The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[SpuTnicK]

Recently change my e8400 c1 to q9550 e0 on my maximus formula.
Got 1207 bios now. Is it worth flashing to rampage? If so, what is the best bios version to choose?

[ShArKo]

Well I got the Rampage conversion and I use the 0403 BIOS on my E8400 and it work good...

[Flak]

Can anyone that upgraded to 1403 still access Intel MSM during boot? I upgraded (to see if the new intel msm would increase my SSD raid 0 speed, which it did) but for me the boot process no longer pauses there at all to give you time to do the ctrl + i. I've tried doing ctrl + i right after the bios does the usb init but that didn't work either.

[overclocking101]

when I enable raid on this board i get a freeze during usb detection at post anyone know why this happens????

[ShawnTRD]

when I enable raid on this board i get a freeze during usb detection at post anyone know why this happens????

I had the same problem. I gave up.

[TheMash]

when I enable raid on this board i get a freeze during usb detection at post anyone know why this happens????

Had this problem when I have bought this board, around 2 years ago.
I looked for a solution in all the web, and I didnt find anything.
So I started to do some tries.

And finally I've found the solution by myself (for me worked like this...)

1) Set the hard drives in AHCI mode in the bios.
2) Then enter the AHCI menu
3) Set every hard disk in the menu to "NOT INSTALLED"
3a) Set timeout to "0" (ZERO)
4) Switch back to RAID mode for hard disks
5) Save and reboot

The freezing should disappear :)

Let me know if this worked for you...

[Flak]

The boards default sata detection is 35s. Have you tried lowering it to 0?

I'm not sure why, since for me it notices sata drives before it does the USB stuff. But if I leave the detection at 35s it freezes at the USB detection for almost a min before it continues with post. If I lower sata detection to 10s or less there is no pause anymore.

[osxfr33k]

Will the Maximus Formula conversion to rampage cause any Ill affects over time. I don't really overclock. The reason I converted is because I need a DSDT override in my Mac clone and my friend did the conversion as well and I can share his DSDT.aml file generated from the ACPI tables.

Other than that I don't use any overclocking features.

Does anyone know of the C2/C4 options? That is a feature for the C states and Proper Power Management for the processor. Nothing to do with Speed Step!! The Asus P5Q Pro has C1E and C State Tech that provides that feature. The GigaByte P35 and P45 series have the C1E and C2/C4 options. The Maximus and Rampage only have C1E and not C2/C4 options in the Bios thus no C state script in the SSDT tables can be generated from the ACPI tables.

Is there a Hack to get this option in the Bios?

Last Question about the Conversion. Was the executable file or the other file somehow hacked to allow this BIOS conversion to take place?

[OVERK|LL]

Will the Maximus Formula conversion to rampage cause any Ill affects over time. I don't really overclock. The reason I converted is because I need a DSDT override in my Mac clone and my friend did the conversion as well and I can share his DSDT.aml file generated from the ACPI tables.

Other than that I don't use any overclocking features.

Does anyone know of the C2/C4 options? That is a feature for the C states and Proper Power Management for the processor. Nothing to do with Speed Step!! The Asus P5Q Pro has C1E and C State Tech that provides that feature. The GigaByte P35 and P45 series have the C1E and C2/C4 options. The Maximus and Rampage only have C1E and not C2/C4 options in the Bios thus no C state script in the SSDT tables can be generated from the ACPI tables.

Is there a Hack to get this option in the Bios?

Last Question about the Conversion. Was the executable file or the other file somehow hacked to allow this BIOS conversion to take place?

They are essentially the same board. There is really no difference between the X38 and X48 chipsets. Every other feature on the board is the exact same, which is why the conversion is so easy.

So no, there is no potential damage risk associated with running the Rampage BIOS on the Maximus.

The executable is simply an engineering version of AFUDOS. It allows you to flash BIN files who's ID does not match that of the board. It is not hacked in any way and comes directly from ASUS.

[osxfr33k]

Thanks for the reply!!

[iTravis]

Anyone kindly to share the settings for a QX9650 C0 @4.0Ghz? I just flashed to the Rampage BIOS and it still needs more than 1.4V to get to 4.0Ghz.

[dionysus]

[QUOTE=OLDcomer;4064369]Which revision is you board. Try Rampage bios 0802.

Rev. 1.xx
I can manage 447x8.5 12 hours of prime small fft.
voltage at 1.232v

[overclocking101]

well I have found a way to get a little higher fsb in the bios!!!! I leave the nb,and fsB term voltages on auto and I can get higher!! I set the GTL ref on the CPU and NB manually though. ram slightly overvolts as well on this board, If i set it to 2.20V it real value goes up to 2.35/2.4V

[ShArKo]

Ey guys just 1 cuestion...

How can I do the roll back from Rampage bios tu Maximus Formula bios???

[ShawnTRD]

Ey guys just 1 cuestion...

How can I do the roll back from Rampage bios tu Maximus Formula bios???

I've never rolled back but I would think you could do it the same way you went from MF to Rampage. There is really no benifit to going to MF BIOS. So why do you want to?

[loften]

yeah just read the guide on page 1.. i think there is something with having your bios on default settings before flashing though.. don't flash with oc settings.. if you did you may experience the issues i had. i have flashed back and forth quite a few times.. the very first time i flashed from mf to rf i didn't use the default settings..oops,, it worked but was buggy and i kept loosing usb detection for my mouse and keyboard.. i flashed back to mf on default settings and it worked fine again.. i flashed back to rf on default settings and it worked.. i am again on rf bios with all rf drivers on fresh install.. i don't know if there is a difference in drivers i just wanted to try it..

[ShArKo]

well guys, the thing is I wanted to roll back to Maximus Formula BIOS because the overclock wasn´t stable on the Rampage Formula. But I discovered that my overclock problem is not the mother, the ram or the BIOS. My problem is the CPU. I configured my PC like this to test the max FSB: 470*6 - Vcore: 1.35 - Vdimm: 2.1 - NB Volt: 1.49. I tested the stability with Orthos for more than 7 hours and the system was rock solid :D:D:D:D

So, my problem is my CPU........my 8400 is a shi$·$·.....

Next time I will try to get the max frecuency.

[jdrom]

Well I went from RF0902 to MF1403 today. Flashed it the same way. Worked out fine and I always load the setup defaults before doing any flashing. I also load them after flashing too before doing any setting up.

MF1403 seems better for 45nm quads so far. I can at least get into Windows at 440FSB, something I could never do before. However I've yet to get it LinX stable.

[loften]

e8400,, it took 1.49 to keep my e8500 eo at 4.5.. i started with 1.46 but after a month it needed more.. i over heated and killed 2 sticks of my memory so i backed it down to 4.3 with lower volts and have been there for many months now.. when i get new memory that will do over 1150 i will up it again.. i think i maxed out at 475 or 477x9.5 at those volts with safe temps on water.. i need to dig up my note book to see.. i could never get 500 to even post no matter what bios, cpu or multi.. i think my board is buggy above 475 480..

[ShArKo]

those volt are very high.... with my e8400 I need 1.45 Vcore but the system wasn´t stable......I can ran Orthos and played games, but for example I useed the MSN and the system crash :S
When i get home I will try to get more FSB. but my multi now is 6. I need to try to leave the max frecuency and then search the most suitable multi :D

[loften]

i was getting worried about the volts, it was a pretty new cpu and i have never taken it up that high before.. the ambient temps were up to.. i kept dropping a core in prime 95 blend so i kept going up until it didn't drop a core.. i got it stable here first..
i think the cpu degraded a little or whatever you call it.. i had to go up to 1.49 to stay there..
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=3768861#post3768861

[ColdMist]

I just picked up an Intel X25-M 80GB for Win7 a few weeks ago. If I have the BIOS set to AHCI, it hangs when detecting the drive. If I have it in IDE mode, then it detects it just fine and goes on.

On the ASUS forums, someone mentions it's related to the older Intel matrix drivers built into the BIOS, and a newer one (newer than the one in the 1403 BIOS) will fix it.

Anybody else seen this issue before?

Any suggestions on this? I'd really like to get AHCI working again so I can hot-plug my SATA backup drive!

BIOS: started at 120x and I just flashed to 1403 to see if that helped, but no change.
CPU E8600

[sakis_the_fraud]

Sorry of this posted under wrong thread but i cant seem to locate the info allthough i remember seeing..
I am looking to find info about there the "motherboard temperature sensor" is located.
Any ideas

Thanks

does anyone know where this sensor is located?

[steve30x]

I need your thoughts on this guys. I have this motherboard and about a month ago it failed to POST so I watched the error LCD that camer with this motherboard. It ran through everything (Mem check , GPU check , USB Check) but I think it failed at CPU check because it goes through all the motions but just before the POST screen usualy shows it shows CMOS Error.

I am hoping its just the CPU got fried and that I can just plop another new CPU into the board. I never kept an eye on the Radiator so it got clogged with dust (it was almost layered on it) so I think the CPU overheated and died.

Does anyone else know if this just because the CPU is dead? I am no longer using watercooling and I am back to my old Asus Crosshair with AMD Sthlon X2 6000+. I wanty to go back to a quad core Intel and use my maximus again.

[ColdMist]

I need your thoughts on this guys. I have this motherboard and about a month ago it failed to POST so I watched the error LCD that camer with this motherboard. It ran through everything (Mem check , GPU check , USB Check) but I think it failed at CPU check because it goes through all the motions but just before the POST screen usualy shows it shows CMOS Error.

I am hoping its just the CPU got fried and that I can just plop another new CPU into the board. I never kept an eye on the Radiator so it got clogged with dust (it was almost layered on it) so I think the CPU overheated and died.

Does anyone else know if this just because the CPU is dead? I am no longer using watercooling and I am back to my old Asus Crosshair with AMD Sthlon X2 6000+. I wanty to go back to a quad core Intel and use my maximus again.

