The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[Grnfinger]

Just brickd my board

:banana::banana::banana::banana:!!!!!!!!

[kup]

With the socket slip or with a bios?

Don't worry dude, it's a perfect excuse to go for a Maximus Formula II with that 45nm! :D

[Zucker2k]

Just brickd my board

:banana::banana::banana::banana:!!!!!!!!

Just go Maximus Extreme and DDR3, it's inevitable. Might as well do it. That's where I'm headed myself; as my rampage's brilliant life got exterminated by a cold, unwelcomed shower. Grrrrr....

[Grnfinger]

Oh I was rushing a cpu swap and caught the socket pins with a coffee filter and now I dont think she will boot.
I have the board out and the pins straight now to test

MF Extreme is looking sweet tho

[ShawnTRD]

good luck

[Grnfinger]

Thanks guys but I guess luck is not with me, looks like I shorted something.
All the little led lights are showing green, yellow, and red all at the same time.
LCD Poster is showing CPU INIT and reset or power buttons do not work.
Called Asus and have my RMA so I'll ship it out tomorrow.
Tried to get cross shipping but she told me it was not available on SE board.
Now all I have is a lappy till I get a new board, and to make matters worse I now have to decide what boad to get to replace my MF SE.

[ShawnTRD]

Replace it why? If ASUS is going to replace it with another MF. You told them that you messed up the pins and there still going to warranty it?

[chawks2]

you cant use 308 on that chip

308 good for Q9450?

[Grnfinger]

Just go Maximus Extreme and DDR3, it's inevitable. Might as well do it. That's where I'm headed myself; as my rampage's brilliant life got exterminated by a cold, unwelcomed shower. Grrrrr....

Shower?? how did that happen



Replace it why? If ASUS is going to replace it with another MF. You told them that you messed up the pins and there still going to warranty it?

Now why would I tell them that?
All Asus needs to know is it wont post, but my point in a replacement is I dont want to wait a month for a new mobo, So if I grab a new board now I'm down for a few days and sell the MF when it comes in.
If I wait I'm down for about a month or so. I tried to get a cross ship but they wont on the SE so you know they dont have stock. So I'm stuck using my laptop or I suppose I could grab my son's A8N SLI Deluxe and pound the FX-60 but where would the fun in that be?


308 good for Q9450?
yes it will work very well

[The Nemesis]

308 good for Q9450?

Unless you have a unique board or Q9450, the maximus formula is not a good match for that chip. That is if your after more than 3400MHz prime stable. My board topped out @ 435 bootable. Same chip benchmarks @ 495FSB in a different board. I have a maximus II on the way now. This board is a dream for a QX9650. I bench mine @ 410 x 11 PL5:D

[ShawnTRD]

Now why would I tell them that?
All Asus needs to know is it wont post, but my point in a replacement is I dont want to wait a month for a new mobo, So if I grab a new board now I'm down for a few days and sell the MF when it comes in.
If I wait I'm down for about a month or so. I tried to get a cross ship but they wont on the SE so you know they dont have stock. So I'm stuck using my laptop or I suppose I could grab my son's A8N SLI Deluxe and pound the FX-60 but where would the fun in that be?


Thats what I though you would do is sell it. I did that with some GSkill Ram I had. Any ideas what MB to get? Staying with DDR2?

[0ut0fstep]

Probably a little late for this but I havent read these forums since about post 239... I see some people having a hard time removing thier NB/SB there is a real real easy simple method.

Grab yourself a chair prop your board up on it surround the northbridge with a towel and turn a can of canned air upside down and spray back and forth for about 45 seconds. see pic.

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/8538/p1030444pn1.jpg
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Then use the blue memory slot for leverage to pop it off easily

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/2711/p1030441fr1.jpg
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Make sure the copper peice is release from the southbrige by just pulling up and bending it a bit

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/3337/p1030445pc3.jpg
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Wipe condensation off the back of the board

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/3530/p1030449cv4.jpg
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Do the same thing for the southbridge chip and pop it off if you want to remove it.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1010/p1030447xc0.jpg
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Hope this helps some...

[Utnorris]

Unless you have a unique board or Q9450, the maximus formula is not a good match for that chip. That is if your after more than 3400MHz prime stable. My board topped out @ 435 bootable. Same chip benchmarks @ 495FSB in a different board. I have a maximus II on the way now. This board is a dream for a QX9650. I bench mine @ 410 x 11 PL5:D

Are you saying it doesn't do well with 45nm? I have a QX9650 and a Blitz currently and can hit either 10x400 or 9x450 without much tweaking. I figured the Maximus would do better than the Blitz, is this not the case?
Thanks,
Utnorris

[Utnorris]

Probably a little late for this but I havent read these forums since about post 239... I see some people having a hard time removing thier NB/SB there is a real real easy simple method.

Grab yourself a chair prop your board up on it surround the northbridge with a towel and turn a can of canned air upside down and spray back and forth for about 45 seconds. see pic.

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/8538/p1030444pn1.jpg
By turboz22l (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/turboz22l), shot with DMC-FX3 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=DMC-FX3&make=Panasonic) at 2008-08-18

Then use the blue memory slot for leverage to pop it off easily

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/2711/p1030441fr1.jpg
By turboz22l (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/turboz22l), shot with DMC-FX3 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=DMC-FX3&make=Panasonic) at 2008-08-18

Make sure the copper peice is release from the southbrige by just pulling up and bending it a bit

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/3337/p1030445pc3.jpg
By turboz22l (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/turboz22l), shot with DMC-FX3 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=DMC-FX3&make=Panasonic) at 2008-08-18

Wipe condensation off the back of the board

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/3530/p1030449cv4.jpg
By turboz22l (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/turboz22l), shot with DMC-FX3 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=DMC-FX3&make=Panasonic) at 2008-08-18

Do the same thing for the southbridge chip and pop it off if you want to remove it.

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1010/p1030447xc0.jpg
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Hope this helps some...

You can do the same with a hair dryer, just make sure you have gloves on. Push out the push pins and screws then use the hair dryer to heat up the heatsink, once it gets hot it will slide right off without having to use a screw driver or any other tools. Did this with my Blitz and so have many other people on this forum.

Utnorris

[The Nemesis]

Are you saying it doesn't do well with 45nm? I have a QX9650 and a Blitz currently and can hit either 10x400 or 9x450 without much tweaking. I figured the Maximus would do better than the Blitz, is this not the case?
Thanks,
Utnorris

With 45nm Quads, the Maximus Formula is best with a QX chip with unlocked multiplier. The x38 chipsets struggle to reach 450FSB with 45nm's. Mine won't do it even with my QX9650.The few that have had success don't quite mention the extreme voltages used to achieve it. My Maximus is used for benching with the QX9650 410 X 11 DDR2-1233 PL5. This (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=9) article explains things best as far as memory bandwith & performance is concerned.

[Grnfinger]

I can confirm this, my Q9550 wont boot past 425.
This is the first chip that my Maximus struggles with. Bios revisions do not help.
Dual cores clock well I have had a 8400 to 525 and 475 for my 8600.

[chawks2]

With 45nm Quads, the Maximus Formula is best with a QX chip with unlocked multiplier. The x38 chipsets struggle to reach 450FSB with 45nm's.

I have been contemplating the QX, but I just cant spend the money as football season is almost upon us and I need to support my gambling habit.:clap:

I disagree about the 45nm, everyone always says it's about the chip, but my E8400 got up to 485 pretty easily. 475 is my goal on the 9450, I'm pretty confident it can be done. My 8G Gskillz appear to have no issue running @ 1080 (possibly more, but I'm a chicken), now just finding the right PL/skew/vfsbt values.

Zucker, do you have your 9450 settings handy for your adventures?

[The Nemesis]

I have been contemplating the QX, but I just cant spend the money as football season is almost upon us and I need to support my gambling habit.:clap:

I disagree about the 45nm, everyone always says it's about the chip, but my E8400 got up to 485 pretty easily. 475 is my goal on the 9450, I'm pretty confident it can be done. My 8G Gskillz appear to have no issue running @ 1080 (possibly more, but I'm a chicken), now just finding the right PL/skew/vfsbt values.

Zucker, do you have your 9450 settings handy for your adventures?

45nm Quads is what I meant, 45nm dual cores are no problem. I've had my 8400 @ +500FSB as well on this board.

[chawks2]

45nm Quads is what I meant, 45nm dual cores are no problem. I've had my 8400 @ +500FSB as well on this board.

UGH. You're going to make me purchase a QX. Will post my settings once I get this guy stable. :D

[0ut0fstep]

You can do the same with a hair dryer, just make sure you have gloves on. Push out the push pins and screws then use the hair dryer to heat up the heatsink, once it gets hot it will slide right off without having to use a screw driver or any other tools. Did this with my Blitz and so have many other people on this forum.

Utnorris

You have a pretty intense hairdryer cuz i actually tried this and got nowhere.

[Utnorris]

You have a pretty intense hairdryer cuz i actually tried this and got nowhere.

Nope, regular hair dryer, just let the heatsink get hot and then it will slide off. The cold method works too, I just don't like using screw drivers to wedge off the heatsink from the chip.

There are some nice step by step instructions on this thread for removing the stock heatsinks using both methods.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=162085

Thanks,

Utnorris

[Grnfinger]

I have been contemplating the QX, but I just cant spend the money as football season is almost upon us and I need to support my gambling habit.:clap:

I disagree about the 45nm, everyone always says it's about the chip, but my E8400 got up to 485 pretty easily. 475 is my goal on the 9450, I'm pretty confident it can be done. My 8G Gskillz appear to have no issue running @ 1080 (possibly more, but I'm a chicken), now just finding the right PL/skew/vfsbt values.

Zucker, do you have your 9450 settings handy for your adventures?

I have had a 8400 which did 489x9 24/7, I also bought a Q9550 and it wont post above 425 on any multi. So to further my habit for high clocks I bought a E8600 it will post at 500x10 and bench ( altho not stable)
The Nemisis is very correct on quad core 45nm chips and the Maximus.
Zucker2k got his high 9450 clocks using a real Rampage not a hack'd Maximus.


And to add insult to injury my 3870X2 came today from Asus rma and I just sent the board in for rma:rofl:
Side note I will have a MF SE for sale in a few weeks:D

[Nunzi]

So whats the best board for the q9650 @450x9 4ghz only able to get 3.9 433fsb 1.3v

[Grnfinger]

So whats the best board for the q9650 @450 fsb

IMO P45 or X48
The P45 seems to get better clocks, I'm about to pull the trigger on a MaximusII. Just looking at the Rampage Extreme on the egg b4 I do.
DDR3 is looking nice but not sure if its worth the hassle of selling my Dominators and GSkill ram to off set the coast of going to DDR3.

[Nunzi]

I can get the maximus2 @ my local store.............. just want to be able to hit the 450fsb

GRNFINGER should i try the 0408 beta bios ?

[Grnfinger]

wont hurt any, I ran my Q9550 on 407 and there was NO improvement in FSB.

Just found out that a MCW30 fits the MFII NB very well, so looks like I'm going to grab the board.
Should be available for pick up in 2 days locally.

[Nunzi]

ok & Thanks for all the help Going to get the max2 I'll let ya know how it goes

[The Nemesis]

So whats the best board for the q9650 @450x9 4ghz only able to get 3.9 433fsb 1.3v


If you can find one and don't need crossfire, the abit IP35-Pro was benchable @475FSB with a 45nm Quad & stable up to 464FSB with safe voltages. Fry's had them on clearance for a mere $59.99:D

476FSB Benchable

http://img.techpowerup.org/080819/3DMark06 8800GTX@650-1026MHz Q9450 3.8GHz.jpg

Prime Stable 464FSB
http://img.techpowerup.org/080819/Q9450 12Hrs prime 1.30v 3.712MHz uguru voltage screem.jpg

[trt740]

Unless you have a unique board or Q9450, the maximus formula is not a good match for that chip. That is if your after more than 3400MHz prime stable. My board topped out @ 435 bootable. Same chip benchmarks @ 495FSB in a different board. I have a maximus II on the way now. This board is a dream for a QX9650. I bench mine @ 410 x 11 PL5:D

mine does 3.824ghz 24/7 with a Q9450 at 1.384v, and every chip I have owned is a monster in this board from Qx9650 all the way down to e2160.. Also turning off the load line calibration does seem to help stability as you get near the 45nm quads max fsb, it droops like hell but you can compensate for that. Does anyone have a link to why the load line calibration hurts instead of helps. I read it somewhere but cannot find it, with it turned on my quad would prime but at idle randomly crash.

[Utnorris]

Yeah, I am curious about the LLC issue also.

Utnorris

[The Nemesis]

Never bothered to disable it with the q9450 or the QX9650. I think I'll give it a go though. My QX9650 needed 1.424v to be 4GHz prime stable with it enabled. I'd love to see that drop about .05v

[trt740]

Never bothered to disable it with the q9450 or the QX9650. I think I'll give it a go though. My QX9650 needed 1.424v to be 4GHz prime stable with it enabled. I'd love to see that drop about .05v

that not very good at all mine needed about 1.36v to be stable on a Qx9650

[chawks2]

If you can find one and don't need crossfire, the abit IP35-Pro was benchable @475FSB with a 45nm Quad & stable up to 464FSB with safe voltages.


My IP35-Pro did very well also, but the memory latency/read/write values all took a larger than expected performance hit. Thus my dabble in this finely manufactured product.



