The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[awhir]

so guys anyone have timmings for pc6400 D9 chips ?

[billdavis]

what is the current best cpu temp monitor for the qx9650??

[jimmyz]

what is the current best cpu temp monitor for the qx9650??

from the pics you posted earlier in the other thread , your speedfan is reading the cpu temp correctly it is calling it temp 1 though. mine does the same. ...unless you have some other component that is -49c.

[billdavis]

from the pics you posted earlier in the other thread , your speedfan is reading the cpu temp correctly it is calling it temp 1 though. mine does the same. ...unless you have some other component that is -49c.

yeah but i want to make sure all cores are even

and what is a working vista 64 gfx overclocking tool

thanks

[eSp!s0]

12h OCCT 450x8:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/non-se36ghz1200ram121vs.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=non-se36ghz1200ram121vs.png)

BIOS 903
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting : Auto
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 5
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 15
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Enabled
-Boost Level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.34200 1.320VCPU-z (Bios could be +/- 0.005, don`t know excatly)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto 1,65V Bios
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25 1.26V Everest
DRAM Voltage : 2.16 2.19-2.21V Everest
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20 1.22V Everest
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050 1.06V Everest
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[GFORCE100]

12h OCCT 450x8:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/non-se36ghz1200ram121vs.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=non-se36ghz1200ram121vs.png)

BIOS 903
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting : Auto
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 5
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 15
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Enabled
-Boost Level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.34200 1.320VCPU-z (Bios could be +/- 0.005, don`t know excatly)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto 1,65V Bios
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25 1.26V Everest
DRAM Voltage : 2.16 2.19-2.21V Everest
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20 1.22V Everest
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050 1.06V Everest
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

What's your Everest memory read/write/copy performance with the above settings?

[eSp!s0]

If this settings are stable, I will go on testing with DRAM Static Read Control: enabled, but any changes in TransactionBooster causes system to become unstable/instable?

http://www.abload.de/thumb/non-se36ghz1200ram122cr.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=non-se36ghz1200ram122cr.png)

[CERO]

Oke I am for now done for cpu testing on day 2. Achieved 3.825Ghz[ 425x9] @ 1.376vcore. I got 2 pairs of ram to test now along with the cpu. I might could have lowered the FSBv [1.44v actual] and maybe the NBv[ 1.50v actual], Can I lower these? for 425x9?. I know My Ballistix could run 5-5-4-9 1167mhz @ 2.05v @ p5k deluxe. I want to use strap 400/(333 if possible) 1033mhz Any1 might guide helping to setup the settings for ram?

This was My settings for testing the cpu:

Bios 0802
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 850 ( cpu test) now want to choose 1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual: Disabled
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Ai Clock Twister : auto
Transaction Booster : disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.40000
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.90
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : enabled
CPU GTL Reference : x63
North Bridge GTL Reference : x67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2 REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Oke This is the hardest part of testing. I know from the P5K deluxe, Enabling Dram static read control would give better performance ( according everest) then Transaction booster. I have no clue what I should choose from those 2. And AI clock twister does it effect any thing?

[Jodiuh]

What's your question? it looks like Vista automatically installed its drivers for you. right?
It installed a new device. I went from LPC to the PCI - ISA.

[KALISPIMENTA]

I got my q6600 to 3.5 with the crazy option in the bios.Now, how can i see all my bios option so i can tweak them manually? Some bios when set to auto show the current value but not this one.Any solutions?

[Croak in BC]

what is the current best cpu temp monitor for the qx9650??

I'm real fond of Everest Ultimate 2.40. Matches Coretemps readings exactly, works fine in Vista x64, outputs to a nice sidebar, and best of all, has a completely customizible LCD output that works great with a G15 keyboard's display, which lets me keep an eye on things when I'm actually using the PC to play games.

It also has a decent set of benchmarking and informational tools. The latest beta version supports ATI 38xx cards as well.

It's not free though, but it's well worth the $30 IMHO.

http://novuscom.net/~john.capozzi/everestultimate.jpg

[Grnfinger]

12h OCCT 450x8:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/non-se36ghz1200ram121vs.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=non-se36ghz1200ram121vs.png)

BIOS 903
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting : Auto
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 5
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 15
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Enabled
-Boost Level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.34200 1.320VCPU-z (Bios could be +/- 0.005, don`t know excatly)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto 1,65V Bios
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25 1.26V Everest
DRAM Voltage : 2.16 2.19-2.21V Everest
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20 1.22V Everest
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050 1.06V Everest
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Only ran a quick 4 hour test but your settings are rock solid with ram 1200 and clock twister set to strong.
I have a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty VID of 1.325 so my volts are a tad high, but other than that is a great setup.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/test2.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/1199BEST.png

[CERO]

Oke I now this probleme has been adressed above curten volts prime wont use 99% of the cpu, but f.e. like 80% , this is mostly above 1.50v from what I have seen, However I got the bad luck that as soon I put any voltage above 1.4000, @ bios, so 1.40625 or higher Prime wont load 99% @ taskmanager, how come even at this low volts...... I just wanted to rest my cpu for Q6600 untill I stumped into this....

[eSp!s0]

Only ran a quick 4 hour test but your settings are rock solid with ram 1200 and clock twister set to strong.
I have a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty VID of 1.325 so my volts are a tad high, but other than that is a great setup.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/test2.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/1199BEST.png

Nice one! :)
I don`t have that luck, but I will try out moderate someday. Have to test out this settings with slider to "cpu" and "ram" a few hours first.

[GFORCE100]

If this settings are stable, I will go on testing with DRAM Static Read Control: enabled, but any changes in TransactionBooster causes system to become unstable/instable?

http://www.abload.de/thumb/non-se36ghz1200ram122cr.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=non-se36ghz1200ram122cr.png)

That's because for transcation booster you need to increase the NB voltage.

It will work with your RAM at 1199 in the BIOS at 8x450 and with memory at 1133 at 9x425. I use the latter setting with it enabled = 0.

[The Terminal]

Hey.. how to fix waterblock Apogge GT over Maximus Formula... both type of mounting are imposible :s because waterblock touch with heatpipes. :s

Please i need help :s

The Apogge GT does fit the Maximus non SE board. :yepp: Im using one, although it sure is a snug fit!

[BNDMOD]

The Apogge GT does fit the Maximus non SE board. :yepp: Im using one, although it sure is a snug fit!no way :s mine don't fit :s please... mine waterblock touch with heatpipe greay :s

[Zucker2k]

Oke I am for now done for cpu testing on day 2. Achieved 3.825Ghz[ 425x9] @ 1.376vcore. I got 2 pairs of ram to test now along with the cpu. I might could have lowered the FSBv [1.44v actual] and maybe the NBv[ 1.50v actual], Can I lower these? for 425x9?. I know My Ballistix could run 5-5-4-9 1167mhz @ 2.05v @ p5k deluxe. I want to use strap 400/(333 if possible) 1033mhz Any1 might guide helping to setup the settings for ram?

We're running the same settings for 24/7, and this is what has worked for me with my D9s (Team Xtreem PC2 6400 @ 2.24v, you may need less if your ram is rated higher)

4-4-4-10-2-25-3-3-7-3-5-4-6-4-6 (I'm on the 333 strap). I received some PMs about my timings, hope this helps. If you guys are interested, I will post my new bios settings, as I see many folks are pushing a lot of voltages where it isn't even necessary.

[Zucker2k]

no way :s mine don't fit :s please... mine waterblock touch with heatpipe greay :s

I'm using an Apogee GT too. Just turn it 90 degrees, like in the picture.

[CERO]

I got a very Frustrating problem, is regardless FSB I put, as soon I put in BIOS any value higher then 1.4000v Prime95 under Small FFts wont run 99%, but 87% and the rest goes to system. Could be the BIOS or I got a Dudd board :(?, I am on 0802. If I run Blend however it will 99%of the cpu usage assigned to Prime.....:shrug:

[Zucker2k]

I got a very Frustrating problem, is regardless FSB I put, as soon I put in BIOS any value higher then 1.4000v Prime95 under Small FFts wont run 99%, but 87% and the rest goes to system. Could be the BIOS or I got a Dudd board :(?, I am on 0802. If I run Blend however it will 99%of the cpu usage assigned to Prime.....:shrug:

This is an on-going issue in the main thread; some have suggested it is a P95 bug.

[KALISPIMENTA]

I got my q6600 to 3.5 with the crazy option in the bios.Now, how can i see all my bios option so i can tweak them manually? Some bios when set to auto show the current value but not this one.Any solutions?
ANYONE?

[BNDMOD]

I don't know why mine don't fit :s if i try to put waterblock like picture of "THE TERMINAL", waterblock touch with heatsink of heatpipe gray part :s where say "ASUS" and if i rotate it 90°C :s touch with heatsink of motfes up socket and heatsink of NB :S

Now i've done the mod, cut a litle of both side and now it fit :d

[jorgito05]

I don't know why mine don't fit :s if i try to put waterblock like picture of "THE TERMINAL", waterblock touch with heatsink of heatpipe gray part :s where say "ASUS" and if i rotate it 90°C :s touch with heatsink of motfes up socket and heatsink of NB :S

Now i've done the mod, cut a litle of both side and now it fit :d

how did you place a link in your signature, I keep trying and the image pops up, I just want a link.

[Croak in BC]

If you guys are interested, I will post my new bios settings, as I see many folks are pushing a lot of voltages where it isn't even necessary.


Please do.

[CERO]

This is an on-going issue in the main thread; some have suggested it is a P95 bug.

I see , do u experience also the same? It is just small FFTs , blend runs fine. CPU loads 100% however it divide a apart of the load to "system". Just cant figure out what this system load is, since I just opened p95 nothing else

[eSp!s0]

12h OCCT 450x8:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/non-se36ghz1200ram121vs.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=non-se36ghz1200ram121vs.png)

BIOS 903
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting : Auto
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 5
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 15
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Enabled
-Boost Level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.34200 1.320VCPU-z (Bios could be +/- 0.005, don`t know excatly)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto 1,65V Bios
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25 1.26V Everest
DRAM Voltage : 2.16 2.19-2.21V Everest
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20 1.22V Everest
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050 1.06V Everest
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

And here with slider at "cpu", 10,5h:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/non-se36ghz1200ram10ks4.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=non-se36ghz1200ram10ks4.png)

[sonofander]

Found my 24/7: 4.1 @ 1.5v (real)
Q6600 L737B
idles around 35-38 and never tops 68c at full load (small ffts)
ran and hour of small ffts now I'm priming away on the blend test... 1 hour in

couldn't be happier :D

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e82/sonofander/41.jpg

[FZ1]

Found my 24/7: 4.1 @ 1.5v (real)
Q6600 L737B
idles around 35-38 and never tops 68c at full load (small ffts)
ran and hour of small ffts now I'm priming away on the blend test... 1 hour in

couldn't be happier :D


Very nice. Congrats on a good chip!

[kup]

I see , do u experience also the same? It is just small FFTs , blend runs fine. CPU loads 100% however it divide a apart of the load to "system". Just cant figure out what this system load is, since I just opened p95 nothing else

The "System" load is the problem! The System resource is hogging the CPU for no reason!

[jorgito05]

I am new at this posting, how do I post my results for example CPUZ, How do I post whats on my screen.

[Shootingblanks]

I am new at this posting, how do I post my results for example CPUZ, How do I post whats on my screen.

easiest way is to hit printscreen key and open up microsoft paint. Then hit control+v and save file as a jpeg. then upload to photobucket. hope this helps.

by the way i also pmed ya.

[eSp!s0]

And here with slider at "cpu", 10,5h:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/non-se36ghz1200ram10ks4.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=non-se36ghz1200ram10ks4.png)


12h OCCT 450x8:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/non-se36ghz1200ram121vs.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=non-se36ghz1200ram121vs.png)

BIOS 903
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting : Auto
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 5
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 15
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Enabled
-Boost Level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.34200 1.320VCPU-z (Bios could be +/- 0.005, don`t know excatly)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto 1,65V Bios
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25 1.26V Everest
DRAM Voltage : 2.16 2.19-2.21V Everest
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20 1.22V Everest
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050 1.06V Everest
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

And 5h with slider to "ram":
http://www.abload.de/thumb/non-se36ghz1200ram5hrzr.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=non-se36ghz1200ram5hrzr.png)

[KALISPIMENTA]

After some headaches

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f222/kalis-pimenta/cpuz.jpg
and
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f222/kalis-pimenta/3825MHZ.jpg

[jorgito05]

Hi Everyone!

Following you will see my results with everything set on auto in the bios.
I would like to bump up the FSB to1600 and my mem to 3-3-3-10. So far I have been to chicken to do so, The CPU cost me 1000.00$, and I am afraid to kill it.

The Kingston specs for my mem are:
KHX6400D2ULK2/2G are 5-5-5-18@1.8v and 3-3-3-10@2.3-2.35v I am afraid because this board tends to overvolt.

Does anyone have any suggestions, I am new at OC.
http://http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj165/jorgito05/Results.jpg (http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj165/jorgito05/Results.jpg)

Thank you in advance

[jorgito05]

I was able to lower my timings without having to up mem voltages.

http://http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj165/jorgito05/2ndResults-1.jpg (http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj165/jorgito05/2ndResults-1.jpg)

Still scared to up my FSB without help from you experts. :confused:

Your advice on bios setings would be heslfull, want to bump up to 1600 FSB.

[sup3rfly]

hi, need some help setting up raid here, i have 2 raptor x hdd, when i set the sata mode as raid then i wont be able to see both drive after i save and exit from the bios, i try to press on Ctrl + I but i dont see the Intel Matrix Storage manager screen as well...is there something that i missed??

[newls1]

After some headaches

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f222/kalis-pimenta/cpuz.jpg
and
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f222/kalis-pimenta/3825MHZ.jpg

Why does it say your NB is an X48?? on a Maximus Formula:confused:

[Grnfinger]

Warboy has the same error on the other thread

[-.-PhanTom-.-]

Ahh figured it out I think... :)

[JoeBar]

Found my 24/7: 4.1 @ 1.5v (real)
Q6600 L737B
idles around 35-38 and never tops 68c at full load (small ffts)
ran and hour of small ffts now I'm priming away on the blend test... 1 hour in

couldn't be happier :D
Very nice oc! :up:

I see you have a low vid quad. I have a L728A with vid 1.2875v and it can't pass 3.72ghz with 1.52v vcore, prime stable. I have a similar loop for cpu cooling.