Have you tried clearing the CMOS (removing the battery and jumpering the ground pins for a little while)? I've had picky mboards that needed that every once in a while.

If not that, I have seen flaky CPUs (and memory and mboards) cause weird stuff like that. Easiest first: Remove everything you can (ie sound cards, extra RAM modules, etc) and see if you can get it to work bare-bones first.

Oh, and run some kind of hardware monitor, like Speedfan!

[arfett]

Can anyone that upgraded to 1403 still access Intel MSM during boot? I upgraded (to see if the new intel msm would increase my SSD raid 0 speed, which it did) but for me the boot process no longer pauses there at all to give you time to do the ctrl + i. I've tried doing ctrl + i right after the bios does the usb init but that didn't work either.

I upgraded from 0907 to 1403 last night and my RAID-0 still works and I can access the IMSM just fine. I have never done a Rampage conversion though. A lot of :banana::banana::banana::banana: was set to retarded values throughout the BIOS even though I flashed with /pbnc /n which is supposed to clear out CMOS settings so I set it to load the default values then saved and rebooted. Then I changed my BIOS settings again.

[steve30x]

Yup. I removed everything but the CPU , tried different ram , Cleared the Cmos , took the CMOS battery out for a few hours and crossed the cmos pins but it still does the same. I am pretty sure its the CPU is fried though because the Radiator was seriously clogged up and a few months before the system wouldnt POST I saw the CPU overheating.

Just before the motherboard was failing to post I was moving a few GB of files from one HDD to another and noticed it was going extremely slowly (it was usualy fast) so I left it do its thing for two hours. When I came back the monitor went to standby and wouldnt come on again when I moved the mouse so I left it for another while thinking the HDD is making it slow because the HDD light was on still. It didnt come back so I pressed reset on the case but still no joy.

I then reset the bios and no joy , I disconnected everything from the motherboard and no joy , I then took the Battery out and crossed the reset CMOS pins and left it overnight but still no go and I then tried two other types of ram I have (low voltage) to see if the helped but still nothing. So I watched the LCD to see what it does and just before the POST screen (INIT CPU I think) it shows CMOS error.

Could somebody post what process the LCD goes through before the POST screen please just so I can confirm its the CPU or maybe the motherboard. I am hoping the motherboard is ok because I am hoping to get an Intel Q9650 for this motherboard and leave it at 3ghz.

Also I am using all other hardware (Ram , HDD's , PSU and GPU etc) that I was using with the Maximus in this Crosshair motherboard with no problem , but I am using air cooling now. So its none of the attached hardware was the problem.

[ColdMist]

When I set the BIOS to RAID (on 1403), I saw the Ctrl-i prompt for like 0.5 seconds. I saw it, but it went by really quick.

[ColdMist]

I just picked up an Intel X25-M 80GB for Win7 a few weeks ago. If I have the BIOS set to AHCI, it hangs when detecting the drive. If I have it in IDE mode, then it detects it just fine and goes on.

On the ASUS forums, someone mentions it's related to the older Intel matrix drivers built into the BIOS, and a newer one (newer than the one in the 1403 BIOS, v8.6xxx or something like that) will fix it.

Anybody else seen this issue before?

Any suggestions on this? I'd really like to get AHCI working again so I can hot-plug my SATA backup drive!

BIOS: started at 120x and I just flashed to 1403 to see if that helped, but no change.
CPU E8600

Any help with this one? Please?

[arfett]

Hey guys...

I've run into a rather serious problem since going to the 1403 BIOS. I can not change my FSB. After every boot my FSB is 266mhz. It doesn't matter if I set everything to auto or try to use the built in overclocking settings it is always default after I save and exit. Anyone else having this problem or know what it could be?

EDIT - I seem to have fixed it. I flashed again with the built-in flashing utility and it still wasn't working and then I flashed using "AFU236U.exe /i1403.ROM /pbnc /n" like I did the first time and now I can overclock again and I can still access the IMSM.

My IMSM version shows up as 8.7.0.1007 while booting. Is that what it's supposed to show with the 1403 BIOS?

[ShawnTRD]

I see there hasn't been any updates to the RF BIOS in some time. But that there are newer MF BIOS. Are the RF still the best BIOS for the MF? Also whats the best way to clean the CMOS? I'm seeing some issues and I've heard people say jump the CMOS pins and pull the battery for a couple hours. Not sure that MF has CMOS pins because of the 2 buttons.

[Larvitar]

I see there hasn't been any updates to the RF BIOS in some time. But that there are newer MF BIOS. Are the RF still the best BIOS for the MF? Also whats the best way to clean the CMOS? I'm seeing some issues and I've heard people say jump the CMOS pins and pull the battery for a couple hours. Not sure that MF has CMOS pins because of the 2 buttons.

You do not need to use only the BIOS that are available at the beginning of this topic. You can also use the official BIOS for the Asus Rampage Formula available on her website. I'm using the 0902 version of Rampage P5E without problems. This version already has the settings of CPU and NB skew, which did not exist in the latest version available here at XS.

Proof:
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/2020/p5erampagebios0902.jpg

If you want to downgrade the BIOS Maximus Formula, the procedure is the same, using the AFUDOS ES. I did it here, to use the P5E BIOS 1200.

Good luck on your OC!

[Talonman]

Wow... MF is up to BIOS 1403 put out 9/22/2009?

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/

Any final verdict on that?

I can't believe Grnfinger is gone...

Such a loss.

[Expat GriZ]

I can't believe Grnfinger is gone...

Such a loss.

+1 to that...Don't know what happened but his informative posts and helpfullness was greatly appreciated as this was my first board that I tried to OC and ended up getting me hooked. :D

So GF, if you read this, HAPPY NEW YEAR to you and your family & all the posts, suggestions & settings help will not be forgotten.:up:

[Hockster]

Banned? WTF? This place really is skidding downhill fast.

[OVERK|LL]

Banned? WTF? This place really is skidding downhill fast.


Indeed. He helped me out A LOT when I first joined. :(

[MaxMax77]

Hi, i have a severe problem: i would like to backflash to my original P5e deluxe bios (now i have a rampage formula bios crossflashed), but every software afudos229es, afudos236es, and also asus update v6 and v7 do not want to flash back "ERROR: Rom file boot block is not valid". any ideas?
thanks in advance

[kup]

Are you using the /pbnc and /n switches?

[MaxMax77]

yes, i did, when i do not use /pbnc /n switch i get an different error: ROM file ROMID is not compatible with existing BIOS ROMID.
and when i use like explained here in this thread (afudos /i<biosfile.rom> /pbnc /n) i get ERROR: Rom file boot block is not valid

[NBK]

Hi all,

What is the IMSM [Intel Matrix Storage Manager] Option ROM in Maximus Formula BIOS 1403?

Thanks
NBK

[clip]

Any help with this one? Please?

I noticed this on a Vista\Win 7 dual boot, win 7 no workie with AHCI

must be just some older bioses :/

to be clear, this was a Dell machine not Rampage ;)

[Larvitar]

Hi all,

What is the IMSM [Intel Matrix Storage Manager] Option ROM in Maximus Formula BIOS 1403?

Thanks
NBK

I guess that activates the full support Matrix Storage Manager. Strange ... Here Rampage 0902 BIOS has nothing similar.

[The Coolest]

Has anybody had trouble running ATi cards on this boards?
I've been running 8800 ultra fine for a couple of years, but just bought a HD5450 and I get weird issues.
The PC hangs or completely shuts down while booting up, or a few minutes after that.
It's not an OS/Driver issue, since it happens in Windows Setup and also while running memtest.
I've checked out PSU, RAM issues, BIOS settings - tried to update to 1403 and clear CMOS several times, tried the second PCI-E slot.
Tried running without any drives connected (except a DVD to boot).
The same issue occurs when I install an old x800xl. Both ATi cards run great in my second PC (in sig).
Anybody has any tips?

[ShawnTRD]

Format and start from scratch.


Has anybody had trouble running ATi cards on this boards?
I've been running 8800 ultra fine for a couple of years, but just bought a HD5450 and I get weird issues.
The PC hangs or completely shuts down while booting up, or a few minutes after that.
It's not an OS/Driver issue, since it happens in Windows Setup and also while running memtest.
I've checked out PSU, RAM issues, BIOS settings - tried to update to 1403 and clear CMOS several times, tried the second PCI-E slot.
Tried running without any drives connected (except a DVD to boot).
The same issue occurs when I install an old x800xl. Both ATi cards run great in my second PC (in sig).
Anybody has any tips?

[kwalker]

I would stick the 8800 ultra back in and uninstall the drivers then use a driver cleaner to remove all traces of the previous drivers then shut down and install the ati card.
you can use driver sweeper found here
http://downloads.guru3d.com/Driver-Sweeper-beta-2.0.0-download-2186.html#download

[The Coolest]

As I said, the shutdowns also occur when running memtest, or booting from a liveCD. This is not a software issue.

[ShawnTRD]

PSU: Enermax Liberty 500W

I think it's time to upgrade.

[kwalker]

As I said, the shutdowns also occur when running memtest, or booting from a liveCD. This is not a software issue.
I scanned your post and read right past that but aside from memtest you still have a boot sector that windows writes to and that would still be driver related issue unless the bios wont support the card and the 8800 works fine.
if memtest reboots the computer then hardware is at fault
If the 8800 still works in the maximus I'd say ditch the hd5450 because aside from directX11 the 8800 ultra oc kills the 5450 (isn't that a 64 bit card?)