Fry's had them on clearance for a mere $59.99:D


Can someone tell me WHY Fry's doesnt open up shop in NY? I'm sick of hearing these ridiculous deals and being unable to participate. :down:

[Utnorris]

Never bothered to disable it with the q9450 or the QX9650. I think I'll give it a go though. My QX9650 needed 1.424v to be 4GHz prime stable with it enabled. I'd love to see that drop about .05v


that not very good at all mine needed about 1.36v to be stable on a Qx9650

Yeah, I found it funny, like Nemesis, I needed 1.41 or so to be stable at 4Ghz. Then I disabled LLC and I now only need 1.4v idle and it drops to 1.38-1.37v with the vdroop under load and is stable. Go figure. I did notice in the bios I do have to set it to 1.45v in order to get 1.4v real, in my opinion that's a pretty big swing. Keep in mind this was on my Blitz, which is essentially the same board just with a P35 chipset, so take it for what it is worth. I am installing my Maximus today and will let you know what I get from that once it is up and running.
Thanks,
Utnorris

[Utnorris]

My IP35-Pro did very well also, but the memory latency/read/write values all took a larger than expected performance hit. Thus my dabble in this finely manufactured product.



Can someone tell me WHY Fry's doesnt open up shop in NY? I'm sick of hearing these ridiculous deals and being unable to participate. :down:

One word, Competition.

[Futastic]

OK guys I need help. My board won't boot up my CPU after I reseated my NB and SB heat sinks. I tried resetting the CMOS and removing the battery but no dice. The LCD Poster shows DETDRAM and stops at CHECKCPU and then cycles again. Does this mean my CPU is dead?

[Grnfinger]

OK guys I need help. My board won't boot up my CPU after I reseated my NB and SB heat sinks. I tried resetting the CMOS and removing the battery but no dice. The LCD Poster shows DETDRAM and stops at CHECKCPU and then cycles again. Does this mean my CPU is dead?

Remove the cpu from the socket, reseat it and then boot again it should sort itself out by doing this.
I had that problem once installing a Q6700

[Futastic]

Remove the cpu from the socket, reseat it and then boot again it should sort itself out by doing this.
I had that problem once installing a Q6700

Tried reseating it...it still does the same the thing. BTW the SB and NB LED flashes from normal to high to crazy but the CPU LED just stays at normal and then turns off.

[Grnfinger]

Tried reseating it...it still does the same the thing. BTW the SB and NB LED flashes from normal to high to crazy but the CPU LED just stays at normal and then turns off.

Oh boy that sounds like what happend to mine just this Monday night.
All the led's glow'd green, yellow and red all at once.
Reset would not work or power off, had to flip the switch on the PSU to turn off.
I would recommend a call to Asus tech support you might be looking at a rma:(

[Grnfinger]

OOOOOooooOOOOO

Looky what I got today
MCW30 bolts right on NO MODDING!

Can anyone confirm that the ApogeeGT can sit that way, I really cant see why it couldnt

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0036-1.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/DSCF0035-1.jpg

[The Nemesis]

OOOOOooooOOOOO

Looky what I got today
MCW30 bolts right on NO MODDING!

Can anyone confirm that the ApogeeGT can sit that way, I really cant seewhy it couldnt




I've always had mine mounted that way though in the case the board is upside down.

[Grnfinger]

I've always had mine mounted that way though in the case the board is upside down.

Thanks:up:

Now we see what my quad can do without the Maximus X38 limits.

This will be interesting to put your therory to the test, altho I'm sure your right as I have seen others with the same problem.

[The Nemesis]

can't wait to try it out. Now that I see how easy it was to mount the MCW30 I'm gonna have to try that. The board should push your chip much farther. My intentions are to test the performance difference between the two. I'm certain that the x38 memory bandwith is better @ the same clocks so I will check to see what fsb will be necessary on the Maximus II to match the Maximus Formula at say 400 & 450FSB. I'll also be doing an 8x8 vs 16x16 4850 crossfire comparison.

[Grnfinger]

Very good I will look forward to your tests, I'm going to run a side by side comparison myself once I get my MF board back from RMA.

I was very surprisd how easy it was to mount the MCW30, the heatsink pop'd right off with NO effort. good paste contact from Asus this time:up:
Now with some AS5 and a decent waterclock the NB should stay very cool.
People were reporting 40c idle on stock air.

[NBK]

Hi

Does anyone know why ASUS did this?

Thanks
NBK

[RCG_Bex]

Right well unfortunately I broke my CPU mount and I'm using an uneven setup so my temps are crap! (but hey ho - new kit next month!)

Had a quick play with mu E8600 and BIOS 407 and 407 hates my RAM big time :( However, I did get my E8600 rock solid @ 4GHZ (8hrs prime) with a 266 strap and stupid voltage! V1.19 and my CPU was rated at V1.25 when it ran normally :rofl:

Everything was set to auto apart from the RAM speed and CPU Voltage. Too lazy tonight.... As I said, when I did try anything else it hated my RAM. Always "DET RAM" when I changed anything else or used another strap. :shakes:

~Bex

[Grnfinger]

Right well unfortunately I broke my CPU mount and I'm using an uneven setup so my temps are crap! (but hey ho - new kit next month!)

Had a quick play with mu E8600 and BIOS 407 and 407 hates my RAM big time :( However, I did get my E8600 rock solid @ 4GHZ (8hrs prime) with a 266 strap and stupid voltage! V1.19 and my CPU was rated at V1.25 when it ran normally :rofl:

Everything was set to auto apart from the RAM speed and CPU Voltage. Too lazy tonight.... As I said, when I did try anything else it hated my RAM. Always "DET RAM" when I changed anything else or used another strap. :shakes:

~Bex

What brand of ram ?

I ran 407 briefly, it was ok for Gskill.
I had my E8600 up to 4500 but the temps were very high.
How are yours for 4.0GHZ ? nice volts btw:up:

[Utnorris]

Ok, so my windows skills seem to be lacking a little. I am having two issue, the first deals with the Rampage upgrade. When I run the HP USB file and select the drive then the files, it first warns me the files will be lost, I say "ok" and then I get the "media is write protected" error. I have checked the properties of the drive and there is nothing that allows me to unselect write protect. I can copy files to and from the drive with no issue, tried reformatting it and still nothing. I have tried two different drives and still nothing. Any ideas? Oh, and I tried running as admin. This is done from XP.

Anyway, my second issue is I cannot get the board to boot with 2 sticks of ram, I keep getting the "DET RAM" error. I use one stick, no problems. I tried adjusting the voltage to 2.1v which is what the ram rated for. I tried adjusting the transaction booster to 0 and relaxing a few of the adjustments, but still no go. I set the voltages to what I had on my Blitz, still no go. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Utnorris

P.S. I updated the bios to 1201 from 907 and got the same results.

[Furiøùs]

Yea, i got a Maximus Formula flashed to rampage (0407 bios) to replace my eVGA 780i mobo for my E8400. i have the chip at 3.91 with the FSB at 460 atm testing the 8.5x multiplier.

My question is, how is the 0408 Beta BIOS Grnfinger, any noticable improvements as in lower voltages on anything? Thanks! ;)

[KRich]

I've got an E8600 and am experiencing an odd phenomenon :D

Core 0 is P95 Small FFT solid at 1.28V actual for 4.5GHz, but Core 1 just craps out straight away, in under a minute.

It doesn't matter how much I up the VCore, but Core 1 just keeps failing.

I've tried different VTT and GTLs but dont seem to be getting anywhere.

I was using Rampage Formula 0407 and 0408 on my Maximus Formula and have even tried going back to MF1207 but no difference.

I've got everything else on Auto and have tried playing around with different voltages but the longest I've managed to get Core 1 running is a few minutes tops.

[Utnorris]

Well I got HPUSB to work on my Vista box. Still having the DET Ram issue though.

Thanks,

Utnorris

[The Nemesis]

Anyway, my second issue is I cannot get the board to boot with 2 sticks of ram, I keep getting the "DET RAM" error. I use one stick, no problems. I tried adjusting the voltage to 2.1v which is what the ram rated for. I tried adjusting the transaction booster to 0 and relaxing a few of the adjustments, but still no go. I set the voltages to what I had on my Blitz, still no go. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Utnorris

P.S. I updated the bios to 1201 from 907 and got the same results.

When I was using a QX9650 w/rampage bios I had the same problem with many different kits. Its usuallly a strap issue with certain configurations. Try setting memory to 1:1 and using highest strap (400 for me Rampage 403 bios). If u set strap to auto, depending on trp selected it won't boot. Also, you kinda have to leave trp on auto and record data until u find what works with your setup using memset to change the value. Trp 5-7 and in some cases up to 9 sometimes simply won't work. That said, as you lower trp it stresses the mch so you will have to raise nb volts to have stabilty. This is a fine board, but as you play around or tighten memory configurations to acheive best bandwith it takes more than just a little tweaking.


Yea, i got a Maximus Formula flashed to rampage (0407 bios) to replace my eVGA 780i mobo for my E8400. i have the chip at 3.91 with the FSB at 460 atm testing the 8.5x multiplier.

My question is, how is the 0408 Beta BIOS Grnfinger, any noticable improvements as in lower voltages on anything? Thanks! ;)

It's been my understanding that the 308 Bios yeilds the best memory bandwith.

[Furiøùs]

Really? how is the 308's stability? Currently trying my ram at 1105.. doubt it'll work but intelburntest is rippin away.

For overclocking ram, does turning DRAM Static Read Control on help or harm your ram OC?

Any opinions on setting the Dram REF voltages? there's 3 of em in the BIOS not sure what to do with any so left it at auto.

[Utnorris]

Ok, so some success on the many issues I ma having. First, I am now Rampaged, yeah baby!! Still having the DET RAM issue, was hoping the Rampage 403 bios would fix it, but it didn't. I will try those ideas Nemesis to see if they work. Also, on a high note, I got CF working, that was fun, but I had similar issues with my Blitz and CF, so I kinda knew what to do with that. Now if I can get the ram work we will be golden. I will report my solution once I figure it out.

Thanks again,
Utnorris

[Utnorris]

By the way, the stock cooling for the NB and SB are not that good unless you use a fan, just a note for anyone new. The fan took the temps on the NB from 55c to 40c, almost as good as wc'ing. :D
Thanks,
Utnorris

[Utnorris]

Sorry, one more quick question, I did a search and it seems that bios 907 was reading the CPU temp incorrectly, well I am using the Rampage bios 403 and am having the same issue. I also noticed it on the Maximus 1102 bios. I run coretemp, so it isn't an issue, but is this a common thing or do I possible have a bad board?
Thanks,
Utnorris

[The Nemesis]

Best read (http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208) for info on what's what. It's the X48 version but that's essentially a screened/binned x38 chipset. I'm using rampage 403 bios as well (typed 406 by mistake). I may flash back to the 308 since many feel it was the best.

[M-XXXX]

Is there any bios for formula that supports E0 stepping?

[Grnfinger]

308 is best so far imo, it offers best bandwidth and stability.
407 is required for E0 stepping
408 is buggy and my hardware dosent seem to like it much


Sorry, one more quick question, I did a search and it seems that bios 907 was reading the CPU temp incorrectly, well I am using the Rampage bios 403 and am having the same issue. I also noticed it on the Maximus 1102 bios. I run coretemp, so it isn't an issue, but is this a common thing or do I possible have a bad board?
Thanks,
Utnorris

Updating to the latest chipset drivers will resolve that, it did for me.
Post your bios setup DET DRAM is a PL/strap setting, set wrong. It can easily be fixed.
Home from work today, seems I'm ( cough cough) sick. Guess I'll have to toss the MFII together and see what it can do compared to MF

[Nunzi]

GRNFINGER........I have the max2, doing fine Hit the 450fsb x9 with no problems, still testing
Thanks for the info. let me know how its goes for u

[Lestat]

Is there any bios for formula that supports E0 stepping?

the 1207 bios supports FULLY the EO Quads.
the 1201 bios supported the Q9650 but didnt show the name Q9650 it only said a 3ghz quad core.
1207 bios works like a charm. i have notived ZERO difference in overclocking but now the bios, cpu-z and all other programs report the Q9650 properly.

also the 1201 did not report temps properly in the bios.
1207 reports cpu temps properly.

[M-XXXX]

the 1207 bios supports FULLY the EO Quads.
the 1201 bios supported the Q9650 but didnt show the name Q9650 it only said a 3ghz quad core.
1207 bios works like a charm. i have notived ZERO difference in overclocking but now the bios, cpu-z and all other programs report the Q9650 properly.

also the 1201 did not report temps properly in the bios.
1207 reports cpu temps properly.

Could you give me some download link? I only foun 1201 version and not 1207. Thank you!
Btw new E8400 E0 is stable at 4300 with 1.33V, and still testing!

[RCG_Bex]

What brand of ram ?

I ran 407 briefly, it was ok for Gskill.
I had my E8600 up to 4500 but the temps were very high.
How are yours for 4.0GHZ ? nice volts btw:up:

Adata extreme 1200

Screeny - as I said - my temps suck because I've knackered the mount... (lost a screw and 2 washers somehow)
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8289/e86004ghzpw5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Although saying that it does run hot - runs ~10c lower where as my E6750 ran ~40c average and ~70c stressed...

~Bex

[Furiøùs]

Well it should be 10c lower if you know about the 45nm chips and the 95c TJunction.

