The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion [Archive] - Page 30

Allubz

11-04-2008, 02:40 PM

ASUS Rampage Formula x38 Special Edition
Intel E8400 C0 (Scythe Infinity 1x 120, 1x 80 push, 1x 80 pull)
4x1 GB OCZ FlexXLC 800MHz CL3
High-end Air cooling (5x 80mm fans)

CPU: 9*475 = 4.30GHz
RAM: CL5-5-5-15-auto's
Boots: BSOD @ Windows Vista x64 load

CPU: 9*465 = 4.20GHz
RAM: 931MHz CL5
Boots: Windows Vista x64
Prime / OCCT: Unstable (near-instant crash)

CPU: 9*450 = 4.06GHz
RAM: 900MHz CL5
Boots: Windows Vista x64
Prime / OCCT: Unstable (Prime: 1st Thread near-instant, OCCT after 10 secs)

I need some help here >.>

Settings:

Ai OC Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU: Auto
CPU Ratio: 9.0x
FSB Strap: 400
FSB: 450 (at best around 9*500, but I don't think a C0 can do that on high-end air cooling)
PCIE: 110

DRAM: 900+ (FSB500 does 1000MHz is possible stable max pretty sure)
CommandR: 2N
CLK Skew A: Auto
CLK Skew B: Auto
DRam Timing: Man
5-5-5-15 rest Auto

DRAM Static Read: Disabled
Ai Clock TwisteR: Auto
Ai Trans. Booster: Auto

CPU Volt: 1.45
CPU PPL: 1.54
NBv: 1.61
DRAM: 2.30 (+1.0 Overvolt afaik, 2.4v = rated)
FSB Term: 1.54
SB: 1.050
SB1.5: 1.50
Loadline: Enabled
CPU GTL: 0.63x
NB GTL: 0.67x
DRAM Contr: DDR2_REF
DRAM Ch A/B: Auto

Spread spectra: Disabled

Only report I get from OCCT is the CPU Temp going up to near 60 degrees in no time, they seem to remain steady around that temperature though (not sure).

Update: 9*400 (everything on Auto) results in max 46 degrees and even then it's unstable.. OCCT Crashed Code 1

Setup defauls = stable

Any help is much appreciated.

Note: Running latest Rampage Formula: 0410

MacClipper

11-04-2008, 07:24 PM

Made batch command files for easier crossflashing if anyone's interested, just load onto your flashstick and type Max2Ramp or Ramp2Max as you wish. Latest 1207 and 0410 included.
http://www.4shared.com/file/69814588/9c95327a/MaxRampage.html?dirPwdVerified=8f46ec6

I just did the Max2Ramp without issues, have not tried the Ramp2Max flashback though so YMMV.

HTH.

lbassa

11-05-2008, 08:06 AM

ASUS Rampage Formula x38 Special Edition
Intel E8400 C0 (Scythe Infinity 1x 120, 1x 80 push, 1x 80 pull)
4x1 GB OCZ FlexXLC 800MHz CL3
High-end Air cooling (5x 80mm fans)

...

DRAM: 2.30 (+1.0 Overvolt afaik, 2.4v = rated)
FSB Term: 1.54
SB: 1.050
SB1.5: 1.50
Loadline: Enabled
CPU GTL: 0.63x
NB GTL: 0.67x
DRAM Contr: DDR2_REF
DRAM Ch A/B: Auto

....

Only report I get from OCCT is the CPU Temp going up to near 60 degrees in no time, they seem to remain steady around that temperature though (not sure).

Update: 9*400 (everything on Auto) results in max 46 degrees and even then it's unstable.. OCCT Crashed Code 1

Setup defauls = stable

Any help is much appreciated.

Note: Running latest Rampage Formula: 0410

Allubz

try relax lat of your memorys, much voltage :shocked:

Transaction Booster [Disable] [4], less better memory and lat :)
Lats
5
5
5
15 or 18

in my PC I'm using this:

PCI-E Frequency:100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 900
DRAM Command Rate : 2
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime :15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : [AUTO]
Row Refresh Cycle Time : [AUTO]
Write Recovery Time : [AUTO]
Read to Precharge Time : [AUTO]

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : [AUTO]
Write to Read Delay (S) : [AUTO]
Write to Read Delay (D) : [AUTO]
Read to Read Delay (S) : [AUTO]
Read to Read Delay (D) : [AUTO]
Write to Write Delay (S) : [AUTO]
Write to Write Delay (D) : [AUTO]
DRAM Static Read Control: [Enabled]
Ai Clock Twister : [AUTO]
Transaction Booster : [DISABLED] [1]

CPU Voltage : 1.4475 Vroop:1.424
CPU PLL Voltage :
North Bridge Voltage :
DRAM Voltage : 2.02 Droop+=2.11~2.13

Using 4X1Gb=2X1Gb Cosair XMS2-6400C4 and 2X1GbSupertalent 6400

1000 @5-5-5-18 2.1 Bios ~ 2.22 windows works fine too :up:

Allubz

11-05-2008, 12:49 PM

Alright, I tried following, after double/triple reading the Anandtech article and the starting post:

8,5*450 seems to OCCT fine
9*450 wont.

Settings:

Ai OC Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU: Auto
CPU Ratio: 9.0x
FSB Strap: 400
FSB: 450
PCIE: 110

DRAM: 900
CommandR: 2N
CLK Skew A: Auto
CLK Skew B: Auto
DRam Timing: Man
5-5-5-15 rest Auto

DRAM Static Read: Disabled
Ai Clock TwisteR: Strong
Ai Trans. Booster: Auto

CPU Volt: 1.45
CPU PPL: Auto
NBv: 1.61
DRAM: 2.20
FSB Term: 1.54
SB: 1.050
SB1.5: 1.50
Loadline: Enabled
CPU GTL: 0.63x
NB GTL: 0.67x
DRAM Contr: DDR2_REF
DRAM Ch A/B: Auto

Spread spectra: Disabled

Any help appreciated..!

Renegade5399

11-05-2008, 12:51 PM

Man, been awhile since I posted in here. I got myself an E8600 and a Tpower I45 board. Put everything together and went to OC. Long story short, I have put this board back in and am clocking the 8600 on it. That Tpower may be good for extreme FSB speeds, but man it is a real whore to get working correctly. Once you have the feature set of an ASUS BIOS, you want nothing else. My board is modded to a Rampage on BIOS 0410 and it just loves this 45nm chip. I am still trying to find the max clock I can reach on water right now, but needless to say the performance has been wonderful. Lesson learned here: You get what you pay for.

loften

11-05-2008, 03:26 PM

i was close to getting one of those too.. i held out after looking at the bios and reading others issues with it.. i am kind of used to this maximus bios. the rampage bios was pretty sweet on it but started to go haywire after a week. it was doing all kinds of funky things with my usb, it would work and it wouldn't. it was also upping my volts to crazy high volts after i would set them where i wanted them.. so i switched back to the maximus bios and havn't had to many problems with it. these asus bios options once you figure them out are pretty friendly. i came from a socket A board so everything was new to me and it took a while. i don't think i would want anything different now after getting used to it.

Michowski

11-05-2008, 03:45 PM

Well im currently trying to get my system stable at 2.82ghz. I have a rampage formula x48, q9550. I had a stable 2.6ghz setup but im trying for some more now just to see what I can get. Heres a ss of everest

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i70/michowski/28.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i70/michowski/cpuz.jpg

I cant even run occt. I either get a code 1 error or code 4. Any suggestions to try and get this stable?

Bios are as follow

cpu- 1.33125V
cpu Pll- 1.5v
NB- 1.43v
Ram- 2.00v
fsb- 1.36v
sb- 1.050v
sb 1.5- 1.5v

Grnfinger

11-05-2008, 03:49 PM

Well im currently trying to get my system stable at 2.82ghz. I have a rampage formula x48, q9550. I had a stable 2.6ghz setup but im trying for some more now just to see what I can get. Heres a ss of everest

I cant even run occt. I either get a code 1 error or code 4. Any suggestions to try and get this stable? Il write down my bios voltages and post em up in a minute as well

Your gonna need more vCore on that C1 chip.
E0's will clock high with low volts but not C1's try around 1.35v

Michowski

11-05-2008, 04:01 PM

Your gonna need more vCore on that C1 chip.
E0's will clock high with low volts but not C1's try around 1.35v

That helped, thanks. Now occt still wont test because it says, cpu to hot. Its lower 40's so idk why thats to hot.

Grnfinger

11-05-2008, 04:08 PM

That helped, thanks. Now occt still wont test because it says, cpu to hot. Its lower 40's so idk why thats to hot.

in OCCT config click the monitoring tab and raise the cpu temp limit

Michowski

11-05-2008, 04:12 PM

in OCCT config click the monitoring tab and raise the cpu temp limit

I got a code 1 error

Grnfinger

11-05-2008, 04:25 PM

I got a code 1 error

up NB volts to 1.51

Michowski

11-05-2008, 04:35 PM

what does the codes mean from occt?

Michowski

11-05-2008, 05:07 PM

up NB volts to 1.51

I did that and now it just reboot. I was desktop stable with just the vcore bump.

Grnfinger

11-05-2008, 05:12 PM

I did that and now it just reboot. I was desktop stable with just the vcore bump.

post your current bios setup please

Michowski

11-05-2008, 05:36 PM

I uploaded the vid to youtube of my xtreme tweaker section. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxz_g9R1eCI

Grnfinger

11-05-2008, 05:44 PM

try this, if it passes up FSB to 450 and up vcore a few notches, FSBT might have to be raised to 1.30 or so, LMK how it works out

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1021

CLOCK SKEW Normal both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.35 (1.32 actual)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.22
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Michowski

11-05-2008, 06:09 PM

My current bios setup

Extreme Tweaker

AI Overclock Tuner- Manual
Overclock from cpu level up- Auto
CPU Ratio- 8.5
FSB strap to Northbridge- Auto
FSB- 448
PCIE Frequency- 100

Dram Frequency- DDR2-1076MHz
Dram Command Rate- Auto
Dram CMD Skew A- Auto
Dram CMD Skew B- Auto
Dram CLK Skew A- Auto
Dram CLK Skew B- Auto
Dram Timing- Auto

CPU- 1.35v
CPU PLL- 1.5v
Northbridge- 1.49v
Dram- 2.00v
FSB- 1.36v
Southbridge- 1.050v
Southbridge 1.5- 1.5v
Dram Controller Voltage REF- Auto
Dram Channel A Voltage REF- Auto
Dram Channel B Voltage REF- Auto

CPU LED Selection- CPU Volts
NB LED- NB volta
Voltiminder LED- Enable

CPU Spread Spectrum- Disable
PCIE Spread Spectrum- Disable

Allubz

11-06-2008, 05:52 AM

Neither of your two setups managed to boot.

I need a higher NB volt to start with.

But for some reason OCCT and Prime (same code) drop 1 thread within 15 seconds of testing and the other one stops as a result of that (Code 1 / 4).

I'm running 3.6GHz atm which seems stable. And 4 seems stable too, but OCCT says differnet.

Win Vista x64 isn't a problem, when testing OCs?

Michowski

11-06-2008, 09:59 AM

Allubz

11-06-2008, 01:29 PM

Oh, I said it a few times before, but forgot to add it to the last post:

ASUS Maximus Formula Special Edition @ Rampage Formula 1410 (same results for both chipsets, got the feeling Rampage does a bit more, though)
Intel E8400 C0 (not sure about batch, sorry)
4x1 GB OCZ FlexXLC PC2-6400 CL3. POST + Boot @ 1066MHz
Windows Vista x64 SP1

Thanks for reading :)

Renegade5399

11-06-2008, 01:50 PM

Michowski

11-06-2008, 02:21 PM

I couldnt get 3.8 stable so I went back to 3.6. I kept turning the vcore up but never got rid of the code errors on occt.

