The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[kup]

Ahh. I getcha. The exact model number is F2-8500CL5D-4GBPI.

[InfinityNX]

Hi, I'm insanely new at overclocking with the Maximus Formula. I was wondering if anybody has the same hardware as I do, since I really want to get a 4ghz stable on my proc.

Here's my specs:

Intel Q9550 C1 stepping
Asus Maximus Formula
Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2x1GB ddr2 800mhz

CPU and NB is watercooled.
SB is passively cooled.

If you need any other info, please don't hesitate to ask, I really need help. I don't get how the settings on the Extreme Tweaker work :| thanks guys!

help please :)

[Grnfinger]

help please :)

What have you tried so far?

[Zucker2k]

I use Memetest Pro I like it and it seems to be acurate.
Havent tried my G.Skills at 1132MHz with the revised relax timings yet, going to today.

Try these settings for your G.Skill @ 1132; you may have to give it 2.14v - 2.20v.

Primary: 5-5-5-15-4-52-8-4

Secondary: 8-3-5-4-6-4-6

Tertiary: 16-6-1-6-6

There's no noticeable impact on performance

* What revised relaxed timings?

You can further enhance overclock by this:

5-5-5-15-5-55-10-5

8-3-5-4-6-4-6

18-7-1-6-6

[Zucker2k]

Final 4.0GHz 24/7

Seems my kit of G.Skills cant handle 1132MHz so have to settle on the Mushkins for now till I can afford a kit of G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/10loop_40_stable_1130.jpg
Those everest read and copy numbers look very low, what PL? Running PL7 here.

[Grnfinger]

Try these settings for your G.Skill @ 1132; you may have to give it 2.14v - 2.20v.

Primary: 5-5-5-15-4-52-8-4

Secondary: 8-3-5-4-6-4-6

Tertiary: 16-6-1-6-6

There's no noticeable impact on performance

* What revised relaxed timings?

You can further enhance overclock by this:

5-5-5-15-5-55-10-5

8-3-5-4-6-4-6

18-7-1-6-6

My current stable ram settings

FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1132
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 350ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 350ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 65
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 10
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 16
Read to PRE Delay : 6
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

I will try your suggestions, and thanks:up:

[JCGhz]

GrnFinger what are your bios setting for your e8600 on your x38, im stuck at 4.4, on my maximus formula(does 500 FSB+)youve been a great help in this thread so far.

[Grnfinger]

Try these settings for your G.Skill @ 1132; you may have to give it 2.14v - 2.20v.

Primary: 5-5-5-15-4-52-8-4

Secondary: 8-3-5-4-6-4-6

Tertiary: 16-6-1-6-6

There's no noticeable impact on performance

* What revised relaxed timings?

You can further enhance overclock by this:

5-5-5-15-5-55-10-5

8-3-5-4-6-4-6

18-7-1-6-6

Sadly they did not work, still running Mushkin.


GrnFinger what are your bios setting for your e8600 on your x38, im stuck at 4.4, on my maximus formula(does 500 FSB+)youve been a great help in this thread so far.

Post your current 4.4 setup

[JCGhz]

Post your current 4.4 setup


My Bios setup or just system?

Here's my System
Maximus Formula-1207 Bios-
E8600 820A324-Lapped 4.4Ghz 1.4v Under Load 1.425 in bios
My Load temps after 12 Hours Prime-61c
I could only do 4330 before lapping. I can post 4.5 and even game w 1.4v but no Prime or Othos stable.
TRUE 120 Dual 120's Push Pull-Lapped
2x2GB GSkill PC28000

[JCGhz]

the rampage bios wouldnt let me reach 500fsb but i had better superpi with it. So im back to stock.

[Grnfinger]

My Bios setup or just system?

Here's my System
Maximus Formula-1207 Bios-
E8600 820A324-Lapped 4.4Ghz 1.4v Under Load 1.425 in bios
My Load temps after 12 Hours Prime-61c
I could only do 4330 before lapping. I can post 4.5 and even game w 1.4v but no Prime or Othos stable.
TRUE 120 Dual 120's Push Pull-Lapped
2x2GB GSkill PC28000

bios setup please

[RCG_Bex]

Wheee - running 4.2Ghz the now - got 4.3GHz booting and stable but its a tad high for my liking... tried 4.4GHz again for lolz but not stable enough for screenshots ro anything :(

~Bex

[InfinityNX]

Grnfinger

This was my setup for my 3.6 overclock (which was the max I could get, still unstable)



CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [8.5]
FSB Frequency [424]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [Auto]
PCIE Frequency [110]
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [848MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time [12]
RAS# To Ras# Delay [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [42]
Write Recovery Time [6]
Read To Precharge Time [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [8]
Write To Read Delay(S) [3]
Write To Read Delay(D) [5]
Read To Read Delay(S) [4]
Read To Read Delay(D) [6]
Write To Write Delay(S) [4]
Write To Write Delay(D) [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Strong]
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage [1.38]
CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]
North Bridge Voltage [1.61v]
DRAM Voltage [2.20v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.54v]
South Bridge Voltage [Auto]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage [Auto]

[Talonman]

Just use my template above and change teh multi to 8.
run 8x450 or 425 and your pretty much safe to boot/install.

Will do.. Thanks for the reply.

I do favor using a 400 FSB Strap to the North Bridge, but is the multi Ratio CMOS Setting, or Common Performance Level?

Not sure wich one to make 8. :)

[Grnfinger]

Will do.. Thanks for the reply.

I do favor using a 400 FSB Strap to the North Bridge, but is the multi Ratio CMOS Setting, or Common Performance Level?

Not sure wich one to make 8. :)

ratio cmos setting

[Talonman]

Thanks..

Going into 308 with my Q6600 and these settings:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : whatever your cpu needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.35
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.65X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger

This was my setup for my 3.6 overclock (which was the max I could get, still unstable)

Use Prime small fft's to test cpu only first.
Your ram unlees its the older BT's will not be compatable with this board and you will experience alot of difficulties using it.

So I will concentrate on cpu only for now.

CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8.5
FSB Frequency 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge 333
PCIE Frequency 100
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency 901
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time 15
RAS# To Ras# Delay [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time 55
Write Recovery Time [6]
Read To Precharge Time [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [8]
Write To Read Delay(S) [3]
Write To Read Delay(D) [5]
Read To Read Delay(S) [4]
Read To Read Delay(D) [6]
Write To Write Delay(S) [4]
Write To Write Delay(D) [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister moderate
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage 1.40 ( start here and adjustments can be made later)
CPU PLL Voltage 1.50
North Bridge Voltage 1.51
DRAM Voltage [2.20v]
FSB Termination Voltage 1.40
South Bridge Voltage 1.050
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.65x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage 1.50

[InfinityNX]

@Grnfinger

I think they're the old BT's (they're double-sided)

[InfinityNX]

@Grnfinger

Tried the BIOS setup you gave, but it didn't boot. I increased the CPU voltage from 1.4 to 1.45 then 1.50, but still, same problem. I think the problem was with the RAM, since the BT lights didn't even light up for all boot-tests. Any other advice you can give?

Thanks for your help btw.

[Factotum]

What do you think about it:
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5606/vistax64vd6.th.gif (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vistax64vd6.gif)
If Vcore>1.4xxx - i get this after some time runing prime.
if reboot after that - i get Det-Ram. Time losses depends from the Vcore
prime don't write error, continuing indefinitely to handle the same stage
:shakes:

[les_paulde]

My current stable ram settings

FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1132
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 350ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 350ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 65
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 10
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 16
Read to PRE Delay : 6
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Grnfinger, you da man! :clap: With your settings I can finally push my G.Skills above their 1066 limit, am currently running them at 546Mhz. :D Thanks for your help!

As this is fully memtest86 stable, I'm going to try and push them some more and tighten up the timings. I will post my final results once I'm done, but I was just wondering what voltage people here have put through their G.Skills without breaking them? Here (http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showthread.php?p=3329297) I've seen 2.2V being mentioned but it seems a bit high for these sticks no? Currently I'm at 2.11 real and as I have a fan running over them, I am willing to go up a bit more...

[WaterFlex]

les_paulde
Use MemTest 3.7. It is much more harder than MemTest86+.

[les_paulde]

Thanks for the tip waterflex! this is the windows based version where you have to open a couple of instances in order to test the full 4Gb right? If so then i should be all good as I've been using a combination of the two: first memtest to get an initial feel for the stability of the overclock without risking to corrupt any windows data, and then the windows-based memtest in combination with prime blend to fully confirm stability.

Another benefit i guess is that you can fine-tune your settings while staying in windows using memset, to then quickly check it without having to reboot. I reckon this can really speed the whole process of overclocking up alot. :up:

[Durkadurka]

I've ran my setup for quite some time now, and it has been rock stable.

Now, I decided to get another 2x2GB of Mushkin Xtreme Performance RAM for 8GB total.

However, I can't seem to get it stable at all.
I've tried upping NB volts, DDR volts, FSB termination volts but doesnt seem to work.

Currently running BIOS 1004.

In theory, what values should you bump when going from 2x2GB to 4x2GB filling all slots?
I've also tried different setups for RAM settings.

Does anyone have a setup with a QX9650 that works with 8GB of RAM at 4 GHz ?
If so I would like to see your Extreme Tweaker settings to get an idea.

Would changing the BIOS to ie 1201 work better with a 8GB setup?

[kup]

Rampage Formula arrived. Q6600 @ 480MHz FSB Prime Blend/Linpack stable with 1.44v vNB (random voltage picked to just start me off, will lower it soon), 1.6v vPLL, 1.25v vFSBT, 2.096v vDimm. PL7 1:1 atm. This board is nice. :D

[kup]

490MHz Prime Blending right now @ same voltages as above!!! :D

[les_paulde]

Man, I'm not getting this at the moment. :shrug:

What's going on is that I've been trying to run my G.Skills above their rated speed, and have been successful thanks to Grnfinger, according to both memtest86 and memtest 3.7 for windows. But what happens sometimes, is that while in windows (regardless if i'm idle or not), the screen will go black to then return to Vista (business x64) with the message that ATIKMDIAG.SYS has crashed and was recovered. Sometimes I'm not so lucky and the computer just reboots after a BSOD. My graphics cards are not overclocked atm, and I've really been able to single this out to the speed at which my ram is running, as this also happens when my cpu and motherboard are running at close to stock (270 fsb instead of 266). Anything above 533mhz and these problems arise but it doesnt make any sense to me that there would be a problem with the memory if Prime Blend and memtest 3.7 show no errors over a 10hr testing period. :confused: :shakes:

Anybody here experienced something similar and cares to shed some light on this? Thanks!

[Grnfinger]

Rampage Formula arrived. Q6600 @ 480MHz FSB Prime Blend/Linpack stable with 1.44v vNB (random voltage picked to just start me off, will lower it soon), 1.6v vPLL, 1.25v vFSBT, 2.096v vDimm. PL7 1:1 atm. This board is nice. :D

Very nice
I'm still waiting for a replacement Rampage.
The shop had to order one, didnt think is was going to be this long.


Man, I'm not getting this at the moment. :shrug:

What's going on is that I've been trying to run my G.Skills above their rated speed, and have been successful thanks to Grnfinger, according to both memtest86 and memtest 3.7 for windows. But what happens sometimes, is that while in windows (regardless if i'm idle or not), the screen will go black to then return to Vista (business x64) with the message that ATIKMDIAG.SYS has crashed and was recovered. Sometimes I'm not so lucky and the computer just reboots after a BSOD. My graphics cards are not overclocked atm, and I've really been able to single this out to the speed at which my ram is running, as this also happens when my cpu and motherboard are running at close to stock (270 fsb instead of 266). Anything above 533mhz and these problems arise but it doesnt make any sense to me that there would be a problem with the memory if Prime Blend and memtest 3.7 show no errors over a 10hr testing period. :confused: :shakes:

Anybody here experienced something similar and cares to shed some light on this? Thanks!

I have a couple of times running high FSB, couple drops of NB volts and all was fine.
As for your ram the GSkills will handle 2.2 volts actual so set 2.12 in bios and it will help squeeze a few more MHz out of them

[Grnfinger]

Double post alert but its required :D

Was moaning on the weekend about my 20" inch screen and the one dead pixel that was anoying the hell out of me.
So Sunday my wife took off to the mall for a few hours and left me home alone with the kids :shocked:
When she returned I was ready to hang myself in the basement but after seeing what she bought me ......

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0103.jpg


Its only a cheapo RCA 32" but DAMN its fun to game on :up:

[Zucker2k]

^^^^ Very nice; lucky guy. :)

RF 0501. Solves Adaptec Raid issue, supposedly is a bit faster; comes with usual disclaimer: RF 0501 (http://rs579.rapidshare.com/files/151756578/RAMPAGE-ASUS-Formula-0501.rar)

[kup]

How is it a bit faster? Bandwidth?

I'm up to 495MHz FSB Prime Blend stable! :D All the same except 1.51v vNB now. :D

[zlojack]

I'll have to decide soon whether to keep the Rampage Extreme or the Formula...

The Extreme is such an awesome board, but the RAM compatibility is horrible so far.

[Zucker2k]

How is it a bit faster? Bandwidth?

I'm up to 495MHz FSB Prime Blend stable! :D All the same except 1.51v vNB now. :D
Haven't tested yet, so I can't say for sure. I'm a little tied down right now. I see you're having lots of fun, ain't ya? :p:


I'll have to decide soon whether to keep the Rampage Extreme or the Formula...

The Extreme is such an awesome board, but the RAM compatibility is horrible so far.I'm surprised you're having problems with the extreme; per my results, and now Kup, I can say you'll probably see a significant change in performance/stability with RF.

[zlojack]

Haven't tested yet, so I can't say for sure. I'm a little tied down right now. I see you're having lots of fun, ain't ya? :p:

I'm surprised you're having problems with the extreme; per my results, and now Kup, I can say you'll probably see a significant change in performance/stability with RF.
The Extreme is awesome.

500 FSB without batting an eye.

My DDR3 is running at 1200 MHz because it won't go higher.

I think I'll probably wait it out. Even at that speed, I'm getting better bandwidth than my DDR2 got at it's max, so that's something.