[The Coolest]

Well, I disconnected all hard drives and it still happens.
I did find a bad memory stick, but I have 8 gigs, with 4GB of the good ram it still happened. I also tested it with the Corsair set from the second system with the same results.
The problem is strange and hard to describe in writing, but what happens in most cases is that the machine will freeze, then it completely shuts down - powers off. Then it powers back on, without POST and repeats the cycle until I cut power to the PSU.
To the PSU comment, I tried a PSU from the other system (which powers it completely fine), with the HD5450 of course, and had the exact same problem.
The 8800 Ultra does work fine, but I don't play games anymore and the 8800 is a power guzzler and doesn't support DXVA. I decided to get a new low power card that could play any media content like blue-ray and bitstream all of the new audio formats.
The weird thing is that the same problem exists with an old card, the x800xl. My assumption right now is board problem, but I hear of this PCI-E 2.0 bug that some of the ASUS boards have, I wonder if this could be the issue here or I may just need to RMA this board...

[kwalker]

what bios are you using.
the pci express bug would effect any card you put in the slot or only the second slot would boot.
the only thing I remember funky about this board is the hd 4870 crossfire wouldnt work and a bios revision fixed that.

[The Coolest]

I'm using the latest bios, 1403.

[Cleatus]

Well, I disconnected all hard drives and it still happens.
I did find a bad memory stick, but I have 8 gigs, with 4GB of the good ram it still happened. I also tested it with the Corsair set from the second system with the same results.
The problem is strange and hard to describe in writing, but what happens in most cases is that the machine will freeze, then it completely shuts down - powers off. Then it powers back on, without POST and repeats the cycle until I cut power to the PSU.
To the PSU comment, I tried a PSU from the other system (which powers it completely fine), with the HD5450 of course, and had the exact same problem.
The 8800 Ultra does work fine, but I don't play games anymore and the 8800 is a power guzzler and doesn't support DXVA. I decided to get a new low power card that could play any media content like blue-ray and bitstream all of the new audio formats.
The weird thing is that the same problem exists with an old card, the x800xl. My assumption right now is board problem, but I hear of this PCI-E 2.0 bug that some of the ASUS boards have, I wonder if this could be the issue here or I may just need to RMA this board...

I have ran ATI cards and Nvidia cards on this board runing both Maximus bios and Rampage...

If you set PCI-e to 105 will the problem settle down?
I ran a 3870X2 and experienced this problem, setting PCIE to 105 resolved the issue and I gained a few extra points in 3DMark, runing my 4870X2 I never had the issue

Board is fussy for sure and I found the later bios's were not very stable nor offered anything 802 is still thebest bios to date imo in terms of stability and bandwidth, flashing to Rampage is a benefit better memory options and better latancy, will it void your warranty, doubtfull as I have RMA'd 2 board flashed to Rampage bios and never had an issue with Asus about it



Wow... MF is up to BIOS 1403 put out 9/22/2009?

ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/

Any final verdict on that?

I can't believe Grnfinger is gone...

Such a loss.



+1 to that...Don't know what happened but his informative posts and helpfullness was greatly appreciated as this was my first board that I tried to OC and ended up getting me hooked. :D

So GF, if you read this, HAPPY NEW YEAR to you and your family & all the posts, suggestions & settings help will not be forgotten.:up:



Banned? WTF? This place really is skidding downhill fast.



Indeed. He helped me out A LOT when I first joined. :(

Very kind words guys, I know Grnfinger very well and will pass on the message to him... I know it will mean alot to him

[The Coolest]

I have ran ATI cards and Nvidia cards on this board runing both Maximus bios and Rampage...

If you set PCI-e to 105 will the problem settle down?
I ran a 3870X2 and experienced this problem, setting PCIE to 105 resolved the issue and I gained a few extra points in 3DMark, runing my 4870X2 I never had the issue

Board is fussy for sure and I found the later bios's were not very stable nor offered anything 802 is still thebest bios to date imo in terms of stability and bandwidth, flashing to Rampage is a benefit better memory options and better latancy, will it void your warranty, doubtfull as I have RMA'd 2 board flashed to Rampage bios and never had an issue with Asus about it

Thanks for the input, I'll try the PCI-E setting tomorrow or the day after.

[The Coolest]

Just tried 105MHz, but it wouldn't even POST.

[Cleatus]

will the nvidia card post with PCIE set to 105?

a quick check on my setting I have PCIE set to 110 with 450FSB
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.35
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X

[ShawnTRD]

Tried the ATI Card in another rig?

[The Coolest]

@ Cleatus
Yes, put the nVidia card back in and got an instant POST.

@ ShawnTRD
Of course. In my P5B, works perfectly fine.

[deepcover]

I just recently installed an ati 5870 and started experiencing crashes on bios 0907. I was overclocked to 3.85 with an E8400. I flashed to the latest, 1403, and now I can't get a decent overclock. My old settings definitely won't even post. Has anyone had any luck with 1403?

[SUBOBO]

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8219/qhyperpi32.png (http://img690.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=qhyperpi32.png)

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Setting : 8.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
FSB Frequency : 467
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1122 MHz.
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CMD Skew on channel A : Auto
DRAM CMD Skew on channel B : Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on channel A : Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on channel B : Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# PRE Time : 5
RAS# ACT Time : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
REF Cycle Time : 40
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 13
Read to PRE Delay : 4
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 4
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 4


DRAM Static Read Control: Enable
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Command Performance level : 08
PULL-In of CHA PHA 1 - PH 5 : Disable
PULL-In of CHA PHB 1 - PH 5 : Disable

CPU Voltage : 1.35625 V
CPU PLL Voltage :1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.37
DRAM Voltage : 2.22
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.36
South Bridge Voltage :1.10
SB 1.5V Voltage :1.55
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Controller Voltage REF : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF

CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt

Voltiminder LED : Disable

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled


Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : 8.5
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

P5E @ RAMPAGE FORMULA Bios 0701
CPU Q9550
RAM KINGSTON VALUE DDR2-533 (MICRON D9GMH)1GX4
POWER TT 850 WATTS
VGA RADEON 5850 & NVIDIA 980GT

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7185/validate.png (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1214590)

[Cleatus]

I just recently installed an ati 5870 and started experiencing crashes on bios 0907. I was overclocked to 3.85 with an E8400. I flashed to the latest, 1403, and now I can't get a decent overclock. My old settings definitely won't even post. Has anyone had any luck with 1403?

I didnt like 1403

[SUBOBO]

http://www.uppicweb.com/x/i/il/1cpuz.png

http://www.uppicweb.com/x/i/iu/everest.png

Stabilty Test hyper pi 2 Heads
http://www.uppicweb.com/x/i/iy/hyperpi1and2.png

Config in BIOS

1.http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8171/51423008.png
2.http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8431/73501832.png
3.http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8108/13915379.png
4.http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1363/49846466.png
5.http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8361/55360073.png
6.http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4048/65516016.png
7.http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/952/71692658.png
8.http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/725/15101301.png
9.http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/7961/86052087.png



http://www.uppicweb.com/x/i/iw/validate.png (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1174913)http://www.uppicweb.com/x/i/ip/2temp.png



http://www.uppicweb.com/x/i/io/2hyperpi1and2.png

[Cleatus]

P5E always clocked dualies high thats a nice low volt chip tho :up:

[SUBOBO]

http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/8553/q9550linx40.png

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/5893/q9550p5ephysx40clockvga.png

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3241/hpi20100531103212.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3941/2validate.png (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1216202)

[Cleatus]

Ok I'll play :D

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/stable_4400.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4500_keep.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/TEST4_505.png

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/3800.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/500fsbquad.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/9550_1.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/40-2.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/6700.png

[SUBOBO]

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6500/linxq9550485x8541229.jpg

[Jodiuh]

the pci express bug would effect any card you put in the slot or only the second slot would boot
This?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jodiuh/Asus%20Maximus/pcie11.jpg

ATI @ pcie 2.0
NV @ pcie
I noticed in your screenies, the GPU-Z shots for Nvidia and ATI differ. The ATI lists pcie 2.0 right in the picture. Is this an Nvidia thing?

[Cleatus]

Both ATI and Nvidia were affected with the PCIE bug 8800GT's and 1950's

The Asus P5B series were bad for the bug and some Gigbyte P35/DS series
Setting PCIE Frequency in the bios to 105 or higher and Disable "PEG Force X1 seems to resolve the issue for most

[ZenEffect]

those screen shots look awfully familiar. like they were grnfingers.

[Kwayzee]

I keep getting an error every time I try to flash from the p5e to rampage formula 0219.

The error says there's an incompatible rom. I'm using the command afudos /irf0219.rom /pbnc /n

all in one string.. am i doing something wrong?

[Cleatus]

your using the correct AFUDOS version?

[Jodiuh]

Ok, I'm getting a little frustrated. Does BIOS 1403 have some sort of an issue going over 425FSB on quads? I have increased vcore to 1.375, fsbvtt to 1.35, nb to 1.4, but I cannot get past 425 stable. Would flashing to the Rampage help?

Also, I think I used too much paste cause I'm loading @ 57C w/ Prime blend on a lapped TRUE w/ a 1200RPM fan in 25C ambient. Vcore's showing up as 1.176 in CPU-Z during load. It should be like 47C, no?

Thanks!

[Commander_HK47]

Hey all, been awhile since i posted last.

Still trying to take my q9650 as high as i can with this board.

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No longer applicable:
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I can do 400*9 for 3.6Ghz no problem, but that isn't very impressive... I would like to take it to 450*9.

Currently i can take the FSB as high as 430*9 for 3.88Ghz, pass memtest + all day long but can not boot into windows. I can boot into windows at 420*9 though.

What if any thing can be done to get t his 45nm quad to clock higher?
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After stumbling across some information form here:http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/468280-what-exactly-cpu-skew.html starting at post #6

I am now able to get 430*9 intel burn test stable by delaying the cpu skew by 200 picoseconds. I am also able to Com Post, and load int a windows 7 OS(all be not stable at all once in, if i get in) at my goal of 450x9. I will need to adjust settings further to see if i can get it stable, but will have to go to liquid cooling as the required voltage for a number of parts is becoming to high for air.