If you do, i apologize.
45NM Chips have a 95c TJunction and not 105c like many CPU Temp. monitors will read.. Not sure how they react to the new E0 chips, but my E8400 does.

I use REALTEMP by Unclewebb, here at XS.

[RCG_Bex]

Yeah no I know, I think I've got realtemp on here. I just use Coretemp for quickness....

~Bex

[Grnfinger]

I havent read it yet but apparently your wrong.
TJMax is 100c

http://intel.wingateweb.com/US08/published/sessions/TMTS001/SF08_TMTS001_100r.pdf

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=198687
XS thread
some of the interesting points
E8xxx and e7xxx processor TJmax is 100 degrees
Q9xxx and Q8xxx also have 100 degree TJmax
QX9770 has a TJmax of 85 degrees

Like I said I have not read it yet so if I'm wrong my apologies

[RCG_Bex]

Well if I use Realtemp my temps do indeed drop by 10c. I thought it was 100c too but some are indeed sayign 95c but just checked realtemp and it says 100 and is 10c lower so I'm going to go with that :)

~Bex

[M-XXXX]

http://shrani.si/f/23/Tv/29jfEExW/4350.jpg

Can somebody give me link to 1207 bios?

[Grnfinger]

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...rmula-1207.zip

[Furiøùs]

Ok well my 460x8.5 = 3.9 and 1105 on the ram with a 266 strap.

It fails intelburntest, but currently trying P95 and OCCT. i havent been able to get intelburntest to give me straight numbers on 5 tests at level 1 (maximum) before so im going back to the oldies. if this can run OCCT and P95 for 2 hours and then i'll play some games and we'll see what happens.

My ram used to be locked at 1000 on the eVGA 780i. now im at 1105. Amazing :clap:

Also, i have DRAM Static Read Control off, AI Clock Twister set to LIGHTER, and my timings at 6-6-6-18. Once this is deemed stable i will start tightening and starting with the static read control to enabled, and clock twister set to moderate hopefully.

Any suggestions of what i should try?

[Grnfinger]

Well if you cant pass linpack your not stable
That GSkill ram is what I would be looking hard at.
Mine overclocks like a dog bump the volts a notch or two and set Clock Skew to advance 250ps on both channels, that wont hurt bandwidth any but should stablize the ram nicely.

[Grnfinger]

Vista is installing now :D

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/RIG.jpg

[Furiøùs]

Yea well P95 and OCCT (P95 on BLEND and OCCT on RAM) have been running for 1hour and still going strong, while playing music and browsing web. Going to let it go for another 30min then i'll put your clock skew settings in and try it. Thanks for the advice btw!
Also, i cant push the ram voltage any further. its rated 1000Mhz at 2.1v and i have it at 1105 @ 2.21v so im pretty maxed on the DIMM voltage.

If you think of anything else please tell me :)

[Grnfinger]

Yea well P95 and OCCT (P95 on BLEND and OCCT on RAM) have been running for 1hour and still going strong, while playing music and browsing web. Going to let it go for another 30min then i'll put your clock skew settings in and try it. Thanks for the advice btw!
Also, i cant push the ram voltage any further. its rated 1000Mhz at 2.1v and i have it at 1105 @ 2.21v so im pretty maxed on the DIMM voltage.

If you think of anything else please tell me :)

My ram is rated for 2.1 as well I run in bios 2.12 the board overvolts .8 so that gives 2.20 actual. Anything less for my ram and it craps out.

Running @ 1080MHz 2.20 volts 5-5-5-15 Dram Static enabled and Twister to stronger PL7 I would fail memory test in mins.
Once clock skew was set to advanced 250ps rock solid!

[Furiøùs]

wow ok sounds like it makes a huge difference. its still going, but im about to cancel it out and try your 250 settings.

Yea i know about the board overvolting. i originally had it set to 2.1v so it was effectively 2.19v in BIOS so i ended up with 2.12v in bios and that equals out to 2.21v
Oh yea, i have PF at 15..

Ok i set Clk skew on both channels to 250.
Burntest running atm.

[Furiøùs]

Ok first number on Residual<Norm> is 1.547420e+008
2nd number is 2.575707e+008
3rd number is 1.141571e+010

Numbers are alot closer then they were last time, but i enabled Dram Static Read Control. In the BIOS it says that when it is disabled it might enhance Ram OC'ing abilitiy. have you noticed higher results with it disabled? Going to try it now

[Furiøùs]

Ok, i disabled Dram Static Read Control and the numbers are

6.592619e+009
2.880379e+009
1.044944e+009

See how off they are? Cant seem to get them good :(

[Barr3l Rid3r]

wow ok sounds like it makes a huge difference. its still going, but im about to cancel it out and try your 250 settings.

Yea i know about the board overvolting. i originally had it set to 2.1v so it was effectively 2.19v in BIOS so i ended up with 2.12v in bios and that equals out to 2.21v
Oh yea, i have PF at 15..

Ok i set Clk skew on both channels to 250.
Burntest running atm.

try setting PF to 9 and your Latencies to 5-5-5-15, I also use 2.00v here for my g.skill DDR1000 to run at 1066Mhz

[Furiøùs]

ok ram is at 912 atm with AI Clock Twister at STRONGER with PFL at 9. Dram Static Read Control enabled, Clock skews advanced 250ps.

Tried PFL at 7 but wouldnt post. hung at Det. DRAM
Still tweaking.

Passed 5 runs of IntelBurnTest at lvl 1 (Maximum)

[Grnfinger]

ok ram is at 912 atm with AI Clock Twister at STRONGER with PFL at 9. Dram Static Read Control enabled, Clock skews advanced 250ps.

Tried PFL at 7 but wouldnt post. hung at Det. DRAM
Still tweaking.

Passed 5 runs of IntelBurnTest at lvl 1 (Maximum)

Good to hear your making progress:up:
Keep us posted on your results
fyi Det Dram hangs are just a wrong PL setting for the strap your on

[Furiøùs]

Update

ram timings tightened to 5-5-4-12. going steady so far

[erocker]

I just had to jump in and say.. Grnfinger, that block looks like it was made for that board with the contour of the mount and the voltage hardware on the mobo. Extremely sexy looking!:up: I hope everything works as good as it looks.:)

[Barr3l Rid3r]

ok ram is at 912 atm with AI Clock Twister at STRONGER with PFL at 9. Dram Static Read Control enabled, Clock skews advanced 250ps.

Tried PFL at 7 but wouldnt post. hung at Det. DRAM
Still tweaking.

Passed 5 runs of IntelBurnTest at lvl 1 (Maximum)

now try to disable static read control and set AI clock twister to ligh to find out if u can increase some Mhz

[Furiøùs]

Nah, not worth it. i cant just increase the Mhz anyway. im not going to raise the strap to get a higher ram speed. Im at a 333 strap, the next step is 1105 and thats proven unstable. 1153 is 266strap lowest setting. Im fine with 912 as i can make the timings so tight its insane. 5-4-4-12 is stable so far. going for 4-4-4-12. if thats stable i'll try to further lower them.
I lowered my common performance level even further to 8. im going to try 6 in a bit once i get 4-4-4-12 and we'll see. REALLY impressed with this board and the way it handles my ram. 780i sucks compared to this.

Ok, another update.

5-4-4-12 proven stable. Moved on to bumping the FSB to 465 equaling to 3.96 on the CPU and 931 on the ram. .06 extra Mhz on the CPU and 10 extra Mhz on the RAM and i didnt have to touch any voltages. VERY happy :)

[Grnfinger]

I just had to jump in and say.. Grnfinger, that block looks like it was made for that board with the contour of the mount and the voltage hardware on the mobo. Extremely sexy looking!:up: I hope everything works as good as it looks.:)

Thanks

So far I'm pleased, with the Maximus I could not boot my Q9550 at anyhing higher than 425FSB.
Now I have booted at 450FSB:bounces:

Priming now but I keep getting random cores failing:shrug:

[Lestat]

Well it should be 10c lower if you know about the 45nm chips and the 95c TJunction.

If you do, i apologize.
45NM Chips have a 95c TJunction and not 105c like many CPU Temp. monitors will read.. Not sure how they react to the new E0 chips, but my E8400 does.

I use REALTEMP by Unclewebb, here at XS.

no those temps are about correct.
dont sit here for one minute and think that just because of those low volts that the temps AUTOMATICALLY = low thats 100% false.
4ghz on air just the GHZ alone,, that will give you temps about in that range...

the 10deg was only for the early E8xx chips.
i have not seen anything about bad temps with the new ones.

[Lestat]

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...rmula-1207.zip

you guys did this the last time you posted a link.. learn how to post links please

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/

you see the ... in the address... wrong...

[Grnfinger]

you guys did this the last time you posted a link.. learn how to post links please

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/

you see the ... in the address... wrong...

you click the link and it works...whats the problem?
The better comment is ....people need to search threads and stop being so lazy.

[Lestat]

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...rmula-1207.zip

you guys did this the last time you posted a link..
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/

you see the ... in the address even when you click on it... wrong... tsk tsk tsk

[Lestat]

you click the link and it works...whats the problem?
The better comment is ....people need to search threads and stop being so lazy.

you click on my link it works.. not yours
the link you see in my post is my link not yours

[Grnfinger]

you click on my link it works.. not yours
the link you see in my post is my link not yours

ooops my bad
I searched the thread earlier for the link and copied and pasted in a hurry.
Sorry

[Utnorris]

Yeah, the Apogee GT looks like it was made for that board.

Anyway, after a day and half of fighting with the board I came to the conclusion it may be defective, probably why it was returned. Anyway, I put my Blitz back in and now I have both sticks running and I am able to oc my chip to 4Ghz with little effort, got to love when things go right. So, that being said, thanks everyone for the help, unfortunately the Maximus just isn't for me. Even with all the great info in this thread I kept hitting a wall and I just don't have the time to mess with it anymore.
Again, thanks for all the help,
Utnorris

[Barr3l Rid3r]

408 is sweet:


http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/341/vantageslc1.jpg

[jorgito05]

Check these results http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=195122&highlight=rampage

[Grnfinger]

Really liking the Maximus II

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/3dmark-1.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/3825.jpg

[Furiøùs]

Nice! im running 3.92 @ 460FSB. Computer never felt so fast :)

Could you share your exact memory settings breakdown?
Mine are:

Memory Speed @ 912 (5-4-4-12) 2T Command Rate (1:1 Ratio)
Clock Skews @ Advanced 250ps
DRAM Static Control Read : Enabled
AI Clock Twister : STRONGER
Common Performance Level : 8

This is on a Maximus / Rampage Formula running the 0308 BIOS.

[RCG_Bex]

407 is really fussy for me. Have to set my RAM timings manaully on all straps to be able to use the 1st RAM speed. If I use the 2nd higher speed, I can leave it on auto and boots no issues. Getting alot of blue screens but now that I'm doing it manually it's not giving RAM errors etc...

Don't know if it's worth trying 408 - think it just hates me end off - 308 was so nice.... why can't it have nice E8600 support :'(

~Bex

[Furiøùs]

0408 BIOS has given decent stability to a couple of people in this thread.
I love the 0308. By the time i get my E8400 E0 stepping chip they'll be 2 more bios releases

[askimo]

Can somebody point me to the right direction to find the best bios config to setup 4x1GB of memory ram?

[Grnfinger]

Can somebody point me to the right direction to find the best bios config to setup 4x1GB of memory ram?

post your current settings

[RCG_Bex]

0408 BIOS has given decent stability to a couple of people in this thread.
I love the 0308. By the time i get my E8400 E0 stepping chip they'll be 2 more bios releases

Hmmm might give it a go in that case... aalthough saying that 407 + 266 strap = stupid voltages - like less than the stock which is always nice - now if I can just workout how to get the RAM going on the tighter settings and lower mhz ratings then I'll be laughing. So far it only likes to boot with the 2nd options...

~Bex

[Furiøùs]

Hey man, just write the settings down on a piece of paper, flash to the 0408 and see what happens. Its not an all-day project so its nice to just test stuff.
If the 0408 doesnt help, go straight back to 0407 and do what your doing now.

[Grnfinger]

Hmmm might give it a go in that case... aalthough saying that 407 + 266 strap = stupid voltages - like less than the stock which is always nice - now if I can just workout how to get the RAM going on the tighter settings and lower mhz ratings then I'll be laughing. So far it only likes to boot with the 2nd options...

~Bex

266 strap dosent work well on high FSB

This new board continues to impress

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/9550_4000.jpg

[RCG_Bex]

400 * 10 + 266 strap works fine.
450 * 8 + 266 DID work on 308 E6750...
500 * 8 + 333 worked with my E6750 @ 907/308 but not tested yet because I've not got that far yet

Will try some settings again tonight on 408 and see how it goes

~Bex

[Barr3l Rid3r]

Hey man, just write the settings down on a piece of paper, flash to the 0408 and see what happens. Its not an all-day project so its nice to just test stuff.
If the 0408 doesnt help, go straight back to 0407 and do what your doing now.
I found 408 better then 407 here, its more stable

[_JP_]

I found 408 better then 407 here, its more stable

Here i think 0407 its better.

I have 490*9 with 400mhz strap and mems 1:1.