[Croak in BC]

Don't feel bad, I have a B3 1.3125 VID. :)

[eSp!s0]

That is the best my ram can do with 450x8. 1200mhz 5-5-5-12 SRC enabled, AI light, TB enabled Lvl0. I tried 4-4-4-15 and 5-5-5-10 but it doesn`t boot right.
I tested that settings with Memtest(pic) and came to about 500% coverage without any errors. Does sb. use Memtest, can I trust in or does OCCT "ram" find errors, Memtest doesn`t find? Should I trust Memtest and go on with reducing VCore for this settings, or would you test with OCCT to be sure?
Here is the pic:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/memtest0903450x81200381.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=memtest0903450x81200381.png)http://www.abload.de/thumb/everestcachebench0907q6.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=everestcachebench0907q6.png)

[CERO]

hey espiso:) I would use memtest86+ 1.70 and then either OCCT or Prime blend for 24/7 tests.

[eSp!s0]

Tested with OCCT "ram" over night to be sure and 10,5h without errors :)

http://www.abload.de/thumb/occtram0903450x812006a5.png (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=occtram0903450x812006a5.png)

BIOS 903
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting : Auto
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 5
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 12
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 3
Write Recovery Time : 42
Read to Precharge Time : 6
(missing setting?: 3)

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Enabled
-Boost Level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.34300 | 1.320VCPU-z (Bios could be +/- 0.005, don`t know excatly)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto | 1,65V Bios
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25 | 1.26V Everest
DRAM Voltage : 2.16 | 2.19-2.21V Everest
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20 | 1.22V Everest
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050 | 1.06V Everest
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Any ideas for better subtimings? I have one subtimings that isn`t in this setting-table!?

[tommithy]

Hey folks, new Q6600 and Maximus Formula owner here that could use a little help in overclocking this beast. I'm new to Intel overclocking being an old skool AMD guy so whatever advice you can give will be read, dissected, disseminated and read again ;-)

Ok, on to the good stuff.. Runnin a Q6600 G0. Don't know the L73x codes as I'm here at work but I have that info at home. Maximus Formula 1.03g mb. Ballistix PC8500 ram. Memory is set at DDR2-800 with auto timings of 5 5 5 18 as I was trying to rule out memory as a limiting factor.

I can't seem to go any faster then 3.6 ghz. When I do try to go faster I can boot to windows but OCCT crashes 5 seconds in with a "Code 1" error. Prime crashes immediately as well. Sometimes the crash will cause a reboot, sometimes it will not.


Settings are as follows:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
CAS# Latency : Auto
RAS# to CAS# Delay : Auto
RAS# Precharge : Auto
RAS# ActivateTime : Auto
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.45 Bios 1.43 (Everest)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.6 (dont see this in Everest)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49 Bios 1.5 (Everest)
DRAM Voltage : 2.18 Bios 2.24 (Everest)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4 Bios 1.44 (Everest)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.1 Bios 1.1 (Everest)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5 Bios 1.52 (Everest)

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Enabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Enabled

[FZ1]

That might be about the limit for your cpu.:shrug:

[tommithy]

That might be about the limit for your cpu.:shrug:

That is completely possible however being an Intel overclocking n00b, I'm hoping some of the people here will have some ideas for me to try.

[Grnfinger]

That is completely possible however being an Intel overclocking n00b, I'm hoping some of the people here will have some ideas for me to try.

I need about 1.5 volts to hit 3.8GHz, and about 1.55 for 4.0GHz
Your not overclocking your ram, why so much volts?
I can run my Corsair PC8500 at 2.0volts @1133MHz, this board over volts very badly.

[tommithy]

I need about 1.5 volts to hit 3.8GHz, and about 1.55 for 4.0GHz
Your not overclocking your ram, why so much volts?
I can run my Corsair PC8500 at 2.0volts @1133MHz, this board over volts very badly.

When referring to the cpu volts, are you talking just cpu or cpu + cpu pll? What utility can I use to read the cpu pll as Everest doesn't seem to show it?

I'll try upping the volts to see if I can go any faster.


I was planning on overclocking the ram but haven't gotten that far. As for the volts on it, I was under the assumption that 2.2volts was stock for Ballistix ram. I'll have to check that out as well.


Do all of my other settings look good?

Thanks!

[Scooby]

When using OCCT I notice you can use the slider between CPU and RAM...I can't seem to do that, when I click on it, it just moves the whole thing...also I'm using Everest and when I select it under "Monitoring" it tells me "Shared Memory Disabled!"

Am I doing something wrong here? Thank you for any advise.

[Grnfinger]

When referring to the cpu volts, are you talking just cpu or cpu + cpu pll? What utility can I use to read the cpu pll as Everest doesn't seem to show it?

I'll try upping the volts to see if I can go any faster.


I was planning on overclocking the ram but haven't gotten that far. As for the volts on it, I was under the assumption that 2.2volts was stock for Ballistix ram. I'll have to check that out as well.


Do all of my other settings look good?

Thanks!


I would leave CPU PLL alone if anything its high.
I might have misread your ram volts I thought I saw 2.8 ( yes after looking I was um....wrong) your ram volts are fine
for 3.6GHz or higher I set CPU PLL to AUTO, you can check cpu pll in the bios
Tools>Hardware Monitor scroll down and you'll see it.

[Grnfinger]

When using OCCT I notice you can use the slider between CPU and RAM...I can't seem to do that, when I click on it, it just moves the whole thing...also I'm using Everest and when I select it under "Monitoring" it tells me "Shared Memory Disabled!"

Am I doing something wrong here? Thank you for any advise.

Set OCCT to custom and you can move slider
In everest you need to enabled shared memory
Open preferences on the left at the bottom "external application" check the shared memory box on the right.

[tommithy]

I would leave CPU PLL alone if anything its high.
I might have misread your ram volts I thought I saw 2.8 ( yes after looking I was um....wrong) your ram volts are fine
for 3.6GHz or higher I set CPU PLL to AUTO, you can check cpu pll in the bios
Tools>Hardware Monitor scroll down and you'll see it.

Ok, I'll change the CPU PLL to Auto. I did see that it could be checked in Hardware Monitor, was just curious if it could be checked in Everest. Guess not.

What would be considered too high a voltage for CPU PLL??

[tommithy]

Set OCCT to custom and you can move slider
In everest you need to enabled shared memory
Open preferences on the left at the bottom "external application" check the shared memory box on the right.

Just curious.. How do you get the slider? I have the latest OCCT 1.1.1b but do not see a slider when I select Custom.

[Grnfinger]

you need 1.2.0

[tommithy]

you need 1.2.0

Ahh, thanks.

[TheSysX]

Hi , i've got the Maximus Formula in my rig now , but me got problem ^^ :
I wanted to oc my Q6600 g0 , so tried setups of the forum here , tried my own , but no boot . 267*9 = no go . Tried everything : The voltmod , bios flashing 0907 , dividers on ram , container on it , nothing worked .

What the hell is the problem ? Can somebody help me ? :)

Grtz

[iadstudio]

you need 1.2.0

Where do you get 1.2.0? All I could find was 1.1.1

[altosjalmex]

Hey guys,

I currently have a dilemma with this board: Tight memory timings or high memory frequency. I have a set of 2 GB OCZ Alpha Titanium that
can do 750 MHz at 3-3-3-10 with 2.2 volts or 1080 MHz at 5-5-5-12 with 2.25 volts. What do you guys suggest?

[Zucker2k]

Hey guys,

I currently have a dilemma with this board: Tight memory timings or high memory frequency. I have a set of 2 GB OCZ Alpha Titanium that
can do 750 MHz at 3-3-3-10 with 2.2 volts or 1080 MHz at 5-5-5-12 with 2.25 volts. What do you guys suggest?

Higher frequency is always better on Intel platform.

[ElEctric_EyE]

Hey guys,

I currently have a dilemma with this board: Tight memory timings or high memory frequency. I have a set of 2 GB OCZ Alpha Titanium that
can do 750 MHz at 3-3-3-10 with 2.2 volts or 1080 MHz at 5-5-5-12 with 2.25 volts. What do you guys suggest?

I suggest you use a throughput analyzer and measure the #'s. Ya think 1080MHz MAY be faster than 750MHz? Is this really your question?

[Scooby]

Set OCCT to custom and you can move slider
In everest you need to enabled shared memory
Open preferences on the left at the bottom "external application" check the shared memory box on the right.

Thank you sir, that got it!!!

[btdvox]

Hi guys I am having trouble overclocking my system by one Bit.
I am happy with all my results so far Im running my CPU perfectly at 3.88 with 10 hrs Orthos FFT stable.
Now the problem i have obv is my ram. I have it stable at DDR2-1146 pretty much but my Subtimings are pretty bad- I have it at 5-5-5-15-3-"52"
as you can see the 52 there is what i want to change- the options i get are 20,25,30,35,42- I cant even change it to 42 by upping volts to Vdimm or vNB i cant get it to work with trans boost to auto or disabled and clock twister to light or moderate and even dram static read to disabled- nothing...
I have no ideas what to do other than just leave it alone and roll with it- It kills bandwidth in 3dmark06 and sisosftware- My CPU mark in 3Dmark06 goes down by like 350-400 marks. But in realtime games- I lose only 1.3 FPS per sec in most game- which isnt that much. But Still it would be awesome if i could get it lower and have it stable. Here are my settings!


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 430
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1146
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : A
Write to Read Delay (S) : A
Write to Read Delay (D) : A
Read to Read Delay (S) : A
Read to Read Delay (D) : A
Write to Write Delay (S) : A
Write to Write Delay (D) : A
DRAM Static Read Control: enabled
Ai Clock Twister : strong
Transaction Booster : enabled-0

CPU Voltage : 1.5250 (1.504 effective)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.57 (1.6 effective)
DRAM Voltage : 2.14 (2.27 effective)
FSB Termination Voltage : A
SB Voltage: A
Loadline Calibration : enabled
CPU GTL Reference : A
North Bridge GTL Reference : A
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : A
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : A
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : A
SB 1.5V Voltage : A

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : enablged

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[-.-PhanTom-.-]

you need 1.2.0

I downloaded OCCTPT1.2.0.b07.zip, but still don't get the slider....:confused:

[heanwi]

Is it necessary to remove the Formula SE's waterblock and apply with (f.ex.) AS5? I don't feel too comfortable taking it off, looks a bit tricky. Don't think I'm gonna watercooling it (yet).

[Grnfinger]

I downloaded OCCTPT1.2.0.b07.zip, but still don't get the slider....:confused:

you need 1.2.0.B06

[ReZ_]

Hi guys I am having trouble overclocking my system by one Bit.
I am happy with all my results so far Im running my CPU perfectly at 3.88 with 10 hrs Orthos FFT stable.
Now the problem i have obv is my ram. I have it stable at DDR2-1146 pretty much but my Subtimings are pretty bad- I have it at 5-5-5-15-3-"52"
as you can see the 52 there is what i want to change- the options i get are 20,25,30,35,42- I cant even change it to 42 by upping volts to Vdimm or vNB i cant get it to work with trans boost to auto or disabled and clock twister to light or moderate and even dram static read to disabled- nothing...
I have no ideas what to do other than just leave it alone and roll with it- It kills bandwidth in 3dmark06 and sisosftware- My CPU mark in 3Dmark06 goes down by like 350-400 marks. But in realtime games- I lose only 1.3 FPS per sec in most game- which isnt that much. But Still it would be awesome if i could get it lower and have it stable. Here are my settings!


what RAM are you using?
Run RAM+CACHE bench in everest, post the screenshot here.

[ReZ_]

Is it necessary to remove the Formula SE's waterblock and apply with (f.ex.) AS5? I don't feel too comfortable taking it off, looks a bit tricky. Don't think I'm gonna watercooling it (yet).

leave it. I'm clocking higher and the NB temp is 50c load. cpu temps are alot higher though. :ROTF:

[KALISPIMENTA]

you need 1.2.0.B06
I actually have 1.2.0b07

[tommithy]

Well, I think I'm going to stay at 3.6ghz on this chip. I got it up to 3.75 but didn't feel like pushing more then 1.5 volts through it.

What would be considered the safest max voltage for these chips?

As it stands I'm prime stable with small FFT's. 3.6ghz @ 1.44v.

Next up will be some memory tweaking.

[atomica]

i still have intermittent start up problems.

so far i am using the profile 1 setting for the ram. think this is causing the problem. what is a safe setting and voltage for the ram if i am not going to overclock it, pls?

should i run it at:

4-4-4-12 2t at 2 volts?

thanks in advance.

[Renegade5399]

Ballistix is rated for 2.2v. Half your issue is undervolted RAM. Set yout RAM for 2.15 and this will yield you 2.25v as there is about a .10v overvolt on this board.

[atomica]

thanks. will give it a shot

[CERO]

I cant really understand this board with my Ballistix, They were Rock stable @ my P5K deluxe @ 1167 5-5-4-9 / 1200 5-5-5-12 @ 2.05v with Dram static read control Enabled. Now I cant even get 1133 ( 425x9) with same timings and even tried 5-5-5-15 up to 2.17v........still cant pass OCCT ( havent tried prime blend yet) but according to memtest86+ it was 14 hours stable @ 1133 5-5-4-9 @2.00v with both dram static enabled / transaction booster enabled/ clock twister...... I tried disabled all and put clock twister to light, even transaction relaxed to 1. still wont pass OCCT, even @ 850mhz 5-5-5-15 all disabled..... could it be MY default primary and secondary timings are to tight? They are: primary: 3-42-6-3 second: 8-3-5-4-6-4-6. Tried btw 0802/0903/0907(currently) all same prob

[eSp!s0]

BIOS 903
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting : Auto
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 5
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 12
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 3
Write Recovery Time : 42
Read to Precharge Time : 6
(missing setting?: 3)

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Enabled
-Boost Level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.33100 | 1.312VCPU-z
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto | 1,65V Bios
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25 | 1.26V Everest
DRAM Voltage : 2.16 | 2.19-2.21V Everest
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20 | 1.22V Everest
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050 | 1.06V Everest
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Could lower VCore a bit and tested with prime custom in-place fft 10h without an error.
A few days I tested 1,325V VCore with OCCT "CPU" and had an error next day from OCCT, but a small error-window, like the windows-error-windows, lol. The test itself ran on till I stopped it after 12hours and no stress-test error. But this OCCT-error (sth like wrong address in A777Fccx0, but don`t know excactly), what was that? Is it stable, or not!?

