The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[jorgito05]

Someone help me with what I mentioned 5 postings up.

Please

[zlojack]

Someone help me with what I mentioned 5 postings up.

Please
You should try it in the Video Cards section. I don't imagine it has anything to do with your motherboard. Probably more a driver thing or something.

[faithful10]

Yes, i found out that i could run PL 9 at 533 mhz. It was another setting that day i had tried which had been wrong. I got a better everedt benchmark now and a really good latency i think for those 4 sticks:

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/320/533everest3ug8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Edit: i have posted a smaller screenshot.

[JH_man]

Yesterday I did 2 things with my comp; swaped the 8800gt out for a 4870, and updated everest from about 4.30 to latest 4.50 version.

I am seeing something a bit strange; both the NB and the SB looks to be hotter, definatly the SB at least. Now they are both showing same temps, SB used to be colder; about 50 degree C, and higher.

Can this be due to the new gfx card, or had everest a bug earlier? Yes its hotter now in the summer here, and yes I have set the gfx card fan higher then default to not fry it. I have checked inside the case, and it dont seem to me there is alot of heat comming from the gfx card INSIDE the case, most is vented out.

Any ideas?..

Edit:
Can it be a bug in the old bios I am using? If I should update, what version should I go for?..

JH_man

[RCG_Bex]

Nothing on hwo to help my little problem or if could someone help me work out what on earth my RAM is trying to do? (it's possibly the problem)

~Bex

[Grnfinger]

Nothing on hwo to help my little problem or if could someone help me work out what on earth my RAM is trying to do? (it's possibly the problem)

~Bex

Post your complete bios setup.
Test your ram @ stock with memtest
Once you can rule out bad sticks we can tweak the bios from there


Someone help me with what I mentioned 5 postings up.

Please

pull 1 card then the other to make sure they both work, you could havea defective card
Make sure you have the 6 pin connectors on BOTH cards.
Other than that reinstall the drivers

[RCG_Bex]

Post your complete bios setup.
Test your ram @ stock with memtest
Once you can rule out bad sticks we can tweak the bios from there

I posted previously - and it's not a bad stick - I meant I don't know what it's running at because if I tell it to run at a certain speed it doesn't boot but if I leave it on Auto it boots fine.

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 500 (510, 515 and 525 have been attempted)
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: Auto
DRAM Command Rate : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

CPU Voltage : 1.5875v (1.6 has been tried)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47
DRAM Voltage : 2.14
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.42
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.55

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

The RAM is Adata Extreme 1200

~Bex

[Cranox]

Does anybody knows where u can measer the PLL voltage on the board ?

[RCG_Bex]

I think it says atthe start of the thread does it not?

~Bex

[Cranox]

I think it says atthe start of the thread does it not?

~Bex

I cant find any posts where u can measure PLL voltage in this thread ( maybe i looked over it but i don't think so )

[mk_ln]

Hi, I was curious as to what drivers I would download for a P5E flashed to Rampage; would I still get all the drivers on the Asus site for the P5E or for the Rampage?

I have not yet actually set up the board yet, but am I correct in assuming that I will get better OC ability and stability if I flash to the Rampage?

Thanks in advance for any help :)

[Cranox]

Drivers are the same i think, i use the P5E.

[aussie-revhead]

Guys , does anyone have (or have had/tested) a Maximus Formula SE ? Does the factory water block do much ? Can I remove the water block and make a dice pot to mount there instead ?

:up:

[RCG_Bex]

Guys , does anyone have (or have had/tested) a Maximus Formula SE ? Does the factory water block do much ? Can I remove the water block and make a dice pot to mount there instead ?

:up:

I've got an SE with the original block. It's.... ok. Not great. I'm still debating whether or not to change it for an EK 1. I think I lack the confidence more than anything :(

If you click on the first page theres links to those who've removed the block etc.

~Bex

[Grnfinger]

Guys , does anyone have (or have had/tested) a Maximus Formula SE ? Does the factory water block do much ? Can I remove the water block and make a dice pot to mount there instead ?

:up:

It actually works pretty well once you reseat the block with AS5 or Ceramique.
I have a MCW30 and did not bother to mount it cause the block works well enough.
I run NB volts at around 1.53/55 and temps are 30 idle 38-40 full load.
Thats with CPU and GPU in the loop

[blogz101]

Hi can anyone post their rampage overclock setting with a q9450 cpu? i would just like to hit 3.4GHz? I have ocz reaper 1066Mhz 5-5-5-15 pc2 8500 ram.Thanks very much

[mk_ln]

Drivers are the same i think, i use the P5E.

thanks for the reply :)

[Barr3l Rid3r]

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/880/3d0648502vf2.jpg

Sweet, changed to Rampage bios and there is an 10Mhz stable FSB Bonus and a faster boot. all on air, look at Vnb and Vfsb preaty low...

[chawks2]

Excellent work above ^^^^. Nice chip!:up:

[erocker]

Running 4gb's of DDR2 1200 and I'm quite sure all is stable on that end. I got my Q6600 to 4ghz on my DFI P35 Dark, and I can't quite get it on my Rampage. Using 308 bios. I was using XP on the DFi and am using Vista on the Asus. I can get into Vista but Prime95 results in an immediate blue screen. I'd love any help on how to make this happen.:)

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : x9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge :
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1199
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : A
Row Refresh Cycle Time : A
Write Recovery Time : A
Read to Precharge Time : A

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : A
Write to Read Delay (S) : A
Write to Read Delay (D) : A
Read to Read Delay (S) : A
Read to Read Delay (D) :A
Write to Write Delay (S) :A
Write to Write Delay (D) : A
DRAM Static Read Control: A
Ai Clock Twister : A
Transaction Booster : A

CPU Voltage : 1.58 (real)
CPU PLL Voltage : A
North Bridge Voltage : set at 1.59
DRAM Voltage : 2.2v
FSB Termination Voltage : A
South Bridge Voltage : A
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : A or x67 or x63
North Bridge GTL Reference : A or x67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : A or DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : A
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : A
SB 1.5V Voltage : A

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

[kevinali]

Hey guys, its has been a while since i visited last (at least a week)

Anyway, i am contemplating switching to the Rampage BIOS 0403

I currently have the Formula BIOS 1102 and my Q6700 at 3.0 GHz (333 x 9) at a Vcore of 1.20V and the machine is very stable with 8 GB of DDR2-667 ram installed

I am not making the move to the Rampage BIOS for overclocking purposes, but really for the faster boot time it gives

I need your advice on sticking with a very stable Formula setup or jump to the Rampage BIOS for faster boot and perhaps some other added features???

Please give your sound advice

Regards

Kevin

[Grnfinger]

Running 4gb's of DDR2 1200 and I'm quite sure all is stable on that end. I got my Q6600 to 4ghz on my DFI P35 Dark, and I can't quite get it on my Rampage. Using 308 bios. I was using XP on the DFi and am using Vista on the Asus. I can get into Vista but Prime95 results in an immediate blue screen. I'd love any help on how to make this happen.:)

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : x9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge :
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1199
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : A
Row Refresh Cycle Time : A
Write Recovery Time : A
Read to Precharge Time : A

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : A
Write to Read Delay (S) : A
Write to Read Delay (D) : A
Read to Read Delay (S) : A
Read to Read Delay (D) :A
Write to Write Delay (S) :A
Write to Write Delay (D) : A
DRAM Static Read Control: A
Ai Clock Twister : A
Transaction Booster : A

CPU Voltage : 1.58 (real)
CPU PLL Voltage : A
North Bridge Voltage : set at 1.59
DRAM Voltage : 2.2v
FSB Termination Voltage : A
South Bridge Voltage : A
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : A or x67 or x63
North Bridge GTL Reference : A or x67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : A or DDR2_REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : A
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : A
SB 1.5V Voltage : A

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

Run the 333 strap and set ram to 1080MHz and retest to make sure the ram is not the problem if you still have BSOD your at your chips limit.
1.58volts on your chip is way to much for 24/7 use imo

[erocker]

Run the 333 strap and set ram to 1080MHz and retest to make sure the ram is not the problem if you still have BSOD your at your chips limit.
1.58volts on your chip is way to much for 24/7 use imo

I agree it is too much voltage for 24/7, but this is just for benching and it's on water. Like I said it did work with the DFi board with my RAM at 1200mhz. I've tested my RAM stable on 2.2v's up to 1300mhz so far. This leads me to believe that I don't have everything setup correctly bios-wise on the Rampage.

[RCG_Bex]

Mine runs 1.58v (1.56 real) and has done for a few months now. Tried to swap it over through teh PLL but I'm having no joy :(

~Bex

[Grnfinger]

I agree it is too much voltage for 24/7, but this is just for benching and it's on water. Like I said it did work with the DFi board with my RAM at 1200mhz. I've tested my RAM stable on 2.2v's up to 1300mhz so far. This leads me to believe that I don't have everything setup correctly bios-wise on the Rampage.

Well seeing as your majority of settings are auto I would agree that everything is not setup accordingly.
But regardless this is a different board so same clock are not a guarantee.
308 is definately the best bios so far it gives max tref value and is the fastest bios for bandwidth.

I will look at your settings and make some suggestions for you to try.
Will post them shortly:D

Off topic but how to do like your ICEQ card?
what kinda 3Dmarks scores do you get?
I have a 3870X2 on RMA with Asus and there dragging there ass on replacing the card....I can grab a ICEQ card super cheap was wondering if its worth it

[Amurtigress]

Hi people,

My rampaged maximus board is currently stuck at FSB 436 with a Q9300 processor. Since I am planning to get me a DDR3 supporting board I would like to ask here which chipset would be the best for a Q9 series CPU?

Is the X48 really a lot better than the X38 running a 45 nm quadcore? What about the P45 and nvidia 790i ?

Looking forward to hear some comments!

[erocker]

Well seeing as your majority of settings are auto I would agree that everything is not setup accordingly.
But regardless this is a different board so same clock are not a guarantee.
308 is definately the best bios so far it gives max tref value and is the fastest bios for bandwidth.

I will look at your settings and make some suggestions for you to try.
Will post them shortly:D

Off topic but how to do like your ICEQ card?
what kinda 3Dmarks scores do you get?
I have a 3870X2 on RMA with Asus and there dragging there ass on replacing the card....I can grab a ICEQ card super cheap was wondering if its worth it

Thanks!:up: My IceQ which i've now sold (running a 4870 now) was a great card. Never messed with voltage or anything and I managed to get this as a score for 3dmark06:
http://img.techpowerup.org/080730/13403.jpg
:)

[Grnfinger]

Hi people,

My rampaged maximus board is currently stuck at FSB 436 with a Q9300 processor. Since I am planning to get me a DDR3 supporting board I would like to ask here which chipset would be the best for a Q9 series CPU?

Is the X48 really a lot better than the X38 running a 45 nm quadcore? What about the P45 and nvidia 790i ?

Looking forward to hear some comments!

45nm quads and X48 are getting very good results
Cannot comment on P45 but the 790i is a decent board
Rampage DFI or EVGA would be solid choices, I personally would grab a Rampage.

[Amurtigress]

Grnfinger:

Sounds good to me, trouble is, the Rampage does not support DDR3 RAm, or did I overlook some model?

I found another board, the MSI X48C Platinum X48. It even comes with both DDR2 and 3 sockets. I have no clue tho about it's overclocking functions in the BIOS tho.

I'd love to stick to ASUS tho.

[Grnfinger]

Running 4gb's of DDR2 1200 and I'm quite sure all is stable on that end. I got my Q6600 to 4ghz on my DFI P35 Dark, and I can't quite get it on my Rampage. Using 308 bios. I was using XP on the DFi and am using Vista on the Asus. I can get into Vista but Prime95 results in an immediate blue screen. I'd love any help on how to make this happen.:)

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : x9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1199
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay :3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time :6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) :6
Write to Write Delay (S) :3
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

DRAM Static Read Control: A
Ai Clock Twister : A
Transaction Booster : A

CPU Voltage : 1.58 (real)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : set at 1.59
DRAM Voltage : 2.2v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : x67
North Bridge GTL Reference :x67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

My suggestions are in bold

[erocker]

Thank you so very much! I will give it a go when I get home!:D

[MarcusFoX]

My 24/7 Gaming clock.

