do you do?

[CERO]

if u turn it off it u will get massive vdroop under load.

[cadaveca]

Do whatever you feel most comfortable with, just be aware that using LLC can cause issues, and it's said moreso on 45nm, as the working voltage range is much smaller than for 65nm core chips. When it's disabled, bios setting should be the max voltage cpu will get, however, when enabled, generally bios setting is almost the MINIMUM it wil lget...so you'll get spikes much higher than what you set, more prevalent on 4-phase boards that 8-phase.

[outlandos]

I am getting my new system next week. The specs are in my signature.

So far, I have only had DELL computers, so the world of overclocking is fairly new to me.

I have already done a lot of reading, but I still got a few questions regarding the Maximus Formula's BIOS and I hope this is the right place to ask them!

So, here we go:

1. My goal is to realize a 1:1 divider with the memory. As I have 1000MHz memory, this means the maximum FSB will be 500.

Which FSB Strap to Northbridge should I select? 333 or 400? And why?

2. I don't understand the DRAM Command Rate explanation. Auto, 1T or 2T? Which one should I take and why.

3. Ai Clock Twister, same story as above, is 'Strong' the way to go?

4. Transaction Booster, it says it's one of the most important BIOS setting, but why does nearly everyone on this forum has it got Disabled?

5. Raising the FSB sometimes requires raising the CPU Voltage. This I do understand, but when should I raise the CPU PLL Voltage? Why are their two seperate voltage settings and which should I raise when? Same goes with the FSB Termination Voltage, this really confuses me!

6. Then their are all these other Voltage settings, like NB Voltage, SB Voltage and Clock Over-Charging Voltage, we are talking about rocket science here! :confused:

I really hope someone will take the time to answer my questions, it's really appreciated! :up:

[eSp!s0]

Do whatever you feel most comfortable with, just be aware that using LLC can cause issues, and it's said moreso on 45nm, as the working voltage range is much smaller than for 65nm core chips. When it's disabled, bios setting should be the max voltage cpu will get, however, when enabled, generally bios setting is almost the MINIMUM it wil lget...so you'll get spikes much higher than what you set, more prevalent on 4-phase boards that 8-phase.

So we can say (for first post?):
LLC disabled is best.
Only, if the system isn`t stable without LLC (you need more VCore in Bios than LLC enabled, remeber that) LLC should be enabled!
Allright!?

[cadaveca]

Um, that not what I beleive, merely relaying the info. The load transient story is true, I suppose, but there should be components in place that deal with this, namely the capacitors and such on the bottom of the cpu, and in the socket itself.

Of course, it's nigh on impossible to read voltage from this area..voltage is monitored outside this "sphere of influence", IMHO, so the whole story isn't exactly there i think...


SO, ok, you could say the caps in that area have certain limits, and when you breach these limits, problems ensue...ok...I can buy that...But I must wonder where one would get that exact info, and be able to confirm it's truth or falsehood...

[Grnfinger]

I am getting my new system next week. The specs are in my signature.

So far, I have only had DELL computers, so the world of overclocking is fairly new to me.

I have already done a lot of reading, but I still got a few questions regarding the Maximus Formula's BIOS and I hope this is the right place to ask them!

So, here we go:

1. My goal is to realize a 1:1 divider with the memory. As I have 1000MHz memory, this means the maximum FSB will be 500.

Which FSB Strap to Northbridge should I select? 333 or 400? And why?

2. I don't understand the DRAM Command Rate explanation. Auto, 1T or 2T? Which one should I take and why.

3. Ai Clock Twister, same story as above, is 'Strong' the way to go?

4. Transaction Booster, it says it's one of the most important BIOS setting, but why does nearly everyone on this forum has it got Disabled?

5. Raising the FSB sometimes requires raising the CPU Voltage. This I do understand, but when should I raise the CPU PLL Voltage? Why are their two seperate voltage settings and which should I raise when? Same goes with the FSB Termination Voltage, this really confuses me!

6. Then their are all these other Voltage settings, like NB Voltage, SB Voltage and Clock Over-Charging Voltage, we are talking about rocket science here! :confused:

I really hope someone will take the time to answer my questions, it's really appreciated! :up:

Well this is the right place to ask....not sure if I'm the right guy lol
for me the 333 strap is better for bandwidth ( and many may disagree) and I run it when ever possible.

Ai Clock Twister.. I run with it set to strong, after your system is running you can play with all the settings and quickly realize what will do what .
Strong will give better ram bandwidth, medium a little less and light well I think you get the picture.

Transaction Booster is a real pos imo, I run it disabled when ever possible, thats why I like the 333 strap so much.
It basically relaxes timing to you can clock a tad better but unless you fully understand it, its more of a pain then help.

CPU PLL I have had best results on AUTO (monitor it in your bios) when adjusting manually I had a hard time getting my quad core stable, after switching to Auto , stability was quickly achived.

Your NB and SB will have to be adjusted acordingly, my SB as been set at 1.5 and I have never adjusted it, my NB requires only 1.47 for any clock I have tossed at it so far, others can run even lower while I see alot of ppl pumping the volts to there NB. Basically depending on the ram, amount of ram (GB) and OS ( Vista requires more NB volts) you may need less or more NB volts.

My advice is, get your system together and then play around with the settings for a bit and see what does what and how it affects your rig.
After that come here and you will get all the help/advice you need, you wont find any other place with such knowledable and helpful ppl
good luck with you rig:)

[ZenEffect]

imma post my 4ghz settings when i get home tonight. w000 1.225 vid cpu! *after 7 trips to frys and countless hours waiting in the return line*

[Grnfinger]

imma post my 4ghz settings when i get home tonight. w000 1.225 vid cpu! *after 7 trips to frys and countless hours waiting in the return line*

What cpu?

[eSp!s0]

Sorry for my question, but what does "imma" and "w000" mean?

[Grnfinger]

Sorry for my question, but what does "imma" and "w000" mean?

I'll take a guess

"imma" bad grammar for "I'm going to"
"wooo" I think was meant to be "woot"

[eSp!s0]

I'll take a guess

"imma" bad grammar for "I'm going to"
"wooo" I think was meant to be "woot"

Ok, thank you in advance for your help :)
Perhaps you guys try to not to use such bad grammar to avoid that people with worse english, like me, don`t understand what you wrote? :)
Otherwise you have to read my posts. I should be quiet :D

[Zucker2k]

Ok, thank you in advance for your help :)
Perhaps you guys try to not to use such bad grammar to avoid that people with worse english, like me, don`t understand what you wrote? :)
Otherwise you have to read my posts. I should be quiet :D

:ROTF: :up:

[binormalkilla]

It seems that increasing the transbooster relax from 1 to 2 GREATLY increased stability for memory.......testing DDR2-1128 5-5-5-15 in 32M superpi.........stable to 9 minutes so far, when I got rounding errors within 30s at relax 1.
I want to find a good memory setting for high speed on my 2x2Gb kit.....

[FZ1]

It seems that increasing the transbooster relax from 1 to 2 GREATLY increased stability for memory.......testing DDR2-1128 5-5-5-15 in 32M superpi.........stable to 9 minutes so far, when I got rounding errors within 30s at relax 1.
I want to find a good memory setting for high speed on my 2x2Gb kit.....

But it probably put a real dent in your latencies and performance according to Anandtechs latest article. Better stable I guess :)

[tiesum]

Tomorrow I receive my E8400 to replace my E6750. Is it necessary to do a clean Windows-reinstall or can I just pop it in?

[Viss]

Just pop it in that should do.