[billdavis]

is anyone having problems with the pci-e land switching from 18x to 8x ??

here is my benching problem http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=171511

[Warboy]

is anyone having problems with the pci-e land switching from 18x to 8x ??

here is my benching problem http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=171511

18x to 8x? there isn't a 18x speed

[Leeghoofd]

he means 16x/8x warboy, I don't think there's another option then PCI-Z speed in the bios I lock mine at 101... not sure if it's related

[S1mon-]

I cant really understand this board with my Ballistix, They were Rock stable @ my P5K deluxe @ 1167 5-5-4-9 / 1200 5-5-5-12 @ 2.05v with Dram static read control Enabled. Now I cant even get 1133 ( 425x9) with same timings and even tried 5-5-5-15 up to 2.17v........still cant pass OCCT ( havent tried prime blend yet) but according to memtest86+ it was 14 hours stable @ 1133 5-5-4-9 @2.00v with both dram static enabled / transaction booster enabled/ clock twister...... I tried disabled all and put clock twister to light, even transaction relaxed to 1. still wont pass OCCT, even @ 850mhz 5-5-5-15 all disabled..... could it be MY default primary and secondary timings are to tight? They are: primary: 3-42-6-3 second: 8-3-5-4-6-4-6. Tried btw 0802/0903/0907(currently) all same prob

I used to have the same thing myself, I tweaked for over a week trying to figure what was going on with my RAM, then I cranked my NB voltage from 1,55V to 1,6V and then no more problem what so ever ;)

[HempHog]

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3074/80295630aj8.th.jpg (http://img295.imageshack.us/my.php?image=80295630aj8.jpg)

I can't get the bios to post past 440, no idea why. This will have to do for now, not too bad. I changed the ram to Patriot Extreme PC2-9600, more tweaking to do.
My cpu is watercooled, I have a 120mm on the ram and 90mm on the NB. Temps dont go above 41 on the nb and 48 on the core's.

[atomica]

Ballistix is rated for 2.2v. Half your issue is undervolted RAM. Set yout RAM for 2.15 and this will yield you 2.25v as there is about a .10v overvolt on this board.

Doesn't seem to work for me. tested 2.10v to 2.20v and I get memtest errors.

Turned off DRAM Static Read Control and disabled Transaction Booster to 0 and no more memtest errors. But once in a while the PC won't boot and will get stuck at det ram stage.

Everthing is at default setting:
4-4-4-12-3-42-6-3
8-3-54-6-4-6

Am starting to get really upset with this board. Sigh.

Should I increase the Northbridge voltage?

[S1mon-]

Should I increase the Northbridge voltage?

Yes :)

[atomica]

Yes :)

May I know what is the default value and what I should bump it up to? Do I follow the same value as yours and set it as 1.6v?

[S1mon-]

May I know what is the default value and what I should bump it up to? Do I follow the same value as yours and set it as 1.6v?

I don't know what kind of FSB u are running at but if you are running 425 fsb+ with high memory clocks, I would suggest to test with 1,55V to 1,6V until you get the stability you are looking for.

Personnally, at 450 fsb, I had to reach 1,6V NB to get my system stable... with 1,55V, I was sometimes getting memory errors even with my sticks at 2,24V and some games would hard-lock for no reasons... with 1,6V NB, I reached 8 hours P95 stable with my memory @ 2,1V :) I haven't tried lower than 2,1V but I will do tomorrow

[atomica]

Thanks for the info. fsb is 400.

The board has just gone wonky on me again. Even though i have gone back to my usual stable setting, it is giving memtest errors. Sigh.

[Leeghoofd]

Atomica it also might be your ram mate that has gone bad, don't always blame the board as many stuff is user related here... Can you verify the ram on another board to see if it works properly there ? and plz post ya settings here...

[newls1]

Thanks for the info. fsb is 400.

The board has just gone wonky on me again. Even though i have gone back to my usual stable setting, it is giving memtest errors. Sigh.

Use NB strap 400. Your DET DRAM getting stuck area will stop. I have the same issue, alond with many others, for some reason NB STRAP 400 seems to be the most stable. TRY IT! We have the same ram, same motherboard, I have been thru all these issues before, very anoying;) . Good board once you figure ouit all this crap.

NB STRAP 400
transaction booster ENABLED
Boost level "0"
DRAM statc read control - DISABLED
Dram Voltage 2.16V

Set those settings, and let me know.

[cadaveca]

same parts here, too, i run 400x9 (2900's, not 38xx's tho)

NB STRAP 333
transaction booster auto
Boost level n/a
DRAM statc read control - ENABLED
Dram Voltage 2.00V

running4 gb of pc6400 tracers @ 960 4-4-4-8.:shrug:

[CERO]

Yep I cant even get even stable with downclocked 850 mhz 5-5-5-15mhz and it corrupted my OS, screen became light blue or pink some times, eventually I cant come into windows..... I am gonna switch to 2x2GB G.Skills, I think this board doesnt like the ballistix..... on the P5K deluxe my ballistix where flying, high speed + low volts required 24.7 stable....

[cadaveca]

i have a theory that older boards without dual-channel DIMM PWM had much higher drive strength to deal with issues reaching high clocks, and teh Maximus, with dual-channel PWM, does not need such high drives for the same speeds.

So, on your P5K, drive was high. This did a bit of damage to your DIMMs, and when plopped into the maximus, with it's lower drive, you DIMMs are unstable, due to the damage suffered from your other board.(similar to BH-5 burn-in, if you've been clocking that long)

If you still have the P5K, try the DIMMS on it again, if you can. I was presented with the same problem when moving from P5K to Maximus; Crucial quickly RMA'ed my sticks. My sticks were still good in P5K, but not Maximus. Second set was fine tho...but the bad set had spent alot of time on P5K and other boards, while the second was only on P5K for about 3 days...

[magica]

Thanks for the info MC2K and Cadaveca

I am currently building a new Maximus Formula with a Q6600 slacr. I am also shooting for 9 x 400 and might just stick with that so thanks to Mc2k for documenting his build. My fans are not here yet for my Gemin2 cooler so I might get her fired up monday or Tuesday. I also have a brand new set of crucial ballsticks the pc8500. I hope Cadavecas story is right for everyone and my memory works. I will be reporting here my findings also.

Good luck to us all :D

[CERO]

np magica thats what this forum is for :up:, well I gave up on the Ballistix and I switched to the 2x2GB G.Skills that are brand new. I thought it was easier to test this board with 2x1GB, but cadaveca theory could be right, the ballistix were used on the Black slots of the P5K Deluxe, the back slots were protentially yield better clocks, and probbly because of the Higher drive strenght. Well when I pop back into my p5K Deluxe, the ram is working without dropping a sweat. So either your theory is right or this board Simply dont play that well with my set of Ballistix. I am now looping memtest86+ with the G.sKills, I am just wondering how much MB I need to use @ prime Blend to stress the 4GB. default is 1750 MB , should I use 3500MB?

[newls1]

np magica thats what this forum is for :up:, well I gave up the Ballistix and I switched the kit 2x2GB G.Skills that were brand new. I thought it was easier to test this board with 2x1GB, but cadaveca theory could be right, the ballistix were used on the Black slots of the P5K Deluxe, the back slots were protentially yield better clocks, and probbly because of the Higher drive strenght. Well when I pop back into my p5K Deluxe, the ram is working without dropping a sweat. So either your theory is right or this board Simply dont play that well with my set of Ballistix. I am now looping memtest86+ with the G.sKills, I am just wondering how much MB I need to use @ prime Blend to stress the 4GB. default is 1750 MB , should I use 3500MB?


When you have a chance, please let us know how that 2x2GB gskill ram clocks on this board. I've been eyeing that ram for a while, but wasnt sure how it OC's.. Thanks

[CERO]

When you have a chance, please let us know how that 2x2GB gskill ram clocks on this board. I've been eyeing that ram for a while, but wasnt sure how it OC's.. Thanks

Sure newls1 ofc, I am now looping memtest86+, and still have to decide if I am gonna install Vista 64 or XP 64, i got both, But I am still not out, how much RAM should I put in use @ Prime Blend, default for 2GB= 1750MB, should I then do Custom then 3500MB? or is that 2 much....since the size is doubled.

@ 425x9, @400 strap, I can use only 850mhz or 1133, I doub that can be runned on this ram with 2.1v... on the other hand if I choose 333strap, and disable transaction booster it is bootable @ 1021mhz, Or I can test first @ 400x9 using the 400 strap for 1066 ( which is a sweet spot) , Or 450x8 fsb then 333strap 1081mhz.

[cadaveca]

just as an example of what the board is capable of with 4GB of ballistix with "low volts":
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=70152&stc=1&d=1199644870

This was done with 2.1v bios(2.183 approx real, read from DIMM slot), giving me slightly over 10k in sandra tests.

So, either you are not giving your chipset enough voltage to hit those clocks, the divider timings are different on this board than P35(which is partially true, but not in such a way that I have found they affect clocks by more than a mhz or 2), or your ram is damaged, MC2K.

Compound that with it still working in the old board, sounds like you got some drive issues, to me. I'd be RMA'ing those sticks, unless you plan of keeping the P5K. Kepp in mind as well that secondary timings from P5K do not translate well over to X38...

[iadstudio]

can you post you bios settings for that? I just got these Crucial sticks and I'm used to OCing Corsair and OCZ which both need lots o' volts to stabalize. I'm especially interested in the RAM related settings on this board.

[ChaosAD]

I also use ballistix 8500.I managed to run them 5-4-4-9 @ 2.0v in everest.But then i got this 47min error in prime95 blend test.Still working on it.
Some of you seem to use the 400 strap.I use the 333.400 just dont work for me.I dont know why but it doesnt even post.Transaction booster doesnt work either.No post for tras booster even at 333 strap.

I dont know if i do something wrong.If anyone has any idea about any of these problems i would be glad to hear :up:

[cadaveca]

Iastudio, here's my settings for that screenshot. Passed Prime95 small FFT and blend 48 hrs, OCCT testing, game testing(basically every title out in last 6 months, except MoHA) Alos of note is that I set SB 1.5v to the same as cpu PLL volt, as in previous boards these voltages were linked, and it did seem to help with long-term stability testing. Also note that this is with an E6600, not a quad, so the chipset load is a bit light.

BIOS 907
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto(Crazy causes some issues on 400 strap with earlier bioses)
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 475
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 115

DRAM Frequency: 1140
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 5
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 15
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 3
Write Recovery Time : 42
Read to Precharge Time : 6
(missing setting?: 3)

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Disabled
-Boost Level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.60v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.70
North Bridge Voltage : 1.65
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.6
South Bridge Voltage : 1.150
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.7v

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[iadstudio]

9x 475? is that right?

Another question, how much did you have to mess with the memory sub timings? Did auto work out for you or was it necissary to hard set all of them.

Thank for posting that. I look forward to OCing these sticks.

[cadaveca]

Nah, 8x multi...I just got up, and am a bit sick, sry.


Auto seems to work fine, but the whoel thing of not knowing if it would change something as I clocked...well...that's not OK by me, so I just set the standard auto timings manually. Then you are not left with a guessing game as to what is causing instability...for me, I've not maxed out my ram yet, I'm FSB limited by the cpus i've got now(2x B3 quad, 2x E6600, 1x G0 Quad). QX9650 is next to go in this board...just gotta fully understand the board before I start with another cpu...and I've had my board since about 3 days after this thread started!

[leoftw]

A bit off topic but what intel qx9xxx is going to be around the 300$ mark ?

[Leeghoofd]

A bit off topic but what intel qx9xxx is going to be around the 300$ mark ?

none qx will be around 300 dollar mark , Q9450 will be, though it's multi is at 8x.
I really think the Q6600 will stay at it's current price level due to the 9 multi just like the E6600...when they released the 1333FSB CPU's. And on the Q6600 3ghz is so easy to do ( mostly on stock voltage ), so you get the speed of a stock QX6850 for free...

[heanwi]

I'm having some problems with overclocking on this board (SE, BIOS 0907)...
I have a Q6600 G0 which I had no problems with getting to 3,8GHz @ 1,48ish volt on Asus P5k Premium. On this board however it wont even boot at that volt (or anything up to 1,5V) . I'm using the Anandtech setup from the first page. Any tips?

[nordien]

@ Heanwi

I had a similar experience. You could try the following settings

vcore 1.4750
CPU PLL 1.70
FSBT 1.51
NB 1.53
SB PLL 1.6
SB 1.10
vdimm 2.28

Im running stable with these settings. The CPU PLL/FSBT does the trick :up:

[heanwi]

Thanks, I'll try it right away! :)

Btw, CPU PLL below 2V is "safe" right?

[CERO]

what Volts are actually needed for 425x9 on a Q6600, with transaction booster enabled and clock twister strong?
NBv:
FSBv:
CPU PLL:
SBv:
CPU/NB GTL:
SB1.5v:

I just need a direction , I think I am holding to much the volts down, comming from a P35 might explain:X

[heanwi]

I think I found whats holding me back... My ram.
I used to (on P5k premium) run (2x1024) 2gb Ocz flexxlc 9200 @ 1200MHz. Now its almost a struggle to boot at 1000MHz with 4gb (4x1024). Any ideas? :S

[Scooby]

Okay guys this is how far I’ve gotten so far and I’m very happy with it for now, OCCT and Prime stable I just need to know if you thing I can improve on, on any of the setting. I have been using AMD setup for a long time so I'm still a noob with Intel so any suggestion you can offer would be appriciated big time.

BIOS 0907
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: AUTO
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency: 475
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency DDR2: AUTO
DRAM Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge: 5
RAS# ActivateTime: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay: AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D): AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S): AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D): AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S): AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D): AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister: AUTO
Transaction Booster: AUTO
Boost Level: 0

CPU Voltage: 1.45v bios
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56v
North Bridge Voltage: 1.35v
DRAM Voltage: 2.14v
FSB Termination Voltage: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: 1.05v
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference: AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference: AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage: DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage: DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage: DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage: AUTO

NB LED Selection: NB Volt
SB LED Selection: SB Volt
CPU LED Selection: CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED: ENABLED

CPU Spread Spectrum: DISABLED
PCIE Spread Spectrum: DISABLED

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/djs61/NEW%20RIG%20PICS/GPU-Z1.jpg


SPECS:
MB: ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA V1.03
CPU: INTEL C2D E6850 G0
RAM: Corsair XMS2 DOMINATOR 8500C5D 4x1GB
GPU: ATI Radeon X2900XT 1GB
HD-1: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB
HD-2: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3300622AS 300GB
HD-3: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3750640AS 750GB
DVD: PLEXTOR PX-716AL Dual Layer
SOUND CARD: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic
PSU: PC Power and Cooling ULTRA-QUIET, SILENCER 750
CASE: SilverStone Black Temjin SST-TJ03 Aluminum Case
FAN CONTROL: Sunbeam 4 Channel Rheobus
COOLING: Watercooled CPU and GPU, Active Aircooling NB and SB

Thanks:up:

[adrenaline7879]

This post will pop my cherry. I have been reading the forums for a few months now. Recently purchased a Maxmus Formula which was told it was the SE but was not when I got it. I can not decided to either send it back and get a different MB or keep it. Specs Below:

Black TT Armor+ (I love it)
Intel Q6600 G0
TR Ultra-120 Extreme (lapped)
2gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer 8500
MSI 8800GTS (G92) 512 OC740
2X 74gb Raptor
1tb Seagate 7200.11
Corsair HX620
24" Dell 2407WFP (A04)

I posted here to get help from you Formula SE guys.