Enjoy

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c333/AMphoto_1/E8400MFse.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c333/AMphoto_1/DSC00001.jpg

:)

[MarcusFoX]

My 24/7 Gaming clock.

Enjoy

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c333/AMphoto_1/E8400MFse.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c333/AMphoto_1/DSC00001.jpg

:)

[Grnfinger]

Come on is that the best that wolfdale can do
This is Xtreme Systems ........ lol

[Jazz]

Hey guys, want to flash a P5e Deluxe to Rampage, and wondering what BIOS to use?

[mk_ln]

it seems to be 403 being the latest non-beta BIOS.

[Zucker2k]

Grnfinger:

Sounds good to me, trouble is, the Rampage does not support DDR3 RAm, or did I overlook some model?

I found another board, the MSI X48C Platinum X48. It even comes with both DDR2 and 3 sockets. I have no clue tho about it's overclocking functions in the BIOS tho.

I'd love to stick to ASUS tho.

Have you heard of the Rampage Extreme? It's the best board ever made, and it is a DDR3 board.

[Zucker2k]

it seems to be 403 being the latest non-beta BIOS.

Beta bios 0408, dated 7/10/2008. Been out for weeks.

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=712947&da=y

[PaulyD]

I tried that bios when it first appeared

Loaded fine, windows started so tried prime and my temps went up by about 5 degrees C and then it restarted. Everytime.

Went back to 403 and everything works great - then noticed GrnFinger mention that 308 was better for bandwidth so reverted to that yesterday and he is certainly right :up:

[eSp!s0]

Asus says sth. different but the RF0408 is supporting the new E0 E8600.
Wasn`t here a long time, so excuse me if sb. already posted that. :)

[Zucker2k]

I tried that bios when it first appeared

Loaded fine, windows started so tried prime and my temps went up by about 5 degrees C and then it restarted. Everytime.

Went back to 403 and everything works great - then noticed GrnFinger mention that 308 was better for bandwidth so reverted to that yesterday and he is certainly right :up:

308 is certainly better for RAM bandwidth because of higher TREF. I'm running 308 because anything else has proven quite unstable with my current setup.

[Grnfinger]

308 is certainly better for RAM bandwidth because of higher TREF. I'm running 308 because anything else has proven quite unstable with my current setup.

Same here , I found running anything but 308 eventually creates problems
Thanks for posting the latest Beta:up: Will add it to my sig for DL'ing

[Zucker2k]

Same here , I found running anything but 308 eventually creates problems
Thanks for posting the latest Beta:up: Will add it to my sig for DL'ing

No problem :up:; I'm learning some interesting stuff right now. I think I breezed through these bioses too fast. Sometimes you really need to stick to what you think is best for your hardware.

[MurderCityDevil]

I need some help from you guys again : )

i just bought 4 gigs of corsair dominator ddr2 1066 (2x 2 gigs). After a bunch of hassle I finally got them to run at the right speed and timings and be able to boot, but now I'm having some other problems that I think are related to voltage. My NB voltage was set at 1.47 (not actual) back when i only had 2 gigs of total ram, so I figured I'd need to up it. A corsair tech told me that 1.55 should be plenty, which I get when I bump it up to 1.51. However, I'm still not sure if this is enough.

Additionally, I noticed that I get a BSOD on the windows loading screen if my clock twister is set to anything but auto. I figured "lighter" would help, but alas it does not. All my other voltages are good as I figure ram really only depends on nb volt and dram volt. If anyone has a similar setup, can you please post some settings that would help? I just want to be rock solid stable, don't care much about oc'ing this ram.

[D749]

Decided to try converting my P5E to a P5E/Rampage tonight. Cleared the P5E CMOS. Flashed to the 403 Rampage BIOS. Cleared the CMOS again. Now I'm running a working P5E/Rampage. :D

This BIOS changes are small but amazing. This process actually DOES fix the vDroop issue I was experiencing with my P5E! vDrop is better but still exists.

Thanks for making this post. Time to do some more testing...

[faithful10]

I have founded the max spot for my cpu where it is 24/7 stable in all stress programs, games and so. Since it is not the best bacth (Q0808....) 4027 mhz is max it will run at 1.408 v-core under load. At that speed i am running 537 fsb with is okay i think on X38 chipset with 4 sticks of 1 gigabyte ram.

Everest shot:
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/9290/everest537uv2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/9290/everest537uv2.1d08585b9d.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=238&i=everest537uv2.jpg)

[PaulyD]

I have finally broken 10k on the read - so happy :D

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/4535/10kqg7.th.jpg (http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10kqg7.jpg)

Is there any reason why my write is so low?

I have pretty much the standard timings for my RAM - 5-5-5-15-50 and rest i cant remember from the top of my head :rolleyes:

TBH i'm really happy with the setup at the moment, just wondered if write was ok being that low..

[Grnfinger]

I need some help from you guys again : )

i just bought 4 gigs of corsair dominator ddr2 1066 (2x 2 gigs). After a bunch of hassle I finally got them to run at the right speed and timings and be able to boot, but now I'm having some other problems that I think are related to voltage. My NB voltage was set at 1.47 (not actual) back when i only had 2 gigs of total ram, so I figured I'd need to up it. A corsair tech told me that 1.55 should be plenty, which I get when I bump it up to 1.51. However, I'm still not sure if this is enough.

Additionally, I noticed that I get a BSOD on the windows loading screen if my clock twister is set to anything but auto. I figured "lighter" would help, but alas it does not. All my other voltages are good as I figure ram really only depends on nb volt and dram volt. If anyone has a similar setup, can you please post some settings that would help? I just want to be rock solid stable, don't care much about oc'ing this ram.


Post your complete bios setup.
I'm leaning towards ram timing being the problem.

[RCG_Bex]

What's the best BIOS for OC'ing on the maximus without flashing? Or is flashing just generally giving better OC's?

~Bex

[Shiranui Gen-An]

Anyone want to venture a guess as to why my old P5B Deluxe is beating my Maximus-flashed-to-Rampage Formula in Everest memory/cache tests? Both are set to 400FSB, the P5B housing an E6300@2.8GHz and a Q6600@3.6GHz in the Maximus, and memory at 600MHz 5-5-5 timings. I get 9370MB/s read on the Maximus with PL5, but the P5B is pulling 9500MB/sec, and the subtimings are actually tighter on the Maximus!

[Zucker2k]

This is definitely going to get some of you folks to sit up and mess around a little bit more in your various bios setups. It was simple, really. I just selected 266 strap and left everything else at it is lowest setting. Only settings I touched were vcore and vdimm.

Setup:

Rampage Formula, Bios 0308, Performance Level 7
Q9450 @ 8x450, 1.160v
2x2GB G.Skill PC2 8500 (DDR2 1066) @ 1125MHZ, 1.97v

Check out these insane voltages... :eek:
http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/f69b78fbc5cd51987025f8752e6a4587.jpg

[ShawnTRD]

I know back in the day. The 939 day that is. It was a big strain on your MB to run 4 memory sticks vs 2. With the Intel X38 is that still a problem? Should I be going for 2X2GB vs 4X1GB>

[sesion]

I know back in the day. The 939 day that is. It was a big strain on your MB to run 4 memory sticks vs 2. With the Intel X38 is that still a problem? Should I be going for 2X2GB vs 4X1GB>

You can go for 2x 2GB but choose carefully, there's still issues and needs some tweaking to run stable at higher clocks....

I recommend G-SKill or OCZ

[RCG_Bex]

This is definitely going to get some of you folks to sit up and mess around a little bit more in your various bios setups. It was simple, really. I just selected 266 strap and left everything else at it is lowest setting. Only settings I touched were vcore and vdimm.

Setup:

Rampage Formula, Bios 0308, Performance Level 7
Q9450 @ 8x450, 1.160v
2x2GB G.Skill PC2 8500 (DDR2 1066) @ 1125MHZ, 1.97v

Check out these insane voltages... :eek:
http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/f69b78fbc5cd51987025f8752e6a4587.jpg

:eek: Ok I think now might be a good time to flash to a rampage!

:up: :clap: Nice work!

~Bex

[panheimer]

zucker2k - can you manage to get to a pl6? or ai clock twister to strong or stronger?
with 0461 bios i'm at 455x8, fsb strap 266 and ram 1137 and ai clock twiester moderate. as soon as i try pl6 or ai clock twister to strong or stronger, the mobo won't post, hang on "det dram", so i'm wondering if 0308 bios is more friendly with low pl...

[Grnfinger]

zucker2k - can you manage to get to a pl6? or ai clock twister to strong or stronger?
with 0461 bios i'm at 455x8, fsb strap 266 and ram 1137 and ai clock twiester moderate. as soon as i try pl6 or ai clock twister to strong or stronger, the mobo won't post, hang on "det dram", so i'm wondering if 0308 bios is more friendly with low pl...

no you wont get PL6 with that FSB and divider. PL7 will be the best you can do without a hang.


This is definitely going to get some of you folks to sit up and mess around a little bit more in your various bios setups. It was simple, really. I just selected 266 strap and left everything else at it is lowest setting. Only settings I touched were vcore and vdimm.

Setup:

Rampage Formula, Bios 0308, Performance Level 7
Q9450 @ 8x450, 1.160v
2x2GB G.Skill PC2 8500 (DDR2 1066) @ 1125MHZ, 1.97v

Check out these insane voltages... :eek:

Always impressive as usual:up:
Your running a real Rampage correct not a Maximus modded board?

[Zucker2k]

Always impressive as usual:up:
Your running a real Rampage correct not a Maximus modded board?
Thanks, yep, running a rampage here. By the way, I'm on the 333 strap now, 3.7Ghz and working upwards.

[Barr3l Rid3r]

why do u guys prefer bios 308 then latest one?

[Grnfinger]

why do u guys prefer bios 308 then latest one?

308 gives the best bandwidth/stability atm
Better tref value of 16383

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/1200_1.png

[Zucker2k]

308 gives the best bandwidth/stability atm
Better tref value of 16383

QFT.

[icecpu]

Can someone tell me what is the northbridge voltage range for a quad core ??
I'm planning to get Q9650

[Malik]

I have 1.37V with my qx9650

[Zucker2k]

Hardware same as above on Vista x64

http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/c37f688d745f48f8c39d92f444d55566.jpg

[Grnfinger]

hmm I think its time to grab a 9450 and play
BUT the 9550's will soon be price cut and there a very sweet looking chip.

[Cold Storm]

When do you think the price cut will be? Been waiting on that to happen myself..

[panheimer]

308 gives the best bandwidth/stability atm
Better tref value of 16383


Can you please post your complete settings for this 450x8 and ram ar 1200? Are you using PL6?
I'm also trying to get my system stable with ram at 1200, bit core fails after 2-8 min of prime95 blend...tried upping differents voltages, changed mem subtimings, played with gtls, but no way, every time a core fails after few minutes of priming...
thanks

[MarcusFoX]

lol Yes :)

that is my Stable clock...... I use this 24/7. I use this in COD4 in Cal and Cevo Gaming leagues

Highest ive had the E8400 is 4.8 but it isnt stable.... id like to see some screen shots of some of these xtreme clocks tested with prime for 16 hours I dont think they could last 2 minute, get a heavy overclock is the easy part getting it stable is the the real task.

If anyone has some pointers for this Maximus Formula Rampage editon with a an E8400 bios 403.... feel free to give advice so I can get some higher stable clocks.