Grnfinger

11-06-2008, 02:24 PM

I have got some screens and settings to post for you guys this evening. I got my 8600 4.5GHz stable today under water cooling. I will update my specs and post my settings and hopefully they will be of some use. :D

can you provide your VID and batch number of the chip
I might be looking for another 8600, my first 2 were dogs

ericab

11-07-2008, 10:44 AM

Allubz

11-07-2008, 01:13 PM

hey yall!
been a while since i posted here, and im totally out of the loop on whats new with the Maximus formula --> maximus rampage conversion.
i looked around the asus website, and noticed the "Rampage Formula 0601 Bios"
im on 308!

what do yall think ? update to the 601 ?

0601 = Downgrade.

MF Newest ist 1207
RF Newest is 0410

Have fun ;)

If anyone can respond to my problem it'd be appreciated.

EDIT: My bad, where'd you find a 06 bios for rampage o.o

Michowski

11-07-2008, 01:49 PM

I finally got 3.82ghz stable out of my q9550 and rampage formula. 4.0ghz, here I come....
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i70/michowski/38STABLE-1.jpg

Michowski

11-07-2008, 01:57 PM

Grnfinger

11-07-2008, 02:13 PM

I should note that I did pass the 2 hour test, I only started doing the 20 minute tests because I was individually lowering my volts down 1 by 1 so just needed a quick stability test to make sure it stayed stable.

very good, glad you got it sorted out. :up:

Has anyone tested the new bios for Rampage??

11/04/2008 12:22AM 1,000,003 RAMPAGE-ASUS-Formula-0601.zip

Was wondering if it offered anything

Michowski

11-07-2008, 11:11 PM

Zucker2k

11-08-2008, 05:35 AM

Well all night ive been struggling to get to 3.9 but I just cant get it stable. Been reading around and came to the conclusion that my 9550 limit is 448 fsb x 8.5 multi. Im stable all day at 448 but once I started bumping it higher, I cant last more then 1 minute on occt wether its mix, ram, or cpu. Doesnt matter. I updated my latest test in post 7278. Thats were I want to keep it for 24/7 use. Are all my volts in good shape for that? Any reason not to?It is difficult to help you out when your parts aren't listed. What ram are you using. If your ram can run stable @ 1132 then here is:

Easy 4Ghz on Rampage Formula (8.5x471)

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1132

CLOCK SKEW Normal both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7] Try 8 if you fail at 7

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.375 (1.360 actual) You may need more
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 Leave this pegged at this setting, it makes my system very unstable with any 45nm cpu
North Bridge Voltage : 1.57 (actual)
DRAM Voltage : ???
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40v (1.30v actual)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.125
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.60v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF

@Grnfinger; What's the latest on your RF, did you get to play with it yet?

Renegade5399

11-08-2008, 06:08 AM

can you provide your VID and batch number of the chip
I might be looking for another 8600, my first 2 were dogs

Well the VID is 1.25v.

I have to get the box out of the closet and get you the batch number.

Grnfinger

11-08-2008, 06:53 AM

@Grnfinger; What's the latest on your RF, did you get to play with it yet?

Store where I bought was out of stock, they now have them in but I cant decide what to get, Rampage or a Giga UD3.
This will be my last board b4 i7 so I am torn.

Rampage Bios 601 is a nice bios, Very stable and I could drop 1 notch of vCore and vtt :up:
Rig is on air so any little bit helps

Michowski

11-08-2008, 10:06 AM

It is difficult to help you out when your parts aren't listed. What ram are you using. If your ram can run stable @ 1132 then here is:

Easy 4Ghz on Rampage Formula (8.5x471)[/B]

memory- OCZ2P10664GK
cpu- q9550
mainboard- asus rampage formula x48
OS- Vista ultimate 64
video- radeon 4870

I have tried for 3.9 and I could not get it stable. I even turned everything but vcore on auto and it still wasnt stable. I crossed that 450 barrier and no matter what I couldnt get it stable. I had 1:1 ratio for fsb/ram. I feel like im just capped at 3.82ghz.

Grnfinger

11-08-2008, 10:15 AM

memory- OCZ2P10664GK
cpu- q9550
mainboard- asus rampage formula x48
OS- Vista ultimate 64
video- radeon 4870

I have tried for 3.9 and I could not get it stable. I even turned everything but vcore on auto and it still wasnt stable. I crossed that 450 barrier and no matter what I couldnt get it stable. I had 1:1 ratio for fsb/ram. I feel like im just capped at 3.82ghz.

running on auto is not a good idea, unless you want to buy new hardware in a month or 2.

To determin if its a FSB wall lower your multi 475x8 , 475x7
1.35vcore for 3.8GHZ should leave alittle room for 3.9 -4.0 but if your chip scales poorly then you might need 1.425 for 3.9GHz, 1.475 for 4.0GHz

Michowski

11-08-2008, 11:09 AM

I only went to auto to see if I could get my system stable past 3.82 and I still couldnt.

Futastic

11-08-2008, 03:33 PM

It is difficult to help you out when your parts aren't listed. What ram are you using. If your ram can run stable @ 1132 then here is:

Easy 4Ghz on Rampage Formula (8.5x471)

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1132

CLOCK SKEW Normal both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7] Try 8 if you fail at 7

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.375 (1.360 actual) You may need more
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 Leave this pegged at this setting, it makes my system very unstable with any 45nm cpu
North Bridge Voltage : 1.57 (actual)
DRAM Voltage : ???
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40v (1.30v actual)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.125
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.60v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF

@Grnfinger; What's the latest on your RF, did you get to play with it yet?

Before my CPU PLL Voltage was at 1.60 and my NBv had to be set at 1.65 for it to be stable, now when I lowered the CPU PLL Voltage to 1.50, my NBv is at 1.53. So it really does make a difference in terms of stability. :)

Commander_HK47

11-08-2008, 06:37 PM

I have a general question about when you flash a new bios to MF/MR boards. That question is when you flash a bios and the application says that it is erasing/writing the bios from/to the ROM, does any one else get two blocks towards the end of the progress bar that seem to be skipped? What i mean by this is they are still yellow, however are half pixel shaded in appearance. The flashing app will say it has completed successfully how it just bothers me....

Zucker2k

11-08-2008, 06:59 PM

Michowski

11-08-2008, 07:54 PM

No, my memory is all on auto except for the voltage. Temps for cpu are 40 idle, low 50's gaming. NB is 50 idle.

Zucker2k

11-08-2008, 10:12 PM

hmm what's temp at load; that nb voltage seems a little on the high side. Set DRAM control to 'manual' and advance clock skews to 300 each on A/B; that should do the trick.

westsider

11-08-2008, 10:40 PM

590 FSB 1:1
maximus formula thermalright NB+SB modded
NB 1.87v
FSB VTT 1.94V
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=434231

Zucker2k

11-08-2008, 10:47 PM

590 FSB 1:1
maximus formula thermalright NB+SB modded
NB 1.87v
FSB VTT 1.94V
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=434231That;s got to be the highest vtt yet; you don't need that much vtt for 590. I did 600fsb (7.5x600) with 1.34vtt on RF.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3195895&postcount=1

westsider

11-09-2008, 04:49 AM

it couldnt boot otherwise

and i had to give SB 1.2v and 1.55@1.65
so has HDD controller functioned

otherwise:

"not proper boot device" :)

Michowski

11-09-2008, 08:34 AM

hmm what's temp at load; that nb voltage seems a little on the high side. Set DRAM control to 'manual' and advance clock skews to 300 each on A/B; that should do the trick.

Under occt it gets to 70c for cpu and upper 50's for nb. While gaming tho those both never get close to those temps. I was gaming a good 8 hours yesterday and she was flawless. Nothing got above 55c from video card to mb and everything inbetween.

Futastic

11-10-2008, 12:24 PM

OK I have a problem...I can prime for 8 hrs straight without any problems, but if I prime while playing a video for like 10-15 mins the whole system freezes. Any ideas? I tried upping my NBv to 1.65 and it still freezes after 10-15 mins while priming and playing a video. Heres my BIOS settings:

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1132

CLOCK SKEW Normal both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.33725 (1.32 actual)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Michowski

11-10-2008, 07:28 PM

hmm what's temp at load; that nb voltage seems a little on the high side. Set DRAM control to 'manual' and advance clock skews to 300 each on A/B; that should do the trick.

I just put them both on 300, so I should try for 4.0ghz again?

Allubz

11-11-2008, 12:28 AM

Futastic.

1) Graphic card still OK?
2) DRAM Speed over stock
3) Maybe try to run a video with an upped vCore

Futastic

11-11-2008, 01:47 AM

Futastic.

1) Graphic card still OK?
2) DRAM Speed over stock
3) Maybe try to run a video with an upped vCore

The graphics card is fine. I tried running DRAM at 1:1 at 943MHz and it still does the same thing. So you think I should bump the CPU vCore up even tho its stable while priming for 8+ hours?

Zucker2k

11-11-2008, 05:43 AM

I just put them both on 300, so I should try for 4.0ghz again?Yes

Michowski

11-11-2008, 07:16 PM

Yes

crash code 4 again at about 45 seconds.

MJR

11-12-2008, 06:04 PM

I've been running my rig stable at 9x 410 at over 1.6vcore for a bit now and it just crashed on my the other day. Display and usb's quit then it just hung on me. Now I'm having a hard time getting anything stable above 320fsb. I know there ae numerous reports of the board doing this, but I can't read through this thread to see the resolution. Is the board giving up on me? or do I just need to find some new, more reasonable settings, maybe even go to a 45nm chip so I don't give this board such a vcore load.

mk_ln

11-13-2008, 09:51 AM

Hi, it seems that there have been issues with cold boots (namely BIOS reseting to defaults after a complete poweroff/unplug); is this related to a specific BIOS version such as 403? I was wondering if it is worth it to update to 410 as it seems that people have been reporting 601 as a downgrade.

also, will flashing the BIOS destroy my RAID0 array?

thanks in advance :)

Renegade5399

11-13-2008, 11:10 AM

I have no issues with 0601. It works great for me. And no, it will not affect your RAID.

mk_ln

11-13-2008, 11:40 AM

thanks for the reply.

would i still have to use the conversion method to flash (i.e. method on first page) or would asus update work?

Thanks

hewi

11-14-2008, 04:02 AM

Im getting horrible ? NB & SB temps on my maximus formula hanging in the 60's on idle. I know the treshold is up at 90 degree celsius but coming from a G35 chipset this is like a damn sauna, lol. I was wondering if mobo orientation has anything to do with this, im using an inverted case ( Lian Li V1000 ) but I thought these newer heatpipe assemblies didn't care wich way they were put and wont get saturated. Looks like imma have to watercool them afterall.

voo

11-14-2008, 09:26 AM

Hey!

First of all, hi to everyone :)

I've been trying to o/c my cpu to 4GHz, but so far no results.

System spec:
Rampage Formula (X48) bios 601 (10/15/08)
E8400 E0
Corsair TWIN2X4096-8500C5D (2x2GB)

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-943

CLOCK SKEW Normal both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.35
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.55
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.1
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.30
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

But system didn't complete POST. LCD says DET RAM.
Any help would be appreciated.

N3it1

11-14-2008, 09:43 AM

askimo

11-14-2008, 08:21 PM

link_091

11-14-2008, 11:57 PM

Allubz

11-15-2008, 02:44 AM

Hello everyone! I need your help:
So i bought a new Q9550 E0, and can't overclock it higher than 3,6GHz
After 435 FSB i can't load os, and on 455FSB motherboard doesn't start at all.
Is it becouse of x38? By the way the CPU nedds only 1,25V for 3,6GHz
thanks for your replyes...
My system
Q9550 E0
Asus Maximus Formula @ Rampage BIOS
Cell Shock PC8000
9800GTX
Cooler Master Cosmos S

Post voltages, all that what's in the BIOS... etc.