If any one that still actively uses this board with a 45nm quad has any advice please do share, Thanks.

[loften]

i do not play with mine much anymore.. i removed the water for my i5 750, installed decent air, some ddr2 1200 memory, put it at 4.0 and gave it to my son to mess with..

[NBK]

Hi,

I just installed Rampage Formula BIOS 1001 on my Maximus Formula. Is there anything else i need to do?



My Rampage Formula BIOS Settings




Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.0
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066 MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge :
RAS# PRE Time : 5
RAS# Activate Time : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 13
Write to Write Delay (D) : 4
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 4
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 4

DRAM Static Read Control: Enable
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Command Performance Level : 08
CPU Voltage : 1.356250
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.37
DRAM Voltage : 2.04
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.36
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.55

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Auto

[Commander_HK47]

Drop your Performance level down to 5, lower is better. You will see a nice performance increase with memory transfer speeds.

You may need to raise the north bridge voltage if your system isn't stable at PL5, but that is normal.

Just run a loop or too in memtest + and then a 20 loop on intel burn test or the like. That will tell you if you need to rash the NB voltage any.

BTW, what cooling do you have on that processor of yours?

[NBK]

Drop your Performance level down to 5, lower is better. You will see a nice performance increase with memory transfer speeds.

You may need to raise the north bridge voltage if your system isn't stable at PL5, but that is normal.

Just run a loop or too in memtest + and then a 20 loop on intel burn test or the like. That will tell you if you need to rash the NB voltage any.

BTW, what cooling do you have on that processor of yours?



I am using a HSF, Zalman 9700 LED, on my E8400.

[NBK]

Will Prime95 do as a stress test??

[ShawnTRD]

yes

[NBK]

How do these look?

NBK

[Commander_HK47]

While Lin-pack does cause your cpu run much hotter during stress testing, the trade off is that it will tell you far sooner if your system is stable. Minutes vs up to hours that it would take with Prime 95.

I don't have first hand knowledge with the 45nm C2D, but 1.3v+ seems high for 3.6 with your stated cpu.


Did you adjust your performance level down to 5 instead of 8 like i suggested for that boost in memory performance?

[NBK]

While Lin-pack does cause your cpu run much hotter during stress testing, the trade off is that it will tell you far sooner if your system is stable. Minutes vs up to hours that it would take with Prime 95.

I don't have first hand knowledge with the 45nm C2D, but 1.3v+ seems high for 3.6 with your stated cpu.


Did you adjust your performance level down to 5 instead of 8 like i suggested for that boost in memory performance?

I ran Prime95 w/o issue for at least 8hrs [I do not know what happened to screen shot].

I will find out the appropriate voltage from Intel.

I will try PL 5 again, but it would not POST...

NBK

[NBK]

Intel voltage range for E8400 0.8500V-1.3625V from their website.

I will give them a call too.

NBK

[NBK]

Hi,

Is there anyway not to overclock your RAM when you overclock your processor?

NBK

[NBK]

Here are some more screen shots.

NBK

[NBK]

Here it is! I hope...

[NBK]

:confused:If i set Performance Level 5, i get an error message.
Overclocking FAiled! Please enter setup to reconfigure your system.

[NBK]

If i set Performance Level to 6, i get various BSoDs. How do you get it to 5?

NBK

[ShawnTRD]

I'm running at 6. But last I seen your specs your NB Voltage seemed low.

I'm running a Q6700
Everest Report on my system.

Temperatures
Motherboard 31 °C (88 °F)
CPU 23 °C (73 °F)
CPU #1 27 °C (81 °F)
CPU #1 27 °C (81 °F)
CPU #1 21 °C (70 °F)
CPU #1 22 °C (72 °F)
North Bridge 40 °C (104 °F)
South Bridge 38 °C (100 °F)
GPU Diode 38 °C (100 °F)
SAMSUNG HD103UJ 27 °C (81 °F)
WDC WD2000JS-60NCB1 38 °C (100 °F)
WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 56 °C (133 °F)


Voltage Values
CPU Core 1.30 V
FSB VTT 1.33 V
North Bridge Core 1.42 V
South Bridge Core 1.07 V
South Bridge PLL 1.54 V
DIMM 2.10 V
DIMM VTT 1.04 V

[ShawnTRD]

Also I have a small 60mm fan under my sound card blowing on the NB to hell keep it cool.

[NBK]

I'm running at 6. But last I seen your specs your NB Voltage seemed low.

I'm running a Q6700
Everest Report on my system.

Temperatures
Motherboard 31 °C (88 °F)
CPU 23 °C (73 °F)
CPU #1 27 °C (81 °F)
CPU #1 27 °C (81 °F)
CPU #1 21 °C (70 °F)
CPU #1 22 °C (72 °F)
North Bridge 40 °C (104 °F)
South Bridge 38 °C (100 °F)
GPU Diode 38 °C (100 °F)
SAMSUNG HD103UJ 27 °C (81 °F)
WDC WD2000JS-60NCB1 38 °C (100 °F)
WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 56 °C (133 °F)


Voltage Values
CPU Core 1.30 V
FSB VTT 1.33 V
North Bridge Core 1.42 V
South Bridge Core 1.07 V
South Bridge PLL 1.54 V
DIMM 2.10 V
DIMM VTT 1.04 V

Hi ShawnTRD,

I upped the North Bridge Voltage to 1.49V and i can now run Command Performance Level of 6. Cannot do 5 yet or at all...

Other specs that i changed:
CPU Voltage 1.28125V
DRAM Voltage 2.00V
DRAM Frequency DDR2-961[I would like for it to stay at 1066]

Thanks
NBK

[NBK]

I wonder what failed my RAM???

CPU temps did not go over 58C!

[Aug 19 19:10] Work thread starting
[Aug 19 19:10] Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer.
[Aug 19 19:10] Please read stress.txt. Choose Test/Stop to end this test.
[Aug 19 19:10] Test 1, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922945 using FFT length 1024K.
[Aug 19 19:12] Test 2, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19922943 using FFT length 1024K.
[Aug 19 19:13] Test 3, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19374367 using FFT length 1024K.
[Aug 19 19:15] Test 4, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M19174369 using FFT length 1024K.
[Aug 19 19:16] Test 5, 4000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M18874369 using FFT length 1024K.
[Aug 19 19:16] FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4
[Aug 19 19:16] Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
[Aug 19 19:16] Torture Test ran 5 minutes - 1 errors, 0 warnings.
[Aug 19 19:16] Work thread stopped.

[ShawnTRD]

I wouldn't worry to much about Command Performance Level below 7. You'll get more out of a higher FSB. Go back to Command Performance Level of 7 or 8 and lower you DRAM Frequency so that you don't go past 1066. If you have the same G.Skill I do (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166) no one gets them much past 1066. See if you can get your self to 450 x 9. You also using memtest86? http://www.memtest.org/

[NBK]

I wouldn't worry to much about Command Performance Level below 7. You'll get more out of a higher FSB. Go back to Command Performance Level of 7 or 8 and lower you DRAM Frequency so that you don't go past 1066. If you have the same G.Skill I do (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166) no one gets them much past 1066. See if you can get your self to 450 x 9. You also using memtest86? http://www.memtest.org/

Hi ShawnTRD,

I have moved the Command Performance Level back to 7.

We have the same G.Skill RAM. The DRAM Frequency has always been set to DDR2-961. Is there anyway i can get DDR2-1066 back?

I will run Prime95 overnight. I will run memtest86 in the morning.

Thanks
NBK

[NBK]

Hi,

Will memtest check 2 dimms at a time or do i need to take one out?

thanks
NBK

[NBK]

Hi,

I ran Prime95 for several hours without error...

NBK

[ShawnTRD]

Hi ShawnTRD,

I have moved the Command Performance Level back to 7.

We have the same G.Skill RAM. The DRAM Frequency has always been set to DDR2-961. Is there anyway i can get DDR2-1066 back?

I will run Prime95 overnight. I will run memtest86 in the morning.

Thanks
NBK

What are your current settings?


Hi,

Will memtest check 2 dimms at a time or do i need to take one out?

thanks
NBK

It test all sticks installed. If you get a error then try one at a time to see if one is bad.

[NBK]

memtest+ 4.10 found no errors

My Rampage Formula BIOS 1001 Settings




Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.0
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-961 MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge :
RAS# PRE Time : 5
RAS# Activate Time : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 13
Write to Write Delay (D) : 4
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 4
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 4

DRAM Static Read Control: Enable
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Command Performance Level : 07
CPU Voltage : 1.28125
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.36
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.55

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Auto

[ShawnTRD]

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.0
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333 (400 will give you the 1066 or just keep boosting the FSB Frequency the CPU should be able to do it)
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-961 MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge :
RAS# PRE Time : 5
RAS# Activate Time : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 13
Write to Write Delay (D) : 4
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 4
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 4

DRAM Static Read Control: Enable
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Command Performance Level : 07
CPU Voltage : 1.28125
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.36
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.55

[NBK]

Also I have a small 60mm fan under my sound card blowing on the NB to hell keep it cool.

Hi,

Where did you get this small 60mm fan? I need something for my SouthBridge that will fit under my long video card.

I am using an 'Antec Spot Cool System Cooler' over the NorthBridge.

I tried 450 FSB and it would error out...overclocking failed...

Thanks,
NBK

[NBK]

Hi all,

Is there a reliable way to monitor NorthBridge and SouthBridge temperatures in Windows XP SP3? ASUS probe II just does not work...

thanks,
NBK

[ShawnTRD]

Hi,

Where did you get this small 60mm fan? I need something for my SouthBridge that will fit under my long video card.