:up:

[RCG_Bex]

Well since updating to Rampage BIOS 308 from my Maximus 903 I've dropped my CPU V by like 0.18v! Epic when it needed nearly 1.6v before to get anything stable! 266 strap with ram @ 1245mhz :up:

However it does have 1 issue with prime after a while so I need to tweak that out. Might need to slacken the mem timing a wee bit but I think it just needs a wee bit more voltage. Currently @ 5-5-5-18 2T @ 2.2v if I recall (my RAM is sick though, found it can do really stupid OC's at slack timings. I've seen people run it @ 1402mhz with 5-8-8-21 2T with 2.45v

~Bex

[Grnfinger]

lol Yes :)

that is my Stable clock...... I use this 24/7. I use this in COD4 in Cal and Cevo Gaming leagues

Highest ive had the E8400 is 4.8 but it isnt stable.... id like to see some screen shots of some of these xtreme clocks tested with prime for 16 hours I dont think they could last 2 minute, get a heavy overclock is the easy part getting it stable is the the real task.

If anyone has some pointers for this Maximus Formula Rampage editon with a an E8400 bios 403.... feel free to give advice so I can get some higher stable clocks.

:up:

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/stable_4400.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/test2-2.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4500.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4300prime1.jpg

[MarcusFoX]

Nice clocks....

The 4.5 at 1.456 volts hasnt been stress tested.

Did you find the 308 bios better than the 403 bios??

I have to run 1.5v or more to get anything stable after 4ghz, and it seems the only difference is the bios version

what you running your trd at GRN and is your board vmod penciled

[Zucker2k]

Nice clocks....

The 4.5 at 1.456 volts hasnt been stress tested.

Did you find the 308 bios better than the 403 bios??

I have to run 1.5v or more to get anything stable after 4ghz, and it seems the only difference is the bios version

what you running your trd at GRN and is your board vmod penciled

Torturing your hardware for 16 hours straight at levels you're never ever going to use your system is a little bit e-penis wagging in imho. This is the highest I ever bothered priming.

http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/5f780fae4d441cecd89fab32c422780e.jpg

[RCG_Bex]

Gah! Rampage BIOS sucks balls for me apart from lower voltages. Doesn't like my E6750 clocking to 4ghz at all! :shakes:

Tried everything I can think of - won't even run my games stable. Although I must say, it's taught me huge ammounts more about my RAM and timings :yepp:

Might flash back to the Maximus 0903 again.... then again... might leave it and get a new CPU :D

....although I do really like my E6750 - it's my first OC'ing chip :(

Opinions?

~Bex

[Grnfinger]

Nice clocks....

The 4.5 at 1.456 volts hasnt been stress tested.

Did you find the 308 bios better than the 403 bios??

I have to run 1.5v or more to get anything stable after 4ghz, and it seems the only difference is the bios version

what you running your trd at GRN and is your board vmod penciled

There was no point in priming 4500 there was little difference from 4400
308 is the best bios to date imo


Gah! Rampage BIOS sucks balls for me apart from lower voltages. Doesn't like my E6750 clocking to 4ghz at all! :shakes:

Tried everything I can think of - won't even run my games stable. Although I must say, it's taught me huge ammounts more about my RAM and timings :yepp:

Might flash back to the Maximus 0903 again.... then again... might leave it and get a new CPU :D

....although I do really like my E6750 - it's my first OC'ing chip :(

Opinions?

~Bex

Post your current Rampage bios setup
Rampage will clock higher than Maximus, it takes awhile to learn and tweak the settings
9x450 should be a easy clock for Rampage

[RCG_Bex]

There was no point in priming 4500 there was little difference from 4400
308 is the best bios to date imo



Post your current Rampage bios setup
Rampage will clock higher than Maximus, it takes awhile to learn and tweak the settings
9x450 should be a easy clock for Rampage

E6750 only goes up to x8 :( :down:

Tried various settings based on my old setup - it all boot sbut it won't survive any tests :(

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 500 (510, 515 and 525 have been attempted)
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: Auto / 1201 / 1245
DRAM Command Rate : Auto / 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto / 5-5-5-15 / 5-5-5-18 (5-8-8-21 for 1402 :up:)

CPU Voltage : 1.5875v <---- ran at 1.50v 266 strap and shaved loads of my temps but didn't like going up :eek:
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 / Auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1.47 / 1.49
DRAM Voltage : 2.14 / 2.3 (2.45v real lets my ram run at stupid speeds)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.42
South Bridge Voltage : 1.075
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X / Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X / Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto / DDR2_Ref
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.55

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

That's all off the top of my head that I've tried... I've papers at home with scribbles with other attempts that Ill post when I get home from wokr (I love my work - click the "microplay" sig to see where I work)

~Bex

[Grnfinger]

Take the NB volts to 1.53, I needed 1.53 to run at 500 FSB

[kup]

Right, I'm back after being homeless for a while (long story)...

If someone can point out to me (or write out) the biggest additions/alterations needed on the front page, I'll get to work on updating it.

Sorry for the delay! :(

[Grnfinger]

Good to have you back m8 :bounces:

Aside from the 2 bios releases 408 and 406 there has not been to much that I can recall.

408 is in my sig and I'll post a link for 406 if you dont have it already,
There has been some slight discussion on Clock Skew, it really helps ram stabilty but I cant think of anything else atm


Rampage 406 (http://xow9ga.bay.livefilestore.com/y1px5CqG2xk2jDElImcRVgsuS7Si0uz7XY1pD--0Igvcu26CsI9AEceqiTWWTuNM0GvSRS1JvP-iXcilzWyloO31A/RF0406.rar?download)

[kup]

Cool. How are the new bios working out? Do you have a link for 0406?

[Grnfinger]

Cool. How are the new bios working out? Do you have a link for 0406?

I just added it to my previous post

406 I did not like much kinda buggy, 408 I will test tonight but others have reported it being crap.
308 is still the best to date imo and a few others

[jorgito05]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=195851&highlight=rampage+extreme

Check this guy out!

[ante_ante]

I´m using rampage 0403 bios, anyone know if this bios supports Intel E8600. Will recieve the new cpu today and later this week i will get my new rampage extreme :)

[t_ski]

OK, I have a new PSU I am trying to get to work. It's a Thermaltake 1200W W0133RU. Actually, this is an RMA replacement for another PSU (same model) that had problems powering up after BIOS changes and cold boots. That problem was, after powering on the unit and running it, if I cold booted it immediately afterwards (or did a BIOS change that required a cold reboot), the unit would briefly flash the power light then not start. After receiving the replacement and installing it, I tested to see if the problem I was having with the original unit was fixed.

Since this is the second PSU with the same issue, I was wondering if there is something else you could suggest. I am running the following setup:

Thermaltake 1200W W0133RU
Intel QX9650
Asus Maximus Formula
2 x 2GB G.Skill PC2-1000
HIS Radeon 3870X2
BFG PhysX card
4 x 250GB Seagate 7200.10 drives in Raid 0/5
Plus fans, optical drives, etc.

All of the connectors are firmly seated into their corresponding locations. I tried using the 8-pin motherboard connector on the PSU as well the 4+4pin. I am using two red connectors for the VGA card (one 6-pin and one 8-pin), once SATA cable for 4 drives and one Molex cable for the opticals, PhysX, fan controller and floppy. I tried the VGA power cables in the red sockets (12V rail #3) and the blue sockets (12V #4).

Any suggestions would be welcome.

[Dostoyevsky77]

Holy hell! I had the EXACT same problem with that EXACT same PSU! I even started a thread here about how I've totally blacklisted Tt because of it! Well, I would like to recommend PC Power & Cooling. Also, Silverstone is a good second. I have a Tagan that died after 12 months, but their RMA was rock solid and VERY fast (and the customer service was excellent).

I would stick it to Tt. Send them back their garbage, but this time let them keep it! They probably sent you the one I RMA'ed, LOL!


OK, I have a new PSU I am trying to get to work. It's a Thermaltake 1200W W0133RU. Actually, this is an RMA replacement for another PSU (same model) that had problems powering up after BIOS changes and cold boots. That problem was, after powering on the unit and running it, if I cold booted it immediately afterwards (or did a BIOS change that required a cold reboot), the unit would briefly flash the power light then not start. After receiving the replacement and installing it, I tested to see if the problem I was having with the original unit was fixed. (SNIP!)

[Zucker2k]

Bios 0407 on Asus ftp, this may be the next stable release, who knows.... ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Rampage_Formula/RAMPAGE-ASUS-Formula-0407.zip

[MarcusFoX]

Good find tucker ill give it a try and let everyone now.. so far the best performance ive gotten was with the 308 and 403 bios's.

[aledsav1]

can the extreme be converted to the rampage version?
also seem to be hitting a wall with my extreme and e8400=481fsb 4.3g vcore 1.53 any ideas only changed the fsb term voltage/sb voltage

[MarcusFoX]

Torturing your hardware for 16 hours straight at levels you're never ever going to use your system is a little bit e-penis wagging in imho. This is the highest I ever bothered priming.

http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/5f780fae4d441cecd89fab32c422780e.jpg


For me its not that at all..... its more that if Im going to overclock somthing I want to actually use it day to day it hasnt to be stable im a competive gamer and I have to have a stable clock... as long as the voltages stay with in safe ranges.

yah the 4.6 prime is pritty tight.

Feed me some bios setting im interested to see if there is somthing I need to tweak to get the extra mile out of this E8400...

[t_ski]

Holy hell! I had the EXACT same problem with that EXACT same PSU! I even started a thread here about how I've totally blacklisted Tt because of it! Well, I would like to recommend PC Power & Cooling. Also, Silverstone is a good second. I have a Tagan that died after 12 months, but their RMA was rock solid and VERY fast (and the customer service was excellent).

I would stick it to Tt. Send them back their garbage, but this time let them keep it! They probably sent you the one I RMA'ed, LOL!

So they Tagan you have now is working fine? Did you ever contact Tt support and get any suggestions other than RMA?

[Dostoyevsky77]

Bios 0407 on Asus ftp, this may be the next stable release, who knows.... ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Rampage_Formula/RAMPAGE-ASUS-Formula-0407.zip

Wow, crazy! Nice catch. I just checked the other FTP this morning (ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Rampage_Formula/). It has a lot less stuff. Here I thought the .tw was the mirror. I'll give it a try ASAP (next few days) and report back if nobody beats me to it.


So they Tagan you have now is working fine? Did you ever contact Tt support and get any suggestions other than RMA?

Well, as I said the Tagan I had died after 12 months. The one they sent back is technically the exact same model, but it has the 6+2 PCI-E that mine did not have. I did some research, and apparently they overhauled the internal components as well... same model number (TG1100-U95 (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16817811009)), but radical changes. In a way, it was really good luck it died. I contacted Tt for RMA, but they took too long to approve it (I had bought it as a replacement when my Tagan died). My RMA'ed Tagan came back before they approved the RMA, so I just sent it back to NewEgg for refund. I will never buy another Tt PSU for the rest of my life!

[Dostoyevsky77]

At first blush, it appears that 0407 > 0403. 0308 is between the two. The differences will seem minimal at first, but pay less attention to RAM bandwidth than to latency and L1/L2 performance. Also, the enhancements (memory module compatibility) might be significant if you own the affected modules (I might, but am too lazy to check the QVL). Since it's a work day, I can't go into too much more testing, but here is what I have so far:

0407:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/Capture2-10.jpg

0403:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/Capture-38.jpg

0308... keep in mind, I did a LOT of trials to get all my scores over 10GB/s:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee93/Dostoyevsky77/Capture-21.jpg

[Grnfinger]

I find the new bios a dog, dont like it at all.
308 is still king for me and my hardware. My 8600 is in tomorrow so maybe that might change my mind but I highly doubt it.
Once the Rampage Extreme is available this board is gone to ebay and I can start the process all over again

[Dostoyevsky77]

I find the new bios a dog, dont like it at all.
308 is still king for me and my hardware. My 8600 is in tomorrow so maybe that might change my mind but I highly doubt it.
Once the Rampage Extreme is available this board is gone to ebay and I can start the process all over again

I was going to drop this board a while ago, but now I'm split between two paths: Crossfire on MF/RF or SLI'ed 280GTX'es on the EVGA 780i reference. I will probably not move to DDR3 until Nehalem. Think about making ANOTHER jump in 6 months... it may be worth it to you, but that's going to be a whole new ball game...