@voo: Try loosening the performance level a bit, to 8 max 9.
Static Read Control - Disabled
Ai Clock Twister: Medium / Strong (up it when you get your rig stable)
CPU volt up to 1.45
NB Volt up to 1.65(max)

Try all these in steps. Golden rule in overclocking is always changing one thing at a time to test where the weak point is/was.

link_091

11-15-2008, 04:06 AM

Post voltages, all that what's in the BIOS... etc

xtreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400 ( tried 333 also)
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 4

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 9
Write to Read Delay (S) : 5
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8] ( tried 9,10 didn't help)

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1,35
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.54
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.14
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.38
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.65X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Nothing helps...my motherboard doen't even show logo screen after 440FSB...
I don't belive my cpu has FSB Wall 440FSB

carepolice

11-15-2008, 04:11 AM

xtreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400 ( tried 333 also)
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 4

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 9
Write to Read Delay (S) : 5
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8] ( tried 9,10 didn't help)

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1,35
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.54
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.14
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.38
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.65X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Nothing helps...my motherboard doen't even show logo screen after 440FSB...
I don't belive my cpu has FSB Wall 440FSB

Hmm.. My Q9550 runs nicely whit 1.14 NB and VTT, PLL on 1.52 @ 450x8,5

Try increase your cpu voltage to 1.4 for test atleast

link_091

11-15-2008, 04:14 AM

Hmm.. My Q9550 runs nicely whit 1.14 NB and VTT, PLL on 1.52 @ 450x8,5
Try increase your cpu voltage to 1.4 for test atleast

maybe it is because you have P45?
I tried 1,4 Vcore- didn't htlp at all.
Does anybode here has Q9550 + Maximus?

Grnfinger

11-15-2008, 06:12 AM

maybe it is because you have P45?
I tried 1,4 Vcore- didn't htlp at all.
Does anybode here has Q9550 + Maximus?

It seems X38 chips sets and 45nm quads dont play well.
On my Maximus 38 my 9550 would do 425x8.5 MAX not one number higher.
On my P45 Maximus board it will do 488x8.5 and I run it at 475x8.5 24/7.
So its not your chip its the board unfortunately.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/1140.png

link_091

11-15-2008, 06:33 AM

It seems X38 chips sets and 45nm quads dont play well.
On my Maximus 38 my 9550 would do 425x8.5 MAX not one number higher.
On my P45 Maximus board it will do 488x8.5 and I run it at 475x8.5 24/7

I see now...thanks
i am probably gonna buy P5Q Deluxe:)

Allubz

11-15-2008, 06:48 AM

I see now...thanks
i am probably gonna buy P5Q Deluxe:)

:yepp:

How are you running your RAM on 1200 if it's specced at 8000 = 1000MHz?

Are you sure your RAM is even capable of that? Did you explicitly test running the RAM at that speed with a low multiplier and FSB?

link_091

11-15-2008, 06:57 AM

:yepp:

How are you running your RAM on 1200 if it's specced at 8000 = 1000MHz?

Are you sure your RAM is even capable of that? Did you explicitly test running the RAM at that speed with a low multiplier and FSB?
I tested my ram when i had QX6700
http://smages.com/t/c1/0f/c10fcd81a174826a9ce640295abfaad8.jpg (http://smages.com/c1/0f/c10fcd81a174826a9ce640295abfaad8.jpg.htm)
It does 1200 4-4-4-12 2,4V
1300 5-5-5-15 2,42V

Shiranui Gen-An

11-15-2008, 10:05 AM

:yepp:

How are you running your RAM on 1200 if it's specced at 8000 = 1000MHz?

Are you sure your RAM is even capable of that? Did you explicitly test running the RAM at that speed with a low multiplier and FSB?

Cellshock 8000 CAS4 stuff is some insane RAM from what I've seen, uses Micron D9GKX chips.

Furiøùs

11-15-2008, 10:15 AM

Uhm, where can you purchase the cellshock?

Does it come in 2x2 sets?

Shiranui Gen-An

11-15-2008, 10:19 AM

http://www.memoryc.com/computermemory/ddr2ram/2gbcellshock1000mhzpc28000cl4.html
It's a 2x1GB kit.

Allubz

11-15-2008, 02:50 PM

Oh my god, excuse the blashphemy o.O

DDR2 @ 1300 is an overclockers dream o.o

Futastic

11-15-2008, 03:21 PM

My maximus can hit 476 FSB with around 1.69 NBv tho.
http://i33.tinypic.com/w80pjq.jpg

Grnfinger

11-15-2008, 03:34 PM

Futastic

11-15-2008, 03:45 PM

Interesting, can you do it on other bios releases?
I've omly tested to bios 308 and it would not post on anyhitng above 425FSB, you mkae me want to toss it back in the MAximus X38 and crank the NB volts to see what it cn do

Yep I did 471 FSB on 0308 Rampage BIOS with 1.61 NBv. I can POST at 500 FSB but it would just stop at the microsoft loading bar. Maybe if I was on water and crank up the NBv more it would probably boot.

MacClipper

11-15-2008, 06:38 PM

471 FSB on 0308 Rampage BIOS with 1.61 NBv. I can POST at 500 FSB
Nice FSB clocking, kindly post your full BIOS settings for others to ogle at, thx.

Futastic

11-15-2008, 07:38 PM

BIOS settings:

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1132

CLOCK SKEW Normal both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.33725 (1.32 actual)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

RCG_Bex

11-15-2008, 07:46 PM

Oh my god, excuse the blashphemy o.O

DDR2 @ 1300 is an overclockers dream o.o

My Adata Extreme DDR1200 kit could manage 1400mhz (2x 1GB) but by then the timings were a bit poor. 1340 @ 5-5-5-18 :)

~Bex

MacClipper

11-16-2008, 05:34 AM

Thx for the settings, Futastic. :)

link_091

11-16-2008, 05:48 AM

BIOS settings:

Hmm, don't know why, but nothing helps. Wan't boot more than 430FSB:(

Grnfinger

11-16-2008, 06:11 AM

Hmm, don't know why, but nothing helps. Wan't boot more than 430FSB:(

lower your multi to 6 or 7 and try to boot at 445-450
up NB volts if required as others have suggested, if no post then your at a wall.

link_091

11-16-2008, 10:24 AM

lower your multi to 6 or 7 and try to boot at 445-450
up NB volts if required as others have suggested, if no post then your at a wall.

So i booted without any problem 6x440, and on 6x445 it frezes after windows loading bar, at 6x450 it doesn't show even BIOS logo.
And i also couldn't boot at 8.5х440 ( though i did it at 6x440)
What do you think about it?

ShawnTRD

11-17-2008, 01:59 AM

link_091

11-17-2008, 02:52 AM

did you raise your NB Voltage as Grnfinger said?

Yes, even tried up to 1,7V-didn't help

Barr3l Rid3r

11-17-2008, 04:48 AM

Yes, even tried up to 1,7V-didn't help

stop that. 1.55v is more then enough... try to raise fsb to 1.4 or even 1.45v, vPLL to 1.55v and be sure your DDR aren`t holding u back, relax it on level 1, use the lowes frequency avaible 1:1 and use 2.00v cause this board overvolts it a bit. FSB strap set to 400, gives me better stability over 520mhz fsb, and also better bandwitch in read and write.

Bios 410 is great try it, I am at 601 now... @ 530x8 e8400 e0 @ 1.28v

link_091

11-17-2008, 07:30 AM

Barr3l Rid3r I tried everything...
I probably gonna change my board

Allubz

11-17-2008, 02:28 PM

So i booted without any problem 6x440, and on 6x445 it frezes after windows loading bar, at 6x450 it doesn't show even BIOS logo.
And i also couldn't boot at 8.5х440 ( though i did it at 6x440)
What do you think about it?

Hey mate, I'm pretty much having the same problem as you are...

Look a page or 3 back (at max) you'll see my description and settings.

I'm currently running 9*445 which >seems< stable. But I cap around that max too. 4.2GHz for example is a no go for me (which is 9*460 or so)

Futastic

11-17-2008, 03:13 PM

Barr3l Rid3r I tried everything...
I probably gonna change my board

Try locking your PCIE Frequency at 100

Futastic

11-17-2008, 03:15 PM

Well I finally booted up at 481 FSB, had to lock my PCIE Frequency at 100 to get it stabilized =)
http://i37.tinypic.com/2w71xfq.jpg

Grnfinger

11-17-2008, 03:35 PM

Well I finally booted up at 481 FSB, had to lock my PCIE Frequency at 100 to get it stabilized =)

Thats a nice chip you have there , great job:up:

N3it1

11-18-2008, 06:53 AM

Im about to flip here.Been reading this thread almost every day waiting for my Maximus to come from RMA but on tuesday its almost 4weeks when i sent it there.
Hope i get it soon so i go by your lead and try to beat the crap out of my Q9300.

Update to my misery : Maximus Formula aint available in my country anymore and they offer me Maximus Formula ll instead.So i would get new MF2,its more expensive here but some how i dont fancy any P45.Other option is to take that RMA as in money (210€) and buy new mobo from their shop (they cover 210€ of my new mobo and refund the rest if i take cheaper)
I got Asus P5Q pro as a replacement board atm but i really dont like it at all.Any ideas?

Zucker2k

11-18-2008, 07:42 AM

Update to my misery : Maximus Formula aint available in my country anymore and they offer me Maximus Formula ll instead.So i would get new MF2,its more expensive here but some how i dont fancy any P45.Other option is to take that RMA as in money (210€) and buy new mobo from their shop (they cover 210€ of my new mobo and refund the rest if i take cheaper)
I got Asus P5Q pro as a replacement board atm but i really dont like it at all.Any ideas?List the options you have.

N3it1

11-18-2008, 09:12 AM

- To get new Maximus Formula 2 cause they dont have the original Maximus Formula X38.
- Get 210€ (price of my X38 MF) to the shop and choose other motherboard,if i get cheaper they refund.
- Put more money 210€ + X amount of €uros for new mobo ( dont see any sense in this cause i7 came out to waste lots of money to high end socket 775 mobo.)

It has taken 4 weeks from them and if i understood correctly MF2 is 8x in crossifire and MF X38 is 16x.So i basically feel im getting more expensive but more suckier mobo.I got 280GTX but they dont know that in the shop so...
I also got Asus P5Q-pro mobo but im planning to sell this cause i really dont like this.
There is basically my options.Im planning to keep this pc for a while to till the i7 fuzz settles and i can get them for reasonable price (6-12months)

Zucker2k

11-18-2008, 09:44 AM

Your only oprtion for a motherboard is a MFII?

N3it1

11-18-2008, 10:22 AM

Your only oprtion for a motherboard is a MFII?
Yeh they offered that one for me.Havent agreed yet.
Dont know what to do,my Maximus was so solid board that im kinda hoping if i agree MFII it would be too.

Allubz

11-18-2008, 03:16 PM

Futastic, pleas post your exact BIOS settings. It might help me to figure out what to do with my E8400 C0.

I'm about to go from extreme air cooling to wc, it's "officially" unstable at 4GHz..

Grnfinger

11-18-2008, 03:31 PM

Yeh they offered that one for me.Havent agreed yet.
Dont know what to do,my Maximus was so solid board that im kinda hoping if i agree MFII it would be too.

MIIf is a solid board, it clocks great
If your running a single GPU you will get FULL 16x, CF is limited to 8x but its only noticable in benches.

My only suggestion/advice is to reseat the NB when / if you get it and run bios 1307 anything higher is craptastic for now. Maybe Asus will close the bar and let the bios engineers sober up so they can get it right.

I have both boards MIIF and Maximus X38 I doubt you'll be disapointed with the choice.

N3it1

11-18-2008, 08:22 PM

MIIf is a solid board, it clocks great
If your running a single GPU you will get FULL 16x, CF is limited to 8x but its only noticable in benches.

My only suggestion/advice is to reseat the NB when / if you get it and run bios 1307 anything higher is craptastic for now. Maybe Asus will close the bar and let the bios engineers sober up so they can get it right.