I am using an 'Antec Spot Cool System Cooler' over the NorthBridge.

I tried 450 FSB and it would error out...overclocking failed...

Thanks,
NBK

The 60mm fan was off a cheap Antec CPU Cooler. The Spot Cool would help also. I don't think the move much air though. You could try something like this. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835221023

" in no time the E8400 chip had passed 3.61GHz, then 3.84GHz. At 4.02GHz (445MHz FSB) the chip required a voltage boost to 1.5V in order to load Windows Vista successfully."
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2394&page=3


Hi all,

Is there a reliable way to monitor NorthBridge and SouthBridge temperatures in Windows XP SP3? ASUS probe II just does not work...

thanks,
NBK

EVEREST http://www.lavalys.com/

[NBK]

The 60mm fan was off a cheap Antec CPU Cooler. The Spot Cool would help also. I don't think the move much air though. You could try something like this. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835221023

" in no time the E8400 chip had passed 3.61GHz, then 3.84GHz. At 4.02GHz (445MHz FSB) the chip required a voltage boost to 1.5V in order to load Windows Vista successfully."
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2394&page=3

EVEREST http://www.lavalys.com/

I need a longer Lian-Li case for mine is cramped. I will measure the space btwn my video card and the SouthBridge...

I am still looking for NB and SB temps in Everest Ultimate.

Will running an E8400 at 1.5v damage it in the long run?

[ShawnTRD]

1.5 is higher then I would want to go. When I had a E8400 I think my max was 3.6ish

[NBK]

Hi,

The Antec Spot Cool knocked 5C to 6C degrees off my NB and may have cooled my SB a couple of degrees. Now, both my NB and SB stay under 50C.

I actually posted at 3.97GHz, but could not POST at 4GHz+.

I will probably stay at 3.61GHz until i can buy a Q9650!

NBK

[ShawnTRD]

Q9650 have been know to not live up to there ability on this board. Still a great upgrade from E8400 and one I want to do with my Q6700.

Sitting just surfing the internet I'm getting these temps.

Temperatures
Motherboard 30 °C (86 °F)
CPU 19 °C (66 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 23 °C (73 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 23 °C (73 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 17 °C (63 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 22 °C (72 °F)
North Bridge 39 °C (102 °F)
South Bridge 38 °C (100 °F)
GPU Diode 36 °C (97 °F)
SAMSUNG HD103UJ 26 °C (79 °F)
WDC WD2000JS-60NCB1 34 °C (93 °F)
WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 50 °C (122 °F)
.
.
Then just ran Prime95 for 13 minutes.

Temperatures
Motherboard 31 °C (88 °F)
CPU 40 °C (104 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 46 °C (115 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 45 °C (113 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 40 °C (104 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 41 °C (106 °F)
North Bridge 44 °C (111 °F)
South Bridge 40 °C (104 °F)
GPU Diode 38 °C (100 °F)
SAMSUNG HD103UJ 27 °C (81 °F)
WDC WD2000JS-60NCB1 34 °C (93 °F)
WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 50 °C (122 °F)

[NBK]

Q9650 have been know to not live up to there ability on this board. Still a great upgrade from E8400 and one I want to do with my Q6700.

Sitting just surfing the internet I'm getting these temps.

Temperatures
Motherboard 30 °C (86 °F)
CPU 19 °C (66 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 23 °C (73 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 23 °C (73 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 17 °C (63 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 22 °C (72 °F)
North Bridge 39 °C (102 °F)
South Bridge 38 °C (100 °F)
GPU Diode 36 °C (97 °F)
SAMSUNG HD103UJ 26 °C (79 °F)
WDC WD2000JS-60NCB1 34 °C (93 °F)
WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 50 °C (122 °F)
.
.
Then just ran Prime95 for 13 minutes.

Temperatures
Motherboard 31 °C (88 °F)
CPU 40 °C (104 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 46 °C (115 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 45 °C (113 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 40 °C (104 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 41 °C (106 °F)
North Bridge 44 °C (111 °F)
South Bridge 40 °C (104 °F)
GPU Diode 38 °C (100 °F)
SAMSUNG HD103UJ 27 °C (81 °F)
WDC WD2000JS-60NCB1 34 °C (93 °F)
WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 50 °C (122 °F)

Are you using water cooling or nitrogen?

[ShawnTRD]

hahaha


Air

[NBK]

hahaha


Air

What kind of 'air'? I have never seen 40C on my E8400 despite my all-copper Zalman HSF....

[ShawnTRD]

CPU has Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme with a 120mm fan http://www.xoxide.com/thermalright-ultra120-extreme.html

What temps are you getting on your E8400? I thought I remember then staying really cool.

[NBK]

Temperatures while surfing the internet

Temperatures:
Motherboard 40 °C (104 °F)
CPU 39 °C (102 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 50 °C (122 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 49 °C (120 °F)
GPU 59 °C (138 °F)
GPU Memory 50 °C (122 °F)
GPU Ambient 44 °C (111 °F)
WDC WD2500YS-01SHB1 34 °C (93 °F)
WDC WD5001ABYS-01YNA0 35 °C (95 °F)
WDC WD7500AAKS-00RBA0 37 °C (99 °F)

[ShawnTRD]

Motherboard 40 °C (104 °F) ???

How hot is it in the room your in? Whats your case fan setup for air flow?

[NBK]

Motherboard 40 °C (104 °F) ???

How hot is it in the room your in? Whats your case fan setup for air flow?

Room temperature is around 72F.

My Lian-Li case has four case fans: A blowhole at the top, a fan in the front, a fan blowing air out the side and a rear fan. The PSU has one fan blowing out.

My Case is cramped. I have been thinking about buying an extended ATX Lian-Li case.

[NBK]

Temperatures under load [Prime95 for 20 minutes].

Temperatures:
Motherboard 43 °C (109 °F)
CPU 55 °C (131 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 65 °C (149 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 63 °C (145 °F)
GPU 61 °C (142 °F)
GPU Memory 53 °C (127 °F)
GPU Ambient 46 °C (115 °F)
WDC WD2500YS-01SHB1 35 °C (95 °F)
WDC WD5001ABYS-01YNA0 35 °C (95 °F)
WDC WD7500AAKS-00RBA0 37 °C (99 °F)

[NBK]

Motherboard 40 °C (104 °F) ???

How hot is it in the room your in? Whats your case fan setup for air flow?

Remember i am running an E8400 @3.61GHz! Come to think of it, the temps were not so good when i was not overclocking!

NBK

[ShawnTRD]

Room temperature is around 72F.

My Lian-Li case has four case fans: A blowhole at the top, a fan in the front, a fan blowing air out the side and a rear fan. The PSU has one fan blowing out.

My Case is cramped. I have been thinking about buying an extended ATX Lian-Li case.

I would set it up so that air is going in through the FRONT and SIDE, and out through the BACK and TOP.

[NBK]

I would set it up so that air is going in through the FRONT and SIDE, and out through the BACK and TOP.

Thanks for responding,

It seems to be set-up that way, except the rear fan is drawing in air and the side is blowing it out! I will work on this...

I also have an 'Antec Spot Cool' over my NorthBridge.

NBK

[NBK]

Temperatures:
Motherboard 41 °C (106 °F)
CPU 39 °C (102 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 45 °C (113 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 44 °C (111 °F)
North Bridge 49 °C (120 °F)
South Bridge 49 °C (120 °F)
GPU 52 °C (126 °F)
GPU Memory 52 °C (126 °F)
GPU Ambient 45 °C (113 °F)
WDC WD2500YS-01SHB1 35 °C (95 °F)
WDC WD5001ABYS-01YNA0 36 °C (97 °F)
WDC WD7500AAKS-00RBA0 37 °C (99 °F)

Cooling Fans:
CPU 2789 RPM
Chassis #1 2812 RPM
Fan #1 3516 RPM
GPU 1043 RPM (37%)

Voltage Values:
CPU Core 1.26 V
+3.3 V 3.18 V
+5 V 4.99 V
+12 V 11.87 V
+5 V Standby 4.85 V
FSB VTT 1.26 V
North Bridge Core 1.42 V
South Bridge Core 1.10 V
South Bridge PLL 1.55 V
DIMM 2.03 V
DIMM VTT 1.01 V
GPU Vcc 3.24 V

[ShawnTRD]

All your temps seem really high at idle. Did you get your case fans straighten out? Get that side fan blowing in.

[NBK]

All your temps seem really high at idle. Did you get your case fans straighten out? Get that side fan blowing in.

I will give it a try if it is possible...

[ShawnTRD]

Fans can be turned around with 4 screws.

[NBK]

Fans can be turned around with 4 screws.

Hi,

My rear fan is not outputting much air.

My case is crammed with cables and stuff. I need an extended ATX case.

I will turn around the side fan to see if that helps...

NBK

[NBK]

Fans can be turned around with 4 screws.

Unfortunately ShawnTRD, Lian-Li fixed the side door fan where it was impossible to reverse.



NBK

[ShawnTRD]

Why can't you take those 4 screws out and turn it around?

[NBK]

Why can't you take those 4 screws out and turn it around?

I took the 4 screws out and turned it around. The problem there was no way to screw them in on the other side. Believe me. I tried for an hour to find a work around.

NBK

[NBK]

Q9650 have been know to not live up to there ability on this board. Still a great upgrade from E8400 and one I want to do with my Q6700.

Sitting just surfing the internet I'm getting these temps.

Temperatures
Motherboard 30 °C (86 °F)
CPU 19 °C (66 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 23 °C (73 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 23 °C (73 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 17 °C (63 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 22 °C (72 °F)
North Bridge 39 °C (102 °F)
South Bridge 38 °C (100 °F)
GPU Diode 36 °C (97 °F)
SAMSUNG HD103UJ 26 °C (79 °F)
WDC WD2000JS-60NCB1 34 °C (93 °F)
WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 50 °C (122 °F)
.
.
Then just ran Prime95 for 13 minutes.