I just hope they don't abandon the bios development now that the Rampage II Extreme X58 is around the corner.

There's just something to be said for the nice stability of the relatively mature bios of the Formula.

But I'd rather move forward than back :D

[kup]

Haven't tested yet, so I can't say for sure. I'm a little tied down right now. I see you're having lots of fun, ain't ya? :p:

I'm surprised you're having problems with the extreme; per my results, and now Kup, I can say you'll probably see a significant change in performance/stability with RF.

The first thing I noticed with the Rampage over the Maximus was that the Rampage doesn't overvolt the ram so much! :D And yes, the actual Rampage PCB (over the Maximus PCB with or without the Rampage bios) is much much more stable!!! :cool: :D :up: This system is absolutely rock solid, and it feels much more stable than my old Maximus or even my absolutely rock solid P5K-E! :cool:

Testing @ 500MHz FSB now, video and Prime Blend! :cool:

[scottath]

@ kup:

What voltage are you useing for each interval on the cpu?
1.6v vPLL, 1.25v vFSBT, 2.096v vDimm. PL7 1:1 atm
^^ These constant throughout so far? ^^ (except the NB)?

EDIT: Also - what cooling you using? Water? - i have a Lapped TRUE with 2 STUPIDLY powerful fans on it (38*120mm 130cfm)

[kup]

@ kup:

What voltage are you useing for each interval on the cpu?
1.6v vPLL, 1.25v vFSBT, 2.096v vDimm. PL7 1:1 atm
^^ These constant throughout so far? ^^ (except the NB)?

EDIT: Also - what cooling you using? Water? - i have a Lapped TRUE with 2 STUPIDLY powerful fans on it (38*120mm 130cfm)

Those voltages are; 1.51v vNB, 1.616v vPLL, 1.25v vFSBT, 2.096v vDimm. vCore is @ 1.275v for 3GHz right now for testing. I could push to 3.825GHz with 1.5v on the P5K-E so I'm curious to see how the Rampage can push the Q6600...

Cooling is all on air. TRUE on Q6600, stock Rampage cooling (except MX2 on northbridge and southbridge.

[scottath]

Currently i'm running the P5E with the Rampage bios, AS5 on NB/SB/Mofets and 3 fans strapped to the nb heatsink
I normally run 3.6ghz at just under 1.50v
I can run 3dmark06 at 3.96ghz but that is with stupid voltages (1.7v) so one of the other voltages/tweaks must be holdign it back.
There is a guy on OCAU who has a q6600 from the same batch as mine that with phase change got to around 4.3ghz from memory so i'm hoping for this ship of mine to go high.....

I'll be watching your progress closely - will help us alot i think.
I came from a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 and there are so many options even in the stock P5E bios that i have no clue about - the rampage bios is even more filled with unknowns

[InfinityNX]

Use Prime small fft's to test cpu only first.
Your ram unlees its the older BT's will not be compatable with this board and you will experience alot of difficulties using it.

So I will concentrate on cpu only for now.

CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8.5
FSB Frequency 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge 333
PCIE Frequency 100
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency 901
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time 15
RAS# To Ras# Delay [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time 55
Write Recovery Time [6]
Read To Precharge Time [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [8]
Write To Read Delay(S) [3]
Write To Read Delay(D) [5]
Read To Read Delay(S) [4]
Read To Read Delay(D) [6]
Write To Write Delay(S) [4]
Write To Write Delay(D) [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister moderate
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage 1.40 ( start here and adjustments can be made later)
CPU PLL Voltage 1.50
North Bridge Voltage 1.51
DRAM Voltage [2.20v]
FSB Termination Voltage 1.40
South Bridge Voltage 1.050
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.65x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage 1.50


@Grnfinger

Tried the BIOS setup you gave, but it didn't boot. I increased the CPU voltage from 1.4 to 1.45 then 1.50, but still, same problem. I think the problem was with the RAM, since the BT lights didn't even light up for all boot-tests. Any other advice you can give?

Thanks for your help btw.

bump :)

[kup]

Currently i'm running the P5E with the Rampage bios, AS5 on NB/SB/Mofets and 3 fans strapped to the nb heatsink
I normally run 3.6ghz at just under 1.50v
I can run 3dmark06 at 3.96ghz but that is with stupid voltages (1.7v) so one of the other voltages/tweaks must be holdign it back.
There is a guy on OCAU who has a q6600 from the same batch as mine that with phase change got to around 4.3ghz from memory so i'm hoping for this ship of mine to go high.....

I'll be watching your progress closely - will help us alot i think.
I came from a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 and there are so many options even in the stock P5E bios that i have no clue about - the rampage bios is even more filled with unknowns

Well I've run my old Maximus at up to 480MHz FSB with silly voltages but it was never 24/7 stable. This Rampage is rock solid @ 500MHz FSB with lower voltages than my Maximus needed for 450MHz FSB! :D

[kup]

OK, so 500MHz FSB can Prime Blend for about an hour (give or take 5mins) before one and only one thread gives up. What could be the cause of this? I've tried more vNB and advancing the Skew to 350 but still no resolution?

[Grnfinger]

OK, so 500MHz FSB can Prime Blend for about an hour (give or take 5mins) before one and only one thread gives up. What could be the cause of this? I've tried more vNB and advancing the Skew to 350 but still no resolution?

try a notch or 2 of PLL

[kup]

This will sound terribly n00b of me, but what would you recommend for vPLL? I'm currently running @ 1.616v vPLL, 1.328v vFSBT and 1.51v vNB.

[Utnorris]

So I just flashed my MF to RF bios 410. My temp sensor in PC Probe is way off, reading 21c when Core Temp is at 47-47-35-35c, ambient is at 25c. Should this be expected or should I go to 308? Specs are in sig except I have a Maximus Formula instead of a Blitz now. Core Temp seems to be correct based on previous readings by the way.

Thanks,

Utnorris

[kup]

Ignore the CPU readings and stick with CoreTemp. Quite a few Asus bios' have the same issue. I always watching my Quad idle at 5c below ambient. :D

[Grnfinger]

This will sound terribly n00b of me, but what would you recommend for vPLL? I'm currently running @ 1.616v vPLL, 1.328v vFSBT and 1.51v vNB.

hmm your pll seems high enough already. but 1.65 would be my max
for 500FSB your NB volts could go up a bit. maybe 1.53-1.55
Zucker2K would have better hands on than me if anyone can get a high FSB stable on the rampage it would be him.

[kup]

Cheers dude. This x48 Northbridge is much hotter than the x38. If I can keep it below 42c (120mm fan across board does it fine) it'll stay stable at 500MHz. It'll crash once it breaks 42c without the fan though...

I think I'm going to push for more this afternoon because I just realised I was running the Transaction Booster on STRONGER @ 500MHz...oops!

[InfinityNX]

Help :|


Use Prime small fft's to test cpu only first.
Your ram unlees its the older BT's will not be compatable with this board and you will experience alot of difficulties using it.

So I will concentrate on cpu only for now.

CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8.5
FSB Frequency 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge 333
PCIE Frequency 100
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency 901
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time 15
RAS# To Ras# Delay [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time 55
Write Recovery Time [6]
Read To Precharge Time [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [8]
Write To Read Delay(S) [3]
Write To Read Delay(D) [5]
Read To Read Delay(S) [4]
Read To Read Delay(D) [6]
Write To Write Delay(S) [4]
Write To Write Delay(D) [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister moderate
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage 1.40 ( start here and adjustments can be made later)
CPU PLL Voltage 1.50
North Bridge Voltage 1.51
DRAM Voltage [2.20v]
FSB Termination Voltage 1.40
South Bridge Voltage 1.050
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.65x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage 1.50


@Grnfinger

Tried the BIOS setup you gave, but it didn't boot. I increased the CPU voltage from 1.4 to 1.45 then 1.50, but still, same problem. I think the problem was with the RAM, since the BT lights didn't even light up for all boot-tests. Any other advice you can give?

Thanks for your help btw.

[InfinityNX]

BTW, the rams i'm using are the old BT's (dual sided)

[Gunlance]

Alright guys....I'm finally callin in for some help.

I've had my MF flashed to RF 308 for a while and I have some completely rock solid stable settings right now. I have a q6600(vid 1.2125 L737B). my current settings are:
CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge 400
PCIE Frequency 100
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency 1066
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time 15
RAS# To Ras# Delay [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time 55
Write Recovery Time [6]
Read To Precharge Time [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [8]
Write To Read Delay(S) [3]
Write To Read Delay(D) [5]
Read To Read Delay(S) [4]
Read To Read Delay(D) [6]
Write To Write Delay(S) [4]
Write To Write Delay(D) [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Enabled]
Ai Clock Twister moderate
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage 1.26875
CPU PLL Voltage 1.50
North Bridge Voltage 1.20
DRAM Voltage [1.96v]
FSB Termination Voltage - Lowest setting I forget what it is.
South Bridge Voltage 1.050
Loadline Calibration [Disabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.62x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.49x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage 1.50

I can not for the life of my just get to 3.6 (9*400). UI've uppe vcore to 1.4 with laod line, I've went past 1.4v. I've upped PLL and FSBT. Before I say it's the chip....I'm throwing myself on all of your wonderful OC'ing ability.

HELP ME GET TO 3.6 or beyond....Thanks:)

[zlojack]

How does it do at 1.45v?

That's what my Q6600 needed for 3.6GHz

[kup]

510MHz Prime Blend stable... :D When I reach the maximum, I'll post screenies! Remember, this is on a Q6600...

[Utnorris]

So, I now have my MF up and running with RF Bios 410. I haven't tweaked it yet, but so far I am stable at 4.16Ghz, 416x10, which I could not do on my Blitz, so very pleased so far. Now I just need to find someone's settings with a QX9650 so I can understand what does what as the bios settings are different than the Blitz. Hopefully I can push my chip to 4.5Ghz, but we will see.

[zlojack]

Nice stuff, Kup!

[Gunlance]

How does it do at 1.45v?

That's what my Q6600 needed for 3.6GHz

It does terrible. It's not stable and it hits temps of 80 degrees. Mind you this is with a CPU only loop with a PA120.3 3 yate lows(or high's I tried both) and a DDC with petras top.

[kup]

Nice stuff, Kup!

Cheers, dude! :cool: I really really wanna run 533MHz FSB 1:1 so I can run my ram in sync but I don't think it's gunna happen without water on the Northbridge... :(

[Utnorris]

It does terrible. It's not stable and it hits temps of 80 degrees. Mind you this is with a CPU only loop with a PA120.3 3 yate lows(or high's I tried both) and a DDC with petras top.

You may want to try reseating that block, I never hit that high on my Q6600 when I had it and that was at 1.56v vcore. I was using a MCR220, MCP355 with Petra top and D-Tek Fuzion at the time. Highest I hit was 62c with ambients at 28c.

[zlojack]

It does terrible. It's not stable and it hits temps of 80 degrees. Mind you this is with a CPU only loop with a PA120.3 3 yate lows(or high's I tried both) and a DDC with petras top.
That's strange. I never hit those temps on air with my TRUE.

That's a serious LC loop there.

How's the mounting? Is your Fuzion nozzled? How are the innards on the block?




Cheers, dude! :cool: I really really wanna run 533MHz FSB 1:1 so I can run my ram in sync but I don't think it's gunna happen without water on the Northbridge... :(

Well...there's only one fix for that problem. :D

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/sidewindercomputers_2018_25405039

[Grnfinger]

BTW, the rams i'm using are the old BT's (dual sided)

try running same setup but change FSB to 420 for now and see if it boots.
I had a 425 FSB limit on X38 Maximus with my Q9550, so lets try to rule out the FSB limit first

[Gunlance]

I have nozzles just not in the block :). The chip has reacted like this ever since I got it. The block has been mounted so many times with so many different TIMs. I've been trying to read up on FSBT and vPLL and what not but I have no idea how those affect the quads at high values. Been trying to figure it out by trial and error and I haven't gotten any kind of pattern going.

[Utnorris]

Quick question, FSBT is VTT correct? Also, what is SB2?
Thanks

[zlojack]

I have nozzles just not in the block :). The chip has reacted like this ever since I got it. The block has been mounted so many times with so many different TIMs. I've been trying to read up on FSBT and vPLL and what not but I have no idea how those affect the quads at high values. Been trying to figure it out by trial and error and I haven't gotten any kind of pattern going.

They won't hurt it as much as the rumours say. Most of the scare has been around 45nm parts, though Benchzowner has been running several 45nm chips at ridiculously high PLL and VTT for over a month now with no noticeable effects.

I suggest putting in the quad nozzle on your Fuzion.

[kup]

Well...there's only one fix for that problem. :D

http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/sidewindercomputers_2018_25405039

It's in the pipeline...just found and bought an ancient Chieftec Dragon Full Tower to build my water cooling into. Should be fun! :D I want 2x 3x120mm Rads, a Peltier cooled Res' (which optional off switch) and copper piping around the edge of the case instead of tubing all over it...

It should look rather nice once it's finished! :up:

[Zucker2k]

Alright guys....I'm finally callin in for some help.

I've had my MF flashed to RF 308 for a while and I have some completely rock solid stable settings right now. I have a q6600(vid 1.2125 L737B). my current settings are:
CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge Auto
PCIE Frequency 100
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency ?/1080
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time 15
RAS# To Ras# Delay [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time 55
Write Recovery Time [6]
Read To Precharge Time [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [8]
Write To Read Delay(S) [3]
Write To Read Delay(D) [5]
Read To Read Delay(S) [4]
Read To Read Delay(D) [6]
Write To Write Delay(S) [4]
Write To Write Delay(D) [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister AUTO
Transaction Booster [Enabled] [Thought you were on RF 308?
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage 1.3250 (you can change later)
CPU PLL Voltage 1.50
North Bridge Voltage 1.45 (you can change later)
DRAM Voltage [2.06v] Looks like this setting was quite low
FSB Termination Voltage - 1.34.
South Bridge Voltage 1.050
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.67x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.49x]( :shakes: ) 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage 1.50

I can not for the life of my just get to 3.6 (9*400). UI've uppe vcore to 1.4 with laod line, I've went past 1.4v. I've upped PLL and FSBT. Before I say it's the chip....I'm throwing myself on all of your wonderful OC'ing ability.