I have both boards MIIF and Maximus X38 I doubt you'll be disapointed with the choice.

Ok thanks,ill agree to their offer and get it.Shame i gotta leave this thread for that tho :rofl:

Michowski

11-19-2008, 11:29 AM

Well I finally booted up at 481 FSB, had to lock my PCIE Frequency at 100 to get it stabilized =)
http://i37.tinypic.com/2w71xfq.jpg

Damn thats nice. Thats pretty close to my settings now at 3.84ghz. Your vcore is a lot lower then mine tho. Im at 1.39 in bios.

Allubz

11-19-2008, 12:01 PM

Ohwel..

I think I'll send my Special Edition board in because one of the HDD LED Pins broke off. With a BIT of good luck I'll get a new board, see if it does better or if I'm just a total nub.

Nothing above 4GHz is stable for me. Altough the temps are more than fine (25 idle, 45 load).

Zucker2k

11-20-2008, 06:21 AM

Well I finally booted up at 481 FSB, had to lock my PCIE Frequency at 100 to get it stabilized =)
http://i37.tinypic.com/2w71xfq.jpgI don't think I can beat your 4Ghz and 1.320v on that C1 chip, but here is 4.1Ghz on 1.384v on my C1. Even more impressive, my G.Skills passed 32M pi at 1160mhz! :eek:

Over the last few days I've been running 4.25Ghz (8.5x500 fsb), and DDR2 1000. I prefer to max both clocks and ram frequencies, so we'll see what gives. The new G.Skills DDR2 1000 4-4-4-12 is tempting me a lot, but I'm holding on to my wallet for now. Right now, I gotta decide whether 4.25Ghz/DDR2 1000 > 4.1 Ghz/DDR2 1160.

zlojack

11-20-2008, 06:47 AM

That would be an interesting little comparison of benchies, Zucker2k

askimo

11-20-2008, 06:36 PM

Can somebody tell me if this memory is a good overclocker/compatible with the P5E moded to RF?

OCZ DDR2 PC2-8500 Fatal1ty 4GB Dual Channel (OCZ2F10664GK)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227364&Tpk=OCZ2F10664GK

Never mind, crap timings!!!

Grnfinger

11-21-2008, 06:40 AM

That would be an interesting little comparison of benchies, Zucker2k

Damn thats a sweet looking board in your avatar,
I hope to test drive a i920/P6T today, I cant seem to make up my mind on this

voo

11-21-2008, 12:33 PM

Can you have a look at the following setup?

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1132

CLOCK SKEW auto

DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.33750
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.39
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.36
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Prime fails after a few sec. Can you give me any tips?

System spec:
Rampage Formula (X48) bios 601 (10/15/08)
E8400 E0
Corsair TWIN2X4096-8500C5D (2x2GB)

Grnfinger

11-21-2008, 12:48 PM

voo

11-21-2008, 01:35 PM

small FFT's seem to run smoothly, no errors so far.
Both large FFT's and Blend fail after a few seconds, upping NB voltage to 1.49 didn't help.

I've also tried the following setup, which turned out to be quite stable for now.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 7.5
FSB Frequency : 533
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1068

CLOCK SKEW auto

DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [9]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.33750
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Grnfinger

11-21-2008, 02:21 PM

if its passing small FFT's and not passing blend then its your ram, try runnng memtest with your FSB set back to 471 and see if it fails.
If so try adjusting clock skew to advanced 350ps, and your NB volts might require 1.51-1.53

Oz5000

11-25-2008, 01:59 AM

Hi,

I'm trying to get my HyperX ram to work with stock settings and I'd be grateful if you guys could take a look. I cant get past around 10 mins in the stability test in Everest.

E6850 at 3000 MHz (9X333)
Maximus Formula Bios 1201
2 sets of Kingston KHX8500D2/1GN (4 GB total in 1 GB sticks) (5-5-5-15 2.2v)

Below are the settings I have. The DRAM voltage is 2.14 because in Everest this gives me 2.24v

Which settings should I work with and should I be using Everest to test for stability or Memtest86+ or something else?

cheers,

Charlie

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 333
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1066MHz
DRAM Command Rate : AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.33
DRAM Voltage : 2.14
FSB Termination Voltage : AUTO
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : AUTO
PCIE Spread Spectrum : AUTO

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : AUTO
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Enabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : AUTO

nakata24

11-25-2008, 07:51 AM

May i ask what the best oc bios is for the maximus formula, cuz im still using 0602.

Forgot some, does this board also support 45 nm?

Barr3l Rid3r

11-25-2008, 10:33 AM

May i ask what the best oc bios is for the maximus formula, cuz im still using 0602.

Forgot some, does this board also support 45 nm?

601 from Rampage

Grnfinger

11-25-2008, 01:38 PM

May i ask what the best oc bios is for the maximus formula, cuz im still using 0602.

Forgot some, does this board also support 45 nm?

308 is the best bios to date for Rampage, It will give best bandwidth/performance 308 will support 45nm but not E0 stepping iirc
Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this

zlojack

11-25-2008, 02:19 PM

Didn't someone edit 0308 for E0 support?

I thought I read that somewhere...

Grnfinger

11-25-2008, 03:08 PM

I dont recall, I thought I needed 401 for my E8600.

You guys aware of BFG's offer to upgrade older AGP cards to PCI-E 9600GT or higher
I just got my old 6800 256mb upgraded to a 9600GT OC 512mb for teh low cost of shipping.
Could have got a 9800GT OC 512 for 50 bucks but then that would not be free

Barr3l Rid3r

11-25-2008, 03:23 PM

308 is the best bios to date for Rampage, It will give best bandwidth/performance 308 will support 45nm but not E0 stepping iirc
Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this

Well, bios 601 gives me a burst in OC... even more stable then 408 and 410, about the same as 308 but newer...

Grnfinger

11-25-2008, 04:00 PM

Well, bios 601 gives me a burst in OC... even more stable then 408 and 410, about the same as 308 but newer...

I'm running 601 and I dont see it, tref value is not the same as 308 and I have tested 4 chips, none overclocked any higher

Barr3l Rid3r

11-25-2008, 05:46 PM

I'm running 601 and I dont see it, tref value is not the same as 308 and I have tested 4 chips, none overclocked any higher

First I couldn`t get any higher then 530mhz fsb, and now I could bench @ 550Mhz FSB, I don`t know why, but before that, it couldn't even boot at 533mhz

nakata24

11-25-2008, 07:32 PM

thanx for the reply guys

Furiøùs

11-27-2008, 08:33 AM

Following settings result in blue screen of SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION / 0x00000000003B While running Prime95, OCCT, and Warhammer online. OCCT on mix and P95 on blend. Took about 50-60min before it blue-screened. I am posting on these settings as we speak.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 421
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1056

CLK Skews : Advance 250PS both channels.

DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Enabled

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.525v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 (Overvolts to 1.6v)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v
DRAM Voltage : 2.02 (Overvolts to 2.12v)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40 (Overvolts to 1.45v)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050v
Southbridge 1.5v Voltage : 1.5v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto

Furiøùs

11-27-2008, 08:47 AM

Ok it blue-screened a little after that.
Any idea's?

carepolice

11-27-2008, 08:56 AM

http://www.overclock.net/windows/177714-system_service_exception.html

But as your running Geforce its harder to say does it have something to do whit it.

ram, or even Vista corruption who knows.

OVERK|LL

11-27-2008, 11:47 AM

I'm running 601 and I dont see it, tref value is not the same as 308 and I have tested 4 chips, none overclocked any higher

Yeah, I haven't changed from 308 either. Found it gives the best performance RAM-wise......

MJR

11-27-2008, 12:55 PM

Jeebus those volts are xtreme

For a 8400 @ 4.0GHz try this for a start, and up vcore only till you get it.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-941

CLOCK SKEW Normal both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.35 (start here and adjust)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.55 ( once chip is stable try to lower)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55 - 1.51 (start high and lower if you can)
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.30 ( you may need to adjust this)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

What about with regular maximus bios? Or would you reccomend converting to Rampage to get 4.0 out of the the x38? I've got 8gb of RAM and I'm not sure if it's my board or the chip I got that's holding my OC back, but I'm hittign a wall at 3.7 (410fsb) right now. No matter what I do, I can barely get windows to boot over 410 and it hangs in the first minute if I do get in.

askimo

11-27-2008, 07:29 PM

I just upgrade my mem to 2x2Gb dims, but I'm not sure if I should use the Banks 1&3 or 2&4
Advice?

MJR

11-27-2008, 08:58 PM

Well, I took 2 sticks out and got a decent OC at 430fsb. Looks like the 4x 2gb RAM is not going to allow me to push this chip much further than 3.6.

Anyone have experience with fsb > 400 and 8gb of RAM on this board?

Grnfinger

11-28-2008, 03:47 AM

Ok it blue-screened a little after that.
Any idea's?

266 strap is hard on the MCH try alittle more NB juice

neo_rtr

11-28-2008, 10:34 AM

Hi After a long time i think is time to do some changes to my Maximus Formula Se.

I been running it since day 1 with a QX6700 @ 3.6Ghz 24/7

Iam thinking is i put the Rampage Formula 0601 Bios i might be able to get it a bit higher. My intention is 24/7 settings anything above 3.6Ghz

Any suggestions? Do you think will go higher?

kup

11-28-2008, 11:31 AM

So is 0601 really any better than 0308 for a non EO chip? What about a QX6850?

askimo

11-28-2008, 06:32 PM

I just upgrade my mem to 2x2Gb dims, but I'm not sure if I should use the Banks 1&3 or 2&4
Advice?

Nobody?

Zucker2k

11-28-2008, 06:41 PM

Nobody?It's a quiet weekend night; I use 1 & 3 for 2x2gb g.skills.

askimo

11-28-2008, 06:51 PM

It's a quiet weekend night; I use 1 & 3 for 2x2gb g.skills.

Thanks,

btw, DIMMS 1&2 don't work with Command Rate at 1N, just the 3&4

Grnfinger

11-29-2008, 05:33 AM

So is 0601 really any better than 0308 for a non EO chip? What about a QX6850?

I find 601 decent but didnt have a alot of time to play with it.
My Max X38 is off to Asus cause of Zucker2k :rofl:
308 is still best for bandwidth and if your happy on it no need to switch imo

chawks2

11-29-2008, 06:44 AM

Anyone have experience with fsb > 400 and 8gb of RAM on this board?

Here are my settings w/ my 8G GSKILL DDR2 1000. Dont have the time to oc as in the past, but it's a decent oc, 100% stable. This is an E8400 E0 rev.

Maximus "Rampage" Bios v0308 Settings

Ai Overclock Tuner: [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up: [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control: [9]
FSB Frequency: [475]
FSB Strap to North Bridge: [333]
PCIE Frequency: [102]
DRAM Frequency: [951]
DRAM Command Rate: [2N]
DRAM Clock Skew Channel A:[AUTO]
DRAM Clock Skew Channel B:[AUTO]
DRAM Timing Control: [Manual]
CAS# Latency: [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay: [5]
RAS# Precharge: [5]
RAS# Active Time: [15]
RAS# To Ras# Delay: [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time: [50]
Write Recovery Time: [6]
Read To Precharge Time: [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D): [8]
Write To Read Delay(S): [3]
Write To Read Delay(D): [5]
Read To Read Delay(S): [4]
Read To Read Delay(D): [6]
Write To Write Delay(S): [4]
Write To Write Delay(D): [6]
?:[14]
?:[5]
?:[1]
?:[6]
?:[6]
DRAM Static Read Control: [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister: [Stronger]
Transaction Booster: [Manual]
Common Performance Level: [9]
Pull-Ins-Disabled x 8

CPU Voltage: [1.42500v]
CPU PLL Voltage: [1.62]
North Bridge Voltage: [1.63v]
DRAM Voltage: [1.92v]
FSB Termination Voltage: [1.46v]
South Bridge Voltage: [1.100v]
SB 1.5:[1.5v]
Loadline Calibration: [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference: [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference: [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage: [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage: [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage: [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage: [Auto]
NB LED Selection: NB Volt
SB LED Selection: SB Volt
CPU LED Selection: CPU Volt
Voltimeter LED: Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

ACTUAL VOLTAGES

CPU Voltage: [1.40500v]
CPU PLL Voltage: [1.728]
North Bridge Voltage: [1.648v]
DRAM Voltage: [2.00v]
FSB Termination Voltage: [1.392v]
South Bridge Voltage: [1.100v]

Maximus "Rampage" Bios v0308 Settings

Furiøùs

11-29-2008, 08:12 AM

dude your PLL is insane. so is your NB voltage.. chill out man

nakata24

11-29-2008, 08:32 AM

I cant update the bios with 0601 and the rest of the rampage bios.
It says not able to open the file. The maximus bios are working fine,
but i really want that rampage bios. Can somebody help me :D

Zucker2k

11-29-2008, 08:36 AM

I cant update the bios with 0601 and the rest of the rampage bios.
It says not able to open the file. The maximus bios are working fine,
but i really want that rampage bios. Can somebody help me :DGo to first page and read the instructions.