Temperatures
Motherboard 31 °C (88 °F)
CPU 40 °C (104 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 46 °C (115 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 45 °C (113 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 40 °C (104 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 41 °C (106 °F)
North Bridge 44 °C (111 °F)
South Bridge 40 °C (104 °F)
GPU Diode 38 °C (100 °F)
SAMSUNG HD103UJ 27 °C (81 °F)
WDC WD2000JS-60NCB1 34 °C (93 °F)
WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 50 °C (122 °F)

Hi,

Do you think that i need to reapply AS5 to my Zalman and CPU to lower temps?

thanks
NBK

[kup]

Looks fine to me. :)

I've just purchased a new Maximus Formula (and of course I bios flashed it) so I'll be back around here for a bit. :)

[ShawnTRD]

Hi,

Do you think that i need to reapply AS5 to my Zalman and CPU to lower temps?

thanks
NBK

I think you need to get control of the case temp

yours
Motherboard 41 °C (106 °F)

vs

mine

Motherboard 30 °C (86 °F)

If you reapply AS5 to your CPU I have the most success with one dot of AS5 in the middle of the CPU. Clean CPU and Cooler with Alcohol.

[NBK]

I think you need to get control of the case temp

yours
Motherboard 41 °C (106 °F)

vs

mine

Motherboard 30 °C (86 °F)

If you reapply AS5 to your CPU I have the most success with one dot of AS5 in the middle of the CPU. Clean CPU and Cooler with Alcohol.

You are right about my motherboard temps. I may have to get another case or more fans...

NBK

[NBK]

Hi,

Do you think that this case will lower my motherboard temps. I do not have many options given that my current case is very cramped. http://www.silverpcs.com/product_info.php?products_id=30&osCsid=72243af3d061cb57655a77461fe1bc77

[NBK]

Check out the cramped space i have in this case!

[NBK]

Hi,

I reversed the flow outwards of the rear fan. It was blowing inward. I will try some other things later...

EDIT: Side panel was off...

NBK



Temperatures:
Motherboard 36 °C (97 °F)
CPU 32 °C (90 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 40 °C (104 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 38 °C (100 °F)
North Bridge 44 °C (111 °F)
South Bridge 42 °C (108 °F)
GPU 46 °C (115 °F)
GPU Memory 46 °C (115 °F)
GPU Ambient 40 °C (104 °F)
WDC WD2500YS-01SHB1 26 °C (79 °F)
WDC WD5001ABYS-01YNA0 32 °C (90 °F)
WDC WD7500AAKS-00RBA0 32 °C (90 °F)

Cooling Fans:
CPU 2812 RPM
Chassis #1 2812 RPM
Fan #1 3516 RPM
Fan #3 1507 RPM
GPU 1031 RPM (37%)

Voltage Values:
CPU Core 1.26 V
+3.3 V 3.20 V
+5 V 5.02 V
+12 V 11.87 V
+5 V Standby 4.87 V
FSB VTT 1.26 V
North Bridge Core 1.42 V
South Bridge Core 1.10 V
South Bridge PLL 1.55 V
DIMM 2.03 V
DIMM VTT 1.01 V
GPU Vcc 3.25 V

[ShawnTRD]

Hi,

Do you think that this case will lower my motherboard temps. I do not have many options given that my current case is very cramped. http://www.silverpcs.com/product_info.php?products_id=30&osCsid=72243af3d061cb57655a77461fe1bc77

For the price of that case I would go with COOLER MASTER HAF 932.. It's got better drive management.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=201031&highlight=COOLER+MASTER+HAF

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

[NBK]

For the price of that case I would go with COOLER MASTER HAF 932.. It's got better drive management.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=201031&highlight=COOLER+MASTER+HAF

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

Hi,

I will have to think about a Cooler Master. I have been using Lian-Li cases for at least 8yrs...



Thanks,
NBK

[ShawnTRD]

Check out the reviews. Your see lots of good info.

[Jodiuh]

What's the max allowable temp on the NB for this board? I bumped mine up to 1.62 and everything's stable, but it's running @ 49C w/ linpack w/ a 27C/81F room temp.

[ShawnTRD]

I've read that above 50c gets unstable. How long you running linpack? What the rest of your settings. If your stable there try lowering one or two spots and test it again and again. Lower Voltage and Temp the better.

[Jodiuh]

Here's where I'm at after an hour of browsing...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jodiuh/Q9550/Q95503600NB162vidle.jpg

I'm using and the instructions, "However, most people can use "Standard" mode as it should be sufficient." However, a friend just sent me this info...

Linpack... i would use Linx, its Linpack base with a nice GUI

[url]http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=201670 (]http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=197835[/url)

use the problem size 25,000 or just set it to use ALL RAM. Warnring
though - this :banana::banana::banana::banana: makes ur CPU burn and ur ssytem cry. I would deem a
system stable after 3-4 hours of this stuff. Gets bout 20*C hotter
than any other torture test out there. its my fav.

Would that be better?

[Wallboy]

Hey all. I've started to have problems with this board. A few months back my computer would freeze at POST or the windows loading screen. I took out the RAM one by one (4x1GB DDR2-800 Crucial Ballistix) until I found the one that kept my computer from posting. So I RMA'ed it. Got my new stick back and all was fine for a few months. Now it started happening again. When I boot up in the morning my computer will freeze at 1 of 3 places. Other it will not POST at all (no beeps), it will beep once and freeze at the maximus logo screen, or it will freeze at the windows loading screen. Also the one time it locked up right when I saved & exited in BIOS. If I reboot a few times I can sometimes get into BIOS where I can reload my profile and save and exit and it will then boot up fine. The thing is, once I'm in Windows, it's 100% fine. I can play games/encode/etc all day without any issues. It's just that first bootup in the morning thats causing problems. I might try and update my BIOS revision since it's the version that came with it.

Anyone have any other ideas of what the problem might be?

[ShawnTRD]

Try resetting the BOIS via the reset button? I would go auto and just set your RAM Voltage.

[Wallboy]

Tried that. I can now only boot with 3 of the 4 sticks of RAM. If I put the 4th one in it just stops at the maximus formula logo screen. On the LCD Poster it reads USB Final when it stops. When I take out the 4th screen it boots right up... I've tried various voltage settings ranging from the default 2.00 (1.97 actual) all the way to 2.14 (2.21 actual). Also tried complete auto settings, setting the speed to DDR-757, looser timings, etc. Here's my voltage settings currently according to everest:

CPU Core - 1.33V
+3.3V - 3.23V
+5V - 4.85V
+12V - 11.98V
+5V Standby - 4.90V
FSB VTT - 1.34V
NB Core - 1.41V
SB Core - 1.07V
South Bridge PLL - 1.52V
DIMM - 2.16V
DIMM VTT - 1.08V

Edit: Alright I upped the NB Core to 1.44V and now it booted with all 4 sticks of RAM in. I found another guy that had the exact same issue with nearly the same stuff I'm running here: http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardware/131716-asus-maximus-forumla-x38-usb-final-problem.html

[ShawnTRD]

Test each stick of ram with memtest

[Wallboy]

Yeah I'll do that if the problem comes back. So far with this new NB Core Voltage it seems to be working. I think maybe my NB degraded maybe a bit over the past 2-3 years and just needed a little more oomph to run all 4 sticks? Anyhow... we'll see...

[sikvdila]

when we see final soundmax driver for win 7?

[Wallboy]

Alright well my computer started to hang on the Starting Windows screen before the logo even popped up... Ran memtest86, no errors. Reloaded BIOS defaults, and it booted fine. So I restarted, reloaded my OC settings, and it booted fine.. Now for the last few days it sometimes boots into windows and sometimes doesn't. I'm getting sick of this randomness. Maybe it's the memory, but after running it flawless for the past 2 years and no errors through memtest86 I have no clue. I ordered some G.Skill 2x2 PC2-8500 today. If my computer still keeps having problems I'll just return it so I can rule out the memory as the problem. If thats the case, would it be the mobo thats dieing?

[Bigchrome]

Could anyone dig up the link of how to recover from a bad bios flash after doing this? Killed my p5e doing this a while back and didn't have time to fix it!

[ShawnTRD]

Could anyone dig up the link of how to recover from a bad bios flash after doing this? Killed my p5e doing this a while back and didn't have time to fix it!

I think you can just use the driver disk that came with the mb. Try booting from it.

[Bigchrome]

I think you can just use the driver disk that came with the mb. Try booting from it.

It doesn't seem to work at all! I tried a pen drive with every combination of bios name I could try last night and the board would just turn on for about 30 seconds and then turn off! :shrug: At one point with the pen drive began to flash after I went to start it for the second time but it still did nothing?

[ShawnTRD]

So when you turn on the computer it will turn off in about 30 seconds? Does it do that even if your doing nothing? Can you get into the bios screen? Sounds like you might be thermally shutting down (getting to hot). Tried resetting the BIOS CMOS? I would also try using only one stick of ram then the other. Maybe one is bad.

[loften]

mine did the same thing when my crucial memory started going bad.. i had the 1066 ballistix.. 4x1
if i remember right it was listed as compatible when i built that computer and was later removed from the compatibility list..
i have always had problems with that memory from day 1.. i had to install a different set to boot from to get into bios to set up the voltages then install them.. after that it worked until i borked a oc or something. then i had to start over with the other set.. i got those to run pretty good even over there rated speeds but they started to dye.. i have 2 dead sticks, 1 that give errors and 1 still works.. i put them in the freezer and they worked again for a while.. now i do not use them. i have some reaper 1200 in there now and it boots up normal and does rated speeds..