HELP ME GET TO 3.6 or beyond....Thanks:) try bolded, goodluck


Cheers, dude! :cool: I really really wanna run 533MHz FSB 1:1 so I can run my ram in sync but I don't think it's gunna happen without water on the Northbridge... :(Keep pushing it; I did 510 on Maximus with Q6600, I'm sure RF can do more. Goodluck :up:

[Zucker2k]

They won't hurt it as much as the rumours say. Most of the scare has been around 45nm parts, though Benchzowner has been running several 45nm chips at ridiculously high PLL and VTT for over a month now with no noticeable effects.

I suggest putting in the quad nozzle on your Fuzion.:shakes:
The stock nozzle is actually better than the quad nozzle, according to many reviews on the net, and in my own experience. I have a quad nozzle sitting here, seeing no action.

[zlojack]

:shakes:
The stock nozzle is actually better than the quad nozzle, according to many reviews on the net, and in my own experience. I have a quad nozzle sitting here, seeing no action.

On the Fuzion V2 that is correct.

But on the V1, the quad nozzle is better.

[kup]

510MHz FSB Prime Blend stable @ 2.5Hours. Testing 515MHz FSB now. :D

[scottath]

What settings are you running for that kup?
Can i get a list of the settings like how Zucker2k did in post 7064

Thanks - keep going - looks like you have a nice board......and a better chip
What fan setup you got on your TRUE? and what prime temps were you getting at 4.5ghz?
Can i get a picture please.

[kup]

I'll have to do a bios layout tomorrow. I'm not running @ 4.5GHz on the Quad. It maxes out about 3.85GHz on air.

Basic bios layout for 515MHz FSB are 1.65v vNB, 1.6v vPLL, 1.5v vFSBT, Transaction Booster @ Stronger, PL10 (might be 9 atm... :D). Everything else is stock/auto right now.

On the TRUE I have 2x 120mm Sharkoon Silent Eagle 75cfm fans in a push/pull setup.

[19*12 gamer]

sorry for the noobie post, but i was wondering why the "FSB Strap to North Bridge-setting" does not let me adjust the Rated FSB speed.
The setting "DRAM Frequency: DDR2- XXX" is not letting me clock the mem slow enough, i have ddr2 6400 ocz, will max about 860Mhz...

This gives me the problem that i cannot oc my e8400 on my Maximus Formula anymore without getting faster RAM, is this correct?
(3.870Mhz, +-1780Mhz Rated FSB, 860Mhz mem, stable voltages all on auto, tested 4 hours orthos small FFT's)

Why is the Rated FSB getting so high?

[zlojack]

sorry for the noobie post, but i was wondering why the "FSB Strap to North Bridge-setting" does not let me adjust the Rated FSB speed.
The setting "DRAM Frequency: DDR2- XXX" is not letting me clock the mem slow enough, i have ddr2 6400 ocz, will max about 860Mhz...

This gives me the problem that i cannot oc my e8400 on my Maximus Formula anymore without getting faster RAM, is this correct?
(3.870Mhz, +-1780Mhz Rated FSB, 860Mhz mem, stable voltages all on auto, tested 4 hours orthos small FFT's)

Why is the Rated FSB getting so high?
The strap and the actual FSB are different.

The FSB determines your FSB and DDR rate, while the FSB Strap determines your divider.

You need to set the FSB manually to whatever value you like (I guess somewhere around 400 for 800MHz RAM). Then on the 333 or 400 strap, you can run the RAM at 1:1 to get 800MHz DDR2 and 1600 FSB

The lowest ratio offered is 1:1. You can't clock the RAM lower than that. So for your RAM, you might be able to get DDR2 900 and have your CPU run at 450 x 9 on the 333 or 400 strap on the1:1 divider.

[Zucker2k]

The strap and the actual FSB are different.

The FSB determines your FSB and DDR rate, while the FSB Strap determines your divider.

You need to set the FSB manually to whatever value you like (I guess somewhere around 400 for 800MHz RAM). Then on the 333 or 400 strap, you can run the RAM at 1:1 to get 800MHz DDR2 and 1600 FSB

The lowest ratio offered is 1:1. You can't clock the RAM lower than that. So for your RAM, you might be able to get DDR2 900 and have your CPU run at 450 x 9 on the 333 or 400 strap on the1:1 divider.

:yepp: Easiest way is to set Auto for strap and you'll have all available dividers/ram frequencies.

[19*12 gamer]

Thanks! This is clear, i just need 1066Mhz mem to oc to 4.5Ghz+.

But still, why is the Rated FSB so much more then 1333Mhz?
Do i have to divide the rated FSB from CPUZ in 2?

Most people have it at +-2200Mhz? I still dont understand that.

Hoping to hit 4+Ghz today :)

[Barr3l Rid3r]

Thanks! This is clear, i just need 1066Mhz mem to oc to 4.5Ghz+.

But still, why is the Rated FSB so much more then 1333Mhz?
Do i have to divide the rated FSB from CPUZ in 2?

Most people have it at +-2200Mhz? I still dont understand that.

Hoping to hit 4+Ghz today :)

for 2200Mhz Bus u got: 2200/4 = FSB (550Mhz)

so if u use FSB strap at 400Mhz and set the DDR at lowest option 1:1 u will got an 400 Mhz strap + manually increased 150Mhz = 550Mhz coupled w/ 1100Mhz DDR (FSB x 2) Double data Rate (DDR)

[zlojack]

It's all based off the bus speed.
Then the RAM works on a divider of that multiplied by 2 and the FSB is 4x that.

So

400 FSB
Ram ratio of 4:5 = 500 = DDR21000
400 x 4 = 1600 FSB

[Darkstormz]

My MF has 425FSB limit with my q9550 E0. Bought a Rampage Formula today to see what happends. Or should I have bought the Maximus II Formula?

[zlojack]

It's all based off the bus speed.
Then the RAM works on a divider of that multiplied by 2 and the FSB is 4x that.

So

400 FSB
Ram ratio of 4:5 = 500 = DDR21000
400 x 4 = 1600 FSB

[Darkstormz]

So far I´m impressed with my Rampage Formula experience.
Running 450x8.5 right now using Q9550 E0.
My Maximus flashed to Rampage could only prime at 425FSB.

[19*12 gamer]

Thanks everyone!

Got my Q827A E8400 cooled on Xigmatek S1384/ Maximus Formula stable on 4Ghz @ 1.240V around 42 Degrees stressed 14hrs (auto voltage)

Cant go higher because mem wont go over 920, will get new ram soon to hit 4.5+Ghz
(i dont like overvolting ram at all)

p.s Just cant compare my E8400 to my AMD X2 5000+@3.2, AMD is really far behind on performance and temps as it could not handle most games maxed with my 3870X2, but the E8400 can for example.

@Darkstormz; I thought q9550's only go to about 4Ghz or do you have water?

[Darkstormz]

Thanks everyone!

Got my Q827A E8400 cooled on Xigmatek S1384/ Maximus Formula stable on 4Ghz @ 1.240V around 42 Degrees stressed 14hrs (auto voltage)

Cant go higher because mem wont go over 920, will get new ram soon to hit 4.5+Ghz
(i dont like overvolting ram at all)

p.s Just cant compare my E8400 to my AMD X2 5000+@3.2, AMD is really far behind on performance and temps as it could not handle most games maxed with my 3870X2, but the E8400 can for example.

@Darkstormz; I thought q9550's only go to about 4Ghz or do you have water?

I´m not at 4GHz at the moment. But I´m pretty close. Running 460x8.5 right now aircooling. Temps 53-53-53-55 with TRUE120.

[Zucker2k]

I´m not at 4GHz at the moment. But I´m pretty close. Running 460x8.5 right now aircooling. Temps 53-53-53-55 with TRUE120.Nice :up: At those temps, you still have a lot of room to hit 4Ghz, 8.5x471. If you have ram that'll do 1132Mhz go that option; the Rampage Formula will allow you to run PL 7 at that frequency and you should be getting 10,000+ all across in Everest benchmark. Otherwise, 1:1 strap is not shabby either @ PL8; and you could run tighter timings and even stronger aiclock.

[Darkstormz]

4GHz done at pretty high vcore. Wanted to make sure the NB could handle the pressure :)
I´m going to lap the CPU tonight I think. I use a TRUE with PUSH-PULL.

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/2711/dszq9550rf4ghzls9.th.jpg (http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dszq9550rf4ghzls9.jpg)http://img379.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

[Commander_HK47]

Hi I'm new member here at Extreme Systems,

I am having trouble obtaining a stable over clock with my current bios configuration(Blend test will always fail 1 of x for a result of 90%).

I think it is the MHCI(I think that is what the memory controller on Intel boards are called...) as memory checks out after running mem test+ for 10 hours or so.

I think i may have some of the voltages too high as I'm still learning about newer generation Intel chips and there corresponding boards.




Maximus Formula Converted to a Rampage Formula
BIOS: 0410
Lapped Q6600(Go Stepping VID:1.270~) with a TRUE Extreme
4x1GB Transcend 1200MHz Axe Ram(all are DB9)
PSU Silverstone 850Watt Olympic(64Amp +12V)
(if you need/want more hardware information just ask)


Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400

DRAM Clock CMD Skew CH1 A1 : AUTO
DRAM Clock CMD Skew CH1 A2 : AUTO
DRAM Clock CLK Skew CH1 B1 : AUTO
DRAM Clock CLK Skew CH1 B2 : AUTO

FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto/266
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1203
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 44
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [5]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

Hardware Monitor:
CPU Voltage : 1.4375 (1.43)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56 (1.68)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.44 (1.56)
DRAM Voltage : 2.10 (2.20)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.53 (1.50)
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO (1.08)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO (1.55)

As always thank you for any help.

[Grnfinger]

Hi I'm new member here at Extreme Systems,

I am having trouble obtaining a stable over clock with my current bios configuration(Blend test will always fail 1 of x for a result of 90%).

I think it is the MHCI(I think that is what the memory controller on Intel boards are called...) as memory checks out after running mem test+ for 10 hours or so.

I think i may have some of the voltages too high as I'm still learning about newer generation Intel chips and there corresponding boards.







Welcome to the forums
Heres is what I would suggest


xtreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 4

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 9
Write to Read Delay (S) : 5
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : what ever your cpu needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[Commander_HK47]

So to confirm, you want me to change the following:

- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450

RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 4

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 9
Write to Read Delay (S) : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Common Performance Level [7]

CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

let me know if i missed any thing.

[Commander_HK47]

Welcome to the forums
Heres is what I would suggest


xtreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 4

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 9
Write to Read Delay (S) : 5
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : what ever your cpu needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Well i tried the settings you suggested, and i lose USB functionality when i run stability test or have any kind of real system load. I'm thinking the north bridge, or is it south bridge that handles USB? At any point the system BSOD and now it feels like im stepping backwards instead of moving forward:(

[19*12 gamer]

I have a problem getting to 4.2+Ghz wit my E8400. (maximus Formula latest bios, good air cooled)

I have DDR2 800Mz wich i can run on 1Ghz stable on 2.1V(2x1GB). The funny thing is, i can only run it at 1Ghz when i do not oc my E8400.
When i leave the RAM Voltage on auto i can oc my CPU to 4Ghz resulting in my RAM running 890Mhz and that is also stable. My E8400 needs 1.24/1.28V for this oc but i dont know how to manage the RAM. (settings/voltage)

Can anybody point me in the right direction?

[kup]

Found an interesting stability issue. I can prime all day and night... with Blend and pass 100%. But play a video and BAM, crash/lock. Now I'm prime Blending @ 520MHz FSB with a 720p Vid running via the CPU and an SD Vid playing via the CPU and it's catching problems FAR faster than before.

Zucker, do you think you could post up your 500MHz+ Maximus settings? If you could so it on an X38 I'd love to try the same settings on an X48 and see how they compare? Was it with a Q6600?

[Grnfinger]

Well i tried the settings you suggested, and i lose USB functionality when i run stability test or have any kind of real system load. I'm thinking the north bridge, or is it south bridge that handles USB? At any point the system BSOD and now it feels like im stepping backwards instead of moving forward:(

You will need to adjust voltages accordingly. Not every system is the same.
This isnt please overclock my rig for me thread you will actually have to do some work on your own.
4x1GB sticks will tax the NB harder than 2x2GBs so you may have to raise the vNB, also depending on what you have attached to the SB volts may have to be raised.
All the information is in this thread, ppl have worked hard for a year learning this board and its limits. If you take the time to search and read this thread all information, and answers to questions are in it.

[Zucker2k]

Found an interesting stability issue. I can prime all day and night... with Blend and pass 100%. But play a video and BAM, crash/lock. Now I'm prime Blending @ 520MHz FSB with a 720p Vid running via the CPU and an SD Vid playing via the CPU and it's catching problems FAR faster than before.

Zucker, do you think you could post up your 500MHz+ Maximus settings? If you could so it on an X38 I'd love to try the same settings on an X48 and see how they compare? Was it with a Q6600?Yes, I used a Q6600. Here are the settings used; you'll probably need less volts all around...

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 7
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000 (1:1)
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto (for 52, can't be set manually in bios)
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [9]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.320 (CPU-Z)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.65v
DRAM Voltage : 1.80v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050v
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto

Advanced CPU Configuration:
Everything Disabled

Thread here: 500FSB+ on Maximus Formula (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=187947)

Edit: With Vide problem, I'll bump pcie a bit, maybe SB too.

[Commander_HK47]

You will need to adjust voltages accordingly. Not every system is the same.
This isnt please overclock my rig for me thread you will actually have to do some work on your own.
4x1GB sticks will tax the NB harder than 2x2GBs so you may have to raise the vNB, also depending on what you have attached to the SB volts may have to be raised.
All the information is in this thread, ppl have worked hard for a year learning this board and its limits. If you take the time to search and read this thread all information, and answers to questions are in it.

Fair enough, I however went back to the old settings for memory and FBS/ratio as there was a fairly large drop in the processors L1, and L2 cache speed with there Read and write speeds dropping by about 10Gb of through put(60Gb down to 50Gb and 30Gb down to 20Gb respectively).