@Grnfinger, lol.

chawks2

11-29-2008, 10:49 AM

dude your PLL is insane. so is your NB voltage.. chill out man

I have gone higher with this board. Temps are in line, so no biggie.

MJR

11-29-2008, 11:13 AM

dude your PLL is insane. so is your NB voltage.. chill out man

Unfortunately, the NB voltage often needs that much to get up there with 8gb of RAM on this board.

Grnfinger

11-29-2008, 01:34 PM

I have gone higher with this board. Temps are in line, so no biggie.

no biggie if you dont mind killing hardware:rolleyes:

I would try to lower FSBT, PLL , NB is not an issue if temps are under control.

nakata24

11-29-2008, 04:46 PM

Go to first page and read the instructions.

@Grnfinger, lol.

I did the same thing whats on the first page. It wont let me flash any of the
rampage bios, but i can flash the all the maximus bios.

Grnfinger

11-29-2008, 04:50 PM

I did the same thing whats on the first page. It wont let me flash any of the
rampage bios, but i can flash the all the maximus bios.

what is the error your getting?

nakata24

11-29-2008, 06:34 PM

finally flashed it, the 1st and 2nd time it was saying unable to open file.
After the 3rd time try it flashed. Im 100% i didnt misstype anything the 1 and 2 time,
maybe broken usb stick.

MJR

11-29-2008, 07:56 PM

Yep I did 471 FSB on 0308 Rampage BIOS with 1.61 NBv. I can POST at 500 FSB but it would just stop at the microsoft loading bar. Maybe if I was on water and crank up the NBv more it would probably boot.

I'm just getting used to this chip and figuring out what it like on this board, but overall I need less volts through the board than my e6700 needed. Like you though, I think I need my NB under water to give it enough volts to run much over 450 with my 8gb o RAM. I've gotten it to boot at 475fsb w/ 1.72 NBv, but it dumped shortly after.

Update: seems my NB temps and voltage are going to be a pain with this chip. Even at 420fsb i had a hard time adequately cooling the NB below 60c with the volts needed (1.68v) to keep the system solid. Looks like I'm tweaking the system at 400fsb until I can cool the NB down.

link_091

11-29-2008, 10:50 PM

Hello everyone again:) So, i finally changed my mobo, ( because as you remember my maximus couldn't do more than 430 FSB with my Q9550
I got P5Q Deluxe and now i can boot 470x8.5:)

MJR

11-29-2008, 10:57 PM

Hello everyone again:) So, i finally changed my mobo, ( because as you remember my maximus couldn't do more than 430 FSB with my Q9550
I got P5Q Deluxe and now i can boot 470x8.5:)

You feel like popping 8gb of RAM in there and tell me how it fares? I'm tempted to upgrade my mobo as well, but I need verification that it'll be worth my while.

Grnfinger

11-30-2008, 05:48 AM

You feel like popping 8gb of RAM in there and tell me how it fares? I'm tempted to upgrade my mobo as well, but I need verification that it'll be worth my while.

8GBs on the Maximus is easy, your problem is OCZ ram and this board dont play well.
GSkill, Mushkin and Corsair are good

Post your bios setup for what your trying for

MJR

11-30-2008, 07:25 AM

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : Auto
FSB Frequency : 420
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1008
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

14-5-1-6-6
Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [9]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.340 (CPU-Z)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.70v
DRAM Voltage : 2.0v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.60v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.150v
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.60v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto

Advanced CPU Configuration:
Everything Disabled

So far, this hasn't worked out too well for me. The best I can get it a boot into windows but the system blue screens after 30 seconds if it doesn't freeze before that.

The best stable config I've gotten so far is 400fsb, Performance level auto (13) and NB/SB voltages much less than that.

screwtech02

11-30-2008, 07:26 AM

+1 on the Gskill's, its all plug-n-play.......:cool:

MJR

11-30-2008, 07:31 AM

thus far, I haven't had any performance or compatibility issue w/ the OCZ sticks. I have to manually set the Row Refresh Cycle Time, but that's it.

One thing I've noticed with the Rampage bios is that is was easier to get the system to boot at different settings, but at the same time more difficult to get things stable. There is an ass load of setting in there.

Grnfinger

11-30-2008, 07:49 AM

Give me a little bit and I'll post some suggestions for stable 8GBs

MJR

11-30-2008, 07:54 AM

Give me a little bit and I'll post some suggestions for stable 8GBs

Thanks.

Zucker2k

11-30-2008, 07:55 AM

So far, this hasn't worked out too well for me. The best I can get it a boot into windows but the system blue screens after 30 seconds if it doesn't freeze before that.

The best stable config I've gotten so far is 400fsb, Performance level auto (13) and NB/SB voltages much less than that.:eek: Set performance level to 6, ram to 1066 5-5-5-4-18-55-10-5

MJR

11-30-2008, 08:32 AM

:eek: Set performance level to 6, ram to 1066 5-5-5-4-18-55-10-5

Not sure if my RAM will do that and the board definitely will not. Won't even get to bios with PL 6.

I can get PL 9 stable, but even 8 fails blend at 400fsb. I'll play with my voltages and try to get it rock solid at 400 to so I have a good baseline to work off of. 420 is a sweet spot for my config, if I can get there stable.

Update: got a 1hr blend stable 400fsb, PL9, 1.25vcore, 1.7vnb, 1.53fsb term.
What is the DIMM VTT and where is ti in the bios?

MJR

11-30-2008, 10:29 AM

OK, so I'm close to 420 stable now.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : Auto
FSB Frequency : 420
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1008
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

14-5-1-6-6
Write to PRE Delay : Auto
Read to PRE Delay : Auto
PRE to PRE Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : Auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: ?
Ai Clock Twister : ?
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [9]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : Auto (1.24v) hard setting this causes not to boot.
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.71v
DRAM Voltage : 2.06v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.58v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.150v
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.60v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto

Advanced CPU Configuration:
Everything Disabled

Not quite stable yet, although it does load Vista 64. I'd like to improve the performance level ans make this stable and call it a day. Any thoughts?

Grnfinger

11-30-2008, 11:14 AM

Suggestions are in bold

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : Auto
FSB Frequency : 420
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1008
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 4

8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

14-5-1-6-6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5 craps out use(6)
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5 craps out use(6)

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [9]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : Auto (1.24v) hard setting this causes not to boot.
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.71v really try to lower this
DRAM Voltage : 2.12v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.58v This is to high imo
South Bridge Voltage : 1.150v
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.60v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage :DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF

MJR

11-30-2008, 11:21 AM

Thanks. I suspect I am strong arming the system into booting with the NB and FSB term voltage. I'll make your suggested changes and try to lower those.

Grnfinger

11-30-2008, 01:52 PM

Thanks. I suspect I am strong arming the system into booting with the NB and FSB term voltage. I'll make your suggested changes and try to lower those.

keep us posted or your results:up:

Zucker2k

11-30-2008, 01:55 PM

Not sure if my RAM will do that and the board definitely will not. Won't even get to bios with PL 6.

I can get PL 9 stable, but even 8 fails blend at 400fsb. I'll play with my voltages and try to get it rock solid at 400 to so I have a good baseline to work off of. 420 is a sweet spot for my config, if I can get there stable.

Update: got a 1hr blend stable 400fsb, PL9, 1.25vcore, 1.7vnb, 1.53fsb term.
What is the DIMM VTT and where is ti in the bios?What bios are you on? We'll see if your board is a PL 6er or not. :p:

MJR

11-30-2008, 02:37 PM

What bios are you on? We'll see if your board is a PL 6er or not. :p:

Right now I'm on Rampage 0601. I made the conversion just for this chip.

I didn't make Grnfinger's suggested changes yet, but I dropped the buss to 416, dropped the RAm to 1:1, and at PL 9, I've got it blend stable for 90 minutes now. It's either the RAM only being rated at 1000mhz or the divider that was the problem. We'll see how it does, but this RAM never liked anything over 1000mhz. Tony even warned against trying to push it past that as they really aren't binned to do so.

I must say, this chip is a delight! 3.5 no problem, cool as can be and it wants LESS volts. VID on maximus bios was 1.1125, Rampage VID came up as 1.2125, but either way, I think I'll keep this thing for quite a while. Any thoughts on why it wants auto voltage instead of hard set?

I'll make Grnfingers changes and get back to yal'. Thanks for the help.

Zucker2k

11-30-2008, 02:44 PM

I noticed you have a PC-8000 ram so 1:1 is your best bet to eliminate ram instability. But at 416, you shoud be able to run PL7, 1:1.

MJR

11-30-2008, 02:50 PM

I noticed you have a PC-8000 ram so 1:1 is your best bet to eliminate ram instability. But at 416, you shoud be able to run PL7, 1:1.

well lets see then. I'll get back to you with results.

Grnfinger

11-30-2008, 02:58 PM

No sig Zucker2k?

Whats ya building???????

Zucker2k

11-30-2008, 03:06 PM

No sig Zucker2k?

Whats ya building???????Nothing mate, same old hardware :up: I'm giving Nehalem a wide berth, performance margin over my current system isn't worth the switch for me. Yeah, it'll mean I'd be a noob when I finally switch :rofl: but I swear I'm a quick learner. :ROTF:

Grnfinger

11-30-2008, 03:26 PM

I have a i7920 cpu no ram yet nor a mobo, looking hard at the rampage and some corsair
going to build from scratch so I need another H2O setup case psu ect ect... hope to have it powerd up by xmas.

Zucker2k

11-30-2008, 03:35 PM

I have a i7920 cpu no ram yet nor a mobo, looking hard at the rampage and some corsair
going to build from scratch so I need another H2O setup case psu ect ect... hope to have it powerd up by xmas.Cool, guess you can call it an xmas gift to yourself :) Run some benches afterwards and I'll put my Q9550 against it so we can see the performance difference.

MJR

11-30-2008, 03:41 PM

Right now I'm at 420fsb, PL 8. Blend is doing fine for almost an hour now. Should I burn this one in or see how much higher I can go with these settings? I woudl like to hit 450 if possible.

Zucker2k

11-30-2008, 03:43 PM

With a Mximus Formula, it's a roll of the dice, but with luck, you should be able to make it.

MJR

11-30-2008, 03:50 PM

How low do shoudl I be able to get the PL at this speed?

Grnfinger

11-30-2008, 04:14 PM

450FSB PL7 should be the limit

SpuTnicK

11-30-2008, 06:58 PM

Just wondering...
Is there results of this MoBo going 600MHz on FSB? Does it needs to be voltmoded for this reason?

Zucker2k

11-30-2008, 07:03 PM

Just wondering...
Is there results of this MoBo going 600MHz on FSB? Does it needs to be voltmoded for this reason?No, you have more than what you'll need for 600fsb.

t_ski

11-30-2008, 09:20 PM

I need some advice trying to get my ram stable at 500MHz. CPU is stable up to 4.0GHz, so I'm testing it lower (3.2GHz).