[askimo]

post your current settings

There you go

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: 1002
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 45
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Lighter
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level 9
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.45625
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.59
DRAM Voltage : 2.16
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

[faithful10]

Running 537 mhz here with following settings:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 7,5
FSB Frequency : 537
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: Auto
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15


DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [9]

CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50
South Bridge Voltage : 1.125
Loadline Calibration : Disabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

This is my 24/7 setting and is 100% stable. Running with bios 0308 atm since it gives most bandwith and is just as stable as bios 0403 i ran before. Will maybe give bios 0408 a try and compare benchmark with 0308

[Furiøùs]

Maximus / Rampage Formula -- 0308 BIOS

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 460
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 921
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 12


DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : STRONGER
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

CPU Voltage : 1.3875v(somethin like that)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v
DRAM Voltage : 2.00v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.63X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5v

[KALISPIMENTA]

Hey guys sorry the off topic.:)
When reinstalling windows to i have to install any drivers from asus or will windows do it?
Thank You

[askimo]

Hey guys sorry the off topic.:)
When reinstalling windows to i have to install any drivers from asus or will windows do it?
Thank You

Si señor, you have to reinstall some of the drivers, but not necessary from Asus, and all depends on what hardware do you have installed.

[The Nemesis]

Hey guys sorry the off topic.:)
When reinstalling windows to i have to install any drivers from asus or will windows do it?
Thank You

You'll need to install the intel chipset drivers, which will cover one lan I believe. The CD will cover the sound card and the other lan. The install CD doesn't quite have the lastest chipset driver but it will get u up and running. You'll also need drivers for your video card.

[KALISPIMENTA]

I was talking about motherboard drivers:)

[Grnfinger]

I was talking about motherboard drivers:)

See this post for the latest Intel drivers

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2996694&postcount=2

[KALISPIMENTA]

See this post for the latest Intel drivers

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2996694&postcount=2

I'm officially confused which ones would i download?

[Grnfinger]

http://www.station-drivers.com/telechargement/intel/chipset/intel_inf_9.1.0.1001(www.station-drivers.com).exe

http://www.station-drivers.com/telechargement/intel/sata/intel_msm_8.3.1.1001(www.station-drivers.com).exe

[zlojack]

Grn you've got 4GHz with your Q9550?!?!

Nice!

[mit78]

what is the good settings for q9450 and asus maximus formula bios ver 1207
at 3,6ghz?
thx

[Grnfinger]

Grn you've got 4GHz with your Q9550?!?!

Nice!

and damn near 20K 3DMark:D

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/3606_best.jpg


what is the good settings for q9450 and asus maximus formula bios ver 1207
at 3,6ghz?
thx

Your sig show's you running at 3.8GHz so just drop your FSB till you hit 3.6GHz, should be easy to do.

[KALISPIMENTA]

http://www.station-drivers.com/telechargement/intel/chipset/intel_inf_9.1.0.1001(www.station-drivers.com).exe

http://www.station-drivers.com/telechargement/intel/sata/intel_msm_8.3.1.1001(www.station-drivers.com).exe
TY:)

[askimo]

There you go

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: 1002
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 45
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Lighter
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level 9
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.45625
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.59
DRAM Voltage : 2.16
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

What can be improved in the settings above to achieve better performance from my ram & cpu?

[_JP_]

and damn near 20K 3DMark:D

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/3606_best.jpg




Dont know why but systems with Nvidia cards always does better cpu score :confused:

For example my 8800GTX with my old QX6700 @ 3.8Ghz I have more ~430 cpu points than you...

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=1826688

[Barr3l Rid3r]

I Don't remember how to run the 3D06 here, is says about a missing OpenAl32.dll Latest Vista64 2.18.00 Audigy2 ZS Driver and the openal installer... I played it before but don't remember now...

[_JP_]

I Don't remember how to run the 3D06 here, is says about a missing OpenAl32.dll Latest Vista64 2.18.00 Audigy2 ZS Driver and the openal installer... I played it before but don't remember now...

Go to C:\Progam Files (x86)\OpenAL and run the OALInst as administrator to install it.

This should work ;)

[Grnfinger]

What can be improved in the settings above to achieve better performance from my ram & cpu?

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: 1002
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level 8/7
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.45625
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.59
DRAM Voltage : 2.16
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50


suggestions are in bold

[RCG_Bex]

*bashes head repeatedly* I HATE THIS BIOS!!!! It's so frickin crap! Tried ll sorts of straps and voltages and it just goes "DET RAM" - the only 1 I can get to work and it's also 100% stress stable is this

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10.0
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1203
Everything else : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.2365 (I think that's right)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : Auto
DRAM Voltage : Auto
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

As soon as I touch anything else it hates me. I did at 1 point get the 1st memory option running (I'm using the 2nd option) but I needed to set the ram manually (even though it's the exact same settings as they are automaticaly) and set the ram voltages to something like 2.2v and even then although it got past without DET RAM error, it wouldn't boot, just blue screened. Went backa nd tweaked the rest againa nd again and again but nope, not a single boot out of any of it. :'(

This other thing that concerns me is that I've suddenly got an even bigger v-droop. I put 1.23... v for CPU and it's running 1.92v - it was the 1 below that I'm sure but if I use that it now says 1.16v :(

Any ideas?

~Bex

[askimo]

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.5
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: 1002
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level 8/7
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.45625
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.59
DRAM Voltage : 2.16
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50


suggestions are in bold

Tks I will give it a try tonight

[steve30x]

What ifference will it make to go from the formula bios to the rampage bios on this mainboard?

[kup]

If you had read even a few posts here you'd know the answer...

Generally it's lower volts for the same or better clocks, better ram compatibility and better overclocking...

Please people, read the :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing thread!

[RCG_Bex]

ROFLMAO! Well said Kup :)

~Bex

[Stanley Pain]

*bashes head repeatedly* I HATE THIS BIOS!!!! It's so frickin crap! Tried ll sorts of straps and voltages and it just goes "DET RAM" - the only 1 I can get to work and it's also 100% stress stable is this

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10.0
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1203
Everything else : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.2365 (I think that's right)
CPU PLL Voltage : Auto
North Bridge Voltage : Auto
DRAM Voltage : Auto
FSB Termination Voltage : Auto
South Bridge Voltage : Auto
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: Auto
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : Auto

As soon as I touch anything else it hates me. I did at 1 point get the 1st memory option running (I'm using the 2nd option) but I needed to set the ram manually (even though it's the exact same settings as they are automaticaly) and set the ram voltages to something like 2.2v and even then although it got past without DET RAM error, it wouldn't boot, just blue screened. Went backa nd tweaked the rest againa nd again and again but nope, not a single boot out of any of it. :'(

This other thing that concerns me is that I've suddenly got an even bigger v-droop. I put 1.23... v for CPU and it's running 1.92v - it was the 1 below that I'm sure but if I use that it now says 1.16v :(

Any ideas?

~Bex


What brand of RAM do you have? I had the same issue until I RMAd my Corsair Quads for a newer revision and they have been working beautifully.

[RCG_Bex]

Adata Extreme 1200 (2x 1GB)

~Bex

[Grnfinger]

Adata Extreme 1200 (2x 1GB)

~Bex

To much auto settings there, post your complete bios setup and we can tweak it.

ALL straps work on this board, any det dram hangs are incorrect ram setting usually a wrong PL setting, this is why auto is a bad idea, for you have no control on what the bios sets for a value.


If you had read even a few posts here you'd know the answer...

Generally it's lower volts for the same or better clocks, better ram compatibility and better overclocking...

Please people, read the :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing thread!


http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/Spit_on_Moniter.jpg

[RCG_Bex]

Right well after some tests running on auto (because it worked) I managed to tweak to the following settings to run 4500
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10.0
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266 / 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1258 (I think I'm wrong there) 1180 on 333 strap
Everything else : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.350 (I think that's right)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.64v real
North Bridge Voltage : 1.54 (again, I think I'm wrong here)
DRAM Voltage : 2.30v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.32 real
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: 1.5
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Anyways, it now at least boots at 4.5GHz but - during stress testing 1 core always cuts out :(

So..... anyone got any ideas or anything I could try?

~Bex

[Grnfinger]

Right well after some tests running on auto (because it worked) I managed to tweak to the following settings to run 4500
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10.0
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 266 / 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1258 (I think I'm wrong there) 1180 on 333 strap
Everything else : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.350 (I think that's right)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.64v real
North Bridge Voltage : 1.54 (again, I think I'm wrong here)
DRAM Voltage : 2.30v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.32 real
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: 1.5
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Anyways, it now at least boots at 4.5GHz but - during stress testing 1 core always cuts out :(

So..... anyone got any ideas or anything I could try?

~Bex


Set CPU GTL REF 0.63X
NB GTL REF 0.67X
FSBT 1.40
you might need a drop more vcore as well. but try the 3 settings b4 you add vcore.

[RCG_Bex]

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10.0
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1258 (I think I'm wrong there) 1180 on 333 strap
Everything else : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.4
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.30v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4 (1.32 real)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: 1.5
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : 0.65
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Still the same, core 2 cuts out and fails after 17mins :(

~Bex

[Furiøùs]

Haha... swapped my E8400 at 3.91 and running a Q6600 at 3.70Ghz stable.

Quadcore FTW. loving it right now, i was pissed if i was stuck at 3.6 but the chip is doing very well with 1.4875 in the bios with LLC on stable intelburn test 10 runs.

pwned.

[Grnfinger]

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10.0
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: 1258 (I think I'm wrong there) 1180 on 333 strap
Everything else : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.4
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.30v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4 (1.32 real)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: 1.5
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : 0.65
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

Still the same, core 2 cuts out and fails after 17mins :(

~Bex


Raise CPU PLL maybe to 1.55 and see if it takes longer for teh core to fail.
If it does leave PLL at 1.55 and raise vcore a notch or two, it should get the chip stable.

[panheimer]

furious
can you post your settings for q6600 @3.7 ghz please? i'm stuck at 455x8 and need some good advice for settings to use to get a little higher. thanks!

[Zucker2k]

266 strap dosent work well on high FSB

This new board continues to impress

Impressive, +.5 multi makes a lot of difference. Not too impressive on the fsb side, but who cares is you can get it stable? :up:

Just ordered another rampage today.

[Furiøùs]

furious
can you post your settings for q6600 @3.7 ghz please? i'm stuck at 455x8 and need some good advice for settings to use to get a little higher. thanks!


Im using 410x9 with 266 strap ram is at 1028 5-5-5-15. AI Clock Twister is Moderate. common performance level is at 10.

If i touch anything on the memory such as timings / clock twister / PFL i'll get BSOD loading windows or during stress testing.

Fast as hell :D

[zlojack]

Im using 410x9 with 266 strap ram is at 1028 5-5-5-15. AI Clock Twister is Moderate. common performance level is at 10.

If i touch anything on the memory such as timings / clock twister / PFL i'll get BSOD loading windows or during stress testing.

Fast as hell :D

With 410 FSB on that strap you should be able to get PL down lower than 10

[Furiøùs]

it blue screened at 9. i think its the quad

[CBird28]

is anyone else getting bsod with vista, to do with IASTOR.sys (intel matrix raid)

i have formatted twice, tried different matrix versions, nothings fixing it :(

[panheimer]

Im using 410x9 with 266 strap ram is at 1028 5-5-5-15. AI Clock Twister is Moderate. common performance level is at 10.

If i touch anything on the memory such as timings / clock twister / PFL i'll get BSOD loading windows or during stress testing.

Fast as hell :D

thanks! and what about vNB, PLL, FSB Term and GTL's?

[Zucker2k]

is anyone else getting bsod with vista, to do with IASTOR.sys (intel matrix raid)

i have formatted twice, tried different matrix versions, nothings fixing it :(

You can load updated iastor drivers during the initial install stage. Also, could be a bad oc.

[steve30x]

If you had read even a few posts here you'd know the answer...

Generally it's lower volts for the same or better clocks, better ram compatibility and better overclocking...

Please people, read the :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing thread!

I dont mind reading through a thread 99% of the time but this thread is 266 pages long. There was no need in being such a smart a*s about it. I just asked 1 simple question.

[RCG_Bex]

Raise CPU PLL maybe to 1.55 and see if it takes longer for teh core to fail.
If it does leave PLL at 1.55 and raise vcore a notch or two, it should get the chip stable.

Grnfinger you're a star. I was obviously using too little or too much PLL when I tried that before - came home after work today and it was still going strong.

I had some lol's with it earlier before that advice trying for 5Ghz - well - that didn't go well - told me BOOTMGR was corrupt, then on reboot, xx.DLL was missing, then "Windows has failed blah blah blah - please re-sinsert disk blah blah blah" and then somethign different again on another reboot. I was like, WTF? Rebooted on 4.5ghz and all of a sudden Windows booted magically :P

Anyways, played around with my V-core again and it's running stable at lower voltages which makes me happy :) Next goal, 5Ghz :D .....ok maybe 4.8Ghz bit easier)

~Bex

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger you're a star. I was obviously using too little or too much PLL when I tried that before - came home after work today and it was still going strong.

I had some lol's with it earlier before that advice trying for 5Ghz - well - that didn't go well - told me BOOTMGR was corrupt, then on reboot, xx.DLL was missing, then "Windows has failed blah blah blah - please re-sinsert disk blah blah blah" and then somethign different again on another reboot. I was like, WTF? Rebooted on 4.5ghz and all of a sudden Windows booted magically :P

Anyways, played around with my V-core again and it's running stable at lower voltages which makes me happy :) Next goal, 5Ghz :D .....ok maybe 4.8Ghz bit easier)

~Bex

Glad it worked for you:up:

[Furiøùs]

thanks! and what about vNB, PLL, FSB Term and GTL's?