On the other hand, with the memory though. Read, write(being the biggest Improver), copy, and latency all had better scores. I'm still stumped by that one as you suggested relaxed timings on the memory compared to what i had to start with, leaving me to think that it would be slower:shrug: However i am still learning about what means what in the terms of timings and propper voltage selection with the newer inlet products.

[Grnfinger]

Fair enough, I however went back to the old settings for memory and FBS/ratio as there was a fairly large drop in the processors L1, and L2 cache speed with there Read and write speeds dropping by about 10Gb of through put(60Gb down to 50Gb and 30Gb down to 20Gb respectively).

On the other hand, with the memory though. Read, write(being the biggest Improver), copy, and latency all had better scores. I'm still stumped by that one as you suggested relaxed timings on the memory compared to what i had to start with, leaving me to think that it would be slower:shrug: However i am still learning about what means what in the terms of timings and propper voltage selection with the newer inlet products.

Every setup is different, I have never had success on the 266 strap so thats why I suggest 333, the higher FSB will help to compensate for the higher PL.
Some timings when relaxed will not hurt bandwidth much at all but will greatly improve stability.
Zucker2K, Kup, Zlojack are very experienced with the board and can offer other suggestions besides mine.
ZenEffect if you can find him is very well versed in ram tweaking and can offer a great deal of information.

[Commander_HK47]

Every setup is different, I have never had success on the 266 strap so thats why I suggest 333, the higher FSB will help to compensate for the higher PL.
Some timings when relaxed will not hurt bandwidth much at all but will greatly improve stability.
Zucker2K, Kup, Zlojack are very experienced with the board and can offer other suggestions besides mine.
ZenEffect if you can find him is very well versed in ram tweaking and can offer a great deal of information.

Well i've been focusing on the NB, and have come to find out that:
1) The NB heatsink wasn't screwed down(so it was lose).
2) After removing the NB and the SB cooler, to clean the epoxy resin like TIM off that people speak so lowly of here, I come to find out it wasn't even making contact wit the SB at all(SB didn't have even a smug of TIM on it):confused: and every so slightly(but not really)was making contact with the NB.

I'll be heading to a local hardware store in the morning to pickup some sanding/cleaning supplies fix that right up:rofl:

[Grnfinger]

Well i've been focusing on the NB, and have come to find out that:
1) The NB heatsink wasn't screwed down(so it was lose).
2) After removing the NB and the SB cooler, to clean the epoxy resin like TIM off that people speak so lowly of here, I come to find out it wasn't even making contact wit the SB at all(SB didn't have even a smug of TIM on it):confused: and every so slightly(but not really)was making contact with the NB.

I'll be heading to a local hardware store in the morning to pickup some sanding/cleaning supplies fix that right up:rofl:

There has been a few heated debates on what is a max NB temp.
Intel states some insane number like 90c:rofl:
In real world we have come to find 47-50c load would be the max to maintain stability.
reseating the blocks would be the right choice.
My new MIIF suffered from the same problem, there were reports of the NB hitting 100c right out of the box and killing the board.
Seems Asus QA department isnt up to par:shrug:

Keep us posted on your progress:up:

[19*12 gamer]

Just 1 more quick question on my FSB-wall around 460, i see lots of settings i cannot give meaning like:
Maximus formula in bios:There is loadline calibration, mem performance setting (0-7) in light and strong, well you know what im talking about.

Also PLL voltage and VTT are not clear to me, my question is:
Will changing them affect my max oc? Just checking before i buy new ram for 100 euro and end up having the same FSB-wall.

To oc to 4Ghz i do not need to adjust any setting, cpu-,mem,NB-voltage do not help, are there any other setting that affect oc-ability positively?

[Grnfinger]

Just 1 more quick question on my FSB-wall around 460, i see lots of settings i cannot give meaning like:
Maximus formula in bios:There is loadline calibration, mem performance setting (0-7) in light and strong, well you know what im talking about.

Also PLL voltage and VTT are not clear to me, my question is:
Will changing them affect my max oc? Just checking before i buy new ram for 100 euro and end up having the same FSB-wall.

To oc to 4Ghz i do not need to adjust any setting, cpu-,mem,NB-voltage do not help, are there any other setting that affect oc-ability positively?

Yes there is a direct relation to CPUPLL and FSBT they will affect stability greatly.
Increasing PLL can reduce vcore/ but will increase stability.
To low of a FSBT will result in a unstable chip.

to help elimate a FSB wall drop the multi down and try a higher FSB

[19*12 gamer]

Thanks for the info, i will try it right away. :)
(I have a FBS-wall around 460 because my ram wont oc stable when i oc my cpu, i can run it on 1066Mhz without oc-ing my cpu, so dropping the multi doesn't help with my current RAM)

If this doesn't help i will get new ram this week!

[Grnfinger]

Thanks for the info, i will try it right away. :)
(I have a FBS-wall around 460 because my ram wont oc stable when i oc my cpu, i can run it on 1066Mhz without oc-ing my cpu, so dropping the multi doesn't help with my current RAM)

If this doesn't help i will get new ram this week!

just run a different divider then, at 460 your options are limited but 920MHz running 4-4-4-12 would do rather well

[Commander_HK47]

LOL was testing some things out and thus far i got 450*9(4.05GHZ)to load into windows and validate via CPU-Z although it doesn't report my memory speed correctly...(should say pc9600 for 1200MHZ ram but no biggy)

here is a link to the cpuid database page:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/431720.png (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=431720)

Now for the Bad news it has taken cpu 1.58V to get in windows and i haven't even started to test it yet.

However i am wondering if there is a way to bring down the CPU volts need via PLL/FBS Termination Voltage?

I remember reading about that some where but am still kind of hazy on how that all works...

Ill edit/post more information in a sec about my NB situation with odd BIOS memory detection issues.

[Lusken]

Hey! I'v just got my new Asus Maximus II Formula, Can som Post (Or Re-post) some picz of their Bios-settings?

I've got an E1200 celeron CPU (yeah, i know - it sucks :P). I have reaced 3.45 ghz (1.425 volt) already, but i want to get longer, and since i haven't change anything besides volt-settings, frequency, and disabled all that Eist-function :banana::banana::banana::banana:.

Someone? :)

[kup]

Hey! I'v just got my new Asus Maximus II Formula, Can som Post (Or Re-post) some picz of their Bios-settings?

I've got an E1200 celeron CPU (yeah, i know - it sucks :P). I have reaced 3.45 ghz (1.425 volt) already, but i want to get longer, and since i haven't change anything besides volt-settings, frequency, and disabled all that Eist-function :banana::banana::banana::banana:.

Someone? :)

Wrong thread, dude. Check out the Maximus II thread for settings.

[19*12 gamer]

Alright! Thanks everyone, you all have been a great help.

I managed to move my fsb-wall from to 455 to 488 by changing the fsb:mem divider from 1:1 to 5:6. My ram will then run at 11008Mhz which is very high imho for 800Mhz ram. I also did not get the 4.4Ghz stable but thats because i did not want to raise mem voltage.
I have OCZ Titanium XTC RAM and was wondering what the max voltage is +- cuz im running it on 2.3v now (1088Mhz stable) (set to auto in bios)
When on 800Mhz it needs 2.064 according to bios readings, but that might be the maximus pushing it. (it works on 1.8 too for 800MHz set manually)
My temps rise like crazy when oc-ed to 4.2+, @4Ghz max 42degrees, at 4.2+Ghz going to 100%load gets it INSTANTLY 49 degrees? (all apps, its not very high but the instant-thing didn't feel good to me.

Bottom question is: Is 2.4v too much for 800Mhz 1.8v ram? (going to buy 1066 this week anyway, but like oc-ing more then "just upgrading")

[Grnfinger]

Alright! Thanks everyone, you all have been a great help.

I managed to move my fsb-wall from to 455 to 488 by changing the fsb:mem divider from 1:1 to 5:6. My ram will then run at 11008Mhz which is very high imho for 800Mhz ram. I also did not get the 4.4Ghz stable but thats because i did not want to raise mem voltage.
I have OCZ Titanium XTC RAM and was wondering what the max voltage is +- cuz im running it on 2.3v now (1088Mhz stable) (set to auto in bios)
When on 800Mhz it needs 2.064 according to bios readings, but that might be the maximus pushing it. (it works on 1.8 too for 800MHz set manually)
My temps rise like crazy when oc-ed to 4.2+, @4Ghz max 42degrees, at 4.2+Ghz going to 100%load gets it INSTANTLY 49 degrees? (all apps, its not very high but the instant-thing didn't feel good to me.

Bottom question is: Is 2.4v too much for 800Mhz 1.8v ram? (going to buy 1066 this week anyway, but like oc-ing more then "just upgrading")


2.4 volts might be a little xtreme for the ram, I would get a fan on them

[19*12 gamer]

And what about the voltage, won't i fry them? I can keep them cool, no problem:)

[carepolice]

1.8 to 2.4 is big jump, better keep em cool :cool:

[Commander_HK47]

2.4 volts might be a little xtreme for the ram, I would get a fan on them
I would general agree with this as excessive voltage will kill ram faster than any thing else(i know from experience from Athlon XP days...), I'm not sure what your memory ICs are rated for, however it would behooveyou(like myself with other tings)to look in forums/topics that cover your memory if you don't already know the specs for the memory. This way you can save your self some RMA time.

[Grnfinger]

And what about the voltage, won't i fry them? I can keep them cool, no problem:)

I have ran my GSkills at 2.3 volts for months 24/7 no issues, I think heat will larger factor that volts on your dimms.
You can check with the rep on XS

[Lamb]

Hey guys!

So I received my new Q9550, SLAWQ Batch # L818B188.
My Maximus Formula has Rampage Formula Bios Revision 308 and my ram is 4gb Mushkin Ascents PC-8500 2.10V

The max FSB I could get with everything to auto was 440, 445 = bluescreen, freeze, crash... I'm on air cooling (TRUE-120 + Scythe Ultra Kaze 3000RPM) but I'll buy my last watercooling pieces in some weeks.

I'd like to have it rollin at 3.6ghz or 3.8ghz, as stable as possible with the most performances for air cooling I can get for the moment.

EDIT : Updated - Tweaked it a bit myself looking at previous Grnfinger bios post...seems very stable, can it be tweaked more?




CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [8.5]
FSB Frequency [435]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [333]
PCIE Frequency [100]

DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [DDR2-1045]
DRAM Command Rate [Auto] (CPU-Z = 2T)
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time [15]
RAS# To Ras# Delay [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [55]
Write Recovery Time [6]
Read To Precharge Time [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [8]
Write To Read Delay(S) [3]
Write To Read Delay(D) [5]
Read To Read Delay(S) [4]
Read To Read Delay(D) [6]
Write To Write Delay(S) [4]
Write To Write Delay(D) [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Moderate]

Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Common Performance Level [Auto]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage [1.3750V] (CPU-Z = 1.352V)
CPU PLL Voltage [1.50]
North Bridge Voltage [1.51]
DRAM Voltage [2.10v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.40]
South Bridge Voltage [1.050]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.65x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [DDR2-REF]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [DDR2-REF]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2-REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage 1.50

[19*12 gamer]

Found nice 8500 sticks from Corsair at local store: :)
Name:XMS2-8500 /4096 MB /1066 MHz/DDR2/ Voltage 1,8 V //
Latency 5-5-5-15-2T
tested 100% stable @1600Mhz according to Corsair.(no voltage mentioned)

They also have a 2.1V version, i guess this one is the better one because it runs on lower voltage at the same speed+timings?

I really want to get the ram today:D

[carepolice]

1066 MHz/DDR2

Latency 5-5-5-15-2T

tested 100% stable @1600Mhz



wow :eek:

[kup]

Found nice 8500 sticks from Corsair at local store: :)
Name:XMS2-8500 /4096 MB /1066 MHz/DDR2/ Voltage 1,8 V //
Latency 5-5-5-15-2T
tested 100% stable @1600Mhz according to Corsair.(no voltage mentioned)

They also have a 2.1V version, i guess this one is the better one because it runs on lower voltage at the same speed+timings?

I really want to get the ram today:D

Got a model number for that ram?

[19*12 gamer]

yep, but I could not find it on Corsair's site, so i called the store to ask what voltage was stated on the dimms themself and it said 1.8v.
Part number: xms2-8500 or TWIN2X4096-8500c5 i guess.
http://www.mycom.nl/Products/View/Corsair%204096MB,XMS28500,DDR2/198643.aspx

They are the 4th in this list of test rapports from ASUS:
http://www.corsair.com/testreports/report_list.aspx?partner_id=238134

seems they hit 555-18@1.8v and 555-15 @2.1... :(
Thats good enough to me but not realy fair to state what the store was stating about this ram.

The picture is wrong on mycom website, they are the modules with xms2 on it, not dominator dimms.

Maybe the tested at 1600Mhz stable is wrong information from the store, but the most important thing to me was that they were running on 1066Mhz and needed 1.8V for it. I wont go over 1200Mhz anyway.

[Machine#17]

Can someone please help me?
I am at 3.4 with a e6600(planing to upgrade to a qx9550 sometime in the near future) and i have hit a wall and cant get it to be stable after this.
My bios settings are as follows:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 850
DRAM Command Rate : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.425
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : Auto
DRAM Voltage : 2.16
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
Loadline Calibration : disabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

[Grnfinger]

Found nice 8500 sticks from Corsair at local store: :)
Name:XMS2-8500 /4096 MB /1066 MHz/DDR2/ Voltage 1,8 V //
Latency 5-5-5-15-2T
tested 100% stable @1600Mhz according to Corsair.(no voltage mentioned)

They also have a 2.1V version, i guess this one is the better one because it runs on lower voltage at the same speed+timings?