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.0
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto (266 IIRC to get ram @ 500)
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1003
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 45
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Tried all settings
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level tried 7 & 8

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.35v (reads 1.336v)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50v (reads 1.6v)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.59v (reads 1.6v)
DRAM Voltage : 2.08v (reads 2.16V)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4v (reads 1.328v)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10v (reads 1.12v)
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.60v (reads 1.63v)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF (reads 1.072v)

Advanced CPU Configuration:
Everything Disabled

Prime95 errors out after 5-10 minutes each time.

System specs are:

Maximus Formula (Rampage Mod) 308 BIOS
2 x 2gb G.Skill PC2-8000
QX9650
Dual 4870X2's in CrossfireX
4 x 250 GB Seagate drives (Raid 0/5)
Noctua NH-U12P with dual fans
Thermaltake Spedo case w/five 120mm fans, one 140mm fan and two 230mm fans
Thermaltake 850W PSU

The Nemesis

11-30-2008, 09:28 PM

I have a i7920 cpu no ram yet nor a mobo, looking hard at the rampage and some corsair
going to build from scratch so I need another H2O setup case psu ect ect... hope to have it powerd up by xmas.

Putting together RII Extreme i7 920 and CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB DDR3 1600. Will be moving the Apogee GTZ and PA120.2 over for cooling cpu. Not sure about the NB cooler yet. I'll let you know how everything goes.
And I know this won't offer me any major performance increase in gaming over my current asus builds but hell I'm a bencher

MJR

12-01-2008, 09:58 AM

I need some advice trying to get my ram stable at 500MHz. CPU is stable up to 4.0GHz, so I'm testing it lower (3.2GHz).

Prime95 errors out after 5-10 minutes each time.

system specs?

t_ski

12-01-2008, 06:35 PM

Sorry (I'm used to having them in my siggy everywhere else). System specs are:

Maximus Formula (Rampage Mod) 308 BIOS
2 x 2gb G.Skill PC2-8000
QX9650
Dual 4870X2's in CrossfireX
4 x 250 GB Seagate drives (Raid 0/5)
Noctua NH-U12P with dual fans
Thermaltake Spedo case w/five 120mm fans, one 140mm fan and two 230mm fans
Thermaltake 850W PSU

I have tried running the ram at DDR-1000 (NB @ 266), DDR-961 (NB @ 333) and both did not work. Saw a PDF file on the G.Skill site that lists the BIOS settings for this ram with this board, and it said to put the CPU at 333, the NB at 266 and the ram at DDR-1000 (or 1003 maybe) with all other ram settings at Auto. I did this with the CPU at stock speed and voltages. Same thing happened - no more than 5 minutes of Prime.

It seems the only thing I can get this ram stable at is DDR-800 with Auto timings (5-5-5-15). Unfortunatley, that makes the bandwidth suck (around 6300 MB/s). Running the ram at DDR-1000 gave a nice little boost (around 7600 MB/s) so I would like to do that and run the CPU around 4 GHz like I had it before.

MJR

12-01-2008, 08:08 PM

I need some advice trying to get my ram stable at 500MHz. CPU is stable up to 4.0GHz, so I'm testing it lower (3.2GHz).

FSB Strap to North Bridge : not sure about this
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Read to Precharge Time : might need this at 4

Ai Clock Twister : Moderate to light
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level: 8 or 9 (if 8 doesn't work)

North Bridge Voltage : raise this as needed, maybe <1.6
FSB Termination Voltage : raise this as needed, maybe <1.5
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF (reads 1.072v)

suggestions are in bold.
the Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55 is a must as far as I know, the rest is what made the difference for me but of course voltages can vary from board to board.

MJR

12-01-2008, 09:42 PM

Update on my Q9550/Maximus ventures...

I'm locked in at 430, PL8. Pretty sure I'm stuck there. Tried everything I knew but no go. Any suggestions guys? Can I egt PL7 at this speed or are there other settings to squeak out some xtra performance?

tiesum

12-02-2008, 02:53 AM

Hi Guys,

A quick question here.

I have a set of Crucial Ballistix PC8500 2 x 1 GB (D9GMH:up:) RAM. For a contest I'm trying to find the highest (superpi 1 M stable) speed at 5-5-5-15. What are the most loose timings for the other settings? It's not about the most effective timings, but about maximum DRAM Frequency. How far can I go in Voltage without frying my beloved RAM?

Thanks!

scottath

12-02-2008, 03:20 AM

i would say maybe 2.5v max for a quick session - just make sure you have some form of cooling on them (dual 80mm fans etc)

tiesum

12-02-2008, 03:25 AM

i would say maybe 2.5v max for a quick session - just make sure you have some form of cooling on them (dual 80mm fans etc)

Thanks for the quick response. I'll use a big fast fan on them. What about the timings? Any idea? Is just setting all the timings to their maximum a good idea?

scottath

12-02-2008, 03:37 AM

i havent tried much with my timings - just 5-5-5-15 and the rest auto....i have got to 1200mhz with my 800mhz sticks.
So i have no idea about the other 2 sets of subtimings.....sorry
just note - 2.5v MAY be a bit excessive.....may want to wait on anothers responce before trying that high.....

t_ski

12-02-2008, 04:20 AM

FSB Strap to North Bridge : not sure about this
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55 Auto in BIOS is 52. I tried 55 before and got really long boot times. 50 gave a nice response, and 45 is the EPP setting
Read to Precharge Time : might need this at 4 have not tried

Ai Clock Twister : Moderate to light I've tried all six settings, from Auto to Lighter to Stronger. Mostly tested light/lighter, as I was trying to get it stable
Transaction Booster : Manual done
Common Performance Level: 8 or 9 (if 8 doesn't work) I have tried 7, 8 and 9 already (9 since the original post)

North Bridge Voltage : raise this as needed, maybe <1.6 NB was already at 1.59v in BIOS, reading 1.6v. Dou you mean >1.6v?
FSB Termination Voltage : raise this as needed, maybe <1.5 I have tested 1.4v to 1.55v
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF have not tried
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFhave not tried
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF (reads 1.072v)
the Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55 is a must as far as I know, the rest is what made the difference for me but of course voltages can vary from board to board.

Comments are added above in bold. I'm not trying to be a "negative Nancy" but I have tried nearly all those settings, most of which were altered one at a time (basic setup was entered and tested, then settings were manipulated from there). I'm willing to try more if you guys can steer me in the right direction.

MJR

12-02-2008, 05:42 AM

try these exact settings and see if it works. Once you get it stable you can try to lower the voltages if you like.

FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : 4

Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level: 8

North Bridge Voltage : 1.65v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.55v
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF (reads 1.072v)

MJR

12-02-2008, 12:24 PM

OK guys, so as I said earlier, I got my system stable at 430fsb.

Right now my volts are:
1.7v nb
1.6v fsb term

How safe is that? or am I going to kill something?

Grnfinger

12-02-2008, 01:05 PM

OK guys, so as I said earlier, I got my system stable at 430fsb.

Right now my volts are:
1.7v nb
1.6v fsb term

How safe is that? or am I going to kill something?

Thats alot of NB juice, if temps are ok then it should be fine but I would really try to lower it.

FSBT is way to high for 24/7 use, it needs to be lowerd ALOT

Comments are added above in bold. I'm not trying to be a "negative Nancy" but I have tried nearly all those settings, most of which were altered one at a time (basic setup was entered and tested, then settings were manipulated from there). I'm willing to try more if you guys can steer me in the right direction.

What are you trying for ?
Post your hardware as well please.

t_ski

12-02-2008, 02:01 PM

What are you trying for ?
Post your hardware as well please.

I am just trying to get my ram to run at DDR2-1000 like it is rated at. System specs were listed at the top of the page, but here they are again:

Maximus Formula (Rampage Mod) 308 BIOS
2 x 2gb G.Skill PC2-8000
QX9650
Dual 4870X2's in CrossfireX
4 x 250 GB Seagate drives (Raid 0/5)
Noctua NH-U12P with dual fans
Thermaltake Spedo case w/five 120mm fans, one 140mm fan and two 230mm fans
Thermaltake 850W PSU

t_ski

12-02-2008, 02:03 PM

Grnfinger

12-02-2008, 03:51 PM

I am just trying to get my ram to run at DDR2-1000 like it is rated at. System specs were listed at the top of the page, but here they are again:

Maximus Formula (Rampage Mod) 308 BIOS
2 x 2gb G.Skill PC2-8000
QX9650
Dual 4870X2's in CrossfireX
4 x 250 GB Seagate drives (Raid 0/5)
Noctua NH-U12P with dual fans
Thermaltake Spedo case w/five 120mm fans, one 140mm fan and two 230mm fans
Thermaltake 850W PSU

You have tested dimms with memtest?

Assuming the answer is yes...getting your quad to 500FSB for 1000MHz ram is highly unlikely on this board.
It will require alot of volts that will not be a great 24/7 setup.

for 4.0GHz and best ram I would run

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

This will give you decent bandwidth and allow for resonable volts

Now if your ram can do it there is this alternative

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1132
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

w0lla

12-03-2008, 12:04 AM

So while remounting my cpu cooler I noticed that the screws on the NB heatsink were "loose", so I screwed them all in, and my NB temps went higher :S What is this, has this happened to anyone else ?

running a NB voltage at 1.47, temps around 65-67'C when blending in prime95, it is idling at 59-60'C.SB is almost allways around 52-55'C

Q6600@400x8, vcore 1.28. HD4870x2.

MJR

12-03-2008, 07:28 AM

MJR

12-03-2008, 07:30 AM

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

I've never been able to get this to work. I know it will increase performance, but I'm at 430fsb right now,

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [8]

What can I do to get over that hump?

chawks2

12-03-2008, 11:04 AM

I've never been able to get this to work. I know it will increase performance, but I'm at 430fsb right now

Have you tried to see what max FSB you can get by lowering the multiplier?

Grnfinger

12-03-2008, 12:07 PM

I've never been able to get this to work. I know it will increase performance, but I'm at 430fsb right now,

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [8]

What can I do to get over that hump?

Hell I can get it at 500FSB and higher
430 is not your problem, it would be your ram.
I would remove 4GB's run 2x2GB's and start clocking up, to find your max MHz

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/TEST4_505.png

kup

12-03-2008, 12:23 PM

Grn, what ram is that @ 1200MHz?

MJR

12-03-2008, 12:50 PM

Hell I can get it at 500FSB and higher
430 is not your problem, it would be your ram.
I would remove 4GB's run 2x2GB's and start clocking up, to find your max MHz

I know my board will hit 450+ as I did that with my e6700 and some ballistix. At this point I'm only interested in what I can do with 8gb or RAM. My RAM is rated for 1000mhz. Does RAM have FSB walls as well? I just assumed this RAM would be good all the way up to 500fsb 1:1. I'll get some new RAM if that'll help, but I want to max out performance on this board with 8gb of RAM.

Grnfinger

12-03-2008, 01:17 PM

Grn, what ram is that @ 1200MHz?

Dominators version 1.2 Micron D9GMH

I know my board will hit 450+ as I did that with my e6700 and some ballistix. At this point I'm only interested in what I can do with 8gb or RAM. My RAM is rated for 1000mhz. Does RAM have FSB walls as well? I just assumed this RAM would be good all the way up to 500fsb 1:1. I'll get some new RAM if that'll help, but I want to max out performance on this board with 8gb of RAM.

8GBs will be hard on the NB.
I would remove 4GBs and find your max MHz running 4GB's.
Once you have 4GBs stable you can make concessions to get/keep 8GBs stable.
Because your ram is rated for 1000MHz dosent mean 8GBs will run that fast, there is a trade off...So depending on what you want for a cpu clock you might want to look at better ram, I mean no offence but that ram is far from the best and Asus boards are not very OCZ friendly at times.
Post what your ideal setup would be
FSB
Multi
Divider
Ram MHz

Then various setups can be tested, I have the same board and chip, altho not OCZ I have 8GB's of Mushkin XP-2 I can use.