[Bigchrome]

So when you turn on the computer it will turn off in about 30 seconds? Does it do that even if your doing nothing? Can you get into the bios screen? Sounds like you might be thermally shutting down (getting to hot). Tried resetting the BIOS CMOS? I would also try using only one stick of ram then the other. Maybe one is bad.

Yep, it does the same if no pen drive is plugged in aswell I think! I think temps were ok, heatsink was warming up so there is contact but it wasn't getting too hot. I tested it on an open bench with one stick of ram aswell btw. Reset the cmos and tried the "hard reset" aswell to no avail!


mine did the same thing when my crucial memory started going bad.. i had the 1066 ballistix.. 4x1
if i remember right it was listed as compatible when i built that computer and was later removed from the compatibility list..
i have always had problems with that memory from day 1.. i had to install a different set to boot from to get into bios to set up the voltages then install them.. after that it worked until i borked a oc or something. then i had to start over with the other set.. i got those to run pretty good even over there rated speeds but they started to dye.. i have 2 dead sticks, 1 that give errors and 1 still works.. i put them in the freezer and they worked again for a while.. now i do not use them. i have some reaper 1200 in there now and it boots up normal and does rated speeds..

Would you believe I had 4 sticks of unopened ballistix I had just gotten back from rma in my house and of all the ones to pick I used the 1066 I had... Think that could be it? Come to think of it the p5e died while using pc8500 in the first place I think :/

Just to clarify it stopped booting directly after a bios update, so number one suspect would still be a corrupt bios right?

[NLight95]

Is anyone here using a Noctua NH-D14 cooler on their Max Formula or Rampage?

I currently have a Thermalright HR-05 + 80mm fan on the NB to keep it cool. I'm wondering if I'd still have the room to use the HR-05 if I installed the Noctua cooler. Here are some pics.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/NLight95/IMG_2153.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/NLight95/IMG_2154.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/NLight95/IMG_2155.jpg

[ShArKo]

Hello guys... I want to know if I can upgrade my Rampage Formula BIOS from 0403 to 1001. I make the Maximus / Rampage convertions. I have my doubt because I don´t know 0403 BIOS is a modded BIOS or just the normal BIOS from the Rampage Formula motherboard.

Thanks.

[NLight95]

Hello guys... I want to know if I can upgrade my Rampage Formula BIOS from 0403 to 1001. I make the Maximus / Rampage convertions. I have my doubt because I don´t know 0403 BIOS is a modded BIOS or just the normal BIOS from the Rampage Formula motherboard.

Thanks.

0403 is an official release from Asus and is rather dated (unless you acquired the BIOS elsewhere). Most likely you won't be able to load any saved profiles from 0403 to 1001 without some problems. I'd recommend writing your BIOS settings down or taking pics of your BIOS screens with a digital camera then print them off. Be sure to set your BIOS back to its defaults before upgrading to a new BIOS.

Links for the latest MF & RF BIOSes need to be added to page 1 of this thread.

[ShArKo]

0403 is an official release from Asus and is rather dated (unless you acquired the BIOS elsewhere). Most likely you won't be able to load any saved profiles from 0403 to 1001 without some problems. I'd recommend writing your BIOS settings down or taking pics of your BIOS screens with a digital camera then print them off. Be sure to set your BIOS back to its defaults before upgrading to a new BIOS.

Links for the latest MF & RF BIOSes need to be added to page 1 of this thread.

NLight95 thanks for the answer. I don´t have any profiles to save. I just want to be sure to make this upgrade.
I ask again: If I change the BIOS version from 0403 to 1001 Im going to have problems??? Is 100% compatible?

[NLight95]

NLight95 thanks for the answer. I don´t have any profiles to save. I just want to be sure to make this upgrade.
I ask again: If I change the BIOS version from 0403 to 1001 Im going to have problems??? Is 100% compatible?

I have 1001 currently running on my Max Formula (see sig) which I "converted" to a Rampage. My FSB maxed out at 480 on using the latest MF 1403 BIOS. Switching over the to the RF 1001 BIOS I'm able to easily run 500 FSB and will push it more once my new cooler arrives.

1001 is an official Asus BIOS release. See here:

http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?modelname=Rampage%20Formula&SLanguage=en-us

[ShArKo]

I have 1001 currently running on my Max Formula (see sig) which I "converted" to a Rampage. My FSB maxed out at 480 on using the latest MF 1403 BIOS. Switching over the to the RF 1001 BIOS I'm able to easily run 500 FSB and will push it more once my new cooler arrives.

1001 is an official Asus BIOS release. See here:

http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?modelname=Rampage%20Formula&SLanguage=en-us

Thank for your help NLight95!!! I upgrade my BIOS with no problems :D And right now I testing 400*9 with 1.36v Vcore At least for now my system is stable. Next time I will try 450*9.
I think my problem is my CPU. The VID is 1.225v and the steping is C0 and im going to need many Vcore to get 4GHZ and make my system stable...

[thelawns]

It's been a hell of a long time since I posted here, and it looks like i've missed a hell of a lot!

Ok, I'm on an old Bios on my Maximus Formula SE, its been 18 months+ since I last did it and have been running an C2D E6550 2.33ghz succesfully all that time at 3.5ghz! I'll edit this post after a quick reboot to tell you what Bios version i have.

What is the best Bios update currently for my board and what is all this converting to Rampage talk? :)

EDIT: My current Bios is 0802...

[ShawnTRD]

It's been a hell of a long time since I posted here, and it looks like i've missed a hell of a lot!

Ok, I'm on an old Bios on my Maximus Formula SE, its been 18 months+ since I last did it and have been running an C2D E6550 2.33ghz succesfully all that time at 3.5ghz! I'll edit this post after a quick reboot to tell you what Bios version i have.

What is the best Bios update currently for my board and what is all this converting to Rampage talk? :)

EDIT: My current Bios is 0802...


if your not having any problems I would say the one your on.

[thelawns]

Oops, forgot to say i'm about to get a Q9550, so I am pretty sure I need to upgrade the Bios for it to recognise this processor! :rolleyes:

EDIT: Just realised my Signature already has my machine spec in it, with Bios version! Lol. Need to update it slightly though, so will do that now...

[ShawnTRD]

Well I haven't heard much about problems with the newer BIOS. I would get the newest for either the MF or RF.

[thelawns]

What are the advantages and disadvantages by using a Rampage Formula Bios?
Is anything goin to be lost feature wise with the Bios update?

More to the point, how do I update it to the Rampage Formula Bios, simply the same way as the Maximus Formula update?

[ShawnTRD]

You get or at less you did get some more BIOS options. I did it long time ago and have had no problems.

[thelawns]

So I just update the Bios in exactly the same way as I normally would, to the "Rampage Formula 1001 BIOS" and all will be the same, but with a few more Bios options?

Do I need to do anything, at all, before I update my Bios?

And also, what other updates should I be doing, such as Intel Chipset drivers once I have the Rampage Bios?

EDIT: I just reset my Bios to Default settings, then loaded EZ Flash 2 Bios utility from the boot up, using ALT+F2. Current ROM is MAXIMUS Formula, Ver: 0802 as already mentioned. I tried loading the Rampage Formula Bios into the utility and it came up with "ROM ID in the file is incompatible with existing BIOS!" so what now??

[ShawnTRD]

Read... Half way down the first post in big red letters.

Maximus / P5E to Rampage Conversion


http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=179580

[thelawns]

Ok, followed all that precisely, but even that throws up the same message:

"ROM ID in the file is incompatible with existing BIOS!"

Do I need to update to a newer version of the MF Bios before I can get the RF Bios to update?

[ShawnTRD]

I think when I didn't it I had trouble with AFUDOS v2.36ES, and had to use the older version v2.29ES. I would say no you don't have to upgrade your MF BIOS because this BIOS Swap method come out long time ago. I would maybe use one of the older RF BIOS listed to do the flash.

[thelawns]

Ok, i'll try the older AFUDOS version first. If that doesn't work, i'll try an older RF Bios too... Thanks...

[ShArKo]

I follow the guide on page 1 a long time ago and I have no problems with the conversion. Use the AFUDOS version that ShawnTRD was talking about. One´s you do the conversion you can upgrade your RF BIOS with the ASUS FLASH UTILITY...
I had the 0403 RF BIOS and I changed it to 1001 version. For now is working great :D:D:D

[thelawns]

Hurrah, the older AFUDOS did the trick, I now have RF 1001 bios!!! Thanks guys...

I have ordered my Q9550 today too, so as soon as that arrives, let the fun begin! What OC should I expect from it??

[ShawnTRD]

Maybe around 3.7. These chipsets aren't the best for 45nm

[thelawns]

Well 3.5 or more will do me just fine!

However, I now cannot get my E6550 back to 3.5, using the same settings as I had on the MF Bios... :eek:

[ShawnTRD]

Post your BIOS settings. Picture work

[thelawns]

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/6517/temps.png (http://img813.imageshack.us/i/temps.png/)

[thelawns]

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2676/rfbios251110005.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/rfbios251110005.jpg/)
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/2006/rfbios251110001.jpg (http://img130.imageshack.us/i/rfbios251110001.jpg/)
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2474/rfbios251110002.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/i/rfbios251110002.jpg/)
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3518/rfbios251110003.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/i/rfbios251110003.jpg/)
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/806/rfbios251110004.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/i/rfbios251110004.jpg/)

[NLight95]

Maybe around 3.7. These chipsets aren't the best for 45nm

Actually the first series of Maximus and Rampage boards were much better at oc'ing dual cores. The mosfets will "squeal" somewhat and get quite hot when placed under load from an oc'ed quad (they sure did with my Q6600). The later series added additional cooling to the mosfets and I hear they handle quads much better.

My E8500 Wolfdale runs great but has hit a thermal wall with my current cooler.