I really want to get the ram today:D

I do believe you mean 1600 Rated FSB not 1600MHz, I would think Corsair would be the only ram company in business if that were true:rofl:

[RCG_Bex]

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb22/Elemental-Dragon/QX9650OCEG.jpg

RAM is set @ 2.3v with a corsair RAM cooler modded with San Aces :)

Pushed it higher but no screenshots of ity atm. Just killed my windows install trying to get 435 x 10 to boot again :rofl:

~Bex

[19*12 gamer]

The 1600Mhz was a error on the website of the seller,
my ram is Corsair twin2xcms2-8500c5 and runs 55515@2.1v and 55518@1.8v both @1066Mhz. runs stable around 1200 so that should not be the problem.

Weird thing is: I can POST up to 572*7 but i cant get 500*7 stable in windows. (orthos, small)

I got to 572 by using settings that Zucker2 here post #3.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showthread.php?t=187947&highlight=barrier

I had to change RAM to 55518 1.8v to boot, but that crashed starting windows.

I think i should be able to get to +-4.6 stable as my bios is stable on 4.55Ghz on 1.3V. I just dont know which settings to change/raise.

Please help :(

p.s will flashing maximus to rampage improve max OC/FSB?

[les_paulde]

yep, but I could not find it on Corsair's site, so i called the store to ask what voltage was stated on the dimms themself and it said 1.8v.
Part number: xms2-8500 or TWIN2X4096-8500c5 i guess.
http://www.mycom.nl/Products/View/Corsair%204096MB,XMS28500,DDR2/198643.aspx

They are the 4th in this list of test rapports from ASUS:
http://www.corsair.com/testreports/report_list.aspx?partner_id=238134

seems they hit 555-18@1.8v and 555-15 @2.1... :(
Thats good enough to me but not realy fair to state what the store was stating about this ram.

The picture is wrong on mycom website, they are the modules with xms2 on it, not dominator dimms.

Maybe the tested at 1600Mhz stable is wrong information from the store, but the most important thing to me was that they were running on 1066Mhz and needed 1.8V for it. I wont go over 1200Mhz anyway.

Since I speak dutch I think i can clear this up for you guys. The memory is indeed only 1066mhz ram; it merely states its been fully tested to run on 1600mhz compatible motherboards (like our beloved 'rampages'), not that it runs at 1600mhz... That would be simply amazing and they would never sell it at a store as n00b-like as mycom... :rofl:

[19*12 gamer]

Okay, is there anyone here that has a E8400 E0 at FSB500+ that is willing to post all (relevant) bios settings? (or changes compared 2 defaults)

I'm really hungry for new things to try as i have the whole weekend to get my system stable on 4.5+Ghz.

I will post all Voltage readings from Bios@7*570 around 19:00, i hope someone knows what i need to change.

And is 1:1 better for MAX OC then 5:6? My system doesnt seem to like 1:1 :mad:

[askimo]

Okay, is there anyone here that has a E8400 E0 at FSB500+ that is willing to post all (relevant) bios settings? (or changes compared 2 defaults)

I'm really hungry for new things to try as i have the whole weekend to get my system stable on 4.5+Ghz.

I will post all Voltage readings from Bios@7*570 around 19:00, i hope someone knows what i need to change.

And is 1:1 better for MAX OC then 5:6? My system doesnt seem to like 1:1 :mad:

I will post my setup tonight when I arrive home

[askimo]

Do you guys think that going to 2x2Gb instead of 4x1gb of ram would do any better for overclocking the CPU?

[Grnfinger]

Can someone please help me?
I am at 3.4 with a e6600(planing to upgrade to a qx9550 sometime in the near future) and i have hit a wall and cant get it to be stable after this.


You need 1.4+ volts for 3.4GHz?
I think your chip will not scale very well and you might be at its limit
Anyways you have to much set to auto
I can post a nice 3.6GHz template but it was done with a quad core.
I'm sure you can adapt the settings

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 4

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 9
Write to Read Delay (S) : 5
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.38
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[Machine#17]

OK thank you for your response.

[Hockster]

What would be a good NB voltage, I'm running 8GB of Mushkin XP2-6400 at 4-4-4-12 and 2.05 volts.

[19*12 gamer]

@Askimo;
Thanks for your help.
I've read alot about 4x1GB sticks stressing your NB more then 2x2GB, making it more unstable at high oc, but thats all i know. (i just got 2x2GB for that reason)

Im tweaking for weeks now and new ram xms2-8500c5 is running 1.8v@1080 55518 and cpu- and NBtemps are always lower then 42 degrees load so i must get 4.5+Ghz stable imo.
Having my bios stable @7*572 :shocked: and not getting 7*470 stress-stable is not very cool :confused:

@Hockster; 1.65 works for me i run 2x2gb 1080 2.1v 55515.

[19*12 gamer]

I got my BIOS stable @ 8*500 but booting vista gives th error message:
"image corrupt, cannot boot system"
(9*460 is stressing stable@1.304Volt idle and load)

My settings are:
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1142
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : AUTO

CPU Voltage : AUTO //reads in BIOS: 1.35v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 // 1.58v
North Bridge Voltage : 1. 65 // 1.648v
DRAM Voltage : AUTO // 2.304v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50 // 1.408v (vdroop?)
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration = everything disabled, multi =8

What might be the problem? Temps are always under 42 degrees C.

[19*12 gamer]

Update on my progress:

Managed to get Orthos small FFT's stress test stable for 73 seconds. (Vista is "stable", i can surf and Orthos Gromacs Core test does not fail)
I lowered a lot of the voltages: (all temps stay below 42degrees C)

My settings are:
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 470
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-941
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax: 1

CPU Voltage : AUTO //reads in BIOS/cpuz/cpuid: 1.304v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 // 1.58v
North Bridge Voltage : 1. 51 // 1.51v
DRAM Voltage : AUTO // 2.1v
FSB Termination Voltage : AUTO // 1.408v (vdroop?)
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

I tried transaction relax level 0;no POST, and setting :2 boots but stress test fails after 14seconds :mad:

[Grnfinger]

Have you tried a Rampage bios yet?

[19*12 gamer]

just flashed it to Rampage but that makes it harder for me to tweak.. any suggestions?

[Grnfinger]

just flashed it to Rampage but that makes it harder for me to tweak.. any suggestions?

Why, it has more options to help stabilize your rig.

[Thanh55]

I couldn't flash to Rampage at all, I follow the guide on page 1 but I got error BIOS file not compatible. My q9450 stable @ 470x8, never go over that with what ever voltage I send to CPU, NB, VTT....

[19*12 gamer]

I flashed it to rampage, its a bit more complicated now but i get most of the settings and got 8.5*500 stress stable for 18+ minutes:
@Thanh55: make a bootable USB stick as the first page instructs and use the afudos command listed there, I flashed Rampage Formula 0410.rom in it that way.

I stopped the test after 18 minutes, all temps stayed below 44 degrees C , im gonna leave it running tonight :)

My settings for that oc are:
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5 :)
FSB Frequency : 500 :)
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1002
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Ai Clock Twister : lighter
Transaction Booster : auto (0-30 dont get this??)

CPU Voltage : AUTO //reads in BIOS/cpuz/cpuid: 1.304v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 // 1.58v
North Bridge Voltage : 1. 51 // 1.51v
DRAM Voltage : AUTO // 2.1v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.6// 1.5v
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO //Dont get this 2
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO //and this (0.67*-0.62* = %?)
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Havent tried lowering voltages for this OC yet...
Tried for 3 hours to get 800*9 working but could not boot windows nomatter what, while 520*8.5 is able to boot vista and make screens but not stress the system...

[Dua|ist]

@19*12 gamer
I'm not a big Maximus (Rampage) Formula expert, but here are my 5 cents:
- disable both DRAM Static Read Control & Transaction Booster (Disable - Relax Level 0) at first. This will make it less stressful for northbridge
- consider loosening Row Refresh Cycle Time (say 45 - 50, once again to make sure it's not the memory that's holding you back)
- try setting FSB Strap to North Bridge to 400 - sometimes helps to achieve higher FSB
- try to avoid as much voltages set to AUTO as possible, set them manually
- vcore is way too low for the clocks you want, set it manually, so that bios monitoring / CPU-Z reads at least 1.35 under load
- up the PLL a little - this sometimes helps when OCing at high FSB with a high multiplier
- same for Norhtbridge, set it to 1.55
- FSB Termination Voltage seems too high for me, maybe lowering it to 1.35 - 1.4 will help?
- if none of the above helps play with PCI-Express Frequency (different values between 100 - 110) and / or toggle PCI-Express Spread Spectrum

[Grnfinger]

I flashed it to rampage, its a bit more complicated now but i get most of the settings and got 8.5*500 stress stable for 18+ minutes:
@Thanh55: make a bootable USB stick as the first page instructs and use the afudos command listed there, I flashed Rampage Formula 0410.rom in it that way.

I stopped the test after 18 minutes, all temps stayed below 44 degrees C , im gonna leave it running tonight :)



Havent tried lowering voltages for this OC yet...
Tried for 3 hours to get 800*9 working but could not boot windows nomatter what, while 520*8.5 is able to boot vista and make screens but not stress the system...

Your FSBT is way to high 1.40 max in bios.
take your NB to 1.55 it should help

[19*12 gamer]

Thanks, will try it out. The transaction booster gives me only the option to enable and has a setting of 0 - 30 ?? Does this setting effect oc?

[19*12 gamer]

sorry double post

[Thanh55]

@19*12 gamer: still have the same error..hmmm. Have to stuck with 1207 BIOS.

[Commander_HK47]

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=2

More than likely this has been posted but i find it a fairly good read as there is a lot of info in this review that explains some basic but mystifying aspects of the maximus/rampage formula board to new comers.

19*12 gamer; i think one reason you are having issues is because of the decrease of your multiplier witch in return is forcing you to use a higher *FSB to reach the clock speed you are going for. The problem is that the higher FSB in conjunction with the lower multiplier is causing some sort of stress on the north bridge when it tries to communicate with the system memory.

I had an issue with a particular set of values i was trying to use to obtain 3.6 with my Q6600(instead of 400x*9 450*8 was suggested), now this is not a knock against that individual as they where just trying to help.

I did not change voltages or any other setting other than the ratio/FBS, when i tried to test a few times afterward(for statical averaging purposes) i not only failed the Intel burn in test/Prime 95, but my machine would BSOD/hang as where it would just fail before(400*9 apposed to 450*8) and i could still use the OS.

I think it might have something to do with how it(the processor)negotiates with the memory controller in the north bridge when it comes to handling data transactions with the systems memory bus. Some thing to the affect of to large of a ratio skew in terms of the CPU to NB to Memory binding(best i could picture it ATM).

I could be wrong about all of that, and wouldn't mind if i was told so. I would just like to see supporting evidence to learn/confirm otherwise.

[scoobie dave]

Do most people who flash to the Rampage Formula rom's have more luck with overclocking higher fsb?

[kup]

Yes, generally. The Rampage bios seems to make things more stable as you go higher. It won't always help you gain more MHz as this is very much silicon dependent but it will help.

[Houdini]

Hello, what is the advantage of flashing to rampage bios? Better oc capabilities? Faster or what's the deal?

And what bios is recommended for the rampage?

[kup]

Please read the thread instead of asking questions that have been answered at least 50 times already.

[BieBiep]

RF 410 bios lists improved memory compatibility.
Can i just flash the bios provided by asus to my P5E or does it need modification first?


I'm happily running 403 atm, provided on the first page, but i cant get the board to POST with 2 sticks... (Sticks tested in a p5b deluxe)

[19*12 gamer]

I made it to 4.5Ghz to bad it needs 1.45V

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks everyone, I think I made it to my goal, just trying to get the voltages down a bit and trying to stress the system harder because orthos can run for hours now

My settings are:
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: disabled
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : auto (0-30 I still dont get this setting, there is NO relax)

CPU Voltage : 1.46//reads in BIOS/cpuz/cpuid: 1.448v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58 // 1.664v
North Bridge Voltage : 1. 65 // 1.648v
DRAM Voltage : 2.2// 2.2v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.44// 1.344v
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.62*
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67*
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Gonna try Intels burn test now...
EDIT:This app is very scary, it took my cpu from 36 degrees up to 68 Degrees C in 1 second! I dont think this represents normal use, even with several stress tests the system never reach beyond 59 degrees..
My cpu is rated for 74Degrees max according to Intel, whats a safe max temp to run on? (I did pass the Burn tests)

Thanks again for assisting me

Any suggestions on how to test stability when it is already stable for hours of stressing the system with Orthos? (Even tried multiple tests simultaneous)

[Grnfinger]

First Orthos sucks ass I have had many systems pass orthos and fail prime.
OCCT is better than Orthos

Second your NB and FSBT are way to high for 24/7 use.

Besides that nice job getting it stable.

What ram do you have running 1:1 you should be able to enable dram static, and run clock twister strong for much improved bandwidth.

[Commander_HK47]

Transaction Booster : auto (0-30 I still dont get this setting, there is NO relax)


please read that article i post from anandtech.com, it will explain how to set the common performance level correctly. However you need to read most/all the article as its not just covered in one set page.

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=2

[Grnfinger]

there is a chart that lists the proper PL level for each strap/FSB
But its fairly basic stuff to figure out on ones own

[Commander_HK47]

yes, but for people that don't know what, why, or how CPL works in conjunction with other settings like FBS straps and other memory timings, it provides a good starting point to learn.

[19*12 gamer]

Thanks for your help, i will try to lower the NB voltage but i think i already tried that and i cannot lower it without losing stability.
FSB-T at 1.344v is too high? With the Transaction booster setting i only get stability problems, havent tried every possible setting yet tho. (Will try that tonight)

I can get into my desktop with 9*533 but cannot stress the system. I think I will go for 4.25Ghz @ 1.3V cpu and FSBT 1.25v. NB will need only 1.5 then. Seems like an ok-ish oc.

[19*12 gamer]

Just read anandtech article, very nice info indeed, maybe i can tweak even higher on lower Vcore since I've bin setting Loadline Calibration to enabled as disabled gave me (more) problems.
(Had to read the article 3 times to "fully" understand)

Good thing to read is that according to the article setting LC to enabled :banana::banana::banana::banana:s with your voltages, so I will test this statement, I certainly hope its true :yepp:

EDIT:After 2hrs of testing my first impressions are that they indeed tested a 6750 and the same does not work for a E8400 E0.:(
Setting Loadline Calibration off makes every cpuvoltage setting more unstable while maintaining the rest of the previously stable oc settings.
Makes me wonder what else does not apply for my cpu...