MJR

12-03-2008, 02:04 PM

Dominators version 1.2 Micron D9GMH

8GBs will be hard on the NB.
I would remove 4GBs and find your max MHz running 4GB's.
Once you have 4GBs stable you can make concessions to get/keep 8GBs stable.
Because your ram is rated for 1000MHz dosent mean 8GBs will run that fast, there is a trade off...So depending on what you want for a cpu clock you might want to look at better ram, I mean no offence but that ram is far from the best and Asus boards are not very OCZ friendly at times.
Post what your ideal setup would be
FSB
Multi
Divider
Ram MHz

Then various setups can be tested, I have the same board and chip, altho not OCZ I have 8GB's of Mushkin XP-2 I can use.

No offense taken. The best part of the RAM (maybe the only good part) is that its shinny heat spreaders match the OCZ cooler I have. I'll test 4GB and consider upgrading the RAM. Honestly, if you think it's likely I'll get 450+ with some better RAM, I'll order some new stuff. This Q9550 and Maximus board will not go to waste due to the RAM. I can promise.

What would be the recommended RAM for 8gb on this board?

adrenaline7879

12-03-2008, 03:54 PM

Well it seems my single sided tracers decided they needed to lay to rest. Had them running at 1081 for quite some time. Would love to hit 3.8 with a 2x2 set if someone could help me with my decision. Also have plans to get MF2 after the holidays :up:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010170147%201052315794&StoreType=-1&CompareItemList=N82E16820231166%2cN82E16820231184% 2cN82E16820145197%2cN82E16820231194&page=2&bop=And

Grnfinger

12-03-2008, 04:05 PM

I have this kit and there great, if you have the budget then I would get them

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231194

Grnfinger

12-03-2008, 05:11 PM

No offense taken. The best part of the RAM (maybe the only good part) is that its shinny heat spreaders match the OCZ cooler I have. I'll test 4GB and consider upgrading the RAM. Honestly, if you think it's likely I'll get 450+ with some better RAM, I'll order some new stuff. This Q9550 and Maximus board will not go to waste due to the RAM. I can promise.

What would be the recommended RAM for 8gb on this board?

Mushkin Redlines would be a good choice there a decent performer
with this setup you should be golden

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : Auto
FSB Frequency : 420
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266 or 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1000-1066 are
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 4

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 10
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 6
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : lighter
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level 8
concessions can be made after the rig is stable to tweak maximum performance.

Grnfinger

12-03-2008, 05:14 PM

actually you could try this timing on your OCZ and see how it works out for you.

I have tested this for 45 mins and it passed prime blend and memtest, just a thought.

Zucker2k

12-03-2008, 06:11 PM

Get this instead, it'll easily overclock past DDR2 1100; hell you could get two kits for that price. I'm about to pull the trigger for 4x2GB of this particular kit. I'm tired of being limited by ram. Look out for 4.3Ghz on my Q9550 when I get my dirty hands on them.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231211

Edit: Hold on guys; looks like these are only good for 1:1 up to 960MHZ. I'll update if I find out anything else.

Edit: @ Grnfinger: what is the max frequency on 8800 PI?

MJR

12-03-2008, 06:13 PM

So I tried with only 2 DIMMs and sure enough, it boots at 440 and 450 (although it crashes pretty quickly) which tells me the 8gb is definitely holding me back since I can't get a click over 435 with 8gb. To tell the truth, after looking at RAM prices I think I'll hold off for now. If I see a nice set on sale anytime soon I'll probably scoop it up, but there is no guarantee this board will take a divider at this speed with 8gb even if the RAM can do it. If anything, I might actually get just one set of good RAM for benching and playing with, but stick with my current setup for 24/7 use.

MJR

12-03-2008, 06:17 PM

Get this instead, it'll easily overclock past DDR2 1100; hell you could get two kits for that price. I'm about to pull the trigger for 4x2GB of this particular kit. I'm tired of being limited by ram. Look out for 4.3Ghz on my Q9550 when I get my dirty hands on them.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231211

You make a compelling argument. 4ghz with 8gb RAM, 24/7 stable and safe would be nice. :yepp:

I didn't know if those sticks were worth it or not. Guess I'll have to wait and see what you do with them, although duplicating your results never is easy.

t_ski

12-03-2008, 06:19 PM

You have tested dimms with memtest?

Assuming the answer is yes...getting your quad to 500FSB for 1000MHz ram is highly unlikely on this board.
It will require alot of volts that will not be a great 24/7 setup.

for 4.0GHz and best ram I would run

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

This will give you decent bandwidth and allow for resonable volts

Now if your ram can do it there is this alternative

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1132
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]
I'm not really trying to get the CPU to 500 MHz FSB, just the ram. If I run it at the right speed & divider, it puts the ram up to 500 FSB. I just want to get it stable there :(

Thanks for the info. Wife is out of town the next couple of days, so I will either tweak or put in the watercooling. Can't decide which yet :(

adrenaline7879

12-03-2008, 06:26 PM

thanx grnfinger, cant wait to get my MFII

t_ski

12-03-2008, 06:57 PM

Zucker2k

12-03-2008, 07:38 PM

You make a compelling argument. 4ghz with 8gb RAM, 24/7 stable and safe would be nice. :yepp:

I didn't know if those sticks were worth it or not. Guess I'll have to wait and see what you do with them, although duplicating your results never is easy.It's actually nothing, you gotta pay attention to how your chip is interacting with your mobo. Best thing is to have NB running cool. My NB never tops 40C under load even with 1.75v. The two crucial things, as far as the cpu is concerned, is vtt and gtl. CPUPLL is not as crucial as the other two. My stock cpupll is around 1.58v and I rarely get it any higher than. Sometimes, it is best to leave gtl on auto (I know I myself, am guilty of trying to set everything manually). I achieved this overclock with lowest volts all around... and gtl set to auto. You just have to pay attention to the behavior of your components as you push them... ;)

8x450 (3.6Ghz)
http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/f69b78fbc5cd51987025f8752e6a4587.jpg

All settings for the above overclock can be found here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3194480&postcount=964

MJR

12-03-2008, 07:44 PM

I've known for a while that I need some better NB cooling. Right now I have an ANtec spot cool on the NB, but it can get a little out of hand when the fans are turned down. Honestly, I don' t know if my NB has EVER been as low as 40c. Do you have h20 on your NB? Maybe it's time I get a nb block for this thing.

MJR

12-03-2008, 07:50 PM

dude! I just actually looked at your volts! That's just not right! You know ur only pouring salt on my wounds by showing me that... :lol2:

Zucker2k

12-03-2008, 07:56 PM

dude! I just actually looked at your volts! That's just not right! You know ur only pouring salt on my wounds by showing me that... :lol2::D I know.... I also just run a quick test to see show these results can be duplicated... both chip and board are different, same ram. cpu volts are high, forgot to change them for this run.

Edit: OF COURSE, I"M RUNNING ON WATER!!! :p:

http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/cfacabb5ee0c2ad4aa60fc410580470e.jpg

tiesum

12-03-2008, 10:56 PM

Grnfinger

12-04-2008, 03:48 AM

Zucker2k

12-04-2008, 09:48 AM

Max is 1147MHz @ 1.9 volts, I can squeeze alittle more if I up the volts to 2.0
There not a bad kit for the money just wont do 1200MHzThe binning on that series is very tight indeed; my 8500s can do that. Anyway, I got 2 kits of the 7200s 4-4-4-12 coming. I'm excited, maybe I can get dd2 1066 cas 4; that'll be awesome.

Grnfinger

12-04-2008, 09:53 AM

There the rejects IC's from the 9600 series, I like them cause they run at 1.9volts for 1132MHz. Not a stellar kit for sure and no records will be set using them
My Dominators are still the best

MJR

12-04-2008, 12:24 PM

I think I'll get my NB under H2o before I get new memory. After a little research, i see the EK s-max is the way to go.

However, I'm still considering new memory. What's the real difference between the
8500 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231184
8800 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231194
and the 7200 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231211 ?

Also, what about any of the Crucial Ballistix or Tracer 2x2 kits?

Allubz

12-04-2008, 01:23 PM

Probably posted (a few times) already, but here's a RAM list with the chips on them if you're planning on upgrading:
http://ramlist.i4memory.com/ddr2/

I know the list isn't complete so make sure you Google your thing before you buy it. You're looking to buy the Micron D9GKX chips if possible.

MJR

12-04-2008, 04:16 PM

does that list apply to 2gb sticks?

t_ski

12-04-2008, 07:21 PM

I am just not having any kind of luck with these sticks. Both MJR and Grnfinger's settingsdid me no good. Now I am seriously doubting these sticks, but I also have doubt about the NB. As Zucker2k said, NB needs to be cool. Mine usually runs about 54C when the voltage is pushed to it. Right now at stock with all fans on high (1.34V) it's still over 43C w/stock cooling. I want to put the S-Max and EK Supreme back in sooooooo bad... :(

w0lla

12-04-2008, 10:59 PM

ur probably bowing the board causing poor contact with the core. don't over tighten the screws.

I tried to loosen them again, it got a bit better. I guess my 4870x2 pushes the temps up :S

I noticed one more weird thing, I got my NB set at 1.45v in bios, checking it in windows (via everest) it fluctuates between 1.39/.42/.46/1.49v (idle), its jumping between those values constantly. While intelburning or prime:ing it usually is steady 1.47v. Is this normal?

MJR

12-05-2008, 08:45 AM

I got an EK nb s-max on the way. It'll be interesting to to see how much difference this makes with my current hardware. IF it doesn't help my RAM overclocking, I'll definitely be investing in some new sticks.

Zucker2k

12-06-2008, 05:54 AM

I got the F2-7200CL4 PIs, all 8GBs of tightly binned ics. Anyway, I have them running at 1:1 @ 942Mhz 4-4-3-12, 2.18v PL7; 5-5-5-15 is good up to 1060 and no more. The bandwidth is good however, I'll post screenies later. Here is a little something for you guys with the quads...

#25 on the world record database for Q9550, :D

http://en.ripping.org/database.php?cpuid=634

Grnfinger

12-06-2008, 06:32 AM

Very nice m8 :up:

Zucker2k

12-06-2008, 01:46 PM

Very nice m8 :up:Thanks Cory, some bandwidth screenies.

Edit: I needed 1.55v VNB to make this stable: MCI win memtest verified.

youraa

12-06-2008, 03:04 PM

Hi guys sorry for the lame question but gotta change from q6600 to q9550 tomorrow nad get the machine stable for work, what would be the best one?
recently I'm on 907, working on 3600 450x8 900Mhz.
Thx for the help!

jtf2

12-06-2008, 06:06 PM

would the nb waterblock heatsink on the maximus formula se,work well enough as a passive air heatsink,as in no water going thru it?/
thnx

clip

12-06-2008, 06:56 PM

no, but :)

ffs wut time is it *dazed & confused* - passive Wb is silly

nn

jtf2

12-06-2008, 07:14 PM

no, but :)

ffs wut time is it *dazed & confused* - passive Wb is silly

nn

only reason i am asking is i may have borked my rampage formula,i have a line on the mf se board,but do not want to watercool the nb

Jodiuh

12-06-2008, 10:26 PM

Mine usually runs about 54C when the voltage is pushed to it. Right now at stock with all fans on high (1.34V) it's still over 43C w/stock cooling.

If you have the non nipple version, a quiet low CFM fan like the one off a Jing Ting NB cooler works extremely well. I stuck some plastic pins in the holes to secure it. It cools about 5-7C better on my setup. Currently running @ 38C or so w/ 1.33V to it.