[CERO]

Does increasing PCI-E , yields a better overall overclock? Or it just give u abit of a boost to your GFX speeds.

[Renegade5399]

Anything much past 115 and your RAID will go nuts and not boot. I run mine at 110 and there was MAYBE a 300 point difference in my 3dm06 scores.

[tommithy]

This post will pop my cherry. I have been reading the forums for a few months now. Recently purchased a Maxmus Formula which was told it was the SE but was not when I got it. I can not decided to either send it back and get a different MB or keep it. Specs Below:

Black TT Armor+ (I love it)
Intel Q6600 G0
TR Ultra-120 Extreme (lapped)
2gb Crucial Ballistix Tracer 8500
MSI 8800GTS (G92) 512 OC740
2X 74gb Raptor
1tb Seagate 7200.11
Corsair HX620
24" Dell 2407WFP (A04)

I posted here to get help from you Formula SE guys.


The only difference between the SE and non SE is the heatsink on the NB.

The SE has a fusion water block and the non SE doesn't.

[adrenaline7879]

So you are saying there is no difference on how the board overclocks when not using water. If that is right then I will keep the board and have some fun with it. Ty for the help.

[tommithy]

So you are saying there is no difference on how the board overclocks when not using water. If that is right then I will keep the board and have some fun with it. Ty for the help.

The boards are identical except for the NB cooling.

I have a 120mm fan pointed at my non-SE NB to keep it cool.

[CERO]

Oke here I go again. I tried OCCT version: OCCTPT1.2.0.b06, and I was wondering If u do Custom test. And u are able to move the Slider, so I did it, to Very large Data 1024MB , so RAM test, however I noticed OCCT bar shows the CPU is only 75% load here, but If I look @ the Taskmananger , I see OCCT.exe 99% @ cpu use.

I hope this is not the prob I had with P95 with only multiplier 9x when I pass 1.4000vcore @ bios, prime.exe wont load 99% @ taskmanager, but this time it is the reversed result LOL, taskmanager shows 99% but OCCT shows during RAM test 75% on the bar oO.

[kup]

New OCCT beta out, b07.

[CERO]

Oke this is only with the b06, with the non beta It will goes up to 99,81% or so, but with b06 here, it will start @ 146% or sumtin then it dropping to +/- 75%

Is the orignal 1.1.1.b good enough? Or this this version buggy? or shall I use b07

[iadstudio]

New OCCT beta out, b07.

Does this one have the slider as well? Can anyone confirm? I used it on another board and the slider was not present. Not sure if it was a bad install or what.

[Grnfinger]

@ Heanwi

I had a similar experience. You could try the following settings

vcore 1.4750
CPU PLL 1.70
FSBT 1.51
NB 1.53
SB PLL 1.6
SB 1.10
vdimm 2.28

Im running stable with these settings. The CPU PLL/FSBT does the trick :up:

I would be very carefull with your CPU PLL @ 1.70

[kup]

Does this one have the slider as well? Can anyone confirm? I used it on another board and the slider was not present. Not sure if it was a bad install or what.

No slider, just a drop down box to pick from CPU, MIX and RAM.

[masterkaj]

I have a question, with my q6600 why is it that with my fsbterm volt at 1.3 i can pass prime/occt longer than with a 1.4-1.5fsb term volt. I thought the higher to fsb volt the more headroom for FSB speed. In fact, anandtech's little review recommends 1.54fsbv and 1.61nbv.. when I set it around there I fail tests almost instantly. My temps are under 47C for NB and my cpu temps load around 56C.

450x7 with PC8500 5-5-5-12 t2 (Stap 400, ddr-1199), 4x1GB 2.28v(2.32real, spec'd for 2.25-2.35)
CPUv- 1.375v
CPU PLL- Auto
NB-1.55v
FSB termv-1.3v-1.5v
SB-1.05v

I have been trying for a week to find a stable setting, it seems pretty stable so far for general use and gaming, but I want to be able to pass 8 hour prime blend/smallfft, memtest, OCCT with no errors. Main question is what setting is needing a change and what exactly does fsb term voltage do and what should I set it at. Any other voltages look off? I have basically tried everything so far.

[Zucker2k]

what Volts are actually needed for 425x9 on a Q6600, with transaction booster enabled and clock twister strong?
NBv:
FSBv:
CPU PLL:
SBv:
CPU/NB GTL:
SB1.5v:


I just need a direction , I think I am holding to much the volts down, comming from a P35 might explain:X


My 24/7 (p95 stable) at 9x425


NBv: 1.53
FSBv: 1.40 (it works fine at 1.3v too, don't ask me why).
CPU PLL: 1.50
SBv: 1.100
CPU/NB GTL: Auto/Auto
SB1.5v: Auto

PS: I'm on the 333 strap using the 5/6 divider. Hope this helps.

PPS: I'm running a 4-disc raid0 setup so that might explain why I need 1.100v for SB.

PPPS: I'm running a 2x1GB memory configuration.

[youraa]

Hi :)
I'm new here so hi to everyone :)))
After messing around with my new rig for a bit I managed to figure out occt stable bios settings:

Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [8]
FSB Frequency [450]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [400MHz]
PCIE Frequency [110]
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [DDR2-1199MHZ]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time [18]
RAS# To Ras# Delay [Auto]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [Auto]
Write Recovery Time [Auto]
Read To Precharge Time [Auto]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(D) [Auto]
Read To Read Delay(S) [Auto]
Read To Read Delay(D) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(D) [Auto]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Strong]
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage [1.50v]
CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]
North Bridge Voltage [1.61v]
DRAM Voltage [2.30v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.54v]
South Bridge Voltage [Auto]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage [1.5v]

1. The only thing that worries me is the NB temp, in bios it shows 61-63C with [1.61v] setting, isn't that a bit too high, my room temperature is around 21C, but it's winter now and in the summer it gets really hot and the temps may go drastically up. The problem is whenever I try to lower the voltage on the NB I cannot boot, 1.61v it's the lowest setting. Any ideas hot to change my settings to lower up the NB temp?

2. Ok and here's the tricky one :) I tried installing all versions of Pc probe, it installed with no problems but each time I try to run the application I get a blue screen and sys reboots??@#@@!! WHY?
Same thing happens with AI tweaker(I don't really use it cause I change the settings in BIOS)
Maybe there is a different application showing NB and SB temps? Or how to make the Pc probe work

I'm running Windows XP Pro polish version SP2c

thx for your help :)

[CERO]

My 24/7 (p95 stable) at 9x425


NBv: 1.53
FSBv: 1.40 (it works fine at 1.3v too, don't ask me why).
CPU PLL: 1.50
SBv: 1.100
CPU/NB GTL: Auto/Auto
SB1.5v: Auto

PS: I'm on the 333 strap using the 5/6 divider. Hope this helps.

PPS: I'm running a 4-disc raid0 setup so that might explain why I need 1.100v for SB.

PPPS: I'm running a 2x1GB memory configuration.

Thnx zucker for sharing, I found my OC prob already man, I was like wtf, I cant get my sticks stable while with my P5K deluxe even with much higher speed with very low volts, but it was my CPU..... I did 8x425 instead and ques what I could do now 2.00v...... before it failed even 2.20v , odd thing is I did first test the CPU, with prime95 small FFTS 12 hours stable @ 1.400vcore bios set. However I need more vcore to pass OCCT it seems:X

[zsero]

Is it normal that I loose 2 cores when PLL is under 1.6 (1.712 actual)?
Now I'm running at 9x400 at 1.384V (CPUZ), using Thermalright - 66Celsius@Prime Small-FFT.

My NB voltage is 1.49 (1.520 actual), and it gives me 58 Celsius temps. Is that normal?

[CERO]

Yes I heared this is the cause of to high PLL, and eventually it can kill your chip, I would lower them asap!

[zsero]

It appears when the PLL is to LOW. I need to set it higher to have 4 cores.

[youraa]

The boards are identical except for the NB cooling.

I have a 120mm fan pointed at my non-SE NB to keep it cool.


did you mount it somehow to the heat sink?

[masterkaj]

Any ideas of what to change next? CPUpll? Can't seem to get past the 2 hour mark on the blend test. Then another core failed at 10 hours. Think it is undervoltage issue or a heat issue? From my experience most undervoltage causes BSOD and restart. Also, it always seems to fail at the end of the tests (IE end of TEST9 to the next test 1).

CPUv-1.375v (1.352v cpuz) (never above 56C)
CPUpll-Auto
NB-1.59v(never above 48C)
FSBtv-1.3v
SB-1.05v
ddr-2.28v

[ChaosMinionX]

Set CPU PLL to 1.5v (should be 1.6v+/- real voltage) and see how it does.... also bring your NB voltage to 1.53/1.55v..... crank down your ram voltage, thats running 2.28v in BIOS (in reality its 2.38v+/- maximus overvolts DRAM) I personally use 2.12v for DRAM....

Also set CPU GTL - .63x and NB GTL - .67x and see how it does.

EDIT: What RAM timings and speeds are you trying to get, and what sticks are you using? I can better help you from there.

[masterkaj]

Ram is the Micron D9, Muskin 4x1GB PC8500 (2.2-2.35v). I set at 2.28 because on my board it is 2.32v (everest) and it seems to be more stable than if I set it lower. However that stability might just be because of other settings. I have it set on 400strap, 450fsb, ddr2-1199. Timings are now set to 5-5-5-12 t2 (subtimings auto), I used to have the anandtech subtimings exactly entered in, but this seems to have more stability.

I already had the x63 and x67 set manually. However, I manually set my PLL to 1.58 in bios and running OCCT set to RAM. Just got back from class and it is still running (2.5hours). What test would be more of an indicator for stability? OCCT-set to ram or Prime 95 Blend? You think I should lower the PLL to 1.5 and see how it does?

Also the pattern I have seen so far, in terms of failure in p95, is that it never fails on the lower fft packets but fails on fft 640k, 768k, 1024k; higher numbers like this.

[Warboy]

3.83Ghz Stable with 4GB (1GBx4) of RAM



Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.0
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1033
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.500v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.65v
DRAM Voltage : 2.18v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.6v

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.0
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
http://valid.x86-secret.com/ccpuz.php?id=294488

CPU-Z Valid (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=294488)

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c398/Warboy/2008-01-08-16h14-BIG-Chipset.png

[iTravis]

I'm at 3.0 stable and thinking to move up to 3.2 b4 hitting 3.4 and 3.6Ghz. You guys have any guide for 3.2Ghz stable with 4x1GB RAM? I really appreciate it.
P/S: I'm still using 0602 and it appears to be stable for me, should I upgrade to 0907?

[avrionis]

I have a Problem seeing temps using Everest Ultimate. Everest only see's the the W83791 sensor chip. Any reason why it is having a problem. Speedfan see's all sensor chips and see's all temps. But once in a while it gets screwed up and see's only 1 sensor chip. Is it possible I do not have the rght drivers or is it Vista Ultimate the problem???

Using probe see's the temps but it also gets screwed up once in a while!:)

PS It is not only the temps from the other chips it does not see, it does not see the voltages/fans/etc.


******Found out why! I was using an older version of everest.. The 4.20 version does the trick!

[tommithy]

did you mount it somehow to the heat sink?

It's in the side window of my case.

[avrionis]

Once in while, the indications just get removed. This happens in speedfan, everest, probe, etc..

Does anyone have this problem?

Do i have to update the drivers for the mobo for these sensor chips?

[zsero]

I am using the air cooled version, and for stable system I really have to set NB to 1.55V. That means 58 Celsius for NB!!! Do you think is that safe? Is it some kind of s**ty thermal compound from factory, or its just the case of X38?

[crazeconnolly]

Hi all.

What kind of overclock should i expect to achieve with my system. Stated in my signiture. I am running at 3ghz stock volts at the moment and my temps are 25 idle and 41 on full load. I would like to get a better oc but not too sure what my cooling can handle.

c.

[iadstudio]

I have a question about the Overheat protection on this board.

Once I updated to 0907 there is no longer an option for the CPU overheat protection in the BIOS under hardware monitoring. Now it just says "COP EX" in black and the overheat protection for the chipsets. Is there soemthing else in the bios that needs to be set to enable cpu overheat protection? or am i loosing my mind? This used to be an option, right?

[youraa]

I am using the air cooled version, and for stable system I really have to set NB to 1.55V. That means 58 Celsius for NB!!! Do you think is that safe? Is it some kind of s**ty thermal compound from factory, or its just the case of X38?

I'm 1.61v on NB with 61-63C :) and yeah it gets hot :)

quote: "IMO that is a high temp on the NB, but I don't think that it's going to cause any damage. As long as you're stable, it's all good man
CHeck out the data sheet on the X38:
Link (http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/x38/documentation.htm)
All of the info you need is in the document entitled Thermal and Mechanical Design Guidelines.....the Tc Max for the X38 is 92C, and you will experience instability with OCing well before this temp I would think....."

[atomica]

Sorry, been offline a lot to test the board and I can only conclude it is really wonky.

The only way I can get it stable is by resetting to the default setting and then by choosing SuperMem Profile (Profile 1). This sets the Crucial Ballistix Tracer 8500 timings to 4-4-4-12 @ 2.2v (Everest reads 1.97v) and everything else is mostly auto.

If I should tweak any settings, it becomes unstable and will fail MemTest+ 1.7. The reason I started tweaking is because while the system is stable it will once in a while fail to boot and get stuck at "det ram."

But after tweaking the system will become unstable and even reverting it back to the setting above will not make it work again. The only way I can get it working is to repeat the process above -- resetting to default and picking SuperMem.

