The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[xxDayTrader]

............so if you want a decent CPU block and a res at reasonable cost I can help you out, I just sold my spare rads and pump but there easily available in the 4sale thread

I've already forgotten the # but I think I need 50...or 100 posts to be able to view the for-sale thread so, could any of you guys give me some ideas what it'd cost to buy everything: decent pump(s), radiator(s), tubing and so forth to cool this mobo, the cpu and a 3870x2 for now or maybe something from the 4800 series down the road, and prob. something to cool the NB and/or SB of the mobo (unless that's just completely unnecessary)

I mean, I know I could spend a friggin grand buying the best of the best all brand new but I'm just trying to get some ideas on how much we're talking here before I go spend 100 hrs reading up on what components to buy.

[zlojack]

I've got two pumps, a 120.2 and an EK Supreme that I've just put up for sale on HardwareCanucks, but I'd be willing to ship to the USA as well.

[Grnfinger]

I've already forgotten the # but I think I need 50...or 100 posts to be able to view the for-sale thread so, could any of you guys give me some ideas what it'd cost to buy everything: decent pump(s), radiator(s), tubing and so forth to cool this mobo, the cpu and a 3870x2 for now or maybe something from the 4800 series down the road, and prob. something to cool the NB and/or SB of the mobo (unless that's just completely unnecessary)

I mean, I know I could spend a friggin grand buying the best of the best all brand new but I'm just trying to get some ideas on how much we're talking here before I go spend 100 hrs reading up on what components to buy.

You will need


RAD ---------PA 120.3 $115
CPU Block----Swiftech GT $35
NB Block----------MCW30 $20
Res--------EK or Swiftech $20-40
Tubing----------Primoflex $20 ( for 10 feet)
Pump--------------D4 $40-60

Total $250-290

You can most likely do it for a little less but I wouldnt cheap out on the pump or CPU block.
Try to stay with trusted names
Some will argue the res is not needed and I suppose its true, but it helps to remove air from the system very quickly and would be recommended for your first time.

[Zucker2k]

^^^ I got an apogee gt. $20 + shipping. A Q9550 too.


ehh nope not yet but not bad for 2x 4850's, dont worry I'm still working on it.


One of my partners touched yah with the same card though with win 7 with a little guidance from me ;):) Nice one, what clocks was he running?

[chew*]

^^^ I got an apogee gt. $20 + shipping. A Q9550 too.

:) Nice one, what clocks was he running?

5.4 IIRC, we were down to the last few drops of LN2 and it was quick and dirty. My fault, I shoulda have focussed on the LN2 systems instead of my rig on DI. Running 3 rigs at once is hectic as hell especially when all sub zero. Next time one rig only.

[Flak]

How is the Maximus Formula with q9550? Currently have one with a q6600 but couldn't pass up getting the q9550 for $60. The q6600 will move to an old p35 board.

[Nuckin_Futs]

I'd like to know on that Q9550 too as far as what are the known good revisions. I had poor luck with my Q9450 on this mobo so I'm moving the 45nm to my RAMPAGE EXTREME mobo. What canI expect out of that core on that mobo as far as FSB or overall overclocking?

Also, am I the only one then who has Vista x64 edition w/ 4g RAM on S4 Hibernate issues? My notebook has the same and all ACPI S3 and S4 works perfectly. On the decktop, it sucks, Ihave to do the reset to get it to detect. And on my MAXIMUS FORMULA SE, I have to put it to sleep (S3) like 3 times for it to stay aslepp in Windows 7 Ultimate beta.

[Grnfinger]

I moved from the Maximus X38 with my Q9550, as I have posted b4 the Maximus X38 is 45nm quad FSB limited
425-435FSB seems to be the max on this chipset, yes there are a few rare chips that go beyond this but I have yet to see many of them.

Tested my Q9650 on the board with same results it would max out at 427FSB on any multi

[Dukester420]

just flashed to the rampage 0802 bios and it seems to have turned my board into a beast... whats up with my vantage scores?

525x8 stable for hours of 3dbenching so far. on water.

[Jaekae]

ok so it was a year or more ago since i had my computer overclocked, so i have forgot all settings needed :D

got a maximus formula with newest bios and a e8400 intel that i wanna get to 4 ghz again like a had it before, could anyone give a starting point of the bios settings?

[Power_VANO]

Guys you can use 0803 BIOS, it's on support.asus.com already ;)

[Dukester420]

yes i stand corrected i am running the 803 bios and not the 802 bios.
i managed to get it bench stable at 4.4GHZ and it put my cpu score up over 40,000... but the thing is.. is that im like 10,000 over the WR on CPU score... whats up with that?

[Flak]

Using the 803 bios, haven't tried any others yet. Changed my q6600 to the q9550 and can't get past 425fsb. It does 8.5x425 with all voltages @ stock, vid is 1.225. It will boot up to 505, but it won't load into Vista at anything past 425. Any suggestions, other then getting a new board?

[Spyrus]

You could try the 0308 instead of 0803 for those not having the newest processors.
It has better memory latency than any newest bios that that (tREF = 16383T)

[lohoutlaw]

Hello people,

I've been reading this thread trying to figure out the memory on this board.
Could not find any post with my kinda hardware or clock speeds.
I've currently have 4.6Ghz stable with these bios settings. (pics below)
But i want more :D
I have been told my memory is holding me back and i need help adjusting the setting for the memory that i have no clue what these settings do.
As you can see most of them are set to auto.
I want 4.7 or 4.8Ghz.
Cooling custom water.
Idle temps are about 25c and load is 62c with IntelBurn. (yes its 18c room temp)
Here are some screen shots of my bios so that maybe some one can help me with some adjustments :)

Specs.
Intel E8600
Asus Rampage Formula
OCZ Reaper PC8500 1066mhz 2x1g/was using PC9200, but could not get to run at rated speeds with the auto settings.
Corsair 750w 60amp rail.
WD 250g SATA with Windows Vista 32bit
XFX 260GTX 192 version water cooled.

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s116/lohoutlaw/P3150005.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s116/lohoutlaw/P3150006.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s116/lohoutlaw/P3150007.jpg
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s116/lohoutlaw/P3150008.jpg

[lohoutlaw]

OK sorry for the double post.
I just updated bios to latest and greatest and now i cant get it stable at the above settings. :rofl:
Going to start over and i will be back.

[jdrom]

Using the 803 bios, haven't tried any others yet. Changed my q6600 to the q9550 and can't get past 425fsb. It does 8.5x425 with all voltages @ stock, vid is 1.225. It will boot up to 505, but it won't load into Vista at anything past 425. Any suggestions, other then getting a new board?
Not much you can do IMO.

I'm in the same boat, though I have a X3350 (basically a Q9450). The Maximus Formula and well the X38 chipset in general just doesn't OC well with 45nm quad cores. I too am stuck at 425FSB. Anything beyond that results in OS instability.

[Zucker2k]

You could try the 0308 instead of 0803 for those not having the newest processors.
It has better memory latency than any newest bios that that (tREF = 16383T)Or you can use 0803 (highly recommended) and use mchbar to load tref on windows startup. See the Rampage Formula thread for my little guide.

NOTE:
Just wanted to give those of you with dead-ended x38 maxforms a heads up that my venerable Rampage Formula x48 (I think it deserves that title - see my sig) is looking for a new home. Got the board new, comes with all accesories, some new, unopened. I really want a forum member to have it. The board currently holds the world record with quads and 8Gbs (unless someone can show me a board that has managed 9x528 fsb with 8GBs of ram; on water no less. Really has the potential to do some real damage on the ORB with 2x 4870 x2s. You can also count on me for help if need be as I've known it for 5 months. Thanks.

[d3fct]

@ zucker... could you share your bios settings for the 8400, I have a rampage formula and an 8400 but cant seem to get stable past 479x9 (4.3). as of lastweek im running the 803 bios. I am able to achive 10.3 in 1m super pi. I would like to break 10 , and also get stable at higher speeds seeing as how I have a phase change builder workin on a single stage cooling system for me. Plus I would like to push it further just to see how far i can take it, hopefully with sub ambient temps.

[Eastcoasthandle]

@ zucker... could you share your bios settings for the 8400, I have a rampage formula and an 8400 but cant seem to get stable past 479x9 (4.3). as of lastweek im running the 803 bios. I am able to achive 10.3 in 1m super pi. I would like to break 10 , and also get stable at higher speeds seeing as how I have a phase change builder workin on a single stage cooling system for me. Plus I would like to push it further just to see how far i can take it, hopefully with sub ambient temps.

You may want to clear the cmos.

[d3fct]

yeah i have done that prior to flashing the bios, ive flashed it about 3 times since i had it, the latest was about a week and a half to 2 weeks ago.


@ zucker i am also interested in that 8600@7.5, is that on liquid nitrogen? or maybe u meant 5.7 (600x9.5=5.7)

[Eastcoasthandle]

yeah i have done that prior to flashing the bios, ive flashed it about 3 times since i had it, the latest was about a week and a half to 2 weeks ago.


@ zucker i am also interested in that 8600@7.5, is that on liquid nitrogen?

I am talking about clearing your cmos after you flash not before.

[d3fct]

i tried it didnt seem to help, i can boot into windows up to 550fsb but i have to put the multiplier down to 7 or it wont even make it to windows without crashing. I can reach high fsb without a problem it just keeping it stable is where im having trouble's.

[Grnfinger]

i tried it didnt seem to help, i can boot into windows up to 550fsb but i have to put the multiplier down to 7 or it wont even make it to windows without crashing. I can reach high fsb without a problem it just keeping it stable is where im having trouble's.

489FSB Stable, This with with the Maximus X38 board, but the settings should play well on the Rampage.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/stable_4400.jpg


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 489
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1174
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.53
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[Zucker2k]

@ zucker... could you share your bios settings for the 8400, I have a rampage formula and an 8400 but cant seem to get stable past 479x9 (4.3). as of lastweek im running the 803 bios. I am able to achive 10.3 in 1m super pi. I would like to break 10 , and also get stable at higher speeds seeing as how I have a phase change builder workin on a single stage cooling system for me. Plus I would like to push it further just to see how far i can take it, hopefully with sub ambient temps.Hmm, that 7.5 x 600 FSB shot has all the vital voltages in it. Could you list your hardware and current bios configuration?

[d3fct]

Corsair 750w
asus rampage formula
2x2gb ddr2 1000 g.skill
E8400

thats what im running now, i can take it all the way to 4.5 and play games and run benchmarks, but i cant get it stable in prime. heres shots of my bios setting for 24/7 use.

http://www.legionofdeath.net/xxLod/images/bios1.jpg
http://www.legionofdeath.net/xxLod/images/bios2.jpg
http://www.legionofdeath.net/xxLod/images/bios3.jpg
http://www.legionofdeath.net/xxLod/images/bios4.jpg
http://www.legionofdeath.net/xxLod/images/bios5.jpg

[Grnfinger]

Set REF Cycle Time to 55 or higher.
Up your dram volts to 2.1

[Zucker2k]

set TREF to AUTO for 52.

Your fsbt may be a bit high - 1.30 should do for 500 FSB.

Set NB skew to = Normal (bios 803)

CPU core volts seem high for those clocks. What are all your temp readings?

I suggest you set AiClock Twister to stronger, for starts, moving one notch down when you fail ram-related benches.

That's all for now.

[Spyrus]

Or you can use 0803 (highly recommended) and use mchbar to load tref on windows startup. See the Rampage Formula thread for my little guide.


Good point, but i also use Linux :D, 0308 is one-way.

[Dostoyevsky77]

Hey, all! How is everyone? I just got a pair of OCZ Vertexes & just thought you might like to see some benches in RAID-0 of Raptors vs. SSD.

LINKY (http://www.overclock.net/hard-drives-storage/498027-raid-0-benchmarks-ocz-vertex-ssd.html).

Sorry I haven't been around. What's the latest good BIOS for the Rampage hack?

[Grnfinger]

Hey, all! How is everyone? I just got a pair of OCZ Vertexes & just thought you might like to see some benches in RAID-0 of Raptors vs. SSD.

LINKY (http://www.overclock.net/hard-drives-storage/498027-raid-0-benchmarks-ocz-vertex-ssd.html).

Sorry I haven't been around. What's the latest good BIOS for the Rampage hack?

Nice to see you around
803 is the latest stable bios, have yet to test it myself, waiting for some mosfet blocks b4 I can power up the board.

How are you finding the SSD's? I have been thinking on investing in them for an OS drive.

[Dostoyevsky77]

Nice to see you around
803 is the latest stable bios, have yet to test it myself, waiting for some mosfet blocks b4 I can power up the board.

How are you finding the SSD's? I have been thinking on investing in them for an OS drive.

You can check out my benchmarks HERE (http://www.overclock.net/hard-drives-storage/498027-raid-0-benchmarks-ocz-vertex-ssd.html). I just installed them (RAID-0) today. So far, they are performing superbly. It is so awesome to click on a program & have it immediately come up. I haven't so far run any complicated applications, but I'll keep you posted.

[Grnfinger]

You can check out my benchmarks HERE (http://www.overclock.net/hard-drives-storage/498027-raid-0-benchmarks-ocz-vertex-ssd.html). I just installed them (RAID-0) today. So far, they are performing superbly. It is so awesome to click on a program & have it immediately come up. I haven't so far run any complicated applications, but I'll keep you posted.

Very nice results :up:
The Vertex drives are major $$ here 120GB drive is like 600 bucks:shocked:
Cheapest I can find is a 30GB for around 225, I need a sponsor :shakes:

Looking forward to more updates, this is something I'm really interested in.

[loften]

i finally water cooled my maximus se yesterday.. d-tek fusion v2 cpu block, ek s-max nb block, 355 pump, ek-ddc x-top and tripple rad.. the temps are nice at 4.0 compaired to being on air on those settings. the oc is a little tricky over 4.3 for me still. i have never messed with setting much over 4.0 on air... seams to be stable at 4.3 at 1.31 cpu and 1.22 fsbt.. right around 50 load temps. i got it to post 475x9.5 with 1.38 cpu and 1.26 fsbt but failed after about a hour of testing.. still playing.. and working on new buggy stuff... i noticed is after removing my e8500 and re installing with water cooling my temp sensors are stuck at 36 and 38.. before they would start up at around 27 29 so i think they are sticky arfter re installing it..http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/5199/img0017s.jpg (http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0017s.jpg)

[fordf250]

just flashed to the rampage 0802 bios and it seems to have turned my board into a beast... whats up with my vantage scores?

525x8 stable for hours of 3dbenching so far. on water.

Me two. 500fsb linpack stable will try 525 next.