Images are clickable and I've since cut down the pins to a better size.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jodiuh/Asus%20Maximus/th_IMG_2271.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jodiuh/Asus%20Maximus/?action=view&current=IMG_2271.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jodiuh/Asus%20Maximus/th_IMG_2270.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jodiuh/Asus%20Maximus/?action=view&current=IMG_2270.jpg)

Grnfinger

12-07-2008, 05:07 AM

only reason i am asking is i may have borked my rampage formula,i have a line on the mf se board,but do not want to watercool the nb

With good air flow there is no need to water cool the NB if you have the fuzion block.
I would point a fan at it to help keep temps in check, but as long as your NB stays around 47-50c full load then it wont be an issue

Hi guys sorry for the lame question but gotta change from q6600 to q9550 tomorrow nad get the machine stable for work, what would be the best one?
recently I'm on 907, working on 3600 450x8 900Mhz.
Thx for the help!

1004 was best for me, but if your Q9550 is E0 you will nedd bios 1207 iirc or higher
Someone correct me if I'm wrong please.

t_ski

12-07-2008, 06:38 PM

If you have the non nipple version, a quiet low CFM fan like the one off a Jing Ting NB cooler works extremely well. I stuck some plastic pins in the holes to secure it. It cools about 5-7C better on my setup. Currently running @ 38C or so w/ 1.33V to it.

Images are clickable and I've since cut down the pins to a better size.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jodiuh/Asus%20Maximus/th_IMG_2271.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jodiuh/Asus%20Maximus/?action=view&current=IMG_2271.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jodiuh/Asus%20Maximus/th_IMG_2270.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v212/jodiuh/Asus%20Maximus/?action=view&current=IMG_2270.jpg)

I had a 70mm fan off an AMD stock heatsink on it a while back and it worked wonders. Right now that's a bit too big for the Noctua I have on there right now. I just used a couple screws from the heatsink to put it in there (watching for any metal that may have come off the heatsink when the screws went in of course).

rangerone7669

12-07-2008, 06:48 PM

i'm in need of new ram for my MF. i'm looking for a 2x2gig kit, whick kits are running the best in this board?

i'm running a q6600 and is very picky with settings while running 4x1gig sticks. its wierd because with a e8400 4x1gig is easy as pie.

Allubz

12-08-2008, 01:51 AM

youraa

12-08-2008, 02:46 AM

1004 was best for me, but if your Q9550 is E0 you will nedd bios 1207 iirc or higher
Someone correct me if I'm wrong please.

Unfortunately, I've got the C1 version with a vid 1.200, got it from a friend, it's from april this year, I have the 1207 bios installed

right now I have 3.6 (8.5x 400) strap 333, on 1.185 cpu v ??? and it's quite stable.
I booted 3.74 but didn't get it stable yet, My aim is 450x8,5 but still no luck in booting to it:(((
Would you think that bios change could do the trick? I mean downgrade the bios from the newest version?
Maybe somenoe can post his setting to achieve that? :))thx!

Or maybe I need higher operating RAM?? I mean at least 1066mhz hmmm I'm a bit lost here,on my q6600 it worked 450x8 easy on strap 400, and i had stable 3.6, is there a fsb problem over 400mhz with this cpu?

Grnfinger

12-08-2008, 12:57 PM

has ne1 tested Bios version 0701 for Rampage Formula dated 11/27/2008?

Unfortunately, I've got the C1 version with a vid 1.200, got it from a friend, it's from april this year, I have the 1207 bios installed

right now I have 3.6 (8.5x 400) strap 333, on 1.185 cpu v ??? and it's quite stable.
I booted 3.74 but didn't get it stable yet, My aim is 450x8,5 but still no luck in booting to it:(((
Would you think that bios change could do the trick? I mean downgrade the bios from the newest version?
Maybe somenoe can post his setting to achieve that? :))thx!

Or maybe I need higher operating RAM?? I mean at least 1066mhz hmmm I'm a bit lost here,on my q6600 it worked 450x8 easy on strap 400, and i had stable 3.6, is there a fsb problem over 400mhz with this cpu?

When I had my Q9550 in the Maximus X38 running Rampage bios 308 my max was 433 FSB anything above that it would not post.
Rampage bios 701 is supposed to resolve this issue, this is why I ask'd if anyone tested it yet.
My Q9950 on M2F will hit 496FSb so its not a cpu problem its a chipset issue.

Here is my rampage 3.825GHz setting, I'm sure you could adapt it

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1021

CLOCK SKEW Normal both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : W/E your cpu needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.22
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

rangerone7669

12-08-2008, 02:12 PM

What runs best in what terms?

Do you want high performance RAM or value RAM?

Nearly any stick does it job pretty well on the MF / RF board and the overclocking potential is mainly determined by the chipset used.

If you want high quality RAM then simply get G.Skill / Cellshock / Team Xtreme and the likes. Just check the DDR2 list I posted here before (not mine) and see what sticks got Micron chips or Google the ones you find in the net and see whether they clock high.

There's another very good (newer) chip out there just like the two top-end Microns, but I forgot what it's called.

i'm looking for a 4gig kit thats NOT micron based and can run 1066-1100mhz. i dont want to spend $300 on the 1200mhz gskills, i want to try and keep the price at about 100 or less.

i have a set of 2x1gig axerams that run 1280mhz, but i really need 4gigs for what i do.

i'm just asking what 4gig kits people have had good luck running with a q6600.
like i said in a previous post, with a e8400 in my MF i can run 4x1gigs at 1150 no sweat, but put the quad in and it gets very picky about settings and needs 2.3volts on the dram and 1.7 on the nb for 24/7 stability.

Grnfinger

12-08-2008, 02:23 PM

i'm looking for a 4gig kit thats NOT micron based and can run 1066-1100mhz. i dont want to spend $300 on the 1200mhz gskills, i want to try and keep the price at about 100 or less.

i have a set of 2x1gig axerams that run 1280mhz, but i really need 4gigs for what i do.

i'm just asking what 4gig kits people have had good luck running with a q6600.
like i said in a previous post, with a e8400 in my MF i can run 4x1gigs at 1150 no sweat, but put the quad in and it gets very picky about settings and needs 2.3volts on the dram and 1.7 on the nb for 24/7 stability.

Many good kits out there
imo avoid OCZ and Crucial

1. Corsair (any model)
2. GSkill
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231148
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231195
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166 ( best choice imo)
3. Mushkin

youraa

12-08-2008, 03:23 PM

has ne1 tested Bios version 0701 for Rampage Formula dated 11/27/2008?

When I had my Q9550 in the Maximus X38 running Rampage bios 308 my max was 433 FSB anything above that it would not post.
Rampage bios 701 is supposed to resolve this issue, this is why I ask'd if anyone tested it yet.
My Q9950 on M2F will hit 496FSb so its not a cpu problem its a chipset issue.

Here is my rampage 3.825GHz setting, I'm sure you could adapt it

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1021

CLOCK SKEW Normal both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : W/E your cpu needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.22
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

many thx! will try to play with that, and I will do pictures of my kinda stable setting 3655(without stress tests gaming+work+internet :)

Now my NB is much lower than when I shot these it's 1.51 :))) - the 1.61 was a q6600 setting

Zucker2k

12-08-2008, 03:45 PM

i'm looking for a 4gig kit thats NOT micron based and can run 1066-1100mhz. i dont want to spend $300 on the 1200mhz gskills, i want to try and keep the price at about 100 or less.

i have a set of 2x1gig axerams that run 1280mhz, but i really need 4gigs for what i do.

i'm just asking what 4gig kits people have had good luck running with a q6600.
like i said in a previous post, with a e8400 in my MF i can run 4x1gigs at 1150 no sweat, but put the quad in and it gets very picky about settings and needs 2.3volts on the dram and 1.7 on the nb for 24/7 stability.Since I picked up 8GBs of the 7200s, my PC2-8500 G.Skills 4GB kit is up for sale. The sticks do 1100+ easy. I managed to push them all the way to 1180 one time. These are very good sticks, I've seen no other sticks of this particular series reach the frequency these sticks have. PM me if interested.

PS: I'll be posting my results with the 7200s soon.

rangerone7669

12-08-2008, 04:19 PM

Many good kits out there
imo avoid OCZ and Crucial

1. Corsair (any model)
2. GSkill
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231148
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231195
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166 ( best choice imo)
3. Mushkin

Since I picked up 8GBs of the 7200s, my PC2-8500 G.Skills 4GB kit is up for sale. The sticks do 1100+ easy. I managed to push them all the way to 1180 one time. These are very good sticks, I've seen no other sticks of this particular series reach the frequency these sticks have. PM me if interested.

PS: I'll be posting my results with the 7200s soon.

i've been looking at gskill's, but i've never used them. glad to see others have had good luck with them.

MJR

12-08-2008, 05:38 PM

to update the Rampage bios on the Maximus Formula do I need to use Afudos again? or can I use Asus update? I'm brave, I'll test the 0701 release.

MJR

12-08-2008, 05:45 PM

youraa

12-09-2008, 03:33 AM

to update the Rampage bios on the Maximus Formula do I need to use Afudos again? or can I use Asus update? I'm brave, I'll test the 0701 release.

Where can I download it from? Maybe it would solve the issue of the chipset block on 430fsb, and finally I could hit 3.825 :))

Grnfinger

12-09-2008, 03:38 AM

Where can I download it from? Maybe it would solve the issue of the chipset block on 430fsb, and finally I could hit 3.825 :))

http://cid-988b91f35a949678.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/rampage-asus-formula-0701.rom

youraa

12-09-2008, 03:52 AM

http://cid-988b91f35a949678.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/rampage-asus-formula-0701.rom

thx :) I added above the screenshots of my bios settings

youraa

12-09-2008, 04:14 AM

to update the Rampage bios on the Maximus Formula do I need to use Afudos again? or can I use Asus update? I'm brave, I'll test the 0701 release.

Let us know the results :) maybe finally it could go over 430fsb :))
Oh and what is your VID? Do you have a C1 version?

junkun13

12-09-2008, 08:51 AM

help! I'm having random crashes with this settings, sometimes it gives me memory dump error, sometimes it will restart instantly specially when i play games such as GTA IV.

here is my bios setting:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Setting : 10.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266Mhz
FSB Frequency : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1203Mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A: Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B: Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information : 5-5-5-18-3-42-6-3
2nd Information : All Auto
3rd Information : All Auto
DRAM Static Read Control : Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level : 05
Pull-In of CHA PH1 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 : Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 : Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.26875
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.41
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.24
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Grnfinger

12-09-2008, 10:03 AM

Zucker2k

12-09-2008, 10:03 AM

I'm sharing my results with the F2-7200CL4PI-B. I made a separate thread just to see if there are any other sticks with > or similar results; no biters yet :)

Thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=210381

Not bad at all imo; and once again, I need modest volts for the NB with 8GBs and FSB of 471. :shrug: Quad 32m prime stable. The very low timings are what blows me away though. I was thinking this would translate into higher max frequency on CL5, but I was wrong. This seems more a product of the Ics themselves. It's close to perfect for me, but I'm still tweaking cpu volts, as well as pushing for 475fsb 1:1. Enjoy! :up:

Rampage Formula x48, bios 0308
Q9550, C1 @ 8.5x471fsb
4x2GB G.Skill PC2-7200 CL4 @ 942mhz, 1:1, PL7 with the following settings:

Primary: 4-4-3-9-1-40-4-2

Secondary: 7-2-4-4-6-4-6

Tertiary: 11-4-1-4-4

Volts are in the screenies....

Windows Server 2008 x64 (Everyday OS)

My 24/7... not fully tweaked yet.
http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/4a9b270053d617efcba3b4aa681f5c7c.jpg

Same...
http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/6e15aa17ab6a4c9e6fc917e4346b758f.jpg

475fsb
http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/b7e998d7ac1ede68ae28c9ed86a706b1.jpg

500FSB CL5 with the quad is easy, but only possible at PL9; though all pull-in phases on CHA can be enabled. Does that make it a PL8.5? :) Don't ask me.