[Grnfinger]

I'm looking to build 2 rigs here soon and I have been wanting to make the ddr3 jump for along time now.
Nehalem is my excuse for the second rig to be built you see.... Its what cpu to buy now is my problem, I have a 8600 on the way ( hope to hell its a good clocker ) but I dont know what to buy right now for a 45nm quad, 9550 is going to price drop in a week or so but the 9650 is looking very nice except for the price tag. Local shop is selling for $609.99CDN which is going to hurt the walett but damn I'm tempted.

[Zucker2k]

Go grab 'em...

My first 600 fsb.

[zlojack]

Grnfinger, where'd you find the 8600 in Canada?

[Zucker2k]

Guys and gals, bios 0408 is a dog for EO E8600, avoid it like the plague. 0407 is the best so far.

[screwtech02]

Zucker, you still runnin 600fsb with the 8gb listed in your sig???

[Zucker2k]

Zucker, you still runnin 600fsb with the 8gb listed in your sig???

Nope. I got the PC2-8500 kit and they could do 575

[WaterFlex]

The new MF Bios is ready and available: MAXIMUS-ASUS-Formula-1207
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula

[OVERK|LL]

Bios 0407 on Asus ftp, this may be the next stable release, who knows.... ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Rampage_Formula/RAMPAGE-ASUS-Formula-0407.zip

Wooooooo, new BIOS!!!!!

Any improvements over 403?

[WFO]

Guys and gals, bios 0408 is a dog for EO E8600, avoid it like the plague. 0407 is the best so far.

Is 407 just best for dual-cores or is it best for the 9450 too? :)

[Zucker2k]

Wooooooo, new BIOS!!!!!

Any improvements over 403?

My preferred bios is 0308. But 0407 supports new EO stepping E8600 which I'm now using.


Is 407 just best for dual-cores or is it best for the 9450 too? :)I've only tested it with E8600.

[scottath]

Do/should you still use Loadline calibration if you do the Vdroop mod?
Just 3 passes with a HB pencil all i need to do?
Is the 403 still the best rampage bios for quads?

[leo_bsb]

I installed my mobo and it was running fine for 2 weeks.
I dialed my Q6600 to 3600 using OCCT to check for stability.
In the last two days I was running memtest to dial the RAM and today I rebooted into Windows and noticed the LAN port 1 was not showing on device manager.
LAN port 2 is working.
I checked the BIOS and both were enable. Can I call it dead and RMA the board? Could it be a BIOS problem? I updated the BIOS to the newest one, 1201, but it was working OK as I said.
Could the FSB or NB voltages fried the LAN? All voltages are in a safe zone, only the FSBT is on the "yellow" range.
Thanks in advance.

[WaterFlex]

Guys, the new MAXIMUS-ASUS-Formula-1207 bios SUX. I`ve tested it. It doesn`t like my Cellshock memory.
From this time, i`ve definitely decided to make a Rampage conversion. Please, tell me, which RF bios is the best for RAM compatibility ?
Thanks in advance.

[Grnfinger]

Guys, the new MAXIMUS-ASUS-Formula-1207 bios SUX. I`ve tested it. It doesn`t like my Cellshock memory.
From this time, i`ve definitely decided to make a Rampage conversion. Please, tell me, which RF bios is the best for RAM compatibility ?
Thanks in advance.

try 308 imo its still the best bio, if you have ram issues with it then try 407

[WaterFlex]

Already have flashed RF0308! The most nice for me! RF0401, RF0403, RF0407 sux like MF1201 and MF1207.
The best bios versions are MF1102 and RF0308!

[zlojack]

0308 has been great for me.

I've got 4.3GHz (1.408v) stable now (12+ hours Small FFT and Blend) with the RAM at 1147 MHz with over 10GB Read/Write/Copy in Everest and decent latency. I'm doing a Memtest86+ today now testing how low I can get the RAM voltage.

[ChaosAD]

I dont have any problems at all with 403 bios, but since you all post that 308 gives better memory speed then i ll reflash and test it. Ill post again if i get better results.

[Grnfinger]

0308 has been great for me.

I've got 4.3GHz (1.408v) stable now (12+ hours Small FFT and Blend) with the RAM at 1147 MHz with over 10GB Read/Write/Copy in Everest and decent latency. I'm doing a Memtest86+ today now testing how low I can get the RAM voltage.

Zlo buddy you can grab an E8600 from Canada Computers, there web site is not showing them yet but you can order from the warehouse
$321.99, sorry I did not see your post earlier

[WaterFlex]

try 308 imo its still the best bio, if you have ram issues with it then try 407
407 is not good bios for me, 308 is the best one:up:

[zlojack]

Zlo buddy you can grab an E8600 from Canada Computers, there web site is not showing them yet but you can order from the warehouse
$321.99, sorry I did not see your post earlier

Hmmm... now I have to decide how bad I want one.

I'd love to see your results once you get yours in.

[Grnfinger]

Hmmm... now I have to decide how bad I want one.

I'd love to see your results once you get yours in.

I havent had time to try mine out yet missed the post office pickup, now I wait till Monday:shakes:

Going to play with this till 9550's drop in price NCIX will price drop in a few days so by end of next week I should be able to grab one locally for around the same money.
Then my Q6700 can be sold and maybe my Maximus still thinking on that.

[zlojack]

I havent had time to try mine out yet missed the post office pickup, now I wait till Monday:shakes:

Going to play with this till 9550's drop in price NCIX will price drop in a few days so by end of next week I should be able to grab one locally for around the same money.
Then my Q6700 can be sold and maybe my Maximus still thinking on that.

Yeah...the 9550 price drop will make things interesting as that brings the quad option back into the picture.

I'm just wondering how much more I could get out of an E8600 than I get right now out of the E8400 at 4.3GHz.... probably not much for 24/7.

Well, I look forward to seeing what the E8600 can do on a Maximus.

[ChaosAD]

I am thinking about upgrading my 2x1Gb memory with a 2x2Gb kit. If i had to chose between these kits http://www.plaisio.gr/productlist.aspx?catalog=20&category=69977727, which one would you recommend? If you have any personal experience with an Asus Maximus Formula with any of these kits would be even better ofc :)

[mk_ln]

maybe i missed it somewhere, but after a flash from P5E to Rampage what is the method of bios flashing to a newer Rampage bios? would asus update still work?

thanks

[Grnfinger]

I am thinking about upgrading my 2x1Gb memory with a 2x2Gb kit. If i had to chose between these kits http://www.plaisio.gr/productlist.aspx?catalog=20&category=69977727, which one would you recommend? If you have any personal experience with an Asus Maximus Formula with any of these kits would be even better ofc :)

http://www.plaisio.gr/product.aspx?catalog=20&category=69977727&product=1077880&MSCSProfile=DCCDF22EB27065BEEB660F3E97ED09F0C8D221 BF9B29D8CC3AE8062C3C4212A395354261EB0DA5EDC6D80A83 461F71EA91885D492E368FA8BF3693FD91740B514B3B748BF2 78C5EFAD382835CFF69DE9367D4AE0C000A414ACA9773BE101 19390A2844DA0D447665B374C6E02DCD470136CD4C78ADAFBA 3936CE472E586BCA20

or

http://www.plaisio.gr/product.aspx?catalog=20&category=69977727&product=1143832&MSCSProfile=DCCDF22EB27065BEEB660F3E97ED09F0C8D221 BF9B29D8CC3AE8062C3C4212A395354261EB0DA5EDC6D80A83 461F71EA91885D492E368FA8BF3693FD91740B514B3B748BF2 78C5EFAD382835CFF69DE9367D4AE0C000A414ACA9773BE101 19390A2844DA0D447665B374C6E02DCD470136CD4C78ADAFBA 3936CE472E586BCA20

is what I would recommend, if $$$ is not an issue grab the Dominators you will not be disapointed.

[ChaosAD]

Grnfinger do you have any personal experience with either the Mushkin or the Dominator kit? I have seen people reporting good results with either kit. But my guess is that dominators will more easily reach the 1100+Mhz speed at the rated voltage.

[zlojack]

Grnfinger do you have any personal experience with either the Mushkin or the Dominator kit? I have seen people reporting good results with either kit. But my guess is that dominators will more easily reach the 1100+Mhz speed at the rated voltage.
I can't say enough good things about the Dominators.

With lots of tweaking and a good E8400, here's what I'm getting now on 2.1v (2.02 in bios)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zlojack/Bios0308StrongtRD743GHz.png

EDIT: And I also had those Mushkin Redlines. They were nice, but I couldn't get more than about ~1050 MHz out of them. My Dominators are at 1147 24/7 stable.

[ChaosAD]

I can't say enough good things about the Dominators.

With lots of tweaking and a good E8400, here's what I'm getting now on 2.1v (2.02 in bios)


Glad to see them run 1147Mhz 5-5-5-15 @ 2.1v. I hope ofc to be stable for 24/7 use and not just for benching. Do you use any additional cooling on them?

[zlojack]

Glad to see them run 1147Mhz 5-5-5-15 @ 2.1v. I hope ofc to be stable for 24/7 use and not just for benching. Do you use any additional cooling on them?

They are 100% stable at those settings I posted (12+ hours Orthos blend (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zlojack/43GHzOrthosBlend12Hrs.jpg) and 12+ hours Memtest86+) not just for benching.

I use the Dominator Airflow fan on them. It comes with the memory if you get the right kit. I actually had 8GB running stable 24/7 at 1122 MHz but I sold one kit because I needed money.

[ChaosAD]

Thanx a lot zlojack for the info :up: 4Gb of memory sounds just right for the moment. I hope i can also use the OCZ ram cooler i already have. Do you know if all the kits perform equally (not meaning 10-15Mhz +/- ofc).

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger do you have any personal experience with either the Mushkin or the Dominator kit? I have seen people reporting good results with either kit. But my guess is that dominators will more easily reach the 1100+Mhz speed at the rated voltage.

I have the Dominators, there the best imo.

The OCZ ram cooler will fit on the dominators for sure.
The redlines overclock very very well but I have not used them personally.

That a stable clock NOT just a bench

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/4400_308.png

[ChaosAD]

Thank you too Grnfinger. As i can see 2 out of 2 kits can do 1100+Mhz. In fact both run at more than 1140Mhz :) So since they can manage the speed i need plus the fact that my cooler fits on them this kit is the one i look for. I just hope nop to be the un lucky one, which i usually am :(

[elvislee58]

let me try the RF407 for Q9450

[Exentler]

can i flash P5E Deluxe (X48) to Rampage Formula ?

[Eluder]

Just in case people weren't aware, there's a new BIOS revision, 1207, out on the Asus website.

Strange, it's not listed anymore, odd... I am using it. :)

[Grnfinger]

ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...rmula-1207.zip

[WaterFlex]

Just in case people weren't aware, there's a new BIOS revision, 1207, out on the Asus website.

Strange, it's not listed anymore, odd... I am using it. :)

1207 is bad for my RAM. -100Mb read, copy,write at Everest bench.

[Jazz]

can i flash P5E Deluxe (X48) to Rampage Formula ?

Yup, did it last week.

[sirheck]

My Rampage/Maximus SE mutant-hybrid.
The NB(on the rampage) was running 50c at idle It wasnt making hardly any contact at all:shakes:

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n280/sirheckiii/Picture742.jpg

Now with the heat-pipe assy from the maximus SE it runs in the low
40,sc when loaded(prime95) after 15 minutes.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n280/sirheckiii/Picture746.jpg

[WaterFlex]

sirheck, nice pics btw ;)

[SetteUltras]

Guys, can the first pcie slot, where supreme sound card is supposed to fit in, be used as a regular pcie slot? For example use it with an x-fi fatality pro pcie. Thanx

[WaterFlex]

Guys, can the first pcie slot, where supreme sound card is supposed to fit in, be used as a regular pcie slot? For example use it with an x-fi fatality pro pcie. Thanx

Yes, it can be.