I am really confused. All help is appreciated. Thanks.

PS: I have tested the ram on a different machine and it is working perfectly.

[atomica]

I repeated the test a few times again.

Everything stable when i choose SuperMem but the minute I switch to Manual (I have to cause if not I won't be able to set DRAM voltage) and set the DRAM voltage to 2.1 (the board will over volt to 2.2) it fails the MemTest+ 1.7.

The test it will fail on is Test 6.

[masterkaj]

If I now pass the OCCT "RAM" Test for 4.5 hours but fail the "Mixed" test in exactly 2 hours, what setting should I change? I mean my when I tested small fft packets in p95 it was stable (8 hours), so I have my CPU and RAM stablized. Maybe the fsbtv too low? I remember setting it higher started causing me problems.

Q6600 (450x7)
4x1GB Muskin PC8500 (DDR2-1199, 5-5-5-12)
400strap

CPUv-1.375v(bios) 1.352(everest) (57C Load)
CPUPLL-1.58v(bios) 1.66(hardware monitor) (This too high? It seems to have allowed me to pass the ram test/p95 blend test for 4+hours now)
NB-1.59(bios) 1.58v(everest) (47C Load)
FSBtv-1.3v(bios) 1.31v(everest) <<<< Bump up maybe?
SBv- 1.05(bios) 1.06v(everest)
DDR2v-2.28(bios) 2.32v(everest) (Warrantied up to 2.35v)

Any ideas?

[kup]

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Rampage_Formula

Asus Rampage bios, who thinks it'd flash to the Maximus, seeing as aside from a different binned North Bridge, it's the same board? Same PCB, same everything?

[Warboy]

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Rampage_Formula

Asus Rampage bios, who thinks it'd flash to the Maximus, seeing as aside from a different binned North Bridge, it's the same board? Same PCB, same everything?

I was wondering the same.

Also Kup, Can you add my Overclock to the Main Post?

[JoeBar]

As for the CPU PLL discussion. In my case my cpu needs a high PLL to be stable.

I'm running 465 x 8 with 1.52v vcore (lousy G0) . However it needs a quite high PLL 1.66v set in bios, about 1.78v actual. Anything lower and P95 fails withing 10'.

At least the Anandtch's claim that over "1.67v PLL doesn't gains anything" is bs, in my case. :p:

[kup]

I was wondering the same.

Also Kup, Can you add my Overclock to the Main Post?

Link me to the settings list and I'll add it.

The Rampage bios is newer than the latest Maximus bios. The Rampage was end of December, the Maximus was mid December. I'm very curious about this, in theory, if Asus do it right, it should pick up after the 0907 Maximus bios for fixes and performance etc...

[kup]

If someone can show me how to get around the flash protection between models I'll flash it now just to see...

[iTravis]

I'm @ 3.2Ghz prime stable overnight (>10 hours) and I'm gonna move up to 3.4Ghz 2nite. I notice my CPU temp at full load is 74, is that too high at 3.2?
Also CoreTemp gives me 83 for all 4 cores while Speedfan gives me about 63-65 both at full load. Which one appears to be more reliable? Any versions that give me the accurate temp?

[Warboy]

Link me to the settings list and I'll add it.

The Rampage bios is newer than the latest Maximus bios. The Rampage was end of December, the Maximus was mid December. I'm very curious about this, in theory, if Asus do it right, it should pick up after the 0907 Maximus bios for fixes and performance etc...


If someone can show me how to get around the flash protection between models I'll flash it now just to see...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2685245&postcount=634


Linked

Also In theory, ASUS Update might bypass these. But May Corrupt the bios and/or your windows.

I don't know a easy way to bypass the model checks.

But I did notice yesterday when i was playing with my P5K Deluxe with the newest bios, IT HAD ALL THE SAME FEATURES AS THE MAXIMUS. Just less voltage settings. I was really upset.

[ReZ_]

I'm @ 3.2Ghz prime stable overnight (>10 hours) and I'm gonna move up to 3.4Ghz 2nite. I notice my CPU temp at full load is 74, is that too high at 3.2?
Also CoreTemp gives me 83 for all 4 cores while Speedfan gives me about 63-65 both at full load. Which one appears to be more reliable? Any versions that give me the accurate temp?

I would stop right there and reevaluate :D

What multiplier are you using?? I'm getting 65c load on a 3.6ghz setting (9x400)

Are you on air?

83c is too hot for normal everyday use, in my opinion.

[iTravis]

I would stop right there and reevaluate :D

What multiplier are you using?? I'm getting 65c load on a 3.6ghz setting (9x400)

Are you on air?

83c is too hot for normal everyday use, in my opinion.

I'm using 8x400 and yeh, I'm on air cooling. My concern is whether CoreTemp or SpeedFan give me accurate temps so I can decide to move on from there. Btw, you get 65 load for all 4 cores at full load? That's impressive, maybe cuz you have WC. :clap:

[avrionis]

Does anyone know iof the bios setting for ACPI 2.0 should be enabled or disabled?

[Creek Tha Gray]

anyone getting a quad to 4.0 on this mobo
im at 3.9 stable with 1.55volts and a load temp below -22c and lower. :)

[Scooby]

Hey guys, I got a question...

What is the differents if your getting 3.6Ghz using 8x450FSB or 9x400FSB?

Any advantages of having a higher FSB or multipler?

I have see a lot of guys using either setup, or is it just personal preferance?

[youraa]

I'm 1.61v on NB with 61-63C :) and yeah it gets hot :)

quote: "IMO that is a high temp on the NB, but I don't think that it's going to cause any damage. As long as you're stable, it's all good man
CHeck out the data sheet on the X38:
Link (http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/x38/documentation.htm)
All of the info you need is in the document entitled Thermal and Mechanical Design Guidelines.....the Tc Max for the X38 is 92C, and you will experience instability with OCing well before this temp I would think....."

I installed an Antec Spot fan in my case. It is blowing directly on the NB heatsink and the temeperatures dropped by 10C :)))now I have 42-44C SB 47-51C NB :)))))) will try to go higher on the NB Voltage to reach 4.0GHz (which is most propably hopeless on my VID :)) but will give it a go :)

[youraa]

Hey guys, I got a question...

What is the differents if your getting 3.6Ghz using 8x450FSB or 9x400FSB?

Any advantages of having a higher FSB or multipler?

I have see a lot of guys using either setup, or is it just personal preferance?

Higher fsb is better :) do some benchmarks, you'll see I had quite a diference

[youraa]

I'm using 8x400 and yeh, I'm on air cooling. My concern is whether CoreTemp or SpeedFan give me accurate temps so I can decide to move on from there. Btw, you get 65 load for all 4 cores at full load? That's impressive, maybe cuz you have WC. :clap:

I have 55-57C on full load 450x8 3600 on air :)

[iTravis]

I have 55-57C on full load 450x8 3600 on air :)

How the hell could you do that? :eek: I might have to download the latest version of CoreTemp and see.

[youraa]

How the hell could you do that? :eek: I might have to download the latest version of CoreTemp and see.

pictures of my rig above, my room temp around 20-21

[Grnfinger]

I have 55-57C on full load 450x8 3600 on air :)

Either your rig sounds like a wind tunnel or your temps are not displayed correctly.
At 1.50v I highly doubt your load temps are 55c

[youraa]

Either your rig sounds like a wind tunnel or your temps are not displayed correctly.
At 1.50v I highly doubt your load temps are 55c

Well when I'm doing stress test I have th vents set for medium or high and it's a bit loud then (I have a good airflow in the case), but usually I have them set to minimum for gaming and normal usage and it's quiet, i also wrote the range
55-57C, when I get home I wil do some screenshots of the temps, note that the room temp is low, maybe sometimes it's 19C cause I have the window open :)) bad habbit of smoking :) i use latest coretemp. I use Zalman ZM-STG1 paste.

[Grnfinger]

Thats not bad then for Air, hell its pretty darn good.

[eSp!s0]

It`s amazing.
I have Temps about 54-56&#176;(load) with 450x8=3,6 @1,312V, nearly the same and I only have dualcore cpu and that low Vcore.
And I have a(n?) good airflow in my system with my 8x120mm and not a bad cpu cooler.

[youraa]

It`s amazing.
I have Temps about 54-56&#176;(load) with 450x8=3,6 @1,312V, nearly the same and I only have dualcore cpu and that low Vcore.
And I have a(n?) good airflow in my system with my 8x120mm and not a bad cpu cooler.

1.50v is bios setting, cpuz is 1.480, as I was saying I will do some more tests at home, now I'm at work :)

p.s. It may have been the low temperatures outside when I was doing the testing, window was open, maybe my room temperature was lower.

[ChaosAD]

1.50v is bios setting actual is 1.480, as I was saying I will do some more tests at home, now I'm at work :)

I thought that Maximus always overvolt.I have Vcore to 1.41 in bios and its 1.392 in cpuz.So i guess cpu overvolting is not common.

[newls1]

I thought that Maximus always overvolt.I have Vcore to 1.41 in bios and its 1.392 in cpuz.So i guess cpu overvolting is not common.

enable "LOAD CALIBRATION";)

[CERO]

I thought that Maximus always overvolt.I have Vcore to 1.41 in bios and its 1.392 in cpuz.So i guess cpu overvolting is not common.

its the vdrop, that is very commen, but this board doesnt suffer from vdroop, thus idle/load , no differences, on some voltages it actually overvolts!

[ReZ_]

Hey guys, I got a question...

What is the differents if your getting 3.6Ghz using 8x450FSB or 9x400FSB?

Any advantages of having a higher FSB or multipler?

I have see a lot of guys using either setup, or is it just personal preferance?

Higher FSB is best, but I opted to go the 9x route. Temps are more reasonable, and running the stock multi for your cpu is a good idea... It seems more stable for me on the 0907 bios too.

Imagine if you want to reach 4ghz, you will need to go 9x444, as 8x500 is pretty much impossible on this board...

[FZ1]

enable "LOAD CALIBRATION";)

Take a look at Anantech's article regarding OC'ing the 9650. They don't recommend this at all (nor circumventing the vdroop).

[FZ1]

anyone getting a quad to 4.0 on this mobo
im at 3.9 stable with 1.55volts and a load temp below -22c and lower. :) I am, but it's a 9650. I upped the volts a little on the CPU PLL and it helped.

[ReZ_]

I'm using 8x400 and yeh, I'm on air cooling. My concern is whether CoreTemp or SpeedFan give me accurate temps so I can decide to move on from there. Btw, you get 65 load for all 4 cores at full load? That's impressive, maybe cuz you have WC. :clap:

coretemp and everest give exactly the same temps for me... As of the latest bios, i do not trust the "cpu" temperature, it's wonky. :shrug: Trust the core temps.

I trust everest. I don't even use speedfan. I tried it and i think it sucks more than pcprobe! I still use coretemp to monitor my cores on the fly (everest takes a few seconds to load, coretemp is instant)

65c is ok, not all that great... I have the Gigabyte Galaxy WC kit pre-modded in my case... it's not all that great a system. 3/8" tubing... somewhat noisy pump, but the small rad is the weakest link IMHO. I reached 3.84ghz with it, stable, but cores were close to 80c... so i backed off to 3.6ghz. I don't feel the slightest difference... it only shows in benchmarks.

[ChaosAD]

enable "LOAD CALIBRATION";)

You mean bios option named loadline calibration right?Many have this option enabled and others have it disabled...So whats the optimum set for this?What is the real difference?Does it affect stability?

[iadstudio]

I have a question about the Overheat protection on this board.

Once I updated to 0907 there is no longer an option for the CPU overheat protection in the BIOS under hardware monitoring. Now it just says "COP EX" in black and the overheat protection for the chipsets. Is there soemthing else in the bios that needs to be set to enable cpu overheat protection? or am i loosing my mind? This used to be an option, right?

Anyone?

[youraa]

1.50v is bios setting, cpuz is 1.480, as I was saying I will do some more tests at home, now I'm at work :)

p.s. It may have been the low temperatures outside when I was doing the testing, window was open, maybe my room temperature was lower.


sorry guys you were right :) it was much colder than it is now 19.2C in my room, I think the temps will go over 60C but don't have time to run the test longer :( gotta work.

[Grnfinger]

Anyone?

I have the same
COP EX black'd out

And I do recall the CPU overheat protection option in 802

[iTravis]

coretemp and everest give exactly the same temps for me... As of the latest bios, i do not trust the "cpu" temperature, it's wonky. :shrug: Trust the core temps.

I trust everest. I don't even use speedfan. I tried it and i think it sucks more than pcprobe! I still use coretemp to monitor my cores on the fly (everest takes a few seconds to load, coretemp is instant)

65c is ok, not all that great... I have the Gigabyte Galaxy WC kit pre-modded in my case... it's not all that great a system. 3/8" tubing... somewhat noisy pump, but the small rad is the weakest link IMHO. I reached 3.84ghz with it, stable, but cores were close to 80c... so i backed off to 3.6ghz. I don't feel the slightest difference... it only shows in benchmarks.

Maybe I just rely on CoreTemp from now on since SpeedFan gives me about 15-20 degrees difference in temps. :( Btw, I'm still at 3.2Ghz rock solid stable but I'm gonna move up to 3.4Ghz 2nite. I might as well consider watercooling if I can't reach 3.6Ghz, don't really know if it's worth it.
And you're right, there might not be a difference in performance but we as OCers wanna reach the highest clock as possible right? :)
P/S: CoreTemp gives me 50 at load @3.2 Ghz and over 80 at full load? Is that normal?

[iTravis]

pictures of my rig above, my room temp around 20-21

That's impressive for 3.6Ghz at such low temp like that. I'm in CA and the weather doesn't get that cold. I would say the lowest is around 40-45 at night but oh well...as long as I can't reach 3.6Ghz stable, that's all I care. :D

[Grnfinger]

Maybe I just rely on CoreTemp from now on since SpeedFan gives me about 15-20 degrees difference in temps. :( Btw, I'm still at 3.2Ghz rock solid stable but I'm gonna move up to 3.4Ghz 2nite. I might as well consider watercooling if I can't reach 3.6Ghz, don't really know if it's worth it.
And you're right, there might not be a difference in performance but we as OCers wanna reach the highest clock as possible right? :)
P/S: CoreTemp gives me 50 at load @3.2 Ghz and over 80 at full load? Is that normal?