[loften]

i keep dropping #0 core on prime blend.. 460x9.5.. 4.38 started at cpu 133 real and vtt 1.22-3 real worked up to cpu 1.36 real vtt 1.26 real.. llc enabled.. still testing.. i think i am getting closer as it makes it longer each time.. the load temps are starting to get up there though.. 54, 55.. still 8- 10 lower then on air at 4.0. the nb is about 15-18 lower now..

[Grnfinger]

i keep dropping #0 core on prime blend.. 460x9.5.. 4.38 started at cpu 133 real and vtt 1.22-3 real worked up to cpu 1.36 real vtt 1.26 real.. llc enabled.. still testing.. i think i am getting closer as it makes it longer each time.. the load temps are starting to get up there though.. 54, 55.. still 8- 10 lower then on air at 4.0. the nb is about 15-18 lower now..

Try a drop or 2 more PLL

[loften]

thanks,, i think i got it.. re seated my ram, upped volts a little more turned it on, fell asleep and woke up still going no errors.. a little over 7 hours.. 9.5x460, strap 333, pci 100, dram freq, 1105, 2t, timing 5,5,5,18, auto on the rest for now, static read enabled, ai strong, trans booster disabled, relax 0, cpu 1.39375 bios, real 1.376, pll 1.50 bios, real 1.632, nb 1.51 bios, real 1.552, dram 2.08 bios, real 2.208, fsbt 1.36 bios, real 1.296, south bridge 1.075 bios, real 1.104, llc enabled, cpu gtl .63x, nb gtl .67x, ddr2 a auto, ddr2 b auto, ddr2 controller ddr2 ref, cpu spread disabled, pcie spread disabled.. temp hit 57 on #0 and 56 on #1.. i think i am happy for now.. i have tested my ram at those volts, either 400 or 333 strap well over that frequency before the water cooling. i have a pretty good feeling it's prime.. going to do a 3d06 run and see what it does on that. at 4.10 it ran a 21.9k so lets see..

[Dostoyevsky77]

Hi. Totally unrelated, but here's a picture of the latest shuttle launch from my front lawn in Tampa. Please don't ban me for this. I've had a lot to drink & this is my first offense.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/DSC_9706.jpg

[Dostoyevsky77]

Okay. Now I deserve to be banned.

But here's the separation of the boosters:

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/DSC_9727.jpg

My wife has some students over & I've been expelled from the living room. I'm extremely bored. Sorry.

***EDIT: Nikon D40X with a 70-300mm on ISO 400 with a 1 second exposure time.

[Grnfinger]

NICE, that would be killer to have that as a view in your backyard!!!!

[loften]

yeah that is pretty neat.. the cooliest thing i have seen all day.. did you feel it when it took off? as for the se.. i am having a little harder time getting 4.5.. i tried going up a little on pll, cpu and fsbt from where they are at the 4.38 setting in the above post.. i tried this,, cpu 1.39 and 1.40 real, fsbt 1.32 real, pll 1.64 real. just a bump or two more then before in bios.. i am wondering how much volts/heat the cpu can take.. at those settings the temps were 59-60.. still a little lower then it was on air but core #1 failed prime blend, test 2 on the second pass a couple times.. before i got the right combo for 4.3 core #0 was failing the same way... kind of wondering if i should push a little more volts or be happy with what i got.. vid on cpu is 1.25 so i think it may not be a very good clocker for volts.. at 4.3 we have been playing games since my last post pretty much non stop and it screams.. my 12 year old son says it is so smooth.. he's pro at ut2k4, been playing it since he was about 7.. pwn's me.. i have to turn off crossfire in that game and just run one hd4870 because the screen is all tore up when running both.. i am pretty happy with 4.3 but still wondering a little because i have never even been here before and stable..

[Grnfinger]

yeah that is pretty neat.. the cooliest thing i have seen all day.. did you feel it when it took off? as for the se.. i am having a little harder time getting 4.5.. i tried going up a little on pll, cpu and fsbt from where they are at the 4.38 setting in the above post.. i tried this,, cpu 1.39 and 1.40 real, fsbt 1.32 real, pll 1.64 real. just a bump or two more then before in bios.. i am wondering how much volts/heat the cpu can take.. at those settings the temps were 59-60.. still a little lower then it was on air but core #1 failed prime blend, test 2 on the second pass a couple times.. before i got the right combo for 4.3 core #0 was failing the same way... kind of wondering if i should push a little more volts or be happy with what i got.. vid on cpu is 1.25 so i think it may not be a very good clocker for volts.. at 4.3 we have been playing games since my last post pretty much non stop and it screams.. my 12 year old son says it is so smooth.. he's pro at ut2k4, been playing it since he was about 7.. pwn's me.. i have to turn off crossfire in that game and just run one hd4870 because the screen is all tore up when running both.. i am pretty happy with 4.3 but still wondering a little because i have never even been here before and stable..

I ran my E8400 at 4.3 for 24/7 use, I would think that 8500 of your could do 4.4 with a little tweaking.

This was on a Maximus Formulat bios but if your running a Rampage bios the settings are easily adapted

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 489
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1174
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.475
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.53
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5


http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/stable_4400.jpg

[loften]

thanks.. i am going for it right now..

[loften]

ok looks pretty good.. let it run a little over a hour.. looks like i got past my little problem in the beginning of the test.. temps went up to 61-62.. going let it run longer when i have time. here are the settings i used.. thanks for that..
extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.5
FSB Frequency : 475
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1141
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.475 bios, (1.456)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.53 bios, (1.648)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53 bios, (1.56)
DRAM Voltage : 2.08 bios, (2.208)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40 bios, (1.344)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2638/41390681.png (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=41390681.png)

[lbassa]

Hi guys , need some help , i using E85 E0 + Maximus F X38 (VID: 1.25)
450X9
want to use this for 24/7
voltgens are safe ?? :shrug:
stable with 2hrs in Prime blend

CPU PLL worries me because droop , too much high ??


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 900
DRAM Command Rate : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay :
Row Refresh Cycle Time :
Write Recovery Time :
Read to Precharge Time :

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :
Write to Read Delay (S) :
Write to Read Delay (D) :
Read to Read Delay (S) :
Read to Read Delay (D) :
Write to Write Delay (S) :
Write to Write Delay (D) :
DRAM Static Read Control: ENABLE
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : DISABLE [1]

CPU Voltage : 1.3 (real 1.28)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
North Bridge Voltage : 1.35 (real 1.38)
DRAM Voltage : 2.02
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.36 (real 1.30)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : ENABLE
CPU GTL Reference : 0,63
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0,63
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage :
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage :
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage :
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

[loften]

when i was at 420x9.5 on air stable this is what i used for volts with loadline calibration disabled.. vcore 1.26875 bios-1.232 real.. cpu pll 1.50 bios-1.623 real.. fsbt 1.30 bios-1.232 real.. south bridge 1.050 bios-1.088 real.. nb 1.51 bios-1.552.. that is all it needed at 4.0.. my nb volts needed that using 4x1 ram.. i couldn't run it any lower then 1.47 in bios or it would cause problems..

[cuke2u]

Hi, New bios ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Rampage_Formula/RAMPAGE-ASUS-Formula-0902.zip out today, not tried it yet...
Chris

[Grnfinger]

thanks for teh info

[Zucker2k]

Cory, fired up the RF yet?

Any release notes on that bios?

[Grnfinger]

Cory, fired up the RF yet?

Any release notes on that bios?

no have not had the chance too, sadly I'm waiting on the mosfet blocks still, XS member mailed them April 13th and there still not here, going to wait the rest of the week b4 I start to investigate.

[Zucker2k]

no have not had the chance too, sadly I'm waiting on the mosfet blocks still, XS member mailed them April 13th and there still not here, going to wait the rest of the week b4 I start to investigate.That's gotta suck. Hopefully it makes it by this weekend. Did he send it with tracking?

[Grnfinger]

That's gotta suck. Hopefully it makes it by this weekend. Did he send it with tracking?

none that he provided...he's a senoir member so I doubt anything fishy is up, I just would hate for the package to be lost with no insurance..I wont be out but he will be.

[absoluteczech]

hey guys, i have this board (maximus forumla)for a year now, and have 2x1gb corsair xms dominator's (ddr2 800) but i wanna get 2x2gb and im not sure what you guys recommend and if i should get 800, 1000, or 1066, etc. What do you guys recommend, i have a mild overclock of 9x400, keeping my memory 1:1 so just cpu is OC'd 600mhz.

Im thinking either muskin mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model 996599 - Retail

or mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model 996593 - Retail

or CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-8500C5D - Retail

should i stick with w/ 800 or go higher? i wouldnt mind running my fsb higher and getting my cpu @ 4gh or 3.8

[ShawnTRD]

hey guys, i have this board (maximus forumla)for a year now, and have 2x1gb corsair xms dominator's (ddr2 800) but i wanna get 2x2gb and im not sure what you guys recommend and if i should get 800, 1000, or 1066, etc. What do you guys recommend, i have a mild overclock of 9x400, keeping my memory 1:1 so just cpu is OC'd 600mhz.

Im thinking either muskin mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model 996599 - Retail

or mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model 996593 - Retail

or CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-8500C5D - Retail

should i stick with w/ 800 or go higher? i wouldnt mind running my fsb higher and getting my cpu @ 4gh or 3.8

G.SKILL - F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166

[absoluteczech]

Shawn,

Thanks for the quick reply, this may sound stupid but, I have a black & red theme going on with my WC system. Do they make that in a different color or any other ram that is black or red that you could also recommend? :cool:

edit:
found the F2-8500CL6D (there red) but timing is 6-6-6-18 :(

[ShawnTRD]

Shawn,

Thanks for the quick reply, this may sound stupid but, I have a black & red theme going on with my WC system. Do they make that in a different color or any other ram that is black or red that you could also recommend? :cool:

edit:
found the F2-8500CL6D (there red) but timing is 6-6-6-18 :(

I believe these are the same, just a different heat sink.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231246

[chew*]

Might be selling my board and chip soon guys. Just a heads up...

[ShawnTRD]

Might be selling my board and chip soon guys. Just a heads up...

What chip and how much?

[ShawnTRD]

Speaking of memory. Shouldn't I have better speeds then this?

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd247/ShawnTRD/OCing/mem.jpg

[chew*]

What chip and how much?

1.225 vid Q6600, search through the thread ;) benched 4.2 PI1M, 3d 4070, Prime 3.6 with +.075 over stock All air.

Running 450x8 24/7 right now...Sure it will kick ass with water on CPU and NB......

[OVERK|LL]

Finally got my beast of a chip at 3.6 prime stable.

It was NB temp causing my issues before. Going with the slower Kingston RAM instead of the Ballistix seems to have kept the NB temp under control.

[absoluteczech]

Speaking of memory. Shouldn't I have better speeds then this?

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd247/ShawnTRD/OCing/mem.jpg

seem slightly off... heres mine

http://img2.pict.com/be/59/94/7c79ada268690192d86f9fefc6/zMfMh/mymem.jpg

[wander_jarra]

Hi Guys,

Just noticed the Rampage Formula got new bios on Asus site.
Version 0902

Description Rampage Formula 0902 BIOS
Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=en-us
File Size 1002.14 (KBytes) 2009/05/04 update
Download from Global China P2P





Version 0803

Description Rampage Formula 0803 Bios
Improve compatibility with some Raid card
File Size 1002.84 (KBytes) 2009/02/25 update
Download from Global China P2P





Version 0701

Description Rampage Formula 0701 Bios
Fixed use 2 pieces of ATI4870X2 VGA Card can't display from Primary slot display monitor
File Size 1000 (KBytes) 2008/12/10 update
Download from Global China P2P

The last one from 04/May/2009 - WoW

And, any advice to convert ( i mean ) flash maximus formula to Rampage formula using afudos and one of those bios. The last link posted on first page was to a beta bios 0403 - that's pretty old. Any performance test with those bios ...
It's just download and flash it, or it need to be modded first, or any other thing.

Thanks a lot for your Help

[neo_rtr]

Hi Guys,

Just noticed the Rampage Formula got new bios on Asus site.
Version 0902

Description Rampage Formula 0902 BIOS
Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=en-us
File Size 1002.14 (KBytes) 2009/05/04 update
Download from Global China P2P



ASUS Rampage Formula BIOS 0902 Official
is giving people lots of problems , my self included.
So be aware

[QUOTE=A-Grey;3772724]Visit the ASUS rampage Formula forum and add your thoughts to the ASUS Rampage Formula BIOS 0902 (http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20090504152913315&board_id=1&model=Rampage+Formula&page=1&SLanguage=en-us) thread.

[QUOTE]

[lbassa]

Hey for stable my overclock whit 4X1Gb @1000Mhz i need 1.55v VNB!
I think high this voltage :S
With two modules 2X2Gb necessary lower VNB or same for 4X1Gb ???

[loften]

i ran my 2x2 @ 1.47.. a little lower then my 4x1 @ 1.51 set in bios which is about 1.55/56 real..

dang i got over night past prime blend at 4.5 with my settings. i fail occt about 1/2 hour in.. i upped the volts a little more to see if i could get occt but temps got to 77 eeeeks, turned it off.. occt is a animal, load temps 10-15 degrees higher then prime blend.. i have played games on the settings @ 4.5 all day long for days with out any crashes or noticeable problems and never see my temps get above 55 on a hot day.. i just went through 10 passes of intel burn test at the 4.38 settings 63/64 degrees no problems but at 4.5 the temps got up to 77 so i shut it off..

[Fritz_the_germ]

Yo guys,
I had some problems with my adi sounddriver soundMAX so deinstalled it.
Does anybody have a good one for my converted Rampage Formula?
Can I use the V610X6480_zip diver?:shrug:

[wander_jarra]

ASUS Rampage Formula BIOS 0902 Official
is giving people lots of problems , my self included.
So be aware

[QUOTE=A-Grey;3772724]Visit the ASUS rampage Formula forum and add your thoughts to the ASUS Rampage Formula BIOS 0902 (http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20090504152913315&board_id=1&model=Rampage+Formula&page=1&SLanguage=en-us) thread.

[QUOTE]

Thanks for info.

Btw, i've noticed your are using 0803 as described on your sig, how is it doing ? I'm still on very old beta bios. Can i update it ?!

[lbassa]

i ran my 2x2 @ 1.47.. a little lower then my 4x1 @ 1.51 set in bios which is about 1.55/56 real..

dang i got over night past prime blend at 4.5 with my settings. i fail occt about 1/2 hour in.. i upped the volts a little more to see if i could get occt but temps got to 77 eeeeks, turned it off.. occt is a animal, load temps 10-15 degrees higher then prime blend.. i have played games on the settings @ 4.5 all day long for days with out any crashes or noticeable problems and never see my temps get above 55 on a hot day.. i just went through 10 passes of intel burn test at the 4.38 settings 63/64 degrees no problems but at 4.5 the temps got up to 77 so i shut it off..