1.49 on the NB, 1.4FSB Termination, and 0.67x on the CPU GTL and 0.63x on the NB GTL

[Barr3l Rid3r]

1.49 on the NB, 1.4FSB Termination, and 0.67x on the CPU GTL and 0.63x on the NB GTL


Try 1,41 in NB to see if it works... I run a 100% stable 530Mhz fsb using 1.39v...

[Grnfinger]

The only problem is you have you GTL refs wrong
X67 for 45nm c2d is to high, x63 is the correct setting.
X67 for the NB will allow lower volts

[Furiøùs]

i dont have the E8400 anymore. using a Q6600 at 3.7Ghz now hehe

[Grnfinger]

Impressive, +.5 multi makes a lot of difference. Not too impressive on the fsb side, but who cares is you can get it stable? :up:

Just ordered another rampage today.

It's been crazy at my house the last week or so, I havent really had a chance to find max FSB, I am hoping to get a few hours to myself and tweak the hell out of this board.
Still learning it tho, a few options I have to find out what they do and how to use them properly.

I was going to part with my 8600 but now I'm not sure, did a quick run with it on the new board and I hit 5200MHz not stable but I'm positive I could have atleast a 4800 if not a 5000 24/7 machine.

[freyesm]

Hi,

I need help with my P5E, I tried both Rampage 0408 and Deluxe 0205, in both I can go just until 435x8 (Q9450), anything after that, isn't stable at all on Windows.

I know some users here are on Q9450 with 3.6GHz or better, I want at least 3.6GHz.

Gradius

[The Nemesis]

Hi,

I need help with my P5E, I tried both Rampage 0408 and Deluxe 0205, in both I can go just until 435x8 (Q9450), anything after that, isn't stable at all on Windows.

I know some users here are on Q9450 with 3.6GHz or better, I want at least 3.6GHz.

Gradius


That's common some boards based on the x38 & P35 chipset simply will not go over 435FSB no matter what you do.(Well extreme voltages might force it) I have two P35 boards, one will not go over 435, the other does 475 3DMark & OCCT stable. My x38 board will not go over 435FSB at all. The x48 chipset reaches 450+ more commonly

[bmg]

After switching from the Maximus bios to the Rampage bios, will the OS redetect and reinstall everything, or is the bios switch pretty transparent to the OS? I'm guessing the OS will see it like a completely different motherboard, but I'm sure someone can tell me for sure.

[panheimer]

1.49 on the NB, 1.4FSB Termination, and 0.67x on the CPU GTL and 0.63x on the NB GTL

thanks again! this evening i'll try your settings to see if they works for me too!

[The Nemesis]

After switching from the Maximus bios to the Rampage bios, will the OS redetect and reinstall everything, or is the bios switch pretty transparent to the OS? I'm guessing the OS will see it like a completely different motherboard, but I'm sure someone can tell me for sure.

nothing as far as drivers changed from what I remember.

[les_paulde]

i dont have the E8400 anymore. using a Q6600 at 3.7Ghz now hehe

Nice overclock!:clap:

What voltage are you using on the CPU and which stepping do you have? I'm curious as it seems I've hit a wall with mine running at 3.7 @ 1.53V. I can probably still lower my Vcore a little bit but haven't gotten around to that and it idles at a nice 30-35C with the CPU only hitting 65C when I prime it with the full 4 cores... My FSB i've gotten stable to 450mhz on this board...

[HellasVagabond]

Guys whats the Latest bios for the Maximus formula ? Are we still at the 1102/1201 Bioses ?

Edit : I just saw the 1207 version...All thats left is for ASUS to make it available again since i cant DL it from their FTP.....

[Furiøùs]

1207 is the latest BIOS version for Maximus Formula.
Honestly, i recommend flashing to a Rampage Formula. 25-50FPS increases, lower voltages all around and honestly a better running board.

If you DO choose to flash to the rampage, i suggest the 0308 bios as long as your not running an E0 stepping chip. Great memory bandwith and high stability with this bios.

[Furiøùs]

Nice overclock!:clap:

What voltage are you using on the CPU and which stepping do you have? I'm curious as it seems I've hit a wall with mine running at 3.7 @ 1.53V. I can probably still lower my Vcore a little bit but haven't gotten around to that and it idles at a nice 30-35C with the CPU only hitting 65C when I prime it with the full 4 cores... My FSB i've gotten stable to 450mhz on this board...


Im doing 1.4875 in the bios with LLC enabled.

my stepping is a L726A880
1.2750 VID

I think i can get 3.8Ghz stable with 1.52-1.53 but honestly whats the point in putting that much voltage for an extra 100Mhz

[kup]

Im doing 1.4875 in the bios with LLC enabled.

my stepping is a L726A880
1.2750 VID

I think i can get 3.8Ghz stable with 1.52-1.53 but honestly whats the point in putting that much voltage for an extra 100Mhz

L726A854, 1.275v here. 3.7GHz with 1.44v. Give it a push, it's worth it!!! :cool:

[Furiøùs]

Hmm.. well yea i booted up this morning and was welcomed to a blue screen! trying to figure out what the heck is wrong right now, cause it ran perfect yesterday. i think the FSB termination is too low, and thinking about touching the CPU PLL

FSB Termination is @ 1.32v in bios whitch overvolts to 1.36v
CPU PLL is @ 1.5v in bios whitch overvolts to 1.6v

Thinking about bumping FSB Termination to 1.45 maybe higher and CPU PLL to 1.55 in bios (1.65 should be underload)

[Furiøùs]

Oh and one question. for CPU GTL Reference what should i set it to? i have it at 67x

[hkrack]

Hi, i need help!!!

I can not stabilize my system to 3.6. I want to help one and a guidance if with some setting wrong.

The computer starts the windows and then crash or restart.

Below my setup on the computer's signature:

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8.0
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: 1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Normal
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO

Write to PRE Delay : AUTO
Read to PRE Delay : AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay : AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay : AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronguer
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level 7
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.35
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
North Bridge Voltage : 1.54
DRAM Voltage : 2.14
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.42
South Bridge Voltage : 1.100
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO OR x.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO OR x.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

[Furiøùs]

CPU PLL is very high. at the lowest BIOS setting (1.5) it overvolts to 1.6v
So having it at 1.56 is 1.66v and thats really high, danger of burning the chip up quickly.

Im having the same problem as you, i get either a blue screen 0x000000240 or somethin or i get a auto-reboot. now i just solved it and i had to up my vCore. instead of 1.4875 im now at 1.525... damn :(

Im still thinking about raising the PLL to 1.65 possibly.. not sure

[freyesm]

That's common some boards based on the x38 & P35 chipset simply will not go over 435FSB no matter what you do.(Well extreme voltages might force it) I have two P35 boards, one will not go over 435, the other does 475 3DMark & OCCT stable. My x38 board will not go over 435FSB at all. The x48 chipset reaches 450+ more commonly

Well, P5E is x38 based.

However this is odd, since a lot are getting 3.6GHz with a Q6600 (on P5E), so 3.6-2.4 = 1.2GHz and I'm getting just 3.48-2.66 = 820MHz !

The only real difference I can see is FSB (1066MHz vs 1333MHz), besides 65nm vs 45nm (I get just 48C under full load and overclocked, it never goes above 48C).

Gradius

[_JP_]

Well, P5E is x38 based.

However this is odd, since a lot are getting 3.6GHz with a Q6600 (on P5E), so 3.6-2.4 = 1.2GHz and I'm getting just 3.48-2.66 = 820MHz !

The only real difference I can see is FSB (1066MHz vs 1333MHz), besides 65nm vs 45nm (I get just 48C under full load and overclocked, it never goes above 48C).

Gradius

You cannot see for the amount of overclock you get from the chip.

The real problem is the fsb limit in boards(chipsets), and sometimes cpu fsb limit...

With Q6600 you go to 3.6Ghz easy with 9*400...but for Q9450 you have to use 435*8 to have 3.48Ghz...
You have to use more fsb and maybe thats the limit

[RCG_Bex]

:D E8600 just booted @ 4.8Ghz!!! Little bit too hot a waterblock that isn't seated properly though >.<

1.48v so I think it's about par with what it should take. It might go with a little lower but not sure yet...

~Bex

[hkrack]

Hello, is the CPU GTL Reference or the North Bridge GTL Reference influence on the stability of over?



CPU PLL is very high. at the lowest BIOS setting (1.5) it overvolts to 1.6v
So having it at 1.56 is 1.66v and thats really high, danger of burning the chip up quickly.

Im having the same problem as you, i get either a blue screen 0x000000240 or somethin or i get a auto-reboot. now i just solved it and i had to up my vCore. instead of 1.4875 im now at 1.525... damn :(

Im still thinking about raising the PLL to 1.65 possibly.. not sure

[CBird28]

You can load updated iastor drivers during the initial install stage. Also, could be a bad oc.

is the problem well known then? when i turn on my pc in the morning from a cold boot, i get 3/4 bsods within 5/10 mins

reinstalled vista twice, and tried 3 different versions on matrix drivers.

its not my overclock as it does it with everything default


I wonder if its worth an rma, no doubt having to pay for the postage to send it back to me as there were "no faults"

[freyesm]

You cannot see for the amount of overclock you get from the chip.

The real problem is the fsb limit in boards(chipsets), and sometimes cpu fsb limit...

With Q6600 you go to 3.6Ghz easy with 9*400...but for Q9450 you have to use 435*8 to have 3.48Ghz...
You have to use more fsb and maybe thats the limit

Hmm, I guess I managed 440x8 now (3.52GHz). :yepp:

Btw, is normal Core #0 to get this hot?

After 10min on Prime95 test:
Core #0: 71C
Core #1: 65C
Core #2: 68C
Core #3: 65C

Gradius

[freyesm]

After 43min:

http://www.digitalanime.com.br/Q9450.jpg

So far so good. :up:

Before, a mere 436x8 would crash everything in couple seconds! :eek:

Gradius

[freyesm]

CPU:
http://www.digitalanime.com.br/cpuz1.jpg

MB (using P5E Deluxe BIOS):
http://www.digitalanime.com.br/cpuz2.jpg

Memory (using a single module for OC tests):
http://www.digitalanime.com.br/cpuz3.jpg

SPD:
http://www.digitalanime.com.br/cpuz4.jpg

Gradius

[Furiøùs]

Hello, is the CPU GTL Reference or the North Bridge GTL Reference influence on the stability of over?


Possibly. i changed the CPU GTL Reference after noticing it at 0.63x, so i changed it to 0.67x.

so my CPU GTL REFERENCE is 0.67x
and my NB GTL REFERENCE is also 0.67x

[Grnfinger]

is the problem well known then? when i turn on my pc in the morning from a cold boot, i get 3/4 bsods within 5/10 mins

reinstalled vista twice, and tried 3 different versions on matrix drivers.

its not my overclock as it does it with everything default


I wonder if its worth an rma, no doubt having to pay for the postage to send it back to me as there were "no faults"

This is an old problem and easily solved.
Your ram is NOT compatible with the board.
The only Crucial ram compatable is PC 5400, swap your ram out and I'll bet the problem is gone.



Possibly. i changed the CPU GTL Reference after noticing it at 0.63x, so i changed it to 0.67x.

so my CPU GTL REFERENCE is 0.67x
and my NB GTL REFERENCE is also 0.67x

Possibly???

It has a direct influence on stability so does CPU PLL

wrong gtl's and the chip is very hard to stabilize



Hi, i need help!!!

I can not stabilize my system to 3.6. I want to help one and a guidance if with some setting wrong.

The computer starts the windows and then crash or restart.


leave everything alone but the multi, drop it to 7x450 and see if it boots, this will eliminate a FSB wall
Post back with your results

[CBird28]

This is an old problem and easily solved.
Your ram is NOT compatible with the board.
The only Crucial ram compatable is PC 5400, swap your ram out and I'll bet the problem is gone.




Possibly???

It has a direct influence on stability so does CPU PLL

wrong gtl's and the chip is very hard to stabilize





leave everything alone but the multi, drop it to 7x450 and see if it boots, this will eliminate a FSB wall
Post back with your results

sounds good to me! not that i dont believe you but do you have any links? i googled all over and cant find :banana::banana::banana::banana:

[RCG_Bex]

*scratches head* So with the PLL, what is considered suitable for daily on this board then if 1.56 is high? All I've done is upped the v-core from my 4.5ghz settings and it's booted and running perfect. So far prime has ran fine.

~Bex

[Grnfinger]

*scratches head* So with the PLL, what is considered suitable for daily on this board then if 1.56 is high? All I've done is upped the v-core from my 4.5ghz settings and it's booted and running perfect. So far prime has ran fine.

~Bex

1.56PLL is not high anything above 1.70 for 65nm is bad anything above 1.60 for 45nm is bad.


sounds good to me! not that i dont believe you but do you have any links? i googled all over and cant find :banana::banana::banana::banana:

This argument has already been done, if you need conformation take the time to search this thread or do what I did and call Crucial , X38 and Ballistix ram = NO

[freyesm]

Got 440x8 stable (wasn't possible, huh?), with lower CPU voltage now, 1.304V from 1.336V. ;)

Temps never go beyond 60C now. :yepp:

Probably 440x8 (3.52GHz) is the limit on P5E with Q9450. Oh well, better than nothing. :rolleyes:

Gradius

[les_paulde]

This argument has already been done, if you need conformation take the time to search this thread or do what I did and call Crucial , X38 and Ballistix ram = NO


So is it possible this does not apply to the x48 chipset? I'm running PC8500 Ballistix tracers on my rampaged P5E deluxe and they run rocksolid, even on auto settings?