The performance gain from 3.4GHz to 3.6GHz is very little unless your going to overclock the :banana::banana::banana::banana: out of your ram, Core Temp is best to monitor temps.
3.4 should be easy to hit if you have 3.2 stable. I would recomend the 8 multi for bandwidth but thats up to you.

[ReZ_]

P/S: CoreTemp gives me 50 at load @3.2 Ghz and over 80 at full load? Is that normal?

I've said it before, that's the max i would go : 80c on hottest core.

3.2ghz = 80c? what multi is that again? 8x400?
maybe try 9x355, recheck the temps.
maybe try 7x450!

my advice is to not go above 80c. Hey, maybe it can run at 90c for 365days, do you really want to find out??

maybe reseat the cpu fan? If i had to start over, i would probably save a few $ and go with an excellent air setup.

[iTravis]

The performance gain from 3.4GHz to 3.6GHz is very little unless your going to overclock the :banana::banana::banana::banana: out of your ram, Core Temp is best to monitor temps.
3.4 should be easy to hit if you have 3.2 stable. I would recomend the 8 multi for bandwidth but thats up to you.

Thanks Grnfinger, good to hear that. (The :banana: makes me LMAO) :lol:
I'm using 8 multi and it's been stable for me so 425x8 for 2nite. I used the previous version of CoreTemp so it might give me the wrong temp. I'll go ahead and download the latest to run along with a new benchie 2nite as soon as I'll get out of work.

[iTravis]

I've said it before, that's the max i would go : 80c on hottest core.

3.2ghz = 80c? what multi is that again? 8x400?
maybe try 9x355, recheck the temps.
maybe try 7x450!

my advice is to not go above 80c. Hey, maybe it can run at 90c for 365days, do you really want to find out??

maybe reseat the cpu fan? If i had to start over, i would probably save a few $ and go with an excellent air setup.

Yeh I use 8x400 for 3.2Ghz. I'll check it out if it goes above 80 when I hit 3.4Ghz 2nite and decide from there.
I don't know what else to get for my cooling since I think the Ultra 120 Xtreme is consider one of the best for air cooling. :(

[ReZ_]

I don't know what else to get for my cooling since I think the Ultra 120 Xtreme is consider one of the best for air cooling. :(

did you reseat it? Those temps are unbelievable with that cooler... :shrug:

[iTravis]

did you reseat it? Those temps are unbelievable with that cooler... :shrug:

I'm testing with 425x8 and 378x9 at 1.41V and both appear to be unstable and fail Prime95 after just couple mins. :( My core temps at idle are 55-55-47-48 and full load at 93-93-86-86. Don't really know what went wrong and I don't think re-seat could help but I'll do that today and see what happens. :(

[M3kk]

What is the best bios for Maximus Formula + Qx9650 KIT? Thanks.

[kup]

What is the best bios for Maximus Formula + Qx9650 KIT? Thanks.

I don't have the CPU, but from an official support point of view, the latest 0907 bios would be best, IMO.

[BulldogPO]

Yes, only latest 0907 has workin 0.0 multipliers.

[iadstudio]

I have the same
COP EX black'd out

And I do recall the CPU overheat protection option in 802


That actually really sucks. Since everything else is air cooled, I don't think the machine would shut down until the water does it's damage.

GD ASUS, wtf are you guys doing over there!!!!!

to make things worse, I'm on Vista 64 so flashing back to an older bios would be a real PITA!

Anyone with insight into this problem PLEASE ADVISE! This drastically decreases the value of this board for h2o. To replace that feature with hardware it would cost quite a few $.

[Zucker2k]

That actually really sucks. Since everything else is air cooled, I don't think the machine would shut down until the water does it's damage.

GD ASUS, wtf are you guys doing over there!!!!!

to make things worse, I'm on Vista 64 so flashing back to an older bios would be a real PITA!

Anyone with insight into this problem PLEASE ADVISE! This drastically decreases the value of this board for h2o. To replace that feature with hardware it would cost quite a few $.

Are you saying the machine should be able to detect a water spill and shut off?

[ReZ_]

My core temps at idle are 55-55-47-48 and full load at 93-93-86-86.

jesus......

i hope the reseat will work.... did you try the cpu on a different board?
maybe RMA the cpu, those temps are..... not normal :ROTF:

[Grnfinger]

jesus......

i hope the reseat will work.... did you try the cpu on a different board?
maybe RMA the cpu, those temps are..... not normal :ROTF:

Perhaps b4 you get the guy all worked up thinking his cpu is a dud why not get some info
room ambiant air
case ambiant air
what brand of thermal paste
how was paste applied
current bios settings

I would personally lean towards it being an improper install

[CERO]

Are really none of u dont got this P95 bug? if u set vcore higher then 1.4000v @ bios with multiplier 9x, prime.exe wont load 99&#37;. but with 8x multiplier it wont. Just wait 1 min before it pass test1 then u see the is dropping to 89% instead of 99%.....I really hate it, so I am limited by this, otherwise I could test 4.0ghz.... for 24/7 on air....

[iTravis]

Perhaps b4 you get the guy all worked up thinking his cpu is a dud why not get some info
room ambiant air
case ambiant air
what brand of thermal paste
how was paste applied
current bios settings

I would personally lean towards it being an improper install

I don't think it's the CPU since I get pretty good temp at idle and load (40 idle at 3.4Ghz ain't that good?). And I think Grnfinger might be right about the way I install the heatsink and such. Anyway, FYI:
- Room temp: 45 F
- Case temp: 37 F
- I use the ZM-STG1 that came with when I bought my Zalman 9700.
- I just applied a thin layer and spread on over the CPU surface.
- My BIOS settings are based on yours :D

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-950
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.41
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.98
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

P/S: I might consider water cooling since this gives me enough headache. You guys have any recommendations for a good, budget WC kit?

[newls1]

I don't think it's the CPU since I get pretty good temp at idle and load (40 idle at 3.4Ghz ain't that good?). And I think Grnfinger might be right about the way I install the heatsink and such. Anyway, FYI:
- Room temp: 45 F
- Case temp: 37 F
- I use the ZM-STG1 that came with when I bought my Zalman 9700.
- I just applied a thin layer and spread on over the CPU surface.
- My BIOS settings are based on yours :D

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-950
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : 1.41
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 1.98
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

P/S: I might consider water cooling since this gives me enough headache. You guys have any recommendations for a good, budget WC kit?

Not sure on the budget part, but I can help you with WaterCooling:) PM if interested.

[iadstudio]

Are you saying the machine should be able to detect a water spill and shut off?

No, im's saying overheat protection for the cpu is an important function. It would be nice if I could get it back.

[ReZ_]

Perhaps b4 you get the guy all worked up thinking his cpu is a dud why not get some info
room ambiant air
case ambiant air
what brand of thermal paste
how was paste applied
current bios settings

I would personally lean towards it being an improper install

come on.... 83c at 3.2ghz....:poke:

brand of thermal paste??? :rofl: that's ridiculous.

improper install? that's what i'm discussing : RESEAT :yawn2:

[eSp!s0]

come on.... 83c at 3.2ghz....:poke:

brand of thermal paste??? :rofl: that's ridiculous.

improper install? that's what i'm discussing : RESEAT :yawn2:

With this temps, he didn`t use any thermal paste
Is their a cooler at the cpu? :rolleyes:

[famich]

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa196/famich/OCCT39001408VC.jpg

I d like to share this .. running EK WB with the Alphacool "Kreiselpumpe "
ordinary WC setup -great CPU VID 1.21 :)
1.408 under load VDROOP is there , though, no voltmodding has been done

;)

[fordf250]

Just got this mb the other day, wish I had the se water cooled mb.Trying to get the oc that other people get (e6600) when I have a good wc setup was getting crazy 1.65Vcore, pll 1.8v and nb 1.7-8 for 425fsbx9 with nb temps at 40C, good right? Wrong.

I now know it is all about cooling the nb. With a 100cfm 120mm fan over the nb, now running 475fsbx8, 1.5Vcore, nb 1.65V and pll at auto with 32C temps on nb with p95.

Now to see if I can get the same to work with the quad.

500fsb first with e6600 I think I will try.

[MiamiMuscleBoy]

Do you guys know why I am stuck at 465 fsb on asus maximus and what might be causeing DET RAM hang when trying to use ballistix ddr2 1066 sticks? I have gone over 475 fsb on other motherboards and all have no probelms with ballistix , i have had to use mushkin xp8000 sticks to get my board to post with new 0907 bios? e6750@3.73 465fsb , I dont know what trans booster or fsb strap should be set at I left everything auto except for cpu volt 1.55 and mem volt 2.4

[fordf250]

500fsbx8 with e6600 WOOT!!

CPU rad fans on low, 1.6Vcore 70C load, need to turn them up, this cpu posted but would not boot at 4.25G with a 680i.

Just reading through the threads. Does this mb have an ihs on the nb, I hated the old intel nb you hade to be so carefull cooling it with a waterblock.I have a DD maze4 wb, didnt know it would fit. Now happy I didnt spend the extra on the se and can still wc the nb.

[Relic27777]

Hey guys I just put some new mx-2 on my cpu and tried rebooting and had no luck getting it to post. Then I noticed that the cpu voltminder does not light up. All the other voltminder leds light up just not the cpu one. I know I didn't make a mistake on the mx-2 application, been doing it for years. How could my CPU just randomly die?

[Grnfinger]

come on.... 83c at 3.2ghz....:poke:

brand of thermal paste??? :rofl: that's ridiculous.

improper install? that's what i'm discussing : RESEAT :yawn2:

First off if you would take the time to read his post and not just run your mouth you would see that he is running STABLE and IDLES at 40c @3.4GHz @1.40 volts ON AIR so thats not bad at all. But your advice is to rma the cpu:rofl:

Now pull your head out of your ass for 1 second and let your brain get some oxygen. Clearly if under load he gets insane temps while the idle is respectable there is most likely a tim issue or cooler issue.
Now he has reported that he has used the crap Zalman sent with his 9700 hmmm. but hey thats rediculous right????
If the cpu fan is controlled and NOT spining up when under load that could explain alot of his troubles if not all of them.
So if you dont have anything productive or constructive to say why not remain silent? Instead you choose to be arogant and abrasive, why??
ppl come here for help / advice not attitude

[fordf250]

What FSBT over 500fsb?Running 1.62 now on auto. Thanks.

[leoftw]

I have a question about the sound card on this board. Is it better than any other onboard audio card ?

[CERO]

Yes it is.

[newls1]

First off if you would take the time to read his post and not just run your mouth you would see that he is running STABLE and IDLES at 40c @3.4GHz @1.40 volts ON AIR so thats not bad at all. But your advice is to rma the cpu:rofl:

Now pull your head out of your ass for 1 second and let your brain get some oxygen. Clearly if under load he gets insane temps while the idle is respectable there is most likely a tim issue or cooler issue.
Now he has reported that he has used the crap Zalman sent with his 9700 hmmm. but hey thats rediculous right????
If the cpu fan is controlled and NOT spining up when under load that could explain alot of his troubles if not all of them.
So if you dont have anything productive or constructive to say why not remain silent? Instead you choose to be arogant and abrasive, why??
ppl come here for help / advice not attitude

Very well said:up: You want attitude, head on over to the [H] forums:clap:

[yobi]

sound card on this board is wery well.

[bummerboy]

Hi everyone, i really need help here.

Problem : The pc will reboot by itself after a few hours of usage, no bsod, just black out and reboot. and upon reboot it wont be able to get into windows until I power off, let it rest for 10sec and restart. Then the cycle will repeat itself.

This happens no matter I am in OC or non-OC mode.

Spec :
Maximus Formula 1.03g BIOS 907
Intel E6750
4x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400 (OCZ Memory Cooler on top)
Geforce 7900GS (not OCed)
1x750GB seagate barracuda + 3x320GB barracuda (in AHCI mode)
Antec Trio-650W



My OC settings (3.33Ghz, ddr@1000-5,5,5,15,2.2):
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [Auto]
FSB Frequency [416]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [333MHz]
PCIE Frequency [101]
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [DDR2-999]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time [15]
RAS# To Ras# Delay [Auto]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [Auto]
Write Recovery Time [Auto]
Read To Precharge Time [Auto]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Read Delay(D) [Auto]
Read To Read Delay(S) [Auto]
Read To Read Delay(D) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(S) [Auto]
Write To Write Delay(D) [Auto]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Strong]
Transaction Booster [Disabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage [Auto] (at 1.32V)
CPU PLL Voltage [1.57v]
North Bridge Voltage [Auto] (at 1.65V)
DRAM Voltage [2.08v] (at 2.208V)
FSB Termination Voltage [Auto]
South Bridge Voltage [Auto]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [Auto]
North Bridge GTL Reference [Auto]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage [Auto]

I have tried many variation, using BS400 and 800@4-4-4-12, 1066@5-5-5-15, 800@5-5-5-15, all give me same problem. some settings will reboot earlier, others a bit later, but same problem. I ran using 1HDD, also same problem.

Reseated cpu, reinstall the whole mobo after rearranging the cables, etc etc.
Did memtest on each stick individually, and in dual stick mode (for both sets) and it will turn out no error even at 1066 settings.

I have tried various voltage settings, and recommended settings in this forum, as well as the other 200++ page forum, and googled everything i could on maximus formula. I tried 602 and 907 bios, same problem. And even in 907 i get very high temp reading, when running everest, i could only do memory test, as it uses 50ish&#37; and cpucore0,1 at 90+degree C. I couldnt even do cpu test because it goes >100C, that's like.. BOILING point. But the sink isnt even hot. Orthos will cause a thermal alarm and shut down. ARG!


As you can tell this isnt really a gaming machine, more for graphic/video/coding work.

I am extremely frustratred now, please help shed some light on this very very strange board. I will supply any other information that I might have missed out here.

[fordf250]

What are you using for cpu cooling?

[magica]

PROBLEM WITH SOUND CARD. Why in the hell do I have to put this card next to the cpu!!!

Gamer built? LOL

[bummerboy]

What are you using for cpu cooling?

Was using stock, just tried a coolermaster hyper tx2, same problem.
When i first used 907, it was reporting cpu around 17C, core around 40C.
Then i downgraded to 602 for stability sake, but that didnt help, and now that i flash it back to 907, my temp is stuck at 602 ranges of 30C cpu, and 50ish-->90+C for load.

also, when i run at stock speed, with no OC except fixed ram timing and voltage, i get the same random reboot problem.

any advice? thanks in advance.

[fordf250]

How hot is your case? Are you getting the bsod or just a shutdown.I hade a 750w power supply that would shutdown if the case got over 40C .