Thx for reaply, i want upgrade for 2X2Gb 1000Mhz modules , my E8500 not for betters, stable 4000Mhz only 1.28vcore :shrug:
Stable with 20loops in InteBurnTest :p: stable for me heheh

1.55 VNb noth much for 24/7 ??

[Machine#17]

i have hit a wall with my e6600 at 3.4ghz

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-850
DRAM Command Rate : 2t
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Ai Clock Twister : stronger
Transaction Booster : 7

CPU Voltage : 1.41
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.4 for 1.44 real
DRAM Voltage : 2.06 for 2.10 real
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.25
South Bridge Voltage : 1.07
Loadline Calibration : enabled
CPU GTL Reference : x63
North Bridge GTL Reference : x67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

any help to get past this would be appreciated
cpu vid is 1.35 :(
cpu is cooled by a true and stays under 56*C under load trying not to go over the recommended 1.5v vcore

[lbassa]

i have hit a wall with my e6600 at 3.4ghz

any help to get past this would be appreciated
cpu vid is 1.35 :(
cpu is cooled by a true and stays under 56*C under load trying not to go over the recommended 1.5v vcore

to increse FSB speed
try FSB Termination Voltage : 1.30~1.35
for CPU 65nn normaly is 1.30 STOCK,
remember not good exceds 1.40
CPU PLL: 1.56~1.60

E6600 needs much vcore to stable 3.6~3.8Ghz, >1.45 you need more cooling CPU for this !

:up:

[neo_rtr]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=181921
Updated Soundmax drivers v6.10.2.6520 dated 10/07/2008

[neo_rtr]

Thanks for info.

Btw, i've noticed your are using 0803 as described on your sig, how is it doing ? I'm still on very old beta bios. Can i update it ?![/QUOTE]

Yes for my self did some magic back then and i was able to OC with lower Volts.
After the 0902 trip i got issues back in 0803 but with higher volts.

go with the 0803 and i think you will be just fine

[neo_rtr]

seem slightly off... heres mine

http://img2.pict.com/be/59/94/7c79ada268690192d86f9fefc6/zMfMh/mymem.jpg


This is mine

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9627/109236405551512tbsrrt45xg7.png
By neo_rtr (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/neo_rtr) at 2008-08-14

there is a difference.. hmm..

[lbassa]

This is mine

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9627/109236405551512tbsrrt45xg7.png
By neo_rtr (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/neo_rtr) at 2008-08-14

there is a difference.. hmm..

With E85 more Write and copy in memorys and lower frequency :D

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3480/cacheandbenchamark.jpg

[neo_rtr]

With E85 more Write and copy in memorys and lower frequency :D

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3480/cacheandbenchamark.jpg

Good numbers. I think is the 8x500 that gives this extra push for the 10K number.

:)

[wander_jarra]

Thanks for info.

Btw, i've noticed your are using 0803 as described on your sig, how is it doing ? I'm still on very old beta bios. Can i update it ?!

Yes for my self did some magic back then and i was able to OC with lower Volts.
After the 0902 trip i got issues back in 0803 but with higher volts.

go with the 0803 and i think you will be just fine[/QUOTE]

Thanks for update - i'll give 0803 a try.

[lbassa]

Good numbers. I think is the 8x500 that gives this extra push for the 10K number.

:)
Thx

I sell my memorys 4X1Gb and going to buy a new Kit Memory 2X2Gb 1000Mhz

and soon go to EXTRA PUSH for 10K :up:

[neo_rtr]

trying out vista 7.. if you have any commends pls post.

[SpuTnicK]

Hello, got this problem, the mobo sets vdimm to 1.89V, when i set it 1.80V in bios. If i flash to rampage bios, will it fix this problem? Or will i be able to set lower than 1.8V?

[iTravis]

Anybody here with 8GB RAM on this motherboard? I currently have a G.Sill 2x2GB kit and thinking of getting another. What would be the odd running 4x2GB sticks as how the performance compare to 2x2GB? I have my Q6600 @3.6Ghz, will it have any effects on OC capability?

[Grnfinger]

Anybody here with 8GB RAM on this motherboard? I currently have a G.Sill 2x2GB kit and thinking of getting another. What would be the odd running 4x2GB sticks as how the performance compare to 2x2GB? I have my Q6600 @3.6Ghz, will it have any effects on OC capability?

you will not be able to overclock you ram as high, honestly unless you can justify the need for 8GBs ther is no real world benifit in running it

I can get my Dominators to 1121Mhz running 8GB's but the volts on the NB are high... my GSkills will not even run a there rated speed about 1000MHz or so b4 stability issues arrive


Hello, got this problem, the mobo sets vdimm to 1.89V, when i set it 1.80V in bios. If i flash to rampage bios, will it fix this problem? Or will i be able to set lower than 1.8V?

board overvolts dimms about .8 volts or so, rampage bios will not resolve this issue

[iTravis]

you will not be able to overclock you ram as high, honestly unless you can justify the need for 8GBs ther is no real world benifit in running it

I can get my Dominators to 1121Mhz running 8GB's but the volts on the NB are high... my GSkills will not even run a there rated speed about 1000MHz or so b4 stability issues arrive



board overvolts dimms about .8 volts or so, rampage bios will not resolve this issue

I'm pretty much done with OCing since I got my Q6600 to 3.6Ghz and I'm happy with that. I'm just wondering if I put another 2x2GB sticks in then will it have any effects on stability issue, I know it will put more pressure on the NB and all that but since I'm not gonna touch anything in the BIOS settings, I just wanna know if I can get away with it, btw I don't OC the RAM as I'm using the DDR2-1066.

Here's my current settings for Q6600:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster :Auto


CPU Voltage : 1.447 (close to 1.5)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.6
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[Grnfinger]

I'm pretty much done with OCing since I got my Q6600 to 3.6Ghz and I'm happy with that. I'm just wondering if I put another 2x2GB sticks in then will it have any effects on stability issue, I know it will put more pressure on the NB and all that but since I'm not gonna touch anything in the BIOS settings, I just wanna know if I can get away with it, btw I don't OC the RAM as I'm using the DDR2-1066.

Here's my current settings for Q6600:


You will almost certainly need more vNB
Running ram 1:1 will make getting 8GB's stable easier so I doubt you'll have much tweaking to do once you up the NB volts

[iTravis]

You will almost certainly need more vNB
Running ram 1:1 will make getting 8GB's stable easier so I doubt you'll have much tweaking to do once you up the NB volts

My NB temp is freaking hot already and I'll have to add more voltage...hm..8GB really sound tempting to me but at the same time I don't wanna run into any stability trouble either. :d Thanks Grnfinger, I'll look into it more.

[Hockster]

Anybody here with 8GB RAM on this motherboard? I currently have a G.Sill 2x2GB kit and thinking of getting another. What would be the odd running 4x2GB sticks as how the performance compare to 2x2GB? I have my Q6600 @3.6Ghz, will it have any effects on OC capability?
I've got 8GB of Mushkin 800 on my Formula SE. E8500@3.8GHz, NB only needs 1.35 volts. Temp stays around 44°C. Anything over 1.40 volts and the temps get retardedly high.

[iTravis]

I've got 8GB of Mushkin 800 on my Formula SE. E8500@3.8GHz, NB only needs 1.35 volts. Temp stays around 44°C. Anything over 1.40 volts and the temps get retardedly high.

I believe a quad need more volt on the NB than a dual in order to get it stable over time so yeh, I can't lower my NB to anything less than 1.45.

[lbassa]

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/8333/42superpi15.th.jpg (http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=42superpi15.jpg)
532X8 5-5-5-15 1066Mhz

New memory Mushkin 2X2Gb 1000Mhz XP2-8000

litle be to 10k read :stick:

Best scores only FSB: Memory 1:1,i try boot with 1100Mhz 5-5-5-15 (458X9 : 1100Mhz) 8.5K read :shrug:

[Sources]

Anyone have some good manual settings for timings for their 4 x 1024mb Ballistix Tracers 1066mhz ?

[junkun13]

help! lcd poster says "VGA BIOS" then it will automatically shutdown. I've tried other video cards but the same output displays :confused:

[Grnfinger]

help! lcd poster says "VGA BIOS" then it will automatically shutdown. I've tried other video cards but the same output displays :confused:

what changes if any have you made or has this just started on its own???

See if the card boots in another rig
PSU is 100%?? could be a failing PSU not giving enough juice to the gpu
Bios could be corrupt (doubt it) but you could do a full reset and re flash the bios.
I would look at the psu if this just started and the gpu will boot in another rig

[Sources]

help! lcd poster says "VGA BIOS" then it will automatically shutdown. I've tried other video cards but the same output displays :confused:

Also maybe try to reset your BIOS

[necrolyte]

I got this new processor Q9550 (c1) stepping with my Maximus Formula x38.

Can't even boot up with 3.7ghz. I'm not new in overclocking but this is a bit strange to me. sometimes my RAM doesn't post even on its stock frequency with exact voltage, my LCD poster is pausing at "DET DRAM". when I overclock the RAM, let say from 1066mhz to 1133mhz. it will boot up, but not in Windows.

I got feeling that this is some kind of FSB wall for paring this X38 to a 45nm processors. My friend managed to OC his Q9550 (E0) stepping to 4.4ghz stable with Prime95 torture test and 3Dmark benchmarks but he's using P45 chipset.

here are some of my overclocking screenies and links with my previous Q6600.

Q6600 @ 3.9ghz (Windows XP)
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/365822.png
CPU-Z Validation (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=365822)

Q6600 @ 3.8ghz (Windows Vista Ultimate)
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/513058.png
CPU Validation (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=513058)

also, my friend let me test his QX9650 on my Maximus Formula and here's the result

QX9650 @ 4.4ghz (Windows Vista Ultimate)
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/559797.png
CPU-Z Validation (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=559797)

I can run benchmark with 4.3ghz as well.

anyway, back to my problem, is there any way to push the clocks of this Q9550?

Thanks!

[Grnfinger]

I got this new processor Q9550 (c1) stepping with my Maximus Formula x38.

Can't even boot up with 3.7ghz. I'm not new in overclocking but this is a bit strange to me. sometimes my RAM doesn't post even on its stock frequency with exact voltage, my LCD poster is pausing at "DET DRAM". when I overclock the RAM, let say from 1066mhz to 1133mhz. it will boot up, but not in Windows.

I got feeling that this is some kind of FSB wall for paring this X38 to a 45nm processors. My friend managed to OC his Q9550 (E0) stepping to 4.4ghz stable with Prime95 torture test and 3Dmark benchmarks but he's using P45 chipset.

here are some of my overclocking screenies and links with my previous Q6600.

Q6600 @ 3.9ghz (Windows XP)
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/365822.png
CPU-Z Validation (http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=365822)

Q6600 @ 3.8ghz (Windows Vista Ultimate)


also, my friend let me test his QX9650 on my Maximus Formula and here's the result

QX9650 @ 4.4ghz (Windows Vista Ultimate)


I can run benchmark with 4.3ghz as well.

anyway, back to my problem, is there any way to push the clocks of this Q9550?

Thanks!

X38 is 45nm quad limited there a few rare boards that can clock the chip well but not many, I had the Maximus X38 and a 9550 as well sold the board cause of the wall..if you want to clock that chip higher your going to need a different board

[Per Hansson]

Asus Rampage Formula BIOS (using it on a Maximus Formula)

It has the JMicron_JMB36x_Option_ROM_v1.07.04
And Intel_Matrix_Storage_Manager_Option_ROM_v8.7.1007_ ICH10R-DO_wRAID5

I actually don't use the Intel RAID, I bought a real hardware based add-in RAID5 card but thought others might find this useful...
There are no other mods in this BIOS, only the option roms have been replaced...

http://hem.spray.se/hanzzzon/RAMPAGE-ASUS-Formula-0902-ICH10R-8.7.1007-JMB369-1.07.04.rar

[OLDcomer]

@necrolyte, flash your mobo to Rampage Formula with bios 802 and enjoy higher fsb speeds by setting CPU Skew Control to 100ps and NB Skew Control to normal. I got 483fsb stable and 496fsb win bootable.

[steve30x]

Im having trouble ith this motherboard and a Q6600. Since september last year I have this motherboard and CPU combination running @ 3.5ghz but I upgrded the bios to 0902 last week and have been having prblems since then. So I went back to bios 0803 and put all settings back to default. Then I rebooted and set my OC to the way it was and started Dual Prime95 4 instances.

I had my Q6600 G0 stable @ 3.5ghz with dual prime95 8 hours up until about 2 weeks ago when my machine became unstable. So I thought it was my bios so I upgraded to 0902 but that didnt do anything so I went back to 0803 today and it still wont pass Prime 95 for longer than 15 minutes.

Heres my current settings

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 379
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-759
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
[The rest of the ram settings are @ auto]

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : lightert
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.62
North Bridge Voltage : 1.71
DRAM Voltage : 1.86
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.56
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

My hardware

Case : Antec P190
CPU : Intell Q6600
GPU : XFX GTX280
Motherboard : Asus Maximus Formula with Rampage Formula bios installed
RAM : 6GIG Crucial 800mhz
Power Supplie(s) : 550 Watt antec for HDD's , DVD's , Watercooling and fans / 650 Watt Antec for Motherboard and GPU
Air Cooling : 200MM Side fan , 140MM Top exhaust fan , 120mm Front fan
Water Cooling : Swiftech Apogee GTZ (CPU) , XSPC 400 Compact Reservoir / Pump and 120mm Radiator
Monitor : Samsung 2433BW Max resolution 1920 x 1200

Is this a sign tat my CPU or motherboard is starting to die or is there something wrong with my settings? My CPU reaches 66 celcius after a few minutes. All cores of the CPU stay going except core 3 which fails. I run small FFS test.

[Grnfinger]

Im having trouble ith this motherboard and a Q6600. Since september last year I have this motherboard and CPU combination running @ 3.5ghz but I upgrded the bios to 0902 last week and have been having prblems since then. So I went back to bios 0803 and put all settings back to default. Then I rebooted and set my OC to the way it was and started Dual Prime95 4 instances.

I had my Q6600 G0 stable @ 3.5ghz with dual prime95 8 hours up until about 2 weeks ago when my machine became unstable. So I thought it was my bios so I upgraded to 0902 but that didnt do anything so I went back to 0803 today and it still wont pass Prime 95 for longer than 15 minutes.