[RCG_Bex]

1.56PLL is not high anything above 1.70 for 65nm is bad anything above 1.60 for 45nm is bad.

Sorry, 1.56v in the BIOS so it's probably 1.66ish real. I'm still learning with this chip and BIOS. I think I abused my E6750 too much, but it was my first chip that I ever OC'd so it got slammed hard. Retired it to my LAN cube - I think ~6months @ 4Ghz has served me well :D

It's all on water and I'm about to re-do my loop with better cooling. So at least this time round the NB will have a real cooler :P

Debated whether or not to do the mosfets but not sure... maybe just get new heatsinks for them...

~Bex

PS. I just got 4.8GHz running on the 266 strap :up: Now it's stupid fast!!! Time to drop da voltages! :D

[Grnfinger]

So is it possible this does not apply to the x48 chipset? I'm running PC8500 Ballistix tracers on my rampaged P5E deluxe and they run rocksolid, even on auto settings?

yes you are correct x48 chipsets run fine
But some users have ran Tracers on X38 without issue as well.
about 6 months ago there was a member with ram issues after a few pages of arguments I took the time to call Crucial and spoke to a level 2 tech support.
He reported that X38 is NOT supported, the only Crucial ram "officially supported" was PC5400

[CBird28]

just ordered 4gb (2x 2gb)Corsair Dominator DDR2 PC2-8500

[RCG_Bex]

yes you are correct x48 chipsets run fine
But some users have ran Tracers on X38 without issue as well.
about 6 months ago there was a member with ram issues after a few pages of arguments I took the time to call Crucial and spoke to a level 2 tech support.
He reported that X38 is NOT supported, the only Crucial ram "officially supported" was PC5400

Yeah it was Renegade wasn't it? Thing went on for like 6 pages and every other week how he reported "dead ram again"

~Bex

[The Nemesis]

My 2GB Kit of crucial 8500 16F3's work but with just about everything on auto only. They are not stable either. Same goes for most my OCZ kits. Never knew there was a reported problem as I'm kinda a late comer to this board.(Picked it up @ Fry's for $145 clearance open box). At least now I know why I've had so much trouble.

[les_paulde]

thanks for clarifying that Grnfinger! I just ordered another 2x 1Gb set of the tracers as my 2Gb is just not enough (especially noticeable in Crysis), so I'm hoping all 4 sticks will run as fast and stable as just a single set. I just wanted to make sure that the general experience with the tracers is good with the x48 chipset before buying a 2nd set... Cheers!

[aussie-revhead]

Guys , what causes "cmos error" on the LCD poster ? Can an inadequate psu do this ?

:shrug:

[Levesque]

X38 and Ballistix ram = NO

Yep, exactly. A Crucial rep confirmed this to me and told me that Crucial Balliastix PC8500 are incompatible with X38 motherboards, and gave me a full refund on my Ballistix 4X1GB 8500. After 1 month of using them, I was getting random reboots and alot of problems, without any overclocking! :down:

Since then, I'm using Corsair 4X2GB (8GB) PC8500 and it's working perfectly, even overclocked! 8GB! :D

[Shiranui Gen-An]

Hmm, I didn't notice any problems with my 16FD5 Ballistix 8500 running on my Maximus, at 600MHz no less.

[Grnfinger]

Yeah it was Renegade wasn't it? Thing went on for like 6 pages and every other week how he reported "dead ram again"

~Bex

we wont name names :D


My 2GB Kit of crucial 8500 16F3's work but with just about everything on auto only. They are not stable either. Same goes for most my OCZ kits. Never knew there was a reported problem as I'm kinda a late comer to this board.(Picked it up @ Fry's for $145 clearance open box). At least now I know why I've had so much trouble.

I posted a link many many pages back where a member from OC forums had this Crucial problem, this is where my information comes from. Then like I said the disscusion turned into a argument so I called Crucial to put the matter to rest


Hmm, I didn't notice any problems with my 16FD5 Ballistix 8500 running on my Maximus, at 600MHz no less.

Like I posted above some ppl have had NO issues running Tracers on the X38 board

[By0T0xN]

Like I posted above some ppl have had NO issues running Tracers on the X38 board

I too have been running 16FD5 Ballistix 8500 on my Maximus since Feb. No problems here and I'm running a decent lil OC on them and the cpu. Now having said that I did have a lot of trouble with the single sided crap they were pushing on us back then. I wouldn't mind grabing some Corsair 2x2gb 8500's and seein what they could do for me.

[Vienna]

1.56PLL is not high anything above 1.70 for 65nm is bad anything above 1.60 for 45nm is bad.



This argument has already been done, if you need conformation take the time to search this thread or do what I did and call Crucial , X38 and Ballistix ram = NO

Ummm, with new single sided Ballistix, or Old dual sided Ballistix? Because I have the old school dual sided Ballistix O/C and etc running perfectly in my system, 4x PC 8500 Ballistix Tracer(Old School/Orginal Revision Dual Sided) since Feburary (the Ram is older, I've had the ram since July 2007 4x1GB) 2 Sticks 24Hr Orthos/Prime Stable at 630.1 MHz @ 5-5-4-7, 4 Sticks 24Hr Orthos/Prime Stable at 601.4 MHz @ 5-5-4-7, no clue on the voltages I have not touched my bios since March :P , I actually have been running at the 4 sticks at 601.4MHz 24/7 and my whole system, BIOS, etc(Ignoring GPU and HD upgrades) untouched since Febuary/March

Not to accuse anyone of anything but..... personal experance says otherwise

[steve30x]

After switching from the Maximus bios to the Rampage bios, will the OS redetect and reinstall everything, or is the bios switch pretty transparent to the OS? I'm guessing the OS will see it like a completely different motherboard, but I'm sure someone can tell me for sure.
Ive switched to the Rampage bios just now and the drivers didnt need to be changed. My system is a bit more responsive also.

[Grnfinger]

Ummm, with new single sided Ballistix, or Old dual sided Ballistix? Because I have the old school dual sided Ballistix O/C and etc running perfectly in my system, 4x PC 8500 Ballistix Tracer(Old School/Orginal Revision Dual Sided) since Feburary (the Ram is older, I've had the ram since July 2007 4x1GB) 2 Sticks 24Hr Orthos/Prime Stable at 630.1 MHz @ 5-5-4-7, 4 Sticks 24Hr Orthos/Prime Stable at 601.4 MHz @ 5-5-4-7, no clue on the voltages I have not touched my bios since March :P , I actually have been running at the 4 sticks at 601.4MHz 24/7 and my whole system, BIOS, etc(Ignoring GPU and HD upgrades) untouched since Febuary/March

Not to accuse anyone of anything but..... personal experance says otherwise

If you read my post it will tell you that others have had no issues running them, The ones running them with success seem to be the double sided original revisions you speek of and I should have stated that to prevent confusion,

[Draculea]

Hello all! Could someone give me some input over my settings?

CPU: 8400 VID-1.225 Water cooled
RAM: Mushkin 2x2 Gb 8500 (991599)
GPU: ATI Asus HD3870x2 WC no OC
MB: Asus Maximus Formula ( MOD Rampage Formula ) Bios 403
PSU: Thermaltake Quatro 850w
HDD: 2x Samsung 640Gb Raid 0
OS: Vista x64


Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.0
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: 1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Advance 250 or 300
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Advance 250 or 300
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level 7
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.45 - 1.432 CPU-z
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.02
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.2
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : x.65 tried x.067
North Bridge GTL Reference : x.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled ..........??????
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Boots fine in Windows. Can run any benchmark, no problems. Can run any game for hours with no trouble at all. Tried relaxing the memory settings, no go. PLL is as high as i would go. FSB Term makes no difference. NB Volts also none.

Any stress test will fail after 5-30 sec: Orthos, OCCT, Prime 95.

Thank you!

[RCG_Bex]

Gah, running 4.8Ghz an dit gets fussy... it was booting now it's not, and then it is and then it's not... I think it's just voltage that's the issue though.... tempted to try for 5GHz even just for the screeny (I'm pretty sure I'll never get daily out of it). 48Ghz seems do-able though, not too high - can get it booting ~ 1.45v - was stable at 1.48v but I think I've changed something else like a termination voltage because as I say - it was deffo working just not 100% stress tested.... Will have a play around with it later...

~Bex

[RCG_Bex]

Hello all! Could someone give me some input over my settings?

CPU: 8400 VID-1.225 Water cooled
RAM: Mushkin 2x2 Gb 8500 (991599)
GPU: ATI Asus HD3870x2 WC no OC
MB: Asus Maximus Formula ( MOD Rampage Formula ) Bios 403
PSU: Thermaltake Quatro 850w
HDD: 2x Samsung 640Gb Raid 0
OS: Vista x64


Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.0
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: 1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Advance 250 or 300
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Advance 250 or 300
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level 7
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.45 - 1.432 CPU-z
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.02
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : x.65 tried x.067
North Bridge GTL Reference : x.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled ..........??????
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Boots fine in Windows. Can run any benchmark, no problems. Can run any game for hours with no trouble at all. Tried relaxing the memory settings, no go. PLL is as high as i would go. FSB Term makes no difference. NB Volts also none.

Any stress test will fail after 5-30 sec: Orthos, OCCT, Prime 95.

Thank you!

Recomendations in bold, I'm sure Grn can help you more though, that's just what I'd try...

[ZenEffect]

hey grnfinger, did you ever rma your board and or got it back yet? ive been out of the country for the last month so im kinda out of the loop atm...

[Grnfinger]

hey grnfinger, did you ever rma your board and or got it back yet? ive been out of the country for the last month so im kinda out of the loop atm...

Asus has the board, just waiting for the Email of no stock.
Hopefully I can get a decent upgrade out of this.

[CBird28]

says on the crucial site that my rams IS compatible http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/mpartspecs.aspx?mtbpoid=998620C6A5CA7304

my new ram turns up on monday. If i still get bsod's after that, its gotta be the board thats causing it.

My Raid0 setup is now saying one of the drives has an error again for the 2nd time (after replacing the previous drive which had an error)

[Draculea]

Recomendations in bold, I'm sure Grn can help you more though, that's just what I'd try...

Seems more FSB Term improves my Orthos time to 7 min average.

Any new ideas where to adjust?

[GiN]

Hello all! Could someone give me some input over my settings?

CPU: 8400 VID-1.225 Water cooled
RAM: Mushkin 2x2 Gb 8500 (991599)
GPU: ATI Asus HD3870x2 WC no OC
MB: Asus Maximus Formula ( MOD Rampage Formula ) Bios 403
PSU: Thermaltake Quatro 850w
HDD: 2x Samsung 640Gb Raid 0
OS: Vista x64


Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.0
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: 1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : Advance 250 or 300
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : Advance 250 or 300
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level 7
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.45 - 1.432 CPU-z
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.02
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.2
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : x.65 tried x.067
North Bridge GTL Reference : x.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Enabled ..........??????
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

Boots fine in Windows. Can run any benchmark, no problems. Can run any game for hours with no trouble at all. Tried relaxing the memory settings, no go. PLL is as high as i would go. FSB Term makes no difference. NB Volts also none.

Any stress test will fail after 5-30 sec: Orthos, OCCT, Prime 95.

Thank you!

Try to put more dram voltage. My default dram voltage is 2.20 and i need 2.25 to get stable with rampage formula

[Lestat]

guys anyone running crucial ballistix that is single sidded ram (ram chips are only on 1 side) this has N O T H I N G to do with the motherboard.
this is 100% the fault of the ram.
crucial ballistix single sided ram is known to be bad. period end of story, no arguing about it. there are TONS of threads here about this ram and every single person using it is going to get problems when overclocking the ram and some at stock.

the one and only cure is to try and rma it and hope crucial sends back double sided ram, or ebay the ram or throw it away and get something else.

again the issues with crucial ram IS NOT the mobo or compatability, it is the ram itself.

this is 100% fact and proven many times in this very forum.

lastly the ram DOES NOT LIKE VOLTAGE. period. anything above 2.0v is going to make the ram go freaky weird.

random blue screens, random occt failures, ramdom memtest errors. (1 time its ok, the next time it gives errors)

get rid of the ram and your problems will go away.

the 1066 ram cant even run at stock because of these issues.

[M13]

Ok all you Formula x-perts, got a question for ya.

My MF board will not stay stable, even when running at total stock (auto) settings. Keeps reseting. At times won't even stay up long enough to change things in bios. Just resets. Sometimes it will even reset the bios to default. My question is: Could it be something other than the MB? CPU, GPU, a usb port? etc. or do I have another bad board... It's not the PS, tried one I'd trust with my life. It's not getting hot, everything is WC, and temps are great (everything less than 40c full load, GPU = 45c full load, room temps about 23c). Not audio, had onboard, x-fi, and nothing, still resets. Not ram, tried three different sets, slots, etc.

You need full specs I'll post them if you need em.

Please tell me I'm missing something really dumb... I really don't want to drain the cooling again...