[bummerboy]

How hot is your case? Are you getting the bsod or just a shutdown.I hade a 750w power supply that would shutdown if the case got over 40C .


hi there, i running with the case open, mobo at 35C, NB 39-40C, both according to everest, room temp about 25-27C.

I am trying to figure if it is a temp problem, or psu problem.
And btw it reboots blankly even when idling, temp of high 40C core, which should be quite normal...

I cant think anymore :shocked:

[iadstudio]

Was using stock, just tried a coolermaster hyper tx2, same problem.
When i first used 907, it was reporting cpu around 17C, core around 40C.
Then i downgraded to 602 for stability sake, but that didnt help, and now that i flash it back to 907, my temp is stuck at 602 ranges of 30C cpu, and 50ish-->90+C for load.

also, when i run at stock speed, with no OC except fixed ram timing and voltage, i get the same random reboot problem.

any advice? thanks in advance.


couple comments, Your settings:


Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage [Auto] (at 1.32V)
CPU PLL Voltage [1.57v]
North Bridge Voltage [Auto] (at 1.65V)
DRAM Voltage [2.08v] (at 2.208V)
FSB Termination Voltage [Auto]
South Bridge Voltage [Auto]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [Auto]
North Bridge GTL Reference [Auto]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]


Has a little too much "auto" in it for me. This board is extremely sensitive to correct voltage and I don't trust auto at all. This simply is not an auto board.

Also, what are your load temps now? And have you downloaded OCCT and run it with Everest to see voltage curves? That reboot sound like a voltage issue of some sort. It woudl at least be good to rule voltage out as the culprit.

JMO

[iadstudio]

onboard audio card ?

isn't that an oxymoron?

and I've found this card to be slightly better than any onboard audio I've had. A bit more crisp if you ask me but I only have 2 Bose speakers, no surroundsound.

[nvous23]

I installed XP SP3 and everything is great, but I can't get the audio drivers installed at all. I tried the setup exe and that fails, then i tried to manually update the driver by forcing it to install the INF and that didn't work either. Any suggestions?

[[timko]]

Bummerboy,

Try disabling "Loadline Calibration" and set your CPU voltage to about 1.35v for now. Save and exit the bios, go back in and goto the "Hardware Monitoring" section and make sure it shows about 1.32v there for vcore as well. If not, go back to the settings and increase it, save + exit + re-enter bios until it gets 1.32v or slightly above.

The crashing while idling even at stock mhz, volts etc is sometimes caused by enabling Loadline Calibration so in order to fix it you have to disable it. This doesn't happen to everyone and it sounds silly that it would crash at idle + stock but it happens and it can be fixed. This was confirmed by Anandtech in one of their recent articles with an Asus P5E3 and the latest QX9650...

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3184&p=5

One negative is that your vdroop will now be slightly larger than before when your CPU is loaded. However, if you can find the right vcore to offset this for a given stable Ghz then it's not really a major issue :)

[cuke2u]

I installed XP SP3 and everything is great, but I can't get the audio drivers installed at all. I tried the setup exe and that fails, then i tried to manually update the driver by forcing it to install the INF and that didn't work either. Any suggestions?

Hi, I've read somewhere that there is a problem with sp3 and hd audio. You might be better without the service pack until MS sort out this issue upon final release.
I've just found this acticle http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2951&Itemid=38
Chris

[eSp!s0]

Yes it is.

Sorry, but I found P35-DQ6 onboardsound a bit better than SurpremeFX. There are different opinions about this.
There are also that people saying, that there is no difference between the SurpremeFX and a X-Fi, but I can hear the difference clearly.

[eSp!s0]

Hi, I've read somewhere that there is a problem with sp3 and hd audio. You might be better without the service pack until MS sort out this issue upon final release.
I've just found this acticle http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2951&Itemid=38
Chris

I had problems with my OC-Bios for my 8800GTS with SP3. You are right in saying to wait for official release :yepp:

[bummerboy]

Iadstudio : Hi there, I did try various fixed setting (non-auto) based of the forum here, anandtech and other oc forums. I noticed that most are quite similar, and i have exhausted almost all possible combination, and found that auto for most of them gives me least errors (etc superpi and orthos etc)

Timko : Wow thanks great new info. will try that next.

After my post earlier, i had turned down the core V to a super low 1.25V, reading about 1.21 on everest/cpuid. And it ran stable at stock speed 2.66 until now, idle cpu temp is at a ridiculous 18c? no possible coz my room is already 25! core at 40C, load to about 70+C.

I dont use occt, i did try othos and everest stability test. Previously on 1.32V, my load temp went to 100 on core1! but the sink doesnt feel hot at all. And i read so much about maximus bios not reading temp properly, yet my coretemp, everest, pcwizard all read the same temp back to me.

now i am suspecting perhaps the thermal grease is screwed, gotta go get a tube of AS5 soon.

[bummerboy]

http://xtreview.com/images/Intel-Core-2-duo-FSB1333-Core-2-Duo&#37;20E6750-E6550/core-2-Duo-6750-03.jpg

i think this is damn cool, low cpuV and 3.6Ghz!

[eSp!s0]

Yes it is. I need 1,312V for 450x8 with my E6750, but I can do that with 1,25VNB and 1,20VFSB, what do you need there?

[ReZ_]

So if you dont have anything productive or constructive to say why not remain silent? Instead you choose to be arogant and abrasive, why??
ppl come here for help / advice not attitude

I'm not giving attitude. You are INTERPRETING attitude. Maybe you are sensitive? I don't know, in any case, i'm sorry.

If you think that thermal paste BRAND has major impact, maybe you are the kind of people who put stickers on their cars and think it makes them faster? I don't know. :shrug:

Anyways, he's using a TRUE, from what i saw, he's not using ZALMAN fans... but this thread is quite long, so maybe he mentionned it somewhere, i'm not going to look it up. From his sig, if i remember correctly, he built more than one rig, and i don't think of him as a newb, so i think he's wise enough to put thermal paste (this one goes to whoever thought he didn't use any at all, whoever you are...). 90c is too hot, and by judging by the size of the TRUE, and from what i heard (good things), i'm suggesting that MAYBE the cpu has issues, that's not impossible, ok grnfinger?

I've suggested our friend in need to RESEAT the cpu, and even INSTALL IT ON ANOTHER BOARD, just to see if the cpu is really worth an RMA.

So please, ppl, relax...
:kissbutt: otherwise.



oh and newls1, couldn't care less. ;) xx

[ReZ_]

First off if you would take the time to read his post and not just run your mouth

oh, and btw, his 9700 you are SOOOO proud to put in my face... well... he's using that in his OTHER rig... the old AMD......

so i think you should be the one letting some oxygen into your brain and stfu instead of exploding flames for no reason. :idea:

[Grnfinger]

I don't think it's the CPU since I get pretty good temp at idle and load (40 idle at 3.4Ghz ain't that good?). And I think Grnfinger might be right about the way I install the heatsink and such. Anyway, FYI:
- Room temp: 45 F
- Case temp: 37 F
- I use the ZM-STG1 that came with when I bought my Zalman 9700.
- I just applied a thin layer and spread on over the CPU surface.
- My BIOS settings are based on yours :D



I cuold have sworn that i've seen that option in my bios at one time, and it was ENABLED.

My bios did boost my FSBtm to 2.0v too, by itself. I showed over 2v in pcprobe and everest and in the bios hardware monitor :shrug:

damn board makes me lose my credibility! :ROTF:


to quote :

The Maximus Formula Special Edition motherboard is based on the Intel X38 Northbridge chipset and the Intel ICH9R Southbridge chipset. It supports Intel Core 2 Quad, Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Extreme, Pentium D , Pentium 4 Extreme Edition and Celeron D4xx Processors, with Hyper-Threading Technology and 800/1066/1333/1600MHz Front Side Bus support.



I'm not kidding guys, i DID see that hyperthreading option in my bios. I was in the section where you have C1E, TM, Vanderpool, etc..... it was located at the very bottom of that list, now it's a blank blue line....... :p:

Again READ a post b4 you run your mouth as your looking kinda pathetic atm
I dont think anymore needs to be said, you have displayed your intelligence quite nicely

[iTravis]

Okay guys, let me clear this up a bit. I just used the thermal paste that came with the Zalman 9700CNPS but I use the TRUE for my main rig and the 9700 for my 2nd one.
Anyway, I just bought AS 5 thermal compound to reapply as well as reseat the TRUE and I did get a better temp, but only by a small margin since it's still at 90 for 2 cores under full load @3.4Ghz (it was like 96 b4 I reseat). Don't know if it actually take some time so the thermal compound can reach its maximum conductivity.
Btw, I notice there are some scratches on the base of my heatsink and I think that could be the issue, too much hassle for me to RMA the heatsink anyway so I think I gotto find another way to keep the temp lower.
Just wanna say thank you to you guys for your helps. I really appreciate that.

[Grnfinger]

Okay guys, let me clear this up a bit. I just used the thermal paste that came with the Zalman 9700CNPS but I use the TRUE for my main rig and the 9700 for my 2nd one.
Anyway, I just bought AS 5 thermal compound to reapply as well as reseat the TRUE and I did get a better temp, but only by a small margin since it's still at 90 for 2 cores under full load @3.4Ghz (it was like 96 b4 I reseat). Don't know if it actually take some time so the thermal compound can reach its maximum conductivity.
Btw, I notice there are some scratches on the base of my heatsink and I think that could be the issue, too much hassle for me to RMA the heatsink anyway so I think I gotto find another way to keep the temp lower.
Just wanna say thank you to you guys for your helps. I really appreciate that.

I know that you have used the thermal paste ONLY from Zalman and not the cooler itself. I normally dont get into pissing matches with ppl but there are exceptions. So dont feel responsible in anyway for 2 ppl acting like children.
I am concernd why your temps are not better for that cooler. I doubt that the scratches are your problem but I could be wrong. Your idle temp is excellent for air imo so I can only suggest its not making proper contact with the cpu. I did at first lean towards the Zalman paste, I have used it b4 and its rather cheesey at best. Do you have a window case? could you point a fan at the cpu and see if that lowers the temps?
How are all the other temps in your rig?
NB
SB
GPU

[eSp!s0]

Okay guys, let me clear this up a bit. I just used the thermal paste that came with the Zalman 9700CNPS but I use the TRUE for my main rig and the 9700 for my 2nd one.
Anyway, I just bought AS 5 thermal compound to reapply as well as reseat the TRUE and I did get a better temp, but only by a small margin since it's still at 90 for 2 cores under full load @3.4Ghz (it was like 96 b4 I reseat). Don't know if it actually take some time so the thermal compound can reach its maximum conductivity.
Btw, I notice there are some scratches on the base of my heatsink and I think that could be the issue, too much hassle for me to RMA the heatsink anyway so I think I gotto find another way to keep the temp lower.
Just wanna say thank you to you guys for your helps. I really appreciate that.

The temperatures at load are too high and the AS5 won`t do much better. The TR coolers are convex. Does the thermal paste fill out the hole heatsink buttom? I saw posts at forumdeluxx.de, where temperature were bad with TR cooler cause of too convex buttom.

[iTravis]

I know that you have used the thermal paste ONLY from Zalman and not the cooler itself. I normally dont get into pissing matches with ppl but there are exceptions. So dont feel responsible in anyway for 2 ppl acting like children.
I am concernd why your temps are not better for that cooler. I doubt that the scratches are your problem but I could be wrong. Your idle temp is excellent for air imo so I can only suggest its not making proper contact with the cpu. I did at first lean towards the Zalman paste, I have used it b4 and its rather cheesey at best. Do you have a window case? could you point a fan at the cpu and see if that lowers the temps?
How are all the other temps in your rig?
NB
SB
GPU

I don't have a digital camera so I can't take picture. :D Anyway, I do have a side window and I know my fan run at maximum speed.
And these are my temps according to Everest:
Motherboard: 34
CPU: 35
Core temps: 50-50-47-47
NB: 46
SB: 42
GPU: 54
CPU core: 1.37 (I set 1.39 in BIOS)
FSB VTT: 1.47
NB core: 1.55
SB core: 1.09
SB PLL: 1.57

They're all at idle.


Quote:
Originally Posted by iTravis View Post
Okay guys, let me clear this up a bit. I just used the thermal paste that came with the Zalman 9700CNPS but I use the TRUE for my main rig and the 9700 for my 2nd one.
Anyway, I just bought AS 5 thermal compound to reapply as well as reseat the TRUE and I did get a better temp, but only by a small margin since it's still at 90 for 2 cores under full load @3.4Ghz (it was like 96 b4 I reseat). Don't know if it actually take some time so the thermal compound can reach its maximum conductivity.
Btw, I notice there are some scratches on the base of my heatsink and I think that could be the issue, too much hassle for me to RMA the heatsink anyway so I think I gotto find another way to keep the temp lower.
Just wanna say thank you to you guys for your helps. I really appreciate that.
The temperatures at load are too high and the AS5 won`t do much better. The TR coolers are convex. Does the thermal paste fill out the hole heatsink buttom? I saw posts at forumdeluxx.de, where temperature were bad with TR cooler cause of too convex buttom.

You could be right, I can twist my heatsink a little even though I already tighten all the scews. I might need to lap the heatsink, how do I start with? Never do such things b4. :(

[bummerboy]

I am wondering how accurate 907 temp readings are. I am getting this at idle.

Motherboard: 35
CPU: 19
Core temps: 45-47
NB: 41
SB: 38
GPU: 55
CPU core: 1.25V
FSB VTT: 1.49
NB core: 1.65
SB core: 1.14



If you think that thermal paste BRAND has major impact, maybe you are the kind of people who put stickers on their cars and think it makes them faster? I don't know.

It is NOT about the BRAND, but the compound. And it is more akin to changing your car oil from using mineral oil to synthetic oil, the engine runs cooler therefore you CAN go faster.

Stickers are sticky, not greasy.


Yes it is. I need 1,312V for 450x8 with my E6750, but I can do that with 1,25VNB and 1,20VFSB, what do you need there?

Thats not my reading, I saw it on another site, I would like to achieve that, am running on 1.25V 3.33Ghz now, hopefully it stays stable. Anything beyond 1.3 is just giving me random reboots.

Another thing is, I did reseat my CPU, and it was after the reseat that I get +10C on core temp reading. At first I thought it was bios 602, but after reflashing 907 i am still getting high temp.


Seems like I am the only one using a dualcore here, and it is hard to gauge against the vcore and temp of all these q6600. Anyone had any idea on an estimate of e6750 voltage requirement at various speed ranging from stock to say 3.6?