Heres my current settings

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 379
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-759
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
[The rest of the ram settings are @ auto]

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : lightert
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.62
North Bridge Voltage : 1.71
DRAM Voltage : 1.86
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.56
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

My hardware

Case : Antec P190
CPU : Intell Q6600
GPU : XFX GTX280
Motherboard : Asus Maximus Formula with Rampage Formula bios installed
RAM : 6GIG Crucial 800mhz
Power Supplie(s) : 550 Watt antec for HDD's , DVD's , Watercooling and fans / 650 Watt Antec for Motherboard and GPU
Air Cooling : 200MM Side fan , 140MM Top exhaust fan , 120mm Front fan
Water Cooling : Swiftech Apogee GTZ (CPU) , XSPC 400 Compact Reservoir / Pump and 120mm Radiator
Monitor : Samsung 2433BW Max resolution 1920 x 1200

Is this a sign tat my CPU or motherboard is starting to die or is there something wrong with my settings? My CPU reaches 66 celcius after a few minutes. All cores of the CPU stay going except core 3 which fails. I run small FFS test.

What prime FFS test are you failing ???
Why so much NB volts??? seems excessive for the clock is all...

[loften]

i think my bios got corrupted.. not sure but the other day i got det ram when starting up after off all day.. once i finally get it to come on it f1 screens me with stock settings then i can go into bios straight to exit bios and it fires right up like nothing happened.. i tried clearing c-mos, removing battery and also lowering my oc back down to stock.. after i got home today it wouldn't come on. det. ram again. i removed all ram and started with a stick to get it to f1 screened me again so i could get in and out of the bios to get it to start.. i think it is forgetting my memory voltage or something,, i don't know.. stupid thing.. anyone have this happen before? it has been solid for months and months until this.. the only thing that has changed is that we installed crysis and steam a day before it started..

[loften]

i think i figured it out.. 2 sticks of memory took a dump..

[steve30x]

What prime FFS test are you failing ???
Why so much NB volts??? seems excessive for the clock is all...

I set it to small ffs. Ill try lowering nb voltage a bit. What would you recomend? Anyway I got the CPU stable @ 3.3ghz. anything higher and it fails Prime95 on core 3.

[ShawnTRD]

Hey Grnfinger

Do you still recommend these settings?
Running Q6700 on Air
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC2 8500 - F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK



My 450x8 settings OCCT and Prime stable

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400MHZ
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1199
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.55
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

[Grnfinger]

yeah but you'll need to run thoes G-Skills at 1081MHz they will never do 1200MHz other than that it should work just fine

[SpuTnicK]

Has anyone used ocz2b1200lv4gk kit together with this mobo?
How good they work together?

[steve30x]

Whats the best bios for this motherboard? Im running a Q6600 but the last 3 bioses make my CPU run hot.

[Grnfinger]

Rampage bios 308 is best for bandwidth, 803 is stable and a decent bios

[gugle]

Hello, I wonder if the Asus Rampage Formula goes well with Q9550?
which the maximum FSB with Q9550?

thanks

[steve30x]

Rampage bios 308 is best for bandwidth, 803 is stable and a decent bios
Thank you. I have been using the rampage bios since I got the motherboard. Rampage bios 0802 , 0803 and 0902 seem to be making my CPU run hotter than normal. So I will try 308.

[ShawnTRD]

Thank you. I have been using the rampage bios since I got the motherboard. Rampage bios 0802 , 0803 and 0902 seem to be making my CPU run hotter than normal. So I will try 308.

What do you call hot? And what are your BIOS settings?

[Grnfinger]

What do you call hot? And what are your BIOS settings?

his sig makes reference to bios 410 that was a disaster for a bios iirc, he should be using the 803 or better imo

[steve30x]

I call hot 40 celcius idle and 71 celcius 100% load hot. Also my bios settings are @ http://www.xtremesystems.org/FORUMS/showpost.php?p=3846891&postcount=8348 I lowered the NB voltage to 1.61 (Dont realy know what the correct NB voltage is). Ive installed Rampage bios 308 and my temps in idle went down to 34 idle and 67 100% load at 3.4ghz.


his sig makes reference to bios 410 that was a disaster for a bios iirc, he should be using the 803 or better imo

http://www.xtremesystems.org/FORUMS/showpost.php?p=3874474&postcount=8359 <= open your eyes

[ShawnTRD]

yeah that seem high. I would try lowering you CPU, and CPU PLL Voltages until unstable. Whats your water temp running at? What are you using to read your Temps? Try Everest http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?ps=UE&lang=en&page=48

My Idle temps (but I'm only at 3.2 on air (400 X 8, DDR1066)

Temperatures
Motherboard 29 °C (84 °F)
CPU 22 °C (72 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 26 °C (79 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 26 °C (79 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 20 °C (68 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 21 °C (70 °F)
North Bridge 37 °C (99 °F)
South Bridge 35 °C (95 °F)
GPU Diode 37 °C (99 °F)
SAMSUNG HD103UJ 26 °C (79 °F)
WDC WD2500KS 56 °C (133 °F)

Cooling Fans
CPU 2163 RPM
Chassis #2 2344 RPM
Chassis #3 2207 RPM

Voltage Values
CPU Core 1.32 V
+3.3 V 3.26 V
+5 V 4.92 V
+12 V 12.10 V
+5 V Standby 4.95 V
FSB VTT 1.41 V
North Bridge Core 1.39 V
South Bridge Core 1.07 V
South Bridge PLL 1.54 V
DIMM 2.11 V
DIMM VTT 1.06 V

[steve30x]

I dont have any way of reading the water temperatures but the rad does get very warm (More than usual) and I am using Real Temp for reading temperatures of the CPU. I might be going back to my Asus Crosshair motherboard soon though.

Also the motherboard has some bad droop. I have the CPU set to 1.425v and in CPUZ its showing 1.408 but when I run Dual prime95 the Voltage drops to 1.385v. Bu when I enable Load Line Calibration the voltage seems to stay the same. With Load Line Calibration turned on the temperatures are hih but with it disabled the temperatures are 4 - 6 degrees celcius lower.

I have been trying to get the CPU stable at 3.5ghz again where it was good with 1.45v and a max temperature of 65 celcius but now the CPU is'nt stable with the same settings.

[ShawnTRD]

Real Temp does read my CPU 10C hotter then Everest. Others on here told me that Everest is better for 65nm CPU's


Everest likely takes IHS temps, where Real Temp takes readings directly from the core.


Everest reads core temp DTS's too.
It just uses a different TJmax.

Looks like Everest is using a 10C lower TJmax than realtemp.


everest is proper for 65nm, it has the 90c tjmax for the g0 and thats the correct one real temp is wrong


4.60 isnt that old its 2 months if that, it has the right setting, real temp isnt right for 65nm

[steve30x]

Are you sure you calibrated real temp properly? Also if its the TJmax is wrong you can change that in Real temp also.

[Grnfinger]

I call hot 40 celcius idle and 71 celcius 100% load hot. Also my bios settings are @ http://www.xtremesystems.org/FORUMS/showpost.php?p=3846891&postcount=8348 I lowered the NB voltage to 1.61 (Dont realy know what the correct NB voltage is). Ive installed Rampage bios 308 and my temps in idle went down to 34 idle and 67 100% load at 3.4ghz.



http://www.xtremesystems.org/FORUMS/showpost.php?p=3874474&postcount=8359 <= open your eyes

When you dont bother to update your sig how is this my fault??
I read alot of posts in a day its hard to remember everything a simple im running w/e bios and update your sig would be all thats required, regardless of what bios your running the chip is still the same temp so if false numbers are what your after just off set the tjmax to what ever value you wish your chip to run at...
Realtemp and everest will show the same temps when the tjmax is set properly, if you still have a 120 rad on your quad and your still pumping 1.45vcore you might want to grab a 220 as the 120 rad might be a tad weak for teh job, load line calibration is best to leave enabled it is very hard to get cpu stable without it.


This was done on bios 308 with a Q6700 so you should be able to adapt the settings easy

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/6700.png

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081

CLOCK SKEW Normal both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : whatever your cpu needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.02
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.32
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[steve30x]

Ok sorry about that. Anyway I have TJ max set to 90 in real temp and its showing 1 degree celcius lower than Everest. I have lowered all the voltages and set load line calibration to enabled. Currently I have the CPU set to 1.4125 in the bios when CPUZ and Everest are showing the CPU voltage to be 1.40v. also the temperatures are about 10 celcius lower. Im not sure if its stable yet because I have the computer running Prime95 small FFS now for about 10 minutes now. Its still running as of now.

Also I have never touched the most of the ram timings except the timings that set it to 5-5-5-15. I am unsure what all those other ram settings do.

[Grnfinger]

Ok sorry about that. Anyway I have TJ max set to 90 in real temp and its showing 1 degree celcius lower than Everest. I have lowered all the voltages and set load line calibration to enabled. Currently I have the CPU set to 1.4125 in the bios when CPUZ and Everest are showing the CPU voltage to be 1.40v. also the temperatures are about 10 celcius lower. Im not sure if its stable yet because I have the computer running Prime95 small FFS now for about 10 minutes now. Its still running as of now.

Also I have never touched the most of the ram timings except the timings that set it to 5-5-5-15. I am unsure what all those other ram settings do.

Ram timing can be a real pain get your cpu stable first then worry about ram sub timing...keep us posetd on your results

[steve30x]

Its still failing @ 3.5ghz even when I have the voltage at 1.45 in the bios (but CPUZ and Everest reports 1.42v) Also the temps are staying below 60 celcius now. Im at 3.4ghz stable now with your voltage settings and 58 celcius with 100% load.

[Grnfinger]

Its still failing @ 3.5ghz even when I have the voltage at 1.45 in the bios (but CPUZ and Everest reports 1.42v) Also the temps are staying below 60 celcius now. Im at 3.4ghz stable now with your voltage settings and 58 celcius with 100% load.

very good, depending on how your chip scales you might need alot of volts take the vCore to 1.50 in the bios ( 1.50volts for 65nm cpu is ok) and up the FSB to 438 if it goes try 450...try to keep the cpu under 65c

[steve30x]

Cant do that tonight. I installed windows 7 Build 7264 and its too late in the night to reinstall everything so Ill continue later tomorrow. BTW I used your ram timings and it seems to make things run a lot faster.

[Grnfinger]

the ram timings will help a lot....

Windows 7 will make your rig fly I like it and have been using it 24/7 since the RC was launched..dont be too concerned with running 1.50vcore on that chip as long as your temps stay in check the cpu will be fine, depending on what IC's you have on your cell shock that ram will do amazing things and will be alot of fun tweaking it to the maximum.
keep us posted on your results :up:

[steve30x]

I dont have anything installed in windows 7 but I am pretty sure I have the CPU on its limit until I change my watercooling kir. I can get it to post with 438 x 9 1.5v bios but it wont boot into windows. 420x9 wont boot into. I now have it @ 3.6ghz with 1.4875v in bios showing 1.47v with everest and CPUz running 100% @ 64 celcius.

I dare not push the CPU any further because my watercooling kit isnt up to it. Im planning on having a watercooling kit built into a case for me ASAP with a 240rad for the CPU. Even at that I think I have hit the limit of the CPU. My Q6600 G0 has always needed a lot of juice to OC.

Going to leave Prime95 run overnight and see if its stable @ 3.6ghz. Its 1am here so im off to bed. Will report back tomorrow.

BTW Would it be a good idea to buy a Q9650?

PS. I have been using indows 7 since 6801. Have installed many leaked builds since. 7264 no longer accepts RC keys. Windows 7 is fantastic.

[steve30x]

It fails at 3.5ghz still. Im gone back 3.4ghz. Im just goin to have to stick with 3.4ghz for now. It failed @3.6ghz after an hour and I left it run prime95 overnight @3.5ghz but it failed.

[Grnfinger]

post your setup for 3.5GHz maybe your just missing something

[steve30x]

Its the same as the settings you posted but I lowered the voltage in the bios to 1.487. It fails prime95 after an hour with 1.5v

[EDIT] I take it theres very few people with this motherboard now

[Grnfinger]

Its the same as the settings you posted but I lowered the voltage in the bios to 1.487. It fails prime95 after an hour with 1.5v

[EDIT] I take it theres very few people with this motherboard now

Most have moved on, I have the board on my shelf in the basement for a spare if I should need it...

Tweaking GTL's might get a 100 or 200 more MHz out of that chip but you'll need to decide if its worth the effort..X38 boards seem to be 45nm quad core limited you will find the odd board that will prove me worng but you wont find many...my Maximus X38 could only run a Q9550 and a Q9650 to 425FSB on any multi, I'll hunt up my old profiles for 3.6GHz and a few other templates to try it might help get you a little higher

[OLDcomer]

..X38 boards seem to be 45nm quad core limited you will find the odd board that will prove me worng but you wont find many...my Maximus X38 could only run a Q9550 and a Q9650 to 425FSB on any multi..

Q9550 C1 P5E X38 8.5x483

Prime95 Blend

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6408/q9550blend.th.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/i/q9550blend.jpg/)


IBT

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9476/q9550.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/i/q9550.jpg/)

[mooch49]

i just got this board and paired it with a 8400. i am using the stock cooling. i just want to overclock to a 3.4. can i do that with little problem. if so, can you give me some of the settings for cpu voltage, fsb termination, north bridge, etc. thanks

[steve30x]

You will need to change the cooler to be able OC. The stock cooler wont cool the CPU enough when its overclocked.

[Grnfinger]

i just got this board and paired it with a 8400. i am using the stock cooling. i just want to overclock to a 3.4. can i do that with little problem. if so, can you give me some of the settings for cpu voltage, fsb termination, north bridge, etc. thanks

8x425 would be the best combination for your chip, if you have a decent chip it should do ok on the stock cooler but will run on the warm side steve30x is correct and you should invest in a better cooler.
378x9 will work but not as good for bandwidth as 425x8

[loften]

i think the stock 45nm coolers have no copper in the heat sink like the 65nm coolers have.. since the 45nm cpu runs at lower volts i think they figured they don't need any copper to cool it.. so if you have one laying around from a 65nm cpu with copper, it may work fine for that mild oc. i would just get a decent cooler for it though.. another thing i would do put a fan on the the north bridge heat sink. if it is the se with water block, i removed my water block and made up a regular heat sink with a small fan.. it made a huge difference in temps on my north bridge and in the entire area around it.. including my ram temps.. i am on water on my e8500 and north now so it doesn't have any heat issues other then at 4.5 with my ram at 1141 i fried 2 sticks before i put a fan over them.. i plan on keeping this board for a while.. i am going to try to get a set of g.skill 1200 for it to see how it does and may get a gigabyte ga ep45 to play with. especially after seeing the oc's with lower volts and temps in the gigabyte thread but i don't plan on upgrading to i7 maybe upgrade to a amd and x4 if i do upgrade.. i don't know if i am missing anything by not upgrading but i kind of like this board..