[ShawnTRD]

I wouldn't push your board to 500 X 7. Wait till you get your new CPU then start playing. Read though this thread, and see what people have for Q9550 and Q9650 settings. You should be able to get the Q9550 to 450 X 8 (3.6). Just make sure your RAM is set so doesn't go past 1066. And change some settings now. I don't like DRAM Voltage (to low is as bad as to high), NB, and CPU Voltages.

[thelawns]

Wooooo! The Q9550 arrived next day, although I chose the cheap 7-10 delivery option. Some fun to be had for me at the weekend then!!!

Don't worry about commenting on my current E6550 Bios screenshots just above, that's coming out now... :)

I have some Thermaright coolers on my mosfets, so hopefully they will help me out a bit!!!

[thelawns]

ShaunTRD, i'll try those voltages, EXCEPT the DIMM/DRAM one at 2.1V(2.2V) because my memory is suppose to have a max of 1.9V ???

And my Ram shouldn't go past 1066, until I have a FSB of at least 533 anyway??? Not that I will get that high!

[thelawns]

Whats making my Motherboard temperature so much higher than yours??

[ShArKo]

Whats making my Motherboard temperature so much higher than yours??

Maybe he have a WC System, or maybe he´s on north pol :ROTF:

[ShawnTRD]

Whats making my Motherboard temperature so much higher than yours??

I'm guessing better air flow. The Antec P182SE doesn't look like it lets air in very well. Plus no side fan. How are you fans setup.

[thelawns]

The motherboard temp, is based on the Mosfets, right? Do you have fans on your Mosfets or better heatsinks?

I'm actually rather worried now. As I could have sworn I had Thermalright HR-09 heatsinks on them. Just checked in my case and I haven't, it's the standard copper heatsink supplied with the board. The worrying thing is I remember having the HR-09's, but now can't remember why I never fitted them. I don't have a clue where they are either. :(

[ShawnTRD]

Can you take a picture of the inside of your case, and point out the fans and the direction they are blowing. The only extra fan I have blowing on anything is the NB has a 60mm fan wedged above my video card.

My Fans
Front: 120mm blowing in (Mid Speed)
Side: 120mm blowing in (Mid Speed)
Rear: 120mm blowing OUT (High Speed)
CPU: TRUE 120 with one 120mm Fan (Mid Speed)
NB: 60mm fan wedged above my video card

[thelawns]

After a mammoth search through my old posts, it turns out I never did get the mosfet coolers... http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2576374&postcount=2994

Completely forgot about that!!! :) I think I will have a search to see if the other size Thermalright Mosfet coolers are availble in the UK now...

I also found some pics of the inside of my case while I was looking through old posts... http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2577542&postcount=3027

My Fans are as follows in the TOP chamber:
Bottom at the Front: 120mm blowing In (was Mid Speed but have just changed this to High...)
Top UP at the Back: 120mm blowing Out (Mid Speed) this needs replacing as it's started squeeking on High speed.
Top at the Rear: 120mm blowing Out (High Speed)
Thermalright Ultra 120 eXtreme CPU cooler has a 120mm Fan on it too.

And as follows in the BOTTOM chamber:
All my hardrives are at the front with a 120mm Fan (Low Speed) in the middle blowing onto the PSU at the back, which is suprisingly cool...

I have a spare 80mm fan, which I am going to attach to my NB Thermalright cooler, seeing as it runs a bit hotter than the SB. My 8800GTS has it's own air duct blowing out the back of the case.

[ShawnTRD]

Hmmm

I don't know why your MB is running so hot. What's the temp in the room your at?

[thelawns]

What coolers have you got on your Mosfets?

[ShawnTRD]

All SE stock on air. No water

[thelawns]

Hmmm. Well I have swapped to the Q9550 now and here are my temps again. The bios is back at default, except I have changed to Manual overclock, 400FSB. All CPU Configuration is Disabled. So with very little effort it's running at 3.4Ghz. Lol.

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/302/temps2.png

So now, I need to start from scratch and get this bad boy to something a bit higher! It's been a long time, so where to start... :)

[ShawnTRD]

Turn down your NB Voltage. Shouldn't need more then 1.45V. And with only 2 x 1GB RAM maybe less.

[thelawns]

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2818/rfbios281110006.jpg
http://img574.imageshack.us/img574/191/rfbios281110007.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/3232/rfbios281110008.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4599/rfbios281110009.jpg

[thelawns]

Ok, at 440FSB I can post, but not get into Windows. At 422 I can get into Windows but it's not very stable. At 420 (3.57Ghz) it seems ok generally, but Battlefield Bad Company 2 screwed up the VGA drivers after playing for a while?

Most of the Bios settings are still on Auto. What should I be changing to get some more out of it??

[ShawnTRD]

CPU Spread Spectrum could go to 100 delay
Set your dram frequency so your not pushing it past 1066.
Read up on PCIE frequency (mine is at 105) http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/132872-pcie-frequency.html

[ShawnTRD]

CPU Spread Spectrum could go to 100 delay
Set your dram frequency so your not pushing it past 1066.
Read up on PCIE frequency (mine is at 105) http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/132872-pcie-frequency.html

[thelawns]

Hmmm, tried those and still no better. Currently at 420FSB still.

[thelawns]

Well that's it. I'm back at 400FSB using the 400 FSB Strap which means my memory is running at 1066. A 3.4 Ghz overclock will have to do. Shame I couldn't get any further with it but i'm bored of the freezing and restarts at 3.6Ghz. :(

Thanks for your help ShawnTRD.

[ShawnTRD]

Have any benchmarks you can run on your CPU and Memory? Mostly the CPU. I want to see if it's worth upgrading from my Q6700 to a Q9550 or Q9650.

[thelawns]

Hmmm I do yes, what Benchmark do you have so I can run one on the same one for you to compare against??

[NLight95]

I took the 4 screws out and turned it around. The problem there was no way to screw them in on the other side. Believe me. I tried for an hour to find a work around.
NBK

I know this reply is late, but you CAN reverse the fan. I have done exactly that for my LL A77 case. It didn't come with a side fan so I used the one from a previous LL case.

One of my LL fans has socketed nuts so I used 1.25" long screws to reverse the fan and shroud. If you don't have a fan with socketed nuts you can always use washers with nuts instead. I reversed the shroud to face towards the side door. That way it draws air into the case and targets the motherboard, specifically the northrbridge (which previously had a TR HR-05). It makes about a 5 degree difference and even cools the back of my 4890. Definitely worth any "trouble" I had in modding the side fan & bracket.

Here are some photos. They're not all that clear because my digital camera no longer works and I had to use my old Sony camcorder, which really doesn't take good pics.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/NLight95/DSC00129.jpg

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/NLight95/DSC00130.jpg

[[B]attery]

Well that's it. I'm back at 400FSB using the 400 FSB Strap which means my memory is running at 1066. A 3.4 Ghz overclock will have to do. Shame I couldn't get any further with it but i'm bored of the freezing and restarts at 3.6Ghz. :(

Thanks for your help ShawnTRD.

this seems like a really poor overclock. i know not all boards will run 500fsb, but you shouldn't have a problem getting 450fsb and i would think that processor is good to ~4ghz. i would seriously give it another shot.

[[B]attery]

so, after reading this (http://www.anandtech.com/show/2427/6) i thought i'd try 400 fsb with trd 5. i'm running 1.43v nb and i tried voltages up to 1.49 (in bios settings) and nothing posted. i'm also running a 5:4 divider to set memory to 500 @ 5-5-5-18. which is the rated speed of these ocz reapers ddr2-1000


any suggestions?

[ante_ante]

I just got this board, it´s old but i´m planning to run dice on it. Never done it before but i got myself an Intel E1200. How high FSB have u seen on this board? If someone has done some benching with dice on this, please maybe u can give me some good tips then :) Running on bios 1403 right now. Do u think it´s possible with 500+ or should i go with my older Asus P5K ?

[Nuckin_Futs]

I know this is old but it's cool to see people still using it. It's a good workhorse of a board.

I want to drop a newer quad core in this but didnt have a great overclock with my previous Q9450 but it ran smooth otherwise. What is the best of the not so expensive Q9x quads to run on this mobo and with what latest BIOS? For example, the Q9550 (what about the "S" version?) what version, what kind of an OC are we seeing on them on this X38 mobo? I know the Q9550 did great on a X48 RAMPAGE but I never used it on this.

What do you folks think?

[maneta]

I saw threads about that mobo and that CPU with a stable oc for 24/7 around 3.8Ghz

According to ASUS website, the Q9550 wasn't supported until BIOS rev. 1004. So u should have a newer one.

Here u got some infos:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=170338

So as u can see that mobo dont like high fsbs not allowing great ocs under aircolling.

[Flak]

Can anyone mod the latest maximus or rampage bios to have the latest intel raid rom?

[[ITA]SEREUPIN80]

hi.. i have just installed the Q9650 E0 on my P5E with the bios of rampage formula 0902..

I would like to find the hightest rocksolid overclock for the dayuse... before I have used an 8400@4ghz every day for 2 years... never problems..


could somebody help me with this ? :welcome:

thanks!!


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update: i have tried to start to change some setting


3690mhz 410x9 ram 1033mhz

it looks like stable for the moment...



VALORE---------->SETTING NEL BIOS---------->HARWARE MONITOR



CPUVoltage --------> 1.275 ------------------------> 1.256
Cpu PLL ------------> 1.60 -------------------------> 1.696
North Bridge V. ----> 1.45 -------------------------> 1.456
DRAM Volt. ---------> 2.04 -------------------------> 2.096/2.112
FSB Term. V. -------> 1.40 -------------------------> 1.328
South Bridge V. ----> 1.075 ------------------------> 1.088
SB 1,5V V. ---------> 1.60 --------------------------> 1.632
Loadline cal. -------> enable