Anyway 4.1 seems a nice oc with about 1.28 vcore so i will stick with that i guess.

[Dom7184]

Rampage Formula well it OC my X3350 aka Q9450 and E8500 E0

i know the E8500 well get more fsb cuz its a dual core but what about the X3350 it has a x8 multi

its this or a P5E Deluxe idk much about the new chipsets im still on a P965 :p:

[Allubz]

Hiya guys,

I'm wondering if you might be able to help me getting a decent overclock on my rig:

Maximus Formula (am looking for some boot media to flash to Rampage)
E8400 C0 @ Scythe Infinity
OCZ FlexXLC 6400 CL3 (runs 1066MHz CL5)

For some reason the processor does 9*400 fine but anything near 4GHz is subject to epic reboots and instability.

I've read quite some stuff in this thread already but for some reason no said settings work for me. For example I've used:

6*475
RAM @ 950 5-5-5-15
PCI Freq: 110
CPU Volt: 1.45
PPL: 1.6
NB: 1.65
DRAM: 2.3
FSBT/VTT: 1.4
SB: Auto
Loadline: Auto
CPU GTL: 0.63x
NB GTL: 0.67x
DDR Ref voltages: Auto
SB 1.5 Volt: 1.5

It was a no go. I'm curious whether my problem is the FSB (around 443 it's bootable, but not exactly stable), and how I can possibly fix this.

The whole rig runs perfectly cool and stable at 3.6GHz.
Idle:
Core 1 - 32
Core 2 - 28
CPU --- 23
NB ----- 28

The Northbridge doesn't heat up too much at all when putting 1.65v and stressing and neither does the CPU, it goes up to 50 at worst.

Any input would be much appreciated.

[19*12 gamer]

Are you stressing your cpu with OCCT or IntelBurntest? I noticed that apps like Orthos dont stress the system near as much as the better apps resulting in much lower temps.

[ShawnTRD]

I have Rampage Formula BIOS. And I just don't seem to be picking up these hole tRD, Ai Transaction Booster, Ai Clock Twister. I just can't seem to understand it. Can anyone teach me in a simple way?

[Sparda]

I have Rampage Formula BIOS. And I just don't seem to be picking up these hole tRD, Ai Transaction Booster, Ai Clock Twister. I just can't seem to understand it. Can anyone teach me in a simple way?

I thought tRD = Transaction Booster(TB) = Performance Level(PL)
When start oc you cpu you want to put the ram out of equation. So set:

Static Read: Disable
Clock Twister: Light or Moderate
TB: Manual > PL: set to 7 or 8 or 9 and so on that allow you to post depend on your straps , fsb and ram divider. Ideally you want to choose the lowest that allow you to POST/BOOT.

After finish oc the cpu and find it stable. Start messing with the ram to improve some latency and read.

Static Read: Enable > TEST > Clock Twister: Moderate or Strong > TEST again.

With the lowest PL level that you choose before start pulling some phases one at a time. Note that every divider has their amount of phases.

So pull in CHA PH1 , CHB PH1, CHA PH 4, CHB PH4, CHA PH5, CHB PH5....ONE at a time and see if it passes Memtest86+ first or even posts.


More hocus pocus here. Basics of Strap Selections, Dividers and Derived Memory Speeds (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=4)

[ShawnTRD]

So pull in CHA PH1 , CHB PH1, CHA PH 4, CHB PH4, CHA PH5, CHB PH5....ONE at a time and see if it passes Memtest86+ first or even posts.
Basics of Strap Selections, Dividers and Derived Memory Speeds (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=4)



pull in CHA PH* ?
Change from Disabled to Enabled?

[sonojo]

My maximus formula does not boot after I flashed Rampage Formula Bios 0403. All 3 leds are on but no picture, no beep, lcd post says cpu init but nothing happens. I tried to take out the battery, the ddr2 modules, vga card, I wait for hours and nothing. Can someone help me?

[Zucker2k]

My maximus formula does not boot after I flashed Rampage Formula Bios 0403. All 3 leds are on but no picture, no beep, lcd post says cpu init but nothing happens. I tried to take out the battery, the ddr2 modules, vga card, I wait for hours and nothing. Can someone help me?Unplug the power supply and wait 5 miuntes, if it doesn't post, clear cmos.

[sonojo]

Unplug the power supply and wait 5 miuntes, if it doesn't post, clear cmos.

I tried that already and nothing!

[sonojo]

Quote:
Originally Posted by M-XXXX
I have some big troubles now.





Tried this already. Tried with no ram, and still doesnt beep. Ive unpluged from electricity for 10min, and it didnt helped either:mad: I have cleared CMOS too, even removed battery..

Did you solve your problem? I'm having the same problem!!! Can you help me?

[ShawnTRD]

I tried that already and nothing!

What CPU and RAM do you have? RF BIOS might not like what your running. Does you fans and stuff turn on? When you first start it after leaving the PSU off and resetting the BIOS are you giving it a minute to boot? Mine take 5 seconds or more to fire up after unplugging it.

[Zucker2k]

Do you have an LCD poster? If you get a DET RAM, try booting with 1 stick, or a cheapo DDR2 ram.

[Commander_HK47]

Has anyone come up with a fan mod for the stock northbidge cooler(non SE)with a TRUE cpu heatsink installed?

[faithful10]

First Orthos sucks ass I have had many systems pass orthos and fail prime.
OCCT is better than Orthos

Second your NB and FSBT are way to high for 24/7 use.

Besides that nice job getting it stable.

What ram do you have running 1:1 you should be able to enable dram static, and run clock twister strong for much improved bandwidth.

I have been running with 1.49 FSBT and 1.58 NB since april and no stability problems ever. This is with Rampage bios and my system, is 24/7 stable at 533 fsb speed in all stressprograms.

I got alot of ekstra fans in the case.

Before convertion to rampage maks fsb speed i could go was around 508-510. But with rampage bios and the possibilty to choose cpu gtl: 0,67 and Northbridge gtl 0,67 and performance level 9 i can run 537 mhz.

Everest score at 533 mhz here: http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1223/533everest3bs9.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=533everest3bs9.jpg)
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/533everest3bs9.jpg/1/w840.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img444/533everest3bs9.jpg/1/)

[sonojo]

What CPU and RAM do you have? RF BIOS might not like what your running. Does you fans and stuff turn on? When you first start it after leaving the PSU off and resetting the BIOS are you giving it a minute to boot? Mine take 5 seconds or more to fire up after unplugging it.

It is a quad 9300 with a patriot ddr2 1200mhz, the fans run but no picture.

[sonojo]

Do you have an LCD poster? If you get a DET RAM, try booting with 1 stick, or a cheapo DDR2 ram.

the lcd poster shows CPU INIT and stops there, I tried with one stick from a cheap kingston and nothing. The strange thing is that all 3 leds close to ddr2 slots go on
and there is no beep and no video.

[Grnfinger]

the lcd poster shows CPU INIT and stops there, I tried with one stick from a cheap kingston and nothing. The strange thing is that all 3 leds close to ddr2 slots go on
and there is no beep and no video.

Try removing the chip, clear cmos, and pull battery.
Wait 15 mins and remount the chip.
If its still an no go then looks like its RMA time.
Being a NON SE Asus will cross ship you another board but you have to request it.

[sonojo]

Try removing the chip, clear cmos, and pull battery.
Wait 15 mins and remount the chip.
If its still an no go then looks like its RMA time.
Being a NON SE Asus will cross ship you another board but you have to request it.

forgive for my ignorance but where is locate the chip?

[ShawnTRD]

forgive for my ignorance but where is locate the chip?

I think he's talking about the CPU.

[Futastic]

I'm using a Q9550 got it running stable at 3.84GHz, but I can't seem to get it stable at 4GHz. When I boot into vista at 4GHz it freezes a few minutes later. Can anyone help to get it stable?

Heres my settings @ 4GHz:
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-942
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Lighter
Transaction Booster : Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.33125
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51v
DRAM Voltage : 2.12v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.22
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.65x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[loften]

does anyone have a extra se heat pipe cooler/water block they may be willing to give up so i can rma my board?

[MacClipper]

I'm using a Q9550 got it running stable at 3.84GHz, but I can't seem to get it stable at 4GHz. When I boot into vista at 4GHz it freezes a few minutes later. Can anyone help to get it stable?
...

FSB Termination Voltage : 1.22
Maybe try increasing this.

btw, that's a very nice quad o'c on a X38. Which batch Q9550 are you using? :)

[Futastic]

Maybe try increasing this.

btw, that's a very nice quad o'c on a X38. Which batch Q9550 are you using? :)

The batch I am using is L818B110. BTW this is C1 stepping not E0. :D

[Futastic]

Cool...the FSB Termination voltage worked. It's at 1.34 in the bios but real voltage is at 1.25. CPU voltage in the bios is 1.33125, real is 1.320. Priming now @ 4004 MHz :D

[Futastic]

Eh...system freezes after 15 mins of prime. Should I bump my FSB Termination Voltage up more?

[Zucker2k]

Eh...system freezes after 15 mins of prime. Should I bump my FSB Termination Voltage up more?
What temps are you getting? A slight bump in Vnb may solve it.

[Futastic]

What temps are you getting? A slight bump in Vnb may solve it.

NB voltage?

My NB temp is at 56C

Idle
33C for the CPU
Core 1-44,Core 2-43,Core 3-43, Core 4-42

Load
62C for the CPU
Core 1-71,Core 2-70,Core 3-72, Core 4-72

[ShawnTRD]

Whats the best BIOS now a days? MF or RF...

[Allubz]

Shawn - RF

-

To update my situation once more. Following settings do not work. I get stuck at Det DRAM but I'm pretty sure it's not the DRAM since it runs around 1000MHz quite fine.

6*450 (just to test the FSB first, before upping the multi)
333 Strap
PCIE 110
Mem 901 5-5-5-15 (rest auto)
DRAM static read: disabled
AI clock: auto
Transboosta: auto

CPU volt 1.4
CPU PPL auto
NB 1.59
DRAM 2.3 (spec is 2.4, maximus adds another 0.1v)
FSBT 1.4
SB auto
Loadline Cal - Disabled
GTL Ref - 0.63x
NB Ref - 0.67x
SB 1.5 - 1.5
Spread spectra - Disabled

-

I'm seriously clueless what I can possibly do to make that FSB go any higher.
Temps on 3.6GHz (400*9)are 30 idle, 48 load so a lower clock shouldn't generate more heat (6x 450-500 for example).
It's the FSB that locks above 440 somehow.

Specs again:

ASUS Maximus Formula Special Edition (1407)
Intel E8400 C0
4x1GB OCZ FlexXLC PC2-6400 CL3 (runs stable around 1000MHz CL5)

Cheers and thanks in advance,

[Grnfinger]

Shawn - RF

-

To update my situation once more. Following settings do not work. I get stuck at Det DRAM but I'm pretty sure it's not the DRAM since it runs around 1000MHz quite fine.

6*450 (just to test the FSB first, before upping the multi)
333 Strap
PCIE 110
Mem 901 5-5-5-15 (rest auto)
DRAM static read: disabled
AI clock: auto
Transboosta: auto

CPU volt 1.4
CPU PPL auto
NB 1.59
DRAM 2.3 (spec is 2.4, maximus adds another 0.1v)
FSBT 1.4
SB auto
Loadline Cal - Disabled
GTL Ref - 0.63x
NB Ref - 0.67x
SB 1.5 - 1.5
Spread spectra - Disabled

-

I'm seriously clueless what I can possibly do to make that FSB go any higher.
Temps on 3.6GHz (400*9)are 30 idle, 48 load so a lower clock shouldn't generate more heat (6x 450-500 for example).
It's the FSB that locks above 440 somehow.

Specs again:

ASUS Maximus Formula Special Edition (1407)
Intel E8400 C0
4x1GB OCZ FlexXLC PC2-6400 CL3 (runs stable around 1000MHz CL5)

Cheers and thanks in advance,

DET DRAM is an incorrect PL setting adjusting the value to a higher number will correct the hang and allow you to boot
High FSB and lock ups usally mean vNB are to low try increasing NB

[Allubz]

Thanks for your quick reply.

What's the "PL" number? Do you mean CPU PPL?

I'll play around a bit more.

[ShawnTRD]

Shawn - RF


I was also really looking for a version

[Degenerate83]

ok having issue with this! says on page 1 that this is for P5e as well yeah. so here my frob everytime i follow instruction the the letter....... it comes up saying could not open rom file while in bootup dos? tried different rom files, reset all my overclocks back to defult but nothing? some help would be awsome. cheers guys

[SirDaemon]

Thanks for your quick reply.

What's the "PL" number? Do you mean CPU PPL?

I'll play around a bit more.

PL is Performance Level, which if set to low might give DET RAM.

[Degenerate83]

ignore my last post figured it out now!!! forgot to add space at the end lmao!!! cheers for that he's to hopefully overclocking my e8200 further than 3.8!!!

[Commander_HK47]

Another basic reason you can get "DET RAM" error is because the set value for your memory voltage is set too low.

Case in point my memory modules have a EPP for 1200mhz@2.2volts + timings, however if I try to run all for sticks at the lowest JEDEC value of 800mhz@1.8 it wont boot with all for sticks installed, it will boot with tow DIMs installed but at that voltage but not all four.

[slugzkea]

would I be able to flash my rampage board to a maximus? i bought it as a rampage.

[Zucker2k]

would I be able to flash my rampage board to a maximus? i bought it as a rampage.

Yes you could, you may lose some functionality though; dual phase ram power? eg.

[JCGhz]

would I be able to flash my rampage board to a maximus? i bought it as a rampage.

why would you want to do that??

[supermario87]

hi guys, i'm new here :D

sorry for that post but i have not found smth really useful for my case(just that flashing p5e3 dlx to premium wifi doesent work)

any feedback about upgrading p5e3 premium wifi ap @n to a rampage or rampage extreme?

thanks :)

[slugzkea]

Yes you could, you may lose some functionality though; dual phase ram power? eg.

that's okay,

So it's totally safe to just use the bios EZ flash utility and flash to a maximus?

and if i dont like i can flash back to a rampage?