[ShawnTRD]

Ok haven't had a RAID setup sense getting did of my two Raptor 74's. So now I have two WD2000JS (200GB SATA) drives. And when I try to enable RAID in the BIOS I can't get past the USB detection of the bootup. I think it's hanging before reading SATA drives. Am I doing something wrong?

[askimo]

Q9550 C1 P5E X38 8.5x483

Prime95 Blend

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6408/q9550blend.th.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/i/q9550blend.jpg/)


IBT

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9476/q9550.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/i/q9550.jpg/)

Awesome OC considering that you are using X38.

Are you using water cooling?

[OLDcomer]

Awesome OC considering that you are using X38.

Are you using water cooling?

No. Just Xigmatek HDT-S1283 with two push-pull fans for the CPU and one 70mm fan for the northbridge.

[ShawnTRD]

No. Just Xigmatek HDT-S1283 with two push-pull fans for the CPU and one 70mm fan for the northbridge.

I have a 40mm fan for the northbridge. Can you take a picture to show me how you fit a 70MM fan?

[OLDcomer]

I have a 40mm fan for the northbridge. Can you take a picture to show me how you fit a 70MM fan?

It fited perfectly between the cpu cooler and the video card after I sealed it with plastic foam to absorb vibrations.

http://www.picvalley.net/u/1988/1265831731199301733.JPG

[loften]

how do you like those g.skills? i have been thinking about picking up the 2x2GB pc9600 to try out..

[OLDcomer]

how do you like those g.skills? i have been thinking about picking up the 2x2GB pc9600 to try out..

You'd better try some ocz blades at more reasonable price.

[loften]

i was tossing up the two, the ocz 9600 are out of stock and after reading the elpida graveyard thread i wonder if those blades have the same elpida chips?? maybe wait and see if anyone reports any dead ones or hope the g.skills come down in price like everything does right after i buy it..

[Commander_HK47]

hey guys,

Its been a while since i was last on. Had some issues resting my password after forgetting it...

Anyways i am still playing around with this board.

I have a goal of taking the cpu to 4Ghz~ with the memory at 1200Mhz, yet still remaining stable.
It seems that after about 400mhz FSB, that i need to start droping my memory speed down to be able to boot.

I was wondering what steps i should take to get my north bridge capable to handle the same memory speed at FSB speeds higher than 400MHZ.

I have test the system with Intel Burn test at the higher FSB/lower Memory speed and Intel burn test says it passes, i would just like to run the memory at the speeds it rated at.


System is in sig.

[faithful10]

I am running 533 mhz FSB with 4 sticks of kingston hyperx pc8500 cl 5 mem.

i'm using 8 multiplier so that gives me 8*533= 4264 mhz.

Using rampage bios 0601

Here is my everest mem benchmark:

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4554/533ram.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/i/533ram.jpg/)

[JH_man]

I am trying to further OC my Q6600 on this board (fine tuning settings at 3.52 ghz now), and got some questions:
1) If I lower the ram fsb strap from 400 to 333 mhz, do that put less strain on the nb? And if so can I lower the volt a bit? It looks to me NB temps is lower when running 333 strap...

2) What is a safe 24/7 OC of a q9550 on this board?

3) Anyone have a odd temp read from nb/sb on this board with everest v4? Not tried v5 yet. The earlier version I had it said about 45 degrees C, after I changed to a newer version it says usually 50+, and when OCing OCCT testing close to 60 C.

JH_man

[JH_man]

4) Is there a problem running the Ballistix 2x2gb 8500 set in command rate 1 on this board?.. If not what settings are adviced?

JH_man

[JH_man]

I found this on asus boards from a guy there, is it correct?
"
Maximus Formula needs stock 1.25 voltage on NB to run 2 x 1GB DDR2 800 at 4-4-4-12 timings and needs 1.45 volts to run 4 x 1 GB DDR2 800 at 4-4-4-12.

When you set DDR2 800 at 5-5-5-15 at 2.2 volts, its more likely that you get errors because of unneeded voltage. DDR2 800 5-5-5-15 doesn't need 2.2 volts at all. It will work better (and more likely flawlessly) with about 1.9-2.0 volts or even lower.
I.E. never set voltage more than needed on RAM modules, otherwise it is the best way for errors and system instabilities.

Also Crusial Ballistix uses Micron D9 memory modules, which can work at 3-3-3-8/9 at DDR2 800 and 4-4-4-12/15 at DDR2-1066 flawlessly, so try to tighten your timings a bit more.

I have tested myself OCZ Reaper HPC PC-8500 and Crucial Balistixs on my Maximus Formula (both Micron D9s) and they worked flawlessly with correct voltage and correct settings.
"

JH_man

[loften]

i think they are not supported by the mobo and many people had issues with the newer crucial ram.... my crucial double sided 4x1 8500's ran error free at rated specs and volts.. they ran at 1141 for about 4 months then i water cooled the cpu and nb and didn't put a fan back over them and fried 2 sticks.. my nb had a fan that was offset a little and it cooled the memory.. now i only have 2 sticks in with a fan over them still running.. i tried 4,4,4,12 - 4,4,4,15 and i couldn't get them to be error free.. 5,5,5,15 ran error free at 1066 with rated volts but as soon as i started overclocking them i had to go to 5,5,5,18 at rated volts to get them to not error.. it could have been me being a rookie and or other settings like ai/performance level stuff but i tried..

[Grnfinger]

Crucial ram and the Maximus are not compatible this topic has been beaten to death, also OCZ is not the best choice fort his board...I know its a long thread but there is a search button.
60c for your NB is not a good thing, you should look and remounting the NB heatsink with some better TIM, and no one can cay what volts your NB needs every board will be different depending on FSB ,divider and ram speed so wherever you got that info you should toss it out...

[JH_man]

Right now I am trying to get my current rig 100% stable, but the problem is the NB it looks like. I have to run 1.51volt in bios/1.54volt in everest, and the NB gets very hot (everest says close to 60 C under heavy load and hot inside but dont know if I can trust it, see above for more info about this), and it looks like that is the reason for hangups.

The FSB is set to 400 strap, ram is running at 880 at 5-5-5-15. In OCCT is stable, normal PI has been stable at all clocks, extremesystems PI is unstable and has been so for all OCs over 3.2ghz I have tried, CoD4 is stable but after 3-4 hours of Lotro (it stresses the NB ALOT) it hang. I uped the CPU volt to 1.45625 and rest of the night it was stable, but also it got colder in the room so not easy to say if it really helped or not.

What I need to know is what stresses the NB the most? Do low ram timings stress it more the high? Do the strap to FSB mzh have impact, will 333 stress it less then 400 strap? etc... I need to stress the NB as little as I can without going down too much in OC.

If I have to start to refit the chipset coolers etc to get it to be stable, I am considering jumping over to a i7 or Phenom II rig...

The machine has been rock solid at 3.2ghz for about 19 months at low volts all over. It boggles me uping the fsb just 40mzh (400 -> 440) should make it soo much harder to get it stable.

Can it be the ram that for some reason create these problems? Can they cause the NB to 'overheat'?..

JH_man

[Grnfinger]

Your overclock is a modest one and running 1:1 should not tax the NB to hard.
I would run the ram through 3 passes of memtest on your current overclock to rule out bad dimms if you get errors try stock speed settings and re test.
If your still running bios 401 might I suggest running something a little more recent

[JH_man]

I am running the latest one, 1302.

Yes, the ram may be a problem, extreme system PI as I said have been very unstable since I started OCing over 3.2ghz, but the noraml PI is working every time. At the settings I were running last night also extremesystems PI were very stable.

When I tried to lower the volt on the NB it hung the comp after just a few mins of Lotro. So it looks to me I cannot get the comp to run lower volt on NB. If its the ram that is the problem comp should not hang after lowering NB volt right?

JH_man

[Grnfinger]

I am running the latest one, 1302.

Yes, the ram may be a problem, extreme system PI as I said have been very unstable since I started OCing over 3.2ghz, but the noraml PI is working every time. At the settings I were running last night also extremesystems PI were very stable.

When I tried to lower the volt on the NB it hung the comp after just a few mins of Lotro. So it looks to me I cannot get the comp to run lower volt on NB. If its the ram that is the problem comp should not hang after lowering NB volt right?

JH_man

yes and no the MCH will affect the ram stability when lowering the volts generally you will get hard locks when stressing the rig..temps and volts are huge factor here..take your PL from 7 to 8 or 9 to reduce NB stress.
I think your best options are to try and add a fan on the NB , test your dimms with memtest both overclocked and stock...50-55c load seems to be where ppl start to see instability on the NB....if it was stable but its now unstable ans there has been no change it has to be heat or bad ram if the cpu is stable..you could also check carefully around the dimm slot area for swollen/fat capacitors, if you see any its RMA time for your board.

[JH_man]

Is this the ramtest you are talking about? http://www.memtest.org/#downiso

[pet168]

using 1207 bios

my highest OC so far..

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/599754.png

[JH_man]

If I were to try running the machine with another (2 dims) set og ram, would this be good on this board? Corsair Dominator TWIN2X PC8500 4GB DDR2 Kit w/2x 2GB XMS2-8500 dimm's, CL5-5-5-15, 1066MHz, E.P.P, DHX
http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=360396

[Grnfinger]

The Dominators work very well on this board

Memtest >>>> http://www.memtest86.com/memtest86-3.5.iso.zip
burn the ISO to cd and boot from your CD/DVD drive let it run for 3 passes, errors can be found after 1 or 2 passes

[Hockster]

I'm running 8GB of Mushkin on my board, no issues at all with it.

http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/memory_detail.asp?id=661

[Grnfinger]

I'm running 8GB of Mushkin on my board, no issues at all with it.

http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/memory_detail.asp?id=661

I have a 2x2GB kit there not bad at all the XP2's will do 1200MHz with a little effort

[Per Hansson]

Hi, what memory do you recommend for the Maximus Formula with Rampage Formula BIOS Conversion?

I'm currently running 2x OCZ DDR2 PC2-6400 SLI-Ready Edition 4GB Dual Channel memory (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_6400_sli_ready_edition_4gb_dual_chann el) kits
I am running it at a Performance Level of 8 with a 1:1 FSB of 400Mhz and DDR2-800

But if the memory could do CAS 3 at DDR2-800 then I could hopefully lower the "Performance Level" on my Rampage Formula to 6 I think...
Or if it could even do CAS 4 at DDR2-1000 then I should be able to reach "Performance Level" of 5

So I am looking for memory capable of that, these two kits have good prices in Sweden, I will like now run 2 kits for 8GB total...
OCZ DDR2 PC2-8500 Reaper HPC 4GB Edition
OCZ DDR2 PC2-9200 Reaper HPC 4GB Edition

Would you recommend these or any other for this mobo?

EDIT; The OCZ PC2-9600 Low-Voltage Blade Series (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=227666), OCZ2B1200LV4GK looks absolutely awsome, very good price too, anyone with experience with these on MF or RF and lower timings?

[3dsag3]

using 1207 bios

my highest OC so far..

http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/599754.png

What kind of Voltage settings did you use for that?
I cant seem to get past 3.8GHZ on my x3220 "B3" stepping.

So far this is my p95 stable settings.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/esi-slowboy/cpuid.png

[Grnfinger]

Hi, what memory do you recommend for the Maximus Formula with Rampage Formula BIOS Conversion?

I'm currently running 2x OCZ DDR2 PC2-6400 SLI-Ready Edition 4GB Dual Channel memory (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_6400_sli_ready_edition_4gb_dual_chann el) kits
I am running it at a Performance Level of 8 with a 1:1 FSB of 400Mhz and DDR2-800

But if the memory could do CAS 3 at DDR2-800 then I could hopefully lower the "Performance Level" on my Rampage Formula to 6 I think...
Or if it could even do CAS 4 at DDR2-1000 then I should be able to reach "Performance Level" of 5

So I am looking for memory capable of that, these two kits have good prices in Sweden, I will like now run 2 kits for 8GB total...
OCZ DDR2 PC2-8500 Reaper HPC 4GB Edition
OCZ DDR2 PC2-9200 Reaper HPC 4GB Edition

Would you recommend these or any other for this mobo?

EDIT; The OCZ PC2-9600 Low-Voltage Blade Series (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=227666), OCZ2B1200LV4GK looks absolutely awsome, very good price too, anyone with experience with these on MF or RF and lower timings?

From my experience OCZ do not play well with this board, you need to relax the timing a lot to get things stable on high FSB so the bandwidth takes a hit
The 9200 kits is pretty good on P45 and if your set on OCZ then thats the kit I would grab
Older vers of Corsair Dominators would be a better choice if you can find them vers 1.1 or 1.2 were the best and worked very well with the board.



http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/TEST4_505.png

[Larvitar]

I can use recent versions of the BIOS Rampage Formula in P5E without problems? For example, the 0902?

[Shiranui Gen-An]

I'm trying to reach 600FSB with my E8500 and Zucker's settings aren't cutting it. I'm guessing VTT and GTL REF are key, should I need more than 1.35VTT real? Should CPU GTL be set to 0.63x as per specs or should I try higher? NB GTL? Zucker only needed 1.58 VMCH but I've seen others go as high as 1.71 VMCH. Lots of factors here, just looking for some settings for other people that have reached the plateau to give me an idea of where to get started. I know I probably won't be able to use someone else's setting exactly but it'd be a launching point.

[19*12 gamer]

Hey guys,

I just received my Q9550 E0, after getting my E8400 to 4.55Ghz on 1.48v with all of your help I am back to report how this oc is going.

So far voltage isnt great at all, 1.30 volt idle and 1.256v stressed on stock speed. (worst ever? lol)

Strange enough this chip does 425FSB without any other changes then disabling static read control and both spread spectrum settings.

Any opinions on how far I will get? (I have a s-1283 aircooler with very old, recycled paste so will get better temps later)

I should be able to cool to +- 1.4v.

[19*12 gamer]

Ok, seems the chip aint 2 bad, yesterday I got it to 444x8.5 on just about the same voltage; 1.26v stressed/1.320v idle. I cant go higher because the other dividers (fsb/mem) suck at overclocking.
In my experience the only good ones r 333 and 400 strap, the other suck for me, dont no why.
(for example: If I run my mem under spec or wayyyy under spec its not stable on 3.9Ghz even tho 3.8 is stable as a rock... Exact same problem as with my E8400.)

My guestion now is; whats the fastest ram going in the maximus formula? I have DDR2-8500 dominators now but I need about 1200Mhz I think to get 500FSB on the same strap.

But the maximus is rated for 1066Mhz ram, can it handle 1200Mhz? which is best/ most compatible with the maximus?