[CBird28]

guys anyone running crucial ballistix that is single sidded ram (ram chips are only on 1 side) this has N O T H I N G to do with the motherboard.
this is 100% the fault of the ram.
crucial ballistix single sided ram is known to be bad. period end of story, no arguing about it. there are TONS of threads here about this ram and every single person using it is going to get problems when overclocking the ram and some at stock.

the one and only cure is to try and rma it and hope crucial sends back double sided ram, or ebay the ram or throw it away and get something else.

again the issues with crucial ram IS NOT the mobo or compatability, it is the ram itself.

this is 100% fact and proven many times in this very forum.

lastly the ram DOES NOT LIKE VOLTAGE. period. anything above 2.0v is going to make the ram go freaky weird.

random blue screens, random occt failures, ramdom memtest errors. (1 time its ok, the next time it gives errors)

get rid of the ram and your problems will go away.

the 1066 ram cant even run at stock because of these issues.

sounds good, finally my pc will be stable again as of tommorow when i get my corsair dominator 8500. cheers grn and lest

[Harvestor]

Hey where can I get the latest 1207 bios, the asus site only has up to 1201 listed.

[kwalker]

Hey where can I get the latest 1207 bios, the asus site only has up to 1201 listed.
here you go
ftp://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/MAXIMUS-ASUS-Formula-1207.zip

[Harvestor]

Thank you

[kwalker]

I hope you have better luck with that Q9550 than I did
the 1207 bios didnt help matters with the C1 revision 9550

[kup]

here you go
ftp://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/MAXIMUS-ASUS-Formula-1207.zip

Link is dead now?

[kwalker]

Link is dead now?

Thats Asus site for you
I'll try to fix it:D

[kwalker]

Site is swamped
try again later
heres the ftp ftp://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/

[kwalker]

Here's as far as I could get on XP Pro bios revision 1004 which lasted a few days before Vista 64bit spit it out :mad:
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/kwalker50/08-21-2008_19-28-23.png

the E7300 on the other hand just clocks:cool:
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa283/kwalker50/08-12-2008_21-41-46.png

[Furiøùs]

Ok all you Formula x-perts, got a question for ya.

My MF board will not stay stable, even when running at total stock (auto) settings. Keeps reseting. At times won't even stay up long enough to change things in bios. Just resets. Sometimes it will even reset the bios to default. My question is: Could it be something other than the MB? CPU, GPU, a usb port? etc. or do I have another bad board... It's not the PS, tried one I'd trust with my life. It's not getting hot, everything is WC, and temps are great (everything less than 40c full load, GPU = 45c full load, room temps about 23c). Not audio, had onboard, x-fi, and nothing, still resets. Not ram, tried three different sets, slots, etc.

You need full specs I'll post them if you need em.

Please tell me I'm missing something really dumb... I really don't want to drain the cooling again...

Put the LCD Poster on the board and see what it reads when its running through post cycles etc.

if you want, bend the USB port slot things out a bit so they wont touch the board and you have no chance of shorting something out.
Also, the CPU could possibly be throttling etc. maybe the waterblock is not mounted 100% ??

[nama]

hi guys am having trouble getting my maximus formula stable with my ram.
am at 3.6ghz working my way up and 400x9 and 450x8 cpu passes prime 12 hrs but nothing i change will get the ram past 512k. th most it runs is 1hr 10minutes...

am using g-skill 1066 2x2gb kit @ 1066 and 1080 and no go so far. tried 1:1 divider and same thing happened. tried both rampage and mf bioses same results. reflashing to 0602 to see how it goes but if anyone has any tips specially fsb and fsbt please help.

had my previous MF + Q6600 rig @ 3.8 @ 1200mhz with a pair of crucials tracers but my current rig isnt playing nice. am either missing something or i got a bad board from rma!!!.... tried a pair of tracer instead of my g-skill and crapped out large fft's too.

Q6600
Maximus Formula SE
2x2gb g-skill 8500 @ 5-5-5-15
600w OCZ Xtreme
Swiftech 220 compact cooling(cpu+nb loop)

note cpu is stable but ram stressing juss wont play nice @ 3.6ghz

[Lestat]

hi guys am having trouble getting my maximus formula stable with my ram.
am at 3.6ghz working my way up and 400x9 and 450x8 cpu passes prime 12 hrs but nothing i change will get the ram past 512k. th most it runs is 1hr 10minutes...

am using g-skill 1066 2x2gb kit @ 1066 and 1080 and no go so far. tried 1:1 divider and same thing happened. tried both rampage and mf bioses same results. reflashing to 0602 to see how it goes but if anyone has any tips specially fsb and fsbt please help.

had my previous MF + Q6600 rig @ 3.8 @ 1200mhz with a pair of crucials tracers but my current rig isnt playing nice. am either missing something or i got a bad board from rma!!!.... tried a pair of tracer instead of my g-skill and crapped out large fft's too.

Q6600
Maximus Formula SE
2x2gb g-skill 8500 @ 5-5-5-15
600w OCZ Xtreme
Swiftech 220 compact cooling(cpu+nb loop)

note cpu is stable but ram stressing juss wont play nice @ 3.6ghz

use a DMM to check for ram voltage fluctuations.

i would contact asus again also, they send out used/refurbed boards for rma unless its the 2nd or 3rd rma then they send you a new one.

just tell them that the same hardware and settings isnt stable anymore.

BUT

no 2 boards are the same, what you had before may not work now....

but if you cant even run your ram at stock then thats a good sign something is wrong.

[nama]

thanks, noted. i will do some further testing and see how it turns out. the nb doesnt like anything past 1.6. reboots after a while.as to voltages i dont have a dmm but i will find one and test. i think i got a bad apple back from asus. @ stock eveything is fine but when oc'd thing get icky. will post back findings.

[chawks2]

@ stock eveything is fine but when oc'd thing get icky. will post back findings.

If you're not having any problems at stock then the problem is with your oc/timings/temps/voltages/strap.

[Lestat]

If you're not having any problems at stock then the problem is with your oc/timings/temps/voltages/strap.

not really, it could easily be the board given that asus send refurb boards for rma, or the ram itself could just not be very good overclocking.

set the strap down low so the ram runs at like 800mhz and then start raising the fsb.

this will determine if the ram is the problem or not. given that yes you do have the voltages setup properly.

you shouldnt need 1.6v on the NB until you get over 470mhz FSB on a Quad.

400-450 only needs stock voltage to 1.45v (for 450mhz) on a dual core you really dont need that much until maybe 500mhz fsb.

[Grnfinger]

hi guys am having trouble getting my maximus formula stable with my ram.
am at 3.6ghz working my way up and 400x9 and 450x8 cpu passes prime 12 hrs but nothing i change will get the ram past 512k. th most it runs is 1hr 10minutes...

am using g-skill 1066 2x2gb kit @ 1066 and 1080 and no go so far. tried 1:1 divider and same thing happened. tried both rampage and mf bioses same results. reflashing to 0602 to see how it goes but if anyone has any tips specially fsb and fsbt please help.

had my previous MF + Q6600 rig @ 3.8 @ 1200mhz with a pair of crucials tracers but my current rig isnt playing nice. am either missing something or i got a bad board from rma!!!.... tried a pair of tracer instead of my g-skill and crapped out large fft's too.

Q6600
Maximus Formula SE
2x2gb g-skill 8500 @ 5-5-5-15
600w OCZ Xtreme
Swiftech 220 compact cooling(cpu+nb loop)

note cpu is stable but ram stressing juss wont play nice @ 3.6ghz

post your current settings and we can see if anything is wrong there.
I have the same gskill kit and they require 2.2volts for 1080 anything less and they randomly fail.



Ok all you Formula x-perts, got a question for ya.

My MF board will not stay stable, even when running at total stock (auto) settings. Keeps reseting. At times won't even stay up long enough to change things in bios. Just resets. Sometimes it will even reset the bios to default. My question is: Could it be something other than the MB? CPU, GPU, a usb port? etc. or do I have another bad board... It's not the PS, tried one I'd trust with my life. It's not getting hot, everything is WC, and temps are great (everything less than 40c full load, GPU = 45c full load, room temps about 23c). Not audio, had onboard, x-fi, and nothing, still resets. Not ram, tried three different sets, slots, etc.

You need full specs I'll post them if you need em.

Please tell me I'm missing something really dumb... I really don't want to drain the cooling again...

You will need to provide more information.
Hardware and bios setup please

[nama]

vcore=1.425( 12hrs small fft stress)
nb=1.45 longest run stable for large fft, max i can set without reboot is 1.59(1.6v bios)
ram passes 12hrs memtest @ 1.98(2.0vbios but have it @ 2.1v) @ 5-5-5-15-3-52-6-3
fsbt=1.4 bios set is the most stable so far, anything else fails in minutes
cpu ppl is @ auto = 1.6 bios read

450x8 @ 3600 cpu stable ram the most i can get it is 512k large fft's ie 1hr 10 minutes almost. if the north bridge is set higher it reboots at this very point. lower juss gives a rounding error. ram is @ 1081mhz @ the timings above also 8hr memtest stable

400x9 @ 3600/1066 no go for ram either.

as to temps from the previous post. my cores never go above 63c, cpu is 50-54c, nb=41max, sb=38, watercooled cpu and nb loop. plus 120mm fans blowing over the ram and mosfets

if it helps am using xp64 and prime95 64bit
2x2gb g-skill 8500 ram
Maximus formula se mb(from rma)
600w xtreme psu

temps are quite good considering its summer rite now in toronto.
and to the guy before i dont think its my oc but i might be wrong coz the north bridge seem to have a mind of ts own. i hope am wrong coz i hate rma's takes to long to get junk back.

i tried 1:1 but i needs more volts at the nb juss to post which leads to a reboot when priming ram.

the gtl stuff didnt seem to help so i left it at auto as i have done on previous maximus boards. i love the ram but it doesnt scale too well though i dont mind as i wanna keep it +/-1100mhz as this system iam putting together is for my video editing for school so i want it stable for use over the next yr or less if i get more cash..

[nama]

not really, it could easily be the board given that asus send refurb boards for rma, or the ram itself could just not be very good overclocking.

set the strap down low so the ram runs at like 800mhz and then start raising the fsb.

this will determine if the ram is the problem or not. given that yes you do have the voltages setup properly.

you shouldnt need 1.6v on the NB until you get over 470mhz FSB on a Quad.

400-450 only needs stock voltage to 1.45v (for 450mhz) on a dual core you really dont need that much until maybe 500mhz fsb.



i agree with the nb voltages. it just wont play nice tho. even at 1:1 once its past 400mhz fsb

[Grnfinger]

vcore=1.425( 12hrs small fft stress)
nb=1.45 longest run stable for large fft, max i can set without reboot is 1.59(1.6v bios)
ram passes 12hrs memtest @ 1.98(2.0vbios but have it @ 2.1v) @ 5-5-5-15-3-52-6-3
fsbt=1.4 bios set is the most stable so far, anything else fails in minutes
cpu ppl is @ auto = 1.6 bios read

450x8 @ 3600 cpu stable ram the most i can get it is 512k large fft's ie 1hr 10 minutes almost. if the north bridge is set higher it reboots at this very point. lower juss gives a rounding error. ram is @ 1081mhz @ the timings above also 8hr memtest stable

400x9 @ 3600/1066 no go for ram either.

as to temps from the previous post. my cores never go above 63c, cpu is 50-54c, nb=41max, sb=38, watercooled cpu and nb loop. plus 120mm fans blowing over the ram and mosfets

if it helps am using xp64 and prime95 64bit
2x2gb g-skill 8500 ram
Maximus formula se mb(from rma)
600w xtreme psu

temps are quite good considering its summer rite now in toronto.
and to the guy before i dont think its my oc but i might be wrong coz the north bridge seem to have a mind of ts own. i hope am wrong coz i hate rma's takes to long to get junk back.

i tried 1:1 but i needs more volts at the nb juss to post which leads to a reboot when priming ram.

the gtl stuff didnt seem to help so i left it at auto as i have done on previous maximus boards. i love the ram but it doesnt scale too well though i dont mind as i wanna keep it +/-1100mhz as this system iam putting together is for my video editing for school so i want it stable for use over the next yr or less if i get more cash..

I would suggest this for starts

Flash to Rampage bios 308.

for 450x8 on the 333 strap running 1080MHz ram

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Setting : 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
FSB Frequency : 450
PCI-E Frequency: 110

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1080mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A: Advanced 250ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B: Advanced 250ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

3rd Information
WRITE to PRE Delay : 14
READ to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Performance Level 7

Set dram volts to 2.12 in bios this will give you 2.2 actual.

That should get the GSkills stable and also give you rather decent bandwidth.
If your still crapping out then your NB volts are 2 low for 4GBs 1.49/1.51 should be the sweet spot unless you have a crappy board.

post back your results

[nama]

I would suggest this for starts

Flash to Rampage bios 308.

for 450x8 on the 333 strap running 1080MHz ram

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Setting : 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
FSB Frequency : 450
PCI-E Frequency: 110

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1080mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A: Advanced 250ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B: Advanced 250ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

3rd Information
WRITE to PRE Delay : 14
READ to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Performance Level 7

Set dram volts to 2.12 in bios this will give you 2.2 actual.