I don't need to HP utility or anything like that, since rampage and maximus bios's are the same size?

[Zucker2k]

that's okay,

So it's totally safe to just use the bios EZ flash utility and flash to a maximus?

and if i dont like i can flash back to a rampage?

I don't need to HP utility or anything like that, since rampage and maximus bios's are the same size?No, you can't use easy flash. You'll need a bootable floppy or other removable drive with afudos 236u (preferably) and the bios you want to flash to

Syntax:

afu236u /i1201.rom /n /pbnc

1201 is an example of the bios version you want to flash.I'm interested in knowing your results. Of course, you are responsible for your own endeavors.

[slugzkea]

Curious, what's wrong with EZ flash?

[RCG_Bex]

I know we''ve seen these all before but I finally ripped my mobo apart after having problems.....

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb22/Elemental-Dragon/MoboStripping.jpg

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb22/Elemental-Dragon/LackOfContact.jpg

I didn't even use the hairdryer... The stock cooler quite litureally fell off when I took the pins and screws out... And only 1 mosfet cooler was making contact :shakes:

~Bex

[Zucker2k]

I know we''ve seen these all before but I finally ripped my mobo apart after having problems.....



I didn't even use the hairdryer... The stock cooler quite litureally fell off when I took the pins and screws out... And only 1 mosfet cooler was making contact :shakes:

~BexI guess the board wanted none of that ginormous dryer :eek: Anyway, its good you caught that lack of contact on the mosfets, those are some pretty iffy things when it comes to stability. I'm a little concerned seeing the stock cooler all over your cpu socket tho.

[Zucker2k]

Curious, what's wrong with EZ flash?EZ Flash doesn't support cross-flash.

[RCG_Bex]

I guess the board wanted none of that ginormous dryer :eek: Anyway, its good you caught that lack of contact on the mosfets, those are some pretty iffy things when it comes to stability. I'm a little concerned seeing the stock cooler all over your cpu socket tho.

Lol well as a woman with long hair I can't live without a good hairdryer!!!

Oh and the heatsink wasn't actually resting ont he socket, funny angle tbh, not the 1st person to say that. It was still lifted up on the mosfet cooler at that point....

~Bex

[Zucker2k]

Lol well as a woman with long hair I can't live without a good hairdryer!!!

Oh and the heatsink wasn't actually resting ont he socket, funny angle tbh, not the 1st person to say that. It was still lifted up on the mosfet cooler at that point....

~BexYeah from that angle it looked like the cooler was having a short-fest on your board :D It'll be a bummer to finally assemble all your stuff and get the dreaded "cpu init." Oh, this is a nice project: The Real Elemental Dragon :up: You do a nice job. Asus does manage to screw you when you least expect it. Gosh, wish I had 2x 4870 x2s.

[RCG_Bex]

Wouldn't surprise me tbh - Asus screwed me over so many times already and that board I suspect is dying..... This is my las resort and so peeved at Asus I don't ever want to try RMA'ing ever again....

~Bex

[19*12 gamer]

@Allubz:

Your settings:
6*475
RAM @ 950 5-5-5-15
PCI Freq: 110
CPU Volt: 1.45
PPL: 1.6
NB: 1.65
DRAM: 2.3
FSBT/VTT: 1.4
SB: Auto
Loadline: Auto
CPU GTL: 0.63x
NB GTL: 0.67x
DDR Ref voltages: Auto
SB 1.5 Volt: 1.5
---------------

My 5 cents on those:
First flash it to Rampage! Your wasting your time, Maximus bios: my maximum POST was +- 500FSB. Rampage Bios lets me boot windows @ 570FSB!.
533FSB rock stable on 1.36 voltage for cpu.

-set DDR voltage manually to your Rams spec.
-PCI Freq: 100, wont be your problem.(yet)
-CPU gtl 0.62
-Loadline = disabled (enabled/auto never worked for me)
-NB=1.49-1.57 should be plenty (will result in 1.56- 1.6*)
-pll = 1.5
-cpu voltage= try 1.4 first and up that this its stable.
-try ai booster on auto.

Why dont you try my posted settings? (read last couple of pages)

Good luck!

[slugzkea]

No, you can't use easy flash. You'll need a bootable floppy or other removable drive with afudos 236u (preferably) and the bios you want to flash to

Syntax:

afu236u /i1201.rom /n /pbnc

1201 is an example of the bios version you want to flash.I'm interested in knowing your results. Of course, you are responsible for your own endeavors.

I flashed it successfully to a maximus. fiddling with settings now, trying to ge get a stable 4ghz clock with 1200mhz ram using 400 fsb strap.

so far windows keeps freezing.

[kup]

I REALLY fail to see what can be gained from flashing to an inferior bios?! The Rampage bios may be slightly tougher on ram and chipset timings but once you learn the ins and outs of the bios, it's day and night in comparison to the lacking Maximus bios.

[mit78]

i try to flash rampage bios on maximus,but not work.please advice me
thx

[kup]

How did it "not work"? Did you follow the guide in the first post?

[slugzkea]

Well i was able to play games and boot into windows fine with the latest maximus bios (goal is to reach my rams at 1200mhz), but any kind of stress testing failed.

So now i've flashed back to rampage bios 0501 and its just as unstable as ever.

I dont know why this viper fin 9600 micron d9s hate this board so much. im going to try the rampage bios 0403.

[Zucker2k]

Well i was able to play games and boot into windows fine with the latest maximus bios (goal is to reach my rams at 1200mhz), but any kind of stress testing failed.

So now i've flashed back to rampage bios 0501 and its just as unstable as ever.

I dont know why this viper fin 9600 micron d9s hate this board so much. im going to try the rampage bios 0403.Post your full bios bios settings.

[slugzkea]

Post your full bios bios settings.

soon, back on the maximus bios gonna try a few more things..

but honestly, 1164 or maybe even 1181mhz is the highest i can achieve. ive tried advanced skew 300, 100, 50, ive tried pretty much everything but i'll post the bios settings soon.

[Shiranui Gen-An]

soon, back on the maximus bios gonna try a few more things..

but honestly, 1164 or maybe even 1181mhz is the highest i can achieve. ive tried advanced skew 300, 100, 50, ive tried pretty much everything but i'll post the bios settings soon.

Are there chips on both sides of the memory sticks? Check this post (http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showpost.php?p=3342532&postcount=48) for a way to verify if the Patriots are really D9s. You shouldn't be having anywhere near this much trouble.

[slugzkea]

Are there chips on both sides of the memory sticks? Check this post (http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showpost.php?p=3342532&postcount=48) for a way to verify if the Patriots are really D9s. You shouldn't be having anywhere near this much trouble.

After talking to patriot themselves they claim the black viper fin 9600 are D9's. 1200mhz still is a no- go, though.

Here are my bios settings to attempt 1200mhz on maximus bios 1207:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1199
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 45
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.55v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.62v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.59v
DRAM Voltage : 2.28v (rated 2.3v, overvolt real = 2.3v)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.52v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

I've als tried 5-5-5-12 (rated), 5-5-5-18, 5-5-5-14, 5-5-5-16.

Farthest I can get is a stable boot, play games.

No Super PI, no PRIME :(

[Shiranui Gen-An]

Dude, if that's your E8400 you're clocking, the FSB Termination voltage is WAY too high! You're gonna kill that thing!

[slugzkea]

it's been that high for as long as i can remember.

[Zucker2k]

it's been that high for as long as i can remember.Yeah, that vtt myth has been long busted.

Here are a few things I suggest.

1. I think you want to stay on the 400 strap so you can bring your chip/ram near their max ocs, but I'd rather get on the 333 strap.

2. change try 5-5-5-15-3-55 or 5-5-5-18-3-55

3. go up one count on TRD (PL)

4. Try a little more NBV

[slugzkea]

Yeah, that vtt myth has been long busted.

Here are a few things I suggest.

1. I think you want to stay on the 400 strap so you can bring your chip/ram near their max ocs, but I'd rather get on the 333 strap.

2. change try 5-5-5-15-3-55 or 5-5-5-18-3-55

3. go up one count on TRD (PL)

4. Try a little more NBV

tried all your suggestions. any stress testing still fails within seconds.

[slugzkea]

Well guys, I think I got it. Been prim95'ing for a few hours now. I know that doesn't mean anything, but before, it would crash under a minute. So it's a good sign. I'll leave it prim95'ing over night but for now, time for sum games!

TACTIC: These rams were tested with P35 chippy's, so I used my Neo2-FR's Motherboard SPD timings on the Rampage.

Here are my current BIOS settings using Maximus Bios 1207:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1199
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 12
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 45
Write Recovery Time : 12
Read to Precharge Time : 12

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 12
Write to Read Delay (S) : 12
Write to Read Delay (D) : 12
Read to Read Delay (S) : 12
Read to Read Delay (D) : 12
Write to Write Delay (S) : 12
Write to Write Delay (D) : 12
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0

CPU Voltage : 1.55v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.62v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61v
DRAM Voltage : 2.28v (rated 2.3v, overvolt real = 2.3v)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.52v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5


-----------------------------------

However, the results are terrible!!!

[chawks2]

Your read/writes should improve when you enable PL/Transaction Booster. Enable transaction booster and note the PL level. Slowly decrease the value each time until it becomes unbootable. Then use the previous value which allowed post, should give you much better results.:up:

EDIT

Read about tRD and how it can help performance (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=6). It's an excellent read and can avoid the "guesswork" above.

[slugzkea]

Your read/writes should improve when you enable PL/Transaction Booster. Enable transaction booster and note the PL level. Slowly decrease the value each time until it becomes unbootable. Then use the previous value which allowed post, should give you much better results.:up:

EDIT

Read about tRD and how it can help performance (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=6). It's an excellent read and can avoid the "guesswork" above.

i enabled transaction booster and the lowest level i could achieve was 7.

The results were nsaty. latency of 106ms, and lower read/write speeds.

[chawks2]

slug, not sure where your problem lies. Maybe it's the ddr2-1200 stix?

Check the thread here (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=558528), I posted my results with PL 13 vs PL 8 and there was a tremendous difference in memory speeds.:shrug:

[RCG_Bex]

Quick test of my board with the newly lapped cpu etc - all is well- still alive :)

~Bex

[Zucker2k]

Quick test of my board with the newly lapped cpu etc - all is well- still alive :)

~BexCool, post up some pictures of your rig when it's done; your hardware's got me all interested in your posts all of a sudden :p:

[ShawnTRD]

wanted to see if anyone could suggest some advanced timing settings for my ASUS Maximus Formula with the new Ballistix 6400 2.0V. I want like to see 1066 out of them. Thanks


CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : ?
Row Refresh Cycle Time : ?
Write Recovery Time : ?
Read to Precharge Time : ?

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : ?
Write to Read Delay (S) : ?
Write to Read Delay (D) : ?
Read to Read Delay (S) : ?
Read to Read Delay (D) : ?
Write to Write Delay (S) : ?
Write to Write Delay (D) : ?

Write to PRE Delay : ?
Read to PRE Delay : ?
PRE to PRE Delay : ?
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : ?
ALL PRE to REF Delay : ?

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled ??
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate ??
Transaction Booster : Manual ??

Common Performance Level ??

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled ?
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled ?
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled ?
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled ?

[Grnfinger]

This will get my Mushkin XP2's to 1200MHz
You take a small read hit

CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 65
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 10
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 16
Read to PRE Delay : 6
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6


Quick test of my board with the newly lapped cpu etc - all is well- still alive :)

~Bex

I thought you had your RMA all sorted out?
I had to RMA my Maximus the second experience was much smoother than the 3870X2 run

[RCG_Bex]

Well the GPU got lost coming from Taiwan and the repair centre sent the wrong card to the UK centre and they didn't tell anyone back at the repair centre so I was left 3 weeks with no clue as to what was wrong. Phoned Asus down south and they rumaged and found this out. now I have to wait another 3 weeks for another new card to come from Taiwan to replace the 1 lost etc.

The test was because Zucker got me worried incase I did let it touch - that n I was petrified I'd lapped my CPU to death! I was my first time :P

~Bex

[Grnfinger]

Well the GPU got lost coming from Taiwan and the repair centre sent the wrong card to the UK centre and they didn't tell anyone back at the repair centre so I was left 3 weeks with no clue as to what was wrong. Phoned Asus down south and they rumaged and found this out. now I have to wait another 3 weeks for another new card to come from Taiwan to replace the 1 lost etc.

The test was because Zucker got me worried incase I did let it touch - that n I was petrified I'd lapped my CPU to death! I was my first time :P

~Bex

I recall my first CPU lap, it was rather stressfull pushing the power button :D

[RCG_Bex]

I recall my first CPU lap, it was rather stressfull pushing the power button :D

I couldn't do it - I got my BF to push the button so I could blame him if I broke it :P

~Bex

[Zucker2k]

I couldn't do it - I got my BF to push the button so I could blame him if I broke it :P

~BexI'm sure that was the toughest thing he ever did.

[Michowski]

I just want to get your guys opinions on my overclock here. First off let me say im a total noob to overclocking, ive been reading about it but never actually doing it before im not sure if what im doing is ok or not. I got pics from my bios so you can see what I exactly did. I got a x48chipset rampage formula, q9550 quad. After this I did use occt to run a stabilty test and it passed. I am using core temp and just on desktop its sitting at 42c. During the test it was mostly at 62c. I have played cod4 for over an hour and cod5 for an hour as well and no problems.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i70/michowski/SSPX0083.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i70/michowski/SSPX0084.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i70/michowski/SSPX0085.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i70/michowski/SSPX0086.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i70/michowski/SSPX0087.jpg

[ShawnTRD]

1) Set all your Voltage settings manualy. NB Temp is high for just being idle in BIOS (My NB temp is about 35 idle)
What I do is set everthing to AUTO or Load Defalt Settings. Then I go into the monitor and see what my voltage are then, and write them down. Now I go and set my voltages manualy, but note that what you set them to is alittle different then what they will really be. The one that you really want to watch is DRAM. My BIOS setting is 1.94V but it really comes out to be 2.03V. Almost 0.10V higher then I set it. And depending on your RAM you need to set that your self every time. By Default my DRAM Voltage is 2.0V, and for me thats good because thats my RAM's rated Voltage.