Thanks in advance

[19*12 gamer]

Is OCZ Blade Low-Voltage OCZ2B1150LV4GK good for maximus formula? Or will it stress the mem controller to much? (Its rated 1.85volt)

[ShawnTRD]

I would think those Dominators are good. I think there other better to answer this though (Grnfinger). I'm thinking I have heard the 45NM Chips (Q9550) don't play well over 425 or 450 on this board. Might want to think about a different MB.

[19*12 gamer]

Is that FSB wall only with quads? Cuz my E8400 runs fine on 533*8 (4.55Ghz) on 1:1 divider :(
I thought 500 would be easy as the highest boot for the E8400 was 550FSB or sumtin...

I'm not getting a new mobo for S775, then ill get a 1156 and a Corei5 and get it to 4.5+ghz xD

EDIT:VID is bad after all

[19*12 gamer]

I cant get passed 455FSB stable under 1.280 vcore stressed.

GTL settings on my mobo r kinda lame, cuz Maximus Formula only has 4 options for cpugtl: (I have bios 0701 from rampage formula, should I get the latest 1?)
0.62x (no POST), 0.63x (no POST), 0.65x (no Boot), 0.67x (OK)
And for the NB 8 options, but all settings lower then 0.63x is unstable en doesnt let windows boot. (only remaining setting is 0.67x)

This is what's breaking my head:
I can boot and stress mildly (IBT 512mb) @ 470FSB with;
cpuv;1.375 / 1.280 (all variations are less stable)
pl:1.52 bios, reads 1.60 (all variations are less stable)
nbv;1.61 ( (lower volts here is less stable, higher no effect))
FSBTv;1.36 / 1.26 (1.36/1.38 seems best here, higher, lower bad effect)
nbgtl;0.63 cpugtl;0.67 (c above)
Common performance level:10/9 (444FSB can go on 7 stable)
940Mhz +5-5-5-18 2.1v!! <-- This is what I do not understand, why does my RAM need so much volts? Is the NB to stressed?

940Mhz +5-5-5-15 2.1v <--This is lower then spec = no boot windows

Ram spec: 1066+5-5-5-15/2.1v of 1066+5-5-5-18/1.8v standaard


Or IS the the absolut limit? Temps are good, NB 40 stressed, CPU about 60.

btw, Ik have Corsair XMS2 ram. (and raising volts didnt help anymore after 2.1)

[19*12 gamer]

Got it. :D

It was the Load Line Calibration, that needed to be enabled this time. Weird cuz on 444FSB it had to be on auto and on 455FSB it had to be disabled.

So now I have 470FSB looking stable, only it gets 2 hot so I cant stress harder :( (71degrees with IBT max stress 1x, 69degrees when 10x512mb IBT stress)

I made it with these settings:
8.5x477FSB
Strap:AUTO
DDR2-941MHZ 5-5-5-18 @ 2.0v
static read control: disabled
AI Clock Twister:auto
AI Transaction Booster:auto
CPU:1.350v bios / 1.336 cpuz load and idle(still lowering, not done finetuning)
PLL:1.52v bios / 1.600 real
NB:1.61v bios / 1.616 real
FSBT:1.38v bios / 1.280 real
both GTL and Skew settings are set to auto.

EDIT:OCCT large data set still gives error after 30 min :( I did set the ram back to spec: 5-5-5-15@2.1v. CPUv had to e increased to 1.368 as well....

[19*12 gamer]

Now Im really close to 100% stable :D
OCCT ran for an hour larga data set and IBT ran max as always. My quess about the ram was right, didnt change much in the end:

Strap:AUTO
DDR2-940 MHZ 5-5-5-18 @ 1.8 v bios / 1.878 real
static read control: disabled
AI Clock Twister:auto (tweaking this after max FSB is found)
AI Transaction Booster:auto
CPU:1.368v bios / 1.352 cpuz load and idle
PLL:1.52v bios / 1.600 real
NB:1.61v bios / 1.616 real
FSBT:1.38v bios / 1.280 real
both GTL and Skew settings are set to auto.
(maybe now I can finetune these and get lower vcore)

OCCT is running for 100 minutes now, I guess its time to go higher FSB xD

http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/2717904_n1aql/4GHZSTABLEsmall.jpg

[19*12 gamer]

Thanks for the settings grnfinger! (only saw your mess today so Ill test it this evening and report back this evening)

Just wanted to say that I really love xtremesystems, especially the forums, you guys know so much I never stop learning and I really appreciate the effort+info!

Best achieved yesterday was 490*8.5 bootable and light stressable, Intel Burn Test 5x 512m = 40%, starting to get there...

Yesterday I got error in OCCT all of a sudden, but I got it stable for 6+ Hours now:
changed:
strap:333 and CPUSkew:delay 100pico and NBskew:normal

[kogeltje]

http://i29.tinypic.com/kbsqxh.jpg

Mine :D on a P5E with RF bios 0403

[ShawnTRD]

Anyone still sporting a Q6600 or Q6700?

[ShArKo]

Hello boys!!!

Well I got a problem with my OC.

My rig:

E8400
Maximus Formula x38 (BIOS 1302)
2x2GB G.Skill Pi Edition 1000Mhz
XFX8800GTS (G92)
PSU Powercooler 850W

Cooling system: Swiftech Apex ultra h2o + MCW60

My problem is that I can´t get a stable OC, I think that my problem is the ram. Because I run a Orthos thread for more than 3 hours and was rock solid (Just stress the CPU, NO RAM).

The CPU 8400 is now at 3.6Ghz with 1.296 - 1.304 Vcore in CPU-Z.
Im running my system a 1:1 and my FSB is 400MHZ.
My temp are ok in full load I get 50ºc.
The thing is wen I stress the ram I get a blue screan and a reboot, olso wen I play a game I get a blue screen.
What Im doing wrong?
The Vdimm is 2.08
CPU PLL: 1.52
NB Volt: 1.47



Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 9
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : 2
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay :5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime :15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLE
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.31250
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41
DRAM Voltage : 2.08
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.32
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : ENABLE
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : AUTO

That Im doing wrong??? :shakes::shakes:

[ShawnTRD]

What BIOS you using?
If you run at stock setting exept for the RAM Voltage (you should always set it) will it still blue screen? Try testing your RAM with Memtest86. If it fails pull on stick out and try it. Then try the other stick. Only one should be bad. If both are bad see if someone else can test them in there system. And/Or try different slots.

Memtest86
http://www.memtest.org/#downiso

[ShArKo]

I already try the memtest86 and I get 0 errors....

My actual bios is 1320 and I change some settings, no all. Some I let it on AUTO!!!!

[ShawnTRD]

Try changing "FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO" to 333 or 400, and set your DRAM Frequency to no higher then 1066.

[19*12 gamer]

@ShArKo;
My E8400 E0 needed almost no changing settings for 400FSB on my maximus Formula, but I did flash it to Rampage formula using XS forum. (It has a bad vid and I got it to 533FSB stable with latest rampage bios)

I would suggest setting your ram to spec and note that the maximus overvolts most ram by 0.8 volts, so check the reads in hardware monitor in the bios to set them correctly.

The gtl settings werent needed untill 450-480 fsb, so I suggest you leave them auto for this small oc.

GTLS-> both auto (cpu shouldnt need tuning till higher fsb)
NB -> try to 1.49
Ram -> set to spec (say spec is 1000mhz 5-5-5-15@2.1v, you set 1000mhz 2.02v ; reads +-2.096v, this will be 5:6 if im not mistaking)
FSBT: auto (wasnt needed tuning on my rig till much higher fsb)

Maybe it helps, at least the rampage bios gives much more stability.

What would you like to get as result? Im asking because I remember that whatever was needed to tune 425FSB, my lessons didnt help getting 500FSB stable as I kept running into different, more complex problems then the ones I had when getting 425FSB stable...

[ShawnTRD]

I already try the memtest86 and I get 0 errors....

My actual bios is 1320 and I change some settings, no all. Some I let it on AUTO!!!!


Try changing "FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO" to 333 or 400, and set your DRAM Frequency to no higher then 1066.

Any luck?

[ShArKo]

Try changing "FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO" to 333 or 400, and set your DRAM Frequency to no higher then 1066.

Well I change the FSB Strap to 400Mhz and just for now it´s working....


@ShArKo;
My E8400 E0 needed almost no changing settings for 400FSB on my maximus Formula, but I did flash it to Rampage formula using XS forum. (It has a bad vid and I got it to 533FSB stable with latest rampage bios)
Mi VID is 1.2250 is it bad? :shakes:

I would suggest setting your ram to spec and note that the maximus overvolts most ram by 0.8 volts, so check the reads in hardware monitor in the bios to set them correctly.
Well right now I set 2.10 Vdimm but I set the DDR Reference to:

DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF

The gtl settings werent needed untill 450-480 fsb, so I suggest you leave them auto for this small oc.
Ok I will change that

GTLS-> both auto (cpu shouldnt need tuning till higher fsb)
NB -> try to 1.49
Ram -> set to spec (say spec is 1000mhz 5-5-5-15@2.1v, you set 1000mhz 2.02v ; reads +-2.096v, this will be 5:6 if im not mistaking)
FSBT: auto (wasnt needed tuning on my rig till much higher fsb)

Maybe it helps, at least the rampage bios gives much more stability.

So, you say that can be better if I do the mod to Rampage?

What would you like to get as result? Im asking because I remember that whatever was needed to tune 425FSB, my lessons didnt help getting 500FSB stable as I kept running into different, more complex problems then the ones I had when getting 425FSB stable...
Well What I want is 450MHZ or 500MHZ


Any luck?

I let you know later :p



Thanks for all the help you guys!!!! Right now Im at work, so well I come back home I will try this thinks!

[19*12 gamer]

Your vid aint to bad, my vid was 1.26v and it needed about 1.325v for 4Ghz. (and 1.48v load, 1.50v bios for 4.55Ghz)

Yes, the rampage bios gives more oc headroom.
(read the maximus to rampage thread for more info about this, you can read all my oc questions and answers there)
Real easy, just get the files they say you need and boot from usb flash drive and flash mobo to new bios. (reset bios before doing this and disconnect non needed usb hardware attached to the pc)

I think if your cooling is up for it, you can get 500Mhz stable, would be a nice 1:1 oc. Try to get 500fsb to boot windows, even if it crashed during boot you still have a starting point. My best experience is to start off with a fsb you like to get stable and work your way through all the settings. Main reason for this is that you can immediatly note the effects of changing certain settings to higher values and are able to make sure you are changing the (most)relevant settings.

In my experience most important values for stability;
CPU Voltage : 1.31250 (you will need more for 500fsb, i guess +-1.4-1.45)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52 (should be good, since the maximus makes that a 1.6)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41 (will need to be higer for 500fsb, guess; 1.49-1.59)
DRAM Voltage : 2.08 (check spec)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.32 (will need to be higher for 500fsb, guess;1.38-1.44)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050 (had no impact for me on any oc ever on raid 0)
Loadline Calibration : ENABLE (had to be enabled for me as well)
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X (this was the best setting for me but try all options)
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X (this was the best setting for me but try all options)
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO (never had to touch this setting)
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO (never had to touch this setting)
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO (never had to touch this setting)
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50 (had no impact for me on any oc ever on raid 0)

Maybe this gives you a windows boot 500FSB, Im kinda curious to read whats needed for 500fsb on your chip. Good luck!

[loften]

my e8500 ended up needing 1.49 cpu voltage and 1.40 fsbt voltage for 475 x 9.5 on the mf 1302 bios.. it would not boot 500x anything on that bios.. it started out needing 1.475 in bios then after a while i had to up it a little because it started to not be stable.. maybe it degraded a little or the ram was starting to crap out because a little after that i lost 2 sticks.. after i installed the water cooling i forgot to put a fan over the ram. i had one over my nb and ram before to keep them cool so i kind of blew it.. anyway i recently did the rampage bios conversion again for the heck of it.. it is at 4.0 cpu 1.30 bios and fsbt a little lower, no problems until i get some new ram to play with. i would like to get a e8600 to go along with the ram.. then i will start to post more on it..

[mrbudgie]

gamer you got you bios settings for hitting 4, as i am at 3.6 but its hit a wall in stability

[ShArKo]

19*12 gamer Thank you very much. I flash my BIOS to Rampage Formula BIOS so I will try to get a better OC than before. I hope this works... jejeje
I will star with FSB 400mhz and 1:1. I think with 1.3v Vcore It will be more than fine to get 3.6Ghz....

[ShArKo]

Well guys.......bad news......at least for me...
I flash my Maximus Formula to Rampage Formula but I got the fu$#"$#" same problemas as before. What Im doing wrong? Theres another setting that never see before (timming setting)... Can anybody help me to configure my bios ??? I will show you people how I configured the bios and you can tell me what Im doing wrong!!!!

THanks.

[Mr.Pink]

what is your problem?, your sig shows a e8400 running at 475 FSB
what are you trying to achieve?
I have clocked 6 chips on this board all did 500FSB or better

[OVERK|LL]

I've got a new problem.

Got my system stable a few months ago at 3.6Ghz with my GeForce 8800GTS. Will run 3DMark, passes prime....etc.

Today, I swapped out my video card for an ASUS Radeon 3870 X2 1GB. When I run 3DMark 2006, it gets to the dragon boat scene, gets 3/4 of the way through it and then a black screen.

If I play COD5, I can play it for 10 minutes or so, then I get a screen of vertical aqua and red lines.

Both situations require a hard reboot.

I have tried bumping FSB voltage. FSB term voltage, CPU PLL voltage....etc. Each individually of course. And none of my adjustments seem to be able to get me past this exact point in 3DMark.

I am running 450x8 using the 400 strap. The rest of my settings are the same as they were before (already posted in this thread).

Help? :D

[Furiøùs]

Put everything to stock, run 3Dmark and play 20min of CoD.

If it crashes, you have a faulty GPU, if not, then the new card is stressing your NB out more which is perfectly acceptable, I had the same problem from 1 GTX280 to a GTX295.

Small voltage increase to the NB fixed it for me.

[OVERK|LL]

Put everything to stock, run 3Dmark and play 20min of CoD.

If it crashes, you have a faulty GPU, if not, then the new card is stressing your NB out more which is perfectly acceptable, I had the same problem from 1 GTX280 to a GTX295.

Small voltage increase to the NB fixed it for me.

Was hoping you weren't going to suggest that! DARG!

Just bugs me that it worked fine with the 8800, but I understand that this card does draw more juice, and likely moves more data through the NB.

I will try it and post back.

FWIW, I bumped up the NB voltage to 1.65 (it is at 1.51 right now) and it didn't help.

[OVERK|LL]

Tried stock-clocks, didn't fix it :(

I am trying the drivers from ASUS for the card now instead of the ATI reference drivers.