[SetteUltras]

Thank you Waterflex for the quick response!

[les_paulde]

Dear all,

this is really excellent news, I just bought the P5E Deluxe (x48) last week and am suffering from massive Vdroop when switching from idle to load, causing my overclock to crash. Seeing this thread, it seems like I could just flash the Rampage Formula bios (0403) using the method from pg 1 and this issue should be fixed, right? What happens if I would for some reason wanna convert back to the P5E Deluxe bios, would this work in the same way (with the correct .rom file obviously) or is it not possible to downgrade once the switch is made? I've tried searching this thread and google for the answer but have been unsuccessful at getting a good answer, I hope you guys could perhaps help me out? Thanks a lot in advance!

[RCG_Bex]

E8600 on the way and should arrive tomorrow (retiring my old E6750 to a LAN PC after many months of a 4ghz OC). Need to update BIOS. 407 you said is the best for it though yeah?

Hopefully I'll get a call regarding my 3870X2 because 5 months it's been dead and it's been away over a month and when I phone they don't have a clue where it is or what's happening to it :shakes:

Told em if I don't get a decent reply tomorrow then I'll go to TS (maybe they'll give me a 4870X2 :P)

~Bex

[Grnfinger]

E8600 on the way and should arrive tomorrow (retiring my old E6750 to a LAN PC after many months of a 4ghz OC). Need to update BIOS. 407 you said is the best for it though yeah?

Hopefully I'll get a call regarding my 3870X2 because 5 months it's been dead and it's been away over a month and when I phone they don't have a clue where it is or what's happening to it :shakes:

Told em if I don't get a decent reply tomorrow then I'll go to TS (maybe they'll give me a 4870X2 :P)

~Bex

I have been waiting not aslong as you but I'm also getting anoyed.
I'm about to call them now a take a huge :banana::banana::banana::banana: all over someone.
Unacceptable to wait this long and they to tell me they have no clue where my card is.
The only thing saving me is my tracking number wich confirms they have accepted it at the RMA center.

[zlojack]

I have been waiting not aslong as you but I'm also getting anoyed.
I'm about to call them now a take a huge :banana::banana::banana::banana: all over someone.
Unacceptable to wait this long and they to tell me they have no clue where my card is.
The only thing saving me is my tracking number wich confirms they have accepted it at the RMA center.

Still? :eek::confused:

[Grnfinger]

Still? :eek::confused:

Oh hell yes.
The person handiling my rma is not in today, so I have to wait till tomorrow for any information.
Grn is not happy:shakes:

[Grnfinger]

Ok guy's share your opinions

I have a unopend E8600 that I can exchange for a sweet Q9550 for a cool 50 bucks more than the 8600, what would you do????

[Eastcoasthandle]

Ok guy's share your opinions

I have a unopend E8600 that I can exchange for a sweet Q9550 for a cool 50 bucks more than the 8600, what would you do????

You want to pay $50 more for a Q9550 at 2.83 GHz at a 8.5 multi with 2 x 6MB of cache? Versus a E8600 at 3.33 GHz at 10 multi with 6 megs of cache. I would keep the E8600 and save the $50. A Q9550 is not future proofing yourself when nehalem is around the corner.

[zlojack]

You want to pay $50 more for a Q9550 at 2.83 GHz at a 8.5 multi with 2 x 6MB of cache? Versus a E8600 at 3.33 GHz at 10 multi with 6 megs of cache. I would keep the E8600 and save the $50. A Q9550 is not future proofing yourself when nehalem is around the corner.

+1

Clock the crap out of the E8600 and enjoy yourself!

(Except, define "sweet" first. 4GHz sweet? Higher?)

[Grnfinger]

You want to pay $50 more for a Q9550 at 2.83 GHz at a 8.5 multi with 2 x 6MB of cache? Versus a E8600 at 3.33 GHz at 10 multi with 6 megs of cache. I would keep the E8600 and save the $50. A Q9550 is not future proofing yourself when nehalem is around the corner.




+1

Clock the crap out of the E8600 and enjoy yourself!

(Except, define "sweet" first. 4GHz sweet? Higher?)

Thanks!
I'm opening the box now:up:

I would hope the q9550 would do 4.0GHz 24/7 but its not a 100%
So to hell with it I'll keep my Q6700 for a spare and clock the 8600

[RCG_Bex]

I have been waiting not aslong as you but I'm also getting anoyed.
I'm about to call them now a take a huge :banana::banana::banana::banana: all over someone.
Unacceptable to wait this long and they to tell me they have no clue where my card is.
The only thing saving me is my tracking number wich confirms they have accepted it at the RMA center.

ROFLMAO! Lucky you! I have an RMA number but no tracking number and the guys who sent it away (UK's new RMA centre) don't know where it is, what it's status is or anything. I sent a very angry email today telling them I want a response by tomorrow or I'll be going to trading standards. If they offer me a 4870X2 I'll be happy and drop all complaints lol

~Bex

[OVERK|LL]

Well, 407 sucks for me. My system won't boot with all my 403 settings. WTF???????

Flashing to 308 now (I've never run it) to see what happens!!!

EDIT: Got 407 working, missed the "double" CPU voltage list. Error on my part.

308 definitely DOES give the best memory bandwidth. Will upload screenies in a bit.

Reflashing back to 308.

-Chris

[Barr3l Rid3r]

why do u guys think 308 is better then 403? I can run sweet 530x7.5 on my 403.... w/ 1.35vNB and 1.25vfsb

[OVERK|LL]

why do u guys think 308 is better then 403? I can run sweet 530x7.5 on my 403.... w/ 1.35vNB and 1.25vfsb

As per Grnfinger's recommendation, 308 gives the best memory bandwidth.

Here are mine:

Here's my 403:
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.com/photos/cachememramp345.png

Here's my 407:
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.com/photos/cachemem407.png

Here's my 308:
http://www.darkfibrecommunications.com/photos/cachemem308.png

You can see that 308 definitely offers more bandwidth.

[WaterFlex]

OVERK|LL same here ;)
Here is mine 308 BIOS

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9463/motherboarddu3.png

[les_paulde]

I just wanted to let you guys know that I just succesfully flashed my P5E Deluxe (x48) to the Rampage Formula 0308 bios and it worked like a charm thanks to the clear guide here on page 1! :D

It has fully fixed my Vdroop problem of the P5E dlx bios, which got as high as 0.08V sometimes and completely ruined any attempt of overclocking this supposedly bad stepping. With the loadline calibration turned on, the Vdroop has totally disappeared with this bios, and I mean literally dissapeared, none at all! :up:

The loadline calibration on the P5E dlx bios did not have any effect so I wonder what it is that is different in the Rampage bios. :shrug: But I guess who cares, this method does the trick very nicely and saved me 60 euros in the process! Thanks alot for that!

[Grnfinger]

Still? :eek::confused:

I yet again just got off the phone with Asus.
They have NO 3870X2 replacement cards, so I'm supposed to get an email shortly outlining my options. This should be highly entertaining

[zlojack]

I yet again just got off the phone with Asus.
They have NO 3870X2 replacement cards, so I'm supposed to get an email shortly outlining my options. This should be highly entertaining

You might get something better...:ROTF::rofl::shakes:

[Grnfinger]

I think the only thing I'm going to get is a ulcer altho a couple of 4850's or 4870's would be sweet and worth all the aggravation
Still waiting for the Asus email

[RCG_Bex]

I yet again just got off the phone with Asus.
They have NO 3870X2 replacement cards, so I'm supposed to get an email shortly outlining my options. This should be highly entertaining

Hey at least your RMA team can tell you that there isn't available. I know there's none because tehys topped selling them over here a few months back but my team can't even tell me where my card is or even what's happening.

So I phone around and around through Asus and around in circles I go. Do I get anywhere? No. "please email us details and we shall look at emailing you back". F*CK OFF! I want my feckin card fixed or a new 4870X2! (lol idealy the 2nd seeing as how I used my 3870X2 was like 3 weeks before it blew and been left with a dead card ever since and that was 5 months ago)

So I'll phone again tomorrow and if I don't get put through to someone then off to trading standards I go.

~Bex

[Grnfinger]

Hey at least your RMA team can tell you that there isn't available. I know there's none because tehys topped selling them over here a few months back but my team can't even tell me where my card is or even what's happening.

So I phone around and around through Asus and around in circles I go. Do I get anywhere? No. "please email us details and we shall look at emailing you back". F*CK OFF! I want my feckin card fixed or a new 4870X2! (lol idealy the 2nd seeing as how I used my 3870X2 was like 3 weeks before it blew and been left with a dead card ever since and that was 5 months ago)

So I'll phone again tomorrow and if I don't get put through to someone then off to trading standards I go.

~Bex

Its truely frustrating for sure.
5 Months is unexceptable I would start leaning on them hard.
I would call the rma centre and ask to speek to a supervisor, bypass the customer service drone and go to someone who can make a decision.
I call everyday since August 5th regardless of what they tell me.
Once my card is shipped I will stop calling. Its the first thing I do when I walk in the dooor from work, I dont even take my boots off:rofl:

[RCG_Bex]

Lol thast teh thing - I have to speak to the supervisor cause everyone else paps me off and says talk to him and don't want to deal with me any more. He's moaning at Asus but doesn't sound like he's really lifting a finger. I just phone them every day and moan - still no further forward. Trading standards are about to get involved ;)

~Bex

[Barr3l Rid3r]

Lol thast teh thing - I have to speak to the supervisor cause everyone else paps me off and says talk to him and don't want to deal with me any more. He's moaning at Asus but doesn't sound like he's really lifting a finger. I just phone them every day and moan - still no further forward. Trading standards are about to get involved ;)

~Bex

What brand is it?

[Lestat]

ok people enough about video card RMA's... there are video card sections for this

we need more voices about the new 1207 bios....

[ShawnTRD]

0403
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd247/ShawnTRD/403.jpg

VS

0308
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd247/ShawnTRD/0308.jpg

[ShawnTRD]

Both Read and Copy have good improvements.

[OVERK|LL]

Yup, 308 definitely seems to be the best.

[zlojack]

0308 has given me good bandwidth and a nice stable oc.

[faithful10]

Here is 0308 and 0403 compared at 537 mhz buss speed on my system

0308:
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/7801/5370308ba1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/7801/5370308ba1.b269cce093.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=391&i=5370308ba1.jpg)

0403:
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7063/everest537aa9.th.jpg (http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=everest537aa9.jpg)

I have been using 0403 for a good period, but 0308 seems to give a little more BW. Will try that for know and see if that also if 100% stable at same oc.

The ram i just running standard settings, have not tried tweaking timings lower yet

[WaterFlex]

faithful10
Nice result! Good job bro ;)

[WaterFlex]

I have been using 0403 for a good period, but 0308 seems to give a little more BW. Will try that for know and see if that also if 100% stable at same oc.
Yeah, 0308 is a little better :up:

[Barr3l Rid3r]

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/7059/prime530fsbug5.jpg

[WaterFlex]

Barr3l Rid3r
Some Everest , please ? ;)

[RCG_Bex]

It's an Asus 3870X2 - they just called to say it'll be replaced next week so no free upgrades :(

Oh well... hopefully Mike will bring me home some TIM tonight and I can get the 8600 in :D

~Bex

[faithful10]

faithful10
Nice result! Good job bro ;)

Thanks alot. I love this mobo and can't understand all the flaming Asus gets on different forums. 537 mhz on a x38 chipset with 4 sticks of memory is very good i think, and the memory is just some cheap kingston pc 8500.