[eSp!s0]

I don't have a digital camera so I can't take picture. :D Anyway, I do have a side window and I know my fan run at maximum speed.
And these are my temps according to Everest:
Motherboard: 34
CPU: 35
Core temps: 50-50-47-47
NB: 46
SB: 42
GPU: 54
CPU core: 1.37 (I set 1.39 in BIOS)
FSB VTT: 1.47
NB core: 1.55
SB core: 1.09
SB PLL: 1.57

They're all at idle.


You could be right, I can twist my heatsink a little even though I already tighten all the scews. I might need to lap the heatsink, how do I start with? Never do such things b4. :(

It is normal, that you can twist the heatsink a bit when mounted! You can`t act in accordance with that.
Remove the TRUE and check, if thermal paste was filling out the whole cpu heatspreader would be my tip. You did remove the protection film from TRUE heatsink!?

[eSp!s0]

I am wondering how accurate 907 temp readings are. I am getting this at idle.

Motherboard: 35
CPU: 19
Core temps: 45-47
NB: 41
SB: 38
GPU: 55
CPU core: 1.25V
FSB VTT: 1.49
NB core: 1.65
SB core: 1.14




It is NOT about the BRAND, but the compound. And it is more akin to changing your car oil from using mineral oil to synthetic oil, the engine runs cooler therefore you CAN go faster.

Stickers are sticky, not greasy.



Thats not my reading, I saw it on another site, I would like to achieve that, am running on 1.25V 3.33Ghz now, hopefully it stays stable. Anything beyond 1.3 is just giving me random reboots.

Another thing is, I did reseat my CPU, and it was after the reseat that I get +10C on core temp reading. At first I thought it was bios 602, but after reflashing 907 i am still getting high temp.


Seems like I am the only one using a dualcore here, and it is hard to gauge against the vcore and temp of all these q6600. Anyone had any idea on an estimate of e6750 voltage requirement at various speed ranging from stock to say 3.6?

Sorry, but I don`t understand completly(because of my bad english). I use an E6750@3,6Ghz, what do you want/need? You run 3,33 with 1,25V and 1,3xx and higher gives you reboot!? I know that my E6750 runs 3,5Ghz with 1,325V bios and I need to go higher to 1,337V bios for 3,6, but that is the lowest vcore for 3,6 and I tested that, I didn`t test lower vcore for 3,5Ghz. The lowest vcore 3,5ghz is running stable could be lower is what I want to say. This both voltages won`t help you and I am a bit tired of testing atm.
You NB voltage is quiet high for a dualcore and 3,33Ghz, do you need that high NB for getting ram stable?

[bummerboy]

Sorry, but I don`t understand completly(because of my bad english). I use an E6750@3,6Ghz, what do you want/need? You run 3,33 with 1,25V and 1,3xx and higher gives you reboot!? I know that my E6750 runs 3,5Ghz with 1,325V bios and I need to go higher to 1,337V bios for 3,6, but that is the lowest vcore for 3,6 and I tested that, I didn`t test lower vcore for 3,5Ghz. The lowest vcore 3,5ghz is running stable could be lower is what I want to say. This both voltages won`t help you and I am a bit tired of testing atm.
You NB voltage is quiet high for a dualcore and 3,33Ghz, do you need that high NB for getting ram stable?

Hi there,

If you read my previous post asking for help, you'll know my problem. I had it at 1.32V and my windows will randomly reboot, after about 1-2 hours.
so i posted my bios setting for help. I also found that my temp seems unnaturally high, and weird. How can my cpu show 19C on everest when my room is already 25C at least?

After recommendation by timko I had turn off load line calibration, and i ran it on lower vcore of 1.25v.. been somewhat stable so far, but i dont dare to do orthos and everest stability test for too long because the temp looks dangerous at 80-90C

I am using 1.65V NB to power 4sticks of ballistix ddr800@1000@2.2v, which is within it's EPP spec.

[eSp!s0]

Hi there,

If you read my previous post asking for help, you'll know my problem. I had it at 1.32V and my windows will randomly reboot, after about 1-2 hours.
so i posted my bios setting for help. I also found that my temp seems unnaturally high, and weird. How can my cpu show 19C on everest when my room is already 25C at least?

After recommendation by timko I had turn off load line calibration, and i ran it on lower vcore of 1.25v.. been somewhat stable so far, but i dont dare to do orthos and everest stability test for too long because the temp looks dangerous at 80-90C

I am using 1.65V NB to power 4sticks of ballistix ddr800@1000@2.2v, which is within it's EPP spec.

I read your post, but because of my bad english, i am german, i couldn`t get it right, sorry.
1. The temperature is read out too low. This bug comes with/from Bios 0907, the cpu shows about 10° less than real/with other bios. But the cpu cores are read out right and you have to look after them.
I did know that before I got my new non-SE and I just flashed to 0903 and stayed with to get more realistic cpu temperature. I you didn`t have problems with 0903 and it`s possible, you could change back to 0903, there are no differences for me to 0907 in OC, 0903 is actually a very little bit faster in everest for me with same settings.

[eSp!s0]

2. I just can give you my settings and you try them, but every system runs different. I tried OCCT for 3,5ghz yesterday to get a range of voltages from 500x7(3,5ghz) to 450x8(3,6ghz) but an error after 2h.
So far, 450x8 is the only setting stable for me.


450x8 ran 10hours OCCT (slider in the middle) over night without any errors, and yesterday I also tested slider at cpu and at ram for each 30minutes without an error and Memtest, too. I think that must be stable, and here it is, with 400strap :)

BIOS 903
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
-Ratio CMOS Setting : Auto
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 5
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 15
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Enabled
-Boost Level 0

CPU Voltage : 1.33700 1.312VCPU-z
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.25 1.26V Everest
DRAM Voltage : 2.16 2.19-2.21V Everest
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20 1.22V Everest
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050 1.06V Everest
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Very important for me was, to find the only working TransactionBooster setting for my ram. 1200Mhz in 400strap is only running with this TB and AIClock settings above, anything else won`t even boot.
And for 1200Mhz in 333strap, I need to change TB to Disabled lvl1, but there I can run Moderate instead of Light with AI.

3. What temp is 80-90&#176;? I think you put to much voltages for your OC. My settings above with 1,29VNB and 1,38VFSB doesn`t boot, but 1,25VNB and 1,20VFSB are stable!

And take a look at the first post and scroll down a bit. There you can find links to different OC-settings from users here for dual- and quad-core.

[youraa]

2. I just can give you my settings and you try them, but every system runs different. I tried OCCT for 3,5ghz yesterday to get a range of voltages from 500x7(3,5ghz) to 450x8(3,6ghz) but an error after 2h.
So far, 450x8 is the only setting stable for me.



Very important for me was, to find the only working TransactionBooster setting for my ram. 1200Mhz in 400strap is only running with this TB and AIClock settings above, anything else won`t even boot.
And for 1200Mhz in 333strap, I need to change TB to Disabled lvl1, but there I can run Moderate instead of Light with AI.

3. What temp is 80-90°? I think you put to much voltages for your OC. My settings above with 1,29VNB and 1,38VFSB doesn`t boot, but 1,25VNB and 1,20VFSB are stable!

And take a look at the first post and scroll down a bit. There you can find links to different OC-settings from users here for dual- and quad-core.

how is this possible that you reached 8x450 with such a low NB V, with my quad I need at least 1.61V :(

[eSp!s0]

Dualcore and luck. With my SE before(RIP), I had to set NB to 1,29V and VFSB to 1,38 for 3,5ghz and 3,6ghz.

[bummerboy]

Hi Freund, thanks for your info. Danke shon :)


I read your post, but because of my bad english, i am german, i couldn`t get it right, sorry.
1. The temperature is read out too low. This bug comes with/from Bios 0907, the cpu shows about 10&#176; less than real/with other bios. But the cpu cores are read out right and you have to look after them.
I did know that before I got my new non-SE and I just flashed to 0903 and stayed with to get more realistic cpu temperature. I you didn`t have problems with 0903 and it`s possible, you could change back to 0903, there are no differences for me to 0907 in OC, 0903 is actually a very little bit faster in everest for me with same settings.

Hmm, maybe i should check that out, i went from 602 to 907 back to 602 and now back to 907. skipped everything in between because i figured there's gotta be something wrong for asus to release so many revisions so quickly. Every bios flash is like a heartattack waiting to happen.


Very important for me was, to find the only working TransactionBooster setting for my ram. 1200Mhz in 400strap is only running with this TB and AIClock settings above, anything else won`t even boot.
And for 1200Mhz in 333strap, I need to change TB to Disabled lvl1, but there I can run Moderate instead of Light with AI.

3. What temp is 80-90&#176;? I think you put to much voltages for your OC. My settings above with 1,29VNB and 1,38VFSB doesn`t boot, but 1,25VNB and 1,20VFSB are stable!

I have also learned that for 333NBS, you most likely have to disable transaction booster to prevent DETDRAM error, and similarly for 400NBS you enable it. Just a basic rule of thumb after reading many many articles/posts on this MB.

And your board doesnt seem to overvolt as much. My bios setting for VDIMM is 2.08V and both bios/everest shows 2.21V actual.
Also, I have 4 sticks of ram, they needed more power than 2 sticks. If my VNB goes lower than 1.6x, memtest will show some errors all over.

I am not so sure about VFSB, but I came to this value 1.49 based on the various posts i read.

80-90 is in Celcius, for the cpucore, at MAX load, 100&#37;. I know it is too high, but idle temp seems normal, 40C-45C. My room temp is already 25C. It goes up way too much when loaded, which is why i suspect the paste might not be good anymore after a few fan/cpu reseat.

[zsero]

I searched google, but couldn't find what I needed: do you know any utility which can set RTC Alarm clock values from windows? There are many alarm clocks but they only support S1 and S3 states, not power off, like RTC does. Do you know any solution?

[*TLC*]

thx bummerboy, with your findings, i'm stable now on the Maximus formula..

http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/thumbnails/q10749v35_t.gif (http://www.imgbox.de/?img=q10749v35.png)

[bummerboy]

thx bummerboy, with your findings, i'm stable now on the Maximus formula..

http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/thumbnails/q10749v35_t.gif (http://www.imgbox.de/?img=q10749v35.png)

glad to help, how i wish i get temps like yours! are you on watercool? please publish your settings, and setup config, always a good guide for ppl with similar gear. cheers.

[*TLC*]

glad to help, how i wish i get temps like yours! are you on watercool? please publish your settings, and setup config, always a good guide for ppl with similar gear. cheers.

Yes all watercooled, i will post my Bios Settings Later.....

TLC

[Dostoyevsky77]

Hi, everyone. First post at XS!

Great overclocking guide. I got my board in December to replace a P5N32-E that I took to hell and back, but wanted to upgrade to something Yorkfield-friendly. Check out my sigged picture gallery (if OCN's server is behaving).

Some questions for anyone!

1) Is 0907 considered the best OC BIOS?
2) I can't get Transaction Booster to POST with my 2x2 G.Skills or my 4x1 Ballistix. Is this normal?
3) What's the word with Yorkfields on this board? Are we going to see some 500FSB action, or what?

Thanks in advance!

[FZ1]

Hi, everyone. First post at XS!

Great overclocking guide. I got my board in December to replace a P5N32-E that I took to hell and back, but wanted to upgrade to something Yorkfield-friendly. Check out my sigged picture gallery (if OCN's server is behaving).

Some questions for anyone!

1) Is 0907 considered the best OC BIOS?
2) I can't get Transaction Booster to POST with my 2x2 G.Skills or my 4x1 Ballistix. Is this normal?
3) What's the word with Yorkfields on this board? Are we going to see some 500FSB action, or what?

Thanks in advance!

You'll probably have to play with the transaction booster disabled and enabled...mine runs best on disabled/1
I am running a yorkie but @ 10 * 400. I have had it to 500 stable but choose to run @ 400 so I can keep the NB volts lower and cooler.

[eSp!s0]

Hi Freund, thanks for your info. Danke shon :)



Hmm, maybe i should check that out, i went from 602 to 907 back to 602 and now back to 907. skipped everything in between because i figured there's gotta be something wrong for asus to release so many revisions so quickly. Every bios flash is like a heartattack waiting to happen.



I have also learned that for 333NBS, you most likely have to disable transaction booster to prevent DETDRAM error, and similarly for 400NBS you enable it. Just a basic rule of thumb after reading many many articles/posts on this MB.

And your board doesnt seem to overvolt as much. My bios setting for VDIMM is 2.08V and both bios/everest shows 2.21V actual.
Also, I have 4 sticks of ram, they needed more power than 2 sticks. If my VNB goes lower than 1.6x, memtest will show some errors all over.

I am not so sure about VFSB, but I came to this value 1.49 based on the various posts i read.

80-90 is in Celcius, for the cpucore, at MAX load, 100%. I know it is too high, but idle temp seems normal, 40C-45C. My room temp is already 25C. It goes up way too much when loaded, which is why i suspect the paste might not be good anymore after a few fan/cpu reseat.

ok, for 4sticks of ram you need higher VNB, and when you tested that, I believe you, but I only saw that high VNB from quad-users. Are the coretemps better?
Can you post idle/load temps from cpu and cores, perhaps from everything you can read out!?

[Dostoyevsky77]

You'll probably have to play with the transaction booster disabled and enabled...mine runs best on disabled/1
I am running a yorkie but @ 10 * 400. I have had it to 500 stable but choose to run @ 400 so I can keep the NB volts lower and cooler.

Okay; I'll try disabled/1, but doesn't that mean it's RELAXED by 1? I can POST disabled/0, so isn't that better?

That's promising about your Yorkie. I'm pre-ordered on a Q9450 that I hope to take to 8x470. I was reading a thread where a Q9450 topped-out at 450FSB on X38... hopefully that was just an old BIOS.

Speaking of BIOS, any reason you're still using 0903?

[JohnMike]

Very important for me was, to find the only working TransactionBooster setting for my ram. 1200Mhz in 400strap is only running with this TB and AIClock settings above, anything else won`t even boot.
And for 1200Mhz in 333strap, I need to change TB to Disabled lvl1, but there I can run Moderate instead of Light with AI.

The best settings running 1200/400 FSB Mhz on this board are:

FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Disabled
-Boost Level 0

If you use Strap 333 then you can change Ai Clock Twister: Strong

The best FSB spots on this board, 400 FSB/Strap 266 and 450 FSB/Strap 333