I will update with the results.

[OVERK|LL]

ASUS drivers made no difference. I'm assuming the card is FUBAR. RMA time.

[iTravis]

Wow I'm surprised this thread still going, but it's time to say goodbye to my beloved Maximus Formula for the new X58. :) Couldn't be happier when I got my Q6600 running at 3.6Ghz, I can boot at 3.8Ghz but it's not stable. This board is totally worth every penny when I decided to get it when it first came out.

[ShArKo]

what is your problem?, your sig shows a e8400 running at 475 FSB
what are you trying to achieve?
I have clocked 6 chips on this board all did 500FSB or better

Yes I know, but this is a old signature :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Maybe I shoud edit it

[loften]

overkill i had issues with my power supply and hd3870 cards.. i had a ultra x3 1000,, full new build on everything my cards crashed no matter what i tried, every possible fix or trick i could google up and a few different 3870 bios and i even installed my brothers 8800 and it ran fine, put my 3870 back in and crash.. one two either or and both cards it was strange.. eventually swaped out my psu to a corsair tx850 and it worked fine after that.. not saying that is your problem but if you have a extra psu you might want to try it before you pull all your hair out.. also check to see if your psu is certified to run on that card.. yada yada i know a psu is a psu,, i thought i had plenty power to power my cards with the x3 1k, that is why i bought it but i had issues..since then that x3 went in a few different builds for testing and ran fine with different cards just not my 3870's..

[OVERK|LL]

overkill i had issues with my power supply and hd3870 cards.. i had a ultra x3 1000,, full new build on everything my cards crashed no matter what i tried, every possible fix or trick i could google up and a few different 3870 bios and i even installed my brothers 8800 and it ran fine, put my 3870 back in and crash.. one two either or and both cards it was strange.. eventually swaped out my psu to a corsair tx850 and it worked fine after that.. not saying that is your problem but if you have a extra psu you might want to try it before you pull all your hair out.. also check to see if your psu is certified to run on that card.. yada yada i know a psu is a psu,, i thought i had plenty power to power my cards with the x3 1k, that is why i bought it but i had issues..since then that x3 went in a few different builds for testing and ran fine with different cards just not my 3870's..

That's some great advice!

What I DID try last night was wiring it up to its own PSU (only a 250W one) to see if that would make a difference. It didn't. Crashes at the EXACT SAME SPOT every time.

Quite bizarre really. I'm using the card right now, it works just fine until I start to tax it with gaming or run 3DMark. And even then, it WILL game for a good 10 minutes before having a stroke.

I don't have a spare PSU here. Current one is a Thermaltake ToughPower 680W one, I've never had issues with it, but I won't rule it out as a possibility for sure.

I was just going to RMA the card ;)

[Mr.Pink]

Yes I know, but this is a old signature :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Maybe I shoud edit it

might be a good idea I know its alot of effort but hey


That's some great advice!

What I DID try last night was wiring it up to its own PSU (only a 250W one) to see if that would make a difference. It didn't. Crashes at the EXACT SAME SPOT every time.

Quite bizarre really. I'm using the card right now, it works just fine until I start to tax it with gaming or run 3DMark. And even then, it WILL game for a good 10 minutes before having a stroke.

I don't have a spare PSU here. Current one is a Thermaltake ToughPower 680W one, I've never had issues with it, but I won't rule it out as a possibility for sure.

I was just going to RMA the card ;)

Will the card crash at random or only when running 3d apps?
you might want to look at the temps as well ..... unless your PSU is dying it should be more than enough for that card.
I ran a 3870X2 on my Corsair 620 now I'm running a 4870X2 on the same PSU, are you using the dedicated 6 pin or the molex adapter?

Couple of things to try...PCIE frequency, try 101 to 105
up your SB volts a notch or 2

[ShArKo]

Well guys........Im runing my system at FSB 425Mhz, my rams 850Mhz (1:1) and my Vcore is 1.386 (Windows-CPU-Z) and in BIOS 1.4V.
The thing is that I can play games with no problem and run aplications, but wen I run a Prime95 or a Orthos strees I got a reboot.

[OVERK|LL]

might be a good idea I know its alot of effort but hey



Will the card crash at random or only when running 3d apps?
you might want to look at the temps as well ..... unless your PSU is dying it should be more than enough for that card.
I ran a 3870X2 on my Corsair 620 now I'm running a 4870X2 on the same PSU, are you using the dedicated 6 pin or the molex adapter?

Couple of things to try...PCIE frequency, try 101 to 105
up your SB volts a notch or 2

ONLY when running 3D apps. And it isn't instant. It takes a while.

I can't see temps being an issue, the side is off the case right now, and the card isn't getting hot.

The PSU has two dedicated 6-pin connectors, and I have both of them hooked up to it.

[Mr.Pink]

Well guys........Im runing my system at FSB 425Mhz, my rams 850Mhz (1:1) and my Vcore is 1.386 (Windows-CPU-Z) and in BIOS 1.4V.
The thing is that I can play games with no problem and run aplications, but wen I run a Prime95 or a Orthos strees I got a reboot.

you've tested the ram ( each stick separately ) with memtest and it passed?

Can you post your current bios setup or paste the link if you've already done so?

I have 6 E8400 setups from 3.825GHz all the way to 4.5GHz
Have 4.4GHz stable but 4.5 I could bench just not get her 24/7 stable
If you have a decent chip you can get 3.8/4.0GHz maybe more with decent cooling..

[loften]

sounds a lot like what i experienced.. is that a 15 amp 12 volt rail on that psu? if so that could be your problem..

[Parsa]

hi

my speaking english is bad:D

my motherboard is Maximus Formula ( Rampage Formula Converted ) and 902 Bios .

i want to overclock My Q9550 E0 :

what FSB for 24/7 for X38 and What temp for this FSB in 24/7 and what divider for this profile is good ?! ( My memory is Curucial Ballstix - can stable 1150 5-5-5-18 ) ?

tanks

[Parsa]

no any body help me ?!:eek:
Please .... :shocked:

[Leeghoofd]

Try to fill in via this template, if you look in this thread you will see numerous OC's. You need to do something yaself too :)

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency :
FSB Strap to North Bridge :
PCI-E Frequency:
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-
DRAM Command Rate :
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency :
RAS# to CAS# Delay :
RAS# Precharge :
RAS# ActivateTime :
RAS# to RAS# Delay :
Row Refresh Cycle Time :
Write Recovery Time :
Read to Precharge Time :

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :
Write to Read Delay (S) :
Write to Read Delay (D) :
Read to Read Delay (S) :
Read to Read Delay (D) :
Write to Write Delay (S) :
Write to Write Delay (D) :
DRAM Static Read Control:
Ai Clock Twister :
Transaction Booster :

CPU Voltage :
CPU PLL Voltage :
North Bridge Voltage :
DRAM Voltage :
FSB Termination Voltage :
South Bridge Voltage :
Loadline Calibration :
CPU GTL Reference :
North Bridge GTL Reference :
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage :
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage :
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage :
SB 1.5V Voltage :

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

[Parsa]

mr how are you ? :-w

my question is :

what FSB for 24/7 for X38 and What temp for this FSB in 24/7

are you see ?!!!

[Leeghoofd]

Well try 400FSB for starters and see how it goes, 450FSB is doable with proper tweaking for sure... Learn the motherboard and look into the thread for some setups... Just keep ya CPU sub 70°C when under full load and you will be fine...

[Mr.Pink]

mr how are you ? :-w

my question is :


are you see ?!!!

Maximus seems to be FSB limited when running a 45nm quad...
Most ppl get 425-430FSB b4 the wall, there are a few rare exceptions that will go beyond this wall but I have not seen many...

Here is a decent place to start

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1021

CLOCK SKEW Normal both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.35 (1.32 actual)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.55
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.22
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/Stable_3825.jpg

[Parsa]

ok

this motherboard not very good for ocing this cpu !

i will buy a new motherboard for this job ! ( maximus II Formula )

tanks

[Leeghoofd]

That's silly, why not give the mobo a go ? and for your info the MF II Formula ain't that good either... far easier is the P5Q Dlx or the Giga P45 UD3P...

Just give the old lady a chance, clock for clock it will beat the crap out of the P45's

[Mr.Pink]

That's silly, why not give the mobo a go ? and for your info the MF II Formula ain't that good either... far easier is the P5Q Dlx or the Giga P45 UD3P...

Just give the old lady a chance, clock for clock it will beat the crap out of the P45's

I own the Max X38 the Rampage X48 and the MIIF P45 and your correct
the X38 and X48 boards will kick the snot out of the P45 and the MIIF is a fussy lady on high FSB....Where the other 2 love high FSB and not to mention the bandwidth is choked on the P45 compared to the otehr platforms

Off topic but I see your Madshrimps sig Lee
Sorry to hear about Liquid3D passing away

[Wolf2000me]

Well try 400FSB for starters and see how it goes, 450FSB is doable with proper tweaking for sure... Learn the motherboard and look into the thread for some setups... Just keep ya CPU sub 70°C when under full load and you will be fine...

I've been playing around with various bios versions, Maximus and Rampage. Somehow I've never been able to reach the same clockspeed, being 414x9, on the Rampage versions. I'm kind of stuck on 412x9, which of course, isn't a big thing :)
I do notice that my temperatures are kind of high on the southbridge, the northbridge and the cpu. Significantly higher on one of the Rampage bios versions compared to the Maximus counterparts.

At this point I'm running on Rampage bios 803 and here are my settings that I can't seem to get stable:


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 9
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 414
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333Mhz
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 995Mhz (Slightly underclocked)
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
CAS# Latency :
RAS# to CAS# Delay :
RAS# Precharge :
RAS# ActivateTime :
RAS# to RAS# Delay :
Row Refresh Cycle Time :
Write Recovery Time :
Read to Precharge Time :

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :
Write to Read Delay (S) :
Write to Read Delay (D) :
Read to Read Delay (S) :
Read to Read Delay (D) :
Write to Write Delay (S) :
Write to Write Delay (D) :
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.40
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41
DRAM Voltage : Auto
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : A
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : A
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : A
SB 1.5V Voltage : A

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled


I mentioned my temps being rather high, so here they are. They are under full load of 4 instances of SPPrime. I also did the pencil trick mentioned in the OP.
CPU: 69°C (or that's as far as it goes)
NB: 65°C (same as above)

I can't get it to run on 4 instances of SPPrime for one minute. I break 68°C - 69°C in around 30 secs and that's where it crashes. OCCT runs for hours though, northbridge temp is similar, CPU temp is at least 6°C lower at full peak. OCCT correctly detects 4 cores so I assume it tests all 4.

The CPU is on water with dual Rad as noted in sig. Ambient temps are rather high though, this is a hot summer for the Brussels area.

Personally I'm not convinced I need that much voltage on the NB, certainly with that much heat, however I do think the instability is caused by CPU overheat. Hence I assume your threshold set at 70°C is more or less relative? :)

I never really tried getting a higher FSB out of the system, with the northbridge as hot as it is.
I also thought about getting a chipset block, but then I read the process of removing the stock heatsink and botched. I might look at it again in due time, if I feel like it. Now I need my rig to get some work done first.

Any thoughts on my setup is greatly appreciated :)

Cheers

[Mr.Pink]

your NB temps are going to be an issue, and yes you'll need volts for teh NB.
Most stable setups are running 1.45 or higher, I need 1.53 for stability mind you I run 478FSB

8X450 runing the 333 strap would be a better choice imo, the 100MHz you lose will be offset by the higher FSB and improved bandwidth.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081

CLOCK SKEW Normal both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : whatever your cpu needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[Wolf2000me]

I don't know about 8x450Mhz. The NB will become a heavier factor in the equation. I am going to try and see what happens of course.
I also notice that many are running the PCI-E frequency at 110Mhz instead of 100Mhz. Is there any specific reason for that?

[OVERK|LL]

Just ordered an ASUS HD4890 1GB for this beast to replace my defective 3870 X2. Also ordered a Corsair 750W PSU to replace my Thermaltake 680W one. Interested to see the improvement in 3DMark with the new card.

[Mr.Pink]

I will be interested to see that as well

[Mr.Pink]

I don't know about 8x450Mhz. The NB will become a heavier factor in the equation. I am going to try and see what happens of course.
I also notice that many are running the PCI-E frequency at 110Mhz instead of 100Mhz. Is there any specific reason for that?

you could run 4xxX9 that would allow for PL6 and take some stress off the NB
Have you remounted your NB block, the crap Asus uses for tim is rather sad, temps improve greatly if you re do the tim.

[Wolf2000me]

you could run 4xxX9 that would allow for PL6 and take some stress off the NB
Have you remounted your NB block, the crap Asus uses for tim is rather sad, temps improve greatly if you re do the tim.

4xxX9 is what I'm running, right? Or I'm missing something in your statement :)

I was about to order a waterblock for the NB until I read the guide explaining the hassle of removing the stock heatsink. I'd have to get everything out of my case, get some decent cleaning material and spend some time doing the whole process. I'd call me lazy but the thing is that I really need this rig running atm ^^

[OVERK|LL]

ASUS drivers made no difference. I'm assuming the card is FUBAR. RMA time.

OK, 3870 X2 is out, 4890 is in.

4890 benches JUST FINE in this rig. So it was definitely the card. Unfortunate.

[OVERK|LL]

Gained 637 points swapping out the 8800GTS to the 4890. Going to try and break 18K with it hopefully.

[Karl_in_Chicago]

Hey guys. While way back when I had planned on this build to be my first WC rig I just never got a round tuit - going to do that on the next build instead. I'd like to spend a modest amount of $$ to upgrade from the stock Intel HSF on my Q9450 to something better but want to make sure it FITS the mobo without a lot of fin bending or cap nudging. The stock HSF shouldn't be so bad but I find that extended runs at high utilization really spike the temps - I suspect it's partly due to my inability to effectively cinch the sucker down with that goofy push-pin system.

I recognize that the TRUE is among the ne plus ultra of air-cooled HSF's but was hoping to spend something less (and save the $$ for my WC parts) yet still get solid, improved, cooling over what I have now.

Scanning through the thread I see, from the .sig's, that most that don't WC like the TRUE (no surprise). Hoping to get some real world feedback on other solutions that fit this board without a big hassle. Specifically it would be great to know if, say, the Sunbeam CCF fits well (or something similar). NewEgg is currently selling that for $39.99 with a $15 rebate for a net (eventually) of only $25.

Thanks guys.

[[ITA]SEREUPIN80]

Hello friends,

I have a P5E , naturally x38 and there are some months that I am using the flashed bios 0401 of the Rampage Formula...