I have tested it all day now and it is totally stable like then used bios 0403, so i can full recommed bios 0308 like all the others in the thread

[WaterFlex]

so i can full recommed bios 0308 like all the others in the thread

I`m totally agree with u :cool:

[SetteUltras]

OVERK|LL same here ;)
Here is mine 308 BIOS

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9463/motherboarddu3.png


Waterflex, what are the other bios memory settings for this config?
Performance level, dram static read, Ai Clock Twister etc values...
Very impressive results at only 1000MHz

[WaterFlex]

Performance level = 8
Dram Static Read control = disabled
Ai Clock Twister = Moderate
DRAM Voltage = 2,0 bios and 2,098 real
FSB Termination voltage = 1,38
NB Voltage = 1,39
SB Voltage = 1,075

Full stable. 4 hours Prime95, 2 hours OCCT, and the hardest ever test - Intel Burn test - full stable.

The secret of such high result with obly 1000MHz is the synchro 1:1.
I`m going to buy M2F and do 600Mhz FSB and again 1:1.

[RCG_Bex]

Quick question - does 308 work with the new E8600? Or do I HAVE to go to 407?

~Bex

[WaterFlex]

Quick question - does 308 work with the new E8600? Or do I HAVE to go to 407?

~Bex
I think it does. But
You should try to check it by yourself.
407 give a little less RAMbrandwidth.

[zlojack]

Hey Grnfinger, any results with your E8600 on the Maximus yet?

[Grnfinger]

Quick question - does 308 work with the new E8600? Or do I HAVE to go to 407?

~Bex

407 was released to support the new cpus


Hey Grnfinger, any results with your E8600 on the Maximus yet?

I traded it for a 9550 its on my desk now, just dont have the time to play with it, hope to have some screens tomorrow
I have a good shot at a 4.0GHz 24/7 machine so to hell with the wolfdale I had 2 of them they were fun, but I like the power of a quad.

[zlojack]

407 was released to support the new cpus



I traded it for a 9550 its on my desk now, just dont have the time to play with it, hope to have some screens tomorrow
I have a good shot at a 4.0GHz 24/7 machine so to hell with the wolfdale I had 2 of them they were fun, but I like the power of a quad.

Nice. Well, I'm sure you'll be happy either way!

Look forward to your 9550 adventures.

[junkun13]

anybody has OCZ Flex PC2-9600 here? I Can't get 1200Mhz on this board, help :(

[Grnfinger]

anybody has OCZ Flex PC2-9600 here? I Can't get 1200Mhz on this board, help :(

post your bios setup please

[Lestat]

anybody has OCZ Flex PC2-9600 here? I Can't get 1200Mhz on this board, help :(

i have them,, 1200mhz isnt easy with any ram from what i personally have tested. on this board
my gskill 6400 HZ which easily do 1200 on other baords would make the baord not boot if i tried it. i cant make 1200mhz work for nothing.

what volts are you running you do NOT need more then 2.0v for 1150mhz 5-5-5-15. if you do,, sorry you got a turd set. lol.
i run mine at 1.98v (bios reading and DMM )


are you guys talking about going back to the OLD OLD 0308 bios ? or are you talking about a hacked bios ?

[Grnfinger]

i have them,, 1200mhz isnt easy with any ram from what i personally have tested.
my gskill 6400 HZ which easily do 1200 on other baords would make the baord not boot if i tried it. i cant make 1200mhz work for nothing.

what volts are you running you do NOT need more then 2.0v for 1150mhz 5-5-5-15. if you do,, sorry you got a turd set. lol.
i run mine at 1.98v (bios reading and DMM )


are you guys talking about going back to the OLD OLD 0308 bios ? or are you talking about a hacked bios ?

Rampage bios, if you flash to Rampage bios you can get that ram stable @ 1200, I'm quite certain of it.

Clock Skew on a rampage bios is your ram's best friend.
I have the worst set of GSkill ram on the planet and I can them stable at 1135MHz with the proper Clock Skew settings.

[Talonman]

I am getting Flash Fever again. I am still sitting back at Maximus BIOS 1004. I don't flash too often, but I could run my Q6600 faster with lower volts on 907. I have been no lover of 1004, but never opted to update it as of yet.

I have to admit that every time I come back to this thread, there seems to be way more excitement generated for doing the Rampage Conversion. I have resisted so far, thinking it would be best to stick to the BIOS'es made directly for the Maximus SE.

For the first time I find myself thinking Rampage BIOS 308, might be for me.

If there is many of us old Q6600'ers still around, and do you have any strong opinion on the best BIOS to run? (Maximus or Rampage) :p:

[Amurtigress]

Hello,

I hate to admit it, I just can't get my Q9300 stable,
despite my over a decade lasting experiences in overclocking.
Here is my current situation: Most system crashes/freezes are
accompanied by several WMIxWDM errors, Event type 122. Bus Interconnect
error. They occur a few times in a row before the system hangs up.
See bottom of this post for error details

To me this feels like an error on the FSB...it annoys me terribly
that I've got no clue what else could cause this besides the FSB GTL
reference, the FSB termination voltage and the CPU VCore.

My current board is a standard Maximus Formula V1.03 with Rampage BIOS 0308,
running a Q9300 at 3.26 GHz. 4x1 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 RAM

Another question: 1.40V FSB term. volt. are usually being considered the limit
for 45 nm CPUs. Does this refer to the ASUS' BIOS setting, or to the ACTUAL
sensor readings which are usually 0.08V below the bios setting?

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 7.5
FSB Frequency : 436
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-874
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 4

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
...
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

CPU Voltage : 1.25
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.34-1.38
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

The Error from the event log:
(Note: Some of the error entries have all Memory parameters being 0, not 3!)

Event Type: Error
Event Source: WMIxWDM
Event Category: None
Event ID: 122
Date: 13.08.2008
Time: 18:59:13
User: N/A
Computer: KUBLIA
Description:
Machine Check Event reported is a fatal Bus or Interconnect error.
Memory Hierarchy Level: 3
Participation: 3
Request Type: 0
Memory/IO: 3
Address: 0

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 01 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 ........
0008: ac e6 56 a2 65 fd c8 01 ¬æV¢eýÈ.
0010: 03 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 0f 0e 00 30 00 00 00 f2 ...0...ò
0028: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

(rest deleted. All zeroes anyway)

[Grnfinger]

I am getting Flash Fever again. I am still sitting back at Maximus BIOS 1004. I don't flash too often, but I could run my Q6600 faster with lower volts on 907. I have been no lover of 1004, but never opted to update it as of yet.

I have to admit that every time I come back to this thread, there seems to be way more excitement generated for doing the Rampage Conversion. I have resisted so far, thinking it would be best to stick to the BIOS'es made directly for the Maximus SE.

For the first time I find myself thinking Rampage BIOS 308, might be for me.

If there is many of us old Q6600'ers still around, do you have any strong opinion on the best BIOS to run? (Maximus or Rampage) :p:

Anything Maximus after 907 the bios's were geard towards 45nm cpu's
Rampage is a awesome bios, it adds many options to tweak ram and gives better GTL ref for 65nm chips.
308 Rampage is the best imo so far for bandwidth, the recent 407 is mainly for the new cpu's that hit last week 8600 and 9650 ( someone correct me if I'm wrong.)
ZenEffect had his board die on him with a Rampage flash, rma'd it to Asus with the rampage hack still on it and they sent him a new board.
So the warranty should not be an issue if thats holding you back.
I get better clocks and lower volts on the Rampage with my 6600 and 6700.
I would recommend the conversion to anyone it is worth it.

[Talonman]

Thanks for the reply. :)

I think the next CPU I will jump to is a QX9650 when the price drops low enouigh for humans. Does the Rampage 308 already know how to deal with that CPU, or would that be another flash down the line?

Thanks.

[Grnfinger]

Thanks for the reply. :)

I think the next CPU I will jump to is a QX9650 when the price drops low enouigh for humans. Does the Rampage 308 already know how to deal with that CPU, or would that be another flash down the line?

Thanks.
I can understand that, I'm in no hurry to sell my Kidney to buy a cpu.

QX 308 can handle it.
I just took advantage of the nice price drop on the 9550, from 599.00 to a resonable 361.99.

[WFO]

Hey guys, I have an odd problem with my Maximus Rampage conversion. I've never had an issue till I decided I wanted an Nvidia card instead of ATI. I've tried 2 MSI 8800GTS cards and 1 Evga 9800GX2. None produce a video signal on my board yet the computer boots. If I wait long enough and enter my PW, I hear the Vista music as it goes to the desktop with a black screen. :( I put the ATI 1950 back in and no video problem. I took the 2 8800GTS cards and put them in other rigs. 1 an old DFI 965 and the other in a P5Q. Those cards work perfectly on those boards. I haven't tried the 9800GX2 on another board yet because it means breaking down the Maximus Rampage and stealing the power supply or buying another power supply capable of running 2 GX2s and I'm leaning towards the latter.

Any ideas as to why my board hates Nvidia? Anyone else had the problem?

[OVERK|LL]

Hey guys, I have an odd problem with my Maximus Rampage conversion. I've never had an issue till I decided I wanted an Nvidia card instead of ATI. I've tried 2 MSI 8800GTS cards and 1 Evga 9800GX2. None produce a video signal on my board yet the computer boots. If I wait long enough and enter my PW, I hear the Vista music as it goes to the desktop with a black screen. :( I put the ATI 1950 back in and no video problem. I took the 2 8800GTS cards and put them in other rigs. 1 an old DFI 965 and the other in a P5Q. Those cards work perfectly on those boards. I haven't tried the 9800GX2 on another board yet because it means breaking down the Maximus Rampage and stealing the power supply or buying another power supply capable of running 2 GX2s and I'm leaning towards the latter.

Any ideas as to why my board hates Nvidia? Anyone else had the problem?

That's very strange! I'm running an ASUS 8800GTS 512 with no issues here........ And have run 308, 403 and 407.

[screwtech02]

Rampage bios, if you flash to Rampage bios you can get that ram stable @ 1200, I'm quite certain of it.

Clock Skew on a rampage bios is your ram's best friend.
I have the worst set of GSkill ram on the planet and I can them stable at 1135MHz with the proper Clock Skew settings.

You post your skew settings Grnfinger?? I am trying to get my 8gb stable @ anything over 1100... BTW, just how do you figure the skew settings anyways??

[jakku]

I'm use BIOS 1004 for my E8400 maby another BIOS version is better ?

[CBird28]

hi maximus formula users. Anyone know if an x-fi extreme music is compatible with crossfire

theirs only one pci slot free when 2 gpus are in, which is up the top

[zlojack]

hi maximus formula users. Anyone know if an x-fi extreme music is compatible with crossfire

theirs only one pci slot free when 2 gpus are in, which is up the top

I have my sound card in and it was there when I had Crossfire.

[icecpu]

Just finish finding the 24/7 setting for E8600
didn't get what I expected, it's way too hotter than E8400
I manage to get 4.23Ghz at 1.256v, can't push further vcore, too hot here now in northern Califonia.
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6908/89246835vh7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6908/89246835vh7.03b2609abe.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=518&i=89246835vh7.jpg)

[Lestat]

Hello,

I hate to admit it, I just can't get my Q9300 stable,
despite my over a decade lasting experiences in overclocking.
Here is my current situation: Most system crashes/freezes are
accompanied by several WMIxWDM errors, Event type 122. Bus Interconnect
error. They occur a few times in a row before the system hangs up.
See bottom of this post for error details

To me this feels like an error on the FSB...it annoys me terribly
that I've got no clue what else could cause this besides the FSB GTL
reference, the FSB termination voltage and the CPU VCore.

My current board is a standard Maximus Formula V1.03 with Rampage BIOS 0308,
running a Q9300 at 3.26 GHz. 4x1 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 RAM

Another question: 1.40V FSB term. volt. are usually being considered the limit
for 45 nm CPUs. Does this refer to the ASUS' BIOS setting, or to the ACTUAL
sensor readings which are usually 0.08V below the bios setting?

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 7.5
FSB Frequency : 436
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-874
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 12
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 60
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 4

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
...
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

CPU Voltage : 1.25
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.61
DRAM Voltage : 2.00
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.34-1.38
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5





first thing is your NB is WAY too high. you dont need anything more than 1.35-1.4v for NB. 1.6v is just rediculous.

your adjusting all those ram timings and frankly you dont need to your ram is only 800mhz.

set everything to auto. run the ram at 5-5-5-12 2.0v

performance level of 8 is way wrong too.

frankly, your messing with ram settings that are doing you more harm than good considering your ram is only running 800 and some odd mhz....
just disable or set all those extra settings to auto.