That should get the GSkills stable and also give you rather decent bandwidth.
If your still crapping out then your NB volts are 2 low for 4GBs 1.49/1.51 should be the sweet spot unless you have a crappy board.

post back your results


thanks, flashed to 308 last night after going through the thread and stressing 333 for 3ghz @ 1066mhz for the next 12hrs or so. when am done will try your suggested settings and post back. thanks again

ps.. any tips on fsbt? when i go past 400fsb it defaults to 1.55 at auto

[By0T0xN]

Hey guys got a question about running 2X2GB of Corsair 8500. For the life of me I can't get it to run stable. Sometimes I get DET RAM sometimes I get to my desktop but it locks right when everything is loading. I've tried upping the voltage to 2.2 but no response. I tried adjusting DDR2 ref and someother things but no help either. I ran memtest on them and they passed no problem. I am running XP 32bit. I'm going to upgrade to a 64bit OS in a month. So what am I doing wrong? What am I missing? Need help guys.
Oh I did try a few different bios versions to with the same results. Tried RF308, 403, MF 1102 and 907

[HempHog]

Here are my latest stable settings, I can not get my board to post past 440FSB no matter what I do, maybe someone has some suggestions? I get DET RAM of course, but no matter the PL setting, or multiplier on the CPU it will not post. These current settings will pass the intel burn test no problem.

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: 1133
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A : 150
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B : 150
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 70
Write Recovery Time : 10
Read to Precharge Time : 5

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO

Write to PRE Delay : 18
Read to PRE Delay : AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay : AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay : AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level 6
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled

CPU Voltage : 1.4875 - 1.440 CPU-z
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.28
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: 1.50
Loadline Calibration : DISABLED
CPU GTL Reference : x.63
North Bridge GTL Reference : x.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2 Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :OFF

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : DISABLED
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/227/84765913fc3.th.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=84765913fc3.jpg)

thanks for your input

[HempHog]

Hey guys got a question about running 2X2GB of Corsair 8500. For the life of me I can't get it to run stable. Sometimes I get DET RAM sometimes I get to my desktop but it locks right when everything is loading. I've tried upping the voltage to 2.2 but no response. I tried adjusting DDR2 ref and someother things but no help either. I ran memtest on them and they passed no problem. I am running XP 32bit. I'm going to upgrade to a 64bit OS in a month. So what am I doing wrong? What am I missing? Need help guys.
Oh I did try a few different bios versions to with the same results. Tried RF308, 403, MF 1102 and 907

try less voltage on your ram/nb, i was having the same issues until i lowered voltages. I only need 2.1 set in the bios to get to 566mhz with these sticks. i imagine I could do more, but not at my current pl setting. try my settings above for 425FSB.

[ZenEffect]

Asus has the board, just waiting for the Email of no stock.
Hopefully I can get a decent upgrade out of this.

good luck. i was hoping for the same email, however, i got a pretty good maximus back instead. hope it works out well for you too :)

[RCG_Bex]

Hey Grn - I spotted you got 4.8GHz stable - nice job! :up: I had 4.8GHz kinda stable but it's went mental again :down:

New cooling kit should be coming soon though so I should be getting the temps and stuff down :D

Made it to 5GHz yet?

~Bex

[nama]

I would suggest this for starts

Flash to Rampage bios 308.

for 450x8 on the 333 strap running 1080MHz ram

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Setting : 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
FSB Frequency : 450
PCI-E Frequency: 110

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1080mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A: Advanced 250ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B: Advanced 250ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

3rd Information
WRITE to PRE Delay : 14
READ to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Performance Level 7

Set dram volts to 2.12 in bios this will give you 2.2 actual.

That should get the GSkills stable and also give you rather decent bandwidth.
If your still crapping out then your NB volts are 2 low for 4GBs 1.49/1.51 should be the sweet spot unless you have a crappy board.

post back your results


yea so its still a no go, i think my board is a bad apple. rma'd it after some further trial. thanks

[Grnfinger]

Hey Grn - I spotted you got 4.8GHz stable - nice job! :up: I had 4.8GHz kinda stable but it's went mental again :down:

New cooling kit should be coming soon though so I should be getting the temps and stuff down :D

Made it to 5GHz yet?

~Bex

going to try for a 5.0GHz bench tonight or tomorrow, just got back form 6 days at the lake so I'm kinda tired.
Still like the quad better so far, if I can hit 500x10 and run the ram at 1200MHz :D:D

Dont think its going to happen but I will certainly try. New motherboard bios options are alittle new and have yet to find the time to test each option fully.

[RCG_Bex]

Glad you'd a nice little trip. I'll have a go too!

Btw - Asus got back to me - I'm getting a 4870X2 as my replacement cause I told them to stick their non reference overclocked pile of pish right up their arse! Lol they were like "omg! No on turns that offer down! What do you want!?" - Well guys, it's my bday in 3 weeks and I've wasted 6 months of this pile of crap - how about a 4870X2? - "Ok, done. Will arrive with you in 2-3 weeks" :rofl:

~Bex

[Grnfinger]

Glad you'd a nice little trip. I'll have a go too!

Btw - Asus got back to me - I'm getting a 4870X2 as my replacement cause I told them to stick their non reference overclocked pile of pish right up their arse! Lol they were like "omg! No on turns that offer down! What do you want!?" - Well guys, it's my bday in 3 weeks and I've wasted 6 months of this pile of crap - how about a 4870X2? - "Ok, done. Will arrive with you in 2-3 weeks" :rofl:

~Bex
Figures they had to have 1 in stock at the California facility for me, a 4870X2 would be a sweet deal even if I had to buy another water block.
My 10 day RMA wait was over today for my Maximus SE, no email.:shakes:
I hope to hell to get a nice upgrade but wont know till Monday now.
After all the hassle with my 3870X2 I will not be so damn nice:rofl:

[RCG_Bex]

Rofl unlucky - I'll need new water blocks etc but I don't mind too much. Hope you get something nice out of them :P

Btw - any advice on my maximus OC? I've got issues with my 4.8GHz not even being 3DMark06 stable, but I tried 500GHz for lolz na dwith a 333 strap, I get "Check CPU". On a 266 strap I get BSOD after the windows logo and startup sound with a ".DLL" error - so I don't think it's cpu voltages there....

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 10.0
FSB Frequency : 480 - 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333 / 266
PCI-E Frequency: 110

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-11**mhz / 1200 / 1250
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto (My ram likes 48?)
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

3rd Information
WRITE to PRE Delay : 14
READ to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.45-1.55v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.20v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
South Bridge 1.5v Voltage: 1.5
Loadline Calibration : Enable
CPU GTL Reference : 0.65
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

~Bex

[Moto450]

I just got a Maximus Formula two days ago and it was a DOG, I could not get it past 400 FSB until I flashed tonight to Rampge 0308 BIOS now at 1:1 X9 I'm at 470 FSB at 4230 MHz man what a BIG Difference these BIOS made :D I will play with it more and see how far I can push my E 8400.

[Lestat]

anyone done a MAximus bios with something like a Q9650 and then flashed with the Rampage bios and saw any better overclocking or performance ?

i really dont have any reason to change other than curiosity, plus the 1207 bios loves my OCZ PC9200 reapers, well,, under 1200mhz i mean. ;)

the main problem is no matter what i do i am pretty much maxed out at around 460mhz fSB... which sucks balls cuz i want to go higher lol.
i also for some reason can not hit 1200mhz dram. not with my gskill D9GMH or my PC9200 reapers. it jsut wont do it.
but my old P5N-E SLI can do 1200mhz easy, all day long.

[Grnfinger]

anyone done a MAximus bios with something like a Q9650 and then flashed with the Rampage bios and saw any better overclocking or performance ?

i really dont have any reason to change other than curiosity, plus the 1207 bios loves my OCZ PC9200 reapers, well,, under 1200mhz i mean. ;)

the main problem is no matter what i do i am pretty much maxed out at around 460mhz fSB... which sucks balls cuz i want to go higher lol.
i also for some reason can not hit 1200mhz dram. not with my gskill D9GMH or my PC9200 reapers. it jsut wont do it.
but my old P5N-E SLI can do 1200mhz easy, all day long.

I had no difference in clocks running my Q9550 on either bios, 425FSB was my max on any multi. Changing platforms was my best decison.
Rampage bios will problably get the 1200MHz stable tho.
Advance clock skew to 250ps / 300ps and relax timing a tad , I cant get my Mushkin ram stable on a regular Maximus bios not matter what I try but on rampage they will run at 1200mhz.



Rofl unlucky - I'll need new water blocks etc but I don't mind too much. Hope you get something nice out of them :P

Btw - any advice on my maximus OC? I've got issues with my 4.8GHz not even being 3DMark06 stable, but I tried 500GHz for lolz na dwith a 333 strap, I get "Check CPU". On a 266 strap I get BSOD after the windows logo and startup sound with a ".DLL" error - so I don't think it's cpu voltages there....



~Bex

Try a tad more NB volts and see how it posts

[HousERaT]

Anyone try the 0410 RF bios yet? Supposed to be better for memory.

[CryptiK]

I have read through most of this thread, as I was interested in getting a M2F. I am however seeing a scarily large amount of you with major issues, and what seem to be a large number of flakey boards. Also, when staying with the M2F bios, there seems to be less options than in my current P5Q-Deluxe bios - really important settings like PL (tRD), clock skew, memory channel delay/advance etc. The only way it seems like you can get these options on the M2F is to flash to the rampage bios, is this correct?

The M2F's also seem to be struggling hitting high FSB &/or running tight PL, have major strap issues, and have more ram problems than the P5Q-Deluxe's have. I can bench on my board at 570 - 590 FSB with only 1.26v vNB, but it seems the M2F could never pull that off. Most of you seem to be running vNB around 1.4v. There are also a few guys who have done 500 FSB on quads on the P5Q-D, whereas it seems the M2F can't do that. The whole reason I want to change boards is my current P5Q-D won't clock ram at 1200+ yet I have seen a few of you struggling to do that also.

What is the general consensus on this board? Are they worth the almost ludicrous price or are most of you regretting your purchase? I'd really like to know. Thanks in advance.

EDIT - Is it possible to set vPLL = 1.5 - 1.55v (real), and vFSB (Vtt) = 1.1 - 1.15v (real) on the M2F? I can do that on my current board and I don't want to run them above those voltage 24/7.

[Grnfinger]

I have read through most of this thread, as I was interested in getting a M2F. I am however seeing a scarily large amount of you with major issues, and what seem to be a large number of flakey boards. Also, when staying with the M2F bios, there seems to be less options than in my current P5Q-Deluxe bios - really important settings like PL (tRD), clock skew, memory channel delay/advance etc. The only way it seems like you can get these options on the M2F is to flash to the rampage bios, is this correct?

The M2F's also seem to be struggling hitting high FSB &/or running tight PL, have major strap issues, and have more ram problems than the P5Q-Deluxe's have. I can bench on my board at 570 - 590 FSB with only 1.26v vNB, but it seems the M2F could never pull that off. Most of you seem to be running vNB around 1.4v. There are also a few guys who have done 500 FSB on quads on the P5Q-D, whereas it seems the M2F can't do that. The whole reason I want to change boards is my current P5Q-D won't clock ram at 1200+ yet I have seen a few of you struggling to do that also.

What is the general consensus on this board? Are they worth the almost ludicrous price or are most of you regretting your purchase? I'd really like to know. Thanks in advance.

EDIT - Is it possible to set vPLL = 1.5 - 1.55v (real), and vFSB (Vtt) = 1.1 - 1.15v (real) on the M2F? I can do that on my current board and I don't want to run them above those voltage 24/7.

maybe reread the thread, there is no MIIF discussion here
this is Maximus Formula / Rampage conversion discussion

The MIIF is a superior bios to the Rampage or Maximus, better GTL's NB and CPU clock skew and PL 8 / 7 is possible if you have good ram, my gkills run 1133MHz PL8 and damn near break 10,000 read write and copy in Everest
MIIF wont over volt like the Maximus and Rampage. If I set 1.50 PLL it reads 1.50 in everest, dimm volts are the same as well as NB /SB volts. CPU will slightly droop but nothing insanely serious

Could you point me to the "scarily large amount of you with major issues, and what seem to be a large number of flakey boards" you saw cause I must have missed that

[CryptiK]

Holy crap, that'll teach me to do my research on new boards late at night! (it's 3am here) Sorry about that mate and thanks for politely informing me of my blatant idiocy lol.

Seeing as how you have one, do you like your M2F? Any major issues you're aware of?

[Grnfinger]

Holy crap, that'll teach me to do my research on new boards late at night! (it's 3am here) Sorry about that mate and thanks for politely informing me of my blatant idiocy lol.

Seeing as how you have one, do you like your M2F? Any major issues you're aware of?

Love the board much higher clocks with overall lower volts, board runs alot cooler than X38.
It is worth the premium imo, MCW30 fits the NB with no modding if your cooling with water,
No issues so far, bios 701 or higher eliminates the ram compatability.

Now go to bed and get some rest:D

[CryptiK]

Cheers mate and yeah, I'm off to bed right now :p:

[The Nemesis]

If I set 1.50 PLL it reads 1.50 in everest,

What version of everest are you using that correctly reads PLL NB etc? Thanks.

[Grnfinger]

What version of everest are you using that correctly reads PLL NB etc? Thanks.

4.50.1480 Beta.
I also have the newest non beta 1488 I think and it also reports correct volts
I will confirm this shortly.

[kup]

4.50.1480 Beta.
I also have the newest non beta 1488 I think and it also reports correct volts
I will confirm this shortly.

EVEREST Ultimate Edition 4.60 Build 1500 Final (http://www.lavalys.com:8081/everestultimate460.zip). :cool:

[The Nemesis]

EVEREST Ultimate Edition 4.60 Build 1500 Final (http://www.lavalys.com:8081/everestultimate460.zip). :cool:

Thanks, Had to spring $19.99 as my upgrades expired in July. Reads everything fine.