Lately I am doing some test with windows 7 x64 and I have noticed that I cannot boot windows with the same overclock setting... no I have 444mhz x9 so I have 4000mhz , with XP SP3 Pro .. with windows 7 x64, I cannot enter in windows .. at default I can, but if I overclock, i have big problems..

do you have some advices ? and anyway, do you think that I can overclock more my system ?

I have 2x2gb corsair and 2x1gb crucial


ps: in the first post I read about bios P5E --> rampage formula


3: Download the bios of your choice:
0207
0214
0219
0308
0401
0403


but I know that there are newest bios... what do you advice me? if i try to flash the latest bios of rampage formula, I will have problem or damages ?

thanks!! :)

[koli.fx]

Maximus seems to be FSB limited when running a 45nm quad...
Most ppl get 425-430FSB b4 the wall, there are a few rare exceptions that will go beyond this wall but I have not seen many...

I've had a big dilemma but you solved it for me. Right now I have E6750 but I want to get a quad core for Windows 7.

I was think about getting Q9550 and overcloking the hell out of it but based on what you said that is not gonna happen. 420 fsb would get me only 8.5*420 = 3570mhz.
I think I am better off buying a new platform with Intel i7 920 and clocking it to 4ghz. It will cost me only about £250 more than getting Q9500
(it is a long story that would involve getting a new 775 mobo so I could use it with E6750 as a media pc).

So right now it looks like my Maximus and E6750 will be relegated to a media pc instead...

[cencik]

koli.fx all u need to do to get higher FBS on MF is.
Rampage bios 0902 , E0 q9550, 1.60-1.65 on NB and low temp below 55c.., GTL 63x 67x, some skills and patience. FBS475 stable X8.5 is not bad for old mobo.

[overclocking101]

here ya go with maximus SE and rampage bios 0902 http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=715832

[Wolf2000me]

here ya go with maximus SE and rampage bios 0902 http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=715832

Hey man, nice OC ;)

Could you do us (and me :p:) a favour and post your settings for that one?

Thanks

[iTravis]

Does anybody have the settings for E8400@4.0Ghz or 4.2Ghz? I got my E8400 up to 4.2Ghz with the Asus P5K Pro but still trying to figure out the settings for my Maximus Formula.
EDIT: Nvm, got it up to 4.0Ghz stable, now aiming for 4.2Ghz. :D

[overclocking101]

I'm having a major issue getting stable over 470 fsb with my Q6600 on my maximus 2 formula i could do 490 no problem but this board wont do it( maximus se/rampage) ive been looking though this thread but need help with skews and gtl ref settings. please

[loften]

i think some of these boards are kind of tricky to get those higher fsb's.. some of them go right up there. mine kind of shut the door at 475 with my e8500,, even on lower multi's trying all the tricks i could find here.. my old e6850 would not even get close to 450 fsb on this same board..

[iTravis]

i think some of these boards are kind of tricky to get those higher fsb's.. some of them go right up there. mine kind of shut the door at 475 with my e8500,, even on lower multi's trying all the tricks i could find here.. my old e6850 would not even get close to 450 fsb on this same board..

+1, I couldn't even get past 420 when I had my Q6600 and since I just switch to the E8400 I can hit 450 easily and still going. I guess it also depends on the CPU you have, once you hit the FSB wall then you're stuck with it.

[Wolf2000me]

It seems that I installed a waterblock for the northbridge after all. I used a non-conventional and noobish method to remove the stock heatsink. It's not very hard, it just takes a little bit more time. Here's how I did it.
I bought a waterblock and started to remove the screws on the NB and SB. I couldn't get the thing off, it just wouldn't budge, not even after using a hairdryer to heat it up. So I decided to just screw it back on however I couldn't quite get the screws back on the NB although the backplate was still in place. I decided to just leave it like that and get it up and running again to get some work done. A few days later playing a game my system powered down by itself, the northbridge was at 79°C :eek:
So it seems if you have enough patience, the whole thing will come off by itself effortlessly hehe :D :shakes:

After attaching the NB waterblock, which is an AQ Twinplex XT DI btw, the northbridge hasn't reached 40°C. The Southbridge is naked though but its temp doesn't seem all that different.
I'll be playing around with it some more, that's for sure :)

[Wolf2000me]

Hey,

So with the new waterblock I'm currently running the settings below. The CPU goes up to 64°C, the NB doesn't reach 43°C.
OCCT crashes after 15 minutes, everything else seems to run fine including 3Dm06 twice. Any idea's?

edit: I can't say I need a lot more voltage to pull off 450+ on the FSB compared to 410+ Perhaps I might just need a bit more voltage, but the cpu temp won't get any better from it.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 8
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 463
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400Mhz
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-926Mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
CAS# Latency :
RAS# to CAS# Delay :
RAS# Precharge :
RAS# ActivateTime :
RAS# to RAS# Delay :
Row Refresh Cycle Time :
Write Recovery Time :
Read to Precharge Time :

Read to Write Delay (S/D) :
Write to Read Delay (S) :
Write to Read Delay (D) :
Read to Read Delay (S) :
Read to Read Delay (D) :
Write to Write Delay (S) :
Write to Write Delay (D) :
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.42
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : Auto
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.55
South Bridge Voltage : A
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : A
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : A
SB 1.5V Voltage : A

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

[loften]

wolf are you using the reapers still? i put some flex in mine and it boots right up and auto detects it at the rated settings.. not like my crucials,, they would not even post bios until i put another set in to change the bios voltage and settings then switch them in.. try setting your ram settings to close to their rated settings and set their voltage instead of leaving it at auto because these boards over volt the ram.. if they are 1066 try to get them close to it on the 400 or 333 strap.. 5,5,5,18 and leave the other sub timings on auto for now.. try change dram static to enabled, ai clock twister to strong, trans booster to disabled, relax 0. guessing it is the maximus bios with those settings you posted.... think you should be at a performance level of 7 there.. i like pl 7.. i can set it in the rampage bios easy..i would run some tests with the cpu at stock and get the memory stable at their rated settings or very close to them to make sure they are not causing any issues first.. a couple passes of prime 95 blend or memtest will give you a good idea.. i am not to familiar with the q6600, my brother had one and i watched him play with it a little.. i think the cpu voltage may need to be a little higher a couple clicks up and test if it drops a core up a little more re test, i think on cpu voltage 1.52 real and fsbt voltage can come down a little,, i think 1.48 on that, again it is not in front of me so i am guessing.. since i think i read you have water you should be fine.. watch the temps,, try prime 95 blend.. on mine occt gets like 10 degrees higher loaded temps and sometimes crashes when i can p95 it all day and all night on blend under 64 degrees..

[Wolf2000me]

wolf are you using the reapers still? i put some flex in mine and it boots right up and auto detects it at the rated settings.. not like my crucials,, they would not even post bios until i put another set in to change the bios voltage and settings then switch them in.. try setting your ram settings to close to their rated settings and set their voltage instead of leaving it at auto because these boards over volt the ram.. if they are 1066 try to get them close to it on the 400 or 333 strap.. 5,5,5,18 and leave the other sub timings on auto for now.. try change dram static to enabled, ai clock twister to strong, trans booster to disabled, relax 0. guessing it is the maximus bios with those settings you posted.... think you should be at a performance level of 7 there.. i like pl 7.. i can set it in the rampage bios easy..i would run some tests with the cpu at stock and get the memory stable at their rated settings or very close to them to make sure they are not causing any issues first.. a couple passes of prime 95 blend or memtest will give you a good idea.. i am not to familiar with the q6600, my brother had one and i watched him play with it a little.. i think the cpu voltage may need to be a little higher a couple clicks up and test if it drops a core up a little more re test, i think on cpu voltage 1.52 real and fsbt voltage can come down a little,, i think 1.48 on that, again it is not in front of me so i am guessing.. since i think i read you have water you should be fine.. watch the temps,, try prime 95 blend.. on mine occt gets like 10 degrees higher loaded temps and sometimes crashes when i can p95 it all day and all night on blend under 64 degrees..

Sorry, I thought I stated the bios version. It's the Rampage 803 bios I'm running. I just used the template from page 1, which is of course a Maximus version.

I am using those Reapers yes. The reason that they are stated in my sig as junk is because if i run them slightly over spec they start to get unstable.
I'm still using them because they are running under spec and I'm not really interested in heavy memory tweaking.
I'll give your suggestions a shot when I return from work. Thanks! :)

[loften]

ok so then the trans booster would be set to manual and the common performance level to 7.. the rest might be doable with the voltages on cpu and fsbt and maybe some pull in tweaks.. i am still learning the rampage bios. this is my second go around with it.. i figured out my e8500 on the maximus bios to 4.5 stable but i lost a couple sticks of ram.. i just have it at 4.38 on the same rampage bios you have with out any real tweaks and as soon as i get a better set of memory again i will start playing with it a little more .. i could run 3 different sets of memory on those settings on the 333 or 400 strap on pretty much every bios i have tried.. 2 sets of 8500 and a set of 6400.. the 6400 would go up to 1081 the rest would go up to mid 1100's.. i wish i wouldn't have sold a few of them because right after i did i lost a pair of my balistix and i think my second pair is about done for too.. which is my fault for not installing my fan back over them after i water cooled my cpu and nb.. they did pretty well before that mistake..

[Wolf2000me]

Transaction booster set to manual and PL7 results in a no boot. Just as most of the PL settings do. Once the system rebooted at 2.16Ghz and the keyboard wouldn't respond. Of course a bios reset fixed all that, great convenience those bios reset buttons :)

I did set the FSB strap from 400Mhz to 333Mhz, clock twister to moderate and I upped the CPU PLL voltage to 1.8v (as suggested by Cadaveca listed in the OP). This is stable but I also notice a slight performance hit.
I'm now trying to get 466x8 stable but I'm in the same situation as before. Everything works but OCCT crashes after 10 minutes of testing.

[DarkWhisper]

ive got the se version and having problems with my boot up replace a q6600 for a q9650 when powering up it comes up with testcmos. Do i need to bios flash? if so how do i do it. or would asus do it if i send board to them??

[hutkikz]

Yes you need a bios that supports 45 nm chips.
there is a good guide to flashing bios in the first post under "Maximus / P5E to Rampage Conversion"
you dont have to convert to rampage it will work for any bios
i believe you need bios 1207 or higher

[loften]

crud i forgot about this wolf.. anyway i wonder if your issues may be the board not liking the ram..

[overclocking101]

yep 460 fsb wall with my Q6600 i wonder if its the same with 45nm quads?? maybe ill just grab a Q6700 hell if i get 460 on that 10X460=4.6GHZ ill be happy

[OVERK|LL]

I managed to FUBAR my setup. I flashed back to Maximus to try the newest BIOS, was getting a plethora of DETRAM problems, so flashed back to Rampage, but didn't write down my previous settings.

Now I'm having fun getting it stable again. Though I am a lot closer now than I was yesterday, I can game and stuff without it rebooting.

I've currently got Vdroop disabled, so setting the base voltage significantly higher, because it seems that Vdroop is something Intel has designed to be used......

Also swapped out the RAM I had last week for another set of Ballistix, but haven't really tried to push them beyond 900Mhz, which is 1:1 for my current setup; 450x8, 400 strap.

[OVERK|LL]

Update:

Got it sorted out. Enabled LLC again, bumped voltage to 1.49 (1.48 actual) and its G2G.

[OVERK|LL]

Stupid question, in case somebody else has done this, and it would save me the time of messing with it if it isn't going to work:

I have 4x2GB Crucial Ballistix 800Mhz sticks. I noted that there is 500Mhz info for them at 2.0V using CPU-Z, so I'm thinking they should EASILY do 1,000Mhz. I can provide the stick numbers if necessary.

Now, I know that 8GB of RAM taxes the NB. I am running 1:1 right now (900Mhz) with them at 2V, but could go higher if the sticks will do it.... What is the highest anybody has gone in terms of memory clock, running 3.6Ghz on a Quad, on this board with 8GB of RAM?

[Wolf2000me]

crud i forgot about this wolf.. anyway i wonder if your issues may be the board not liking the ram..

Hey, no worries ;)

I have had a suspicion from the beginning that this ram wasn't the best I could have picked up for the price, hence the junk reference in the sig.

At this point I'm running 8x463Mhz with transaction booster on auto and on the 333Mhz FSB strap. However I have no idea what that does. Setting 400Mhz doesn't give me any different choices in the bios. However, ever since I set 333Mhz strap in the bios together with a CPU PLL voltage of 1.75v it's fully stable like this. Even with clock twister set to strong.
Adding 1 mhz on the FSB sets me back to the stability I had before. I guess I'm quite close to the limit of what this chip'll do without adding a lot of juice.

I'm not too unhappy with the result though :-)

[kogeltje]

I tried to get my E8200 500FSB+ but i cant get it stale on 500 FSB/ 4Ghz.

Someone got some ideas for me ?


E8200 ( 4,0Ghz )
Asus P5E ( RF 0902 bios )
4 Gb Crucial Ballistx tracer DDR2-800 ( 1000Mhz )
XFX HD 4890 Black Edition
Zalman HP 600 PSU

Cpu temps : idle 45, stressed 53.
CPU voltage : 1.38125 V
NB voltage : 1.31 V

[Flak]

Anyone try the new Maximus 1403 bios yet?

[dionysus]

I installed the latest bios 1403 I had a q6600 stable at 3.4.
Over this weekend I picked up a retail Q9550 at a reasonable price and wanted to play with a new toy. I have it prime stable at 3.714 437x8.5 with a vcore of 1.23 and its great the temps are also very good 40c idle and roughly 63c prime. I have a question since I have very little vcore and excellent temps I tried to get it to 4.0ghz. But for whatever reason ITS A NO GO. Do all think this maybe a FSB limitation?
thx for all replys in advance.

[Zucker2k]

Yes, it's a fsb limitation on the x38 chipset with regard to 45nm quads.

[dionysus]

Tx for the quick reply.

[overclocking101]

well i have left my nb voltage on auto to see what it self sets to, and have gotten higher clocks investigating the nb voltage it self sets to 1.65v ++ so anyone having stability issues with quads and such try higher nb voltage

[OLDcomer]

I installed the latest bios 1403 I had a q6600 stable at 3.4.
Over this weekend I picked up a retail Q9550 at a reasonable price and wanted to play with a new toy. I have it prime stable at 3.714 437x8.5 with a vcore of 1.23 and its great the temps are also very good 40c idle and roughly 63c prime. I have a question since I have very little vcore and excellent temps I tried to get it to 4.0ghz. But for whatever reason ITS A NO GO. Do all think this maybe a FSB limitation?
thx for all replys in advance.

Which revision is you board. Try Rampage bios 0802.


Yes, it's a fsb limitation on the x38 chipset with regard to 45nm quads.

I don't think so:
http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=901734