Another question: 1.40V FSB term. volt

thats not true FSB term can go alot higher.

0.08v below bios settings ? not sure where you got that. the Maximus OVERVOLTS BIG TIME on ram, NB, VTT and FSB Term. so you should check with a DMM on the baord.


i think someone or something is leading you down the wrong path and your massively overvolting everything or atleast some things and your messing with the ram and trying to make it run way off kilter.

[Houdini]

Oki guys, big problem!

When I booted my computer today, there was no connection to my monitor, mouse and keyboard. My screen just stays black, after blinking analog/digital for some seconds. Furthermore my keyboard and mouse always blinks 5secs after I boot it.

Normally that is not a problem for me, as I just turn off the power completly, until my motherboard is turned off fully, and then it boots properly. And I've done it many times.

But today it didn't! I can still not get any connection to my screen etc.

I've tried to clear CMOS, and have removed the motherboard battery 2 times. 1st time for 2-3mins. Second time for 20mins.

Still nothing!

Can anybody help me please - and quick please!

Sincerely yours!

My system is as showed in my signature - except the HDDS (4x1 Samsung 1tb F1's)

______

This is a copy from my topic in Intel section!

[zlojack]

thats not true FSB term can go alot higher.

0.08v below bios settings ? not sure where you got that. the Maximus OVERVOLTS BIG TIME on ram, NB, VTT and FSB Term. so you should check with a DMM on the baord.

From what I've seen the FSB Term voltage reads as undervolting in bios. I set mine at 1.34 and it reads about 1.24 in bios (again, maybe those readings are off, but the RAM overvolts about 0.08, which is fairly accurate according to what we know.) PLL also overvolts by 0.1v according to the bios.

I haven't checked anything with a voltimeter.

[CBird28]

I have my sound card in and it was there when I had Crossfire.

how close is it from the ram?

[zlojack]

how close is it from the ram?
I just happen to have a pic:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zlojack/DSC02132.jpg

[Grnfinger]

first thing is your NB is WAY too high. you dont need anything more than 1.35-1.4v for NB. 1.6v is just rediculous.

your adjusting all those ram timings and frankly you dont need to your ram is only 800mhz.

set everything to auto. run the ram at 5-5-5-12 2.0v

performance level of 8 is way wrong too.

frankly, your messing with ram settings that are doing you more harm than good considering your ram is only running 800 and some odd mhz....
just disable or set all those extra settings to auto.



thats not true FSB term can go alot higher.

0.08v below bios settings ? not sure where you got that. the Maximus OVERVOLTS BIG TIME on ram, NB, VTT and FSB Term. so you should check with a DMM on the baord.


i think someone or something is leading you down the wrong path and your massively overvolting everything or atleast some things and your messing with the ram and trying to make it run way off kilter.

I do recall the Intel specs stateing that 45nm max FSBT was 1.40.
I think others will confirm this in the E8400 thread I know he has a quad but should be able to get the correct max value there.
4x1GB will tax the NB alot harder than 2 sticks so setting 1.35 might be a little on the low side, I would set maybe 1.45 and work down from there, I also agree 1.61 is insane for NB volts.
PL 8 is high for 1:1 PL 7 or 6 should work but regardless that would not cause his problem. 5-5-5-15 vs 5-5-5-12 offers nothing. Only thing that would/ could tell a difference would be a Everest bench.

[junkun13]

i have them,, 1200mhz isnt easy with any ram from what i personally have tested. on this board
my gskill 6400 HZ which easily do 1200 on other baords would make the baord not boot if i tried it. i cant make 1200mhz work for nothing.

what volts are you running you do NOT need more then 2.0v for 1150mhz 5-5-5-15. if you do,, sorry you got a turd set. lol.
i run mine at 1.98v (bios reading and DMM )


are you guys talking about going back to the OLD OLD 0308 bios ? or are you talking about a hacked bios ?


bios: current

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Setting : 10
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400MHz
PCI-E Frequency: 100

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Enabled
Boost Level: 0

CPU Voltage : 2.62v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.58v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.35v
DRAM Voltage : 1.92v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.24v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v

NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Disabled

CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : 10
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled

when i try to set the fsb strap to 266MHz, DRAM Freq to 1203Mhz, NB volt. 1.55v and dram volt. 2.06 my system wont boot.

is there wrong in my settings? Thanks!

[Grnfinger]

when i try to set the fsb strap to 266MHz, DRAM Freq to 1203Mhz, NB volt. 1.55v and dram volt. 2.06 my system wont boot.

is there wrong in my settings? Thanks!

Set Dram Static Read Control to AUTO
Set Transaction Booster to AUTO.

It should boot now, once in windows check Everest to see what PL level is set, then adjust your bios manually to set your PL.

1200 on 266 strap with trans booster enabled relax level 0 is setting a incorrect PL level and thats why your PC wont boot.

[Talonman]

Hey guys, I have an odd problem with my Maximus Rampage conversion. I've never had an issue till I decided I wanted an Nvidia card instead of ATI. I've tried 2 MSI 8800GTS cards and 1 Evga 9800GX2. None produce a video signal on my board yet the computer boots. If I wait long enough and enter my PW, I hear the Vista music as it goes to the desktop with a black screen. :( I put the ATI 1950 back in and no video problem. I took the 2 8800GTS cards and put them in other rigs. 1 an old DFI 965 and the other in a P5Q. Those cards work perfectly on those boards. I haven't tried the 9800GX2 on another board yet because it means breaking down the Maximus Rampage and stealing the power supply or buying another power supply capable of running 2 GX2s and I'm leaning towards the latter.

Any ideas as to why my board hates Nvidia? Anyone else had the problem?

My money is on the official SupremeFXII driver. Whenever I installed the driver, bad things would happin. The red X letting me know my internet connection wasen't there yet, on each re-boot. (It would last about 90 looong seconds before giving up and continued to boot.) The modum was always ready. It was a driver conflict that caused me problems. I just use the windows default sound driver, and all works fine for me.

I know it sounds wacky, but that is my guess. :)

With no video, just take the sound card out and see if it fixes anything.

[junkun13]

Set Dram Static Read Control to AUTO
Set Transaction Booster to AUTO.

It should boot now, once in windows check Everest to see what PL level is set, then adjust your bios manually to set your PL.

1200 on 266 strap with trans booster enabled relax level 0 is setting a incorrect PL level and thats why your PC wont boot.

still no luck :(

[Grnfinger]

still no luck :(

what is the LCD Poster screen showing when it wont boot?

[junkun13]

what is the LCD Poster screen showing when it wont boot?

DET DRAM

[Grnfinger]

DET DRAM

try trans booster disabled relax level 2
dram static read control disabled

[junkun13]

try trans booster disabled relax level 2
dram static read control disabled

still won't boot, other suggestions please!

[Grnfinger]

still won't boot, other suggestions please!

what bios version are you running?

[junkun13]

what bios version are you running?

latest 1201, i guess 266 strap will not work? :shrug:

[Grnfinger]

latest 1201, i guess 266 strap will not work? :shrug:

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400MHZ
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1199


DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate (Strong if its stable)
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax Level 0

[CBird28]

I just happen to have a pic:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zlojack/DSC02132.jpg

thanks man, nice setup

[junkun13]

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400MHZ
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1199


DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate (Strong if its stable)
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax Level 0

still no chance of booting, i hate this :mad:

[Zucker2k]

still no chance of booting, i hate this :mad:

You need to post all your bios settings. If you're on the 266 strap, you're most likely working with the 4:5 divider (FSB 1000:DRAM 1200) - if this is the case then you'll need to run performance level 8. Also advance clock skews to 300 for both A&B channels. Leave Ai ClockTwister and DRAM Static Read Control at AUTO.

If your divider is 2:3 (FSB 800: DRAM 1200) - you may be able to run Performance Level 7 depending on RAM, NB, Vdimm.

Best thing, post all your settings.

Edit: What bios are you using?

[junkun13]

bios version 1201


Also advance clock skews to 300 for both A&B channels

i don't see this on the bios settings

[OVERK|LL]

I THINK those settings are only available with the Rampage BIOS conversion. I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong.

[WaterFlex]

I THINK those settings are only available with the Rampage BIOS conversion. I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong.

You`re right.

[MacClipper]

there is the newer 1207 actually,
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/Maximus_Formula/MAXIMUS-ASUS-Formula-1207.zip

[Grnfinger]

You need to post all your bios settings. If you're on the 266 strap, you're most likely working with the 4:5 divider (FSB 1000:DRAM 1200) - if this is the case then you'll need to run performance level 8. Also advance clock skews to 300 for both A&B channels. Leave Ai ClockTwister and DRAM Static Read Control at AUTO.

If your divider is 2:3 (FSB 800: DRAM 1200) - you may be able to run Performance Level 7 depending on RAM, NB, Vdimm.

Best thing, post all your settings.

Edit: What bios are you using?

He is running a Maximus bios.
I tried the Auto settings and PL 8 still no go.
I cant see why it wont post, I tried the same settings and mine will boot right into Vista.:shrug:

[aussie-revhead]

Hi guys , I just ran some tests on my new 4870x2 and fitted a 4870 for tri-fire but my pc will not boot with the 4870 installed , I get cmos error code shown on the lcd poster , has anyone else seen anything like this ? I have had this vid card in this pc before , and the pc will boot with either vid card on its own.

This vid card has been flashed with the modded bios , could this be upsetting things ? Or would they just dislike cf if that was the case ?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

:up:

[Barr3l Rid3r]

He is running a Maximus bios.
I tried the Auto settings and PL 8 still no go.
I cant see why it wont post, I tried the same settings and mine will boot right into Vista.:shrug:


PL9/ static Disabled/ CPU GTL 65x / NB GTL 63x
VNB 1.39V
vFSB 1.30V
VPLL 1.50v

[junkun13]

At last problem solved!

I just flashed the latest bios to 1207 and whola!

thank you guys!

[MacClipper]

Great to hear that. :)

[Grnfinger]

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Not much of an upgrade but :banana::banana::banana::banana: it I have waited long enough.

Can anyone comment on the card?

[Grnfinger]

New 9550 quickie test.


http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/9550_1.jpg

[Amurtigress]

I do recall the Intel specs stateing that 45nm max FSBT was 1.40.
I think others will confirm this in the E8400 thread I know he has a quad but should be able to get the correct max value there.
4x1GB will tax the NB alot harder than 2 sticks so setting 1.35 might be a little on the low side, I would set maybe 1.45 and work down from there, I also agree 1.61 is insane for NB volts.
PL 8 is high for 1:1 PL 7 or 6 should work but regardless that would not cause his problem. 5-5-5-15 vs 5-5-5-12 offers nothing. Only thing that would/ could tell a difference would be a Everest bench.

Hi Grnfinger and lestat,
there is a story to the 1.61V. I was using a E6600 before running at 8x436. Which means the actual core clock of the NB was 436/8*9=490 MHz. With less than 1.59 V I was getting PCI Express troubles, like the Express devices (Intel PCIe LAN) were making the whole system run choppy when getting under high network load. Add to that higher power demand through the four memory modules. Four modules require 0.04V more than two, AFAIK. Another detail, I capped my NB/SB heatpipe and replaced the thermal compound with Arctic Silver 5. So the temp. shouldn't be a big issue.

However I will try less voltage, the current clock is 436 (* 7.5/7.5) now, roughly 10% less.

Memory performance level: My board does not post at 9 anymore if I am leaving the skew settings at auto. 250 ps get me to level 6-7...I found that pretty interesting since I am far from being at 1200 MHz.

FSBT volt: I read it a few times that voltages above 1.40 are real penryn killers. Besides I seem to get the least crashes between 1.34 and 1.38. I can test it with my multimeter tho, can anybody remember where the measuring spot was for the FSBT volt?