2) Just look through this thread and check other peoples BIOS Settings.

[RCG_Bex]

I'm sure that was the toughest thing he ever did.

Lol yeah he was like "are you going to break my balls if this doesn't work?" n I said "no hun, wouldn't want to break those as well, can't live without both my pleasurers machine OR man" :rofl:

~Bex

[Zucker2k]

I just want to get your guys opinions on my overclock here. First off let me say im a total noob to overclocking, ive been reading about it but never actually doing it before im not sure if what im doing is ok or not. I got pics from my bios so you can see what I exactly did. I got a x48chipset rampage formula, q9550 quad. After this I did use occt to run a stabilty test and it passed. I am using core temp and just on desktop its sitting at 42c. During the test it was mostly at 62c. I have played cod4 for over an hour and cod5 for an hour as well and no problems. Well if it ain't broke. don't fix it. My only problem is that your NB voltage seems a bit high for that overclock, but then you'll have to resort to manual to set it youself and since you're new to overclocking, you'll be opening a can of worms since manual overclocking usually involves changing all the vital settings to accomplish total stability.

If you want to go that route, I'd save the current bios, and switch to manual and proceed from there. There are many templates at the begining, as well as throughout the thread. Goodluck, and :welcome:

[Zucker2k]

Lol yeah he was like "are you going to break my balls if this doesn't work?" n I said "no hun, wouldn't want to break those as well, can't live without both my pleasurers machine OR man" :rofl:

~Bex

:ROTF:

[Michowski]

So basically im just trying to get the lowest voltage for everything listed and have it stable then, correct? I went into the hardware moniter and wrote down all the voltages of everything, so now just put those numbers in manually in the xtreme tweaker for each of them?

[Michowski]

Well if it ain't broke. don't fix it. My only problem is that your NB voltage seems a bit high for that overclock, but then you'll have to resort to manual to set it youself and since you're new to overclocking, you'll be opening a can of worms since manual overclocking usually involves changing all the vital settings to accomplish total stability.

If you want to go that route, I'd save the current bios, and switch to manual and proceed from there. There are many templates at the begining, as well as throughout the thread. Goodluck, and :welcome:

I put my nb voltage to 1.55 now. It was running at 1.584v on auto. I also put my cpu pll to 1.5v instead of 1.6. Running occt now and so far its all good. I hit 62c with core temp for my cpu, havent seen it go higher yet.

[Eastcoasthandle]

The whole idea of increasing the PCIE bandwidth isnt because the video cards transfer 4GB of data each second EVERY second (standard speed), but because when the cards need a burst of data (stuff in the ram that didn't fit into texture memory), it will occur faster, creating less of a bottleneck to all the other data transfers that it has to do.

Agree or disagree? (http://www.overclock.net/3984147-post17.html)

Or should you leave it on auto for this board as Asus boards are known to scale the PCIe frequency?

[Zucker2k]

I put my nb voltage to 1.55 now. It was running at 1.584v on auto. I also put my cpu pll to 1.5v instead of 1.6. Running occt now and so far its all good. I hit 62c with core temp for my cpu, havent seen it go higher yet.Try 30 minute primes for each batch of lowerings. Have you tried lowering vcore?

[Grnfinger]

Agree or disagree? (http://www.overclock.net/3984147-post17.html)

Or should you leave it on auto for this board as Asus boards are known to scale the PCIe frequency?

I would agree
plus setting 110 gets another 500-800 points in 3DMark

[RobinL]

Few months i flashed my Maximus se to Rampage with the ES flasher. Is it now possible to flash the bios without the ES flasher? Or does i still need that ES flasher edition? Is it possible to get an high FSB with the maximus of Rampage formula about 600Mhz FSB+ or is this inpossible with these boards? Because if bought some of G.Skill 4GB (2x2048MB) DDR2 PC2 9600 CL5 4 GB, PC9600, 1200 MHz ram and want to get high fsb speeds on WC. Or wich other board is beter with that ram?

[Grnfinger]

Few months i flashed my Maximus se to Rampage with the ES flasher. Is it now possible to flash the bios without the ES flasher? Or does i still need that ES flasher edition? Is it possible to get an high FSB with the maximus of Rampage formula about 600Mhz FSB+ or is this inpossible with these boards? Because if bought some of G.Skill 4GB (2x2048MB) DDR2 PC2 9600 CL5 4 GB, PC9600, 1200 MHz ram and want to get high fsb speeds on WC. Or wich other board is beter with that ram?

No you dont need to use the ES AFUDOS you can now flash via the bios or widows.
Rampage or Maximus will not do 600FSB, or if it does I have yet to see it.
To run 1200MHz ram you dont need a FSB that high, 450 would allow for 1200 ram
if you really want 600 fsb then I would look at a Gigabyte

[RobinL]

And which gigabyte do you prefer? And how about maximus II? I don`t think using crossfire with high-end cards. For me its to much power consumption in 2D modus. Maybe i think about the biostar Tpower, but that bord looks cheap.

[Grnfinger]

And which gigabyte do you prefer? And how about maximus II? I don`t think using crossfire with high-end cards. For me its to much power consumption in 2D modus.

MIIF is a solid choice but highly doubt you'll see 600 FSB on it 550-575 is possible and I have seen it 565 stable.
Gigabyte EP45-UD3P will do 600+ fsb
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=205525

[RobinL]

Oke thanks for the good help :cool:

[Furiøùs]

OK guys im trying to get 460 x 8.0 (3.7Ghz) stable. It wont post for me! Here are my current settings for 410 x 9.0 (3.7Ghz) i want a higher FSB!

CPU Ratio Setting : 9.0
FSB Strap to NB : 266
FSB Freq : 410
Dram Freq : 1028
CMD Rate : 2N

Dram CLK Skew Chan A and B : Adv. 250ps
5-5-5-15

Common PFL : 07
All Pull-In Chns : Disabled

CPU Volt : 1.51250
CPU PLL : 1.50v (Overvolts to 1.60v)
NB Volt : 1.49 (Overvolts to 1.50)
Dram Volt : 2.02 (Overvolts to 2.12)
FSB Term : 1.40v (Overvolts to 1.45)
SB Volt : 1.075v
SB 1.5 Volt : 1.50v

Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL REF : 0.63x
NB GTL REF : 0.67x

Dram controller REF and all channel REF on AUTO.

The above is my settings that i currently use (410x9.0 for 3.7Ghz)

This is what i've tried for 460 x 8.0 ;

CPU Ratio Setting : 8.0
FSB Strap to NB : 333
FSB Freq : 460
Dram Freq : 921
CMD Rate : 2N

Dram CLK Skew Chan A and B : Adv. 250ps
5-5-5-15

Common PFL : 10
All Pull-In Chns : Disabled

CPU Volt : 1.51250
CPU PLL : 1.50v (Overvolts to 1.60v)
NB Volt : 1.49 (Overvolts to 1.50)
Dram Volt : 2.02 (Overvolts to 2.12)
FSB Term : 1.40v (Overvolts to 1.45)
SB Volt : 1.075v
SB 1.5 Volt : 1.50v

Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL REF : 0.63x
NB GTL REF : 0.67x

Dram controller REF and all channel REF on AUTO


It doesnt post, hangs on EN SETUP on my little LCD poster. Any idea's of what i should tweak guys? I appreciate it.

This is a Maximus formula flashed to a rampage. on the 0410 BIOS. i've tried the 0308 and i was had problems getting my performance level down and the 0410 let me get down to 07. Much better bios so far in my eyes.

[Grnfinger]

CPU GTL should be 0.67x
Might want to up NB volts to 1.51-1.53.
460 FSB and 266 strap, doubt it, 333 or 400 strap.
Drop the multi to 7 and see if it it posts at 460, if not likely you've hit a wall

[Furiøùs]

CPU GTL should be 0.67x
Might want to up NB volts to 1.51-1.53.
460 FSB and 266 strap, doubt it, 333 or 400 strap.
Drop the multi to 7 and see if it it posts at 460, if not likely you've hit a wall


The bottom settings are what i wanted to use for 460 FSB which is 333 strap for 921 on the ram.

I thought CPU GTL was supposed to be 0.63 for Q6600. ok so i'll try that. i'll lower the multi also.

Be right back. Thanks!

[Furiøùs]

Ok. Just tried it and still no post. so i guess it is a FSB wall.

Now my question is, HOW do i get past this wall? Is there no way? how do i do it

[Cold Storm]

Got some new ram. I used the Axe ram in it and The board liked it till a kit went bad. 4gbs in all.. Checked out, and saw that the Blue lines are now gone. If I throw any ram in it, red instance in Memtest. Even my new 2x2 sticks i got last night show it like that. But, white lanes is running good. SO, once I get my 780i board back from DOA, thanks Newegg, I'll be rmaing the Max to Asus.

As for you Fur.. Have you tried the pencil mod to the board?

[Allubz]

To update my situation.

I figured that if I might just exxagerate with all voltages and put some extremely relaxed memory settings I might be able to boot 4GHz+, and voila!

System specs recap:
E8400 C0 @ Scythe Infinity (1x 120mm, 1x 80mm push, 1x80mm pull)
Asus Maximus Formula Special Edition (1407)
4x1GB OCZ FlexXLC 6400 CL3 @ 1GHz CL5

4250MHz (8.5*500) achieved posted, booted.
Memory at 1000 / CL5

Idle: 30-ish degrees
Stress: 60-70 in no time!

DRAM Stati: Disabled
Ai Clock: Auto
TBooster: Dis / Rl 7

CPU Volt: 1.55
CPU PLL: 1.62
NBv: 1.61
DRAM: 2.3 (overvolts to 2.4 = rated spec)
FSB Term: 1.52
SBv: 1.050
Loadline: Enabled
0.63 / 0.67
DDR2 Controller REFv DDR2_REF
SB 1.5: 1.5


Anyone got input on this? It isn't exactly OCCT stable, but I'm not sure what the problem is (might just as well be the RAM not being stable at such high clocks or so). I'll look into more of it tomorrow when I get time.

Any comment is highly appreciated.


EDIT: even 9*500 does POST. No boot though

[Grnfinger]

Jeebus those volts are xtreme

For a 8400 @ 4.0GHz try this for a start, and up vcore only till you get it.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 471
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-941

CLOCK SKEW Normal both channels

DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [7]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.35 (start here and adjust)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.55 ( once chip is stable try to lower)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55 - 1.51 (start high and lower if you can)
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.30 ( you may need to adjust this)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

[loften]

OK guys im trying to get 460 x 8.0 (3.7Ghz) stable. It wont post for me! Here are my current settings for 410 x 9.0 (3.7Ghz) i want a higher FSB!

CPU Ratio Setting : 9.0
FSB Strap to NB : 266
FSB Freq : 410
Dram Freq : 1028
CMD Rate : 2N

Dram CLK Skew Chan A and B : Adv. 250ps
5-5-5-15

Common PFL : 07
All Pull-In Chns : Disabled

CPU Volt : 1.51250
CPU PLL : 1.50v (Overvolts to 1.60v)
NB Volt : 1.49 (Overvolts to 1.50)
Dram Volt : 2.02 (Overvolts to 2.12)
FSB Term : 1.40v (Overvolts to 1.45)
SB Volt : 1.075v
SB 1.5 Volt : 1.50v

Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL REF : 0.63x
NB GTL REF : 0.67x

Dram controller REF and all channel REF on AUTO.

The above is my settings that i currently use (410x9.0 for 3.7Ghz)

This is what i've tried for 460 x 8.0 ;

CPU Ratio Setting : 8.0
FSB Strap to NB : 333
FSB Freq : 460
Dram Freq : 921
CMD Rate : 2N

Dram CLK Skew Chan A and B : Adv. 250ps
5-5-5-15

Common PFL : 10
All Pull-In Chns : Disabled

CPU Volt : 1.51250
CPU PLL : 1.50v (Overvolts to 1.60v)
NB Volt : 1.49 (Overvolts to 1.50)
Dram Volt : 2.02 (Overvolts to 2.12)
FSB Term : 1.40v (Overvolts to 1.45)
SB Volt : 1.075v
SB 1.5 Volt : 1.50v

Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL REF : 0.63x
NB GTL REF : 0.67x

Dram controller REF and all channel REF on AUTO


It doesnt post, hangs on EN SETUP on my little LCD poster. Any idea's of what i should tweak guys? I appreciate it.This is a Maximus formula flashed to a rampage. on the 0410 BIOS. i've tried the 0308 and i was had problems getting my performance level down and the 0410 let me get down to 07. Much better bios so far in my eyes.

maybe try setting your strap to 333 or 400 and pick which ever will get you close to what you want 1000, 1066, 1081 or ? then set your nb volts, fsb term volts and cpu volts to auto and see if it will boot then check the hardware monitor to see what volts it auto sets it to if it boots and work close to them to start. i am guessing the nb volts set to auto will be in the 1.65 area but you may not need that,, more like 1.51 for that.. 1.56 real.. get the others close to what auto sets it at and go from there.. maybe keep your cpu and fsb term volts a little closer together.. my fsb termination is a little higher then my cpu volts at 3.61 mhz. my cpu is at 1.36-7 real and my fsb term is at 1.42 real.. maybe bump your ram volts up .02 if they are rated to handle it.

[Allubz]

As it seems the MF1207 doesn't allow flashing to really old BIOSes (0701) nor RF BIOSes with the 2.39ES utility

I had to:
MF1207 -> MF1201 (downloaded from topic start) (with the 2.39ES utility)
MF1201 -> RF0410 (newest from ASUS webbie) (with the ES2.2xES utility)

So if anyone's wondering why his/her flash isn't working, you might want to try the older utility.



PS: I'm using the Maximus Formula x38 Special Edition rev. 1.02g if it matters.

I'll post some stability stuff later.

[N3it1]

Quick question:If i flash my formula to rampage do i have to change chipset drivers?

[Zucker2k]

Quick question:If i flash my formula to rampage do i have to change chipset drivers?No.