Thanks for the feedback so far!

PS: Rebooting now and setting NB volt to 1.45

[Amurtigress]

Hi,

I am using a single 8800GT-512, a Leadtek reference card. Occasionally my card doesn't get initialized and the system starts, but a simple reset gets this straightened out again. I cannot blame that specifically on the board, the conversion OR the card's modified BIOS (GPU:800, RAM 1900, shader: 1700) tho...it just sounds similar. I hope this helps any...


Hey guys, I have an odd problem with my Maximus Rampage conversion. I've never had an issue till I decided I wanted an Nvidia card instead of ATI. I've tried 2 MSI 8800GTS cards and 1 Evga 9800GX2. None produce a video signal on my board yet the computer boots. If I wait long enough and enter my PW, I hear the Vista music as it goes to the desktop with a black screen. :( I put the ATI 1950 back in and no video problem. I took the 2 8800GTS cards and put them in other rigs. 1 an old DFI 965 and the other in a P5Q. Those cards work perfectly on those boards. I haven't tried the 9800GX2 on another board yet because it means breaking down the Maximus Rampage and stealing the power supply or buying another power supply capable of running 2 GX2s and I'm leaning towards the latter.

Any ideas as to why my board hates Nvidia? Anyone else had the problem?

[WFO]

My money is on the official SupremeFXII driver. Whenever I installed the driver, bad things would happin. The red X letting me know my internet connection wasen't there yet, on each re-boot. (It would last about 90 looong seconds before giving up and continued to boot.) The modum was always ready. It was a driver conflict that caused me problems. I just use the windows default sound driver, and all works fine for me.

I know it sounds wacky, but that is my guess. :)

With no video, just take the sound card out and see if it fixes anything.

Thanks Talonman. I pulled it but no joy. If I'm not even showing a post screen, drivers haven't even had a chance to load so I wasn't expecting that to work. Desperate times. Desperate measures. :up:


Hi,

I am using a single 8800GT-512, a Leadtek reference card. Occasionally my card doesn't get initialized and the system starts, but a simple reset gets this straightened out again. I cannot blame that specifically on the board, the conversion OR the card's modified BIOS (GPU:800, RAM 1900, shader: 1700) tho...it just sounds similar. I hope this helps any...

I wish it were that simple. :) It doesn't matter how many times I reset or clear cmos. Nvidia= black screen. :( I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this. My guesses were my DVI KVM. Plugging the monitor in directly equaled black screen too. Or my Armor case just doesn't let Nvidia cards sit right in the slot. I have too much time in cable management and a dual-rad water loop to tear it apart for experimentation. :rolleyes: This rig will keep ATI and MY P5K Deluxe and P5Q rigs will get the Nvidia cards.

I've followed the Maximus Formula and Maximus Rampage threads from the beginning. I'm the only one I've read about with this problem. :( It never hurts to ask though. :)

[shimmishim]

What is the typical max FSB achieved with this board with a dual core wolfdale and then after conversion to rampage formula?

is there a significant gain in FSB?

[Lestat]

436/8*9=490 MHz

what!??

are you saying one setting you use is 436 FSB 8x cpu multi
and another seting you use is 490mhz fsb and 9x cpu multi ?

if not then i do not understand where your getting those numbers.

the FSB is what it is,, its not times or divided by anything else...

400mhz FSB is 400MHz whether you use a 6x multi or a 10x multi. all the multi does is simply increase your default cpu speed.
cpu multi also doesnt change your ram speed
OR are you saying your ram is 490mhz ???

thus 436x8 = 3488
436x9 = 3924

490x8 = 3920
490x9 = 4410 - and you are not doing that with this board unless its a dual core. you wont do 490 x 9 on a quad with this board. not on air or water atleast.

[Lestat]

WOOHOO!!!
1207 makes the mobo see my Q9650 (ES) properly along with temps properly (in the bios) and no more stupid unsupported cpu warning everytime the system boots!!

now i have to start playing with voltages be this E0 cpu should be doing a better overclock than 3.825 @ 1.28v

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=404154

and the best part!! i can now adjust my cpu multi!!!!!! time to get to FSB testing!
i also can FINALLY stress out this OZC Reaper 9200 stuff which is just absolutely wicked ram. 1133mhz 2.0v ?? i mena come on thats crazy 5-5-5-12

[Amurtigress]

Hi,
I sort of saw that coming. has noone here had a P5B Series board before?

You should read the article on FSB straps and NB clocks on the P965 chipsets. I don't have hard evidence so far that the X38 is behaving the same, but the intel chipsets are all VERY similar. They just evolve bit by bit but don't ditch their whole architecture. The northbridge clock on P965 chips is calculated the following way:

NB core clock = (CPU max multiplier / CPU current multiplier) * FSB clock

ex. if you are running a E6600 at 3.6 GHz, you have the option to use 400*9 or 450*8.

The NB however runs at either 506 MHz (9/8)*450 or in the latter case at (9/9)*400.

This is also the reason why you should disable speedstep whenever you are overclocking. The further the multiplier goes down, the more the NB cklock goes up with the FSB clock remaining constant. At some point the voltage for the NB core gets insufficient and the computer crashes.

There was a good article on xtremesystems, on FSB straps on the ASUS P5B Deluxe board. Trying to hunt it up and add the URL to the posting as soon as I find it.

--- Edit! ---

Here is the article:

http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?p=32#post32
------------


what!??

are you saying one setting you use is 436 FSB 8x cpu multi
and another seting you use is 490mhz fsb and 9x cpu multi ?

if not then i do not understand where your getting those numbers.

the FSB is what it is,, its not times or divided by anything else...

400mhz FSB is 400MHz whether you use a 6x multi or a 10x multi. all the multi does is simply increase your default cpu speed.
cpu multi also doesnt change your ram speed
OR are you saying your ram is 490mhz ???

thus 436x8 = 3488
436x9 = 3924

490x8 = 3920
490x9 = 4410 - and you are not doing that with this board unless its a dual core. you wont do 490 x 9 on a quad with this board. not on air or water atleast.

[JCGhz]

What is the typical max FSB achieved with this board with a dual core wolfdale and then after conversion to rampage formula?

is there a significant gain in FSB?

I would also like to know.. but from what ive seen i think there is a gain in fsb and some memory settings.

[RCG_Bex]

Asus got back to me as well - looks like it's another direct replacement as well. Oh poo. Stingy gits!!!

Got my E8600 but I lost a bit for my CPU block so no OC'ing yet >.<

New equipment for next month anyway :D

~Bex

[Zucker2k]

WOOHOO!!!
1207 makes the mobo see my Q9650 (ES) properly along with temps properly (in the bios) and no more stupid unsupported cpu warning everytime the system boots!!

now i have to start playing with voltages be this E0 cpu should be doing a better overclock than 3.825 @ 1.28v

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=404154

and the best part!! i can now adjust my cpu multi!!!!!! time to get to FSB testing!
i also can FINALLY stress out this OZC Reaper 9200 stuff which is just absolutely wicked ram. 1133mhz 2.0v ?? i mena come on thats crazy 5-5-5-12Do you mean, 1333? 'cos I can get 1175 with 8500 2x2GB G.Skills.

[Grnfinger]

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/8600_oc1.jpg

[ShawnTRD]

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff267/Grnfinger/8600_oc1.jpg

Could I get you BIOS settings?

[Grnfinger]

Could I get you BIOS settings?

Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Setting : 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
FSB Frequency : 450
PCI-E Frequency: 110

DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1080mhz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A: Advanced 250ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B: Advanced 250ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

3rd Information
WRITE to PRE Delay : 14
READ to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Performance Level 7

CPU Voltage : 1.40
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.65X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF

[Utnorris]

So I have been reading for awhile and I have searched the thread, but I cannot find what I am looking for, even under the first page sticky.

1 - What does flashing your Maximus bios to a Rampage bios get you?

2 - It looks like if I stick with the Maximus bios it should be the 1102, is this correct?

3 - If I flash to the Rampage then I should use 1207, is that correct?

Thanks,
Utnorris

[Grnfinger]

So I have been reading for awhile and I have searched the thread, but I cannot find what I am looking for, even under the first page sticky.

1 - What does flashing your Maximus bios to a Rampage bios get you?

2 - It looks like if I stick with the Maximus bios it should be the 1102, is this correct?

3 - If I flash to the Rampage then I should use 1207, is that correct?

Thanks,
Utnorris

1207 is the current MAXIMUS bios, 407 is the current RAMPAGE bios.
thay are released for the new cpu stepping on the E8600 and Q9650.

Flashing your Maximus to Rampage will yeild higher FSB and lower volts.
most ppl are seeing around. 25-45fsb increase and 2 notches less of vcore.
308 Rampage bios is the best so far for bandwidth. 407 is not a bad bios but if you dont need it I would not run it, I like 308 , it has a higher tref value and is a really stable bios.
Also the det dram hang is a thing of the past cause you can manually set your PL level, Clock Skew is another handy feature which allows for higher ram overclocks while maintaining stability

[ShawnTRD]

what this S or D


Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

[ShawnTRD]

And what can I use to read what my MB did doing for AUTO? I'm using Memset, but it's not telling my all my Memory settings.

[wander_jarra]

Hi Guys,

I must say that i did tryed the search, but didn't find ...

After flashing my mobo Maximus Formula, with the 403 bios - to rampage, the LCD Poster - blinks all the time, with the clock.

Sometimes windows starts, and everything is ok, but after ( nothing ) it blinks, blinks and blinks ... until i reboot computer, even in bios sometimes it starts the blink - ... I tryed every little config to find out what was the problem, but ... no way. I can't imagine, what is the problem.

using as stock maximuls formula, never happened, just after the conversion !!!!

Anyone knows anything about this !?!?

[ShawnTRD]

I don't use the LCD Poster, but did you reset your CMOS?

[Barr3l Rid3r]

Hi Guys,

I must say that i did tryed the search, but didn't find ...

After flashing my mobo Maximus Formula, with the 403 bios - to rampage, the LCD Poster - blinks all the time, with the clock.

Sometimes windows starts, and everything is ok, but after ( nothing ) it blinks, blinks and blinks ... until i reboot computer, even in bios sometimes it starts the blink - ... I tryed every little config to find out what was the problem, but ... no way. I can't imagine, what is the problem.

using as stock maximuls formula, never happened, just after the conversion !!!!

Anyone knows anything about this !?!?

aqui funcionou de boa... Enfim...

407 was even worse then 403 for overclock, around here, higher voltage on NB ans Vfsb for lower stability.

[Nunzi]

I have a Q9650, i have a Maximus Formula SE and im trying to flash my board to a Rampage. Im trying to flash to the 407bios and it says to me that it cannot open the bios. Has anyone tried to flash to this bios? Do i need a modded one? Thanks.

[Grnfinger]

I have a Q9650, i have a Maximus Formula SE and im trying to flash my board to a Rampage. Im trying to flash to the 407bios and it says to me that it cannot open the bios. Has anyone tried to flash to this bios? Do i need a modded one? Thanks.

most likey its a syntax error.

Make sure you type in uppercase

/AFUDOS /iRF0407.rom /pbnc /n

so rename your bios 407 to RF0407 and it should work

[ShawnTRD]

I have a Q9650, i have a Maximus Formula SE and im trying to flash my board to a Rampage. Im trying to flash to the 407bios and it says to me that it cannot open the bios. Has anyone tried to flash to this bios? Do i need a modded one? Thanks.

Use the AFUDOS v2.29ES not the v2.36ES. Plus I suggest using 0308:up: BIOS over 0407:down:.

[Grnfinger]

Use the AFUDOS v2.29ES not the v2.36ES. Plus I suggest using 0308:up: BIOS over 0407:down:.

you cant use 308 on that chip

[Nunzi]

Thanks guys for all your help.........got it flashed to 0407

[ShawnTRD]

Thanks guys for all your help.........got it flashed to 0407

Let us know how they work for you.